🎮〕illuvium-arena

[arctic turtle]

He had over 9k health

Toxic is a must

[west musk]

GGzz @wild kiln & @sturdy robin !

[wild kiln]

ggzz!!

[sturdy robin]

ggz bro ✨

[shut yacht]

No new minted cards until December. No fusing. Slow leveling. Tournaments imminent on Gauntlet…do I sense a card buying frenzy coming?

[edgy bough]

is it a known bug you cannot see illuvials in team planner?

since last patch

[jolly whale]

It was working last time I checked.

[native mauve]

hi guys, so to confirm if i set my illuvial team planner again will it save for the following matches?

[dark scaffold]

hey, you sure you logged in to the correct account? can you try reloging, lets see what happens

[dark scaffold]

any changes you do in the team planner should apply for the next match, yes

[high snow]

Same for me, I can not see any of my Illuvials

[tribal glade]

@worn tree Tested the new ascendant tonight, feels much better than the original. Great work on the changes

[edgy bough]

@dark scaffold not just me it seems. It shows my correct account on home page. And my illuvials got xp.

I’ll try to log out in again later today

[wild kiln]

6x exp packs when ?

[worn tree]

Happy you like it Tarren ❤️

[worn tree]

Soon!

[sturdy robin]

5/8

[high snow]

it worked now on my end

[wild kiln]

Predator Scoriox is great!! I'm lucky I managed to get 4 bloom🙏 @safe valve gg!!

[safe valve]

Preds in General are busted

[wild kiln]

Really? I tried it once yesterday and it seemed to hit pretty well

Was it better in the past?

[safe valve]

No i mean they op now

Can Make every autoattacker into a 1 tap machine

[warm isle]

Combo with slashing

[safe valve]

yea for example

[warm isle]

It work from arena lol

1 shot everything

[edgy bough]

noice! did you just log out then in again?

[high snow]

y I just logged in now and it worked

[edgy bough]

sweet ill try when i get home. you playing now?

[high snow]

I played some rounds of ascendant but I am doing a break now

[unkempt pendant]

5/8

[edgy bough]

this worked, cheers mate

[shut yacht]

Steam not what it once was

[edgy bough]

is it known that ranking shows 'not classified' ?

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-ok-lars-gif-25474530

@west plume

[west plume]

iam teaching the noobs a leasson

or atleast trying to

did you buy som high stat illuvials Rich?

[zenith mortar]

well this isnt fair

lol

@viral marsh

[west plume]

Just fake a disconnect Rich

you keep your honor intact

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/triggerfav-kick-flesh-wound-gif-13424530

i donty think i can kill one of his units

lol

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-gif-8057395

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/neogaf-8J1QwMjshEm2s

[west plume]

Let me know when you are in a game

[safe valve]

i am

🙃

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/cope-bird-trap-bird-trap-bird-cope-gif-9878295031528154539

@zenith mortar are you ready for your second beating today?

[zenith mortar]

yes

[west plume]

Lol,did you change your name

[zenith mortar]

no im moving accounts

Mass transferred all my illuvials

[west plume]

multi accounting...

https://tenor.com/view/ban-button-keyboard-press-the-ban-button-gif-16387934

[zenith mortar]

Yes because i compete for the top end

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-yes-of-course-gif-19803794

[zenith mortar]

no zkevm just finally made it easy enough to switch everything over

i need to move iluivtars and skins next

@viral marsh let me win 1 round

[edgy bough]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-cruise-shades-cool-smug-cool-shades-gif-18677159

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/real-gif-4390178

his illuvials are too powerful

[sturdy robin]

2/8 guys

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-fight-munchkin-GN857YcdvXZYc

[safe valve]

3/8

https://giphy.com/gifs/hoppip-how-i-met-your-mother-barney-stinson-AWv3UAFkgz39u

[sturdy robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/the-office-michael-heartbreak-pynZagVcYxVUk

@ashen mango are you coming?

6/8

[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/i-wonder-if-rita-is-looking-at-the-same-moon-rita-bennet-rita-connected-by-light-the-getaway-gif-157274919593125001

[west plume]

please dont

another Noob lobby it seems

[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/sampiyonlar-ligi-futbol-gif-11676582

lobby

[west plume]

this one should be fun

[sturdy robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hugging-4CTlTWDNqcBva

[zenith mortar]

noob lobby

[sturdy robin]

😄

[sturdy robin]

Hektor 7th 😬

[west plume]

its not important to win,more important to participate.

[sturdy robin]

I think the same 😉

xp xp xp

[west plume]

aslong as i beat Rich

but i have a feeling he has been shopping....

[zenith mortar]

wierd

[west plume]

did the game start?

[sturdy robin]

yep

[west plume]

ah ok

[sturdy robin]

are you papad..k? 😄

[zenith mortar]

yes

[sturdy robin]

wow

gl guys

😉

[zenith mortar]

ill lose in the end haha

[sturdy robin]

I'm waiting for another weapon

🙁

[zenith mortar]

spoons units too good

[sturdy robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/angry-spongebob-squarepants-strong-D7z8JfNANqahW

[zenith mortar]

does anyone else have disappearing augments haha

its there

and then i click

and its gone

over and over

[west plume]

Havent seen that one

[sturdy robin]

Spoooon....my units 🙁

[safe valve]

yea happens here and there... mostly when you get one from drone augments, but also happens sometimes with the little orbs

[edgy bough]

anyone elses game lagging majorely?

terrible performance

[west plume]

there is one map that bugs out

[edgy bough]

im in abyssal

[zenith mortar]

lol

[edgy bough]

cant place or move illvuials/augments

[zenith mortar]

so close to killing spoon

sooooo close

[west plume]

did you go shopping?

[zenith mortar]

no

im poor

i need you to shop on datakingz

so i get fees haha

so i can shop

[edgy bough]

@prisma yarrow ur game lagging too?

[prisma yarrow]

big time its hard

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/fist-pump-yeah-yes-kip-aaron-ruell-gif-13138134

[sturdy robin]

We have to play mud now when everyone is using the new meta

[zenith mortar]

mine is a bit too

[sturdy robin]

🤦🤣

[zenith mortar]

probbaly why lars beat me

[edgy bough]

ok at least not just me

its so shit

[west plume]

lets end it here

[zenith mortar]

nooooooooooooooooooooooo

[west plume]

you see how my Illuvitar is glowing?

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/im-melting-wicked-witch-wizard-of-oz-of-the-west-water-gif-17977767

[west plume]

glowing of success

[edgy bough]

@modern linden you as well?

[zenith mortar]

spoon what was happening there lol

was squizz just machine gunning

uh oh

not looking good

[sturdy robin]

gg guys

crazy rng

🙁

🤦

I have a perfect vermilliare and I will never be able to use it. When there is an update everyone uses the same illuvials.

[west plume]

GG

[wild kiln]

ggz!!! <<3

[safe valve]

1 predator rekt you 😄

[sturdy robin]

one more

?

I will never use the new build again because I see everyone forcing it.

😆

[safe valve]

😄

[sturdy robin]

5/8

[safe valve]

Never play reroll anymore.... Spent so much Gold and didn't got what i want

[sturdy robin]

What was the end result?

I was very nervous. I didn't watch it

[sturdy robin]

Well, no one came to the new lobby

🙁

[prisma yarrow]

its lagging too much i guess...

[wild kiln]

... 366 ms

so why 😠

[prisma yarrow]

i dont know how it works, may be if one in the lobby has a bad connection it affect everyone else, I got no clue

[edgy bough]

@west plume said it was a specific lobby. did u get Abysmal again?

im in Taiga now and performance is night + day

[prisma yarrow]

no clue, I dont pay attention to lobby

[west musk]

wen patch fix abyssal

[sturdy robin]

abra bot or real player?

[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/hats-off-józef-the-hourglass-sanatorium-taking-of-my-hat-greetings-gif-27453787

@lime cloak gg!

[lime cloak]

gg again Sir 🤗

[west plume]

The new map(cant remeber the name) is bugged and will lag a ton i get 10Fps when i play on it

[safe valve]

highly recommend everyone picking a battleboard skin and not play on default battleboard.
So when you have to play abyssal basin, you just face it against bots or players that are playing on default board. And even then it's a coinflip, every 2nd round you play on your board which shouldn't lag.

[viral marsh]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

like on this ?

[safe valve]

no

[viral marsh]

so, how good my chances on this battleboard? got shine and impossible to play at all. and remove low fps?

it's old bug. with this battleboard and brightland. when bright become x2-x10 more saturated.
around 5-6 month here. i report it 3 or 4-5 times. but who care.
do we got fix for this any time soon?

[safe valve]

deactivate potato mode if you wana play it, or choose another skin until it's fixed

[viral marsh]

when fix? 2027?

it's why i play without any skins. they even more buged that basic

[safe valve]

that's fine, do whatever you like

[viral marsh]

so, no answer? half year this bug here - and it's your advice? accept it and enjoy?

[safe valve]

i'm just a mod, i don't know this stuff 😄

i know the same as you do

[shut yacht]

Lagggggggggg

[edgy bough]

WEN

[shut yacht]

Great laggy game sylen…big back and forth…I’d love to watch that one if it was streamed on potato mode

[outer surge]

GG! 😄

Yeah that Abyssal Basin lag makes it completely unplayable. I already lack the APM to truly execute on what I want to do and that lag made it so much worse.. Heatbreaking to hear that the issue has been around for a rather long time it seems.

That said, you would have absolutely won no matter what 😄

[shut yacht]

Not until I got Phosphorus was I confident

Heady S1 hurt me a bit

[outer surge]

I was trying to steal Phos and Adors. You got them both anyway

[shut yacht]

I saved coins the entire game for that…didn’t roll until level 10

[outer surge]

Damn

[shut yacht]

Still had to spend to 0 and wait for the last battle to get it, so you did good at holding it back…lag helped too

[viral marsh]

it was other issue.
they try made the surrounding space is more detailed. but time to time it's bugged.
i tell about brightness bug for different battleboard.

[outer surge]

Ohhh I see. Unfortunate, because it does look great. Just wished the lag was gone

[jolly whale]

Leaderboards just reset!

I think it would be really good for the slowly dwindling player base to have some kind of incentive to play for! Sooner rather than later! Is this the month?

[west musk]

1/8

https://tenor.com/view/come-on-over-gif-19484966

[ebon aspen]

5/8

[edgy bough]

Reset is last Thursday of each month, or something like that?

[wild kiln]

I think it might have been reset just now

I am not sure

[jolly whale]

That's right

[ebon aspen]

no chance

[wild kiln]

gg! @ebon aspen

[ebon aspen]

but tried

gg

[west musk]

2/8

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-partner-gif-24556451

[edgy bough]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[shut yacht]

Gg, spun for that adorius and phosphorus at the end, wasted 40 coins needed one of each

[wild kiln]

gg! @astral tiger and ggz!! @shut yacht @edgy bough 🙏

[astral tiger]

GG you too again first but I don't have experience so much in Arena but slowly slowly I get

Almost I got my Whole set now just leveling all

[wild kiln]

Yeah, I know, frend, I'm still learning too, but I've played a lot of games in the last 5 days, you improve by playing. In the last game, if I hadn't switched back to Scoriox, I probably would have finished 3rd... I used phorus completely wrong, it wasn't dealing any damage

I'm waiting for the 6x exppack... I hope it arrives soon

[edgy bough]

XP packs are still just in test net correct fren?

Oh I just checked

They’re live

[wild kiln]

mate is currently on sale in 2x packs, I bought one but it's not really enough :/

[edgy bough]

I wonder why it allows me to confirm purchase a second time?

I didn’t click it lol, but doesnt stop me from doing it

[wild kiln]

I didn't know that 🤔

[edgy bough]

I’m not willing to be the Guinea pig 🤣

[jolly whale]

Does it extend the time? Or do you get 2x and a 2x?

I'd prolly buy another for an extra 2x

[astral tiger]

2x2=4 🙂

[jolly whale]

That's the hope!

[drifting kindle]

really?? does it stack??

[dark scaffold]

only duration is extended if you buy multiple x3 Boosts

[jolly whale]

Thanks Peter, do you know when the bigger multiplier will be released?

[dark scaffold]

no idea, I would assume this is still in testing mode so there would not be a concrete answer (all subject to change and all that jazz)

for now lets assume we have x3 and x7 coming, after this, if you guys want bigger, ping Nil until he surrenders xD

[jolly whale]

Good idea !

[sturdy robin]

I only bought the x2 boost for a week. Where can I see when it expires?

[west plume]

You can see it in the top left corner in the player menu

[sturdy robin]

you're right, ty mate 🙂

[regal hound]

https://giphy.com/gifs/big-brother-1984-is-watching-jjodKUUt92I7IKISL5

[sturdy robin]

@jolly whale gg. nice rng

[jolly whale]

Think we need a new meta! rev stale already

GG

[sturdy robin]

🤦

[sturdy robin]

I think every build should be the same. That way everyone will always spam the same build. The biggest stupidity is that there is always a meta

[jolly whale]

True.... but I feel that balance was pretty good pre latest patch. There was a lot of viable builds. Now we have 1-2 very dominante synergies

[sturdy robin]

I'm taking a break because these two games really annoyed me.

Gl to you

[jolly whale]

hehe bed time for me! U to bro

[sturdy robin]

everything will only get worse here. Haha 🤣

[sturdy robin]

Sleep well ✨

[urban coyote]

Drach is a very good player ❤️

[sturdy robin]

good player but he was also lucky 🙂 he got the ones I wanted earlier

[safe valve]

rumors say Katniss is better 👀

[sturdy robin]

now that everyone wants to play revenant, rng matters even more than before

[urban coyote]

Hehe.. he is better at illuvium.. I'm better at making the cocktails!! 😉

[urban coyote]

Bugger!

[safe valve]

oooh, that explains a lot... so when he has a row of bad games, you are the reason because the cocktails are too good 😄

[urban coyote]

...Drach is playing well.. I'll have to make not so good cocktails!!

[jolly whale]

....

[jolly whale]

Cocktails are off topic in this chat! Gonna need to use the ban hammer @safe valve

[safe valve]

but what if they affect your arena gameplay? 🤔

[jolly whale]

Definitely not in a positive way lol

[safe valve]

one last qustion then i'm gona stop... otherwhise some mod mutes me for real 😄
What's your fav cocktail mixed from her?

[jolly whale]

Hmmm Definitely a dan of a Tommy’s Margarita, but mine are probably better!

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[sturdy robin]

gg @outer surge 🙂

it was enjoyable

[outer surge]

That's one way to describe it while I have patch 1.12 flashbacks But yes GG 😄

[west musk]

why is it always revenant? XD

[sturdy robin]

Idk 🤷

I just go with the flow

🤣

[hot pond]

I wondered about that way too often

[edgy bough]

Revenant OP?

[sturdy robin]

revenant+grilla

[outer surge]

Definitely feels that way. Rogue Empath Revenant. As soon as a Rogue or two goes down you get insane shields and attack damage across the entire team. It's... frustrating. To put it nicely.

[sturdy robin]

🤦

[edgy bough]

ok makes sense. i think my 2nd-4th places last night were going down to those perma shield teams

[sturdy robin]

I won't use this build against real players anymore

[outer surge]

Unlike patch 1.12 it's not just Revenant though. It's just mass empath in general.

At first the early complaints I thought was just people coping but damn I think I see it now lol

[mellow bolt]

@zenith mortar what kind of social media competition?

[viral marsh]

not everyone understand how play it yet and start spam this build

[outer surge]

Not what I was trying to get at. It's in the game, it's not a 3 stacking of a broken augment glitch or anything like that. It's fair game

[west musk]

Everyone just play hungry hungry hippos with grilla and kangaroo… they cheap… deny the wrongdoers 😈

[lime cloak]

@prisma yarrow GG, Close one!

[prisma yarrow]

your whole team was H

i got to pay attention to that I guess GG

ouff i never notice that one was on the board too

[trim jetty]

hey , I cant find most of my illuvials in arena ownership is there a bug or something?

[arctic turtle]

How does ranger level work in Gauntlet? my ranger is only level 2 and i dont know why

[west musk]

1/8

https://tenor.com/view/treat-come-on-gif-21105191

[jolly whale]

I couldn't even see my ranger level last I looked. How do you know he's level 2?

[west musk]

3/8

[void hemlock]

Everyone is having the same problem with FPS dropping to 13?

Is this something with optimization or is my PC dying?

[dark scaffold]

we do have issue with performance on one of our maps, most likely you got this one in your game (abyssal basin) its being worked on 🫡

[void hemlock]

I mean the arena

[dark scaffold]

arena has custom "skins" for each region you randomly get when starting a match

this one:

[void hemlock]

Got it, thank you

[arctic turtle]

I look at omega since it goes up 1% per level. Im at 102% so level 2. Most other players are above 110% to 130% (level 10 to 30)

[jolly whale]

Damn.... smart bro!

will check that out

[arctic turtle]

You have to look at it at the beginning of the game before it gets changed by augments or synergy

It is supposed to be the average level of the illuvals you have selected in the ownership tab. But I hardly have any below level 10 selected so I would think if was higher than that

[jolly whale]

Anyone know who Zxxxy is ? Would love to tell him to turn off the Basin battle board!

[jolly whale]

I have 113%, so I guess that means level 13..... seems very low compared to my illuvials

[arctic turtle]

I have a fairly average level team but im at level 2. So i wonder if something else i affecting it or if it is a bug

[jolly whale]

If it goes off the team planner I dont think I have anything below level 30

unless it takes the average of primaries and secondaries????

[viral marsh]

i think wip - mean work in progress. that mean ranger lvl not work as should.

[arctic turtle]

Ok thanks because I currently have one of the lowest level rangers hopefully they can figure out something soon

[arctic turtle]

Even if it takes both primary and secondary i should be much higher

[dusty gust]

lol @copper fossil clearly ive got no clue how to play ascendant!

Does ascendant not give xp?

[west plume]

It gives a small amount of XP

[west musk]

Sooo @worn tree when patch?

[worn tree]

Next week

[sturdy robin]

Will the grilla be stronger? 🤞🥹

😆🥰

[worn tree]

Grilla will get its energy cost severely increased, and to compensate for that, the omega damage and clone health will be higher. This will reduce the on faint spam that is being abused in the current meta

[viral marsh]

hope grilla can 1 shot Ophisto in this next patch.
so we can get back in past to this grilla omega power.

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-wipe-gif-16574265568803907770

[sturdy robin]

4/8 🤣 😂

@viral marsh 😄

@ashen mango ?

https://giphy.com/gifs/BbJdwrOsM7nTa

This is a good patch. I love it 🙏

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-dancing-orangutan-monkey-dance-happy-monkey-gif-12702179649294906179

😂

6/8

[shut yacht]

Ahhhh, just delete abyssal basin from rotation!!!!

[jolly whale]

Spread the word! Its killing me!

[sturdy robin]

Ramone. Rematch? 🙂

btw, gg

I was in the yard 😂

[ebon aspen]

4/8

[sturdy robin]

5/8

[ebon aspen]

6/8

my t2 S2 Lynx lvl1 ??? i have a lvl 30 one is this a bug

[shut yacht]

Shouldn’t be watching tv while playing, didn’t use my bankroll at the end. Gg BON and tank, 3rd with 70 coins in purse

[prisma yarrow]

@west musk just wanted to try psion cause I saw your name.... its sad how bad my best unit become useless

[west musk]

revenant is just too op and psion is too un-p now

that patch cant come soon enough... very very unbalanced right now

but to be fair it is a whole new syst4m so there are bound to be issues... but lets hope those get tamed next week

until then... its chase the anteater

[ebon aspen]

2k Omega Phyrox 😂

[sturdy robin]

It would be great if there were more illuvials and more build options. Until then, the best solution would be for the team not to overcomplicate things and just make every build equally strong.

It’s annoying that sometimes you can’t really use certain Illuvials because the whole Arena is trying to run the same one… It’s becoming meta-dependent, and we’re not a fan of that.

[ebon aspen]

get used to this cause that is what we will have till the end of the year

[sturdy robin]

I guess everyone agrees with me.

How are they going to organize competitions with an arena game like this?

Nonsense

One month Ryplance is $500, the next month it’s still Gnarl… come on. Even as a joke, that’s just bad

🙂

[prisma yarrow]

what is this its so slow

this background is so unplayable

[ebon aspen]

this game is unplayble with these shields

2k Omega Scoriox can't even do anything 😲

[shut yacht]

3 of 5 games today on abyssal basin…not a game…btw gg tank nice draw at the end for behemoth

[prisma yarrow]

my heart beat

my weapon was for behemoth, it took up to lvl 28 to make it

dust/behemoth

[jolly whale]

6/8 come get some noobs

[prisma yarrow]

i still have a hard time believing that while I have 4 dust 5 fire you won like 3-4 round in a row

[jolly whale]

dust is surprisingly strong

especially if you get invul drone augament..... can be invul for 16/20 seconds of the game start

wait 14 seconds

[prisma yarrow]

early i was winning game at 19-20 second the other team had no chance at all

[shut yacht]

If I got phosphorus, you would’ve lost

[edgy bough]

gg @jolly whale

[jolly whale]

You too!

Experimenting with some new builds!

[edgy bough]

someone plz ban abyssal basin omg

so painful

[edgy bough]

yah!

[jolly whale]

So bad!

[edgy bough]

i was using mindful breathing 🥲

[jolly whale]

lol... Did it help?

[edgy bough]

haha got me through. the lag just makes it an extremely slow game

[jolly whale]

yeah rolling sucks

[edgy bough]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-binh-gif-6142726653922245520

[prisma yarrow]

i am a bit confuse

[hoary spindle]

GGs @west musk

[west musk]

ggz... intense

[hoary spindle]

hahah thought I had you... in a panic I sold my Fox for Adorius

That and you got the Death Bird Stage 3 You have some strong Illuvials Sir I need some time to level mine up a bit lol

[west musk]

The bird saved the game

your scoriox was nassty

[hoary spindle]

hahah Scoriox was crushing... wish I got the 4th Magma Composite you still would probably have won lol GGs and goodluck Im catching some zzzzzzzzzz

[prisma yarrow]

this also end up been useless against 4 revenant. my 2 behemoth, are lvl 60, 7k plus life will seam to melt in 2-3 hit at the end

[sturdy robin]

4 spore would have been better 🤪

now revenant + 5 empath is the strongest

[wild kiln]

#1475483887743402005 message

👆

[prisma yarrow]

that looks sick

[low comet]

do we still get 2x bonus for main affinity units?

[unkempt pendant]

4/8

+3

+1

[viscid otter]

My god Spoon, that Chukool is a monster with those augments!

[sturdy robin]

Is the owner not updating the illuvirank site? I haven't seen my new illuvials for weeks.

[safe valve]

i think it picks the highest level to rate your collection there

[sturdy robin]

I have 10 perfect illuvials. not three.

[humble plover]

why is my Jotun with 3 Behemoth melt like butter with Chukoorl stage 1. this is nonsense ..

[viral marsh]

coz other player have better lvl/stats/synergy in team?

[safe valve]

it was chukoorl stage 2, but yea it's nonsense

[humble plover]

oh even stage 2 , but melt like b. . .b bbbbutter, awww !!

[west musk]

4 lobbies simultaneous... nice

[arctic turtle]

i think a great fix to Revenant and templar would be to only make the buffs last only for 5-8 seconds

[supple epoch]

Every one sleeping ? 1/8

[west musk]

2/8

@safe valve gg
another?

[safe valve]

gg

yea why not

[west musk]

ggz

pho stealer XD

[safe valve]

GG

was always thinking about swapping him in to get the 3rd bloom but didn't know who to take out 😄

[sturdy robin]

Gg

[sturdy robin]

Vermillia stealer XD

[safe valve]

yea he got them fast

[sturdy robin]

It's unbelievable that such a huge bug has to wait so long to be fixed.

The game is unenjoyable. Everyone wants to get a few illuvials. The luckiest person wins. Depends on RNG

[safe valve]

yea... i have a feeling that won't change much with the new synergy system, just gona be different illuvials from patch to patch.

[sturdy robin]

Do you know who manages the illuvirank site?

[safe valve]

no

might be @regal owl

[sturdy robin]

sad...then I'll go back to beyond

[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-punch-ground-punching-ground-it-shouldve-been-me-it-shouldve-been-me-not-him-gif-27446150

[sturdy robin]

@ashen mango game? 🙂

[ashen mango]

I might not play until next patch

[sturdy robin]

I'm only playing one more game today. Come for a revenant clash 🙏😄

[ashen mango]

Another time maybe, it's too late for me

[sturdy robin]

It's late here too. But ok. See you next time 😉 good night bro ✨

[jolly whale]

https://giphy.com/gifs/umquT0OyQ2AZW

[jolly whale]

Damn... thought I had a team that might beat Empath/Rev/Grilla @sturdy robin

[sturdy robin]

Unfortunately the current patch is very buggy

Btw, gg 🙂

[jolly whale]

GG

I pretty much hit everything I wanted.... just couldnt get through shields

I think once they halve empath shields and nerf grilla that build is over

[sturdy robin]

It would be nice if all builds were equally strong. That way everyone would always spam the same build.

I have to use it because everyone uses it. I tried a few other builds but I wasn't even in the top 4.

so the base is rev/grilla/5 empath. The rest depends on the weapon

now it's harder to make verminhio than dualeph

🤣🤣🤣🤣😆

[jolly whale]

Ive had some success with 5 bulwark/5nature and spamming hp augaments... the healing is pretty insane since every scales off max hp. Add in some bloom and Toxic and it gets really scarey..... Still very hard to beat a well played rev/empath/grilla

[sturdy robin]

Yeah bro

[sturdy robin]

Do you need that many grillas? :))

[jolly whale]

What is this mud madness

[sturdy robin]

I thought I would be nice and not use the rev/grilla build. I won't make this mistake again. 😆🤣

+gg

@wild kiln gg bro 🙂 🫂

[sturdy robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/dumb-ways-1i6zbhYXV1kRO

[junior geyser]

why cant i see my ranger skins in arena locker?

[jolly whale]

@wild kiln Are you SirDexter Leviathan?

[wild kiln]

Yess frend!!! that was pure chaos

[jolly whale]

Yeah, great game. Well played!

[pseudo phoenix]

gg dr.spoon

[safe valve]

gg

[unkempt pendant]

6/8

[unkempt pendant]

5/8

[shut yacht]

Nice deck apex, put leveled me

Out*

[outer surge]

Took this much Omega Power to win 1 round vs. Empaths by overtime time out. I think I need a break

[safe valve]

i saw that match live 😄
You fought hard there 🔥

[outer surge]

Thank you! Yeah, I've experimented as best as I could to prove to myself that there MUST be away to play around this as a Psion player. But nothing is working. Even went high empaths with a Grilla myself to see if there was a way. But nothing is working and I think I'm out of gas.

[safe valve]

yea, it's tough as a psion currently... but even if opponent doesn't play empatch you kinda are lost since you can't stack OP then 😅

[potent bloom]

Still for PC

[shut yacht]

Playing with spoon/ playing for 2nd at best gg

[prisma yarrow]

@outer surge them your ophisto tank my best guys the whole game

i never though psion vs 5 air could wipe out a 4k plus flud instantly

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-M4iOAkEAPwAnK

[prisma yarrow]

you played the best psion I ever saw

[outer surge]

Thank you so much That was extremely tough. In order to win as Psions I needed Ophisto, Seeforus, Dualeph, 5 empaths w/ Grilla bs, Dualeph with over 1000% Omega Power, and I STILL HAD TO WIN BY TIMEOUT. I'm exhausted after that one GG

[prisma yarrow]

lol

[shut yacht]

Ty for letting me win one round spoon, gotta give that glimmer of hope

[prisma yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/ufc-gif-601345209739991140

when you win vs @safe valve even one round

[safe valve]

you just needed some lucky grilla jumps.
This last round was unfortunately very unlucky with him being eliminated as one of the first illuvials.

[sturdy robin]

power of AI 😬 🔥

[prisma yarrow]

lol i new i was cook when you kill and I went to lvl 7early I told myself 7vs 5 that will be easy win, nope you bought a 6th guy

than I had no grilla the entire game nor ti ru

[safe valve]

needed to win that match 😄

[prisma yarrow]

I think I had revenant by round 4 but I bought 4 vermillia and never really got any after

[safe valve]

yea... they hard contested now.
if you want them you can't play tempo

[jolly whale]

..... damn thought I was a chance on that one

[prisma yarrow]

i wanted to crush hector and Drach early so you @safe valve eliminate them for me

lol

[jolly whale]

I'm bring aegis back

My gnarl had 10k hp

[prisma yarrow]

absolutly nothing in the RNG of me playing vs who and illuvials went well

[jolly whale]

That was quite the high level loby ggs

[sturdy robin]

gg....

[safe valve]

Gona have a Hard time... Drach often has a strong early game 😄

[prisma yarrow]

I did not get to know him much

[sturdy robin]

I didn't even have a vermillia when you already had the verminho

🤦

[jolly whale]

I was hoping you would all contest each other and I could win with an off meta team... but once spoon got all his stuff it was ggs

[sturdy robin]

Thanks team...the game is enjoyable

[prisma yarrow]

I am never buying 4 of them early again, I never end up with s3 any way

[safe valve]

I Tried that with playing Tempo... Not 1 build worked out reliably

[prisma yarrow]

i wanted to speed up lvl to get it, it trash my game completly

[jolly whale]

Im not sure what your attack power was on that Qunix and adoredo at the end but it felt like they where melting my entire team..... even with 3 toxic

[sturdy robin]

the arena has become disgusting 🤮

[safe valve]

they got pumped by rev/templar since they didn't got attacked

haven't checked, but must have been high

[sturdy robin]

if i knew i had a small chance i would play invoker or something else. limited, buggy, annoying. that's all i can say about arena 😡🤮

[safe valve]

• the 2% hp augment with stacked templar can do serious dmg

[jolly whale]

Oh right! I like that idea. Thx!

Does it ignore defense or is it like pure damage?

[safe valve]

think it's pure dmg... %dmg stuff has always been if i remember right.
But i don't build them tbh... i just get them out of the crates since the other 2 are worse of the purples 😄

[prisma yarrow]

mmmmmmmmmm

@safe valve my 3 spore didnt his job

[safe valve]

i think spore looks good on paper but is quite underwhelming in battle... maybe it's buggy 🤔
i shouldn't be able to obliterate so fast if you have 3 spores online...

[mighty tulip]

What are people playing/enjoying the most rn? Ascendant 💪 or Gauntlet ⚔️

[prisma yarrow]

ascendant total game is kind of sad

[west musk]

2/8

[low comet]

there are games you have to give up on certain illuvials because of the pool

I havent played much since 'ownership' update can't comment about the meta yet

[jolly whale]

Dayyyumm @wild kiln That was tight..... You had 1 shadow left on the board!

[wild kiln]

I'm curious, on my screen it looked like I had lost?
Didn't you have more Illuvials in the final seconds?
Malura / Blazenite + one more

[jolly whale]

We were in time over mode... on my screen it showed only a grilla copy

[wild kiln]

That was a very good game against this broken composition... congrats..
5 Bulwark + Bloom (2) strong.. I hadn't seen this before, it caught my attention

[jolly whale]

Its nice to have a build that can give rev a run for its money

5 Bulwark stacks well with 5 nature and bloom, the more hp you have the bigger the nature 3.5% heal

If you get luck with a bloom chip you can put it on the Gnarl or headi get over 20k hp..... Then he heals for like 1k hp per second

[wild kiln]

yes!! I was checking my damage-dealing illuvials; Rhamphyre was showing 30-35k damage, but yours health wasn't decreasing at all

[wild kiln]

thxs, I screenshot your composition during the match, I'll definitely try it

[jolly whale]

Enjoy!

[sturdy robin]

@worn tree It's finally Monday. Please stop this arena gambling and no more meta builds.

[regal owl]

Yes, we run the site. @sturdy robin

[spare frigate]

samsies.. no gamer wants to play a game when you know you are more than likely going to lose, from an unfair advantage due to ownership.

[frank moon]

we acquired under 100 new players without ownership and 250K in prizes

[arctic turtle]

Hopefully the new patch fixes most of the problems. I think the current biggest problem is revenant and empath and next could be Templar. I don't really see anything else too problematic but with revenant being so strong right now it makes testing anything else very hard

[spare frigate]

you had a language barrier.. when that was lifted.. another was created at the same time (ownership)

[sturdy robin]

I have 11 perfect illuvials but the site only shows three. When will there be an update? 🙂

I can't see my new illuvials 😬

[frank moon]

I don't see barriers, just the curse of endless pivots and never trying web3, burning 250K "listening to the community" and disappointing anyone who held on to the this project

[lime cloak]

It's "Deal 2% Max Health Physical Damage".
But you are right if you pair it with the "Physical Piercing." and get some crazy attack speed, it can do some serious dmg.

Tried it a few times (With Templar) in my quest to find some counter to that broken Revenant/Empath - Grilla build. I think it can compete with that build, but it's not quite as "broken". (but it's something to keep an eye out for.... It's those "stacking abilities" that need to be adjusted, so they don't get out of control).

Currently I am not really playing any more until next patch. 🙂

[safe valve]

Don't play much either until patch.
Maybe here and there a game purely for leveling purposes

[wild kiln]

#1475483887743402005 message

What is the actual probability of this being implemented? Do you have any info? Nil doesn't post in that channel, and if the upcoming update only nerfs Empath, Revenant, and Grilla, I’m not sure if much will change overall... Honestly, waiting weeks for every new update isn't sending very positive signals

At the very least, nerfing more features makes more sense.. Would it be so bad if we acted accordingly?

[safe valve]

I don't know.

Also i'm no gamedesigner, so not sure if it's even a valid request 😄
For me personally it just feels like synergies overall are way too strong. Instead of building a team of illuvials, i rather build a team of synergies and then you work with whatever illuvials that synergy offers, if that makes sense.

It also makes the rock, paper, scissors system way too impactful for my taste if synergies get that strong. If they stay as strong as they are now it requires lategame pivots or you loose even tho you played your game very good if an opponent counters you by coincidence, and lategame pivots are almost impossible where you might need t1 illuvials in your comp to counter the last couple people remaining in a lobby.

[wild kiln]

I totally agree with you,

We were in a lobby together when this patch first dropped—I was running Scoriox / Rhamphite at level 9. You had a similar comp, but at level 10, you dropped a stg2 t0 Bulwark on the board... I really enjoyed watching that fight; even though it was just a T0, that stun was doing work. I remember thinking, I should definitely start doing that too..

but then these weird, broken things started happening, and instead of actually experiencing the game, like many others, we keep clicking on Empath/Revenant 😔

It's fun to notice the small things that make a difference and then try them out... that's what I mean... I hope a lot of things get nerfed and the experience, the learning part becomes more appealing

Also, unfortunately, I can't say I support the heavy nerf to drone augments. The previous version was much better, and I really enjoyed experimenting with so many different builds. Right now, it feels way too limited

The more limited the number of augments is, the easier it might become to find the 'overpowered' ones. I don't know, it just feels that way 🤷

[worn tree]

Hey guys, we just brought on Testnet an update with the following adjustments:

Bots & Ranger Strength Increased

• Recalculated Average Active Ownership using only the first collection choice.
• Higher average TPI and Active Ownership → stronger Bots and Rangers.

Forge Augment Reinstated

• Original Forge Augment system restored for deeper strategy.
• Improved UI descriptions for clarity.

XP Boosters UI Improved

• Displays total extended duration when stacking boosters.
• Shows both booster categories simultaneously if active.
• Renamed from “3x / 7x” to “+200% / +600%” for clarity.

Leaderboard Access in Queue

• Players can now view the leaderboard while waiting in queue.

Ownership Removed from Casual Mode

• No ownership bonuses in Casual.
• Designed to create a more beginner-friendly experience.

---

We aim to bring this to PROD really soon.

[arctic turtle]

This looks good are the new balances also in this patch and if so what are they

[viral marsh]

all balance and meta will depend how they balance ranger.
if he still be just slot for synergy - not sure something changes much.
but if he become real unit, who can survive and doing dmg - more comps will be avaible to play.

but still - if %/flat things synergys not get touched - half of synergys stay usseles, and other half will be play.

[arctic turtle]

I agree I also think synergys that gives % stat boost when illuvials die for the rest of the match should get changed to a time frame like 5 seconds (revenant and templar) that might fix them. I also don't think gorilla getting it omega often is that much of a problem but it shouldn't count as another illuvial when it is destroyed. I think that might be able to fix alot and we can see what happens after that

[wild kiln]

how do we test the Ranger-related part on the testnet?

For example, is it possible to add leveled illuvials etc. to accounts? If you can do that, maybe then we can understand

[viral marsh]

if you change revenant/templar - have fix toxic as well, which permanent debuff enemys.
but then noone will play it, and only units will be thing T4-T5. synergys will mean nothing mostly.

[arctic turtle]

There aren't any rewards right now i don't see the problem of just sending it to mainnet right away

[arctic turtle]

I think we need a lot of changes. Every time we get a huge patch it breaks so much and takes forever to get it right only to then get another huge patch that reworks and breaks everything again

[viral marsh]

ye, i agree. and it's strange.
instead made game and then just implement balances, small updates, events
and add new mechanics to feel game fresh -
we got full rework again and again.

[arctic turtle]

Last patch I feel was in a good place besides a bit more balancing and a few broken augments. And now we have to go through everything all over again

[wild kiln]

testnet 3/8

[west musk]

How’s testnet version feeling?

[wild kiln]

It's good to see Forge Augments back
I tried Empath / Revenant; they aren't destroying everything like they do in the current live version
but the real question is what happens once the stats and levels actually kick in

bots seem a bit more active in the game now; they are definitely stronger in the early and mid-game

sitting quietly above 70 gold might become much harder now

[west musk]

Sounds hopeful… I’ll hop it later today and check it out… but yah guess it’s hard to tell without stats

Also is abyssal fixed?

[wild kiln]

I tried to eco in two different matches, but my HP dropped to 40-50 in both

[wild kiln]

I haven't come across an abyssal map yet; I'll write about it if I do

[viral marsh]

you play without stats/lvls.
ofc bots will feel stronger.
you can try actual version of game in casual - it will be same.

[humble plover]

6/8

[viral marsh]

get fixed

new meta

[wild kiln]

abyssal is still the same..

[viral marsh]

they increase energy for cast to 200. and grilla have starting energy 50.
it's mean 1st cast = main cast.
to reduce time for 1st copy can use 3 aug's:
have play revenant+water dager, and if get tsunamy grilla will jump every 2 second like now.
still 5 empath = 24% shields

[viral marsh]

revenants still have same % to dmg increase.
and they destroy everything now coz buff team strong when grillas copy die.
with old augs this build become even more stronger

[wild kiln]

It seems I couldn't get it to run correctly then... what needs to be done before moving to mainnet

[edgy bough]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-forever-waiting-for-you-it's-been-84-years-meme-gif-3221316472416716605

[mighty tulip]

I've played 3 games of this latest patch now and Jesus christ man. Why is every patch so broken 😅

Any other game would patch within hours to fix such imbalances. Why is every patch plagued by broken units and just left for weeks in a toxic state. Is nobody testing these patches before they go out.

[west musk]

Well... they seem to have diverted resources and attention away from arena and onto mmo and R2E. So there isn't much dev resources going into arena...
I think what's disappointing is the claim that there would be tournaments... so we practice for said tournaments and no tournaments come. On top of that a new synergy system implemented that changes the whole game. So everyone has to start from scratch, with little dev resources and no tournaments. feels bad.

[safe valve]

Doing such drastic changes and then say dev Stop for arena is for sure a questionable decision 😄
Hope they don't do tournaments with such Balance Problems, won't be good Marketing when the Wohle Lobby is playing the Same comp except the one dude trying something uncontested and get rekt to 8th place anyways 😅

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-13924942762937112293

[viral marsh]

play 7/10 games uncontested corner-magma on last IPL and got good placement.

[viral marsh]

you can't understand what good or not in testnet, when you don't have stats/lvl's and ranger scaling.
we got back augs - i love it, so you have to think a bit what you need to play. but at other hand we have stats again on them, so probably 1 unit with 3 aug will be killing machine again (Scoriox/Slashin+3revenant)
they change synergy's a bit. 3 inferno with 5% dmg probably be back on meta.
but nature/verdant/enchanter still same.

probably we will see different patch on mainnet. if no - it's just small changes to grilla/bufs on fait. and ranger.
and hope we finally get this 200%-600% exp buff. probably i'l play 1-2 week to get my low lvl units to 60.

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/puppet-awkward-looking-what-side-eye-gif-15476992

[mighty tulip]

DAO needs to push for a change of leadership for this project.

This project has been aimless, reactionary and without a core vision for years. $60M, 4 years and a playerbase of only 20 players. We need to start calling this what it is. A failure of leadership

[lime cloak]

Also tried the new testnet version, and I do like the "old augments" better for sure!... but still seems to have the same problem with the "On Ally Faint" mechanics. I wonder if it would help if it could be a timed buff instead (if possible to change it like that).. so Revenant would get the AD buff for something like 5sec. (it would still be strong, but not as broken as it is now) 🤔

Some Class/Affinity Composites still needs some work, but assume that will come.

[prisma yarrow]

this map... so hard to play..... didnt matter cause i faced 4 rev.... witch is probably as broken as the triple aug in the last patch

with this 4 rev... there is no point to pivot to be hype.... with 5 water....

[viral marsh]

with 5 second buff it will be dead synergy

[lime cloak]

Might be too short yes… not sure how else to fix the “on ally faint”, but maybe it could have a max applied x times. So it can’t stack unlimited times. 🤔

[viral marsh]

without grillas copy it won't stack unlimited. you can get 6-12 stacks only for last 1-2 units i think.
but with 3-4 rev, it will be +300-500% dmg.
with old healing augs - malura+slashin will be painfull.

[lime cloak]

Yes, its the Grilla copy that makes it extra broken, which is why it might be best option to make some “max amount applied”. (On top of that, the rev. Ad% might also needs some adjustments, but that should be more straightforward)

[ashen mango]

Let's say that I don't have an Exalted Water Atippo, does it count as lvl 1 with 0 TPI in the ranger and bot strength calculation? @worn tree

[west musk]

Great video @outer surge
Hopefully the team is paying attention

[outer surge]

Thank you so much I hope so too.

[outer surge]

What did you feed this guy!? That is incredible

[prisma yarrow]

triple augment +4 omega per hit

[next flame]

Hey @west musk Why don't you lose hp when you lose the round???

[west musk]

??

[next flame]

I wont round 23 and you still had 100hp

How?

[west musk]

I didnt lose any rounds

[next flame]

The adorius had 100% sheild?

[west musk]

was trying out a new comp tho

[next flame]

probably the game being the game

I won round 23 btw lol

[west musk]

maybe so I heard someone else mention seeing visual difference at end of game yesterday

[next flame]

its happened a couple of time but only at the end when its 1v1 like every game

[regal owl]

Thanks for letting us know. We’ll look into it and get back to you.

[sturdy robin]

And the site still shows illuvials that I sold or traded a long time ago. Thanks for the feedback. Have a nice day 🙂

[regal owl]

Their official website has undergone a major revamp. The previous API no longer has updated records. We are working on it.

[sturdy robin]

Ok, thanks 🙂

[worn tree]

Thats correct Sota

[ashen mango]

Do its omega hits count as hits? I don't see how he can stack up OP otherwise

[prisma yarrow]

yea multiples hits yes so it counter 5 empath

[ashen mango]

That's insane

Is that an S-tier comp then?

I guess you go for Tsunami if you can

[prisma yarrow]

some time but no necessary

[arctic turtle]

Um just a guess but these might end up being overpowered

I've already shown how strong %max health healing is on my axodon with just full nature now we have double that through verdant. And the damage from magma is going to be insane

[prisma yarrow]

even going to 2300+ omega power with my fludd goofyramphire got me

[outer surge]

12 days. Did not expect to have a brand new guide be outdated that fast

If I were to make a Custom Game right now, would that game have Ownership Stats on or off? @worn tree

[ashen mango]

It would be nice to be able to check out the ascendant leaderboard from the gauntlet leaderboard and vice versa, maybe an arrow the the right or a clearly visible tab would be even better @worn tree

Also a side bar allowing us to scroll down and up way faster would be top notch

[lime cloak]

Think Verdant is "after 10sec" and Magma is "on start" (unless they got changed). but they could potentially be quite strong, especially if Magma "Molten ground " stack on top of each other. 👀

Generally I think this patch looks like a good one and am glad the "old augments" are back.
Will have to test tonight 🙂

[shut yacht]

Update didn’t fix abyssal basin, cmon guys

[ashen mango]

Yeah 4 molten ground = 24% health per sec as energy damage

With 100 res you die in 9 sec

Assuming no heal/shield/invulnerability etc

[arctic turtle]

Ya i think it will be a good one but I just think those 2 might be too strong especially verdant with full nature and full empath or bulwark or both

[wild kiln]

Although almost everyone is bothered by the abyssal basin, I can't understand why it wasn't fixed in this update

[arctic turtle]

Ya that is too much it should be a set number not a % or at least not that much

Magma invoker might be a play

[ashen mango]

I'd like to know the level and TPI of my ranger @worn tree

[lime cloak]

Would be nice if that was displayed… also a cool way to see the true “overall player deck strength” 😁

[shut yacht]

So mud absolutely is horrible, somehow lost to the bots with the 3 mud exhalted

[worldly token]

we do not have enough players 🙁 would like to play some ascendant matches from time to time, but noone seems to play at all

[wild kiln]

@worn tree Are the extra advantages gained by Illuvials level 60 and above noticeable? In other words, are they currently reflected statistically in the arena?
the reason I'm asking is because there doesn't seem to be much difference in the Illuvial UIs on Illuvidex

Depending on your response, I'll replace my deck with unleveled illuvials... so I won't waste my time trying to level it from 60 to 61

[worn tree]

You mean if a level 61 illuvial has more visible stats that the same illuvial at lvl 60?

It should be the case, yes

[wild kiln]

60 level grilla -- 64 level grilla

60 lvl grilla - 2969 hp - 157 om - 243 att dam
64 lvl grilla - 3010 hp - 159 om - 246 att dam

so, is the advantage gained at level 64 only 1.38% in terms of HP? I seem to remember the previously announced percentages for this being different, which is why I wanted to ask

[ashen mango]

I like the new level up animation at the end

[worn tree]

You are right, I will take a look

[ashen mango]

It would be nice to have the illuvials getting xp occupy the entire screen, the rest of the screen isn't that useful

Instead of having an opaque backgound like on the left it could be translucid like on the right

Like in the OW

[arctic turtle]

Looks like level 20 based off of omega power

[ashen mango]

That's strange, it should be higher I think

With my collection it should be at least lvl 40

And the TPI should add even more

[viral marsh]

4 collection lvl60 in game, bots have lvl9 units xD

[ebon aspen]

Empath still broken

[worn tree]

Yes, always

[ebon aspen]

T5S3 2 Invoker Dualepth with 300 Omega cant delete t3S2 Quinx with 75Resist lol

[safe valve]

if that's correct calc... then my ranger was level 4 in last match

[safe valve]

yea

likely still going to be meta

the nerf was not really a nerf with that -1% 😄

[ebon aspen]

even if I kill Quinx somehow then I wouldnt be able to kill Elk gg

[hot pond]

The thing with max threshold of 5 you can just add those on top of your main strategy as a nice side effect instead of dedicating your strategy towards one thing as it was before. This applies to more than just empath if you also get synergy chips in addition

[ebon aspen]

so then i need 400 Omega 3 Invoker T3s3 to kill 1 Quinx 😉

and that was with 5 Psion 5 Bulwarks and 2 EMpth

[viral marsh]

all fine with exp boost? i have 800%. and play against 3 strong deck. win most of fights.
so if i was without exp boost it's mean i got 6k exp?

[ebon aspen]

to start it should be -20%

[arctic turtle]

I think ranger level is based on level only not tpi and if it follows the same level boost as illuvials (1% per level). I think that is how it is. But maybe it is different. If it is different then they should add a level indication. I think we need a little more indication on it. I do know that if you don't own an illuvial it counts as a level 1 and affect your ranger level there including T0. That is what hurt my level last patch with not owning 2 of every T0 S3 but now it is only first slot now. I think we need more input on how it works

[wild kiln]

it doesn't look good

It should have been at least between 80k-100k

As you said, the decks were strong in the previous game

[viral marsh]

and bot's with units lvl9-12 this game.
seems scaling still work...strange

[worn tree]

It should be 100% higher. Seems like web is still with old bonus stats format. We will update it

[viral marsh]

on illuvidex it's show empty all lines with tier-0

but i have full collection. probably that made a problem with scaling?

[ashen mango]

Could you build a collection leaderboard? @worn tree
Since you're doing averages for bots and rangers might as well have a clear leaderboard for it

Initially I upvoted the illuvial collection tree proposal specifically for the LB, even without valuable rewards associated to it it's still a status reward to those who built their collections

[viral marsh]

3 players in lobby. all with good collection.
but bots lvl 7-11.
we go in right direction?

[edgy bough]

That’s heavy

[ebon aspen]

so much better with old augments

[sturdy robin]

I just don't know why it needs to change so much. 😄

[mellow bolt]

Any announcement on the content creator competition??

[mighty tulip]

Wtf, I buy the 90 day 200% boost and now there's a 600% available two days later 🤦‍♂️

[mellow bolt]

How much is the 600

[mighty tulip]

4k fuel

[mellow bolt]

Usd$ ???

[regal hound]

They stack ser they are supposed to stack ser

[mighty tulip]

Awesome that's exactly what I was hoping for. I only bought my 90 200% two days ago. I was a little worried 😅

[safe valve]

Looks Like they don't stack and are actually still 200%/600% and not +200%/+600%
A 5x Looks reasonable getting 10k Base exp with that lobby

[viral marsh]

so. exp not stack. ranger/bot's scaling not work.
what about this patch?

[safe valve]

Can you Double Check if exp boosts work properly? @worn tree

[regal hound]

Sure about this? I think I was in this lobby to test and I own only 60% of one comp on that account. 15/205 doesnt do well for the average lobby level, I might not have been the only one

[viral marsh]

but when people with low collection in game - bots become higher lvl

[regal hound]

If I own 15 out of 205 illuvials at average level 30, barely moves the needle no?

Not sure about the nitty gritty, Nil did the design here

[viral marsh]

i don't know formula of bot's scaling/exp gain.
so i can tell about it by my feeling, what i see.
in game on screen higher 3 real players. 2/3 have much lvl50-60 units in deck(strongest collection in game).
and bots have lvl 9-11.
at other game, where was 2-3 players with lvl30 overage collection, probably lower - bots have 14-16 lvls.
but still - before patch bots was stronger.
so - question - did scaling work or not?

[sturdy robin]

Will there be a patch without a new meta? 🙂

[unkempt pendant]

GG

[outer surge]

Given my last video I want to preface this with by saying that I ask this with the upmost respect. But @worn tree , what is stopping you from letting people gain XP on losses?
With it being left on winners only there is no chance for newer players to effectively level their Illuvials especially since we don't have the player base to warrant matchmaking.

[safe valve]

haven't watched your last vid, but i feel getting exp per illuvial you eliminated as you mentioned in an older vid... and maybe some bonus if you win a round sounds pretty reasonable

[outer surge]

That's what is frustrating me. I already have a rough time with a Mid-Tier collection to the point where I've cancelled game streams because I can't keep a positive vibe. If I'm having a rough time, then I have no idea how someone brand new gets into the game and enjoys it right now.
Like what is the design idea from the shoes of a new player because I genuinely feel like there just isn't one right now.

This is how I see it right now:
Majority: New player joins Illuvium but doesn't want to spend until they understand the game:

• Gets destroyed in every single game barely ever winning around.
• Never gets to level up an Illuvial
• Will forever be a punching bag that is likely weaker than a bot.
• Calls it a Pay To Win Scam and leaves.

Minority: New player joins Illuvium and picks up a few cheap Illuvials to start

• Gets destroyed in every single game barely ever winning around.
• Levels up Illuvials painfully slow because you only gain XP on victories even if you took out some of your opponent's Illuvials.
• Calls it a Pay To Win Scam and leaves.

Unicorn: New player joins Illuvium and buys the best of the best.

• Has one monitor on "the hub" and one on the game.
• Is basically a bot on hard mode but wins/places high without thinking.
• Has nothing to play for once they've made it high on the LB.

Am I crazy for thinking that there is a major problem here?
I know onboarding may not be the focus right now. But it's not even a part of the game AT ALL as it currently stands.

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[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/this-gif-4354544

[viral marsh]

untill it's no reason of grinding exp, all of this dothen matter.
i remember how i play 12-16hours every day OW, by farming exp to become stronger in leviathan, coz i think - it will be tournaments, i need stronger deck, and Whity already have lvl60 in team.

and which target for people now? get higher place on free LB?

[frank moon]

Aren't all those problems solved by a large playerbase? We're still aiming for millions if not billions. Just wait for marketing to start

[outer surge]

How do you naturally build a playerbase in the first place if they immediately leave because there is no progression.

[outer surge]

That's a good problem to have... you realize you are a unicorn ya?

[wild kiln]

soon

[viral marsh]

if i know now it will be next IPL for other 200k, i'l keep grind arena 12 hours every day

[outer surge]

100% since you are a pro and you are a legend for it. But I'm referring to everyone else.

[frank moon]

So let's start with that instead of wasting time bashing on leviathan. There are no game devs in this chat. Leviathan players have been promised a lot and were awarded with pennies on every dollar a free2play player got. Not to mention just getting disappointed over and over again. The community had too much influence on the outcome of things and now we are here.

[viral marsh]

but everyone can do it?
made homework - got profit from it.
i come to this game, when i was not professional TFT player.
i come from other genre of game.
but i made target for myself and move to it.

[outer surge]

I'm not even bashing Leviathan. I love it. I just want XP on losses...

[outer surge]

Of course, but if I'm grinding away with Level 1's losing and making no progression. Then why would I stay?

[frank moon]

More players, better matchmaking, problem solved. But yeah I wouldnt mind some xp but it will probably get botted real fast leading to OW players to be disappointed even more. We paid 9$ a run

[viral marsh]

go and buy lvl40 on market and start win every game?
you need just 1 meta team 10-20 illuvials.

[outer surge]

BUYING. SHOULD. NOT. BE. PROGRESSION.

For someone getting into the pro scene. I get it. But how do you get someone to play the game in the first place long before anything competitive is involved?

[viral marsh]

change play time. EU night-morning you will play against 5-7 bots every lobby = ez exp.

[outer surge]

You realize how messed up it is that you'd want to AVOID PLAYING PLAYERS to have the chance at enjoying a game?

[frank moon]

Fun. Play your equals and you will probably have more fun. Xp is irrelevant if you are in the right league

[viral marsh]

it's no way enjoy game at curent state. xD

[outer surge]

That's what I'm saying. There is no way for a casual to enjoy the game right now

[viral marsh]

i tell about other thing.

it's still no balance in game.
but keep casual it, so new people can understand it fast. then play 20-50-100 games and get bored.

[outer surge]

Balance is one thing that I understand being frustrated about. I also believe that "simplifying" the game for the sake on onboarding is completely cope

[worn tree]

Hey Sylen, the main reasoning was to avoid xp farming but entering a game and being pseudo afk

[viral marsh]

watch on this. i'm almost die from 3 revenant.
his jotun-penguin doing 30k dmg.
why it will be fun for me build invoker-steam/anything, if i can put 3 revenant+empath and close eyes to win it?
and his team lvl 40-50. mine 60.

[worn tree]

I also understand and share the concern of xp gain for new starters

[outer surge]

Top players already are pseudo afk and win.

[worn tree]

We will explore enabling it and see how it goes.

[lime cloak]

@worn tree Sylen also made some suggestions to give players a "free starter pack" of Illuvials, these obviusley needs to be "off chain" and account bound... I think this is a great idea, but do you know if its possible to do this, or maybe somthign that could be, as part of the "new setup" with "off chain stuff" that is build for the MMO ?

[worn tree]

Appreciate the suggestion, I read it. However, this is something we won't be doing any time soon.

The team is focused on other priorities and arena is on maintenance mode. What we can do is enable lesser XP for round losers

[west musk]

healthy chat love to see it

[zenith mortar]

Players “Burn” their illuvials to the dao for starter packs?

And in return get….

Idk

A hug

[outer surge]

I'll finalize with this because at the end of the day I understand that major developments are likely not in budget.
To the original players with massive collections:

• I wish that there were more events that could let you benefit more from being early movers.
• You have the right to be angry. But just because something was done one way before, doesn't mean it was the right way.
• New players should not be punished for the design flaws a previous generation of players had to endure.

What I'd love to see:

• I'm thankful that you are considering enabling XP for losses. @worn tree It would help retain newer players.
• I understand developing a starter pack system might not be worth it at this current time. But what I hope would be doable is that all of the Illuvials you get on a fresh account (the level 1s with no stats) be able to level. They'll still get destroyed in ranked and tournaments vs the best of the best. But they'd feel progression. At that point, I feel like the game would be set and safe for maintenance mode until whenever Mobile is in the cards. I'd make these Illuvials untradeable if possible, if not, who is going to buy 0 stat Illuvials anyways?

[viral marsh]

someone investigate +800% xp problem?
1st place, won almost every round.
that mean i'l get 5600 exp without boost exp.
but i never get less that 7800-8000exp.

[viral marsh]

perfect balance.
lvl 55-60 team vs lvl40. and i lose round.
what you tell about new player? @outer surge

[ashen mango]

What I understand from the DAO's decisions is that arena is not really the game, it's not meant to onboard players.
They want to onboard players with the MMO and potentially some degens with the R2E, the arena will be an additional use case for those who want PvP.

That's also why we didn't have tournaments for the past 3 months.

[west musk]

i would argur we didn't have tournaments because of migration and new synergy system and promises of tournaments were simple flappy words that often get thrown around. Reality is Illuvium is in transition time and tournaments don't make sense until migration is complete and this shit gets balanced half way decent.

[ashen mango]

I hope you're right, I want tournaments 🙂

[safe valve]

I partially agree.

• With the synergy boni we have currently, a lower deck can very well beat a higher deck.
• Casual mode just got f2p again where everyone can try out the game and if it's fun can buy some illuvials either from dex or open some pack of cards as it is pretty usual for a cardgame.
• That a loss of a match also should get some exp depending on how enemy illuvials eliminated i fully agree.

What i actually see is, that there are currently like 20 top level decks which 50% don't even play now. And to me it feels like it has always been a yapping about casuals or newcomers getting rekt by those 10 people.
Now with enabling a 3x and a 6x exp boost, this problematic you are pointing out becomes massively exaggerated, just give it a 2-3 months time and all of the current casuals will play with their lvl 50-60 illuvials... and then it really becomes a problem for onboarding.

7x exp boost, never saw that before in any game and it is even stackable with the 3x boost... we are literally obliterating our only progression system, and i can't even think how this will turn out with the mmo cause i feel that grind gets obliterated aswell. While i always heard things like "you will have a great advantage with high level illuvials in the mmo... we are basically giving that to everyone, just play 1 month arena casually and you are good to play mmo on easy mode"
While it might have been flawed in terms of money spend that was required to get to a top deck (i spent like 250k fuel + some bounty rewards i claimed in fuel purely for leveling), the time to grind it wasn't flawed at all... it was just a grindy game which is nothing wrong with it.

[ashen mango]

I think that xp had to be devalued because the grind was way too slow which was bad from a UX standpoint, however the 3x/7x xp boost that are supposed to be stackable seem quite odd to me, they make the F2P grind seem completely worthless in comparison.

[safe valve]

don't agree. I think it was pretty good.
We can talk again 10 months when a newcomer asks you what's the best way to level up in the mmo and you have to tell him play a couple arena games 😄

[outer surge]

A level 41 Illuvial is not a new player

[viral marsh]

S3 lvl 40 every time.

[outer surge]

Whenever I'm referring to a new player, I am talking about someone just starting and has level 1 Illuvials learning the game before buying anything

[ashen mango]

I think that's because you're seeing the lvl 1-60 grind as the main adventure, I'm seeing the lvl 60 battles as the main adventure.

Like the speedrunner who got the first lvl 60 gnome mage in WoW classic only 3 days after it got released who as soon as he hit lvl 60 said "I can finally play the game"

[safe valve]

we have to make the lvl 1-60 grind the main adventure cause there won't be nearly enough content in the mmo to make the lvl 60 battles the main adventure.

And talking about arena ... how many lvl 60 games you played last month?

[ashen mango]

My illuvials aren't all lvl 60, in some ways I haven't started the game yet from my viewpoint.
Also I'm mainly here for the money, fun gameplay is an additional bonus especially considering that I derive most of my fun from winning or from tough competition rather than fun gameplay.

[safe valve]

yea... would be nice if an indie studio can build content like blizzard in a quarter of the time 😄
kinda doubt it tho

[safe valve]

money first explains it all tho... guess we can agree to disagree then

[ashen mango]

It's nice if level progression can bring in revenues, but my assumption is that the previous pace of progression was slow to the point where it had negative value on overall revenue due to bad UX. We can generate tons of revenues by having whales buying xp directly to get their 100 TPI illuvials go from lvl 1 to lvl 300 in 1 min.

Besides that them mentioning training gyms, burning for xp transfer, buying xp directly and R2E xp rewards are all hinting towards making xp easier to get.

[safe valve]

can do that if you are a gamerecycler studio. Basically bring a game live, let the whales run their fun, let it slowly die out andd bring next game live in a similar fasion with recycling all the assets... or you set up new servers from time to time with a fresh start like some mobile games do.
But i don't think i have seen a game living long with such instant whale systems.

[safe valve]

training gyms... 😄

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-MuAmuj8fnmk4rMJ8e9

bruning for exp is not on the table and might never come

buying xp directly i never heard of so far in a public statement

[ashen mango]

At this point? I don't understand why.

[safe valve]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ashen mango]

I think I heard it several times already from Kieran.

[safe valve]

yea kieran

thank god he not always get his way

[ashen mango]

The arena, the R2E and potentially other games are the content.

Also all of this is assuming that they are making decisions based on the idea that they want maximum success over the long term but the way I understand it is that they want (or some people making decisions want) to ride a bullrun.

From this perspective, allowing players to buy xp makes a lot of sense.

[safe valve]

trying to ride a bullrun is why we are in the situation we are

can't make any worse business decision than betting on markets 😄

[ashen mango]

Yeah it's a risky bet, it can fail.

[zenith mortar]

got my rhamphyre finally

nice

[mighty tulip]

@safe valve you're afk in a game mate

[safe valve]

just noticed

thanks mate

[zenith mortar]

just finished transferring everything

and getting my xp boost

coming for you

[mighty tulip]

Only round I'm winning then 😅

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-funny-memes-gif-24899028

[shut yacht]

Dang, playing for 5th

[west musk]

first game new patch... feels better

mix of old and new

3/8

time for number 2

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-M4iOAkEAPwAnK

[zenith mortar]

4/8

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/come-in-come-on-in-whos-line-is-it-anyway-gif-7550571

[zenith mortar]

the mini kangroo isnt invulnerable on start anymore?

[safe valve]

yes

[zenith mortar]

yes as in im correct

or its bugged

hahah

NBD

@mighty tulip where are you

[safe valve]

yes you are correct 😄

[mighty tulip]

Getting an unwanted education from @safe valve

https://tenor.com/view/destroying-door-gif-7336940

[safe valve]

already had malura and blazenite in next shop if i lost that round 😄

wp

[mighty tulip]

Lol you weren't losing that round 😅 GG

[zenith mortar]

lol

did i even kill a unit on @viral marsh team

haha

think i got the fake monkey

so thats something

[safe valve]

what is a fake monkey?

[zenith mortar]

mud monkey

the statue

[safe valve]

ah

[zenith mortar]

get outta here @west musk

[ebon aspen]

4/8

[safe valve]

i wonder what happened to synalph... feels the shrimpy is now only a synergy filler

[ebon aspen]

useless

[safe valve]

yea

was one of my fav illuvials on the board

[ebon aspen]

unless 400+ Omega

same

[prisma yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-nuts-kung-fu-training-pain-endurance-gif-7886249

[safe valve]

that looks like atlas trying to get through titanor

[ebon aspen]

nice lobby

[prisma yarrow]

its synalph getting particiation point

[shut yacht]

Sirdexter verminio ate my illuvials like knife through butter

[wild kiln]

yess, ıt deals a lot of damage

gg was a nice lobby

[zenith mortar]

GG bois

[west musk]

wow u got 3rd 😄

gg @viral marsh

rev still good

[viral marsh]

5% nerf. and 1% nerf for empath.
prob should take 1% more from them

[mellow star]

The Illuvials property sheet is incorrect, it shows me this much...

does it work for anyone else?

Does the dev team know about the bug?

[prisma yarrow]

i cant beleive i could not make revenant, the whole game

[shut yacht]

I feel like umbre should boost and hit harder than revenant verminio empath

[wild kiln]

It only uses its tail whip once, but if you're running a corner composition, it could deal 4k–5k damage as it hits every unit
I believe Umbre's total damage output for that fight was over 25k

[west musk]

umbe has been given a timeout from before XD

[outer surge]

I've been trying to use Umbre as a Tank It worked on the last patch when you'd stack 20% HP augments. This patch, haven't quite gotten it to work yet

[ebon aspen]

bird is just nasty

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/bird-deal-with-it-oFI7FttD0iC8V2Iqmy

[safe valve]

works fine for me.
try rebooting client and make sure you have your game updated to the latest patch.

[wild kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/going-to-bed-fail-caleb-labelle-daniel-labelle-midair-lagging-fall-to-the-floor-gif-27075152

abyssal basin.. again ... again... again...

[safe valve]

I know it doesn't help that much... But did you AT least apply a battleboard skin for yourself?

[wild kiln]

Yeah, I transferred one... but there's way too much white light in potato mode and the fps is still dropping :/

gg sylen

[safe valve]

i don't play on potato mode anymore... most players with somewhat strong decks have a skin applied themself. And bots you easely beat, so there the fps drop isn't too bad.
But weird you even get drops in potato mode... haven't had that map yet but before i was arround 60 fps on potato mode... must have gotten worse then.

[wild kiln]

I mean, I only have to switch to potato mode on the Abyssal Basin map... because otherwise, my FPS drops to 5-6

If it weren't for potato mode, I probably wouldn't be able to move at all in Abyssal lol.
I wonder why this wasn't fixed during the update phase... a lot of player were complaining about this

[safe valve]

idk, i would assume the artists didn't have had time yet to fix it. But should have just deactivated the map until it's fixed

[jolly whale]

I'm not certain of how it works, but if a player has abyssal selected or the game selects abyssal as the map you have a chance to have to use the bugged map in each round.

Its pretty frustrating

[wild kiln]

the end-of-match UI showing our Illuvials' stats looks good, but the level UI bug with Lynx is still there
Even though it shows as level 22, it's actually level 52... I'm not sure if the stats are being calculated as level 22 as well 🤷‍♂️

[ebon aspen]

7/8

[shut yacht]

My Pho 3x bloom 3 augments died by verminio with one hit.

[edgy bough]

how have they not fixed it yet in past few patches? crazy

[ebon aspen]

7/8

[prisma yarrow]

i had the adorius

[ebon aspen]

7/9

@prisma yarrow join

[prisma yarrow]

trying to oen it back

5/8

[prisma yarrow]

join what

[ebon aspen]

arena

7/8

[prisma yarrow]

lol

[ebon aspen]

i wonder if my stuff is bugged been 7/8 for 40 min

[prisma yarrow]

quit and join back you are bugged

[ebon aspen]

did it still 7/8

[prisma yarrow]

i though you were trying to get others to rush in

now its a real 7/8

another game will be made while you are bugged

[ebon aspen]

@ty for joining

games seem so muhc fun now with the old augments

[ebon aspen]

gg

[shut yacht]

I just waiting 15 min to play abyssal basin

[outer surge]

Is there any chance that Abyssal Basin can be temporarily disabled or temporarily give it the old Sanctum Mesa Beach Battle Board until the FPS issues on the AB Battle Board is figured out? @worn tree

I definitely empathize for those waiting for a game only to get hit with a nearly unplayable Region.

[west musk]

gonna jump into a few if anyone feelin it too

[prisma yarrow]

the easy farming time is over

[west musk]

GL

1/8

[outer surge]

No longer farming time, it's fighting time!

[west musk]

I missed it

[mellow bolt]

Anyone on?

[jolly whale]

Noob lobby

[prisma yarrow]

where is the pre noob cat. it would be easier for me

[wild kiln]

ggz

[ebon aspen]

why is Ramphire double casting ?

is it a bug?

he lands and cast again

I've seen this so many times and dont underst why

[wild kiln]

could be, does energy charge up more based on the amount of damage taken?? because it cast its ult for a second time right as it was about to dieı 🤔

[ebon aspen]

and keep seeing this over and over again exactly what you have said

[wild kiln]

I used to spend more time in Overworld, and there were always bugs, mostly in Malura / Rhamphyre encounters
for example, even if I won the fight, it would show up as if I lost (I'm talking about OW). There must definitely be a problem with these two Illuvials in Arena as well...

I'm just starting to experience it now, and even stg1 rhamphy can spam its ult. Sometimes it doesn't even deal damage, and other times, like just now, it hits twice

[ebon aspen]

@viral marsh do you know why Ramphire double casts? I keep running into this issue? Just had a game where littery he casts and then cast again

is it because of Hyper ? 🤔

[ebon aspen]

💯 GG

[west musk]

2/8

[mellow bolt]

@west musk 😂 GGs you have been grinding your life away your team is crazy I hope this game goes somewhere so all the hard work in not in vain

[west musk]

No I am lazy

I bought a team many months ago and was renting some

Now I play

[mellow bolt]

I had five bulwark two colossal and two resistant increase arguments

[mellow bolt]

👍

[west musk]

empath and templar still busted

[shut yacht]

How much?

[ebon aspen]

gg

[wild kiln]

gg

[west musk]

plenty XD

[jolly whale]

What does everyone think about the xp boosters?

Personally I purchased the 90 day 2x

Ill probably buy the bigger one at some stage when I have a few less busy days to really put some xp into my collection. Buuuuut

I would kill to be able to buy the big booster for 24hours. I feel like buying it for 7 days is really not very effective for me as I would waste half those days only playing 1-2 games a day. However I would buy a 24 hour one almost everytime I have a free day on the weekend?

I think this is a missed opportunity! What does everyone think?

[edgy bough]

WEN

[mellow bolt]

Bro gg GHamsterHype

My lvl60 malura 27,000 damage… 207 resistance hahah and couldn’t kill half of your team 😭

[noble hinge]

I bought the 200% for 90 days.
I just saw that they now have the 600%.
I am disappointed that there is no way of upgrading our 200% to a 600%.

[mellow bolt]

Can you stack ?

[noble hinge]

Don't know, I would want to know before purchasing it.

[jolly whale]

They stack apparently, so you can do both. I'll prolly buy the 600% friday and try play as much as I can over the weekend

[noble hinge]

Interesting, so I would get 800%, that might be worth it. Hmmm....

[jolly whale]

That's hows it's ment to work! Apparently

[mighty tulip]

GG man, yeah those heals be healing 😅

[zenith mist]

Anyone getting heinous frame drops out of nowhere in arena? One match getting over 100fps then 17fps the following match

Only noticed this since the patch before last

But it’s brutal

Hope the devs can patch this issue soon

[jolly whale]

The abyssal basin map has some sort of efficiency problem. It's being worked on.

[mighty tulip]

Damn man that's some firepower right there 😅

[mighty tulip]

yeah it's really bad at times

[zenith mist]

ahh good to know

[regal hound]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BLoafX-take-note-the-studio-banjj-TEPHUoXjs51faAs2ZP

[viral marsh]

have same problem with mah'mu. he throw my units every second.
energy gain to fast

[jolly whale]

Are all the bots level 1 again for anyone else? My ranger too

[jolly whale]

@safe valve You are in game mate

[safe valve]

thanks mate

[prisma yarrow]

is there a way to see the ascendant match history

[west plume]

Dont belive so unless @zenith mortar and or @west musk adds it to their sites

[prisma yarrow]

OMG when you roll 5 time to get a t1 at 5

[prisma yarrow]

OMG there is a first time to everything

[viral marsh]

all need to know about balance in game.
at 1 hand Dualeph with strongest augs. at other hand templar+revenant and scorpion without augs.

[prisma yarrow]

My fludd had twice this augment to counter your Dualeph and I also had 3 time the steal 7 omega power to counter your triple aug on your dualeph

[edgy bough]

This is confirmed? I’ll do the same this weekend

[prisma yarrow]

when you mean they stack, you end up with 600%+200% or 600%*200% or its something else

[viral marsh]

or they not stack

[viral marsh]

so, how they stack. if before i buy this boost for exp i got 8-12k.
and after i buy +600 and +200 i got 50-58k?
where this 800%?

[regal hound]

what patch did you get 8-12k? this patch or the previous?

PS: I dont want to rule out bugs, this stuff has been messy so far

[viral marsh]

i play 1 game this patch. got 9k. then buy 2 boosters

if i got 9k. with +800% i should got 80k. but not 58k

[regal hound]

Yep I would expect 9x on average

But there's a lot of underlying variables which vary your XP game to game

Level of your opponent illuvials, amount of opponent illuvials you fainted, what tiers and stages those illuvials were

[wild kiln]

even when facing the best decks in the game, the maximum XP we could get was 60k

even when there are 5 top decks in the lobby

[viral marsh]

have much questions about it as well.
coz when i play with 1 player in lobby bots have 9-14lvls. and both real players have good average deck.
but when it's 4 players in lobby, 2 with good deck, 2 with lvl 30-40, bots have higher lvl - 19-26. how that possible?
but still. max exp 58k