🎮〕illuvium-arena

[plucky dove]

😔

[low comet]

You’re like a week late. Sl1ckz and others just came back last week

[plucky dove]

I just didnt bought the sota deck, cuz didnt have sure of having another tourney

[noble hinge]

Hopefully Paz weighs in

[plucky dove]

I coundt play today, even if i have a deck

thats why😔

[sturdy robin]

you buy mine and play next week. people talk back and forth but they can't show a written rule. only Fox is mixing shit

and the rest would follow

[pseudo phoenix]

[zenith mortar]

Mine is according to previous rules, but Paz handled the tournament rules here....

[low comet]

Pretty sure there are still lots of good illuvials that are not used in today event

[zenith mortar]

so thats what i had

would need that paid board member to respond

[viral marsh]

so, main council answer - nothing to you?

[high snow]

You got one more game than me and Fury somehow managed to even play 2 more games 😄

[hot pond]

I am pretty sure Paz mentioned the rules about the usage of units

[languid sparrow]

I just came back from my 10 km run. Going to eat something, and then I’ll investigate the situation.

[noble hinge]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[hot pond]

I was searching for it, thanks

[low comet]

What I don’t like about this event is there’s clearly a lack of communication from people from authority. it doesnt feel like this event have any organizer. @languid sparrow is way way more active than you guys HAHAHAHAHA so disappointing

[viral marsh]

some people have time for 13th game, if finish fast others
and i have 2 games untill round 30

[high snow]

I only managed to play 11... 🙁

Some took forever

[zenith mortar]

Its saturday, and I tried to be as active as possible

[twilit storm]

look how many ghosts are back eh? nice

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-scooby-shaggy-velma-mystery-machine-gif-8389705654340543269

[low comet]

No worries im not pertaining to you. I know how hard you work for this project. Im looking for imc members

[noble hinge]

That's what happens when you get in the top 3 instead of the bottom.
I got to play more than you.😂

[distant geyser]

who is Aroldo?

[shut yacht]

you would think there would be a live leaderboard on the illuvium website for a 50,000 tournament

[zenith mortar]

they DM who they are

[shut yacht]

some recognition that it is happening, like a banner with lamborhinis driving around and half naked women or something

[zenith mortar]

Unfortunately there isnt time or resources for that

[zenith mortar]

thats clearly excluded our female participants

[primal flax]

and me?

[low comet]

@twilit storm was a good organizer though I hate it when he fights with his co-host

[primal flax]

lol I got 1 dc....

very fair xD

[shut yacht]

guys, resources to market your sponsored tournament will multiply your playerbase

at the very least, show that its happening somewhere other than discord

i played the whole time today and still have no idea my own rank

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/i'm-just-a-minor-evil-guy-luci-disenchantment-i'm-just-a-little-bad-man-i'm-only-a-little-bit-evil-gif-11724305746993363340

co host? nah..I fight randomly just for fun.

[shut yacht]

where do we find this and how?

[viral marsh]

when i try find info about past IPL using a neural network , i can find only info about Ascendant tournaments in 2023-2024

[sturdy robin]

ok, then I'll tell Narkesh my password and he'll play for me. Np

[safe valve]

Sounds Like a shitty neural Network 😂

[low comet]

Tholky and Erika hahaha thatswhy I always deafen while playing you’re fighting is distracting hahahaha

[zenith mortar]

Quants is passionate

[noble hinge]

I'm no expert on this but I think if you are going to cheat you are supposed to do it quietly.🤣

[sturdy robin]

and a joke that a comment is the proof. why wasn't it in the announcement or somewhere official where everyone can see it?

[shut yacht]

ty btw

[sturdy robin]

Joke

[noble hinge]

Actually I do agree with that, it should have been written in the main rules.

[low comet]

The worst is when datakingz is bugging and youre not around. And quants is stressed out

[zenith mortar]

I tried but alas I always said i wasnt a dev

[twilit storm]

it was a nightmare

[zenith mortar]

just a smooth brain with an ai

[twilit storm]

and money on the line was the cherry on top for my poor heart

[safe valve]

Usually posts in discord counts as unofficial and not to follow or taken as Set in Stone

[outer sphinx]

damn... so many games i got farmed by fox 🤣

[low comet]

Broo why did you fought him head on. I want to see you in top 14

[sturdy robin]

I will be the same as the rules, but my deck will definitely be rented out. I will explain it the same way.

😆

[outer sphinx]

he sniped me

[viral marsh]

i think much of people watch when i start game, and then click find game.
at lest i know 1-2.

[languid sparrow]

This event we run low on brasil players i'm pretty sure. Normally they dominated the player pool by country.

[sturdy robin]

this is his life

[outer sphinx]

i sometimes do too but, you still got in my lobbies 🙁

[safe valve]

He was just exp farming 😂

[low comet]

We have like same not so good illuvials so I know how you feel playing against him hahaha. Like when you want to play umbre but you know your umbre is shit hahahaha

[outer sphinx]

true

[outer sphinx]

yaaaa

[viral marsh]

not this time.
but my brain tell me - put this unit on board, he need exp....

[plucky dove]

yeah, I like play tournaments. Thats why im back 👍

[twilit storm]

who? the guy going afk in the middle of the event? ah..ye remember, and btw i never had any beef with @iron kayak during the IPL, she saved the day multiple times, trust me

[safe valve]

I was struggeling a bit with that too... Sometimes realized i was playing fliish in round 16 or so 😅

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-hmph-surprised-gif-11575208297458642114

[low comet]

It’s not like youre having a beef. Your accent maybe sounds like youre mad. Like latinas

[twilit storm]

hahahaha

[plucky dove]

https://tenor.com/view/warning-evil-inside-warning-evil-logo-gif-17473553

[twilit storm]

got it..damned italians

[zenith mortar]

Ive realised its italians

they just sound angry

quants is a teddy bear

[twilit storm]

so true

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-27418894

this teddy bear

specifically

[twilit storm]

it s me (when I was young)

[low comet]

hire quants for main event. The team will pay you a shoutout not money

[viral marsh]

did anyone stream today qualifications?
i think it's why we should play Lambo boards.

[twilit storm]

@viral marsh Sylen

[viral marsh]

but he play.
i mean observe games 1 by 1 etc

[twilit storm]

we had only him actually streaming

[low comet]

Everyone was focus

Even fox used 90% of his brain

[turbid osprey]

I forwarded the convo and situation to paz @sturdy robin @plucky dove ultimately its his decision as hes the organizer of this tournament

As i said earlier and the previous paz/filo comment that others posted say is that its the rule that illuvials are tied to you once played at any stage. I dont know where are the rules but it should be in there

[viral marsh]

can i also rent my team as well? for 2nd window

just to help some guildmates get 250

[torn flume]

does the level of ranger matter too?

[viral marsh]

if you allow to 1? why not allow to other?
why you change rules?

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/bop-bop-bop-shoebody-bop-squad-summon-dark-magic-gif-13983602502478731881

we need to summon @vivid stirrup

[sturdy robin]

I don't read all the comments. And there is no such post anywhere in the official site. It would make sense if I was in the top 14 today. Then I shouldn't be renting out the deck. But I'm out. What's the logic in not being able to rent it out when I can't play with this deck anymore? 🙂

Worst case scenario, I'll create another account where I'll send all my illuvitars and other valuables and give him the password...but is that necessary now?

[viral marsh]

should give your discord for him as well.
i think we should stay on discord if pass qualifications. for 1/4 1/2 etc.
and then, if "Hector" stay silent all time - it will be strange. and i'l start asking questions

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/favorite-person-summon-me-trying-to-summon-my-favorite-person-gif-13400151336277448404

[plucky dove]

its ok, thanks mate

[sturdy robin]

I see you're afraid of him.

😉

I'm not surprised after all. He's the world champion, not you.

https://tenor.com/view/ashtonthwaites-ashtonstutter-gif-2779108842501065703

[viral marsh]

i don't care about him.
it's much good prepared players around. and he play 0 games on deck, and come after half year brake.
and then when he play water-umbra he realised how this unit nerfed.

i care about rules. and it's dothen matter is it my friend try break it, or opponent.
i just bring topic here.
and after - i'm bad that try follow rules?

[torn flume]

Can ramger be bought

[sturdy robin]

you are not bad but for me the rule is what is stated in the official place. just like the fact that the use of the battleboard is mandatory. I read the announcement, the info on illuvidex but I don't read all the comments. This was an oversight and not my fault or responsibility!

[viral marsh]

ranger scale of your deck overall lvls. 240units.
you can't buy ranger.
but you can buy all this units and lvl-up them, so your ranger start geting lvl

[torn flume]

Ohhh so if I buy one of each

And level it all

My ranger level

I see

[noble hinge]

If you want to play to level now is the time to do it.
People left and it is bot farming season.

[torn flume]

Huhu bots contesting my comps

Hhh

[viral marsh]

1. it's logical.
2. this question about send illuvials/buy them after you play tournament around from first leviahtan tournaments.
3. it's why i start ask questions about it as soon as Lambo tournament was announced, just think a bit, and ask around instead of doing.

[vale zephyr]

Good Luck Ax3L, you did well for your collection. I drunk 10 beers during the qualifications, is there a prize for that? 🍻

[timber turtle]

Is FancyPants an OG player?

[vale zephyr]

https://giphy.com/gifs/agree-renzufu-dacc-zmVgFyJ4WevoU021NV

[vale zephyr]

He played the worlds

[timber turtle]

Because his Illuvials are so low

[sturdy robin]

I'm not asking about something that doesn't even cross my mind. If it's so important, why wasn't it mentioned in the official posts?

[timber turtle]

Compared to his skills

[sturdy robin]

It's illogical and obvious to me that I wouldn't even consider such nonsense. My own nfts. I do what I want with them. But there's no point in arguing about this. Then the team will respond.

[torn flume]

Who qualified

On top 14

[languid sparrow]

Yes, according to the data, unfortunately there were only 58 different players who scored points. We had 225 wallets with an entry ticket, but during the first 6-hour qualification window, only 58 actually played at least one ranked match. The leaderboard only counts ranked matches played within that specific 6-hour period.

[languid sparrow]

I'm currently cleaning up the code to make the visual cleaner so we can show the 14 eligible players for the first week of qualifications in a single image but you can see by your self here: illuvivault com/tournament.

Image is the Top 10.

[mellow star]

Seriously, the cheater is the tenth, let's not joke, what else are you looking for on the list?

[languid sparrow]

Haha honestly the 10th player looks very suspicious to me. When I scan his wallet, no Illuvials show up at all — no assets, no levels, no PPI. That’s pretty strange considering he finished top 10 with multiple 1st and 2nd place finishes.For someone performing at that level with zero visible Illuvials (which means no stats ..really... how the hell ?), it’s either an insane understanding of the game… or something’s not right. Definitely worth investigating."

found him, it's a know player name.

[hot pond]

Seriously who is the aroldo guy? No assets whatsoever?

[viral marsh]

i play vs him some games

[languid sparrow]

Bot ? Lol..Who can perform like this wiht deep knowledge of the game.

[hot pond]

No matter how good you understand the game, with lv1 units he can never win a match

[viral marsh]

he almost beat me in 1 or 2 games....

[hot pond]

I didn’t see him in any of my games

[hot pond]

With lv 1 units?

[languid sparrow]

If he's on leaderboard he player during the window of 6 hours qualification #1.

[hot pond]

He does have assets then but they don’t show up properly?

[viral marsh]

i should use this technology next time, to go in shadow

[languid sparrow]

Why are you saying he have assets ? How can you confirm this ?

[viral marsh]

i can confirm it. i check it in game

[hot pond]

Well fox said he didn’t have level 1 units

[languid sparrow]

Source...

[noble hinge]

@wild kiln It is embarassing that I fell for that move at the end. Long day.
GG

[wild kiln]

gg @noble hinge

[timber turtle]

He jad like level 40 units

Had

Aroldo

I saw a couple 40s at least😆

[viral marsh]

and most 50-55

[hot pond]

Which page is this

[viral marsh]

Ratty

[torn flume]

He got leveled illuvials 49+

[languid sparrow]

We can track who he's or related to using the blockchain if we really want to know in the end.

[viral marsh]

i know who is it from 1st time people start talk about him in this chat.
and he not transfer units. just rename i guess.

[hot pond]

Must be a rename, he has 130 matches played already too

[languid sparrow]

It's not the same wallet on the image... 0x273a7a0a4155ea7aec836c8d64f48e510de41a99

[viral marsh]

looks like 2 Aroldo around.
who is real>?

[sturdy sail]

?

[timber turtle]

Hello Aroldo

[vivid stirrup]

the sit&go is not organised by us, it has been outsourced to datakingz.

that said, it makes sense to keep the rules the same as in prior sit&go's.

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

here the rule was mentioned. I am sorry it was not highlighted better via notifications on official channels. Definitely should have been.

[sturdy robin]

I agreed with Narkesh that I would rent him the deck, but since there are two qualifications, I told him that I would try the first one. If I can, I will send it to him before the current qualification... (although I still don't understand what the point of this is)

[vivid stirrup]

This rule was created to stop multi-accounters from qualifying multiple times with the same illuvials on different accounts.

To be fair though, it is not perfect, ideally we would have stated that illuvial teams are locked once you qualify with them, since that achieves the same thing but leaves room for people to not play twice and rather try once and then rent/sell if they fail.

[sturdy robin]

the battleboard and everything else was mentioned here. if this nonsense is so important then why wasn't it written down bro?

[vivid stirrup]

which leaves us now with the classic dilemma, do we change the rule to improve the tournament or stick to what was said.

Both options will leave someone burned so it is a hard decision to make.

it doesn't have to be decided right now so i will talk to imc and update you asap.

Off the top of my head I think a simple community vote might be the best.

[sturdy robin]

all of this would make sense if i had qualified now. then narkesh wouldn't be playing with this deck because two different players are qualifying with the same deck. but i didn't make the top14. so i don't see the logic

[ashen mango]

I thought that I had still time to rent illuvials for the event in 2 weeks, I can't sell or lend my illuvials but can I still rent some that have not been used in this qualifier? @vivid stirrup

[sturdy robin]

unnecessary bro. did you see what the majority wants. they don't want another pro player to compete with them

[vivid stirrup]

because this was added afterwards, and didn't warrant a new blog post/announcement.

this is similar how we have successfully communicated changes over the whole IPL season, that's why it was the go-to for this rule addition as well.

but like i said above definitely a mistake to not make it more visible by spamming it in chat or via official announcement.

[sturdy robin]

This whole system is opaque and confusing.

[viral marsh]

how you can know, did someone use them or not?
let's say i have 2 Jotun, but use only 1. can i send 2nd to someone?

[timber turtle]

If u send to me yes

[vivid stirrup]

that is where we stand right now yes.

we might open this up to any illuvial teams that were not used to qualify, but this will need 1-2 days to be decided.

[ashen mango]

The owner hasn't participated today and hasn't sent his illuvial to someone else, that's how I know it wasn't used

[viral marsh]

have feeling, that should check every qualified person wallets, after 2nd week.
if i not come with this thing i see, people probably abuse it.
and now something start with decision allow it or not....

[sturdy robin]

this was not well thought out. There are better ways to filter out cheaters. this is nonsense. if I get into the top14 now then either narkesh or I can't play in the tournament with my deck. I'm not a cheater. the communication was bad and my calculations are now being distorted by this story

Narkesh asked me and I told him I would only rent it out next week.

[viral marsh]

have other question.
is it allowed to players who qualified today play next week?
let's say Sota or me decide to block strong player: Nareba/Furyz as example.
then we start snipe them and play with contest units/not let get 1st place.

[sturdy robin]

If this weird rule that makes no sense was communicated in a normal way, he would have been playing today.

[sturdy robin]

I hope that wasn't a question. If it were even possible, this competition would be the biggest chaos I've ever seen in my life.

[vivid stirrup]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[noble hinge]

Yeah, that is my question too. It would be nice for the people who didn't make it to not get beaten out by the top 14 again.😬

[sturdy robin]

qualification!!! why does a qualified player want to qualify again?

🤷🤦

[timber turtle]

Yeah, get the top 14 out😈

[noble hinge]

$250.

[vivid stirrup]

we will look into this, thanks for bringing it up!

[sturdy robin]

Can he say anything else? No 🙂

[viral marsh]

unlucky, and i hope to block Narkesh if he rent deck.
Hector made me angry with his "bro"/"you not win IPL finals"

[sturdy robin]

honey believe me i didn't invest 250 dollars in this project and my life is not going to depend on it. i wanted to have fun with my own deck...

[noble hinge]

I am not talking about you. I am talking about why people would want to qualify twice.

[timber turtle]

[sturdy robin]

• I wouldn't have a problem with the rule if it had been posted normally. I don't read comments, I read announcements, news, etc.

I have a lot of illuvials but I promise that I won't even start with a secondary deck in the next qualifier if Narkesh can play my deck

Deal? 🤝

I wanted to try my deck in full lobbies. Too bad I only found out the rules afterwards.

🙁

[vivid stirrup]

I promise you all an update to the voiced concerns above by monday, thank you for bringing all this up, ultimately we will end up with a better and fairer tournament thanks to this.

[timber turtle]

Enjoy your weekend now bro

[sturdy robin]

otherwise my current name and account will be his account. Narkesh will become Hektor, and I will be anonymous from now on. I will make another account and transfer everything else, leaving only the deck here. I will tell him the password....that could also be done

[vivid stirrup]

Worst case you can play again next week and have fun. It's gonna be way easier since many of the top players are already qualified.

[noble hinge]

Unless they are allowed to play again...😂

[sturdy robin]

Thanks bro 🤜🤛🙏

[languid sparrow]

If someone really want to block strong player: they can do it. Even with new account... people can do such immoral thing when money is on the table and hidden on internet.

[sturdy robin]

I just wanted to have fun but it was good to get some money back that I can invest back into the project. Narkesh would have been a contender in the finals. I'm a weak arena player

😅

[vivid stirrup]

The team does have a lot of data they can check in the backend to find griefers/cheaters. I think most people won't risk getting their main accounts banned for something like this.

[viral marsh]

strange, why with LB multiaccs nothing happened.
or it's different?

on IPL last chance qualified was same.
until community find it's 2 "new names" win much of games for extra slot, and start talk about them here, no one care about them.
so question: "team does have a lot of data they can check" - did they check it by themself all time, or start check only if people start talk about that.

[sturdy robin]

I don't mean to offend anyone by the way, but when we have a name like Lamborghini in our pocket, I expect a little more serious announcement, regulations, etc. This whole conversation shouldn't have happened if everything was organized professionally and we were adequately informed.

p.s. I'm not talking against you Paz, you know I like you and I don't expect everything to come to mind for one person

🫂

only then no one will hold me responsible

🙂

and let no one limit my nfts

[vivid stirrup]

if you see anything suspicious feel free to bring it to our attention.

We are looking but even santa needs helpers sometimes 😄

[languid sparrow]

@vivid stirrup Do we know more about the **mysterious 4 open slots **?
Semi Final is with 32 players

Qualification #1 = 14 players
Qualification #2 = 14 players

[vivid stirrup]

Those are for Pro's. / Streamers invited by Illuvium

[languid sparrow]

Will they own illuvials ? Or be throw in the jungle just like that on steam lol

[viral marsh]

i can say it now, like prediction.
have to check every wallet of 28 qualified person before main part start.

before we can check with immutascan.
and how it's possible check now, beside of illuvidex? on zkvem

[sturdy robin]

Maybe content producers. youtubers 🙂

[vivid stirrup]

They will be provided I believe

[sturdy robin]

Fox, if you're such a pro about the rules, you could have told me in time.

😉

[languid sparrow]

I think Aroldo is a well-known player. I figured out who it is, so there’s nothing really special about it. It’s just that the name has this mysterious aura around it… but with the blockchain, you can see everything.

[viral marsh]

you not ask, why i should told you?
or i have dm everyone and ask do they know all rules?

as soon i see you play - i say to you

[sturdy robin]

Tomorrow I'll also ask if it's allowed to buy disks or not? There are things that are clear.

🙂

[sturdy robin]

when the qualification was already...again. in Time 🙂

[viral marsh]

do i have to tell it?
or do i have go around everyone and tell it?
i'm you trainer?

i can even not tell it to you today, and not tell about it on discord.
and next week, when you give deck and he qualified - then my time to come with my investigation, and his disqualification.

[ashen mango]

Playing next week is also interesting for training, not only to block people or qualify twice
If I'm allowed to play I'd like to get tough lobbies in order to practice

[viral marsh]

i agree, it's good training time.
but how you can tell - people just play, or try to block each other?

[sturdy robin]

After such a vague and non-communicative statement, I could come up with twice as many counterarguments as the arguments you would bring. I'm a lawyer. I won't let the truth slide so easily.

[sturdy robin]

Qualification is qualification. It means that a qualified player has no business being there. 🙂

[viral marsh]

I see only rage and anger towards me from your side.
is lawyer so emotional all time?

[ashen mango]

We are qualifying by playing ranked, does it mean that I'm forbidden to play ranked during the next sit&go? @vivid stirrup

Also what about the seeding? I tried to get a good placement with the hope of having advantageous seeding

[mellow star]

Fairness dictates that qualified players should not play in the next qualifier.

[ashen mango]

If let's say 4 of the 8 strongest players get the same quarter finals lobby it would be devastating for some of them

[viral marsh]

it will be reseeding after every game?
snake-draft.
like on IPL, i see it somewhere.
or we will play all 3 games on same lobby

[ashen mango]

I remember that we were allowed to play in the 2nd Sit&Go last year even when we were qualified during the first one

If we got into qualifying spots, we would just not count

[noble hinge]

I don't blame you guys at all for wanting to play to get practice. But you can't blame us for not wanting you there.😂

[high snow]

I tried to clarify that in advance. The question would be how you compare the 2 qualification rounds?

[viral marsh]

previous time they just remove players from count if they qualy 2nd time, and next in list got slot.

[ashen mango]

I don't blame you, I just want as good practice as possible since ranked games are very different from tournament games

Today we had some really interesting games

[viral marsh]

time for scrims?

[high snow]

I mean in terms of seeding. As an example, would rank 1 from the second weekend be rated lower than the 14th place today because it is way easier? But if someone just had no time to play today he would be at a disadvantage

[viral marsh]

it was problem of previous qualifications as well.
at night EU time it was less competitive games/people got less points, so people just skip 1st and come to 2nd window.
same happened as well today.
i see how 3-4 persons play 2-3 games, and then stop and say - "next week will be easy, no reason spend time today"

[twilit storm]

the problem arise coz even if we do not count players already qualified but let them play the next qualifier, they can be an huge obstacle and unfair opponents for the players willing to qualify during the 2nd phase

[high snow]

yes, that's why I tried to clarify it beforehand.

[viral marsh]

but if being honest. it's almost no competitive.
how much players with positive points today? 50?
and it's 28 slots.
don't know why we have 2 week qualifications

[sturdy robin]

Guild lobby 😉

[twilit storm]

we should flag them and not letting them play during the next qualifiers but they can use other names or other accounts and play to counter and study the other players

[ashen mango]

Yeah maybe

[languid sparrow]

58 positives players points.

[twilit storm]

based on how many totl players'

or 58 total?

[languid sparrow]

From position: 209 to 225 negative zone.

Some players managed to have a final score of 0.

[viral marsh]

58. but 10 play less that 6 games

[languid sparrow]

More that 58 for sure

[viral marsh]

people who got 0 or less can't pass

[sturdy robin]

You're right too, but you haven't been emphasizing these rules until now. If it was that important to you, you should have brought it to the team's attention so they could properly inform people. A single comment is not communication, it's not proper notice. I'm not angry, but I don't like when someone only looks at their own interests and doesn't consider how others might be affected. I know you want to win, you're a good player (probably the best right now), you've invested a lot of time into this project, and all that. But that's exactly why you don't need to play Sherlock Holmes. Or if you're really that dedicated, then you should apply to work for Illuvium. 🙂

[viral marsh]

when i tag any of team member - they usually just ignore me

[twilit storm]

you ignore me too (but ai am not a team member tho)

[sturdy robin]

In that case, neither of us is at fault. 🤝

[viral marsh]

i answer for most of question, especially if tag me.
and even talk to much, and people black list me for that. xD
so strange comment

[viral marsh]

not agree.
i'm not start insult and disrespect you.

[languid sparrow]

**Total player during the Qualification #1 of · Motorverse Cup **

Positive score: 58 players:
Negative score: 16 players
Some players with score of 0= 2 players

58 +16 + 2 = 76 players @tawny dove

14 / 76 = 18.42% chance to be qualified.

I just realize we have tie in rank 14, 3 players.

[sturdy robin]

The problem is your attitude sometimes. Several people have already pointed that out 🤪

[viral marsh]

negative score mean players got 7-8 position.
it's mean they play same as bots.
why not count bots as well?
also have 2-3 players which looks like bot's as well, but not ussual: with new names and lvl1 units.

[languid sparrow]

Bot don't own battle board.

[viral marsh]

only people who involved in dirty things.

[viral marsh]

i think we talk about chance of qualified.
but bots/negative score players = not reduce chance of qualified.

let's say it will be 200+ more lvl1 players, then chance to qualified depend of random.
3-4 strong players meet each other every game.
and 3-4 other play in 7/8 lvl1 players every game.
who will qualified?

[twilit storm]

was kidding fox..just kidding

[viral marsh]

and then people made decision " Several people have already pointed that out" i'm bad guy.

[languid sparrow]

To much speculation for me 😜

[sturdy robin]

fresh air

[outer sphinx]

@arctic steppe bro chill, i wanted to lvl some units..

[mellow bolt]

Dang a lot of messages what’s did I miss ??

[arctic steppe]

mee too, I still need a lot of XP to have a chance next Saturday 😅

[arctic steppe]

Bro, forget about me please, I don’t even have a chance of making it to the finals lmaooo

[outer sphinx]

i feel you bro

[sturdy robin]

and a lot of Narkesh for me to have a chance

🤣

[sturdy robin]

did you read the discussion about the "new rules"? joke

[hollow bluff]

This list is incorrect. During the tournament I played 11 matches, but only 4 of them are counted.

[wild kiln]

this screenshot is old, yeah. I think Linky made a small mistake — he’ll probably fix it when he comes online

[tawdry sinew]

Lots of games are missing for a lot of people on this list...

[noble hinge]

Yeah I did a refresh and took a screen shot right after 1:00 and I had this for the top 6.

Now I wonder if it is accurate?

[hollow bluff]

I checked the website and it says so, I don't know what happened but I preferred to leave the message because I know how many points I scored in the sit and go and that I'm qualified.

[sturdy robin]

You are always attentive. That's why I like you 😇🤗

• nature

🤷😅😜

[noble hinge]

If I were really attentive I would have done the top 14.😂

[sturdy robin]

You can play with me 1v1, I’ll send you the code.

😜

code: I love you Hector 🤣

[noble hinge]

I think you misspelled: "I love my husband"🙂

[sturdy robin]

I thought you already knew my jokes. 😛

[sturdy robin]

btw, I love your husband too

🤣🤣🤣

[noble hinge]

You have a lot of love in you. We do need a 1 vs 1 though and we need to bring our own Illuvials.

[sturdy robin]

I'm going to bed before I write any more nonsense. It's almost morning. At this hour and after a qualification like this, I tend to write nonsense.

🤣

[noble hinge]

The tournament was morning for me. You must be exhausted. Have a good sleep.🙂

[sturdy robin]

Have a nice day/night 🥱✨ 😗

[mellow bolt]

Yessss omg makes the most sense

[jolly whale]

Eeewww.... daylight.... hurts eyes....

[languid sparrow]

Top 14 for qualification weekend #1 of MotorVerse Cup

[mellow bolt]

When is the next one

All of them can’t play next week ?

[dusty flame]

@mellow bolt u in game

[low comet]

Guys What was the meta last night? What comps dominated the qualifiers?

[torn flume]

it was corner comps sir

[hot pond]

Congrats to the qualifiers and good luck for the others next week with less competition 🤣🤣

[jolly whale]

Anything with Scoriox... Verdant/Aegis.... Inferno/Arcanite.... Magma/Aegis .....Mystic/Granite

I did get rocked by one of the ola guys running Water/Umbre/steam with the pistol shrimp

Cant seem to replicate that build so well myself

[native mauve]

Looking forward to not playing one of Spoon/Sota/Slickz almost every game!

but think its still gonna be SUPER competitive for the mid-range people, probably gonna need way higher totals to get through!

[hot pond]

Do we have the clear ruling now about how it is with trading units if you are in the tournament?
I would buy some T0 S3 for the collection where I would assume nobody has been using them anyway in the matches? @vivid stirrup

[mellow bolt]

Yes but just rolling and wishing

Dumb game the rolling thing makes no sense to me just let me get my team n play it’s not fun for me to just be wishing and waiting I get a lucky roll smh

[low comet]

I think fox spam pistol shrimp hahahaa he likes water because the meta was fire i think

[low comet]

I think its fine if you will buy anything you want because youre already wualified

[high snow]

How did you solve the tiebreaker? Rich said I won the tiebreaker based on the "normal" rules

[low comet]

Truee. When the competition is easy, everyone gets high score so you need high score too

[hot pond]

Wasn’t there a post from rich about tie breaker with avg placement?

[high snow]

y but on linkys screenshot I am not there 😄

I was sleeping so I just wanted to double check with linkky if anything changed

[hot pond]

https://tenor.com/view/hugh-laurie-oops-oh-my-gif-11335011

[jolly whale]

Data kings had you at 14th... Not sure if thats official

[languid sparrow]

Next event: Qualification #2, same time but 1 week later:

About who can participate, I think illuvium team must give us more clarification here.

[languid sparrow]

I did not solve it, I just forgot about it 😅. The event/rules managers are the ones who can provide more clarification on it.

[high snow]

ok then I should be fine as Rich stated I should win the tiebreaker based on average placement 👍

[languid sparrow]

Furyz played 13 games. Max was 12 but at the same time the rule saying: offering participants unlimited matches within the active windows to secure their spot on the leaderboard.

If we compare You:
Wolverine777HYPE vs AX3L.APEX you perform better more rank 1-2.

I will add those micro rules in the code so the next time, it will clarify it automacticly. + add a little visual for tie.

[high snow]

My games were also super long so I only managed to play 11 games

[languid sparrow]

To be honest I don't know who is the 14th position yet.

It's all come to this I guess...

[torn flume]

@languid sparrow sent you a dm sir, about the lobby stuff

[ember sail]

conducting a case study, the conclusion reached by the chat with the screenshots

FoxSpirit:

More intelligent/adaptive player.

Hollowghini:

More aggressive/meta-abuser player.

Hollow has been that type of player for a long time, it's a coincidence, lol.

[languid sparrow]

Based on which data ?

[ember sail]

yeah

I used some screenshots from the website and posted them in the chat to compare...

[languid sparrow]

Hey team,
We have a tie for 14th place between Furiz and Wolverine.
Both have 3 first place wins and 3 second place wins.
Furiz has 2 third place wins and played 13 matches. Wolverine has 0 third place wins and played 11 matches.
The rules:https://portal.illuvium.io/news/the-motorverse-cup-tournament-structure said unlimited matches within the 6-hour window, so both are technically valid.

Avg points:
Furiz: 3.4 pts
Wolverine 777: 4.0 pts

What do you want to do in this case? Thanks! @vivid stirrup @zenith mortar

[languid sparrow]

So data are coming from team composition ?

[ember sail]

yeah

[languid sparrow]

And how do you determine the intelligente,adaptative, agressive and "meta abuser (subjective name here not objectif)"

[ember sail]

I sent some more screenshots and the chat changed its mind; it's not a unique composition, there are more variations. I think I must have sent a sequence with fewer samples. When I sent a few more, it saw other compositions and realized it was more flexible. Anyway... the site is important for adapting and discovering the meta. I hadn't played in a long time and need to study to understand more.

[ember sail]

That's what the chat said; it's not a personal opinion, but based on some screenshots, that's how he came to his judgment.

[languid sparrow]

Yeah, it’s missing a lot of context. To properly analyze a match, you need way more than a screenshot — the position, remaining players, augments, lobby difficulty, who they played against, etc. You can’t accurately judge if someone’s just playing smart from an image alone.

[ember sail]

Yes, I agree, especially since it's a difficult machine to be precise in some aspects.

[primal flax]

Yeah but I disconnected from a game I think it was epic games fault, in my opinion who gets better placements should go through, but I’m fine with whatever the team decides, just want a fair and fun experience

[whole palm]

Hii. One quetion, I have a second illuvial, I didn´t use that one yesterday, can I transfer to other player use? @vivid stirrup

[sturdy robin]

If this works then I can still rent out half my deck. I'll see what I used. 🙂

[viral marsh]

i use only 20 illuvials yesterday, can i send other 220 to other player?

[low comet]

I agree, and sl1ckz is the mix of both

[vivid stirrup]

Sit&Go is handled via Datakingz

[vivid stirrup]

Not if it was locked into the team you played your qualifiers with. Does not matter if it was deployed on the board or not. Any illuvial used in any stage of the tournament is locked to the respective account.

[vivid stirrup]

Trade on your own Risk, Illuvials that have been used in a team that played in any stage of the tournament are locked to that account.

[languid sparrow]

@high snow added the logic in the code + a tooltip on the TB: Tie Breaker according to Datakingz info.

[tawny dove]

Not that Im looking to find an exploit on this, but just curious, how can you track this @vivid stirrup ?

[languid sparrow]

It's easy, with illuvium api, we see illuvial id and if more than one player have the same id = Alert

[tawny dove]

Ahh of course. Thanks champ!

[languid sparrow]

This is how I will do it.

[whole palm]

I´m not sure if I undersntood. I´m talking about one second Illuvial for example, I have 2 of then.

[languid sparrow]

It's a stage 3, you can only own 1 of them in game.

[ashen mango]

Has anyone ever been able to get 2 of the same stage 3 in the same game?
Like 2 Chukoondis for instance

[tawny dove]

I think she means if she owns 2 illuvials, lets say a TPI 80 and a TPI 90. She only played the TPI 90 yesterday, so can she send the TPI 80 to someone else, who will play it next weekend?

[whole palm]

Thats my point..

[high snow]

yes, but not lately

[tawny dove]

Its possible, as 2 players can have one (except high tiers where the pool is smaller). Not sure if anyone ever built 2 S3s tho, because like - why would they? Seems sup-optimal. But the pool size is there to make it possible..

[languid sparrow]

Shared pool quantity table.

[high snow]

I once had a game with 2 mud players when that happened

[whole palm]

Yeah, I can´t use 2 stage 3 in one match, for sure, but I have 2 good units. I want to know, If I can send it to other player.

[ashen mango]

What was the unit?

[high snow]

monkier if I remember correctly

[ashen mango]

The guy must have been happy

Hard to pull off

[supple epoch]

I noticed it with the lynx as you hit stage3 sometimes 2 or more left .

Late game so i think u say no time haha

[safe valve]

what does more dmg synalph or teantee?

[ember sail]

I've been gradually adding Sota and Slick's choices; I think the chat is going in the right direction. I don't understand how he can distinguish them so well just from the screenshots. It ended up a bit cluttered because I asked for it to be translated into English, and to avoid too much text, I turned it into an image.

[plucky dove]

such a Child hahahaha

Don’t worry, I won’t play next week. But this kind of behavior doesn’t seem sportsmanlike at all to me, don’t you think?

I didn’t know it was plausible for a player to say they’re literally going to harm another player just because they got butthurt.

In ANY of games that I compete, thats crazy hahaha

All of this while I never said absolutely ANYTHING about you or to you.

peaceeee 🫡

[viral marsh]

why i should fight you on 1/4 1/2 - if can prevent got into this?

[plucky dove]

You threatened to intentionally grief me in a tournament. If that isn’t self-explanatory to you — or to anyone who supports fair and fun competition — then I don’t need to say anything else.

[viral marsh]

"Fighting and winning every battle is not the highest skill. The highest skill is breaking the enemy's resistance without a fight." - Sun Ji

[plucky dove]

true bro, you are such a warrior

[viral marsh]

"threatened" and share minds - different things

[plucky dove]

true man, u right

[spring basin]

Haha this is actually really accurate, pretty funny to see how good Chat is at analyzing things sometimes 😅

[plucky dove]

I don’t even know why I replied to you. It’s not the first time you’ve talked shit to me or other players for absolutely no reason. I should’ve just ignored it like I always did. You were never punished and probably never will be, and that’s exactly why your behavior keeps being treated as acceptable.

[viral marsh]

i say nothing bad to you.
if you feel it different - it's your own mind.
Hector start talk aggressive to me - i start defend

[plucky dove]

then u said u would grif me

anyway is just nosense Keep talking to you

Good luck in the next qualifier if they allow you to join a lobby after already qualifying just to sabotage players you think are strong or simply don’t like. Because yeah, that’s definitely competition, that’s definitely sportsmanship XD

[viral marsh]

i hope to do that? - it's not mean i will do that.
and i showed everyone what every qualified person can do.

[sturdy robin]

I'm buying a new deck for Narkesh 😅

[west musk]

Next week qualified players are allowed to play? That seems not right

[viral marsh]

why? on IPL we can

[west musk]

Because qualified players are… qualified

[viral marsh]

i need exp for unit. i need more practice in lobby without bots

[west musk]

Seems exploit

Has been clarified by anyone?

[viral marsh]

just need think about rules, so it will be not possible to ruin games of "target players".
no surrender allow/hiden lobby codes, so no way to see who in game/who not.

[west musk]

—-

No transfer illuvials was stated before so that seems moot

Why u X 😂 that favors u

[viral marsh]

missunderstand. translator told me wrong prob

[west musk]

Ahh

[languid sparrow]

Illuvium should probably integrate this directly into the game's tournament system. The API already seems to contain some related codes/data for it.

[ashen mango]

Good analysis 🫡

[sturdy robin]

@vivid stirrup I hope those qualified players who will compete during the qualifiers next week are banned from the competition.

[viral marsh]

xD

you scared? it's good.

[west musk]

We just need clarification

[spring basin]

Fox has a point tho, the system and tournament structure is pretty flawed and a lot of information is missing that should be there beforehand. As a tournament organizer, you want to minimize exploiting as much as possible and not put it on the players.

[sturdy robin]

if there are seven players in the lobby who have already qualified and I get -3 three points is that fair? I don't have to compete with people who have already qualified

I hope you will take this as seriously as that certain "comment" that 2-3 people saw.

[west musk]

Logically prev qualified should not be in second qualifier… too much exploit possibility

@vivid stirrup what is the official stance?

[sturdy robin]

0 announcements, as before 🙂

[spring basin]

Telling your players they can't play your game during a certain time period because they're already qualified would be really weird. It's once again a problem with the structure, and same reasoning here, you can't put that on the players.

[west musk]

Yep I get that… but creates 2 negative things either way…

Have to choose the option of least negative

[ember sail]

Wow, this chat is creepy. I wanted to get some screenshots with narkesh to compare too, but they're long gone lol

[outer sphinx]

why dont you guys do scrims?xD

[viral marsh]

if being honest. not sure this players who qualified already made big different to other.
look on 15-16 position of yestarday games.
people with 6 3rd place qualified.
next week competition will be even less, so everyone get in.

[west musk]

Yep, but again, clarification would be helpful here… more structure communication the better

[viral marsh]

it's harder now?
on IPL how much competitive players was? 60-70?
and now? and with big deck?

[sturdy robin]

Explain to me the logic of how a qualified player has the right to play in two qualifiers. I'll help. No way. 🙂

the other players should compete in the next qualifier. not you. it's outrageous that this is a topic

If there were rules, this should be the first thing!

[spring basin]

My reasoning isn't that it's fair, it's that the organization and structure of the tournament format is flawed. This should have been a 64 player tournament qualification over a weekend like normal games do, and we would never have had these problems.

If you as a company have a flawed structure, the customers who do as they should should never face negative consequences because of it. What you want is to disallow ppl from playing ranked games during a certain time period with Illuvials they bought for money.

Imagine League telling ppl during Worlds that they aren't allowed to play ranked games. Yeah, I do agree this shouldn't even be a topic.

[sturdy robin]

I also bought my illuvials for money and I can't rent them out...

[mellow star]

those who have already qualified, look at yourselves, why do you want to play next week when the next qualifier is going on? now people are seriously talking about wanting to play who otherwise disappeared for months and only came back for the sake of the competition.. without name.
you want to practice, pull together like you did during the world championship, and don't stir up trouble at the selection, what's so difficult about that?

[spring basin]

Yeah, because you played with them which was a rule. I understand that rule and agree with it. It's how pretty much every big sport handles similar situations. But I think it should have been a pinned announcement that everyone could see because it's really important information for everyone to know. So I do understand your frustration with the topic and it wasn't handled correctly in my opinion.

[sturdy robin]

You can explain to these people bro. It's unnecessary.

[mellow star]

It's pretty sad, I thought this was a good, cohesive community, and now I see that we have problems like in kindergarten.

[vivid stirrup]

We should soon have an official update regarding everything

[sturdy robin]

and while we're at it, there could have been a rule that everyone could only play with their own deck. Renting out to anyone is prohibited. so at least the competition would have been organized for those who really support the project

[sturdy robin]

If you hadn't qualified just now (of course I knew you would), then the same deck could have tried two qualifications. If I tried one qualification just now and failed, why shouldn't someone else try with the same illuvials?

[sturdy robin]

This is not cheating. Just as you bought your illuvials for money (even though it's a rented deck), I bought them for money. Yet I can't do what I want with them. 🙂

and what if someone sold the deck a long time ago but couldn't sell it yet. they tried a qualification and then someone is interested in the deck because of the competition. can't sell it because those illuvials were already used?

He bought it for money too and can't sell it right when there is demand for it? Should he sell it when the competition ends and no one needs it anymore?

[spring basin]

I’m at the gym now. I will reply to you when I’m back home in a couple of hours.

[vivid stirrup]

Clarification and Addition to the Ruleset for the Motorverse Cup

• We will adjust the following rule communicated before the first qualifiers started: #🎮〕illuvium-arena message so that it only affects Illuvial teams once they have qualified for a tournament spot.
  • This will make it easier for people to identify, sell and trade non-locked Illuvials during the tournament, as we do not want to ban trading and selling completely, but rather work against multi-accounting.
  • This applies to all stages of the tournament. For example, if someone is knocked out in the quarterfinals, their team is still locked and can’t be traded or sold to be used in the tournament by others.
• Players who have already qualified for the tournament are not allowed to play any ranked games during the second Sit & Go window.

[fading mountain]

Rank / Player / Points / Games / Avg Points / Win Rate / Avg Place / Top 3 / Tiebreaker Explanation / Status
1 🏆 FoxSpirit.Atlas 84 12 7.0 100.0% (12W) 1.0 12 NO ✅ Eligible
142 Robertacho -24 12 -2.0 0.0% (0W) 7.4 0 NO ✅ Eligible

The more I play, the further I fall. Did my three Carablu Cup wins mean nothing? Is my life a lie? Who can save us now?

[sturdy robin]

Fair. thank you very much

[ashen mango]

Strong players from last year came back with decent to strong collections, this is normal

[languid sparrow]

Pushing a new update to illuviVault: match history will now display the team’s Level, TPI, and Roster Score for each match played. illuvivault com/Gauntlet#matches_lucid

[safe valve]

GG @noble hinge strong game 🦾

[fading mountain]

@ashen mango Are these players just here for the rewards?
There should be a loyalty bonus or rewards specifically for players who stay active throughout the year, rather than just peaking during tournament season

[noble hinge]

Thank you !!
I have been watching other players play.
I think I probably should have left my Rhamphite where she was at the end so my corner was protected instead of panicking over your Adorius. I really wish there was a do over button so I could try the exact same scenario again a few times with minor adjustments..😂

[mellow star]

Can I view the code for the matches that are already underway somewhere, like before?

[safe valve]

usually dangerous to send rhamphyre to adorius, his heals get out way more quickly. Usually 1 augment enough to even survive all the dmg.

[west musk]

rattydata dot com

[prisma yarrow]

the malura carry

[noble hinge]

What there should be is less money in every tournament. It would reward showing up more often.
BUT this is a special Lamborghini thing so they probably got the say in how it is distributed.🙂

[west musk]

i thought about this too... imaging IPL 250k split into TEN 25k tournaments... that would mean A LOT more ongoing growth

[noble hinge]

Yup and paying people to play OW instead of letting Illuvials be the reward for doing so...that money could have been spent on small tournaments or buying Illuvials off the market to give as prizes in community tournaments. People from the community would have shown up to play in tournaments to get 100 TPI Illuvials AND it would have had the DAO supporting the farmers of the Illuvials.
Too late now but I hope future events will really focus on how to make in game economy better and reward loyal customers of the game.

[west musk]

Also think it would benefit Illuvium to sponsor Sylens ongoing weekly tourneys MORE

$500 worth of prizes in fuel crates weekly would mean new players can get into the ecosystem and buy ADRS

Disks are nice but.. i dont really think those are helping arena growth much

[tawny dove]

The loyalty bonus is the leaderboard rewards. It rewards players who play consistently.
I understand why people dislike players who only come around for tournaments with big price money. Extractors some call them.
However, the nuance to this is, that if the game was better, reward structure better, ecosystem economy better etc etc, then they would be here and play consistently.
Could/should there be more or better benefits for “loyal” players? Maybe. But first and foremost, it’s not the players fault if they only come for tournaments. Its the companys fault and their responsibility to create a game players want to play consistently and/or structures, reward systems etc to support this.
One thing tho, now that its played with ownership, players cant come in as easily and just extract value. Now they need to invest time and/or money to extract properly. This of course creates another probelem, if thats how you chose to look at it, which is that the game to some extend becomes pay to win, with the deepest pockets having the biggest chance of succes (skills needed too, but you get the picture).

[noble hinge]

Speaking of fuel crates, why can we not buy fuel crates?
We have no way to send someone a "gift card" and that is crazy to me.

[west musk]

yah those are off chain assets afaik

illuvium can send them but players cannot as of now

@dark scaffold we gonna be able to send fuel crates eventually?

[safe valve]

why fuelcrates if you have actual giftcards...

[noble hinge]

I saw those selling on EBay.
I bet the code is used.😂

[noble hinge]

"However, the nuance to this is, that if the game was better, reward structure better, ecosystem economy better etc etc, then they would be here and play consistently. "

True.

[viral marsh]

and it was half year tournaments every week for 100k.
only 150k was put into finals

[west musk]

only

[viral marsh]

"i thought about this too... imaging IPL 250k split into TEN 25k tournaments..." - and it was split for 20 tournaments.
so don't know what about you tell

[west musk]

the idea is ongoing regular tournaments isolated from a particular event would be better

[viral marsh]

and same people will win/got into finals on them.
i'm ok with that. why not

[west musk]

ipl was to gain points for the final... at a certain point people gave up because they knew they would not qualify

it was a jerk party at that point

if the system was set up for long term growth it would be better

[viral marsh]

it was not only points, but money as well.
and not low for IPL 500 and 1000

[ashen mango]

Yes probably but we can't blame people for wanting money, that's why there is a big prizepool after all

[west musk]

there can be a bridge

between money players and loyalists

all are playing

[viral marsh]

push token price - all win.

[west musk]

so make the system set up for sustainability not pure extraction

[west musk]

need some world peace for that XD

[high snow]

If the main motivation is gifting people money that will leave again afterwards, I don't see the value of the tournament itself. Is this the main motivation? As far as I know there was not an official livestream yesterday, no real marketing, there is no official tournament page on the website etc. So the only people who know about it are the core community and people who played in the past. People who left in the past will directly leave after the tournament again. Most of them just rented decks and probably have no intention to play afterwards.
I would argue the small Friday night events done by @outer surge are more beneficial for the community than the 50k tournament right now.
What we need are smaller events, growing the community step by step, helping new players etc. We could have done 50 events with 1k price money each. That would have been events for the whole year. People would steadily try to improve their collection, buy Illuvials etc. People also would not rent Illuvials 50 times, but start building their own collection and maybe rent some specific ones they are missing for each event.
Just my take 🙂

[viral marsh]

i agree with it.
but at other hand - it will be same 5/8 players on finals, who just take like salary every week.
and when everyone realize it's no chance - they give up.

like it was on IPL. 1st month it was 2-3k uniq players.(big growth)
but on next month amount drop to 1.5k-1k, included bots.

[tawny dove]

So true! I have said it here a few days ago, not to be a hater but just stating the blunt truth: the Lambo partnership was a complete disaster. A huge missed opportunity with a world class brand.
Seemed mostly something to keep the few loyalists engaged in a period where there was almost nothing to keep around.
Communication, information and marketing almost non existing. Where is the CEO and project “executives/council”? 60 players in a qualifier for 50k tells everything. The Beyond art was great though. But overall the execution of this partnership/tournament seems outright cringe.
Hopefully they’ll learn from it. The amount of chances left is running out though.

[languid sparrow]

The total player pool for Qualification Week #1 of the Motorverse Cup is 77 players, out of 227 unique wallets holding the Lamborghini Battle Board.

[tawny dove]

Maybe so, doesn’t change the point im making. Numbers still a joke.

[languid sparrow]

Yep, i'm just backing the data here.

[west musk]

this is essentially a tournament for the community

not a terrible thing... but could have been thought out more in ways to bring new energy in...

brought some, but the result is obvious.... new players need more time and ways to grow and build their collections...

[tawny dove]

A tournament or something else for the community is only a good thing yes, obviusly. But I just think the Lambo partnership was wasted. With the current state of the project, we cannot expect a parter of this calibre to come around often. So the value of it should have been maxed out. If the ressources wasnt there to do this internally, then they should have arranged something else and waited with the Lambo partnership for later/better timing.

[zenith mortar]

I would say resources is a major factor

But I can’t disagree with several other points

[low comet]

was there a nerf on fire?

[tawny dove]

I know, and in many aspects you guys are doing great with the weapons you have to go to war with. I have a lot of respect for the effort the team is putting in. Im sorry for sounding like a Karen. Maybe I should communicate it differently, but the frustration is born with good intentions, from a big desire to see the project thrive and succeed.
I still stand by my criticism, and hope things will be better next time.

[zenith mortar]

I understand and youve said things more nicely and less kareny than others at times honestly.

[tawny dove]

The opposite actually, it was buffed in the latest patch, 1.17.5.

[low comet]

it feels weak to me maybe because we're like 3 people who play fire last week, then everyone is playing fire now after the sit n go hahaha

[west musk]

i chose fire cuz i hate playing corner

but corner seems strongest

[west musk]

im not a pro like u fox XD
i play for fun
but i enjoy learning 😄

[low comet]

Yes because they are the most versatile to play with any weapon

[timber turtle]

Imagine the house League format with 50k prize pool. Players spread in tiers, give higher Tiers best rewards but still reward low Tiers as well, that would be interesting to join ilv. There is no way new people are gonna play ILV because of this tournament since u got 0 chance to beat ogs

[low comet]

players like fox usually lose when they are highly contested that's why they are picking versatile weapons where they can build situational synergies right @viral marsh

[viral marsh]

i should made 2nd deck then, with mid lvl illuvials, so i can play in every league

[low comet]

but they can track IP right

[viral marsh]

then i just coach my sister play well

[timber turtle]

Still better than current situation

Easy to fix

Just start all tiers at same time

After qualifiers

[viral marsh]

good that i have 2 pc

[timber turtle]

Well if u wanna play two games same time when there is much more money on the line for ur main

Spread focus

Don’t think there is a way to fully prevent some players to abuse any situation

@languid sparrow did you have a place to see all current matches in arena?

[languid sparrow]

Yep, 1 sec. I will explain it

[spring basin]

If the people who already qualified won’t be able to play in the second qualifier, does that mean the 14 people who made it will get the 1–14 seeds and you will do the classic 1, 2, 3, 4, with 8, 7, 6, 5 and so on?

[languid sparrow]

Yes in illuvivault com/Gauntlet#matches_lucid, scroll all the way down or Click on

You have two ways to do it:

1. Either click directly on Match History

2. Or Scroll all the way down the page where you'll see a table with all the matches.
   When you click on a Match History, it expands and you can see the roster of each player.

[timber turtle]

Thanks really helpful🙌

[languid sparrow]

You're welcome! To support illuviVault, use the **illuviVault **referral code if you buy some fuel.

[vivid stirrup]

We will likely deduct some points for seeding from the second weekend, since it is easier to earn points there. However, we wouldn’t want, for example, the last place from Weekend 1 to be seeded ahead of first place from Weekend 2.

For example:
Player A from Weekend 1 has 40 points, Player B from Weekend 2 has 50 points, and Player C from Weekend 1 has 30 points.

If we deduct, let’s say, 15 points from all Weekend 2 qualified players, the seeding would be:
A
B
C
This way, Player B winning Weekend 2 still has merit, while Weekend 1 is still honored as the more competitive weekend.

[supple epoch]

Did we get a tournament outcome yet

[high snow]

Taking points into account for seeding is flawed in itself. We have the same problem as always that some people were able to play more games than others. Pls do not punish people for not being able to play the same amount of games than others.
Also if rank 1 of weekend 2 would get a higher seeding than let's say rank 10-14, these players should be allowed to compete again in the second qualification round to be able to improve their seeding.
If the top players of this weekend are not allowed to play the games will be significant easier.
Probably all 14 qualified players would be able to get top 3 participating in the second qualification round.
To make things easier I would agree with Slickz giving the qualified people seeding 1-14 and not let them play next week

[sturdy robin]

I wanted to ask: if I sell or rent out my deck, can I still try the second qualification with weaker Illuvials? Just for fun. 🙂

By the way, I didn’t make it through the first qualification, just so you know.

😄

[languid sparrow]

🤡

[noble hinge]

Where do I find the information that tells me how much more powerfrul my Illuvials get with each level they gain?

[high snow]

1 level = 1% hp + 1% omega + 1% attack damage

[noble hinge]

Thank you! I wasn't sure if it was the same amount for each level.

[tawny dove]

Did anyone ever find out about that Aroldo guy? Why he has no Illuvials showing in his account?

[west musk]

could be he had all illuvials in a secondary account

illuvials in secondaries show up in game as well

and I aint ever seen no Aroldo before...

so maybe someone made an illuvium account for them... added illuvials to a secondary and connected it to that illuvium account and just gave them access to the illuvium account and not the illuvials

AKA some one rented it to them

[timber turtle]

.

[safe valve]

No... haven't seen a name dropped, so i guess nobody found out really yet.
There are 2 accounts tho, one without and one with a collection.

[tawny dove]

Dom dom Doom

[viral marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/vin-diesal-nodding-gif-9964909

[languid sparrow]

✅

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dogsout-gif-21949112

[hoary spindle]

@west musk If only my team could perform like that on Saturday! GGs man. One hell of a (lucky) comeback lol

[west musk]

ggz bro i threw the kitchen sink at that corner XD

[hoary spindle]

hahahah The Rogue (Flying) Bird was my favorite hahah

[west musk]

gotta try

[hoary spindle]

I think Ill let you find a match this time hahaha. My troops are due to SUCK next time out lol

[west musk]

i shoulda grabed a titanor instead of dualeph

stun your corner prob been better

[hoary spindle]

for sure that would have been GGs

[west musk]

ggs (:

[hoary spindle]

dualeph was obsessed w killing my Blue slug in the corner 😂

[noble hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/spanking-hitting-hit-him-gif-15867704

@wild kilnthat Phosphorus...
He hits hard.

[wild kiln]

Yeah, bird is insane 😅

I actually got him really early, I was surprised, gg!!

[prisma yarrow]

an entire game and I cant make a t1 stage 2 how are you suppose to make a strategy when you pick your weapon and aug. and the game won t give the t1s2 that you want even after over rolling

sometimes its just easier to go for phophorus...

and absolutly nobody else had that aapon, why not giving it in the game

[native mauve]

Need to stay at level 5 to have best odds od getting tier 1)

Hey guys what's the tiebreaker for the tournament again is it win percentage first and then highest average placement or the other way around?

[native mauve]

Thanks)

[west musk]

broooooooo

[hoary spindle]

hahahah

i dont know...

[west musk]

well ggz again 😄

[hoary spindle]

you get me out of that corner and im trash though lol

thanks man lol i still feel like youre taking it easy on me hahah

GGs RnG is on my side tonight...

[low comet]

i have scary dualeph @hollow hahahaha

[torn flume]

another photo of me getting wrekt

[low comet]

you're higheer than test, for a beginner that's good tho

[torn flume]

can I ask? the more level and illuvials you have the ranger level up too?

[safe valve]

the ranger level is the average lvl of all your illuvials.
If you don't own a specific illuvial, its level is 1

[torn flume]

Ohhhhhhh so I need to level up all my illuvials?

[safe valve]

if you wana level up your ranger, yea kinda 😄

it only takes the first slot into consideration tho.

basically the best level of each illuvial

[torn flume]

wdym by this sir

[safe valve]

You have first slot and second slot available to set Illuvials ini teamplaner --> Ownership, so you can for example play with two phorus, or with two rhamphites. But only first slot get calculated in for the ranger level.

Like i have set for example a second atlas and a second rhamphite, but they don't get counted in the average level. Only first slots (marked in red)

[torn flume]

so the lesser illuvial you have the easier to level up?

[safe valve]

no, if we look at the screen shot above again.
if i don't own any axons, the first slot counts as level 1

[torn flume]

so you need all illuvials then right?

[safe valve]

yes

[torn flume]

I see2 thansk thanks

[hot pond]

which is also why T0S3 units help to get your avg up to 40 because they all have level 40 already usually

even if you pretty much never use them

[vivid stirrup]

Taking their Points/Placement in the Sit&Go into full consideration for Seeding into Tournament was always the play. If someone stopped playing because they qualified and didn't want to push for a higher finish they well knew that this would affect their seeding. There is no other way to do it.
And the second point where we give Weekend#1 qualifiers more weight makes sense imo, Weekend#2 is gonna be a lot easier.

It's just a question of how much we deduct from Weekend #2 to get fair seeding. I think a value that brings first of Weekend#2 to around 8-10th in total sounds fair.

[vivid stirrup]

There is a ban on trading or selling Illuvial teams that have been used to qualify for the tournament, or have been used in said tournament.

Any Illuvial that was not part of a Team that was played for qualifying or playing in the tournament is fair game to be used.

Hope this explanation leaves no questions unanswered. 🙂

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ashen mango]

I suggest to give a huge weight lead to week 1 qualified players, this will end up being more fair for everyone

[sturdy robin]

Doesn't this mean that it only applies to illuvial teams that have qualified?

[ashen mango]

Like 1st place in the 2nd qualifier won't be better than 7th place in 1st qualifier

[sturdy robin]

If I didn't make it through the first qualification, it means that the illuvial team is not part of the 32 competing decks.

[vivid stirrup]

Yes

as long as you don't qualify, your illuvial team can still be used as you wish.

If Illuvial Teams have been used to qualify or to play any stage of the main tournament, they are locked to the account that played them.

[sturdy robin]

that's what I'm talking about. I just tried the first qualifier to see what I could do, but I didn't make it to the top 14.

[sturdy robin]

then I can rent it out, right? participation in the qualification does not count, only successful qualification counts

[ashen mango]

So to be 100% clear: this means that I can still rent a few illuvials that I'm missing and I can send some of the illuvials I have on a secondary account to my first account right?

They haven't been used in the sit&go

[sturdy robin]

My other question is, if I rent out the deck I used to try the first qualification, can I try the second qualification with a weak deck?

[sturdy robin]

if you used it, it's not a problem, only if you succeeded in qualifying. (in your case it would be a problem because you succeeded)

but if you didn't use that illuvial then you do what you want

[vivid stirrup]

Yes

[vivid stirrup]

Yes

[vivid stirrup]

As long as these illuvials were not part of a team that qualified or played in the main motorverse tournament

[vivid stirrup]

You can still play with Illuvials that have not been part of a team that qualified or played in the main motorverse tournament 🙂

[sturdy robin]

I have no more questions. Thank you very much for your answer bro 🙃🤙

[supple epoch]

States check down ?

[safe valve]

Oh, so you not tracking the rooster but the effectively played illuvials ?
So if i would have just played rogues and qualified, i could still Transfer, buy, Trade all other illuvials in my rooster?

[supple epoch]

Nm it was casual i finsh 7th

[outer sphinx]

guuys it happened, i beat fox 😄

but he played mud tho

[viral marsh]

play non contest build, when i get exp for my aapon

[viral marsh]

wtf with my units stats?

[languid sparrow]

Yeah, I need to fix it. It seems like they are now showing properly.

Levels are not showing.

https://tenor.com/view/data-star-trek-intensifies-hmm-enterprise-gif-13654978

[torn flume]

@safe valve sir sorry to bother you. do you ahev the formula on how do exp is distributed on arena?

[distant geyser]

check pinned

[torn flume]

alright sir thankyou

[viral marsh]

someone farm ez elo?

or not

[outer surge]

@dark scaffold has mentioned in the past that if you see him in queue or in bug he's bug hunting or trying to fix something.

[viral marsh]

or test new feauture system of que/ranking game search?

[dark scaffold]

dont spread FUD, we have no bugs in arena 🤣

[torn flume]

where can I see this feature

[zenith mortar]

So did paz clarify the tie break rules for sNg

[prisma yarrow]

when I q for arena, if I go on my land, I get kick our of the q

[vale zephyr]

same when you use your passport to sign something

[prisma yarrow]

i got kick out of the q without been kickout

@pseudo phoenix you too

[pseudo phoenix]

How strange, I had pressed play and closed the game, I thot it would cancel by itself

[prisma yarrow]

i beat you twice you are not loosing points

OMG i had to sell by mistake my last unit

this is weird why would the game let him keep his winning streak and I beat him twice in a row

and that was not close win, before he end up making his phophorus

[vale zephyr]

Did you beat the ghost?

[prisma yarrow]

twice in a row and we were 1 on 1

at that point its impossible that I faced him ghost twice

[mellow star]

I'm just a player, if you experience an error, report it to the dev team.🙏

[prisma yarrow]

may be I need mental care lol

do I have a delusional problem

[mellow star]

🫂

[high snow]

There was absolutely nothing announced. Over the past few days, I and others have specifically asked several times about the seeding, but we never received a response from the team or the Council.
I’m pretty sure that someone who finished in the 45–55 point range on the first weekend would easily score 70 points or more on the second weekend. It would be very strange if, for example, someone who finished 16th this weekend were seeded ahead of the 12th-place finisher from this weekend.
But sure if you deduct like 30 points it could be reasonable.

[vivid stirrup]

the roster is what matters, otherwise people could play rogues to qualify with 1 account and send the rest of the illuvial team to second account and play another comp.

that's why everywhere it's mentioned the whole "team" is locked if u qualify, not just the individual illuvials that were in play

[ashen mango]

Well played @whole palm

[whole palm]

I was beting in you HAHAHAHA

[timber turtle]

Do you have a magnet on your ranger

5 rounds, 3 times vs you, end up 3rd while beating the 2nd easily🥲

😂

[whole palm]

I got super strong that game. hehe

[ashen mango]

Beautiful

[safe valve]

you have seen that, right?

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ashen mango]

Yeah I've received an illuvial that hasn't played in the sit&go so all is fine

[safe valve]

Doesn't matter... Whole rooster is locked

[ashen mango]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[safe valve]

Yea, thats why i asked again 😄

[ashen mango]

Well he confirmed that I could rent illuvials

It's locked in the sense that I can't send them

[safe valve]

Rooster locked is rooster locked.
I think you both didn't talk about the Same Stuff, thats why i asked again.
Doesn't Make Sense to lock one thing but not the other

[ashen mango]

@vivid stirrup I just received an illuvial that hasn't been used in the Sit&go even though I'm qualified, is it allowed?

[edgy bough]

yea its wild they dumped that much $ into one tournament

[ashen mango]

Sorry for asking the question twice but it seems that it's not clear if you answered to both question or only one of them

[languid sparrow]

In Web3 tournaments, the fact that players own their NFTs and can freely trade or transfer assets adds a layer of complexity for event organizers, who now have to track rosters and enforce strict rules around changes to avoid exploits.

[ashen mango]

In this case abusing would be using an illuvial that another qualified competitor already used
Not only the person who sent me the illuvial isn't qualified, he didn't even play the sit&go

[prisma yarrow]

the titanor did the job of tanking all game and winning a game that could not be won before gg @pseudo phoenix

[pseudo phoenix]

gg

[prisma yarrow]

he was fat

[ebon aspen]

@vale zephyr why is my Duealeth died in 8 seconds without beng hit by any alluvial ?

Inferno?

Questions for the Pro's how do you beat this Inferno combo, I had 2 Mystic 2 Granit 6 water, 2 Invoker + 1.5 second Invulnerable. My Dualph died in 6.5 seconds just from one ranger hit and inferno without being hit by any illuvial

This is the only team I cant win against

[native mauve]

sometimes u have to fight fire with fire?

[ebon aspen]

cant be the only counter thought? Mud maybe ? or Frost

[native mauve]

i think mud is good, unless they get 4 inferno which melted even my grantite

or nature can still win, but needs the scoriox i think

[shut yacht]

@vale zephyr my bear shouldve beat that mammoth

[prisma yarrow]

@bronze spire GG, I wish it would not had took my entire turn to roll my synaph with the right augment, your snake was down on first omega

[ebon aspen]

@native mauve so no need for true sight I guess 🤣

[arctic steppe]

@shut yacht lol insane game bro

[shut yacht]

i switched legendary to phosporus from pyriox

think that cost me game

you guys kept regenerating! 40k damage no dead

[shut yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-angry-kid-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-16045257244806990422

gg

[bronze spire]

ggs yea i got lucky hit everything i needed

[vale zephyr]

The augment on scoriox

[prisma yarrow]

i had behemoth comming for next round

[ebon aspen]

@prisma yarrow what level u rolled for Ryplance?

I rolled 60 points at lvl 8 and only got 6 copys wtf?

[prisma yarrow]

he is 60 perfect stats except for movement speed

what lvl i dont remember

[ebon aspen]

how do I roll 60 points at lvl at 8 to get 6 copys only

[prisma yarrow]

i though over rolled to get the last one

[ebon aspen]

u rolled at lvl 9

for it right?

[prisma yarrow]

i got him when 34% chance lvl8

when t4 was 35% and t3 34% i think it lvl 8

i didnt want to lvl up before i got him

i was scared of your 3 mystic, I am surprise that your goliant was melting like that

[ebon aspen]

its lvl 60 Goloath with 3 mystic

wtffff for real It just melts and with Granit

[prisma yarrow]

i dont understand that maybe 4 toxic was doing pure damage on him and help melting him

[ebon aspen]

I had 4 Illuvials on your Axon and could not kill it

[prisma yarrow]

i first I though you didnt had granit

[ebon aspen]

I hat t1S2

i keep chaning stuff out to see what works

I countd even kill your Axodon Bird with Phyriox Berseker coudnt kill T1s2

whatever it was that just broken gg

your Axon lasted 5 time slonger than my Granit Goliath 🤣

[prisma yarrow]

he had some good friends

[ebon aspen]

basic s2 😂

[ebon aspen]

im just talking about how 4 units cant kill 2 harbinger Axodon

everything else your team was beastly

[languid sparrow]

Too deep for my knowledge hehe

[prisma yarrow]

the Axon was hyped

and the fludd too that why I guess

[ebon aspen]

come one 3 Mystic should not basically insta die like that 😂

[ebon aspen]

I guess back to mud to clean 3 Inferno with ease

[arctic turtle]

i just wanted to see how far i could get with all T5s. Honestly better than i expected

[ebon aspen]

with so many bots it was good result

[arctic turtle]

i managed to pull out of 8th in the last second

[prisma yarrow]

omg this boy that 1 vs 5 and won

i was reaching a 1000 damage but umbre and Scoriox end up having the last words

may be i would had won if I could roll a last one for adoredo

[noble hinge]

Has anyone else had an issue where you beat someone in a round but their points don't decrease?

[jolly whale]

I thought I saw that happen once or twice.... but maybe I was playing the ghost and didn't realise

[ebon aspen]

alright who can guess the outcome of this easy fight

[low comet]

You should be winning that unless ranger got bursted real quick

[ebon aspen]

coudnt even kill a Gnarl

lost big

[low comet]

Thats why i hate that augment on scoriox

[ebon aspen]

its just 6 nature with 4 empth how is that even possible

No no he had a Phyriox

[low comet]

maybe drone augment diff hahaha sad you lose even he is playing wrong bonding

[ebon aspen]

my entire team is lvl 60 except for little Lura maybe lvl 50

I get it if he had a Scoriox with 8 nature + 2 magma then sure ok but his LOL

what happened to 7 earth Mitigation literary it is useless so no wonder nobody playing it

[arctic turtle]

High amount of healing from nature and Templar and the Elk. 6 nature is 6% max health healing per second for nature units plus elks. Gnarl also has 20% more max health and more healing for every 5 seconds i think those augments. That corner has been destroying me. Too much healing to get through

The amount of mitigation now is also way too low for the amount of damage we can put out

[jolly whale]

And watch fire/inferno/arcanite melt that nature corner comp in like 3 seconds

[sharp gale]

Please, new patch before the second qualifier for maintain the fun 👍

[vivid stirrup]

if it was not part of a team that was played to qualify, or at any stage of the main tournament, yes.

I also wanted to highlight a potential grief scenario so everyone can take precautions.

Someone could send a high-level Illuvial to you just before a game, and it would get auto-filled into your team.
This way, someone could grief you by pushing their weak-stat high-level Illuvial into your active team — or even worse, auto-fill Illuvials that have been banned due to usage in qualifying or during any stage of the tournament, potentially getting you banned as well.

Therefore, I HIGHLY recommend that anyone playing picks and locks every single Illuvial into their active Illuvial Team, even if it's not a good one, so your active team cannot be changed from the outside.

It’s a dog-eat-dog world we live in, and I want everyone to be as safe as possible.

[quaint prawn]

What a waist of a tournament. 😶‍🌫️

[viral marsh]

feel free send to me your high lvl illuvial. so i can sell it for good price.
i check my wallet every time before tournament games in any way.

and while everyone use team-planer, so your ranger scale right - this trix will not work.

[fresh pilot]

It’s normal for those who don’t benefit to want a revision, just do it correct and fair everyone.

[hot pond]

@languid sparrow The icon for absorbtion cell legendary augment is incorrect on illuvivault

it should be this one

On Combat Start and on Takedown gain 2% Omnivamp, 10% Attack Damage and 10% Critical Chance.

from the public gauntlet doc

[languid sparrow]

I will push the update soon, thx for letting me know. Funny it has the good information on Tier List section but not in Matches

[timber turtle]

Is there any way to select an illuvial faster from shop than go with mouse on it?

[ebon aspen]

there are some overlays apps that allow you to place hotkeys anywhere on your screen

[ebon aspen]

Once you press 1-5 keys on your keyboard it reflects it on your screen and position those numbers anywhere on your screen as an example, there is probably way better examples or way to do it FYI.

[timber turtle]

Thx🙏🙏🙏 good idea

[outer surge]

Damn, I wish that was built in by default! But doesn't that mess with your camera positioning?

[ebon aspen]

of course, as these key # will stay in place but you can make them tiny or even transparent where you dont notice it at all. Just dont remember which program I used as it was on my old PC.

[languid sparrow]

Pushed a new update refinning a little bit.
Add meters fragmented by type [Physical, Energy, Pure] for:
• Damage deal
• Damage Receive

+++
• Level of the drone
• Drone Health
• Credit

[ashen mango]

@lime cloak 😮

[lime cloak]

GG
some crazy rounds

[ashen mango]

GG!

[ashen mango]

🙁 @west plume

Oh wait

You didn't lose hp?

I just saw myself winning

[west plume]

iam sure i did

yi was too busy getting chewed up by your catling gun on steroids

[ashen mango]

It's so hard to farm xp on Scoriox with everyone going for it including the bots

[west plume]

yeah i noticed you locked your Beetle in the corner to make sure i won a few rounds...

[west plume]

thank you

[ashen mango]

Yeah but the first time I got stomped and killed 0 units so I didn't get xp
I felt a bit silly

GG anyways

[west plume]

GG

i kinda knew the outcome

[tawny dove]

GG @vale zephyr, that was a nice one

[vale zephyr]

gg thank you

[prisma yarrow]

one fraction of sec to get my behemoth on

[calm raven]

@prisma yarrow u are in game

[prisma yarrow]

i hate this

this game register you for one more all the time

[edgy bough]

gg! Tank ended up coming in 3rd at the end, pretty impressive

[calm raven]

Yeah that was a great comeback

[turbid osprey]

Heres a balance thread to help the team out #1503903296916557824 message

[outer sphinx]

👀

[prisma yarrow]

4 rev undefeated the entire game

gg

i had 4th granite on my blotto

[ember sail]

My friend wants to play the qualifier and wanted to know if all he needs is the boarder, in other words, if he buys it now, can he get it or is there a deadline to have it in his wallet?

[fallen vortex]

Howdy, just submitted it

I know I'm late to le party

[warm epoch]

Marking this for later

[noble hinge]

I may not be the best player but come on game, I am not this bad!🤣

[jolly whale]

This is even better than 1st place!

[hot pond]

The true Tier 0

[zenith mortar]

0 is before first

TOP TIER

[hot pond]

It’s where Rich has been all along

[hoary spindle]

@carmine obsidian That (4) Invoker was too Strong... GGs

[torn flume]

@ember sail thanks sir for the exp xd ahahha

[ember sail]

That was the idea, we're already there lol. Let's level up a bit more here too, there's still a long way to go.

[hot pond]

Hi @vivid stirrup Presumably the placement here affects the seeding for the next round right? Has a Tie Breaker been applied then between myself and Slickz? We have same points, avg placement and number of wins as well as all the other placements the same. 😅

[vivid stirrup]

Not sure how that is handled, I am not in charge of the sit&goes, that is rich with datakingz

[hot pond]

@zenith mortar Can you support here? Edit: I have checked on datakingz and it applied last game placement as the tiebreaker, should be fine then

[digital lion]

Hi guys, im a bit out of the loop with ILV, does everyone play with there own illuvials now?

[ashen mango]

Hey welcome back Allan!

Come back to the arena 😈

And remember to use xp boosts if you want to level up your illuvials

[languid sparrow]

Hello, here is your Roster Score & illluvials Scan, Xp, Level, TPI, progression bar, visual representation of your assets on graph.
➠ Rsoter Scan: illuvivault**(dot)com/roster-scan
➠ Leaderboards: illuvivault(dot)**com/gauntlet/leaderboard-lucid?vaultBoard=classic#leaderboard_lucid

[zenith mortar]

I’ll just clarify again haha, Paz and council reviewed tournament rules and made them, so I’ve asked them to clarify, Datakingz is a tournament support platform not the rules makers

But yes according to Paz message previously the rules on my page are correct

[vivid stirrup]

maybe it would help if you explain exactly how datakingz is calculating the tiebreakers in the set up sng events. I think that's what people are confused about. or rather would like clarity on.

[zenith mortar]

The SNG rules are according to the IPL rules which they came up with as well which are shown on hover where in the far right columns, I posted @high snow results so @hot pond your results should be explained there as well if there is a tie and indeed rules have continued the same which it appears that council is saying

[digital lion]

hey Sota! hmmm i was hoping it wasn't p2w, i do have a bit of illuvials but there all low level and i just rather play a fair game. Does anyone play casual mode? or do people just play the ranked mode with there own illuvials?

[ashen mango]

It's 99% ranked I'd say

[digital lion]

aww dam

[outer sphinx]

@low comet GG bro

[low comet]

GG can't find your @ hahahaha

[outer sphinx]

thougt contesting mystic units will win me game, but fighters to weak

[low comet]

yeah hard counter you but you played it perfectly though

[outer sphinx]

i hoped for berserk or toxic emblem, but not this game

[low comet]

maybe if you are using top players illuvials HAHAHAHAHA

[outer sphinx]

Wp gg

[high snow]

@distant geyser You really sold your board to reduce the xp I get for the last three rounds because you could not win anymore?

[distant geyser]

I didn't really know, just boring

[high snow]

it's fine if you did not know. But xp gain is based on enemy Illuvials + round. Higher tier and stage Illuvials give more xp if you win against them

[torn flume]

gmgm

[prisma yarrow]

24 points nice

[vale zephyr]

gg you didn't grief for nothing

[prisma yarrow]

you all were fighting for sear, ramphire and monarch or somehting

and i was doing my little thing in my coner

[vale zephyr]

you grieffed my flud xD

[prisma yarrow]

that was the last unit I got

not intentionally, i just wanted 4 empath over that 5 bullwak

[vale zephyr]

well played

[ashen mango]

Don't worry, Squaak griefs my units when we play in ranked
Right @vale zephyr? 😏

[prisma yarrow]

that is fine with me

[prisma yarrow]

@sota you just lvl up your stage 1

[outer surge]

Catching up on House League prizing. For starter decks, Full Firepower has just been sent to @hasty saffron .
I still need deck selections for Ethit and @supple condor

The decks I have available are:
Natural Defenders
Toxic Brawlers
Dust Enchanters
All Out Mud

AutoDrone prizing will be opened today at the end of This Week In Illuvium

Illuvium has already sent the Illuvium BEYOND prizing. Including the missed prizing from the previous week. They should be all caught up now.

[calm raven]

@ashen mango 😂

not even close against all those s1

[low comet]

this should be illegal hahahhaha

[prisma yarrow]

his name alone scared me

[ashen mango]

Empath power

[prisma yarrow]

but toxic counter verdant

[low comet]

4 empath better than 5 bulwark now?

[prisma yarrow]

i had both

[vale zephyr]

ahahah Sota got punished I almost got punished like that yesterday ^^

[ashen mango]

Yeah, it's so much harder than stage 2s

[low comet]

he doesnt care about the +mmr hahahaha as long as its not - hahaha

[prisma yarrow]

i think he is doing what he wants, keep players happy once in a while so I get some dopamine

[vale zephyr]

i 'm kidding, i help hektor yesterday vs bot to not be bottom 4 while using only s1

[ashen mango]

Yeah it's not like I gave it to you either, I tried to come back but got rekt anyways

Congrats for your 100hp win

[prisma yarrow]

i think the 4th toxic vs verdant on my scoriox gave me that free win,

[prisma yarrow]

first time I tried 4 toxic 3 beserker, ouff I got hurt

[prisma yarrow]

i hate rogue, i never have time to reposition that i did not had time to put my phophorus

[ashen mango]

What a beautiful sight 🥹

[prisma yarrow]

lol

looks like I made it in purpose so they dont bring them back

[torn flume]

why my rogue isnt like this

I always lose

skill issue right?

[prisma yarrow]

i spread my tank and wanted to put my backline up, cound not, the ramphite heat like 4-5 ullivials alone, i could had not be worst positionning

@calm raven you in game

if you dont come at all i dont think you will lose point

[high snow]

Rogues are probably one if not the strongest stat check build you can go. You either kill everything fast enough or you die

This was my last game. I nearly one even when the third place played rogues as well

[torn flume]

ouch nerf hits diff

[ashen mango]

A composite helps a ton as well

[prisma yarrow]

it help to have spore and adorado

[high snow]

I did not get Malura

With Malura I win this lobby 100 %

[prisma yarrow]

just for you @ashen mango that is my revenge

[ashen mango]

Bullying the small penguin

[calm raven]

i'm still alive ? 😂

[prisma yarrow]

lol

[high snow]

https://tenor.com/view/uhh-negative-wheezer-skymed-204-that's-a-negative-gif-8495504445417449083

[outer sphinx]

@outer surge just checking out your stream, thank you very much for both last weeks and this weeks charge runs

[outer surge]

My pleasure! Congrats on the great finishes!

[outer surge]

Just out of curiosity @desert garden I've never played your game. How is it that "I" am playing against people?

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-twin-matrix-gif-12594344

[pseudo phoenix]

2/8

[desert garden]

Good question. Matches are asynchronous right now.

The match finder first looks for another Ranger’s saved Clash deck near your current rating.

If no suitable saved deck is available, it creates a temporary opponent deck from public Illuvial data, using Rangers in a similar rank/power range.

So the battle is against a deck snapshot, not a live player controlling the match in real time.

[outer surge]

Oh okay. That's neat. Definitely had me startled for a second though lol. All good. Thank you

[prisma yarrow]

I dont get it we should have a luck meter to know when the RNG will go in complete non sense mode

there no point to know there is 4 more of something if you roll 50 gold at 50% chance for t1 and end up not getting it

and imagine I rolled the 20x free roll before ..... making t1s3 is so much luck

[native mauve]

t1s3 is the riskiest play, if uncontested and hit, good chance of win...but very high chance of miss and come last) feast or famine

have to be selective when to use it i think

[outer surge]

Yeah, pretty much every time I shoot for Seeforus I lose. Even when uncontested. Only exception is the Brightland Steppes region bonus that gives you 20x Free Rerolls

[prisma yarrow]

i tried to make my t1 on that map... but I am done with that completly, i need 2 win to get the points I loose when I end up 5th cause of that

[ember sail]

I came in 1st place in that game, I was surprised to see your HP melting away.

[low comet]

@noble hinge we're up against level 42 bots hahaha

[noble hinge]

I'm trying to level my earth Illuvials and they just got destroyed.🤣

[low comet]

hard to play 70 econ against them hahaha i know it will backfire on you hahaha ggs

[noble hinge]

So true!

[ashen mango]

Curious to try out your game 👀

[vivid stirrup]

what has been y'alls solution to safely lending/renting illuvials? 🤔

[ashen mango]

In my deals we just trust each other

100% safe 👌

The person renting could also lend something of similar value for the duration of the trade

[torn flume]

probably escrow

if theres no collateral

maybe KYC

but only the renter can know his true name and the midman

[ashen mango]

The ideal would be IMX allowing Rich to manipulate smart contracts for his renting website

[desert garden]

This is live: play dot illuvimkt dot com

[ashen mango]

Got you @primal flax 😏

Same @native mauve ⚔️

Nice try @jolly whale

Come on it's fun 😁

[jolly whale]

I dont know what this is lol

[ashen mango]

All you have to know is that you lost

It's Trinix's game

You can play it right now

[jolly whale]

Ha! That was but a fraction of my true power!

[ashen mango]

I just beat myself @desert garden

I won fortunately

But I also lost

[desert garden]

Bug, checking.

[ashen mango]

Is there a way to fight 1 particular opponent? I keep trying to face sergioytc but the matchmaking doesn't want

[desert garden]

When your deck is in opponent side, no rating change.

[primal flax]

oh I saw this on X, looks fun

[desert garden]

Not yet, but already planned the Ranger Challenge

[ashen mango]

Yeah, it's not a game one would play for hours every day but maybe a few hours per patch

[languid sparrow]

New update: Added 2x Damage Meters (Dealt & Received) along with Drone Health, Level, and Credit tracking. ➠illuvivault com/Gauntlet

You can now view a full damage breakdown by type through the new dual damage meters:
• Physical (red)
• Energy (teal)
• Pure (white)

Optimize your team composition by selecting the best augments based on each Illuvial’s primary damage type.

[desert garden]

Right now I'm working in Affinity Synergies (I'll release this week)
Next week I'm start working in abilities.

[ashen mango]

I love to see you guys improving your websites 🙂

I cannot climb anymore, when does the daily limit reset? @desert garden

[desert garden]

Yes, right now have a cap of 50 ranked games (daily).

[ashen mango]

Does it reset at midnight?

[desert garden]

This is dynamic based on past 24h, I'll update the UI to show time to reset.

[desert garden]

Fixed.

[languid sparrow]

Anything specific you would like to see ? 👀 😏

[ashen mango]

Collection value estimation would be neat

In $

For example: estimated Dr.Spoon collection value = $20842

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[languid sparrow]

Wait when ETH & ILV go up, value will has well. What about the potentiel new coming burning systeme in Deathmatch Mode 🔥

[jolly whale]

That was fun.... and a little rediculous

[torn flume]

gmgm