🎮〕illuvium-arena

[hoary spindle]

GGs Lars Had some good RnG there...

[west plume]

you healed more than i delt in damage,pretty annoying

[hoary spindle]

hahah Sorry man Im big on healing lol

Had to sit up in the chair w you and Dmitri in the lobby. Not that Im amazing or anything... you know what im saying lol

[west plume]

i really enjoy these matches when we have good decks,never know what will hit you

[arctic turtle]

I want to see a steam harbinger illuval that could be awesome

[hoary spindle]

@viral marsh GGs You are freakishly good at this game! One of the best! Its like you control the illuvials on the board lol

[viral marsh]

i just have some lvl60 with stats. after you almost need do nothing.

[hoary spindle]

and it doesn't hurt that you know what you're doing w them. Unbeatable...

atleast w my setup and skill level lol. GGs

[amber ridge]

Evening all, is there any way to see the rounds won and lost in arena round by round info?

[lime cloak]

There are some Info on the Illuvium website under Arena... in the Match History

https://arena.illuvium.io/match-history

[amber ridge]

Thanks!

[muted iris]

4/8

[split delta]

Hi, I have a question about the team planner. Let say i want to have a stage 3 version of a Illuviar, do i have to put all 3 stage in there, or i just put the Stage 3 and the game will offer me the stage 1 of it, so i can build the stage 3 ?

[muted iris]

3/8

[muted iris]

U should be fusion 2 of them to next stage, let say u have stage 1 and wanna go stage 2 so u need 2 more illuvial stage 1 for fusion to stage 2

[split delta]

I know this, this is not my question. In TEAM PLANNER, i put only the stage 3, or i need to put the stage 1 version of the stage 3 i want...

[muted iris]

Better go jump to the game for eazy explain bro

[muted iris]

They will be auto stage 1 for all i guess

Like this right?

[split delta]

OK, i put only Stage 1, so i can build the stage 3 In Game, got it, thanks

[muted iris]

Welcome, come to the game rn hahaha

7/8

[west plume]

GG @carmine obsidian

[safe valve]

If you play ranked arena, the game offers you all units to play.
In the teamplaner-->Ownership, you can select the illuvials you own, so they show up in the shop.

[viral marsh]

did they show up in the shop if not select them in teamplaner?

[safe valve]

i guess it still auto-selects the highest level. But not sure since i select myself mine in the ownership tab months ago.

[viral marsh]

yes. it's auto-selected.
so this teamplaner can confuse new players

[safe valve]

what you think confuses new player in the teaplaner?

[viral marsh]

things he not need think about?) like this question Zerber ask

[safe valve]

😄
we could delete teamplaner completely and questions about similar things will show up

other people, especially new players have illuvials on the same or a higher level which they don't actually wana use in arena.
They don't have all desired illuvials they want to use on max level

i know you got super confused about the teamplaner in early days, even if it is pretty straight forward.
But that doesn't mean we don't need to let people know how it works.

[viral marsh]

need add note on teamplaner: "start use it, only if you have 2 same illuvials, so you can choice which one you need in priority" - something like this

[safe valve]

now you are making it more complicated than it needs to be.

[viral marsh]

but usually - you don't need even touch this teamplaner - no?

how i see that:
New player come>start game>see he have illuvials lvl1, other people have lvl20-40-60.
he go on market>buy all he need at count of 1.
why he need choice them on teamplaner?

[safe valve]

usually they do... exceptions don't

[viral marsh]

you need use it only at the moment you got illuvial with better stats.
but most of time your best illuvial have highest lvl

[west musk]

So many X’s
That’s like a tic tac toe win right there

[viscid otter]

what's the site everyone uses now to check what augments/illuvials are popular?

[viral marsh]

not think current statistic - thing you have to check.
you can win most games with stage 1-2 illuvials

[viscid otter]

I know we had that site before that showed stats (winning comps, popular augments, etc), was more wondering if there was a new one people have been using

[safe valve]

that site i s currently down because of the migration.

[viscid otter]

Ahh, Gotcha, thanks! 🙂

[safe valve]

just saw, illuvivault is still running, can checck out som stuff there

[viral marsh]

check statistic taked from bots and people who don't know which bonding use? xD

[tired plaza]

high vibes rangers... How long do you guys think the Closed Alpha play test will go on for?

[viral marsh]

pick magma at lvl11. but game decide i don't need singe.
got almost Geyser, but find only 2 flare.
sure, all fine with shop.

[zenith bough]

hello. someone forgot to send me the invite link for closed Alpha. just letting the team know...

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/bon-courage-good-luck-salute-kiss-you-can-do-it-gif-16575230

[split delta]

Ya me too 😄 lol

[viscid otter]

Wth spoon, you could have at least made it look like you needed to struggle a bit, lol

[safe valve]

had some lucky rolls, since all my main carries weren't contested 😄

[west plume]

@safe valve good luck

i hope you accidentley sell all your units

[safe valve]

haven't played so heavy contested for a long time

GG

[west plume]

GG

Finaly a win against you

[burnt notch]

Lars, Dr.Spoon | illuvimod Excuse me and good evening everyone ... I don’t know if it’s possible, since there are no rewards in the Arena, at least the border as a gift from the position where one is located what do you think ??? At least one is tempted to play even more!!!

[fierce glacier]

20 min at 7/8 🙁

[viral marsh]

probably bug? my game start after 13-14mins even i'm solo human in this game.

[fierce glacier]

I leaved and started gain. Will close the app then

[fierce glacier]

yes, almost instant after restarting. Thank you

I need to lvl Lura a bit more to fuse 🙂

[mighty tulip]

3/8 after 4 minutes. Come and play guys 💪

Where you at @zenith mortar not played you in ages

https://tenor.com/view/mac-looking-gif-19010566

[zenith mortar]

Playoff football and rams are in playoffs today

Semi finals

[mighty tulip]

All I heard is I'm scared 👀

[split delta]

Anyone can explain me how to use the bonding correctly, or maybe point me to a good guide about it ?

[ivory rune]

https://tenor.com/view/seattle-seahawks-mascot-seattle-seahawks-go-go-team-winner-gif-16591340

[zenith mortar]

Shhh

[potent bloom]

Hello ma'am I want to ask if went release the arena on mobile version

[zenith mortar]

No date

Yet

[viral marsh]

you can find it in game

[prisma yarrow]

I had the same problem, I made myself, I made his with AI, lol it would had take me may be less time not to use AI

[prisma yarrow]

@viral marsh of course you can find it in game, here some instruction to help you understand how I feel about it

[viral marsh]

need explain of everything - feel free to msg me, i'l made personal coaching for you.

[prisma yarrow]

I just need to integrate some rams in my brain, but seriously my screen is too small to be pro players, I will fix that in few months when i will stop travelling

[hot pond]

RAM is quite expensive nowadays

[prisma yarrow]

@viral marsh my heart was pumping

[split delta]

hard learning my first autobattler vs top 10 players when you just started 😄

[safe valve]

Who rekt you? Fox? 😄

Actually imo a unique Chance to learn from those top Players. Observing their strategies grants you a steep learning curve, compared to playing against other Newcomers

[split delta]

Hektor8989 🙂

[viral marsh]

this top players not top players btw.
most of top decks/players not even play now

[split delta]

Ya, but i dont have high lvl's illuviars

[split delta]

Ya, learning from better players/account is the best way to learn, true 🙂

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-cat-angry-grr-cat-grr-gif-6918322288779874499

[scarlet spindle]

You can also get a really good chance to study things if you go in spectator mode. Mousing over and reading all the descriptions and synergies and composites is impossible when you are playing because you don't have much time, but in spectator mode you have no time limit so you can really get into it.

[safe valve]

i would say most top decks are playing 🤔

[viral marsh]

20% it's not most.
and what about players? how much top-20 IPL still around/play?

[scarlet spindle]

I think there is only one $20k deck that gets passed around

[safe valve]

looks more like 80% of top decks are playing.
well most of top20 ipl didn't bother to create a deck and i assume left to other web3 games where they can make some moeny.

[viral marsh]

depend who you count.
Hypebank on parking atm.
as well as some other players if keep in mind 2 levi tournament.

[west musk]

I know one deck that isn't available anymore

[safe valve]

yea idk.
i just checked illuvirank...
out of their top 20 most people are playing

[safe valve]

?

[west musk]

for rent that is 😄

[twin iris]

are u able to play arena?

[safe valve]

yes, i played some games today

[lime cloak]

Yes, Arena is still open, and you can also get XP for Illuvials you own.
#💬〕general message

[shut yacht]

Tankthebank - nice umbre

[supple epoch]

Arena has the stage in more than one way as representing the whole game by showing the graphics that are capable may be Overworld MMO characters could be displayed alongside the arena I know this was discussed before

[ivory rune]

The top players are relentless, and always seem to win with simpler comps 🤔

[safe valve]

simple often working better than sophisticated-complicated... generally in life 😄

[split delta]

Dos the bots appears on the leaderboard?

[safe valve]

No

Not as far as i know

[split delta]

well ok lol

I beat the crap out off of top 10, i was there is no way i can do this, whit my experience of 20 games in my very first autobattler, whit all my little crappy friends, but well, he must had a bad day i guess 😄

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/brooklynninenine-brooklyn-nine-99-heist-KxiRwO7tqXCTDVKobo

the shop rng can really make your day or wreck you 😄

[viral marsh]

?

[safe valve]

interesting, didn't know that.

[mighty tulip]

Bots earn a rank though right? Sure I've seen bots with different ranks

[split delta]

OMG, good luck to me lol

you in my game

[viral marsh]

all bots below 1000

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/go-team-you-can-do-it-yoJC2K6rCzwNY2EngA

[viral marsh]

luck not help you. accept it

[mighty tulip]

I do just assume anyone playing with no ownership is a bot tbh 😅

[viral marsh]

it's not easy beat player with 1.14 winrate

[viral marsh]

i see much new names(not bot) after OW close this days, with lvl1 illuvials.
and i see some people start buy something - DyadyaSanya as example.

[mighty tulip]

Good it's great that people are getting into gauntlet. You probably don't need to spend too much to make decent progress on the leaderboard. Just keep forcing one comp and top 3. That's not too difficult tbh

[viral marsh]

ye, untill 1st tournament happend, when they realise - it's impossible to win )

[split delta]

lol good exp atleast 🙂

[safe valve]

GG 🙂

[split delta]

well, nothing i can really do against all thoses high lvl's 🙂 So stressed, i was all over the place.

[safe valve]

In an average game, i would start slowrolling on lvl 8 instead of pushing lvl 10.
You might have been able to get jotun/sear for behemoths, the big mahmoth and stuff.
Stage3 illuvials give you quite some powerspike

[mighty tulip]

Not impossible, you just have to have better illuvials than the other 7 players in your lobby 😁

[viral marsh]

depend of seeding in semi-finals.
ofc low decks can get into finals. if all big will be in other grp.
but i can tell you 6 names right now, only if high money not come to us and buy all this decks.

[split delta]

ya, but my illuvials, are not lvled, played for about 8/9 days, didnt have the time to lvl them

maybee 10 days now

[safe valve]

yea i saw that 😄
but i assume you making great progress at least on those levels playing 2-4 games a day

[split delta]

this is what i have to work whit

[viral marsh]

have play 500 games to made 10-20 illuvials lvl60.
so. only half-1 year and you got it.

[split delta]

and they are pretty basic, nothing really high tpi, maybe 10 of them are over 80

But I'm learning and lvling them at the same time. So that's good 🙂

[prisma yarrow]

at this point, would it even be possible for you to win a tournament

[split delta]

lol not really, just to be in one, would be a miracle lol

[viral marsh]

probably yes. probably not. who knows

[split delta]

But i dont care, I am having fun

[prisma yarrow]

so at least you are not discourage for yourself

[split delta]

I am at an age, where you learned to have fun, not trying to win, if it's happens it's a bonus really 😉

[viral marsh]

win your opponent it's fun.
contest him hard, so he start cry it's fun.
play new regions/synergy's/composite it's fun.

but play same meta/comp 400+ games not fun

[split delta]

And it's my very first autobattler, i have a lot to learn, so many diff things

dont hurt me Tank 😄

I'm in your game

[viral marsh]

what you feel by building jotun/mah'mu and no one bot pick this units @safe valve ? or you not think about it?

[safe valve]

nah, i don't think while playing the game

[viral marsh]

probably need made suggestion to change bots units they pick?
free mud, and this 2 units never being picked by them

[west musk]

guess it's time to play some arena again

4/8

[jolly whale]

Going to be coming for you top 10 guys once the leaderboard resets! 🙃

[prisma yarrow]

is that meta, it surly made me win my last game

[ivory rune]

isnt it closed now?

[mighty tulip]

Yeah I was talking more generally not specific to rn.

[ivory rune]

I do hope the break isnt like half the year....

[west musk]

gauntlet? it's going

[bronze spire]

very good in leviathon yea

[west musk]

4/8

[west musk]

2/8

[prisma yarrow]

6/8

[west musk]

3/8

@zenith mortar 7/8 u already in? 😜

https://tenor.com/view/never-ending-love-rrr-ram-charan-ramaraju-bye-gif-17548806974558453426

[zenith mortar]

i can be

did you start

[west musk]

the boat sailed /:

[zenith mortar]

i have 3 cursor windows open

[west musk]

sounds like a lot of work

[zenith mortar]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/wink-clin-doeil-clin-oeil-mister-right-sam-rockwell-gif-21385798

im gonna need to open a 4th to keep working on the rental platform

zkevm is getting close

[west musk]

ikr... i been checking explorer.immutable dot com

[zenith bough]

Isn’t everything loosing to rouges? Felt like that when playing you last time

[twilit storm]

@zenith mortar dammn...just can t get enuff...capped the ULTRA limit for Cursor, noway..I am done

[zenith mortar]

I told you it’s a slot machine

[zenith mortar]

just got beat by nil in the new ascendant

i told him ship it

so i can woop on @west plume

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/elvira-georgia-dex-wi8Ez1mwRcKGI

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/grinch-audacity-gif-7405621

[viral marsh]

i just need lvl-up my rogues.
depend how strong you will be contested/which build play your opponents/which drone both of you got etc

[light garnet]

Ship ittttt!!
I miss ascendant. Much more pleasant to lose to 1 person, compared to 7

[worn tree]

https://tenor.com/view/shadikulhossan-gif-22786261

[worn tree]

hahahaha and its much faster, so the loss feels more "temporary" 😄

[safe valve]

except you always loose xD

[worn tree]

Permaloss is savage hahahaha

[safe valve]

idk... @zenith mortar is it?

[west quartz]

@worn tree ship itttt

enough with the madness

give us ascendant back

[worn tree]

https://tenor.com/view/its-coming-back-its-coming-yes-clapping-al-green-gif-15963748

[west quartz]

btw @worn tree playing the MMO gave me an idea : ascendant/gauntlet where you controle your ranger on the board.
Probably very hard to make it happen as if i recall correctly aaron said the outcome of a fight is computed before the round and then the fight is just displayed, but it would be super cool and would reduce RNG and give us agency

so we could use the ranger to bait enemy carry, or go for the backline carry, or hold our ranger omega and not waste it on a unit about to die etc

[worn tree]

Yeah it would be cool, but as you said it is technically insanely difficult, so much that creating a new game would most likely be more efficient.

I think that Deathmatch mode has a better shot at enabling in-fight agency for players. Deathmatch MVP won't have in-fight control, but we could release a mode after that, that does enable this.

[light garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/conan-o-brien-window-stalker-creepy-let-me-in-gif-16778394

👀

put your 💸 where your 👄 is

[mighty tulip]

@worn tree I wondered if you’ve considered an additional incentive layer in-client for Arena.

Something like a lightweight recognition layer that makes top performance visibly prestigious within the client. The “reward” is social proof: top players are surfaced in high-traffic UI (home screen, pre-game lobby list, match loading screens, leaderboards), so everyone sees who the top performers or leaders are every time they log in or queue up.

That visibility creates aspiration, rivalry, and identity-driven motivation. Competitive retention is driven by status and recognition just as much as monetary rewards. Once built, this becomes an always-on motivation engine that aids retention.

Currently, the leaderboard exists but is tucked away in its own menu and largely optional. Because it isn’t surfaced during core flows, its motivational impact is very limited. Here's a concept image of where my mind is at with this idea. Would love to know your thoughts

[zenith bough]

can't remember drones, just remember you had 4 revenants, I had 4 behemots, and you penguin (with rev chip) deleted my sear (which had 8K life) within 5 seconds

[ashen mango]

Sick skins

[mighty tulip]

Haha AI jank but yeah 😅

[ashen mango]

Not sure why you call it jank, it's genuinely cool

[viral marsh]

ye. i tell about for long time, as well as other people - penguin broken. should rework him/vanguard. or put him in tier-5.
but you still can win it, if know how. not every time work.
but 4 behemoth not help you>it's need time to stack, and when fight end in 10-15 sec = no way.

[west plume]

This is epic👀

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/iceage-possum-peaceout-gif-2272177960667492692

[worn tree]

This is a great idea and it would definitely help foster both community engagement and competitive recognition.

I also agree that the current leaderboard feels quite distant. As you know, resources are limited and highly optimized, but features like this can have a meaningful impact. If we can find a cost effective way to implement it, it would certainly be worth pursuing. We might also be able to align your idea with the new rewards structure we are working on, whatever form that ultimately takes. Overall, highlighting top performing players is a strong incentive for recognition and for building a more engaged community.

Say:

1 spot for highest rated.
1 spot for most games.
1 spot for strongest collection.
etc.

Great one!

[viral marsh]

this game.
in my opinion - have put behemoth/true sign/dmg buff on scoriox.
wrong suit amp - you already have stun on ranger, it's just made your ranger super slow.
some of your red augs, i would pick other for this comp.
fern need more things vs rogs.

[ashen mango]

The 3 top of each category could cycle every day

Monday: Top 3 rating
Tuesday: Top 3 best average (50 games min)
Wednesday: Top 3 most games
etc

Or cycle every time we log in

[worn tree]

Yeah, or even each time you go back to main menu, after each game it rotates

[mighty tulip]

Another extension of this idea could be Discord account linking. Arena performance could surface directly as visible roles in here (e.g. Top 10, #1 This Week), and potentially unlock a private channel for top players where Gauntlet-specific leaks and discussions take place. This would extend in-client recognition into the community layer and reinforce Arena identity beyond the game itself.

The broader point I’m trying to make is that rewards don’t have to be purely monetary to be effective. Social rewards — visibility, status, recognition, and identity — are often just as powerful, especially in competitive environments. When players feel seen and distinguished, it creates motivation that’s durable, low-cost, and doesn’t distort the economy. This kind of recognition layer turns performance into reputation, and reputation into retention 💪.

[zenith bough]

yeah, it was that. Had the scoriox buffed with behemoths in previous rounds though it didn't work either. Didn't feel like there was anything to do, but thanks for the insight 🙂

[viral marsh]

phorus got spined with malura/dust debuff>no way to hit when you stay in corner.
Scoriox have better chances hit

[dark scaffold]

we totatly not playing Ascendant in voice channle right now with Rich

[mighty tulip]

GG @outer surge nice back and forth then at the end 💪

[supple epoch]

Any one els get that nvida bug !?

Update was cuting fps and watts back

[outer surge]

GG! Yes that was a great battle 😄

[zenith mortar]

Ask him who went out on top

[west musk]

4/8

https://tenor.com/view/rumble-wwf-fight-michael-buffer-announcement-gif-3282248037435857114

[safe valve]

Pictures or it didn't happen 🙃

[west musk]

3/8

[hot pond]

Initial „ascendant“ without the ascension token stuff was the best experience for me. Either way I am super stoked to have 1v1 back very soon

[obtuse summit]

ME ASWELL

@zenith mortar let us in 😄

[west plume]

Looked like i had a chance there for amin

[west musk]

The monkier was spicy

[shut yacht]

Don’t think I’ve ever played arena against @west plume , you’re 11th? I’m 27th? I feel like I’ve played against most top 50 now. Likely will feel like playing Spoon or Dimitri…massive deck envy

[mighty tulip]

Nah @west plume is mid. He just plays when it's quiet to get full bot lobbies and farm elo

https://tenor.com/view/shots-fired-eastbound-and-down-kenny-rogers-gif-15437616

[west plume]

Wow

@zenith mortar is Ghamster in the closed Alpha?

[west plume]

Pretty sure i have played against you.

[mighty tulip]

You can find me in gauntlet anytime 😉

[ivory rune]

has anyone else noticed that loading up on good secondary synergies is not a reliable way to win? and that level and TPI actually make more of a difference? Positioning comes in even less importance.... I hope the ARENA team is never disbanded totally and keeps making micro improvements and updates to game balance

[shut yacht]

I’m about to not get 4th

[shut yacht]

This has been my same issue since it all became leviathan. Casual play has it better balanced

[split delta]

Doh, does something got reseted, i have to redo the 5 placements matches

oh I c, they reset the leaderboard, don't mind me then lol

[ivory rune]

I miss Ascendent

I hope it comes back

It would cost the IP not really that much to bring it back as a whole other game mode .... make the game seem more complete if it was in there

[split delta]

IMHO, the $ is what can makes you win more then anything else, but that's just my opinion. Very high p2w game, but still very fun to play.

[ivory rune]

it wont always be that way after the game develops more

It will settle out when more Illuvials from the fabled eventual Set 2 make it into Arena

it will lead to a more balanced game when there is more options to roll for each round, and more various choices for a team comp the player in an 8 man lobby has....

I will get my shit together guys and drop a chunk of $ into ILV and get it staked and then my voice will get louder

[mighty tulip]

One of the biggest issues we have right now is unbalanced lobbies. The pool of players isn't large enough to accommodate skill gaps and collection quality in gauntlet.

1v1 ascendant solves this in an instant. F2P players can battle it out in the lower ranks without getting stomped and those with ownership will match with others of similar skill/power.

Ascendant is the way

[ivory rune]

I have ideas, and I believe I can help bring revanue to the IP in short, medium, and long terms.... I will stick with it until I am in the team an then can help

[ivory rune]

I always support anyone who says they also want to see Ascendent return

I swear.... perhaps we need to start making Illuvium themed AI memes with Illuvials begging the Devs to bring back Ascendent mode....

you know Keiran wants to.... He is really tempted to just throw it back in

[ivory rune]

this feels like it requires a Mandalorian Meme responce

[mighty tulip]

Imagine if ascendant had been streamed recently in here. Wouldn't that have been something special 😉

[ivory rune]

maybe like a Doka with a Mandalorian Helmet, looking with a tearful eye into the sunset with the them of Ascendent going down with the sunset....

all the talkin sssssccchhhmaaaaak would be settled in the Ascendent Arena with all sorts of jeering and betting and shouts and queing up for being next to sssshmash out the new challenger or the Reigning champion....

[fallen vortex]

Do you find concurrent agents works well?

[ebon aspen]

5/8 come get some boys

[prisma yarrow]

i tried to be there

[prisma yarrow]

19k exp in one game

[west musk]

2/8

https://tenor.com/view/sad-smiling-hang-loose-gif-3182775790847144846

[west musk]

4/8

[zenith mortar]

do you guys have ascendent yet

i wanna 1v1

[prisma yarrow]

where do we get that

[zenith mortar]

i heard soon

[mighty tulip]

I can't wait to get stuck in. I've got a feeling ascendant is going to be the most popular mode once it's polished

[zenith mortar]

i dont know if you even really call ascendent anymore cause its diff considering the rules and such

its basically 1v1 gauntlet with adjusted rules

but very enjoyable for me not having to worry about team builders

[hot pond]

So it is with the rng shop still or you bring your deck ?

[mighty tulip]

How do you avoid counter picking or your opponent buying your key illuvials to block S3s I wonder. Hide benches maybe so you only see what your opponent chooses to play

[jolly whale]

So you don't have to build a deck anymore?

Can you still pick anything you want!

Deets please 🙏

[zenith mortar]

Me and @dark scaffold will play a game after my next meeting maybe in voice

[hot pond]

@native mauve Did the match start for you?

[native mauve]

nobe got kicked out said invalid email or something

[hot pond]

Yea same

[native mauve]

yeah weird first time thats happened today

[hot pond]

Well I wanted to do my first match of the day

[native mauve]

haha hopefully it works now)

[hot pond]

invalid player details found for player ID

[mental stone]

Same here

[hot pond]

Must have something to do with LB reset or migration I assume

[jolly whale]

Same

[fresh pilot]

same sever error

[jolly whale]

That was a pretty epic lobby too lol

[hot pond]

I was just getting ready to fetch my revenant chip in the first match 😂😂

[native mauve]

@dark scaffold can we get this looked in to? Some server issues for arena

[dark scaffold]

can you relog, lets see if it helps

[native mauve]

sure, thing it was for everyone but lets try

[jolly whale]

I relogged already

[native mauve]

yeah and game started only then we got kicked out after

[dark scaffold]

they maybe some weird issues cuz some deployments happening in the background

did you guys manage to connect now?

[jolly whale]

7/8 join us @dark scaffold

😝

Popped

[native mauve]

so for some reason it worked this time without @hot pond

[hot pond]

Must be the reason xD

I am still getting the same error 🙁

[dark scaffold]

@hot pond DM me, top secret stuff (if I dm first, its a scam)

[hot pond]

Its working now for whatever reason lol

[dark scaffold]

top top secret stuff tho

not about the issue you had 😛

[jolly whale]

second time tonight @dark scaffold

[mental stone]

Server error again

[jolly whale]

and again

[mental stone]

Yes

I give up for now

[dark scaffold]

checking with devs, but most likely just miogration stuff

[primal flax]

so, we have the 1v1 back soon?

[jolly whale]

seems like it will be pretty soon

[hot pond]

Maybe turn on survival too while we’re at it 👌

[dark scaffold]

ok, there were issues xD devs deploying some fixes 🙏

[jolly whale]

Many thanks to the devs! Hasnt happened for 4 games now

[dark scaffold]

fixes not out yet, so it may happen any time 🥶

do not move, do not sneeze to not trigger the bug 🤫

[jolly whale]

Eeek preasure

[hot pond]

So I think the error occurs if there’s at least a player who hasn’t relogged into the game with passport.
I mean not restarting the game client but really logging out from the game to log back in with passport

[limber stratus]

Hey everyone, I played Arena mode a while back and discovered that now we have to buy Illusviuns to compete Do you know what the average price is to be able to compete?

[viral marsh]

depend compete for what and where.
to compete on LB you can buy 1 deck and spam it. not even need lvl60/stats now.
to compete on tournaments need to have much more things.

[prisma yarrow]

why was he sleeping when I needed him vs @safe valve

[prisma yarrow]

I would use the illuvidex and the filter to get a good idea by myself and assume that there are players with almost perfect stat almost max lvl on probably half the collection or more. but I don't think we can buy anything until the transition is done

[safe valve]

GG was fun 🙂

[limber stratus]

thanks

[light garnet]

Anyone know if Xp is still off during migration? Or are we able to level atm 👀

[viral marsh]

it was on all time

[prisma yarrow]

@viral marsh sad over 25 roll to try to get juton

[viral marsh]

he not help you. 🙁

[prisma yarrow]

you are right, I needed the rypliance

lol

[viral marsh]

you need other augs/7rogs and this as well not help you i think

[light garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-delonge-blink182-wtf-meme-what-the-heck-first-date-gif-25383351

I could have swore someone said the xp paused during migration... I have been waiting until after to do some Gauntlet

Thanks Fox

[viral marsh]

they fix it like in 2 or 3 hours, and tell about that in this channel

[light garnet]

At least I've had some MMO-Lite to be keeping me busy

[safe valve]

against that line up, probably nothing helps 😄

[viral marsh]

1 thing can help. but noone play it in rogs

[safe valve]

highly doubt...
if you wouldn't have adorious maybe, but since you have that aswell i think it's pretty much exodia

[west plume]

@shut yacht and we meet🫡

[prisma yarrow]

OMG when you can't even make a krunk in a game or one t1s3 been

[light garnet]

GG @west plume

https://tenor.com/view/yuck-gross-gif-23415329

[west plume]

it was a though one

[shut yacht]

Gg lars, I’ll remember playing you now. As expected, you go undefeated

[west plume]

GG mate,dont look at my last three matches😆

[shut yacht]

Gg, I need to level up. Spent time/$ on purity before overworld closed. Fused a lot of my XP away on mostly bad gambles. Who doesn’t want to try for a 100 ramphyre and get a 64.

Or maybe I just buy patates deck?

[prisma yarrow]

@hollow veldt I roll my Ophisto a second too late

that was a crasy fight

[hollow veldt]

ouf! was a close one 💯

[scarlet spindle]

Lol what is this crap. Dr Spoon. then Dr Spoon ghost.. then Dr Spoon..

Get a lobby with 5 real people in it and face the master of doom over and over

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/superman-kick-gif-12899075

Feels like this

Just three times

[safe valve]

We really fought very often against each other 🤔

And then you got 3rd with junior getting out in the Same round

[scarlet spindle]

Really though, it makes me try so much harder to eek out any extra position advantage or anything I might try and grab onto.

I might be a bug on the windhield but I can still make a mess.

[prisma yarrow]

@hollow veldt i am anoyed rolled over 30 time not getting shit

I probably had the fastest Slashin I ever had at round 6, then ......

[ashen mango]

Slashin round 6? 👀

[prisma yarrow]

round 29 could not finish the slashin, I lost by one hit,

[ebon aspen]

2/8 come get some boys

[jolly whale]

5/8 come git it!

[obtuse summit]

@umbral oracle Do a WOW like 2v2 and 3v3 Arena with rating and ILV reward. More skills but all have a illuvial with them and higher rank unlock stage arena and bigger rewards. Dynamic reward system. Start rating 100 with stage 1 tier 1 and when rating 150 you enter another range where you can use same tier och maby tier 3 or lvl up the tier 1 to stage 2 and so on. Since we have many classes and diffrent skillset we could make this awesome. Have FLUDD in the corner of arena with constans rain with tjunami empath weapon let my friend go bulward and psion to DPS and take hits 😉

[umbral oracle]

@outer surge and still

[west musk]

2/8 😏

[shut yacht]

The issue I have with arena as it is, we know who is going to win before the match starts with 95% certainty based on illuvial levels and TPI of cards. I understand the allure of getting better cards and levels and compensating it for a long term value of cards, but the game loses it’s competitive nature

[west musk]

The problem isn't in the system... it's in the lack of playerbase

Clash Royale has a similar system for their cards. You start with low level cards and gain XP, level up, increase rank.

It works better there because there are hundreds of thousands of players at your average card level and things feel worthwhile as you strive to progress higher.

Here, we have few players and so low level decks are playing next to high level decks because the playerbase is low

We don't need to change the system... we need players

[west plume]

are you going to play the mmo after this Ranked match?

[west musk]

cannot... gotta head out after this match /:

[west plume]

thats a shame

[tawny hawk]

Can someone advise how to determine strong Illuvial to level up? I thought that Purity Index should help, but I see Headi with index 49 and total stats power is 18, than there is Blotto with purity 79 and total power is only 19. How can this be?

[scarlet spindle]

That is a tank line (bulwark) so health and resists are your main stat, then attack speed. So those stats will be weighted more heavily in the TPI estimation.

If you have perfect move speed and omega power then those wont be high TPI for that unit even if they are 4 or 5 points each

[tawny hawk]

Aah, make sense, thanks!

[scarlet spindle]

so for psions you want omega power, for fighters or rogues is attack speed attack damage. The TPI is more of aguidline to guess how good they would be at their job.

[safe valve]

congrats @viral marsh with your griefings you fd us both 😂

[viral marsh]

you tell me about griefing, mr - "i get everything i need in every roll"?

[light garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/lucky-luck-boy-gif-5210632938185966696

[safe valve]

😄

if you really think that, you would save the mp and don't grief every game since it would not make sense if i get everything i need anyways

[viral marsh]

i got WF as composit. for next 5-7 rounds shop give me 0 fern

i play to win. you play mah'mu and jotun every game coz bots not pick this units.
and tell something about contest, when you never been contested?
and i have play stage-2 units every game? xD

[safe valve]

lol

you probably don't find anyone playing currently playing as many different combs as i do, yourself included

[viral marsh]

it's why 4 of 6 games i meet you you build behemoth/fern/snake? and call this different builds?)

[hot pond]

The master of griefing 😂

[viral marsh]

unlucky. but in this game/meta (when stage-3 unit give you win) you can't win sometimes, especially on 1-1 lobby if not contest units.

[shut yacht]

I agree, and I’m scrambling to catch up in leveling.
New players won’t join if they are out decked. To build the base you need a leveling system that encourages new play.
Casual should have ranks / turbo games for mobile / ranked games with muted card value / full leviathan for the invested

[viral marsh]

freaking muds. with 40-50lvls, without full stats kill x2 price deck with almost perfect stats/lvl60. coz they thief more dmg compare to ranked. when monkier doing x3 of scoriox dmg it's not normal, when grilla 1shot units.
Slashin who got x2 better vanguard in case of % dmg.
Umbre/Mah'mu/Rhamphyre who cast every second in case earn more MP in levi.
Adorius who heal to full hp even without augs.
Blazenite who reduce AS for 60%+ with 75% uptime.
But who care to nerf them, or balance levi.

and if you hit any of this units, whith synergys around him - game become x2 different that with stage 2 any copy of them.

[viral marsh]

so, i spend half year/year to lvl up my team, and you ask for turbo games to made same in 1 week-month>?

[hot pond]

Hard to judge really without a real lobby

Right now it feels like a 1v1 where you farm bots for winstreak while needing luck so bots don’t contest your units

[light garnet]

As always, most things are not worth measuring until we have a player base that makes the lobbies/ranked system work

[viral marsh]

real lobby> 2-3 rogs will die coz contest each-other.
1st player build steam/nature/non-contest mud = win.

[light garnet]

There is no sample size rn. it's all irrelevant, and changing things based on this sample size probs ruines more than it fixes long term

[hot pond]

Mud will face same issues as with real lobbies outside of Levi. What did mud do really

And even if a few people just take monkiers which don’t cost much it’s already over for mud team

[viral marsh]

But don't forgot - hype member try play mud, and it's 4 other hype in game, then it's rule - noone touch monkiers.
but if someone else without tag try play this build - everyone have contest it

[hot pond]

I haven’t played mud once since Levi came but I’ve seen this one guy always going for mud. Wasn’t really a big problem to me

Not even contesting him

[viral marsh]

coz he playing in alt-tab this comp? he even put units at same place every game/not reposition them.

[hot pond]

Can’t blame him. I am playing 80% of m games also semi afk watching movies on the side

[tawny dove]

https://tenor.com/view/senuth-senuth-the-master-my-master-senuth-senuth-from-sri-lanka-ultimate-senuth-gif-20022672

[shut yacht]

Needed one more coin gg, Fox

[viral marsh]

sell mah'mu stage-2, buy stage-1+rhamphy?

[shut yacht]

Almost sold axon

Didn’t have time

[viral marsh]

got berserk composit on 11. R-boost have only 3 scorps.
ye all fine with shop

[safe valve]

yea against you is different.
I can't play water cause griefing umbre is easy for you
can't play rogues, cause griefing slashin is easy for you
etc.

I can just play builds with multiple high tier damage which gets too expensive for you to grief.
At least i thought, but last time you literally rebuilt rogues so you can grief jotun and sear and play them so it's not wasted money

[viral marsh]

i don't understand, why you call contest = griefing? when game around stage-3 broken unit - contest=prob win. not - your mistake you not do it.

[tawny dove]

I agree @hot pond and @viral marsh, many comps are easy to make now. Gonna look very different if lobbies were full with good players. Cant compare ranked games atm with how it will probably look in the upcoming tournaments.. If all the good players return that is. If not there is max a handfull of current players that has a chance to win.

[viral marsh]

i never see someone contest in TFT/autoches/HS.
but in this game other rules. whanna win in 1-1 gauntlet - you have to do that.

probably at 1 day we go away from this, and will play again around diff synergys. but now game around stage-3 unit

or you not build Blazenite in rogs, when i play nature corner? @safe valve . then why you tell me something about how i play?

[safe valve]

I play fern always in rogues

pretty unskilled play if you don't if you ask me 😄

[viral marsh]

strange hear it from person who click roll and got units he need, even not thinking while play.
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[gloomy current]

when reset leaderboard?

Every month?

[safe valve]

last thursday of the month usually

[gloomy current]

thanksss

[prisma yarrow]

LOL people talks about comps been too strong and there is me at round 19 not able to finish the first stage 2 I wanted to do in my game, I am so dying here

[uncut comet]

hahaha this guy

i feel really sorry for this guy he sold me games for 50$ which are worth 400-500$ but i cant give mercy in this case

but i can say even if i regret it if someone send me something wrong or did a mistake i always send back i always tried to find a solution but at the start years ago if someone wanted to fuck me i most of the times let it slip and after the years when i saw how people cried about the minimal things , now if someone try to fuck me i fuck him double back

maybe it sounds wrong but i take the time now for this and it feels good

[uncut comet]

damn playing poker drunk is not good idea patience = zero

i hope in the mmo if there is one(or a few things) which are super special to get i would grind the shit out of it

and i know some peope maybe think how dare you , u should just play for the love of the game but for me one way of loving a game is this way

[manic gale]

damn, havnt play for years, kinda miss it, is online poker a still a thing? I thought bots ended this indusrty...

[supple epoch]

beta photo in Arena settings crashing out ??

[ashen mango]

Mate it's not poker chat 😂

[supple epoch]

6/8

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fox-debate-jv-3aGZA6WLI9Jde

[prisma yarrow]

My opinion after a bit over 100 games played on a laptop. I wish the flow of the game would not be cut over and over and over... Just let me place augments even if it won't count for that turn, stop making me drop what ever I pick up when fight start or when I miss click. let me take out all my illuvial if I want... let me pick up an illuvial by clicking on the place/space he is taking on the board let me put an augment on the illuvial by clicking on the space/place and stop making me dropping it if I click between the legs of that illuvial. it create such a bad game play experience when you have to re make move over 20 times a game cause the flow of it get cut.

And why do we have this drone moving all over the place, its just annoying we barley can see the illuvial on the board with a laptop why do we have to have his drone in our face, is that suppose to be a strategy to put your drone over your illuvials so others have a harder time so see what is going on. or putting your drone over your opponent illuvial to make it harder for him to replace them or to re manage his augment. I would just delete that drone If I could...

life bar thickness are to big they should be reduce in a half .... If I win too fast you got to wait, you can't use that time to replace your illuvial or augments but you can buy stuff so the flow of the game is half broken there kind of anoying too. and Last I think is the shop to buy illuvial, it would be nice if we could reduce it on setting let me choose if I want it from 30% of it to 100%, that would give me a bigger board game to see what is really going on.

[west musk]

@west plume close

[west musk]

Nice feedbcks... I like some of the ideas

[west plume]

When Umbre came onboard it was no chance

GG

[west musk]

ggz

[west musk]

1/8

[prisma yarrow]

why was it impossible to get Junto, absolutely nobody else was playing it.... i wonder what would it do to the game if we could choose one illuvial and we could increase the luck by 15% to 50% to received it, just another idea.

[safe valve]

Wasn't able to get kukkaraph 😔
Rolled so Hard for it

[safe valve]

Pitty counter or similar probably better to manipulate rng spikes

[prisma yarrow]

it could be done By giving 3 increase luck augments at the beginning of the game and when you equip it on an illuvial you get more chance to get it in the shop, and every time you get it in the shop, it would consume the augment.

[prisma yarrow]

i was sure of winning that fight then I saw the omega sent nowhere

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/BoxOfficetr-harry-potter-harrypotter-potterhead-oydIov5VxxXcG0mu1P

[prisma yarrow]

i a 4th but at this point only first player was beating me, that is sad

[safe valve]

wild... again i didn't got it for so long... never roll for that freaking kuk again

[prisma yarrow]

i use it at the beginning lol

[safe valve]

Sylen was slowrolling on lvl 9 and i was still sitting AT 6 kuks 😂

[west musk]

6/8

[prisma yarrow]

who would want to increase the power of illuvial from 25% to 40%, in general a whole weaker team can be fully hype vs me, still will destroy it not matter what cause illuvial are stronger, same for the people with stronger team than mine, they will most likely destroy me every game and there is may be 4-5 player that I could may be beat if I would be a better player

[safe valve]

skill helps you a lot.
Last tournaments i played, i got destroyed on a regular basis against way weaker decks than mine.
And yes, i'm not talking about they had some lucky matches and won by luck... literally obliterated me

it's currently a bit strange gameplay since there are bots in lobbies... people tend to have to much time to build up eco without losing too much hp, not get contested too much etc.

[prisma yarrow]

you are right on that but bots should be given bonus maybe according to the average rank than or something like that

[safe valve]

soon

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[prisma yarrow]

lol when I read soon ... my PTSD come back hard

since 2021

[safe valve]

not sure if the average is a good idea tho.
The weakest player likely getting totally destroyed then, even if there are bots in the lobby.

[west musk]

5/8

[fringe burrow]

I have a question: is it still unknown when the arena rewards will be updated and when they will be implemented?

[trim jetty]

Are holos stronger than colored ones? does anyone know about it?

[native mauve]

not yet, right now holos and dark holos make no difference they are just cosmetic....but in the future risk to earn game dark holos are planned to have 50% bonus and holos 25% bonus or something like that @trim jetty

[trim jetty]

thanks for info thats good

[jolly whale]

Has anyone else noticed that your Illuvials never get credited xp for winning the last round of combat in gauntlet? Often in the last round you updrage to stage 3 and then the game ends, but those Illuvials are never in the xp list. @safe valve @west plume @dark scaffold Perhaps a graphical error? Makes it very hard to get xp into the T4/5 Stage 3s

[prisma yarrow]

is shock enchanter that trash, I got 4 stage 3, he got none, and I melted

[trim jetty]

xiphet has high tpi illuvials and high lwls

[west musk]

3/8

rawr

[safe valve]

yea, i'm not sure if it is just a visual bug in the exp screen or if the last round doesn't grant exp at all tho.

[safe valve]

both synergies have a fix amount of dmg they apply. Those kind of things are currently a bit weak since HP are higher now with playing with your own illuvials and the boost applied to stats/lvls

[umbral oracle]

I need to buy tier 0 illuvials. Costing me a lot. I think we need a button to switch to normal illuvials. No chance @viral marsh beats me in that last one. But hey maybe I just need to upgrade my illuvials to the max to compete

[frank moon]

Make t0 illuvial packs, everbody needs them and there is no supply. Win win @umbral oracle

Supply inbalance also begs for it

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/nounish-dao-nouns-goldypix-mpxnrjQKLo0iA32r23

[west musk]

6/8 👀

[west musk]

6/8

https://tenor.com/view/bring-it-gif-26055538

[outer surge]

Been preaching that for months on stream that Tier 0s even though they were the Free To Play Illuvials, were still the rarest in supply outside of Tier 5s!

In theory everyone without good Tier 0's should suffer now right? Either pay a premium to someone selling one on the IlluviDex or do without? I'm not a Web3 or ecosystem guy but I feel like if we just made packs for things that are rare then what is the point of a ecosystem in the first place?

[west musk]

4/8

[frank moon]

imo it all comes down to execution. The prices of T0's today are ridiculous and they were never supposed to be that high: grinding T0 runs was free. Even though the supply was unbalanced, we decided to throw out tournaments where they matter. This resulted in some of us buying them for a lot of money instead of grinding through the pain: T0 runs were the opposite of fun. We can get them through ADR but in it's current form it does not make sense.

With packs or bundles I did not mean pay a boatload to get them. Make achievements, progressions or battle pass unlocks to get those T0's. It really could be anything and I would be fine with copying existing mechanics from another game ( Gods Unchained core set, Hearthstone dust, ...). At this point people without T0 illuvials are almost forced to lose streak during the early rounds of a tournament... they are out of reach.
(I'm not sure if I am totally following on "packs for things that are rare" but don't we see that everywhere in web3?

[outer surge]

It's not a hill I'm willing to die on and if they do add something like that it's fine by me.
Just saying that it felt like this is how the game and universe is meant to be, that this situation was always a possibility. Every time I peak into the Discord, someone is crying about "what about the value of my collection". Moments like these is where it pays off for those players that put the time into the game to collect strong Illuvials because grinding any stage of the Overworld was not fun. Everyone focused on Stage 1 - 3 chasing the higher Tier Illuvials and now we are at a shortage.

I feel like the game was designed for this to happen so I hate the idea of forcing corrections into the system through packs. Defeats the purpose of having an economy in the game at all. Players caused the shortage. Now we gotta play around it. It just hurts really bad right now since ADR is the only way to get new Illuvials, I admit that sucks. I know personally I'd rather be out there catching it myself than tapping my card, hitting the funny button, and praying to the RNG gods.

But I doubt this will be the last time it'll happen either. If Umbre is busted in the Risk2Earn game there's a chance that Umbre could go extinct. My thought of the game design is then that's something we have to live with as players as it's something we caused. Not just wait for the eventual "Umbre Bundle" in the shop to force correct it. Granted it could be a money maker for the game, but it destroys player loyalty.

Is it a true player made economy that has consequences when players don't step up? Allowing those that put the time in to shine? Or will the game intervene with bundles to force correct the marketplace for a quick buck and destroy the need for putting the work in because a bundle will eventually come out?
Either way I just hope there is a full committal to either side so that those that do collect know what to expect.

[shut yacht]

When the bundles start, do we start calling him “quick buck Keiran”. I understand it’s expensive to run this game and the monthly burn is deep. At some point though, you make the correct long term decision to garner the gamer loyalty and launch into main stream. I’m not a programmer or in the gaming industry, but I’ve made good long term decisions for my business that punished me short term and paid off massively. Let’s hope this game gets that stability to make the right choice.

[shut yacht]

And I’m about to get 5th

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/star-wars-M4iOAkEAPwAnK

[shut yacht]

Yup

Game isn’t skill right now, it’s level and cards

And junior picks the same damn team every game

[outer surge]

https://tenor.com/view/if-it-aint-broke-dont-fix-it-ronnie-lee-schitts-creek-leave-it-alone-its-fine-gif-20099041

[safe valve]

i can see why mud is attractive to play, especially with a not super strong deck in general.
Was pretty cheap to aquire and beats almost anything.
If contested tho, it can get ugly pretty quickly as a mudd player

if you struggle to beat it, play ryplance comps so he can't get him 😄

[outer surge]

If anything, knowing exactly what's coming allows me to test things vs. Mud specifically. Some things work, some don't, yes it's very good, but more the reason for me to get practice against it.

Plus, if it's good come tournament season, it means that it's likely going to get contested. So the situation we see in ranked a lot where Junior gets Mud essentially for free will rarely happen in a tournament setting.

That being said, for Junior in particular. Mud might seem like one of their favourites. But they are most definitely NOT a "one trick" 😄

[safe valve]

yea, that's what i do aswell 😄

[safe valve]

yea in tournament lobbies muds were usually a top2 or 8th placement as far as i remember 😄

pretty much the same as 8 water umbre

[safe valve]

ya, he did buy some decent illuvials.
now almost 50m score in illuvirank... for sure some more hidden power in that deck

[ebon aspen]

great games today 🔥

[tawny dove]

GG's Dimitrij

[west musk]

2/8 cowboys

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-it-coy-melancon-ultimate-cowboy-the-time-has-come-finally-gif-26033955

[prisma yarrow]

If you want to make packs for the next batch/wave of illuvial, I am all for it, may be people would buy more cause sells would not be restrain but this wave should stay the way it is for future success story of price increase if the MMO works

[west musk]

2/8

[prisma yarrow]

I made My goal and i will loose

[west musk]

That’s a lot of synergies

Who u playing against?

Spoony?

[prisma yarrow]

i mean i have mistake in this comp but still...

i wanted verdant and ophisto

[west musk]

Ohhhh I see…
Yah… I usually do crazy bird and scorpion in mud

Crazy bird, scorpion, blazenite and chikoondi

[prisma yarrow]

i should read about that t2s3 not sure what it does

[west musk]

Problem with the t2 is most people don’t have them leveled and they don’t ave a composite… just base affinity/class

i think the only way a t2s3 can be viable is if it’s high level and is an extra add on that doesn’t compromise main build

[scarlet spindle]

He's ok, but I mostly used him for earth and bulwark. It closed up both synergies.

[prisma yarrow]

my grilla was dying so fast i kind of panic move all the augment out, i would try the invoker on the archeleon may be next

[idle jay]

Yo guys what happened with ILV Worlds, where can I read info about it and who won and all that

[light garnet]

You can watch all the Illuvium IPL videos on Youtube. Every game was recorded and casted by Sylen, Paz and Caveman!
https://www.youtube.com/@Illuvium/streams

this link will bring you straight to the 'Live' portion of their Youtube. but if you scroll down, you'll see some IPL videos.

Here is the link for the Grand Finals, if you are more interested in that - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx6RgWmxlxA

[ashen mango]

Any news about ascendant? @worn tree
I was not a fan of this mode but I heard that it's going through a change

[worn tree]

It's coming soon

The new version is a snappier/simpler version of Gauntlet, but 1v1

It's the MVP, so I will be paying close attention to all the feedback you guys hand out about the MVP, and iterate from there.

[ashen mango]

Perfect, can't wait to try it out 🙂
Mechabellum would be a great inspiration imo
I got hooked as soon as I played it and had a hard time closing the app
I wish we have a choice at the end of each round like:
Receive more gold per round/a rain of fire attack that we can place wherever we want (reloads in 2 rounds)/being able to summon X unit (reloads in 3 rounds)/buy 3 Cling etc

[ashen mango]

1godsent1 you are in a game

[west musk]

3/8

[edgy bough]

Lez go!

[worn tree]

So far the dev efforts have been minimal to release this fast. So its just a simpler version of Gauntlet for 2 players.

If the format proves itself, we might invest more dev effort on improving Ascendant with features like the ones you suggest.

[west musk]

Any word on incentive for players? Fuel drops, fuel rewards, tourney dates, xp crates?

That would really help fill lobbies more

[dull wind]

it's coming

[west musk]

thoon 😄

[scarlet spindle]

@amber ridge you are in a game

[west musk]

6/8

[shut yacht]

Deck envy spoon. 100 TPI blotto

[safe valve]

100 TPI Blotto?...

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-super-saiyan-gif-18286969

[ashen mango]

I'll keep this one

What AI did you use?

[safe valve]

can't remember really... i guess either gemini or cgpt.
From the artstyle i guess it was cgpt

[west musk]

2/8 👀

[ashen mango]

It looks sick 🔥

[west musk]

missed out on that last game yall played earlier... was fun to watch tho

[safe valve]

i remember i prompted it a couple times, but couldn't figure out to keep the fins and don't alter them into hands

[ashen mango]

It's fine, does it have a tail though?

I mean the real Slashin

[mighty tulip]

With ascendant that's all you'll need 😁

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-6564373007119861775

[safe valve]

yea i think so

[mighty tulip]

No bots and we can actually start matching players based on performance/elo. Ascendant can't come soon enough

[shut yacht]

Hektor Archelon dark holo looks sick

[shut yacht]

One of those 5/100 games

[zenith mortar]

@ebon aspen oof

[ebon aspen]

how many t5 total in a pool 15 right ? for a specific unit

[ebon aspen]

tried playing 4 shock and it was total garbage

[prisma yarrow]

his jotun was about to kill my phorus but his ghazotep save him giving me the win

[west musk]

3/8

https://tenor.com/view/wri-dio-baby-dio-wry-gif-20175660

[mighty tulip]

I play 4 shock sometimes when there's someone in my lobby I know I can't beat. I'll settle for 2nd and get some experience for my air units

[west musk]

@zenith mortar 👀 u playin?

[zenith mortar]

town hall startingf

shortly

[west musk]

Ohhhh right 😅

[wintry geode]

GG @viral marsh , that was intense!

[pseudo phoenix]

5/8

[wintry geode]

@pseudo phoenix That was crazy, nice battle!

[pseudo phoenix]

yes

[ebon aspen]

@safe valve not a single shrimp all game how is that even possible 👀

[safe valve]

Likely because you didn't Finish your last meal.
My mom always told me i have to Finish my meal, or rng-god gona rek me

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-gif-21994457

[prisma yarrow]

what about when you have 8 stage 3 illuvials on the board, 4 muds 3 beserker, and your 2 best illuvials lvl 60 juton and umbree with both shield breaker and it feels like you dont own any illyvials vs a nature /impath because you bearly scratch the team ....

[ebon aspen]

Know that feeling 😌

[fallen vortex]

Mechabellum is the gold standard in turn based multiplayer strategy.

Its so good it kinda hurts

[fallen vortex]

From a gameplay perspective i kind of like the idea of a 1v1 gauntlet. From an ownership perspective, I cant stand it

[jolly whale]

Was the pre building a deck feature from ascendant that unpopular? I liked it, but perhaps they could find a simpler way to do it?

[outer surge]

I think it just got to a point where the mode got "figured out". Where the best team and exact build order with the exact instructions of what to play on what turn happened. I've heard the term "flow charty" used quite often for this.

A Gauntlet style definitely removes any chance of flow charty play since you have no idea what you are going to get.

I do still miss having premade teams and my build orders. But I get why it might not have made for the most entertaining game mode

[jolly whale]

Surely custom illuvial stats and levels would break that mold! Or at least change it up a bit.

Just not sure how a illuvial pool system would work with only 2 players?

[west musk]

2/8

[prisma yarrow]

I only remember that I didn't like at all and that I use wish that the way I was building my team in the overworld game mode was way better/easier/faster. (the way to sort, scroll down to find illuvial and drag and drop) I also use to look at all my illuvial stats through overworld game mode.

[prisma yarrow]

coming for the lesson

[west musk]

sounds like its gonna be gauntlet except 1v1 right?

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/prince-the-greatest-romance-ever-sold-2000s-music-music-video-gif-2196614226446614516

[prisma yarrow]

if you want a challenge, play without augment lol

[west musk]

I'll try... as long as spoon isnt in the lobby

If there's a composite... ima grab it tho cuzzzz

[prisma yarrow]

just use your augment when you are at like 30 health at the end

if I even get you there

[west musk]

sounds like a plan

know what u gonna build?

GLHF!

[prisma yarrow]

there is ane other like my level I think ... teloolah

[west musk]

yep

gonna go no aug unless things get dire XD

[prisma yarrow]

ouff

[west musk]

bloom composite

[prisma yarrow]

ok put your augment

[west musk]

XD

Interesting to see with/without

[prisma yarrow]

i was just hoping that i could give you a challenge, but i really mess up the last fight on positionning

[west musk]

that was fun tho

I should have sent malura to your squid on the previous round

i wonder if that would have made a difference

[jolly whale]

I'd be pretty cool with that method for picking illuvials!

As long as you could quickly switch to a previously saved set

[prisma yarrow]

I wish I could take that last fight, switch you for a bot and redo it over and over until i find a positioning that works. I don't think my team was hopeless even with your augment.

[west musk]

I didn't get my weapon that game... was lookin for earth empath
I been workin on a bloom mystic thing
That game had to go bloom arcanite

[west musk]

4/8

https://tenor.com/view/don't-be-shy-danny-mullen-please-don't-hesitate-gif-4814155810719121390

[low comet]

nc game @noble hinge your illuvials are scary HAAHAHAHAHA

[noble hinge]

GG. I didn't move fast enough at the end on my replacement but at least you got to meet Lars. 😀

[worn tree]

Could you be more specific please?

[hot pond]

Why is deck building a problem when it is just common in literally any TCG?

If I bought the best rhamphyre and spent hundreds of dollars for it I want to use and dominate with it and not rely on some shop rng as it is with gauntlet

[tawny dove]

Im with you on this one. But at the same time, I found Ascendant to be boring very quickly last time, as it was almost scripted from start to end. As Sylen wrote, it was almost "flow charty". And for the most part games were determined by the matchup, and you had little to no chance to adapt during games. And then there was the luck part about positioning, as we could not see opponent placements during idle phases - but thats a different thing.
I'm all for deckbuilding, but there has to be RNG/agency, so its not just 2 static decks with 99% preplanned gameplay battling it out.

[hot pond]

I think just the live positioning as we have now would have made a huge difference already back then

[tawny dove]

Absolutely. It was annoying as hell

[hot pond]

We even had full comp swaps which was crazy. You couldn’t really do that with live positioning. I mean you could but you would be able to counter

[cyan olive]

normal games have a better deckbuilder/better prebuild decks/3rd party support

[cyan olive]

yeah could have done some game design, but was given up upon quickly into "lets clone TFT instead"
I remember giving many options, like breaking up turns to not be 1 full blind play for both but smaller increments like a normal 1v1 turn based game 👀

[hot pond]

When I take yugioh as an example which I mainly played and still play, I dont really see any of the aspects you mentioned

[cyan olive]

Yugioh (Master Duell? or Paper) is the by far most new player unfriendly game anyways, people play it from Paper Background or because they like the IP, nonetheless you can type into google and find many websites or search on youtube to find guides etc.

They also have infinite solo player content and Tutorials in their client and inventivy you to play them with daily gems even

[hot pond]

mainly master duel. Which is pretty much a coin flip simulator at this point

[cyan olive]

best of 1 has been like that for decades

[hot pond]

we at least dont have the eternal problem of the player going first having like 5000% advantage

[cyan olive]

1st/2nd is a problem in 1v1 turn based games, every game to some extent favors one or the other at times depending on the decks etc.
you can mitigate the impacts though, that´s why yugioh e.g. has handtraps, somehow the same people still win events, so can´t be that bad either in the bo3s in recent years even

[hot pond]

I don’t see that problem within 1v1 arena because the turns are happening simultaneously. Now with live positioning active it’s a much better experience imo

[hot pond]

I remembered one of the recent YCS in which the 3 games of the final ended within the very first turn of each player. So basically the whole match had 3 turn zeros 😂

[cyan olive]

Things happening simultaneously blind means coinflip positioning, if it isn´t blind mostly apm check, or uneven favoring either a team that needs to move less or comming down to both making 1 last millisec move coinflipping game again

[cyan olive]

Yeah yugioh is mostly turn 1-2 game, either one bricks, or the other can play through the boards/has enough handtraps, just what the game is, very unique card game.

[fallen vortex]

Really my number 1 gripe with gauntlet arena is that to play you kind of feel weird without owning 150+ NFTs in your collection. This is a super strange gameplay component for any game.

Ascendant inherently fixes this if you bring a deck with you, or have some sort of narrow focus on 10-20 NFTs.

Now a 1v1 sped up gauntlet is quite compelling in terms of gameplay. Directly competing against a limited pool of Illuvials, the rng and replayability of it, the mind games and so on.

But with ownership turned on, it's kind of gross for the same reason I dislike the gauntlet's ownership system.

So you're taking the good AND bad of gauntlet, enhancing it with the rapid 1v1 format. Rather than leaving the bad elements a distant memory.

[fallen vortex]

If it doesn't have a limitation on moving units between rounds I'm honestly just gonna leave the entire ecosystem 🤣🤣. Not worth for me at that point.

Don't need to look further than mechabellum, that game is incredibly good, it's kind of nuts really

[worn tree]

Personally, I think Ascendant is a chessy gauntlet.

The beautify of chess is that both players start with the same conditions. If we apply ownership to this, that magic is lost.

But at the same time, we are a web 3 project and we should reward ownership somehow.

One option that I really liked was the "LIL" Leading Illuvial Line, where you pick one "hero" (illuvial) to start with, and that one is the only in your team who benefits from ownership.

This approaches players to an "even" state, and make ownership onboarding much more seamless, as instead of having to own the entire collection, now you only need 1 line.

Keen to know what you guys think about this. I can imagine hardcore collectors won't like this idea. But for onboarding it would be much better. Imagine a guy trying ascendant and getting melted against a hardcore collection player.

---

For the record, the current plan is to release Ascendant with Ownership exactly as Gauntlet. But I think this will hinder onboarding.

[frank moon]

I love how we started with going 50/50 rewards leviathan/f2p and then never ever testing leviathan with rewards decently and assuming it will hinder onboarding. Let's keep pivoting till we are out of runway and then say 'ahhh we tried'

Maybe we just run another $100 tournament for five consecutive Mondays and call it a day

[fallen vortex]

I always thought a mini deck could be cool.

Eg U pick 3 lines. Your opponent can see they are your owned lines. Do they contest? Try counter? Idk

[fallen vortex]

I do somewhat concur here.

We've never actually properly attempted leviathan. I am still doubtful it'll work, but it's been pretty unfair.

It's not for me and I would stop playing arena, but I think it's fair to tru

Try

[west musk]

This whole problem wouldn’t be a problem if there were more players.

There are plenty successful web2 games where you ‘own’ cards and build xp and level them up and rank up arenas.

A low level player would never go against a high level player…

[ashen mango]

It sounds like a clever way solve the problem

Maybe 2 lines for a bit more NFT involvement

[worn tree]

Similar to LIL, but with 3 lines

[worn tree]

Yes, 2-3 would be a good middle ground.

[turbid osprey]

The project needs ownership, we "launched" 1.5 years ago and still havent incentivized any of it yet

Its true that it limits onboarding though but thats what the ecosystem is about and how it can generate revenue

Illuvial collection iip has passed now though so you can now have fair, competitive free mode but tie the rewards to ownership

[ashen mango]

Since our NFTs will be way stronger than standard illuvials, the optimal strategy will be to play them right from the beginning
A way to add strategic depth would be to reward holding back for a few rounds before using them

[prisma yarrow]

when you water damage dones almost nothing to that fully healling team, and my umbre is almost full stats lvl 60

my opshisto is also kind of full stats

its a bit sad that he got the luck to get 2 nature augment and i could not get a water one

[frank moon]

When I played Hearthstone 10 years ago I achieved the highest rank. As soon as a new set was released, I dropped out of that rank because I didn’t know the new cards and didn’t own any of them. At that point, I only saw a couple of options:

1. accept that I was no longer at the top and have less fun
2. quit the game
3. grind to earn the cards and have fun
4. simply buy them and have fun

Meanwhile, after all the promises we’ve made, here we are saying: “Well, we can’t really force these Web3 players to spend". You can pick up half a deck with 80+ TPI for under 100 bucks lol

[west musk]

I personally dislike that rewards will be tied to collection and not game play.

Maybe it will be alright… but these last 2 months of Levi with no proper incentive have felt very anemic.

I have new people very interested in the game but scratching their head as to why they should play without progression system and rewards…

[turbid osprey]

Yea cutting to 0 reward and as it unfortunately often happens, the complete lack of future concrete plans has been very bad for the player base

A lot of people would comeback for just little something to work towards and compete for but with not even something to look up to eventually most players completely stopped

I agree that direct gameplay rewards are best. Hopefully we get an update on rewards and future plans soon 🙏🏼

[hot pond]

That slayer dualeph tho 😄

you also dont have 8 water tho

[wide eagle]

If they do it as per my proposal with the collection tree, rewards would be based on both collection + gameplay missions. It will also act as progression system. Covers all your requirements

[prisma yarrow]

when i make him stage 3 i though he would be the only one making kills

[hot pond]

Nope, as strong as umbre is, without steam and 8 water he doesnt stack too much

and you struggle to get your first kill against full tank nature which doesnt enable you to snowball with combat rythm drone augment

also slayer in that regard

[prisma yarrow]

i guess 8 water vs 8 nature comes down to luck with water augment vs nature aug. but dualeth melt me like easy one shot, its hard to learn with these illuvial diffenrence in spec.

[outer surge]

Bond your Ranger to a Rogue to get Vanguard. In that game the Slashin was your main carry but you had Steam, Templar as your Ranger synergy. It may not have won you the game, but if you had Vanguard your Slashin would have popped off way harder than it did. @prisma yarrow

[prisma yarrow]

even if the slashin is stop over and over by the fernite

yup my fluud was badly positioned, I guess

[west musk]

I guess we shall see

When tho? 😅

[hot pond]

Nah 8 water with steam umbre would mostly win because nature doesnt deal much dmg. Longer fights = better for umbre because steam gets stronger over time. Also dualeph will melt corners over time

[viral marsh]

4 verdant get healed to full hp after every cast of umbre/dualeph. no way to win vs full hyper/bird s3

[hot pond]

true with 4 verdant yea

[viral marsh]

even with 2-3. ranger heal+ador heal+archie = full hp for every cast

[hot pond]

not sure if at some point they will just get one shot though. at least weak res units

[twilit storm]

Ascendant is the game that most reminds me of that classic 3D holochess match Chewbacca has aboard the Millennium Falcon while traveling through outer space.

[prisma yarrow]

this Synalph...

[west musk]

Sylqn casting

4/8

He picked prev ongoing game 🙁

[wide eagle]

Probably never, that stupid r2e thingi will be done first

[prisma yarrow]

roll 30 times hoping for one more carablu

[prisma yarrow]

them i should have move one

sometime you can make 5 stage 3, sometime trying to make a second one is just killing you. My worst game ever

[shut yacht]

Juniors MUD deck is starting to get on my nerves…I know what’s coming and I still can’t stop the cards from running me over

[shut yacht]

I picked up my deck 35c at a time. It took 9 hours. I hope we can offer to buy/sell bulk on marketplace.

[viral marsh]

you can check > illuvials-dex. i see it's some bulk offers here.

[west plume]

GG @prisma yarrow

[prisma yarrow]

i wanted that juton since the begening i am so mad at RNG

my weapon was base on behemoth

ggg

[tawny dove]

I know its petty, but everytime he is in the lobby I pick mud, just to mess with his one-trick-pony play. Probably gimping myself, but idc.

[shut yacht]

I pick grilla/aapon until stage 15 then dump it and viola that’s when he gets exhalted

[tawny dove]

It's tough to grief anyone by just holding a few units in games with only a few human players. In good lobbies getting everything you want, like the mud comp, is much harder.

[shut yacht]

Sweet, my first time beating @outer surge . Now I have to watch the stream of it!

[west musk]

@outer surge sorry bout surrendering earlier... I though you were gonna stream the next one and I wanted to catch it... ended up fucking up and missing all of them.

[outer surge]

GG 😄 You caught me in my down time though I didn't have the stream up 😛

[outer surge]

No worries, I'm sorry it didn't work out. There will be other chances I'm sure though!

[shut yacht]

I’ll still watch the stream. Thanks for the town hall update. Still not sure what risk to earn is all about.

[prisma yarrow]

@scarlet spindle you got scared there

[low comet]

these guys are new or they just changed name?

[viral marsh]

which guys? i see most of names who are long time here

[mellow bolt]

Given the state of the market, anyone selling high TPI stage three on a fire sale discount?

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

@west plume

[west plume]

Looks like a Noob lobby

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pissed-mad-angry-furious-gif-4720563

[mighty tulip]

Came 2nd, I can't break that verdant corner comp of @viral marsh think I've tried every combination of decent illuvial I have at this point😅

[viral marsh]

shop just give me free archie stage-3 this game

[viral marsh]

when fix?

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/marvel-guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-l0IxZpEsbQYba4h6E

posting it here doesn't make it fix faster, ser.
You just fucked up arena until next patch

[viral marsh]

ye. this bug here for how long? 2 month?
i see already some people abuse it.
now test it by myself, and give info to everyone.

probably 1month untill we got nerf

[safe valve]

Yea it's been a while but pretty much everybody forgot about it.
Just write a Ticket or dm Nil...

[viral marsh]

can't dm him.

[safe valve]

Can't write a Ticket either?

[mighty tulip]

And I still came 2nd to your healing corner comp. Tell me, which is more broken rn 🤣

[viral marsh]

i show your bug.
not teling about balance in game

[mighty tulip]

If I see people playing that I'm loading up my Scoriox 💪

[viral marsh]

i'l play it in every game from now.
hardest thing reroll untill you got component/3rd aug

[safe valve]

Cya Next patch i guess

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

[viral marsh]

when next patch?

[safe valve]

Nah... I play for Fun...
It's Like switching on aimbot and join a CS cheat server

[mighty tulip]

What else we supposed to do against these verdant corners though. Health bars that don't even move it's crazy 😅

[safe valve]

Abusing exploits is never the solution, ser

[viral marsh]

exploits like this should be fixed in 1-2 days.
not in 1-2 month

but some augs work in other side.
put 3rd aug, got debuff for dmg...

[mighty tulip]

When a comp has no legitimate counter of comparable (or even greater) build difficulty, that’s a balance failure. When players knowingly build a team that currently has no viable counter in game, they’re exploiting an advantage created by that imbalance.

To be clear, I’m not judging players who do it. If it’s in the game, people are going to use it and that’s fair imo. Addressing these issues is on the devs, not the players. But I make no distinction between the exploits discussed 🫡

[safe valve]

I don't know about stronger Decks, but i can counter verdant with Like 3 comps. Except it's 4 verdant which it is usually not

• you can contest it

... But abusing exploits.... Hell nah

[safe valve]

No distinction between a strong comp and an Exploit? 😄

[mighty tulip]

Wait so if something is overpowered but intentional that's okay. But if it's overpowered and unintentional that's not okay?

So it's only Dev intention that matters not the fact that something is OP?

[viral marsh]

it's not owerpowered. it's broken.
i'm sure any x3 augs broken.
who know, probably something else as well work not as should.
this penguin with atack range and 4rev in 2 hit kill 5k bulwark.
Rhamphyre who cast omega 1 by 1 with 2 augs for immune.
etc.

[mighty tulip]

That's my point though I don't make a distinction between any of your examples being an exploit and any of them being just "strong". They're all balance issues and fair game until fixed.

The idea that it's ok to build a 4rev penguin but not go 3aug Scoriox is ridiculous. We got gauntlet police now 🚨🚨😅

[viral marsh]

it's why need tell about it more. probably something changes.
remove revenant chip/Synchronizing Pulse Reactor from augs, if it's hard to fix that.

[prisma yarrow]

there is a way to reroll augment?, I saw someone with 3 times that augment on his 2 berserker, I wonder how he did that.

[viral marsh]

put here component>got random of other 2 for next round.
put here aug> got random from same kind (chance 1/6 got what you need) for next round.

[low comet]

monarch, godsent,
I only see junior last month

[prisma yarrow]

OMG that is anoying

[uncut comet]

cmon bro u got this lock the fuck in

[west musk]

2/8

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-bullish-car-kid-kids-gif-27338537

[west musk]

3/8

[west musk]

ggz

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/ec3-entrance-wwe-main-event-gif-22894075

[prisma yarrow]

i got so anoyed to be beat like 3-4 time today with that nature/impath, i was wondering to learn how to be it vs you

[west musk]

It's tough yep

[prisma yarrow]

but this comp was luck base, i got the right augment, i wont be able to do it over and over

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/rumble-wwf-fight-michael-buffer-announcement-gif-5453432

[prisma yarrow]

2 nature ones and one impath

[west musk]

thought u would jump right into another 😄

[west musk]

I'm gonna try @zenith mortar with no augs like we did the other day

[zenith mortar]

you gonna get rekt

[prisma yarrow]

the 2 others are you

[prisma yarrow]

i want to see that

[zenith mortar]

5B2C40

[west musk]

Oh dear

[west musk]

have we even had a round together yet? XD

[zenith mortar]

shhh

you like that squizz attack

[zenith mortar]

photoshop

[west musk]

next you'll say ai edits XD

[prisma yarrow]

he looks scary

[zenith mortar]

i mean after i type it i realised ppl wont even know thats a thing in the future

lol

like cds

[west musk]

im fighting your ghost

oof

[zenith mortar]

losing to my ghost

[west musk]

was like casper

[zenith mortar]

we won that in spirit

https://tenor.com/view/brave-heart-mel-gibson-william-wallas-they-may-take-our-loves-theyll-never-take-our-freedom-gif-4879274

[west musk]

https://tenor.com/view/thegoon-bigoldgoon-ted-lasso-yes-yes-yes-yes-gif-701975896996955852

[bronze spire]

when reward page back up you think?

[zenith mortar]

Im guessing as soon as migration as done. They are pushing hard to get it done

[west musk]

teloolah got me D:

[prisma yarrow]

4 inferno looks crasy.... not easy to do

[vivid stone]

It was so close. Augments make such a huge difference!

[bronze spire]

oh mb thought it was done

[jolly whale]

I think I am becoming a 2nd place specialist!

Must be more people playing

[hot pond]

Who won that match @jolly whale ? My ISP just decided to turn off my internet

[jolly whale]

I dont want to talk about it lol

No you won even disconnected I think with only 7 illuvials

[hot pond]

I was pushing for level 8 when I DC

Didn’t expect to win though

[jolly whale]

That penguin was very mean!

I beat you in one round didn't change anything then lost the next, didn't even move anything

[hot pond]

That legendary augment is the best imo

[jolly whale]

Was it the one that gives extra range/attack speed?

[hot pond]

Yep

[jolly whale]

Yeah nice

I was one short on 8 nature.... didn't get the chip

[hot pond]

So the penguin is safe from all sorts of shenanigans like blotto blind or root or whatever CC

[jolly whale]

I think your illuvial collection is up there with some of the best

I need to level to many of mine up

[hot pond]

I focused on getting good rogue units which is why I am forcing them in every match to level

So annoying that all bots take penguins with literally any bulwark or rogue weapon

[jolly whale]

Its working

[hot pond]

So sometimes I can’t even get slashin to earn xp

[jolly whale]

Donno I think bots having your fav illuvials is an advantage.... they always get knocked out early so you know when you can access them

[hot pond]

Way easier to level mammuth or jotun, they never take them

[jolly whale]

Mammoth for sure

[hot pond]

Also sear is pretty free

[jolly whale]

I been playing some enchanter builds cause ghazotep is pretty easy to get atm

[hot pond]

True. The fox is also pretty free

[trim jetty]

is there a technique to get ılluvials you want cause people can make three tier5 stage 3 illuvials and i cant even get a ryplance

[tawny dove]

Managing economy and maximizing interest, keeping track of contested units, knowing best levels to roll for specific Illuvials. And then some luck from the RNG gods 🙂

[trim jetty]

failed at luck stage

[tawny dove]

Many of us are always happy to hop on voice and give some pointers. Joining a guild is also a great way to get good help.

[trim jetty]

where can i join a guild

[lime cloak]

pretty broken 🤣

[west plume]

i see you met Junior

did you win?

[lime cloak]

yes.. stacking 3 of those augments on same unit is pretty broken. that's clearly a bug that need to be fixed.

Like Fox also posted here #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[frank moon]

can't wait for the team to come back from christmas holiday. Normally it's only 2 months but now it is taking a little longer

[west plume]

need to get the migration done ser

[frank moon]

ofc everyone focused on migration. Can't even fix game breaking bugs. GU and GoG migrated within a week and here we are

[west plume]

There is no rush,and updates for arena will come

[frank moon]

I agree they deserve a holiday, leviathan can wait an extra year there was nothing promised

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-sarcasm-i-sense-sarcasm-sarcastic-gif-15392780

[lime cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/sarcastic-shade-sarcasm-gif-5327118

[west plume]

GG @prisma yarrow

[prisma yarrow]

gg, once hektor was dead, I took the triple aug. out

[west plume]

good thing you only had two🫠

dont get mad,but i will try out the 3 augs

[mighty tulip]

Interestingly it doesn't seem to have the same effect on the lynx. Baby lynx anyway

[prisma yarrow]

what is this... a pay back lol

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/yeah-yep-ya-gif-2495301426354871501

[prisma yarrow]

i am building a wall. I hope you can climb

[west plume]

Jfc stop healing

[prisma yarrow]

lol

i thought you had me

[west plume]

GG

Your wall was insane

[prisma yarrow]

GG

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/oooh-chris-pratt-parks-and-rec-surprised-shocked-gif-14609379

[viral marsh]

it's have same effect on every unit.
but units who cleave with auto-atack get big bonus from this bug.

[prisma yarrow]

GG you made me die rich

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/cmt-freedom-the-shawshank-redemption-tim-robbins-rain-gif-14035085

[prisma yarrow]

OMG this verdant is hard to kill

[viral marsh]

usually give 20-60+ omega power.
so this omega overflow seems like joke.

[safe valve]

Because it's not laid out for leviathan, since there wasn't a Balance patch since the Change i would assume

[viral marsh]

when patch? xD

[west musk]

5/8

[viral marsh]

it's same with most drone augs.
and if you unlucky to got % things. well, have pick +300hp

[west musk]

6/8

[jolly whale]

Yeah.... I just tried this on a fern was nutz! Seems everyone is using it now to!

Is this a bug? Or just a scaling issue?

Does this bug happen with different augments or is it just that energy one?

[west musk]

2/8

[ebon aspen]

against 4 Verd and still can't kill 🫣

just 160k damage no big deal 😂

[safe valve]

Picture says you won 🙃

[junior geyser]

Is there an info sheet on the available augments anywhere?

[safe valve]

Check out the public Info doc

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[junior geyser]

Thank you

[lime cloak]

Think it a little of both actually... Things that scale with a % is generally a little more powerfull in Leviathan, since Illuvials gain increaded base stats. But for this the main issue is when you stack 3 Synchronizing Pulse Reactor, that looks like a bug.

The example from Fox is actually very good... with the Phyriox.
Base Attack: 324
1 augment: 435
2 augment: 453
3 augment: 841

Some will have an attack even higher, like that Monkey with 1322. using it on something that dose cleave/AE base damage becomes pretty broken.

[jolly whale]

Yeah I just got taken to pound town by the monkey, was 1 hitting 3 illuvials at once with mud

[west plume]

GG @frail mural

[jolly whale]

ok game is really fudgin dumb with everyone using this augament

aegis makes it even more op

[frank moon]

this junior must be a bot leveling up kierans illuvials

[scarlet spindle]

Yeah he seems to play about 43 hours a day

[frail mural]

GG Lars😊

[jolly whale]

They already mostly 60.... just keeps playing the same ones

I actually won this game cause I blocked his monkier

[zealous atlas]

When can I complete my withdrawal?

[jolly whale]

Definitely do not click that link @zealous atlas

@safe valve @west plume

[zealous atlas]

thankyou

[jolly whale]

Migration will finish soon! You'll be able to get your 21c then 🙃

[zealous atlas]

no, I withdrew nearly $100. Just waiting to withdraw to metamask

[viral marsh]

nice meta btw

[jolly whale]

Give it 24 hours

[jolly whale]

We could def use some tweeking! Definitely not enjoying the triple augment spam

[ebon aspen]

Actually he came back to win the game

[viral marsh]

ye. 1 game i got them at round 10-11.
other game roll all game, got 3 of them at 24

[safe valve]

sounds like a skill issue to me 😛

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[scarlet spindle]

Lol Hector that is such a wild bug. It the augs claim energy damage but he is totally physical isnt it?

[scarlet spindle]

This one, this seems bugged and anyone knowingly abusing it...
This is an energy damage augment, it shouldn't effect a purely physical damage unit.

[viral marsh]

why you say it's energy dmg?
holder gain %AD as ED. is it his extra dmg?
but still, bug in other thing.

[scarlet spindle]

Right, it should take his physical damage and turn it into energy damage, so in theory it should not make him stronger

Yet it puts him to 1350 dmg and he is single handedly killing my 4 or 5 level 50-60 units by himslef

[viral marsh]

you sure that turn, not add extra?

and about bug>scroll up. i explain how this bug work.

[scarlet spindle]

Strong is one thing, but overpowered broken with the wrong effect is what it feels like

[viral marsh]

coz it's mud, who steal dmg, and every 3rd hit 200% dmg shot your units. yes.

[scarlet spindle]

I would think the augs should put him up about 500 energy damage and 60% ER piercing. When he hits you its not energy, so none of that should apply. Is cleave energy?

[scarlet spindle]

Ok I see it now. I guess my mind is still stuck when Monkier had no omega anything, but they added that to his cleave so I see what's happening now.

[prisma yarrow]

ouff

switched my aug from slashin to umbre with 6 fire

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-disgusting-david-david-rose-dan-levy-schitts-creek-gif-20256047

@safe valve

Umbre

[safe valve]

But yea... I agree 😂

but also... what should i play?
I heard umbre is digusting, verdant is disgusting, slashin is broken, fire inferno is too op, mud is disgusting...

this patch nearly every comp got called out as broken or disgusting ... except air

[west plume]

was more that i had three units left and your Umbre just bitch slapped them all

[ebon aspen]

@safe valve you just like those stage 3s dont you 😂

[safe valve]

https://giphy.com/gifs/face-slap-srD8JByP9u3zW

[ebon aspen]

too many stage 3s

[safe valve]

warfighter made sure i have a hard time getting caradulox and ryplance tho 😄

[ebon aspen]

i see, bacause of you I coudnt go full nature 😒

[safe valve]

you wanted to go full nature?
I was super confused on what you actually wanted to play 😄
Rolling for that chukondi super early i thought you make something like wildfire preds... but then saw you didn't roll for grilla... confusion got more extreme when i saw you not picking up blotto 😄

[ebon aspen]

I tried that already vs your comp and it doesnt work, so I had to try something new

maybe 4 Spore 4 mystic

probally needed tempest

[safe valve]

you were lacking massive dmg i feel

[ebon aspen]

yep

[safe valve]

need some high end carry in there

[west plume]

sensing a trend

[prisma yarrow]

i click on the wrong weapon my mind is trash already

[safe valve]

looks like something fox would play

[viral marsh]

bloom without bloom?

[prisma yarrow]

am I the only one that would want the flow of the game been stop less

when you kill or die so fast why the wait, let me mess around with mu illuvial on the board, you can buy but cant play with augment

its just weird to me

the game wants to be fast pace but they stop it over and over

[safe valve]

i think that's mostly to give everyone the same preperation time.
You automatically would passive buff agressive gameplay

but i can just guess...

[prisma yarrow]

placement is so hard on laptop I use my entire time just miss clicling trying to place guys around

[ashen mango]

I find it fine on laptop

[prisma yarrow]

dyiing rich after 5 fight just cause moving units around is too hard .... cant see how this game could ever be on a phone

[ashen mango]

17" though

[prisma yarrow]

i think I have a 15'' but i am far from good a first shooter or thinks like that

this is why I wish they stop cutting the flow of the game, you only can buy or fuse augment if we win a battle fast... let me do everything and I will stop waiting or not been able to do what I want. we are not all pros.... I dont think I am the only one really anoyed by not having the time to do what I want, how many new players quit the game for that reason...

[ashen mango]

Yeah I agree, it's hard to do everything you want, the APM floor is high

[prisma yarrow]

in my case, the quality of my team is massively compensating for my lack of skill, its not the case for new players.

[mighty tulip]

It's not a guaranteed W though. I've beaten many a player using it

4/8 come get some 💪

[scarlet spindle]

I was misunderstanding the mechanics on that

[mighty tulip]

I was the first. I don't use it these days but just saying 💪😅

[mighty tulip]

@worn tree wen patch ☝️

[noble hinge]

I have wondered this a lot. I can't see being able to play this on my phone.

[jolly whale]

This is too long

[prisma yarrow]

leave and comeback right away

it might be a bug

[jolly whale]

If there are no other players in the lobby wouldnt it go back to 1/8

[prisma yarrow]

yes

me clicking on this, then watching youtube...

why is it so long

[jolly whale]

Ill restart game

[prisma yarrow]

i do this mistake at least every week

[jolly whale]

2/8

[jolly whale]

That is annoying.... You need a second monitor so you can see both!

[prisma yarrow]

traveling right now so it wont happen soon... 3-4 weeks left and I will have a better set up

[jolly whale]

3 composite chips..... nuts

[prisma yarrow]

my umbre is almost perfect and lvl 60 and he did 0 damage to your juton

i still had a lots of money and 3 augments not place

I dont mind loosing, but its very frustration not been able to position, buy and place augment

its like playing chess but some one skip your turn instead of you click the clock

[jolly whale]

This was pretty nutz. 4 Dust, 4 beserker, 2 Enchant, 2 Colosus, 2 Behemoth, 2 toxic, 6 air

You cant kill Beserker, colosus, Behemoth Jotun