🎮〕illuvium-beyond

[rancid bison]

$8.2M including both alpha d1sks selling out

If there arent whales that scoop them all up I will

thats not including silv2 discount

[alpine dew]

would make for good PR so lets hope so

[rancid bison]

Are there limits to how many you can buy at once?

[minor merlin]

#814313779696238642 message

[rancid bison]

Are you saying that should be asked in #814313779696238642

?

[minor merlin]

no it should be saying, rich give the answer there. 😄

[valid sierra]

He gave you the answer to your question ser. Thank you for visiting Illuvium, we hope you have a wonderful day

[compact bone]

Can you filter for Backgrounds on the Iluvidex?

[compact bone]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-will-ferrell-awesome-gif-14597941

[flint field]

Ok so I was told the event details will show the time of events based on my ip address location but my event detail for Illuvium beyond says 10am. Problem is 8am UTC is 3am Eastern Standard Time. What am I missing?

[tiny moss]

Price are same for alphas and normal disks ? 🙂

[night basalt]

no sir, alphas are a bit more expensive 🙂

[tiny moss]

Nice thank you 🙂 Do you know the price in Silv2 for the alphas please ? 🙂

[night basalt]

not sure who did this ( @light jacinth ?) you can check it here
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aiB8mpyRnwLuoXAjNWzGwCco13aG6yatha2bUwY8xPE/edit#gid=0

[tiny moss]

It's not official pricing ?

thank's will check it

[night basalt]

in ETH is official, rest is based/calculated from current market prices

[light jacinth]

official

[tiny moss]

But for mega disks in sIlv2 it's an estimation right ? The amount of sILV2 or ETH used to buy illuvitars won't move right ? Just the value of it until 7th march ?

[light jacinth]

sILV2 will move based on ETH/ILV

[tiny moss]

Ok so the day of 7 th march it could not be 2.43 sILV2 / mega disks ?

[light jacinth]

could be if if prices of ETH and ILV are exactly like they are today

[tiny moss]

Oh ok ^^ If ETH/ILV is pumping we will need less sILV2 and opposite right ?

[light jacinth]

You would want ILV to pump and ETH to drop if you want the most value out of your sILV2

[tiny moss]

Seems to happening rn :3 ! Thank you for your answers guys ❤️

Will you give us an update of this spreadsheets just before Illuvitars sale ? :3

[light jacinth]

it updates automatically

[tiny moss]

GOAT

Thank you ❤️

Have a good day/night fam i must go, see ya

[rancid bison]

Transaction fees for the sale will be 2% IMX and 3% Illuvium just like with land?

[solemn blade]

that's only for secondary market. I don't recall there being any fee for landsale other than the purchase price (and at that time we had the L1 transaction cost).

[past tundra]

No fees for minting. Just pay the cost.

[potent tulip]

pulling 2 lynxes in 1 draw, not bad :}

[last notch]

wait im confused these pictures not in wave one or am i wrong?

[compact bone]

Are these in the first wave?

[tired stone]

I’m assuming this is a mega D1sk. What’s the power rating of those?

[solemn blade]

Looks like you're simulating Overworld nicely. I've seen so many encounters with 5+ lynxes.

[alpine dew]

those a Alphas correct? love the Alpha logo btw who designed it?

[frosty knot]

Florian ser

[frosty knot]

Yes

[twilit bramble]

Oh i see so the first edition of illuvitars will be called Alpha

And they have a limited supply of 20k and 100k respectively right?

This is the 1st edition advantage for the early birds right?

Apart of that is there other advantages to being an early bird? I heard something about first three days had some sort of bonus

Besides the alpha stamp all else is the same right? Thanks

One thing i want to recommend for the alpha is that

One of the core use cases for illuvitars can be pfps, an online identity, if the alpha stamp, somehow makes the pfp look more unique, then it will be more attractive as a pfp, giving more incentive to get an alpha illuvitar, just a suggestion

Also is it cheaper to buy d1sks in silv2 or eth

Would price fluctuate, better to load up eth or silv2 today? Thanks fam

[alpine dew]

yes to pretty much all your questions.

[alpine dew]

and yes buying in silv2 is cheaper atm. come to sale silv2 might equal ILV and then it wont be any cheaper than to just buy with ETH

[royal anvil]

Will we get more info before the launch on this especially the goals?

[barren bobcat]

If it looks different though, then it becomes a variant, or a different finish, not a first edition. Which complicates the collection aspect

[reef charm]

can we see the holo?

updated one

[alpine dew]

Hey Nick why no love for the Americans on the time that is set for Illuvitar launch? 2am on an Tuesday night? My work wont like me coming in as a zombie from no sleep 🤣 . Also atm you cannot hook up your metamask to Illuvidex using phone will this be fixed before sale?

[frosty knot]

Blog Post on the 6th sir!

[frosty knot]

I'm sure Dan feels the same, wish we could share but we're holding fire until the first is minted on mainnet

Sworn to secrecy

[frosty knot]

Technically yes, you can purchase via Mobile/Tablet, BUT our feeling is the experience isn't great (yet) due to factors beyond our control (MetaMask, IMX, WalletConnect etc)

So while it is possible, we're not officially supporting or recommending Mobile

[alpine dew]

that makes sense

[reef charm]

oof...the agony, its going to make it that much more suspenseful gdi! I love it!!!

[frosty knot]

I was screenshotting them to Kieran earlier like... 'wtf, how good does this look now'

so it's definitely that level of improvement 😆

[royal anvil]

Ill get our graphics designer ready to make material 😉

[half lance]

Did anyone have problems with Transfer silv2 from MetaMask to Immutable X, I may missed the answers! MetaMask does not have the option to transfer silv2, but only ETH to IlluviDEX wallet. Immutable deposit function is taking forever. Thanks!!!

[inner moat]

Guys i want to ask.
I have .1 SILV2 in my IMX wallet and that amount is not enough to buy an Alpha Mega Disk.
Can I just add the remaning amount in ETH to my IMX wallet.
And still buy 1 Aplha Mega Disk with those 2 token?

.9SILV2 correction

[keen plank]

you can't buy with different tokens added together unfortunately

the amount must be all in one currency for each purchase

[inner moat]

Thanks for the reply Tar.
So there is no other way to convert my SILv2 to ETH or USDC .
To maximize the use ofy SILv2 😦

[keen plank]

unfortunately inside IMX it is not possible to swap the tokens, what you can do is buy sILV2 to complete in sILV2 to add to what you already have inside or withdraw the sILV2 and transform it into ETH and then deposit

you have to analyze the gas fee to see what you will spend less

[inner moat]

My best route is to buy more SILv2 to add insidey IMX wallet.

Last question @keen plank
Where do I buy SILv2 tokens?
I got my in staking.

I got my SILv2 in staking rewards.
I dont know any exchange that sells SILv2

[minor merlin]

@inner moat
You can swap on uniswap. Use the address from #🔗〕helpful-links for silv2

[inner moat]

Thankgou so much for the help 🙂

[minor merlin]

Your welcome

[elder pawn]

my 2 cents is that the Alpha stamp shows up in your PFP or just really stand out if it's just cosmetic benefits

[past tundra]

You could try using magic wallet. Not sure if that would work well.

[dire arrow]

Really hoping that buy now feature on the collections will fuel secondary

[past tundra]

I’m thinking it’s gotta help

[hasty oracle]

how do you transfer silv2 from metamask to imx wallet?

guys are you depositing your silv2 into the imx wallet before march 7th?

[alpine dew]

you just deposit it like you would eth

I do it from my metamask web browser app connected to IMX no problem

[hasty oracle]

will you transfer this now or wait until march 7th?

[alpine dew]

Now, already have in fact

[hasty oracle]

gotcha you are all set then!

[hasty oracle]

and it takes about 20 min to see the transfer from mm to imx ?

[alpine dew]

thats about how long it took for mine maybe a little less

[hasty oracle]

cool thx!

[alpine dew]

takes around $5 in gas I think it was so I would do it all at once to save money

[hasty oracle]

gotcha!

[high jolt]

no issue for me. on the illuvidex site click on your imx wallet (top right), select deposit, click select tokens, then click the "select another token" drop down and select "silv2" and enter amount to complete the deposit process. takes a few minutes for the deposit to be credited to your imx wallet after the txn has been confirmed on eth

[hasty oracle]

ok cool i gonna try now

[hasty oracle]

when you do this and the eth is approved and completed does the imx screen show like a spinning circle for 15 min?

i get an error message that says cannot estimate gas and then it closes the transaction

i already paid a gas fee to in the mm one time and it says transaction success on mm

but on imx i get an error

what does code 2003 on imx mean?

[tender chasm]

Im the only one here that likes more the discord stickers than the illuvitars?

[hasty oracle]

how come i get a 2003 error code on my imx deposit order?

[tender chasm]

Try restarting your browser and try again

[past tundra]

Clearing browser cache might help.

Generally we recommend using IMX's Discord for IMX specific support. Error Code 2003 in IMX's documentation recommendation is to retry the deposit. You can find IMX's website in #🔗〕helpful-links - It has links to IMX's Discord.

[high jolt]

sounds like this was the approval (to spend silv2) tnx that got approved and the wallet is having issues with the second txn, the one that actually sends the silv2 to the imx bridge. as others have suggested try clearing your browser cache or restarting your machine, or even switching to a different browser completely - i find i have to do that sometimes when using MM and have problems on chrome but for some reason it works with firefox and vice versa at times.

[hasty oracle]

ok i was able to get the transaction to go thru as inputed the silv2 amount incorrectly. the 2nd transaction was successful but on my imx token balances the silv2 token you cannot see it. is there a way to add the token the imx screen?

[high jolt]

i'm new to imx too. the only way i found i could see is in the withdraw option and under "select another token"

[hasty oracle]

oh you're right!!! i see it in the withdraw token screen! thank you!

this means that the silv2 is in the imx wallet i am assuming!!!

[glossy fjord]

hi guys, if I wanted to buy an ''alfa mega d1sk'' how can I do it on the official website I only see the d1sk and the mega d1sk but I can't find the alpha ones

[night basalt]

before the sell start they will update the website, and you will have option to buy them

[frosty knot]

We'll be deploying Backend, Blockchain, Frontend components March 7th to add drastic changes to the IlluviDex

[split solar]

OMG trade functionality?

[valid sierra]

No

[frosty knot]

Bids/Offers is in a limited state with IMX currently 😦

It's something we want to implement as soon as humanly possible

[glossy fjord]

ok bro thx

[glossy fjord]

ok ok perfect thx

[half lance]

thx，i will try it again!

[pseudo crown]

Do we know how will the Illuvium Marketing buy those:
5 000 standard D1sks
1000 mega D1sks

Using ETH or will they drain the silv2 pool ? 👀

[valid sierra]

Same way they did for the land plots for marketing I guess

[pseudo crown]

Community Goals: If 5,000 D1sks are sold, all customers who purchase a D1sk will receive an exclusive "Welcome to the Party" emote.
Individual Goals: If 10 D1sks are purchased, customers will receive a 10% off merch code.

Which did not look back what was the action during 1st land sale.

Personally, from a strategy perspective I will drain those sILV2 in order to get more revenu in ETH for later but i'm wondering what the community might thing of that idea 👀 .

Note, that sILV2 is there from stakers at 1st, they sale it on the blockchain on a secondary market which allow anyone to get some sILV2. If they know how to do so.

[agile kayak]

Why would the team buy them? They can just mint them.

Same deal as the 25x marketing T1 plots during the land sale.

[pseudo crown]

It's a possiblity...

[agile kayak]

I'm also curious what sILV2 you're referring to. sILV2 spent in the land sale got burned.

[pseudo crown]

exactly, i'm saying the same thing as you just mentionned.

[agile kayak]

I must be missing something. At any rate, my understanding is that the team will mint 5000 standard disks, and 1000 mega disks, to be used for marketing purposes, and that the DAO will not be paying for those disks with ETH or sILV2.

[pseudo crown]

My bad, I thought they will buy it from the total limited supply.

[agile kayak]

Oh these won't be alpha disks - just **non-alpha.

[pseudo crown]

I was missing this part of the information

[timber apex]

They won’t be bought. Just minted.

[alpine dew]

Anyone's else super bummed about the day and time of the lunch? 2am on a Tuesday for Americans is the worst. Isn't North Americans Illuviums main demographic? Why not pick a weekend day? Almost all Events are scheduled for Amercians but not the launch of Illuvitars? Ok I'm done crying

[umbral holly]

Not me I don't have a real job 🤣

[pine crag]

This sounds really exiting haha

[flint field]

All I can think is they want to give Australians a chance to get some Alpha disks before the Americans roll in and scoop it all up. California alone has 3 times the GDP of the entire country of Australia so makes sense they'd want go live in the wee hours of the night while Americans are sleeping. Smart actually. If the Alpha disks sell out before Americans wake up then they reached their goal and now American money will flow in after the fact increasing the safety pool further.

Of course I have an alarm clock and plan to use it accordingly.

[remote egret]

Im a bit bummed but I’ll just try set an alarm and hopefully not miss it 😅 I would have preferred a Friday or Saturday night then I could have stayed up to hang out for the launch party.. but sadly work at 5am says no to that on a Tuesday lol 😂

[pine crag]

We will need to take a free day on Tuesday 🙂

[remote egret]

If I could work from home I’d be tempted lol but the company I work for is super short staffed so I have to go in 😩 I’m sure the launch party will be great for those who can make it

[strong topaz]

Will Alpha cards be worth more points when collecting?

[light jacinth]

Nope

[strong topaz]

So it will literally just be "cosmetic"

[light jacinth]

Yeah just rarity is the selling point

[pine crag]

oh I am sorry.
We will celebrate for you! 😉

Most important is that you get your d1sks before they sell out.

[remote egret]

Yesss gotta get those disks.. still gotta get some more silv2 lol

[valid sierra]

The new holo's are

[remote egret]

No leaks? so mean…

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[remote egret]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-sad-sad-face-alone-waiting-gif-21396787

[alpine dew]

that is the sad part I would have to stay up all night to hangout for the launch party.

[pine crag]

you are so lucky Fraggy!

[valid sierra]

Good time for me but I have a meeting at the office so I'll also miss it

[pine crag]

Should I get some for you?

[alpine dew]

I think the team just want all the North Americans to miss out on all the Alphas so they have to buy on secondary. That is my theory

[compact bone]

Where was that?

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-patrick-star-broke-poor-gif-14729256

[valid sierra]

Private

[pine crag]

how can the best mod handling 150 plots of land be poor this is impossible 😉

[valid sierra]

None of those are mine? 🙂

[pine crag]

doesn't matter if you play them!
Kieran is very generous!

[compact bone]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-for-real-viralhog-im-done-with-you-are-you-kidding-me-so-its-like-that-gif-26517839

[valid sierra]

I gave them all to other people. Kieran gave a lot of plots away

[pine crag]

okay I see, I am sorry haha
I will donate you a pack if you want just don't show it to me when it's a holo 😉

[valid sierra]

There is 1 Illuvitar I want so I might look on secondary first

[short star]

ahoy

[pine crag]

holo Ramphyre blazing haha

[short star]

so i see it says "1x random rare illuvitar" for the megadiscs on illuvium.io

was wondering if thats a typo or if it has been changed to be guranteed rare illuvitar instead of illuvitar/accesiour

[alpine dew]

which one do you want?

[pine crag]

for alpha it's going to be a guranteed rare Illuvitar

For non alpha mega I am not sure

[valid sierra]

I don't know if I should say in public, you gonna try to make me overpay

[alpine dew]

I was gonna gift it to you if i get it

[pine crag]

haha nobody will care

[short star]

dont trust them fragster

[pine crag]

we all want to tip Fraggy but get rejected haha

[short star]

or actually tell them the one you want the least, and watch kukka go up to 10eth

[valid sierra]

I would never reject a gift

[pine crag]

haha send wallet in dm will send you standard alpha d1sk for the good work you always do in here!
It's tough to be a mod I think 😉

Condition is just that I really get it as first transaction will be mega D1sks.

[valid sierra]

I can't make you give away a holo 😄

[alpine dew]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-hiding-embarrassed-bush-gif-17685536

[tender chasm]

I asumme the illuvitars will be available in the IMX markeplace right? I think it will cheaper to buy it from the users than buying them from the d1sk because of the ammount of duplicate Avatars (during the first 3 months)

[umbral holly]

If you just want an illuvitar it's probably decent to buy a dupe. If you want to collect and maybe get something super rare, that's another story

[night basalt]

its better to use illuvidex for secondary buys, so you dont have to pay extra immutable marketplace fee (or it was the same but more goes to illuvium 🤨 dont remember 😂 )

[tender chasm]

What do you understand by "rare"? a creative combination of items and illuvitars? I'm interested mostly on the iluvitars (i'm not interested on the items)

[tender chasm]

I though Illuvidex was build on IMX.

[night basalt]

yes, but marketplace is a product in short version, IMX has one and illuvium have one (both on Immutable L2)

[tender chasm]

Ok, yeah it's clear now.

[valid sierra]

[frosty knot]

right? 😄

[valid sierra]

Oh yes, I already know what I want ^^

[frosty knot]

Which?

[valid sierra]

Can’t say

[frosty knot]

Rypter looks insane as Holo

The massive eye... 🤤

I'm going to need a Holo Doka with Pink Background

[pseudo crown]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-interested-reaction-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-3915584

[valid sierra]

Especially the poison one

[valid sierra]

Oh yeah earth doka MVP

[frosty knot]

Looking at a Holo Flaming Arcane Emberlynx someone minted on testnet... rip

Holo Kukka also, really pops

[pine crag]

Were you also lucky to mint a holo?
How many tries?

[solemn blade]

you chuckleheads have got me so hyped to get a holo alpha illuvitar and I really don't think my budget can take that... also wanting to get something rare. 8 alpha megas is practically my entire budget... so that's 16 shots at 1/20 for 56% chance of getting an alpha holo. I'm not terribly interested in getting alpha T0s since they're the same in every wave.

All depends on that sweet sweet drop chance article coming... tomorrow?

[frosty knot]

Today, it's now 03/03 here in AU

[solemn blade]

also IIRC the chances of missed prints that Aaron wrote up was based on original numbers of alpha d1sks. I'm wondering how many missed prints are expected now that it's 5x as many.

[sonic shale]

This was news to me. Can't wait to see drop rates and rare expressions/backgrounds

[agile kayak]

@frosty knot Moving here, but with regards to: #💰〕token message

Were those 200k standard disks?

I can also just wait for the rates doc haha, excited to look through it!

[solemn blade]

You know your asking about standard d1sks made me just realized that the definition for "rare" in the mega d1sk is just over a certain power threshold... and holo is just another thing that adds power. So if holo rate on standards is 1/20 I would think that megas are more likely to get holo (better probability than 1/20). Basically an illuvitar with holo is more than likely going to cross the threshold of "rare", while one without is more likely to be rerolled and get a second chance at holo.

Is my thinking right here? Only way I can think of that not being the case is if rarity is checked first, THEN holo is rolled after but I can't see that being how it works.

[agile kayak]

Your thinking is in line with my thinking, just because holos are inherently higher power. Like you said, unless there's some strange order of operations on the back end preventing holos from megas being in line with normal holo rates.

[timber apex]

This is correct. You're much more likely to get a holo in a Mega D1SK.

Basically, you will see more rare things. So you're more likely to get a rare expression. more likely to get a rare background. Etc...

But the point is that holo isn't the only way to say rare

[solemn blade]

No but it's the best. (and I'm kidding of course, some of those backgrounds are awesome and I've barely seen a few)

[solemn blade]

Since I've got you here, have you happened to redo the numbers on how many missed prints you expect w/ the higher alpha batch count?

[timber apex]

Depends on the Illuvial. Holo Atlas is still kind of common. Whereas an 800-point background is less so. I think seeing someone with an 832 point atlas would be pretty funny.

[timber apex]

Yes. It's now very few.

To the point where we think it might be better to do one missed print sale at the end of the set

[solemn blade]

😦 revdis no longer go brrr, go pfffsssssss

[timber apex]

Remember the reason for these changes were community demand.

[solemn blade]

Of course, I'm not worried, just trying to think of all the angles. Actually if anything it might make the auctions for misprints even more competitive.

[timber apex]

So the idea is that satisfying this demand will be worth more than these few auction cards.

[timber apex]

That's the idea. And why I didn't push back hard. Because there are advantages both ways.

[solemn blade]

TBH I'm burning like 4-5x as much sILV2 because of the changes. It feels a LOT more collectible now.

[brittle cargo]

What does the number at the bottom left mean?

[night ivy]

I'm sure this has been asked so many times but what will the prices of D1sks be?

[smoky verge]

I think ranking on the leaderboard for this specific featured Illuvial.

Either that or the number of the Illuvial itself in the Illuvidex similar to Pokemon number.

But i expect the former.

[night ivy]

thank you goat

[brittle cargo]

Yes, both make sense. I believe the former as well. Thank you!

[solemn blade]

yeah I concur, it is almost certainly the ranking of rarity for that particular illuvial. this is common for NFTs
for instance this is my EVM with rarity ranking #1,005 (from opensea)

[brittle cargo]

great, thank you!

[timber apex]

That's the production number.

[timber apex]

The latter. I'm not sure what you mean by the former though. The leaderboard isn't for Illuvitars, it's for players.

[brittle cargo]

Thank you for the clarification! 😅

[timber apex]

Now I understand what you mean. No, we don't have a 'rarity rank' just the power ratings. We could add it if people thought it was super important.

[wanton hearth]

Adding a rarity number could help NFT collectors from outside of Illuvium to become more interested. Degens love speculating on rare NFTs. Imho

[timber apex]

It will have the power. And it's pretty simple. Big is good.

[modest kite]

NFT degens say big number = bad rarity lol

[timber apex]

NFT degens have some type of meme based learning disability, but even they can understand power up = good.

[modest kite]

They will just hunt for the elusive 69s and 420s anyway 🤣

[timber apex]

I think you could get a 69 with a Tier 0 and 3 accessories

with a stage 1 background

420 could be made many ways, surely.

[modest kite]

You think of everything @timber apex :)

[timber apex]

I definitely wasn’t thinking about those numbers when we came up with the power system. But I can’t judge because the only reason top level power is what it is, is because of that Vegeta meme.

[stone swallow]

Yeah over 9000 is elite

[compact bone]

Over 10K?

Credits to @pseudo crown

[timber apex]

9,999 is the limit that is wrong.

It’s also the wrong production number.

[agile kayak]

420 power from Disk 69? Ultimate meme Illuvitar

[timber apex]

And the power ring is wrong.

[main hollow]

The production number is equal the mint number?

[compact bone]

https://tenor.com/view/sorry-hayden-addi-yoda-im-sorry-gif-20985188

[timber apex]

@mellow field Is that something we can fix?

[timber apex]

No. It’s the position in the illuviDex.

Atlas is 001

[modest kite]

Who is #69?

[compact bone]

👀

[modest kite]

Im tryin to one up @agile kayak haha get production #69 power level 69 on D1sk 69

[solemn blade]

I'll be honest, I don't understand why that's there or what it's for then

[timber apex]

In the Set collection they are ordered by production number.

[timber apex]

I’m not at the computer right now so can’t tell you. It has to be a stage 3. 23rd line. Ima say either Gyro or Blotto.
Edit: It’s Gyro.

[sinful portal]

Explainer - I was frustrated that the Illuvium Beyond D1sk Opening Battles didn't seem very Strategic, and they sounded like they relied too heavily on RNG.
So I tried to come up with something that was a little more Strategic, had opportunities for Quick thinking plays, built some anticipation, and had the potential for Clutch wins.
The below is the explanation of it. Although the explanation seems long and complicated, the game itself is very simple.

[sinful portal]

5 Round D1sk Reveal Battle
+Each player requires Unopened 3x Standard D1sks, 2x Mega D1sk, 1x Alpha D1sk(as the Power Play).
+Recommended 2 Players + Battle Referee.
+Can also be played with more players, however it will require an additional 1x Standard D1sk to be used in the event a Tie Breaker is needed.
+Also possible to Battle for stakes, with each player contributing an unopened Standard D1sk to the prize pool, with Winner takes all.

Base Mechanics:
-There are 5 rounds of play, where each player reveals their D1sk to see what is inside. The points for the reveal are calculated for each player. The player with the highest points wins that Round.

-The Player who wins 3 or more Rounds is the D1sk Battle Champion.

-If Playing a game with more than 2 players, then after each Round, players are assigned Round points equal to their position (1st = 1, 2nd = 2, 3rd =3 etc). The player with the Lowest score after the 5 rounds is the D1sk Battle Champion

-The Alpha D1sk is used as a 'Power Play'. The 'Power Play' completely replaces your currently played D1sk with the contents of the Alpha D1sk, allowing you to potentially steal the round after a bad initial reveal.
The 'Power Play' can only be used once per player during a battle. It can be used during any round of that player's choice. It can only be used After all players have revealed their D1sk for that round, but before the points are calculated. It is possible for multiple players to use their 'Power Play' in the same round.

Play Mechanics:
-Before starting, each player writes down the order of their D1sks using the 3x Standard D1sks and 2x Mega D1sks, and privately passes it through to the Battle Referee, this will form the play order of each players D1sks.

-The play position of the Alpha D1sk for the 'Power Play' should not be decided in advance, as it is a Strategy play.

-The Battle Referee flips a coin (or similar) to decide which player will go first, or the play order for multiple players.

-The Battle Referee will nominate to each player which D1sk they need to open (Standard or Mega), and each player will take turns to reveal their D1sk contents.

-Once all players have revealed their D1sks, the Battle Referee will announce this is the time for Power Plays and provide 5 seconds for any player to call a Power Play. The 5 second count will repeat after any player calls a Power Play allowing the potential for another player to also call a Power Play in response.

-After all Power Plays are done, or the 5 seconds expires, the points for each players D1sk reveal will be calculated for that round.

-The points per player are tallied for each of the Illuvitars and Accessories (actual point system to be confirmed once I see how they look/work). The Player with the highest points on their D1sk reveal wins the round. If there are more than 2 players, then the Points are arranged in order from highest to lowest and used to determine their placement for that round.

-After 5 Rounds, the Round points are tallied to determine the overall Battle Winner.

-In the event of a Tie (when played with more than 2 players), an additional Round is played using the spare Tiebreaker D1sk.

Note: This game does not require players to Fuse/Combine Illuvitars with Accessories. This is intended so that players can retain the value and full use of the individual Illuvitars and Accessories.

Options:
-A simplified/cheaper Version can also be done as a 3 Round Battle, using 2x Standard D1sks and 1x Mega D1sk without the Power Play mechanic of the Alpha D1sk.

-You could play it using only Standard D1sks for the normal rounds, and use 1 or 2 Mega D1sks as the Power Play mechanic.

[mellow field]

Yes we can, where is this?

[frosty knot]

ID for the Vermillia

[pseudo crown]

Those reaction LOL look at Bryce & Kieran face ahhah

[sick apex]

hi fam

just discovered illuvitars' sale is about to happen in a few days, just to make sure i understood properly, to get alpha d1sks all i have to do i be there as soon as the batch opens ?

[timber apex]

Promos.

[pseudo crown]

Bryce opened a Slashin Tier 3 stage 3

[stone swallow]

In the first 3 days

[sick apex]

is this a demo or can we already buy 😮

[pseudo crown]

Demo

[sick apex]

thanks ! and i can buy them all with silv2 right ? even alpha d1sks ?

[pseudo crown]

Look at the event it's live on Bryce twitch

[pseudo crown]

yes

[sick apex]

tyvm

[pseudo crown]

Kieran pack Singe

@late cradle you need those + 28.75%

There seems to be a bug on Singe noise

[pine crag]

Is it because it's on test net?

[frosty knot]

Yep, confirming I've got that one. Fix on the way

[sonic shale]

So who won?

[past tundra]

Actually no. It’s because the billions of possibilities means there will be some errors like this that need fixed.

[past tundra]

Looks like Kieran would have won that one. Singe is way strong.

[sonic shale]

I was only able to watch Kieran pull his first mega-d!sk and the had to drop off. So was curious if Brycent pulled anything good or not on the mega ones.
Was hoping there would be more screenshots here

[past tundra]

Oh maybe. Not sure.

[misty sapphire]

hey guys can anyone confirm if these are the final prices of Illuvitars for Wave 1?

[past tundra]

I was just comparing screenshots. From in here

[sonic shale]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aiB8mpyRnwLuoXAjNWzGwCco13aG6yatha2bUwY8xPE/edit#gid=0

[past tundra]

The website can confirm.

I’ll double check

[past tundra]

Yes. Can confirm.

https://illuvium.io/illuvitars

[misty sapphire]

thanks guys, i appreciate it

[kind summit]

Hmmm the alpha sticker should be in the lower right of the photo like a stamp

[cerulean quartz]

How long will wave 1 for extended be open ?

So the alpha will be sold at as brought but how long will standard disks be on sale ?

[cerulean quartz]

Can we also buy alpha disk with ilv ?

[glad osprey]

The entire Wave 1 sale lasts 3 months.

[past tundra]

No. But you can use sILV2.

[cerulean quartz]

Sorry ilv2 I mean

[cerulean quartz]

But alpha disk are limited....so really it makes perfect sense to go for alpha disk right

Then just buy the others later

[alpine dew]

yes

[cerulean quartz]

Or am I missing something

[cerulean quartz]

So if it's 10 max each then gosh that's like only 2000 users not going to bu much to go around haha

[cerulean quartz]

Is it FCFS ?

With max 10 buy per transaction

And are alpha disk just for collection and not fit game ?

[alpine dew]

so if you are there right when the sale starts and it says they are available and you hit buy you are guaranteed to get an alpha. so if there is crazy demand everyone who really wanted one will get one

[cerulean quartz]

I will be there haha

[alpine dew]

yup alpha are for collection and wont be anymore powerful than others just cause they are alphas

just rarer

[cerulean quartz]

Right but will stillm be part of the game

Yes yes

[alpine dew]

yess

[cerulean quartz]

Epic!

Thanks

[past tundra]

Alphas cost 5x more than the regular ones.

[cerulean quartz]

Yes but they are limited ...what will make them more rare ?

Like is it done sort of mark on the nft or what

[past tundra]

Yes limited. So probably more rare.

[cerulean quartz]

And you have three months ri get the others

[past tundra]

Yeah.

[cerulean quartz]

But more rare in what sense ?

Yes number and and ?

[past tundra]

Supply.

[glad osprey]

Scarcity is what creates the rarity. There will be less of them so they are inherently rarer than the standard Illuvitars.

[cerulean quartz]

Yes but what will identify them as alpha ?

[past tundra]

1 alpha illuvitar out of 240,000 alpha illuvitars. Versus 1 standard illuvitar out of xAMOUNT of illuvitars.

[glad osprey]

They will have an Alpha stamp of some sort and it will also show they are Alpha in the metadata (like a trait, essentially)

[cerulean quartz]

I see.....so why would anyone not buy the alpha first ?

Since they are limited and will have 3 months to buy the others

[past tundra]

It’ll be in the metadata and will have this icon shown when on the IlluviDEX.

[glad osprey]

Some people will want to collect more Illuvitars to complete the collections in the album. The Alphas cost 5x more than the Standards. If they only bought Alpha D1sks, they’ll have less Illuvitars and accessories overall and they won’t be able to complete as many collections in the album.

[cerulean quartz]

But the standard disks are unlimited

So they could just buy as many as they like to complete the collection

[glad osprey]

Yes, that’s the idea.

Keep in mind though, most people are not made of money… so they cannot simply buy an unlimited amount of D1sks.

[cerulean quartz]

Yes yes but the price is very low for a quality nft and they have 3 months to pop in and out

But appreciate your help 😌. I think going all in on alpha for now ....makes sense

[alpine dew]

Any plans to do a big marketing push for Illuvitar sale. It the regards of spending advertising dollars

[low cedar]

How much do alpha discs cost? Has it been decided yet?

[lunar shard]

Is there a whitelist for the Alpha sales or first in first served?

[lunar shard]

Scroll up a bit, prices are mentioned a few times

[past tundra]

First come first served. All orders in the first few minutes will be processed. Even beyond the soft “limit”

[frosty knot]

Lot's to come, Marketing shall release the kraken this next week

[alpine dew]

sweet. also when will the physical disk be on sale?

[kind summit]

May it would be cool if its shown like this but semi transparent and like a holo like on cards

[normal sorrel]

I actually agree with this, I expected it to be inside the art.

[frosty knot]

Asap, the moment we push v1 Illuvium Beyond live, I'll be working on v1.1 as well as the Illuvium Store (dev complete, but few outstanding items prior to go live)

[alpine dew]

wait so right after I buy my Illuvitar I can get it printed?

[frosty knot]

It will be my mission in life to make that happen as urgently as possible

[frosty knot]

maybe it could be a wax seal stamp? but somewhat transparent similar to a watermark

[alpine dew]

Your the man Nick!

[alpine dew]

very cool idea!

[sick apex]

Can illuvitars alone be alpha, or can both illuvitars and the accessories be alpha ?

[alpine dew]

Only the Illuvitar

[sick apex]

ty

[frosty knot]

Just an idea, we would require an IIP if this was a change the DAO wanted to make

[alpine dew]

that would have to happen really quick or are we talking in future waves?

btw I dont get how you get anything done with me asking you a million questions 🤣

[sick apex]

just to make sure i understood properly : mega d1sks only bring better accessories, or do they hold better illuvitars too ?

compared to regular ones

[alpine dew]

with a mega you are guaranteed a rare Illuvitar. and with that a better chance at a holo

[sick apex]

ohhhh cause i read rare item, didn't know if it meant accessory or illuvitar

but you can still get a rare illuvitar on a single normal d1sk right ?

[alpine dew]

they changed it unless im mistaken

[alpine dew]

yes!

[sick apex]

any chance they gave out the probabilities of getting one for each d1sk type ?

[alpine dew]

The drop rates and stuff will be available before sale. Also dont miss this showcase about to start!!

[sick apex]

it's 4 am where i live, i'm about to go to sleep, hope the showcase is recorded and posted online so i can catchg it up later 🙂

[alpine dew]

its recored no worriers

[past tundra]

Embossed or impressed like a seal

[frosty knot]

Love it

[valid sierra]

Stupid time zones

[valid sierra]

New Illuvitar launch time <t:1678226400:F>

[golden badger]

Right, let's make it inconvenient for all Europe now, just a few days before launch and after annuncing another time for days

[valid sierra]

Yup, no launch for me

Thank the Americans

[pallid wren]

[stark epoch]

Are the probabilities of getting a rare item in a standard D1sk known already?

[golden badger]

I will stay up maybe one or two hours, no point in staying more, Italians will be in bed

I even took a day off🤣 that's why I should never trust Illuvium with dates and time

[frosty knot]

😦

[valid sierra]

Yeah you won’t be the only one

[mossy thorn]

Yeap, you can trust anything on illuvium team BUT dates and time🙃🙃

[lunar shard]

Love the new time

[cerulean quartz]

It's sad because I loovveee the project but this is tarish them and they do it constantly. If they want to be who they say they do ....they need to get basic things like times and dates correct and deliver without any excuses

[cerulean quartz]

It's not professional at all you constantly change times and dates with little warning no matter how big your project it. It's really basics and there is zero excuses for not getting it right

[golden badger]

Sadly, I can't agree more!💯

[cerulean quartz]

They need to get it and simple stop with excuses

[golden badger]

That's the difference between being in "major league" and playing at the park with friends

[cerulean quartz]

The excuses simply need to stop and they need hire someone with the sole purpose to manage the schedule

[cerulean quartz]

Exactly..it just needs to stop

It's not a big delay but I almost knew it would happen makes it looks like there is no communication or forward looking and like amateurs. The product looks incredible but these excuses go a long way to tarnishing all the work they put in and they are soooo easy to avoid

[valid sierra]

You know me, I’ll speak my mind about this in mod chat 😉

[golden badger]

I know, bit sad I'll miss it!

[chrome violet]

I completely disagree with both of you when you are developing a new concept,game,product, and are completely pragmatic about it demanding continual improvement a change of time for something is meaningless

[cerulean quartz]

You never going to please everyone and now they have to go to all the YT and outlets and loo like fools changing a time days before a massive project launch it makes is look soooooo unprofessional

[cerulean quartz]

Other studios big and small do not move time on a massive launch days before ....they don't. Imagine if EA did this....we would think like what the hell is going on there.

They not going to get the respect they want if keep doing this and we know they likely will. Just hire someone to manage it ...that simple

[lunar shard]

I don't know why the first time was set anyway, it was 1AM here in Australia. Pretty sure that's where most of the team is?

[cerulean quartz]

Good question....why was not more thought out into this before being sent to press and no communication or planning just basic stuff

Fact is you never going to please everyone

Makes no difference for me as I am in London but it looks the project look mediocre as basics are not being addressed.

[cerulean quartz]

Can we join ? Really mate they just need to sort it out. Like today ...I want this to be a great project..

But basics first

[valid sierra]

Mod chats is for mods 😉

[cerulean quartz]

I think we are sick of hearing and dates....being happy...looking forward and then thinking at the back of our mind of gosh I hope it happens but let's just prepare for likely disappointment

[cerulean quartz]

I think we are sick of hearing and dates....being happy...looking forward and then thinking at the back of our mind of gosh I hope it happens but let's just prepare for likely disappointment

[errant stump]

There was an obvious mistake with launch event starting 7 hours before launch.

I guess somebody changed their mind about the timing and didn’t communicate it well to the rest of the team.
Not the worst thing in the world.

[cerulean quartz]

It is when it keeps on happening over and over and it's more about people looking at the project and thinking why did you not even get such a basic thing right ?
Is it really worth this frustration and look from the outside ti satisfy a few unhappy people

[valid sierra]

Event times will be updated

[errant stump]

Yes it’s needlessly shooting themselves in the foot, but in a few weeks from now nobody will care.
It’s a silly screw up, but no doubt they will do better next time.

This is very different to delaying closed beta launches due to development not being ready.
Two entirely different things really.

[cerulean quartz]

Yes but it keepppsss happening ....over and over and over

[golden badger]

They are different things and still they have similarities. Those are, they didn't keep up with set dates and times. This has led and will led to loose trust from the community.

[errant stump]

I may have forgotten but when was the last time they rescheduled an event to better fit a time zone?

I probably just didn’t notice tbh.

[golden badger]

Let's put the question in a bit different frame. When was the last time they reschedule something? I have plenty examples

[errant stump]

This is a free chat you can ask any question you like, but I’m still interested in hearing the answer to my question.

No big deal though, I’m guessing the answer might be: none.

[golden badger]

I respect your opinion. I just believe your question is fixating on a very specific detail when we are discussing about a bigger picture here.

[errant stump]

Sure no problem. I was just highlighting that they haven’t really made many mistakes like this before.

Announcing dates that they fail to deliver on is a theme, but the cause is very different.

Anyway, I better get ready for work. Cya later. 🙂

[slender jetty]

happy passive aggressive Friday ladies and gentlemen

[errant stump]

Welcome to social media. 😆

[glad marsh]

I nearly nearly booked the Wednesday off here in Australia as well. My boss will go off his rocker if I ask for Wednesday off on Monday morning haha! Oh well, see how it pans out I guess. Will do my best to get to the launch party & grab some mega alpha's 🙏

[lean furnace]

Is there a list of expected uses for illuvitars? When I heard “trading card game” I was picturing like a magic the gathering type game. Is something like that planned?

[glad marsh]

There's a lot of call for it from the community & members of the team want it too. But it hasn't been decided/confirmed yet. Looks promising though. Whether it would be like MTG or not I have no idea

[deft slate]

How long will the Illuvitars sale be open for? I understand once it closes, thats all the Season 1 Iluvitars that will even be created, but im seeing if the sale is going to be open for 1 day or maybe a week, because that kind of changes how I prep for it.

[frosty knot]

Hey mate, Set 1 Wave 1 will last 3 months

Once Set 1 Wave 2 commences, the assets minted in Set 1 Wave 1 will never be available again

[lunar shard]

As I understand its only the Alpha's that are limited and could sell out early

[wet grotto]

hello, Alpha illuvitars earns more points than non-alphas? or its purely cosmetical?

[lunar shard]

I could be wrong. But but I think the only difference with alpha's is a marking / badge, a bit like a first edition collectable card.

[smoky verge]

Purely aesthetical and cosmetical. Alpha adds nothing of value while collecting. It is purely a small marking to show you that you were early, got a limited edition, and paid 5x

[wet grotto]

great, thanks 🙂

[tiny moss]

Hi! Minting from the contract won't be allowed right ? I'm scared about seeing all sell out in a minute...

[compact bone]

Not sure how that works on Imx, is it even possible?

[tiny moss]

I hope no

[smoky verge]

If everyone mints at the same time, all transactions will be fulfilled. So if you are afraid of things selling out, be there early and just buy the amount you want. You wont be left out if you have that mentality!

[tiny moss]

But don't know if it's possible

[tiny moss]

Only 2k person minting 10 mega alpha disks and it's sold out ^^ i think it will last for a minute lol
But don't worry i will be here at the first second. There is some documentations about how will be the main page of illuvitar sale ?? To prepare my self, knowing exactly where to click etc ?

Maybe showed in a youtube video or somehting ?

[pine crag]

I have the same impression.
Would like to buy 20-25 Megas and as I understood we can make make one transaction with max 10 Disks of each standard and mega alpha disk?

[tiny moss]

Yes only 10 of each per tx. Hope i will get 10 at least x))

I hope that there wont be fck bots etc.

Can we set gas price on IMX ??

[pine crag]

I am sure there will be some bots with a great ping near to the servers to try get mega Nr. 1-10 for resale 😄

[tiny moss]

For sure ^^ but i dont know how IMX is working about gas price, EMV bots etc

Hope it will be fair omg waiting them for a long time aha

[smoky verge]

There is no gas fees on IMX

[smoky verge]

Will the D1sks have numbers assigned to them? I thought they would be fungible tokens. But with different assets coming out of them when opened.

[pine crag]

I think he's more talking about who will get into the block first.

[pine crag]

Yesterday the disks had numbers so I think these are based on minting number but I am not sure about it.
Maybe @granite comet can help us?

[frosty knot]

Token IDs yes

similar story for Illuvitars, Accessories and D1SKs

So there will be a D1SK # 1

[smoky verge]

So if i open my mega d1sks right away I may get a rhamphyre nr 1.

[tiny moss]

Oh really ?? So we just have to select, click mint and wait ?

[frosty knot]

Yessir

[smoky verge]

Shit

[granite comet]

Nick has beaten me to it

[pine crag]

no nothing

[pine crag]

he was very fast 😄

[frosty knot]

Chris shouldn't you be snowboarding

[granite comet]

Just send your funds to L2 early, I reckon everyone will be sending them last minute

[tiny moss]

We will have to wait for a link to drop in #📣〕announcements channel or we already know the link where illuvitar sale will take place ??

[frosty knot]

Agree.

[pine crag]

Hope this Nr. 1 disk stays closed for ever 😄
Does this represent the first disk to ever got minted?

[frosty knot]

IMX are scaling this service up ahead of the sale, but definitely worth getting it sorted ahead of sale

[smoky verge]

There were talks about the server only processing the amount sold every 2-15 minutes or something.

Is this an argument to make people more comfortable with the idea of alpha d1sks selling out in 2 minutes? Cuz everyone can just list as many orders as they want in the first few minutes and have them be fulfilled?

[granite comet]

Nah, back in Sapporo. It's my last night in Japan. I'm flying back tomorrow and getting caught up on all things "Beyond" so I can support this launch

[frosty knot]

I think it's closer to 30 secs - 2min at most

Production is extremely performant compared to Testnet

I wouldn't count of 15minutes lag

I've been seeing 20-30 seconds on testnet

[smoky verge]

Alright! So ill need a hot wallet to do my transaction.

[granite comet]

Had a call with them earlier this week, they up-scaled their infrastructure for a recent mint that sold a few million.

We should be good for at least 20k mints per minute without any issues

[pine crag]

definitely faster for sure!

[tiny moss]

Omg so it will be sold out in a minute '-'

[pine crag]

This will be interesting to watch!

[frosty knot]

Agreed - I wouldn't count on system lagg

Our higher end target has been 60k mints p/minute

[tiny moss]

We will have to wait for a link to drop in #📣〕announcements channel or we already know the link where illuvitar sale will take place and just have to refresh ? ?

[frosty knot]

IlluviDex.illuvium.io/illuvitars-sale

[smoky verge]

Man all the emotions are starting to boil up here. Cant we have a 10 minute refresh time specifically for this? Lol

[frosty knot]

IlluviDex.illuvium.io/illuvitars/d1sk/mint

[granite comet]

Page is already live 🙂

[frosty knot]

Actually better

[pine crag]

not live for me

[tiny moss]

Ok thank's and at the second of launching we just will have to refresh and click or it will auto refresh ?? Really scared about not being able to buy my 10 mega disks x))

[granite comet]

Sorry, built not live, they still have to turn it on

[frosty knot]

If you hit this on deploy, IlluviDex.illuvium.io/illuvitars/d1sk/mint, you'll be able to purchase < 10 seconds if you're fast

Refresh, Add to Cart, Purchase, Sign

[smoky verge]

And then it will drain our wallet and finally Illuvium will have enough runway.
(Sick sick joke sorry.)

[frosty knot]

haha

[granite comet]

... I mean

[pine crag]

Thx Nick for the Alpha will use it

[frosty knot]

I must go to bed, sweet dreams Illuvifolk

[tiny moss]

Deploy mean after the official announcement on discord right ? Thank's for theses precious infos

[pine crag]

Good night thank you for everything!

[valid sierra]

Goodnight Nick, lub you

[granite comet]

I'd just refresh at 10:00pm UTC 07/03

Or 9:59:59

[valid sierra]

Chris is back?!

[granite comet]

Not for another two days, I was pinged

[tiny moss]

Mmm ok awesome ^^ The capital letter on the D is important ?

and on the first I ?

Will connect to my quantic watch lol

[pallid wren]

there is a guaranteed 10-30 minutes buying windows on the first launch.

https://youtu.be/aOb-Zo5EfVc?t=434

[tiny moss]

Don't understand how they will manage it... Thank's for sharing this

[pallid wren]

I think they'll do in the background seeing a number of queues at the time to maximize UX.

[tiny moss]

I hope ^^ will check your vidéo, i missed it hehe

[deft slate]

ahh, ok, so mint early

[solemn blade]

mmm no drop chance article? 😦

[pseudo crown]

Yeah, would be nice to have those data.

[pine crag]

https://tenor.com/view/soon-gif-19121692

[compact bone]

feel like we are getting those today.

https://tenor.com/view/just-because-just-because-shrug-well-gif-12851535

[pseudo crown]

After illuvitars alpha launch sale 10:Pm 7 March + 3 days.

When will be the next illuvitars sale ?

[solemn blade]

#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message
😦 But AUS 3/3 already go bye bye

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[compact bone]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

[distant nimbus]

beyond cards will be able to be traded like IZ land?

[wise peak]

Yes

[solemn blade]

ermahgerd it's here

[umbral holly]

just checking, i have my wallet connected to metamask the to my cold storage. then i just connect to the illuvium site and my silv2 is good to go correct?

[solemn blade]

This is the info right here

[distant nimbus]

And how do we get a new deck? By buying another one or can you earn by playing

[glad marsh]

Check a recent announcement, there was a guide to getting it onto IMX which is who the purchases go through if you're talking about buying illuvitars with sILV2

[smoky verge]

Holy shit. Just multiplied all the values... and with Tier 5, stage 3, rare expression, holo, tier 5 back, stage 3 back
You would have ~1/168M chance of obtaining it.

Thats one rare maxed out Rhamphyre. Even a random holo rhamphyre is 1/64K @.@

[umbral holly]

yeah i read that, will go back and double check

just that i was already staked with imx

so no need to connect anything that end

[glad marsh]

Aahhhh ok cool. Yeah I had to go through it and follow the steps the other day. Now my sILV2 is no longer showing up in my metamask, only in the illuvidex & IMX wallet

[umbral holly]

so just connect the imx to illuvidex correct?

[glad marsh]

So it's on layer2 now. Metamask is layer1

[glad marsh]

There's a button on the illuvidex you have to click, think it was deposit funds, then crypto and then you can select sILV2 etc

[solemn blade]

So if you want to decide between standard vs mega d1sks you have to figure out what is worth more
60 standard d1sks
5 rare > 1000 power
55 < 1000 power
60 T0
180 accessories

Or
12 mega d1sks
12 rare > 1000 power
12 more illuvitars
36 accessories

And DAMN T5 stuff is going to be rare. Hard to tell how rare w/ mega d1sks because we don't know how easy it is for T2 or T1 to break 1000 power threshold.

[umbral holly]

yeah thanks. seem to be having a issue with this part

[distant nimbus]

Any?

[umbral holly]

thanks

[solemn blade]

so super easy to not even have a holo rhamphyre alpha in existence

[glad marsh]

Can't check properly as I'm on my phone & can't connect

[storm flare]

Am i right in thinking it's roughly a 1/3000 chance that your illuvitar is a tier 5 stage 3? And that If you bought 10 disks you are likely to get one holo based on the 1/20 odds?

[smoky verge]

that depends exactly on the mega d1sks rare drop rate. What I heard Aaron say was that the chances of a rare expression holo rhamphyre to appear was ~1/2 for the entire Alpha selection.

#🎮〕illuvium-beyond message

So with 120K regulars being minted and it being a 1/640K~ for the rare holo Rhamphyre to appear, I would imagine the 20K rares to bridge the gap and make up the remaining 200K attempts to make it 320K/640K. To me that's an interesting number that I have no idea how to work with lol.

What i would do would be to say that you'd have 10x the chance of getting that holo rhamphyre with rare openings, which coincides with the 12 packs to get an illuvitar with 1000 power that they referred to. So it should be 10x as easy to get a holo rhamphyre when you take away all the illuvitars below 1000 power.
I'm not sure if that's the correct conclusion, but that would be dope.

[hazy juniper]

So is rhamphyre a 1 in 300k chance? @timber apex

Thats what u get if u multiply 0.4% by 7.7%

yall are way ahead of me, I gotta keep reading

[smoky verge]

1/ (0.004*0.077) = 3246?

[hazy juniper]

ohhh right

its like midnight I am braindead

cheers for that

somehow I did 100 / (0.004*0.077)

So that brings any holo rhamphyre to 1 in 60k

and rare expression to 1 in 600k

[modest kite]

Sounds like my 1st pull

🤣

[smoky verge]

rare expression ánd holo* rhamphyre

[hazy juniper]

yeah yeah

❤️

maths wizz

[dark onyx]

Close

[hazy juniper]

u lads

[smoky verge]

~1 / 649,350 for holo, rare expression, rhamphyre.

[hazy juniper]

Yeah sick

ill sell it to u

after I get it

[valid sierra]

https://tenor.com/view/quickmaths-bigshaq-mansnothot-comedy-gif-12235541

[hazy juniper]

Wonder how the 1k minimum power thing fits in

It would eliminate any weaker base portrait out of the mix right

Wonder where that cutoff is

[smoky verge]

with your numbers for standard d1sks that take into account 5 rares from the 60, you should do the same for mega d1sks.

It would mean you'd get 13 rare > 1000 power on avarage and 11 more illuvitars with approximately <1000 power from the mega D1sks.

So the comparison should be whether 8 rares are equal to 44 <1000s base illuvitars, 60 T0, and 144 accessories I suppose.

[dark onyx]

But not quite

[smoky verge]

yeah I'm really butchering these numbers in the worst of ways lol

[dark onyx]

Referring to this

[smoky verge]

could you elaborate? 👀

Is it because I didn't take into consideration the backgrounds that also change the weighting?

[storm flare]

Here I was thinking bringing the D1sk prices down would making actually completing a 25 illuvitar collection possible, then they be hitting us with the 1/3000 for a ramphyre haha

[smoky verge]

or is it because the chance of gaining any of the T5s for this wave is 0.4% already taking into consideration the differences between the 5 T5s available (if Adoredo is part of the sale, but i don't think it should, so 4)

[pallid sage]

Will illuvium beyond be a playable game?

its just collecting for now tho?

[solemn blade]

yeah I thought about that, that's why I put "12 more illuvitars"
because what the article says is "To achieve this level of power a collector would normally have to buy approximately 12 Standard D1SKs."
Which includes T0 illuvitars that can be rare.
so if you're talking strictly the "standard" illuvitar in each d1sk it's less than 1 in 12.
somewhere between 1 in 24 and 1 in 12
I didn't want to put 12.5 rare illuvitars because that sounds janky

[smoky verge]

Illuvium beyond is just having an album and gaining benefits for having collections completed and being certain ranks on the leaderboard.

Whether the Illuvitars will be used during a game like a card game that has been rumored to be ideated upon is unsure. It will have to first pass an IIP and such in the upcoming months. before that we'll need a concise Game design document that may come out later this year.

[pine crag]

So Kieran was fuqing lucky yesterday!!

[smoky verge]

Ah yeah that makes sense. I completely looked over the T0s being able to cross the 1000 power threshold. I wouldn't expect them to 😄

[pallid sage]

awesome thx!

[smoky verge]

I saw him get another rhamphyre a week orso ago as well! possibly different numbers though

[dark onyx]

On the right track here

[solemn blade]

The odds of getting a holo earth doka w/ rare expression and stage 3 background is 1 in 64,935. So there might be 1 or 2 in all 100,000 standard alpha d1sks.

[smoky verge]

Yep and that will create a false sense of rarity for the T0s. You may see a spike in price for these T0s before the second wave. Then during the second wave they will show up again in the Alpha packs and their value will go down and down and downnn.

[solemn blade]

unless our player base doubles every illuvitar wave

but yeah that's the biggest reason I'm not particularly high on standard d1sks

[smoky verge]

Still. They may go at the same value then because the amount of alpha d1sks may also go up.

Or do you think it would be smart to sell 100K d1sks to 10x the audience after launch 👀

Idk maybe it is cool.

[pine crag]

I feel like we will have a hard time and should not aim too high 😉

But one of us could be extremely lucky and get something insane I love it 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-good-luck-gif-20034388

Good luck to everyone may the Illuviverse be with you!

[smoky verge]

Likewise!!

[pine crag]

Hope people will post their beauties here to celebrate together!

[eager vine]

That would be nice, a best of galery

hall of fame

[timber apex]

Just to be clear there is a little bit more nuance that I should tell you about. We sample from all stages after the Tier. So the way it works is we pool all the Tier 5s (there are 4) and we use the weights for each (stage 1 = 9, stage 2 = 3, stage 3 = 1) and then use that for the total weights. Which means that Rhamphyre is 1 in 4000

I will get that blog fixed to make it a bit clearer.

[smoky verge]

It was the first thing i wanted to ask about, but i thought you guys would keep it simple 🤣

Makes sense though!

[timber apex]

The reason why we do that is because it allows us to adjust things back to a representative sample of the entire wave

It's not perfect but it means we don't have so many pockets of really low power things being uncommon

or vice versa

[compact bone]

So I will buy one pack at 3999 and get that holo😃

[solemn blade]

the original verbage for the mega d1sks stated "Mega D1SKs have a higher chance of dropping rare Illuvitars and Accessories." (it's still on the site)
Is this still accurate or did the change of the rare towards a rare illuvitar basically chuck that out the window? now all accessories have equal odds?

[compact bone]

Eze

[pine crag]

oh so most likely only like 5 alpha Ramphyre going to be minted. Or are we talking about holo Ramphyre?

Well here goes my hope to get one 😄

[alpine dew]

dang 1-4000. crazy rare so there might be like 1 holo Rhamphyre. good to know the chances are so low so I dont waste all my money

[eager vine]

Pretty hyped about the event in 6 hours

[timber apex]

Yes.

[compact bone]

https://tenor.com/view/weekend-party-champagne-gif-18280013

[timber apex]

This has changed and we have pushed some fixes for it. Where are you seeing it so I can make sure we squashed them all.

[smoky verge]

So in this case with Squizz =9, Goliant = 3, Adoredo* = 3, and Rhamphyre = 1

So Rhamphyre would be a 1/16 out of all T5s? So 0.4% x 1/16. But this wouldnt add up since youd expect a rarity increase of 20% if you go from 1/3200 to 4000 then.

*I thought we would have Empath Lynx along with the other 5 featured on the site as well as kukkulous and Krunk instead of the three T0s that are shown.

Which Illuvitar on the site or these three is left out?

[alpine dew]

is that 1-4000 if you buy a standard disk? and better odds if you buy the mega? or no

[timber apex]

No. There are 100,000 standard alpha D1SKs so there should be a few. And maybe a few holo. Remember MegaD1Sk significantly increases odds.

[solemn blade]

https://illuvium.io/illuvitars

[timber apex]

The website is currently wrong and we are fixing it. I worked on it today. We switched the Illuvitars in the sale a while back and unfortunately the old version was there. We are deploying a fix.

[smoky verge]

Alright! Thank you

[solemn blade]

1 in 4000 would be for standard d1sk, so there should be ~25 rhamphyre from standard (maybe 1 or 2 holo), then mega d1sks which could be the same amount or even more. I'd wager ~50 rhamphyre total. maybe 5 with rarest expression. maybe none with t5 background

[timber apex]

That seems pretty accurate. Getting a holo rhamphyre alpha is likely. Getting a Blazing Holo Rhamphyre Alpha is not likely.

Getting a Blazing Holo Rhamphyre Alpha with T5 Background is not likely to happen.

Imagine getting that from a Standard D1SK though. Jeepers.

[patent dew]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-amy-poehler-the-house-gamble-dice-gif-8225039

[solemn blade]

Imagine getting 2 in a row

[eager vine]

we are all believers 🙏🏻

[short star]

is it designed to give you about the same value per eth? so there is no advantage to either buying standard or mega disks?

[storm flare]

Megadisks are more likely to get high power illuvitars, standard disks you'll end up with more total illuvitars but they'll be lower in power (if you spent the same amount of ETH on either a mega disk or multiple normal disks)

[timber apex]

Yes, but there is honestly no way to tell what people value.

If you buy 5 Standards and 1 Mega, your "total power" from the standards is going to be higher. So is that more valuable? Maybe. But you're more likely to get something towards the top end in that one Mega D1sk. is that better? Maybe.

[timber apex]

Yep. This. I think in the end a mix of both is probably good.

[hazy juniper]

Ah so the blog details the overall weights but since its calculated in steps it would technically run up the odds differently. Interesting

[timber apex]

After this wave when we see the values on the marketplace we could probably do a better job of knowing what people value them at.

Also right now I'd say people want rare, so maybe that is favouring megas. But with a pvp card game and the need to build a balanced deck, I'd say Standard is better. But I can't know for sure and none of this is financial advice.

[timber apex]

Each Tier will be slightly different. Rhamphyre should be 7.7% but is 6.25%. The Tier weights for this wave are not the same as the base, which attempts to make up for this discrepancy.

[storm flare]

So if we are only considering standard disks and it's roughly 8USD per standard disk atm - a rhamphyre might be worth 32k USD

[solemn blade]

mmmm not quite, it might cost 32k to FIND a rhamphyre, but all the other things you pull before that have value, too

I have no idea what the math is to estimate dollar value by rarity, I've not really done that

[storm flare]

That's true, forgot about that. It's going to take someone with huge wallet just to get all 25 illuvitars in this set

[smoky verge]

Ohh now i get it. Nice. 👍

For those wondering what, explained in general:

#💬〕general message

[solemn blade]

This is what I had assumed, and so that was the only reason I am actually planning on getting quite a few standard d1sks... accessory farming.

[timber apex]

Nobody does. There are just some cool maths that try to get close. In the end it's up to you to decide what something means to you. But if you get a holo Blazing Rhamphyre you better hide your keys from your sig other, because they are defs going to murder you.

[past tundra]

This American got Rekt. I’ll be working. Meh. It happens.

[valid sierra]

Afaik they changed it so it's better for you 😄

[smoky verge]

Take a day off. Or 2 or 3 to experience the entire alpha sale 😏

[past tundra]

Less than one week out. Nope.

[solemn blade]

I can't decide if alpha sale is going to last 5 minutes or not sell out after 3 days. (but at least I don't have to set an alarm for 2:55am anymore...)

[smoky verge]

Im just going to stay true to my convictions. Buy the amount i want right away and then see how things progress.

[timber apex]

I'm gunna come in here and cuss you all out if it sells out instantly. Because I have to be on hand for deployment so I won't be able to buy.

I will forgive you if you sell them at not too jacked up a price after the sale.

[smoky verge]

I intended to sell them at 95% because i would already almost make a 2X with my sILV2 buys. 👀
So dont worry. Ill undercut everyone else if they intend to go 100%+

Now you got me thinking though xD

[solemn blade]

I was just thinking maybe if you plot out every possibility, the "most common" can be considered one "unit". then you can use a multiplier based on rarity to see how many "units" everything else is worth. then divide total cost by sum of units, then multiply rhamphyre units by unit value = rhamphyre value.... brb

[past tundra]

West coast was only midnight.

I’ll be kind of free only a few hours after launch.

[timber apex]

You can do it!

[solemn blade]

where's the list of exact illuvials in wave 1? cause the site only has 25 which is a mix of T0 and others. don't tell me we're keeping them a secret for funsies

[timber apex]

That page will be updated tomorrow.

[solemn blade]

wow that list is even sorted in tier/line/stage nice nevermind it was up until krunk -> slashin

[smoky verge]

nice. Loulura was removed i see!

though i really liked Loulura :/

[timber apex]

Sorry bout dat

[errant stump]

Any confirmation about whether you can buy 10 alpha mega + 10 alpha standard in one transaction, or whether that would have to be two transactions?

[smoky verge]

Seems like there isn't a Stoic Lynx this wave, yet 5/30 stage 2/3 ones. There was no intention to feature 1 of each class?

[solemn blade]

I remember seeing confirmation that you can do up to 10 of each in one transaction, so 20 total

[smoky verge]

#814313779696238642 message

[errant stump]

Cool, good to know.

[vagrant knoll]

Do we know the percentages for Stages since they are off on the blog post? If Stage 3 is actually .0625 then what are Stage 1 and 2?

[remote egret]

Me too.. hopefully they don’t all sell out by the time we finish work 😅🥹

[solemn blade]

stage 3 is only .0625 in T5
I'll have it for you momentarily

wildly you have a better chance of getting a stage 3 T2 than a stage 2 T2

[vagrant knoll]

I guess because there are more of them.

[smoky verge]

Vermillia is stage 1 so 9 (tier 3)

[solemn blade]

this is from your site 😄

[vagrant knoll]

Those are the old names

[smoky verge]

outdated for names sorry

[solemn blade]

BAH

I was wondering when I couldn't find geyyser

[smoky verge]

was under the impression that geyserr was stage 2 actually but yep apparently stage 3 huh...

Will the backgrounds also work in the same stage-way as the Illuvials?

[past tundra]

Yeah. Or else we can spend eth on secondary.

[remote egret]

https://tenor.com/view/butidontwanna-idontwantto-gif-24051329

[past tundra]

I’m really not sure which Illuvitar I want the most.

[smoky verge]

how do you do the background rarity? or do you leave it out just to see which Illuvial you find and how rare those are?

[solemn blade]

OK please take values with a massive grain of salt. This is estimated value based only on standard d1sk pricing, does NOT take into account other items in the d1sk.

[storm flare]

You're a legend

[umbral holly]

Groovy, now pls delete, 😏

[storm flare]

Imagine pulling a geyyser and thinking this sexy beast is worth 2.5k

[solemn blade]

Because of the presence of mega d1sks we should have a larger quantity of higher tiers, so if you do a mix of megas and standards you don't have to sell high tiers for as much to break even. if you bought ONLY standards that's what you'd have to sell them for to not lose money (assuming T0s and accessories are worthless.... lol).

[pine crag]

Thank you this is a really good indication in my opinion.
Could also help finding good offers for people wanting to snipe the illuvidex.

Very helpful ❤️

[pine crag]

Imagine pulling 10 times in a row a lynx like Brycent 😉

[hardy solar]

Do we know which kind of combination is a power of 1000?

[solemn blade]

that's the problem, I can't include mega d1sks at all because we don't have a clue what the power of attributes are. so we have no way to figure out how likely it is that certain attributes get you above 1k.

[smoky verge]

Why wouldn't you give Atlas the 8$ value for coming out of a normal pack, and then dividing 8$ by the chance of obtaining the Illuvial?

Sorry I multiply 8 with 650 for Rhamphyre f.e

[solemn blade]

if the lowest highest chance is worth $8, the no other illuvial could be worth more than $8.
I took the assumption that every one of the 25 illuvials has equal value overall... not sure that makes sense though

[smoky verge]

we basically have the same values at the end of the day, but my values are multiplied by 4 😄
Wait this isn't right.

[rancid bison]

it is now releasing at 10PM UTC

Time changed

[tidal adder]

You want the probability weighted average value to be 8$ (assuming anything else in standard is worthless). So the most common has to be at less

[smoky verge]

basically what I did was multiply the relative rarity of the Illuvitars with 8 for no reason, as i'm looking through it

[vagrant knoll]

Here is what I have.

Adding Holo v Non Holo gives a bit more detail.

[tidal adder]

Thanks for the calculations. One question I meant to ask for mega disks (if anyone knows): is the probability distribution of illuvitars going to be the same and the 1000 points guaranteed through expressions and backgrounds? Am asking because we can end up with a weird scenario of having more overall high tier illuvitars than the standard disk distribution if that 1000 points is guaranteed through the illuvitar tier

[solemn blade]

Things I found interesting to help people judge relative rarity/values:

You have almost a 50% chance of getting T1 S1.
T1 S3 is ~3.5x more rare than T2 S3
You have almost 3x the chance of pulling a T1 S2 as you do a T2 S2.
You have a slightly better chance of pulling a T2 S3 than a T2 S2.
T4 S3 is more rare than T5 S2.
T3 S3 and T5 S1 are very similar in rarity.

[tidal adder]

Got it. I guess what matters is the multiples to floor 🙂

[solemn blade]

hey my first calculation had T1 S1 at $17 value for unlimited standard d1sks and rhamphyre was like $11,000. I said hmmm that can't be right.

[solemn blade]

my idea was to do the value of the individual illuvitar first.
that gives you the average value as your baseline.
then use that to redistribute the value across the other modifiers of rarity like expressions and background and such

[alpine dew]

how does buying a mega affect these numbers?

[vagrant knoll]

Both approaches work. Just slightly different pieces of data.

[smoky verge]

we would need the power values of each Illuvial, background, expression, finish and such to make calculations around that

[solemn blade]

We have no idea because we don't know how much power anything is. We don't know what is "rare"

[royal mountain]

Yeaaaaaah team heard our concerns about time of the beyond launch
Feelsgoodman

[umbral holly]

is there a max amount for alpha purchases per tx?

[ivory sorrel]

was looking for this. since i saw some post stating "rare" = 1000pts+

[smoky verge]

just had some fun checking the stages chances you were talking about

Cool to see that Axodon is pretty close to being as rare as a T4 stage 1 👀

But these values are purely if the Illuvitars could only be gained from regular packs. Please don't take these numbers as hard facts. They are just some fun initial calculations off the cuff!

[alpine dew]

I just need a holo squizz. to get it?

how many megas do i need to buy

[storm flare]

All of them

[solemn blade]

1 in 519,480 rhamphyres will have holo, rare expression, tier 5 stage 3 background

1 in 2 buh buh buh billion standard d1sks will pull a rare expression tier 5 stage 3 background holo rhamphyre

[fickle isle]

everyone behind their screens right now and for the next 3 days
https://tenor.com/view/math-thinking-zach-galifianakis-formulas-numbers-gif-7715569

[pastel pulsar]

So let me get this straight:

All Illuvitar accessories and backgrounds are interchangeable between the Illuvial Avatars? Or are is the background/some accessories bound to the individual illuvitar?

Similarly, the Founder Edition (or equivalent term) from Alpha d1sks is bonded to the Illuvial part of the illuvitar?

And finally, the difference between standard and Mega D1sks is that Megas come with a guarunteed rare instead of the standards extra tier 0?

[umbral holly]

Seems correct

I am not certain if backgrounds are tradeable

[solemn blade]

If you had all rhamphyrs in existence at their expected distribution of expressions/holo/backgrounds/etc, their total value would be $653 million dollars lmao

[smoky verge]

Where did you get the amount of background tiers and such?

[solemn blade]

it's in the beyond buyer's guide

[smoky verge]

Ahh

[solemn blade]

all right you guys ready for stupid?

[pastel pulsar]

As in tradeable amongst your owned illuvitars?

Can you trade and sell individual accessories on the marketplace by themselves?

[solemn blade]

if you take the average rhamphyre value ($1257) and you distribute it based on the rarities of the expressions/holo/backgrounds/etc the most common rhamphyre is $49.48 and the rarest is $7.2 million

[umbral holly]

I'm looking over the documentation right now. Lots to take in and I'm probably more confused than most here half of the time

[solemn blade]

the illuvitar picture and background are minted together. you cannot change backgrounds.
accessories are minted separate and you can bind whatever ones you want.

[umbral holly]

Still gonna drop an eth but no clue how to do it 😩

[solemn blade]

what is your goal? play eventual card game? super rare PFP hunting? collection game?

[pastel pulsar]

And also sell accessories individually? Is each accessory considered its own NFT?

[solemn blade]

yes until they are bound to an illuvitar. once bound you will only be able to overwrite them (eventually) which destroys em

[umbral holly]

I'm a collector, good sir 🧐

I also would like to have some long hold d1sks for speculation

[pastel pulsar]

Oh I see, that's interesting. Thank you!

[pastel pulsar]

Buying alpha?

[umbral holly]

I do wish to buy ALPHA for the short term speculation, not for collections

I'd probably split that into short/long holds

[solemn blade]

you will want a mix, because you won't get many rares going only commons, you'll end up with too many T0s probably. if you go too many megas you won't have enough accessories.

[umbral holly]

That's what I figured. When completing my GU collection I had to throw in mixes in my pack purchases

[pastel pulsar]

GU?

[umbral holly]

Gods Unchained. They sold cards in varying tiered packs. There was a sweet spot ratio for buying bulk

This alpha business kinda throws things for a loop. Assymetrical almost, but it's interesting.

[solemn blade]

starting to really notice how wildly illuvitars will vary. there's SO MANY background/colorvsholo/expressions variations... then with accessories. it almost feels like every single illuvitar will be unique

[umbral holly]

Yeah, it sounds exciting for aftermarket especially

[ivory sorrel]

what's the optimal way to get all the iluvials, the accessories does not appeal to me.

[umbral holly]

I suspect to get them all you'll want eth for aftermarket on IMX

And lots of it 😂

Will tokentrove support purchasing/listing with sILV2?

[solemn blade]

you would still need a mix imo. if you go only standards you'll fill out all the lower tiers and be missing high tiers.
what I would do is open standards until I had most of the lower tiers (maybe 50%+?) then go to megas
sell the extras as you get them, use that cash to buy ones you're missing

[valid sierra]

Don't think so, you can use sILV2 to mint. Not to buy secondary

[frosty knot]

I'm going 20 Alpha Mega, 10 Alpha Standard and a ton of Non-Alpha D1SKs to complete collections + Secondary yeah

[frosty knot]

I'll double check this, SILV2 has been listed on prod, so someone could list in SILV2 I think

[solemn blade]

interesting. alpha standard seems the least useful to me. alpha accessories will be useless, T0 alphas will be repeated and lose value over time

[ivory sorrel]

thanks!

[smoky verge]

I would start with mega's for T3-T5s. But that may be silly xD

[ivory sorrel]

i see one ILV land listed on IMX with silv2 though

[umbral holly]

If sILV2 is on IMX I feel like things could be listed for sILV2, would be great to get clarity on that for sure.

[alpine dew]

Only if all the alpha megas don't sell out in the first 3 minutes

[smoky verge]

You can already buy lands on IMX with sILV2 as long as people list it as that.

[frosty knot]

Just tested, you can list Illuvitars/Accessories/D1SKs in SILV2

[valid sierra]

Nvm me

[umbral holly]

If that's the case, that seems attractive to trade in sILV2 while minting window is open.

It also means people hoping to buy with sILV2 and flip for normal ETH price are in for a rude awakening

[smoky verge]

Yeah but it is a little weird. You buy tokens with sILV2, but when buying directly from the DAO it is 1/1 with ILV in buying power.

But if you buy from someone else, the dollar value and buying power will be less as it is equal to the market value of sILV2.

[calm cedar]

So rare illuvitars are basically ones that score over x points. Did anyone do the math on what's the chance to get that score from a regular disk? Or maybe how many disks you have to open to be expected to get a rare?

[umbral holly]

Oh right, that's a bit weird.

[smoky verge]

You would on avarage need 12 regular d1sks to get an illuvitar with a power rating of 1000+ as per the latest shared document.

[umbral holly]

So...one could mint with sILV2 and sell for even more sILV2 and mint even more. That's kinda wild

Now my brain hurts and I'm scared.

[frosty knot]

Mega is most certainly the way to go if hunting rarer Illuvitars.

I'm planning to buy standards to complete the collections, secure some of the Holo Tier 0's which look insane in their own right.

[smoky verge]

It is a bit strange for sure. But people may quickly realise this as well and rather buy d1sks directly with sILV2 rather than buying second hand for the same $ value in sILV2 but more sILV2 tokens. 🥴😵‍💫

[umbral holly]

Finding people who will buy your sILV2 listings would be the slickest trade move. But maybe people won't be that dumb

[smoky verge]

Cant hurt to try!!

[solemn blade]

Accessories!!!
Of course each accessory slot has the same tier/stage breakdown so the chances are all the same across slots.
Updated: There's 3 accessories in each d1sk. Added the chance to get at least 1 of specific accessory in a d1sk.

Ok my brain hurts, I need to take a break for some lunch.

[pseudo crown]

Where those data coming from ?

[alpine dew]

you must like spread sheets. crazy amount of work

[umbral holly]

I suspect $$ values will reflect the normal purchasing power of sILV2, not the listed ETH price, since it is true that people can trade opened Illuvitars with sILV2

May be good to plan for that scenario as well! just in case

[solemn blade]

I honestly think sILV2 value gonna skyrocket. the liquidity pool can only take so much people trying to churn sILV2 for d1sks

[umbral holly]

If I was grail hunting, I'd sell everything I opened at steal prices in sILV2 to keep minting

[solemn blade]

exactly that will last about a minute before it's got ILV parity

[umbral holly]

🫢

hol'up, buying sILV2

[solemn blade]

Land sale there was a TON of sILV2 floating around and sILV2 probably peaked in ratio at $195 while ILV was $269 which is a good 72%. We got a lot less sILV2 and already been sitting around 60% of ILV value. We should easily crush 72%, I can't imagine sILV2 not breaking at least 80% ILV, personally hoping we get straight to 95%.

[umbral holly]

I honestly think this is what people will be doing. The mint window is long enough that any sILV2 advantage will get arb'd.

Good exit liquidity for stakers though, probably will always stay under a good bit

[sonic shale]

I see they released drop rates, but what exactly is 'background tier' & 'background stage'.
Have they released images so we can visualize what all this is?

[faint badger]

Noobish question -- You CAN get a rare in a standard pack, but it's guaranteed in a Mega, correct?

[cunning pagoda]

FYI

[solemn blade]

backgrounds have tiers where the fancier looking ones are higher tiers.
then each background also itself can get fancier stage 1 stage 2 stage 3, each more rare than the last

So like a plain grey background might be T1, maybe stage 2 has some circles, then stage 3 has a glow around the circles

a T5 background might be gold hexagons, stage 2 has a shinier sheen to it, stage 3 radiates so much it melts your face

we don't have much details, I think a lot of this is kept under wraps for a surprise

[solemn blade]

correct the standard drop rates we have been given apply to a random illuvitar in a standard d1sk. (1 in 4000 for a rhamphyre)

the mega d1sk has a single random illuvitar with the exact same chances as the random from the standard
then it ALSO has a second illuvitar that rolls randomly the same way, and if it's under 1000 power it rerolls until it's over 1000

[faint badger]

Great spreadsheet work BTW, I am going to include the links in my video if it's okay with you.

[solemn blade]

sure

[sick apex]

hey, might be a dumb question but what is a so called "rare illuvitar" ? is it of higher tier ?

[sonic shale]

Yeah its all speculation.
You'd think it would be good marketing to showcase all of this before the sale to boost revenue

[solemn blade]

it's just rolls for all the attributes, and if the "power" is under 1000 it rerolls until it's over 1000.

[sick apex]

oh ok. So it's relevant from a future game performance standpoint but irrelevant for collection purpose right ?

[solemn blade]

yeah might have been cool if this part of the site allowed you to pick backgrounds

[solemn blade]

different rarities of attributes give more power. so rare background = higher power, rare illuvial (higher tier or stage) = higher power, rare expression = higher power

[sonic shale]

Yeah or just open up the part of the illuvidex to be able to see what all of the art looks like 🤷‍♂️

[solemn blade]

so you could get a T1 w/ rarest expression, super rare background, stage 3 and be a "rare" whereas a T3 might not be "rare" if it has the most common of them all.
T4-T5 is probably guaranteed to be a rare

[sick apex]

understood, thanks

[solemn blade]

they want to leave some things to be discovered, they just want to give hints

[sick apex]

but regular d1sks can also proc "rare" illuvitars right ? just no guarantee about it

[frosty knot]

Yes

[solemn blade]

absolutely. 1 in 4000 standard d1sks likely to get rhamphyre

[frosty knot]

That's why I'll be buying standards also, to secure Holo T0s with the additional option to proc some rares regardless.

We've seen a Standard proc 2 x Holo's on testnet during our QA

[turbid moss]

I am confused about alpha and normal d1sk. Is this correct?

so for Mega
Alpha is 0.125 ETH
Normal is 0.025 ETH

Alpha is limited to 20,000 for 3 days
Normal is unlimited printing for 3 months

[faint badger]

And the Alpha Megas are still a go, right? I know there was some contention there. It's not in the newest post.

[frosty knot]

Standard D1sks: 0.005 ETH

Mega D1sks: 0.025 ETH

Alpha Standard D1sks: 0.025 ETH (limited to 100,000)

Alpha Mega D1sks: 0.125 ETH (limited to 20,000)

[faint badger]

Thanks Nick. I wonder why they didn't just include those prices in the newest post.

[frosty knot]

If Alpha D1SKs sell out prior to the 72 hour window we transition to the Standard Extended Sale Phase (which lasts 3months)

[turbid moss]

What does it mean by transition to standard extended sale phase

so you mean the limited will be sold first

[faint badger]

Will Alphas have any extra usefulness in the album or the card game, or are they more or less just heirlooms?

[turbid moss]

they have the first edition limited stamps on them for Alphas?

[frosty knot]

Effectively first editions, similar to Pokémon Cards. Scarce, first runs.

[faint badger]

And the disks do expire over time if you don't open them, correct?

[pine crag]

no you can keep them 4 ever closed

[faint badger]

And does anyone know the answer to my previous question? -- Will Alphas have any extra usefulness in the album or the card game, or are they more or less just heirlooms?

Sry, I'm trying to get a video out by today.

[umbral holly]

Normal usefulness, with heirloom tag

they will trade very differently

[faint badger]

The mechanics of how they trade will differ, or the amounts they trade for will (obviously) be different?

[umbral holly]

Well, depends on a few things, but since the supply will be vastly less than the unlimited mint, they will be precious

[faint badger]

For sure

[umbral holly]

That's all that I meant

[faint badger]

nw, just want to put accurate info out there

Can't edit a video once it's made 😉

[cursive igloo]

Hi guys, quick question, once you have funds on IMX theres no need to have ETH in IMX since it is fee-less, right?

[frosty knot]

Correct

The platform fee is taken in whatever token is spent

[turbid moss]

where is the best to buy silv2 nowadays

[frosty knot]

I purchased on uniswap, can't speak to other dex

[turbid moss]

okay

is there a limit to how many alpha mega you can get?

[frosty knot]

10 mega & standard in each transaction

you can complete a transaction, immediately refresh and send another while the NFTs mint though

[turbid moss]

10 each

[frosty knot]

correct

10 of each in the one

20 total

[golden abyss]

May be a stupid question - what currency do I load onto imx? I have set up a wallet - what do I need in there to purchase the disks?

[frosty knot]

Eth/SILV2 in your IMX wallet

[golden abyss]

So I need to buy eth and then send to my imx wallet?

[frosty knot]

Yessir, bridge to IMX

Takes < 5minutes

[golden abyss]

Will it pull the funds from my metamask? If I have eth in metamask, will I be ok?

I think I have worked it out now - thanks for your help

[frosty knot]

This is on a browser I don't use btw, outdated bookmarks

[golden abyss]

Ok thanks

[turbid moss]

I can't find SILV2 in Uniswap

[main talon]

you need to use the contract address from #🔗〕helpful-links

[turbid moss]

How come I can't see SILV2?

[main talon]

paste the address instead

[turbid moss]

hmm..

It is in my metamask

just trying to find it in Uniswap to swap ETH for SILV2

[cursive igloo]

Just look for sILV2 here #🔗〕helpful-links message

[solemn blade]

sorry unrelated question, do you happen to know how many backgrounds there are of each tier?

[turbid moss]

got it

thanks. I had a space in front of the 0x

[golden abyss]

So are these cards going to be used in a future game ? Different from the actual illuvium game?

[turbid moss]

so no matter if you buy mega D1sk alpha or standard, they will give you the same random illuvitar, accessories and the rare illuvitar

so basically just buy 10 alpha Illuvitar mega Di1sk and 10 Alpha Illuvitar D1sk will give you the same chances as you will if there is no alpha just the limited edition

[golden abyss]

What time is the sale start in gmt ?

[mighty obsidian]

So are we 100% sure that mega discs will be more efficient at farming a Ramphyre than standard disks?

[turbid moss]

Should I stake my ILV rewards now so I can get more RevDis?

[mighty obsidian]

5x the price, 2x rolls but one roll rerolls until it is over 1k points

Fuck. @timber apex you created a perfect game for my gambling soul. I really want that super rare Ramphyre. People are going to spend loads of money on this. GG.

[boreal socket]

just deposited sILV2 on IMX..how long does it usually take to show up? guide said 10-15mins.

[umbral holly]

It's taken a lot longer for me before. Up to a day

[boreal socket]

copy that, thx!

good luck for launch @umbral holly may you find a holo

[light jacinth]

<t:1678226400:F> <-- your local time

[tribal bolt]

Gm will the sale last for a set period of time and is there a total supply?

[floral creek]

Alpha sale for 3 days. 20k Mega Disks and 100k standard Disks.

Then 3 months unlimited amount of both variants (without the Alpha - first edition stamp).

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/firefly-serenity-malcolm-reynolds-captain-tightpants-nathan-fillion-gif-4816189

[umbral holly]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-lets-talk-questions-animal-pet-gif-18559329

[pure rover]

Can you purchase Alpha Mega D1sk with silv?

So 0.48 silv x 5?

[brittle cargo]

Did I understand correctly that I can customize the background?

[past tundra]

sILV2 technically

[past tundra]

No I don’t think so.

[brittle cargo]

Ok, I was wondering. Thanks!

[pure rover]

ok thanks, so roughly 2.4 sILV2 for a Alpha mega D1sk

[past tundra]

At current ILV prices. Yes.

[pure rover]

ok awesome, last question if I buy say 3 Mega and 3 Standard Alpha d1sks can it be purchased with both Eth and sILV2 at the same time or just one of the two?

[agile kayak]

You can only use 1 currency per transaction.

[pure rover]

thank you

[agile kayak]

The background is fixed - You can't modify it.

There ARE a lot of backgrounds (100+) and they do have their own rarity (Tier + Stage)

[wanton hearth]

Hi can Silv2 be used to buy alpha disks?

[past tundra]

Yes

[wanton hearth]

Do we have an estimate of price in silv2?

[umbral holly]

what background will misprints in auction have, will it be random or the most rare?

[agile kayak]

Great question - @frosty knot any idea about this?

[pseudo crown]

Source ?

[solemn blade]

reveal stream happening now

[pseudo crown]

true, i'm busy right now can't watch it that's why.

[solemn blade]

they just opened some d1sks and bonded accessories to an illuvitar

[past tundra]

Yeah. The website shows the prices in eth. And then what happens is the website calculates how much ILV price is. Then uses that to determine how many sILV2 is needed.
Since the price of alphas is 5x the price of the standards than you can determine the sILV2 price for the alphas. https://illuvium.io/illuvitars

[calm cedar]

Did I get this wrong or are all 9k power illuvitars having to rock the same accessories?

[wanton hearth]

Thank you very much.

[light jacinth]

@wanton hearth if you want to track alpha prices as the underlining changes my goog doc updates automatically:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aiB8mpyRnwLuoXAjNWzGwCco13aG6yatha2bUwY8xPE/edit#gid=0

[wanton hearth]

That’s great thank you

[brittle cargo]

I would love it if the leaderboard didn't just show the top 100, but preferably all collectors. The first 100 will only be whales after all.

[calm cedar]

So close.

[solemn blade]

I saw people answering before I heard the question haha

[timber apex]

Random... unless you guys don't like that idea.

Also psyche. I hate you all!

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-baby-sleepy-babe-falling-asleep-fall-asleep-gif-25288703

[past tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-star-trek-gif-25584317

[slow steeple]

Did I hear that those with a private Beta key will receive something in this upcoming Illuvitar sale?

[timber apex]

Nope.

[solemn blade]

you get the opportunity to buy the limited run alpha d1sks!

[sick apex]

Hey aaron, i was wondering if beta tester will eventually get something ? like a badge or anything, not necessarily something worth any money, just a proof that "i was there when it all started"

or like a cosmetic/skin that we could wear on our avatar in open world

[mild herald]

thanks for all the calculations.

[errant stump]

So I did a test run of transferring sILV2 to IMX.

Am I right in thinking that as long as the withdrawal section shows my sILV2 then everything is ok?

The assets bit only shows ETH and USDC.

[wooden radish]

Yes that's right, you can also see your sILV2 balance on IMX Marketplace

[subtle blade]

Change of time for the Illivitar launch is so frustrating, why leave it so late? Im stuffed now and will miss launch as I had already planned my time but now due to late notice Im screwed.

[wanton hearth]

Has the marketing team sent out an updated email? I haven’t received one and am concerned that many people who don’t use twitter or discord may be unaware of the changes to the illuvitars sales time

[subtle blade]

Check website, they quietly updated the time but I saw announcement on twitter now 10pm

[wanton hearth]

When I check the website it is not updated.

[gritty gazelle]

how long will the alpha sale be?

[compact bone]

3 days or sold out

[gritty gazelle]

okey nice

[torn slate]

So it's now 9am AEST March 8 correct?

[subtle blade]

Who knows they will probably change it again 12mths out

12hrs out

[torn slate]

What are current thoughts on the most cost effective way to split between standard and mega disks? Although mega disks guarantee a rare, the new guide says you can expect a rare from a standard disk 1 in 12 times. I'm thinking it probably makes sense to get 10 standard rather than 1 mega disk to load up on accessories and get a variety of illuvials. Thinking of getting almost all standards and a few Megas to leave unopened.

[wanton hearth]

Your local time is actually displayed in upcoming events launch party. I had it wrong not In announcements.

[torn slate]

Yeah, although I totally understand when they delay releases due to quality, I think constantly changing dates like this undermines confidence in the illuvium brand. Flippantly changing the time just to slightly optimise for some countries was a bad move I think. Overall, I noticed they have been a lot more hesitant in leaking dates and estimates this last 6 months to address this.

[torn slate]

Thanks, I checked announcements and couldn't find it

[wanton hearth]

I’m not sure of the reason behind the changes. I just want to help get the word out as quickly as possible to get the best results.

[wanton hearth]

Yes my mistake I will delete that post to not confuse people

[strange roost]

What is so special about the "alpha mega d1sks"??

[alpine dew]

alpha disk will only be available for sale for the first 3 days or until sold out

100k standard alphas an 20k mega alphas

[umbral holly]

Do we have an idea of how much silv2 things will be going for?

[umbral holly]

Depends on price of ILV at purchase timr

Sorry I meant ILV price… lmao I knew silv2 was going to bounce wasn’t sure if the ILV was set or if that changes too

Oh, well there's so many things that effect that price it's hard to say

Probably best to overestimate if you want x many disks

It would be lame to plan for 10 disks, send just the right amount of sILV2 to imx the day before, then ILV dumps

So if eth is .025 then we would do the math to figure out what Ilv is based at that price right? So right now 0.025eth is .0477ILV so one d1sk would cost .0477 silv2?

Yep yep

Sorry it’s .477 not .0477

Beauty so ideally Ilv pumps day of and we get it for less

Thanks for your time boss 🙂

[wanton hearth]

Do we have to move our silv2 into our imx wallets or is it like land sale where it sees it in our MetaMask?

[valid sierra]

Move it to L2

[wanton hearth]

Explain to 5 year old please.

Is there a how to graphic or vid

[remote saddle]

I wonder if there is any thought of adding additional burn mechanism for accessories, i just feel like we are all going to end up with 20+ bandanas just sitting around collecting dust

[valid sierra]

Kieran posted a guide in #📣〕announcements

[wanton hearth]

Thank you. Now go to sleep

[naive urchin]

What would be the fees for selling illuvitars/accessories on the illuvidex? 2% iMX 2%illuviun 2%illuvidex (illuvium)??

[umbral holly]

2% IMX 3% Illuvium 0% Illuvidex

So 5% total

[terse reef]

trying to understand the "Alpha" d1sk aspect of this release. So those with Beta access will be given the opportunity to mint ALPHA D1sks is that correct? If so is simply connecting wallet all thats required for a Beta tester to see the Alpha option?