🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[strong nebula]

I personally wouldn't do that unless you don't care about logging in to download/play the betas. There is a bug where once you do that, you won't be able to login anymore. I'm still waiting for it to be fixed to use my account again.

[slender jetty]

i am in the same boat unfortunately

[pseudo pagoda]

Note to self don't do that

[slender jetty]

we need a button in albums that just updates all slots to highest power available

[analog storm]

Ahhh it explain why i couldn't access anymore to my account for my land Ilv Zero .

[turbid moss]

That should be a priority.. it is annoying to keep disconnecting

I disconnected and reconnected I just checked I can still get into iLV0

[turbid moss]

I didn't have a problem

Does anyone know anything about Hand-Signed Artist Edition Squizz D1SKPLATE or what it looks like?

[minor merlin]

i guess its the one that Rogier make in the livestreams the squid line.

[turbid moss]

I missed it

[turbid moss]

not sure if there is a screenshot of that?

[minor merlin]

let me check real quick

[turbid moss]

cool

maybe later in the next couple months I might get some more d1sk if it looks nice.

man.. ranking drop so fast. I wonder buy next week we will be at 1 million points

for top 100

[restive kettle]

Btw do we already know when the new diskplate boxes will drop? Say if we order a wave 2 illuvitar now are there already new boxes?

[turbid moss]

you need to make a wall of your illuvitar DiskPlates

and it will be in the Modern art museum in 20 years

[slender jetty]

i did 😭

[minor merlin]

thats a wip one.

[turbid moss]

hmmm... I don't know.. better ask for support

[turbid moss]

really? is that going to be on the d1skplate?

Wip one?

what is a wip one?

[minor merlin]

idk for sure. but i guess thats the one.

Work in progress

[turbid moss]

and Roger will sign it by hand

ROgier

pretty cool

[minor merlin]

looks like this one.

[turbid moss]

can Rogier and those people confirm with us

oh

nice

loooks like a glob of poop

I am surprise they don't give you something like this

[minor merlin]

colour is next if i am right.

[turbid moss]

is it going to be multiple section?

and we can combine them all together?

for an entire photo?

for the next few sets

[minor merlin]

idk its all guessing from me. so no conferm yet.

[turbid moss]

the hand drawing one looks better than the D1skplate version.

[minor merlin]

@potent tulip is this one the Picture that you draw on the live stream? the squid line?

[turbid moss]

they should for wave 2 to 6 to have different sections and sign them and combine them together

LOL

Should be separated into 6 sections

and the each set if you reach 500 d1sk you get 1 of these hand signed

so you have 6 waves for 1 d1skplate for each time you hit 500 D1sks

signed

thanks

collector edition

[wide swan]

Ah yes

You’re talking about it

Didn’t scroll far enough

[turbid moss]

sorry what you mean?

[wide swan]

Nothing I responded that colour was next

[turbid moss]

oh okay..so I am kinda on the right track

[wide swan]

Yes the one we did in the art sessions is the one for the reward

[turbid moss]

but how come the D1sk plate with the colour look so weird

or is it just the photo

[wide swan]

Cool idea about having 4-6

[wide swan]

Just a placeholder

[turbid moss]

oh okay.. yeah that looks ugly

yeah I mean 6 waves man

that thing is a rectangle

I don't know if it will work

[wide swan]

Yeah, the art isn’t done yet… and I was just thinking 6 gets expensive more than 4 you know

[turbid moss]

there should be a limited version of it say 100

[wide swan]

You’re probably right

That it wouldn’t fit

[turbid moss]

the fastest to 500 d1sk will get the d1sk plate signed

the rest will not be signed

[wide swan]

Ah gotcha

No I mean getting 6 d1sk plates to make the large image would get pricey but if it’s only 1 person sure

[turbid moss]

pricey to make?

pricey for the players

[minor merlin]

or the fastest will get a nft like the diskplate. because people that have 500 now are guessing they will get the signed one.

[turbid moss]

yeah well each wave if you get 1 standard is like around 2,500 per d1sk plate x 6

that would be like 13,000 USD for the entire photo

makes sense

it is suppose to be limited

[wide swan]

Oh ok I think I misunderstood? You’re saying you get 1 piece of the puzzle each wave you get 500?

[turbid moss]

yes

correct

each wave you get 1 section

and the first 50 people to reach 500 will get it signed or something

the rest just normal

not signed

[tepid geyser]

Too late though, wave 1 is gone 👀

[wide swan]

That’s cool, except if one of the waves you can’t afford it and you’re forever missing a puzzle piece lol

[turbid moss]

well.. that wave.. make it special

hardest to get

[minor merlin]

Rich do we have kukkas cave tonight? if not i will open some d1sks 😄

[wide swan]

We can I just haven’t scheduled it, was getting back to everything yesterday

And originally I wasn’t supposed to be back until tomorrow

But I cut it short

[minor merlin]

ya sure. did jetleg hits you?

[wide swan]

I don’t think I ever adjusted timezones wasn’t there long enough

[minor merlin]

ok ya i only had it when i came back to germany. in the States i had no problem.

[wide swan]

I’m usually up at odd times anyways so who’s knows what time zone my body is in

[minor merlin]

hehe true 😄

[tepid geyser]

Sounds familiar 😀

[turbid moss]

the point is to get people involved

oh well I guess it is just a one off D1skplate that is signed I guess

They can even just take a rectangle part of this and make 4 section for 4 waves to be given out signed

[minor merlin]

or make two part and the next waves another picture

[turbid moss]

make into a huge puzzle piece

so it will fit on the wall and it will take you multiple waves to complete

thanks

[minor merlin]

idk if someone is going to buy so many d1sks to get the full picture. if you do more then 2

[turbid moss]

I mean that is whats going to make it unique

some sections might have more some less

[minor merlin]

ya thats true.

[turbid moss]

some signed some not

who knows

you can put it on your wall and flex and say you are OG and you completed

if everyone got it, it is pointless

I bet the streamers would love to have them in their background to flex

if Illuvium takes off

[minor merlin]

not if, its when 😄

[turbid moss]

if not, it is a nice little drawning

[minor merlin]

ya it is a nice one.

[turbid moss]

yeah.. I don't know if anyone thought of that

I mean i don't mind chasing the puzzle pieces.. but if not, it is just some random art

I don't know if anyone actually reads these suggestions..

I think 500 d1sk is achievable

2,500 USD

it is suppose to be limited

[minor merlin]

i am at 250 and my max was only 50 standarts this round 😄

[turbid moss]

maybe someone just want one of the sections

so may put more effort into 1 and not the other

I was hoping I pulled an Ophisto so I don't need to buy it to complete

now it is complicated

[wide swan]

I’m reading and I like it, maybe we can work it into a future wave/s some how for sure I like the idea of the puzzle though encouraging you to hit a goal each wave

[turbid moss]

yes for sure.

I am a supporter of all the work done here. Thanks man

I can see the effort.

[prisma island]

I think I'm gonna be in need of a d1sks anonymous group

The addiction is real, lol

[wide swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1053452191588962424/1121933860968611840/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

[finite zealot]

You and so many others.😂

[turbid moss]

LOL I just have a goal and just stick with it I guess..

[prisma island]

My wallet doesn't apprecaite my goal

[turbid moss]

man

what is your goal infinity

Infinity in Beyond?

[prisma island]

Holos in all the slots, lol

[turbid moss]

oh okay you are go getter

what is your rank now?

must be high

[prisma island]

No, because I just started this wave, lol

Maybe in a couple weeks, need to get paid

[pseudo pagoda]

What is the cost of being champion 9k

I am about 1k in wave 2 so far and that's buying off 2nd hand market and disk about 43 or so..

[tepid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-no-nonono-noooo-cat-no-gif-25423213

[alpine dew]

Gonna guess K1ng aka Alexa has spent over 250k

Unsure how much of that is Eth or silv2

[full swift]

how do leaderboard rewards get distributed?

[alpine dew]

They get airdropped to the address that holds the NFTs

[fathom frigate]

Yea … which is … mental

[gilded sage]

all hail the k1ng

[tepid geyser]

JubJub Got another
$50 says he bonds it 😭

[pseudo crown]

Nice 1️⃣ ----> holo with T5 background on Ter 5

[wide swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/791148476218081321/1131056693254565978/ezgif.com-add-text.gif

Wow

Just wow

[minor merlin]

send me some luck please.

[wide swan]

@pastel bison

Wake up

Smell the roses

[wide swan]

Was it a mega

[minor merlin]

250 standart d1sks and 0 Tier5 background

[wide swan]

I got 1 so far

This wave

But I’m gonna buy a bunch here pretty soon

I’ve been being good

But waiting a little bit more

I need the other T5s since I got that ophisto luckily

[pseudo crown]

You got 1 T5 Background or ?

[minor merlin]

nice standart

[pseudo crown]

Yep, 2 holo

[minor merlin]

tier 5 background finally

[pseudo crown]

Ho did not noticed it, nice !

[minor merlin]

again dopple holo

[smoky verge]

That is a dope holo happy archeleon!

[restive kettle]

can you guys pls stop posting stuff like that...

makes me wanna open more also 😂

[minor merlin]

now you know my problem. 😄

[tepid geyser]

Managed to pull a couple of nice ones 😊

[gilded sage]

There must be another holo ophisto out there right

nice umbre

[tepid geyser]

I have no doubt that we will see more. Its only been a week and we have seen 2.

[gilded sage]

you think more wave 2 disks will be minted than wave 1?

[tepid geyser]

I couldn't say, i've not been looking at the sales volumes of the disks themselves, mainly looking at what is coming out of them 😆 .
I wouldn't think so at a guess. With how cheap standards are this wave though and what is coming out of them, maybe it's possible.
We could also be seeing the addition of the leaderboard expansion, along with completion rewards over the course of wave 2, this could help to drive a lot more interest.

[gilded sage]

yeah sorry to put ya on the spot prob too early to tell lots of time left..

[tepid geyser]

Dont worry about it 😄 .
They are also aiming for a q4 game release too right?
Depending on when during q4, there coud also be some overlap there with the tail end of this wave. That could also have a pretty significant impact. Maybe not though, as I imagine the boundary will be pushed to the limit to try and make sure that everything is perfect (not that it ever can be).
We shall see.

[gilded sage]

Seems like a bit of wishful thinking for the game release overlapping😄 but just getting closer to the date surely could drive excitement. Looking forward to it all. Namaste

[tepid geyser]

Possibly. More likely to see a Dec 31st launch 😆
It's all good either way. Wave 3 will run alongside a live game is this one doesn't. Exciting times ahead for sure.

[alpine dew]

best accessory I have ever pulled

[turbid moss]

if I buy thing directly from token trove do I have to move the illuvitars into my illuvium? or is it automatically connected to my account. I wonder because maybe it is worthwhile to not move eth into my account to buy things from Market place through illuvium but buy it from Token Trove instead is cheaper to save on gas fee

[turbid moss]

Love those neon glasses

I have never pulled the rainbow glasses.. I don't think I can ever bond those 20%

unless it is the rarest illuvitars and I have a duplicate

[fossil kraken]

It will appear in your account

[turbid moss]

is it cheaper to do that? or should I just move ETH in to my illuvium account and buy it in the market palce which is slightly cheaper but there are gas fees moving ETH inside

is there gas fees buying from token trove?

is it going to be like a lot compare to moving ETH into my account

[alpine dew]

tokentrove and Illuvidex are both on IMX and both are the same, tokentrove just charges I think an extra 1% when you buy and sell on its platform to help support devs

[turbid moss]

oh.. nevermind. .i got it basically I have to move money in

[alpine dew]

yeah once money is on imx its on both illuvidex and tokentrove

[turbid moss]

oh man.. I mean if I am going to spend like another 650 - LOL I might as well just take my chance buying more D1sk

man.. I hate missing 3 illuvitars in my wave 2 set

[turbid moss]

I don't know what to do 😦

another 250 Standards might not get me what I want LOL

[restive kettle]

I feel you man, at first when i startet collecting in wave 1 i also just wanted to buy some, but after some time i wanted to fill in more and more slots and then i ended up with a full wave one... and well now a full wave 2 as well 😅

[turbid moss]

well.. I am always wanting to fill my wave 2 set..

not all the slots but the main set at least

it is impossible and costly to fill all the slots

imagine getting all the rhamphre

in wave 1

OMG.. that would be crazy to get the BLazing Rhamphyre

I splurged a little and got the goofy because I like the background that went with it

250 Standards could that give me an Ophisto.. probably not

huh

[restive kettle]

Yeah you have to set some limits obviously... mine was just completing the waves... not the expressions tho, especially not the t5 ones

[turbid moss]

yeah.. just the wave set not the expression here as well

and I jsut bond that crap ones with highest power with dupes as much as I can

I am thinking of getting that 500 D1sk reward

pretty cool to have a room for illuvium and collectible in the future

[restive kettle]

Yeah not quite sure about that yet, but depending on how much the leaderboard moves i might do that as well 🫣

[turbid moss]

yeah well I am going to bond for sure

you will have to bond

[restive kettle]

That was also my target

[turbid moss]

maximize and try to stay ahead a little

would be pretty cool to get an original signed items from the artist of Illuvium

I hope it is not a printed signature

LOL

That would be kinda crappy

I don't know how they can keep the signature without fading over time

[restive kettle]

Pretty sure the normal diskplates are also handsigned? Or is it just printed?

[turbid moss]

250 - standards hmm.. maybe I should just go for that first before I buy to complete

[restive kettle]

Yeah the goalthingy is a minigame for itself 😅

[turbid moss]

hmm yeah or
230 Standard
20 Mega
42 SILV2

240 Standard
10 Mega
36 SILV2

250 Standard
30 SILV2

hmm...

man...$450 USD difference in price depending on what I do hmmm...

What would you do @restive kettle

or just all out just buy the rest of what you need

Ophisto - $1,000
Synalph - $100
Umbre - $60

total $1,160 and call it a day

without the d1skplate

basically same price as getting the 250 Standard

or take a gamble and maybe sell something and use that money to buy what I am still missing

that is if I even can sell anything I mean you know how difficult it is to sell when you got something good

LOL

Hoard everything

That is my delema

Dilema

just seeing what you would do

[restive kettle]

Obviously i dont have any clue whats best and this is not financial advice but i had two goals: 1. get to 500 disks 2. Get as many megas as possible + i had a set budget in mind... and thats what i ended up with: 135 megas and 365 standards + some eth left to buy whatever i should not be able to pull (mainly the t5s ofc)

[turbid moss]

nice

did you get any alphas

[restive kettle]

I wasnt planning to but bought 4 just for the feeling 😅

[turbid moss]

how was that feeling

I plan on buying alpha D1sks and some to not open I don't know if It is the right choice

[restive kettle]

Terrible cause i could have bought way more normal disks with that money

[turbid moss]

LOL

[restive kettle]

3x on alpha megas is just still too much imo

And you can see that by the amount of sales

[turbid moss]

yeah true.

How much was Alpha mega

I forget 100 USD

and standard was 33?

[unique talon]

standard was 10$

[turbid moss]

oh .. so cheap

and megas alpha was 30?

not it wasn't

[restive kettle]

Standard was 2x of normal standards so around 10 and mega 3x of normal mega so around 100

[turbid moss]

Alpha mEga was 100 USD right?

yeah.. okay got it

[unique talon]

exactly

[turbid moss]

LOL

[unique talon]

was to much for my little pocket

[turbid moss]

yeah I probably could I reached 500 no problem if I didn't buy the Alpha

[restive kettle]

Yeah thats 20 disks for one alpha mega pretty much

[unique talon]

i bought like 50 standard disc

on the alfa sale

that was not logical to buy mega alfa

[restive kettle]

Yeah i think standard alphas were okish compared to megas

I did only buy 2 megas

[unique talon]

did you pull something good of them ?

[turbid moss]

megas?

are you asking me?

[unique talon]

him

[restive kettle]

Wasnt too bad i guess

[unique talon]

nice one

[turbid moss]

That's all I got

the best ones I guess...

alpha

[unique talon]

god damm

[turbid moss]

why

not worth much I guess LOL

[unique talon]

you got some awsome Alpha collection

[turbid moss]

I don't know why Illuvialmaster says they aren't worth anything

I thought they were decent..

not like Ophisto level

This is my non-alpha Collection Wave 2 so far I didn't buy anything except open d1sk

those are what the best ones shows I guess

[unique talon]

they are nice .... specially if you think , they didn t sold as much as the first alpha sale

[turbid moss]

yeah.. I am hoping for long term hold

[unique talon]

me oo

too

[turbid moss]

I like some of them

I really like the Rhamphyre collection

I think by Wave 6 I will have all Tier 0 in HOLO

that I am not worried about

[unique talon]

the rhamphy is sick !!!

[turbid moss]

cute

[turbid moss]

so I am thinking about the above.. what would you do?

LOL

[unique talon]

depend on the time you want to spend openning them

[turbid moss]

what you mean

It doesn't take long

to open them

I think standards actually give you the best bang for the buck

[unique talon]

if you want to save some time , take the option with more mega disk

[turbid moss]

the return on investments is greater

ROI is better I feel what have you experienced

getting standards

[unique talon]

me i prefer opening standards one over the mega

[turbid moss]

yeah.. yeah

I guess you made my decision

easier

well you assisted

standard 250 it is

[unique talon]

it feel better when you pull something good from a standard

[turbid moss]

and then sell my dupes to hopefully reduce the pain of buying

true

those 17% accessories are really a gem

20% are hard to get buy 17.5% area ones are pretty sweet to sell

$40 to $50

[unique talon]

i did pull 2 metal wire halo and one particle nanize from the last 50 standards disk

i am waiting to get a good illuvitar to bond them

[turbid moss]

nice

decent price

[unique talon]

yeah not bad

[turbid moss]

i pulled an alpha accessoriy 20%

but doest matter lol

[unique talon]

yeah , it almost sucks to know it wont count as a alpha accessories

[turbid moss]

accessries arent worth much

[unique talon]

wow

[unique talon]

what rank are you on the leaderboard ?

[turbid moss]

I haven't been ranked lately but I just got back to 90 something almost back down to 100

LOL

I am sure others have better things

[unique talon]

you should be able to go way higher with that kind of accessories

[turbid moss]

i have to bond

yeah pribabky

but I don't want to bond with my good illuvitars

[unique talon]

yeah , it sucks to bonds

[turbid moss]

I would probably think I can be top 50

[unique talon]

i prefer the original illuvitars without bounding

[turbid moss]

but I just chose to not bond things with my strongest

If I have duplicates of my strongest ones I will bond them

or a worse version of the same thing

I can consider

but I think those people spend a lot and get duplicates to bond or they just don't care and bond

[unique talon]

i did bond them all to get higher on the leaderboard . if i could go back and unbond them , i would unbond them for sure

[turbid moss]

What if it cost you ETH and you lose the accessories

would you unbond them?

[unique talon]

not at this point ... i am way to much in beyond for doing that

[turbid moss]

LOL $5 to unbond each accessory

• you lose your accessory it gets burned

[unique talon]

i hope they will launch a game to use them in a futur

[turbid moss]

no idea man.. don't hold out hope for that

by the way do you remember how much was Alpha Mega and standard for Wave 1

I forgot

[unique talon]

nah

[unique talon]

i think they was like 30-40 for standard and 100-130 for mega

[turbid moss]

These are my unopened d1sks

due to fluctuation in prices

[unique talon]

the gamespot was a ripoff

[turbid moss]

yeah

I just buy a few

I don't have many maybe 5

[unique talon]

i bught to number to get the free plate

[turbid moss]

they are ugly

[unique talon]

like 740$ of it

[turbid moss]

wow

I don't think you needed to buy that many

I just got a promo d1sk Plate

[unique talon]

stole all the fun from not bonding them

[turbid moss]

I didn't get any other plates

they are ugly and you keep getting the same thing

[unique talon]

100%

[turbid moss]

I wanted to puke

I understand why people are pissed off

but hey, we all make mistakes

I mean shouldn't they ask for some feed back

from themselves

LOL

[unique talon]

i think it was 15 disk to get the halo plate .

[turbid moss]

I didn't get a halo

I am not getting that many so ugly

not worth my time

at least wave 2 is decent, actually looks nicer than wave 1

in my opinion

[unique talon]

me i did get a lot of ugly one

[turbid moss]

god

sorry bro

I guess it is time to open some standards

[rotund halo]

It's not like the art was a surprise. If you bought a bunch and didn't like it, it's your fault. DYOR.

[unique talon]

they look better because it is new

[turbid moss]

well first to get some SILV2 first

no no.. they are cuter

god that is ugly..

[unique talon]

cutter for sure

[turbid moss]

looks like a mosquito

I feel itchy looking at it

[unique talon]

they feel like more youthful then the first wave

[turbid moss]

yeah for sure

I like this the most

[unique talon]

i like the eyes

[turbid moss]

not wave 2 specifically but it is from wave 2 opening

Tier 0

[unique talon]

i backgrround from wave 2

[turbid moss]

too bad it will be replicated

the background is unique to wave 2

okay

LOL

I got some good backgrounds this time. is it easier to pull good backgrounds this time

[unique talon]

how long does it take to get a role on this chat to be able to post image

?

[unique talon]

seriously , the odds seems way higher for the background on the wave 2

[turbid moss]

yeah

so is it worth less?

LOL

It was almost impossible to get those crazy background with mozart

basically everyone has them

LOL

[unique talon]

i will always remember on the wave 1 , at first , i was not paying attention on the background and was only buying for selling them for aprofit

profit

the first time i realize it was a good background , it was when i instantly sold a illuvitar with a tier 3 token in a back . i went to check back why and i did realized how stupidly low i sold that one

after i paid more attention to the background

[unique talon]

exactly

[turbid moss]

LOL

well time to get 250 D1sk .. It is good time to get some SILV2

[unique talon]

way cheaper from when the alpha sale launch

[turbid moss]

yeah true

[unique talon]

good luck on your pull

[turbid moss]

final pulls d1sks opening...

for wave 2

[unique talon]

same for me ... last 8 sliv2 for this wave

[turbid moss]

@topaz zodiac is Illuvialmaster still being fixed or is everything updated already regarding how ai deals with pricing?

just curious

Illuvium really need to do some cross overs with some famous japanese artist

in the near future

I bet an exposure in japanese culture will be a boost to any NFT project.

[topaz zodiac]

As far as I know everything should be fixed.

[turbid moss]

okay great.. just making sure what I see is good 😄

just asking

I have never sold anything on the Market Place.. are there a lot of people buying in the market in general?

[topaz zodiac]

tots, never hesitate to ask 😄

[turbid moss]

you find it difficult to get things sold at the right price?

[topaz zodiac]

Honestly market isn't nearly as good as wave 1, and frankly prices are reflecting that. I know personally I am having a hard time selling things

[topaz zodiac]

10000000%

lol I lowered my Goofy rhamphyre to 1 Eth trying to fund a bit more for wave 2 and no one was biting

[turbid moss]

really why is wave 2 not doing as well as wave 1?

[topaz zodiac]

all speculation, for some they spent most of what they had on Wave 1. To many Alpha stamp be damn, wave 1 as a whole is the true alpha, the true long hold to what will be valuable long term

some people don't have the money to participate to the same degree in wave 2

That being said things could turn around a bit here and there. I know there are some marketing ideas floating around to try and bring in new groups to the Illuvium Beyond ecosystem

[turbid moss]

Got it.. interesting

which site can we see how much is moving in terms of money for Illuvium

are there like graphys to look at I forget

[topaz zodiac]

I don't think there is a site that has them, Lelahel posts information about the treasury and spend on their twitter. Illuvi-analytics . com has some information on sales on their site though I haven't looked into it extensivly yet and haven't verified numbers myself so not sure how accurate. They're more numbers not really graphs.

Illuvialmaster is working on a Analytics page for sales, but it's still being built. What kind of information are you interested in seeing?

[turbid moss]

Wow that is sick with the accessories

[topaz zodiac]

yeah people were giving it a hard time, but I think it looks alright, especially with the rainbow shades

[turbid moss]

it has the top accessories right?

make mine Stage 1, Tier 4 so boring

[topaz zodiac]

nope

T5S3 glasses
T5S2 Halo
T5S2 necklace
T5S2 pipe

[topaz zodiac]

that's still a rad pull though

[turbid moss]

why not one more accessory

yeah if it was HolO it would be better

[topaz zodiac]

best think I've pulled in a Vexed ryplance with Nexus background

[topaz zodiac]

looks like a T5S2 tattoo

the tattoos can be hard to see

[turbid moss]

oh right

I see it on the beak

[tepid geyser]

Beak 😂
Don't know why I found that so funny.

[turbid moss]

This is what you got?

I guess you can't really depend on the prices on illuvialmasters to closely to see how much your illuvitars are worth for some special illuvitars

because maybe there isn't enough sold pricing to be fair

am I correct?

[tepid geyser]

Vexed is rarer than any of those

[topaz zodiac]

Na better, mine is Alpha 😉

[turbid moss]

The estimated value

so low

god

I feel it is wrong

[topaz zodiac]

My one claim to fame is it's a 1/1 Alpha and the rarest version of the alpha

[turbid moss]

That is why I am asking if Illuvialmaster is still getting fixed LOL

oh yeah are you aiming for 500 D1sk reward diskplate?

[topaz zodiac]

It's based on market value. Just because I value it higher doesn't mean someone is willing to pay that price in the current market. I wouldn't sell this for cheaper than 1 ETH, but when I listed it no one wanted it. Similar to my Rhamphyre - estimated value is 1.38 but even at 1 Eth no one wanted it. The market just isn't there for these things right now.

That being said when bull run hits there probably will be especially as more players get into the space. What we probably have 2k dedicated Illuvium Beyond collectors, that's actually probably high. The 100 on the leaderboard care most really.

[turbid moss]

I see, they want the cheap things first

[topaz zodiac]

I might get it, but I don't really care for it. Might use it as a giveaway later in the year on my channel or something. I don't want too many diskplates not enough wall space

and my daughter is already begging me for one after I got my first 😂

[turbid moss]

signed LOL

[topaz zodiac]

I just keep rolling my doubles until I either have a full collection or can't roll no more.

and idk I never put much stalk in signed things 🤷‍♀️

[turbid moss]

I don't know man.. I don't know if I am going for it.. been thinking.. I was going to get 250 more D1sk

I might hold off for a few months

[topaz zodiac]

if anything I'll try to rack up another 100 on my second account to get more emoji disks

[turbid moss]

LOL

sounds good

I almost got 250 D1sk

maybe I will just keep it the way it is and wait for Wave 3

and get the alpha,

[topaz zodiac]

You big on Alphas then?

[turbid moss]

yeah pretty much

I am not that big I mean

I only have so much budget

[topaz zodiac]

yeah I loved the idea of alphas but my wallet can't keep up

[turbid moss]

I am just thinking what my plan is..

[topaz zodiac]

👀

[turbid moss]

probably I'll keep the next few waves at 100 D1sks

[topaz zodiac]

100 standard or megas?

[turbid moss]

100 D1sk

I would say my strategy is like maybe for the next few waves:

Alpha
5 Standard Alpha
15 Mega Alpha
(Keep 5 Mega Alpha closed)

Non-Alpha
80 x Standard

Just a plan maybe

for wave 3,4,5,6

so that I have something in each

Probably not going to have everything.

and maybe fill them up over time I guess.

[hasty grotto]

it real feels like the bear market has been on for five years to me cant plan my life around the "next" bull run

[turbid moss]

There is no bull rub

[hasty grotto]

Well F'it atleast we will have an amazing game to play 4ever

[turbid moss]

yeah aren't they doing some TCG game play somewhere at the end of the year to show us what they are working on?

[hasty grotto]

and I currently have top 10 and top 14 wave 2 iluvitar and only 1 is an Opisto and its the 14 .........I need sombody to buy my crap .....lol

so I can open more

[lime axle]

check tokentrove for offers, I've been putting a few out there

[light epoch]

Same, need someone to buy ophis so i can open more

[turbid moss]

How much

[storm herald]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/asset/0x8cceea8cfb0f8670f4de3a6cd2152925605d19a8/459443

[light epoch]

my ophis ? leaving it at 0.63 right now

[smoky verge]

I hodl 2 of each d1sk that becomes available to be purchased because @potent tulip once mentioned that it would be cool to have a d1sk collection xD

Now idk íf it will ever happen, but im ready for it. Lol

[potent tulip]

even if it doesnt 'do' anything , just a nice collection page wouldnt be bad 😛 I still have someone to convince tho!

[livid bramble]

I am short just a few Illuvitars to complete my album, but not sure its worth the $$$$ completing. Does anyone know what the bonus points for completing Wave 2 and Wave 1 is?

[smoky verge]

We don't know what the perks of finishing a wave is. But you can't complete [set 1] without wave 1 and 2 completed either :]

Gotta collect em all!!! Illuvial! xD (Illuvitar*)

[pseudo crown]

So there is 25 differents Illuvials per wave
205- (75 [Tier 0] = 130 130 / 25 = 5.2 waves probably 5 5 illuvials will have to be somewhere in the end.

[livid bramble]

Is there a % bonus of the total power of the Wave 2 in my collection or is it just a flat 1,000 extra points for getting 25/25 of Wave 2

I am thinking if an Ophisto costs $1K and I only get 2,200 odd points it may be better just leaving it and pimpin a cheap hollow for more points for a lot less cash...

[smoky verge]

it looks to be 3100 points extra for completing wave 1. Unsure of the points you would obtain for wave 2. I also don't know if it's based on your overall points in that collection 👀 but I would expect 3100 to be too specific to be tied to the point total of my collection.

[livid bramble]

Yes that is what I am thinking. It should be a % of the total power I collected.

Thanks mate

[smoky verge]

I don't think it is tied to your collection power.
I added some other stuff and it adds exactly what it should regardless of the milestone completion points.
So wave 1 completion = 3100 points, regardless of what you have in there.

[livid bramble]

Dam.

I have another question puzzling me. Is there any plans to be able to collect expressions for the Lynx's? Seems strange they have so far been excluded.

[smoky verge]

it's a commonly asked question. For now they wont be added, but they could be added at a later date. The main counterargument to adding them is that the collection for lynxes already is large.

I would be in favor of adding the expressions, as Ive been keeping one of each 😛

[livid bramble]

Me too

[smoky verge]

An Ophisto is still 3 different affinities/classes, as well as 2 composites, wave 2, and its own Squid collection. So in total, a single low-power ophisto would net you ~14000 points and the 3100 points from the collection would make that 17K :] not too shabby.

[livid bramble]

But thats almost $0.06 per point - very expensive.

[smoky verge]

it actually work towards finishing 7 collections. So you'd miss out on 7 milestone rewards.

[livid bramble]

Something to think about...

Thanks again Garf

[smoky verge]

anytime bro! I know it's a pricey investment, but that's with all Illuvitars 😉 Once you get started imo you should just push until you are satisfied. And that point is up to you to decide. That's how I took comfort in not finishing any T4/T5 Illuvial Line collections.

[sharp phoenix]

is it possible to filter your illuvitars by the ones not used in the album?

[smoky verge]

not yet! it's something I am rooting for as well
#1141795360562487356 message

[potent tulip]

got a nice deal on em :}

[fathom frigate]

What are these bad boys going for

[pseudo crown]

50-55

[urban pawn]

is there a way to offer some1 a trade e.g. land for illuvitar?

[meager garden]

you can set bid orders on IMX

but only for crypto

[alpine dew]

No and don't trust anybody that dms, they might try and steal your land

[wide swan]

Wow Rogier going for the #1 spot

[wide swan]

Which expression did you get?

[turbid moss]

oh man I don't even know how long I can stay in top 100 LOL

[potent tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-nod-sure-yeah-gif-8068246

[light epoch]

Common

[wide swan]

Hmmm

I need

[light epoch]

for u, only 0.59e

[fossil kraken]

That is the point of a collection is to have everything. So, adding all the lynx to the collection would just make it that much more - counterargument, defused.

[still herald]

Or ask someone from the community to act as a 3rd party and intermediate the trade. Lots of people do it this way

[valid sierra]

Easy way to get scammed

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[still herald]

What do you mean? Why would anyone (in good faith) from the community do something like this?

[valid sierra]

Do you have any idea how many scammers I banned pretending to be me? 🙂

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[valid sierra]

M0z4rt needs to chill, put a timer on yourself bot

[still herald]

It s enough to post what that member has done and he ll never make any trades with anyone from the community for the entirety of Illuviums' existance

[still herald]

Oh trust me i ve revealed dozens of scammers since i m an active member

[zealous delta]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[restive kettle]

I also did some trading recently but its still risky as long as we dont have a proper tradingtool and i would not recommend doing it with something thats worth a lot except maybe you know the person and trust him/her

[still herald]

100% on this ..
I also did some trades recently but on the other side i think it's a good opportunity to build trust and establish some nice partnerships 🙂

[shadow reef]

Hi @solemn blade - Would have a shareable link for this sheet or others that are similar?

[bold galleon]

how rare is this? how much is it worth?

[alpine dew]

really rare, lowest asking price for one is $492 atm

last one was sold for $386

[bold galleon]

so it could be sold around these prices?

[alpine dew]

yes how long it takes to sell depends on demand

and how low you are willing to sell it

[bold galleon]

thanks before u answered i listed for the 492$ so i am the cheapest right now 😛

but thanks 🙂

[visual pecan]

How many disks are getting minted each day?

[latent willow]

When more news about the CCG using illuvitars 😍

[visual pecan]

Who’s CCG 🤔

[pastel bison]

I shared to first draft of the game pitch with the team on Friday. Will share with council early next week after Aaron and Ben review.

Unless the council has some major reservations that pitch will also be shared with the community shortly after.

[latent willow]

Cant wait to know more about it 😜

[pastel bison]

There may be a few extra days delay while Rogier or someone from the art team does some concepts to make the doc look a bit prettier.

[latent willow]

The longer the cook, the tastiest is the meal 🥳

[latent willow]

Thanks for your answer

[wanton hearth]

Yes I sent hundreds of foot photos before I realised. 😉

[fossil kraken]

standard disk

not a holo but still nice to see it drop

[turbid moss]

Wow good job

[pseudo crown]

Pretty rare 😄

[pastel bison]

Oops too many zeros

[meager garden]

must be really hard for whales to handle decimals

[pastel bison]

😛

trying to sell a bunch of stuff, easy to make mistakes

[meager garden]

I know man, just joking. Happened to me as well already...

[pastel bison]

ahh well at least someone gets to enjoy some cheap slides

although at that price its probably a bot

[meager garden]

yeah they don't let these things slide

[pseudo crown]

Where can we find the rank for Illuvium Beyond ?

[meager garden]

when you sell something too fast, it probably had an extra zero xd

[pastel bison]

Illuvidex -> Beyond Hub -> Leaderboard
https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard

[pseudo crown]

I mean Bronze, silver, gold platinium

[pastel bison]

your own ranking? or a list of possible ranking?

[pseudo crown]

The list

[pastel bison]

I'm not sure if thats on the site, probably in a FAQ or something somewhere

[pseudo crown]

Nvm, found it

[pastel bison]

🦾

maybe we need to add Oberium at 2.5m!

[pseudo crown]

Top 4 is > 2 Millions

Yep, new rank need to growth up as well as the wave keep coming in it's logical.

It's a fun vibe

[pastel bison]

holy!

very nice

[pseudo crown]

Mega or Standard ?

[fossil kraken]

standard

[turbid moss]

it will be so hard for someone who just started to get into the Top 100

[young tide]

Imagine when wave 3 releases 🫨

[turbid moss]

game over

GG

unless you just buy buy buy

[wide swan]

Lol pulled what I did

[turbid moss]

from secondary market

[light epoch]

Still need this Rich ?

[teal vigil]

when ethlizards releases battle in the beyond there will be wave based leaderboards which will be more accessible

but probably not the ongoing rewards that the main leaderboards have

has anyone in australia asked a tax accountant how to deal with illuvitar bonding?

im dying here

[wide swan]

Sounds like a mess 😂

Hey accountant ser… see I have this Poodle Moth NFT that I burnt, but that’s because I got these accessories that I attached to it and now I have a new NFT that I can’t put an exact cost on

https://tenor.com/view/i-wanna-die-kill-me-now-jump-run-over-hit-by-a-truck-gif-17242856

Your accountant

[teal vigil]

yep the new nft is entirely unique, and probably worth less or more than the original items depending on how you think of it

probably need to spend a thousand bucks consulting a specialist over my $5 nft transaction

[chrome harness]

wow, highend acces. have dropped in half

[young tide]

I wish I could compare the rates of wave 1 vs wave 2

[wide swan]

Drop rates? Or?

[wide swan]

I need but I’m about to buy a bunch more D1SKs so I’m not in a hurry

[valid sierra]

You can open them on stream, I have time to watch now 😏

[young tide]

Yes, drop rates 🤓

[past tundra]

So I definitely don’t think it’s for everyone… but I’m not reporting these crazy imx transactions. Only my mainnet off boarding.

[wide swan]

Both articles are in news section
Wave 2: https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-beyond-wave-two-buyers-guide

Wave 1: https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-beyond-set-1-wave-one-buyers-guide

[light epoch]

Its gone, too late Rich ,now imma buy more D1sk. Will sell u a holo omnipotent ophisto when i oprn them later

[hasty grotto]

its nearly rent collection day maybe I can buy more disks soon

[ionic stratus]

I am going to dress this beast Umbre and a Rake with T4 BG the same as my Dash. Write a paragraph explaining the journey between regions. Buy three disk plates and frame them with the short story. 🤣🤣

My Wife thinks I am a loser and I agree 🤣

[royal anvil]

Theres something about this aapon that just speaks to me

[livid bramble]

Nice Dash & Umbre you have there... Two excellent backgrounds and thoughtfully bonded.

[ionic stratus]

I was thinking about upgrading the pipe and chain to match the tier of Rake and Umbre and just leaving the other purple accessories. Thoughts on that?

[bleak crown]

@delicate delta you leaving the ecosystem?? 😩

[pseudo pagoda]

@past tundra I am afraid that every transfer counts look at crypto tax software they count every thing capital gains time line

Only if you sell you pay tax . but transaction fee probably shows time of sale

[past tundra]

Sure. Let me know if you have one that pulls data from IMX.

Last I knew koinly does not.

[pseudo pagoda]

Missing information with gains or losses showing..

[delicate delta]

Nope, just not fussed with Leaderboard anymore 😄

[bold galleon]

Obelisk tattoo for sale! Way under floor 🔥

[analog storm]

Damn good looking Alpha

[pseudo pagoda]

@analog storm thank you been showing it off

[livid bramble]

I agree. That is exactly how I am setting up my packs. Silver chain & bronze pipe on the Dash., gold chain and silver pipe on the Umbre.

[chrome harness]

there is no floor anymore 😉

[bold galleon]

Don’t think so 🙈 or u gonna buy all then there’s no floor anymore 👍

[midnight prism]

Hey when clicking on the goals it says "Wave 3 Mega D1SKs x3" for 25d1sks and on frontpage it says x2 , which one is right?

[bold galleon]

The repeating x2 is right

[wide swan]

Yeah typo will be fixed

Well not a typo

It changed

[smoky verge]

that Umbre looks good on you dude! that background looks menacing, just like you'd expect from an umbre

[smoky verge]

I got his brother! 😄

yours is alpha though, that's massive

[pseudo pagoda]

I did a little 2nd hand shopping

[fathom frigate]

And one for 10m

[restive kettle]

sick gratz!

the coolest ones i got

cant decide which one is better^^

[pastel bison]

Not bad for a standard:

Hmm nevermind I thought snarling was rare not uncommon 😒

Okay this one isn't bad for a standard

[tepid geyser]

Very nice! 😍

[pastel bison]

On to the megas

Not bad for 30 megas 😮

[restive kettle]

Thats pretty crazy actually, i didnt get any of that in all my disks

Should maybe buy more lol

[pastel bison]

I've been pretty dry for a while so it was nice to get a few great ones close together.

[visual pecan]

You saw my comment in #1023650415893545031 and weren’t interested?

[pastel bison]

they are indeed bangers, but no I'm not interested

[light epoch]

still waiting for my holo omnipotent ophisto, where r u man

[magic oriole]

Who’s missing a T5S3 necklace? 😅

[ionic stratus]

You selling one?

[magic oriole]

I can sell. Dm

[hasty grotto]

It will speak to you more with a token background I will tell you 😉

an old pull but lasser and the background

They are our uber balcks in the philipines

lol I just thought of something ....maybe we can upgrade the phillipne dowery ........to include Craradulo's ........lol

[royal anvil]

Lol

[bold galleon]

@ionic stratus hey can u text me please 👍

[hasty grotto]

btw nobody look on the secondary market ...just keeep buying disks there no bargins there untill .........my tenants pay the rent ...i promise you

[calm cedar]

People have been showcasing their bulls. I'll join the race, too.

[restive kettle]

[pseudo crown]

What is it ?

[restive kettle]

Well these white scraps surely dont look too good but its def better to have them than not cause they seem to keep the plates in their slots and probably keep the edges protected a bit better. Also the magnets are taped on now in the hole so they dont bump around when carrying the box. overall it seems already much better than last time. Good job team!

[hasty grotto]

Is that one of the legendary "reward: ones ??????

[minor merlin]

Looks like it is the holo one

[restive kettle]

Yep its the holo gs d1skplate 😁

Looks better from the side i guess

[smoky verge]

Omg no unique boxes? :]

[restive kettle]

Nope, only wave boxes it seems

[minor merlin]

I guess they need to get out the Batch 1 boxes 😁

[smoky verge]

at least I'll have a Batch 1 box for sale soonish... anyone want a batch 1 box for 500$? lol

[restive kettle]

Btw anyone already ordered a wave 2 illuvitar yet? Do we already get wave 2 boxes? Or does anyone have information on that?

[minor merlin]

You can't. Shop is still in maintenance.

[tulip meadow]

Yeah mine just came in aswell. I was about to order my profilepic nft as a plate, but the shop is still down i just read after asking it it was litterally directly above my question. Anyway its been down quite a while, anyone know why? Just to keep up with demand?

[calm cedar]

I also got my d1skplate 🙂

[tulip meadow]

Its like a box day 🙂

Just wondering were yours addressed to your address but with the name ILLUVIUM DAO?

[calm cedar]

Yes. Illuvium DAO and on the following line my names.

[tulip meadow]

oh my names werent even on it :.

[calm cedar]

Maybe it depends what you wrote on the shipment form.

[tulip meadow]

hmm well maybe im wrong ill see if i stil have the plastic wrapper

online DHL addressed me as ILLUVIUM DAO

Maybe the ILLUVIUM STORE V NOW OPEN here in Discord should be removed to prevent confusion.

[minor merlin]

D1sk plates are coming from the Netherlands.

[ionic stratus]

Did people get an email about the GameStop disk plates ? Or just a surprise in the mail?

[tepid geyser]

Both I think. Some did, some didn't.

[ionic stratus]

I guess I’m in the latter group.

[minor merlin]

Sometimes the delivery is faster than the emails 🤣

[ionic stratus]

I’m in Sydney if Kieran has time to drop it off and sign it.

[valid sierra]

Kieran isn't in Sydney 😉

[minor merlin]

He is in Ibiza right now.

On Ibiza? In Ibiza?

[mossy turtle]

At ibiza

[minor merlin]

or this 😄

[restive kettle]

just found that beauty on the market for just 45 bucks

[topaz zodiac]

Nice find!

[chrome harness]

The master seems to be doing a good job on pricing in a tough environment

[remote saddle]

did the non holo gamestop d1iskplates get sent out yet? still havnt heard anything

[restive kettle]

what do you guys think which one looks better? bg matching with the eyes and flower or with the body of loulura? think the blue one has a better contrast...

[midnight prism]

hey

how can i send from one wallet to other?

[fathom lintel]

Dude, I saw what you pulled, nice one!!

[remote saddle]

I use Illuvialmaster

[valid sierra]

Long story short, use the paper plane

[fathom lintel]

He already found the way, he just pulled the strongest synalph

[remote saddle]

ooooof thats nice

[restive kettle]

wow 5th rarest from wave 2

[midnight prism]

one time lucky in my life ❤️

[midnight prism]

thanky you bro ❤️

[wide swan]

wow

very nice

[fathom frigate]

Rude not to pre bull

[teal sluice]

you guys are so lucky lol. One day i'll get a sweet T4 or T5 like that haha. Maybe next wave

[teal sluice]

4190 power archeleon

[potent tulip]

Beast

[upbeat scarab]

Someone help me price my alpha, holo frantic Ace.T3 lvl 1 background. Any thoughts?

[astral ermine]

i think that was very misleading

i thought we get a physical signature on these gamestop plates from rogier

but on mine is only the printed ones from the team haha

[pseudo crown]

Last sale 2 weeks ago. Information on Tokentrove.com holo frantic Ace with T3 stage1 background.

[still herald]

As Linkky posted, try to look on previous sales with the same (about the same) background/expression

[upbeat scarab]

I have been but pricing seems all over the place for alphas.

[still herald]

Yep true .. it's a bit more difficult to price Alphas but still i think previous sales have to be the gold standard imo

[upbeat scarab]

Cool thanks

[modest kite]

Nice surprise showed up today!

[valid sierra]

Don't make me jelly

[modest kite]

Alexa "how do you turn butter into jelly" 🤣🤣

If anyone wondered, still in batch 1 box

[minor merlin]

o mai that will be my 3rd box from batch 1 😂

[burnt ferry]

Yes for me too

❤️

[dreamy raven]

Since the marketing sub council have had the biggest impact on beyond, I think any to highlight this IICP currently trying to abolish it. #1145736367331090432

[obsidian dune]

To be fair, I think Perry had the biggest impact on Beyond Wave 2. Also, we can't be sure what was happening behind the scenes and who did how much work and who had how much impact.

[modest kite]

I showed it to my son, after his first day of kindergarten today, and he wants it put up in his room haha

[burnt ferry]

I dont Show IT to my Kids Because i want IT in my Office

😀

[wide swan]

Pure Art

[chrome harness]

Question for beyond lovers:

Did the new pricing for wave 2 destroy the secondary values of both wave 2 and wave 1, or is it mostly the bear market?

[pseudo pagoda]

Bear for sure

I'd say they work out % chances half decent

[magic oriole]

Anybody interested?

[pseudo pagoda]

My moon bags are sagging if they had lil moon raise I'd tape into them again..

[delicate delta]

Supply Expansion with no Demand Expansion, pretty expected that thin demand liquidity would be now spread across two Waves. It's not really anything to do with a Bear or Bull Market, it's more that the long term bet on Illuvium Beyond is the games & brand being successful and games won't be live for 4+ months. Everything Illuvitars is leveraged on the success of the I.P & the games long term. Token is also close to ATL, so low incentive to gamble on the fringes.

[pseudo pagoda]

Ineed to buy few to get my 100 disk credit I already would have if I didn't wona take potential big losses

[delicate delta]

New Pricing was a huge W tho, it's kept a lot of people that would of just quit Beyond still opening packs and having fun trying to get rares, I think if we had Wave 1 pricing, especially on Alphas again, this channel would be entirely empty, it's achieved it's purpose of not screwing over the community and satisfying ongoing users.

[chrome harness]

I saw the proposal to disband the marketing council, and their own claim to fame in a very short history is debating and deciding on the pricing of wave 2. I thought it relevent to include the impact of this on the secondary market but I think you are correct, all in all they mostly got it right, and the disk incentives were good for creating excitement, and hopefully the saftey pool.

[pseudo pagoda]

@delicate delta I see your point in full but alot of people are lacking extra spending money

[delicate delta]

There's maybe like 100-250 people max floating around the Illuvium Beyond Market at the moment, anyone really going ham on D1SKs is hoping that the long term vision of onboarding 1,000,000+ Players to the Ecosystem in the next year is a wild success, then combined with Revdis and the potential of a Bull Market returning sometime in the next 50 years, that is when Illuvium Beyond Market gets really fun 😄

[chrome harness]

I do feel bad for some, perhaps, who bought a bunch of disks, not necessarily to resell to get and get rich, but to get something back sooner than 50 years 😉

It wasn't purposeful but I can feel some peoples pain on this.

And really even below floor a lot is not selling.

[restive kettle]

i agree with whats said above and aditionally i think the algo of the illuvial master website also doesnt help much cause ppl are using that way too much imo.... some ppl sell stuff cheap - algo downgrades everything - ppl list stuff for cheaper but it doesnt get bought so ppl list it for even less - algo says its worth even less - rins and reapeat.... sure i get it that some things from wave 2 might still be too, high but the wave 1 things and especially the alphas are suffering big time from this imo

[chrome harness]

Yeah, I was surprised the latent impact on wave one, especially alphas...and speaking of which, there was so few wave 2 alpha disks sold and a lot opened already, that may be the subset to play for the future.

[still herald]

I totally agree with that .. there's too much influence from Wave 2 into Wave 1 which drags it down - algo is associating every tier from W2 and lowers the value from the same tier to W1 illuvitars aswell which doesn't make much sense as the supply of W1 didn't increase and sales weren't going lower and lower in value

[chrome harness]

ps of all the various ILV channels I like the feel of this one the best

Thanks to you all

[wide swan]

I do love this channel lol

[delicate delta]

Yeah Algo just going to spiral it till actual buyers start to step in, but there are no buyers... Problem is (unfortunately) Wave 1 Alphas were being upheld by a false sense of value at prices that only a small handful of people were willing to pay. If there's demand, people want to step in and buy, but they don't as they view other things as more appealing at the moment. A huge elephant in the room as well is how god damn OP the Milestones are for this Wave, the amount of additional value you get from blasting through the first 100 is insane and outcompetes nearly everything on secondary.

The reality is, the biggest thing anyone looking to sell on secondary is competing with is how good the Mint is at the moment.

[still herald]

Best thing to do imo (and what i'm doing) is just get the average values of latest sales and not follow the IM valuation at the moment which i think it's a bit flawed

[chrome harness]

We are seeing market psychology at work as well as economics: What goes down continues to go down till it doesn't 😉

But as a sniper on the secondary, I've been pleased

[restive kettle]

yeah im not using it for valuations anyway anymore, makes no sense just use it to quickly check and compare raritys

and based on that + the taking into account rarity changes + prices changes from this wave i make up my own values that i think could be appropriate

[delicate delta]

I’ll give you a bit of my hopium tho, I think there’s definitely a few things to be excited for

• Wave 2 Closes - Wave 1 & Wave 2 Supply completely cut off well before game launch
• Illuvitar Burning Comes In for Substance (Substance Increases Shard Capture Power Amongst Other Ingame Utility - Confirmed by Aaron)
• Album Rewards Come In - Only way to fill is with Wave 1 & Wave 2 Illuvitars which have been/ are being rapidly swept up and burned for Substance

Any sort of significant playerbase starts to emerge, we'll have some happy campers in Beyond Chat

[chrome harness]

yep, not counting on it, but aware it's a possibility. And that would all be great.

And again, I see wave 2 alphas reach par with nons and I'm probably going to bank some.

As there should be a scarcity value eventually.

But for the most part alphas don't benefit from game economics including your hopium

alas

and thank god for the leaderboard, and they better not wipe out ILV from that ever

some reward for our trudging through the desert

[still herald]

I can get behind that 100% 😄 - with the mention that Wave 1 supply yes will be very valuable and scarce in no time - W2 not really .. maybe 6 months after launch or so (depending on the nr of players ofc)

[chrome harness]

honestly, because beyond has no direct interaction with the main games, I would think beyond will not take off till it gets its own game or the next crypto bull, which I'm pretty sure is not this year...but when she moves she moves quick, so we'll see

[delicate delta]

Assuming Roadmap timelines remain intact, then Overworld launches in Q4 live on Blockchain with substance burning and the Wave 2 Supply on Market could get absolutely lit on fire if there’s high demand for substance

[keen forum]

I read also about a TCG with illuvium beyond, if it s true this can increase the domand of the illuviatars

[still herald]

Do we know if substance is going to be an ERC20 token - basically available be to sold/bought on the marketplace?
I was under the impression that it's account bound somehow/for personal use

[delicate delta]

Honestly, really doesn't matter as Illuvitars are still tradeable. I assume it will be tho.

[tidal adder]

Not necessarily, because of the ILV rewards, there'll also be correlation to some extent to the token price. If ILV goes to $100-200 thanks to games' launch (not because of a bull market), those LB rewards will be even more attractive => pushing illuvitar prices up
On prices going down, I think that a lower limit on prices could be dictated by the fact that ppl minting and reselling (to unlock rewards or get rares) would presumably stop doing that if they sell their illuvitars (on a probability weighted average basis) at substantially lower than disk cost...which I feel might be happening now or soon 🙂

[chrome harness]

esp. after they hit their reward target eg 100 disks

and yes leaderboard is the single most valuable aspect of the ILV complex right now, at least in a tangable way

ps and as someone mentioned recently, those on the leaderboard have a pretty good moat built at this point

pps and some smart people are also selling listed in GODS and IMX, which a lot of us have sitting around not doing much...I've used those some already to buy

[pastel bison]

*"and yes leaderboard is the single most valuable aspect of the ILV complex right now, at least in a tangable way" *-> Staking?

I mean the leaderboard is great, but if talking about value staking is many orders of magnitude more value generating

---

In other news sold an Ophisto time to buy some d1sks!

[karmic scroll]

Secondary market will always be weak while the option to buy disks directly from the supplier still exists, would be foolish to think we know the real value of any wave 2 illuvitars until the extended run finishes.

As Seatin and Johnny have said > ILV token at current value isn't what people are excited about, staking and stacking token in an effective DAO while the game is still in beta is the premise. It's riskier but if you believe in the product it's easy. I highly doubt the top 4 Beyond Albums are selling their ilv tokens.

[pastel bison]

This is a good point, I randomly put up some items for sale in IMX a few days ago.

I've definitely paid more for d1sks in IMX as I just had it sitting there doing nothing!

[karmic scroll]

I missed the pokemon days, glad I get the opportunity to collect (first week in top 100 lets hope it lasts) 😄

[pastel bison]

🦾

alrighty coffee then d1sks, brb!

[bleak crown]

Some big ass thing showed up in my mailbox, sent to illuvium dao?? Joined this discord to find its owner

[alpine dew]

What is it???

Diskplate perhaps?

[bleak crown]

Omg its 6 NFTs!

Haha they used the 2022 boxes, same one as the first promo illuvitars

That still say ‘batch’ :p

Looks great tho thanks Beyond team and Rogier!!

Where do i even fit this one

[pastel bison]

❤️

Not sure what is going on with the boxes... @potent tulip @frosty knot?

[bleak crown]

zzzzzzzzz

[fossil kraken]

zzz was an accidental typing lol

Was from a standard disc

so cute !

[bleak crown]

damn very nice! i likie

[pearl crown]

Just received my Diskplate! Thanks Illuvium!

No where to put it now so I'm going to leave it in the bubble wrap.....

[sharp sigil]

Standard alpha d1sk. Can't complain about it...

[light epoch]

solid pull

[royal anvil]

and an alpha to boot

[sharp sigil]

Yes. Alpha with that rare background makes it very unique. I am happy about it

[royal anvil]

plus an expression to boot!

[turbid moss]

wow.. 1 mil

[calm cedar]

Cutoff for leaderboard is today, right?

[safe ibex]

When leaderbord payout from last week?

[ionic stratus]

Thought cut off was Thursday 10am Sydney time

[calm cedar]

Might be. I wasn't sure.

[wide swan]

Later today and the snapshot is <t:1693440000:F>

[quiet marten]

How to get hi res image of owned illuvitars?

[ionic stratus]

https://x.com/brucestoise/status/1696430357653106777?s=46&t=SifYFyjHy3rA7eWOgFOdiQ

Brucestoise 🦎♊️🇦🇺 (@brucestoise)

Thread: Gotta sleeve ‘em all.

An @Illuvitars success story. 🧵

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Twitter · Aug 29, 2023, 7:51 AM

Made a little Beyond thread for the Family

Needed some positive vibes after all the doom and gloom chat

[bold galleon]

@ionic stratus can u text me in dm?

[tender swan]

where can i find my free wave 1 goal disks ??

[minor merlin]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/account/profile

[tender swan]

thx

[keen forum]

Hi everyone, when we can have more details about TCG on Beyond ? thnaks

[restive kettle]

they might still go down a bit in price but i am pretty happy with that buy as i think its the best fitting background for Rhamphy

[fathom frigate]

That’s quite cheap tbf

Infact that’s a good deal

[restive kettle]

yeah it was listed for 0.2 or so i just made a offer for 0.08 and he excepted

[pine crag]

Was there an iip up for substance?

I love this idea!
Wonder what it will be used for?

[still herald]

Substance will increases the shard capture power (and maybe it'll have some other in game utility)

[topaz zodiac]

No proposal has been posted about substance as of yet

[lime axle]

This is just a planned game mechanic from the devs right? Is a proposal required for that?

[topaz zodiac]

that’s my thought yeah. pretty sure a proposal is not needed, otherwise we’d be making proposals for every game mechanic and that’s not productive

[fathom frigate]

Solid deal

[past tundra]

That is not available at this time

[livid bramble]

Burning Illuvitars is a dumb idea, there is insufficient supply for Illuvitar collectable cards as it is. At the moment because we are at the initial roll out stage we are encouraged to go "wide" and collect as many different characters as possible. Anyone who knows how collectables work will know that the next stage (probably past the mid way point) we be encouraged to go "deep". This means collecting the complete sets of backgrounds for your favourite Illuvials... In other words it is the beginning of stacking for points. The idea is simple: insert two or more expressions into the sleeves with the same background will automatically spawn a fresh set of sleeves.

Once you complete all three expressions, a set bonus is added based on the difficulty collecting that background Tier and stage for the Tier of Illuvial collected. For sets where three expressions where not printed an official blanking card is provided free of charge with a nice silhouette of the missing card/s. Whilst the power points of missing cards are not included in the total, the collector will still receive the set completion bonus for collecting all cards of that background that where released. Sadly in Illuvitars this is actually quite common because of said low prints... If collectors require a particular expression card that was printed but insufficient for all competitors to complete their sets, those that miss out can opt to pay for a dummy card that cosmetically completes their album but unlike blanking cards no set bonuses are provided. Dummy cards also look different to Official Blanking Cards but are a nice way to signal that the collector has exhausted their ability to trade for such rare cards and gives them a sense of completion so they can move onto the next. Now think about this... New players can enter at any stage and compete even though they don't have a Wave 1 Rhamphire, Goliant or Squizz. It does not matter. They can choose to stack more background sets for the Illuvitars being released at the time they join. Some may chose to stack Lynx's only and that is a perfectly fine strategy. It is an easy way to start collecting with the more common backgrounds perhaps in the colour closest to that Illuvials affinities. Suddenly all those flash Kukkas and Archies people groaned about have a purpose and all those accessories some people think we should burn, will have a use case too as albums go from being long to thick.

[teal sluice]

i didn't know there is a way to make offers! how is that?

[tepid geyser]

TokenTrove

[chrome harness]

direct through IMX also

and you can see what offers you got also by my assets

[teal sluice]

no idea how to use those, i'll check. I have only been using the regular illuvidex market

[chrome harness]

boring 😉

[restive kettle]

just go on tokentrove - klick on a listed illuvitar and then make an offer

[chrome harness]

Is tokentrove owned by IMX also?

[restive kettle]

theres also this little bell on the top right corner that tells you when you got an offer or sold something

[young tide]

How many slots does one illuvitar take in all of the albums normally ? without counting the background.

[quartz estuary]

Hi everyone
Tell me if you received the diskplate game stop, or who knows when they will be distributed

[tepid geyser]

Some have, some haven't, they are still rolling out.

[quartz estuary]

Understood, thank you, was there any information about the NFT that was promised for the wallet?

[alpine dew]

5 sometimes 6

[tepid geyser]

No news on that as of yet. Still waiting on an announcement for those dropping. It will be sent direct to your wallet, so you wont have to do anything.

[quartz estuary]

Thank you for your reply, have a nice day

[tepid geyser]

No worries, you too 👍

[chrome harness]

yikes on SEC going after NFT "firm" though beyond looks less like a security than theirs and we are more a collectable, like art

[tepid geyser]

Yeah, no idea how anyone could justify an illuvitar/disk being a security.

[restive kettle]

depends on the illuvial... normally everything is in set + wave + affinity + class + line so thats five at a minimum but then theres illuvitars like Slashin for example that has frost which means he has 3 elements (water,air,frost) and also 3 class slots (rogue,bulwark,vanguard) which means he has 4 more than usual which puts him at 9 slots if i didnt miss anything

[chrome harness]

also tend to be good ones to put accessories on

more bang for the buck

assuming you can hold your nose to "ruin" a perfectly good Illuvitar 😉

[still herald]

You are not forced to burn your illuvitars for substance. You can do whatever you want with them, but there are people that have an interest in Overworld also and might use them to help with their capturing. The more utility to illuvitars the better imo

[cerulean quartz]

Do we get emoticons like we did last time if we buy a certain amount ?

[solemn dove]

Yeah, 100 D1sks will unlock 5x emotes

[cerulean quartz]

Cool any disks ?

[solemn dove]

wdym?

[cerulean quartz]

Wow this is cool so battle board skins after 50 ....nice

[cerulean quartz]

Like standard or mega

[topaz zodiac]

Yeah any disks qualify for the rewards. 1 buy = 1 point on the personal rewards for wave 2

[meager garden]

hope this changes by wave 3, so mega disks receive a bit more love

[topaz zodiac]

Same, we started talk about things that need to be considered now for wave 3 if we’re to have the time to implement them.

[dreamy raven]

#1132603175061434368

[meager garden]

already got my upvote for sure

let's make it happen!

this wave has been a T0 flood with everyone opening standards

the stretch goals are too juicy to miss out...

[lime axle]

GameStop plate just arrived!

[quiet marten]

Can I ask why? If Roger can do it for displates why can't we as the "owners" of the NFT have full access to our own assets?

[wide swan]

Its actually coming in an update to the Illuvidex

[frosty knot]

Yeah I was just about to say similar, we're about to push an update that drastically improves the image quality for Illuvitars.

We'll also look at adding a CTA to download source res images in the not too distant future.

[lime axle]

Same update that shows more positions on the leaderboard?

I keep checking...

Maybe I'll make top 300!

[spare temple]

rewards for last week going out soon?

[young tide]

Idk if it is a bug, but I'm trading illuvitars and I still have them on my albums after I trade them.

[livid bramble]

I would be surprised if they dont become available soon. It makes perfect sense to have access to high resolution images for Illuvitars collected in your album.

[turbid moss]

Where is mine.

[turbid moss]

We should see our rank for the current wave 2 vs total wave vs wave 1

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-hanks-just-wait-gif-8524221

Mine hasn’t come yet either

[lime axle]

Oooo, that'll be real nice!

[lime axle]

Well, only one came today, still waiting on the other... 😉

[frosty knot]

Leaderboards per Wave isn't something we're working on, nor is it planned.

In the future we plan to release entire sets, rather than Waves (as we're getting well ahead on the Art side)

If this is a genuine need, I think it should be captured in an ICCP

[lime axle]

Ah, ok. Would be pretty cool, probably not at all a priority now though if it's not in the works!

Full set releases will be great, even more variety in openings

Those will last a year+ at that point or still pretty short?

[frosty knot]

Ultimately a decision for Council to make, as of right now we're looking like Wave 3 will also include the Illuvitars we had planned for a Wave 4

So a total of 50 new Illuvitars in the next wave.

[surreal pecan]

I was wondering if in the future we should consider two leaderboards in the same vein as the arena - “leviathan” for all illuvitars ever released, and a series leaderboard for the current series. Just as a way for someone new to be able to contend realistically, and a way for those with massive collections to get recognized as well