🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[hazy juniper]

Nope got no clue 🤣🤣. Like what's a vercel?

[obsidian dune]

basically a cloud for deploying your frontend applications

something like, but not really, a server... so it had problems, and I guess Illuvium is using vercel to deploy illuviary so illuviary had problems

[meager garden]

the standard d1sk price in wave 2 was 0.003eth and the mega d1sk 0.0175 eth?

can some1 confirm me this pls

[astral ermine]

illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app

[obsidian dune]

0.01801

[bleak crown]

can i ban banshee from sending me illuvitar offers XD

i dont need 200 offers of 8 cents each i promise you dont need to waste your time doing it for me

[meager garden]

you never know @bleak crown

desperate times call for desperate measures

[urban stratus]

i only have 25 8 centers from banshee 🥲

offer systems should have some fixes but its Immutable X not illuvium that needs to do it hehe

[bleak crown]

ahaha i really dont mind i just find it funny

[urban stratus]

i dont mind aswell just could be much better

also theres some bugs in there

[bleak crown]

holy F just read about the guy who got hacked for 13 lands back in november. trying to backtrack the wallets rn. looks like the guy who hacked him is already a multi millionare? sheesh. absolutely terrifying. did anything get solved? if guy sends to exchanges the police might be able to do somethin

[urban stratus]

wtf

can i read about that?

[bleak crown]

hold on ill link

i suck at 2020ing idk how to do it

but search this

lots of messages on that day about it

[urban stratus]

what that recent?

[bleak crown]

2 months ago yeah. i feel horrible for him/her. people are horrible

[urban stratus]

its very hard to hack a wallet

[bleak crown]

from what im reading he left the seed phrase on a notepad on his laptop

by hack i mean compromised

[urban stratus]

megaratty has a point

ah jeah carefull with that stuff hehe

[bleak crown]

you think that could really be it? my honest guess, the notepad got sent to the cloud. heard about that too many times. i dont know though 😦

if it was a mac, then 100%

[urban stratus]

hard to guess i dont use cloud backups

except for pictures and stuff

[bleak crown]

me neither, i think they're a major security concern for people who dont even use crypto

[urban stratus]

but important things i keep analog on paper or in my brain lol

exactly

[bleak crown]

been tempted to just remember by brain but what if i go into a coma and get memory loss lol

[urban stratus]

hehe

passwords brain

[bleak crown]

might need to disect me for those keys

[urban stratus]

keyphrases next to the beretta 92x 😉

[bleak crown]

lmaoo

touch the walleta get the baretta

sorry ill stop

[urban stratus]

lol

i like it though

[bleak crown]

https://tenor.com/view/hahaha-dogo-smile-cute-gif-16039989

[urban stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/ray-liotta-laughing-happy-lol-gif-15802525

[bleak crown]

also good trading with u sir over the last week

[meager garden]

I can vouch for @urban stratus as well.

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[cerulean quartz]

hey there, when are we suppised to get our rewards dropped for the leaderboard, Iunderstood it was every wednesday but I have got nothing yet ?

[alpine dew]

you should have gotten yours, I got mine

[cerulean quartz]

got nothing

do i open a ticket ?

[alpine dew]

that is a good start

[cerulean quartz]

I assuem its dropped in same wallet as the one on the leaderboard ?

[alpine dew]

@wide swan rewards went out right?

[wide swan]

#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814318329430540298/1138628425578467388/PolarBear-Money.gif

[cerulean quartz]

ah so what day is snapshot taken every week ?

I thought it was the day before drop

is it a week before drop ?

thanks

@alpine dew so a rewards based on a week in arrears ? So screen shot taken yesterday will be sent next wednesday ?

[alpine dew]

yes that how i believe it to work

[alpine dew]

not 100% sure though

[meager garden]

another idea, this time regarding individual stretch goals
#1197418202196619344 message

this is the last one for my holistic view on how to Make Beyond great again!

Please give them all a read and share your opinions. I ask of you to look at these ideas as a whole, as every change connects with one another

[dire shuttle]

Hey Rich any chance of also displaying who made this weeks snapshot I'm not sure If I made it the top 100 there was some jostling of positions. Is it something that can be done weekly or do we need to wait to find out

[dire shuttle]

Sorry I mean the snap shot you took today for next week distribution.

[wide swan]

Yeah just try to avoid double posting and confusing ppl about it

[meager garden]

guys are you sleeping? who doesn't want more ILV rewards for beyond??
go smash that like on @minor ruin proposal, 5 thumbs up missing
#1196987941717815296 message

[meager garden]

I've crunched the numbers for the most controversial idea of the alpha sale restructure, give it a read:
#1196865968769601627 message
I've also made a poll there, I ask you all to please read it and cast your vote. This is very important for the future of the Beyond project we all love and care, ty

[keen forum]

I don’t understand this rush for wave 3 before the main launch of the game

Anyway there will be also the dark holo version in beyond for the next wave ?

[mossy turtle]

I have not heard anything about this, and i dont think so
"dark" version of something was refered to some time ago, but that was supposed to be in set 2 and forward like a placeholder for people to be able to complete collections, but perhaps not having points for leaderboard or gaining access to account bound rewards, but im not certain about that

[keen forum]

Ah ok Many thanks for the answer i saw the dark version in the leak channel and it s very nice

I wanna have 1 of this in the album 🤣🤣

Specially for the eyes

[urban pawn]

i don't remember reading smth like that. Those dark holos should be illuvials - only for Ow/arena

[meager garden]

it does make sense for it to be only for illuvials, since the dark holo glow that covers it moves around

[meager garden]

you've thrown this out twice now today. The team as said alot of things in the past and then they didn't come to fruition. and I sure hope this one doesn't come as well, because I just find it very lackluster to just recycle already existing assets and simply painting them with a different colour, like a dark atlas for example or a pink rhamphyre.

[mossy turtle]

I think it was a relevant answer

[barren bobcat]

No dark holo stuff in the works atm for Illuvitars!

This one is pretty dark though

[frank pier]

what wave it that in?

[pine crag]

Shit I think this is just the most beatiful Illuvitar I have seen until now.

I need it!

[astral ermine]

@hazy juniper

[fathom lintel]

I think you can count on this one to be true. It would be an insane amount of work to create a completely new set of illuvials every time. Aaron said new sets will contain some completely new illuvials but also different versions of existing illuvials. These will not be "placeholders" though, but completely new units with new abilities. For example, there could be an "ice" rhamphyre with frost ability, which would fit into the pterodactyl album in place of the current rhamphyre, but not in the set 1 slot, since it will be a set 2 unit. They would still need to be balanced for arena but a lot of time could be saved on modelling and rendering them.

[meager garden]

well I hope not, unless there's lore behind it to support that they come from a parallel reality

I mean there's this channel
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1066832604550139956
and we still need to recycle assets?

[fathom lintel]

I don't think its about lack of inspiration, its about workload. Look at how long they have been working on the current set, and they are still not done with everything. Would you want a large team to work 2 years on new sets every time? Or would you want some of those team members to work on new illuvium games instead?

[meager garden]

I get your point I really do. If you ask me yes I would. What I want is for the illuvium studio to keep growing and being able to release a NEW set every 2-3 years consistently while still improving and creating other games. If this is feasible? Hardly, but I'm a dreamer.

I would just add that not every set has to have as many illuvials as this one. They should do 1 big set, then 1 mini set. Then another big set and a mini set. It keeps things fresh and doesn't take as much workload.

Why do I think mini sets are important: When we're nearing the end of one set and the capture rate for the majority of the rarer illuvials is very low you'll be constantly encountering atlas, archies, lynxes, etc... That is the time to bring a mini set to help bridge the gap between sets and keep the wheel spinning. I find these much more interesting than just recycling existing assets...

And all this stuff I'm saying it's not from my head but from proved concepts other games have done.

Also, just came to mind. The mini sets are very good to balance/shake the meta 😉

[meager garden]

And I can understand the reasoning for this recycling of assets, so you give players the chance to have the rhamphyre skin from set 2 at a 10x lower price. This to me is very debatable. Do we want to give everything to everyone or do we want to maintain status and exclusivity?

It's a game choice that needs to be made

[keen forum]

What do you mean by recycling assets?

[meager garden]

"ice" rhamphyre

like @fathom lintel said for example

dark atlas

etc

IMO when everyone has a "ice" rhamphyre skin the original skin means nothing

just food for thought

[keen forum]

I think it's not possible to have the Dark Holo version of the Illuviatars but only Illuvials

[meager garden]

yes Dan just confirmed that today

and when I said dark atlas I didn't meant dark holo

was literally saying a black atlas

[keen forum]

Ah ok sorry I don't speak English very well, so the dark version is also in Beyond?

[meager garden]

yes that was the point. For example in set 2 comes a black atlas that can go into the axolotl line but can't go to the set 1 sleeve

[keen forum]

However, many will not collect Beyond for the leaderboard forThe barrier to entry, if this recycling stimulates the demand for skins is not a problem for me

[meager garden]

ofc... Let's get this straight... The beyond leaderboard is for the whales.

[keen forum]

thanks for the answer, If the next Atlas doesn't fill the old slot in my opinion it's a good idea

[meager garden]

the skins and album collection is for every player

[keen forum]

i m not agree with it i m 20 and i m not a whales

now 28 sorry without bond it, but with 4/5 k you can get it

[meager garden]

What I meant is you have to invest 4 real in it

casual players don't invest thousands into a game. Let alone on one with nfts at the current market conditions/market sentiment

Maybe I'm in the minority here, just showing my point of view.

[keen forum]

You do very well better to have many ideas instead of none, I agree also for this I think it is better to launch the Wave 3 together with the main game At now without the rewards in game you only have the leaderboard and the prices drop

If a casual player in the future wants the skin paying 10 times less that's fine, the important thing is that they want it

Then surely a separate leaderboard for each wave is a great incentive

[meager garden]

doesn't this just devalue the original skin?

If the player reaaaly wants the skin than he pays the 10x price

[keen forum]

Yes, how much it would be have a ophisto skin ?

If I remember right you need to have all the 3 expression to unlock the skin

[meager garden]

if that is the case than there will only be 14 ophisto skins available

[keen forum]

Exactly, so if versions come out that cost less but unlock the skin it's nice for the user experience, and if I had all 3 Ophistos I'd agree, the important thing is that it doesn't fill old slots for the leaderboard

Unfortunately in my case anyway I have zero lol

[meager garden]

the sad part about that is you'll just be devaluing your ophistos

and I think that's a mistake we shouldn't do in order to not punish early supporters of the game

what is rare it's rare

don't trivialize it

so that everyone has one

that's just bad game design

IMO

[keen forum]

We should ask at these 14 ppl with the skin what they think about it

[meager garden]

oh I can bet what the awnser will be

but I think I've said enough

[serene python]

Wait, what?
You can get an ophisto skin if you have all 3 expressions of it?

[keen forum]

I read it time ago, but I dont know if it s still valid

Maybe not the skin but different in game reward

[meager garden]

we don't know for sure, it will probably have degrees to it

[dapper sky]

Can you get holo illuvial in standard disk pack?

[meager garden]

maybe 1 illuvitar gives you the emote, the 3 expression line the drone skin and the whole stages the ranger

[serene python]

Well... Let it rain skins! 😂

[meager garden]

this is pure speculation on my part

[serene python]

I wouldn't be surprised

[fathom lintel]

There is no way we get skins for having all 3 expressions, I think the guys are using "skin" very loosely here. From the leaks it looks like we will get an account bound emote for having a full line in the album, that is very far from a skin.

[serene python]

Where you have seen those leaks?
Must have missed them

[fathom lintel]

Quite a while ago there were emotes for the GS illuvitars in the leaks channel. The only sense these make is to be a reward for having the full line of those illuvitars in the album

[meager garden]

how do you get the skins then ?

that's a supposition you're making

[serene python]

Aah, so it wasn't a leak of the new Album Design?

[fathom lintel]

What skins you referring to? There are no skins for illuvials...

[meager garden]

ranger and drone skins

this one for example

he's making the suspicious expression

[fathom lintel]

This one is an emote, lol

[serene python]

That's an emote mate, not a skin 😄

[meager garden]

yes

but it's the suspicious

how do you know having a suspicious squizz won't give you that?

if you have to have the demonic then again, that's one rare 4ss emote

it's all speculation now

[fathom lintel]

We could very well get this one as a reward for having all 3 squid expressions, yes. But the main source of drone and ranger skins will be from blueprints. Maybe having a complete wave could give you a skin, but for that you will need to have all T5S3 illuvitars

And it will be an account bound skin, not an NFT

[meager garden]

I think you're underestimating the skin magic

just my opinion

hope I'm wrong for IZ sake

[fathom lintel]

Maybe a drone skin for larger albums, such as a full wave

[meager garden]

the amount of ppl that have full waves is soooooo low

[fathom lintel]

But they have to give out emotes and drone blasts for rewards too (as they are listed on the reward list), and it would make complete sense to give smaller rewards for smaller achievements, don't you think?

[meager garden]

I agree yes

[fathom lintel]

If they gave out too many skins here they would kick land owners in the balls

[meager garden]

hope they focus on the drone blasts and the emotes

[serene python]

Not much to worry about that, already happened 😂

[fathom lintel]

Lol, we might get a nice reward soon, who knows

[serene python]

I doubt it, but for sure hope for the best 👍

[fathom lintel]

And I'm still super bullish on rare blueprints/skins from land. I know many people are not, and that works very well for me as I would like as little competiton as possible 🙂

[meager garden]

Changing gears a bit, @fathom lintel I saw you voted down on my idea and previously you were very adamant against the alpha sale restructure.
What is for you the biggest setback in this change? And would you be against the change even if it brings more money to the DAO short and long term and help retain/increase value for wave 1 and wave 2 alphas long term?

[frank pier]

well the ones you have now sure aren't gonna be rare 😉

[meager garden]

I must say the arguments I've got against pushing for the alpha sale restructure are not looking very convincing to me. At least for the potential that the alpha sale has to become.
But maybe it's just me and we're better off not increasing our DAO earnings.

The main ones are:

1. We've already got 2 waves with this structure let's not change things now and wait for the end of the set which will probably be 1-2 years from now.

2. You are betraying every alpha wave 1, 2 investor trust by changing the sale parameters now

3. This is a premium product let those (a small minority) who want to pay the premium price have a chance to continue buying this product at a premium.
   You are not forced to buy alpha disks. If you don’t like them or think are overpriced, that’s fine, wait for the non-alpha sale.

4. Limiting the # of alpha d1sks may lead to community members being left out with no option to buy.
   We may even see a bot buying all at once and controlling the entirety of the alpha D1sks.

5. Many community members have complained about the possible 24h window for wave 1 alpha sale.
   You may not be able to buy in that short time-span and that’s why it was extended a bit longer for wave 2.

6. It's hard to estimate sales by putting a cap on D1sks.

Did I miss anything?

[tepid geyser]

That pretty much sums it up thus far. There may be more though.
I'm still hoping more people can contribute their thoughts, for or against.

[meager garden]

The more feedback we have the better, for sure.

That's why I've been trying to gauge the community sentiment.

[fathom lintel]

Yes, all stage 1s will be common, I'm talking about those juicy stage 3s with sick vfx on them 🙂 the stage 1s are just a stepping stone to get to them

[frank pier]

how may stage ones do you need to bond to get to a stage 3?

or burn, etc

and then like acc. are they burned forever?

[fathom lintel]

The reason I voted it down is because I don't think the proposed changes would make alphas better. You would only make more money from alpha sales on paper (by selling out the limited quantity) but in reality, some of that money would just be reallocated from the normal sales, therefore, it would not bring in more income.

If you bring the price down, in order to really make more income from them you would need to sell more than double the amount that would sell for the current (2x normal) pricing, IN ADDITION to the money reallocated from normal sales to alpha sales (we would obviously never know this number).

You could also run into various challenges.

• By pricing them the same as a normal disk, you would make it a mistake for players NOT to spend their entire available disk budget right away (since they have an expectation of getting something that will likely be more valuable in the future for the same price). For this to work well, you would need to be right about the total number of wave 3 disk sales BEFORE the sale (an impossible task, since we don't know how OB will affect sales). Set the alpha disk numbers too low and you will make less revenue compared to pricing them double. Set the alpha disk numbers too high and you dilute alphas too much.

• Lets assume that we will have a bull run later down the line, and the game will be successful. We would only need to attract the attention of a few NFT whales and now the the issue of bots snapping up the entire alpha disk supply in the first minute becomes a very real possibility. It may not seem like an issue now, as we are coming out of the bear, but anyone who was around the last bull market remembers that this was the case at every big NFT mint, people with slow internet connections had no chance. If you price them the same as normal disks, you remove the risk for a whale to do this. If you keep the price 2x, they could still do it but at least they would have to pay double for the privilege.

[fathom lintel]

You don't burn them, but as far as we know, you will need to have the stage 1 before you can find the stage 2 of the same type and you will need to own the stage 2 before you have a chance to find the stage 3.

[frank pier]

so the bps you got from your land now is only good for helping you find stage 2?

[fathom lintel]

No, you can use them to make stage 1 skins too, but those will probably be common, therefore, cheap.

[frank pier]

so no reason to have more than one of the current land bps then?

[fathom lintel]

That's a detail we don't know yet. Is it enough to have 1 per wallet, even if you have more land on the same wallet? Or do you need a stage 1 for every plot? I guess this would be a good question to ask Johnny on the town hall.

[frank pier]

I'm guessing the first...but yeah would drive prices in the secondary up or down...if you only need one, multiple land owners should sell all the extras they have for whatever they can get

[fathom lintel]

Yep, lot's of details are still up in the air about blueprint mechanics

[frank pier]

a lot of details are not known on a lot of things 😉

[meager garden]

Thanks for the answer, I've taken notes.
Let me just ask you one more thing do you consider the alpha wave 1 to have been a success?

[signal trout]

i dont think you can say it is a success or a fail just yet as this is a gamble imo, if the game launch is great and it takes off and we get a hole lot more people playing and looking at the beyond market place then yes wave 1 would be a success for all the people that got in and bought the disks before hand as they will be able to capitalise on selling there cards to the new people at a higher price, as people also like the hunt down the cards they need for the thril. at the moment we have a lot of people playing with a lot of different strategys and we dont know which strategy is going to be the best.

[meager garden]

I don't see why it matters that much. Even if the game launch is a great success players won't be paying a premium for something that gives no added benefit. It is like Dooom said, alphas are for the nft whales (or as I say it should be for those who love Illuvium, but we still haven't figured that sh1t out)

[signal trout]

i agree and i am looking at this game as a way of making some money in the future, i want to sell to those nft whales as a way of making money, just like i want to play OW and catch the illuvials and sell them to the PVP players

[meager garden]

In regards to my previous question I would answer that the success of wave 1 had different angles.
It was a success for the DAO because they sold 20k mega d1sks for 5 times the price. Did those sells subtract from the extended sale? Absofuckinlutely. Nonetheless still made more profit that way.
As for the alpha buyers it was a huge L since they overpaid for something that instantly couldn't retain its value.

As to the alpha product itself it was horrible since we ended with nearly half of the total mega d1sks sold being as alphas, making them completely miss the mark of their supposed scarcity. And on this I agree with Dooom that it is hard to predict these things, especially when there is no previous data to analyze.

Now, on the other hand we're at a completely different position from where we were when we launched wave 1. We have 2 full waves of data to analyze so we can start extrapolating what could be the ideal numbers for future waves.

Was alpha wave 2 a success?

Funny enough we lowered prices for alpha wave 2 and now d1sks from wave 2 are more expensive than wave 1 alpha d1sks 🤣

I wonder 🤔

[signal trout]

that is one way of looking at it, but you could also say that it is a good thing that there are still a lot of mega alpha disks wave 1 d1sks to be sold down the track to all the new players as people like the thrill of opening the d1sk and the chance of getting something rare and if they don’t have any chance of doing this then the thrill will drop off and that is not do for anyone

[meager garden]

ofc they are but why did you had to pay 5x the price? They're not rare...

we're talking about alphas here

[signal trout]

the price was to high and they did somthing about it for wave 2, so they listen and changed it

[meager garden]

yes they lowered the price and still nobody wanted them

making it an embarassing sale

because everyone got burned with the alpha wave 1 experience

guess what's gonna happen with wave 3

it's not hard

we're about to have an alpha sale for wave 3 prior to OB launch, with no new players, everyone comfy at the leaderboard already, not needing to push or rush anything, Basically the same as it was on wave 2, maybe the sale doesn't go as bad cause ppl see how little wave 2 alpha d1sks were sold, but it'll still be bad, there's no general interest for alphas right now.
We gotta give a call to those nft whales cause I'm not seeing them 🤐

[signal trout]

i guess we will just have to wait and see

[meager garden]

nah, I'm making moves

[signal trout]

well if you want to sell your alpha's cards cheap let me know, as i know a few people that will buy them 🙂

[meager garden]

how lame is that...

alphas should be selling 10x more

instead they go for 2x

thank god we overpaid

almost EVERYONE bought alphas in wave 1, but now they are nfts for whales 🤣

go figure

[signal trout]

Anyway good chat, time will tell, i am in for the long run and i hope we get a lot of new players for all parts of Illuvium and we all get to cash in on it.

[ionic stratus]

🤩

[livid bramble]

I pushed back day one against this notion that Alpha (and everything associated with Beyond) was for "whales". I understand that silly whales who throw huge wads of ETH at NFT's may have once existed, but most of those whales got carved up by the bear market and ended up served as sushi... I do however see people willing to buy Illuvitars to support Illuvium the project and I also see some collectors (large & small) attracted to collecting first edition mints of Pokemon-like cards. I myself purchased lots of Alphas and also handed ETH out like candy on the Illuvidex for non holo rare Illuvitars with nice backgrounds... Stupid me. The minute I realised that the publisher did not even understand the concept of first editions and hearing that the high price was to rip whales as much as possible I felt insulted. I did not feel like participating in Wave 2. I would not waste money on an overpriced version with no real value. Similarly I am less likely to throw valuable ETH at a collectible in a competitive leaderboard after hearing that some owners of Land NFT's can easily vote down 100 people and remove the leaderboard rewards and have it given to them instead... Seriously imagine being a competitive Tennis player and finally getting to Wimbleton and just before you receive the trophy and prize money they decided not to pay you because the DAO wanted the money for new turf instead... The point I am trying to highlight here is some things like Game Rules, Supply, Sales Windows and Rewards should be stable and consistent. They need to be enshrined and guaranteed otherwise the JPEGs are not worth a pixel.

By the way, I am not dissing the Illuvium Zero Land Owners - I can assure them that I am in their boat too.

[sharp sigil]

I have the same feelings about wave 1 alphas... 😞

I believe the meaning of alpha as first edition of illuvitars is not working here for illuvium beyond unless the main game reaches attractions to masses and they may think that first edition of illuvitars maybe valuable assets to hold. Its all depends on the main game's success

[frank pier]

indeed the rewards for leaderboard should be enshrined, and technically there is enough emails, etc. where the ILV payouts are mentioned as an incentive to buy disks, as something fixed, that I think legally someone could argue it is a contract, and would if they were cut or eliminated (now if the split ILV at some time, they technically could keep the same ILV amount and keep the agreement). I see nothing from the team suggesting they would do this or a lack of support for beyond; if anything they appear to be supporting Beyond even more going forward. And the dao is still a legal entity and yes has some sway but they also have to follow the intent of the process, the direction of the managing team, and the recognized rule of law.

[livid bramble]

I think you are correct @sharp sigil . It is a very risky long term bet that not only requires Illuvium to survive, but it must reach a point where the brand is an industry benchmark - an OG that is synonymous with Web 3 gaming.

[livid bramble]

This is the likely situation push comes to shove and this is why it is important to clarify and make sure the market understands that Illuvium stands behind their products and is reliable and dependable. It is difficult in an experimental DAO environment with many voices being heard - both qualified and not. More reason to set the record straight.

[meager garden]

I'm working on a proposal for a restructure on alphas. Stay tuned guys!

[calm cedar]

It was a hard stand to make against alphas. We were fighting and fightning. Most commented proposals by far in governance. It ended up being swayed by popularity, not by logic.
We now have 2 sets of alphas. And stats that show overpricing something is in no way making it rarer, nor more expensive in the long term.
The fact that way less wave 2 alphas were bought even at lower price tells the story that all who bought wave 1 learned their lesson. And just wanted the cheapest thing possible. Alphas were not covering the increased cost.

[meager garden]

From the beginning what the team said was that there would ONLY be 20k Mega d1sks available and that generated all the hype around the initial alpha sale, to the point where everyone was willing to pay 5x the price for something that literally offered no added bonus in the Beyond game. In the end we only sold 45.5k normal Mega d1sks making the alphas NOT RARE AT ALL and making everyone who participated in the alpha sale feel bad...

One good thing about everyone losing interest in alphas after being burned by wave 1 alpha sale was that at least now alpha ophistos are actually rare

If i'm not missing any, this actually gave us our 2 first misprints. The shy ophisto and the charged synalph (alpha)

@frosty knot does the team have any more clarity around the misprints auction? Will it be for the alphas or for every illuvitar with missing background/expression?

I personally don't think the latter makes sense

[meager garden]

Now that I think more deeply about it there's actually something noticeable that people payed 5x the price for.
A different alpha stamp 🤯

[sharp sigil]

An initial sale offered items without the alpha stamp, yet buyers snapped them up at five times the price. Later, the alpha stamp was introduced as a marker of exclusivity.

The unique wave 1 alpha stamp didn't meet expectations. Kieran and team were supposed to tweak it further, but it's unclear if that's still happening.

[meager garden]

for the price we paid it should have been an animated dark holo stamp 🤣

[sharp sigil]

Thats exactly right. Thats what makes it something unique

[meager garden]

and everytime you mouse-over the stamp it glows the words ALPHA

now that would be worth my money

i'm being sarcastic here for those who didn't catch my drift

[sharp sigil]

There was a lot of comments at the time of proposal but if i remeber correctly then team said that dark holo on stamp would not be looking good and also animation was discussed at that time but team didn't decide on it because it can only be possible in Illuvium site and illuvium game but not outside of it

I still prefer uniqueness in wave 1 alpha though with even animation within illuvium ecosystem. It should be noticeable for new users that those illuvitars are premium alpha illuvitars.... @tepid geyser and some other guys also agreed on it.

The visually distinct alpha stamp proposal was specifically aimed at creating a differentiating mark for wave 1 alphas. Its purpose was to make them instantly recognizable as unique and premium, eliminating the need for future explanations to new users.

[meager garden]

That clearly hit the mark hey? 🤣

You just need to zoom 🧐

[tepid geyser]

Dont remind me 😩

[meager garden]

I think the team was afraid to commit at the time to something really distinctive

maybe if we can push for the premium on alphas to be removed it will make sense to revisit the stamp and make it more unique

[calm cedar]

The fact that we have to add marks/stamps whatever to alphas proves that they were not worth their price 🙂

[sharp sigil]

Unfortunately, thats sad truth

[meager garden]

That's dead on.
But at least it helped me not mistakenly sell more alphas for the normal price. It was so confusing in the beginning 😅

[teal vigil]

We put the stamps on the alphas so its possible to see that they are alphas when looking at marketplaces that only show the image, name and id in catalog view

[fathom frigate]

Which I personally think was achieved

[fathom frigate]

We didn’t have to add them… it’s just a visually easy way of recognising a first edition

[fathom frigate]

Ditto I’ll snag your alphas not a problem. I love how people are moaning about the price but there’s a potential game on the horizon and there are ILV rewards for utility

[meager garden]

what does that have to do with alphas?

will the potential game bring nft whales?

[meager garden]

and alpha or not I don't sell at these prices, so there's that.

but seems like stating the obvious is moaning now

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/stevie-wonder-piano-gif-5210084

[cerulean quartz]

Is there a group for those who want to swap items Instead of buy ? Obviously these will need to be trusted members and not large swaps ?

[fathom frigate]

What’s the issue with alphas in your opinion?

[cerulean quartz]

Not wort it

[cerulean quartz]

I won't be buying alphas again ....pointless imo

Very few care about alphas. That's just a fact

[meager garden]

you will if my proposal get approved 😉

[cerulean quartz]

Cool let's see😎

[meager garden]

who doesn't want to grab some alphas if they're the same price as the extended version

and here he comes

[mossy turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/tea-shade-goth-halloween-you-just-wait-gif-15826642

[meager garden]

haha bring it 🤣

[mossy turtle]

There is to much i want to comment on since yesterday and i dont have time right now. Good luck to you, but im quite certain that they won't approve of this

[meager garden]

thanks for the support 🫡

you do realize the idea is currently 20-8 in thumbs up right?

where are the haters??? come on, step up the game

[mossy turtle]

thumbs down does not count, and its not an iip yet

[meager garden]

exactly, imagine when I make it a proper IIP, I'm gonna blow some salty alpha haters for sure

[mossy turtle]

no

[meager garden]

I've put a lot of work into this so pls be kind

[mossy turtle]

Well sure, you just said that you are going to blow me, so sure, i can be kind

[meager garden]

kek

so you are a salty alpha hater, kinda knew it

how many alphas you got?

[mossy turtle]

perhaps not salty, and not really hating, but i dont care for them.
8 it seems

[meager garden]

I rest my case.

[mossy turtle]

what case?

[meager garden]

you're just a loud minority

[mossy turtle]

no

[valid sierra]

rofl this kid

Are you the one that came to cry in my DMs cause I downvoted your proposal?

[meager garden]

no I asked you why you downvoted all my ideas

[valid sierra]

calling others salty

[meager garden]

at least give some feedback

if you thumbs down

be constructive you know Fraggy?

[valid sierra]

Or maybe, just MAYBE all proposal should have a thumbs up and a thumbs down and you never put the thumbs down one

🤯

[meager garden]

it could be the case but you do it after there already is a thumbs down

so kinda misses the point

[valid sierra]

Lol not gonna argue with a liar. Have a nice weekend my fren

[meager garden]

whut

sir I'm no liar

#1196865968769601627 message

you never use tone1

and you're there

you know why?

cause you weren't the 1st

I rest my case.

Have a nice weekend

[valid sierra]

That one is just a crappy idea

[meager garden]

Gotcha 🫡

[valid sierra]

But keep on posting them, once they take one serious I'll post my feedback. Not gonna waste more time on you

[meager garden]

It's just the idea with more upvotes from them all xDDD

The other must really be bad

[valid sierra]

They are

[pure pulsar]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pool-chill-flamingo-gif-22586025

[meager garden]

"will there ever be an idea where you give a thumbs up xD
you could share some criticism, we need it to make the ideas better"

this was what I "cryed about"

[valid sierra]

I can give you a hug if you want?

[meager garden]

lol

[cerulean quartz]

What does it mean ? 😆

[fathom frigate]

We’re pre bull and yet to onboard a tonne of people. I’ll happily buy yours if your going to let them go cheap

I love holo alphas

Perhaps holos could count to more sleeve reward points if utility is really lacking but….

[urban stratus]

what are you searching for?

I would love such a grup aswell btw

[cerulean quartz]

Want to swap a clown nose for a rhamphy 😆☺️💯🎊.

No no kidding ....just some accessories

[urban stratus]

hehe i am looking for trades aswell clown nose is really not the value trade though

[cerulean quartz]

Yeah just kidding 😜

Ok I will DM you my wallet

[urban stratus]

no but the idea has merit like a group where only with vouch from oldschoolers get you in

lets be friends 🙂

[gusty cliff]

can you buy disks with silv2?

[mossy turtle]

Yes! but we are between waves right now, so there are none to buy, except from the secondary market

[gusty cliff]

so in theory its always best to buy disks with silv2 instead of eth/ilv?

[mossy turtle]

You cant pay with ilv
Its eth or silv2. Which is the better option is up to you to decide. But sure there usually is a discount using silv2

[gusty cliff]

and silv2 is priced at the price of ILV when used for purchases?

[mossy turtle]

Exactly

[keen forum]

Simply because there is no reason for a higher price of Alphas, there is no such thing in the cards and I think this idea definitely does not come from collectors. I have graded cards in the bank in the safe deposit box that cost 10x the non-first edition version, But I would never have started collecting them if the first edition cost more, it is always the free market that makes this choice

Is there anyone in this channel who is a collector?

I really like Beyond, but there are two main problems imo, the first is that until the game comes out, no one can use Beyond in-game rewards, whatever they are

and the second case is the lack of use even with in-game rewards, and IZ often goes against beyond, in my opinion they should be much more interconnected

I only have Beyond, because after reading what the Council thinks of the lands as soon as it was a good time I sold them, and many landowners don't have beyond and many in beyond don't have lands

one complaint was that in IZ only 5% of the fuel is produced by landowners, for me if a landowner has the whole wave 1 collection, he must have a small chance to make more fuel (1% or something like that) if you have complete wave 2 the same so for each wave this way there is an extra use case and increases the demand for both games. I don't think the price of alpha changes anything

[mossy turtle]

what kind of cards have you collected?

[keen forum]

"High Value" Just Yugioh, Something Pokemon and Magic

[mossy turtle]

Allright

[keen forum]

Beyond for me is even more beautiful than pokemon, every nft will always be mint

[keen forum]

Do you collect something?

[mossy turtle]

No, i have never done, until Beyond

[frosty knot]

Just to close this out.

@obsidian dune was correct - Vercel was experiencing issues.

At 2024-01-17 21:37 UTC, approximately 3% of queries to the metadata service returned 500 errors with the message INTERNAL_DEPLOYMENT_FETCH_FAILED. By 21:56, the resized service was operational again, and the last error occurred at 22:04.

Vercel are working on a post-mortem and RCA.

[dreamy cipher]

Good work Sir!

[urban stratus]

what an amazing day on illuvium beyond thanks for everyone taking part in the weirdness with me today 🙂

[barren linden]

Alpha should come with a HOLO accessory (just one) incentive to buy.

[subtle blade]

With the Misprint Auction, i was discussing this with another beyond collector and we thought this would be a good idea. Once set completed, instead of auctioning off misprints they could randomly put them in a disk and then do a Disk sales of misprints as each disk contains one misprint. Have one price for the disk ie. $150 or whatever that way when you buy the disk you know your getting a 1 of 1 but you don't know what it is ,could be a holo, tier 5 or Tier 2 etc. That way it lets everyone have a crack at getting a rare card without whales snapping up all good ones. Have to have limits on buying and other things to stop bots and whales buying them in one go etc but just a thought. Don't know how it works when you still have 1000's unopened disks etc Just a thought for the future

[meager garden]

what's a misprint?
anyone know?

it's a genuine question...

[rotund halo]

It's when a particular Illuvitar was never minted in any Disks. Like if there was never a holo rare expression for a given Illuvial. There's supposed to be an auction for those at some point

Edit: removed confusing wording

[meager garden]

so... how many are there so far?

if i'm not wrong only a holo omnipotent ophisto hasn't been pulled

if we do that for alphas, than there are a lot

[meager garden]

I wasn't counting the holo versions here

for example, with alphas there's only 1 holo umbre common expression, no holo synalphs, no holo ophistos, no holo blazing rhamphy

alphas do count for the misprints right?

[meager garden]

why would they replace the misprint auction that can potentially bring thousands of $ for the DAO for 150$ d1sks?

[subtle blade]

$150 just example it could be a lot more but it allows everyone to participate.

[runic glade]

anyone here with a wallet that collects backgrounds? testing a new feature out

[livid bramble]

I do

[runic glade]

what's the address?

[livid bramble]

I just sent via PM

[fathom lintel]

I think this comes down to interpretation. For the DAO, it was success as it brought good revenue. For the buyers, it was a disaster short term but could still be a success long term.

One important detail you must consider when comparing wave 1 and wave 2 alpha sales is that we had no idea about the ILV rewards for the leaderboard at the time of the wave 1 alpha sale, so everyone who wanted to make some kind of investment went for the alpha disks. The addition of the rewards contributed massively to the lower sale numbers for wave 2 alphas.

[meager garden]

@fathom lintel exactly right. Would just add this. The Beyond as product perspective.

[meager garden]

And I disagree with the correlation you make there. I don't think adding leaderboard rewards had nothing to do with the lower sale numbers for wave 2 alphas, but rather the bad experience everyone had in the first alpha sale, the fact that the majority of us spent waaaay too much of our funds on wave 1 and a lack of a clear vision on what alphas really are.

[calm cedar]

Remind me again, why is illuvidex not showing offers made in sILV2?
Those are present in other exhanges and we're missing the fees.
Also if you tinker with it you can make it show them like so:
https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/beyond/d1sks?buy=true&tokens=_0x7e77dcb127f99ece88230a64db8d595f31f1b068

It's probably like 5 lines of code.

[fathom lintel]

I guarantee you that the leaderboard had an effect as I am one of those who spent a lot less on wave 2 alphas vs wave 1 alphas due to this 🙂 What's more, the addition of ILV rewards is also the partial reason wave 1 alphas were such a flop for investors.

Few people here can afford to be both a collector of rare pieces and go for the leaderboard at the same time. Most of us had to choose. And as soon as you choose to compete for the leaderboard, it makes 0 sense to buy alphas (both illuvitars and disks), especially for 5x the price, so demand instantly dropped. My original plan was different though, I was planning to pick up some rare ones and hold them for long term. The ILV rewards made that plan go out the window.

If anything, this was an oversight from the team as they were the only ones who knew ILV will be added to the leaderboard a few weeks after launch. It was easy to predict what effect this will have to alpha prices, and should not have gone for the 5x pricing. However, I'm not blaming anyone, it was impossible to predict sale numbers, and they went with their best guess.

To be clear, I'm not complaining about the ILV rewards, far from it 🙂 But they did play a big part in the alpha flop.

[meager garden]

Gotcha, thanks for expanding on it. I could grasp better your point of view now.

Just one more reason to not have a premium on alphas.

[scenic frigate]

still too few people on the beyond space, that are willing to spend money on pfps. the introduction of the album was a nice addon that catches some players to change fron the role of an investor to a collector ;-).

therefore: community has to grow. than sales will go up 😉

[fathom lintel]

Let me just add, I respect your grind a lot, as you have the intention of improving Illuvium as a whole and we share this goal. We just happen to disagree on some details.

I already explained earlier why I think pricing them the same would also add new issues, so I don't think this is the solution. But alphas are only a small detail within the whole project and I won't spend more time on this, I will go with the flow. Rather spend my time on getting more ETH for open beta 🙂

[meager garden]

I want to thank you too, cause It's due to good feedback and counter-arguments that helps best formulate the proposals.

[iron niche]

Gm

[spare temple]

great point

i was subconsciously in the same boat :p

[sharp sigil]

It feels like a time for us to introduce some more customisation via allowing bonded Illuvatar accessory changes could breathe new life into existing assets, boosting player interest and potentially increasing overall market activity. By the way, I am against of cleaning illuvitars but allowing to replace with the new accessories

[fathom lintel]

my theory is that the length of the content creator reward program is no accident, the team has pencilled in open beta 12 weeks from now

[serene python]

Wishfull thinking... Pb4 probably Runs arround that time framee and we haven't started yet with pb4, after that the testnet Stuff...

[fathom lintel]

you could be right but the specificity of 12 weeks for that reward program is still sus, obviously tech issues can come up but I secretly hope that this time, they will really sprint to open beta instead of allowing more scope creep

[serene python]

I guess it's a usual testing time frame?
Like after those 12 weeks you Analyse data and See if the Program can be extended until OB Launch or if it didn't help AT all and they should shut it down.

And i feel Like if they don't increase scope at all, we would be suuuper lucky to Start End of q2. With actual scope ibguve it more of a Chance to be delayed to q3 than actually Launch in q2.
Just based on how Long Stuff got tested in the past. And what they still have to do from now on

[fathom lintel]

dunno, I saw Kieran saying in his last interview that they sat down and agreed on push for OB as soon as they can, I also saw Nick and Johnny mention a few times that there really is only 3 main things between now and OB, (account 2.0, the fuel exchange and I forgot what the third one was)

but then again, Nick also mentioned that IMX will work on deposit integration to their passport until Q2 - and if we will wait for that function, that alone can add 3 months to the timeline (mainly becuase we would need to wait for a 3rd party, who also may rely on some other 4th parties and so on)

[serene python]

"Kieran said in his last Interview"... I already have a smirky smile on my Face 😂.
Yea, they still not developped yet. Which needs to be implemented before the Final testnet test.... And i doubt that last test is just Like 4 weeks and then "lets go live" it will take mich longer. Except there is nothing to fix, which is unlikely

[pure pulsar]

whats your expectation of wen OB

[serene python]

Who knows. If they Stick to the roadmap and Releases happen like in the past, and the dev time and Bug testing of the crucial features, and sepolia test including Bug fixes and retest, would expect it arround mid q3 - late q3

[fathom lintel]

That would totally destroy the Beyond timeline though, also making the upcoming influencer promo kind of a waste as it would lead up to nothing. There will always be another feature that would be great to have in open beta but a line has to be drawn somewhere. The game would take off as it is, once it's hooked to the blockchain, and in another 2-3 months they can build some OW features that make gameplay sticky. And pvp does not have to be ready for open beta, it would make sense that it stays off-chain for a few additional weeks/months while everyone gathers their teams.

But I understand where you are coming from, we are already conditioned to expect delays so that's what we do. And so far, for a good reason.

[frank pier]

much wisdom as usual from you...and in the meantime Beyond will be a wasting asset as no dynamic event to drive further value, for beyond or the dao ..we saw what all that dead time did to land values

[tepid geyser]

This period of time will likely create one hell of a buying opportunity for ILV in prep for the launch of OB.

[smoky verge]

I'm still inching closer towards my goal... I just need that holo bored water Fliish with a stage 3 background!
It's a good time to finish collections indeed! hahaha

[dim hamlet]

im doing the same as well

[smoky verge]

the same? exact same?!

don't touch my T0s that i have to scoop up at unreasonably low prices! (before i'm able to afford them LOL)

[dim hamlet]

just not the stage 3 flish

[smoky verge]

yeah same. I can't afford the rare expressions. :/

[smoky verge]

ohh at least you aren't going for the stage 3 backgrounds 😄

but man, those look clean 😄

[dim hamlet]

goal to have all T0 holo and all expressions

[smoky verge]

Nice, that's actually a neat goal. I probably will aim for just holo rares later 😛

could we get these little thingies on the left side of the T0 collection to light up when you finish a milestone? they are grey now, would be nice if they went to grey -> colorised -> Holo if you had the entire milestone either regular or holo.

[livid bramble]

Glamorous little critters you have there, with only the very best backgrounds. My lot are looking kind of poor in comparison.

[frank pier]

Personallly I'm going on a buyers strike: only buying what I really need to fill or upgrade my album and probably about at 50% of the recent floor. Between a crypto market correction and nothing happening in Beyond or the greater ILV ecosystem for a few months at least, I see no need to hurry. This is does not mean I'm giving up on ILV, I still believe in it long-term, I just see no need to be aggressive in the short-term.

[covert ibex]

Same, sadly I expect Beyond market to be pretty much frozen for at least the next 4 to 6 months, just get yourself to the leaderboard and enjoy the rewards. No need to do much else

[pure pulsar]

passive income

[hasty grotto]

want to make you gasp 😉

all holo but i spoilt one ...grrr

but i think i have a spare

[smoky verge]

Those are incredible

[astral ermine]

@runic glade super cool new features, your site gets better every day
illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app

[runic glade]

pushed a few updates to illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app for collectors... on the top right there's a missing mints and illuvitar showcase button.
with missing mints you can find backgrounds by tier/stage/variation that haven't been minted yet for each illuvitar
with illuvitar showcase you can see cool unbonded collections people are collecting (well, mostly Alexa for now...) Let me know if you have a cool collection that you think should show up but isn't!

[runic glade]

beat me to it haha

also added a timer on top of the site that shows how many hours left till next rewards snapshot

[meager garden]

awesome updates @runic glade 🔥

this just confirmed that if we're going to have a misprints auction for every background/expression, there's going to be a lot

[runic glade]

if that ever happened you'd have to ignore backgrounds all together, too many combos

[meager garden]

Yeah I would say all expressions and their holo version

[astral ermine]

Yes so only holo rare ophisto

[meager garden]

there are a lot more if we go for alphas

[slender jetty]

no airdrop, pls stop spamming all channels

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[slender jetty]

i said spamming not scamming

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[slender jetty]

youve asked the same question in many channels, only one is needed

read up on the website

DYOR

[fathom frigate]

Get another ?

[fathom lintel]

It seems you are off by a day here. Snapshot is not for another day but the timer shows 1 hour and 42 min

[frank pier]

actually I think that is about right...snapshot is around now, payout for last week is tomorrow

[fathom lintel]

Nope, we get the payout first, snapshot is 1 day, 1 hour and change away 🙂

[frank pier]

lol...well we shall see 😉

you might be right, but you may be crazy 😉

but it may just be a lunatic your looking for

[fathom lintel]

It could be both, lol

[frank pier]

billy joel

you have seeded doubt in my mind...but it's roughly around this 24 hour period for both 😉

I'm sure one of the moderators will judge the answer for us

[fathom lintel]

haha, no backtracking now!

[frank pier]

and yes, it would be nice to have a timer on the cutoff...payout not so mch

much

for those who are close to a payout change point

you don't have to worry 😉

wen top ten????

[frank pier]

I'm often wrong but never in doubt 😉

[fathom lintel]

When ILV will be top ten on coingecko, that's when I'll be happy

[frank pier]

no I meant your album

you flew by me

did you even wave?

[fathom lintel]

Oh that's easy, never

[frank pier]

lol

just buy out alexa

[fathom lintel]

sure, lemme grind out another 23438 airdrops!

[frank pier]

lol

🤣

I am seriously lol

well mavia might have one coming up if you got 1 eth for land

scoriox just did a youtube on it

I don't like phone games myself though

[fathom lintel]

I had a land earlier, sold it cause I know I won't have the time to play both

[frank pier]

well no hurry on zero anymore 😉

zzzzzzzzzz

whole ecosystem

[fathom lintel]

yep, even I became bearish on timing

[frank pier]

well can't argue with what is

=suffering

till proven otherwise

I'm sure by june though 😉

maybe wave 2.75 coming up in the meantime

my concern was things like mavia taking off before

[fathom lintel]

I've decided to buy a roundtrip ticket and go to Egypt for a month. Sunshine might help me cope with delays better. Do some wreck diving to distract me

[frank pier]

nice!!! Have fun and good luck 🙂

I'll contact you if anything happens here in the backwaters lol

my partner is in costa rica this week...send me a note about their massage on the beach today

[fathom lintel]

thanx, I knew I can count on you! 🙂

[meager garden]

what you guys think of having a top 3 highest weekly minted illuvitar?

[runic glade]

ah good catch, just fixed that

[wet solstice]

why are the beyond prices tanking so mutch right now?

especialy the discs

[alpine dew]

everything is priced in Eth, when eth price goes down so does everything

[wet solstice]

ohh that makes sence

thats why i had the idea to have all the prices be chosen in usd then auto matched to the eth value and then change the eth value to fit the usd value whenever eth changes

i should put that into feedback ideas

[ionic stratus]

Anyone have ideas for
#crimesagainstilluvitars 💪💪💪 competition by to win mega disk or standard disk. Need to post ugly bonded Illuvitars on X with that hashtag and tag @topaz zodiac and Ethlizards

[worthy tide]

no risk no reward.

[broken notch]

for the purchase of a certain amount of d1sk they give skins for the arena, who knows when and how we will use them?

[alpine dew]

Should have them a bit before Open Beta or quickly after. Your skins will be used/seen in PvP and Overworld.

[worthy tide]

I think art and block chain gaming has a role to play in the future of games and i have a vested interest in this and my opinion is a bias one but there is no denying how cool this PFP is

way cooler than Palworld tbh

i think the best way to go is let it unfold on its own and dont try and influence it one way or another the whole thing will speak for its self.

talent tallks, bullshit walks.

[frank pier]

correct me if I'm wrong, but Grant did directly draw the illuvitars, at least in later waves? And shout out to our great artists in Beyond!

[meager garden]

I don't think so, at least his signature is not on the D1skplates. But could be wrong.

[frank pier]

I think you are right...I never heard his name. And I assume this cools the movie production mania..now maybe we can focus on a Beyond card game sooner 🙂

change is disruptive but can be good remember.....

[broken notch]

and will only I see them, or will my opponent see them too, if we are talking about pvp?

[alpine dew]

Both will see. So if you have a custom battle board y'all will both be playing on it. I think it's a coin flip which board get picked to play on if both players have a battle board nft

[barren bobcat]

No he didn't draw/paint any illuvitars. He was focused on the main games!

[frank pier]

and thanks for your art work Dan

[urban stratus]

thanks for the leaderboard payouts btw didnt see the announcement

[sly hornet]

haha yeah, guessin that Rich was more than busy with those patch notes!

[barren linden]

While we wait for wave 3, Battle in the Beyond should change to GOS Game of SNAP. Each player puts up a prize , you accept the challenge or not...., 25 T0 illuvitar pack and on SNAP winner takes the prize... The beauty is because it is all online, you wont get your fingers broken by overzealous players.🤣

[frank pier]

I like the idea, but I'd change it to the winner gets the illuvitar, like card game war

[light epoch]

I though Rich was drawing them

Guess I overrated him

[remote saddle]

damm i was a bout to ask him whos alt he was

couldnt use his main account to talk shit lol

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/you-you-are-yes-this-guy-gif-11632510

[past totem]

Is anyone interested in a Holo Winq with rare expression and T3 S2 Background?

over 2400 power pre bond

[urban pawn]

Many would be interested, but probably over the budget for almost every1...That is really rare, only 3 like that exist, and only 1 stronger (T4s1 BG).

[past totem]

how much would that be worth?

[livid bramble]

How fast do you want to sell?

[astral ermine]

around 300$

[past totem]

not gonna sell for that sry

[astral ermine]

wouldnt also

[livid bramble]

It depends on your time window, its pretty quiet at the moment. If you are in no rush, you will get more value by timing your sale.

Otherwise $300 is actually a pretty accurate guide.

[meager garden]

@frosty knot does the team already have an idea for how long each illuvial set will last? 1,2,3 years?

and I know there will be mini-sets but I'm asking regarding the main sets

[topaz zodiac]

For anyone who wants to check it out Offers is live on Illuvialmaster 🙂 my personal fav. feature is it will show you if an offer has insufficient funds, no more wasteful clicking

[frosty knot]

Yes, although currently subject to change. This is with Aaron and Game Design primarily. (obviously subject to what the Art Team can deliver also)

[wide swan]

Rewards Distributed for 17/1/2024 Snapshot:

[past tundra]

Added to the pins

[scenic frigate]

@meager garden thx. very useful. i am glad you fixed it

[livid bramble]

"Offers" are great, but the funding of all offers is not practical. Right now I am bidding on 3 x Holo Axodons and loaded ETH to cover fair pricing equal or greater than recommended by Illuvialmaster. I will pay for the first to accept, but need to be careful to quickly cancel all other offers as I dont want to wake up one morning with 3 x Holo Axodons... Probably the safest way is to only fund enough for one transaction to complete. The trouble with this is I have to wait for someone to respond before bidding on something else. In my case right now I have good offers out there for 3 x Holo Dash expression #2, 3 x Holo Ryplance, 3 x Holo Terralynx and the 3 x Axodons which could leave me exposed to getting too many of one type. Not ideal.

[livid bramble]

I would like an option for the person selling stuff to set an offer threshold so buyers are not wasting time bidding and tying up capital unnecessarily, as well as help sellers dealing with low ball offers. I'd also like to be able to push out buy offers valid for 48 hours and not the current 7 days minimum.

[astral ermine]

yes, like a folder for offers, if one offer is accepted, all offers within close

[livid bramble]

Yes please!!!

[scenic frigate]

just open a ticket. developpers will take a look at it i guess 😉

[surreal pecan]

Just listened to scoriox’s ama with Aaron, and I’m really curious what the future of beyond will be like if they are only introducing around 5 new illuvials a year and the others being refreshes of precious ones

[wet solstice]

im guessing the pirces of discs tanked becuse eth tanked? this is why i don't like it being baced in eth

[topaz zodiac]

Awesome feed back, thanks 🙂 I’ll see if there is anything we can do on our end about these suggestions.

Though unfortunately we are limited by what IMX has to offer since it’s their system we’re building off of.

[frank pier]

we tend to complain, hopefully to do things better, but today I want to say how much I enjoy that Illuvidex lets me know what I sold and bought while away, unlike IMX...not only is it good information but actually get a little dopamine hit from it 😉

[urban pawn]

yes, and no...they tanked cause of various reasons, 1 of them being price of eth tanked (they lost about 10% because of that). Other reasons are disk purchase goals, potential scarcity etc...

For me personally, i avoid everything not in eth. If some1 places something at 10% discount, but in stable coin, i wouldn't even consider it, since limited functionality (part of it being all the hassle i would need if i want to exchange it back to eth) i would get in return. I think others would have similar reasoning (at least those more ''native'' to web3. Eth simply have much more utility in whole ecosystem than stable coin does).

Similar analogy would be having $ and living in EU

[wet solstice]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1199551327311757322

my idea was to have the eth price be constently updated based on a usd price while still having it be in eth

[urban pawn]

that is easier to understand if you are web 2 based...i still don't like it (my personal opinion).
This would only make sense to me for things like disc purchases (or smth else directly from dao), but not for overall market.

[wet solstice]

far enough

[urban pawn]

i like proactivity you showed thou. Most of people might not share my view, and if i'm minority, changes should be made even if i don't like them. 🙂

[frank pier]

love that Aaron showed love to beyond and a plan for a card game 🙂

[wet solstice]

a card game for beyond would be realy cool

[frank pier]

it will happen...and it will support the whole ecosystem, and you computer would be able to run it 😉

[frank pier]

do you have some illuvitars yet?

[spare temple]

anyone free to battle?

[topaz zodiac]

which disk style?

[spare temple]

standards, guess i could do 1 mega but not prefered

[topaz zodiac]

yeah I only have 3 standard

be right there 😄

[spare temple]

coolll

gg

nice accessories

steady high power

[topaz zodiac]

same too you gold trim cigar was a nice pull

[spare temple]

yea woulda been bummed if that didnt come up :p

[wet solstice]

yeah

[frank pier]

nice 🙂

[hazy juniper]

doing 3 standards on bitb

[meager garden]

I'm trying to gauge community sentiment about waves duration.
What do you guys think would be the best duration for each wave?
Keep in mind there's a 1 month interval between waves and that the Beyond set should be in sync with the Overworld set.
We'll be considering each set having 5 waves.

3 month (set = 1.67 years) - 3️⃣
4 month (set = 2.08 years) - 4️⃣
5 month (set = 2.5 years) - 5️⃣

[fathom lintel]

I highly doubt future sets would be anything close to the size of set 1. From the Aaron AMA it sounds like multiple smaller additions are coming but it's probably not something that is even decided yet.

[meager garden]

Let's just focus on set 1 for now... If nothing is done and wave 3 starts one month prior to the OB launch we'll have 1 year left for beyond (adding 1 month for the misprints auction). What will beyond sell then? Are we going to release a mini-set of illuvials 1 year after OB launch?

[frank pier]

get beyond a card game...more important than the waves even, and Aaron seems to be supportive of it also..when we shall see, but that alone would be a great support to the system no matter how often or how much the waves occur.

[meager garden]

he also said the next game would be an action based game since it's what we're missing, so we can sit while waiting for the beyond card game

[frank pier]

I'm even ok if somone like ethlizards creates it...the ILV team doesn't have to create everything. I think an action game will require a lot, card game very little, but I get it from "not another strategy game" standpoint

[meager garden]

and I disagree with you, the waves duration are extremely important for the balance of Beyond

[frank pier]

I thought you were the one who wanted to delay it three months lol

once you stop the steady flow I'm not sure it matters any more

look at the system right now....zzzzzzz

gotta find a way for people to want to show up here, and there is not much but watching someone bot the same illuvitars through the illuvidex every ten minutes at the same price...off to play somewhere else 😉

[meager garden]

I get that you're eager for a new wave, but there are some crucial points that need to be fixed right now. We have 11350 unique holder wallets, we keep milking the same ppl and it's a very small group of ppl not to mention that we're increasing the gap for new players to be able to compete for the leaderboard with each new wave that launches.
We've had one wave for 3 month the other for 6, wave 1 had 5x alpha prices, wave 2 had 2x alpha prices.
The ratios between alphas and their extended versions are around 1/3 for wave 1 and 1/13 for wave 2...
Right now this product has no consistency and it's all over the place...

[vague void]

Heyo, I posted in Ideas... Free Johnny's Beyond card game pitch so we can all feel excited about the future possibilities.

[meager garden]

Check my latest idea guys:
#1200839032960200724 message

[urban stratus]

https://discord.com/channels/765480457256042496/1196895404155994253

show some support would fix exactly this issue...

[livid bramble]

Filow you have some very sound points that we really do need to address. Beyond needs to run for 2+ years at a minimum. Slowing the pace should not equate to (A) oversupply and dilution of people buying early, or (B) periods of "boredom" at end of sale window. Quite the opposite should occure. Illuvium (or even a sponsor) should be running extended leaderboard & fun mini comps that people can play irrespective of their album size or when they entered. The slow burn mechanic allows people to still buy the remaining (but diminishing) supply, and a relatively small marketing allocation (internally purchased) can be used to reward extended leaderboard & these fun comps that leverage best memes, storyboards, collection sets, body building comps etc to draw lots of attention to Illuvium in social platforms. I am sure we could fill 6 - 8 weeks of break punctuated by special events. This fills a year with 2 x 25- Illuvitar sales + Promo's.

[meager garden]

thanks @livid bramble I thought it was a good idea but apparently the majority doesn't like it. I'm starting to lose motivation to push changes for beyond as it seems the majority doesn't care or doesn't see any problem with beyond as it is.

[livid bramble]

The road ahead has some twists and turns and people unfortunately cannot see that far ahead. When they come over a hill at 200 miles per hour (or 4 x sets/year) and see a sharp right, they don't have time to break and crash into a tree. They will see it, but too late. Those that are trying to act as navigators may call to slow down to 100 miles per hour sharp right ahead, only to hear from the driver say that its boring doing so... It's not an opinion that the corner exists.

It also does not have to be perceived as boring, provided we let the driver know that we are winning and for the next quarter mile can listen to some cool music from our sponsor 🙂

We also have non-driver audience just sitting in the grand stand on a small plot of land that have no investment in a car and want the money being spent on safety rails and competition rewards to be used as dividends for themselves whilst watching car wrecks. They don't understand that soon there would be no more cars in the race, no more sponsors, no more race, no more revenue... they will cry who allowed this to happen???

Fortunately, I am confident that the team wont let this happen so hang in there!

[urban stratus]

after grants explanation why he stepped down I think a big part of why it takes gaps between waves is just plain stress management. It's ok to push for change etc. but maybe appreciate the fact that illuvium creates a games where players actually can earn money. not trying to put you down just saying its alot of work to create any game and doing 4 at once that will interconnect as i see it is a huge project and big risk for the devs. financial, mental and physical risk. Nobody wants the creators to burn out that way we all lose 😉

[frosty knot]

Good morning

[livid bramble]

Absolutely. Setting a fast pace and at the same time high standards is not sustainable with finite resources. The good intentions usually means that the shortfall in resources is compensated by those most passionate taking it out of their own health. Let's keep the high standards and learn to pace the project at the appropriate rate. Plan ahead with some deliverable entree's and tasty cocktails easy to whip up whilst our audience wait for the main meal.

[meager garden]

Hey @frosty knot just woke up. I know it's subject to change but can you tell us what's the duration for set 1 illuvials in overworld the team has in mind?

[smoky verge]

I agree with you that the sales have been all over the place. The Illuvitar pricing were fluctuating due to community sentiment and the sale duration was changed due to a partnership being introduced.

Going forward, i would prefer to aim for consistency for the current pricing and sales times, rather than overhauling the sales mechanics once more. After all, it is difficult to run analytics and statistics on sales numbers if you continue to change the sales structure. It would have some similarities, but would be like comparing the sales figures of apples and pears.

Wave 3 will likely feature a large influx of players, which can be taken into consideration. Open Beta would go live, which allows the team to (hopefully) integrate some perks from collection rewards. But more importantly, the game may show an impact on the sales volume of Illuvitars.

Your idea of selling a specific amount of D1sks is incredibly difficult to guess right. Have you seen Palworld? Illuvium has a somewhat similar product in the overworld, and we have battling mechanics with financial incentives that far surpass what Palworld has. But, we lack the survival aspect and thereby may not entice those players. So, my question would be: Will we attract 6M players in the first week like Palworld? Or will we go on with 35K monthly active users like Illuvium has had in December?
Impossible to balance a set amount of sales opportunities at least from my perspective. You probably would want to overestimate your sales, so go for the 6M projected players? And then you may end up burning 5K d1sks per day if you guess wrong?

What I would propose is to keep the parameters of the sale the same for at least one more wave. We have seen quite a lot of holders get lucky and/or complete collections, which is what beyond is all about right now. So, let's see how things unfold next wave and only then aim to make changes accordingly.

[meager garden]

Yes I agree let's postpone changing the sale structure for now, but we still need to address quite a few issues and it's better to do it now then after we launch OB

[meager garden]

cast your vote here pls guys

[smoky verge]

I can think of a few, potentially, but what other than these:

the specific time for a sale being X months? 👀
Whether we go from selling waves to selling entire sets at once in set 2?
Should the price change again?
Should the way of selling D1sks change?
Should the pricing be tied to Eth or Fiat like the partnership d1sks?

And most of these are just idle questions and not necessarily issues. We could probably just continue with what we have without running into major issues.
If I have missed discussions, just link me to them. I have mostly been away since christmas 😅

[meager garden]

I would say the biggest issue right now are the alphas
take a look at this post:
#1196865968769601627 message

[meager garden]

In regards to your points yes wave duration is an issue in order to synchronize beyond with the OW, but we still don't know what's the planned duration the team has in mind for set 1.
As things are with 3 month waves beyond will end 1 year after the OB launch and then I'm not sure what we'll be selling

Selling entire sets or waves is a matter only for set 2

We should not touch prices again for the extended version the feedback was quite positive this wave for that

Also since we've been selling d1sks pegged to ETH at least until set 1 ends I wouldn't change it. I don't see any problem in setting fixed USD prices like we did with the TL promo sale though.

[vague void]

Let’s get Johnny’s card game idea out there for everyone to see. Go give the idea some love or feedback - https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1200827776840769668

[spare temple]

any one want to battle a mega?

[wide swan]

wow

i'm mad

I havent touched my album for a bit

I finally dropped off the leaderboard

Rewards Distributed for Snapshot on 25/1/2024:

[meager garden]

damn... Your collection is 🔥
you gotta be on top 100

btw guys go give some feedback on the new idea
#1202046475320967198 message

[wide swan]

I have a lot of unopened D1SKS, I could get there... maybe next week

[meager garden]

you have more than 80k points to optimize you're good

and only 33% bonded so more than good

illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app

ftw

[wide swan]

What is this witchcraft

oh mai

lol

That Holo Adoredo with clown nose is a classic

[meager garden]

we have to thank @runic glade for it

[wide swan]

now just need an easy way to autosleeve highest

[dreamy raven]

Look at @calm cedar bio. There’s a link that will help you

[wide swan]

Ah yes I used it before

[verbal hedge]

Last day of Battle in the Beyond Season 0!

Can't wait to get these prizes out to everyone who's been battling with us all season long. 🔥 Announcements coming soon on that end (we'll have prizes done within just a few days). If you were holding onto D1SKs and want to give it one more shot before season ends make sure to get in today.

Midnight UTC the season ends

[frank pier]

to everyone, this app is magic, and remember to send your unwanted illuvs. to the address at the top of the app as a thank you for his development of this

[frank pier]

when are you creating a beyond card game? even a simple one and I'm in...make sure you can use bonded illuvs though

[verbal hedge]

Not planned at the moment but we've got several other key features that we're targeting for Wave 3 launch or soon after including wagering and tournament modes!

we're regularly discussing idea with the Illuvium Labs team and want to make Beyond the best product it can be together

I love the idea of a card game and want to make sure we see utility for both Illuvials AND Illuvitars in a game like that to keep our ecosystem working well together

My idea was a social deduction game (think "Among Us" or "Impostors") with Illuvials and Illuvitars working in tandem

[frank pier]

I think we whip out an illuvitar only card game and illuvials have arena and whatever else down the road to be featured in (eg cart racer)..illuivitars are ready to be a card game now, and that seems like their perfect product placement, ala GU

and man, if it's 3 months till wave 3, you ain't got much else to do with this ecosystem till then 😉

or actually much else for any of us to do either!

[verbal hedge]

For the health of the overall game economy, I do believe having Illuvials with a role in every game we launch is important. I also think there's not a problem with having that as a baseline expectation as well as providing additional utility to Illuvitars as we've demonstrated is possible. Illuvitars should complement the ecosystem and the core Illuvials/Overworld loop

[frank pier]

so illuvitars will also play a role in every game? 😉
exactly!

[spare temple]

i've got one more mega and some standards to battle, get at me!

[spare temple]

@topaz zodiac ?

[topaz zodiac]

I am fresh out of my own sorry 😢 but share if you get something good! Season zero is almost over!

[spare temple]

fasho no worries, do you still get points towards leaderboard for solo opening?

[topaz zodiac]

Yup

[spare temple]

hmm hopefully it just takes a minute, opened 5 with no change

[topaz zodiac]

Oh yeah it takes a few mins to update

[verbal hedge]

I’m not sure that’s necessary to include in every game but that there are some games and modes where they have utility seems like a no brainer to me.

[meager garden]

yeah, we all love illuvitars here but let's not forget illuvials are our bread and butter

[astral ermine]

illuvitars are butter

[meager garden]

more like jelly

[keen forum]

I'd be very happy if they made a nice card game with Beyond, but in my opinion it's very complicated for the supply of the Illuvitars and because they are bonded, making a competitive game like Heartstone, or Gods is almost impossible

it would be much better perhaps to build a card game from the beginning and give these cards either with new boosters pack or with wave Disks

[meager garden]

I think it's very doable, and being bonded is not a problem but a must have for the game. At least the one I have in mind.

And don't worry even if the team won't make the game, we'll find ppl who want to build it and then we'll submit a proposal to get funding from the DAO

[keen forum]

You've got a player for sure

Can you tell us what kind of idea you have?

[meager garden]

I already mentioned here before, I call it the Beyond Tower and the idea is something similar to slay the spire

[keen forum]

it is on feedback ideas?

[meager garden]

no not yet

if your familiar with Slay the Spire you'll get the feel for what I'm going for

[keen forum]

no i m not, but I'll inquire to get an idea

For now I think they do well to focus only on OW and Arena because it's the core business and without that the whole machine is off

[meager garden]

one difference from slay the spire would be you don't have only 1 hero but a team of illuvials, a bit like in darkest dungeon

[meager garden]

if they don't get that right nothing else makes sense

[keen forum]

Similar to the arena as a concept?

[meager garden]

yes it's a turn based strategy card game but contrary to arena it's PVE not PVP

you have to pay to enter the tower, and you get better rewards the higher you climb

[keen forum]

I like it, I don't think it's a TCG but it's still a nice game

[meager garden]

well it's a mix, the illuvials are the team and the bonded illuvitars are the abilities

[keen forum]

What would be the difference between a common and rare adoedo? Or the difference between Adoredo Raro and Adoredo Raro Bonde?

[meager garden]

the rare expressions have higher stats

and they must be bonded cause the accessories are what give the abilities

[keen forum]

In any case, it's nice to combine Illuviatars and Illuvial, maybe spending material that you can do with lands

[keen forum]

Being a PVE and not a PvP this thing would be fine..

Thank you for sharing the idea again, I hope it will be voted on positively

[meager garden]

I'm also excited to share it with the community once the time is right

[spare temple]

opened 10 solo and don't think its processed any of em still

[topaz zodiac]

might be worth opening a ticket in the lizard discord, but I am like 99.999999999% sure it counts

it would be silly if it didn't

still have 4 hours until season zero ends

[topaz zodiac]

got any more to open just sold some stuff and I could do 3 standard

[spare temple]

sure, just 3 fo me

[fathom lintel]

I feel bad for Konrad, dude has had the points needed for top 50 for like a month but keeps missing out because he does not optimize his album...

[spare temple]

I'll battle 1 Liquid promo disk tonight if anyones interested

[glad osprey]

I can do 1 Liquid promo right now, if you're available.

[spare temple]

Fasho gimme a sec

[glad osprey]

My b-- was in a game. I'm here now though if you are.

Oh frick. Ignore me. Completely forgot there was a deadline for BITB. Sorry beanstalk

[runic glade]

I think there's still a bunch of people who don't even know the leaderboard site exists

[alpine dew]

thats crazy if they dont

[spare temple]

All good thanks, I think I had enough points with out it, their helping me get it resolved

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/so-you-do-exist-you-exist-surprised-existing-sonic-gif-15910064

[meager garden]

go check out the latest proposal submitted:
#1202501917402599484 message
I think you'll like it

[frosty knot]

You'll be able to select each reward for more information & as the milestone and collections are completed it will unlock the rewards on your account.

[meager garden]

that's looking rad

[frosty knot]

The collection landing pages are receiving an overhaul also, the entire Album for that matter.

[livid bramble]

Really good news Nick.

[glad osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tim-robinson-i-think-you-should-leave-you-sure-about-that-gif-22429959

[tepid geyser]

Really looking forward to seeing those new album updates go live

[half jay]

Does that count as well for wave1 rewards which have been achieved?

[verbal hedge]

Lizards Labs/Illuvium Battle in the Beyond Season 0 Completed
The leaderboards for Battle in the Beyond Season 0 are LOCKED and rewards will be distributed over the coming days! 🪂 Check back in with us on the 5th and we'll have all details available for the Artifacts (Lore NFTs) and prize receipt. You do not need to do anything to receive your prizes so please be safe and don't sign transactions as we'll be airdropping your winnings to you in the next few days. That said, you will definitely want to activate your Artifacts so make sure to check in the week of February 5th...

We've loved the chance to battle alongside all of you as you open D1SKs and hope that you've found the platform to be an improved experience. More features to come for Wave 3 but let us know what else you want to see! Even though our leaderboard and prizes are now frozen until Season 1 begins (to coincide with Wave 3 launch) you may continue to open D1SKs use the Battle in the Beyond platform to play with your friends or in our solo mode.

[half anchor]

I noticed in the FAQ that a future feature might be to allow battles with D1sks from former waves. I was wondering if that was implemented, would battles be limited to D1sks from the same wave? And would battles with former wave D1sks count toward the leaderboards?

[frosty knot]

We're working to get those distributed, everyone involved is at capacity on highest priority project work - however we're on it when time allows.

Given those are NFTs they won't be part of the Collection Milestone/Completion Page, but there will be a record in your account page.

[spare temple]

Was wondering about this too, would be great to involve wave one if it’s easy enough

[frank pier]

not a fan that the beyond card game will also have to included illuvials, unless it also must include illivitars

[alpine dew]

yes illuvitars will be a must, as far as I know. there will be a free version like in OW I would imagine as well

[frank pier]

in case some of you missed one of Aarons interviews, he's talking that we may have waves of up to 100 individual illuvtars at a time! Wonder what that would do to the leaderboard!

and talking about leaderboard rewards to the beyond card game, which would include illuvials also

soooo, no more leaderboard rewards...you have to play the card game, but people with illuvials will get to play also as a replacement. If you are looking to sell your leaderboard position, this may be the time in the next few months.

obviously, you could still have the collecting aspect, but it will be only on rarity and beauty..so bonded may indeed be a negative

and zeros may indeed live up to their name

[fathom lintel]

This is only possible from set 2 onwards (so at least a year out), and the community would have a say in such a change, for sure.

[fathom lintel]

And I would be cautious with advice like this 🙂 He said there are no current plans for changing the leaderboard rewards, he was talking about future plans and as we all know too well, things take time to develop (especially considering that the council does not think a card game should even be the next game to work on). And I'm pretty sure the plan is not to let people with only illuvials play the card game, they were talking about a combination of the two earlier (where you will need a matching illuvial to "activate" an illuvitar for the card game). This is a major difference as you will have to have illuvitars in this case.

[frank pier]

he's done a number of interviews...this is the illuvination interview in case you haven't listened to it. The way I heard this is he wants rewards for active game play, and I hope you are right that you would need both illuvs to play (though that could be a pain for just beyond players), but again, nothing is fixed, and a card game is out there somewhere...is it a year? We don't get a lot of clarity. That said, I think it's important that someone making a push for the leaderboard rewards, spending a lot of eth, understands that specific reward underpinning indeed is probably going away at some time. Personally, I'd probably sell if open beta goes well and a whale wants my collection a high price to be on the leaderboard for whatever reason, as a pure collection game is of limited interest to me. I know some love their physical album of pokemons...that is not me. I enjoyed the challenge of moving up the leaderboard and using the illuvidex to do this. I think it's a mistake to take away LB rewards, as we pretty much filled the safety pool as the only internal source of income..in effect what we are using now to get to open beta (ignoring the raising of outside funds), and I would expect them to be safe until a card game, unless the dao determines otherwise sooner.

we shall see 😉

ps it was overall a very good interview

[frank pier]

pps I think in future emails etc. they should mention leaderboard rewards but also include an asterisk that states subject to change.

And I think beyond is a success; I just viewed it as the fourth pillar of the ILV ecosystem and it's really just a side project, which to be fair is what it was designed to be....and with great success.

[fathom lintel]

I know which interview you mean as I watch all of them 🙂 This is why I remember him saying they would only replace leaderboard rewards if they thought they can offer something better instead. And this why I think its premature to state things like "no more leaderboard rewards" and "it will be only on rarity and beauty". Or do you think the team will want to actively undercut a core group of investors that are the beyond collectors? It would be suicidal and I highly doubt it...

I don't think anyone knows how this will play out but I don't see anything changing before the end of this set (so within a year).

As for selling the leaderboard positions within the next few months, it's everyone's own decision, of course, but my math says the opposite.

• the next few months will likely remain frozen, with few new buyers, so you could only sell at a huge discount
• you can maintain your leaderbaord position spending next to nothing extra during this time (and save the ILV rewards until after open beta)
• we will likely see the token price going up after game launch (considering rev dis + increased interest + likely better market conditions), raising the value of leaderboard collections with it
• considering all the free milestone disks given out + people wanting to spend their money on OW, the next wave might be the cheapest to maintain your leaderboard position (and bagging those appreciating ILV tokens)

To me, all this means that I want to hold on to my leaderboard deck for dear life 🙂 Unless, of course, you think game launch will be a flop, in which case you might want to sell indeed... NFA!

[keen forum]

Hi, so at the end of wave 3 can will be deleted the leaderboard reward for the top 100?

[fathom lintel]

No, I don't think the rewards are going anywhere anytime soon.

[keen forum]

Yes, more than anything else I think that for DAO every disk sold is pure profit, if the game goes well it covers the rewards and gives a big incentive

[forest hamlet]

just received 5 standard disks in my wallet ???? anyone know what this is for ?

[topaz zodiac]

could it be for the BITB leaderboard?

rewards are rolling out between now and the 5th

[still herald]

Yep i confirm i got those also

[still herald]

Do you maybe know if the Elemental Lizards will be dropped also?

[topaz zodiac]

According to the FAQ elemental lizards will be airdropped later in 2024 after the collection launches

Prizes will be distributed via airdrop on 3 chains:-
IMX StarkNet for D1SKs (same chain as BITB / Illuvium Beyond)
IMX zkEVM for Lore NFTs (brand new L2 EVM-compatible chain from IMX)
ETH mainnet for $cLIZ (placeholder token, swappable for Lizcoin at TGE)

[still herald]

Cool thanks for confirming.
Hmm.. is the new L2 different ? I mean do we need to connect to it in some way? Or if we have assets on current L2 IMX (disks, illuvitars etc) they will be visible also and viceversa?

[gritty gazelle]

any info when wave three comes?

[frank pier]

around open beta...months from now

[topaz zodiac]

I am not sure actually, I'll see if I can find out though 🙂

[livid bramble]

Hi all, I am interested in selling my album and would be happy to take offers (no low balls please). The valuation by Illuvialmaster is much much less than I spent on building the album but I would be OK accepting something in this ballpark. It is listed on the current Leaderboard as ReadyPlayerOne.

It is currently ranked 30 and are mostly non bonded (only 36% bonded & using high tier accessories) If you prefer I can likely provide non bonded spares if you want to go 100% el-natural. Many of the Illuvials are within the Top 10 most powerful in each of their respective expression slot so view this as a meticulously curated album that has very few (if any) competitive weaknesses.

In addition the album has a good number of matching background sets for Illuvials across T1 to T5 which make it unique & attractive for "collectors". There are also a bunch of Alpha's and so on. - Many thanks!

[calm cedar]

Anyone keeping a list of initial disks sale prices in eth for all disks so far?

[cerulean quartz]

Can I ask what your selling ?

[livid bramble]

Hi Stray, I am selling the complete Top 30 album as it stands. In addition all of my Illuvitars with matching backgrounds not displayed in the main album as a separate collection. I will try to organise them so it's easier to go through in a few days as it is across three wallets but I am going on a short Holiday and may have to do that when I get back. I am trying to avoid selling items separately as I spent a lot of time & care putting it all together but don't want to spend the same amount of effort breaking it up if I can avoid it.

[topaz zodiac]

From the lizard discord in regards to BITB rewards:

Your address on IMX zkEVM will be the same address as your L1 ETH (and the IMX StarkNet address you use for your D1SKs). They are all the same address, just different networks.

Due to the way addresses are formed, this means that your private key for all of them is the same. So you will just be able to e.g. move these Lore NFTs by using the same wallet you have, but instead it needs to be connected to the IMX zkEVM network.

[calm cedar]

Did some digging myself.
Wave 1
Alpha Standard D1SK 0.025
Alpha Mega D1SK 0.1240
Standard D1SK: 0.005
Mega D1SK: 0.0249

Gamestop 0.029

Wave 2
Alpha Standard D1SK 0.00601
Alpha Mega D1SKs 0.05401
Standard D1SK 0.00301
Mega D1SK 0.01801

Team Liquid 0.022

[meager garden]

guys don't sleep on this proposal, go give it a read. We're still missing a couple upvotes
#1202501917402599484 message

[meager garden]

Thank you to all those who shared their support for this proposal

[tepid geyser]

Thank you for putting in the time and effort to construct it

[surreal pecan]

Just voted- thanks for taking time on this it’s a good thing for the ecosystem

[livid bramble]

You put in a lot of unpaid effort trying to keep Beyond on track with well thought out proposal submissions. I'm sure some of these will stick, some will unfortunately slip, but everyone really appreciates the passion, good intentions, and consistent follow up Filow. Cheers! 🍻

[barren linden]

I am a Eth Liz Newb I am 6 on LB on Standard Disk have no idea how to do this. Is there a link activate your Artifacts

This is me

[verbal hedge]

Stick around for a few more hours. We’re pushing the collection out soon and will have communication via the Battle in the Beyond site when it’s all ready

[verbal hedge]

Anyone check out the Battle in the Beyond site recently?

[valid sierra]

I'll try again once you get it to work

it just keep refreshing

[signal flower]

Refreshing how?

When you load the site, you should then log in... then you get a modal showing your prizes. At the bottom of that there is a button that takes you to our BITB Season 0 end mini-game...

[valid sierra]

It's like a disco party

[signal flower]

Can you send a screenshot? Or jump on a call with me and screenshare?

Let me DM you

Are you on mobile btw?

I see an issue there with banner overlap

Desktop is fine

I will prod the devs to fix the mobile site

Thanks

(please confirm if this was the issue if you would)

[valid sierra]

Nah it was on my desktop, doesn't seem to be doing it anymore now

[signal flower]

OK thanks. Let me know if you see it again

[meager garden]

well who doesn't love Ron Paul?

[alpine dew]

if there is anyone, i dont want to meet them. Ron Paul is a legend

[barren linden]

Yes!! I was a DUMBASS and didn't log in sooo cool I have no idea what I am doing but reading up on it now.

[broken notch]

@wide swan How about you receive rewards like buying d1sk and for opening d1sk in the 3rd wave of the 1st set, for example 5-10-25-50-100. This may well stimulate its diverse supply of illuvitars.

[meager garden]

isn't opening a d1sk already rewarding ? 🤔

[broken notch]

No

only for purchase

[meager garden]

@frosty knot quick question, why aren't the beyond leaderboard rewards distributed on the L2 like the arena leaderboard rewards?

[frosty knot]

They will be, we're working on automations for L2 rewards but it's a side-priority

[meager garden]

go share your thoughts on the following idea:
#1204326928430141490 message

[spare temple]

i like how Token trove used to show volume for each individual ILV collection, not lumping together. would be nice to bring this back

[meager garden]

probably the volume was so low it wasn't worth showing

they did the same for other games

[spare temple]

fasho

#bullrunconveniences

[rose trout]

Slappin Illuvitar wave 3 🤞🤞🐧🤞🤞

[slender jetty]

soon

[smoky verge]

I made a lot of lightnings with some sort of stones and crystals and then nothing happened. Great stuff... hopr the 26th has something cool in store for us!

But the short stories were a fun read!

[dire shuttle]

May I ask what is the reason you are selling?

[dire shuttle]

Hey Rich, I think I have asked you this several times, but what is the exact date and time for the snapshot for Beyond Leader Board Top 100. I wonder if we could have a timer on the Beyond website with a countdown or something like that.

[wide swan]

It’s on the events calendar

About 23 mins

[frank pier]

also a timer on top of this illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app

[dire shuttle]

Thankyou

[past tundra]

Possibly use the website’s HELP/FEEDBACK tool to get this in front of the web devs eyes as feedback. Look for HELP (?) on the top menu bar of the illuvium website.

[wide swan]

Snapshot from 1/2/2024 Rewards Distributed:

@past tundra

[past tundra]

**Rewards Distributions: **

Snapshot from <t:1709769600:F> Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Snapshot from <t:1709164800:F> Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Snapshot from 2/22/24 Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Snapshot from 2/15/24 Rewards Distributed: (Missed Posting)
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Snapshot from 2/8/2024 Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Snapshot from 1/2/2024 Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Rewards Distributed for Snapshot on 25/1/2024:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Rewards Distributed for 17/1/2024 Snapshot:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Rewards Distributed from 10/1/2024 Snapshot:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Rewards Distributed from 3/1/2024
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Rewards Distributed from: 20/12/2023
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Nov. 15, 2023
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Nov 8, 2023
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

10/31/2023
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

BREAK…

Week 16 Rewards Distributed:
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Week 15 Rewards
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Week 14 Rewards
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

Older distributions are still pinned separately.

[past tundra]

Ummm 17??? Or 24?

Or 25

[wide swan]

lol 33?

hold pls

[past tundra]

Please don’t say it’s 33. My post is full trash then

14, 15, 16, break, dates dates dates 17. It’s fine

[wide swan]

Technically I think it is 33 but I changed because the 3x rewards etc

i just changed to the date

[past tundra]

Smart I think.

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-gif-16315556475514269438

[signal flower]

You have successfully activated your parts of the Portal, so great job! Now we are waiting for everyone else to do the same, this will happen by Feb 26th. Then the Portal will start to.... <watch this space!>

[wet solstice]

what is the most amount of team liquid discs that a single person has here?

[little bluff]

Unopend or opened?

[wet solstice]

un opened

i have 6 unopened

[little bluff]

nothing left 😄

like a child with candy

[wet solstice]

i haven't opened a single one, even though i realy wanted to

[frank pier]

you may want to, especially if you are going eventually for the leaderboard. These disks have the best opening rate (ie chances for a high value illuvitar, which you can sell for big $) of any disk sold and can fill out those slots in your album as well.

[wet solstice]

That's exactly why im not opening them! becuse they have so much potential and use value. (im not trying to get on the leaderboard i don't have that kind of money)

[frank pier]

if you are keeping them to sell, you may do better opening some (keep a few if you wish) and sell what you get, in some cases for hundreds of dollars. As to what the disk could sell for in the future, if you look at historical pricing of disks it would be hard to see them go for more than 2x or 3x, vs you can make that now with one disk opening. And there will be a new wave in the next month or so and at the end another promo disk sale with a new partner, so "supply" is limitless. imho 😉

[wet solstice]

maby but thats also gambaling and im 16

[frank pier]

all of life is a gamble kid 😉

buying them was a gamble lol

but obviously do as you wish, and what makes you happy

[wide swan]

Kieran has a few

[ionic stratus]

Had 27 total I think. Sold a few. Opened a few. Got like 8 left. Pulled two blazing Rhamphys 😂🥳

[iron cape]

Does people care about the number or id of the illuvitar? I think i just bought the first Rhamphyre ever(#60).

[runic glade]

nice snipe

goofy rhamphyre #60 sick

[iron cape]

Thanks:)

[runic glade]

I just added a cool feature for collectors in illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app where the Illuvitar Showcase now shows partially completed sets, and a way to search for the missing illuvitars (are they for sale? do they even exist + who owns them...). thanks @livid bramble and @meager garden for the idea

[pine crag]

You are a god! ❤️

[runic glade]

(also reminded me once again how insane Alexa's collection is!)

also there may be some bugs, send them my way

[meager garden]

one thing I find really frustrating is not having the discord handle in the profile page. I see the wallet address but I have no way to contact that wallet owner...

[wet solstice]

probobly it is cool

[astral ermine]

i think people dont care so much yet about the id but the very first rhamphyre is really cool

[dreamy cipher]

I’m on the list but didn’t receive rewards yesterday. Last time I received a reward was 04FEB24. I submitted a support ticket

[fathom lintel]

That's when we all received tokens the last time. The snapshot was on the 1st of Feb and we received the rewards on the 4th, earlier than usual.

[dreamy cipher]

Oh ok. Saw the message from yesterday and was confused

[cerulean quartz]

So do we have an idea when the next wave is ? Between Q1 and Q2 ?

[cerulean quartz]

Love your website mate

[tranquil inlet]

was there an airdrop of disks recently? I have received three standard disks 🤔

[vague void]

prob battle in the beyond rewards

[urban stratus]

just the portal is never gonna be built right? i dont think all beyond players realize thats even a thing and there has to be atleast a few accounts inactive.

[topaz zodiac]

I doubt it would be left unfinished, probably auto builds on Feb 26th even if people haven't activated their pieces

[verbal hedge]

We are certainly aware that is possible and have a plan in place 🫡

[surreal pecan]

Yo Ani, do you know who I could dm from the illuvium side about a mystery of the nexus question?

[pearl olive]

anyone want to battle some standard disks?

[tough ferry]

Hi let’s do this

[pearl olive]

sorry already opened them

[tough ferry]

Okay let me know when there are new offers ser

[past tundra]

Do you see #1201578413530558534 ?

[smoky verge]

You cant talk in there tho.

[verbal hedge]

Can you create a ticket in the Ethlizards server? We can clarify (to the extent that it is possible) on our end

[past tundra]

It’s probably all the info any of us has though.

[wide swan]

Snapshot from 2/8/2024 Rewards Distributed:

@past tundra

[ionic stratus]

Can’t wait for wave 3 disk openings 😅😅😅

[languid star]

When is the snapshot. in 20 mins? or an hour after that?

[runic glade]

there's a timer up here illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app/

[wide swan]

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1204962339292446730

also here

[languid star]

Appreciate it!

[young tide]

Am I the only one who feels that rewards from Beyond should be a little higher than the arena mode, since we actually invested money in the project? Currently, the only rank that has more rewards is Rank #1. Also, the rewards should be increased for the top 1,000 players.

[hazy juniper]

I think expanding the distance for the leaderboard makes sense. As for them being higher, I mean I guess so, I don't really have an opinion either way, but ultimately more players in the ecosystem = more interest in beyond = beyond investors win

More players in the ecosystem touches every point of Illuvium in multiple ways so its always the top priority and focus to me. Which is the current initiative of Arena rewards

[astral ermine]

should be top 1000 beyond players too

[meager garden]

#1196987941717815296 message
Has had the required upvotes. Let's see how the IMC votes and if approved what the team will implement for wave 3

[calm cedar]

I think rewarding beyond by just holding items is way easier than competing every week in arena. So I don't think the rewards need to be greater. When token pumps by 10x. Everyone will be happy, regardless.

[meager garden]

that's true in a way but don't forget the threshold for #100 hasn't stopped increasing, ppl need to keep doing bonds to say in the leaderboard

[calm cedar]

I agree, but increasing the rewards to top 1000 will semi-solve this. People might feel OK to drop a tier and AFK.

[meager garden]

what's the playerbase for both games?

rn arena is paying to less than 200 players so we're actually paying to 100% of the active players since only eligible accounts with at least 15 games get rewards

as for Beyond there are over 10k unique wallet holders and we're paying to the top 1%

[urban pawn]

Big difference is that it costs you to ''play'' in beyond. Arena is free (atleast for now). But top 1000 might be 2 much. i would opt for top 500.
position 101-200 - 0.25 ilv
positions 201-500 - 0.1 ilv

55 extra ilv/week. That doesn't feel over exaggerated to me

[meager garden]

just checked, week one had 176 eligible players and week two 149 🤔

[calm cedar]

Thanks for fetching these numbers.

It makes sense to compare them this way.

[meager garden]

yeah good to put things into perspective

btw guys just submitted a proposal go give it a read
#1207640261451317288 message

[runic glade]

added a better snapshot countdown and historical reward distribution to illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app/ (would be nice if i could post the actual link..)

[surreal pecan]

You’re doing amazing work- honestly your tool/site is super helpful and keeps improving

[runic glade]

hey thanks! might be reaching its final form soon, running out of ideas haha

[surreal pecan]

Haha that makes total sense - some really nice work you've put into it

[frank pier]

remember to send off unwanted illuvs. to him to "pay" him back for all his work 🙂

saying this to all who use it

[past tundra]

Too many vercel scam sites to whitelist vercel. And whitelisting every specific third party site address would be tedious and potentially risky.

But perhaps…

The form below may be the way to make a request like that.

[zealous delta]

Collab Request

Thank you for your interest in collaborating with Illuvium. To submit a collaboration request, please use the form available on our support page: http://link.illuvium.io/collab.

[astral ermine]

how cool is this (not mine)

[frank pier]

I find a number of these to look amazing, and some nonholos with great backgrounds going for cheap in the secondary

[patent bronze]

how much was a Illuvitar Standard D1SK set 1 wave 1 during the mint?

[topaz zodiac]

0.015 eth I believe

[sour nexus]

I'm interested in this beyond thing, what should I read to learn more? Thanks in advance

[astral ermine]

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-beyond-point-system-explained

[sour nexus]

where can I see the rewards system? and how long will it go?

[sour nexus]

hello guys, where can I read the latest reward system for beyond? thanks

[urban pawn]

I would suggest you to visit :

illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app by @runic glade
there you can see weekly allocations, how much each person earned till now, their collection etc. A really great tool.
Other site you can use that i find really useful and informative is illuvialmaster.com by @topaz zodiac

For how long it will go, i'm not sure. Current system will be in place at least till end of Set 1 (some improvements might happen along the way). And that is at least a year from now (in my opinion). I say at least because start of wave 3 is unknows as it is planed to coincide with launch of open beta. Also, there are many initiatives that were organized by @meager garden and many proposals are being made that could change how things work around here.

Start with this, get to know how thing work, and when you have more questions, ask away 🙂

[sour nexus]

thanks much!

[frank pier]

and welcome to the best community in Illuvium 😉

[bleak crown]

Team Liquid illuvitars showing very incorrect price after 2 weeks still 😦 any plans to fix? on illuvialmaster

[slender jetty]

incorrect higher or lower?

[fathom lintel]

Higher, showing a $250 value for illuvitars you can still get on the market for $50

[slender jetty]

thx

[frank pier]

and gamestop ones seem low

esp. the mid/higher value ones

[fathom lintel]

valuing uncommon t4 TL illuvitar (165 exists) a lot higher than common t4 GS illuvitar (53 exists)

[onyx briar]

We will take a look!

[frank pier]

eg TL rhampy is valued a $46 and selling for $218 at the floor, and tl ebb is valued at $129 according to you and the market has it at $29...I would guess the market is smarter than the AI at this point 😉

[tepid geyser]

This one feels the most painful 😬 .
With so little data though I can see why it's a struggle getting a decent estimated value for a lot of these.
Hoping for some improvement though 🙏

[bleak crown]

This one still blows my fking mind

[tepid geyser]

Mine too. Signifies just how far we have come in just 2 waves.
Makes me excited for the future.

[bleak crown]

the day we get a maxed t5 s3 should go in history as a national holiday

[barren linden]

Hi all I haven't been paying attention to a lot of projects I am invested in can someone let me know if wave 3 out soon or ETA. Trying to work out my life of 100 wallet ... It's madness I tell you. I

[ionic stratus]

Kieran said council have landed on a month before Open Beta. So nothing confirmed, I would assume May

[barren linden]

Thanks

[frank pier]

I'll give you one eth for that 😉

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/no-donkeys-shrek-gif-16041065

[fathom lintel]

Oh wow, this is a stunner!

[astral ermine]

looks like @untold parcel s work

[bleak crown]

someone just pickedup a killer set lol

[frank pier]

fun 🙂 and when you put the three drone backgrounds going left, center and right it's a really cool look also

[astral ermine]

top 10 better watch out 👀

[frank pier]

of whom do you speak?

[astral ermine]

i think alexa is going for #2 also

[smoky verge]

He can still bond his holo Ophisto! 😉

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/neva-never-marc-homealone-youcantstopme-gif-9816521

[fast warren]

my new Illuvitar bot for Beyond is now on my twitter, if you want to see the highest sold illuvitar, every 8 hours, see profile

[hazy juniper]

u gotta teach me how to do this

[calm cedar]

Did I sleeve in time for the snapshot?

@pastel bison Thanks for the ophisto <3. It was the last piece I was missing from wave 2.

[dreamy raven]

Congrats. 🥂

[urban pawn]

cg man! I'm still missing Rhamphyre and Ophisto, and i'm afraid they are outside my budget 😭

[calm cedar]

I also did not open either of those. Had to get them on secondary. Maybe on wave 3 we can be more lucky 🙂

[frank pier]

don't forget, in this dead period it's a great time to pick up any rare slots from wave one, for if we do have new beyond players come in they are going to have to buy these limited supply items, and they are more affordable than the rhamps and ophistos of the world...but I've noticed the prices creeping up even in this dead period...anyway, just a thought 😉

[topaz zodiac]

probably just creeping up cause you keep scooping up all the deals to be had 😉

[frank pier]

this is a great time to do this indeed 😉
And also trying to firm up the floor on the low end stuff...less to flip quick, more just because they appear to me to have long-term value 🙂
Thanks for supporting my habit lol

ps and not much else to do 😉

[pastel bison]

No problem, wasn't sold on the price, but I wanted to see some traffic in the market so I figured I'll just go with it 😉

Lucky for you there's no counter offer system 😛

[vague void]

oof that dropped the whole floor for ophistos

[frank pier]

got another one you want to sell???

or a rhamp?

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-gif-19507576

[meager garden]

daaaaamn congratz!

[frank pier]

holy smokes...you are the king 🙂

[errant laurel]

If you have an ophisto, I would hold onto it for a bit! Imagine when the TCG comes out and ophisto is in the meta 🤩

[gilded sage]

Dr 🩺King 👑Alexa 🔥

[smoky verge]

Incredible @.@

[spare temple]

can we get a ping when rewards go out today?

[frank pier]

and can you start doing the rewards payouts on weekends when the gas is lower????

[past tundra]

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[languid star]

Whos Litre-of-Cola in here?

[wide swan]

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[languid star]

Just want to have a friendly talk haha

[wide swan]

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[frank pier]

Hi Rich, we have an issue with the illuvidex for Beyond: when people put an offer in and then don't put a time limit in the offer stays in forever often with no cash in the account to accept the offer and even when the selling price is lowered below the old offer, which does not allow new offers. The solution is put a time on all offers, or eliminate all offers each week that do not have enough cash in the account to accept those offers, since we have that information (you and see it on illuvimaster eg). Thanks 🙂

[wide swan]

If you could report this would be helpful thanks #❓❓〕support

[frank pier]

it says I don't have permission to use that lol

if you dont' mind forwarding it for me 😉

[past tundra]

Go to the website shared in that channel

[frank pier]

Team Liquid now doing their nfts...be nice if they included our promo ones, but I doubt it.....

[meager garden]

Just posted my last proposal for Beyond and this one is a long one, hope you guys appreciate it:
#1209995492113518633 message

Also, we're still missing a couple of upvotes on the last one I submitted:
#1207640261451317288 message

Go give them a read and show your support so we can push them to the ICC

[frank pier]

and what kinda gap do you want between waves?

obviously nothing like we are seeing now 😉

[cedar anchor]

That's me. It wouldn't accept the name 'Farva' or 'Ram-Rod'. 🤣

[languid star]

😂 So I bought your Ophisto. Was going to try to make a better deal, but needed it for top 100 snapshot.

[cedar anchor]

Ah, thanks. I listed it at the bottom so I could sell and hopefully acquire a rhamphyre. I've got a shy ophisto on hex for sale I could negotiate on if you need that one.

Speaking of sales, anyone have a rhamphyre they would like to part with for a reasonable price?