#๐ฎใilluvium-beyond
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Well, I wouldn't say it's a long time, but the promotion should be together with the 5th wave.The promo can be made longer to attract more users, as the Arena will be heavily deployed at this time.
hmmm...
If we look at pokemon model... they do drop promos between their main sets.... so I'm not completely against a separate promo. Seems fitting to industry standards
This thought about sert/wave timing has come up in the past
Ideally Waves would have set release dates/cycles so people can prepare and know what to expect... standardizxation is a good thing
But we are not there yet...
Yes, I agree, well, when there are exact dates, I'm in favor of launching the wave on Halloween, because it will fall under the active arena and, most likely, under the launch of MMO Lite, and will partially receive marketing from them.
there is a pun here that I'm not going to touch, and don't say that's what she said lol
๐คฆโโ๏ธ where is your mind good ser XD
it's monday, that makes it alright ๐
Now @wide swan I would be cool with a prince promo
The hair, the guitar, the outfit, the shoes, all great acc. ๐
Prince is king
thats my hometown boy ๐
Prince and Rick James Promo
who knew that populating a database with thousands of illuvitar sales records could be such a pain in the ass...
finally think I got the right recipe... now only 20k-50k+ more to go ๐
This was one of Skys gripes about IM costs lol
well and the outliers both ways need to be thrown out...and we don't always have a good bell curve. And then factor in eth price changes ๐ฉ
outlier sales you mean? In averaging if there are enough sample an outlier or two shouldnt fuck up everything. but if there are relatively few samples then yes.
Outliers can exist for different reason... fat finger accidents, wash trades, quick sells...
Once I get a full data set I'm gonna check and see how bad or good it is...
I have an option to search average pricing based on time window... set at 90 base but can be changed to any... 30 days 180days etc to either increase sample size or see more recent price trends
@wide swanHi Rich) just one question today)) when will the Iluvitars wave 4 be distributed? Including Doka
crazy how the market changed over time
169730
Holo Axodon
$114.59
1,468
one of the earliest sales
183798
Holo Growling Earth Atippo
$229.18
1,277
Check out my offer here for T0 for $13)
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This one is is like 50 cents now
85224
Serious Kukka
$155.84
1,073
oooo would be nice if some of those old offers had funding still ๐
Hopefull early september
Help Roger launch the wave 5 on Halloween
or at least the promo to start wave 5 ๐
yeah that's why I want to see a shorter time limit..most of those guys are gone from a year ago.
And how far T0 holos have fallen has been a surprise, and how little acc. have fallen on the other end.
234750
Holo Laser Goliant
$16042.79
2,946
you mean like these ๐
yep so glad I sold my extras almost always right away....at times even lettting the bot take them. I now see the bot selling t0 holos for 50% of what it paid...which seemed like a steal just months ago
I know the pain 
me right now:
and considering we have a skeleton (Halloween!) crew it's amazing you all have done as well as you have
fucking data
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only place i liked it was star trek
my little train is chugging along
Ok guys... so the first iteration of my price guide will be a simple averager...
You will be able to search broadly or pinpoint ranges or even exact to get the samples you want
the filters are fun to explore and will give you control over the search params
you can search all time or within a lst X days amount
when the data finishes populating im gonna ask a few of u to go try it please
the more I think about it the more I like the idea of you creating a disk just for acc. (hopefully more bell shaped curve distribution), and it would sell. Most people just buy the standards for the acc. And love the idea you could reward burners with these disks. And you don't have to be super generous, something like 100 burns gets you one disk. @potent tulip thoughts? No new art involved ๐
though would love to see the disk have an occasional glitch, strange acc. ๐
this would also slow the issue with too many T0s in the illuvidex
and really all the low end illuvitars that end up in standards
and instead of a bell curve, you could have the pity rule like adr has, where if you haven't pulled an x% acc. in a certain number of consecutive disks you get one in the next disk opening
I would buy this
well depending on price ๐
Would also add value to 2.5% accessories because they will be bought up to be burned ๐ my best idea yet i think
a self feeding cycle ๐
buy a disk, burn the crap, get a disk, burn the crap lol
damn, I'd go buy up a bunch of the low end stuff in teh market too
Uve created a monster
you've created the monster, we only animate it ๐
another halloween play ๐
Most high end illuvitars cost 100$, but 1 18% accessory costs 100$. Crazy to think about
yep, acc. out of wack. don't know if we have acc. hoarders, or inactive accounts with a bunch or the pull rates were just that bad
but at least the 20% have come back to earth some, the 10% are still about 3 bucks which is stunning
but yeah, no clown noses in the new acc. disks ๐
I got so many it literally stopped me from buying disks
and wierd how so in a % grouping can vary in price so much
I know for a fact over the last 4 waves over 100+ people including myself own 1000โs of useless accessories
Let us burn them to get a chance at some better accessories
Same with illuvitars
The better % of the accessory you burn or the tier of the illuvitar, the more points you gain towards getting an accessory disk
The goal is to allow create sinks for this in what is beyondv2 but it still is a while away.. wondering if we can already set up something as a pretext..
But giving everything utility and meaning is the goal
I suppose you have to have a way to track burns, esp. if some burn is more valuable than others...be nice now though to clean up the whole bottom of the illuvidex. And acc. disks? like that idea?
Burn all the clown noses. Even if attached to nice Illuvials like all the poor red nosed Adoredos.๐
Idk what their Discord name is.... but congrats losPpopos on buying an Adorius ๐
rattydata(.)com/recent-sales.html
shows a live feed of recent Illuvitar sales... it's like a lava lamp ๐
and if anyone wants to check out the Illuvitar price estimator go for it... rattydata dot com
data still populating but there's enough in there now to get a good idea of functions
I already know I need to change the name search to exact word matching so rhamphy doesnt bring up rhamphyre.... will fix
hope it's helpful for people that buy and sell and are just curious about value or sales in general
gimme feedback plz
@night basalt do you know roughly how many illuvitar sales have occurred in total so I can tell if my db is getting closer?
immutascan.io/address/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8 says around 179k
is that for real tho
that could be transfers too? accessories also?
0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8 is the illuvitars address, so only illuvitars
30 months thats about 200 sales/day and I know we aint been selling 200/day since march 23
idk, there was a lot of floor sweeping early on and a ton of activity. the bulk of that 179k might hve been in the first few months
seems about right, these are the #'s just for eth sales in the first few months
2023-03: 32671
2023-04: 15777
2023-05: 7741
2023-06: 5418
interesting... gonna have to keep diggin
so far i got... long way to go if its 180k ๐
Yah lots of bot stuff during certain periods for sure
i thanks for the tool! nice visuals
I disabled my tracking but should be quick to check tho, weird that it takes so much time for you, what API you using to get the data?
I'm using imx api... kept getting rate limited so i set it at snail mode
but you also downloading metadata, or just grabbing mints in the collection?
sales data and metadata... no images... images are pulled from link
if only mints, this should be like 5 min, cuz it responds with 200 items per request
and now doing separate cuz kept missing some
well not separate but... not requiring both
any sales order that comes thru without metadata i can backfill
sales as trades between ppl?
anything that was transacted in illuvidex/tt etc
or initial D1sk purchace from illuvium
just illuvitars
hmm, ok ok
do disks or acc
i'm at 56k now
that's what I initially was projecting... like 50k... so when I saw 180k i was like dang homie
I love beyond because of the Illuvitars and how good the art is and chances of getting a holo with t5 background but I don't like the accessories part of Beyond, having to put them on the great artwork just so I can move up the leaderboard. Can we get rid of accessories? Instead we have more fun stuff like the glitch illuvitars?
adding the accessories is not fun and it doesn't make the illuvitar look better. so why have them?
they devalue Illuvitars perfectly )))
Which is another negitive
my opinion is not much different from yours.. but alas, it was the accessories that gave the Illuvitaram the boost that the Illuvium lacked at the time.. and it is unlikely that the team, at least today, will consider canceling the accessories, at least until there is an alternative driver..
I hate them too, but its a nice burning mechanism
and to be honest, not all accessories are so bad.. it's just hard to get nice ones..
I wish I could just collect to get up the leaderboard without having to ruin illuvitars
What would you have instead?
I dont think we need any type of "add ons". Make more variations of the Illuvitars like yall did with the glitch in the ILV summer, this could be something different every wave.
later - but the rules and tigns are set for the first 5 waves of beyond
after this ,, stuff will change
Sweet! Excited to hear what you have in mind ๐
a whole adventure awaits ๐
Community will get some input right?
for whom ever is interrested or using moonpay to transfer funds - immutable has removed the "immutable ETH" option from moonpay.
the whole imx transfer eth experience has always been a challenge, and can't understand why they couldn't have done it all better from the beginning
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layerswap my transfer tool of choice at the moment. rip moonpay for immutable
Okay yall I made a few adjustments to the price average page
- cleaner search ui
- added an illuvitar container that populates with an illuvitar from the search results
- changed main average price to eth with a current usd equivalent underneath
- added eth column in the list
- days search is past 100 days by default
- added a 'random illuvitar' button if u get bored
- currently backfilling historical usd/eth price to reflect more realistic/true results
Go try it out and lmk feedback... good bad or otherwise. I appreciate the feedback so far. Thank u
rattydata. com
good job mate
We should pin a msg in this channel with all the awesome stuff people have been building for beyond
We need to go further than that, it needs to be on a partners page on illuvium.io, way to hard to find these great projects.
Blows my mind illuvium aint supporting
like free help
Official endorsement stuff is always difficult honestly due to security shizzle, but agree we can do a few things to help get people finding them
Remember liz labs? Perfect example
Worst part was people from this community falling for it and endorsing it in every video
@gusty cliff : what do you mean by "falling for it"? you mean they supported lizlabs?
Good thing I'm just a fanboi that does this cuz I'm a lil crazy XD
The best kind of crazy
props to @runic glade also and everyone else who does it cuz of passion
If i knew anything about coding im sure iโd be doing stuff as well, instead im just doing math on probabilities and seeing what exists in the collection out of pure love of it
ser
you think i knew anything about coding
lol
you can always have a page showing all the beyond links/games, and then a disclaimer. We are all adults and can assume responsibility given the information.
And are we doing a Halloween promo?????
Right there with u ๐
Falling for what?
The hype without substance, token drop was the cherry on the cake
Oh damn. Thought I was gonna get a bazillion percent return on investment with that one ๐
what no such thing as a free lunch? ๐
next thing im gonna try to add to rattydata ------>
YOOOOO
leave it to rattydaddy to do anything
While ur at it, try to make it so we can cancel multiple offers at once
@night basalt question for u
IMX is sunsetting or rather merging existing projects into zkEVM eventually right? I am looking into integrating passport but seems like they are funneling new projects into zkEVM.
How will Illuvium asset migration happen?
Is it still possible to build for IMX even tho they are requiring new projects to be set up thru zkEVM?
Would it be ideal to just set up for both environments?
I used a zekvm key
Wallet addresses and ids are same between zkevm and stark
So just go to passport develop hub and make zkevm project and it works for stark basically
For what were doing at least
Not sure about transactions
We are setting up the cosmetic dex though
As I keep digging yah looks like should be able to... gonna see if i can get a little test tonight
Does anyone know how many extra points you get for completing all the accessories? Thanks
Hi Rich. When will we get the reward illuvitars? Last week I read in general that we will get them this week. ๐ค
does anyone think wave5 will mint more than wave4 illuvitars? would be nice to see that type of uptrend
I think we had someone out that had to distribute them and maybe they are back monday but i'll ask again
Ok, thanks Rich. Btw, I honored jokull with nice accessories ๐๐ฅ
I thought a lot about the gold neckchain, but I like the stage3 collar on Jokull ๐
what's the power? ๐
just the usual gift ๐
These accessories (except the collar) would look great on your Adoredo too ๐
If i were to, 20% only
If I buy it, you can't do anything about it. ๐ญ๐
the power is not so much that it is worth putting only 20% accessories on it ๐
It is if ive never bonded 20% items before
And now we enter the graveyard portion of the Beyond season...try whistling ๐
tryna buy a couple d1sks on secondary market but it keeps saying theres no valid orders do i need the eth in passport or can i use it from secondary wallet?
Code 5003 - The API rejected the purchase: There are no valid orders to be bought
got it to work first few must be expired
Some of the disks are like ghost disks. They appear for sale but arenโt actually there. Those be the onesโฆ. Usually appear super cheap.
cheers. also whats the website people now use to find out illuvial estimated prices
I've built one... rattydata . com
Still work in progress. Currently backfilling past sales with historical usd price of eth. But most of the recent sales should reflect historical price.
On another note... if u ever felt bad for overpaying for an illuvitar, just look a this t0
that's still the current eth/usd price and will get adjuzted with the backfill... but still... 1.77 eth
Okay backfill on rattydata is done. Prices should now reflect usd/eth value at the time of sales... making the results more true to their valuie
I wonder who owns it now!
The first ever maxed out t0 alpha
I don't envy the owner. He'll probably never be able to sell it for what he bought it for. ๐ฌ
And youll never be able to own an alpha maxed t0 ๐ฌ
It's okay, I won't be sad about it. ๐คฃ
We need time to cook! :p
Hmmm that gives me some ideas ๐ค
please drop the wave 4 rank off the top of album when you have a chance as it no longer matters
I'm not that kind of cook :p
well just pass it on ๐
illuvitars anyone? xD
LMAO
is there a page where we can see all illuvitars (not the illuvidex where i have to manually change each line to see what they all looklike)
Yes there is the availability guide on the beyond website
Hi Rogier. When will we get the reward illuvitars? ๐
Soon im told ๐ the person who mints these in the blockchain team is back this week afaik ๐
Tell him that Hektor is sending him a chocolate, just send it to us ๐คฃ
I was joking. I'm glad we'll get it soon. I'm really looking forward to it. ๐ซก๐ค๐
me too! i got top 40 u know ๐
wow..I didn't know. congratulations ๐๐
Is this wave4? am I right?
yeh
31st i got
fumbled a 200$ phosphorus otherwise iwouldve been 30th
i still need it to coplete the collection ๐
but now they well over 400
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This is also a very nice achievement ๐ช
I knew you didn't have it unfortunately. You should have told me during the wave. I was about 20
Are you squeekypuff?
I sent you something ๐
I saw that you were missing the rare expression
you are amazing โค๏ธ thank you
Enjoy ๐ค๐๐ฅ
thanks!
Is it possible to know how much power the reward illuvitars will have?
Sorry didnt see it in time i can check tomorrow
Thank you Rogier! ๐ซก๐
@potent tulip Hi dude. How are you? Any news about the reward illuvitars? ๐
i looked it up but i dont think my data is correct ๐ i think i only found the base powers, buttheres finish and bg poitns etc not calculated .. so dont know :/
but i know itll be soon
that they are minted and sent
because i see em minted on testnet ;D
Thank you very much for not forgetting and looking for it.โบ๏ธ
I'm most interested in Artace. Because of whether I'll have to bond the rare or not ๐
Does anyone know who ownilv is?
very nice but I thought it would be more than 6k ๐ซฃ but I really like it
Yeah ๐
I think all beyond players now received ?
I got it all ๐
Yeah, got it!
Very nice illuvitars. It's a shame that the power of each one is so low. Unfortunately I can't put anything in the album ๐
In wave3, many people were unhappy with the power, so I thought they would be much stronger now. But even much weaker than those ๐ฌ
Very low all considering
2700 lynx, u can make one stronger for pennies lol
8400 phosphorus tho lol
Top 5? Yeah ur gettin scraps
I agree. And it's not even about the power of gift illuvitars, but about the fact that because of their power, it is inappropriate to use them in your albums. But collecting albums is the only game moment in the entire structure of Beyond.
I'm sure there was some mistake. Sear should be around 6800-6900-7000
Or we need a new section for collecting, something like a Hall of Fame, where all our Illuvitar achievements will be. ๐ค
Compared to how much the top5 players spent, I don't think a 7k power illuvitar is much. We can bond a stronger one for much less money. This is the minimum that players get ๐
I think it's unnecessary. ๐
I'm not arguing bro, I'm talking about solving the problem... so that everyone is happy and there is no conflict of interest in the future...
In any case, I'm sure they'll come up with something.. The gift Illuvitars are wonderful, thanks to everyone involved!
Phosphorus is now stronger than Adorius. Rhamphite was 6600+ power so Sear should be stronger than that too. ๐
Atleast its rare exp, but under 6k is criminal
I agree
yes. my common Sear is stronger...But I'm not nervous because I'm sure there was a mistake
I think the numbers were written off. Sear power should go to artace. Artace power should go to floralynx and floralynx power should go to tatopee.
theres a difference due to not having accessories calculated comparing the previous wave winners - the only one with added accessories here was the phosphorus (hence the high power) - this is a f-up from my part and ill see how i can solve this. ๐
I dare to assume that the standard accessories have a combat status, from which it is logical to assume that they are more powerful... gift illuvitars, they are relaxed after the battle, they are in a festive mood, so they are weaker )))
will likely go for some sort of standardization
its all making sense now
Beautiful but in my opinion a bit low as power .... I hope they increase them a little ....
yes. Rogier wrote that they would fix it ๐
They all look incredible but holy crap! ๐
@potent tulip is there a collection for those Battlepass Illuvitars?
Are they even connected to beyond?
That looks awesome ๐
there are more...
Uh oh.... How do you get them? ๐
rewards of the battlepass
Is the battle pass live already?
on testnet
Ahhhh ๐
have to do missions tho to aquire them
They look like they should be connected to Beyond if they are illuvitars.
Good way to get us over there completing those missions.
we gotta ask @potent tulip for an Arena album collection ๐
the same goes for these leaderboard rewards.. It's a shame to not sleeve them if they're power is not good enough...
It is, a trophy that you can't display ๐ข .
exactly...
Each reward illuvitar will have a stronger power...
Super cool
Love the Wave end Illuvitars!
Wondering what's up with power tho like the others... that gonna change? ๐
Artace prob my fave
yes, it will change ๐
Oh nice!
Artace should have more power than Sear has now...when I got it and saw the powers.... well... I won't tell you what I felt ๐คฃ
We have reward illuvitar power at home type shit ๐คฃ
Looks like the border bug has been fixed too! 
Not showing up on leaderboard though ๐ค .
Finally!
Hehe I know, it did seem to take a while. Been itching to get that on since I picked it up.
Ah nvm fuel tycoon still dont work
Oh really, I didn't check that one. The promo ones do.
Yeah looks like resized
how much fuel do you get for compleating the battlepass
Did you get the lynx?
Nope i placed 26th and 27th ๐
Daaamnn. Sorry dude...
I thought I'd buy the lynx from you for 2-3 dollars as long as the power is 2700 ๐
looks like 2k from the premium pass and 400 from the free pass.
Numbers can be wrong and changed for the live version tho.
the "free" pass is actually "free of charge"?
or how does the "free" pass characterize?
i guess that's what free rewards means ๐
it's for free
so everyone gets 400 fuel for free each month
would be like 4$
worth of travelmoney
- some cosmetics
huiiii
it's seasonal... i guess a season is longer than 1 month
alright than
btw. @team: well done with the distribution of the "proud expression"-set ๐ i love it
were there only three rare phosphorus opened in total? ๐ซฃ
that's a typical battle pass structure. There are like 2 lanes... free lane you get some goodies... pay lane you get better goodies
Is it true , @potent tulip ?
Yes! theres some power skew compared to last winners due to them having accessories - will dive in to see how we can change it to be fair..
It might need to change the previous winners too. But ill keep you all posted .
This change (eventho it seems simple) isn't easy due to the nature of being nfts ๐ So will still take a bit of time before its al lsorted. .. Thank you for your patience ๐
Borders working on leaderboard now too! Nice work! ๐ 
Shows how much the team is watching chat and implementing as much feedback as possible ๐
If the team is so attentive, please fix the power of the reward illuvitars too...thanks ๐
as Rogier mentioned the team is aware of the issue but it's not a simple fix as you might think due to the NFT nature.
#๐ฎใilluvium-beyond message
I know. I didn't write it with bad intentions... I hope Sear will be around 7k power. That would be his realistic power ๐ค๐ช
Who is final boss?
I see ๐
"illuvitars at home" is getting better xD
im just missing a flying drone throwing out particle effects and it might be the same thing
(joking, i really do love the illuvitars project and this is 100% inspired by it.)
also totally free to play if anyone wants to try xD
@half zinc would i be allowed to post the link here or no?
The bot would not allow it.
Maybe share a Twitter post about it
Does anyone know if all remaining illuvitars will be released during wave 5? If so and wave 5 completes the entire set, are there any plans to offer final Set rewards on the set 1 leaderboard?
I think we could see strong competition across both leaderboards if we do go that route. Would be a great way to end the set, it's such a significant milestone.
It's a good way to use up all of our accessories too if we get all new accessories for set 2.
ser youre hired for data kingz
i can see your vibe coding skillz are stronk
Agree, legacy leaderboard rewards only seems logical
do we get new accessories in set 2?
You mean my AI is hired?
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Looks spooky. Love it!! ๐
I can already imagine a skeleton titanor ๐
Halloween Illuvitars Collection ๐
I don't know about the rewards plans, but wave 5 will be all the remaining Illuvitars yes!
Is wave5 expected this year or will it only be next year?
Nice, thanks for confirming ๐ . Going to be a big wave! 
Are you going to be timing the last Beyond wave to coincide with the end of set 1 illuvials too?
If so, are you already working on set 2 illuvials/illuvitars?
I still cant afford the few missing from porevious waves and now your hyping wave five ๐
K is tyming the hype for the end of the year IPL finals wave 5 MMO vertical slice you heard it first here ๐
Hehe ๐
. I don't think you have to worry about it being any time soon.
Sounds like it could be a little while with the sounds of it.
Dan is just chciken poop to admit it ๐
So new set must be coming soon right?
I dont know what the plan is, but I wouldn't expect a new set for a little while. There aren't enough new illuvials finalised yet.
Plus I would imagine after wave 5 ends there will be an assessment period where decisions are made about Beyond going forward (what to change, what worked well etc.)
When is wave 5 expected?
Iโm curiousโwhich will come first, Wave 5 or Halloween?
me too ๐
Sometimes it seems to me that Beyond is currently the most economically profitable project for Illuvium.
Nothing is given away for free to F2P players.
The costs of artwork are hardly comparable to the costs of developing an MMO.
Almost the entire audience consists of paying P2W players.
Itโs an extremely valuable project.
if only we could get rid of these dead zones waiting for the next wave
The way the market has been I think they've been necessary.
They can't keep tapping the same player base for endless amounts of cash. They simply don't have it.
You shouldnt have to spend money to incentivize activity
Not sure what you mean, can you explain please.
Side quests, off season leaderboards, trading activity points, things to boost activity but not necessarity spend more money
Ah I get you. Yes I agree, I think those are solid ideas and could help maintain engagement, like you say without necessarily having to spend anything.
100% agree and we'll try to solve that for beyond through some other cool ways ๐ฎ also when others here are devving games for our lovely illuvitars it helps too - but imo we would provide something too, which can also help keep the leaderboards moving etc.
As fun as beyond is, its sad to see the only activity is when someone is leaving their position out of ilv and selling at a major loss. Its a trading card game, so lets trade and incentivize it ๐
Makes sense. Thanks for the response!
Too scared to open my Summer disks.... so had to snatch myself an Octius from the market!
Absolutely gorgeous work on these Summer ones Rogier 
First you caught all the octopuses in Overworld, and now youโre hunting them in Beyond.
EXACTLY haha!
Wouldnt the easiest way to fix the reward illuvitars be to burn them to receive the correct one?
I like the idea bro. Smart
@potent tulip what do you think?
Wouldn't that rely on everyone giving them back?
Yeah, and if u dont i guess ur stuck with the less strong one
Maybe if they can leave the redemption window open so they can swap anytime. Just in case people miss the notification. I imagine quite a few are checked out now in the downtime.
Of course, it shouldnt be within a timeframe, just available to all
Thinking about it though, that does seem like a lot of work to implement. It may end up being simpler to do what they was planning anyway ๐
Be interesting to see what the response is.
Its like burning a disk, but you get ur proper illuvitar instead. Not that complicated i dont think
would need forced complience ๐
We are going to roll out the correct numbers but theres some mystical stuff surrounding it, its unfortunate but takes a bit of time.
Please, before the new power is finalized, we would like to know. If Sear becomes 6100-6200 power, then there should be no change, I am giving it to one of my friends as a gift. ๐
I got the most valuable fludd illuvitar in the game for free.
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I can't believe this happened ๐ฅบ
Jeez he took a 100$ bid?
yeah bro ๐ sick
Wow nice
I made the offer as a joke because I saw it listed cheap. Under $300
I didn't think he would accept it.
my next 7k+ illuvitar ๐
The greatest joy for me is that + another illuvitar that will never become stronger for Alexa ๐
While I think it's great on an individual level to get a good deal like that - therein also lies a fundamental truth...
On chain sales like these drag the overall Illuvitar market down
Sites like the one I am building use on chain sales data to calculate and detarmine fair value
So we cannot have it both ways. We cannot say XYZ Illuvitar is worth $10,000 if on chain sales confirm an illuvitar is being bought and sold for a fraction
Therefore, I suppose the point is, price is always subjective and based on what people are willing to pay
I will continue to design rattydata to try and reflect 'reasonable' prices in the Vector section. Statistical will simply show averages from past sales data.
I liked the design of your site.
Itโs minimalist and fun at the same time.๐
so it makes sense my friend. Regardless, I know what I own...if someone buys a rare rhamphyre for 200 dollars, it won't be worth 200 dollars.
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Let everyone decide what is worth what. If you want to buy Fludd for $300-400 now, I certainly won't sell it. The real value begins when the item reaches its rightful owner!!!
You are very stubborn. If you were a girl, I would definitely court you, you little liar. โฅ๏ธ๐ฅฐ๐
keep it civil
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you guys all need a good scare
I see there's a little restlesness... @potent tulip quick leak something ๐
proposing these changes - which yes, are different /skewed among waves - but so were the rewards.. happy to hear feedback. its not locked untill its rolled out, so dont go nuts.
I love you, Alexa ๐ฅฐ
yall gotta get a room
I think it's fair ๐
what am i looking at here?
wave winner illuvitars - power rating :/
I need more approvers and disapprovers ๐
yeh sorry its was top 5 / top 25
ok ok
and these are proposed power updates for reward illuvtars
This whole thing needs to end now, but it can only happen if everyone is willing to talk. In real life, I like to love, not hate.I apologize for always provoking you and you apologize for lying.
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seems cool... a little weird that t5s2 and t4s3 are same power but it seems reasonable
No one I talk to has lied to me. In the crypto world, that's probably normal, but we're a family. I wasn't used to that.
T5s2 and t4s3 always been very similar rarity/power in my books
yah similar.... but not same same
If you're a man, stick your head out of the bush and answer ๐
Yeah t5s2 should always have a lil more
Looks good to me
Oh my... hektor... no more alcohol. bad bad
Let's distract with a UI update from BAW
Looking to implement card cost to help with deck building
now carry on
You're right about that. Because if I hadn't had 2-3 beers, I wouldn't have even thought about talking to him.!
You better be happy that I want to make peace with him
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Maybe i'm biased but a 1/1 Gold Tier 5 stage 3 only having a power difference of less than 900 over a 1/5 tier 4 stage 3 holo.
I think that power gap should be larger between the winner than the gap between the 1/5 holo t4,s3 and 1/10 holo t3.s2, as the rarity/finish is on another level.
I also think the same between the non holos and the holos. I believe the holos warrant a larger power increase.
I don't think they should be linear like this as the rarity/finish/supply isn't linear.
thanks for the feedback!
Hopefully it helps. It's a tough one.
If we look at the difference in points he came first, he should be happy too. I know this guy is a grandmaster, but the whole project can't revolve around one person.
I've lent illuvitars to many people for snapshots. It wouldn't have made that much of a difference if I had everything. He still has the advantage because only his illuvitar is strong.
never in my mind we make this about one person ๐
if anything we make it so I like it myself ๐ screw you all
I'm asking seriously. Isn't this man ashamed of himself? ๐ก
Thank you Rogier. The definition of power is perfect. Let's hope the English agree ๐
It helps if you don't say anything. ๐
Same ๐
The definition of power is very correct. The project is not made up of one person. I hope you don't let it influence you. Apart from him, everyone agrees with you, I'm sure of that
I dont think the rewards should be seen as normal illuvitars. They should be what people fight for, and therefore be powerful regardless if 1st or 50th. Therefore should be linear or else its just going to be a let down for everyone else and stop them from trying the next wave
8k+ is very generous, 7.2k for top 5 is just as generous. There has to be incentives for all rewards. And that top 5 was earned as much as 1st. Just my 2 cents
Theres a healthy way to do it and these look balanced to me
I think so too but explain this to a sick person ๐
Alexa is sick. That's okay. The project needs sick people like that, but we shouldn't take what he says into consideration because he's biased.
He needs the best of everything, the strongest. He's like a spoiled child.
And if the team always looks to please him, the project will lose a lot of people ๐
I don't think anyone wants this....
I have to disagree.
Having power reflect rarity, finish and supply is only logical.
Having a holo/gold finish be nonconsequential to the overall power just doesn't make sense.
IMO from positions top 10 and above the holo and gold finishes need to be reflected in the overall power, and gold finish being a higher tier than holo, it only follows logically that this would be a larger power advantage over a regular holo finish.
The 100x zoom gold pho has more power than the others. Not a little. Enjoy it. What do you want 10k power to be? Accept that you don't always get what you want!!!!!!
I'm gonna have to say...
It shouldn't be too hard to simply implement a similar weighting that currently exist for illuvitars to the reward illuvitars
t5 s3 with t5s3 bg, 3x accessories, gold finish
I would imagine it would be close to 9k if not more
While I see glitchy's point of the fact they are rewards and not regular... they are still falling within the realm of utility and structure of the system. If they were purely rewards without utility then I'd say sure and take away power as a factor altogether. But since they are within the structure they should reflect the attributes they have been given.
And I don't really think it should be arbitrary
The guy got the strongest illuvitar and he's still not satisfied....a holo rare sear with accessories would be around 7400-7900 power. I don't know what his problem is. I hope he takes his meds before he goes to bed
I don't see it personally... I am looking at the reward illuvitars strictly from a systems and structures perspective
If they are going to exist in the current framework then they should reflect the attrivutes they have been given accurately... otherwise there's no stability in the structure and we could have future problems
I prefer a logical approach that gives them power based on their attributes... simple pimple
the t4s3 illuvitar with t3s1 bg and 20% accessories would have this much power.....not t5 bg
What's the problem then?
the reward sear would be holo t4s3 with t5s3 bg, 1x15% accessory and 1x 20% accessory
there are currently no holo t4s3 with t5 bg nor t4 for that matter
so these are truly special and unique
obvs no t5s3 with those bg either
I would say power needs to reflect their attributes
And I say that the power defined by Rogier is realistic.
you mean from his spreadsheet?
if so I'd say realistic maybe, but arbitrary nonetheless
maybe Alexa's top1 illuvitars could be a little stronger. Just so he doesn't cry
I'm not used to illuvium being arbitrary ๐
These are reward illuvitars. If there is no power that is outstanding, the competitive spirit will also decrease.
I'm going to sleep. Good night everyone. You too Alexa.
Hi. What did I miss?
We trying to come to the correct power numbers for reward illuvitars, as there was a bit of mitchmatch between wave 3's ones and wave 4's - and the complain that they wouldnt be as useful.. eventhough they should be viewed imo a bit mor elike trophies or medals - but i understand they are definitely what you want to show off.
In my opinion, the image itself is unique and that's already very good, and their limited number is also good, the question of how to use them in the future is more appropriate.
I can't speak for everyone but I don't think it's necessarily about showing off, but merely the utility of being able to sleeve it and being worthwhile to do so. With this additional utility comes value, and as they are a carat to extract additional spending from us, the higher the perceived value/utility the better they will be at doing so.
I think the gold stretch goal illuvitars are a very good example of this. The wave 3 gold Pho still holds more value than any of the gold stretch goals from wave 4, even though it was minted into oblivion. This is due to the utility of it, as it was so strong and could be sleeved freely it has a higher perceived value.
This is a clear live demonstration that utility is being valued far greater than collectability, so if the intention is to get people to spend more money, the greater the utility, the greater their perceived value and thus people will spend more to get them.
Well said, I agree.
will get back to this later ๐
I think the same. I would also like to add that if Sear gets 7200 power and Artace gets 6300 power then Phosphorus should not have the same power as Adorius but more. Since the top 5 illuvitar will be stronger than in wave3, it is fair.
so I think everyone would be satisfied
If I could like it... ๐ I don't think showing it off is the point either. It's all the more important that it's useful in the album.
"Spends 10k getting top 5"
well atleast i got this powerless trophy/medal
Exactly, not to diminish the beauty and the rarity, but utility is a huge factor, especially considering the level of investment required to get them.
Those 1/1 illuvitars look better in your account than they do in mine. If you have an extra holo scoriox with similar power, I'd be happy to give you the fludd. ๐
if the power is a little less, that's okay and it doesn't have to be rare
please see the post here #1416037951090982932 message
great ideas from a great person โจ
I see you're reluctant to answer me, but it's irrelevant anyway because I checked your account and you only have weak scorioxes. And you probably want to keep the two rares. ๐
the bonded common scoriox with t2s3 bg is nice. ๐
@vague void we were so close to two beyond competitors agreeing and using the same emote
Progress yess? ๐
any leaks for us to lighten the mood? How's the Beyond Alpha Wars coming along?
Yep I tried to distract a bit with ui update... #๐ฎใilluvium-beyond message
but the fun kept going XD
@pastel bison and I have been polishing up the team builder and hope to make some progress on that over the next couple weeks! We have all been hella busy with things but looking forward to see some more progress with BAW.
Appreciate u checking in โค๏ธ
Will share some live demo screens once the new ui is integrated into the loop of Open screen ----> Team Builder/Choose Illuvitars ---> Generate Deck ----> See deck and card cost... that's our first 'phase' to complete.
Good day, friends! ๐
Iโve decided to create a beginnerโs guide for Illuvium Beyond โ using simple words to help newcomers dive into this amazing world. 
I hope it will be useful for the ecosystem 
In this video, Iโll walk you through everything a beginner needs to know about Illuvium Beyond.
Weโll cover how to buy and open discs, collect Illuvitars, complete albums, and boost your collection with accessories.
Illuvium Beyond isnโt just about collecting โ itโs also play-to-earn: you can earn rewards in NFTs and ILV tokens.
If you...
Awesome stuff! Very thorough and easy to follow<3
Thank you so much, my friend! 
Good job bro! ๐๐
Thanks ๐
Very well done. Enjoyable watch that kept me engaged from start to finish ๐
Will be adding your referral code too ๐
I can be more aggressive on this, I've been the blocker, I'm running several projects and I don't have a lot of time.
I'll finish the code for the first iterations of Team Builder today or tomorrow. Assuming @vague void is happy with it, we should be able to share soon.
Working on it as we speak...
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ser, you did an awesome job. professional video! i loved it and enjoyed every second of it! well done!
Thank you very much ๐
So I didnโt waste my time. Iโm glad. I appreciate your kind words, friends.
Definitely not in vain. Best review on Beyond. GJ! 
Thank you my friend ๐
Great work Winnie!
new toy 
Ayyy
Very good video bro ๐ฅ 
When will wave 5 be? ๐
Good evening everyone, I heard that one of the best accounts ( Hektor8989Monarc ) wanted to leave the game x the things decided and done unfairly, including the rewards of the illuvitar that are low power, and he is right that they are too low and you donโt even put them on the album ... Iโm very sorry... I hope itโs not like that ... heโs always been one of the first protagonists ... heโs always helped everyone, including me ...
Nothing has been decided, the thread is still ongoing. You can view it here and provide your own feedback too: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1416037951090982932
The biggest success for me is you and people like you in the project. But we'll discuss that when we get to know each other in person. โฅ๏ธ
Youโre really a good person too and I canโt wait to meet you ....
He doesnโt let me write in that channel ... he tells me that itโs just for reading ....
So I canโt express my opinion
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Ah sorry about that, i'm not sure exactly what the conditions are on there.
can you check your rank here by typing !rank in there? You need to be lvl 5.
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/814409165010501632
I'm still waiting for jubjub and litr-a-cola's opinions.
@cedar anchor ๐ช
@abstract narwhal ๐บ
Hey fyi we sre determined to find a fix that hopefully statisfies all hence the feedback thread. Dont jump too hard on conclusipns, we'll figure this one out together ๐ง๐
perfect policy
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This glaring problem should have been solved long ago. But instead we put people to sleep.
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I love you man, but this is not the path we want to take.
A healthy, and respectful discussion around a subject can be had, without a constant taste of hostility.
I get it frustrates you, but after watchign this chat for 3 days, it's not really needed.
Lets stay constructive, without diminishing others for their opinions, just cos they don't align with our own โค๏ธ
Not speaking to one individual btw; more an observation ๐
I like you. You know
that's why I don't say anything ๐
Just so we're all clear, this is not an easy fix so changes won't come until Wave 5.
then you should expect many skilled people to leave the project โฅ๏ธ
then Alexa will compete with you and the team
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Ok?
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I hope I was clear
You don't speak for everyone.
The dictatorial government ordered me to talk to you nicely. We'll see who you'll compete with in wave5. The gold titanor is yours now.
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!rank
Johnny, that command is disabled in this channel.
@meager garden it don't work ๐
oh wait bot command channel
slaps forehead
woo level 55 ๐ฆพ
I'm only 31 ๐ฅน
In my opinion it would be to modify them as soon as possible, I saw the link to 2700 I got angry and I sold it, because itโs really low ... you donโt put it anywhere ... but to know I kept it really low as power in addition to Gold ...
I imagine my pages and pages of Zero game design discussion in the early days would have bumped me up a bit.
Hektor is a man who is highly respected in real life for his humanity. If this project is so frivolous that it cannot appreciate these valuable people, then I will go with Hektor too.
I think Hektor's opinion is as important as the others or maybe more than some of us (or should be). He put a lot of effort, enthusiasm, a lot of money and the most important, also HELPED a lot to the others. Helped to get a better place on the leaderboard. So he thought about not just himself to be the best in Beyond, but thought about the others as a community. Nobody can says that he is a selfish person, so it would be really great if his opinion should matter also and not just a whale/whales' from the past. And last but not least Hektor should be appreciated (and not to be threaten) for those efforts that he has put into Illuvium so far , because Illuvium would lose a really great person/Ranger/Beyonder and would not be the same without him. ๐
My friends ๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน
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Family
What a ridiculous take:
- Dev and test resources are constrained, making changes takes effort.
- One person having an opinion doesn't make it right. Even a majority having an opinion doesn't make it right. The team needs to not only consider the opinions of the whole community, they need to ensure (for example) changes don't have a negative long term impact on the the ecosystem.
- We are talking about a small piece of the overall puzzle.
(also they have a process by which opinion can be brought forth by the community and used to change the games, it has happened many times, they literally and provably DO care about what people want)
Yeah, Community = Family I meant.
What is going on?
Brother from another mother
You don't want to know.
I talked to some influential friends who could bring people to the project.
one of them is Alex, the third biggest YouTuber in Hungary with over a million subscribers
Decide whether I need to be here or not.
We have to accept the fact that there is already more than 1 whale in Beyond that means there are more serious opinion and voice, than before. Maybe this cause the tension here.
Lately everyone has been attacking me except for my few friends.
Why would anyone decide if you should be here or not?
decide what you want. a sinking ship or a successful project
b1rdx knows who I am and without making a fuss they love me in real life too
!!!
Sorry Johnny, I struggled I spent a lot to stay in the top 25, then I get a link with a power of 2700, which even with the poorest link with some accessories I overtake it ... Next time Iโll work less ... this is the speech I wanted to say ....
You can insult my friends. You can do anything to us. But everyone can see how many people will stay in the project if things continue like this.
The point is not that you shouldn't be rewarded, its that you shouldn't expect changes to come in a few weeks.
The end-of-wave illuvitars should be better than those you could mint or similar to some strong background ... so as to entice everyone to do better ....
Sure but at what cut off, you might care about top 25 because you came top 25, but what about the top 250? Should they all get something more valuable than the rarest Illuvitar? Where do you draw the line, how powerful is too powerful. These are not easy questions.
I don't want to argue with Johnny and I won't because I love him like a brother.
They are considering options. They will do their best to come to a solution that supports everyone, without negative long term impacts.
It's not easy, I've been on the frontline of these changes, when there were a lot more angry people and lot more money at stake. (Think Illuvium Zero, where 50 million dollars was spent)
but my italian friends come first. we are brothers. and we will go together when it comes to that
I also absolutely donโt want to argue with anyone, I like to solve with everyone and have everyone as friends ....
Putting things as an ultimatum and making things divisive does not help. The team are just people, trying to get a job done. They, far more than you, are invested in the outcome, their very livelihood depends on it.
I guarantee you they are trying to come up with the best solution for Beyond.
Anyone with questions about mattengo should talk to me.!!!
He's my friend and he's not the only Italian who's fed up with everything
!!!
Absolutely ... Iโm sure theyโll find a solution ... I have a lot of confidence in the team and the games ...
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ban everyone, our words will reach infinity anyway
Well then why not chill and stick it out. You can leave if you don't like it, but give them the benefit of the doubt.
They might annnounce a plan in 4 weeks, and have it fully rolled out in 8. In the scheme of things that's not a big deal.
It will be hard to sell if 100-200 decent people come with me.
The point is that if your intent is to effect change you need to give it some time. Staff have a plan of work, if they stop what thy are doing then some other thing gets delayed. They can't just turn on a dime.
Who sent you, my friend? We were brothers.
I'm just letting you know from someone who was working at Illuvium for years: they are listening, you just need to give them time. They have shown time and time again they will change direction based on community wants and needs, they just can't do it fast.
Correct
Anyway real life calls. Ciao!
Plot twist: the topic left, but the drama stayed๐
There is in the name: rewards. So should not be a common one.
Really?
The main thing is donโt be decided by only Alexa. Thatโs all.
you know what I'm interested in. myself and my friends
He won't because all the investors will leave.(
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The cost to the community/Beyond will be far greater if you stay at this point.
Bullying and blackmailing the team is now becoming acceptable behaviour.
What the fuck have we turned into.
I got a lot of threats because of you, all of which I took screenshots of. I can be banned, no problem. But tomorrow 50 people will write in your name in outrage. The day after tomorrow 150. And then 300
I'm starting to think it could actually be good for you to get a timeout. You need to touch some grass Hektor. If you get this much emotional just because of the power of an illuvitar reward maybe you should take a step back, try cool your head and reflect on what you're doing.
This is not an acceptable behaviour and mods have been way more than forgiving with you than anyone I've seen so far in this discord. I would rather we lose a couple investors than perpetuating this toxic environment on what has always been the best and most friendly community in Illuvium.
So please I ask of you to behave and be respectful to others, or measures will be taken.
My friend. I will tell you a short story to teach you my honesty. My whole family has been doctors for generations and I am a lawyer.
Don't talk to me like you would to anyone else
Ok??!!????
You became a team member and you think you're cool. There's real life too. Don't you think so?
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You've been warned about your respect on multiple occasions now; stop pushing it.
Take a day to think about how you conduct yourself
this is crazy toxic behavior ๐ just keeps getting worse
Banter is fine, and so is having a strong opinion, but he knows he is just being too much. it's obnoxious for everyone at this point
Iโve been here since 2021. Iโve had my fair share of lashing out when something didnt go the way I wanted. But I quickly learned to respect the project and team for what it is. I choose to be here, I cant complain that Iโm still here.
In a perfect world maybe we have a perfect game but in real life Iโm proud of where weโre at and where the team has taken us.
Lets keep kicking ass, its only been getting better! Sending my warm creamy love to anyone whos helped get this project where it is
Sometimes u gotta let things play out for a while to see who walks themselves off a cliff /:
We are still here, after 4 years. A ton of people forget how rare that is for a gaming project.
We're in good hands!
Hasnโt been a smooth rideโฆ but Iโm glad I stuck it out. Things looking very good on multiple fronts.
Absolutely. We've had plenty of bumps - but I'd rather be somewhere they use those bumps to elevate and build stronger foundation, that somewhere that let the bumps collapse the structure completely!
Also, the ones who have stuck through the hurdles in this community, have only fueled the team and made things better- So thank you for sticking it out with us! โค๏ธ
Yah I made a particularly conscious choice a while back and made peace with the the major bumps. To be explicit, I lost about 15-20k with zero and I know others lost way more. But those were my choices to invest and I don't blame the team for pivoting and focusing on what has the most chances for success.
Here in Beyond land we have to be real with ourselves. It's a collection game. EVERY collectible has tons of low value things and a few high value. Things start higher during a release phase and then slowly decline as new things are released. It's those special prize pieces that really retain value.
Anyhow, before I ramble too much... I'd rather add to making this place better in the ways that I can cuz it makes it a better place to be.
Hope to see more constructive energy going forward.
Lets just keep heading towards the right direction ๐
I very much respect that take! A much healthier one for sure!
And one that fosters growth and correction of problems; rather than the latter!
Bitterness will never get us anywhere, and we are all here because we love the project (whether that was out our vision for it, or where it's heading)
Im level 18 rank, thought id be more after all these years lol
does this not fuck tho
Mah'mut is gorgeous tbh
Gotta love numbers and art
In my memory, almost everyone, to one degree or another, allowed themselves to break down, disagree, express their opinion... make a decision and move on, with or without Illuvium... I am no exception... Yes, we don't like a lot, we disagree with a lot, we are all different, but Illuvium unites us, and that's great. We are so different, and it is this difference that makes us stronger. @Hektor8989, you are emotional, but you are one of us! I see you decided to take a little rest, do it, and we are waiting for you with renewed strength!
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I am in favor of Rogier's proposal, these powers are wrong and must be corrected now, not in the next wave
They will be corrected but its technically not possible at this moment as there are migrations happening on the collection that make changing anything more difficult - but as soon as we can we will proceed with a change - but this does give us a bit of time to explore all the posiblities and ideas before we hammer it in!
ok thanks, no one is in a hurry and thanks for taking an interest in this
I miss summerilv disks already ๐ when moreeee promoooo
More info soon
Me too, it was the best promo so far. The illuvitars are so beautiful, a really cool disk opening animation and we got the glitch illuvitars for collectors ๐ฅ
Oooooooo this excites me
Are we getting Atlas as a T1 Promo ๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน๐ฅน
Very cool color palette! ๐
@potent tulip WAIT YOU DID A POINTING EMOJI DOES THAT MEAN THERES A CHANCE
I will wait patiently for newsโฆ
there's always room for more Atlas, ain't it? ๐
Youโre edging me too hard it hurts daddy
There will be an atlas in the halloween disk
ok
but would be contained to its halloween collection, like the summerilv one
Yup ๐
Hoping I can grab a maxed one! ๐ญ
Alpha!!!
Always!
templar is the only beyond collection where none have been released yet!
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Congratulations!!!
Congratulations Rich!
Congrats Rich!
@wide swan congratulations and nice watch in the picture ๐
Congrats Rich

Congratulations! @wide swan
This one is exciting
I wonder what spooky illuvials we will get
Monarch since it's a Phantom?
Congrats Rich!
No I named him Geyyserr
Should have named him Blotto
Should have been Steve....
Me having to Google what Steve has to do with Minecraft.๐คฃ
Popular name apparently...
Taiga - Boreal - Kingz would have went HARD
AUGURI!!!!
Excuse me Roger if someone sold an illuvitar as a reward will it be increased in power ?? Or itโs better to buy it back from those who sold it to make it increase
I believe if you sold it then team can't do much. They should only compensate winners and not the secondary market buyers. If you manage to get it back then it shouldn't be a problem but if you dont have it anymore then its gone for you i believe.
And if I buy it back to the one I sold it to ??? Also because whoever bought it stays at 2700 he doesnโt do anything right ??
We should probably wait for @potent tulip to clarify. We don't know the process they will use to change power yet. So probably wise to not jump to conclusions.
Ok thanks ... just to adjust if I should resume the link or not ...
Definitely not bro ๐คฃ
Thats ur fault for selling
Friend I saw a rare link with 2700 of power .... Really absurd .... Thatโs why I sold it ... I didnโt do anything about it ...
In my opinion they shouldnโt have given them so low in power at all ... you donโt invite anyone to climb the ranking
In fact when I saw the power I felt terrible ... a card that I donโt put anywhere .....
It sold for 29 dollars ....
In my opinion a card in reward must be at least stronger than one you find during the wave .... So that you can also add it to the album in several parts ... then yes that one commits to climbing the ranking ...
At 2700 of power yes .... Even $20
Its funny cause i bought one because i didnt care about the power, i bought it cause it looks cool
Rest is gravy
Even if itโs beautiful and I canโt add it to the album ๐ค
so u didnt value the card except for what it did for ur album
I valued it for its rarity regarldess of power, and it looked nice
Yes absolutely beautiful paper ... unfortunately I saw the power I got angry and sold it ... then I also regretted selling it in fact I wanted to take it back ....
Did you buy mine ???
No i got mine off doom
21$
I didn't even notice that but you are right.
Does anybody know why Alexa left?
Probably to remove himself from the recent drama because itโs a waste of time and energy.
Wth ๐ฑ alexa has left the project?
I dont think he left the project
hopefully! we need more rangers like Alexa and not less
Could be a great lost
Yeah, more people would be better, because the Illuvidex is dying.
I can't sell an Illuvitar half of its real price, lol
Maybe everybody are playing OW and Arena
but selling Illuvials is also a challenge
If we are completely honest... Illuvium is making slow steps towards web2. While there are still fundamental crypto elements the choices being made are catering more toward web2 players and have been for some time.
It's a tough choice right? Full web3 and things are determined by hype and cycle. Full web2... boring and non-ownership, but more stable and wider audience.
Who knows what is the right path... but I will say it's noce to see lots more people playing arena.
Just checked with the bank, we're going full web3 to keep the ship afloat
From a personal standpoint, I imagine illuvials gain more value, and perhaps the same for illuvitars, once set 2 begins and set 1 is no longer obtainable. If we have an increase in players as time goes on, the demand for some of these set 1 illuvials, their omegas, their synergy combinations etc, will also increase. Since people are gonna make some gnarly comps etc!
At least, thatโs the reason I continue to collect and expand my collection; thinking a few years ahead!
and Ofcourse, as leviathan etc heats up, people are far more focused on perfect or close to perfect illuvials. The desire for standard/holo/DH comes in time I would imagine
I think we can still catch set 1 Illuvials when set 2 comes, they just become much more rare.
I believe thatโs not the case.
The think that makes them much rarer is the bonding curve - which is currently active.
When set 1 ends, the ability to catch them goes.
Unless they have something different planned for after mmo-lite launches, but this has always been how it was designed!
I think set 2 anytime soon will be a nail to the cross. Many horrible examples in other web3 games and I don't see a single reason to print even more assets (supply) while we are still ignorning demand. 1000$ leviathan tournaments aint gonna cut it
I think a lot of people agree with you. Team have confirmed in an ama a while back that they very likely wonโt be released until at least full mmo-lite launch ( not vertical slice)
I would also love to see some decent sinks for illuvials and possibly other assets before anything new is dropped. The release of set 2 and finish of set 1, along with sinks that reduce set 1, would have a great impact on their demand and future rarity as well
Damn. It's a sad, sad day indeed.
What happened?
dm we chat
can't shove characters down people's throats and then after they're done eating still have a plate full ...
No one was shoving down anything on your throat mate, not in this game anyway... If you bought anything, you did it willingly
I got to catch them all and I'm financially behind
let's say it was a figure of speech letting the appetite of the environment catch up
A few of us in this situation ๐
In the last 3 months only 4 rhamphyres have sold. The latest one sold for 372.17 USD
Does the team have anything in the pipeline to promote growth of this project? Not having a dig I'm just genuinely curious.
And I mean improving the number of people engaging in the product. How will this be achieved ?
I genuinely believe these PFPs are some of the coolest out there. And really hope that this project sees some success, especially for all the OGs who have Diamond handed this through a bear and a bull run now.
Poll from rogier, please thumbs up or down ๐
@runic glade , Is the price estimation accurate as of now?
Have not updated it in a while. Considering current sentiment & that we're between waves it's safe to assume it might be a bit generous in most places. Lmk if something seems wildly off
heya pietro @night basalt sent u a friend req... u have a sec?
tryna get fucking passport transfer working but goddam its a PIA
Any luck?
mmm kinda...
was trying to do it all in an html but then figured needs to use npm + bundler... so I'm jumping thru new hoops to try and get a basic transfer working.... not there yet
Ah. Building some UI
yah trying to get an illuvial rental system and just having trouble getting passport to popup and approve transfers... have passport login okay, but transfers are a PIA
Is there a place where the Battle Ready BattlePass Lura Illuvitar can be placed in the album?
Not yet!
Thank you! ๐
whos selling this guy ? https://immutascan.io/address/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/22240
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Holo Geyyser
#22240
anyone know
Almost like mine
they have another guy I am interested in buy I figured I would ask about the most expensive one lol
Yeah not sure whos that guy
How can we get more activity with Beyond when there's not an active sale going on?
Or could it be possible to always have a sale going?
Think Pokemon Base Set 2. Could there be a sale of previously sold cards, but with a promo stamp that indicates its from a different wave? @potent tulip
Beyond missions would be cool, like pulling off a sale or a trade or buying a specific illuvitar ect
Yeah or even something more simple like "bond a clown nose" Or "bond a cigar" for more mission points.
Stay in your lane straydog
team, the BattlePass Illuvitars are very beautiful, especially with this background ๐ฅ 
got a new sear ๐ฅ 
Question.. I forgot how do I see the illuvitars I had in Beyond for Wave 1. I seem to be missing my rhamphyre. maybe I didn't move it over? I frogot
it is not showing
I am having difficulty migrating..
Be careful in dms. They are very usually scams. Please do not click any links โค๏ธ
If you only have illuvitars in one (not more than one) metamask controlled wallet you can add that metamask controlled wallet as a secondary wallet. You can do that in ACCOUNT SETTINGS under your PROFILE
Dang. I am Three days late to respond
No rewards this week?
Seems they are a bit delayed.
There was problems with claiming earlier today, so I would imagine the automated system problem is tied to that.
Devs were alerted earlier, so hopefully itโll be fixed soon 
Anyone who wants to share their opinion about the 3-month vesting period is welcome to join the discussion.
Illuvium: Beyond | High-level Guide
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Illuvium Beyond Welcome to this beginner's guide to Illuvium Beyond! This is designed as a quick read to help you understand the basics and get started with this exciting part of the Illuvium project. Illuvium is a blockchain-based gaming ecosystem, and Beyond focuses on collectible NFTs. We'll ...
Do we know when the next beyond wave is happening?
no, but we do know there will be a Beyond Halloween ๐
Hi. Is the launch date for the Halloween wave known?
Halloween is just two weeks away.
My government fucks me less than this, and they fuck me pretty hard
Beyond is not included in that, at least for now.
Why is it written that it is though
Personally im okay with it cause im stacking my ilv, but crazy u lose 50% if u want it now
that shouldn't be on Beyond.
check again ๐
Better never see that again ๐คฃ
Why not
both OW players and beyond players are paying customers
OW is getting a revamp, beyond is completely dead
305 dollars for this beauty! wow who sold this dosent know what they were and will be worth
Beaut!!!
Very nice
I sold it. Market is down. I wouldn't consider that a great bargain, a very reasonable price, but not crazy in todays market.
If things turn around and it goes back up to 1-2k well... I've still got lots of Rhamphyres with better BGs. ๐คท
Then i thank you ๐
Only one I think I was too generous on was the Blazing Rhamphyre for 0.12E, soon as it sold several people reached out and said they would have paid more... but I was really curious to see what it would actually move for.
Ahh well ๐
Any Halloween leaks? ๐
Soon
Fomo it will return !!
Work in Progress Coming Soon...
Just forgot to mention the year)๐
Might be on purpose
not anything public just yet a dedicated blog will be released about it, going through all the changes ahead of time but once we're a bit closer to pushing it out. Anything specific you were looking for
- Which Chain
- Timeline
- User Actions for migration
- Custom marketplace?
- Wallet Connect/Auth Type
and more XD
- IMX Zkevm
- Timeline nothing to share yet
- User Actions we're working to make this as seemless as possible but will only be able to confirm actions needed closer to the migration
- Illuvidex will be updated to work for zkevm
- Auth will remain the same as we'd still rely on passport
There will be quiet some work true the migration! Keep up the good work! ๐ช
I noticed that when illuvial are getting burned. Exemple fusion required 3x Pho. The illuvium website is not providing the source of the burned stats illuvial ?
it's like the View Illuvial fusion history is getting deleted somehow ๐
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Which one is atlas? XD
I have lots of illuvials stuck like this. I also have land plots with no history. No mint, no purchase, nadaaa
better thing to do is opening Ticking by report it the issue ingame pressing B
Tier 0 - Earth Fliish
Tier 1 - Atlas ๐
Tier 2 - Nimble Terralynx
Tier 3 - Ghazotep
Tier 4 - Mjoll
Tier 5 - Alphie
Ah, its been like that probably since 2024, Iโm pretty tapped out right now but will check in for the hween sale
The lands i have that issue with are all market purchased, if that helps anyone interested
top left ? might be Atlas.
Thats what i was thinking. INSANE
Nose ring and all lol
It could also maybe be the flish actually
Also the image has 5 illuvials, so maybe atlas isnt even on there xD
Bottom right is definitely ghazo
Mjoll claw ?
Very possible. What about alphie? Is he the one not on the poster?
Whooooo the heck is the top one! Haha. Looks like ShyGuy
Seems like fliish eyes ๐
Maybe but the mouth is way too small!
Top left has a big mouth
I think bottom left is Atlas
Ahhhhh idk the ShyGuy is throwing off my entire guess
Im gonna stop guessing I have no idea ๐ตโ๐ซ
Bottom left :p
Mai hero
He's on there!
Im pamped!
Awesome to hear! I think these promos bring out the best in the team, the art is really cool again. But I am biased :p
@meager garden Really stylish
I'm feeling like years down the road this Halloween Set might be among the most rare Illuvitars
Gimmieee
We need a perfect halloween atlas minted, guys
Dont let this wave end without one!!
Haunted holo..
correct
this may be the most addicting disk of all time so far
but no accessories ?
yes, no accessories.
0.5 ETH or will it cost less?
@meager garden odds of distributing leviathan rewards before this so people have a reason to not instantly get the money out of the ecosystem?
Soon
this chat has been so quiet lately, hope we get to see some cool illuvitar pulls soon 

nice pool
first d1sk
noticed just now the glitched one is bigger in size
and they say vampires should not be visible in the mirror 
2x glitched
nice one
Good?
the red eyes
A beautyyyyyy
where is the holos XD
Is this seriously broken? I don't believe my luck can be this bad . . . I opened 5 D1sks, two of them had 2 Fliish in them, and each of the other 3 also had a Fliish.
7 Fliish in 5 D1sks? Really?
nice disk
double holo
https://portal.illuvium.io/news/beyond/illuvium-beyond-halloween-exclusive-sale-is-live got some giveaway details in the blog in case you missed it ๐
Fitting that this is the next d1sk then XD
Demoniac
My fav so far 

Pretty nice 
Im trying to have dinner..
Love the art for all of them.. they are pretty cool ... happy with my first disk ๐
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best lynx you can get๐ฅ
rare expression , stage 3 BG and holo, only glitch is missing but a real beauty
My friend, what do you think is a fair price for this avatar?
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