🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[light epoch]

once you go acc you cant go back

[valid sierra]

Is that my chicken?

Nvm, it’s not

They might be related 😆

[past tundra]

Ones on vacation

[chrome tapir]

any 1v1 in arena for 10

[livid bramble]

Here is the copulating culprit responsible for the wave one Kukka numbers. An Alpha from the Crystal Shores...

This may come as a shock to you, but I believe the father of your hen is this fellow...

[valid sierra]

Damn these chickens been busy

[livid bramble]

Shifty fella apparently... Was on leave in the Brightland Steppes area when he met the Alpha chook. They set up nest together in a hen house near the bridge.

Thats all I know sorry...

[cerulean quartz]

is this rare ? Whats a fair price ?

[urban pawn]

it is quite rare. also 1/1. it is hard to say what is fair price because of its rarity...not much data to go with (not a sigle one like that being sold).

closes ones are

so i guess somewhere about 200-250$ range.

[cerulean quartz]

thanks a load !

[urban pawn]

that is my personal opinion, might be worth more or less to some1 else.

[cerulean quartz]

its 2600 power

[cerulean quartz]

I thinkt thats not bad, so let me thinnkkk

[urban pawn]

aha, so t4s2, bg. taught it is s1. That would give it a bit more of a value than. How much exactly, as i said, hard so know.

only 1 similar in power was sold for 413$. better expression, but not so good bg.
I value expression more than bg, so i would value it at ~350. But that's me...

[astral ermine]

Fitting taiga background makes it more worth in my opinion. Im sure there are and will be playes who like to collect illuvitars with their fitting region

[pseudo pagoda]

What ways can we send disk content off of illuvium dex?

[past tundra]

Most Any imx marketplace can be used to buy, sell, and transfer nfts on imx. Which nearly all of illuvium's nfts are (including anything in #🎮〕illuvium-beyond )

They aren't on the illuvidex. They are on imx. In your wallet.

There is a transfer button on the illuvidex on the page for any of those nfts. It's a paper airplane.

[pseudo pagoda]

@past tundra ok only imx can hold ilv nft is it possible to hold it on metamask..

[past tundra]

You want it on ethereum mainnet?

So you have to pay gas fees?

[past tundra]

You control your imx wallet using your metamask wallet right?

[pseudo pagoda]

Just wondering how far i can take it into the blockchain..

[past tundra]

Anyways. It is possible to withdraw nfts from imx to ethereum mainnet.

It costs gas.

[pseudo pagoda]

@past tundra ok cool i didn't really ask the question right

Thanks for the help

[past tundra]

I'm not sure the illuvidex has this set up in the UI. But tokentrove certainly does

[past tundra]

No worries. I was seeking clarity and I think we got there.

[little bluff]

some mega battles?

[cerulean quartz]

What about this holo with T5 background, whats a fair price ?

[urban pawn]

same thing...nothing to compare it to really. closest ones sold would be these 2, and they have uncommon expression. Most recent one was sold for 189$. i would put it in 250-275$ range.

[cerulean quartz]

thanks doc!

[urban pawn]

np 🙂

[frank pier]

I would be in no hurry to sell as a rare expression...I'd probably start at least at .5 eth and 1 eth is not unreasonable...that being said, for high end holos it's a very slow market 😉

[pastel bison]

A reminder just a few days left: https://twitter.com/JohnnyILV/status/1737967503748530621

[pastel bison]

#JohnnysVeryBeyondChristmas

[past tundra]

Self promotion is against the #✍〕rules ser

|| https://tenor.com/view/issa-joke-its-a-joke-im-joking-gif-7246089 ||

[pseudo pagoda]

I am 2'11 green and have a shell who am I

[terse whale]

ok these things are addicting , I just spent 5 hours searching thru market place to fill in gaps , managed to just to 514 on leader board

[terse whale]

ohhhhh I found a couple more I needed , managed to jump to 480 on leader board

now I have to wait used up all my eth

[frosty knot]

What's your top Illuvitar so far?

[terse whale]

right now this guy ,Blazing Nimble Emberlynx

I haven't bonded anything to my Illuvitars yet , I need to buy more Disk once I can get more Eth

[frosty knot]

Checking out your Album now, I'll see if I have any duplicates you're missing and send them

🫡

[terse whale]

wow thanks much )

[terse whale]

I need to go to bed now

[frosty knot]

No sweat, sent a range of duplicates so take a look when you can 🫡

[pastel bison]

🎉

[little bluff]

i got some mega D1SKs, who wanna battle? Lethzzzzz get ready to rumble...

[teal sluice]

👀
Well, Nick... I am missing Synalph, Ophisto and Adoredo... Rhamphyre also

[tepid geyser]

Finally managed to complete the golden trio! 😍
Such an awesome design the TL Rhamphy!!

[frank pier]

what, not all holos??? 🙂

man those holos are sweet!

[terse whale]

thank you so much Nick that really helped me for points, with those I got to 458 on leader board )

[flint loom]

Holy!!!

[gritty gazelle]

good pull for a standard d1sk

[frank pier]

nice acc. I always get clown noses 😢

[gritty gazelle]

Just saw i had some eth in the wallet and though to buy just one ans this was the outcome😅

[light epoch]

@topaz zodiac Hey there, I think one of the illuvial web certificate is expiring.

[topaz zodiac]

We're working on it 😅 been submitted and verification can take 5 mins to 48 hours we're hoping sooner rather than later, not sure why it didn't auto renew

[light epoch]

Aight, got it

[topaz zodiac]

appreciate you pointing it out!

[ionic stratus]

Anyone able to assist me with transferring all my illuvitars to another wallet?

If there is a way 🫶

[topaz zodiac]

Illuvialmaster has a mass transfer button, can do in batches of 100

[tepid geyser]

Would it be possible to send batches larger than 100 in the future?

[topaz zodiac]

currently the amount is limited by IMX so I mean you can currently do multiple batches but would need to sign for each 100

[frank pier]

then next exchange that wallet/collection for eth would be my next wish to make the sale of whole collections easier with no trust issues.

[nocturne star]

Supp guys I have transcation with @frank pier he need some vouch tnx.

[frank pier]

@tepid geyser or @topaz zodiac can you speak to this?

[topaz zodiac]

vouch tnx?

[frank pier]

yes, that I am trustworthy is he sends some illuvs. and I send some eth

[topaz zodiac]

ohhh lolz showing my age, I can vouch for @frank pier

[nocturne star]

Tnx

[frank pier]

Thanks again and all went well, and also Zeroprince seems like a stand up person too!

and Happy New Year all 🎉

[meager garden]

happy new year to the beyond family

[pseudo pagoda]

@topaz zodiac time to go web3 i have a few unstoppabledomains.com few illuvium related....

[topaz zodiac]

I am good but thanks

[pseudo pagoda]

Illuvialmaster.x haha

[urban stratus]

Happy new year!

[cerulean quartz]

WTS a few holos, DM me 🙂 Also quick question are T5 accessorizes more rare than rare illuvitairs ?

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[cerulean quartz]

HAPPPY NEWWW YEARR, its going to be a wonderful year ahead?

Will there be a wave 4 ? or is wave 3 the lat ?

last ?

Alos whats everyones view on T5 accesories and thier vaue going forward ?

[cerulean quartz]

awesome !

[cerulean quartz]

amazing pull!

[urban pawn]

Happy New year every1! All the best to you all!

[urban pawn]

how do you define rare illuvitar? 1450+ power? if so, than yes, t5 accessory is way more rare. to put things in perspective, i have opened ~2000 standard disks and did not got any t5s3 accessory, i got several t5s2, and about a dozen t5s1, while also getting atleast 50+ illuvitars with power more than 1450 (could be even 100+, but that would be 2 hard to count).

[cerulean quartz]

awesome thats super helpful

[urban pawn]

there will be wave 4

[cerulean quartz]

goiing to hold on to them then

[cerulean quartz]

endless waves ?

[cerulean quartz]

i think they should try and make the accessoeris a bit different for each wavem like ven in color or slightly different desings for each weave not all the same

[urban pawn]

no, not endless. Set 1 will have 4 waves.

[cerulean quartz]

what about tier 5 stagea 2 accestories

[urban pawn]

didn't mentioned, but each mega disk guarantees rare illuvitar

[urban pawn]

what about them?

[cerulean quartz]

also more rare than rare illuvitars?

[urban pawn]

well, yes...if definition of rare illuvitar is 1450+ power

[fathom lintel]

Unless they raise the number of illuvials in future waves, there has to be at least 5. Last I heard wave 3 will also have 25 illuvials in it so we still have 55 more to come after that.

[frank pier]

at one time I hear even up to 6 waves...no idea where we are at now. Also this is set 1...meaning set 2 will eventually happen. I think it ties into as the overworld illuvs. expand also. I don't think you have to worry about the supply of new illuvitars running out any time soon 😉
And yes rare accessories are rare, too rare in my opinion, especially with mega disks I think you should get more higher rated acc. than the standard disk. But remember all these first waves in set one will only have the same accessories, so eventually supply will go up and prices down as we have seen..until new players come in

[sly hornet]

Happy New Year everyone!!

[scenic frigate]

hey guys, happy new year!

[spare temple]

thanks for bein a solid community y'all, 2024 bout to be our year

#stillearly

[cold vale]

Happy holidays Fam! Please welcome, my most powerful Illuvitar has just been born😍

[tepid geyser]

Wow!! Blazing as well. Proper beast!!

[pastel bison]

Very nice 😻

Also just noting that the D1sk competition #JohnnysVeryBeyondChristmas on X is closed. I'll aim to pick winners over the next few days.

Thanks everyone for submitting, hope you had some fun. There's some cool responses, judging will be tough!

[tepid geyser]

Someone got an amazing deal there. The accessories alone cost more!

[past tundra]

Alpha!

[gilded sage]

happy new years 🎊 are other ppls seeing this error when trying to go to illuvialmaster site?

[ember ivy]

Yep saw that last night, they need to refresh their SSL cert

[frosty knot]

I believe they're working on this, from my understanding there is a lag time once it's been submitted

[gilded sage]

Gotcha - thanks!

[runic glade]

just deployed a feature to illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel.app/ where it suggests some bonded illuvitars for your albums, would appreciate some feedback as am still tweaking the algo. the Load button opens the 'workshop' where you can tweak the suggestions further. @fathom lintel @astral ermine @surreal pecan @meager garden @smoky verge

[slender jetty]

when do we receive rewards?

dequest

[frosty knot]

I'll nudge the guys on this, but from my understanding DeQuest has the D1SKs are will be handling distribution

[frank pier]

really appreciate you doing this...just wondering is this a labor of love or will you be able to montize this some way?

[calm cedar]

I wonder why is there no d1skplate for team liquid promo sale. I was looking forward to collecting those promo d1skplates 😦

[light epoch]

same, so sad, these liquid are so lit

[calm cedar]

#1191644953848320010 I've put up an idea about this. I'm pretty sure we can get some support behind this and get it done.

[cerulean quartz]

is 7000 a good score for a bonded pfp ?

[cerulean quartz]

nice, whats the website ?

[livid bramble]

Yep that's a beauty!

[cerulean quartz]

Ah so you can see what power bonded stuff might give you even if you dont own it ?

[cerulean quartz]

oh 7000 is good ?

noice

[livid bramble]

7K+ is very good

[cerulean quartz]

gosh is so hard trying to decide to bond, not bond, sell accessories to buy more disk ect ect, painful lol

[livid bramble]

Which Illuvitar?

[astral ermine]

Im on the phone the next few days only but maybe add that the suggestion prefer already owned illuvitars. For example i got an holo umbre bg stage 3 already unbonded or an high power squizz but there are examples of other illuvitars with less power i think.

[cerulean quartz]

what do people think abuot the arena skins, what will they be worth, any thoughts /

[cerulean quartz]

just in general

[livid bramble]

It depends on what you want to do with the Illuvitars you have now. If you are completing the library for pleasure, as a collection, or to be competitive in the Top 100 Leaderboard based on "points"... You may just want to accessorise one for your PFP? But as a general rule if it's a speculative investment then most would agree that keeping your illuvitar native original is the best way.

[light epoch]

there are some illuvitar that sleeve in to more slot than the other, so a 7k on a right one would be perfect, but anything above 5k is already strong.

[cerulean quartz]

yeah for sure almost all mine are unbonded

[livid bramble]

Yes its a challenge knowing what to do, and if to bond which to sacrifice...

I find it hard to decide because I do a bit of background collecting and like to keep them neat, as well as keep the album competitive. There are 2/3rds non bonded in mine.

[cerulean quartz]

what do you think about the skins , wave 2 arena skins , what value do you tihnk thye will have, as will be limited

[pine crag]

I think especially the holo versions can be worth some eth as they will be super limited.

One of the rarest and definitely much more expenisve will be the Team Liquid Skin. As you will have to buy the whole set of the Team Liquid Illuviatars to finalize the album.

[light epoch]

yeah, only 14 skin possible to be colllected now

[livid bramble]

It's a big prize, the skin is rare and the full suit already assembled; so no need to hunt for Illuvials or dyes.

Having said that, going out hunting and gathering should be fun.

[cerulean quartz]

you mean arena skins

[covert ibex]

Do we have any news on wave 3 dates? I can’t wait for the next wave to drop

[light epoch]

not yet, but should be Q2

[keen forum]

Hello everyone and Happy New Year, I would like to ask two things. In a few days the sale of the wave 2 disks ends, right? After that, will it no longer be possible to mint wave 2 disks?

[cerulean quartz]

yes no longer possible for those type

[keen forum]

Regarding beyond, is the TCG still in development? I know the whole effort is for Ow and arena but it's just to understand the future prospects thank you very much

[keen forum]

Thanks!

[cerulean quartz]

can only buy disks on seconary market

[valid sierra]

There is no TCG in development. There might be in the future.

[keen forum]

Ok, thanks for the info, hopefully they start doing this as soon as they can, if they do something similar to Gods Unchained there would be big gains for the DAO and investors for a strong use case

But apart from that, over the past year there have been a lot of improvements and right choices from the team, so in any case they will make the right choice thanks again

[fierce island]

Hopefully they don't as it would be terrible for the DAO for multiple reasons

[keen forum]

?

[fierce island]

It is what it is.

Just because you want something doesn't mean it's a good idea

[keen forum]

What are the terrible reasons for the DAO? I ask to understand

[fierce island]

Beyond isnt something you want to publicize from both a product and a price standpoint. Gives a bad look to ILV

You don't want the next game to be a card game since thats essentially what we already have. This would not attract new users to the ecosystem and would split up our already small playerbase

The game pitched was not very good anyways.

[covert ibex]

Thanks, I heard from Kieran in a recent AMA that he’d rather have no gap in between waves. No one in the council is pushing for this to happen right?

[runic glade]

no plans to monetize, i put my address on top for people to send illuvitars to, and new/fancier features might be exclusive to those who've sent something while i figure out how to scale them. it's a lot of data to go through and keep up to date/send to browsers specially with 'upgrade suggestions' where i basically kinda brute force thousands of illuvitar/accessory combos to find and display the most $/point efficient ones. so definitely mostly a labor of part time love!

[runic glade]

yeah it's a way for you to experiment with illuvitars/accessories you might not have, and see their impact on your overall album points

[cerulean quartz]

Ah yeah I always wanted that feature ... awesome!

[meager garden]

awesome work you've been doing @runic glade thank you

[frank pier]

depending on the base power anything over 3k points is good, 4k golden

[frank pier]

I'll be sending you some illuvitars this morning.....thanks again!!!

[valid sierra]

#🛒〕beyond-dex

[runic glade]

It's done, added a checkbox to display suggestions based on your existing illuvitars if you have them. also you reminded me to make mobile a bit more tolerable

[cerulean quartz]

Nice standard disk pulll !

what do you guys think about accessorizes, will they be valuble , since more will keep coming on to the market ?

[frank pier]

that is the hundred dollar question.....literally 😉
I tend to think prices for access. will continue to drift lower due to supply and limited demand as of now, but of course there won't be much new disks in a couple of weeks being minted. But I have friends here that are convinced acc. will hold their value through the whole wave 🙂

[cerulean quartz]

is it possible t pull an ultra rare card from a standard disk ?

[frank pier]

my understanding is the random slow is random so yes, people seem to be able to get a ophisto with a standard...but I wouldn't know 😉

[cerulean quartz]

do prices go up after waves end ?

[cerulean quartz]

awesome

[frank pier]

we will see...I don't remember having months between wave one and two, so this is sorta a long break if they do it...but if crypto rockets that could get nfts excited also. Best advice, hope for the best, plan for the worst 😉

should be a chance to fill in your album in the secondary market if you wait for what you want at a price that will make you happy....I personally wouldn't chase anything right now

now when the overall game becomes open (March? April?) to all and there are more players drifting through the whole ILV ecosystem I would expect some benefit to beyond

[kindred mica]

Hey everyone. Is there a TL;DR of what Beyond is all about that I can go read? I'm a Zero landowner and have been mostly focusing on that. Is Beyond just a pfp thing?

[cerulean quartz]

its a c

card game as well check eth lizards

[frank pier]

right now it's a collection game, like collecting digital pokemen. There is a leaderboard and the top 100 get ILV each week based on your album points (you can sleeve different illuvitars in different sleeves worth different points). I would expect rewards for the leaderboard to expand, but like with all things we shall see. And you can use your illuvitar as your profile pic in the game. Personally I love Beyond, much more than I expected, and I think it's a great community. If you show your wallet here I'll send you your first Illuvitar for free...like a dealer would 😉

eventually I would expect a card game but not this year for sure

[cerulean quartz]

its so addictive lol

[cerulean quartz]

so where can we see how much each person on top 100 get in terms of ILV, is it weekly? how much does number 100 get ?

[alpine dew]

.5 ILV

50-100 get .5 ILV

[cerulean quartz]

and top 50 ?

[cerulean quartz]

thanks

[frank pier]

though you have to be a certain kind of person...more land owner than pvp player perhaps lol

[cerulean quartz]

is there anyway to see all offers without clicking on to each PFP ?

[frank pier]

yes under profile click offers and there is a button to accept without pulling up the illuvitar, but you can only do one at a time

[cerulean quartz]

Ah awesome

[light epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-anime-omg-wtf-cant-unsee-gif-5159766

beyond is good, but honestly , the card game feel like a must to make beyond great. Imagine the opponent use a common doka while you whip out a holo alpha ramp or a holo blazing liquid ramp

[pastel bison]

One day the <@&814435151307866142> might let me post my CCG proposal ...

[obsidian dune]

if i were you i would just post it now

[pastel bison]

Believe me I'd like to 😛

[fathom lintel]

Hey @frosty knot the alpha disk buys are still not showing in the personal goals for wave 2, I believe you looked into this a few weeks ago, do you have an ETA of when might this be fixed?

[fathom lintel]

This looks like a nice feature! How does the algo choose the accessories it adds to these suggestions? Out of the 5 on the example you posted here, 3 has the gold fedora, 4 has the illuvium belt but 1 has neither. Why is that?

[runic glade]

it looks into your weakest accessories sleeves (vs players near your rank) and randomly shuffles some of them them around... then picks the best results it finds (decent amount of points, good $ per point value). it's a tricky thing to do cause there's so many combinations possible so kind of a work in progress. i'm working on improving the suggestions for already owned illuvitars now

[fathom lintel]

Awesome, thanks! It is indeed tricky with this many moving parts

[runic glade]

your album is not too bad, I think the suggestions from the algo are pretty good. your adoredo is your weakest sleeve but since it's expensive it doesn't even show up in the top5 suggestions

[fathom lintel]

It's not like they can do anything to you if you post it, we will protect you! 💪

[fathom lintel]

Yeah, I have my own bonding strategy I follow anyway, was just curious how it came up with these specific ones but it makes sense

[runic glade]

yea lots of different strategies possible, curious if yours is much different from what it's proposing, excluding t0s. or maybe you wanna keep it to yourself which is fine too, trying to pick peoples brains for ideas on how to improve the suggestions

[fathom lintel]

I'm just looking at it from more of a big picture view. For example, the most cost-effective way to use the more expensive accessories is not to use them on illuvials that go into 5 slots. But of course, the algo can only look at current holdings and can't know which illuvials I'm planning to upgrade before bonding, so this is not something you can build in

[frosty knot]

Asaf is addressing the Individual Stretch Goals component on the Launch Party Page now as a high priority.

He (and the other Backend guys) have been working on higher priority items right through to Christmas, however Jeremy and CS have been making noise about the impact the Individual Stretch Goals Data is causing so we shuffled some priorities since returning.

[fathom lintel]

Sounds great, thanks a lot for looking into it! 🙏

[frosty knot]

Appreciate the flexibility 🙇‍♂️ we'll get this sorted asap.

[ember ivy]

My question is how different will the card game be from arena? Arena already is more card game than auto battler in my opinion

Realistically you’re probably adding in card draw mechanic, reducing positions to 2D / in a row like Hearthstone, maybe something different with mastery points (“gold” “mana”)

[frank pier]

yeah, more like Gods Unchained I would guess

some other dynamics in that game that would be fun

and I play GU every day and would definetly switch to a beyond version

(I'd have better cards for one 😉

[ember ivy]

Yeah that’s fair, but would it differ that much from arena to justify another game? Or just tweak arena or add further game modes to arena?

Regardless, still a big fan of the collecting side of beyond

[frank pier]

I think it would be quite different...different feel...I assume arena will continue to get more complicated and fast...beyond would be for us kinder gentler folks 😉

[ember ivy]

I’d personally like to see the collecting game pushed further. Features like trading, short time bounties on pulling certain cards

[frank pier]

I could also see arena get quite expensive if they add rewards, and they could keep a beyond game more reasonable.

[frank pier]

love this idea...I don't know how the pokeman game works but be interested what twists they have also

[ember ivy]

I’m diamond in TFT and arena is a bit much for me haha. Also I find it to lack variety like TFT does every round

[frank pier]

I could defenitely see a free deck to play the beyond game...like GU does

what incentives/rewards for playing...don't know....disks?

emotes?

something free to ILV

probably not the ILV token except for big tourneys

or just eth

[ember ivy]

Yeah gotta be disks. Hearthstone had a good model. Play and earn gold and you can spend gold on packs or individual cards

[frank pier]

I like it...hell I'd do that lol

then you could sell off what you don't want

but we have to watch illuvitar delution

dilution

well, gonna be a while but I do think it is a good idea

otherwise we are just an nft play, which will run hot a cold....maybe even a bored ape type appeal of having a collection in beyond allows perks/membership

has a pretty loyal core already...I'd go to a beyond conference in person with the right perks

all wearing our fav. illuv on our shirt :0

[kindred mica]

far be it from me to turn down free stuff 😛
0x432655FEd62ba74a6bbA7168b18CF5550C579621

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[frank pier]

your free first taste of crack is on it's way 😉
Love the power and colors of this...certainly can replace Eeyore 🙂

you can try out the album process also

[wide swan]

Omnipotent Ophisto incoming

[frank pier]

I'll take it lol

and you get an ophisto, and you get an Ophisto 😉

[frosty knot]

Yessir, the Illuvium.io Website is going to be significantly improved.

Currently with the Frontend Team 🙂

Each Product will have it's own dedicated site (sub-domain) and Nav including Governance.

Quite excited for this as it's been long overdue.

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yay-shaqoneal-excited-dance-gif-8818184967646032189

[visual violet]

Yo someone buy my gold halo listed on market for $85USD

[hazy juniper]

T5S3?

[kindred mica]

Thanks!!

[visual violet]

no clue what that is sorry. im kinda new and just play cuz i liked pokemon cards as a kid and found this cool

[cerulean quartz]

when is that , cant wait ?

[cerulean quartz]

inreasted , whats the link ?

[visual violet]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/beyond/accessories?buy=true&sort=buy_quantity_with_fees%2Basc&accessoryType=Gold Halo that should be it. its the lowest listed one for $87~

[calm cedar]

@potent tulip, hope you had a lovely holiday time Do you think we can at some point be able to get Team Liquid promo sale diskplates?
#1191644953848320010

[cerulean quartz]

lemme look

[visual violet]

have you looked?

[visual violet]

I SELL CHEAPER NOW. you can negotioate i want to open disk

[cerulean quartz]

sending an offcer nwo

[visual violet]

ok

WHAT!?!

[cerulean quartz]

thats all eth i currently hae

[visual violet]

that offer is doodoo

no can do sorry

[cerulean quartz]

what price ?

[visual violet]

0.025?

[cerulean quartz]

ok 1 sec

[cerulean quartz]

sent

I never mad the other offers haha

only one

[visual violet]

arigato

[cerulean quartz]

noice

happy to help, trying to get one of each accesories , thansk !

[visual violet]

@wide swan i'd like to let you know of a bug regarding beyond offers. i am in AEST so i am well ahead of others. the time shown is that in another timezone however it gets confused. it will say 14hrs ago when the offer has just come through. just wanted to let you know i know its not that big of an issue

[hazy juniper]

Not sure what the gold halo is, is it a stage 3 accessory?

[visual violet]

ohhhh right. its a teir 5 stage 2 accessoru

[visual violet]

ive sold it already sorry if you wanted to buy

[hazy juniper]

That's allg

only interested in the stage 3

[ember ivy]

bro where are these free crack hits coming from? Hit your boy up 😄

[dire shuttle]

Guys when is the snapshot taken for the top 100 on the leaderboard is it the exact time and day each week. Cheers

[urban pawn]

It is exact time and date each week - Thursday 00:00 UTC, so 13h from now

[dire shuttle]

👍

[urban pawn]

really nice app you made. just sent you few illuvitars with matching bg that i had/you were missing. will send some more if i find them.

[runic glade]

just saw the Aapon crew you sent over awesome. I was starting to wonder when you were going to update your sleeves, it seems you've been missing out on rank 50 rewards for a while haha

[urban pawn]

ah yea, was 2 busy last month. Will probably update it 2day when i get back from work. also working on my 2nd album, it will probably hit top 100 in a month or 2. i plan to give it to my brother for his birthday. 🙂

[spare temple]

mega battle anyone?

[spare temple]

@runic glade heyo, does your new site feature factor in the collection bonuses for points gained?

[runic glade]

nope, didn't think they were significant enough. could be convinced otherwise

[spare temple]

fasho, for me it makes a big difference because for waves 1 and 2 i only have to fill one spot each and want to compare the outcomes of filling each slot first. if someone can help me with calculating the collection bonuses for wave 1 and 2 i could just add those points on manually

[runic glade]

where do you see getting bonuses for completing wave1/2?

[glossy swallow]

Have some megas and Standards. Waiting now for a battle

[spare temple]

hmm maybe it doesnt exist, thought there were bonuses for each collection completion, was going off the 'milestone' bonuses for illuvial lines

[spare temple]

mega?

[runic glade]

seems you're right, just checked and it looks like it's 3100 points for completing waves... but it's not indicated anywhere that I can see

[frosty knot]

Re: Individual Stretch Goals

We're working on updating an API for a better UX on the Launch Party Page so players can track completed goals for Wave 1, Wave 2 and Team Liquid.

Re: Collection Milestone Rewards and Completion Rewards

We're working on a significant Album Design Overhaul that will include the Milestone and Collection Rewards.

[spare temple]

awesome thanks, so will album score be impacted more by collection bonuses in the future/after the update? trying to plan out my score strat 😉

[frosty knot]

No plans to update the Milestone and Completion bonuses as far as I am aware.

[spare temple]

ok cool, just the ui/ux so they are more easily viewable/digestable?

[runic glade]

here's the data on Alexas current completion bonuses for each collection (he has the most sleeved slots)

[glossy swallow]

Anyone Standard or Mega disc Battle ?

[worldly sigil]

i can see broad analytics but is there a way to see what illuvitars as a list have sold for what amount?

[wide swan]

Rewards Distributed for 27/12/23

[stuck dune]

Price check on this one? Can't find anything similar

[frank pier]

looks about right, with background, scarcity and alpha stamp

[spare temple]

Mighta got beat this week, hopefully snapshot was at 8:05est :p

[urban stratus]

illuvialmaster marketplace -> activity

[worldly sigil]

Is this an issue?

[keen plank]

Their certificate has expired, but it doesn't necessarily mean the website is compromised or anything like that. It's just one less security measure. I believe they will fix it soon.

[worldly sigil]

Ok thanks

[urban stratus]

you dont need to connect wallet just add wallet adress on collection if you not sure..

[topaz zodiac]

The security cert didn't auto renew, for reasons unknown, and we are in the painstaking process of trying to get it renewed. Super sorry for the inconvenience and concern this is causing everyone

[sick venture]

https://tenor.com/view/fix-futurama-help-fry-fixit-gif-4525230

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/dinkleberg-fairlyoddparents-amazon-kdp-bezos-gif-9410739119947216203

[sharp sigil]

@ani_knows yes. It looks like SSL cert is expired

[frosty knot]

May I confirm, has anyone had issues using Auto-fill for the Promo Collections (GameStop & Team Liquid)?

[urban pawn]

i can't autofill those. had to do them manually

[calm cedar]

Please guys, let's vote this up a bit. I'm very positive people want this and it's just staying under the radar - #1191644953848320010

[wooden ice]

Don't really see how you would fairly define parameters to be eligible for those. Also don't think it would be cost effective to add another "incentive" without being able to reap the rewards (aka sale ended). Additionally, TL promo didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth when opening. Quite the opposite. And on top of that we got the emotes and skin(s).

[calm cedar]

Feel free to comment inside the thread. I'll be fine with purchasing something like this, as I would a regular d1skplate. And if we keep making them they can be something people keep buying.

And I think we did GS ones designed in a way in which suggests we are going to see more of them.

[trim aurora]

I can’t fill 1 of mine manually (liquid)

[plush drum]

Anyone up for some d1sk battles?

[urban pawn]

10x standard? any1?

[glossy swallow]

5sx Standard waiting now

[urban pawn]

ready now

[blissful bloom]

Is it okay to set my illivitars to albums?

Do they dissapear? Do the rank reset?or something?

[urban pawn]

it is ok to set them there. nothing happens to them

[blissful bloom]

How can you battle?

Ngl, i used to hate on beyond, but now it hooked me and it's pretty cool 😂

[urban pawn]

yea, kind of addictive, i was afraid to start since i knew how it would end up...still ended up doing it

[urban pawn]

you battle through battle in the beyond (3rd party ''game"). it is basically just a glorified disk opening to see who has more luck

[blissful bloom]

Oh, ok, thanks

What is the alpha thing on illuvitars? Is it important?

[tepid geyser]

Illuviums version of a 1st edition stamp. More relevant to collectors.
If you are just going after leaderboard, it isn't important at all as it adds no benefit.

[cerulean quartz]

what does repating reward mean ? in regards to 2 x disks ?

[lime axle]

These have never auto-filled for me, they are the only two that don't

[cerulean quartz]

@frosty knot What does repating reward mean ? in regards to 2 x disks ? Can i also ask if the wave 2 arena skins are limited ?

thanks !

repeating rewards

[fathom lintel]

The only repeating reward is the 2 wave 3 mega disks for buying 25 disks. This reward repeats for every 25 additional disk you buy. For example, you get 2 more when you buy 50 disks, 2 more when you buy 75 etc.

[cerulean quartz]

AH great and are the arena wave 2 skins limited ?

[fathom lintel]

You mean the battle board skin? Yes, this is the only way to get them.

[cerulean quartz]

yes awesome !

[urban stratus]

anyone up for standard or mega battle?

[plush drum]

Let's do it!!

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-the-rock-rock-go-rock-lets-go-lg-gif-18455293

Hani your win rate is crazy good

[urban stratus]

sorryyy

[plush drum]

No worries I got a bunch

[urban stratus]

lets was in the zero tone

zone*

again? 😄

[plush drum]

I got a 3x up

[urban stratus]

my standards are gone

have mega still

[plush drum]

Lemme get a Mega. I'll do one with you. I have been spending on standards

[urban stratus]

gg

[plush drum]

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-ouch-ouch-baby-oof-pain-gif-15786783

[tepid geyser]

Pardon my french, but that is just fucking incredible!! Amazing work!!

[frank pier]

you could see this in scifi movie

[urban pawn]

@still herald i was expecting you get atleast 1 t5 accesory, but i guess t4s3 still counts 🙂

[still herald]

oh well 🙂 .. i'll have to be satisfied with the Cigar 😄 .. GG

[urban pawn]

btw battle going on

youll time out

[still herald]

weird i didn't get a sound queue .. and it seemed it froze .. sorry about that

[urban pawn]

now you didn't see me pull particle tattoo 😄

[still herald]

wow congrats ! 🙂

i can't see the battle on the Beyond page

[urban pawn]

nono, i got few good accessories, had better luck than when you were active 😛

2xt4s1 and one t5s1. i'm happy with that 🙂

[arctic bloom]

hi all, how do I claim the free d1sks for my activity from first wave? Im owed a mega d1sk and normal... was told before theyd be airdropped but ithey werent

[still herald]

weird enough i don't even see what i got from the disks in my account also (illuvidex)

[urban pawn]

they should have been airdropped long time ago. If you didn't received it, white a ticket to support

[royal urchin]

Mine just appeared (a long time ago), i know because i kept count

[outer creek]

@meager garden Apologies I stuffed up and listed Ryplance #628785 - can I buy it back please? DM me if its easier.

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[meager garden]

haha this is a first, sure I'll sell it back

[cerulean quartz]

worst pull ever ! lol

[past tundra]

He could have not been winking. But the wink is super trolly in this disk.

[urban pawn]

amateur! 😛

[frank pier]

looks like my pulls but I would have downgraded to a clown nose

[slender jetty]

atleast its a winking LOL

[slender jetty]

oh, not first but still funny lol

[pseudo pagoda]

I open disk just out side of the odds of hiting a nice score saving it for big win in future

[cerulean quartz]

So 2000 base power and up is good ? 2500 and up...very good ?

[mossy turtle]

depends on the illuvitar, tier and stage
2000 is very good for a T1S1

[weak jetty]

so how do i unsubscribe from all the spam email

[cerulean quartz]

Ah ok ...but in general 2000 is good even if stage 5 ?

[mossy turtle]

It it not that simple no, if you look at Tier 2 Stage 3, holo lynxes, it it not uncommon to get one with 2000 power, so i would not consider it "good" in the sense of dollar value if that is what you are asking for

its not all about power

[cerulean quartz]

I see thanks

[past tundra]

You mean the scammers? They’ve got your address they want to steal your money. The scammers are not going to stop.

[glossy swallow]

Anyone up for Standard Battle ?

[onyx briar]

Just wanted to give a quick heads up to anyone using illuvialmaster. We are going to be having a bit of down time here shortly to try and resolve the SSL cert. Sorry for any inconvenience.

[slender jetty]

glad to hear youre getting it back up and running properly. Its been a great help

[urban stratus]

wow

got lucky pulls in standard

[topaz zodiac]

lolz the gods heard him - The site is back to normal everyone!

[scenic frigate]

hi guys, does anyone know on illuvidex under <account> <account balance> it displays "other tokens". does anyone know where to check which "other tokens" are there on illuvidex?

[slender jetty]

check over on imx

[scenic frigate]

thx for your answer, that was actually very smart 😆

found it

[remote saddle]

what happened to banshee my offers look so much cleaner lol

[rare mica]

@still herald lets go agin fast 🙂 nice 20% Tatto -_-

[cerulean quartz]

whats the lowest card power you supposed to get in a mega disk ?

[urban pawn]

125 for standard spot
1450 for rare spot

if we are talking about wave 2 mega disc

[cerulean quartz]

I dont think megas are worth the price

[past tundra]

I find that most higher priced things are not a financial value but are an experiential value. The trade off is time and the quality of your time is spent.

[cerulean quartz]

you mean in opening loads of disks ? Just to confirm you can get the highested ranking card in a standard pu ll ?

[past tundra]

Yeah. Odds are very different but yeah. The draw rates seem pretty complicated to me but they are well documented in public articles.

[cerulean quartz]

but its like 5.5 x more chacne wiht standard plus all the accesorires

sorry for the typo lol

[past tundra]

Not just the time of opening. But the time of sifting through things to keep or not. What to use or not.

[cerulean quartz]

plus the goal rewards

[past tundra]

Oh yeah. That’s massive.

Which is why there were certainly a higher number of standards purchased this wave.

[cerulean quartz]

i think the area skins are going to be worth a load

arena

yeah

[cerulean quartz]

what are the top three rarest characters in wave 2 ?

[past tundra]

Honestly, I don’t know. But my guess is ophisto, rhamphy, something else t5

Maybe not rhamphy anymore. Extras minted from Team Liquid disks.

illuvialmaster.com will probably have the answers

[meager garden]

ophisto, synalph and umbre

[past tundra]

144 Ophistos. 428 Synalphs. 782 Umbre.

Just got that from illuvialmaster

[cerulean quartz]

Thanks

[past tundra]

I was interested to see if they had source data. Meaning what type of disk an illuvitar was pulled from. But I did not see that available. I believe it is out there though.

[runic glade]

it's on the illuvidex under "origin" at the bottom

[still herald]

Hey guys .. sorry for the pings and slight off-topic but i need a bit of help from you ( @young tide @royal urchin @tepid geyser @vague void @gilded sage @normal steeple @topaz zodiac @delicate delta @wide swan @languid star @hazy juniper @remote saddle apologies but i couldn't include everyone here)
I'm asking mostly people i've done trades with in the past can you please give me a vote of confidence as if our trades went as agreed?
A person i want to make a trade with wants to be reassured i'm the real Torrex 🙂
Thank you very much!

[remote saddle]

Deal with Torrex went smoothly, would trade again

[vague void]

All trades with Torrex went a o k!

[valid sierra]

He probably got muted for pinging all those people tho

[still herald]

yeah i 😄 did.. i had no clue this can happen ... thank God we have nice moderators! Thank you and it won't happen again i promise! 😄

[covert ibex]

Now you got us curious and want to know what this trade is all about

[still herald]

I'll let you know after it happens! 😄

[cerulean quartz]

So when is wave 3 ? Sometime in Q1 ?

[covert ibex]

Asked about this a few days ago. I got no clear answer

[remote saddle]

No during Open Beta sso most likely Q2 no more waves for a bit

[covert ibex]

Kieran mentioned on a recent chat with Scoriox (on YT) that he wanted no gap in between waves but schedule has not changed (Q2) and no discussion that I know of has taken place

[royal urchin]

Hey, done a lot of trades with you, always had a 100% confidence in @still herald! Trustworthy and a pleasure to deal with. 👍

[still herald]

Thank you so much ! I would def say the same!

[junior socket]

Didn’t want to miss out on the signed Squizz d1skplate. 🫶🏻 Didn’t want the drone skin without earning the matching ranger skin... And here we are. 😅 Would be cool to know how many have completed the Wave 1 & Wave 2 goals

[midnight prism]

damn beyond free leaderboard rank 51 is 184points and rank 50 212 xD nearly 30 disks for one rank

at least in standard i get one elemental lizard hope they are good

[stray wasp]

Hey, I went into my Illuvium account and it said I could mint my blueprints. I started minting them and everything seemed great. I left the page to do something else and when I came back all of the items I minted were reset and back to avail for mint. But I just minted them? When I tried to re-mint them, it gave me a validation error. Please assist. Seems glitchy.

[covert ibex]

They are minting and will appear on IMX soon (1/2 hrs max). Same thing happened to me

[stray wasp]

Ok, makes sense. Thank you for that!

[junior socket]

Took closer to 6 hrs for me with one of my plots but yea, just give it time.

[stray wasp]

I only have 15 blueprints. How many did you guys get?

[midnight prism]

btw is something bugged with the goals i though i had more?

[wide swan]

Deals with @still herald all went as planned

[meager garden]

they are yes

[midnight prism]

wtf how to know then?

[meager garden]

it's just visually, hopefully it will get fixed soon

[midnight prism]

yeah but sale ends in 10 days maybe only a few left for next goal

[meager garden]

send a ticket to support asking how many you've bought already, the info is on chain

[wide swan]

It’s getting fixed as well

[fathom lintel]

If you remember how many alphas you bought, add those to the current number. Alphas are missing from the count currently

[midnight prism]

have no idea anymore but try to find it on immutscan

[slender jetty]

any news about the winners of #JohnnysVeryBeyondChristmas

[cerulean quartz]

15 for each plot

[pastel bison]

#JohnnysVeryBeyondChristmas winners are in!
https://twitter.com/JohnnyILV/status/1743748545260470668

Unbonded

1st
@RamzaILV with https://twitter.com/RamzaILV/status/1737986792538743097

2nd
@CambosNewLambo with https://twitter.com/CambosNewLambo/status/1738375181570105417

3rd

@0xAstroBee with https://twitter.com/0xAstroBee/status/1738379873893351610

Bonded

1st
@vexillariuss with https://twitter.com/vexillariuss/status/1738040125177938154

2nd
@brucestoise with https://twitter.com/brucestoise/status/1738367503867527602

3rd
@positivityILV with https://twitter.com/positivityILV/status/1738111820785709206

Under $100

1st
@RamzaILV with https://twitter.com/RamzaILV/status/1737986792538743097

2nd
@B_J wtih https://twitter.com/B_J/status/1738298748726657102

3rd
@GlitchYeti with https://twitter.com/GlitchYeti/status/1738035764674662825

Special Mentions (2 D1sks each)
(Added a new category as these were cool)

@PiggyBankBR with https://twitter.com/PiggyBankBR/status/1738088683146989584

@Taurus4759 with https://twitter.com/Taurus4759/status/1739405024210407777

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Double congrats to @teal sluice with two firsts for this beauty which ticked every box for me:

[dreamy raven]

Legend 🔥

[slender jetty]

NO WAY!!! 2nd place baby! Thanks so much @pastel bison

[pastel bison]

Note: @slender jetty You need to follow me on twitter so I can message you to confirm address.

Same applies for some others.

[pastel bison]

This is not official competition lets not pin it.

😛

[junior socket]

Any chance we’ll see some nice updates to Album functionality? Would be nice to be able to unsleeve more than one Illuvitar at a time. As far as I’m aware that’s still not an option. And separately, an option to update an entire set with the highest powered Illuvitars you own. Having to go one at a time to recheck each sleeve and update them gets cumbersome as our collections get bigger.

[solid gorge]

😢

[royal urchin]

Congrats to the winners of Johnnys very beyond christmas.. some amazing looking illuvitar entries. Thanks for the fun comp @pastel bison . 👏

[burnt ferry]

Can someone Send my reward List for leaderbord Rank

[slender jetty]

done and done! sorry about that

[tepid geyser]

I'm probably a little too late here but I am happy to vouch also. Trades went smoothly 👍

[slender jetty]

first opened 🔥

[still herald]

Not at all. Thank you!

[slender jetty]

solid second

[errant laurel]

Looking for a holo slashin if anyone would be willing to sell for FMV according to Illuvial Master.

[teal sluice]

Thanks!! I love them also. Got 2 of them on d1sk plates... unfortunately, won't get the third because I had to pay 220 dollars in tax for those 2 lol.

[past tundra]

I’m not certain what you mean. But…
Here’s a list of rewards distributions. #🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

[sharp sigil]

I will message you

[hazy juniper]

Yes they went well. I'd recommend using an intermediary for all trades no matter what. Find a person you both agree is trustworthy and use them as escrow. On imx there's no gas so very little reason not to do it

[ionic stratus]

What are the odds of BITB battling someone with TL disks?

[ionic stratus]

Okay I get the message. 🪦

[spare temple]

haha, just depends on your time frame

[dreamy raven]

I can do 2

[ionic stratus]

Bit late but I’ll be ready to open in like 10 mins if ya still keen

[dim dove]

@ionic stratus Mega or Standard d1sk?

[ionic stratus]

I’ve only really got team liquid disks atm

[dim dove]

yeh k

[ionic stratus]

No good?

[dim dove]

nah got no promos =/

[ionic stratus]

Fair. You on a Leaderboard mission?

[dim dove]

lol yeh pretty much..

[dreamy raven]

Didn't see it, sry. I am rdy if you want

[ionic stratus]

Okay I’m ready to go if you are 🫶🫶🫶

❤️

Thank you sir Johnny

It feels a bit rude holding two of these. I think I opened 6 disks total 😅😅🤔🤔

[valid sierra]

I agree, you can just send one to me

[mild snow]

Hello guys in order to start the game do i have to own both a disk and a illuvitar or only an illuvitar?

[ionic stratus]

Neither. Illuvitars are just in-game PFPs. You just need to download it from the Epic Games store to play the arena.

[mild snow]

I have played the arena but what about the p2e part

from the store etc

actually the thing i wanna ask is if i can recieve illuvitars f2p and then sell them at the marketplace

from the arena causal

[valid sierra]

Illuvitars are profile pictures

[mild snow]

so its not like i can collect something and then sell it

[valid sierra]

Not in the current state, game is still in beta and not on chain

[mild snow]

so each game that is on a beta stage does not include any p2e feature yet im i correct?

its like a training stage for the games

[urban pawn]

yes, you can't earn from the game yet.

OB is somewhere in Q2, and than p2e aspect will be unlocked.

until then it would be good to get yourself familiar with basic mechanics and the way game works

also, try asking support for some overworld access keys, because there is where you will be collecting those illuvials that are going to be used in arena.

[mild snow]

i can play overworld rn should i asc for more keys?

[urban pawn]

no, you are good. Taught u can't play overworld yet.

[mild snow]

np mate thanks for the info

[languid star]

💯 🫱🏼‍🫲🏽

[topaz zodiac]

Anyone for a few standard BITB?

[bleak crown]

danggg we're only missing 2 perfect liquid illuvials

[remote saddle]

Wonder if they will added to the misprints

[bleak crown]

i may be wrong but didnt they ditch the misprint idea after Wave 1?

[remote saddle]

No i thought they dealayed it after each set now instead of waves

Since there wasnt too many of them

[frosty knot]

Correct yeah, given there was so few it was a better move to hold fire and work on other things for the immediate short-term

Once there is a strong reason to commit the resource to delivering misprints, it will be done

[remote saddle]

Nick will the promos also fall under misprints?

[frosty knot]

I'd need to double check, but I don't believe so.

[pastel bison]

@tidal adder yours is the last prize awaiting distribution for #JohnnysVeryBeyondChristmas ... can you please follow me on twitter so I can connect via DM to confirm wallet address/twitter account.

(assuming this is the same person called Amino on twitter)

[tidal adder]

Hey Johnny, Dope!! Sorry I've been away. Will do so shortly!!

[pastel bison]

All good, there's no real rush other than its just nice to close it out.

(Actually just realised I'm missing someone else)

[tidal adder]

Just followed you and very grateful for this prize 🙂

[dim dove]

Battle anyone?

[dim dove]

@still herald woot holos 😛

[still herald]

nice 😄

[dim dove]

total score wasnt great though lol

got a mega?

only got 1 more standard and 2 megas

[still herald]

no megas... i will queue up for that standard if you still want to

[dim dove]

sure

[still herald]

GG.. thks for the battles 🙂

[dim dove]

thank you.. GG 🫡

[plush drum]

Anyone for Standard battles?

[cerulean quartz]

Quick question does silv2 burn ilv every time it's used ?

If that makes sense

[pine crag]

It's burned at the time you mint silv2 instead of ilv.
But circulating supply of silv2 will be decreased once it's used.

This is great as the less silv2 spent the more revenue distribution.

[cerulean quartz]

But most of us use silv2 as it's cheaper

[cerulean quartz]

Not talking about minting silv2 but rather when it's used

[pine crag]

Yes of course and as long as the price of silv2 will be much lower than ILV this will be the case.

[dim dove]

anyone for mega battle?

[hazy juniper]

sILV2 is burnt when used in the ecosystem. But it doesnt actually burn out ILV. When sILV2 is minted the equivalent ILV is never to be minted

ILV is effectively burnt at the time of minting

[meager garden]

@runic glade love the "Crimes Against Illuvitars" section gave me a laugh

[dim dove]

any takers for a mega d1sk battle?

[dim dove]

lol i just found the link you mentioned 🤣

[meager garden]

he's been killin it with his website

[dim dove]

how do you get a Heart and activate the upgrade suggestions?

[wispy notch]

hi, how much was the mint cost for standard disk non alpha, wave 1 set 1 ?

[meager garden]

you donate any illuvitar to the address on top

[wispy notch]

and mega disk also if somebody has the info 🙂 ?

[dim dove]

check news? https://illuvium.io/news

this even https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-beyond-set-1-wave-one-buyers-guide

[wispy notch]

thanks 🙂 found it

0.005 and 0.025

[dim dove]

that may have been non alpha price..

[wispy notch]

yeah for non alpha

[tepid geyser]

Hehehe. One of mine made it to the list 🙈
In my defense it was already bonded when I purchased it 😅

[dim dove]

lol.. pretty sure I have a few that should be on the list.. and I didnt purchase them bonded 😬 🫣 😆

[meager garden]

just kidding you know we love ya @tepid geyser

[valid sierra]

[meager garden]

we love u 2 Fraggy don't be jealous

[pseudo crown]

Gyro might be in wave 3

[meager garden]

lookin sick yo 👌🏼

[slender jetty]

any news on the dequest rewards if you won? Was in their discord and they said they sent the winning list to Illuvium but thats all I got from them

[cerulean quartz]

quick question....will leader board rewards be on going forever

?

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22827303

[runic glade]

luckily it seems we learned our lesson and no wave 2 illuvitars made the list

[cerulean quartz]

Are rewards for being in top 100 ongoing forever ?

[cerulean quartz]

Are rewards for being in top 100 ongoing forever ?

@mossy turtle so are they ?

you put thumbs down then up so not sure haha

[serene python]

Nothing lasts forever

[cerulean quartz]

I mean as long as game is active

leaderboard beyond ect

[cerulean quartz]

human souls last forever 🙂

[mossy turtle]

A dao is what a dao does

[cerulean quartz]

what does that mean haha, just want to know if rewards for those in top 100 are currently ongoing ?

[mossy turtle]

they are ongoing

[serene python]

For now

[cerulean quartz]

ah cool, thanks

[cerulean quartz]

but community could vote to change this ?

But unlikey they would I assume

[serene python]

Council could vote to Change this

[cerulean quartz]

Ah cool

[runic glade]

ty for the hot gs doka . am surprised the program came up with some upgrades for you, wasn't meant to work properly for the top 5ish players though so I'll have to tweak it at some point

[mossy turtle]

Yes, but i would not see that as something that would likely happen for a long time

[cerulean quartz]

btw does the autofill on album do a good job of filling it in the best way? thanks

[mossy turtle]

I dont trust these technologies, so i do it by hand.
So im the wrong person to awnser

[vapid imp]

idk holding land for 2.5 years kinda feels like forever for some reason 🤣

[cerulean quartz]

Anyone else use the auto fill ?

[cerulean quartz]

lolz, pretty sure forever is quite a bit longer, but I am not scientist 🙂

[sly hornet]

Used it a while ago and it was doing a fairly good job. Then again, the last time, I did mostly by hand lol. Nowadays, since everything is mostly sleeved already, I use @runic glade website to make sure I'm not forgetting any illuvitars. It does an amazing job once your illuvitars are already sleeved.

[cerulean quartz]

awesome do you have the link please ?

[vapid imp]

Ye it was a joke because a few weeks turned into a few years.

guess there most have been a proposal for when the rewards was voted in, would actually be interesting to see what it says, since wording seems to matter a lot

[sly hornet]

hmmm bot won't let me post the link. Pretty sure we can find it higher up in this channel. Otherwise, I can send it via dm

[cerulean quartz]

yes please that would be great

cool

[slender jetty]

bump. itching for another free Holo Blazing Rhamphy

[cerulean quartz]

Iam trying to set up my albuam and I would love to hear some tips or feeback from others, regarding bonding ect and choose the right ones to bond, can anyone share what they have learned so far , thanks !

[fathom lintel]

Effective bonding is a fairly complex topic. My suggestion is look at the leaderboard tool Boyo just showed you. There, you can see the collection value of each person. Look for collectors with low collection value who are high on the leaderboard - they are using their resources well. Check their albums, see what's the base power of illuvials they bonded, what accessories they used and if you have the same or higher power illuvial in your collection, you can start with bonding those. Also depends on if you aim for top 100 or top 50, you can get away with bonding cheaper for top 100.

[cerulean quartz]

just like top 75 or so, cool thanks

[meager garden]

a good rule of thumb I use is to match the illuvitar cost to the sum of the accessories I put in it
as for the more expensive accessories if you're not aiming to be top of the top you only need to bond 2 or 3 illuvitars with the best accessories to fill that accessory slot

[cerulean quartz]

cool thanks

[meager garden]

btw guys ain't nobody needing a smoking pipe? My funds got drained with all the accepted bids
#🛒〕beyond-dex message

[cerulean quartz]

2 or 3 good ones like 2500 or over ?

[meager garden]

yeah, those will be the best in ur collection filling the most slots

[cerulean quartz]

cheers

[sly hornet]

Another thing to keep in mind for top efficiency is how many slots can be filled by your illuvitar that you want to bond to. For instance, an illuvitar that has a little bit less total power but goes in 7-8 sleeve might be more efficient than an illuvitar that has more power but only goes in 5 sleeve. Then you also have backgrounds etc. Like Doooom said, bonding for efficiency can be quite complex 😉

[cerulean quartz]

I seee

thanks

[dreamy raven]

You Can use @calm cedar software (see his bio) sleeves everything for max power automatically (and no signing from MetaMask needed)

[cerulean quartz]

Really ?

Awesome so helpful

thanks all

[dreamy raven]

🙌🏻

[cerulean quartz]

so on github ?

[dreamy raven]

Yeah

Download, use, everything is optimized. It’s magic 🙌🏻

[cerulean quartz]

ILVAlbumOptimizer.7z

this ?

[dreamy raven]

Seems correct 👍🏻

[cerulean quartz]

and then when you log in its just all in the correct best folders, wow, thanks a heap it does sound magic!

[frank pier]

and for the high value sleeves you only need one of three slots to be of high power, so I usually chose the lowest cost one to ramp up, knowing the higher value have more resale potential unbonded. And I would put accessories, if you have a ton, on all the zeros as they have more limited long-term value to being in each wave and can really add up, even at 1k points an illuv. (the exception being rare holos).

ps and ramp up backgrounds before bonding

[past tundra]

Wow. What a black sheep. He’s looking to the left.

[calm cedar]

I'm goin' to bed. But if you have any questions/issues ping me.

[cerulean quartz]

Fab thanks so much !

[cerulean quartz]

yeah i was thinking the same to bond lots of low value ones wiht low value bonds

[urban pawn]

depends on how high you want to shoot at, and how long you intend to stay there. Bonding lower valued ones can keep you in top 100 for some time, but eventually you will have to start bonding higher valued ones if you want to stay there. also, keep in mind that accessories do cost, and that cost does adds up even if you only pay few cents for accessories. also, bonding lowest tier accessories might not be best idea...eventually those bonded illuvials will become obsolete and you will not only have to buy them again from marketplace, but also buy them newer, stronger accessories if you want those sweet weekly rewards to keep pouring in.
My point is, work you your strategy before committing to bonding. put on paper how much would it cost you, and what you expect to gain from it. and if all math check out, go for it. Good luck! 🙂

[cold vale]

Ok, I’ll be first. Art looks weird, I don’t like it. But , hope I’ll change my opinion very soon)

[meager garden]

I have to agree, it's the stage I like the least

[mossy turtle]

That is per design, stage 1 are supposed to be cute/funny, stage 2 underwhelming, and stage 3 awesome
I believe

[meager garden]

caradulo kills it tho

[mossy turtle]

I think the same about teeanee, but after we get carablu and cardulox i hope we think the same about caradulo 😛

[meager garden]

hope so, I really like the bull line

[mossy turtle]

@frosty knot
Is this supposed to be there?
Geyyser rare expression

[frosty knot]

I'd think not, @twin mural @potent tulip @barren bobcat

[mossy turtle]

Allright, and while we are at it, what about this?

[hazy juniper]

Stage 2's always look awkward as hell

U see Kukkulus?

Or Axon

@rancid bison Axon is my least favourite Illuvitar so far

Fight me

[rancid bison]

Men have died for saying things like that

[astral ermine]

its the best from wave 1

[remote saddle]

Really?! Dammm i thought this was dope and to me the ramphy looks weird lol

[light epoch]

This better not delay the hand sign squizz diskplate. beta4 delay is fine

Hopefully nick doesnt shadow drop the cardgameplay on Illum beyond , my heart cant take this

[young tide]

Wondering what utility will they add

[light epoch]

What if it plus stat to the illuvial if we own it, that would be crazy. Like a holo ramphyre would boost stat of Ramphyre in arena by 5%

[tepid geyser]

Wouldn't that make it pay to win though?
I'm not sure they are hinting at added utility, more focusing on current utility that at the moment is not highlighted very well on the current website.

[light epoch]

oh yeah, p2w is bad. Utility that only stay on beyond is better

[frosty knot]

Just checked out @flint kelp 's design overhaul for Beyond

Rogier is spot on there with that comment, much needed 🙂

[hazy juniper]

Yall see the comments below it

all haters lmao

@potent tulip under fire

pew pew

[hazy juniper]

Overhaul for Albums or something else?

[frosty knot]

Proximity hates himself most of all.

[light epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/ultraman-trigger-ultraman-trigger-ultraman-trigger-new-generation-tiga-new-generation-tiga-gif-22784029

pew pew

[hazy juniper]

🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[hazy juniper]

I need to go back and continue the Anime, was actually loving it

[hasty grotto]

knew johnny was gonna go for the colour matched entries 😉

[meager garden]

anyone can search for items by their name in the profile page?
seems bugged to me...

[urban stratus]

GS disks dont count as promo disks on battle in the beyond?

[dim dove]

not sure, maybe a question for the EthLizard discord? on another note Solo D1sk opening is now available on BitB.. 😎

[urban stratus]

theres a seperate discord? thanks gonna join there lol. I think it's wave 1/2 thing.

[pine crag]

Love your pfp!

[urban stratus]

thanks mate for sure my favorite Illuviatior I opened 🙂

[meager garden]

so... Am I the only one not able to search by name?

[royal urchin]

same

[urban stratus]

while bonding highest power filter also dissapeared...

[meager garden]

guess the devs need to take a look at it @frosty knot

[fathom lintel]

Try the filter with the first letter being capital - Atlas. It has to be the exact name you are searching for. For example, it has to be Holo Atlas if you want to see those, a normal Atlas search will not show holos. It's not very user friendly but it works that way.

[meager garden]

ooh I see the filter is Caps sensitive, ty @fathom lintel

[dreamy cipher]

hmmm leaderboard rewards go out yet?

[meager garden]

maybe gas fees 2 high to pay 🤣

[frosty knot]

Gas is 3x the previous average price paid for this txn so Chris is waiting a moment. 🙂

[meager garden]

you should start paying on the weekends, always the lowest fees

[untold slate]

Battle in the Beyond Updates

Now you can open multiple D1SKs outside of the battlefield!
We have just launched our newest feature, Solo D1SK opening in version 0.4.0!

**Illuvium Wave 2 D1SK sales end on January 15th! **
If you want more D1SKs from this wave, you'd better get them now!

**Battle in the Beyond Season 0 Leaderboards will continue until January 31st. **
Leaderboard prizes will be airdropped after the season ends. More details to come soon.
*D1SKs can still be battled/opened in BITB beyond this date, but won't count towards the season leaderboard

[frank pier]

starting this weekend 😉

[meager garden]

if they payed double this weekend to not delay it much would be awesome
some more ending wave disks would be bought 😛

[past tundra]

#✍〕rules do not allow advertising.

https://tenor.com/view/issa-joke-its-a-joke-im-joking-gif-7246089

[dreamy cipher]

Valid

[frosty knot]

https://etherscan.io/tx/0x208811a703ef8475ebf32b8ee31a48e20cb436915dad12bc9f6fc5138b11b2c3

Sent

[sharp sigil]

Scrolling through endless low offers from Banshee feels like a time drain. Wouldn't it be great if we could customize offer acceptance parameters?

[remote saddle]

or at least not have it default to 10%

[meager garden]

if there were more ppl making bids he wouldn't be the top bidder and would force him to raise his bids

I for instance contribute a bit for that, he gives me alot of work not gonna lie

[cerulean quartz]

hi there, can i send disks to another wallet to open ?
I sent a few disks to another wallet and they wont open, it says users does not own disk
Surley they are NFT you can send them to any wallet ?
⚠ Validation Error: Current user is not the owner of this asset @meager garden

[cerulean quartz]

haha indeed

[meager garden]

yes ofc you can send them, what's the address? you can check on immutascan for the transaction

[cerulean quartz]

its ok let me try log in and out that sometimes helps

thansk

[tepid geyser]

Usually happens when you're signed in under a different wallet ID.
Just need to make sure you are logged out everwhere before logging in with your different wallet to open disks.

[sick dock]

its the "Cobaltanium Ranger Suit Skin
750 D1SKs"

gone be a nft wich can be sold ?

[tepid geyser]

I believe so.
Album collection rewards are account bound.

[fathom frigate]

how many ophistos (holo and non) were officially minted?

[tepid geyser]

145 total, 3 holo. So far. Still some time left for more.

[signal flower]

Any way to tell what the best Ophisto minted is, in terms of stats?

[meager garden]

which stats? power? rarity?

you can sort by power on illuvialmaster

[sick dock]

how can i unlink my wallet from illuvial master ? i know its safe but would like to unlinkit

[urban stratus]

sorting would also help, or something like decline button

[keen plank]

Once you close the website tab, the wallet is disconnected; this applies to any site. If you've signed a contract and wish to undo it, there are some websites, such as revoke.cash , for example.

[topaz zodiac]

You can disconnect in the upper-right corner, click on where your wallet number is

[worldly star]

i can't unlist my itens, can i resolve?

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x844a2a2b4c139815c1da4bdd447ab558bb9a7d24/916949

this, says is not my item

Error
Current user is not the owner of this asset

For further assistance, please visit our support page.

[topaz zodiac]

often times I can get this error ot resolve by logging out and relogging back in

[worldly star]

dont't resolves

[weary mist]

Is there actually any tool which helps me to list/sell several illuvitars at once?

[topaz zodiac]

I'd submit a ticket to the help center then :p They're pretty quick with responses

[topaz zodiac]

Illuvialmaster has a bulk list option

though you still have to sign for each item

[weary mist]

puh 😄 662 sleeved and 3161 in total.... thats gonna be a lot of signing if i ever want to sell the remaining 2499

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/oprah-gif-19376830

[livid bramble]

I have a transfer of sILV2 onto IMX sitting for 12 hours for Approve sILV2 spending cap. Anyone else experienced this? I tried speeding up transaction to no effect.

[still herald]

Yep happened to me a few times. Try to clear your activity from Metamask and retry (Settings -> Advanced -> Clear activity tab data; take note this will clear your transaction history) or contact IMX support - they usually reply pretty fast

[livid bramble]

Muchos Gracias Sir Torrex! 🙏🏻

[livid bramble]

Very strange - I did a test ETH transfer and it was fast. Tried the sILV2 again and it progressed to a Pending Deposit but is stuck at this point... I checked the Token contract and its the right one. Not sure why the bridging of sILV2 doing this - I will reach out to IMX.

[past tundra]

What does etherscan say?

[urban stratus]

if its a deposit transfer and you can still see the amount in meta mask make another deposit without canceling the first. I think it costs gas again but atleast it gets transfered. mine gets stuck alot gonna try the cache thing next time thx for that 🙂

[past tundra]

Is it possible that there’s not a high enough approval limit?

[ionic stratus]

Any theories on the changes to Illuvium Beyond? Kieran mentioned that it will incentivise people bonding illuvitars?

[tepid geyser]

I can only think that maybe they will begin offering album completion rewards for bonded collections.
So maybe there is a reward for simply completing the collection, a better reward for then having the full collection bonded and then maybe the ultimate prize for fully bonding a complete holo collection.
Complete speculation of course, I have no idea what is coming.

[frank pier]

And on @hazy juniper youtube show today they talked about a big upgrade to beyond, including the art. I'm glad they aren't neglecting the golden goose 🙂

[frosty knot]

@barren bobcat has sworn me to secrecy, but god damn

[frank pier]

shh...just leak one now...no one else is watching......

and any guess on when wave 3 will start?

[remote saddle]

He has to say that... he doesnt really mean it

[frosty knot]

As it stands, IMC have discussed mid to late Q2

We want Open Beta launched prior to another wave. However, there is on-going discussion on this topic

[frank pier]

But Kieran would like it sooner, yes?

[frosty knot]

Me also, because we have a big partner ready to rock and roll and may be a win if we do get a bullmarket.

[frank pier]

good to know

so good promo disks coming

[remote saddle]

yahhh 4+ months seems way too long to go withou illuvitars

[frank pier]

and don't change a thing from TL promo but an upgrade in level of access.

no more clown noses

lol

[frank pier]

a month? fine. Two if we must, 3-4 is too long

there will be more waves, and the promo will be 3 months after wave 3 is launched, won't it?

should time out, esp. if eth etf is launched

and the fed cuts rates

[remote saddle]

Yah and if open beta launches during wave 3 seems like perfect timing to me

[frank pier]

really don't want both happening launching exactly same time anyway

give us a month head start 🙂

[fathom lintel]

I feel like the timing of wave 3 might warrant another community vote. I was on the townhall where we basically voted to delay it until open beta, however, back then open beta was scheduled for Q1. Since then, we obviously had another delay and I think most people would agree now that 3-4 months is too long between waves.

[frosty knot]

I think it's worthwhile making noise about it, yes

[frank pier]

and people will be lost in open beta, not looking at beyond for quite a time

If you can collect nft illuvials you will be doing that not buying illuvitars

makes sense for the whole ecosytem to do it by ides of March

and expand leaderboard payout, at least by 50 at .25 ILV to keep people striving for the leaderboard

so up to 150 people getting some incentive

[hazy juniper]

Send me plz

[frank pier]

we know you'll leak it 😉

[royal anvil]

This definitely a topic imc is looking into.

To the beyond players here I would like to ask your sentiment on this. As mentioned by nick the previous position was to not release a wave before open beta. But since open beta is slated for q2 this puts beyond on an awkward position.

[frank pier]

nice video today, and tsg is settling into his role also

[hazy juniper]

Hey I haven't dropped the ball once

[frank pier]

we count on it...why I watch lol

[hazy juniper]

It should never have been delayed at all, that was a huge mistake

It should be released within 1 week of Wave 2 ending

[frank pier]

or at least a month

[hazy juniper]

I also said Jan 15 for end of Wave 2 was a mistake and if u really didnt want Wave 3 then u shoulda extended Wave 2 further

[hazy juniper]

Yeah 2-3 weeks is fine, a month is a tad long

[frank pier]

well you got the platform and seat...make your voice heard, and we (or at least most) agree with you

will be a real dead period otherwise

[hazy juniper]

People are ignoring this for some strange reason

As if the wait is worth it

And I agree with u, when Beta is out NO ONE will buy Illuvitars

It seems like a good plan to launch them together but Illuvitars will be wildly overshadowed

[royal anvil]

Yeah this is what we want to avoid

[hazy juniper]

The only thing that would change my mind is the progression of Wave 4

If thats far from ready then I can see reason to feel pain now for consistency later

[frank pier]

speaking of leaderboard, you still have 15k is missleaved Illuvitars that could get you back into top 100 according to the app

[sharp sigil]

If they introduce some utilities or incentives to bond and collect illuvitars then it might trigger some volume on secondary market which is not a bad thing at all...

[frank pier]

when you went over the accomplishements of 2023 for ILV in your video today, almost all were related to beyond

[frosty knot]

Disagree, the revamp of the Album showcases all of the Milestone Rewards / Collection Completion Rewards.

Most of those rewards are in-game cosmetics.

[frank pier]

yeah, I could see that later, but not for the first few months...people will be too busy collecting in the overworld for that, and have bp from land

and whatever secondary market we finally get for those two from previous waves

[hazy juniper]

I mean if the hype dies down then yeah, but they will be focused on Illuvials first

But thats why launching Beyond at the same time is ballsy

[hazy juniper]

Am I not on top 100? And which app?

[hazy juniper]

I just checked and there has been no proposal to delay Wave 3. Where does that leave it in an official sense?

[rotund halo]

My 2 cents: I'd be more than happy to have wave 3 before open beta. Especially if there's a reasonable chance OB gets delayed again.

[royal anvil]

It wasnt a proposal. It was a sentiment here before and it made sense when open beta was slated for Q1. Didnt want to detract both attention and dev time from open beta

[short star]

yeah i tend to agree! pre open beta, with the partnership being a big web3 name, it's the time for marketing towards the web3 audience and beyond, after the open beta it makes more sense for marketing to be targeting gamer/web2 audience

[pure pulsar]

i prefer post OB
or when we hit considerable DAU
or leading to OB as part of launch marketing
otherwise, we are just squeezing the same people

[pure pulsar]

essentially, illuvitars are pfps and people should want to buy them so their profile pic is not the default one. i cant get behind it if the reason to keep pushing selling jpegs pre launch is to squeeze the existing holders

[short star]

the people who are being squeezed might like being squeezed tho if you know what i mean 😛
whales that are happy to be early. the normie beyond player like me doesnt lose much if he doesnt buy into the next wave i feel like.

[pure pulsar]

if you want to sell x amount of d1sk pre OB vs xxx amount of d1sk post OB

[short star]

you make it sounds like its the last wave, there is still gonna be xxx post OB even if we sell x amount pre OB

i think it is more a question of marketing right now around OB than it is a questions of revenue. that will flip later down the line

[pure pulsar]

how many more waves do we have left for the current set, and when is the next set?

[pure pulsar]

how much revenue are we expecting from wave 3?

$1m? Thats $200k for the treasury, enough to cover 6 days of operation?

illuvium 7-days volume is 64e in tokentrove, thats 1-day volume for some random collection on opensea

[short star]

again, i think it's a question of right marketing around OB and not about getting more revenue from one illuvium beyond wave.

the plan that makes most sense to me is to onboard as much web3 as we can before OB, with the big web3 partner lined up for wave 3 that would work out great.
then once we have OB we wouldn't want to market our NFT Project too much in the beginning, until the gamers are hooked, as it is still a huge turn down for the web2 that we are trying to attract.

and then after that there are a lot of strategic questions, like, would we have slow down waves in order to not run out of illuvials, if yes do we keep the wave sale always open to provide that pokemon card - go to the store at any point and buy some - feeling. etc..

in the end the right marketing will provide way more revenue in the long run than trying to make this particular wave a top seller.

[pure pulsar]

who are we marketing it to? how many new wallets did we get from TL promo?

even if we do a promo with a big web3 partner, do you assume their community gonna buy that many pfps from a pre launched game?

we degens mint to flip

unless the web3 partner is one of the 5 top bluechips

we'll get some volume there

the only one whos doing well rn is pudgy, which is one of our committee

[still herald]

Imo I think that is way worse to have Wave 3 in 3-4 months rather than 3-4 weeks. I mean If it doesn’t take away time and resources that would delay Open Beta, my opinion is that it should be launched a few weeks after Wave 2.
And I don’t think Beyond was really regarded as a game that will attract DAUs to Illuvium.

[meager garden]

I'll just throw my 2 cents here be4 Alexa chimes in. Wave 2 had to be extended for double the time of wave 1 with way over-tuned incentives for personal goals for it to maintain more or less the same number of d1sks bought from wave 1. And also don't forget that the alpha wave 2 was a flop compared to the wave 1.
IMO we should take the sentiment that was shared by the community and wait for OB. We all, beyond lovers, are eager for wave 3 ofc but give beyond a rest already. Make a mega launch with the OB and wave 3 and a beyond web3 partnership. And please have the possibility for bulk opening so ppl don't have to spend days opening their d1sks...

[valid sierra]

Didn’t they say no more sales until OB? Did this change again?

[tepid geyser]

From my perspective, I don't believe that it is a good idea to drop yet more supply onto the market without any additional demand being present.

There's already over 600k illuvitars minted and the aftermarket continues to get weaker as time goes by.
Due to this, I believe that there is dimished incentive for people to invest as time goes by as there will be less and less confidence in the ability to liquidate any of the illuvitars.

We have had two promotional partners thus far, along with Arena going live (albeit Beta) and we have yet to see any significant inflows into Beyond from those avenues.
Until we can demonstate that we can convert players of the other titles into Beyond participants (even just for the PFP), we shouldn't introduce any more.

Until we can drive further demand into Beyond, we are continuously tapping the same players over and over again whilst providing less incentive for them to participate. It's not a healthy dynamic.

[pure pulsar]

well said

[meager garden]

I'll add this. The idea of any decent game is to not introduce power creep. Wave 1 illuvitars should have been the rarest but right now there are some wave 2 illuvitars that are rarer than wave 1 equivalents.
If we release another wave too soon with the declining numbers we're having will just make the next wave the rarest one and I don't think that's the idea here...

[pine crag]

I think after they release the draft of the card game this year demand should change.
But how long will it take to build it next to everything else might take years..
Also will it be worth it to allocate funds there? In my opinion if well done yes but for this we need to see the drafts and have much more funds to play with.

[meager garden]

I previously was also in the camp for advocating a game for beyond, but personally right now I think that if beyond is done right with the cosmetic and emote incentives it doesn't need a game at all to thrive.

[pine crag]

Totally agree this is exactly how it is.

[pine crag]

I think the question is will it bring more players into our metaverse. Doesn't help if just our current community will play it and there is no growth at all.
Personally I love card games but not sure if the current illuvitars can be used for a professional and fun card game which will bring us more growth.
Most likely the DAO can spend the money elswhere which will get us more daily users.
But let's not underestimate Johnny and first read the drafts if they will ever be shared 🙂

[meager garden]

from the beginning I though illuvitars and the accessories would make a killer game like slay the spire, or axie infinity did

[tepid geyser]

I believe to compensate for this, this is why we are seeing the broken disk purchase rewards.
It is a way of not only incentivising disk sales but also introducing large supply into future waves.

I think this is a terrible idea personally, as with all inflation, someone is paying for that, two guesses for who that is.

[meager garden]

agreed, numbers should come from increased player base not overly inflated future rewards

[dire shuttle]

I'm not sure if anyone has mentioned this as an idea but I would love to see all of my Illuvitars in a digital album which I can turn the pages like a real album.

Maybe it's an idea for the Illuvium team to create and you can have different albums with different skins and these can be used as rewards and can be traded on the Illuvidex.

The albums can be basic going through to crazy designs

Sometimes I just wanna see my album and appreciate my slotted Illuvitars but it's hard to do this with the current setup.

I would like to show my friends and family but again it's not easy to do.

Having it on my phone would be great aswell.

Any thoughts on this idea 💡

[smoky verge]

illuvium-beyond-leaderboard.vercel [dot] app
Super useful for checking and fixing your album 🙂

[topaz zodiac]

Battle in the beyond just launched solo pack opening and multi pack opening the other day. Max though is opening 25 at a time

[meager garden]

this is gr8 indeed but this is a 3rd party website.
I want to be in sanctum mesa after coming from a taiga boreal run and open some disks to chill while I get ready for my next OW run

[fathom frigate]

thats actually still quite a rare card. What about Ramph?

[fathom frigate]

GREAT idea!

[fathom frigate]

I would still like a game - it would add rarity to low mint pfps

[meager garden]

I would very much like a game as well, if it's a good one, don't get me wrong.
I was just saying the value proposition for beyond if done right with the in game cosmetics and emotes doesn't require a game for it to thrive

Anyone familiar with slay the spire?

would be sick to have a game like the Beyond Tower.
Where accessories bonded in an illuvitar give certain abilities to the matching illuvial in your team.

You would have to pay to enter the tower and you try to climb to the max you can for some juicy rewards

[astral ermine]

228 rhamphyres 12 holo

[fathom frigate]

hmmm so technically OPh is rarer?

[astral ermine]

yes

[meager garden]

even rarer if it's alpha

this is the problem I was mentioning earlier with power creep

[astral ermine]

only 4 alpha ohistos

[frank pier]

I think we beyonders are deluded if we think open beta will be the magic potion for beyond. I doubt it will bring substantially more people into ILV due to two major problems: 1: requires a desktop with above average computing power to be effective (my nice computer couldn't even do pvp) and 2: most gamers in the world use phones, in some cases that is all they have. Until these two issues are addressed, as well as a kick ass game, then the ILV sytem will not have "millions and millions" of daily players I would guess. So the flow over to beyond will be limited, and I would guess without incentives almost non-existent in the beginning. I get the idea that we keep milking the same couple of hundred people, but I think we need to maintain the flow of waves either way. It will pop as an ecosystem when it pops, but to wait for some outside project to provide the solution is wishful thinking imho. And yes, love to see a simple card game for beyond, even if developed by someone else.

ps and love to be wrong as I'm fully committed to ILV

[vapid imp]

Just like i think extending wave 2 was a bad idea, releaseing wave 3 early will be the same.
nothing to gain, but lost trust from community

[meager garden]

It would have been really bad in terms of numbers if it wasn't extended.
Even with double duration we still sold less d1sks from wave 2 than from wave 1. Imagine if it wasn't extended...

Wave 1 Standard d1sks sold - 101 671
Wave 2 Standard d1sks sold - 106 729

Wave 1 Mega d1sks sold - 45 421
Wave 2 Mega d1sks sold - 23 135

not to mention a lower price tag...

[vapid imp]

thats my point, we sold almost nothing, but a lot of people was not happy with it being extended

i think its a lose/lose

[meager garden]

I'm sad to say but most don't know what's best for the product. They are sad for their own interests.

[tidal adder]

I 100% agree and would add:

1. Let's not underestimate the impact of all the free wave 3 d1sk rewards that people have been accumulating from this ongoing wave (e.g. 2 mega disks for every 25 disks bought). Also bear in mind some of those were likely farmed by people who are net sellers into Beyond.

2. I don't think new demand is offsetting or will offset this dynamic. It would certainly help to understand the impact of the promo and the extension of wave 2 that the community was requested to vote on. Feedback / info should be a two-way street 🙂

3. Real utility: Except for the leaderboard ILV payout, we have not yet seen any collection rewards being delivered (understandably because I assume they'll mostly be tied to the game) but the point is it's difficult to further stimulate demand without adding measurable utility.
   I actually liked the idea of adding a card game that involves illuvials + illuvitars. I totally get that the focus should be on OB but there might be merit in exploring the idea with the community and even maybe taking the risk of hiring a team to separately work on this. This would really help the ecosystem in my view because it will (i) boost Beyond and (ii) add a simple game / use case that can draw more players into Illuvium (Arena pvp is great but very complex and Illuvium can really benefit from a simple game that can be played from mobile). I get it, time and cost is an issue but I am convinced that discussing the idea and sharing the vision will be of help to the project.

[vapid imp]

so if people dont buy its good for the product?

havent seen the numbers from extended sale, but i doubt it made any difference

[meager garden]

ppl did end up buying with time which ended even a bit more the wave numbers

[meager garden]

I just posted the d1sks sold above it was waaaay worse be4 extended

[spare temple]

I agree with the 'waiters' but 3-4 months still seems long to me, would personally target 2 with 3 months as optional pushback

[vapid imp]

is that the disk sold only from: when it was meant to end - to extended end
or is it disk for the whole wave2 sales?

[tidal adder]

Some ppl also save liquidity till the end of the wave so they understand the supply of disks better before buying. This means a portion of the January sales could have happened in December if the wave ended back then 🙂

But regardless, I agree. Difficult to see how a wave 3 can be very successful if carried out soon

[meager garden]

it's for the whole duration, the numbers we're a bit over half of what they are now be4 it was extended

[spare temple]

got 3 standards to battle!

[vapid imp]

ohh, so the amout of disks sold at the first end date, was only about half of what it is now? thats actually surprising

[meager garden]

that's another one, if it wasn't for the BITB guys the numbers would be even worse... So a big thank you for the work done there 🙏🏼

[meager garden]

yep

[spare temple]

@surreal pecan beep beep

you wanna do 3 standards?

[vapid imp]

Thanks for correcting me, did not think that was the case at all. have a nice weekend mate

[surreal pecan]

sorry, for some reason i'm getting a validation error when trying to battle and i can't open disks

[spare temple]

fasho, no problem

do you think it would work to try entering my battle?

or just general issue

[past tundra]

You could try to Disconnect, your imx wallet, and then connect it again

A lot of these things are immutable Wallet connection issues

[spare temple]

can someone battle me preasee

i can never find anyone these days lol

@still herald ?

k opening solo :p

nevermind lol i guess all 5 of my disks opened on that battle

got a couple holos, not bad

[frank pier]

also think that we can time a bull market is unlikely...bulls have their own style and movements, as we are seeing a little today we could have a big correction that lasts for months before the next upturn...who knows for sure, and I wouldn't "time" any launch related to the markets....just get a good product out there asap

And as to a card game, I play Gods Unchained (GU) almost every day to earn a little gods and also just to exercise the brain. I would gladly shift over to a Beyond version in a minute, so I like the idea of farming out the project or hiring a team to do this. I think GU is one of the most successful web 3 games out there if I read a recent report on the industry correctly. Some of us are more card/chess players and some are more pvp/battlers...we certainly have room for both 🙂

[wooden ice]

I actually would have spent way more on wave 2 if prices hadn't changed (and it did not get delayed). Maybe I'm not the only one (even if most active DC members seemed to disagree)?

And I know it's counter-intuitive, but I don't think it's fair to compare both waves like that. That's one of the lesser consequences of why, imo it was such a, let's say, 'interesting' (or pick another euphemistic adjective) idea to change prices after one wave.

And it becomes even more 'interesting' if wave 3 really starts after OB. I love this product (the collectability, the art, the opening, the spin-offs like BITB, and even the accessories) and I have been on the lb since those first bugs were squashed.

But Beyond, imo, is and should be a very straightforward product. Who cares if we sell more or less than the previous wave? This game should be for collectors. And even if it wasn't...who's going to buy wave 3 pfp's, when it launches together with dark holo nft's with actual utility? Imo, the answer is fewer people than now, not more.

[meager garden]

There are a lot of factors at play, I for example have never been a collector of any sort and came into beyond with a trader mindset taking advantage of the arbitrage opportunity with sILV2, and it completely hooked me to such degree that now I'm on the top 100 as well.
But I think you gave the answer right there, right now what's missing is giving utility to beyond besides the leaderboard and that will only come with OB.

don't underestimate the power of cosmetics, players love their skins alright

it's what differentiates them from other players

[frank pier]

I looked at the albums of the people thousands back in the leaderboard...shocking how many there and a fair amount of them had bought the GS promo disk and not much else and we all know how that turned out. Beyond is a quality product that could continue to be expanded, and as with most of us, people will be surprised if introduced properly on how addictive it can be. I know this was first thought to be just some small side project, but honestly it carried the ILV system through 2023 and should be promoted to a core product going forward, and invested in properly. It is better to be lucky than good as they say, and ILV lucked out with this golden goose. And I appreciate all the respectful discussion here....none of us know for sure what will be best, but it is good to get collective wisdom and buy in also. And I also get the team understands where the system needs to go in the future and it will take time, so do each small step is important as it will reveal the larger vision.

[covert ibex]

How about extending wave 2 for 1/2 extra months? If it has been extended before, why stop now and leave such a large gap? I really dislike the idea of missing out on potential sILV2 burnt and ETH brought into the ecosystem.

This will also help bring wave 1 and 2 numbers a bit closer

[potent tulip]

Wave 3 is from an art perspective almost ready to go - the wait between waves doesnt have to be long - but this is with the council afaik.

[meager garden]

I'll say it, I actually think this would be a good idea, even if it hurts my bags. I'm all in favor for making anything that can make wave 1 rarer than wave 2. That's how it should be.

[potent tulip]

continuity is key

[meager garden]

the pause is important as well for the market to breath, but yeah with the OB delay it'll be a long 4ss time be4 we get wave 3

[wide swan]

Rewards Distributed from 3/1/2024

[frank pier]

@hazy juniper then click on the album points missed row to see what spot you need to change. You can send unwanted illuvitars to the address at the top of the app page to thank him for creating this for us for free.

[surreal pecan]

I wouldn’t mind but setting dates and changing over and over again does have some cons

[meager garden]

Why don't we make a poll to gauge sentiment?

Prolong Wave 2 for 1 more month - 1️⃣

Release Wave 3 before Open Beta - 2️⃣

Release Wave 3 with Open Beta - 3️⃣

End Wave 2 on January 15th - 0️⃣

[fathom frigate]

I personally wouldn’t buy any more disks leading into bull run unless they were reasonable and at least 3 months from now so that I can recover funds

[light epoch]

I think Wave 3 should be before Open Beta but not that far to it.
Time frame should be few weeks before OB official release date, when we are kicking up the marketing. Then run together with OB for a few more weeks.

[livid bramble]

Think ahead, have future waves mapped out well in advanced and use the time between to build demand. Lets see a consistent winning formula with at least 6 weeks build up for Partnerships next time so people actually know about them. Stop chopping and changing dates, supply, the rules of a game, or altering rewards. There was some chat in Discord a few days back how a decision by the DAO could easy just take away leader-board rewards. What kind of message is this? Put some things in stone, build some kind of foundation. Some kind of certainty otherwise its all quicksand...

[fathom lintel]

I can understand both sides of the argument, part of me would be happy for more time to get funds ready for the new wave, while the collector in me would love to have the next wave soon. Certainly, the new delay did not help Beyond, but this is reality.

This situation underscores the need to sprint to open beta, which Kieran said in his latest video is the new focus of the team. Get to open beta without further scope creep and launch as soon as the tech allows it. It's clear from the Epic store experience that we will not have a huge rush of web2 players at the start, no matter how polished the game would be. And for the existing audience/web3 players, the current state is more than good enough to start playing.

I know I will grind OW from day 1, even if there will be no further improvements (and even if there will be people crying for not having this or that feature yet). OB will get the ball rolling, kickstart revenue > kickstart revdis > push token price a bit higher > keep players busy, and extend the runway, giving more time for the team to implement new features gradually. Slowly and steadily, we will have new players coming in, and it does not matter if they come for the rewards or because they heard about it from a friend. A certain percentage of them will get hooked regardless and keep the ball rolling. So I still hold out hope that we can get a launch at the end of Q1.

As for wave 3, I personally think a compromise between the 2 extremes would be best, launching it about a month before open beta and keeping it on sale long enough to cater to new players coming in during at least the first 3 months. So I think a planned sale of at least 4 months would be needed (with the new promo set during the wave), to give room for working through teething pains after launch.

And I think extending the sale of wave 2 the second time (with only 2 days left) is a bad idea and would lead to a disastrous loss of credibility.

[livid bramble]

I honestly believe we should have leveraged Easter Eggs, and puzzles of sorts inside Beyond from day one. If there was say 2 waves each year done right with 2 x Promo's and in between this time "collectors" where just starting to discovering background combos that where triggering Dashboard or Album features, Unlocking breadcrumbs of Lore, Strange / crazy Easter Eggs and occasional humour - the noise and chat on X, TG & Discord about discoveries and theories of what some may mean would generate all the buzz you need. That's the pay off. Skins, board, Emotes are all great items that support this but making people curious about Illuvium Universe and its many secrets really should have been the primary task for Beyond. Tease, Wet appetites, and make the payoff fun, exciting, thought provoking. Playing Beyond should be just as interesting as finding a hidden cave in Overworld triggered by day/night, Season, Seasonal events would be interesting. It would get tongues wagging.

I know I am harping on about using backgrounds - but seriously, someone goes to the time & trouble assembling Drone S3 L, M, R in correct order and... nothing happens! I dont understand why we would not make the best use of our assets as they are very strong.

[hazy juniper]

Thank you! sorting this now

[hazy juniper]

Whip up a proposal!

[livid bramble]

Maybe.

[surreal pecan]

I like your thinking... not sure if my opinion is controversial, but i feel like we should get rid of accessories in the future and have the variance in power levels come from backgrounds and different versions of the same illuvitar. I just simply feel like the art is great, and tends to get diminished rather than increased from the accessories. My general sentiment is that i get happy when i open a great illuvitar, and generally saddened when i have to bond because i want to compete on the leaderboard.

[livid bramble]

Beyond is important because it is the chance for the team to experiment, innovate and have fun without any risk to the core competitive game. Arena has to work within strict game play parametres & tokenomics., whereas being crazy, zany, and free to break rules is precisely the place for Beyond. The team can show the character of wild Illuvials in a humanistic way with a lot of room for expression that you can't in Overworld. Similarly for users there should be more than one way to play Beyond. Leaderboard, Card Collector, Treasure Hunter, Puzzle Master, Lore curator. Lots of reasons to have a Beyond Album.

[frank pier]

lol in meditation I saw my illuvitars moving, like the pictures on the wall in harry potter movies, how cool would that be? The eyes close and move, the hair etc....that would be an album to share with others...and with ai this may not be far off. And though I play GU I do not appreciate the artwork of the cards, whereas I do look at my illuvitars with much more appreciation.
And this from Doooom is spot on: It's clear from the Epic store experience that we will not have a huge rush of web2 players at the start, no matter how polished the game would be.

[alpine dew]

This will be how Illuvials you captured are

[meager garden]

love to see the discussion rollin

[meager garden]

This would be awesome to have indeed, but sadly beyond was a project that was never meant to be and they didn't go to those depths in order to not steal resources from the other games development.
Doesn't mean we can't have it implemented in the future with a good proposal submitted, that's the power of a DAO 😉

[meager garden]

whoever hasn't voted, cast your vote folks and help us know what you feel

[cerulean quartz]

I dont understand this, my album is fully optomised but still says this, what does this mean ? What changes should I make ?

how do i fix this ?

thanks

[meager garden]

you need to w8 for the website to refresh, you're already at max score

[cerulean quartz]

thanks, what day of the week are ILV dropped for topj 100 ?

thanks

[urban pawn]

wednesday

any1 have problem when they bought disks, but not all of them got minted? i bought 400 recently, but only 347 got minted

[astral ermine]

what a battle for top 10

[frank pier]

wait till next cut off date for rewards...could be some jumping

[obsidian dune]

how many "monthly raffles" did we have in the wave 2? and what were day and how many d1sks did we give away?

[sly hornet]

Yeah I feel like it's going to be very difficult to keep up with these guys and stay there

[frank pier]

it is an arms race for sure...and this is when we are still a backwater...most of us non-whales realize some day in the future we will be selling out our collection to new whales and be done...but hopefully at a profit.

[pastel bison]

There was an IMX rate-limit issue last week, however all requests should be processed now ... if you are missing d1sks please raise a support request (with relevant details like wallet address, transaction ID, times, etc) and they will get it sorted.

[blissful void]

Hi, what was the minting price of Team Liquid Promo Disc?

[frank pier]

think it was $40

[frank pier]

just got this email from ILV, which confirms you should buy disks for the ILV distribution which pretty much puts in cement the payouts continuing infinitum. The only thing they could do is split the token at some point which would make sense. But if you sell something (disks in this case) with an agreement/understanding to its benefit it would be a huge issue to change it after the fact:
• Climb the Leaderboards: Wave 2 Illuvitars are key to completing your albums and climbing the leaderboards, giving you a shot at a share of 100 ILV distributed weekly to the top 100 players.

[pure pulsar]

thanks for the poll fillow, we'll bring it to the next ICC meeting. thanks guys

[hazy juniper]

That sounds super weird. Maybe contact #❓❓〕support

[turbid moss]

Is illuvialmaster working now?

Is wave 2 over yet

[past tundra]

Not yet. Still says 2 days

[weary gust]

What's the word on wave 3? We going straight into it or is the plan to still hold off until after OB?

[pure pulsar]

#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

[weary gust]

3 for me, though I'd be open to releasing sooner if the team explained more about the future plans/utility of beyond. Time for a Beyond townhall maybe?

[broken notch]

tell me the exact end time of wave 2

[meager garden]

yes maybe launching wave 3 one week before OB would be a nice idea to kick start the party for the OB launch

[meager garden]

the counter should be telling us the hours left indeed

[royal anvil]

Just want to let everyone know were taking stock of the discussion here. This is definitely a topic for our next IMC meeting and getting the overall sentiment and possible options are welcomed.

[pure pulsar]

how many waves do we have for set 1?

[meager garden]

5 if i'm not mistaken, 155 in total, 25 per wave plus the T0's

[pure pulsar]

and when do we expect wave 6 (set 2)

[meager garden]

that's a whole new set of illuvials