🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[wide swan]

Sometimes yes

Mine took like 5-10 mins the other day

[sharp sigil]

Ok lets wait for few more minutes

[finite zealot]

Hungry is cool to get but I still think Phosphorus looks best on the purple background. Still you got a gold fedora in there too! That's a amazing pull.

[sick perch]

Yeah that was a good pull. But I think that was enough for today

🙂

[finite zealot]

You had a good day.

[sick perch]

I'm not sure about that 🙂

[finite zealot]

You didn't pull a holo but you got lots of nice Phosphorus

[sick perch]

I invested more money than they could be sold for.

🙂

[finite zealot]

Yeah, that's why I try to not buy them.

[sick perch]

This was the last disk. 🙂

[finite zealot]

Fludd is so adorable.

[sick perch]

I'm going to bed now. I've had enough of this day. 🥴😆

[sharp sigil]

Something wrong on beyond legacy LB. Someone with 4eth valuation album got highest points

[sick perch]

Good night/day 🙂

[finite zealot]

Good night.

[wide swan]

Is there actually something wrong or we joking that @tepid geyser isn’t in first

[sharp sigil]

That guy has only 4eth valuation for the wallet which is not possible to have 1st rank

Obviously its wrong

[runic glade]

if alexa is not first you can be 99% sure something is wrong

[potent tulip]

Alarming.. 😅

[frank pier]

could be alexa is playing around with moving the wallet between wave 4 lb and main lb, but yeah there is a lot of jumping around top ten that doesn't seem to make sense

@late cradle when people take fuel instead of ilv for their rewards, does that unclaimed ilv go back into the rewards pool or move into the ilv treasury?

[smoky verge]

All rewards are now part of the treasury sir

Since IIP something something all reward tokens are added to the treasury balance and require IMC signoff to be used.

Iip 68.

[frank pier]

Thank you Garf...makes sense to me ...esp.for the good of the project which is all that really matters at this point. come on crypto rally!

[smoky verge]

Yes please 🙏

[frank pier]

Someone was telling me that crypto has done really well over the last year, and I'm like btc has done ok but if you are an eth based investment eth is down 33% over the last 12 months...we need eth, and gaming to take off.

nfts would be a bonus 😉

ps even sol is down 8% over the last year

[smoky verge]

Imo eth was high due to the outlook of new projects cropping up and using the eth network for "amazing things". This year 18 of those projects have cut the cord. And more should come.

Until any project actually takes on traction, Eth hasnt shown its potential.

[frank pier]

seems like they get it and may be addressing it but my point is the last year has not, in general, been great for crypto, and why we need a rally for an ilv fund raise, of which most of the ecosystem is eth based, though fuel is changing that

at the entry point and reinvestment point anyway

btc btw is up 53% yoy which gives the illusion of an up crypto market

interesting that some big players are now starting an eth treasury reserve ala btc..we'll see if this helps as well as eth staking etfs approved

[sharp sigil]

Possible

[tepid geyser]

No there is definitely an issue there. You just need to look at the album.
From a quick glance the individual album points seem ok, so it's not obvious where the additional points are being credited to the overall collection. Has to be a bug somewhere though.

[potent tulip]

Flagged it

[frank pier]

did you have a chance to make sure the keeper points were not credited for 3 gold phos eg as you discussed? That they have to have 3 totally different illuvitars to get credit for LB?

[finite zealot]

What's this? I want to choose three different for that extra points slot rather than just the top points? Didn't know that.

[frank pier]

yep some are doing three gold phos as example and it was stated explicitly they have to be three different illuvitars to count towards LB points...and really it's a great place to show off some of your strong and beautiful illuvitars 🙂

[finite zealot]

I will change it today. Apparently I've been trying to cheat. Oops. 🫣

[tepid geyser]

I think most aren't aware. I only realised when I watched one of the streams.

[sharp sigil]

Are we not allowing multiple accounts anymore for the LB? Is that the reason Alexa has now only 1 account for LB?

[frank pier]

the lb may be messed up and I believe he still has multiple accounts as probably most do, even if it's a trading account, etc. There is no issue with multiple accounts in beyond as you have to pay to be on it, it's not you can play for free like you could with other illuvium games and get rewards. Matter of fact I would guess without multiple accounts the value of illuvitars would probably drop dramatically, and the whole ecosystem suffer. Now if we had a ton of new players, and people could actually sell their duplicate stuff, it might be a different story but for now it makes sense not to worry about multiple accounts (and I say this as someone who would probably see their ilv rewards go up 50% a week if they banned multiple accounts 😉

[sharp sigil]

Agree with you. considering the current volume of beyond players, we dont need to worry about multiple accounts and it would naturally go away when we see lot more players competing for the LB.

[sick perch]

@wide swan I bonded a Sear and a Lynx about 15 minutes ago and I still don't see either one. + I didn't get the holo hilde drone skin after the disks purchases (I have Bach and Chopin)

[hasty grotto]

bonding /mining seems to be taking a while it took one of mine 10 mins or so to mint after bonding

[vague void]

Wen zkEVM?

[hasty grotto]

I didnt know either but changed today barlely noticed a difference

[finite zealot]

Same.
I didn't have two Gold Phos anyway, just one and 2 Holos. Switched one of those for this guy.
He should have had a purple fedora...

[fathom lintel]

something is wrong with the illuvidex, I bought this 30 min ago, my money is gone but the illuvitar is still on the sellers account, not sure who to ping about this, maybe you guys can notify the right person <@&821154860816793604> <@&795142782133207063>

[dapper mason]

Seems very odd, have you already tried to re-log your passport wallet?

[fathom lintel]

there is another one with the same issue

[fathom lintel]

no, will try now

did not help

[dapper mason]

I'll forward this internally, but also send a message to the support team if you can so they can look at the actual data/site and see what's happening here...
Is likely just a delay for some reason, but hopefully we can try see what's happening

#❓❓〕support

Also, let me know if anything updates

[wet plinth]

By checking immutascan, I see that you are the owner of the illuvitar - https://immutascan.io/address/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/892554

However, it seems the sale event was not propagated to our systems due to the reason we are currently investigating....

[fathom lintel]

yes, I checked it too, thanks for looking into it!

[light epoch]

Do anyone know the exact number of Gshock Watch manifactured for wave 3 event ? Beside those 3 white one

[wide swan]

It looks like 275

[light epoch]

tks man

[sick perch]

I only got the Sear today and I got the Lynx half an hour after I bonded it.

[sick perch]

When more people complain about illuvidex, this is not the solution. ✌️🙃

Is clear

[dapper mason]

As I said, I've forwarded it. I was simply trying to find a quick fix. Worth trying 🙂

Also, team member has already replied

[sick perch]

Unfortunately, there are several bugs in illuvidex. I hope everything will be fixed as soon as possible. 💪🙃

The incorrect leaderboard has been fixed I see. 🔥 Someone beat Alexa which is impossible

[haughty rivet]

Damn just bought 2 illuvitars off the market and i didnt get them lol

And funds are gone

[haughty rivet]

Yup just happened to me, uh oh

[sick perch]

I was wrong. The legacy leaderboard is still incorrect. XanDo is the third...

[frank pier]

you can use one gold pho or any or the disk opening rewards, even different expressions of those, just not three of exactly the same..knowing the gold pho specifically gave a huge point advantage, so 3 gold phos defeated the purpose of the keepers album of showing off your illuvitars

[haughty rivet]

When are fixin bought illuvitars not showing up

[serene python]

team is working on it

[dreamy raven]

FYI, it shows up in album, just not in illuvidex / cannot bond

[sick perch]

The whole illuvidex is full of bugs. It would be nice to stop everything for an hour and fix all the bugs.

[haughty rivet]

Nice they showed up!

[vague void]

Might not be an illuvidex issue

[sick perch]

I don't know what the reason is, but I know that nothing is working normally.

😦

[dapper mason]

It's IMX side problems atm, but the team are actively working to get it fixed as soon as they can. All assets are still on your passport / account, it jus won't show. Patience is all you need here, nothing else ❤️

Appereciate the frustrations, but the guys are on it and it hopefully will be resolved as soon as we can sort it with IMX

[sick perch]

Which one will be the top 5 illuvitars?

Reward

I don't remember

I know the top 10 will get artace

@vague void you surely know 😁

[tepid geyser]

Sear

[sick perch]

😮

Nice

[finite zealot]

Awwww....my Steve.
When he gets that "KILL!!!" look in his eyes it makes me so proud of my little guy.🤗

[potent tulip]

From what i read its Apparently a sleeve action issue, a fix will be rolled out before snapshot. But more info and if any actions are needed will be communicated once we know for sure its workin.

[sick perch]

Thanks Rogier! 🙏🤝

[sharp sigil]

Xando is still at no.3 and i notice some special things when i looked at the wallet. Special bonding 😀.

How is it possible to have more than 5mil points on the account?

Beyondilluvitars.pro site also consider it in top 5. Something is not right here...

[haughty rivet]

Some illuvitars just hit different

[sick perch]

My phosphorus 🥹

[frank pier]

and not familiar with that name...I think a clown nose was called for here

[tepid geyser]

Beyondilluvitars.pro is just pulling in data from the illuvium API I believe, therefore if the account is rank 3 on the illuvium website it will be on there too as it is the same data populating both.

It has been flagged and the team are looking into it. Hopefully it is resolved before snapshot to avoid any delays.

[runic glade]

correct, i rely on their leaderboard api for rankings

[icy raft]

@fathom lintel @haughty rivet IMX has informed us that the issues above should now be resolved on their end. This may fully address the problem, but our Europe team will review IMX’s fixes once they’re back online.

[hasty grotto]

any eta on the wave 4 promo partner ima holding off on bonding and buying more untill then 😉

[sick perch]

Why are wave4 illuvitars so underrated? ( btw, I love beyondepro, professional site 🙂 )

[runic glade]

Estimates are a pain, if it gets too out of whack I’ll do a refresh.

[cerulean quartz]

just wanted to check to as part of rewards you get 1 mega every 80 disks, which is 80 x5 dollars is 400 dollars is the correct ?

[cerulean quartz]

they are awesome

[cerulean quartz]

oh yesss thanks for the reminder

[cerulean quartz]

yeah I also looked insaine bonding , like horrible !

[cerulean quartz]

for everyone ?

[sick perch]

This is just a bonus. Opening the disks has other benefits as well 🙂

[cerulean quartz]

yeah ofc just wanted to know if my maths is right !

[wooden ice]

So...red noses are blue on all sears? Or just mine?

[wide swan]

Whoa that’s cool lol

@barren bobcat

1 of kind there

[barren bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

[wooden ice]

Sadly, it happens to all of my sear. Otherwise, instant bond. But maybe, still tempted tbh.

[barren bobcat]

I suspect Svetlana may have gone rogue there, so it stands out more from the portrait. What's the consensus? Keep it blue, or back to red?

[serene python]

Glowy orange

Almost yellow-white

Like his mouth

[barren bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/did-i-stutter-was-i-clear-not-clear-confident-assured-gif-15661924

[wide swan]

I like it blue

Unique

And now it’s like an Easter egg

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/but-he-hee-eh-ehh-gif-18664069

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-gif-18370552922777914358

[wide swan]

Leaderboard fix was applied today, only the one account had been affected but it is now fixed.

[finite zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/clown-clownery-tricky-clownery-will-not-be-tolerated-clowns-gif-27012373

All clown noses should be banned regardless of colour.

[barren bobcat]

I'm with you, not up to me though :p

[finite zealot]

We need an IIP to make you in charge of clown noses. 😂

[barren bobcat]

I will do all in my very limited power to remove them for Set 2 :p

[wide swan]

Clown hair instead of nose?

[pseudo pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/rogers-clown-mask-gif-15655151

[wide swan]

Mime mask

https://tenor.com/view/no-le-mime-nope-finger-wag-gif-14515247

[pseudo pagoda]

I like idea artifact of the first joke

[sick perch]

I can't put the illuvitars into the album. Has anyone had a similar problem?

[vague void]

https://tenor.com/view/bonjour-fake-mustache-gif-5029870

Careful what we wish for 😅

[sick perch]

and the site is very slow

:/

[sick perch]

Has this happened to you too?

[vague void]

What?

[sick perch]

☝️

[vague void]

Sleeve issues?

Nothing crazy

[sick perch]

now put it in the album after the tenth attempt

[vague void]

If we gonna count T0 in each wave LB... Then there should be wave specific T0 in each wave collection so they do not lose utility. @potent tulip

28 + w4 TO

[quartz estuary]

Zorro😄

[frank pier]

yeah I'd have rather we didn't have wave specific zeros count towards that waves lb as it makes my high point other wave zeros less valuable in ways, but it has kept holo wave 4 zeros from going to $2 right away...but eventually they still will given enough supply and those who are doing wave 4 zeros filling all their slots

[vague void]

exactly... their use case will vanish each wave and is delaying inevitable drop

but if you include them in wave collections then at least they retain utility value and therefore actual value

[frank pier]

would you then go back and add wave specific zero albums for each wave? probably better to wait till next set to do this

[vague void]

yes

shouldn't be a problem... they retro'd for lynxes

why not t0

[frank pier]

lol that is a lot of extra zeros 😉

well make zeros more valuable

I think lynxes made sense, not sure on this 😉

[vague void]

Then some other solution... because as it is now it makes them a waste

[frank pier]

I hear you and understand 🙂

Are you even trying to do a wave 4 zero album? I'm not bothering for the most part

[vague void]

not with determination... but casually yah

[haughty rivet]

No more t’0s please

[vague void]

The dilemma will continue if t0 BG count toward LB

[vague void]

Sneak attack new meta XD

[frank pier]

yeah I hope they give warning if they do something this substantial..not just spring it on us 😉

[sick perch]

Imx is not working again. I want to send something to someone and I can't.

[fathom lintel]

bonding is not working either...

at least not for me

[sick perch]

It would be nice if everything went well for at least a week. 🤦

[sick perch]

great news on snapshot day...

[fathom lintel]

do you think you can ping someone from the team who can take a look at this ser? @wide swan snapshot in 6 hours and we can't bond or transfer items

[wide swan]

Yes

we are looking into it

seems to be an IMX issue

[vague void]

What's inside? 👀
Let's find out 😄

#1 junk

#2 not bad

#3 junkier than #1 😑

[wide swan]

Should I open some wave 3s

[frank pier]

hope they fixed the credit for gold phos in the keeper album..ie not having multiples

[gentle otter]

I bought some discs but I'm a complete beginner in beyond
How can I determine the price of an illuvitars?
What should I look for?

[vague void]

easiest is to look at recent sales filter on illuvidex to see what things have been selling for

[gentle otter]

that's okay but they're so different that it's a bit confusing to me

[vague void]

ah yah

basically u wanna check the bg also

t1-t5 and the stage

the higher the tier and stage bg the better

[gentle otter]

aham ty:)

[frank pier]

welcome btw 🙂
And there are incentives for opening disk and then also filling out your album (weekly rewards). there is a good blog on it if you want to dive in further

[gentle otter]

thank you for the welcome yes I know the reward system if I can say I feel at home in OW I really like it.
I'm really looking forward to the promised improvements..
I thought I'd try beyond too but to be honest it didn't really grab me

[haughty rivet]

Welcome!!! Keep a hold of your favourites! Thats what matters

If u like them odds are others do too

If u have any questions on worth just dm me ill make sure no one around here sneaks one on ya

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[hazy juniper]

Omg thats lit

[meager garden]

something isn't right with the autofill... Just re-sleeved my collection and lost points 😦

[echo gazelle]

That's why I'm in Web3 😎

[meager garden]

juicy rewards

[main snow]

Luggis 2.0

[icy raft]

Thanks for flagging @meager garden. We're looking into this.

[night basalt]

do you recall:

• how many points you had
• which LB you dropped points in (Set or Wave)
• which autofill you used

[meager garden]

I had 3,164,xxx optimized for wave 4 with the best album keepers for set 1

unfortunately I just did some bonds now so don't recall exactly the number I dropped to but I think it was 3,152,xxx if I'm not mistaken.

[night basalt]

so you optimized for W4 and dropped in Set 1 LB? (little bit confused here)

[meager garden]

I was optimized for W4 and I optimized again for W4 since I opened some d1sks and I lost points.

[night basalt]

ahh, gotya

[wooden ice]

Is that not normal? If you pulled tier 0's and did not bond them (but you did in previous waves) you should lose some points, no?

[meager garden]

but I already had the T0 collection filled for W4

[night basalt]

but you lost points on W4 LB? cuz above you gave number for Set 1

So if you optimised for W4, and you had new illuvials from W4 they could replace some W3 Illuvitars

bumping you up on W4 LB and getting you down on Set 1 LB

[wooden ice]

Global tier 0's become wave 4's as well after optimising for wave 4. Even when super weak.

[meager garden]

ah ok that's probably it, I was looking at the album points

sorry for the confusion then

[night basalt]

no worries, report everything weird, better safe than sorry

[light epoch]

hey guys, where can we see the rarity of illuvitar, like 1 out of 1000000 pull, stull like the old illu master data

[small garnet]

hey guys, ıs an update taking place at the beyond rwards?

[light epoch]

ah found it, beyondillu pro

[small garnet]

after the snapshot, rewards were added to ''my rewards'', but now when I check, they are not showing

[vague void]

Must be something up... all my beyond rewards are not showing

[night basalt]

Got a secret message from a dev that fix is coming 🙏

[night basalt]

Magic magic, can you guys check now 👀

[small garnet]

thanks a lot for the quick fix!

[night basalt]

It is a one piece of a dev this guy who fixed it

||Our brightest one but don't tell other devs cuz the will get jealous 🥶||

[wide swan]

you ready

[potent tulip]

need that Dulox

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/so-damn-hot-a-gif-27090326

[frank pier]

make sure to check your offers daily

[dull pilot]

nice dopey scarabok in standard

[tepid geyser]

Love the colour match on that one 😍

[dull pilot]

that´s a nice fern

highest power non holo in this background

[sick perch]

Congratulations bro. Amazing. 👏🎉✨💪

[dull pilot]

thanks bro i´m very happy with this one

[tepid geyser]

Looks amazing! I have the common sibling 😅
Whoever did the artwork on the Fern really killed it 🔥

[dull pilot]

True 💯 amazing illuvitar with amazing background

[finite zealot]

Agreed. Fern is one of the absolute best Illuvitars. The expression is perfect.

[frank pier]

The cigars do not work with the octius...it looks like it's coming out of the eye

[hazy juniper]

Anyone want this for $300 USD. I'm desperate for a cash injection

For something

You have 60 minutes to confirm

[cerulean quartz]

Hi Rich is there a rough date for the promotion wave ?

[cerulean quartz]

Wow fir real ? That's quite a error !

[cerulean quartz]

Standard disk ?

[wide swan]

I don't have it yet… well i dont know/remember how much I can say 😅 I thinknkieran already said some stuff so I don't want to say by accident

[light epoch]

Last wave it was 20 day before promo drop

But we are close and no news , I would guess roughly 10 more days for the news drop

Then 10-20 days for promo

So around July

just my gambling deduction

[pseudo pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/pepto-bismol-pepto-pink-stuff-hey-pepto-bismol-pepto-bismol-dance-gif-17519916025161392710

promo leak

[dull pilot]

no it was a mega disk

[sick perch]

Finally ✨

[haughty rivet]

Wow!!! Congrats on the happy lura!

[sick perch]

dude....😆

[sick perch]

The stage3 BG doka is the point. You were inattentive again...

[sick perch]

🫣

[lilac olive]

🚀

[past tundra]

Hmm I must have a suspicious fern

Actually…

https://tenor.com/view/pelican-eating-fish-nope-lazy-wild-animals-gif-8510949

I’m too cheap. But I did get these.

Got a set now to go with my pull

[vague void]

that's gorgeous

[dull pilot]

this is a pretty nice fern

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-haha-funny-nod-oh-gif-17332127

I was gonna make a low ball offer but it was too low for your listing price.

[dull pilot]

Yes, it's overpriced at the moment but if I ever sell it I can let you know

[past tundra]

I’ve not yet been able to convince myself that anything with that background was worth paying for yet. But I do keep thinking about it.

[sick perch]

@runic glade beyondpro not working?

[runic glade]

fixed!

[languid star]

Have we heard anything about how the next promo sale will work? Previously we had to use ETH, will we be able to use FUEL now?

[tepid geyser]

Good question.

[frank pier]

think you will have to use fuel..one of there better improvents for the ecosystem

[serene python]

most likely eth.
At least that's what was communicated some time ago for promo sales.

but was with the old fuel system... might have changed meanwhile.

[languid star]

That would be nice

[languid star]

I'm also thinking most likely ETH, but with the changes who knows. Doesn't look like it's been communicated yet

[serene python]

yes not really.
but infos about promo sale should be coming pretty soon i guess, based on past waves experience.

[meager garden]

a thread regarding the next promo sale will be coming soon.

[vague void]

My bet is on eth

[sick perch]

Same

[haughty rivet]

Just got ur dm and sent u my alpha rhamphyre, cheers 🍻

[serene python]

i did not sent you a dm

[meager garden]

oh boy

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/trollface-gif-8242347154758580084

The amount of dr spoons that add me is crazy

[serene python]

😄
So you didn't send your precious alpha rhamphyre?

[serene python]

i never get added by dr.spoons 😔

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-no-gif-5798318147221316045

[serene python]

https://tenor.com/view/whew-goldblum-gif-9488217759752037566

[vague void]

I'm sure they'd send it back 😄

[keen forum]

Hi everyone, hopefully this partnership will bring some demand for Beyond. Honestly, I find Wave 4 much improved compared to the previous ones, both in terms of reward structure and the album/design. However, there's very little demand, and there are many reasons for that — without listing them all, I think marketing is one of the main issues, even if that’s just my two cents.

Maybe a good idea could be to introduce weekly missions where the objective is to find certain Illuvitars? Then, based on the points earned, you could get fuel (so it doesn't impact ILV), or disks, or Overworld runs — just to give people some goals and keep the “game” active.

[wispy trail]

Hi does anyone know when my ADR points show up after running ADR? I purchased some fuels and tried over a dozen ADR but no points show on my account when i check the leaderboard.

[vague void]

there are always ways to create demand

[frank pier]

scoriox did a video today where he talked about the huge number the illuvium games could draw...my question is how are they even going to hear about them and then be motivated to play them

[vague void]

Mr K stated he doesn't really want lotsa ppl rn... not til things are ready

[minor ruin]

Gauntlet just got feature complete this week. Its getting polished for 1-2 months now and then marketing will start along with the competitive scene

[tepid geyser]

Makes perfect sense.

[vague void]

yep... til then, tell a fren

[trim aurora]

I am selling 10000+ illuvitars. Prefer to sell and pass them all over. I am on beyond leaderboard. Sensible and reasonable offers will be considered.

[sick perch]

@runic glade How do you determine the value of the illuvitars? It is not possible to calculate an exact value based on the sale price because in most cases the illuvitars are sold below the real price. 🙂

cyberpunk artace none were sold. I have two and the weaker one is worth more

The T2 BG was in a red box. I don't think the value of this would be equal to the price of two megadisks

My holo rare mah'mut, of which there will probably never be another, is valued at $350.

A lot of people use the site so it would be nice if there were more realistic values.

[meager garden]

the mah'mut is T4 and way rarer so not a good comparison. Overall the prices are rather accurate.

[sick perch]

The prices are not accurate at all. For snipers it is probably realistic, maybe even high...

[meager garden]

how is it not accurate if it reflects their sell prices?

[sick perch]

Buy disks for 15-20k and then I'll ask you if you think it's realistic or not

Do you think the selling prices are accurate? 🤦

[meager garden]

ofc I do, if tha't's what they were traded for, both parties agreed on that price.

you seem to think $ spent on d1sks should be equivalent to $ value from the d1sk contents but that's not true. You're paying for the dopamine of opening a d1sk and having the chance to be lucky.

[sick perch]

Even if you are the luckiest person in the world, you can't be lucky at these prices. And I think it's stupid that you open disks for dopamine. If you know in advance that whatever you find, you will still lose, then there is nothing to produce dopamine. Dopamine is produced because you hope to get more value than your invested money

🙂

[meager garden]

well value is derived from supply and demand. And you're clearly lacking on the latter. So for now prices are accurate. Doesn't mean that won't change in the future.

and what I said about being lucky is to pull something that is rare. Doesn't necessarily have to translate to it being valuable $ wise.

[sick perch]

But usually the two are the same. If something is rare then it is usually valuable

I don't even want to argue with you, my friend, that the prices are shown incorrectly on the site. Artace was just one example out of 100.

Do you even look at the picture? The weaker one is valued more expensively

Nonsense

[light epoch]

can you paste the link of 2 illuvitar in here ?

[sick perch]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/903605

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/902619

[runic glade]

Like I’ve mentioned before pricing things is tricky and there might be some discrepancies, specially for newer waves (haven’t updated wave 4 in a while will do soon). I agree that example is slightly off but it’s a fixable edge case.
The primary purpose of the site has been to help with album optimizations and showing off collections.
I added rough pricing estimates to try and fill the giant void IM left when it shut down, but that hasn’t been the main focus (and probably won’t be)

[sick perch]

Otherwise, it's a very professional and useful site. It's just that many people use these prices as a basis to buy illuvitars as cheaply as possible.

This is the only thing that bothers me a little.

🙂

This is one of the most valuable illuvitars of wave4. Even if it's just an estimated price, I don't think it would be the same as the price of 11-12 megadisks.

It's not a big problem for now. It would be very confusing if I wanted to sell the album like many others. Because everyone uses beyondpro as a basis for album pricing 😬

but I don't want there to be any misunderstanding. I respect your work and I emphasize once again that the site is very great and useful apart from that 🙏🤝✌️🙃

[pseudo pagoda]

Nows not time to sell hold diamon hands

[drowsy shuttle]

Hi. I may be wrong, but if my memory serves me right, pricing is based on the lowest price at which a similar illuvitar was sold on the market. That's why such sites don't always have adequate recommendations.

[sick perch]

There is only one listed and none have been sold.

But we can close the topic. Dave also said that the point of the site is not to show the exact prices 🙂

[drowsy shuttle]

I agree, and there is no need for this, the recommendations of such helper sites have their own pricing formula. We can take it as a guide, but in a free market our pricing may differ from any other vision, this is normal, everyone has their own values.

[sick perch]

Perfect wording 🤝

[vapid imp]

im about 90% sure there is also an error in how it calculate rarity

[runic glade]

do you have an example

[tepid geyser]

👆 Always seems pretty bang on to me.

[vapid imp]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-let-me-cook-lemme-cook-let-em-cook-let-me-think-gif-6886216696350233328

iknow T5S3 background is rare, but lynx is pulled almost every disk, and 6 rare expression lynx T5S3 background has been pulled since wave1
only 1 T5S3 illuvitar rare expression holo has been pulled since wave 1

so either it is defying all odds and is close to miracle or something dont add up, since the lynx is almost x2 as rare but is pulled 6 to 1 😛

[sick perch]

I think the rarity is pretty accurate. I have to agree with that. Mah'mut could also be on the list but then it would be fair that Alexa's Scoriox would also be on the list because that is also t3 BG

[vapid imp]

mathematics was always fake anyways

[pseudo pagoda]

would a more average hit be worth more if it was one of one?

[sick perch]

these lynxes are not on the list of rarest illuvitars

🙂

[pseudo pagoda]

outcome is key even though scarcity seems to rule of value but what about outcome equaling scarcity

[sick perch]

that's what I meant

there are only holo lynxes here and they are listed correctly

[haughty rivet]

Are they even alpha tho

[vapid imp]

you know what they say one miracle rarely comes alone, anyways gg

[frank pier]

and you all whine about the site but he does it for free and just asks you to send some illuvitars from time to time as a thank you? Do you all do this?????

[meager garden]

https://tenor.com/view/go-away-oops-awkward-big-eyes-gif-1236606401277977014

[sick perch]

If you read what I wrote you will see that I only disagreed with the prices. Otherwise I praised him for making a great site that is very useful!!!

[runic glade]

you can calculate the odds yourself based on what was published for wave2 odds, it's correct for 1x random illuvitar. let me know if your math shows something different!

[runic glade]

I didn't see it as whining, just folks have some questions am happy to answer 🙂

[sick perch]

Those who hunt for cheap pieces in the market are not bothered by the low prices. It is even favorable for them to bargain. 😅

If they had bought disks for 15-20 thousand dollars their opinion would be different

...

[vapid imp]

wasent meant as whining either just wanted to let you know, but if you used illuviums numbers the issues seem to be els where

[tepid geyser]

I don't believe it would.
It's fairly clear for all to see that demand is extremely low, so it only follows that prices will follow.
You have to invest accordingly if you are looking for short term returns, if not and you have a longer term outlook then it's whatever.
Even if Dave figured it to put a price of $10k on your Mah'mut, it may make you feel better but still no-one would pay it as it wouldn't be anywhere near a true reflection of the current market expectations.
It's worth what someone is willing to pay and in this market, that isn't much, that's just the reality of it, like it or not.

[sick perch]

As you say. I would feel better. But otherwise I can't refute what you say. You are right about everything 🤝

[sick dock]

why my pfp is not there

[sick perch]

which?

[sick perch]

I think this should be there too. Really nice

but my mah'mut is also not among the rarest and the weaker geyyser is there.

🤷

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/pout-kiss-blowing-a-kiss-suspense-christian-bale-gif-16931550113965916217

Alpha is king

[tepid geyser]

It isn't a popularity contest 😂
The list is based on the statistical odds of being pulled.
Like Dave mentioned, the math is public, if you spot a flaw in there let him know, i'm sure he'd be more than happy to update it.

[sick perch]

Holo rare geyyser has three, holo rare mah'mut has two. Can be updated 🤣

• I think your Scoriox has a place there too

😉

It would have been better if I hadn't said anything. That was the topic today. 😬

[runic glade]

Wave 1 tier 4 pull odds are 1.6%. Wave 4 are 2.5%

[sick perch]

Where can these be checked? 🙂

[runic glade]

Buyer guides for the respective waves

[sick perch]

And if we also take into account the background? then I think there is no more 2.5%

There are a total of 11 rare, holo, t4s3. Only two of them have t3 BG.

Alexa's Scoriox and this Mah'mut

In the case of rarity, the background must also be taken into account

[runic glade]

Tier 1 stage 3 bg in wave 1 is rarer than tier 3 stage 1 bg in wave 4

[sick perch]

So it's a much lower percentage. but this is just an opinion. I don't know the exact data. So sorry if I wrote something stupid

[sick perch]

Ok 🤝

[tepid geyser]

Not stupid, you just didn't know.

[sick perch]

Then at the end of the wave we'll see how many more will have similar or better backgrounds

😉

[vague void]

wen promo?

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[sick dock]

Starwars no

[sick perch]

I think you will compete with both accounts in this wave, right?

I only care because it will determine whether I'll be fifth or sixth in the end

[sick dock]

?

It’s about albums you can optimise

[haughty rivet]

Backgrounds!

https://tenor.com/view/why-just-why-but-why-monkey-gif-18202838286539704455

[tepid geyser]

Wave 4?, no just the 1 account this time.

Looks like you're shaping up to do better that 5th or 6th.

[sick perch]

I don't think so. Hyperhunter, litr-a-cola, Raty. They're all stronger than me.

[sick perch]

• I apologize for overreacting to the Mah'mut case last time. No one is obligated to buy anything. And everyone offers as much as they want. I acted stupidly...

[tepid geyser]

I suppose in the final week most may end up optimising for wave 4 in an attempt to grab the rare illuvitars.
For now it makes more sense for most OG accounts to optimise for legacy.

I apologize for overreacting to the Mah'mut case last time. No one is obligated to buy anything. And everyone offers as much as they want. I acted stupidly...

Don't worry about it.

[sick perch]

I'm curious to see how much the rankings will change in the end and who will be in the top 10. 🙂

But it's hard to believe that the Alexa account won't be in the top 5. It will be there even if you don't want it to be. 🤪

[haughty rivet]

Proud # 20 in legacy with half of my album unbonded lol

[cedar anchor]

Anyone know why it's taking so long to mint new illuvitars? I pulled a decent holo but it's been 20 mins and it doesn't even look like it's trying to mint.

[frank pier]

this has been happening from time to time..if you don't see it in a few hours create a ticket to check it

[cedar anchor]

I guess just take a screenshot of the opened disk to prove it happened??

Ok, all good. Finally minted.

[vague void]

pic? 👀

[cedar anchor]

Had a few of them actually. They all took 20-30 mins to mint, but all did finally arrive.

Not too shabby for standard disks!

[tepid geyser]

I guess that makes you Litre-a-cola?
Really nice pulls! 🔥

[cedar anchor]

Indeed. Thanks Alexa!

[cedar anchor]

It wouldn't let me be "Farva"

[tepid geyser]

Nice to finally know 😄 .
That Lynx is the rarest pull this wave 🎉

[tepid geyser]

It's surprising how many names have already been registered. Mine were far from my first choices too.

[cedar anchor]

I agree. Didn't think it would be so hard, especially early on, to find a good name.

[cedar anchor]

You think? It's rare for the background, but didn't think it was that rare. Trying to figure out what to do with it.

[tepid geyser]

Yeah almost cracked top 20 rarest , 1 in 8 million odds that.
Crazy lucky.

[cedar anchor]

Even more so coming in a standard disk! Only opened about 30 standards today, got all 3 of those. Best run I've ever had I think.

[tepid geyser]

Trying to figure out what to do with it.

I'm always open for donations

Even more so coming in a standard disk! Only opened about 30 standards today, got all 3 of those. Best run I've ever had I think.

Coming out of a standard I think that would make it even rarer, as those odds are pulling from a mega D1sk I believe.
Maybe you should consider buying a lottery ticket .

[cedar anchor]

You and me both!

[haughty rivet]

No point in getting a ticket! The luck was used 🤣

[cedar anchor]

I think it's like a muscle, the more you use it, the stronger it gets!

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/itysl-i-think-you-should-leave-give-me-that-give-me-give-gif-23125119

Gz on the hit tho damn, almost first maxed out lynx stage 3

[blissful bloom]

Do we know if we can buy the wave 4 promo disks with fuel? I have to fund the account and i want to know if i add fuel or eth. Hopefully fuel

[cedar anchor]

good question. I'd like to know that too!

[cedar anchor]

I got itchy and bought some more disks. This is the second one. The luck is still strong! May need to buy that ticket.

[vague void]

#🛒〕beyond-dex

[arctic hollow]

Oops thank you @vague void

[vapid imp]

carefull doing it so early, if i did that all fuel would properly end up being used before the promo is out 😂

[blissful bloom]

If i dont add funds when i get the paycheck, i wont have any more money when the promo is out 🥲

[serene python]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1382308702547214346

Make sure to cast your vote!

[light epoch]

look like an easy win for vote 1

but does that mean wave 4 promo won't be coming any time soon.

sad

[potent tulip]

Timeline hasnt changed. Before end of wave if i recall corrctly

[frank pier]

so what happened to the "amazing" promo partner?
At least we won't have to split rev. with someone who brings no new people to the ecosystem, but if that is the case we might as well keep the same fuel to buy promo disks as we have done with wave 4.

[potent tulip]

Dont see why not

[frank pier]

and I know you are not in charge of dates, but could you have them put out a teaser at least? Like coming in July, or something. As you can tell people are looking forward to your genius artwork

ps what theme would you like of the ones you presented?

[drowsy shuttle]

if you make promo illuvitars like Alpha so they shimmer in their own way... it would definitely add value..

[potent tulip]

Will take a dive into it. I personally like the summer one.

I think that could be rly funny

[frank pier]

yeah me too...followed by borg

[potent tulip]

Is it due to theme or flavour text... 😂

[frank pier]

the summer shimmer

[vapid imp]

tbh i do not really like any of them to original for me, i would perf to do something that would be game related
etc a gauntlet promo with illuvitars in different arenas and with different drones

[languid star]

Voted!

[finite zealot]

Remember the summer picture with the Illuvials at the beach? It was such a cute pic that I had to vote for the summer one.

[drowsy shuttle]

I agree, a breath of fresh air certainly wouldn't hurt us ))

[pseudo pagoda]

How can i see all the pics ?

[blissful bloom]

Stereotypically, i like the bionic one. As i also like tough illuvials, not cute ones

[wide swan]

I can't believe the meme movie one didn't get more votes

Imagine Samuel l Jackson Illuvitars

https://tenor.com/view/vincent-vega-jules-winnfield-john-travolta-samuel-l-jackson-quentin-tarantino-gif-9489009769396273159

Or even Taylor Swift

We could have elon and Trump illuvitars @potent tulip

😆

[drowsy shuttle]

I think this couple can also be equated to cuteness)))

[wide swan]

I'm just saying pop culture illuvitars could be amazing

And bring outside eyes still

Some people don't like summer time… I Mean they are insane but its true lol

[drowsy shuttle]

That's why we vote)

[wide swan]

I'm trying to sell my voting choice

We could do Meme coins

Pepe, DOGE, WIF

[drowsy shuttle]

If they are on the beach, relaxing and enjoying life. Be sure, my vote will be on your side ))) 😆

[tepid geyser]

I agree, pop culture wins by a country mile for me too.

[wide swan]

That's the support I needed

[frank pier]

I would think we'd have some copyright issues here

[wide swan]

Nah, there are plenty you could do and get away with I think

[frank pier]

this is your law degree speaking? 😉

[wide swan]

I'll consult scruba 😆

[meager garden]

wasn't that one of Ron Burgundy's threads? 😅

[finite zealot]

This is the one!
This face kills me.

[wide swan]

Like when it got shot in the butt

In that one overworld trailer

[finite zealot]

That one is stored in my memory for when I need a laugh. 🤣

[tepid geyser]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1020759212172775464/threads/1345245859729641522

With the looks of it I think he wanted actual celebrities in the artwork, at least that's my understanding.

[wide swan]

Yeah he wanted Taylor swift

I think Rogier and dan could come up with better, I like the idea of community coming up with the pop culture ideas

Michael Jackson Doka

Joe Rogan… Bear?

I like the idea of meme coins too though

But I don't think there is enough good ones

[tepid geyser]

If you used a broad spectrum of influences, memes, political, music, movies etc, you likely would only need to use 1 or 2 meme coins.

[finite zealot]

We could use a Donald Trump Hair accessory.

https://tenor.com/view/trump-dance-trump-2024-trump-gif-12734161508561409577

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-vào-mặt-cái-cám-bonk-anime-bonk-meme-bonk-dog-gif-26069974

[tepid geyser]

Limitless possibilities.

[wide swan]

Goku

[blissful bloom]

Imagine if taylor swift had a carblu after her. And she make all the swifties join illuvium

Not a fan of her. I am just taking advantage of popularity

Anime illuvitars would be cool

https://tenor.com/view/solo-leveling-arise-solo-leveling-arise-gif-4562500486549573462

[blissful bloom]

This is how i imagine i'd summon sear

[barren bobcat]

Nah, as long as we don't use the names of any properties there's a lot we could do. You can't copyright generic clothing, and even if we recreated iconic poses it would fall under parody

[frank pier]

but likeness is protected right? so you can't have the orange man's face on something can you?

they can argue correctly they control their likeness and also it looks like they endorse it

esp. if you are selling something

and hopefully nothing political

[tepid geyser]

No Octius wearing a MAGA hat 🤦‍♂️

[barren bobcat]

Likeness is protected yes, and I wouldn't want the orange man's face on anything.

Can we draw Samuel L Jackson, no.
Can we draw an illuvial in a black suit with an afro and sideburns, yes.
That sort of thing

[wide swan]

Yessss

[wide swan]

I think more like doka actually, red doka with the hair and hat lol

Or vermi

[barren bobcat]

We'll make sure they aren't all cute whichever theme is chosen 🫡

[frank pier]

I don't think we've had any tattoos yet have we? I'd be for that

[potent tulip]

sir.. Doka is a lib

[barren bobcat]

I'm not sure what you mean, tattoos as a theme?

[frank pier]

on the illuvitar

on some, the tough or cool ones

[barren bobcat]

Would depend on the theme I guess. I'm sure there would be loads on the heavy metal ones, probably makes less sense if its 'summer'.
But I don't think adding tattoos stops something being cute though, so I might just be misunderstanding

[frank pier]

well an ilv tat would seem to be perfect...and remember pick different illuvitars than the ones we get as rewards for wave 4 disks please

[tepid geyser]

Looking like it will be summer. Way out ahead with the voting 👀

[frank pier]

stevo just made a big jump...will noob bond some stuff quick?

and will hektor move top ten?

suspense 🙂

stevo must have another account he hides stuff in because he jumped over 200k in points, more than it showed unsleeved

[tepid geyser]

Yeah Ratty does the same thing.
No doubt others will too.

[frank pier]

sorta fun 😉

[finite zealot]

This is how I would summon my Sear:

https://tenor.com/view/steve-prairie-dog-gif-13190864

[frank pier]

well that was boring...no last minute changes 😉

please include nfts:
The projected market for trading cards in 2030, according to research firms Global Information and QY Research — more than double its size in 2023. Growth in trading cards skyrocketed during the COVID-19 pandemic as more people stayed home, and their value as keepsakes has also surged.

Rewards in already?

damn they are getting good! They have improved so many parts of Beyond, not lets get the rest of ILV to take off!

[cedar anchor]

I thought multi-accounting was banned now?

[tepid geyser]

I don't think it is in Beyond.
They don't seem to be using the secondary accounts to rank though, just hide what they're up to so they can spring up on leaderboard without anyone seeing what they're up to.

[vague void]

i forgot it was snapshot day 😅

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/newsradio-wnyx-news-radio-90s-gif-24558312

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/jenniferaniston-thinking-hmmm-goodpoint-nodding-gif-12891049412228221012

[wide swan]

What if i told you guys Summer was scam? It actually isnt even a Season?

[finite zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-summer-time-summer-vacation-hello-there-hello-summer-gif-25945661

[blissful bloom]

Let's riot

https://tenor.com/view/riot-gif-22170733

[wide swan]

i prefer not to self destruct things that i like

[blissful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-overrated-house-of-cards-government-america-gif-5690168

At least make illuvials were sunscreen

[hasty grotto]

I'll only acept summer if there is a sexy oiled up semi naked female iluviatar 😉

[potent tulip]

What about a fludd

[vapid imp]

@potent tulip sorry to bother you, but is there something that should be looked into here or is this just the mircel of the decade

[potent tulip]

we will have to get a numbers guy to see whats up 😄

[runic glade]

As far as I know it makes sense cause these come from mega disks ‘rare illuvitar’ > 1250 power slot. So it probably rerolls illuvitars until a 1250 hits, and tier 2 stage 3 has the highest odds by far. That’s why we see so many lynxes from megas.
My rarity ranking is based on 1 random illuvitar - so standard d1sk not mega. I’ll probably be adjusting this soon to display both odds, just have to find the time.

[sick perch]

Thanks for the value updates. I feel a little better about the value of mah'mut. 🫣👏

[vapid imp]

already getting to complicated for me to follow 😄
if you guys that know a lot more about it then i do think its correct i trust that, different hit rates for different disks differently makes it a lot more comlicated
appricate the responds

[sick perch]

It would be nice if there was another person like you who would create a similar site for ow illuvials.

😌

[hazy juniper]

Different sort of rarity. I haven't checked the numbers, but Holos are 6x more likely in Mega D1sks. Meaning that non holo's appear far more frequently in Standard D1sks which could be skewing this since its a more popular product.

[potent tulip]

From @untold parcel !

[barren bobcat]

Bikini Fudd coming up

[frank pier]

https://tenor.com/view/grease-summer-loving-gif-10760298

[sick perch]

I hate lynxes. There is a lynx in megadisk, in a red cube, that is not holo and t2 BG. How?

If I bought from the market with the money I put into wave4, I would have been the first one a long time ago.

😦

Sad

[dull pilot]

i got this one today in megadisk 🤣

[sick perch]

red cube? 🤮

[dull pilot]

i hate lynxes too in megadisks

[dull pilot]

don´t know but maybe.. 1612 power 🤣

[haughty rivet]

Just be thankful you didnt hit this in an alpha mega worth 80$ lmao

Is this a bug?

[tepid geyser]

I think the red glow is 2400+ power or something very close to it. Many strong Lynx can fall into this.
Maybe up it to 2500 power minimum to reduce most of them. Any Lynx above that does kind of deserve the red glow.

[dull pilot]

i got a lynx with 2660 power and i´m very happy about it, but a 1600 power lynx in mega disks makes me sad and there are very many of them 😂

[dull pilot]

the risk with alpha mega disks is crazy

[sick perch]

I'll accept some low offers and buy an alpha mega disk for fun. I don't care about anything anymore, I just want to get out.

[haughty rivet]

The game is strong

[frank pier]

sent you a boat load of offers..feel free to accept till my eth is gone 😉
and good luck on the megas

[sick perch]

You are not shy. 🤪

What you offered is not half the floor price. It is a quarter of the floor price. I will accept whatever I find fair.

[frank pier]

https://tenor.com/view/shy-dog-dog-shy-dog-shoes-martian-shy-gif-10611534617383883284

[sick perch]

By the way, does the team have any ideas on how to get out of this hopeless situation? 🙂

there are almost no active players

the market is completely dead

I thought the weekly reward would help but unfortunately it didn't. There are some snipers on the market who want to get everything "for free" and some bots 🤷

I don't want to criticize the project, if possible I'll even help in any way I can, but I simply don't see the light at the end of the tunnel.

[quartz estuary]

🧐

[sick perch]

Are you here?

I wanted to write you a DM but I can't. 🤔😐

[smoky verge]

@warped junco would you be interested in selling your Holo Air Atippo?

i saw this one and i'm collecting em holo air atippo's

[frank pier]

@wide swan thanks for going hyper today, I think it's great and important to cover beyond from time to time in detail like you did so potential players can appreciate it. @nimble flame perhaps you can create a video going over some of what rich covered for the beyond ecosystem when the promo comes out and maybe share it on x and other nft groups, etc.

[warped junco]

Unfortunately no. It's got a high power that I need for that sleeve 😦

[smoky verge]

maybe after this wave? 🙏 only if you can keep it unbonded of course 🙂

[sick perch]

?

🤨

$160 trash

[smoky verge]

alpha wave 1s were painful. the droprates were low

[haughty rivet]

Whyd u get wave 1 🤣

[smoky verge]

droprates went up significantly in wave 2

[sick perch]

Make a casino where you we win.

🤮

🙂

[haughty rivet]

Wave 1 aint it

[sick perch]

I would rather pay there.

[haughty rivet]

But sometimes u hit 😉

[sick perch]

I'm happy for you 😅

alpha is the biggest bullshit

[haughty rivet]

My best wave 1 by far

[haughty rivet]

Name of the game

[sick perch]

A project is never so successful that someone pays for it separately

😉

[haughty rivet]

Hektor stop hate buying 🤣

[sick perch]

nice but just a picture. like my mah'mut. everyone needs eth. no one cares about anything

[sick perch]

Never 😅🤮

[haughty rivet]

I love my pictures

[sick perch]

DAO should give me at least 5 t5s3 accessories. I'm the only one spending money. Everyone else is just a sniper.

I would leave the project today and I wouldn't need any more money, just the amount I put in. but it's impossible

worse than the casino

[haughty rivet]

Ill buy that fern

[sick perch]

Ok

[vague void]

Just because at this moment things feel idle doesn’t mean there’s not meals being prepared in the kitchen

There are plenty people that feel affinity for this product

Hating on it because at this moment things aren’t crazy active doesn’t serve anyone…

Sometimes it’s good to take a break and kiss a tree

[meager garden]

Kiss a tree? I've heard touch grass, but that one is new to me 🤣

[vague void]

special way to get into nature 😄

[haughty rivet]

Ill kiss my alphas and sleep crying personally

[pseudo pagoda]

Are you giving that away ?

[haughty rivet]

For sure!

[pseudo pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-have-one-nick-birch-big-mouth-i-dont-have-any-i-have-nothing-gif-27149686

https://tenor.com/view/steve-urkel-family-matters-nerd-alert-geek-gif-14265266

https://tenor.com/view/lofi-sui-yeti-trade-trading-gif-16672248351130799009

[vapid imp]

if gauntlet manage to make it, i have no doubt we will see more interest in beyond.
but in general this cycle have been different since we been in QT and been dealing with macroeconomics.
personally i have no doubt web3 will be massive, but just like many other things we seen in crypto it takes time to mature
for me the bigger question is if we can stay on out feet for when the time comes

[runic glade]

added some features to illuvitar rarity. you can now see and sort by the 'pull chance' based on source d1sk used.
expanded rarest list from top 50 to top 100 and added a Rarity FAQ that should answer some questions people had.
I still kept absolute chance as the main 'rarity' metric

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/legend-snoop-dogg-great-ggn-double-g-news-network-gif-12414373

[haughty rivet]

appreciate u

[blissful bloom]

@barren bobcat can you tell me please in which currency should i save for the promo? Because i need to start doing it. In fuel or eth? Or it hasn't been decided yet? I hope it's fuel

[frank pier]

rogier seemed to imply that fuel would be used for promo "I don't see why not" but it be nice if they teased a time period and an answer in here about this..doesn't have to be a formal release statement, just a leak

[blissful bloom]

I dont even think it's a leak anymore. It's a financial decision

[frank pier]

what do you mean financial decision?

[potent tulip]

Fuel is fine

🙂

we not linked to an external partner for this

so all will be fuel

[blissful bloom]

I mean i have limited cash. Like savings. If i buy now eth, i wont be able to buy fuel when promo is live

[blissful bloom]

Thank you 🔥

[potent tulip]

welcome!

[frank pier]

yep save that fuel, and of course the vary dangerous stripe credit card option is there 😉

Actually all I'll used for wave 4 so I don't have to move eth through the imx labyrinth

also remember you can buy fuel crates with eth and they were giving about a 40% fuel bonus for a while..not sure what they are now

[blissful bloom]

Thank you, didn't knew about that

[frank pier]

just know it's a little counterintuitive to figure out how to open the crates and get the fuel

[serene python]

can also buy fuel with eth if there are no discount-crates left

[blissful bloom]

Oh, it didn't matter in the end? I feel dumb now

[serene python]

well i guess stripe is more convenient to pay than transfering eth onto passport

[frank pier]

always good to ask questions and glad you are excited about the summer lovin promo 🌞

[wide swan]

What about ILV?

https://tenor.com/view/looking-good-gif-21504526

[frank pier]

rather see ilv rewards converted to fuel and go back to treasury but if people want to use their outside ilv I'm fine with that

then that goes to treasury

Actually, I suppose either way ilv goes back to treasury lol

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-think-meme-intelligence-common-sense-gif-8946867

[wide swan]

It would essentially just be doing the same thing the rewards dash does, is converting ILV to fuel dynamically by ilv price

And yeah the treasury gets more ILV

Which then begs the question, do we sell fuel with ILV?

But then that would muddy rev share, I'm sure there would be some way to make it happen, just exclude ILV purchases from rev

Lol cmon man

Scammer outed himself 😆

To me of all ppl

[rich elm]

Nice update! Love the top 100 rarity. Still a little bit different then the illuvial masters one but i like it. I do think its weird that there is still no official rarity ranking from the Illuvium team. This should be included in a collectible nft project like this.

Top 3 pull chance from wave 1 👌

[rich elm]

Is there a reason for this? Last wave there was feedback about getting web3 partners but now there is no partners?

[rich elm]

Still need one of these for my slashin collection. To whoever owns this hook me up.

[potent tulip]

Dont know about web3 partners, we had a few options but across summer, none of the timelines seemed to match anymore for us/them and so we wanted to go with something else

[rich elm]

Ok. Seem weird to me to having no partners at the state Illuvium is in right now. just posted a picture in the beyond market place. We only have 100 new wallets since the start of wave 4. Market volume keeps decreasing each wave. Is there any plan whatsoever for this?

[alpine dew]

To me all of the partnerships have been a failure. GameStop made 100k plus off The community and then dipped, not sure how much Liquid made off us and for what? Do we see Liquid players pushing Illuvium Arena? Not sure how much G-Shock made off the partnership but at least we got watches but it didn't help bring in new beyond players. I love the idea of not bringing in a partner this wave and instead do something fun and keep all of our revenue.

[frank pier]

it be great to get to the point where they have to pay to be our promo partner 🙂

instead of us paying them for no real benefit

[rich elm]

Yeah i agree that this is better then a promotion partner that doesn't do anything but eating money. My question was more related to finding a partner that gives something back in return in terms of marketing.

[alpine dew]

I'm all for a partnership with a company like pudgy penguins that has a web3 customer base and where we don't share any profits

[frank pier]

and there is no reason we can't be doing more soft marketing...sharing on x. etc. pod casts and so on

do a funny viral video

people have to see things typically at least 3 times before it sticks or they even consider buying...we have to be willing to share beyond a lot more

that's why I liked Rich going into detail on Hype this week

[alpine dew]

No more sharing of profits from disc sales, if we can't find a partnership like that I love the idea of a summer vibe Illuvitar collection. I would actually be pretty excited for this! Just don't raise prices for discs

[frank pier]

actually, maybe even lower them a little or give a volume discount

I

would buy more at a lower price

and up the acc. curve for them also...no more clown noses

give 10% the avg acc. on a disk

I'd pay up for that

[haughty rivet]

THE EXTRACTION STOPS HERE

[meager garden]

https://tenor.com/view/its-time-to-change-the-game-time-for-change-game-changer-out-with-the-old-the-rock-gif-14250435

[tepid geyser]

Not to mention the full creative freedom the team now has. No partner to please.

[alpine dew]

I am starting to really like the idea of a lower priced in house Illuvium themed "partnership" discs $12. It would be cool to test out lower pricing too.

[frank pier]

man I'd buy a ton...I did the adr cause it was so cheap and fun to open stuff.

would destroy the resale market though...as it dis with illuvials 😉

[tepid geyser]

Not sure that would work out too well.
As the promo D1sks have the same pull rates as a mega D1sk with the addition of a promo illuvitar, why would anyone purchase a mega D1sk if you coud just get the promos for half price?

[alpine dew]

Good point

Could change the pull rate perhaps

Or do two promo illuvitars instead

[finite zealot]

Without a promo partner I would have preferred limited time accessory D1sks.
They could be inexpensive but encourage buying regular D1sks.

[alpine dew]

Summer themed Illuvitar sounds fun though

[finite zealot]

Yeah, have to see what they come up with.🙂

[frank pier]

be interesting to have $1 acc. disks only, same pull rates, just 3 acc. but be fun to buy a ton just to get some teen % acc.

lots we can do to be creative...could see promo disks be a little cheaper though since we don't have to share rev with a partner or have been acc. rates

[dull pilot]

@past tundra If you're interested, I'm selling it now https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/902468

[sharp sigil]

After opening 180 disks, this is what i got... Not the best luck but it is still ok i think...

[sharp sigil]

@runic glade , another suggestion if its easier to add tag for sleeved illuvitars similar to listed price tag.

[blissful bloom]

Do we get the promo blog this month, or next month?

[potent tulip]

Next!

Poll closes tomorrow, then we got to work hard to get it all sorted 😬🫠

Happy to read some positivity regarding the promo.. we'll try to make it as good as possible ofc ^^

And likely sees a few new features for beyond too

I personally also would like to move beyond.. waves and limiting promos and what not... but this needs to be discussed and planned with all of you first 😅

And im open to ideas, so feel free to share when u got any 👌

[tepid geyser]

Will you be making a post diving deeper into these desired changes also?

[potent tulip]

Can do! Will make sure we cover it in the prerelease blog too

[tepid geyser]

Nice! Will look forward to it 👍

[frank pier]

big thing for me is how shitty the acc. feel on disk openings. I would change the disk % so 10% is the top of the bell curve on acc. and the chance of a t5 acc is the same as a clown nose. You could also create a cheap acc. only disk for a buck or two and keep the old ratio for that. Or you could improve acc. rations in megas and promos to make them more attractive. Lots of options, you get the idea 🙂

[light epoch]

I think throwing in new acc would be great, like a T5 clown nose, which exactly the same shape, just difderent color (less work for team)

[frank pier]

maybe a rainbow or glitter one

[potent tulip]

Well one thing that is done tech wise is to make illuvitar specific acc possible - but not to get any hopes up, that is not something thats being worked on at this point. But its a cool string to pull for future work.

its there to make it work, but no assets or anything have been done this way yet

[sick perch]

It should never be like that. The ugliest accessory. The point of the T5 accessories is to make it as beautiful as possible. 😌

[serene python]

you saying clown nose is not beautiful?

[sick perch]

Yes. I said it's not beautiful 😄

[serene python]

https://tenor.com/view/super-saiyan-blue-vegito-dragon-ball-super-dbs-anime-final-kamehameha-gif-17808314

[potent tulip]

we should introduce a golden clownnose, 25% power boost

https://tenor.com/view/joey-joey-tribbian-funny-stare-wink-gif-20597720

[sick perch]

I wouldn't put a good illuvitar on it even if it gave a 30% power boost 🤪

but the gold glasses would be very sick

or a diamond piercing, diamond ring

[potent tulip]

😄 theres so much cool stuff to do thats not in the wardrobe right now.. and go with something illuvitar only 😛

[keen forum]

In my opinion, we could have weekly missions with points that can only be converted into fuel, and each week the Illuvitars to find change. This way, opening Mega Disks becomes more interesting and the community a bit more active

[potent tulip]

i have a whole design ready - but need time and resources to get it through - and eventually players support 😉

[keen forum]

Thanks for the answer, If I understood correctly, the wave durations might be extended — in my opinion that’s better, because there’s more time to open disks, find rare Illuvitars, and the final pot is bigger

[potent tulip]

nope afaik stuff , atleast for the first 5 waves to be the 3 months as always, i thin kthats a 'made up rule' we will stick to. But after that , imo the gloves should come off 😂 and we just do whatever is best and most fun

[quartz estuary]

Hi Rogier, can you tell me if the team is considering burning the Iluvitars, and also if a separate Beyond card battle game is possible in the distant future?@potent tulip

[potent tulip]

Part of the design i have as mentioned above will indeed use quite a lot of mechanics, even 'burning' to spice play up quite a bit

Using little mini games, scavanger hunt s and a shope where you're able to trade things/exchange if you have the thing that the drone wnats ;D 🙂

[sharp sigil]

@potent tulip , Can we do anything for burning mechanism? Like burn some illuvitars to get fuel or something?

There are thousands of t0s seating there and you can't do anything for it. I wish we could burn them and get ⛽.

[frank pier]

or clown noses

[sharp sigil]

It would be some kind of rules calculation which i think would be little difficult to come up with but not hard to implement i believe. Like ewch tier stage accessories would give some fixed fuel and similarly different fuel count for each tier and stage. It would be little difficult for illuvitars because of various factors like accessories, background , tier and stages but it stills achievable

I would love to get rid of those all unwanted illuvitars/ accessories and convert them to fuel so that i can use it efficiently. Currently, anyway we dont see much movement in ETH and not much new money coming in so it would be positive to bring burn mechanism so people would have fuel to purchase things and keep engaging

[frank pier]

it would also firm up the floor..or non-existent floor as trades rarely happen there 😉

and people would buy the stuff selling for a penny to burn

[urban stratus]

at first i thought jeah of course. but then i thought... how much fuel is a unwanted illu worth?

also it would mean less money spent on fuel.

[frank pier]

it wouldn't have to be much to motivate burning and more activity would be good

[urban stratus]

jeah but what is not much? lets say how much fuel do you get for a clown nose?

[tepid geyser]

While I like the idea of implementing a burning mechanism, i'm not so sure about receiving FUEL in return.
Should we be expecting the DAO to buy all of our unwanted junk, because that's essentially what would be happening.

With everyone receiving FUEL and purchasing more D1sks (for free), would this not cause more dilution, which would actually lower the floor of higher quality illuvitars, the likes of which are essential for making D1sks worthwhile to open. Which I believe we have already passed the tipping point.
We need to end the free D1sks, that's what will help support floors and drive demand due to scarcity. People will be forced to either open D1sks or be prepared to pay more aftermarket.

I say let's burn but not for FUEL.

[urban stratus]

burn 5 dupes to get 1 with better bg. something like that?

i agree about the free disks btw

[tepid geyser]

Tough, not really because if someone already owned one with the better bg and new ones were being minted form burns, existing people are getting diluted and devalued. We can't really have anyone being negatively impacted by it.
I'm thinking a new mechanic entirely really, or maybe have it feeding onto one of the new mechanics Rogier touched upon. Obviously we have no idea what these are yet. I just think there will likely be a more fun and fair way to implement burning without the need for FUEL.

[urban stratus]

jeah makes sense.

[vague void]

I feel all burning in illuvium ecosystem should go to XP

XP would be like a 'dust' or something that you can apply to illuvials for leveling at the player's discretion

This would reinforce illuvials as the core of the illuvium universe

And any illuvium nft would be eligible for burning and weighted based on certain criteria

[tepid geyser]

I like that idea 👍

Ties in both games.

[urban stratus]

right now its only possible to level illuvials in overworld right?

[haughty rivet]

Or a burning leaderboard 👀

lol jk

Xp sound good

[pseudo pagoda]

team rocket !!

[sharp sigil]

I was thinking to have stronger illuvitars created from burning but then its controversial to do as it affects the rarity of stronger illuvitars or accessories so always safe to give something that doesn't affect beyond directly and user can use it to buy from market or DAO

[potent tulip]

My design introduces a seperate currency/point for doing certain activities that still count towards your overall score.

[potent tulip]

You can then choose to keep them as it ups your score, or spend them to improve ur game/album

Or buy special things

[urban pawn]

burn illuvitar or accessory, you get certain amount of xp. certain amount of xp gets you certain illuvitar (common, holo, gold...diamond 🙂 ); or you could buy it with that xp - if we want that xp to be used in other games 2.

create a slots in album where you can sleeve only those illuvitars - something like album keepers slots.

this doesn't hurt any1, and we can burn some of the supply. not sure how hard would be to implement thou.

[vapid imp]

do illuvials even matter? dont think they are used

[vague void]

The two mmo game designers have stated the intention to make illuvials central to the illuvium ecosystem... really, everything should revolve around illuvials

[vapid imp]

yea should, to me illuvials seem like land 2.0 and dont see how to implement it in a meaning full way, also i mainly play pvp games so probly wont play the other thing

dont see many burning for xp

[vague void]

Yet to be seen how they formulate illuvial centralization... but I don't doubt that's the plan. And I'd absolutely burn for xp

[vapid imp]

i like the upgrade ide, but insted of getting upgraded illuvitars, maybe burn them for accessories or bonus points for cheaper fuel etc the possibilitys is many but i think it would be smart to look out and see what others have done(in web2)

[sick perch]

The problem is that everyone looks after their own interests and would use the fuel burning for something else. Xp also only benefits those who don't have a level 60 illuvial. Some people who spent a lot of money and time in Ow would definitely not be happy with the Xp. Then the value of the current level 60 illuvials would be worthless.

The market is not weak because of free disks. I think megadisks still costs a lot compared to the current token price. The biggest problem is that the supply is greater than the demand. And I don't think it's because of the few free disks

Of course free disks don't help either but DAO needs to somehow motivate those people who want to buy disks. Even so 80% of the Beyond players are just snipers who only look at the market and good opportunities

[blissful bloom]

Burning is always a great idea.
Selling nfts may take awhile and is alot of listing and pricing work.
I always encouraged burning lots of items for fewer steonger ones.
Instead of selling 100 illuvitars, now i can burn them all for one 50% acc and i can sell only one item which is easier to manage.
And this is great because it encourages me to buy as many illuvitars i want without stressing knowing i have a quick liquidity plan.

[sick perch]

I think the special accessory is a good idea. And we should get the points depending on what we burn. If we burn a doka we should get very few points, if we burn a vermilliare we should get more points. And if we reach x points we will get the special accessory

[potent tulip]

I think just boring tons for 1 acc is a boring solution and is too simple, and i think it brakes the project for new people. So my design is quite a bit different than just burning loads

[pseudo pagoda]

Over world task could panout to beyond pvp perks combat experience equals out to percent draw increase some times lil things sometimes the little things make the main course more enjoyable .when I go hiking I like to see the water flow I like to see the sunshine I like to feel the Wind Breeze!

[vague void]

I can get that… but are u telling me u have 205 illuvials at level 60?

And if u do congrats

I know other players, especially new players won’t… and level 60 would have more value on the market.

I look at it like clash royale… their creatures go up to level 15… I been playing g that game for almost two years a d still don’t have all creatures maxed

[sick perch]

I don't have that many bro. I have about 20-30. In essence, this could be a solution, but then we have to take into account how much xp each illuvial gives. If this come true, I hope Rai won't give as much xp as Rhamphyre. Because then the market will be full of level 60 illuvials. We can get thousands of illuvials "for free" on the market.

[vague void]

ofc that's why I mentioned weighted nft burns... obvs a t5 illuvitar or illuvial will give more xp than a t1 or t0

same with accessories

or any illuvium nft

all have weights

[sick perch]

that would be correct 👌

[blissful bloom]

That was used only for example. I dont even bond
Can't wait to see what you're cooking 💪

[frank pier]

and I would guess there are a number of beyond players who don't care about illuvials at all, and might never. Beyond does not have to be intertwined with arena to succeed. Give it a fun little card game and that will be enough and just make the illuvitars special and rare and the burning mechanism help this and yes be fun or get something from doing it. And yes, make OW like an amazing hike...not just a hunt but like the best mushroom trip ever, and then people will do it just to experience a new world. And then tft, mmo will have their own people, assuming we make it really fun and find a way to monetize that.

[keen forum]

You could also create a PvE mode where you use 5 or 6 Illuvials each week to fight a boss. The illuvitars would get buffs from their Illuvitars, and the goal would be to score as many points as possible. This way, even players who don’t usually play in the Arena or with Illuvials can learn how to play, and the gameplay would be simple and accessible

[potent tulip]

Yeah i think its something we should avoid in design - creating dependencies on other games.. link em up where its fun and make sense, but never make it essential. (as good we can.)

[vague void]

however it goes... burn is def desired.

[young tide]

Burn for illuvials exp 👌🏼

[sick perch]

Do litr-a-cola and Hyperhunter use discord? 🤔

[light epoch]

Yes

At least litr a cola has a convo with alexa

Not sure bout hypehunter though

[sick perch]

I wasn't surprised by this 😄

[sick perch]

I think he has a different name here than in the game

[sharp sigil]

Anyone faced situation where you bought fuel but it didn't appear? How can i verify?

Scammer

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[sharp sigil]

@wide swan @past tundra ?

Ticket raised . Hopefully it get addressed soon

[vapid imp]

only seen it with fuel creates, but a refresh fixed it in that case

[sharp sigil]

Unfortunately, i couldn't see it after refreshing

[night basalt]

rised to the team, will update you thru the ticket when we have some info 🫡

[sick perch]

F5

[sharp sigil]

Its not refresh issue as i am not getting fuel for that particular purchase but later purchase went well

[sick perch]

then I don't know. I hope it gets resolved as soon as possible 🤞😌

[potent tulip]

found an old d1sk in the basement

[quartz estuary]

Hi Roger, in season 5 we need to address the issue of increasing rewards, unfortunately such rewards will not add new users, hoping for the ILV token to be $200-300 is not very promising, if this is not done in season 5, we will be competing with even fewer people. What is your opinion on this?@potent tulip

[potent tulip]

Rise the token price!

;D

[quartz estuary]

And another question: yesterday this indicator was 1910-1920 or something like that, and today it is lower, what is this connected with?

[potent tulip]

not sure, might be dynamic price indicator, does the i tell you anything?

[quartz estuary]

I would be happy, but I think it's almost impossible (if there is a jump, the maximum we can expect is 60-70)

[quartz estuary]

It should only move in one direction dynamically or not but definitely not in reverse(

What will definitely boost the token and Beyond is a merger with another game where the Iluvitars will be used as playing cards, or if the team develops such a game themselves.@potent tulip

[potent tulip]

in terms of this - yes.. tokenprice is our bane here.
We first had 3 months play - then rewards.. but then we noticed people wanted to try and spread it out weekly just like the normal board with 1 chunk at the end , to add more movement to the leaderboards.

I think is the right direction..
I think boasting pricepool isn't perse the best thing even - making the game easier to get into, having more movement created through other means will at least entice people to be more active and move things.

That's my goals for beyond in near future.

[frank pier]

also can you get it so old offers are automatically taken out of your offers area. There are still some for items I no longer own, or even was bonded and no longer "exists" in form listed. Be nice to clean that up, and also have illuvidex pull up proper illuvitar. For instance ace or sear require searcing for type instead of being able to just type in name to see what is listed, and there are a few more like this also.

[potent tulip]

yeh might be a bug

[quartz estuary]

So weekly rewards are a good idea, but we have a more global problem: the movement is only for the first 25 places, that is, there are a few people, and we need hundreds so that the top 100 is a good position and strong, while we have what we have.

Maybe collaboration is an option for Beyond, I think The Battle of Iluvitar Beyond will be a cool thing similar to the game Splinterlands, I understand that the team doesn't need another game even with simple mechanics right now because there's a lot of work, but I'm convinced that if it's made mandatory with the ability to play on Android and iOS, it will tear apart users who love this genre of game.@potent tulip

The game will be simple and millions will play it

[potent tulip]

yeah few things!

1 - IB as it is can still develop quite a bit further to where it started.
becoming a more and more gamified collection game. Think in terms of adding a few more ways to score points, by doing certain actions in the game itself. These are things to spice up the current version of IB.

2- The assets we've created over the years could also be used in a card game. That would utilize illuvitars in some way shape or form.

This would be something added besides illuvium beyond imo. But this is a much heavier lift, and for the time being not a goal we can pursue.
We already have many projects to 'upkeep' and develop as we go currently.

we internally started (scribbled) on a design for a card/duel game with beyond assets - but its parked for the time being 🙂

[quartz estuary]

Glad to hear that. 🤝

[languid star]

Would love a card game. Maybe similar to Pokemon Pocket on mobile.

[wide swan]

Maybe my next project to build beyond mobile app?

[potent tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hiddleston-loki-this-guy-gif-10466991

[meager garden]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-gif-18336789254182423315

[sick dock]

In That case could be like forge skins in league of légendd , you put 3 of your bad illuvitars and you make a opening of a illuvitar from the wave . But with wayyyyyy difficult ratios .
Or burnit to get some rewards but not fuel i agree

[sick dock]

Maybe similar to Yu gi oh and Magic the gathering and Hearthstone baba 🏴‍☠️👁️‍🗨️ Pokémon its Little bit borring At the end by turns

That way we have spells instants and egypcian buffs for having the best NFT

[vapid imp]

CS dos something similar but think its 5, seem like this how the big boys do it

[sharp sigil]

Can someone help in escalation the issue for me? I can see one comment on the ticket but no further updates after it. @wide swan ?

[night basalt]

devs are still checking 🙏 (actively) just talked with one, he is checking your tansactions right now etc

[sharp sigil]

Thanks @night basalt

[light epoch]

or just duplicated the whole set with a layer of fire/burned. imma call them Hell
If you burn, you can get a disk containing the illuvitar burned with percentage like
Burn 5 T0 -> 10% to get tier 1 Hell Illuvitar
Burn 5 T1 -> 10% to get tier 2 Hell Illuvitar
etc... etc...

so if you burn 5 tier 5 stage 1 Ill , you can get back 1 Tier 5 Illuvitar (with chance of them being Holo or stage 3)

[sharp sigil]

This is beautiful 🤩

[light epoch]

Agreed

[sick dock]

Ye but chance 0,0001%

[light epoch]

So maybe add an extra album called Reforged/Underworld/Reborn that can only be filled with Illuvitar from burn mechanic. People will burn to fill the album. Lowering the unused Illuvitar floating around.

OR JUST LET US BURN LYNX, that all we asking, them fake Orange/Red Illuvitar

[languid star]

I’d be up for any of those. Pokemon tcg seems simple enough for anyone to understand and just into it, but the best players can still rise to the top.

[keen forum]

I m competitive in this game, with beyond Isn t possibile create something like that

But there are a lot of other mini game that can will be develop

Maybe more like pokemon TCG

[vague void]

So many possibilities 😄

---

So am I understanding right? No promo partner this wave? we just gonna have summer themed promo?

[gusty cliff]

Can't believe we're still dreaming of beyond games after so many years

[frank pier]

yep we are our own promo partner 😉

hope the rewards are good to get people buying disks

[cerulean quartz]

Wow and alpha !

[cerulean quartz]

no way dude like 250 in an altcoin season

[cerulean quartz]

a card game is still coming damn its going to be awesome

[cerulean quartz]

cannot wait for a card game

[sick perch]

yours?

[keen forum]

I hope so to be realistic, even a simple mini-game would be perfectly fine

[cerulean quartz]

One I will bond tomorrow

[cerulean quartz]

It will come fir sure

[sick perch]

I'm interested in one of your accessories. I sent a friend request.

[pseudo pagoda]

I was hoping for Team Rocket

[night basalt]

got an info that the Fuel was credited to your account lats nigh sorry it took it so long

[sharp sigil]

Yea all fixed and appreciate your help here in fixing the issue this quick 🙏

[night basalt]

99.999% was one of out top secret best of a kind dev, he even reached out before the task was assigned to him when he saw your post asking if it was reported internally already and he jumped on it right away

[latent willow]

Make Illuvialmaster great again 😖

[potent tulip]

Sorry - to get back to a question earlier (that i cant find right now.) about a bit of fluctuations on the Wave Prizepool.

Turns out this is because of a process that converts fuel to ETH, to then update the price pool - this is a process that causes this fluctuation - and theres not that much to do about it. if i understood correctly.
@bold nova can shed some extra light on this if he wants.

A solution for a next leaderboard is to tie Prizepool growth to no# of d1sks sold , that would get rid of variability.
But thats a decision we as players/makers should take together before the next leaderboard opens up 🙂

[sick perch]

I thought there would be more activity because of the weekly rewards, but it's not like wave 3. What happened to the people? 😦

I hope the bull market comes soon and it will generate more activity.

The golden cross appeared on the eth chart, which gives reason for optimism

[gusty cliff]

well there's not much brought on by the team either. I remember we had way more streams during wave 3

there's also no battleinthebeyond this time, which is very unfortunate imo. It's so basic and yet the lizards could not deliver on it. In the meantime their project was pumped and tokenized during the last wave. Looks bad

[sick perch]

I don't even buy any more disks because it's impossible to sell the extra illuvitars.

[gusty cliff]

sentiment in general is bad. Postponing things forever as we've seen during the last years. The rewards shouldn't be the reason to play beyond but the current $ILV price does not really help.

[sick perch]

You are absolutely right about this. as long as the ilv value is this low we should get a lot more tokens. Slowly even a real estate investment will return the investment faster than the reward

[frank pier]

I have a ticket a few weeks old for an illuvitar I have that says listed that I can't unlist so therefore can't bond...I had this issue before and it never got resolved. Can we fix this, and also some of the illuvidex search flaws, such as not being able to type sear or ace in to buy an illuvitar on the illuvidex? you have to go through the search process of finding the type of illuvitar it is and then find the name vs just type it in like all the others.

[sick perch]

Does anyone know Frost456321? And does he use discord?

[sick perch]

• artace

[night basalt]

the Illuvidex issues are on devs list, but I assume its currently low priority list
the issue with asset appearing as listed, can you give me your ticket number, I believe I asked internally today for an update on this one

[frank pier]

looks like I deleted it thinking I would get an updated email but the illuvitar number is 402264

And still can't unlist today

and no updates

[frank pier]

and the fliish also

[vague void]

I don't think sentiment is bad for illuvitars... From what I can tell the community enjoys beyond a lot!
Sentiment is bad overall for altcoins/web3 gaming tho, will agree with that. There just aren't many catalysts for engagement right now in Beyond... especially with earlier waves. Token price is low and rewards don't have the same ooomf. Not having a legit promo partner this wave isn't ideal, but it is what it is.

Def looking forward to those W4 LB illuvitars tho at the end

[potent tulip]

Dont be dissapointed, this promo is going to give us some of the best to date 🤣🤣🤣😎

[frank pier]

yeah you are not limited by the promo partner choosing...you have free reign, or rain, or sun, or

[blissful bloom]

Can we know at least what the partner was supposed to be? 😬

[vague void]

That's true yo... am curious how they will look (:

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-zip-it-the-office-gif-11853129

[blissful bloom]

What if it was "buy 20 promo disks and get a lambo"
And now we get "buy 20 promo disks and get a sunscreen" 🧴

[frank pier]

a sunscreen that never appears to do anything? 😉

[blissful bloom]

@hazy juniper you said you knew who was the partner 👀
Can you make a legendary move and tell us?

[vague void]

not sure that's a good idea... if they intend to be a partner in the future

[frank pier]

and they might be...apparently the firm brokering the deal got bougth which is why it was scrubbed. But honestly, as beyond is now we don't really need a big time partner till we have the games, players, volume to support and celebrate it.

[vague void]

word yo

[frank pier]

ps noticed how we don't get monthly income/expense statements anymore? Probably good because it's probably bad.....need to stop tariffs and wars and get crypto flying again so we can fund raise and get people spending money

[vague void]

Won't deny it's crazy times...

[frank pier]

the actual crypto news is incredibly good, esp. in the US (legislation, adoption, etc.) , and I'm confident in my 3-5 year outlook on crypto...the trouble is Illuvium can't last 3-5 years without a major raise, so fingers crossed

[potent tulip]

Hehe i dont think we legally can

[potent tulip]

I think it will come,, its alright, u can still track everything on chain

[blissful bloom]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-sparrow-smiles-johnny-depp-gif-3829357382943597812

[wide swan]

I'll ping the guys again, there was some personal health related stuff going on so i know it took more time but ill see where its at

[sharp sigil]

I dont see finalboss anymore... What happened to it Alexa?

[hazy juniper]

Lmao no way

[hazy juniper]

It was actually intended to be quarterly. Which would mean we get one end of June

[hazy juniper]

Keeping in mind that partner wasn't full on cancelled or anything. Definitely still on the table, just delayed.

If it were cancelled Kieran might say what it was idk, but it's not.

[tepid geyser]

It’ll be back don’t worry

[sharp sigil]

I thought once that i have a chance to stay at top 10 on legacy LB and top 3 in wave 4 but my hope will not last long 😂.

[tepid geyser]

🫣 Sorry about that.
I did notice that you climbed up a bit recently. Very close to top 10 💪

[frank pier]

I can not believe how far you have climbed up again after selling so much off!

[sharp sigil]

Wave 4 investment

[haughty rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/bipolar-i-feel-fine-fine-flower-depressed-gif-5678784

[sick perch]

Then in the next wave we have to invest differently. We don't have to buy disks for a lot of money, but from the beginning of the wave we have to look at the market like some people. ☝️ We have to collect all the valuable illuvitars "cheaply". This is how we can be ahead in the leaderboard 😉

[sharp sigil]

@frank pier is really good at doing this 😊

[sick perch]

many top players do this 🙂

Alexa,finalBoss 😁

[frank pier]

and of course it provides liquidity for those who love opening disks

I just get bummed when I hit clown noses and lynxes like 8 disk openings in a row

[sick perch]

So you don't need to open disks. If you get valuable stuff and don't want to keep it, you can't sell it for what it's worth. Rather give some money to the gamblers and they will find you the good stuffs 🙂

so you don't spend half as much

[light epoch]

give us money to gamble plz

[vague void]

i think that's what the rewards are for 😅

[blissful bloom]

A superhero promo theme would be cool

[night basalt]

hey, sorry for a delay, I am waiting for an update, they will try to update the state of this asset, but also could you try to bond it from the Beyond UI directly, not from the asset page? There is no check there for the listing.
https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/beyond/bond

[sick perch]

Nice BG. Would have been even better if it was rare expression 😬

[sharp sigil]

@runic glade , thanks for adding this

[frank pier]

yep, wierd but it worked 😉
nice to know a new trick

[night basalt]

glad it worked ( I will remove the request of the asset refresh)

[haughty rivet]

What does it mean

Ohhh whats in ur album, got it

Sickk

[sharp sigil]

I asked and he did it. Its really useful feature to have

[haughty rivet]

Dope

Torsk the goat

[frank pier]

remember all to send he some illuvitars at address at top of his page

[frank pier]

Thanks for following through Peter

[runic glade]

welcome, thanks for the suggestion!

[sharp sigil]

Thanks to you 🙏

[haughty rivet]

Another suggestion ive thought about is a illuvitar creator, just to test numbers like a maxed out illuvitar ect

I know we have the id number one with certain accessories

But making an illuvitar would be cool, like testing an alpha rhamphyre rare exp with t5s3 bg

[runic glade]

can't create illuvitars, those are on the illuvium backend. i can only use what's already been minted as a base

[haughty rivet]

Nono not create

Simulate

[runic glade]

without a picture then? just the numbers?

[wide swan]

We always wanted to make a “playground” or dressing room, so yeah you could test what your points for bonding would be

And what your illuvitar looked like if you didn’t have the accessory you could try it on before you buy it

[tepid geyser]

This feature already exists no?

Workshop & Preview