#๐ฎใilluvium-beyond
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well if you are holding 1/300 then fair play
well Celund and Alexa both have 6 rhams... so thats gg already xD
Rhams are overvalued or other rare ones are under valued if you look at it from a rarity perspective. This one sold for almost 4eth. Its alpha but still..
I think this tool will help to get the market more mature ๐
what no? it got sold for 3eth
estimated value is almost 4 eth
Still. In terms of rarity some illuvitars get sold for way less then that and are 10 times harder to get lol.
yeah but as i said earlier you cant solely rely on the rarity number you also need to consider total supply of the illuvitars...
cause otherwise that holo paranoid kukka with the t5 bg should be worth more than that goofy rham which doesnt make that much sense imo
once the wave ends, we will get some clarity
Is it t5 stage 3 holo paranoid kukka?
Hmm yeah. Still the best Kukka so why shouldnt the value be has high as that goofy rham?
i have one just like yours ๐ ... only with the blue colored BG
The best Rham got sold for 50k and thats probably cheap ๐
And that was exactly my point .. if it's the best in existence for kukka ... or idk whatever else illuvitar (best archie, best teeantee etc) why sholudn't it worth more
i guess we need to raise the price of our kukkas then xD
But then again there alot of kukka with a tier 5 background stage 3 so that decreases the value i think.
But if you have the best one it should be worth something
haha yeah something but not as much as the rham i think since it also is an alpha
yep .. we're talking about holo ones AND the most powerfull in existence .. i think this should mean something and should be taken into account
what's yours listed for? 0.9?
Only 2 holo kukka's with that background
That could be a steal lol
yeah almost 1eth but i dont really wanna sell it for now until we know what its worth thats why i listed it so high
but ppl arent even buying the non paranoid ones for 0.07eth
tell me about it ... i was at some point ready to give it up for about 0.5 ...but now i don't really want to sell it
happy i didn't
so they should be an even bigger steal
i guess we;ll just have to wait.. when every 10-50 points WILL matter for the leaderboard people will want to squeeze points from every possible illuvitar (i think refferring more to top 50 or top 10) .. so a 1894 powered kukka with a T5 BG will surely have a good price (i do hope so) ๐
there s 3 actually
yeah and i saw mine for 0.21eth listed and couldnt resist cause of the purple coins also ๐
A normal one is not nearly as rare as those holo ones
Nah i mean the t5 s3 background
so we control 66% of the supply of those @still herald xD
You guys can start a kfc
yeah cause not holo and not rare expression
lol i couldnt get the goliant....
so i had to buy the rham xD
oh yeah
but you wanted to buy disks i thought? just wanted to help....
nice new feature ... i also just raised the price of this beast .... most powerful in existence also
I'm about to buy 635 standards
pull that holo rhamphyre and sell it to you
nah you need more than that^^
if you get 2 holo rhamph one should be mine ๐
High chance its gonna be the best after the wave ends
or mine
Make offer on goliant lol
probably tomorrow its 2 am
maaan .. i reeeaallly wish you are right! ๐
how many disks do you have
I hope the same for my slashin. If its still the rarest after the sales end we got some treasures ๐ฅ
haven't opened any in a few days now :D... in total so far i've opened about 400
@hazy juniper @coral moth and everyone working hard for illuvialmaster congratz guys! .. Nice new features and wallet integration!
was there chat about wave 2 packs being dropped for wave 1 completion?
idk .. haven t heard anything about it
could have sworn i saw something
@topaz zodiac @onyx briar too of course
I think kieran tweeted something about that
@steady marsh too
And Martini but I don't think he's here
Oh wait
@tender hornet
i need rewards to go live to reinvest otherwise my disk purchases are going limp
Its says its only worth $700. I can buy it from you for that amount ๐
Sorry no can do. This is one of those occasions where it is way off ๐
not even for 7000 i guess xD
Not even 70k to be honest. I'm just not really looking to sell much of anything right now.
haha feel you^^
Yep of course.. sorry for all of those i didn't mention but it's implied it was for the entire team ๐
Very nice pull!! congratz
I can understand that. 70k might even be a fair price
I know just giving an assist ๐
Hahaha its based on sales history. If things with this background haven't been sold much it has no data to utilise unfortunately
We have it in an app. The Illuvialmaster team worked very hard to make it accessible.
Aaand another rham is gone ๐
never played a collectors game b4. when wave 2 comes out will they be less power than wave 1? wondering how it works
No it has nothing to do with power. Wave 1 closes in 50 days en then you cant buy the disks (wich contains the illuvitars) from wave 1 anymore.
There will be new cards in wave 2
thanks
What's the odds for such a pull?
1 in 10,500,000
Are you for real?
Illuvialmasters has added the odds in there collection app
So more rare then a holo blazing rhamphyre, no way?
Yep ๐
Where can I find that?
Same goes for other t5 stage3 background illuvitars
No way bro
My slashin is 1 in 4.100.000
Exact chance
No way these token backgrounds are more rare then a holo blazing rhamphyre.
I highlighted it
Yes they can be
It might be odd wise. But the facts are saying something diferent.
It depends on the illuvitar. A normal kukka with that background isn't that rare.
With under 250k illuvitars a lot of these in theory shouldnt even exist, but they do, that doesnt make the odds wrong, just that some people got extremely lucky.
The rham that sold for 50k is 1 in 50.000.000
where do you see the estimaded valuation?
Are you for real?
It tells me it's a 1 out of 800K
oh wait a second
It's truly a 1 out of 59 mio
WHAT
holy shiat
Okey I checked the wrong numbers haha
Yep that one is unbelievable rare. 1 out of 59m.
My bad haha
I told people from the start that they where sleeping on backgrounds. Now we have data that backs it up.
Iยดm glad i didn't sell my slashin for 3k lol. Had it listed for that a few weeks ago.
Where can we check that info?
Really great tool, huge congratz to Illuvialmaster team!
You click on the Illuvitar from your wallet. And then it shows you "exact chance" 1 out of x
thanks
Game changing tool for sure
Wave 2
Stoic Hydrolynx & Rhamphy
Both look really nice
Wave 2 is in q3 according to the roadmap so its not directly after the first wave?
True thats weird... wave 2 should be in june... maybe they tweek in the partnership disks for a month or so and then go on with wave 2?
Didnt kieren also state this in his post... after wave one there will be partnership illuvitars and only then wave 2 or somehow like that?
So you get a partnership pack if you got a full collection? Don't understand the tweet fully lol.
Don't think so
You just have to buy them?
I believe so
Is there something special in those partnership packs?
๐
If you thought wave 1 illuvitars were rare, those partnership disks will be more limited
What do you guys think, is that a buy for 1.57eth? ๐
God damn can we pls remove that calculater again ๐
Depends. What is it?
Cant post otherwise someone snipes it ๐
gotta be careful with that tool guys, I doubt rarity will always translate to price in proportion...
The problem have with that one, i really dont like the illuvitar-background combination just by the looks of it...
Ill post it anyway since i prob wont buy it...
I'm offering my hawk eyes to snipe some good deals in exchange for some eth lol
Think it is the sec best background on any laser goliant only the t5 one is better
But it looks so bad imo 
So in theory it should be a collectors piece but if the collectors dont like it... what is it then? ๐
then it's just a piece...
Still over 2600 power
But yeah clashing colors
I think the smirking one with the tier 4 backgrounds is a better deal lol
But not on sale
I agree that it doesn't really match lol
something very weird is happening with the leaderboard, lol
it removed cards from my albums and bumped me up to diamond at the same time
and the more cards I place back to the album the more points I lose
meanwhile rank 1 has 2 mill points wtf
wtf?.. yeah i just saw that now
at this rate 1mil will be minimum for top 50 i think
and now some of the cards that were sleeved already are not seen
looks like this is the anti-fix
Wave 2 also!
noice squizz buddy confirmed ๐
Please please please tell me Wave 2 brings one of the Fennec Fox Line
What is the partnership pack
oh yeah.. snipers everywhere
it is the fact that it has to look good and rarity makes it worth even more
but you can also mess with snipers mind, play the deception game
Oh my god look at that Kuka
that Chicken burning hot 1 in 10 gazillion
all unique shapes
snipe that
yummy
I just burn it in my tummy
bond it with some sauce
or just leave it raw
and eat it
don't tell me I have to put this in the Off-Topic section
but the real question is which one will be the new rhamphyre... so the t5 s3... can you make that cute face again and ask Dan about that? 
I want all of this
Nice one
and get it printed on a metal plate hang it up
Same
These 2 looks golden
but these are all illuvials not what it looks like as illuvitars?
yep, we already have goliant as illuvitar ๐
oh right
that looks nicer
the Goliant we have looks a little blah
I'll go captch a Goliant
take that back 
okay I take it back
it is pretty sick
๐ ๐
Gooooood
I said I didn't like Geyser before. but now I have Geyser as my profile
LOL
the growling one looks sick, sadly i dont have one 
It's already been leaked if that helps?
uff need to search it then ๐ซก ๐
I think the album fixes have broken something. Is someone on to this?
polar bear is t4 right?
oh and its just stage 2 i think...
so its ophisto i guess
cant find anything else....
@coral moth btw penguin line is t5 on illvialmaster in the illuvials section, guess that needs a change....
Just curious with so many illuvitars out there is this part of the project not going to be worth so much because there are so many of these out there. most NFT projects only have about 10,000
There is like 24 x the amount of NFT compared to other projects
240,000 NFT in one project so far and rising
Most will be cheap, that is a good thing, they need to be accessible to millions of people.
okay
If it's supposed to become a 'real' game, then 10k wouldn't cut it either.
so in the end I think there should be around 550,000 to 600,000 Illuvitars minted
for wave 1
Hopefully.
is minting slowing down?
any stats on that?
Top 100 needs 700,000 points
that is definitely out of reach for most people
if i buy a land do i get beta access
this illuvitar game is for people who are willing to spend over 4 ETH, if you want to be relatively competitive
if you want to be in Top 100
at least 2 ETH if you hope to be in Top 100
i think a lot of ppl will just collect them and dont even care about leaderboard....
okay
there should be multiple tiers
that are achievable
go look at HRO DC cards
I collect an entire common set I get a nice drop badge
I get a set completed I get something
and also when we get the real tcg everyone who wants to play it will also need some illuvitars to build a solid deck....
but they already said we will get other rewards for completing certain collections
anyways.. we need something for everyone to get drops to keep them interested
oh okay that's good
After you verify wallet here #๐ซใverify-asset yes you have acccess to #1075137668821823628
uiii Rich is back... disk opening stream when? 
Gotta take daughter to school first
alright ๐
Still no leaderboard news ? 
The news is that is appears more broken ๐
They just sent me an email stating everything was fixed lol
"I have some great news! An update for Illuvium Beyond has been released, which resolves the issue you were experiencing with sleeving certain Illuvitars."
Yep got it too
Maybe they have resolved that but i'm pretty sure they have exposed more issues. Look at number 2, says his set 1 collection has 466,257 power
. Is that even possible. I presume there's some issue at play.
Not unless you can get 9325 points per sleeve...
Exactly. Something is definitely broken.
For me, not only it did not resolve the sleeving issue, I now have more of the same, even with illuvitars that were fine before the fix
Well atleast they can delay rewards more now lol
My points are also inflated, and looks like its the same for half the people on the leaderboard
I was able to slot about half of my Illuvitars that had the sleeving issue, but I have several that still have the same issue as before.
It certainly is not looking pretty at this point, let s hope it is a quick fix but I keep my expectations in check
c'mon cheer up! You're paying to be a beta tester lol
136,000 Disks purchased FTW! lol
Well, they were testing it for a day and if they deployed it it must have worked on the devnet, so hopefully it is just one issue now that have to find
If my math is accurate, the most you can theoretically have on the Set 1 collection (with holo, rare expressions, full T5S3 accessories, T5S3 background on everything) is 279k points, and I don't see any bonuses or milestones on that album (and it's not possible to complete yet, so no bonus there either)
I will take your word for it as I don't want to verify those numbers ๐ . With only 50 illuvitars currently available in set 1, they are close to 10k per illuvitar. Safe to say that is impossible
.
Just have to wait and see what what they come out with next.
Well, the 25x T0s are way lower on the max power, but I did account for that
still the 4 players above 279k must have some bug on their albums (or on the leaderboard itself)
Haha i Put in a Slot and lost around 20k
But that was my right Points, but i still cant Set in my singe
Strange that we've got radio silence. You would expect some kind of acknowledgement from the team at this point.
I have been down with leaderboard X2. I have brought over 1000 disks. Wen Fix.
In dont think so
So unfair for the rewards because U spend your Money to get the top x and then IT al goes for weeks und u need to spend more and more but u dont know If U get smth
My assumption would be theyโre trying to get a fix for the fix in by EOD and are just heads down attempting to do so.
Sorry guys, I just woke up to see this, chasing up with team... is it only set one collection/most powerful collection values that are incorrect (as far as you can tell) or are overall points also incorrect?
My set 1 points seem to be correct now, but my points are still inflated. There is some strange inverse effect going on, some of my illuvials have been unsleeved and my points went through the roof at the same time. Then as I was putting them back into the album, my points were going down.
Yea same issue here..
Some I can't put back in, and it looks like the surplus points I still have would disappear if I could put those back.
I got no issues with extra points but i still can't place some Illuvials into some sleeves. Like Rhamphyre into Inferno or Phantom.
I can't sleeve my Geyyser into Mystic or my Slashin into Vanguard.
2 weeks now, still no fix. Itโs frustrating.
It is. How these things go sometimes unfortunately. Just need to be patient. I'm sure they will get there before too long.
What we tested was working, some issues are hard to replicate on our end, but the team will investigate and once they have a solution or known issue Iโll see about getting details of how long a fix may take
If you guys can please report the bug so we can easily track how many are experiencing these issues and we can easily inform you when itโs fixed
?beyond-support
To report any issues with Illuvium: Beyond, please contact us at http://link.illuvium.io/illuvitars.
this is very useful, main dev for this feature will be online in an hour or two and if we can have lots of detail for him to look in to it should help to expedite a solution
@wide swan are you able to repeat these issues? be handy if we have some CC's who can see the issue too
Any update on the leaderboard issues? Iโm still not showing up
It appears all the Illuvium devs and developers wallets are working why are others not?
I am patient but I have watch operational wallets go into the millions from a leaderboard from 21. Simply put I have lost the enthusiasm for this game now.
It is a temporary problem though and it's not like those people are receiving rewards illegitimately from being there.
Why were all wallets not taken down whilst so many problems?
Anyways team members can't get rewards if i remember correctly
But they can easily give away rares amongst themselves which most here can not do. Not a good look in the wider community. With much respect thatโs what I see.
Lets wait for them to comeup with fixes and explanations then we can discuss. Currently, its all speculation and FUD so lets wait for them...
Not FUD when they are openly doing it in my view.
What do you mean theyโre giving away rare illuvitars?
I am not going to clog up this thread.
It's a small population of users that are impacted, and none of our wallets are in that group. Therefore it's difficult for us to test on UAT with 100% certainty.
With much respect Nick easy to have multiple wallets and say that.
Rest assured, this is a high priority.
The last thing we want is to have Production in a broken state. However we must tread carefully, rushing fixes and breaking from our process only introduces further risk.
Looking forward to this happening. Agreed much pressure for the team but I am voicing what I am seeing. Also I hope that investors concerns can be addressed in due course.
There absolutely should be, and is pressure on us to solve these issues. None of us wanted to wake up the the community still experiencing issues with Album and Leaderboard.
Update to follow
I would like to know the stats on how many down to how many operational please.
What exactly is the issue you are saying that the team is doing?
No snapshot date has been announced for rewards for this reason we need leaderboards and albums working correctly for everyone to be fair
I have questions above Rich.
They seem to be implying that you "the team" are printing yourselves a bunch of rare illuvitars and distributing them amongst yourselves. Hopefully they elaborate as it is a serious accusation to make if that is indeed what they are implying.
"But they can easily give away rares amongst themselves which most here can not do. Not a good look in the wider community. With much respect thatโs what I see."
I am suggesting not they. I am dealing with a sentiment point.
But thank you there are points you touch on.
So what exactly are you saying, can you clarify please.
getting messy in here
How many wallets are down? Why are all wallets not taken offline whilst the bugs are being fixed? Just as a starting point.
No. These are genuine questions coming from a good place.
I wasn't speaking to you
Hey Haitch, thank you for your concerns, the team will work on resolving the issue and not taking down the leaderboard as this would not be a good use of time, especially when there's no rewards to be had currently
Ahh ok.
yeah I mean people would stop buying disks lol
Unlikely. We all know it will get fixed. Just a matter of time.
Wasn't being serious. I'll add (sarcasm) next time
Sure
(sarcasm)
Sure
Could someone on the team who's involved in this shadowy trading of rare illuvitars dm me please, I must have missed the memo. Or just send me a holo Ramphyre directly if it's quicker? Thanks!
My wallet still open for some gifts ๐๐
Not a single Squizz, I blame @wide swan
You'll have to consult with the shadow team at 1-800-GOTUR-T5HOLOS
Johnny is the Squidman
hes got a shit load
@sharp sigil is the Squizz OG, at least in my books
Im so sick of kuk I dont think id bother catching it in overworld at this point
i guess a nice dark holo would entice me lol
Agreed, just once I'd love to see a Squizz, Geyyser or Goliant
omg spacelover has 2mil now๐
Something tells me there's some other fishy stuff with the leaderboard... 400k points doesn't seem possible for set 1.
There's what 50? Average say 4k points per illuv to be generous... that's 200k points. So anything over 250k or even 175k is likely an error. Unless my math is off...
possibly an error. my set 1 was all messed up when they said the new patch would fix shit
you just gotta time it right I usualyy wait untill johnny has bought his disk's and euro and america have randomise'd further then one 10 mega's and out pop's a ramphy'r .....lol .....joke only ....but i got three ......so ...not sure if i spent to much or just lucky ....still chasing a blazing
I wonder what the new Kuk of set 2 will be ๐ญ
some people are into bondage
but your right the most power full iluvitar around is 7675 fully bonded if there were 25 in their set 1 collectiont that would only be 191,425 point ...just stating facts
I do take exception at anthing targeting the team though ...they are beyond approach ....no fishy stuff going on here for sure maybe genuine dev error but nothin sus for sure
Are you taking into consideration Collection Milestones & Points for completing collections?
Yah, I donโt mean fishy as is susโฆ just something not right with 400k points for set one.
Ooo if you wanna trade one of ur rhamphs hmuโฆ I still need one
nope i only need one more ๐
fubarph get his calculator out
its a bit confusing though Ive been wondering since day 1 how seatin did it so maybe a blog expanding on the points scoring using maybe just set 1 wave 1 as an example would help
it only 25 iluvitars after all.....lol
no need for calculators guys, it is 100% a bug, many of us were saying it since the update
my own points were inflated from 800k to above 1 mill and they were going down as I put cards back in the album that were unsleeved by the update
number 1 and 2 has just not put their illuvitars back yet
there are many others on the leaderboard still with inflated points
It seems that the people they assign to fix this issue are not doing a good job. They should try using chatgpt to fix the issue lol.
has anyone opened up 5000 packs yet? Maybe Seatin?
Yes
5000 packs gets the obelisk suit? what does the suit do besides look sweet?
I don't think it does anything else
so just a flex
it just becomes the holy grail of suit skins and will worth a few eth down the line
its just flex for someone but could be a good investment if someone sells it later
There is significant complexity here, we had no way of testing the issues on UAT as the original issues were specific to a small number of users.
Yes, additional issues have appeared since last night's push and we're working to resolve.
A massive thank you to those that raised the issues they were facing via Zendesk as this has really helped to define exactly what the issues are.
After today's efforts we have a solve for the issues. There will be a period of testing/peer-code review but we'll look to push a fix once we're confident.
did I miss a push ?
No
thanks thought I'd lost my mind
It was fun for few hours to see my points reaching 2mil haha. Just resleeved all missing illuvitars and now it reflects accurate points for me. It looks like minor issue in initial calculation of points for each collection. I believe they can able to fix it very quickly (maybe in 2 days) ๐
moon pay verification sucks cant get it to work no matter what I try
Truly, mine took about 30 minutes? Have you tried a valid passport? from memory that's what I used
cant seem to get past the popup blocker cant find it
easier on phone than PC
Mind sharing what browser? strange. Will investigate, as I say we haven't experienced issues but we should look further
Version 112.0.5615.121 (Official Build) (64-bit) but the problem was on the build before i just noticed a chrome update was due not sure if that was the issue
im still finishing the phone verification now
all good now verified via phone and purchase complete mega disk's inbound "Soon"
hi.. is there an unsleeve all button? ๐ค
the way that others have done / tried this with varying results is to unlink your wallet address and re-link it.
Sometimes this works and it successfully unsleeves everything. other times your account will be bugged and you won't have any points like what happened to Seatin ๐
ok thanks.. but maybe i wait for the button..
Wise choice ๐
Potentially silly question - does setting something in your Beyond album lock it from being able to list or anything?
It does not lock the Illuvitar, but when you sell your Illuvitar, it will be unsleeved from your album. So if you sell it, you lose your points ๐
Thanks Garf!
are rewards going live this week?
Nothing announced
jeez, thats 3 weeks
its frustrating because now there are anticipated rewards everything has inflated in price with no way to accumulate cheaply. I feel like we should scrap the whole thing and just collect for fun or start distributions
Pretty sure there would be some unhappy people if the whole thing was scrapped now.๐
What aboutโฆ retroactive rewards? Once issues are fixed it should be possible to see snapshot from when it was supposed to go live right?
the whole reason for the delay is that people were missing from the leaderboard due to bugs, so you can't get an accurate snapshot from an earlier time
Yah prob not so simpleโฆ I was thinking a system could calculate the points of players at that time, with the illuvitars they had then, and recreate an accurate snapshot. But not so easy.
trust me I would welcome it since I'm on it from the first week, but I'd be happy if it would be fixed somehow
Yeah. Hate it too. Tried a few times without luck
You could figure it out, but it would also be very hard to be 100% confident there were no bugs with the algo to do that. So probably not the best idea.
it would be next to impossible as some people would say they were waiting with bonding until it was fixed, so these weeks are just dogshiiit I'm afraid
snapshots don't make any sense, there's probably a bunch of us waiting for rewards to start to bond stuff.
not sure why it's taking so long. afaik there should be 0 complex blockchain stuff to do since all data comes from IMX via simple api's
Does anyone else have illuvitars missing all of a sudden? just had a 10k points drop too
most likely some of your unsleeved illuvitars now get the bug and can't be put back in, that is the case with me, at least
woof
Doesnโt work in my region (New York is strict on crypto)
Iโm in EU and says it should work. They wonโt validate my ID however
That sucks!
they should just add the delayed rewards to the first couple of snapshots
How come?
to make up for the delay
Prob with that is the rewards would be differentโฆ some would get more than what they would have gotten and others would get less than what they would have gotten due to leaderboard shifting.
It's a tough one. Someone is going to be unhappy no matter which road they take.
It was know early that rewards would have to wait for the fixes for the albums/leaderbord.
And i dont think that there is anything to really complain about, this is just a bonus, its not like its staking
I agree.
the duration of receiving leaderb rewards should be the same for wave 2 as it was for wave 1, and so onโฆ
maybe the value of ILV goes up 150% during wave 2. should the amount of ILV rewards then also decrease by 150% to make sure you get the same dollar value?
Equally as valid
Don't like it though ๐
I think both aren't really valid. But I think the second would make more sense and will probably happen
Uh oh
I hope thats the case and no keep rewards the same and in ILV not USD
they have been cutting expenses everywhere. when ILV reaches 1000$ per token, would it make sense to reward someone 12000 per week just because he spent a bunch before? I'm not sure. But I guess revdis returns could keep the value consistent at that level by then so probably people won't bat an eye about 12K a week anymore.
in the end, all the rewards will go to the whales that bought wave 1 as well as wave 2 regardless.
If they kept in ILV and ILV gets that high in theory all Illuvitars should go up in value too and the trading in the illuvidex will increase rev dis
I agree, I thinks it's all relative.
Rising tides and all that.
It would also justify keeping disks at the same ETH price even if ETH goes 3-5x from here
They prices were set to a lower price to allow more people to participate, but if ETH does a 5x those prices are back up 5x in dollar value
Like you were saying itโs all relative. You start changing one thing and then youโll need to change more
I would kinda like Beyond prices to be converted to a value in fuel at some point.
That is true. It's just how do you keep the disks accessible to potentially millions of users if ETH does a 5 - 10x? They would be very expensive $ wise.
I like this idea
If the disk prices get cut 1/5 the price maybe you weight first way illuvitars in the collections 5x more
It would be complicated haha. But if you start lowering the price that brings down the value of previous waves. Right?
Or I guess it could increase the value too. If you have more participants in future waves and the previous waves are more scarce
Iโm typing as I think ๐
this only works if the value of ILV is tied to the value of Eth. when Eth pumps, it's not necessary for ILV to pump along.
I think the idea was to combine an Illuvitar and an Illuvial from OW in order to be used in a yet-to-be-created TCG-type game. That would draw players into the ecosystem as a whole. Seems it would also retain value of Illuvitars while also creating additional value for Illuvials.
Illuvitars and Illuvials will be two entirely different things as well. Illuvials will be used to play the game. You can collect all the Illuvials and thereby have the deck with the most utility and freedom of choice, but that remains in-game.
Illuvitars can't be used in-game aside from being a PFP and as Daddy says, as potential linked assets for the potential TCG. While Illuvials can be used inside the game, Illuvitars will be utilised outside of it and give you specific utility in the form of the album. Completing collections rewards you with aesthetics for battleboards, skins etc. but they may also allow you to get early access to future beta's.
So: Illuvitars will have a more meta-usecase while Illuvials will probably more so be used in-game.
Morning,
The issues impacting Leaderboard & Album have been identified and resolved. Neil worked on this from 8am - 1:30 am with input from Itamar and Infra late last night.
We're targeting UAT EOD today, approximately 4:00 PM AEST (currently 4:00 AM AEST).
Any questions, don't hesitate.
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It can't be understated how valuable bug reports from the wider DAO are. Our QA Team works extremely hard, but it's still a small team spread across 17 or so Projects.
How much costs an unbonded album rank 100 ?
Depends on what illuvitars it holds i guess
is it even possbible to get to 100 without bonding?
yep i can confirm... i had about 525-550k with only 2 low tier bonded illuvitars
Yes, I havenโt bonded except for 2 or 3
yeah but your collection is just absolutely crazy 
but once rewards start the floor will prob go to 700k or so min....
if not even more ... hope not as i wouldn't want to be forced to bond everything
so it will prob not take long until unboded collections will not be able to compete anymore
Do you not think people have been bonding and climbing in anticipation of the rewards and that once the rewards kick in, nothing much will change?
If people think a boom is coming on the launch of the rewards, why wait for the inflated prices to start trying to buy anything to climb.
yeah most of that should prob already be over but theres still some ppl with album problems like seatin or sleeving problems so that should raise the floor already and then once ppl see that they get kicked off the leaderboard or get lower and drop one stage then some will surely try to keep up and do some finetuning (bonding)... thats at least how i could imagine it
I think it's somewhere in between.. i think most people bonded a part/a few kind of preparing for the fix... others bought some gaps but haven't gotten all-in in anticipating the rewards/fix
But it's still gonna be a frenzy and for sure the floor will go up
what do you mean with wrong way?
Yaa i was stupid
wrong combo of accessories and illuvitars?
yeah i feel like quite some ppl did that
thats why a feature to overwrite accessories would be good
That would be great
I'm trying to stay between positions 30-50 with the least amount of bonding I can get away with. Already bought everything but will only bond more if needed.
i think a lot of people will do the same
all heil king @ebon light
yep, only pull the trigger when you need to ๐ง
there is not a lot of room for a lot of people though, so it can be funny in the end ๐
i feel like kukkas dont get enough love... maybe i take one as pfp since almost nobody has one its quite unique xD
Iโve bonded most of mine as well and Iโm in the top 50. Do have one sleeping issue though
ofc do you have sleeping issues since you need to watch the illuvitar and accessories market 24/7 
Yup lol
Almost twins ๐ซก
I don't think the update has rolled out just yet.
is it just me or does everyone get crazy amounts of s3 lynxes when opening megas?
S1 for me ๐ญ
ok that means my sample was prob just not big enough^^
but i got so much more t2 s3 compared to t1 s3 and i feel like that could be the case if youre opening megas... thats prob also the reason why axodon is more expensive?
or do you think its just because ppl like to collect the axolotl line more compared to the lynxes?
This guy. So, so many.
but they are so so cute 
True, but you really dont want to see one when your'e pulling megas.
just look at him how happy he is around his yellow illuvium coins 
๐ Some exceptions can be made
I love the happy lynx ngl.
Big ups @ebon light
Noice standard
you think at any point 24 hours a day someone somewhere is opening a disk
If it's not you, it's Kieran
im sure there are sometimes a few minutes a daywhere no one is opening a disk.... but yeah ppl are going nuts on them^^
on avarage theres 1.9 disks opened every minute but if you consider a huge part was at the beginning its prob more around 0.5-1 disk per minute atm?
ok i dont like the kukka pfp makes me also paranoid the longer it looks at me, need to change again....
What about a sweet holo smirking goliant
lol do you already need more disks? ๐
but you got some solid stuff tho... holo slashin was in the standards right?
i mean honestly i would like to have that goliant but i think my current liquid funds are not enough for it xD
- i already have a holo goliant, so i should be fine ๐
How much would you be looking for when the time comes?
haha Alexa already preparing eth 
Oh by the way any news on the ILV distribution for top 100
I've been busy with HRO DC stuff haven't been looking at this project
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We're targeting UAT EOD today, approximately 4:00 PM AEST (currently 4:00 AM AEST).
What is AEST LOL
Australian Eastern Standard Time (AEST) is 14 hours ahead of Eastern Standard Time (EST).
got it
so it is 2am Thursday EST but does that mean they will start snap shot at that time?
No, it will be announced and communicated clearly
We also want to ensure the push solves the outstanding issues
What is better BG higher Stage or Higher Tier
What comes first in the heirarchy Tier or stage
Tier
depends. Tier 3 Stage 3 is better than Tier 4 stage 1 imo
okay
actually The pattern in Tier 3 Stage 1 looks better graffiti look
interesting.. I get what you mean
Tier 3 Stage 1 vs Tier 1 Stage 3
Really this is the only HOlo Rhamphyre out there and it is a blazing .. How much is that worth?
A lot..
and it is Alpha
the only Alpha HoLO Blazing
More than this non-alpha version maybe but background is better
maybe the same price?
Power 3620 vs 3233
Put a clown nose on them
jesus did not see that 25 eth sale... the world is insane... bullish on Illuvium...
Yeah well. it was sold 1 week ago
There are a lot of rich people out there
$50,000 is a flight back home to another vacation home for them no big deal
1% of the world is a lot of people
So we are on track for 270,000 D1sk to be sold
stretch is 300,000 D1sk
Half a million Illuvitars
How to invet people to this discord
That could be more once promo d1sks go on sale
Finaly got my moon pay verification done then my bank declined the payment cuz i spent to much irl โฆ.. oh well might have to spend my crypto againโฆโฆgrrrrrr
dont bond its rare
This one is not as rare as the other one. Overpriced i think.
1 in 800.000. The other one is 1 in 60 mil or something like that
Lol was lookong wrong this one is 1 in 1.6 mil
Still not as rare as other cards but pretty rare
Would be nice if we could sort things on illuvium beyond by rarity to see what the rarest cards in exictince are ๐ค
Think your forgetting to take alpha/non alpha into the equasion when youre trying to evaluate stuff... since they cost 5x and are around 3x as rare atm i would say they should also be valued around 3-5x higher than non alphas...
Thats why i think that alpha is worth more than the non alpha rham...#๐ฎใilluvium-beyond message
But in terms of the blazing one youre right i think, it is overpriced but i think they should have around the same value since the alpha status makes up for the bg
Maybe one should be worth a bit more than the other but who knows which one...
I would rather have that other one. But thats me lol. I think for cards that are so scarce it doesn't really matter if alpha or not.
Is there a decision made on the implementation of a visual effect for alphas? Is it happening?
Team is working on some ideas and will let us know when they are done from what i know
Great thanks! But it will happen at some point, right? I'm holding on to my alphas just because of this otherwise I'd put them on the market
I think worst case is that we only get an alpha stamp or something like that on the portrait but i think they are working on some visual effects... but yeah something should come in the future... but who knows when ๐
My problem with a moving visual effect is that it prob cant be implemented on things like imx/tokentrove or MM/opensea... so i would prefer something static so that you can see it on all platforms... maybe they can do something thats static in general but moves on the illuvidex, that would honestly be the best imo
I agree that alpha's are rarer. But if we push that holo blazing around 3 x as rare its still nowhere near the chance of getting the other one. 1.6m x 3 = 4.8m
If that's the case what you propose sounds like a good solution. Hopefully it gets implemented at some point, I feel like alphas will be a bit more valuable then
But other illuvitars are also not just priced purely by rarity... they normally have a floor and if the bg is say 10x as rare its normally not 10x as expensive rather maybe 3x or so... so yeah bg rarity influences the price but not 1:1 normally
I hope so too ๐
Depents on what backgrounds. Starting from background tier 3 stage 3 things can get pretty rare if you look at the numbers.
Yeah but still if its 100x as rare it surely will not sell for 100x of floor price
Nah not 100 times. That would be to much offcourse.
Maybe only the tier 5 stage 3
If you look at sales
there are still problems with the albums and setting illuvitars. Is there an estimate when this will be fixed?
Supposed to be rolling out the fixes today.
No not really bro. The Alpha one is 1 out of 1,6 mio the none alpha with it's background is 1 out of 59mio ๐
First of all, always do your research before you stating something.
Oh okay sure. Chill there sometimes people missed information.
It is not that I didnโt do research. Maybe it was flawed
Careful with the accusations.
Very sensitive soul there
Funny guy
Nah bro, it's just such a big difference between 1,6 mio and 59 mio that it's simply not accurate saying that. That's all.
Sure I missed that alpha part yes
Well I do not think so that IlluvialMaster has a flawed calculator.
I agree with that part
Wasn't meant to offend you bro.
Dude. I missed that part. LOL
I just donโt agree with this part. Thatโs all no problem
But for sure the "alpha" status of the Holo Blazing one gives it more value in terms of it's unrare background. But it doesn't get even close to the rarity (even with it's alpha stamp) of the blazing one with the drone background stage2
That's alright, I didn't meant to offend you with that. It was purely meant on this one situation - I didn't meant to claim that you do not do your research at all in general 
Sure!
Oh no problem. I just want to clarify that part thatโs all.
I was wrong for sure.
No problem alls good
So how would you value them? If you had to find a price for them?
Alpha is worth 1 ETH more
Nobody is perfect, neither I'm or anyone else. We're all humans - same goes for the team were as considering there work hours it's absolutely insane โค๏ธ
They rocking it - considering building 3x games at the same time in such a short time getting so far already ... deserves way more credit!
So the one on the left is alpha and the right is non alpha @half jay ?
Well, nobody knows what its accurate valuation will be in the future - lower, higher, or exact price? Nobody can say that.
But one thing is for sure: the probability of a rarer card in wave 1 is unrealistic. Considering it was the first wave and counted to the most occasional card in the whole game (in my personal opinion), it could get up to a valuation like the most expensive punk ever sold (8,9mio), or it simply could stay around 100k - all depends as well on how much reach Illuvium can get!
#NoFinancialAdvise
I did not mean what it could be worth in the future since thats all just speculation, just a current value guess
This rarity calculator from IlluvialMaster is a significant help in valuing certain cards. I highly recommend it!
i still cant reach the place where we can see the rarity. i see the illuvitars for example, but i click on them and nothing happen
I'd second that - love the site and all the functionality - saves so much time as well ๐
Right now, well hard to say because it's tough to determine how successful Illuvium will become. So it's tough to say.
But since I believe in the success of Illuvium if they stay on track with there developments - well, it's valuation is higher in the future if Illuvium launches successfully!
is the effect on the alphas being worked on? or is the voting still going on?
Hi all - if you think our illuvitars look good now check out what they look like showcased in a metaverse. Had the pleasure to display some of @hazy juniper illuvitars in the C11 district I'm part of. https://twitter.com/kingscoriox/status/1649006006872199168?s=20
And finally a video of me exploring the district. They change things around every so often and there's lots of other features to come so don't forget to check it out.
But one is for sure. The Alpha Holo Blazing Rhamphyre is RIGHT NOW in the uncertainty about whether Illuvium will be successful (which I believe) or not - overpriced!
#MyPersonalOpinion / #NoFinancialAdvise
BRO, that looks amazing!
tks mate - really excited to show it to the illuvium fam! It's accessible on mobile but if you have an oculus it'll blow you mind ๐ ๐ . Everyone is welcome to visit ๐
Amazing work, keep it up @proven flicker !
It's just the start, there is so much more we can do to showcase all the illuvium art/products in an immersive environment plus attract interests from new people to help grow our community.
Yeah, something like your building will attract more attention to Illuvium, imagining the possibilities that such a Museum in the Metaverse brings with it!
I haven't seen something similar so far, and let's imagine if there is cooperation with other high-quality NFT projects, they can also present their art there - and then there could be one official Museum where Illuvium shows the rarest art pieces where you have to pay entry price a small amount. The people who provide their NFTs for the museum get a nominal fee for it.
Just a random idea that just came to my mind!
So yes, you could look at these NFTs on your screen, but what you were paying entry for is the experience in this Metaverse Universe seeing the NFT arts present in its way, which provides the value/reasoning for paying for it!
What's your take on that, @proven flicker ?
And not just that, it could become a "place to go" in the metaverse where you meet others with the same interest and hang out, trading cards or even making duellists with your Illuvial Decks with the Illuvials which you caught in the open world and put together into your own personal PVP deck!
cool idea mate - really like your thinking. C11 is actually a newly formed DAO, once launched we'll be encouraging our members to submit proposals that will benefit the community and partner projects. Would be awesome to have you part of the community - great opportunity to share ideas - possibilities are endless ๐
It would be worth considering writing a proposal in the #ideas channel!
Not as a super high priority, but because the art is basically in a fantastic state, it would be "just" to build the Museum around it on our path to the endgame of Illuvium metaverse.
It's not easy to build that, and it should not be a priority right now, but along the way, it could be one of the future projects!
Sounds excellent. Feel free to send me an invite!
Are you planning to work closely with Illuvium's DAO together, or do you see yourself then entirely as a standalone DAO/Project?
yes, will consider submitting in ideas channel. We've actually commenced early discussions with the illuvium team - very appreciative and super excited ๐
Sounds fantastic, @proven flicker !
I love to hear that - I genuinely like the idea. If there is anything, I can help with - let me know!
We are a standalone DAO - our vision is to unite projects and bring communities together. I'm a loyal illuvium community member, been around since early 2022 - just lucky I have a chance to be involved in 2 project I'm passionate about. Also love giving back to the community even if small way.
I can dm you link to our discord if you'd like
Ok guys, I just saw the tweet from Kieran, How can I get my illuvitars lined up beside eachother like his 6 in a row?
you can show them like that on illuvialmaster - collection - and paste your adress in
can you share link to tweet ๐
Is illuvialmaster another site then where I get my disks?
found it, thanks!
A marketplace and buying features are in the works so anything in the illuvium collection that is able to be sold on secondary will be found there eventually ๐ at the moment itโs mostly for collection viewing, and you can list on secondary through our site
Congrats on the site @topaz zodiac especially the new features released this wk - been using it daily ๐
Thanks, appreciate it! Everyone has been putting in tremendous effort and we love seeing the community feedback! 
Same!
So did the leaderboard patch go live or is that tonight 2am EST?
would be great to showcase the illuvialmaster website on our interactive screens available in C11 district. Can imagine users going to site to seek more info after viewing the illuvitars on display - view Scoriox latest tweet as an example.
feel free to DM me happy to get you what you need for that, wont turn down free advertising ๐
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I noticed a conversation about comparing rarities before and it made me curious, so I just made this
Set 1 Wave 1 Rarity Chart:
That is the chances of pulling something out of a disk, disregarding expression and finish
how was this calculated? some illuvitars % seem off
Sleeves look like they are fixed. Lets get the party started lol Ready Player One's Set collection score is OP lol\
Some of my sleeves were fixed, there are others that are still broken.
Leaderboard still appears broken too.
yes, sorry I should have responded to Abel
I was just letting him know that I still see issues
Using the weight numbers from the Beyond FAQ
Some numbers look off due to there being more than one illuvitar in a certain slot (Lynxes for instance there's 4 sharing the same rarity so they only appear 1/4 of the time each compared to if they had been the only one in that slot)
Same thing with Archie/Atlas/Kukka each being more rare than Lynx (3 sharing one slot, Lynx being alone in it's slot)
what about axon and axodon?
Axodon has a 1/13 chance of being drawn if T1 is selected.
Axon/Kukkulus/Teeantee has a 3/13 chance of being drawn, each having a 1/3 chance, which equates to 1/13 for each, same as Axodon.
thanks
ah you made a mistake in the values then. They don't show up 1/3d of the time. They have a value of 1/3/9 based on their stage. So the values should be similar to this for T1s.
Basically you take the tier rarity, multiply that by the stage weight, which is 1, 3 or 9, and then divide that over the total of stage weight in the Tier-pool. Then you have your odds of obtaining it.
1/3 within the same tier+stage
For Geyserr for example you see that the rarity is basically the same as Goliant and Adoredo. because you have a 1/22, multiplied by the tier rarity of obtaining one.
I need to re-check some numbers then
Sent you my crappy sheet in private so that you have a reference.
wow, nice - thanks 4 sharing ๐
Any word on how the uat went?
Made some mistakes, fixing it now, will update soon
Here we go, Beyond Set 1 Wave 1 - Rarity Chart (with properly calculated weights):
Now it should be accurate (Thanks @smoky verge ).
a really nice representation! looking clean ๐
This is awesome! is it for standard or mega disks?
It should apply for either (with the exception of the second slot on the Mega, which rerolls until you get something with 1250+ power, so numbers might not be accurate for that).
why is T1 S3 more rare than T2 S3? seems weird?
yeah it is weird right ๐
It's due to the distribution of Illuvials in the tier-pool.
T1 s2 also more rare than t2 s2 ๐คจ
as if there are not already enough lynxes....
they also need to make them drop more often wtf
It's because the T2s are a bit weird in their Stage-pool.
You only have a single Stage 1, 5 stage 2 and 25 Stage 3.
the Tier ones have like 9 S1, 9 S2 and 9 S3 instead.
well i dont know if the maths on that really works out how it was supposed to be but i know that we def get too many lynxes so not sure if it is like planned xD
the way they calculate it is that the stage has a different weighting of being pulled. A stage 1 has a weight of 9, a stage 2 has a weight of 3 and a stage 3 of 1.
While the odds for a lower tier are higher, the internal distribution can skew that heavily.
The Tier 1s have Atlas, Kukka and Archie which total up to 27 points. Then you add in the Kukkulus, Teeantee and Axon for an additional 9 points and Axodon for the last point. Total = 37 points.
Now Axodon has the chance of 1 / 37 to be pulled out of the Tier 1 pool
On the other hand, you only have a single Stage 1 Tier 2 Lynx that can dilute the pool with 9 points. For this wave, while the odds of finding a Tier 2 are lower, the amount of Illuvials is much less and the total amount of points is also only 16 (9+3+1+1+1+1)
So if you want to find that stage 3 Illuvial you have a 1/16 to find it when you pull a tier 2.
The next waves you'll find that the stage 3s are even less rare, because the stage 1 Lynx is removed from the Tier 2 pool. Next wave you may see something like: a single stage 2, and like 3 stage 3s that total up to 6 points. which gives you a 4.38% chance of finding a T2 S3 (almost 3x as common as they are now! :))
think its even more, cause if we have 4 waves left we would need to put in 5,25 s3 lynxes each wave xD
Is it just lynxes on tier 2?
yes (for now, maybe next set will be different)
31 in total^^
I wanted to clarify that the 4.38% was for a single Stage 3 lynx. If you just wanted one of three T2 S3s in my example you'd have 3x 4.38% chance so like 13% chance of getting a big lynx ๐ 
well, with 6 waves that's 5 in each upcoming wave and the 6 we got now, so 31
with 6 waves we may see a wave without a Stage 2 or stage 1 lynx... that means you'd have 26% chance for any Stage 3 lynx during that wave 
do we already know that its 6 waves in total?
think 4 more would be enough no?
pretty sure they mentioned 6 somewhere
then we would only have 20 new illuvitars each wave or so?
with 4 waves it would be 25-26
like in that wave... not including t0s
Since there are 130 unique Illuvials and 75 T0s that would be available some other way, it makes sense to me if there are 5 waves of 25 +5 or 6 waves of avaraging 22 each.
i think we should have just 4 more waves cause if we make it 5 we dont get many new ones since we already have t0s....
this time we had 50 new illuvials, if we make 5 more waves its only 21 new ones each time?
I think the amount of waves is still up in the air tbh. there aren't even 150 Illuvials ๐ Only 130 uniques like I said. (and then 25 Tier 0s of stage 1, 2 and 3)
Yeah, that's just what I could find in searches just now
This confirms what i already thought. A slashin even though its tier 3 is rarer then a squiz thats tier 5.
There is a possibility that all of the set 1 ones aren't in the album yet
but as you said, it might not be decided how many waves just yet
i would say they are around same rarity tbh... same goes for geyyser, adoredo and goliant... numbers of illuvitars out there are around the same
No these 130 + 75 will be it for Set 1.
+1 for the Super legendary one that wasn't leaked yet. Idk if there will be an Illuvitar for it tbh
Yeah almost the same. The quantity on the market also shows that.
singe also on the lvl of squizz and slashin but still prices are so different of all of them xD
I find it interesting how the value of Geyyser has always been a bit lower (up to half) of Goliant and Adoredo.
Currently they are about the same ๐
You have the same thing with backgrounds, stage 3s are more rare than the higher tier stage 1s, but they usually sell for less
I think desirability is the major contributing factor. Something may be rare but if it doesn't look as good, people tend to not want them as much.
there's that too, yeah
soon...
Please understand that I don't know which wave it will come ๐ I just found it cute.
and then everyone will aim to get Geyyser lol
Also i dont think all people really knew what was rare and what wasnt. So many things influinced by it.
so i should get more geyysers you say?^^
honestly, I think Geyyser is the best purchase this wave. same with Slashin
and squizz you forgot squizz ;D
Geyyser and Slashin are underrated.
idk i still feel like rhamphyre will have the best price appreciation just bc there are so few out there and its the best you can get basically
I need to open more disks, haven't seen either one yet
Squizz is the accessoires bad boy. Everything looks good on him lol.
My thoughts are: People will aim to finish collections to get certain rewards. And I don't think Squizz will be the limiting factor for a collection. Ophisto will be just as rare as Rhamphyre. So only like 200 people will be able to finish the squid collection.
In contrast, Slashin, Rhamphyre and other Stage 3 Illuvials will be the rarest, so they will be the limiting factor for a while for whoever wants to finish the Line's collection.
holo diamond axodons get my vote, less of those will exist than rhamphyres
but you can still use the regular Axodons for the collections. I do agree they are pretty rare. I am glad i bought one when I did ๐
but squizz and slashin are the same rarity? ๐คจ
oh yes, for completing collections, but for collectibility value? I think its one of the most underrated illuvial
yeah, so they would be similarly rare. But if you know that you can't finish the collection because you can't get Ophisto anyways, then you'll just not go as hard for that collection. At least that's what I think I would do
yeah i see what you mean, thats the reason why i dont go for lines bc i will not get a blazing rham and stuff....
just wanna get all waves until i have set 1 complete tbh... dont care about all the other collections that much
Smart. I intend to finish all Line collections until like Tier 3. and then hold 1 of the higher ones IF I can afford it xD So far it's working.
but I'm already out of liquidity.
yeah everyone needs to set his personal limit somewhere... cant buy everything sadly xD
I oftentimes wish i could splurge like Kieran Lol
Watching the positions on the leaderboard be like
Agree first complete the set and worry about the other things if I still have money left over
Really. Agree. At first I didnโt like geyyser
What are oPhisto
Blazing OPhisto
basically the stage 3 of that Illuvial line
Am I stupid or isn't the bug fixed right now? How the fuck is it possible to have 466k points just with the set 1 collection.
Hot
maybe Thundering or Shocking, or Railing or such.
Yeah probably.
Maybe, but it's already starting from such a high value. But there is something about Rhamphyres though. First ever T5S3 illuvitar and therefore the rarest of the first wave released. As well as it just being an iconic illuvial within illuvium itself.
NFA NFA NFA It would honestly surprise me if rhamphyre's don't get to 6 digits eventually. With rare Rhamphyres to 7 digits
I want an alpha rhamphyre
Please go down sub 1 ETH
Won't happen bro
I am most bullish on illuvium now out of all the projects
I am just dreaming
lol good luck. Talking about support/resistance for nfts is a bit odd but 1 ETH is absolutely a huge psychological support level. I'm not sure if normal rhamphyres drop below
I still cannot believe that there was somebody who sold his blazing rhamphy with a nexus background for 2k haha
Can a man dream
That's for sure bro!
Did you buy it
Wasn't me, but if I would have seen this offer - I would have, that's for sure!
It takes so long to get the ETH in someone would have bought it before me.
Ohh you was loading your ETH, they just arrived to late?
Iโve been trying to convert people to illuvium or introduce them
Still an issue, clearly the no.1 shouldn't be there. Most others appear fine though.
Nah. I can imagine that it can happen on a really great deal
Unless you have tons of ETH in the account
I only got non-alpha and I feel like I am missing an alpha
Maybe I should sell my non-alpha
Take ages to sell at the price you want. LOL
Man everything is falling in illuvialmaster
I hope we are right.
I mean I know we are right
This will probably increase when the wave is over or when rewards are coming.
Only 600 trades per day. On the day rewards where announced we had 2k trades
lol not enough... its all going towards runway until we reach 15mio usdc i think?
Ok
i wouldnt want to have these few dollars revdis anyway when it means that the project runs out of funding^^
we just need to make sure to get towards game launch then all should be good
Yeah I am totally buying for the pfps
Why u are soooo negative. Everytime i see u here, you are spreading negativity. what are you trying to achieve, if you don't mind me asking?
Meh that's your opinion and I have mine. I don't have to validate my views for you. You can call it negativity, but I call it my truth. Have a nice day fren
Then just give constructive feedback than just unnecessary negative comments. Thanks, you too.
Again. You are entitled to your own opinions as am I. You certainly don't get to dictate to anyone what they can and cannot comment.
Its not in my opinion to tell u what u have to do. I am just curious.
Have fun being curious
lol thanks^^
Hehehe, not just me that's noticed then ๐
I love that you care
Wouldn't go that far.
I would travel a thousand miles
@frosty knot Got the "buy now" button bug again. Can't sleeve it.
pssst.. wave 2
Let's gooooo Geyyser to the moon!!!
Happy krunk day 420
Heโs probably broke and wish he could afford some packs. Or had bad luck opening them.
Iโm in the top ten of the leaderboard sooooo no. Nice try with the trolls tho
Funny how people want to say Iโm negative yet three people in here come at me with nothing but negativity. Insert Hypocrisy
proof that your not broke and buy my kukka for 10k
i send you a link
Thatโs not being broke. Thatโs being stupid
Would rather give 10k to the project
Ok Dude
Getting a working album would be pretty good for the project
Pretty sure youโre off base
Would to do with a Rainbow Partyglas slide ,sell , Bond ore Just hold
@tepid geyser You sniped a good deal away with that Holo Leaking Singe i think
You can have a coke and a smile
I don't have enough money to buy cocaine. I put it all into disks
I believe so. Time will tell.
Chat's pretty weird right now ๐คฃ
guess everyones looking at btc and eth and how far it all will go down....
or at the illuvitars marketplace idk xD
what do you guys think about alpha growling geyyser prices? why are they so ridiculously high?^^
non alphas are 0.4eth and alphas 4-5eth^^
i mean no one every sold one for these prices yet but still...
lol thats a huge difference
But in my opinion alpha's are overrated anyway
Still a 10x for a alpha doesn't seem right
Like you said earlier today. Alpha should have a 3x or something. They represent 25% of the total illuvitars
yeah normally its not that much of a difference, i mean i get it that they are really rare but still t5 s2 is about the same rarity and these rare expression ones got sold/listed for way less...
i think the pricing on a lot of things is still not where it should be^^
Assesets will be the Same in Wave 2 yes?
if you consider we are already almost almost 50 days into the sale and still so much stuff is way off... but i guess the missing liquidity is a huge factor here
Atleast now we have an indication of the rarity, so maybe the market can mature a little with that.
is there a way to see how many mega and standard d1sk we bought in illuvium beyond?
does it track history of purchase?
I believe you mean accessories, if so, yes they will all be the same in wave 2.
Yes ok thanks
I don't think everything is way off. Just not enough data and people into the project jet.
I mean a disk is costing you 10 or 50 dollar. Those things are expensive.
The problem is that there not enough buyers who are willing to pay that much at the moment.
Tier 0 will also be the same in Wave 1 to 6?
Accessories will be same wave 1 to 6?
Look at those teeth. they are so clean that '
is why they are so expensive
ohhh yeah true.... how could i miss that.... ๐ง
isn't that expression rare?
theres only 13 of those in alpha
the tongue is not worth much
yeah i mean uncommon expression is only 2x as rare as common
yeah boo
rare around 5-6x as rare as common... so if a common one costs 0.25 a rare should be at around 1.25 i guess?
I don't think it is linear like that
exponential
something super rare is way more than what ever chance at getting it multiple
it is more than that for sure
well it depends id say....
if you have the same illuvitar with a bg that is 10x more rare i dont think that he will also be 10 more expensive
and not even close to exponential imo
maybe with the expression it could be more than 5x... maybe....
but that also depends on the illuvitar i think
ok i think your statement becomes more true the rarer the illuvitar is cause then the rare expression ones get so extremely rare that its not even funny anymore
This also means the ones your holding yourself could be worth a lot in the future. Don't stress out. Your early in the project 
yep true... im just trying to analyze and understand the market to be prepared for wave 2 since the rarities of the next ones will be the same just different styles ๐
I think that time has come on gone.
Waiting for news.....
yeah didn't they say it will be communicated clearly at that time?
oh okay.. sure. .no problem. just curious that's all I am in nor hurry.
I think he was referring to rewards there.
yeah I thought he might at that time he will let us know what is happening with the rewards and when the snap shot is happening.
They will, loud and clear when the time comes, I am sure.
okay Sir Alexa
Gm all! can't wait for the weekend to come ๐คฃ
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The start date for Rewards will be clearly communicated.
The dependency for the commencement of rewards is ensuring we have a fair, level playing field that includes a true reflection of the top 100.
We're still working towards a fix for Production, it was a late night last night.
Scheduled a push for tonight provided today is smooth sailing. Update to follow.
I feel like we need something like that for overworld where you can display your nfts and other ppl can visit your "home" and then imagine you could just trade your nfts while in the game... mindblowing if you think what could be possible 
Grant sad that they have a idea where you can see your illuvitars on a wall in the arena of your ship.
Thats what i wanted to hear ๐๐
Were def going in the right direction with that 
great idea, features are currently being explored and built that could allow collectors/holders the ability to display their NFTs in their own VR space (i.e. could be an shopfront/apartment), visitors could click on image to view details, walk to interactive screen to potentially purchase the NFT......opportunities are endless
Try to clear cache from your browser.
Let me know if this is able to be resovled
same
it worked! thanks guys!
Clear cache fixed the problem?
sure did

Great. Nice catch man. Wow๐ฅ
Squizz
You need to go buy more D1sk like Kieran is doing untill he gets what he wants. ๐
Demomic Squizz?
Just a standard one Stage 1 expression, plan is to complete Set 1 Wave 1 Collection buying off secondary and return to Mega D1SKs
Missing the big ticket items but want to have it completed
yeh me spent to much on construction project bank says no more credit today .....grrrrrr
will the visuals on alpha be added anytime soon? or is that not a priority?
People have been talking about it but afaik nothing has been decided
i see, thanks
Hey Team, writing to let you know that we assigned two of the QA Engineers working on the game to Beyond for the day.
We're seeing some edge cases raised that must be addressed before we go to Prod. We'll continue to push towards a resolution with further updates to come.
looks like sometime next week for this to be resolved then
The issues are minor, we're pushing to resolve by EOD today.
Aiming for UAT tonight, conduct testing over the weekend/Monday, Production Deployment Monday
Why there is No collection for emberlynx classes
Cant fill my common axodon in the album it says "buy now"
u can click on the Class icons inside of the collection to move between lynx stage 3 classes
If you have had the axodon for a while, the album may not understand that you have it in your wallet. So you woulf have to update the data manually. You can do this by:
Buying another axodon
Sending the axodon away and back to your wallet
Bonding the axodon.
Or you can just wait until the team fixes this issue. They seem to have 2 more QA testers on the job now!
Anyone having sleeve issues, since gas is free you can transfer to another wallet, transfer back, and hard refresh, this has worked for me with any issues.
Yea what Garf said lol
Will there be collections for different expressions for lynx lines?
Yup, more collections opened/added over time
many of the collections for me are broken. it wont let me fill the slots my ocd... pls fix
Read up about 8 messages chief, fix incoming Monday
Great to hear man. I have a friend whose still not back on leaderboard & a bit worried
When theyโre back up yes it will be
thanks for your long hours and dedication team!
Couldn't agree more!
You gotta love these guys from illuvialmasters. They added something that shows your rarity rank. This badboy is ranked 13 ๐
Love how these guys are putting in the work and adding these features 
Top 13 of 250.766 illuvitars is pretty sick also
Iยดm also curious about the 12 above this one. I know a few of them but not all.
I feel like the illuvinati of illuvitars now. Top 1% 
I was checking some of those earlier and they don't seem to make sense.
I have 1 with 1.2 million chance and 1 10.5 million chance and the 1.2 million chance is ranked higher?
Not sure how they are calculating.
Hmm that's seems off. Maybe somebody of illuvialmasters can elaborate how that works?
Still a sick feature if it works correct.
Agree totally. Just not quite sure if it's off or they have some way of calculating it that I am unaware of.
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Your holo radiant adoredo is number 5 though goddamn ๐
It is a monster that one. Love it โค๏ธ
Hmm I'm curious how that calculated also. You would think that the 10mil one is more rare.
Maybe it has something to do with the tiers of the illuvitar
I hope its valid tough. I like that number 13 for the slashin ๐
No idea, hopefully they come on and let us know.
You'd think absolute rarity would trump all though.
I'll bet you do, mega rare ๐
Yeah man. But i'm also curious about the rest above it. I know your adoredo and the rham with the sick background are above it.
That rham is number one probably
Yep its number 1 alright
Atleast @late cradle made it to the top 10 with its last rhamphyre
Hey folks,
That rank thing is cool, going to check some Illuvitars ASAP.
Not sure if there's been an update on the update, I can't see anything pinned, so briefly: the priority for his next release is ensuring we don't just fix existing issues but also that we don't push out any new bugs, and quite simply the UAT testing found some additional bugs.
We don't want to push out something that fixes 90% of issues when we can wait a few days and fix them all. Thanks for bearing with us!
assuming no new issues that sounds right
Lets hope so. I don't think adding dates helps. Only if its really fixed by then.
the rarity caclulator/rank thing really shows how under appreciated backgrounds are
Yep. So glad i hold on to the slashin. The underappreciation has caused people to not buy it when i listed it for cheap so i'm thankful for it ๐