🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[turbid moss]

30 Alpha Mega's chance of Rhamphyre

?

LOL

or just forget about Alpha and get 120 Mega

[dusk gyro]

alpha will be more worth in long run imo

[turbid moss]

4 x the fun.

darn it

[dusk gyro]

you do what ever you think tho

[turbid moss]

yeah of course

I am just speaking outload in the discord and you guys are my conscience

LOL

[dusk gyro]

[turbid moss]

I love hearing you guys speak

or ideas

[dusk gyro]

you could do half and half

just saying

[turbid moss]

true

or just don't spend so much on illuvitars 1.5 ETH half and half

[dusk gyro]

ya lol

[turbid moss]

0.75 ETH for Alpha Mega
0.75 ETH for Non-Alpha Mega

plus I don't think getting to 1,000 D1sk is worth accomplishing

and 5,000 d1sk is way out of reach

7 Alpha Mega
30 Non-Alpha Mega it is

[dusk gyro]

damn i just bought 3 standard lol

[dusk gyro]

I think thats smart

[turbid moss]

why damn

how did they turn out?

[dusk gyro]

nah just like "Damn that crazy" not a bad thing

I havent opened yet

[turbid moss]

you mean 3 standards is crazy?

I've decided to down grade to 1 eth

[dusk gyro]

nah I was just shocked by what you bought its just alot for me

[turbid moss]

oh.. I didn't buy anything yet

[turbid moss]

aren't you going to open them?

[dusk gyro]

I just did and got jack shit lol

[turbid moss]

anyways.. I am going to try my luck with Alpha to see what I get.

anyways.. hope it is good to improve my ranking

[dusk gyro]

Its crazy that were almost half way through wave 1

[turbid moss]

It is still a long way to go

Why are the Standard Alpha D1sk more expense then the original price

wasn't standard alpha D1sk 0.025 ETH now it is 0.03255 ETH?

[dusk gyro]

Ya I think because demand is high for the holo teir zeros

[elder pawn]

because there weren't many standard alpha packs sold and because there weren't many sold, there aren't many holo tier 0's.

[turbid moss]

really?

[turbid moss]

Okay got it

30% premium

[dusk gyro]

ya the floor is 105$ for alpha holo teir 0

[turbid moss]

what are the chances for getting good Alpha Tier 1 to 5

dang I didn't keep any of my alpha standard D1sks

is the 1 non Tier 0 the same as the once in alpha Mega D1sks

or are the Illuvitars rarer in alpha mega d1sks

I forgot what are the chances

does this green background look good with Rhamphyre

It is definitely not mine

What looks good with Rhamphyre hmm..

By the way when is the auction starting?

[dusk gyro]

Mega disk will never give a teir 0

[dusk gyro]

Ya I personally love the satge 1 drone background

I have it on my main pfp

[dusk gyro]

I believe that the auction is at the end of wave 1

[hasty grotto]

the wife just "made" me buy her a 4d 3 night holiday in Boracay for here birthday ....I think its time for some revenge disk buying

[smoky verge]

Auction still needs IIPs for it and a sufficient amount of items up for sale. And probably it isnt the best time for the salr at all because we are pretty bearish with 65$ per ILV. I say we could wait for the end of Set 1. So all 6 waves and then start the auction with like 20-25 misprinted illuvitars.

[hasty grotto]

Im still working out how im going find funds for wave 2

Without disbanding my favorite wave 1 iluvitars

[stone swallow]

Idk about that, that would mean some collections might never be completed? Maybe not the case in wave 1 but i think the hype will die down a lot in later waves

[smoky verge]

If people want to finish their collections, they will continue to buy. We have people like Seatin, and Alexa and Johnny. It isnt gonna happen that certain non-alpha ones arent found.

Remember. Misprints = Alpha Illuvitars that werent found. Either Holo or Non-Holo.

[stone swallow]

If you say so. Idk their financial status

[smoky verge]

They know that staying on the leaderboard requires you to make continuous concessions. It has been brought up. I think things will be fine 😄
But even if certain collections cant be finished for the time being, do you think they would want to pay X for an auction? Do you think they will have money for that then? They'll have to outbid each other.
And rven then it isnt the biggest deal if you cant finish one collection.

[half jay]

So does that mean all alpha‘s which haven’t been found gonna be misprints? Where has that been set in stone ? Cause this would be kind of a rug to those who have so far a none Alpha but 1 out of 1!

[smoky verge]

This was the entire reason that Alphas were introduced.

[delicate delta]

I don’t own any of the rarest Illuvitars at the moment, but I feel like so many D1SKs have been opened and there’s a balanced supply of everything according to rarity so far, that I’d rather the Auctions just don’t take place

I’d rather the rarest Rhamfyre was the one pulled than just one that’s thrown together and bidded off, just feel like it cheapens the experience. But we’ll cross that bridge and have that discussion if/when we come to it.

I don’t really remember how the Auctions were meant to work.

[half jay]

Or let’s assume the extreme example, someone finds a none Alpha Illuvitar (Holo Goofy Rhamphyre) and he won’t have it as a 1 out of 1 cause there gonna be another one with a alpha stamp?!
For real?

You got to be kidding me if that would be the case.
Cause let’s say this misprint would have the rarest background, it would automatically devalue all other once of its class who have been regularly pulled and not just „printed“ for sake of making a little bit more eth on top

[smoky verge]

The team wants all Illuvitars accounted for, Alpha ánd non Alpha for the rumored card games or games around the Illuvitars.
So they thought that an auction of the missing illuvitars would be a fun way as well as a very profitable way. Which would then also be cool for marketing purposes: Alpha Holo Goofy rhamphyre, 1/1 sold for 100Eth or whatever.

But indeed the auction will need confirmations and discussions from team and community 🙂

[half jay]

100% against it.
If every single alpha which did not get pulled gets printed with its most rarest background, then this would be a huge joke!

There isn’t even anything set in stone yet, so how dare you saying it in a way it is?!

[smoky verge]

Im just sharing what I know. 🙂 how dare I.

[hasty grotto]

well if the misprint sold for 100eth and i had the 1/2 i'd be happy .....lol

[half jay]

Well you sharing it in a way that it looks like that’s how it’s going to be, point - end of conversation.

[half jay]

Considering that yours would be without the misprint even more worth and will be to 99% not a tier 5 stage 3 background.
It simply devalues yours, basic economy

[smoky verge]

Ah fair. Well im just a community member i dont have the power to set things in stone. This has been how it was presented to us all this time. Like i said in my first message:
"Auctions still need IIPs for them."

But with that in mind I just started explaining the current idea around the auctions.

[hasty grotto]

IDK I have 1/1 already

atm atleast

[rich elm]

"Soon" has been said since the first week lol. If they dont know when its ready then they should just say they dont know instead of "soon". Such a vague term.

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[rich elm]

😂

I´m serious though. I think its better to be transparent and honest.

[valid sierra]

They are

[rich elm]

I keep hearing ´´soon´´ while instead they could communicate ´´we don't know´´

[valid sierra]

They know, it's soon.

[potent tulip]

doing fixes vs publishing those fixes onto the blcokchain are 2 very different things mate.. u cant easily roll things back u know.

got to be careful to do it right, or u might make an even larger amount of work to fix ur mistakes

[rich elm]

I can understand its hard and i believe they working on it the best they can. But in terms of communicating in my opinion its better to be transparent and say we don't know when its gonna be ready because its hard instead of ´´soon´´.

[lean bear]

member when land sale was s00n

member when illuvitar sale was s00n

s00n all the s00ns will be gone and we will only have memories

https://tenor.com/view/really-deep-thats-deep-nick-jonas-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210072

[rich elm]

Just giving some feedback. You can try and defend it or take it in and learn from it.

[stone swallow]

That's the whole idea of the auction so people can complete their collection of the collection game?

[stone swallow]

Its a meme here youll get used to it

[rich elm]

That means it happens frequently. So again i think if you are transparent about things not working out and needing more time just say that. Don't get peoples hopes up with ´´soon´´.

Soon could be tomorrow but can also be next year. It all depends on who your asking

Communication is key if you are trying to build a community

[valid sierra]

Next year is not soon.

[stone swallow]

They made a roadmap in #📣〕announcements so its bound to at least quarters now

[valid sierra]

It's as soon as possible

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

They could just post announcement when an update is made, instead they are giving us updates on everything they are working on

I appreciate the soons

[tidal adder]

I think there is no need to be overly aggressive. This was not made up by Garf, I too heard of the idea of misprint auction during one of the townhalls from Aaron and it was discussed several times on Discord (search for the word misprint). Also, the comment did mention this being subject to IIP so I assume they'll gauge community sentiment about it.
I don't think it was ever said that the misprints will get the rarest backgrounds, that's just your extrapolation..."how dare you?" to quote you 🙂

[tepid geyser]

The team have stated quite clearly that the auctions are very much a part of the wave 1 rollout.
At this point I think they should roll out, good or bad, disagree or not.
If the community are not happy with the result, petition to scrap it for wave 2.

All buying decisions should have already been taking these auctions into consideration as it has been in black and white that they are coming from the start.

If these auctions are scrapped after being so open about their existence, how can we ever trust anything that is ever published by the team again, and I don't feel that is being dramatic.

[tidal adder]

You have a point, it was clearly stated in there too!

[rich elm]

They said that backgrounds don't count as missed prints. But what does then and do we even have missed prints?

[tidal adder]

My understanding is that it's only based on the illuvitars. So basically, if a alpha holo laser goliant has not been minted, we'd have a misprint of that for which the background will be random

[rich elm]

So only alpha will count towards misprints?

Or is that still debatable?

[tidal adder]

I think that was the idea. Whether it's debatable, I don't know maybe someone can clarify

But to me it looks like we'll not get a lot of misprints. This would only apply to the very (statistically) rare cards like holo blazing ramphyre etc. and even then, some of these have actually been minted

Did a very quick check on alpha T5's and I see the following as missing:

• Holo Demonic Squizz
• Regular Holo Ramphyre and Holo Goofy one
• Holo Radiant Adoredo
• Holo Laser Goliant

[restive kettle]

Yep and thats not a lot, prob not even worth doing an auction for just 5 cards... maybe better to wait for more waves and then sell them all together at a bigger auction...

[tidal adder]

Agree with you and maybe by then more Alpha disks would have been opened 🙂

[restive kettle]

And then maybe also do the t5 land auction together with that... ofc timing needs to fit but that would be a big one then

[rich elm]

Aah no thats not a lot. So it doesn't really effect the market then.

[tidal adder]

Not really, even if you have one of these in non-alpha, am sure their value will hold 😉

[rich elm]

I'm glad they are not taking backgrounds in to the misprints since the tier 5 stage 3 is so rare.

Harder to get then a Rhamphyre

[tidal adder]

Yes. And that's why I didn't really understand some of the earlier complaints about the auction

[restive kettle]

Most ppl that are complaining about it dont even fully understand how it was meant to be 😅

At least from what i have seen... and everytime you explain them, everyone is just like "ah ok then its fine" 🤣

But i understand it, i also wouldnt want my precious illuvitars to get devalued by anything

[tidal adder]

Same here so it's understandable but if one buys without proper due diligence, then it's their mistake 🙂

[half jay]

Well the point is, it isn't even clearly layed out yet how this auction will look like - so how should you rely on something what isn't even set yet ?

[tidal adder]

I think what's not laid out is the timing of the auction and how it will be conducted but the intention has been laid out during the townhall and they did say that backgrounds would not count

And like we said earlier, only a handful of cards seem to be misprints...

[half jay]

Well does that mean your saying @flint loom was wrong then?

[tidal adder]

No, I am saying you were wrong about making an assumption on backgrounds when it was never mentioned before

Is your concern now about whether the missed prints will be branded as alpha or not?

[half jay]

Forget the backgrounds, I'm talking about alpha or none alpha's now - in relation to the auction.

[restive kettle]

Dont think it makes any sense to do a non alpha misprint sale cause i think the only thing missing is the holo goofy rham and that could eventually be pulled sooner or later... so i think non alphas should be off the table

And even if no one pulls the holo goofy rham would you rather wann do a sale for a alpha or a non alpha one? I would vote for alpha...

But i guess we could also auction both of them... then we would have 5 alphas and one non alpha... either way it doesnt make much difference id say

[smoky verge]

You cant expect the influencer manager to be up to date on all things development that arent even confirmed yet. It is not his department. In this case, i think Tarren just wasnt informed and he clearly stated that he wasnt sure on it either.
Here it was mentioned that during the auction, they would sell the missed alpha prints.

#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

But again, when, how and which backgrounds should be added will all have to be decided on still.
In this message by Aaron, Im not sure whether it was yet changed that the Alpha packs could remain unopened. Which is also a major change to beyond. And other things can still easily be swapped around.

[fast warren]

cant seem to connect to Illuvium beyond, shows my wallet etc...

seems I sold something to as I have a bunch of eth I never did

[smoky verge]

Check your wallet address on Immutascan

And try logging back out and in on the Illuvidex.

[fast warren]

i logged out and back in, seems to have fixed it... thx

[turbid moss]

so maybe I shouldn't open my Mega Alph d1sk until they have the auction

LOL

[smoky verge]

Does this mean you want to open it after the auction? Shouldnt until... 🧐

[turbid moss]

so that maybe I can get another of those rare ones

that has never been opened

[smoky verge]

You oughta find it before the auction though.

[turbid moss]

so that there is no auction for it

[smoky verge]

The auction will print one of the missing versions. So if you nów find that one, it wont be auctioned. If you find it áfter the auction, it already will have a version going around so it will be 1/2 instead.

So you should open all your d1sks before rhe auction.

Yep.

I guesd thats what you meant and I didnt understand!

[turbid moss]

yeah

I guess it is better to get the rare ones first before auction , but maybe the rare ones after auction can increase the price of these Mega and standard packs

because the chances of me getting an extremely rare item is rare

[smoky verge]

Yeah hopefully. On the other hand, if the rare ones were now 1/1 already, they may decrease the d1sks value: "Nothing new to get from the d1sks."

[turbid moss]

but still possible

true..

136 Rhamphyres out there in total so far

seems like there should be on average 4 Rhamphyres given out each day

all depends how many are opened I guesss

[smoky verge]

Since 130K d1sks were sold... does this mean the rarity of rhamphyres is even worse than we expected? 136/130K is 1/10.000 right? 2.5x as rare as we had expected them to be 👀
Oh no. 0s messing with me. Should be 1/1000.

[turbid moss]

I guess these Geysers are pretty rare

I want to puke when i see this

or these

[lean bear]

show puke or did nt happen

[turbid moss]

I'll get banned

[lean bear]

are those all t5s3 backgrounds?

oh nvm kukka is dogshiii

[turbid moss]

I don't know . but I think they are just showing the characters

[smoky verge]

Only the adoredo background seems to still be used. The images are just placeholders.

[tepid geyser]

I love that rainbow background. So sad it didn't make the cut 😭

[turbid moss]

oh yeah

many of them didn't make it

[reef charm]

I’m having bonders remorse

[turbid moss]

what happened

[turbid moss]

what did you bond?

[restive kettle]

Check the rham you wanted to buy, seems like he lowered the price... if thats the one you were talking about 😅

[reef charm]

my profile picture

could have done without the clown nose...

at least my Empowered Dash is a 1 of a kind 1/1

[turbid moss]

maybe you can take it off in the future if you burn it

it might cost you to remove the clown nose

in the future maybe you can do so at a cost

[reef charm]

I hope that is the case, if not its cool it has grown on me

[turbid moss]

yeah it is fine.. it is a risk we all take to move up the leaderboard

I guess you will go down the leaderboard if you remove an accessory

if they allow you to.

very costly to burn a 20% accessory and lose points from the leaderboard

costing you hundreds to thousands of dollars per high quality accessory

I think points and monetary cost will deter people organically from debonding

If they actually implement this de-bonding function

[pearl olive]

debonding?
don't think thats a good idea, people can CHOOSE whether or not to bond. You don't have to, plus it creates more options for collectors

[coral moth]

I like the idea of being able to bond over other accessories. This would solve a lot of the worries about devaluing.

[dim hamlet]

the whole point of collectables is strategy, those who planned for the future and took risks, like not to bond these illuvilias , should get rewarded for this. I bet you many are just lazy and don't want do research or how many rare illuvilias will be forgotten/lost in their wallets as people lose interest.

I really want to play the leaderboard but still want to have an opportunity to keep originals unbonded. Solution- pretty much have to buy 2 of the same and just bond 1 and leave the other for storage 🤣

[dreamy cipher]

It’s part of the game strategy you either play or you don’t. You have a choice

[turbid moss]

I need another Geyyser.. At first I hate it, now I have it as my profile

LOL

I wonder if there is a need to keep Alpha Mega and Alpha Standards unopened

these d1sk are NFT themselves right?

I know some project's packs are not NFT

and only what's inside are NFT

[dim hamlet]

I would keep some in case down the road some wale or youtuber starts mass buying these for content

[turbid moss]

yeah $2,000 Alpha Mega packs

would you sell or open?

if

[dim hamlet]

tough one bro

[turbid moss]

just a fun thinking

that means there is something possible in there worth a lot

like over $10,000

[dim hamlet]

are you playing leaderboard ?

[turbid moss]

yeah

trying

[dim hamlet]

place?

[turbid moss]

but not sure how I can hold on unless I bond

haven't checked in a day

I was at 78? or something like that

anyways.. I don't even know when they are doing snap shot

top 100 probably needs 700,000

[dim hamlet]

I'm 40 but slowly keep getting pushed down, goal to be under 50

[turbid moss]

by the end of wave 1

top 50 obviously over 1 mil

just get yourself over 1 mil you can be close to Top 50

Nevermind I am at 79 LOL

[dreamy cipher]

either way the rewards program needs to get started lol

[turbid moss]

I bonded 5 Illuvitars

That's all I've got

[dim hamlet]

how do you post pictures on here

[turbid moss]

copy and paste?

screenshot

[tepid geyser]

Click the + button here on chat.

[dim hamlet]

omg thank you so much

i feel dumb now

[turbid moss]

oh.. I never use that

[turbid moss]

I never use that button.. I just screenshot and control -v

fast

[turbid moss]

you are not dumb

dude.. I didn't know anything and now I know 0.01%

about computers

[dim hamlet]

trying to get all holo but these T0 are getting expensive

[turbid moss]

Oh wow

all Holos

[dim hamlet]

like you cant bond these holos in my opinion

[dim hamlet]

they look so clean

[turbid moss]

I think they are available in all waves

for set 1

[dim hamlet]

yes

[turbid moss]

so they are not that unique

[dim hamlet]

these are

[half jay]

If you have a full set of T0 wave1 set1 they def. are!

[turbid moss]

I am missing more than you

that is why you are top 50

[dim hamlet]

trying buying Intense Nature Volante, super expensive

[turbid moss]

aren't they available to be pulled in each wave?

[dim hamlet]

or Hypnotic Nature Fllish

[turbid moss]

cheaper than Rhamphyre?

[dim hamlet]

of course

[turbid moss]

Are you going to bid when there is rare Illuvitar?

you must have opened a lot of Standards

[dim hamlet]

probably not, I need to get some land also

[turbid moss]

do you already have any?

[dim hamlet]

0

[turbid moss]

oh okay.. what Tier you want to get?

[half jay]

They are, but that's my point if you pulled them all in first wave or collected them all in the first one - different!

#NoFinancialAdvise

[dim hamlet]

I'm trying to have a little of everything, ILV,Land, OpenSea NFts, beyond

[turbid moss]

How can you tell in the future they were pulled during first wave?

[half jay]

ID's "wave1" and so on

[dreamy raven]

They are tagged with wave 1

[turbid moss]

okay got it

it matters huh

[dim hamlet]

you better believe it that it does

[turbid moss]

oh okay

great I have them

[half jay]

?

[turbid moss]

I try to believe but only the future can tell

[dim hamlet]

meaning, in the future wave 1 T0s might better valuable than wave 2 T0s

[turbid moss]

I don't have a single HoLO Alpha Tier 0

so sad

[turbid moss]

unless people don't pull wave 2 as much for T0

[dim hamlet]

which ever strategy you guys chose, hope everyone will win something down the road

[turbid moss]

can't sell anything unless I have duplicates

sad

[half jay]

Well if we hit mainstream and not only "investors" but real gamers it gonna be alright!

[turbid moss]

well, yeah

talking about these metal plates

how much are they worth

printing your illuvitar on those plates

I wonder how this project will compare with BAYC? Any thoughts?

any big names backing this project or shilling

[dim hamlet]

personally hoping this stays low on the radar and then explodes when nearing BTC halving rally

BTC halving combined with cutting interest rates can really send this high

[fathom lintel]

I agree, happy to load up on wave 1-2 illuvitars without the crowds and have them explode in value later

[dim hamlet]

Mars would be better 🤑

[fathom lintel]

this project will be carried by the prize pools once we get there, Aaron said leaderboard prizes for pvp will be much bigger than beyond prizes, it will draw the crowds in, money is the best incentive

[dim hamlet]

just wait till Asia picks this up

[fathom lintel]

I feel there will be a perfect storm later, with game release, crypto bull market and rev dis all kicking in

[dim hamlet]

Coaching fees incoming for zero, arena and overword lol

[fathom lintel]

oh yes, so many ways to make money

and make an awesome collection at the same time

[dim hamlet]

before they announce rewards for leaderboard I could always find good deals on IlVDex but now its like almost impossible or BOTs buy it up if someone makes a mistake

[fathom lintel]

you can still find good deals I feel, just need to refresh your pages with different filters often

might not be big ones but I'm happy to pick up the smaller deals too

[dim hamlet]

waiting for the backgrounds to get diluted with every wave

[fathom lintel]

for example, not many people calculated that there will only be around 100 holo axodons with rare expression ever

so I happily picked one up for 80

[dim hamlet]

omg, I was thinking the same and missed out as i was focused on other ones

[fathom lintel]

there was another one for 100 on the market for a few days

but axons are also super cheap

and this family is the flagship one, and the only one with all cards in set 1

so yes, I think there are still many good deals 🙂

[dim hamlet]

I think there is only 3 of these in total, how do I check this?

cause I have 2 of them

[fathom lintel]

nice, serious axon is already not cheap

you filter for it and uncheck "buy"

[dim hamlet]

1st costed me 100$, 2nd 170 ....

[fathom lintel]

it will show all the unlisted ones too

there are also many cards where the uncommon expression is the same price as the common one, also a good buying opportunity

[dim hamlet]

So only found 3 of these

[fathom lintel]

and 2 are already bonded, congrats

[dim hamlet]

really wan the 3rd but not paying 500👀

i got the stock and 4.7k power one

[fathom lintel]

yes, need to be smart with money, I can find many more good deals than I can afford

[dim hamlet]

as usual gonna go browse dex for a little

[fathom lintel]

I also picked up 4 of the first 70 illuvitars minted, got up early the morning after the sale started and went through all forst 100

picked one up for 19 dollars, lol

[dim hamlet]

smart

[fathom lintel]

another one for 29

[dim hamlet]

maybe wave 2 will be the same

[fathom lintel]

could be, I will check for sure 🙂

but there will never be double digit mint numbers again

[dim hamlet]

omg I can't help it need to transfer money

[turbid moss]

transfer money to do what

[dim hamlet]

buy more Illuvitars of course

[turbid moss]

when? now many d1sk you buying? mega or standard?

[dim hamlet]

I have the worst luck so no more disks for me 🤣

[turbid moss]

oh okay.. so just buy direct

[dim hamlet]

yep

[turbid moss]

what you mean by bad luck you got some holos

[dim hamlet]

50% were bought direct

[turbid moss]

you got some Tier 5?

oh wow.. nice

I bought 2 of my Tier 5 directly because I couldn't pull them

[dim hamlet]

Just squizz and Radiants Adoredo Alpha

[turbid moss]

how many Alpha Megas and Alpha Standards are you keeping unopened

wow

that's pretty good

Rhamphyres are impossible with Alpha

[dim hamlet]

I opened all of them as the temptation was to much

[turbid moss]

you mean you want all 3

THis also looks good

Adorius looks amazing

[dim hamlet]

Like this for example is going to be so hard to collect

unless you have 1+k disks then buying direct is the only option

[turbid moss]

Sonic the hedgehog

yeah i couldn't pull the adoredo

Cool

[restive kettle]

i just bought myself a kukka off the market... didnt think i would ever do that xD

[turbid moss]

Cute Red Panda

or whatever that is

[restive kettle]

but it feels like its worth it for 0.21^^

[turbid moss]

This is also cute I guess.... kinda

Fat

[turbid moss]

nice

nice background

So good

So when are they going to give us our Emotes for each d1sk we hold?

[dim hamlet]

better sell it before backgrounds get diluted with wave 2, if you trying to make a dollar

[dreamy raven]

Have there been any news on wether or not the battle skin / suit is a NFT or account bound?

[valid sierra]

After open beta

[turbid moss]

I heard the emotes are going to be account bound if you bond to your account to be used in game

[dim hamlet]

Gangsta Squizz if my favorite Emote by far

[turbid moss]

why?

[dreamy raven]

It’s d1sk you have purchased

[dim hamlet]

cause of ILV hat

[turbid moss]

What are those Dawn badge for?

[restive kettle]

well backgrounds maybe get diluted but not the actual illuvitars... cause there will prob never be more than 5-7 holo paranoid kukkas with t5 background... so not sure about that theory...cause then you could also say sell your rham with t1 bg cause of dilution....

[dim hamlet]

true that

[dreamy raven]

Although in the first case the background is the majority of the price, and in the latter it doesn’t affect the price

[restive kettle]

i think the combination of illuvitar + bg is what should make the price and were already seeing this reflected in current prices

[dreamy raven]

I think you are correct cause the value will be set by collectors. If it was purely by leaderboard however, it wouldn’t matter that much is my guess

[restive kettle]

in the latter one it does also affect the price or are you saying a rham with a t3 bg is worth the same as one with a t1 bg

[restive kettle]

i agree on that one it surely is more of a collectors piece but that was excatly what i wanted 😉

[dreamy raven]

It’s what most want. 😃🙌🏻 that BG also looks very good on most Illuvitars

[restive kettle]

yep i mean purple illuvium coins cant get much better than that 😄

[restive kettle]

what would you guys prefer to have, one of these non alpha holos or a alpha non holo with a better bg?

purely from a collectors standpoint

[dim hamlet]

Alpha

[dreamy raven]

Im a sucker for holos.

[dim hamlet]

Radiant or regular ?

[dreamy raven]

It’s the only thing I always filter on, when looking for buys 😅

[restive kettle]

haha i feel you xD

[dreamy raven]

Radiant is the cheapest there. So definitely radiant

[restive kettle]

nah just one of these

theres no radiant

[dreamy raven]

I thought focussed

[dim hamlet]

Focused ?

Purple looks like a Focussed

[restive kettle]

yep 2 holo focused and the non holo also

but yeah i guess if i would ask more ppl it would be a 50/50 thing?^^

[dreamy raven]

The purple focussed looks great!

[restive kettle]

i think so too and its also 1/1

[dreamy raven]

Would maybe shift more towards alpha in the end of wave 1. Depending on D1SK’s sold

[dim hamlet]

wait a minute, is there like less than 25 Holo Adoredo minted?

[restive kettle]

lol nope

[dreamy raven]

The only minted are those on sale

Same with mine. Only 2 minted

But different colours

[restive kettle]

oh yeah holos right

[dreamy raven]

I count 20

[restive kettle]

20 non alpha yes

5 alpha

[dim hamlet]

looks like there are plenty of Alphas, then I would go with Holo for sure

[dreamy raven]

You sure? I see 20 in total

[restive kettle]

oh yeah right xD

[dreamy raven]

15/5

[restive kettle]

counting man^^

but theres also only 10 non alpha with t2 s3 bgs and only 4 alphas....

so they are also really rare

[dreamy raven]

Yeah. Especially when over 10. Then your all out of fingers

[dreamy raven]

If you apply those metric to Hollis your down to 3

For both alpha and non alpha in total

[restive kettle]

t2 s3 bg you mean?

[dreamy raven]

Yeah

[restive kettle]

theres only one holo i see

and thats the radiant one that alexa bought for just 2.6eth...

still jeallous of that one xD

[dreamy raven]

Oh true

Wow

It’s the best of them all

[restive kettle]

yep thats the one im telling you

but its gone

[dreamy raven]

Tried looking at Goliants. They have tier 1 background almost all of them

[restive kettle]

yeah getting a t2 s3 is already super hard... getting that on a holo radiant adoredo is just insane

[dim hamlet]

so I see Radiant Adoredo Alpha only 11 total and I owe on of them

[restive kettle]

oh yeah true and even with the sec best bg... gz man

man that one with the t5 bg could have been worth a fortune if he hadnt butchered it xD

[chrome harness]

any word on wen we

leaderboard pay?

[remote saddle]

They said fixes were complete 4 days ago so just testing left but no actual date

[fathom frigate]

Nice collection

[somber kayak]

Nick just said that the bugs are fixed for the leaderboards but not for the collection bugs like "buy now" button on slots that we have an illuvitar for etc. So I guess this takes some more time till the rewards are live.

[half jay]

And there are only 5 holo Alpha Adoredos ❤️

[rich elm]

Holo Adoredo is scare by any means

[frosty knot]

The patch will include a fix for:

• Leaderboard issues
• Album Action issues (Sleeving an Illuvitar, Changing an Illuvitar etc.)

UAT tonight, aiming for Production tomorrow.

[frosty knot]

As far as UX/UI improvements, these will be fewer and far between for the short term due to the following:

• Waiting on APIs being made available by IMX.
• Web Team/Design Team shifting focus to Fuel Pool, Game Launcher, Account Areas (consolidated account's Web-App)
• 90%+ Backend Resource committed to Arena

We'll look to improve IlluviDex/Beyond, from a Frontend only perspective in the Short-Term (but it will be smaller, niche' nice to haves rather than large feature inclusions)

[turbid moss]

is Green Drone any good background?

Would you take a

• same illuvitar
• T3S1 BG
• non-alpha
• Uncommon Expression
• 60% cheaper than the one below?

or

• same illuvitar
  -T1S1 BG
  -alpha
  -common expression

[restive kettle]

Lol you were asking that yesterday already and now that one of them costs only half of it youre still not sure?

[turbid moss]

LOL

forget it .. I bought it

non-alpha

[restive kettle]

👍

[turbid moss]

Yes I was

you know .. I am on the same topic

I was waiting for them to go sub 1 ETH

Thank you whoever sold this to me

[restive kettle]

Not sure if this one would ever go sub 1 eth tbh

[turbid moss]

now imagine I open alpha mega d1sk and got a blazing rhamphre

holo

with drone background

ILV

[restive kettle]

And gz for the buy cause if he would have lowered it once more i would have surely bought it as well 😅

[restive kettle]

Very unlikely tho😂

[turbid moss]

yeah..

well.. everyone is looking

I am sure

now when are they going to start giving out 0.5 ILV per week

I need to recoup my spending

[minor merlin]

Read the pin post. Dev team gave a update.

[turbid moss]

oh

Tomorrow

aiming

[glad moss]

👋

[turbid moss]

What!!

sold 4 weeks ago 0.37100 ETH?

How the heck did that manage to happen?

someone didn't like it that much?

[tepid geyser]

People didn't know what they had back then.

[turbid moss]

4 weeks ago?

[tepid geyser]

Yep.

[turbid moss]

that was not long ago

OMG

gave away $2,000 USD

I hope I didn't over pay

[tepid geyser]

Way more. That background is 3,3. Worth way more than floor.

[turbid moss]

buyers remorse

oh T3S3

wow

The one I got was only T3S1

LOL

[tepid geyser]

t3, s1 is still a good bg. Pretty rare.

[turbid moss]

I actually like the background better

All the Tier 3

This one looks nice

[sturdy halo]

Those are nice.

[turbid moss]

the colour

background

It kind of matches my silly personality

Goofy

Who is Torrex? someone called TOrrex added me?

@still herald hi, did you DM me?

[zealous delta]

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Mods and Team members will never DM you.
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Support is not provided via DMs

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[turbid moss]

Thanks Mozart

guys do you know for the metal plate, should you print the most expensive illuvitar or the one I bonded that looks the coolest

metal plates aren't going to be worth anything collection wise right?

If it is, I might just put a Rhamphyre

[barren linden]

I think there is always a market for anything, not so long ago people were fighting over toilet paper! (who would have thought). Seriously though even if not many people know what an Illuvitar is yet, if they are looking for art pieces to display these may be worth something. I am getting my HOLO Fire Volante with Viking War paint printed because I think it looks awesome!

Also Logan Paul will need a bigger neck chain!!

[dim hamlet]

Logan Paul's next neck chain will be a digital NFT gadget that can display your NFT in color or black and white, just like the new Ledger Stax

[turbid moss]

wow.. is Illuvium going to look like this?

[minor merlin]

Move this to #1023650034593570917 it has nothing to do with Illuvium beyond. Thanks

[turbid moss]

okay

well.. it is how they will make games with Unreal engine

I think Illuvium is using UE5

[minor merlin]

Yes illuvium use unreal engine 5.

[turbid moss]

That is crazy

[turbid moss]

okay.. it would be someone 20 years from today

wearing your metal plate

[dim hamlet]

look at ledger stax, cool device

[turbid moss]

oh yeah. it is pretty neat but it is black and white

like kindle

[wide swan]

It’s not out yet right

Been waiting

[tawdry oxide]

nothing shows in album, anyone else experiencing this?

[valid sierra]

You could try to log out and log back in, that should fix it.

[tawdry oxide]

that worked, thx

[still herald]

Yep..hi 😁.. wanted to chat about some trades

[sharp sigil]

Congrats to @tepid geyser to become the first person to reach 1.6mil points 👏🎊🥳

[hasty grotto]

holly molly did they push the update already?

[sharp sigil]

Not yet

[frosty knot]

UAT Deployment successful, testing with the team.

[hasty grotto]

I wont move musch after the update anyway Idnot think

[sharp sigil]

It feels like the fix maybe only for @delicate delta ... 😂

[elfin summit]

So, we're gonna be above 500k points minimum for leaderboard it seems

[proven flicker]

That's a target I can aim for 👀

[delicate delta]

Don’t think this prediction will be too far off after the fix, still quite a few of us not even showing on the Leaderboards

[fathom frigate]

Can someone make my week and tell me rewards are going live?

[dreamy raven]

Rewards are going live

[tepid geyser]

[smoky verge]

burvvvvvv thats dope

[dreamy raven]

Pull or buy?

[topaz zodiac]

Hot damn that is a absolutely gorgeous Illuvitar!!

[dreamy cipher]

You're still having issues? Are your NFTs even in the wallet you are connecting?

[past totem]

you think he noob?

[dreamy cipher]

I am just amazed it has not been rersolved at this point.

[dreamy cipher]

also don't make accusations

[minor merlin]

Check the pin post. The testing the fix

[dreamy cipher]

Still amazing given I have been able to resolve ablum sleeving issues multiple times will common troubleshooting measures

[tepid geyser]

Just pulled from a mega. Super lucky

[restive kettle]

stop it Alexa.... i wanna save money for next wave...

now i have fomo again xD

[dreamy raven]

Shiiiiiat. SICK!

[tepid geyser]

Hehehehe I know the feeling. Every time I buy a batch of disks I say this will be the last lot now. Never is 😂 .

[restive kettle]

and do you think its still worth opening disks? do they avarage out in a win for you? just out of your gut feeling...

i mean ofc you cant sell all the stuff to get your roi immediately but just from the value of the illuvitars

[tepid geyser]

They do seem to average out quite nicely to be honest. The only issue is the market is not very liquid right now, so if you're looking for a quick exit, it's not a good strategy. You have to be willing to sit on them a while.

[restive kettle]

yeah thats what i thought... so its a gamble into possible future value right now, so it should have around the same result when i pick rare stuff off the market and hold them...

[tepid geyser]

I'd say so.

[restive kettle]

cause normally im not a gambler... illuvitars was a exception xD

[tepid geyser]

Any investment could be seen as gambling. It's all speculation at the end of the day. I just see it as diversifying my ILV portfolio and having fun doing it. Win win.

[restive kettle]

yeah the difference is just when i buy one eth i get one eth... when i buy one disk i may get stuff thats worth one disk but thats not guarantied it could be worth way less or even more... thats what i mean with gamble... the other thing is if you hold these things long term....

that could be seen as gamble i guess yeah

but if you count speculation on longterm price appreciation as gamble then you kinda do a double gamble with disks^^

ofc it prob evens out if you buy thouthands of disks but most ppl cant afford that xD

[tepid geyser]

Yes I agree, opening disks is far riskier and degenerate, but it sure is fun. As long as you don't YOLO all in on them it should be fine to have a bit of fun 😃

[restive kettle]

absolutely thats why i did it... plus if you believe in the project its a nobrainer to at least buy some since it also supports the funding right now

[tepid geyser]

Exactly 👍 It all helps to support the team/project so it's all good.

[coral moth]

I would say riskier yes degenerate no haha. By my calculations (NFA! I can’t guarantee they’re completely accurate), the opened value of disks is much higher than what you pay at the current moment.

[white vault]

As a counterpoint, I can say the last 15 mega disks I opened were so painfully awful it wasn't even close to being worth it. I had 3 disks giving me under $7 in value and others well under $40. Maybe I am the one that is giving everyone else the great hits, lol.

[restive kettle]

but wouldnt that mean that prices for sec market are too high and should come down soon? but i guess thats what were seeing already since everything is too expensive ppl are rather buying disks than buying from the sec market....

[tepid geyser]

Yep, people are going to have to start lowering prices or prepare to wait a long time.

[restive kettle]

the only way to really cash out at the moment is by listing something for like 30-50% under floor so that the bots buy it up xD

or if someone really wants something ofc but that seems to be pretty rare

[tepid geyser]

Always an option if you're desperate I suppose.

[rich elm]

I dont think prices are to high. The problem is that there is no demand and activity on the market.

Even if you put higher tier illuvitars below a floor they wont sell

[tepid geyser]

Can try it and see 😉

[restive kettle]

they will surely sell its all just about the price 😉

[rich elm]

There needs to be more interest and demand. It was when the rewards where announced.

[restive kettle]

wtb alpha rham paying 1eth 😉

[rich elm]

Since then the acitivty has been drying up

[rich elm]

lol i tried to sell my holo adoredo a few days for $1000 below the rest of the asking prices. Nobody buys it because there is no demand at the moment. And the whales probably all got one.

We just need some new hype. Surely that will come when new things get announced or the leaderbord gets active

Or when buying disks ends and you can only buy from the market

[tepid geyser]

Hype is not a sustainable business model. No-one bought because the price is too high. If the price was right demand would come in.

[shell socket]

Hi

[valid sierra]

Please use #🛒〕beyond-dex

[tired stone]

We just need the snapshot announcement and extend the leaderboard

[minor merlin]

it will come soon. they test the fixes right now.

[tepid geyser]

This will surely help.

[restive kettle]

Yeah well a holo normal expression t1 s1 bg adoredo for 1.5eth seems still overpriced if you compare it to the goliants

gol is listed for 1.1 and no one buys it why would you think a adoredo that costs way more would be a good deal?

[rich elm]

I listed it lower a week ago. But thats the point. Nobody buys anything at the moment .

[restive kettle]

if you really wanna sell it list it for 0.7 and its prob gone^^

[rich elm]

I'm sure that demand comes back

Just stating how the market is now

[restive kettle]

yeah youre right, also what im thinking is when i wanna buy stuff from the market why would i buy now when theres still 50 days left from the sale and prices will prob come down even more due to dilution

[rich elm]

We had an average of 1000 sales a day. Now its like 300 a day.

[restive kettle]

yeah cause most ppl got what they wanted and there are almost no good deals out there anymore since prices are kinda stuck

[rich elm]

The prices only come down for illuvitars that will get found easily and where there are alot of. As of now there are only 11 holo adoredo. That means only 11 people can have one.

[dreamy raven]

20* we counted last night

[restive kettle]

first of all there are 21 now and they get more and more each week^^

[dreamy raven]

So one have been opened today

Was it a nice expression?

[rich elm]

Aah yes i was looking at the market not the assets

[restive kettle]

think it was the one with the normal expression but t3 bg

and for only $30k you can call it yours xD

[rich elm]

'' Prices are bad and they suck''

and now he asks for 30k lol

[restive kettle]

lol its not mine^^

[dreamy raven]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-now-steal-take-grab-mine-gif-13196166

[tepid geyser]

That's a perfect example of why we are seeing less and less sales. Greed.

[rich elm]

lol i dont think its only that. There is no activity because no ones interested at the moment. You can see exactly what happened. There was hype around until the leaderboard needed fixing. After that supply and demand dropped.

I still think the tier 5 holo's listed now at around the same price are not priced to high. We just need time. When future updates come and more people are interested in the games the value of those will rise.

You got some that are priced way to high obviously, but they probably dont want to sell.

[tepid geyser]

It's not only that, you're right. Big factor though from what I can see.

[rich elm]

Plus there is almost no information on holo higher tier sales or rare illuvitars. Both holo goliant and holo adoredo are only sold 7 times each.

So the definition of the right price is hard to make

[haughty lark]

Whats the floor for t5 accessories

[tepid geyser]

Those rewards are not going to play as big of a factor as I think you'd like to believe.
We will find out for sure soon enough though. Will be interesting to see how things play out.

[restive kettle]

but theres a huge difference in pricing if you compare a holo focussed ador with a t2 bg for 1.77eth to a normal expr. with t1 bg for 1.9eth... so what would you say which one isnt priced correctly?

[rich elm]

Its not just the rewards. The rewards are a form of marketing. When there are by example future updates or when they announce in game rewards it creates interest or value for new people. We just need some more marketing to attract people.

[rich elm]

I think that focused one is listed pretty cheap

But who knows

Like i said we don't have a lot of data for these sales.

[tepid geyser]

We do but from the statement yesterday we shouldn't really be expecting anything major coming out in the short term, it appears as though Beyond is going to be taking a bit of a back seat whilst the majority effort is going onto getting the main releases out on time.

[restive kettle]

exactly im more of the opinnion that the normal ones are too expensive... but yeah we will see

[rich elm]

What would you say the normal ones are worth?

[restive kettle]

less than the focussed xD

more around the around where the goliants are i guess

[rich elm]

goliants and adoredo are the same in terms of how hard to get, so i can agree that there pricing should be the same.

I tried to sell mine a week for 2k, maybe something slightly above. Still no buyers though. Like i said there is almost no demand.

[dreamy raven]

Every price is just a function of marginal demand/supply. No correct price. Just a price

[rich elm]

As you can see there is not much data and almost no activity for these rare ones.

These are all the holo tier 5 sales. Only 24 sold so far.

[dreamy raven]

That radiant adoredo is such a steal 😅

Jealous every time I see it

[rich elm]

The stage 3 background you mean right?

[restive kettle]

well considering that theres only 100 t5 holos out there 24 sales is actually quite a lot xD

[rich elm]

With 6000 wallets?

Dunnow man.

[dreamy raven]

Yeah

[rich elm]

But my point is more that there is not an accurate pricing for these

[restive kettle]

thats true yes, also since theres alphas/non alphas different expressions and a whole lot of different backgrounds... thats a huge part of why pricing is so difficult imo

[rich elm]

Yup. Its still early. In the future there will be more data for these things.

And 3 eth is nothing if you compare it to floor prices on opensea

Within 50 days those badboys can never be minted again

[restive kettle]

except ppl buy thousands of disks at the end of the sale^^

compared to opensea stuff where theres most of the time only 10.000 total supply

or even less

but yeah different category ofc

[rich elm]

That makes a rare illuvitar even worth more . If you got a 1/1 with now 250.000 illuvitars minted. It means there is only a chance of 1 of 250.000 to get that.

So that value only should go up how more is minted.

[solemn blade]

Unless 250,001 makes it a 1/2 😄

[restive kettle]

yeaht the value of the extreme rare ones... but the rest goes down

[rich elm]

Yep. But tier 5 holo's will keep being rare if you look at the numbers.

Just curious. Do you guys think this is less valuable or more valuable then a basic background holo adoredo? For now it is still a 1/1.

[restive kettle]

hard to tell... you would need to run the numbers to tell how much more rare/ less rare it is... but even then its hard to say if ppl are willing to pay that much more....

[dreamy raven]

I would rather have this than the basic adoredo

[restive kettle]

yeah also think so, thats why i made sure i got some with rare bg and some high tier holos.... just a good mix of everything 😄

and rare expressions ofc....

[solemn blade]

holo adoredo common expression with T1 S1 background is
adoredo 1/1333.333
holo, common expression, t1/s1 background w/ modifier chance of 28.241904% or 1/3.54 1.486% or 1/67.28
Total chance is 1 in 4,720 89,706.
(would help if I read my own posts... HOLO doesn't use color odds)

Slashin was 0.2182% chance or 1/458.
That's a color uncommon expression, T5 S3 background with a modifier chance of 0.010973% (1 in 9113.69)
Total chance of pull is 1 in 4,177,107.6.

TLDR: T5 S3 backgrounds are CRAZY rare. Only 32 illuvitars have been minted with this background.
Max 32 people can complete that background album right now.

[restive kettle]

im counting 109 t5 s3 bgs but im sure youre calculation is right....

[solemn blade]

DOH only 32 are listed I'm a doofus

stupid "buy" filter got me again

but yes the math part is 100% right

[rich elm]

My man. You are good with math. So this is a 1 in 4.000.000 pull thats more crazy then i tought 😵

[restive kettle]

and now calculate that for a radiant adoredo with a t2 s3 bg....

holo

or the holo blazing rham with the t3 s2 bg

i guess these ones are even more rare

[solemn blade]

Remember that record selling Rhamphyre?
1/4000
Rare expression, holo, T3 S2 background for modifier of 0.006699% or 1/14,927
Total chance 1/59,708,000
So Slashin is 1/15th as rare.

[restive kettle]

thats crazy^^

[solemn blade]

1/1333.333
Holo, rare expression, T3 S2 T2 S3 modifier is 1/12,732
1/16,975,995 for radiant holo adoredo w/ T3 S2 T2 S3

crap I went dyslexic, sec

[burnt ferry]

Clim Rank 47 and missing 12k Points from my sing

Would you hold ore better try to sell a Rainbow Partyglas

And reinvest

[rich elm]

Those are some sick numbers.

[solemn blade]

yeah it's wild, based on the number of d1sks we sold we could have gone like 5, 10, 15+ waves before seeing a T5 S3 that rare and we got it in the first half of wave 1.

[rich elm]

I got it in a standard disk also lol

[solemn blade]

that's even nicer, the mega d1sks mess up the rarities and I have no idea how to math that out.

[rich elm]

Where do you get the first number from?

for the illuvitar?

Im curious about this one since its also a 1/1

Background 4 stage 2

[rich elm]

Maybe wait till the leaderbord is fixed and announced. But up to you.

[solemn blade]

Tier of illuvial is rolled.
Then all of the illuvials in that wave in that tier are thrown in a pot together, where S1 has a 9 weight, S2 has a 3 weight, and S3 has a 1 weight. So chances change depending on how many of what tier/stages are in the waves.

So for instance if you roll a T1 (66.9% chance) then you have a 1/37 chance of getting Axodon as well. 9/37 of getting Atlas. 3/37 of Axon.

[solemn blade]

common expression aye?

[rich elm]

Do you have those sheets for all illuvitars?

[rich elm]

yep its the common one

[solemn blade]

for wave 1 yes. I need to put in the work and get a little analytics site up.

[solemn blade]

virtuous floralynx 1/60.8365
Common exp, holo, T4 S2 = 1/8488.24
1/516,394

[worthy tide]

whats the chance of pulling a goofy s2 s1 background ?

[rich elm]

Since the slashin is 1000 times as rare as holo adoredo that means i need to list it for atleast 1.00.000 🧐 😂

[worthy tide]

t2 s1*

[rich elm]

This also means that the rhamphyer was a steal lol

[rich elm]

Still pretty rare. As i thought.

[solemn blade]

yeah he sold it super quick, but he wanted quick money. very low number of people could even buy it tbh.
I would have advertised it, asked the Illuvium team to build an auction livestream event around it.

[rich elm]

That is a great idea

Maybe they could do that with multiple rare ones if people are into it.

[rich elm]

I can understand why he sold it though. That can be life changing money for some.

[rich elm]

Since you are good with math maybe you know. The stats of slashin are saying 0,5% of getting penguin, vanguard, frost, so that means 0,5% chance of a slashin of any kind i think? And is this in your calculation?

Maybe those things say nothing. But i had to ask lol.

[solemn blade]

Yeah I'm not sure what they're trying to represent there. Not my calcs. I don't know that there's any value in the percentage chance of getting "frost" or "vanguard"... but I suppose since there's only one slashin and if he's the only frost and the only vanguard they should all have the same chance.

[worthy tide]

is there any kind of rarity calculator that you can just paste your illuvitar id into it and it will do the rest ?

[solemn blade]

There will be if I ever get off my lazy butt and stop testing video games.

[sick dock]

that would be awesome !

[worthy tide]

id really really appreciate that sir :)) but take your time !

[sick dock]

whats the chance of my alpha holo suspiciuss squizz t1 s1 ?

[rich elm]

That would help mature the market more to what things are worth. I said from the beginning people are sleeping on the backgrounds. Specially the tier 5 stage 3.

[solemn blade]

see this is how you guys get me to do the work. keep spamming me with requests for numbers until I get tired of it, then I go make a page to automate that work for me.

alpha doesn't affect odds.
squizz = 1/444.4444
uncommon holo T1 S1 bg = 1/134.55
1/59,800

[rich elm]

That seems off. You said the adoredo was 1/4,720 or did you forget a 0 there?

[solemn blade]

baller tho whoever has this

[rich elm]

There are more holo squizzes then there are holo adoredo's?

aah wait

its the uncommon squizz

😶

[solemn blade]

oh that adoredo I didn't notice was supposed to be holo

odd since I wrote holo multiple times in the post

even when I saw the final odds I said "that looks right for a non-holo adoredo"

[rich elm]

😂

Can i hire your brain for sniping some rare illuvitars?

[solemn blade]

1/89,706 for holo adoredo common expression T1S1 bg.
See this is why I need a site, completely eliminate human error.

[rich elm]

That seems more logical.

[sick dock]

we need some page wich makes top tier rarest illuvitars or something like this.. this would make peapol wanna buy more too try to get them

[solemn blade]

I need to dive into immutable X API tbh, I have no idea how to use it.

[rich elm]

To bad the slashin isn't worth 1mil then. But if we take in account the cost of a holo adoredo between 1000$ to 2000$. Its still worth something in the range of 40 to 80k

Sooooooo. Who wants to buy it? 😂

[rich elm]

There are some good ideas here. Also love the idea from Keiser to have an auction stream where people can sell there rare ones.

Good for marketing also

[burnt ferry]

Why cant WE See the Albums of the Others Players

Would ben cool

[rich elm]

The illuvitar team should pay this guy to make something like that 😜

[still herald]

public albums will be a feature in future updates

[worthy tide]

i feel bad for asking but whats the odds of a holo mad slashin T1S2 bg. ? <33 out of a mega

[rich elm]

He is calculating the standard odds of getting one. Not taking into account a mega i think.

I'm also curious of one more lol. A Holo Dauntless Air Doka with a backround stage 2 or 3.

Those tier 0 are hard to get xD

[solemn blade]

It's incredibly hard to come up with mega numbers. They never released how much power the variations give, but mega is based on a power threshold.
Now that we have released power numbers and a good amount of data. I could probably figure out base power of every illuvial and how much boost every possible variation can give, then start doing additives to figure out what the possibilities are.

[worthy tide]

no worries man 🙂 would you beable to calculate a goofy rhamphyre T1S2 bg. ? i actually pulled that out of a standard alpha d1sk on the second day or something, understand if you dont have time tho ❤️

[solemn blade]

Slashin 1/458.3333
Holo mad (rare) T1 S2 bg = 1/1209.22
Total 1/554,225

[worthy tide]

thanks so much ❤️

[solemn blade]

I didn't really do T0 odds because they're not very complicated. T0s should all be equal I suppose, and they only have one background tier, so 1/25 * holo 1/20 * stage 2 23.10% or stage 3 7.7%
Stage 2 - 1/2,164
Stage 3 - 1/6,493

[solemn blade]

rhamphyre 1/4000
color goofy (uncommon) T1 S2 = 1/21.21
1/84,840

[worthy tide]

0_0

i dont think ive ever been so lucky with anything in my entire life tbh lol

[rich elm]

This is why we need your calculations in an app or something lol. This means that slashin that i got is around 50 times as rare as a goofy rhamphyre.

They sell for around 3k. I had that slashin up for 3k for a long time..

Nobody bought it lol

Guess i have to be glad about it 😂

[worthy tide]

def worth holding onto it

[rich elm]

@timber apex @late cradle @plain rover Pay this guy to make a rarity calculator for you guys 👀

[solemn blade]

lol I'm sure Aaron already has something like that

[rich elm]

Dunnow about that. Just trying to help you get paid if not 😜

[rich elm]

Depends on what somebody wants to pay for it on short term. Always open to negotiate. But not for 3k anymore lol.

[tepid geyser]

Hey, I pulled this one earlier today, can you work your magic and let me know the odds please

Would be awesome if you did create an app, i'm sure it would become a staple tool for many here.

[rich elm]

I'm curious about this badboy to 👆

[solemn blade]

my goodness...
nimble lynx 1/20.27883
holo charged (rare) T5 S3 bg (the rarest possible combination...) a meager 0.000193% or 1/519,480.52
1/10,534,457
only like 1/6 as rare as that rhamphyre

basically: we did not expect to see that illuvitar. ever.

so that is the highest tier T5 S3 bg holo rare expression illuvitar in existence

[rich elm]

The only rare expression holo T5 S3

[solemn blade]

nah two archies and an atlas, but all others are T1

[rich elm]

There is someone with a Holo Grinning Arcane Emberlynx

with that background

[worthy tide]

bond it with all t5 s3 for leaderboard 😛

[solemn blade]

yeah 5 uncommon expression ones

[rich elm]

Im curious to see whats rarer the Holo Grinning Arcane Emberlynx or this lynx?

[tepid geyser]

So to say that was a lucky pull is a bit of an understatement. Crazy. Thanks man, appreciate your help 👍

[rich elm]

Nice pull man!

[solemn blade]

same odds I'd say. nimble lynx has weight of 3 compared to weight 1 of emberlynx so 3x as common, but expression is 3x rarer.

[rich elm]

This is why people where sleeping on the backgrounds. Some sick numbers to pull rarer ones.

[solemn blade]

HOWEVER there's 4x as many types of T2 S3 lynxes as S2... so technically you have a harder chance of getting the nimble lynx as opposed to trying to get any one of the S3 lynxes if you don't care which.

[rich elm]

There is one rarer with this background i think. Somebody has a Suspicious Squizz with this background.

That could be rarer then the nimble lynx

non holo though

[coral moth]

Is this something people might want to see on the illuvialmaster site? You guys seem to really like it

[tepid geyser]

Absolutely

[worthy tide]

i was actually thinking that earlier

[wide swan]

would be amazing

[sharp sigil]

Can i assume that Illuvial master has enough data now to reflect the accurate price of our illuvitars? Or should i assume little less value than illuvial master suggest?

[tepid geyser]

They can be over or under, I dont think theres enough sales data on the rarer ones to be accurate.

[rich elm]

Yeah i think it will really for people to know what they have and help mature the market.

Illuvial master has not enough data for prices

[sharp sigil]

Also i believe alpha illuvitar values might be changing in near future

[coral moth]

I think they are pretty accurate is the vast majority of cases, but we can never be 100% accurate. The things that we are the worst at right now is the extremely rare. For obvious reasons haha. Lots of super rare illuvitars have 0 sales data. So it has to guess based on the data “around” that illuvitar.

If you see the floor at 2x what the estimated price says it’s likely that those are just not selling for that amount.

[worthy tide]

i wonder how people would feel if alphas had a 5% power buff i feel like its opening a can of worms changing stuff in some ways though

[rich elm]

Probably cant be changed and in my opinion should not be changed. I can ask the same for the rare backgrounds. They are rarer then holo's but lack the power of holo's. \

Alpha will get a alpha stamp right?

[sharp sigil]

I am interested in alpha collection competition and feature to make accessories visible/invisible specifically to have. Just saying

[elder pawn]

this is probably my rarest if not the blazing rhampy

[onyx briar]

Rare and has a nice color background to match

[rich elm]

People will probably buy that sooner then mine because they think its rarer. Still a nice Slashin though 👌

Blazing Rham is rarer i think

[timber apex]

We put out a guide to help you calculate rarity already.

[rich elm]

Lol thats not the same as to what this guy is doing. We are not all mathematical wonders who can easily calculate that.

[agile kayak]

Multiplying fractions is pretty rough.

[minor merlin]

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-beyond-set-1-wave-one-buyers-guide

[coral moth]

We’ll have this done on illuvialmaster soon, in the details screen of your collection 👍

[rich elm]

Thnx man apricate the work !

[rich elm]

Why highlight this when i already responded its not the same? 🙃

[minor merlin]

I showed what guide Aaron is talking about. Not directly answered you😉

[coarse sand]

not sure how to put a picture from Illuvial master in here, but I got 3 illuvial that I spent over 1000$ that are evaluated below 400$, I would not base myself on their evaluation

[rich elm]

Sorry man just got a little bit frustrated from the easy answer from Aaron '' We already have a guide ''

[minor merlin]

All good buddy.

[rich elm]

I think when the community is doing shit for the game which is helpful it should be appreciated instead of whipped off.

[minor merlin]

Leak from Kieran👀🔥

[rich elm]

Whuuuut is thizzz?

[minor merlin]

Maybe one from wave 2🤷‍♂️

[rich elm]

Looks sick

I already want that baby rhamphyre

😂

[normal steeple]

Has limbs instead of wings 😉

[rich elm]

He will be next on the kfc menu

The rhamphyre baby burger

[normal steeple]

kukka of wave2

[past tundra]

I would think that The tier5 stage 1 rhampy would be equivalent to the t5 stage 1 squizz.

[tepid geyser]

According to the stats on Tokentrove, the Rham is 5x rarer than the Squizz 0.1%, compared to 0.5%.

[rich elm]

He means that new one he just posted. Its a stage 1 Rham.

[tepid geyser]

Hehehe right, missed that one.

[past tundra]

Yeah the stage 3 rhamphyre we have now is certainly rarer.

The interesting thing with the rarities is that the mega disk mechanic pulls higher point values at a rate that is not entirely natural.

I have not run any numbers but I’d guess that the ratio of holo lynx to non-holo lynx is skewed. It would still fit within the mega disk reroll mechanic but just at a higher ratio than what many other Illuvitars would have. I could certainly be wrong though.

[restive kettle]

But the real question is what will be the rhamphyre of wave 2? The next t5 s3....

I hope its ophisto

[rich elm]

I heard people say it could be the stage 3 of adoredo

but dunnow

[restive kettle]

Anyone knows how many t5 illuvials are there at set 1?

Just the different lines...

[tired stone]

Wow Kieren's tweet got me fired up!

"Things are coming to Illuvium: Beyond that are much bigger than just leaderboard rewards. And even bigger than skins emotes, and exclusive battle boards for finishing collections." 👀

[frosty knot]

This is nearly complete, tentatively planned for next week.

[young tide]

Rewards from the ladderboard are also planned for next week or this week ?

[frosty knot]

To be confirmed by Admins, as soon as this fix for Leaderboards/Album is live on Prod we will conduct some testing and expedite the start of rewards no doubt.

More details to come. I am but a humble servant

[wide swan]

Lies

Nick is the man

The go to guy

[topaz zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/goat-gif-22057358

[umbral holly]

anyone know why i have no illuvitars to fill. the wallet is connected and i cannot fill my albums

[coral moth]

@rich elm @sharp sigil @tepid geyser @worthy tide Change is live! (Make sure you refresh if you already have a tab)

[sharp sigil]

Can we have sort based on rarity/exact chance ?

[fast warren]

The tier 0's in this wave 1 release are done right, not coming back?

[umbral holly]

Tier 0 will be the same for every wave.

[runic glade]

surely there are some 1/200k or more chance that are worth like $4

[pseudo holly]

Not mine, just showing for the rarity ...

[wide swan]

I delisted lol

[umbral holly]

is it possible to set all the illuvitars in all albums within one go

[past tundra]

I don’t think so. Only album by album

[umbral holly]

cool thanks, thought i better ask first 🙂

[pseudo holly]

Shit, I should have bought it. What was the price? 🙂 Okay, just saw it.

[wide swan]

Tryin to rug me

[pseudo holly]

Illuvitars are by far the best digital collectibles available today. I think we still underestimate what will happen once the rest of the NFT space notices this project and then the real world collectors come in ...

[pseudo holly]

My Rhamphyre just has a 1/10.721.992 rarity, but it has the Crimson Waste Nexus background. Once collectors take into consideration the background region matching the Illuvials home region its rarity could be even higher.

[remote saddle]

Loving the updates

[restive kettle]

Rarest one i pulled

And thx @coral moth for this new awesome tool

[umbral holly]

is that exact chance 1.4mill?

[coral moth]

It’s our pleasure! Love seeing all the people sharing their rarest illuvitars.

[restive kettle]

Does similar chance mean the same everything just a different bg color?

[coral moth]

It excludes background entirely.

So just illuvial + finish + expression

Well. Alpha too for the count, not the rarity as there’s no odds on alpha, it either comes from an alpha D1Sk or not

[restive kettle]

Ah ok, but then its not very similar since the bg does make a huge difference sometimes 😅

[coral moth]

I guess you can make that argument haha.

[restive kettle]

But still interesting to know so its good 👍

[restive kettle]

And the exact match does that count colors as well or just the background tier and stage?

So if you count bg colors would the excact match be 5x lower or is that already in the formular?

But i guess not since t5 s3 bg only has one color and t5 s2 only 3

[coral moth]

Color is not included

[restive kettle]

Wait so that would make the excact match with the right bg color 5x more harder to get than just any of them right?

If there are 5 colors for that specific bg...

[pseudo holly]

And with matching Nexus 7x harder

[restive kettle]

So i got only the second rarest kukka but if you consider color it should be more rare... and the number kinda reflect that since there are 2 t5 s3 bg ones and only one t5 s1 in purple

And also it has more power bc its paranoid ofc

[onyx briar]

Done

[elder pawn]

does anyone think these values are over inflated? or a lot more room to grow. So will more users make these that much more valuable?

Here's my win from 200 silv2 from beginning of the wave.

so if we're looking at rarity, the other ones above totally win out in scarcity and so does the value correlate?

but of course, the market is very illiquid. and so it's only worth as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

[restive kettle]

well you can not only take the rarity of the specific illuvitar into consideration i think, you also need to to count the total supply of the illuvitar... i mean yeah my kukka is more rare but since theres 20k kukkas or so i dont think its worth more than a blazing rham....not even close tbh xD

[elder pawn]

just looking the calculus of figuring how far a Blazing Phampyre will be anywhere in value of a classic gem 10 charizard.

and you have to say this is all in a bear market.

[restive kettle]

yeah i could imagine prices going lower especially on the not so rare ones in the future... but once the game lauches, more waves come out and the bull market comes back again we should def see higher prices... nfa^^

[elder pawn]

$5-10 K each month to keep up with you fuckers. I know it! LOL

[fathom frigate]

is there anywhere to view the townhall?

or listen to it?

[pseudo holly]

I would expect even very common Illuvitars, but with extreme rarity because of background to be traded as true collector items in the future.

When I think about Illuvitars I see lots of PFP projects rolled into one e.g. as if BAYC, MAYC and BAKC were all in one NFT collection.

If for some reason e.g. the Asian community falls into love with Kukkas, they might treat these Illuvitars as basically their own NFT collection and could easily value a very rare Kukka higher than a Rhamphyre with a low tier, bad looking background.

Especially if the community is so large that the number of Kukkas minted isn't even enough to give everyone a simple Kukka.

And don't forget our community is predominantly male based in the moment, but once we get mainstream collectors and increase the female/kids percentage, Illuvitars like Kukka or Vermillia might see a huge increase in interest.

[topaz hollow]

Does everyone in leaderboard have a full collection on everything, and all in holo ?

I wonder how hard it will be to get top 100

Should be nice to have a function to try Illuvitars in album collections to se what points you get, so you can plan your buys

[dreamy raven]

Nope. I’m in 100 and don’t even have a rhampyre

[restive kettle]

Kukka for Asian Rahmphyre 👍

Nice way to think of it...

[pseudo holly]

I mean Kukka is an extreme example, but a Tier 2 or Tier 3 ...

[turbid moss]

KFC

[pseudo holly]

We have Illuvials from all regions of the world and some will take off in those regions

[restive kettle]

no poor kukkas

[pseudo holly]

Just look at all those Kukkas with great backgrounds and then the few Rhamphyres with good backgrounds, there isn't even one with a T5 background at the moment.

[turbid moss]

KFD

Fried dragons

[turbid moss]

Not many with the tier 3 compared to other types of illuvitars

Goofy dragon is cute

I don’t really know how much is it really worth.

I guess no one knows

[restive kettle]

yeah i mean theres only 139 rhams at all atm

and only 55 alphas...

[turbid moss]

So you think by the end we will have 300 rhamphyre

[restive kettle]

maybe i shouldnt sell mine^^

[turbid moss]

I’ll buy it

For 0.5 ETH

Sold

[restive kettle]

its listed atm... cheapest alpha currently^^

[turbid moss]

Right.

Let me see

I need an alpha rhamphyre

[restive kettle]

fuck me now im not so sure anymore if i should sell it xD

you think i have undercut the market a bit too much?

i guess i could raise it a bit higher...

[rich elm]

That was fast. Thnx for this awsome feature ❤️

[turbid moss]

What feature

Hi garf. 700,000

[smoky verge]

The first wave had a lot of hype around it. The second wave will continue with the current hype and the game will still not be in the beta version. You could sell your rhamphyre to ape into wave 2... nfa but you cóuld i guess.

[turbid moss]

For top 100 still happening

[turbid moss]

Nah

[smoky verge]

I dont have too many strong Accessories. So ill just see how things go.

[turbid moss]

You are keeping up

[smoky verge]

Eh, ive just been buying some T0s but im not actively trying to keep up xD

[turbid moss]

I feel like I need to do some bondage action to keep up

600,000 action. Alexa is like at 1.6 mil

Or is he at 2 mil

I wake up and he is at 10 mil

[restive kettle]

i guess ill leave it there for a day or so and if nobody wants it i go up with price again or unlist....

[rich elm]

Curious to see what this all means 🤔👽

[restive kettle]

i guess we can soon buy KFC illuvitars and get cheaper chicken nuggets

or kukka nuggets?

[pseudo holly]

So many ideas

[wide swan]

The one today was election based for epoch 8, it will be uploaded soon, the previous one with Aaron is uploaded

[wide swan]

https://tenor.com/view/he-literally-just-copy-me-kassandra-lee-he-imitated-me-he-obviously-copied-me-hes-a-copycat-gif-18166922

I delisted my Goliant so fast

[wide swan]

I'm gonna fall off leaderboard lol

[hasty grotto]

if ever a toy story iluvitar I going to "infinity and Byond" .....sorry couldnt resist the pun

[wide swan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067151104997068933/1072280903398723624/beyond_5.gif

[hasty grotto]

yup that one

[restive kettle]

haha yeah i would have also not listed it for 5eth xD

i was already tempted to buy it^^

[hasty grotto]

Good job I havent list'd my pfp its woth more than anything sold so far ....gulp

[rich elm]

You had for 5 eth or something like that? I can understand that you delisted that badboy.

[elder pawn]

good save.

[restive kettle]

god damn should have bought it xD

at least i have my alpha holo goliant^^

[rich elm]

Love this new feature from illuvialmasters. Just checked all the rare slashin and mine seems to be the most rare for now.

[elder pawn]

that's hella rare

its a T5 S3 BG

[rich elm]

This one comes close but thats it.

[elder pawn]

this is highest I have in exact match odds.

[restive kettle]

not mine but its closer than the other one

[fathom frigate]

when wave 1 ends its game over and rarity will skyrocket

personally I have no way of collecting double items

so whoever has duplicates has a fair chance of making bank

[elder pawn]

it's hard to get dups of anything high tiers

[fathom frigate]

agreed

and the investment can be quite substantial

[elder pawn]

the person who has dup rhamphyres is sitting pretty

totally