🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[frosty knot]

Perhaps, I guess the thinking is that the player's aim is to Collect the entire Collection including Wave 1, Wave 2 and future Waves and Sets

At least to me, creating seperate Leaderboards for partial completion seem's strange

Certainly we can discuss it further if there is a strong push for this

[fossil kraken]

Same bug happens when you use a sleeved illuvitar and bond it with accessories. The original one is still sleeved. Then you have to remove it and add it again.

[quartz estuary]

Hello everyone

[fathom frigate]

How are d1sk sales doing atm

Has there been a drop off

[obsidian dune]

something like 12k mega and 47k standards…. in my opinion that’s better than expected for two weeks in without any real marketing or anything….

but in the same time, that’s less money than wave 1 alphas have collected

[ionic stratus]

Dear rewards distributor, Please send my weekly reward so I can satisfy my addiction. Sincerely

[sharp sigil]

Its kind a good bug to have as you will not loose points after you sold the item. 😀

[wide swan]

Week 15 Rewards Distributed:

[fresh comet]

I am getting charged almost 150 usd to receive my GS D1SK plate (tax).
I am from Brazil.
Anyone else?

[light epoch]

I believe this guy @teal sluice

[dull pilot]

looking nice with this bg https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/476117

[fathom frigate]

That’s still some decent volume

Hmmm if the waves are too small to be released separately I understand but that sounds like a tough wave to collect

[pine crag]

Uf what about Switzerland any one ordered already?

[covert ibex]

Heck yeah, 50 Illuvitars in the next wave. I love it - do you know if they will be ready right after wave 2 or will there be another brief hiatus?

[light epoch]

alpha wave 1 was higher in price + hype + 3 days selling so understandable for wave 2 money to be lower.
Hopefully more marketing + release of public version will pump wave 3

[light epoch]

should be a brief hiatus, due to wave 3 + 4 being after illuvium public

[restive kettle]

Probably promo disk sale afterwards like last time and then hopefully public beta launch? 👀 so better wait a bit with wave 3 😅

[pine crag]

If the game really launches beginning next year tigether with 50 new illuvitars i will need a very nice bonus 🤣

[covert ibex]

Good catch, yeah by the looks of it we'll have some time without D1sks which at the end of the day may be a good thing

[light epoch]

yeah or we all gonna need an intervention on disk opening

[covert ibex]

You and me both

[covert ibex]

Just no more Dokas/Archies on the next one

[teal sluice]

I don't buy anything from the store because I will be taxed. The price is already very high without it. Import taxes in Brazil are predatory. Everything here costs double the price. (and they WILL stop your items at the customs)

[restive kettle]

Yeah next time we will have Aapons and Volantes, but im pretty sure they learned from the last sale and tweak those numbers around a bit to not make it such a pain😅

[covert ibex]

If they were Aapons I'd be fine with that, I love that monkey . I got one in almost every background possible, can't help myself

But on a more serious note, I'm sure next promo will be different. If one thing ILV does right is listen to the community

[dire shuttle]

Hi All does anyone have a rough idea on what your total value of Illuvitars needs to be to get into the leader board. Or what you roughly need to spend to get into 100 postion on leader board. Is there a rough metric to work off

[pseudo pagoda]

@dire shuttle I am at like 420k points I probably spent like 3k filtering threw silv2

So maybe 10k lol

I lie I have nothing boned so my points are lower

[runic glade]

feel like you can get 400k points from lynxes alone lol, if you fill accessories/backgrounds etc with them

[dire shuttle]

Wow yeah a little out of my price range I think. What would be cool is a program that can look at your Illuvitars and accessories and optimise them for the album so you can see how your are tracking without having to bond anything.

[pseudo pagoda]

@dire shuttle I don't think I'll ever bond but that would help me decide mathematically lol

[fossil kraken]

I’m number 26 and you have my address down with one extra e in the sheet. It should be :0x4Ee765E38426a08b17C3CDB1665757Aa4D31F952. You have it as 0x4ee not 0x4e for the first four characters. But I did get the ilv. FYI

[dire shuttle]

If Illuvial Master did something like album optimization that would be unreal it looks at what you have and suggest the best combos etc and you can use this info to slot. Also what would be cool is a function to have an uto slot function for your complete album that would be great

[pseudo pagoda]

@dire shuttle only thing people might not like ai stragy might feel like your loosing a type of game play

@dire shuttle like me I have know idea what my potential is intail after I would bond lil risk taking haha which I am avoiding so not in the game 100% so I definitely see your point help people decide ...

[tepid geyser]

It's safe to presume that you would double the power of your album by bonding using moderately powerful accessories.
If you are willing to bond using mostly high tier accessories, you can add another 10% on top of that.

[pseudo pagoda]

So 7k strong get you a million points haha

That's if you would build a deck ..

[tepid geyser]

Yeah the $20+/week in rewards for hitting top 100 are no justification to spend $7k.
You have to want to collect and bond regardless of the reward.

[storm herald]

20$ cold be $700 ish next bull run just saying

[tepid geyser]

Possibly, but your $7k, if used to purchase ILV (using the same multiplier) could also be $245,000.

[storm herald]

True

[dapper coyote]

I need a player I will have a top 30 deck message me if you can play fo rme

for me

[topaz zodiac]

This is 100% on our wish list to build, probably not something we can do anytime soon unfortunately due to lack of public APIs

[dire shuttle]

Another crazy idea is setting up a Syndicate or DAO and everyone contributes their best Illuvitars to create one awesome album and the ILV rewards are distributed as per each contributors total illuvitar power. Every so often you get a chance to take back your illuvitars and the syndicate would look to fill those slots.
Something like that would be incredible.

[dire shuttle]

Myself and my two sons ages 10 and 12 love using IlluvialMaster everytime anyone opens a disc we have it up on another window paste our wallet Address and check pricing, rarity etc. Keep up the great work definitely onto something

[bleak crown]

Cool idea but wouldnt be surprised if the album got lost due to smart contract negligence

[dire shuttle]

Yeah the smart contract would have to be rock solid that's for sure

[bleak crown]

I feel like that will exist at some point tho :p

[dire shuttle]

Even like lending your best Illuvitars out for ETH would be cool and when the time expires they are released back

[solemn dove]

Hey guys, has anyone from the UK received their GS Promo D1SK plate yet?

[valid sierra]

It's prolly hanging on customs wall by now

[restive kettle]

it took a while but im also in the diamond club now 💎

but ofc there can be no victory without sacrafices...

these guys had to join the dark side

altough i must say they look pretty cool^^

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-philosophy-philosophical-choices-will-difficult-marvel-gif-16615025

[topaz zodiac]

I love the sequencing on them, how the accessory goes up in stage. My favorite is the floralynx out of those 3

[meager garden]

solid accesories choice

you guys are making me have to bond my lynxes as well to get back to the leaderboard

[restive kettle]

thx, yeah the floralynx is also pretty cool but i think i like the Zephyrelynx the most... colours are matching so good

[restive kettle]

dont do it theres not enough space for all of us anyway 😜

[meager garden]

push & shove

[normal steeple]

Lynx are best looking with accessories.

[chrome harness]

and have the least aftermarket value, yet have some of the highest point totals, so great to put acces. on!

[fathom frigate]

Good points too

[pseudo pagoda]

I like tattoos on other people I can't bond lol

[safe ibex]

When rewards from last week? 😋

[wide swan]

Check pinned

[delicate delta]

Gz mate!

[tepid geyser]

Love the new pfp 😍 . It is a little strange seeing you without the Adoredo though.

[keen forum]

The battleboard reward buying 50 disk is for Arena ?

[alpine dew]

Correct

[tepid geyser]

Beautiful 😍

[remote saddle]

Yah that might be one of the nicer looking ones ive seen

[livid bramble]

When is the next snapshot?

[chrome harness]

just happened

[chrome harness]

and one of my fav Illuvs from wave 2...congrats1

[tepid geyser]

Thanks, mine too 😊 .

[topaz zodiac]

Damn, damn, damn love it

so jelly

If I could get that with the prime expression that would be my PFP for sure

[rotund halo]

Sublime.. Truly

[ionic stratus]

One of the rare times you can actually see the nexus 🔥

[light epoch]

hmm, only 4 omnipotent ophisto + 2 holo phisto on the market

damn this is rare

[wide swan]

nice standard

[pseudo crown]

There more, I guess it's depend where you look at.

[light epoch]

sorry i mean in existence, i was checking the all illuvitar section

[delicate delta]

@gilded sage vs @tepid geyser Getting Spicy 👀

[tepid geyser]

Yeah 😩 . I'm trying to bond as little as possible but it's looking like i'm going to have to get busy again.

[fierce island]

God damn thats close

[covert ibex]

Wow, maybe Sifu pushes King Alexa to bond a Rhamphyre and Ophisto?

[frosty knot]

https://tenor.com/view/smash-a-new-foe-has-appeared-challenger-approaching-gif-16334728

I've started bonding, time to crack the 1 million

[livid bramble]

Bonding will kill a lot of value, it's a last resort for me...

[fathom frigate]

It’s the worst feeling but I’m in the same boat

[smoky verge]

You can always bond with T5 S3 accessories only 😄 holo Ophisto should net you quite some points with 2.5x multiplier :]

[tepid geyser]

😂 I would happily give up the top spot before I would bond that one.

[runic glade]

Lol pretty funny how much of a value destroyer bonding is, I don't think that was the intention the team had

[tepid geyser]

It looks as though there is a ceiling that is acceptable as people will pay to get them for leaderboard.
Once you go beyond a certain rarity into the collector pieces, I think that's where the majority of the value is destroyed.
They will still maintain high value is comparison to most due to leaderboard power, but they will never achieve close to the asking prices that they could if they was clean.

[runic glade]

agree. also think it's possible they'll come up with something to diminish the negative impact bonding has on value, since it seems this outcome wasn't intended

[tepid geyser]

I agree. Will be interesting to see exactly what that will be.

[calm cedar]

Just a quick question. I've written myself an app that goes through the album and sleeves the best illuvitar possible. Are others interested in something like this?

[alpine dew]

im interested

how does it work?

[calm cedar]

It's at a verry rough state at the moment. You give it a wallet address. (Should be yours).
And you give it you auth token to the illuvidex (I'm working on trying to get it automatically from the cookies)

And it does the rest using the sleeve by id function.

[livid bramble]

The accessories are getting monotonous too. I'm seeing the same old combos on too many Illuvitars and now I think everything is too much same same same. I also think you should be able to go a different path and actually collect expressions with matching backgrounds but so far it does not seem to be a collecting album, just a demand to increase "power" based on "spend" with low resolution slot machine graphics.

Maybe we will be able to access HD images of Illuvitars later but who knows?

[tepid geyser]

There is an update coming in due course that will enable you to download a 4k copy of your illuvitar.

[livid bramble]

That's good to know

[tepid geyser]

I'm looking forward to that one too.

[livid bramble]

I do like the artwork, and even though we don't know the Illuvial characters so I have absolutely no real connection at all with any of the "characters". The art has done a good job carrying it so far. That's why I don't like plastering glasses over some of the beautiful eyes...

[bold galleon]

Hey is someone interested in this beauty with background Tier 3

I can’t use it for the leaderboard… unfortunately not enough points

[livid bramble]

Looks really good. It is an earth / magma illuvial so the Magenta is actually a correct match too...

[bold galleon]

I texted u @livid bramble

[meager garden]

what are you talking about 🤣 Mah'tu is a tempest illuvial = air+air

[livid bramble]

So it should be teal or have a Brightland Steppes background?

[meager garden]

I dunno, that's collectors taste. But yeah I would say something around those lines suits better

I personally rather have the illuvial colors matching its background rather than with its affinity

[livid bramble]

Cool. I thought the nexus background should have been Shardbluff, but I think it looks cool with Taiga Boreal as its nice and woolly 🙂

I dont think anyone is matching the Illuvitars with the affinities so whatever looks best is probably the go

[tepid geyser]

The odds are very low to get a match but when the stars align they can look pretty special.
This one comes to mind.

[livid bramble]

OK you got me with that one... You know I have expressions 1 & 2 S1 and also Abyssal S2.

So you are currently rubbing my nose in it with this one - Alpha no less...

I originally was expecting that when you line up such a perfect set of 3 x expressions in a given location that we would get a little animation, or a nice 360' panoramic image of that location. Sadly no such magic or easter eggs found.

[pine crag]

Is this you Grant?
This would explain your beautiful bonds. 🤩

[restive kettle]

I think theres a lot of different backgrounds that would fit to an illuvitar, sure affinity-color or region where to find them could be one thing but sometimes you just get something that fits like this one imo

Matches really good with the eyes and his light

[pine crag]

This is what makes Illuvium beyond so interesting with some luck you can get very beautiful and aesthetic illuvitars. Addiction is real!

[eager vine]

Is this bug where you can’t change your pfp on illuvidex known?

[tepid geyser]

Yeah, usually just refresh and try again.

[eager vine]

Tried this over many days, no success 😅

[astral ermine]

try to log in again

[tepid geyser]

Ah sorry to hear that. Yes, what he said 👆 .
Failing that, I would submit a support ticket.

[chrome harness]

looks like secondary market has finally stabilized...or dead cat bounce, but we shall see. What has held up really well is the GS illuvs. as a side note

[tepid geyser]

I'm not surprised by that really. Getting anything decent out of those disks is insanely difficult. Not to mention how few of them were actually minted. I'm a big believer in those outperforming in the future.

[frosty knot]

Strangely...really love this pull I got yesterday

[fathom frigate]

Depends what you want for it

[bold galleon]

Friend request sent! 👋

[fathom frigate]

I agree

[gritty gazelle]

what are the different ranks for the album? and is it a set score point u need to pass to get it? or a % of top players?

[wooden ice]

Had to reenter login at Illuvialmaster, but now all my saved wallets are gone. Any way to get them back?

[slender jetty]

can anyone point me in the direction of finding the most expensive illuvitar purchased to date?

tokentrove is giving me grief

[wooden ice]

Illuvialmaster --> Marketplace --> Activity --> Sort by Price.

[tepid geyser]

😂

[hasty grotto]

not ever will i do this to my wave2 top 17 rank iluvitar .....lol

[livid bramble]

Interesting choice with the cigar and not the fluffy nose. I have not pimped my Squizzes or Ophisto yet. Waiting to pull a Bulldogs beanie and John Lennon lollypop glasses in wave 5...

[livid bramble]

These girls are still naked.

But one of these chaps had to be sacrificed to please the Illuvium Gods

[restive kettle]

If i had to choose a Ape it would be him 🐵

Galaxyape

[worthy tide]

Just posting this again because its elite

[livid bramble]

I like Hex Overload too. Very effective.

They remind me of chicken wire in some cases, angry hives in others, and even crayfish traps...

The last is yet to be minted, so please open more disks!!!

[tidal adder]

Also, T1 backgrounds are simple yet effective in the way they match 🙂

[tidal adder]

Can't agree more. Here's a flaming chicken 🙂

[livid bramble]

Totally agree - each background is good for different Illuvials, they give each an almost a unique personality. The colours and position of light makes a big impact. That flaming chicken looks almost tasty but its bad ass and would bite!

Here is a T1 - My Irish tap dancers!

[tidal adder]

hahaha! Now that you say it 🙂
By the way, I answered the message you had sent me earlier

[livid bramble]

Cool! I'll have a look. Thanks

Thanks Amino - you are getting me started on another 2 x sets to try and complete... Cheers!

[restive kettle]

I got the normal one 😁

[livid bramble]

Oh man... If only... Don't get me dreaming. I'm currently doing mine in red hex S2 because I just didn't think a Hex S3 set would be doable.

They do look nice. 🤤

[tidal adder]

Very nice Ollivender! Yes, red or orange Hex matches well 😉

[hazy juniper]

Quickly double checking. I'm good to unlink and relink wallet and I won't mess up my land

[lime axle]

Yes, I did this a few days ago and played lands last night, all good

[hazy juniper]

Sweet cheers

[pine crag]

@delicate delta you sold all your diamonds?

[still herald]

Brothers in arms 😄

[past tundra]

Probably nothing

[astral ermine]

do you know why autofill is not picking always the highest power ones?

[lime axle]

There's a bug here. For me it is always the same ones and mostly bonded illuvitars in slots where I don't have any or many other bonded options. Since it was so repeatable, I submitted a pretty detailed ticket and video earlier this week, hopefully it helps them out!

[tepid geyser]

Now that's what I call commitment. Is that Mr or Mrs Illuvium Dao 😂

[past tundra]

Haha. That’s Mr. DAO to you

Definitely the same name used for all the mailings I assume

[pastel bison]

jealous!

Definitely going to open some d1sks this morning. Sounds like a good use of a Saturday.

[slender jetty]

Would love to see the goodies

[pastel bison]

First nice one 🙂

Might even print that one, I don't have any t0's printed.

Not worth a heap but this looks awesome:

Compliments will get you everywhere:

if that had a better expression I would definitely consider an update to my PFP

[hasty grotto]

Gamestop disk .....I recived mine but I dont recall getting a DHL or email but it arrived anyways

[topaz spear]

Yo SAME! I CANT WAIT!

[smoky verge]

Did you get these T5s and holo's from regular d1sks!? Whut 😮

[keen forum]

Hi @pastel bison some news about the game on beyond?

[fierce island]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[frosty knot]

Hi mate, Johnny has written a Draft GDD end to end for the CCG, it's with Game Design for early feedback.

I won't say much lest I be struck down by the powers that be - but I can say it's a serious CCG, with the same elements of strategy and meta game you would expect from the likes of Magic and Hearthstone, but with a wild twist.

[keen forum]

Fomo

[midnight prism]

did the non holo gamestop diskplattes also got shipped out?

[covert ibex]

Can't wait to hear more about it

[hasty grotto]

Johnny is the God of byond whatever he has written it will be from the heart

[past tundra]

It sounds like they are getting sent out in batches. Not all are shipping on the same day.

[umbral lodge]

Had a mail yesterday i will receive mine the 4th so expect yours in a short time i guess

[keen forum]

i m totally agree with you, I think that in general the wave 2 has been done very well as design and marketing, I ask several questions on this theme because I really like Beyond and if the game is as good as I hope I would like to invest a lot and have everything as I did in some wallets for gods unchained

[pseudo pagoda]

@umbral lodge why is the shop not sending delivery time seems lazy no quality and control leads to more mistakes...

[teal sluice]

that's awesome

[alpine dew]

@pastel bison when can we read the GDD?

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[frosty knot]

Once Game Design has provided feedback and it's been polished.

[obsidian dune]

Johnny said (I think) we can read it even sooner, he just wants graphics team to make it look pretty so everything is clear and easy to understand.

[runic glade]

takes a long time to make a decent tcg, was hoping for something super simple and fun but it seems like it'll be more involved. big investment to make it work imo

[tepid geyser]

If you want to be competing with the likes of Pokemon and Magic, you have to go big or go home.

[astral ermine]

is the team aware that you can send your whole collection to a different wallet and sit on the leaderboard with multiple wallets? Does the Snapshot exclude those duplicates or no?

[obsidian dune]

I think that's how it should be.

[astral ermine]

no

[tepid geyser]

I don't think there is any way to stop this.

[obsidian dune]

If you are good enough collector to be able to have multiple accounts in top 100, you should be able to.

[astral ermine]

no i think you misunderstand me. i mean you can share the power from one illuvitar to multiple wallets

[alpine dew]

no I think don is saying there is a problem when you have a illuvitar sleeved and then transfer it or sale it you are still getting points for it

I informed the team on this but havent heard if they are working on a solution

@frosty knot

[astral ermine]

so if thats right to do then k1ng could do a bit of work before the snapshot send it to 100 wallets and take all beyond rewards

XD

[alpine dew]

yes its a big problem

[runic glade]

so you're saying we could have 100 K1ng's

[tiny path]

how can you check how many wave 2 disks purchased so far for the rewards?

[alpine dew]

it would take some work but yes atm its possible

[astral ermine]

for example

[alpine dew]

go to the launch party section

[astral ermine]

im sure he doesnt mean to cheat

[tiny path]

thanks!

[astral ermine]

but those cases should be excluded from the snapshot before it will be fixed

[alpine dew]

im pretty sure he knows he is getting over on the flaw atm

@timber apex you are the only team member I see online atm, does the team know about this problem?

people are able to get a power score from illuvitars that have been transferred to another account. looks like someone is taking advantage of it already as you can see above

@dapper coyote are you getting paid for both leaderboard spots?

[astral ermine]

he got the assets from seatin and i think this was after the snapshot

[tepid geyser]

No way, so you really could have 100 kings. Back in 5.......

[alpine dew]

yup it looks like seatin is using the same assests and is getting points from them still

[tepid geyser]

He sold his account, so maybe the guy that bought it and Seatins current account are sharing (unintentially).

[alpine dew]

I dident know seatin sold his whole collection, crazy

[astral ermine]

3 accounts are with those illuvitars atm. seatin OG and atlasking and hardtochoose

[alpine dew]

either way team needs to fix this

[astral ermine]

yes

[tepid geyser]

Especially now that it has been publicised 😅

[alpine dew]

more people are just gonna do this the longer it takes for the team to fix it

[delicate delta]

Is there a way to quickly reset Albums? 😄

We just finished sorting it out a couple of nights ago

[astral ermine]

unlink wallet

[delicate delta]

Does Unlinking and Linking again work?

Will try that now!

Alright sorted it on the main, I think it's removed! Really weird on this new wallet we made for the deal, can't find the unlink button

Ahhhh I found what I need to do, attach an email to it so I can remove the wallet link

[alpine dew]

crazy!!

does the team know about the problem above?

[wide swan]

Which?

[alpine dew]

assest can be used mutiple times to gain points atm moment we could have k1ng make 100 wallets and transfer all his assests to each one and claim all top 100 spots

[chrome harness]

This is an issue I've brought up to them weeks ago...you have to manual go in and unsleeve something then resleeve when you do upgrades etc. and I suppose it works the other way to, when you sell one

[wide swan]

I see what you mean

[alpine dew]

yup big pain in the butt

[chrome harness]

god, would we have to resleeve everything then?

[delicate delta]

Think it's going to take 24 hours or something till the email is now properly setup and then I can just unlink to disband the Album on Atlasking

I'll get it sorted as soon as I can, but I do hope this gets fixed soon for the intergrity of the Leaderboard 😄

[alpine dew]

thanks seatin

[wide swan]

Yeah this Seatin mentioned this to me when he sold his album

[chrome harness]

Yeah, I'm sure you didn't do it on purpose....who knew it wasn't working right in the macro way

[delicate delta]

Just so you know, I only sold my top ~250 Illuvitars with this deal, I've still got probably a Top #3-#5 Largest Holding across all my Wallets 😄

[alpine dew]

aww cool,

[delicate delta]

Just didn't see much point for me personally to keep up with the Leaderboard Grind

[chrome harness]

nice...mind saying price?

lol just to get a sense of value

[astral ermine]

its public knowledge

haha

[delicate delta]

7 ETH - About $12,000 - Whole base collection was valued at about 7.5 ETH + already bonded Accessories were an additional 3-4 ETH

[chrome harness]

ok..thanks. Not bad

Makes me feel a little better about my sunk investment 😉

Yeah real hard to move up on the leaderboard, though if they release 100 new Illuvitars next wave that could make a difference

[wide swan]

Also, just FYI there is an internal thread across this but I've added this to it for visibility and will update once I hear more

[chrome harness]

yeah I hope it's something the can just do a quick reset on and we don't have to resleeve our collection...seems it would be easy to make sure one nft is only used in one collection..I mean it's not even there if I understand correctly in the other

[pseudo crown]

Too much luck in 1 standard D1sk....

[astral ermine]

it will probably make not so much of a difference as it may look, since top 100 atm bought many w2 disks and will get much much w3 mega disks as rewards

[chrome harness]

lol you are probably right

hadn't even factored all that in! It's an arm race...illuvitar arms

[wide swan]

I got another stage 1 pipe like 5 d1sks later

[pseudo crown]

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-smoking-pippin-lotr-blow-smoke-gif-17536885

[chrome harness]

if you have illuvitars and access. you want to sell, combine them and put them below floor for decent illuvitar and it will sell...otherwise floor doesn't mean much right now

[topaz zodiac]

Not my best pull today, but certainly my favorite

[finite zealot]

Is she good enough for a new PFP???

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

Still holding out for a Holo

Preferably Holo primed expression

[finite zealot]

Don't blame you really, it makes a great holo.

[young tide]

Yeah, it's frustrating; I even traded some Illuvitars, and they're still sleeved in my album.

People can easily cheat on the leaderboard with this error.

I believe it's crucial for them to address this issue.

[pastel bison]

100% this is critical, when the issue was reported the understanding was that it was rare/intermittent, not that it happened always or mostly

will flag with highest priority and also suggest that we pause rewards

(with the understanding any missed rewards to be paid back in subseuqent rounds post fix)

Have raised as critical with dev team and also included Aaron and Kieran in the conversation

[pastel bison]

No they were from Megas, I'm opening about half and half.

[pastel bison]

Can't really add much here. My part is done. Game design team may have some updates/corrections/suggestions and then council will decide on what/when will be shared.

[wide swan]

Thanks Johnny

[celest reef]

whats the point of minting if all illuvial can be captured in game.

[tepid geyser]

Illuvitars are used in game as profile pictures. Illivials are captured and used to battle in PVP.
There is a potential TCG coming for illuvitars also.

[celest reef]

so the minted capsules are just profile pictures? why would they have a power rating then?

[tepid geyser]

There is also a collectable game associated with illuvitars where you can sleeve them in your album and compete on the leaderboard for rewards.
The higher the power of your sleeved collection, the higher you place on the leaderboard and the higher your rewards will be.
Bonding your illluvitars with accessories will boost the power of that illuvitar.
You will find 2 illuvitars and 3 accessories in each disk (random).

[celest reef]

yeah should of read into that more lmao

[tepid geyser]

No worries.

[celest reef]

i mean i got 200$ of useless things in my inventory now XD so a few worries, but realistically my own fault and i should know better by now.

[karmic scroll]

It’s so nice seeing no. 1 ranked on the beyond leaderboard helping new players understand it, true K1ng 👍🏻

[tepid geyser]

You could always try and resell them on the market to get your money back. At least partially.

[tepid geyser]

Cheers, I appreciate the kind words.

[celest reef]

Maybe a few years down the road XD I'm not too worried

[karmic scroll]

Iluvimaster (3rd party site) will be able to give you a general idea of what you’ve pulled is worth, AI updates based on floor and market movement from memory. Obviously don’t take it as 100% but should let you know relative value of your investment

[livid bramble]

I have a bonding stuck on step 2 for the last 15 minutes. Has anyone else experienced this?

Is there any chance I can lose the Illuvitar and 6 assets?

OK - the end asset just appeared in my inventory finally but the "Confirmed Bonding" and processing cycle is still showing...

[pine crag]

Will there be more ranks after Diamond and do we know how much points will be needed?

[livid bramble]

I saw this question answered a while back. They said they would add ranks. Probably using fictitious elements found in the Illuvium Universe...

[potent tulip]

Also, if ur able to sleeve them, owning certain collections/completing them, can unlock cosmtics in some of the other games. This feature is coming soon.

[livid bramble]

Awesome news

[rich elm]

I think the prices of illuvialmaster has not really been accurate since wave 2

[sharp sigil]

I'm with you on that. It's being undervalued, for sure.

[worthy tide]

One example i can think of is illuvial master reckons my non alpha growling geyser t1 s1 BG is worth less than my non alpha blushing geyser T4 S1 bg pretty silly.

[rich elm]

I think it has to do with combining both waves into the mathmatics. So the price of a wave 1, tier 3, stage 3 is combined with a wave 2, tier 3, stage 3. It should be illuvitar based. Wave 1 is suppose to be more expensive since you cant get them out of disks anymore.

Same goes for combining the prices of expressions, backgrounds, non holo and holo for an illuvitar. It makes the prices for some rare ones that are not even selling go lower and lower.

[astral ermine]

but it is worth more than the uncommon t4 background

451$ and your uncommon is 427$

or do you mean that you think the uncommon should be worth more?

[rich elm]

This is like saying a car from the same brand where one is sold for 5k and the other for 500k, that the 500k one should be lowered in price because the 5k one has more sales. That is not how pricing works.

[smoky verge]

Regular growling geyyser should be about 0.24 Eth. Now an Alpha cost 5x as much. So 0.276 for an alpha growling is rather undervalued.

[astral ermine]

they are both non alphas from his example

[smoky verge]

I misread xD
In that case ithink it is fair pricing.

[astral ermine]

yes i misread that too first and im with you i think these prices are good

what i noticed on illuvialmaster is that all t0s from w1 and w2 have the same value which i think is not the case

since w2 standards are much cheaper

and maybe add a function that devalue duplicates, since a 1:1 is much more worth than if there are same copys. But this only matters really for really rare ones

[rich elm]

This is an example where prices go wrong.

The average of those sales is about 2k, but it values it at €600

[astral ermine]

if the estimated value should be the average sale price youre right. but you cant sell a holo squizz for 2k today

[rich elm]

They are not being sold at all. Just because nobody is buying something doesnt mean the estimated price should go down.

Only two holo Rhamphy's sold. So where does the price tag €600 come from?

[astral ermine]

i think they take the prices from same raritys from w1 in the calculation with the squizz sales and floor prices. I think your Rhampy is worth more than 600$ right now but the factor that the sale is still on going and many more holo rhampys will be minted maybe makes the buyers think twice to buy this now for 1k for example and rather wait for end of near end of sales and buying it cheaper.

[rich elm]

It can go even lower then €600 because the disks are cheaper now. Thats why i think prices should be based on sales on specific illuvitars and not combined.

[astral ermine]

The 2,7k Holo Rhamphy is an alpha the rarest alpha and there are only 2 of them minted yet. That Goofy one was a bit overpriced maybe if you look at all the sales over 1k dollars from w2 which are not many:
Apart from all those ophistos of course you see the Umbres are valued at 1k with only 11 minted. Holo Rhamphys are 31 atm so i think the price is fair

Holo Synalph are 6 minted

[rich elm]

If now by example 100 holo Ramphy's gets pulled and sold. But no holo squizz gets sold or pulled anymore, the prices of a holo squizz will go down. Even though its not attainable from disks anymore. The point of making illuvitars not attainable anymore after a wave was to increase there value in future waves. If you combine estimated prices of waves the value isnt accurate. It should be illuvitar specific.

Take Ophisto and Rhamphyre by example. The rhampyhre will be decreasing more and more becasuse of ophistos being sold for under 1k.

[astral ermine]

i only think that it works like that i cant tell if they are taking the same raritys in these calculations but yes, they should be treated differently, since w2 are much cheaper for example. But in the end i think it comes down to how many are minted and not how expensive or cheap the disks were

[rich elm]

They said a while ago it works like that. They also take the non holo variants into that calculation.

Thats why i'm saying its not really accurate at the moment.

[worthy tide]

The uncommon with its background should be worth more, its like saying a blazing rhamphyre tier 1 stage 1 is worth more than a goofy Rhamphyre tier 4 stage 1. Its wrong.

[daring edge]

Anyone interested in buying D1SKs with 10% discount?

[sharp sigil]

Alpha d1sks?

[daring edge]

No wave 2's(would buy with sILV2). Keeping my alphas indefinite.

[worthy tide]

what i am trying to say is that an illuvitar which is ranked 182 / 463,319 rarest should be worth more than an illuvitar thats ranked 1693/463319 rarest. especially when both are geyser one is growling tier 1 stage 1 background vs a blushing t4 s1 background which also happens to be a 1 of 1 both non alpha btw. please someone explain to me how i am wrong

[lime axle]

Is it taking the accessories into account? I didn't think it does, but maybe they've added this?

In general, I think it's hard to accurately put a value to items that aren't selling. Most listings are set to prices that no buyers are willing to pay, so we don't really know how far down sellers need to come to reach the right price point. IM does a pretty good job of predicting this, but owners/collectors will always see the longer-term value as being higher than what it shows for today

[restive kettle]

I dont think it does and thats another problem right now, theres illuvitars beeing sold very cheap cause they got bonded poorly so theyre clearly worth less but the tool also takes these sales and devalues all other non bonded illuvitars due to that... but how should they even calculate the value with accessories, would it be a increase or a decrease in value? Hard to say even for us, so how should a algo do that?

[lime axle]

yeah, very true!

[worthy tide]

Great point

[restive kettle]

but yeah in general i also think they should calculate illuvitars separately (each specific illuvitar by its own) so that it cant happen that some illuvitars automatically drag down others just because some may not be liked that much or so that it cant happen that wave 2 illuvitars impact wave 1's that bad even tho they did not even get sold for that low

[worthy tide]

I think a perfectly bonded illuvitar with 20% x5 accessories should be worth more than unbonded also but that's debatable.

[lime axle]

Interestingly for this geyyser comparison, no blushing geyyser with T4 background has ever been sold...

[restive kettle]

i tend to agree but still thats on the individual to decide and def nothing a algo programmed by one or two ppl can do

[lime axle]

You may not be happy with the results there either because sales volume on many of the illuvitars is so low. I'd think it would cause it to fluctuate much more based on one-off low or high sale prices

[restive kettle]

yeah and thats the case for a lot of really rare stuff but they still get downgraded more and more by the IM-algo without any sales.... doesnt make much sense imo

[lime axle]

e.g. it's been about a month since a rhamphyre sold, what if someone needs to unload one for liquidity at $999 today, what's the algo do with that?

[lime axle]

it's hard without more volume, no one will like it, but I think ultimately decreasing volume on secondary means valuations should decrease somewhat. At some point with game release we expect more secondary demand for these and then people may be shocked how fast IM valuations increase

[restive kettle]

i wouldnt mind the tool showing estimates for illuvitars based on real sales, but calculating some fictional price for something that hasnt even been sold since ages seems weird... its like: prices of Hyundai's go down on the secondary so your Bugati is now also worth less.

[lime axle]

High-end ones are odd yeah, I wonder how much just a couple sales up there would move valuations on the rest

couldn't hurt

[restive kettle]

but yeah as you said floors can move quickly once a bit more demand comes in... atm its just everyone buying disks and either holding or selling stuff to buy more disks but not much buying pressure

[worthy tide]

Thats because im not selling it

[lime axle]

haha, it's the only one??

[worthy tide]

So technically its worthless ? 🤣 until i list it ? Its q 1 of 1 so its not like it can get sales data until I decide to sell

A*

[lime axle]

nice!

Just curious, what would people in here be prepared to pay today for this higher end example above?

[worthy tide]

Its the rarest non holo blushing

Hard to say but at a glance I reckon that's worth atleast 2-4 eth

[lime axle]

So maybe IM is right that it's worth more than the growling?

[worthy tide]

Maybe more

[lime axle]

ah, you're saying it's way too low

gotcha

[astral ermine]

people should not get too much focused on the estimated value. illuvialmaster is a small team of few people and i think they are doing a real awesome job

[worthy tide]

They definitely do a good job for a third party and they're contributions are definitely of high value cant deny that

[restive kettle]

i disagree hugely there, i would say it should be worth less than the holo squizzes since rhamphy has a slightly higher dropchance + the disks its from are cheaper... maybe atm theres a bit more demand since ppl are still collecting wave 2's a bit more but long term thats where i see it

[astral ermine]

yes plus i think squizz is more of a fan favorite than rhampy i would say

[restive kettle]

yeah maybe, but you could also argue that rhamphy could be the counterpart to a charmander since ppl see Rhamphyre as the Charizard of illuvium which could then even them out in terms of desireability

[fathom lintel]

People still seem to be confused by the intent of that pricing tool. It is trying to give you an estimated value of what you could sell an illuvitar in the CURRENT market conditions. Not what was their value months ago, not what we could expect their value to be in the future, when more buyers are expected to come.

That value should only concern you if you were trying to sell right now. And yes, that value is heavily affected by the overall lack of buyers on the market, meaning you would have to give a significant discount on what you think the fair price is, if you wanted to sell today.

[still herald]

I disagree with this and i stand behind what has been said previously ... It should be based on sales, period. Each illuvitar should have its own value and estimates and not being heavily influenced by 1 million 10cents monkies sold every day. The Rhamph example is one of the best - why should its value drop just because there are no Rhamphyres sold recently ? How does its VALUE decline every day? Its not like we are getting new Rhamphyres
I strongly disagree that just because some Ophistos went lower in sales, the value of Rhamphyre should be less also.. It's like comparing apples and cherries
While the estimates part is cool (and i do appreciate all the effort put behind it) i think sales are the golden standard when it comes to properly establishing the value of X illuvitar

[still herald]

100% on this .. what if the market goes down for another month or 2? Will illuvitars drop daily to reach the value of almost 0 ?

[still herald]

And secondly, while recency bias SHOULD play a part in this i think it has a way to greater influence on Wave 1 illuvitars and drags the value down way to aggressive

[runic glade]

then it seems you're not looking for estimates on 'current market value'. you're looking for 'what it was once worth value'

[still herald]

What is 'current' market value and who determines the period? 1 day? is 1 week 'current'? or.. ? And how do you establish the value of something if no sales are happening?
Oh if someone placed X card lower and lower and lower and lower until it sells then yes you can say the value of that Illuvitar will go down accordingly .. but by then those 'current estimates' seem flawed to me

[fathom lintel]

The fact that no rhamphyres were sold recently just proves my point that there are no buyers on the market. Therefore, you could only sell a rhamphyre today if you gave a significant discount on the fair value.

You are the one complaining that the pricing tool is showing the wrong "cherries", but it is programmed to show "apples", not "cherries"... VALUE does not equal CURRENT market value.

Their value is not declining, their current market value is. Their value should go up, since there is no more supply and we expect more buyers in the future. All you need to do is hold them.

But the current market value does not care about that, most of the people who could be buyers now, already have one so they are less likely to buy another one. And there are not enough new buyers coming in. As a result, the amount you could sell them for goes down. This is what the pricing tool shows.

[fathom lintel]

Current market value is momentary. It can and will constantly change with market conditions.

[still herald]

Okay let's set one thing straight. I'm looking and talking about true VALUE and not ESTIMATES (i don't care about estimates). That is why i'm saying value is based on sales. And if no sales are happening then it doesn't mean X thing is worth less or should decline.... just let someone place it lower and lower until a sale happens and only THEN the value will drop accordingly ....

[still herald]

Again what is 'momentary'? an hour? a day? .... see my point?

[fathom lintel]

Good, then don't look at this pricing tool, because it is not showing value in your definition. It is trying to give an estimate of how much money you could sell it for right now.

[still herald]

We can agree on this 🙂

[fathom lintel]

There is no time frame for this. The algo is recalculating their value based on every sale, every time it refreshes their database. If you have 2 new buyers for high-end Ophistos, it will also adjust its pricing for Rhamphyres, even though there are no Rham sales.

[still herald]

Even for estimates i don't agree Ophistos should influence the price of Rhamphyres and vice versa - i understand it looks at a market perspective (both being T5S3s) but one dragging down or up the other doesn't make sense ..
Let's just agree to disagree on this one

[lime axle]

Then just look at sales history for the illuvitar you're interested in instead of using IM. It's right there.

[teal sluice]

man, wish I could buy more d1sks. It's so fun opening them

but i gotta save the Silv i still have for wave 3... I am happy with my album, but still a long way to go. sad I couldn't get synalph or ophisto, and only one umbre

[potent tulip]

Plenty of time left in the sale tho 😬

[smoky verge]

I got 3 ophistos at some point, sold em all and now i cant get one for my own album lol

[rich elm]

nah

[rich elm]

Pretty hard to make one. I cant deside 😂

[tepid geyser]

That's mine 😜

[rich elm]

That one is better the more i look at it 😂

[wide swan]

This is close but the a1 should be s tier

[topaz zodiac]

This is so hard beacuse it's tier for me sometimes depends on the featured color 🤔

[pastel bison]

(I like drone 2 becasue it sits well in colour matches with so many Illuvitars)

[topaz zodiac]

I likie this trend

Also got lucky in a standard on the accessories today

[teal sluice]

absurd!

[topaz zodiac]

I forgot who but someone told me once they got 3 T5 accessories in one disk, that is truly absurd lol

[chrome harness]

that's to average out me getting three clown noses (the lowest) in a mega disk

disks are not my friend...lucky at love, unlucky at disks 😉

[topaz zodiac]

Speaking of - megas have been doing me dirty this wave

[chrome harness]

shocking so for me

I think the standard buyers actually came out ahead considering the buying bonuses

unlike wave one

[topaz zodiac]

Agreed

[meager garden]

this is standard fiesta wave

[ionic stratus]

I know it’s personal taste but I am objectively right here. Stage 3 Hex is 🔥 and Stage 2 Drone frames most illuvitars very well. All Nexus BGs make them feel in the illuvium world. I could image a world where stage 1 and 2 Tokens are Stage 2 not 5. Like the shitty Tokens that you bond to Illuvitars eyes.

[tepid geyser]

I like it, but 4,1 and 4,2 above 4,3

You do need to use the marketplace if you are selling:https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1083850124821790790

Just general Beyond chat here.

[onyx briar]

My personal opinion, does not seem like it is a popular one though 😅

[tepid geyser]

It look like the flip reverse of what most people have posted 😂

[onyx briar]

right? lol

[astral ermine]

How? Is there even one illuvitar with that tier 2 stage 1 thats good looking

[onyx briar]

🙂

[astral ermine]

No i mean the shape one you put on C upfront all the other ones haha

[onyx briar]

oh had them reversed

[astral ermine]

Thank you

[onyx briar]

not my fav to be sure, but not that bad

[astral ermine]

Thats the only one

[onyx briar]

lol

[astral ermine]

No no no he can try to hide it but we all know whats behind there

[tepid geyser]

I'm the same, not my favourite, but much preferred over the 1,1 background.

[astral ermine]

We all know we would use him for bonding

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-not-wrong-alexis-rose-alexis-annie-murphy-schitts-creek-gif-20774394

[rotund halo]

Mine would be close to this. Feels like most others criminally underrate the T2 S2 background

[finite zealot]

I know it's a bit crazy to have the lowest BG in the S tier but I love the way the more solid colour of the T1 S1 backgrounds show off the Illuvials. I feel like some of the others are a bit busy and the Illuvial gets lost but that one makes all the Illuvials look good.

[livid bramble]

This is hard because certain Illuvials look extra special with certain backgrounds. For example the flames and spines of the Phyri spell a devilish 666 only in Drone S2

and a humble Teal Photon looks like ice & snow for the Mjoll

This guy is an astronaut

But this one has seen hard times on active duty...

Same cat different stories

Its a blood bath in the den of clowns.

Don't go see the show...

[livid bramble]

Green holo... looks venomous!

[finite zealot]

You are definitely right about different backgrounds really working well with different Illuvials. That background you are showing for Mjoll is my favourite style for that one and for Slashin.

[livid bramble]

Yeah perfect for Slashin!

[frosty knot]

Nice!

[fathom lintel]

This is a fun tool and I'm glad to see varying opinions! I don't think 2 people had the same preferences so far 🙂

Also, there are specific combinations of illuvials + backgrounds that elevate a low tier one to a much higher tier, or the other way around.

And, Monarch is the first illuvial who can wear any backgrounds

[covert ibex]

I'll throw mine out there to show some love to the T4 backgrounds - I go nuts for them no matter the stage

T5 S1 is a notch above the rest for me. I'm surprised and happy to see how different these tier lists look

This T4 Umbre is the best Illuvitar I've seen so far, absolute beast

[solemn dove]

when I try to cancel a listing I get this error message, any ideas how to resolve?

[minor merlin]

try to disconnect your wallet on both imx marketplace and illuvidex.
then try to log in on imx marketplace and try again.

[solemn dove]

okay ill try

[solemn dove]

Still doesnt work on the illuvidex. I managed to cancel lisatings via IMX marketplace instead. so seems to be a problem on illuviums side

[minor merlin]

did you log out on illuvidex too?

[solemn dove]

yeah, tried all sorts

[minor merlin]

ok can you report this to #❓❓〕support so they can look after it.

[runic glade]

@pastel bison you might wanna escalate this, i think the team forgot to upgrade to the latest imx link version, they just sunset the v1's endpoints and illuvidex is relying on them (nobody can list/buy/cancel from illuvidex)

[valid sierra]

@wide swan wake up, time to panic

https://tenor.com/view/caos-bob-esponja-crisis-patricio-gif-23199341

[minor merlin]

team is looking into it. 👍

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539

[midnight prism]

most of the times delete cookies and open everything again or trying another browser

[midnight prism]

most of the times delete cookies and open everything again or trying another browser

[minor merlin]

its not working for me too. buy list and cancel not working right now.

[midnight prism]

ah okay then its problem on their site

[minor merlin]

i guess so. team is looking into it.

[chrome harness]

Did they fix the issue of Illuvitars appear simultaneously in multiple leaderboard accounts at the same time? I continue to have to manually unsleeve then sleeve Illuvitars when I bond them. And of course these are in multiple sleeve points so really a pain.

[astral ermine]

not yet. this might take a few days or weeks

[restive kettle]

but rewards are halted for now right? would not be good to distribute them when this bug is still around....

[tepid geyser]

I would presume so. I think Johnny was pushing for this.
They would be resumed once the bug is fixed.
I don't think we have actually had any confirmation on this as of yet though.

[weary mist]

Can anybody help me on when actually the snapshot for weekly leaerboard rewards takes place?

[tepid geyser]

Wednesday, Midnight UTC if i'm not mistaken.

[weary mist]

tanks a million

[smoky verge]

What does this mean though, is that the tuesday to wednesday or wednesday to thursday? 😄

[tepid geyser]

😆 Good point, Wednesday midnight, leading into Thursday am.

[smoky verge]

Thank you hahaha

[chrome harness]

seems like an easy fix...check for large scale amounts held in two or more accounts. If someone has one or two that is not going to make a difference. There is no reason to punish valid leaderboard accounts by not paying out rewards, unless they are going to retroactively do it, but that seems like a a pain also as there will be changes week to week....

we have bots for everything: just have one checking ids of all album holdings, and then reporting to someone duplicates...it it seems sustantial have the person reboot their account whipping out all holdings and resleeve. Which is also a royal pain, but will solve the issue.

[restive kettle]

I assumed they would hold it like last time, 2x rewards in the following X weeks for each week that rewards got halted... think that would be fine for most

[chrome harness]

be nice to be fixed...I seriously doubt there are criminal masterminds on the leaderboard lol
But this shouldn't happen just from a functional standpoint, as well as leaderboard.
That being said, I thought about what lead to all this and I thought "damn, I'd sell my album for 12k too!" and then I thought, why did they buy the album? And roughly, at current ILV prices, it works out to a 15% annual return. Now for crypto that's hardly worth getting out of bed for, but if ILV does what we hope it does, well......

*led not lead

(assuming the album was in the top 50)

[keen forum]

you have a ROI of 15% but you have to consider that you have to buy the whole new collection at an excellent rarity at each wave, so change the tax base on which to calculate the ROI, and it is not 100% safe to have ILV as a reward. The collection is certainly very nice, but my bet with Beyond is that there is a good game since I bought the wave 1. If you hope that ilv will grow so much in value, it would be much better to buy ilv directly and not the illuviatars

[chrome harness]

yes, I hope they have time to develop a game and just not use the images to promote and be used in other peoples games. I play Gods unchained (under same name as here fyi) and I would gladly shift to play an Illuvitar card game instead. Don't know about race cars but some people love that idea also.

[chrome harness]

I appear to have swallowed the purple/dark blue pill 😉

[fathom frigate]

Whilst this argument is valid, what’s then the point of the pfps? Only the rarest will hold any value in which case 90% are pointless

[chrome harness]

gamestop disks for sale on the secondary are dropping? at what price would you buy one? Alas for me it would need to fall almost in half again.....too many outcomes at the low end not worth very much....

[smoky verge]

I wont buy any until i know the collection rewards.
Im not sure whether this assumption is correct but thats how i feel about it: Mega d1sks would give you better odds at T5 S2. And i have plenty of dash / lynxes and krunks.

But im also not someone to go for the leaderboard. If I did, I may want to test my luck... maybe if i was a whale :]

[chrome harness]

keep forgetting about collection rewards...are those supposed to be ILV or skins, etc. tied to account?

[keen forum]

It depends on the use that illuviatars will have in the ecosystem of illuvium, the idea behind illuvium is that everything is connected, so I think that one day they can be used in some way also in Illuvium Zero. If a really good card game will come out instead even the value of each IB will increase a lot, unfortunately I could not buy everything in 2x so I will not be able to sell anything

[alpine dew]

skins and emotes, ILV rewards is reserved for leaderboard

[barren linden]

This is a newb question but anyway, can these NFTs be imported to Metamask? Or can I still send them to anyone with an ETH wallet as I want to gift some. I am just not sure if they need to link to IMX or Illuvium to view them?

[alpine dew]

you can withdrawl Illuvitars to Eth mainnet

not sure of how you can view them though

[undone urchin]

What's the point of playing beyond wace 2 right now?

Can we earn anything ?

[minor merlin]

Wave 2 is the 2nd collection of Set 1.
You can earn ILV if you can come in the Top 100 of the Leaderboard.

[midnight prism]

someone know how much disks got minted and opened so far?

[minor merlin]

Check this page #💰〕token message

[smoky verge]

I forgot to make a photo but i got the Gamestop diskplate delivered to me yesterday

[rich elm]

Recieved it yesterday to. Didnt had any e-mail that it was coming so it was nice surprise.

[restive kettle]

Nice, was it still a holo one or are the non holos rolling out now?

[smoky verge]

Non holo are rolling out 😏

[pseudo pagoda]

I'll be watching for the DHL man or woman my dog loves them haha

[royal anvil]

@frosty knot did the team make a mistake in making these wave 0? Its also in IMX.

If you filter tier 0 wave 2 they dont come up

[potent tulip]

they are wave 0

[finite zealot]

I was looking at that the other day, wishing for a way we could separate the T0's into the ones in Wave 1 vs Wave 2.

[slender jetty]

surprised they havent thought about this or implemented yet. We will have many more waves with T0's that this feature would be useful for

[midnight prism]

i think wave 0 will be all illuvials which are shared in all waves

[royal anvil]

So tier 0s are wave 0s?

Why is there no wave 0 in the filters?

[finite zealot]

There's going to be so many of them for people to scroll through in the future to find specific ones.I was looking for a new Cheeky Nature Atippo and was glad we were only 2 waves in.

[tepid geyser]

Shouldn't they be wave 1 tier 0, wave 2 tier 0, wave 3 tier 0, etc?
Why is wave 0 a thing?

[minor merlin]

They shouldn't have a wave because they are in every wave. Only tier 0 should be enough

[tepid geyser]

I can see it making sense if they was all the same, but since each wave comes with their own unique backgrounds, each set of tier 0's are unique to their particular wave and should be searchable that way.
By the end of the set it is going to be very difficult trying to locate a specific tier 0 from wave 3 for instance.

[smoky verge]

all Tier zeroes are from Wave 0

It didn't scroll down pardon me xD

[livid bramble]

My ILV/Gamestop plate arrived. Thoughtfully packed so everything was in good condition. Cheers!

[royal anvil]

Yeah this is what I was thinking as well. Since each wave have different backgrounds for Tier 0s then it should be lumped in together with the wave

[pseudo pagoda]

I was thinking $ 5.00 ...

If they all sell thats 380k

[topaz zodiac]

oh wow that's a lot

yeah I was thinking it would be like 25 maybe 50 max

I am not use to the game though, what do their other packs go for?

[meager garden]

insanity pricing for any game

[chrome harness]

and while were at it the two expressions of lynx in each wave are not searchable in illuvdex either! Sort of a pain if you are nimble lynx for example

[meager garden]

I really don't like Illuvium being involved with these grab money projects

[chrome harness]

yeah, I think it cheapens the brand, and it's not a very good game either

They could do the same with Illuvitars in house

[meager garden]

may this be a lesson to who we partner up with

[pseudo pagoda]

@meager garden kinda made for use to buy into who else knows to care hopefully it brings them to illuvium

[meager garden]

I really don't see this bringing ppl to illuvium. I bet 99/100 loses value opening that pack. Which is a negative experience which they'll associate with illuvium

[chrome harness]

and we are not at a point to bring people in anyway...there are no real valid games as such at this point

hope ILV at least made some money off it, like GS did off our promo

[dreamy raven]

That pricing point are severely limiting their reach. Wonder why they would choose such a strategy

[vernal pumice]

when the wave 2 will be add to the album?

[tepid geyser]

It's already there

[vernal pumice]

why I can't see it.. will explore!

[tepid geyser]

Is it there when you select "waves" in the menu?

[vernal pumice]

yes I see it now but I can't bond anything to my album... for example I have clown nose but try to add it to my album. It don't seem to accept it. Even with the ID.

[pseudo pagoda]

Led picture frame haha

[vernal pumice]

I just bought my first disk from wave 2 but I can't add nothing to my album. Never bought a disk from wave 1. Is this a bug or I need to do something to my profile?

[meager garden]

the cigar placing looks off

[tepid geyser]

You do have to bond the accessories to your illuvitar to be able to sleeve it in the correct accessory slot.
You cannot sleeve accessories directly.

In regards to your account not recognising your illuvitars, you may need to logout and back in again.
If that fails, disconnect your wallet and reconnect. This usually solves the issue.

[vernal pumice]

Thanks working now!

[tepid geyser]

Nice. Glad you got it sorted.

[minor merlin]

Please report in #❓❓〕support thanks

[sick dock]

can someone share the link of the cards of illuvium ? whats that about ?

also would like to know when we will recive the nft of gamestop diskplate ?

[rich elm]

Lol that is pretty expensive. Anyone here bought one? 😂

[minor merlin]

It's on magic Eden. It's from the game cards of ethernity.
The NFT's from the GameStop sale are coming soon.

[meager garden]

I doubt it

[void grail]

https://tenor.com/view/simba-lion-king-throw-yeet-fuck-that-gif-17471091

[frosty knot]

CoE has a community actively participating, it was a great deal for our DAO

The artwork is quite cool also, good opporunity to show the Illuvials in a different art style 🙂

[meager garden]

I like the optimism @frosty knot but since you are part of the strategy subcouncil can I ask you what you think of a pack of cards costing 175$?

[frosty knot]

Very poor and not something I'd engage with

[meager garden]

glad to read that

we should keep in mind that charizards selling for thousands of $, that valuation doesn't come from the pack pricing

that high price tag just gives a bad experience to whoever buys it

[frosty knot]

Yeah, I'm definitely not going to defend the price. As I understand it they have an active player base engaging with the product

[meager garden]

I'm sure they do, probably web3 players. Which is still a very small playerbase.

hoping illuvium will be the breakthrough game

[pseudo pagoda]

@frosty knot it's kinda like alpha simulation not limited item but limited time sets total count low compared to 2222 limited packs at 179 sets limits

It's a hard game to simulating it still needs to have a organic outcome with out fomo of course

Plus side is are most common illuvitar are now valued at just under $30 usd going off price they have listed for the one pack divided by 6 didffrant illuvitar s

[gilded sage]

is there a way to sort your collection by power anywhere?

[meager garden]

only on illuvial master

[young tide]

No rewards distribution this week ?

[vague void]

Beyond card game will be sick... I wanna use the Illuvitars

[sharp sigil]

Is it planned for this year? I thought it is not getting priority at this stage...

[fierce island]

Any new game has to be approved by the council

Just because you may have heard people talk about a new game doesn't mean it is happening

[vague void]

I’m just expressing my desire for a beyond game. Would love to see utility n more fun for beyond.

[tepid geyser]

A lot of people share the same sentiment.
I believe that it is a matter of when not if. The desire is strong and the opportunity is vast.

[chrome harness]

and honestly beyond is the only things adding value to the ecosystem right now, and for this whole year so far. Let us go above and beyond 😉

[serene python]

Would be Kind of sad if they do cardgame with illuvitars, if so most likely they won't do one for illuvials. 😔

[tepid geyser]

Illuvials get plushies 😄, and a Netflix series 🤞.

[meager garden]

were rewards halted?

[dreamy cipher]

No they usually get distributed tommorrow. Snap shot for this week should have been taken already

[meager garden]

I think you got it backwards...

snapshot is tomorrow

[chrome harness]

yes

[dreamy cipher]

distribution doesn't happen today

[exotic mica]

What are the ladders about the earning for being on the ILV Leaderboard please?

[meager garden]

it did last week

[chrome harness]

100-51= .5 Ilve
11-50 is 1 ilve

[exotic mica]

And where can I claim the squizz diskplate ?

And 1-11?

[dreamy cipher]

was Wednesday

[meager garden]

bro...

[dreamy cipher]

bra

[meager garden]

today is wednesday aswell

[dreamy cipher]

depends on your time zone brio

[astral ermine]

there is a bug with the leaderboard. I think we get an official message soon

[dreamy cipher]

What kind of "bug" I have had zero issues

[meager garden]

the bug has been there the entire time

so if rewards were halted there should have been an announcement

[astral ermine]

maybe they filter out the duplicates manually

[frosty knot]

Won't be a moment, we have a fix In Review as of this morning. Speaking with Johnny and Kieran about next steps 🙂

[chrome harness]

The trouble is anyone who did any selling or bonding will have had some issues....the key is was it significant to change payout ranges...doubtful for most of accounts. You literally would have to sold a whole album 😉

but good to fix no matter what

[chrome harness]

love to see the T5 access. dropping so much so fast! No way I would pay 1k for an access. but if they drop in half again from these prices I might have to fill a few album holes. And those of you looking to sell some high end ones, maybe put them on a nice illuvitar and put a big discount on it and I'll be glad to take it 😉

[livid bramble]

I think a lot of the accessories will start to drop in price soon as the bonding pressure reduces, and more standard disks give items to sell. I will probably buy another 50 Standard Disks to open - not because I need Illuvitars or accessories now but I'm still chasing some of the bonus milestone rewards which have been excellent this wave.

[light epoch]

Waiting for Battle in the Beyond to drop, so I can ope more disk

[wide swan]

I want to actually see it in action

[light epoch]

I applied for Beta tester since i want to the action first hand .

[wide swan]

Ah nice @untold slate 👀 wennn

[karmic scroll]

Hi all, regarding the post by Kieran, does anyone know if last weeks snapshot will still get rewards today? Obviously tomorrows leaderboard won’t be counted, just wondering if the reward that was to be paid out today will still be. thanks for your time

[wide swan]

We are going to speak to council and decide how to proceed, for now they are paused though

[karmic scroll]

Thanks Rich 👍🏻

[pure pulsar]

who broke the leaderboard lol

[pure pulsar]

since the first snapshot?

[untold slate]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-soon-gif-18010036

[meager garden]

yes ofc. They only found the bug now because ppl sold their accounts and were still appearing in the leaderboard after transfering their illuvitars

I say the snapshots should continue as normal and you have to weed out manually the bad actors

[pure pulsar]

what if people have been abusing the bug since the beginning

[meager garden]

I doubt it but yeah it's possible if anyone caught it

it is what it is

[valid sierra]

Oh damn didn't know that

[sharp sigil]

I think that issue appeared recently only. I dont think it was there since the beginning

[valid sierra]

Ouch poop emoji on the announcement

[meager garden]

no need to be that harsh I doubt anyone was abusing this intentionally

you do need to be a top 100 wallet...

[ionic stratus]

I don’t care about rewards I’m only in it for the art

[fathom frigate]

Damn I’m glad I didn’t buy all those mega disks would have been gutted to miss out on rewards

[fathom frigate]

Are there bad actors though?

[meager garden]

I personally don't think so, but can't say for sure

[sharp sigil]

Illuvium beyond has had multiple major bugs, including problems with the album collection and leaderboard, in the 5 months since its launch. This is not a good look for the game.

Illuvium set the bar for quality standards, but I am disappointed with what has happened with Illuvium Beyond.

[tepid geyser]

To be fair though, there is always going to be bugs. Name one game that doesn't have bugs.
It is how they deal with them that is most important.
Rewards are paused in the meantime, but we all know that everyone will be made good and that they will be actively working to resolve the issue as soon as possible.
That's how I see it anyway 😜 .

[smoky verge]

True, we couldnt even get on the leaderboard in the beginning. 😄

[pure pulsar]

no surprise here. ILV strongest suit is graphic. both of our staking contracts got issue

[smoky verge]

Im just happy they are noticing and fixing all these things in this bear market. Would have been much more glaring if we had thousands of players.

[sharp sigil]

I agree that no product is ever 100% bug-free, but I believe that Illuvium should learn from its mistakes and consistently improve the quality of its game. This includes fixing major bugs that affect the distribution of rewards. For example, the sleeve by ID feature was originally introduced as a temporary solution to avoid issues that the Illuvium team could not fix. However, this feature has now become permanent, and it is clear that there are still some binding issues that need to be addressed.

[pure pulsar]

this is the problem with web3 gaming. game bugs and contract bugs. axie lost $600m

[sharp sigil]

Yes. I am aware that the Illuvium team is working to fix the existing bugs, but I am concerned that new bugs keep appearing that affect the distribution of rewards. This is not a good look for the game, and it is affecting the players' confidence in Illuvium Beyond as a product.

[meager garden]

now is the time to fix these bugs. We should be glad they are happening at this stage and not later. It's still hard to find good web3 contract developers

that's the thing with bugs... They were there all along but something specific has to happen for them to manifest

[sharp sigil]

I understand that it is difficult to find web3 developers and testers, but that should not be an excuse for the quality of the product. I believe that the Illuvium team would not agree with this either. I am confident that they will learn from their mistakes and come back with a better product soon. I am simply expressing my feelings here, and I know that many of us feel the same way. It is important to provide genuine feedback to the team so that they can address the issues that are important to us.

[meager garden]

I've been pushing on the leaderboard so I'm a bit turned off by this as well. But we gotta see the big picture imo. Bugs may not be mistakes but an oversight of something so. These things take time to perfect. I believe in the team.

[meager garden]

not saying it's a bad actor but AtlasKing#420 account clearly is bugged for example

they just need to check all the top 100 accounts and see if there is any illuvitar ID repeated

after that comes the hard part of finding what's causing the selling and transfering bug that still keeps the illuvitar in their album

[pine crag]

You always seem to be where the drama is. Or is it the other way arround. 👀

[chrome harness]

and, in my experience, this has only been an issue recently, not the whole time. I discovered it by accident, as I bonded and then found the formally unbonded Illuvitar was still in sleeves, so it literally cost me points (I usually caught the main sleeves but not all the elements eg). I did report it, and they pretty much said it's on my end, which of course was wrong, and that was disappointing. At long as they pay out valid leaderboard positions eventually, I'm fine. I doubt it's an overall integrity issue, but it certainly is an operational issue that needs to be addressed.

[fathom lintel]

I'm pretty sure the issue appeared with wave 2 going on sale. I only noticed it when I was bonding wave 2 illuvitars and it did not happen with wave 1. I would have noticed it as I was bonding throughout wave 1 due to the leaderboard.

[chrome harness]

Yes, that is the right timing....and good catch! I only was bonding wave 2 illuvitars (or selling, etc.) Also I think that they outsource tech support was an issue. They didn't seem to understand what I was saying to them. Don't know what we can do about that, and I understand why as a small studio they do that.....

now, to fix last weeks they will have to manually adjust and then see what the point totals were I'm afraid, but we'll see. It should be a simple tech fix going forward though....

[pure pulsar]

how do u know they outsource tech support?

[wide swan]

Week 16 Rewards Distributed:

We proceeded with last weeks as some investigation was done to see how much really changed, as in the #📣〕announcements rewards will be paused from here until the fix is completed

[chrome harness]

Yeah, I think you'll find, other than the blaring album sale issue which was caught, that most of the rest of the "errors" will not make much of a difference. eg as I went though and checked each one of my holdings (!) one area I found was access. sleevings were off in a few cases where I no longer held that Illuvitar that had that access (didn't even think to check that, because before we didn't have to)...but in almost all cases I had multiple other illuvitars with that access. for roughly the same points. And when you hit a million it's not even a rounding error if you subtract 3k anyway as example.

Inflection points like 100, 50 and top 10 are the only place it might matter. So thanks, I think you did the right thing, and glad it's being fixed too! And by paused, will they be made up when fixed? (I hope). There is not a ton of us here, but we are dedicated and to some of us, the ILV does make a difference. Honestly I first bought land, than did beyond, and if not for beyond I might have just sold my land and looked elsewhere, so at least in my case this "game" sunk me further into ILV and to swallow the blue/purple pill for the long run 😉

[chrome harness]

the people I interacted with were from zen, which is a crypto tech support firm...they do GU as example also

[midnight prism]

damn alot of cheap illuvitars getting listed

[chrome harness]

yep, some pulling out

luckily someone is grabbing them

looks like progamer raising some cash

[pure pulsar]

bear market hits hard

[wide swan]

Once we have the fix done we will decide how to continue rewards, maybe thats one week of double if its delayed one week, maybe something else. Not my call but I will let you know once we have the info.

[chrome harness]

Thanks and good job communicating! Hopefully not a big fix...I mean it worked fine before wave 2 so hopefully just a crossed wire

[meager garden]

don't forget to pin it @wide swan

[wide swan]

Thank you ser

[chrome harness]

and this may be unrelated, but if they can easily fix the autofill so it chooses the highest point total illuvitar for that sleeve vs the rarest, as often my common are what I bonded and therefore are worth more for the leaderboard than the rare.

[dreamy raven]

Do you mean Zendesk? The #1 help desk software?

[chrome harness]

indeed! So that was ILV poeple using that software?

If so, they should have caught this issue weeks ago when I brought it up to them.

I thought it was an outsource firm.

That actually makes it worse lol

But again, I'm sure this, other than the hassle and technical fix, is overall not a big issue.

Part of life in cryptoland

[lime axle]

I try to make videos of bugs for them where possible, seems to help.

[dreamy raven]

Yeah. Weird they didn’t caught it. They have been nothing but excellent in my interactions

[wide swan]

Depends on who caught the ticket, there is some outsource people but they handle lower priority or less complex issues, it could’ve just been simply mislabeled as such

Our internal support guys don’t miss

[chrome harness]

I bet that's what happened Rich, and it was someone who didn't seem to understand what I was talking about (though that happens a lot...even to me 😉
And to be fair, I just brought it up as a sleeving issue, not a leaderboard issue, because I wasn't smart enough to think of that angle...just lazy 😉

[fossil kraken]

Nice one

[potent tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/thank-you-bow-michael-scott-the-office-gif-18616386

[astral ermine]

Congrats on your new title! and please sign my next diskplate

[potent tulip]

haha 😄 let me know when its at the shop 😂 maybe i see it somewhere and ill scratch on it 😄 but on the back theres the printed one ofc

[steady ether]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/378648

LFGGG only other one listed is 3 ETH!!!!

these discs are the best for the bear market blues

[rich elm]

Lowest non alpha is 80 dollar. Alpha doesnt 10x your illuvitar 😂

[pseudo pagoda]

@rich elm it's random alpha effect depending if any non alpha exists haha

T5 br none alpha one alpha 4

[tepid geyser]

In some scenarios I could see that it could be play out.
Right now there are 40 holo unlimited Peckish Ebb, and only 6 Alphas.
Those numbers will keep rising, so it is feasible that if it does end up 10x+ rarer, it could fetch 10x the price tag of an unlimited.
I think other factors such as background etc would help, the example above being the least rare one available, it doesn't get any benefit there.

[rich elm]

Maybe in the future yeah but thats all speculation. For now i dont think anyone gonna pay 1k for that one. Personally i would rather have one with a rare background then a apha with a basic tier 1 stage 1 background.

But yeah only 6 alpha is pretty scarce

[tepid geyser]

True. I don't either to be honest with this particular example.
With how rare Alphas are this wave though I wouldn't be surprised if we do see some fetch 10x the price of an unlimited.
They are vastly outnumbered by unlimited, especially when comparing the ratio to wave 1. We've also only just begun this wave, so they will only continue to get much rarer in comparison.

[tepid geyser]

There's only 500 Alpha mega disks too. Well done to those that picked them up. Silly rare.

[finite zealot]

Nice one!

Something I really love about the Louluras is how the flowers are different depending on the expression rarity. It's a really nice touch. I think it every time I see one.

[chrome harness]

wait, aren't you just congratulating yourself? 😉

[gritty gazelle]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/489878

anyone know what this would be worth?

[tepid geyser]

No, I didn't stock up on any Alpha disks. Kind of regretting it a bit 😄 .

[barren linden]

Comes up with this msg? has anyone actually imported to MM I know I can send to other wallets just trying to find a simple way for my friends to recieve and view without having IMX account or Illuvium account....

[sharp sigil]

I also didn't but purchased lots of alpha standard d1sks and they are not bad at all

[tepid geyser]

Standards do seem pretty OP this wave. Hope megas get some love next wave 🥲

[pastel bison]

Talking of standards:

2-1 background not really visible, but visually it come out quite nice in that colour

[karmic scroll]

honestly one of the smoother backgrounds for ophisto i’ve seen, jealous 😭

[restive kettle]

Nice gz! You also planning to buy more standards this time compared to the last wave i guess?

[pastel bison]

The Wave 3 bonuses are hard to ignore.

[restive kettle]

Yep yep

[pastel bison]

Plus I bought a bunch of megas yesterday and wasn't thrilled at the outcome, so standards today 😉

[restive kettle]

I see

Yeah i feel like a good mix is the way to go... some megas for the hits and a lot of standards for the goals

[pastel bison]

Yeah sometimes you need a dose of megas after you get a batch of average standards, at least megas give you shinies a lot of the time 😉

[restive kettle]

But i think i would prefer it if megas would just count for 6x standards towards the goals so that you could freely buy whatever you want and dont feel like youre missing something

[pastel bison]

I think thats a likely change next time around (or some variation thereof)

[restive kettle]

Maybe lower the amount of bonusdisks therefore and we should be good to go

So make it only 1 mega for the value of 25 standards or a equivalent in megas

Or something like that

[pastel bison]

yeah council will come up with something

I think there are a lot of ways do it

[pastel bison]

PS for sale for just a touch above IM value if you like it 😉

(see market channel)

[normal steeple]

Pulled this one couple of weeks back. Same back ground, Love it!

[pastel bison]

🦾

[livid bramble]

I know its extra work you don't need right now, but when I order my special plate can I ask if you to sign it too...? I'd really appreciate it if you can.

[chrome harness]

Wow, a few whole albums for sale. Question when doing direct sale between two individuals (ie no illuvidex) how do you know you'll get your money or Illuvitars in the exchange?

[tepid geyser]

I imagine you don't. It will take trust.

[chrome harness]

that is what I was afraid of....you and Johnny would be about the only two I would as of this point lol

Plus I like that Illuvium gets a cut through the illuvidex

sorta like how I shop at an organic food co-op as a member 😉

but illuvidex prices need to drop a lot more for me to be interested at this point

[restive kettle]

Pretty happy with these two guys i just found on the market... both almost 5000 power, imo not too shabby for that price

[tepid geyser]

Madness what people are willing to sell these for. Less than the price of 5 megas.

[frosty knot]

Agreed, I don't think I have a single Illuvitar with that kind of power

[karmic scroll]

prebonded like that?

[restive kettle]

Yeah i mean it wasnt listed that cheap, i made offers and the seller exepted... pretty happy ngl 😁

[frosty knot]

Hey guys! Sharing some example of the quality improvements @onyx goblet has worked on!

This is an example of what you're currently seeing in Production

This is an example of the image quality we're about to start serving in Production

(Download the file and open on your machine, the image quality is dramatic)

[tepid geyser]

Amazing! Night and day

[frosty knot]

The impact should be even greater in Holo's

So that's quite exciting

[restive kettle]

Looks much better indeed, altough the eyescar doesnt fit very well with the hat 😅

[frosty knot]

Yep, raised a bug report

[tepid geyser]

Got my name back 😂

[wide swan]

Oh snap

[hasty grotto]

anybody want this its going for 10 times current estimated price top 20 wave 2 iluvitar

lol

[hasty grotto]

let me check the bondings 😉

[hasty grotto]

I officially declare Alexa back congratulations Wave 1 bonding confirm'd

[fathom frigate]

Are the leaderboards back to normal or rewards still halted?

[tepid geyser]

Still halted until we see an announcement telling us otherwise.

[pseudo pagoda]

@tepid geyser most probably only identify you as a living illuvitar

[pine crag]

I am so jaelous for your pfp

This must look crazy in 4k when you see with how much love this was drawn.

[tepid geyser]

Thanks.
I'm really looking forward to those too, especially after seeing the teasers from Nick earlier. They look incredible.

[minor merlin]

got this one from a standart d1sk

looking good with this background

[tepid geyser]

Those standards keep delivering the goods.
The colours work really well together on that one 😍 .

[pine crag]

Yes, reminded me on how much work is behind illuvium beyond and that many people are selling much too low at the moment 😁

[pine crag]

Very special combination I love it!

[cold vale]

At first, I didn't believe my eyes, then I realized it was just a lion not holo lynx )

[chrome harness]

do any of you see much extra value in a bonded alpha? Don't get me wrong, if I see it at the same price as a bonded non-alpha, then I might grab it. But I sure wouldn't pay a premium just because it's alpha, because , except in rare cases, it probably diminishes it's "collectability" when bonded, if alphas keep that bonus in the future at all.

[tepid geyser]

I personally wouldn't add any value for a bonded alpha, quite the opposite.
As long as the population of a particular Alpha is equal to or lower than the unlimited counterpart, it should always carry a premium (unless bonded).

[bleak crown]

kieran is famous

[meager garden]

just cheap kieran

[pine crag]

Would you be interested to sell your holo blazing or holo shy ophisto a bit over market price or no chance at all?

[tepid geyser]

Sorry I don't think I could let them go.
They are of the rarity that if I did, I would have to accept the high probability that I will never own one again.
It would have to be a price considerably above current market to consider that.
Also taking into account that current market conditions across the board are pretty smashed right now, so not an optimal time to sell in general.
A bit long winded of an answer but I didn't just want to say, no! 😄 .

[pine crag]

You are too nice!
Thougt you would write "never" ☺️

Indeed I know it s not a good idea to sell. I Exactly thought the same if I don't try to buy one now I will most likely never ever own one of them as there will be only a few.

Maybe you can make me a quote per dm for your holo shy ophisto. What sales price would be conftable for you.

[potent tulip]

theres 4 signatures on the back of each plate.. mind should barely be on there,, the people doing the work are Dan Sofia and Svetlana 😄

id feel bad signing them 😛

ive only made a select amount and the backgrounds

[wide swan]

I think @tepid geyser knows why

[astral ermine]

you betrayed them

[wide swan]

They went to a better home

I couldnt foster them anymore

[rich elm]

You forgot one 👀 😂

[astral ermine]

The rarest Slashin. I only picked the top 21 i think and dont want to add too many

[rich elm]

Seems like they changed something with the rarity ranking. The slashin was ranked higher. Dunnow how it works now. Slashin has a chance of 1 out of 4.180.593 and the Rhamn 1 out of 2.028.192. How come the slashin is lower on the rankings then by example this Rham?

[midnight prism]

its the charizard of illuvium you always need add x10 to the rarity score

[rich elm]

😂

[tepid geyser]

I think it has to do with the base level rarity of the Rhamphyre.
If I remember correctly @coral moth posted a more in depth explanation of this. I can't seem to locate it though 😩 .
It isn't a mistake though.

[coral moth]

https://medium.com/@illuvialmaster/illuvialmaster-rarity-score-373162276348

[rich elm]

The similar chance probarly. Its higher on the rham. Still the overal odds of getting it would say the slashin is rarer. But i cant complain if it is in the same range as a those other badboys 😂

[coral moth]

Not based on similar chance.
Medium article goes in depth

[tepid geyser]

Thanks for posting.

[rich elm]

Thnx for the Article. It may be me but i cant really find the awnser as to what makes by example the rham higher in ranks then the slashin even though the latter one has les probability in occuring.

[coral moth]

"This is because our pure odds metric has some flaws in unequal weighting of categories. Put simply, the higher number of traits in a category, the more “weight” that the odds metric gives."
"To demonstrate this, we can take backgrounds vs expressions. The odds to get a rare expression are 1 in 10 or 10%. While the odds to get a tier 2 stage 1 background are 14%. Rare expressions seem like they should have a bit more rarity associated to them, right? Because there are so many more possibilities for backgrounds, the pure odds get squeezed down. "
"Our new score relies on the odds to get each trait or a better trait. So in the example above the odds to get a rare expression are still 10%, as there is no better expression. The background does change though. As there are quite a few more backgrounds that are better than tier 2 stage 1. The odds of getting equal or better goes all the way to 33.9%!"

[coral moth]

Basically using only odds overweights backgrounds as there are so many backgrounds to get

[still herald]

Finally made it in the Ophisto club! 😄

[smoky verge]

Bruvvvv

[smoky verge]

Dont tell me this was from a regular d1sk please.

[still herald]

Then i won't tell you anything 😄

[smoky verge]

No really!? Wtf

[still herald]

yeah well after ~100 megas of nothing of worth i think i deserve it 😄

[smoky verge]

Yeah thats a fair bit of shit haha Goddang i wish i had gotten one of those omnipotent ones 🤩

[still herald]

The best of luck to you! 🙂

[tepid geyser]

Hell of a way to enter it 😄

[still herald]

Thank you ! It took longer than 'planned' but still glad to be here 😄

[chrome harness]

so, when do we see Ophisto under $1k on the market? 😉

[tepid geyser]

There has been at least 1 sale under $1k, had firework bg too.

[pseudo pagoda]

Hows the game stop disk plates going non holo ?

[tepid geyser]

Rolling out. Some have been received already.

[wanton hearth]

Hi. Is there a link to stretched rewards for beyond? Are there pictures of the battle boards anywhere? Thanks

[alpine dew]

I havent seen any pictures of the battle boards

[frosty knot]

Doka Dojo which is an Account Bound Reward enabled when the Tier Zero Collection is completed.

Hall of Holograms - Battleboard an Account Bound Reward enabled when the Set 1 Collection is completed.

I can't share without Rogier providing approval.

[frosty knot]

Beyond Wave 2 - Battleboard

Comes in Standard and Holo Variations Unlocked by completing Individual Rewards specific to Illuvium Beyond Wave 2.

Standard is shown above.

I believe these have been shared before, unfortunately I can't share the Battle boards unless Rogier has given his nod of approval.

[alpine dew]

oh wow those are the ones you get !!!!

[frosty knot]

The Wave 2 Battle Board in Holo look's insane imo.

[alpine dew]

I could imagine 👀

these are so Cool!

I feel like these even if they are just 2d images atm need to be shown off during Wave 2!

[frosty knot]

Yes I agree

[alpine dew]

lets all pressure @potent tulip to leak the holo wave 2 battle board!! 😄

[covert ibex]

This looks incredible, so glad I decided to go for it

[covert ibex]

I don’t want to see it, I promised myself I was done buying D1sks

[wide swan]

The board itself isn’t Holo

Just to be clear

[frosty knot]

Not with that attitude @wide swan

[wide swan]

Just saying to avoid any confusion there

I could see people complaining that the board isn’t Holo enough when it was never meant to be Holo

Lol

[frosty knot]

Yeah it's the skin surrounding the Board itself

for sure

[wide swan]

Then rogier just quits

[alpine dew]

that's what I was envisioning

the illvitars being holo

[wide swan]

Well you have 200iq so that’s to be expected

Like 67 higher than @rancid bison

[alpine dew]

https://tenor.com/view/joey-tribbiani-friends-smile-ramzes19-scromnyaga-gif-18005544

🤣

Wait is 200 iq high or not lol

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-smile-happy-gif-5108830

[wide swan]

Apparently not

[wanton hearth]

Beautiful

[pastel bison]

coffee and d1sks time!

best part of my morning 😉

[frosty knot]

Reminder that the Individual Stretch Goal Rewards are tradeable NFTs unlike the Collection Completion Rewards

Just wanting to ensure that is crystal clear

[restive kettle]

Does anyone have data on how many wallets are holding wave 2 illuvitars or wave 2 disks?

[remote saddle]

Im more curious to see how many wallets hit each stretch goal for wave 2

[fathom lintel]

It is beautiful! I can't help but wonder though how is rypter and the baby turtle on the wave 2 battleboard when they are not included in wave 2??

[astral ermine]

can you buy up the things and then receive the reward and sell after or is the reward only active aslong as all conditions met

[frosty knot]

To receive the Individual Stretch Goal Reward the D1SKs should be minted by the user wallet.

Those D1SKs can be sold on secondary, held, or loaded (opened)

Once you receive the reward it can be bought, sold, traded, held, used in-game

[astral ermine]

noo i mean for the collection completion rewards

i mean sell after the illuvitars

and keep the reward

[frosty knot]

The Collection Completion Rewards are only available on the Account while the Users has that Collection Complete in the Album

[astral ermine]

ah nice

[finite zealot]

I know this was talked about but don't know what rhe final decisions were.

Can D1skplates of an Illuvitar only be done once? If yes, will there be some sort of mark showing that Illuvitar has been made already?

[frosty knot]

No, a D1SKPLATE can be printed any number of times

[gilded sage]

[alpine dew]

beautiful

[mossy turtle]

i cant filter illuvitars by illuvial line

[pseudo pagoda]

@mandrill i challenge you to take my spot !

Happy be in top 200 probably not for long

[meager garden]

how to download high-res pfp?

[astral ermine]

download file is webp you can convert that to png

[rich elm]

Damn that high res is pretty slick

[tepid geyser]

Didn't think they could improve on these, but somehow they managed it!

[meager garden]

so sick

[tepid geyser]

Yeah, they really knocked it out of the park with this one.

[urban pawn]

Finally, diamond rank

[restive kettle]

Wait what, wave one alphas stamps are white now and wave 2 golden? They prob switched them around right? Wave 1 should be golden no?

[serene python]

Isn't the white actually the obereum Material which is rarest ore in illuvium?

[finite zealot]

Me neither.

[serene python]

#1123318798712315915 message

[restive kettle]

Ok nvm

Think it still gets sorted...?

Its all messed up atm... at least on tokentrove

[livid bramble]

Enjoying the improved fidelity! Great work team, my Illuvitar images now look great!

[tepid geyser]

Looks incredible! 😍

[restive kettle]

daimn holos lookin sick now

[tepid geyser]

So clean. Can't get over the quality. Beyond next level.

[restive kettle]

look at those eyes

goliant also looking really sharp now

[bleak crown]

Damn these look so much better even on a small phone screen

[tepid geyser]

A few GS ones. They really benefited a lot from this update IMO 😍

[smoky verge]

Much more a fan of the Diced archie. this one looks great but diced is Amazing.

But yeah these look clean!!! Incredible @.@

[tepid geyser]

I forgot one, my favourite one too 😆

[smoky verge]

That nose

[mossy turtle]

can you guys filter illuvial line/typ on the marketplace?

[tepid geyser]

For you
Looking at this one, I have to agree with you. So clean.

[smoky verge]

There it is!!! Look at those eyes!!!

[tepid geyser]

Can't believe how good they look!!

[smoky verge]

Also, stahp sending me these lol i burnt through 100 MB / 950 MB per month in MINUTES LOL

[fierce island]

LOL

[smoky verge]

(Also my phone is dying rn so good day to all of you! )

[tepid geyser]

If you click the filter icon on the top right, you can then select the illuvial line & type option from the right hand menu.

[mossy turtle]

yes i know how to do it, but it does not work for me

[tepid geyser]

Ah gotcha. Yep, just tested, not working for me either.

[worthy tide]

Nice standard 😉

garbage xD

[midnight prism]

do u guys just screen your illuvitar when clickin on it or is there a file to download?

[tepid geyser]

I just screenshot mine.

[midnight prism]

ah okay same ^^

[tepid geyser]

Still look super sharp.
Sorry for continually posting these, they just look so damn good. Can't help sharing them 😅

[pine crag]

Keep them comming they look super nice!

[smoky verge]

@tepid geyser please give me a rundown on how to get the better quality imagery xD screenshotting the enlarged image when you press an Illuvitar?

Atippo's are still my favorite 😄

[tepid geyser]

Yes that's what I do. Click the image on illuvidex to get the enlarged one and then just screenshot it.

[smoky verge]

seems to work! just wasnt sure whether i was silly for screenshotting images haha

[light epoch]

@midnight prism Here is the download if u need

[tepid geyser]

I don't think so, unless i'm being silly too 😂

[normal steeple]

🤯

[normal steeple]

🤤

[topaz zodiac]

Dude the detail in that Earth Fliish eye is CRAZY with the holo on it!

Even the non Holos look markedly improved, lovin this!

[normal steeple]

Agree, It is Hypnotic. vs normal 🤯

[astral ermine]

wave 1 tier 0 alphas should be white stamp too

[smoky verge]

The artists must be excited as everyone is fawning over their art @barren bobcat @untold parcel @silent prairie
😄 this is impeccable work, and we can now finally appreciate it in full glory (also @potent tulip ofcourse 😉 )

[astral ermine]

perfect background

i saw rich pulling that on stream