#🎮〕illuvium-beyond
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Isnt that Rhamphy?
I am pretty sure since it doesn't have the fire ring around the neck Rhamphy does, can @barren bobcat confirm? 🙃
no way thats rhamphite
Ah, ty
why not? close up?
body is close to Rhamphy I'll admit
but all in all the two are very similar
I also don't see rings on the tale so could easily be either one
yes they look very similar but im very very sure that this is rhamphy only the ring is the thing thats questioning
I kept combing but that's the only leak I have - might have to check the recent showcase 🤔 cause now I simply must find out
im sure Dan meant this one
I don't want to wait for wave 2 lol. I'm liking it better than wave 1 aesthetically
I agree but my pocket book needs to recharge 😂
that to me is the only down side to having them one right after the other, if you want to collect them all it doesn't financially give you a lot of time before the wave closes and the next begins
Are we back on? 👀
Still some issues
But we are monitoring will announce once we expect it all at be good
wonder if waiting took long for wave 2 will effect any gamestop people who joined us...ie they might want to do it again sooner than August
or on to something else
i think its good to wait a bit inbetween waves... should be more exciting when disks come back... and also maybe secondary picks up a bit meanwhile
They can play OW and arena now at least
I think the intention was for them to give away beta codes so more people playing the game. That will leed to more people liking the illuvitars from beyond also.
My mint ain't minting
I was minting wave 1 disk had same problem
Trying get a up with disk so far been doing well
60f6 of my gamestop disk all archie got 2 with digital and stage 2 background valued at $600
Do you thinl we will reach 10k disk sold? Honest opinion
Yes
6k the first day, will decrease and the last hour increase, i mean, i wish we sell the 20k disk, but first day wasnt really optimistic 😦
Yeah, 20k will be a bit optimistic, but I think the 10k is likely.
Alexa himself will take care of it if he needs to, I wouldn’t doubt his solid “Yes”
Alexa doesnt pay rent 😆
Man IMX and then AWS, oh for the times when servers sat in your own basement.
I remember the first start-up I worked for had a server so loud that starting it up felt like an aeroplane was taking off in side the building... longing for those days.
I didn't realize it affected the games Zero and OverWorld
100+ ETH first 24 hours 👏
Both have been leaked, that one is Rhamphy but we decided to loose the ring for the sake of the accessories unfortunately!
I think 6k is a very good result so far, people will want to open more I think
and me too xD
Anyone else open up packs and don’t have the illuvitar
@vital stirrup please raise a support ticket if this occurred, due to the IMX and AWS outages there is a small chance of such an issue, we can rectify it on our end
How do I do a support ticket
?support
For support and bug reports, please use the following methods to contact us:
- Bug reporting: http://link.illuvium.io/bug
- General requests: email us at support@illuvium.io
@vital stirrup I have minting black outs next to the minted illuvitars
@vital stirrup I am missing some on ilv master it stop uploading also
I noticed that too. Like its frozen in time. The issues must have had a knock on effect to them too.
@tepid geyser blockchain is backed up not sure ..
I have no idea. I'm sure they do though.
@tepid geyser forces it through the pipeline
I have a few certificates from ivan on tech

I did earlier end purchased standard wave ones and a alpha standard I regret it lol
what you mean
Didn't get any good pulls
Yepp nothing good
so are you getting any promo?
Yah Secondary
are we going to get any discounts if we have Gamestop Illuvitars
oh you mean you just getting those illuvitars instead of pulling them
no need to guess
and no duplicates
@turbid moss I purchased 6 game stop yesterday all archie
Yah just a bit
Thats not the real price
LFG!
@fierce island background are t1
Doesnt matter. You're not getting 600 lol
7% pull
I snatched this super lucky 
true that
they look very much a like
unfortunate
that is sad.. you made out like a bandit
lucky you
so you think things will be sold out tomorrow?
even at 60$ it should be a steal just my 2cents
I think I am done opening
I'll buy a couple more and keep them closed
may open them in 5 to 10 years
if this is still around
how do i do this ?
6 was it for me then I opened wave 1 5 disk lol
i resisted and spent 0
you bought 0 D1sks
0 GME disks
@dim hamlet should have got more land
hipoing for low 300s
Small Fry
@dim hamlet I don't see market get that weak
Well crash no one will sell
I'd like to get t2 any way
escalation in Europe can bring markets to its knees
🤞
This is me.
Are you still noticing issues?
Anyone have an extra beta access code?
@topaz zodiac
I can DM you a code if that works for you
Then you can just plug it in on the official site
cool, thanks
Have fun, hope you enjoy beta!
Got it, thanks so much! Been loving it, just want to share the love with a couple friends 😄
When are we getting rewards airdropped?
hopefully tomorrow, they usually came today
but promo disk might have slowed everything down
Not sure, but will follow up ... + @wide swan @humble lodge
First GS Goliant sold....that Kieran?
No that was me
I had one overloaded Goliant, so I thought I best buy the other
I'm opneing a few more, its turning me against Doka 😒
I still need to pick up a couple Doka for the kids 😉
he looks pretty darn sick with the stage 3 BG... but seeing him too much is diluting the effect
for sure
I never liked Archie so that hasn't changed 😉
Usually tomorrow
Kids think GS Doka's awesome, I didn't have the heart to tell them otherwise. My 8 year old wants to use him for his pfp instead of his nice T3S3 BG grinning slashin
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
hah, looks and emotional connection matter too
I was just going through my collection with the kids working out what we are going to print
hehe yeah
I don't think my wife is going to like how many Illuvitars are going to be in our house
fun!
my wife says I cant hang any 😥 . I am going to anyways she just dosent know it yet lol
well honestly it will probably be the office for me, and a few in the house in the kids bedrooms
I haven't brought that one up yet....in due time
First one in this batch that wasn't Arhcie or Doka
nice!
nice colour combo
yep
dont bring it up just do it, best option lol
haha she'd notice instantly, but it would be funny....to me at least
Hello all, first message on this discord. Gamestop bought me in, ended up getting a pixelled Emberlynx. To be honest no idea what it is. I have registered for all of the games but have yet to receive any notification on how to join. Will this Disk give me access?
Congrats, that's a nice one!
The code for beta access showed up when you bought the disk, but I believe I've seen that you can open a support ticket to get one again still?
You're definitely not the only one who missed it on that screen...
Oh OK, I missed that. I was having some problems with the animations etc. Thank you.
is it possible to still get the gamestop mozart skin?
Wondering the same. I signed up for PowerUp Rewards Pro this morning and opened a support ticket with GS a bit ago to see if I could still get the code for it. Will post here if I have any luck!
yah please let me know was about to sign up to pro too to try it out lol
Having some conversations with GS Support, I believe they're doing their best to ensure people that signup for Pro can get access
Waiting for confirmation - will update once I can confirm with certainty
Sweet, thanks!
On the redemption end will the codes still be redeemable once the promo d1sk sale ends or do both end at the same time?
Yep the page will be active for 1 month at minimum
Excellent
🫡
Just tell her they are Talavera wall tiles...
big brain move
@mellow field? 😄
yep, that's the one
Dan's work or Vincent's? This is just plain 🔥
Hello I submitted a support ticket about the GS pro code. Been subscribed to them for awhile and claimed the M0zart skin already. When I try to use the discount code, it’s saying the “Promotion is inactive”
Dan 🙂
Try again my friend
Your team, man. I have no words. Just homerun after homerun with the art. My biggest worry now is Ill never have my forever PFP cause each wave and set will make me want to switch.
But thats perfectly fine mate! 😄
We dont set up a system thats able to make billions of combinations to then for you have 1 and never switch 😛
Welp about to dump .19ETH brb
Now it’s saying standard shipping is $65. But my order is over $300 😅
Let me have a look, that's odd ser
Mind trying again, I've just recreated the promo
Sure thing, clearing cart and will try again
Bet!! It worked!!
Awesome! Good to hear, lmk if any other issues 🫡
Got confirmation code and everything, thank you very much! 
Seems fine now, everything is up to date 👍
Last Weeks Beyond Rewards have been sent out folks, will post announcement soon. Congrats all 💥
someone knows what the lowest cost is to get in top 100?
Depends on your luck if you want to try by buying disks ... or by getting stuff from the marketplace
buying from marketplace
A combination of both might be the best bet honestly - try opening at least about 100 disks first , see what you get and fill in the gaps
I haven't done the math on that (might do it honestly to see how much it would cost) but if you re looking to complete the wave 1 collection at least 4-5 eth i think (that's not taking into account Holo versions of rare ones)
Going to illuvial master. My illuvitar collection was estimated at 2.6 ETH and I'm in top 100. But this is an estimate.
And I have quite a few copies. But most of them are worth less than the disks they were in.
At this point you have to ask if it's better to spend let's say 3 ETH on illuvitars or on #🥩〕staking .
If you're in top 100 you'll potentially get 26 ILV in the next year. Those are worth $1200 at this point. If APR is 70%, you need to have Like $1800 in the SLP pair to make those back. Which is like 3 times less than collecting the illuvitars.
Appreciationwise it's speculation which will be more valuable down the line.
Difficult to open 100 disks as they are selling for 50% above previous market value and there aren't even 100 for sale 😃 .
but u also have your illuvitars which will moon next bullrun
ILV will also moon 😉 And there will be revdis with it. It's up to you at this point.
I was trying to give you an alternative view, so that you can make a more informed decision.
Yep that is true about the cost - but i do see 164 standards and 85 megas for sale on tokentrove
Yes, I was referring to megas.
I suppose you could open the standards to try and get some decent accessories and hope you get lucky.
It's a tough task to try and do it on the cheap either way now I think.
i would think in round terms, T0 = 500 + accessories = 188, and wave one around 1750 + accessories = 625 total = 3000$
Give or take 500$
Can anyone from the team confirm if we are getting missed print auctions for the GameStop promos? Thanks.
Do you think such things will exist? Are backgrounds a part of the missed prints?
Maybe with Holos, there will be.
Backgrounds aren't included, holo expressions are. So as of now there would be 3 holo GS Goliants in the auction, providing they are included in the auction.
Would really like confrimation on this though.
Wow woke up this morning to Discord telling me to change my name as mine is discriminatory. Took me a while to figure it out. I chose this name because I love the show Knight Rider with David Hasselhof but it was taken so I tried tons of variations and finally found one. Little did I know that Night Rider has two meanings. The 2nd I had no idea about lmao
I like to consider myself pretty knowledgable but what is the second meaning?
Have to check it out online. Don't wanna type that in chat.
Easy to find though. I had no clue also until my buddy told me.
Haha I knew that by a completely different name
Lmao wtf. I was clueless. They said I could change it later but they are going to remind me very soon lol
I'll wait until last minute
Plus this is the only chat I've spoke in for weeks so either someone here reported it or it was just random
hast to be random
Hope so
@calm cedar perfect and it's like holding rights not just supporting other's beliefs
@calm cedar I am a 1.8 ethereum value on ilv master and not any where near board 241k points ?
@peak wing don't let feelings Trump your feeling of choice source first one energy
Got the same... I thought everyone has to change the name. Didn't really read it when i saw the "remind me later" button
@fierce island I was blocked from joining ilv discord for over a year I tried found out finally it was my name because the word silver trying say I was taking charge with silv2 naming
I'm glad my analysis was useful to you.
I recommend just playing at filling the album for a while and see if you enjoy it. Top 100 ain't easy but possible. I would recommend Illuvidex (secondary market) for illuvitars with rare expressions and rare backgrounds, which by definition, are rarer to get on disk opening. Also, there are a lot of illuvitars bonded, meaning that they already have acessories attatched, and they can not be removed or changed btw. But they offer larger points towards the leaderboard, and in many cases sell for less than the various components added up (which is the only way I would buy them..why pay a premium for something you could do yourself cheaper). good luck and have fun...there are many beautiful ones in the collection.
Taking offers on my collection if ya wanna save some time/effort
Ah ok. That makes more sense. Thank you for letting me know.
put your rare expressions on illuvidex at 20% under floor and I'll buy some. Otherewise if you got a bunch of zeros and clown noses, bond them all and sell them for pennies just to get rid of them 😉
I'm good with holding thanks, its an all or nothing deal, I'm buying floor tier 0's not selling 😉
who you think is pushin the floor ;)?
I wanna know who lists the same illuvs at the same price multiple times a day...if they want to actually sell them and not clog up illuvidex they should be lowering prices each listing. And glad someone buying zeros lol good luck on their lt prospects 😉
So i've actually put something together and the numbers are like this if you just buy from the marketplace to fill all the illuvitars in wave 1 (all 3 expressions for each illuvitar - except lynxes where you don't need all 3 to fill its album slot; no holos; all with background tier 1 - basically cheapest possible):
Floor price with all 3 Rhamphyres included: $16027
Floor price without any Rhamphyre: **$3857 **
These are today's prices - tomorrow it might change
This excluding accessories?
Yep .. all clean
Well I can see the speculative play at 25 cents, statistically T0 Illuvials will likely be the most played Characters as everyone will have to start in the T0 zones and a large portion of any F2P Playerbase is actually Free To Play
It has been stated that T0’s will have different backgrounds each wave, so I can see why people are choosing to accumulate Wave 1 Background T0’s.
Not a play I’m that crazy on, but I can understand why.
With no accessories and all being base cheapest floors, that makes sense, it’s when you start to fish for Holos + Rare Expression + Rare Background + Rare Stage stuff really runs up at premium
Then add on anything above 10% accessories to everything and 😅
thanks for the run down! in terms of leaderboard you can def make it with out filling the most expensive of these slots tho
i get this is prob just the simplest way to give people a general idea
Yep exactly ... and the points you get for these but i hope it doesn't get too confusing are 92024 - **BUT ** this is calculated if you place each illuvitar in 1 spot (not in the wave 1 collection/ not in T0 collection - each one placed in its Line album -> Beetle Line you will have Goliant / Smirking Goliant / Laser Goliant - so it doesn't take into account that the same Goliant might be placed in another 5-6 sleeves banking an extra 12000-13000 points) .
It's difficult to estimate the max points you can get with this because it's based on every individuals choice to place/bond a specific illuvitar in a specific sleeve
thanky you guys for explaining rly helpfull ❤️
No problem - hope it helps 🙂
Is the delay of wave 2 because the promo disks are not sold out yet?
Wave 2 was always planned to come after promo wave. No delay happened
Oh interesting. Good to know. Thanks
Thank god cause the alpha sale would have been very disappointing
with the same values yes would be
You think gamestop will sell out? I still have faith it will haha
👀
yesterday i would have said this will never sell out but this looks good atm hard to say
Wouldnt be surprised if kieran and them buy the remaining 5k disks or whatever to sell it out haha
Funny though, start of the bear market we sold 70m+ of land easy and now 1m is seemingly a struggle
Also there was utility with land, and at the time it was expected within 4 weeks of the end of the sale to be able to play it.
i dont really see the benefit of buyers perspective with only 4 illuvitars but time will tell how they will be traded
or 5?
ok 6 with t0
T0 went from being free to costing 50$ now 😜
Doka is the best looking
Always have been
Krunk is from the movie nightcrawler
I think there is 12000 ? How many GameStop disks have been sold ?
I think about 12k left is correct
Not selling well....not surprised, this one has been very disappointing but the team will learn for next promo
No way not even close
In my opinion I think its mostly bear market blues. I feel like a bull market would have sold out in a hour. But thats just my speculative opinion
Partly but mostly cause there are so few characters....to me it seemed like a rushed cash grab ....but I know team will want to do better
True true. I mean, Illuvitars sole purpose is cash grab. Like, wave 1 was to fund runway and the promo is to make money with gamestop
But it's also going to be a game , ah well main products are still great
Hopefully yes! I can actually see some 3rd parties making games around it which could be cool, just links to the illuvium nfts etc
Wow impressive
Love that one 🥹 probably my favorite Gamestop Illuvitar
Its Alexa's now
It would be them
oh mai
of course it is
Alexa got the top 2 most powerful GS so far
Holo glitter is a great combo
funny how he got the glitter dash on the 1º gamestop disk he opens 🤣
now that's a bang
We have a selection of Illuvitars available for the GameStop Promo, and we'll have a similar sized selection for other partnerships in the future. (We have a few equally large names planned that will coincide with PvP/Arena PB3 launching).
There has definitely been some learnings, I think we can improve in many areas.
Kieran will have an update for those participating in the GameStop Sale Event. He's been fighting to ensure we can offer the ILV Community more value above what's been provided so far.
Good to hear 🙂
I think with minor tweaks, next promos could do better. For instance, I think that 1 illuvitar per pack for $50 felt a little difficult (when compared with wave 1 pricing). With the current odds, would have probably made sense to have more illuvitars per disk, say 5 per disk for 100$ a disk and 10k disks available for sale (or 2 per disk for $40-50 or so).
Ofc I understand everything is easier with hindsight but there is a psychological barrier when it comes to drawing only one item out of a disk with a 75%+ chance of instant depreciation
I'm wondering if in the future it might be better to have promos have illuvitars not from the preceding wave but from the upcoming one - that way they give a small, short term utility of being able to be slotted into albums and can give leaderboard points before the wave comes out.
I'd also love to see the album/sleeving of the promo be able to be completed by an "average" collector - currently it feels unreachable to most people and I'd rather not have it be "normal" to leave albums incomplete. Or maybe have multiple albums for promo, one that is doable and one that is more for hardcore mode
I love the ideas of promos - I think this current one has some areas for improvement, but I'm bullish on partnerships continuing and the way they're done can be super great with a few tweaks
A very cool thought!
Mentioning this to Rogier
would be cool to have a wave 2 promo before wave 2 comes for sure
but maybe team needs a bit more time to figure stuff out
I’ve been saying, it would have been a great time to release the apes pfp in the promo D1sks. Would draw more attention from the GS community. Even adding a little buck the rabbit(GS mascot) logo would drive hype.
For sure… if they were to have promos be for the upcoming wave they’d have to totally reshuffle their work flow so it’s not an easy thing since they’re already working ahead
Thanks! I know that “power creep” is always a concern, in terms of trying to have promos have innate value so they are desirable (which is good for all parties involved) but not making them too much better than wave releases… one way this could be done is that the illuvials in them would be considered a good price, but due to the innate bonding their power levels would not be super impressive. Maybe you get tier 2 and up illuvitars in promos, but due to their accessories only being 2.5% I’m guessing people competitive on the leaderboard would want to replace them later on with non-promo illuvitars that have higher better accessories
so I guess this Promo D1sk will reach over 10,000 or around there
no..
Gamestop promo will sell under 11,000
unless you buy a lot of it
The bright side is that will be good for the holders :p
so far we are selling 3,571 per day
.... 100% impossible
unless Kieran buys it all
LOL
I might help out and buy a couple
but the less people buy the better
so less of these guys floating around
it is cheaper now with Ethereum going down
We're working with GameStop to give out a bonus for purchasers of 5 or more and are extending the sale due to the technical issues experienced with IMX and AWS. Stay tuned
Curious when is Wave 2 starting
oh okay
I guess in that case we can sell out
What is the extension
length
There was an hour or two downtime so somewhere in that region i'd guess.
okay
I already bought 5 so hopefully we can get some nice drops
LOL
how much time in between Promo d1sk and Wave 2
GameStop would like to extend it much longer, likely to be 7 days in total now as they are going to be doing another email campaign which is highly beneficial to us
Wow ok, didn't expect that.
Probably one of the coolest things we've ever given away IMO
Awesome!
cool!
Got my 5+ 😄
I will get a few more to keep close
Will Gamestop give M0z4rt skin codes for new subscribers?
If they make it known, will probably get a bunch from here lol
They don't like creating high urgency, given the bonuses we are now offering they want to allow time for their customers to read the communication and purchase
Yeah, I'm a fan of having a weekend in there for sure
so that means an entire weekend extra?
Weekday for a 3 day event seem a little difficult for most
those gifs were annoying, what i was trying to say was "lambo would have been the coolest thing"
Yeah
especially those who have no clue what illuvium is
How is Gamestop going to help promote it
I saw their add on Gamestop and it is hard to see unless you scrow through the banner
and it was the last banner out of all those banners
😦
wouldn't most people be clicking somewhere else by then?
why not just keep the gamestop ones going forever till sellout, no rush
new gamestop mailing list shout out sounds good
is there a reason to delay launch of the wave 2 of set 1 illuvitars? we can always launch them simultaniously and have them run side by side, let the gamestop ones sell out with their own incentives (they also somewhat target a different base of consumers)
They don’t promote NFTs heavily on their retail website…this is the 1st time I’ve ever seen them do so.
If you go to GS Market place it’s actually the 1st banner you’re greeted with
I'm getting an error saying I need an Etherium Wallet? I have metamask with plenty of Eth.
Have you connected with wallet and signed with IMX to create an IMX L2 (it should do it as part of the standard process, so an error is odd)
Yup i've done that before
Absolutely, the email outs have been of great benefit and exposure - love to see GameStop coming to the table with more email comms
They said q3 for wave 2. So its not really delaying if they come in august. Plus a little time in bewteen would not be bad.
A holo rham? 😂
GameStop Pro Rewards members (5-6million they said I believe) have already received 2 emails and likely going to get at least 1 more. So thats a lot of new eyes on Illuvium as well
And i'm doing this while my Metamask is connected to the Illuvidex? Any suggestions? I know there isn't enough Eth on my IMX. It keeps giving me the error when I try to deposit from Meta
This is usually because you have 2 or more Wallet extensions active
well, it is a start.
usually you should turn off the one trying to take over like GameStop wallet or Phantom for example
Is that whats happening? I don't have a Gamestop Wallet. Only Meta and Phantom
Phatom almost gauranteed the issue
in Phantom settings
Yup.. You were right. Weird. Didnt even have Phantom signed in and it was on always ask.. But still caused the error. Thanks!
I wonder if we could pivot to this since wave 2 wont happen soon
Snapshot for this week has been taken folks!
I got mine 😁
you are welcome Rich now you get double rewards lol
I had to feel physical pain from bonding all my good accessories, I will not thank you
and I dont even keep mine ser
going to give them away
my plan as come full circle 🤣
Maybe there can be something like a Secret Rare in the promo packs. But guaranteed to be pulled IE if there are 20000 disk maybe have 20 Secret Rares that are in there somewhere and make them randomised in a way that every 1000 packs sold will have one.
the Goliants are already rarer than that (well not quite, if you count all variations)
😉
in any case we will do some tweaking for the next promo, I think just having a few more T1 and T0s would make huge difference
the idea of having some new ones used in the promo is really cool though @surreal pecan
prob wouldn't even need 7 days but doesn't hurt to add more time
Cheap ILV
why not? did I miss something? not ready or?
team has now said it wont be this long of a wait or at least voiced this
hey Dan.
if Gamestop and Kieran ended up extending the sale and give more value to the promo it will prove my point that selling out is the most important matrix for success
much thanks ser
NFT drop is all about minting out
so you can tweet "Sold Out"
good thing IMX and AWS happened tho, now you can tweet
"Due to technical issue with IMX and AWS we will give more chance for our Fans to grab the Promo Illuvitars. The Sale is now extened until (enter date). As a token of appreciation for your continued support we will give a Bonus D1sk for every 5 purchases. Hurry up before it runs out!"
I like the jagGPT chat
gahh been there seen that
thats all that makes an NFT drop successful to you? nothing else?
yup
ok lol
selling out shows demand and hype exist, though I think even with another 7 days the GME d1sk won't hit that
i hope it will mint out, otherwise its gonna be what we call a "flop"
sorry if i sound harsh, just to give a diff PoV
NFT market is so shitty
Combined with the price point,~$50 for an entry into when alpha 2s are being discussed as a fifth that makes them a hard buy for newcomers
I was actually excited to only see only 8k-9k get sold, less of them. But extending the sale makes a lot of sense
I agree price is a little steep
but its just the first promo, live and learn i guess
for secondary value, cutting out supply will be beneficial for existing holders and create scarcity.
or dnt cut supply and airdrop it to the minters
i wonder if the team has consulted the illuvitar enthusiast
before dropping this promo
i saw the same complaints on discord and twitter
@pastel bison did you buy this or sell it?
like ive been saying dillution is something that has to be seriously considered. its the same 7K holders, now plus some GME minters who wont stick around for long.
It'll be interesting to see what portion of this promo ends up unlisted and unminted
He bought it
Hot damn!
no kidding
I was trying to sell my one for 15 ETH (although I was expecting less)... 4 seemed like a steal 😉
(who knows maybe I am wrong, but I feel cool owning both of the available Overloaded Goliants 🙂 )
Maybe we shouldn’t have an end date on a promo drop. Should just be 20K items for sale.
This isn’t the right time to be trying to sell out in a limited time span. Maybe it’s a poor strategy in general. Same with the alphas, just have a limited number, no time limit.
Bought a GS and yep you guessed it Awesome Doka!
damn only 5 rare expression GS dash and 2 goliant... no wonder they're selling for more than rhamphyres
Your "NFT trader" mentality of trying to profit from useless pump and dump random PFP projects does not win you many points here. Nor does the measure of success of that world apply here. In case you haven't noticed, this NFT run is just a part of a much bigger world with an entirely different scope, present and future utility. The main measure of success here is how many new eyes they bring to the game as a whole, not what you tweet out for a bunch of NFT flippers. New people don't even have to touch these promo NFTs, just try the beta and some will get hooked on the game. That is a success. So you can call it a flop if you want, these limited editions will appreciate in the future, unlike most of the pfp projects you compare this to.
well their plan to extend the sale period kinda proved my point about minting out. otherwise just end it as planned.
sure everything will pump eventually, but if you look at the alpha mega disks are selling below mint price.
Sale gonna be extended?
sure u can pat your back saying we get more beta applicants from the promo, although i dnt know whats the target before the mint, so it is impossible for outsider to gauge success. you can always move the goal post after the fact.
im just giving you a different Point of View. all we NFT traders gonna say is it didnt mint out, which i hope is not true
as per kieran
Oh I see now
just my 2 cents, i hope a different PoV is helpful. an echo chamber might not be always beneficial
And all you NFT traders can say what you want, it is irrelevant. You are not the target market. This project needs gamers to succeed, not flippers.
you can believe that fairytale. but most of ILV volume will come from traders.
aka flippers
Tbh they need both, flippers bring in volume, fees, attention
exactly
the crypto, specifically NFT market is predominantly traders
collectors just hold, good luck earning tx fees on them
a very simple example.
IZ plot is only 10% - 13% listed. meaning most of the holders held and never listed. however the minority 10% dictate the floor price
Well, yes, you are right on that. I guess what I meant is that NFT flippers are not the main target market but they are beneficial for the activity for sure. Even I can be considered a flipper since I do buy some to flip later, but I am also a collector and a future gamer. And the overall, long term success of Illuvium depends on players, not flippers. So you can downplay the significance of the millions of new eyes on the project, they do matter a lot. You say the goalposts were moved, I think you were just looking at the wrong goalposts the whole time. Yes, the money this run brings in is nice, and yes, a sellout is better, but they are far from the only metrics that matter.
sure its good that we have widen the reach
partnership is always good
its a shame that NFT market may have a different view
i dislike it myself
its toxic
I dislike and disagree with the extended sale.
Buying decisions have been made under the now false pretense of a 3 day sale. Feels a lot like being rugged at this point.
The Goliant pull rates were also advertised at 0.2% and we are currently below 0.1%, poor rng or more false advertising. With the open willingness to move goal posts i'm leaning towards the latter.
All leaves a sour taste and I honestly don't think I will be participating in any more of these sales.
I think its important to note that the sale extension was originally planned to only be for the duration of the AWS downtime, but it was communicated that GS does not like to do limited time extensions and would prefer a longer period for marketing purposes, so there may be a factor of having their hands tied. I'm definitely not in favor of the large extension but am for the limited time version of it. Pull rates are RNG and unless sold out can't be considered.
i feel u man. im more incline to cutting supply and ending it to preserve minters value
projects like to make the mistake of extending sales
Im not denying that it is certainly a good matrix for success. However I stand by my points that it isn't the only matrix of success we should be looking at
all GS care is reporting to their boss that the drop minted out
I'm not sure the people that bought want the sale to be extended tho, what if they buy because it doesn't look like it's going to sell out? Less supply, better value in future?
best way to deal with this is to listen to your holders
I think we should also consider the time of the sale next time we do such a limited one... cause during weekdays its just not good, we should at least have one weekend withing the salewindow imo
and reddit blackout
but GS is a corporate might be hard to reschedule
they wouldnt knw sht about dropping a collection tho
While I partially agree that extending the sale is a bad decision especially for holders and people who made buying decisions based on the 3day sale I think there's a good side to this -> more time for more people to look at Illuvium. Long term it might have a bigger and positive impact to attract - idk i'm just throwing numbers here - another 500-1000 new wallets to IL Beyond and the ecosystem overall
General marketing should handle drawing eyes though - limited releases should drive fomo for the next limited or alpha run from those that miss out
I can understand if they were on shaky legs financially and needed an immediate boost, but I don't think we're in that case here
I'll add GameStop have agreed to do two additional emails about Illuvium to their 6million ProReward members + tweets from GameStop NFT and GameStop accounts.
the wording says "Available until June 15, 2023 at 10:01 PM UTC or until sold out" the only thing thats ever been limited has been the disk numbers thre has never been a time limit
you're reading that incorrectly, the or is modifying the available until time
if they sold out earlier it would be a shorter availability
would consult the community, especially the minters and the whale holders before making a decision?
i take it that most of the minters are the existing illuvitar holder
generally in NFT, changing the rules mid mint or post mint is a red flag. airdrop may cheer people up
but lower supply is always better
Yes it's a valid point but it's not like in marketing you snap your fingers and get hold of a potential 6 million customers database to address to. If they have that chance using GS i think it's a good trade off - again not trying to undermine the negative effect this has/will have to holders and people who already bought
But didn't they already email those people? I personally don't like getting multiple emails about the same subject
From my understanding no they didn't - maybe someone can confirm?
The pull rates are already bad and most of the things that are getting pulled are way below the €50 because the same ones are being flooded on the market. The longer the sale is active the worse it will become.
Also kieran said in the discord that people will get some sort of compensation because the promo isnt going well. But only if you purhased 5 or more. Is this debatble? Its €50 dollar per disk and not everybody is willing to lay down €250 for more archies or dokkas.
I bought 4 but i want to know what that extra thing is before i consider buying another one.
I agree I think this sale should have ended as intended and perhaps just have next promo disk (until sold out and do away with sale time limit as the 20000 only already makes it limited enough. - and yeah the pull rate sucks ⚽⚾🥎🏀🏐
pull rates were communicated at release though, every % is displayed on the launch party landing page
they're not great for a $50 product but thats for the consumer to weigh individually
a wider demand may not even bring up the floor of the basic tier 0's if they have no interest in the GS exclusivity
The sale extension is certainly mixed news. I also made some buys yesterday based on the trajectory of the drop not selling out. Those buys will now be devalued with the extra sales. However, the extension with the extra emails and the extra drop will benefit the long-term prospect of the project as a whole, so I think we need to take this one on the chin. The more eyes and players the project gets the more successful it becomes and then the value of even the now cheap ones will go up. We do lose some short term value but might win more over the long run.
that is why I only bought 1,... in case down the track having one GSD will have another benefit. Plus I wanted to feel the high Intensity FOOD (Fear of opening d1sk).... My heart has never beaten so fast opening a D1sk 😂
Winner winner chicken dinner! I got Team Doka and for $50 I am never changing my profile picture ever.
I bought a single d1sk as a future value play but after looking at the remarket volume on standard a1 d1sk decided to just pop it to take advantage of any current demand before the a2 release
either way they've stated they learned a lot about premium promotional releases from this one so I believe they'll have better incentive moving forward
I understand your feelings about the extension, but the pull rate accusation may not be fair play. You might want to double check your own pull rate of holo rhamphyres and S5T3 backgrounds before you complain about the Goliand one over a very limited drop. The project has no reason to manipulate drop rates.
I think these NFT would look awesome on a T-Shirt though.
Yes the RNG of pull rates isn't something we can control or check and as far as i know there isn't a 'pity timer' like in some games where if you don't get something rare/legendary etc after X amount of pack openings it will be guaranteed.
But as far as i know Alexa has also bought many of those T5S3s so it's not a fair 'accusation' ... And honestly at the amount of disks he bought maybe he should've gotten more 😄
long term? the GS people will forget about this drop next month
they prob gonna brick the floor too
'brick the floor' ?... what does it mean? 😄
its when a lot kf people list their common nfts, thus making a wall of floor price nft
wall of bricks
which is hard to knock down
Oh i see .. makes sense .. thanks 🙂
few things to consider
- web2 people are used to spend $50 on a full AAA game
- this is $50 gacha with high chance of getting a nft worth $9
- nft of unlaunched game
- The nft is pfp, not illuvials
I think "you" should double check my holo pull rates, they are exactly in line with what you would expect based on the statistical probabilities. 1 in 20 holo, I pulled approximately 60 Rhamphyres. I traded and sold some so I no longer have that amount, but yeah.
I am also referring to pull rates in relation to all disks opened, not just my own. They are not as advertised and I struggle to believe RNG accounts for this drastic reduction in pull rates.
It can never be proven, so any discussion regarding it is in vein. I am just stating my grievances, disagree or not, what's done is done.
can, if the devs look at their code 😛
Not happy with the lastest beyond related ideas
i also think droprates should have been a bit better for the more rare stuff so that at least a few ppl could complete the album, but on the other hand if you make it too easy to pull goliants then the ppl that have bought wave1 goliants will complain that they devalue theirs... no matter how you do it you will always upset some ppl
the GS collection would be fine if there weren't goliants in there
So extending this sets a terrible precedent. Nobody will take these "limited" time offers seriously in the future. People will just sit back and instead of an initial run to buy disks they will just assume Illuvium will pivot if they don't sell out. Not a good look at all.
Where is it stated sale is extended? That doesn’t make any sense
Perfect timing haha
Oh. Announcement dropped just now. Hate that decision tbh
lol
and they extend it another 3 days. interesting
Also a bad reasoning for extending 3 days
The reason
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it is disrupted for a few hours and we extend it for 3 days?
Then state it publicly.
Also bad. When something is announced, it’s shouldn’t be changed. Makes it hard to trust communication from team
If not impossible
There are far more important factors long term than trying to sell out. Trust is very important
called it
They shouldn't have time constrained the sale from beginning. That way people know from beginning that they still have more chances to pull something unique instead of going on secondary market quickly and pay high price to collect something unique..
not enough sales 🙈
ouch way 3 days more ?
Next month is not long term. I'm talking about 4-5 years. If the project will be as successful as we hope it will be, these early limited edition NFTs will be valuable collector items. And they don't need to be GS people.
yeah for those who already bought for high prize it could hurt
You literaaalllly called it lmao. If it wasnt for AWS what would the excuse be?
That's not the reason. @fierce island don't spread false information. Please remember yourr a council member and even if its for the memes people might take it literally.
Ngl, I thought they of this too when I saw the sale numbers 😂
There are way to many of them because of the low variations. So i dont see most of the dokkas and archies getting verry expensive. Maybe the holo ones.
What is the reason then?
Wanna ask, what's the drop rate for the promo Disks?
oof u got me man. i cant think of a better excuse lol.
probably something like "We are reaching broader audience and GS agreed to extend the sale to give more people the chance at our Promo Sale. 6 million people will be emailed.
I will not need to check your pull rates, but I have seen you mention on this chat earlier how lucky you have been with pulls from wave 1. I'm just saying that it does not seem fair to accuse the team of manipulating drop rates if you - or this drop as a whole - now have a bad stretch. The difference of 0.1% and 0.2% over a sample of 8k mints is very well within the normal RNG range. As a formal professional poker player, I could share stories of steaks of brutal luck, but no one would care about them. It's part of the game. I had much worse luck with pulls from wave 1 than many people but never thought that it was because the team was, for some unknown reason, manipulating the drop rate.
Did the council approved that?
Making the drops rarer would hurt Illuvium not help it, based on the perception of the sale to date an error in the direction of more higher tiers would have been really beneficial.
The data team does periodic reviews of the probability distribution for the Beyond d1sks, but as @fathom lintel pointed out with only 8k mints the drops rates seem well within normal ranges. We will do a review at the end of the sale (and publish the results), and if there is still concern we can also do a code review on it too.
I can't categorically say that an error was not made, but it is the same code as Wave 1, so it seems unlikely.
dude what are you talking about?
We put out a roadmap and have hit every single thing on it so far.
There was one change and that's what you focus on?
Isn't that always what happens? Building a reputation takes years, taking it down takes minutes
He is refering to future sales and i would agree
Regarding sales extension I can't really say too much as it is not my area.
I do think there is value in the DAO being able to make what I call 'immutable decisions', decisions that are very difficult to revoke (for example requiring multiple sequential council epochs to vote on them before a change can be made). I wrote a draft IIP for this some time ago, but haven't put it out for community feedback yet.
Damn since joining illuvium more than a year ago, having played and invested in all 4 games, this is my first time having some negative thoughts about our team... Why am i getting cold feet with this decision? 😔
Give them some time to explain why they do things the way they do
I mean, they already explained it as AWS outage being the reason, which none of us ‘buy’
Bought nearly 100 GS discs, got 1 Tier 4, 1 Tier 3, 3 Tier 2, and the rest, you get the idea. Well, it happens... I was really hoping that the sale would end soon, and I could make up for my bad luck. And then the news came, and I got really upset. It's not right, and it's saddening.
not a single love emoji on that announcement
Don't forget that there is also a billion-dollar brand with negotiating power in this picture. Let's not throw this team under the bus so quickly. This is the first of this kind of sale, so even if mistakes are made, we can all learn from them and use this experience to make many future promo sales better.
do something fraggy
What would you want me to do ser
The deal was made already. It looks like new deals are being made now
give a love emoji?
I wait the new last day for a 50% sale.
on kieran's announcement lol
Whats funny is adding 3 days to it probably won’t increase the sales much unless they spontaneously go crazy with marketing and extra rewards
people are genuinely have concern here and they just went with it kek
Well he did mention some extra reward
Yet somehow the team always made up for all the earlier mishaps, including the silv hack, leaderboards delay etc.
I believe they will make up for it too. But that doesn’t take away from whats happening now
anything for "Sold Out"
Can we get an IIP everytime an announcement is made, a team member goes in voice for 30 min to handle the first questions? 😅
we have been chatting here all day before the announcement
So happy that i bought only 1
I don’t really know what they should have done but I think just sticking with their original plan is probably a good idea. But I guess it is a deal with GS so it is a good idea to try to promote this product more.
I am talking about communicating that a sale is x time, and then during the sale extending it 100% duration. Lots of people making decisions based on this feels screwed over, and that comes down to standing by what you have communicated. This is a change based on internal team considerations, and not some unfortunate thing which cannot be helped.
if you still cant see the problem. GG
please dont down play our concern
If someone new comes into illuvium and bought those d1sk at those prices and keep getting Archies and dokas, they would be turned off
It's not like there is a recipe to follow in these situations. You and I also don't have access to the GS team and what they think about this. I just see people suddenly jumping at the throat of the team over a single decision, even if it's controversial. I also hurt from this as a buyer based on the limited sales but it does not suddenly negate all the tremendous work the team produced over the last 2 years.
+1 day would be ok after the aws outage but +3 is just not right
People in the IRL world would not buy a picture for $50 worth potentially $9
LOL there is. Ive been saying it all day
Whats the point of putting a 3 day time limit if they extend when they dont sell out in 3 days? I think no time limit is smarter
Does it really matter how long it's extended?
Gs obviously agreed to the 3 day time limit
No it doesn’t reallly. But I do see what it looks like to people when you extend. It is how it looks.
people who are used to buy a full AAA game for $50 
Maybe because thats what the GS people wanted since they want to send more emails and not rush their list?
Yeah but this is not a full triple A game. It is for one photo
I bet people speculated on the current demand and bought because of it. Now annoucing +3 days + extra rewards to push the sales
exactly, not a good start for onboarding ill say
I dont get it. Then why the 3 day limit if its just gonna extend till it sells out…
Just wait for some more feedback from the team, no need to make assumptions. There is always a reason
What are you doing with your one pFP photo of Archie or doka for $50 a piece
If anyone doesn't want his GS Illuvitar, I don't have any yet 
i sell you my doka for 50$ 🤨
I’ll send you a Doka for 50$
Too late
Then what’s a point? the logic of time-limited sales is completely lost.
You send me $50 for my doka.
LOL. Kidding. I’ll keep it and see where it goes in the distant future
Not everything will go smoothly
I find it very strange that the sale will be extended by 3 days. So if it's only about the error of AWS, then 1 day would have been enough. When it comes to selling out the collection, I'm not sure if that helps. The problem is that $50 for a single Illuvitar (without extra accessories) is already extremely expensive. Also, most people don't buy multiple packs as in most cases they will end up with multiple Dokas and/or Archies. So the probability that you get an Illuvitar, which you have not yet drawn in the GS design is too low. A total of 6 Illuvitars is simply not enough variation. So the next Illuvitar cooperation for 50$ simply has to offer more or the price has to be reduced!
But let's wait for the announcement, maybe the team still has something up its sleeve!
Just to throw in my two cents.... This seems like a very bad decision. It really hurts the people who have been spending money on the game. The value of their investment gets reduced because the "rules" are getting changed. And if you change the rules mid-way, and hurt the people who invest in you in an attempt to get more people to invest, you shoot yourself in the foot. The new people will see how you treated your supporters and will be turned off from joining.
I threw a lot of money into the wave 1 sale, and a lot into this one, and I have very little to show for it. I was really hoping the sale would run out with a lot of discs unsold to hopefully boost the value of all of the Dokas and Archies I have. That just went out the window. Why would I want to put more money into this???
Anyone still having IMX issues? Keeps saying I don’t have a wallet, but I clearly am connected with that wallet to illuvium already
I had a similar issue a few weeks ago. I updated chrome and the wallet in the extensions and it worked. Not sure if that will work for you, but it fixed my issue.
I guess you will get a few free Promo D1sks
are they still going to give out 1 free Promo D1sk for 5 promo D1sks you buy
they should give you 1 free mega Alpha D1sk in Wave 2 for each 10 promo D1sks you buy
I think the D1sks should be only $15 to $25
sell GS disk for silv2...i have 3...knowing how lucky I am, I'm afraid to open them
I haven't heard of that. It would be nice, but I doubt it. The only thing I've seen in writing is 1 standard disk and 1 mega disk in wave 2 for however many hundred of disks purchased in wave 1.
Just tried that, but still no luck. Thanks for the response though.
Probably on their end. Sorry man.
you should have a mail to the address that was linked to your illuvium account.
Im just making an assumption here but this might have been a factor to the extension as well
i havnt
what is your opinion on people's concern here?
so how do i get my free metal print hummm ?
I'm ride or die Illuvium supporter... But I gotta agree with this take
Oh didn't see that... well.. I guess it is what it is
Its definitely valid. I dont have all the info yet to be able to answer anyone's concerns on this. But what I can say is that there seems to be multiple layers to the decision and its not just financially motivated.
I still don't get why we are trying to sell a useless PFP at 50$ and promote it that much to web2 players.
If it was to get an illuvial and the player that join are able to play it when they join from the promo. well ok. but this..
The first question that I see in general chat from new : "Where can I play my Illuvitar" "Oh illuvitar is not an illuvial" ?.
sorry but even if it's a big collab opportunity. I don't get how it can help Illuvium.
has kieran talked to the subcouncil or council about this?
The idea is these new people now heard about Illuvium and they can do research, nobody should spend $50 without knowing what they are buying
yea ive seen it. They thought illuvitar is illuvial
So just make an email announcement from a collab and give betakeys with a 5$ disk ..
Marketing is not my forte but I heard somewhere that it takes X number of times of seeing a brand before people recognize or gets interested in it. So even if people dont buy in to the promo d1sks people are made aware of Illuvium.
Thats marketing mileage.
But I can understand people get confused when you advertise it as buy a D1SK and get beta access
5$ for a beta key seem's worth for web2 player. but 50 -.-
Valid point. It does
$50 for a $9 pfp and beta access. no wonder web2 people hate NFT
i hope the web2 people dnt see this as cash grab
which is not obviously
"inside leak from someone : "I stopped by the local gamestop today. They had no idea of the project and was kinda agro I was even talking about crypto gaming. "
Is gamestop only from a region that does that collab with illuvium ?
i appreciate that you are one of the council who shows up. showing up matters.
havent seen the dj
Yes, that's one of the things I don't like. A lot of times when an announcement is made here, nobody is around to reply on questions about it
we got u fraggy
Oh he has been around
I'm usually around. A lot of people just dont like my opinions 😆
web2 sentiment toward crypto and nft is at all time low. FTX, binance, "nft is sc@m" thing
i missed your unfiltered opinion
If this is someone from USA #1, then depending on what part of the country they're in there could be some real ANTI-crypto takes
Me too buddy, me too.
Not really an inside leak. It's nowhere on the GameStop website. At least I couldn't find it a couple days ago..
wht did they do to you
The same thing they do to dogs that they dont want to reproduce anymore...
There was a banner
But really I'll always share my true opinion on things, I just have to use a bit cleaner language within those opinions
neutered?
Sharing your opinion is 1 thing, sharing a solution is maybe more helpful from a council member
Where??
On the GS website
I'm pretty sure there wasn't lol
Spent a while searching... You saw it though personally?
Yes
Ok.. then I'm wrong 👍
I can't even access their site hahaha. We don't have gamestop in our country
I really wonder how big it is, all europeans I talked to only know it because of the meme stocks but never saw a store
gamestop nft not the web2 gamestop
@valid sierra Yup I see it now. Really don't think it was there a few days ago. Maybe GS forgot to promote and are realizing they f*cked up. Because I spent a while looking for info on that site 🤣😂
Ohhhhh....
they are literally toys shop now
sorry i should say action figure
So buy 5 D1SK and you get an atlas plushee?
I used to love going to the mall and just browsing gamestop for an hour
Bought a ton of discounted used games there
gamestop in australia is EB games
Was a great place for people who couldnt afford to buy a bunch of games 'new'
It's on Web2 GameStop now
I swear it wasn't though 🤣 but I believe Fraggy
can they afford $50 pfp tho
First mistake
lol
yea i dont like this variant of sjud
Bear market hitting hard
You need to be able to interpret my use of lol
Youll get my meaning of things through that
With 5826 burned GameStop D1SKs at a 0.2% drop rate the probability of 7 or less goliants getting pulled is 1 in 10. So yes it’s unlike that that would occur but very possible
But yeah extending the sale by more than the original sale using aws’s few hour outage is a bit of a weird thing
If you did that by hand and didnt use Chat GPT.... 🤓
I've just forgotten how to do all my stats stuff but I recently figured out i can just ask ChatGPT to do it for me
thank goodness I didn't bet anyone LOL woulda been out a illuvitar
ur were betting on minting out?
I definitely remembered that this was a binomial distribution problem with a formula P(X = k) = C(n, k) * (p^k) * ((1-p)^(n-k)), then did the calculation in my head from my discrete structures class yup 😆
But also i was never a pro poker player like that other guy but I’ve played >100k hands of online poker so yeah you learn that seemingly impossible probability things happen. And that they’re not as impossible as you think.
Poker really changes perspective on things in life
Yup I ask chatgpt for binomial distribution solves to see how unlucky I am in random pull events
It makes me feel both better and worse about myself lol
It actually gave you the answer? Do you have access to the Python interpreter plug-in? I can’t wait for that
gonna need some cheese and crackers to go with the whine here 😉
you all big boys and girls...it was pretty obvious what was gonna happen.
And I support the extended sale not that I'll buy any 😉
You have to word things correctly and itll do the math for you
It seems like the games getting some good marketing out of this so I’m good with it.
I would double check those answers. It can very easily fuck it up without code interpreter plugin
Hmm possibly
Sarcasm?
Hmmm no, think it has been 12500 since I woke up
Been going on 1-2h of sleep for a few days, I might be wrong 
I also went to my local GameStop and asked them about it. They had no clue what I was talking about.
Love people who get mad about the words crypto gaming but have no issues with loot boxes and card packs in web2..... it's no different. The hypocrisy is wild.
honestly i wouldn't have expected Gamestop in-person employees to be briefed on it, if i went into a gamestop and they tried to direct me to an nft it might come off a little scammy even tho im into nfts
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thanks mozart lol
Couldn’t find if this was answered. I can only speak for strategy sub council, but we did not partake in this decision.
To be fair to those people most of them probably don’t like loot boxes. But people love blowing money on non transferable skins
There's no difference
A lot of the complaint from these people comes from the rng nature of it.
Although i don’t see many people complain in CS:GO, wonder why that is 🤔 and the cs go marketplace is dogshit compared to what you can build with web3s open nature
It's purely and uneducated stigma that the governments and non-crypto friendly industries groom in web2 players
an illuvium banner like that one was there from before the start of the GS sale.
if GS partners with a company or brand and its 'new', i can guarentee you, your local shopclerk knows nothing about it.
u know anyone that reads?
;D
So it doesn't matter then send out more emails and we can just close the sale? 😏
If its even only a few it would matter 🙂
Also, theres always 2 sides to a collab.
and terms
and 100s of pages of blabla
Yeah I get it, just seems like the community would like some more explanation
i dont know
I can't help you with that, this is not in my ballpark of decision making 😛
Now that I have you here ser @potent tulip
What are the odds I can print my Sushiswap Atlas 🍣 in the future?
Would have been cool if at checkout if a GameStop store they gave you a little promo card with your receipt with a QR code on it to the Illuvidex sale
Do you have any idea how much a collab like that would cost us?
Not a clue ha
Hmm ok so balancer sales are useless, thanks
sushi atlas wasnt on balancer?
They are in the same forgotten corner of the internet
that was a collab between sushiswap and illuvium?
i dont think so, balancer sale nfts will be usable? i dont think we ever made any claims on cosplay-nfts ?
but ill happily print your sushi atlas mate
imagine what its like from the otherside 🙂
"it’s unlike that that would occur but very possible"
Of course, anything is possible 👍
If we can double the sales and it stays the same % (14 goliants) that would bring down the likelihood to 2.8%.
I doubt there’s a bug in the %, but we’ll have a better idea at the end of sale
On a side note think Sweating Doka is holding a Dead Mans Hand.😂
Had a random art question for @potent tulip. This is my favorite illuvitar so far. I thought maybe the stage 3 tier 1 background might look better. But I noticed that orange does not seem to be possible for flash backgrounds stage 3. I was just curious if that was intentionally left out. Like it did not look good on enough of the illuvitars to have an orange stage 3 flash or something.
Just wanna rant sorry in advance: I am not supporting the extended sale and don’t like the reasoning behind it. The less discs sold the more the illuvitars will be in demand in the future. This is just a way to sell more because the sales were not as expected. Then theres another thing whats happening with the revdis from wave 0-1 and this sale? What’s happening with the revdis for market sales of items.
I agree with you
Also i dont think illuvitars were ever gonna be part of rev dis. Its a fundraiser for the team
Safety pool
safety pool was filled with 1.* m sales were more then that
Last time I checked there was like 3m in there
Council is working on an IIP to include everything until pool is filled
when is the pool filled?
At the moment that would be 15 million
But maybe after the fund raise, they can lower that number
TBA
what happens when money is used from it?
We pray they don’t run out of money
maybe sell calendar
I have one on my phone
I dont think i understand this anymore, the promise was revdis would be paid for everything in the illuvium universe, now i get the feeling were backing out of that primary promise
i see u dnt get the joke
You not gonna get revdis if they can’t finish the game before they run out of money. So just in case, we are waiting to get our revdis and keep it on the side as an emergency if the team would need it
Kieran said they don’t need it
Kieran opened 50+ discs yesterday and was frustrated because he mostly got dokas abd archies
I finally ordered my D1skplates... EXCITED
Holo squizz?
ofc 😉
Kieran gets frustrated about everything
lol
It’s a joke Kieran, don’t ban me
so 1211 ppl already ordered something in the store?
he did get all 3 t4s
I heard some store programs start at 1000 but not sure if that is the case here
i didnt even draw a t3
hopefully the printer doesnt run out of amunition^^
Nice!
Brand new printer, should be fine
Isnt Rogier doing those prints?
I winder if you have to pay import taxes for those things, for the bulldogs jersey i had to pay 27e import taxes
Ser
ser?
in the store it says 75$ per Diskplate i payed 87, i live in Austria
shipping was free so idk^^
no thats because ita heavy shipping is oaid to the shipper tax to the government via the shipper locally
well thats why i was wondering if rogier makes then hes in nl and so am i that would drop the tax on a plate 😉
If you order more that 300usd then you dont have to pay gst or tax thats actually interesting.
I think it’s included in the merch price
And shipping is payed extra
But that part I’m not certain about
i think theres no way around the gst but shipping is free with over 300$
Damn I ordered Friday and I already can’t remember
Anyhow you pay it in advance
And not when it arrives like the bulldogs rugged us
Gst is always. Transport fees are free at 300$+ though.
You can go through the process until you choose your banking details to get the specific GST costs 🙂
What am i misunderstanding here? it says ex gst/vat
Your order has to be $300 before GST
Update to follow on this mate, we're working towards an IIP shortly.
Re-enabling RevDis as soon as possible while ensuring we're not taking on risk is critical.
thx Nick i was in a saggy mood it happens sometimes 🙂
Yep, I won't speak out of turn as @royal anvil has been championing this IIP with the sub councils.
Which one would you print?
But to be clear, Team, Admins, Strategy Sub Council are all in alignment on it 🫡
how many do you wanna get?
just one
Gamestop lynx 🙂 love the accessories
Holo happy virtuous looks sweet though.
i would prob go with the holo happy virtuous one cause the bg fits the best with the illuvitar except for the Phyri but its not holo
I think it depends if you’re gonna dress any of them. I feel like if you’re gonna print, may as well be bonded up to your desire. No virgin scared cats for printing 😬
yes but not the ones you would want you can view them and see ehich are alphas
thats actually my avatar on beyond exactly because of that reason 🙂
now its my avatar here too 🙂
now i need a pink name, what do i need to do for that lol?
Go discord nitro ane boost the server. Or become a council member for purple 👀
i have chosen those 3 to make a nicely fitting series and ofc my best Rhamphyre
Oh man those 3 are nice. I love the hex background!
Hexalicious!
I dont have a ramphy
yeah pretty pricy, they hold their values good^^
are there benefits for server boosters?
a pink name? :]
and special emotes no?
haha that is tempting 🙂
ah right, yeah you can send emotes from other servers here (and they actually can move) and super emotes like the one above

Looking great!
thx 
Lot's of discussion and feedback from both Set 1 Wave 1 and this first Partnership Event.
I just want to make it crystal clear it's being poured over both within the team and within the sub councils.
allright did it work?
hot dang you are pink!
now i need to order that plate haha
Think there's some opportunity for learning and improvement from this last release, but I think the team is going to learn and continue to make headway... trailblazing is never easy, but the ilv team will pull it off. Keep up the good work
I can assure you of that, lot's of debate about the way forward in the short-term as well as what a Promotional Sale looks like in the future
We have brands equal to or bigger on the horizon so getting this right is critical.
This goes to the heart of what Beyond as a product is now, and what it will be once we onboard the masses as we launch the games.
I figured - you guys are smart, but you are traversing a frontier that is new... I'd say with "power-creep"/value, it'd be best in ilv's interest if promos are more bang for their buck than the waves.
We can continue to iterate and make Beyond an awesome experience
yeah i agree - i think it can be really great
Only the first 100 peoples on the leaderboard have reward but I think you should have some rewards for random numbers each time you give rewards. So even if you are not in the top 100 you can win 1 ILV or less. So even the beginner can have a chance to win something sometimes.
i watched the newest video from Scoriox and TSG and they were talking about lowering prices for future alphas disks especially and they were also talking about some sort of compensation for all alpha wave1 buyers and i quite liked that idea... is that something that we could expect?
did you guys talk about that or did that not come up?
There was a proposal recently posted in #1020759212172775464 about Illuvitar pricing, the conversation has come to a close and council is reworking the proposal with community feedback in mind. If you wanted to get a feel for the sentiment here is the conversarion: #1117391394655449178 message
uff thats a lot... but i will read through it when i have the time thx 👍
A new proposal will probably be out soon, if you want an overview on the proposal itself I have a video on my channel. But yeah it was a hot and heavy topic with lots of opinions and suggestions to sift through
"But that's not all! Stay tuned for an exciting announcement later today for those who are actively participating in the sale." will this still announced today?
By the way what happened to andrew the voice of Illuvium
pc broke but hes back
I have something for you! (sent you a message :])
He might very well, yes, and now he is calling his agent, "Wtf do I do, fold or go all in??"
Interesting new piece of incentive on the official website 👀
https://illuvium.io/gamestop#d1skplate
anyone remembering how much it cost to buy an alpha d1sk with silv2? trying to make up a spreadsheet to figure out how much i have spent in dollars
look at ILV price at the time you bought
oh shit thats huge
noiiiice 
will the complimentary nft get a slot in the album?
but which illuvitar? is it the same for everyone i guess?
do you have to open 5?
let's wait for more information from the announcements lol but this is the first leak! 😛
(indeed thanks Binet for finding it! <3)
because it says purchase 5 and receive... but do you have to open them?
the disks we already minted counting?
Yes
will there be like a checkmark to let u know u have done it?
Yeah I think they are updating the website still obviously didn’t even see this was added lol
hahah nice
guess we get the fire doka since he is on the picture... cant go wrong with that one for sure
my D1skplate collection will get one more buddy 
Alpha D1sk is
Mega: 0.125 ETH
Standard: 0.025 ETH
I think
we do need more GS fire Doka's in our life...
But i think the diskplate is shared by rich up there.
#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message
I think that's it all 6 of the illuvitars on one page
SILV2 = ILV price
and ILV amount depends on how much it is compared to ETH
So how much SILV2 you need depends how much ILV is to ETH
oh yeah didnt see that.... thats also cool
math🤕
i think it was around 112 dollars worth of silv2
112 dollars of silv 2 = 194 dollars of eth
at the time
Currently at the moment:
1 Alph Mega = 4.81 SILV2 = 208.39 USD
1 ALpha Standard = 0.962335 SILV2 = 41.68 USD
there you go, but these all can change tomorrow
now that could actually boost the sale again and if not at least gives the ppl who bought already some benefit 😁
or in an hour
Nice thanx
1 1
perfect
but fuck me i just ordered my D1skplates... now i need to pay shipping again for that one 
you are ready to be a rocket scientist
how did you order D1skplates
so when can I get my stuff I earned from buying all those D1sks in wave 1
I bought a couple and met some goals
i bought them in the store
lol yes
shit
okay let me check it out
or maybe they can wait with my order and shipp them all together? idk if thats possible somehow^^
I'm hoping thats what happens with mine now
lol
I'm 4 deep
Don't I get a free D1skplate?
well you shouldve received an email
I see it when I logged in to illuvium.io
and on the illuvidex?
yeah
just tell Rogier he should wait with our orders until the GS-D1splates are ready 
Rogier
My email is connected to the Illuvidex and I have not received my promo codes. Been checking email, including spam, daily.
promo codes for beta access?
No, for the Merch store from the Wave 1 sale.
ok can you contact support with the link in the #❓❓〕support channel. they will look into it.
Will do, Thanks!
Does someone have a fair and good explanation to why it’s good introduce a way to buy you a guaranteed Holo? That just blows the whole concept of rarities and disk openings? Like, why? 
It looks like that nft/diskplate is not an illuvitar, so nothing that would compete with existing illuvitars
Its probably more of a additional collectors item
It says in the title “Receive an exclusive GameStop illuvitar NFT”. So I can only assume it’s from the actual illuvitar disk sale they’re currently doing. If not it’s very poorly marketed

