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west quartz
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max stack is 1

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but max treshold is 4%, how ?

worn tree
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max threshold of the composite

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Composites have 3 thresholds --> 2/3/4

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at 4 toxic, your poisoning deals twice as much damage

west quartz
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also while i have you here, please stop the color change madness and revert to blue item = Mana, Yellow = tank xD

west quartz
halcyon nova
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get ready boyz and grilz in nearly ready just nead me second screan up and running

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Ima pre prepared xbox ally incoming already geforceNow on my 98 Inch LG tv get ya ass in gear ILv ๐Ÿ˜‰

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thenn ima battling stikz

halcyon nova
west quartz
worn tree
blazing helm
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When is patch?

viral marsh
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if we not got it in next 4 hours

ashen mango
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Current top 14 leviathan leaderboard
Very different from the ranked one

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Of course the sample size is way lower and good players prefer to farm the ranked leaderboard but it's nice to see other faces at the top ๐Ÿ™‚

safe valve
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where sota?

ashen mango
safe valve
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where is sota on the leaderboard?

ashen mango
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Way below ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ashen mango
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I'm just above bots

safe valve
ashen mango
ashen mango
safe valve
calm raven
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Do we have the sit'n'go qualifiers for leviathan tournament today? I cannot see them in events or illuvilytics

viral marsh
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finaly we have average search for game 5 min

violet summit
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best carry and healer, what else we need?
@bronze spire

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game won at round 11 with a composite picked during carousel

@worn tree when can we have composites removed from carousell forever?
this is breaking games completely

bronze spire
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but yea pretty sure his heard this feedback quite a bit

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and harbinger on lynx is silly

violet summit
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you could have easily dominated earlier if you had found the atlas

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but having composites on carousell brings so much unbalance to the table

bronze spire
violet summit
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you basically had 2 composites on 1 single illuvial

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turning it into the best dmg dealer and healer of the game

bronze spire
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i also got magma from carosel later lol

violet summit
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yes

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I should have screenshoted your team

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its insanely unbalanced versus the otherr teams

low comet
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The sit n Go later is leviathan?

bronze spire
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i think they should only appear on legendary carosels maybe

violet summit
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how many composites you had? 3 ? 2 from caroussel

bronze spire
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i think 3 total

violet summit
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imagine you got also scoriox

bronze spire
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yea..

violet summit
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you basically had 3 composites at max level

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its nonsense

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im pretty sure I would have won this game if you only had 1 composite just like me

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but meh, im moving on
GG

violet summit
safe valve
lean ivy
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@viral marsh gg! I have been defeated by you over 20 times now and to finally win against you feels pretty good! And you even had the double invokers which was really scary

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ohhh you lost your 6 air. I wnder if that was the difference. Having my fighters miss more. instead of the singe

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Cause I lost to you earlier and was stressing cause I couldn't get any truesight I thought it was over

wide eagle
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How did he even lose that

frozen tartan
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<@&1400508814910029907> Leviathan 1/8

ashen mango
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4/8

ashen mango
frozen tartan
ashen mango
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I think that the lobby is getting filled with bots

mighty tulip
ashen mango
frozen tartan
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<@&1400508814910029907> 6/8

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๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

languid sparrow
ashen mango
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๐Ÿ˜ฑ

languid sparrow
frozen tartan
languid sparrow
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Coding illuviVault sorry #1 priority right now

ashen mango
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๐Ÿ‡จ ๐Ÿ‡ด ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ช ๐Ÿ‡ธ ๐Ÿ‡น ๐Ÿ‡ผ โ„น๏ธ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ณ ๐Ÿ‡ฎ ๐Ÿ‡ช

mighty tulip
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@west plume you not down for a game?

native mauve
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Ready fir some gauntlet

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Let me know when

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Leviathan tourney in 2h 20 min right?

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<@&1400508814910029907>

ashen mango
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This is the small one from Ti'ru lvl 60 (stage 1) in leviathan
Does it have the same stats as in ranked?

west plume
mellow star
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When does the Levi. competition start?

west plume
mellow star
native mauve
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Hey guys went to tempest guild discord its all in another language. So this leviathan sit n go is the same as usual. Just play ranked leviathan for 4 hours and its all good?

west plume
mellow star
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Does anyone feel like playing Levi right now?
just for fun?

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I am alone for now.๐Ÿ˜†

vale zephyr
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leviathan 3/8

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6/8

carmine obsidian
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7/8

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+1 go

ashen mango
carmine obsidian
ashen mango
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Omg @frozen tartan got the Revenant chip round 1

๐Ÿ‡ง ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ณ

quaint prawn
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I was wondering if it was rich who delivered the baby or his wife ? Just kidding ; I can imagine how happy and busy he must be ๐Ÿ˜€

scarlet spindle
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Are they going to put the tempest leviathan in the events?

west plume
quaint prawn
west plume
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And if the wife wants a vanilla milkshake in the middle of the night don't complain about the 20min drive one way.just drive๐Ÿ˜…

quaint prawn
quaint prawn
west plume
quaint prawn
west plume
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๐Ÿ† Tempest Illuvium Leviathan Tournament - Week 1 ๐Ÿ†

Guys, just a 1 hour left until our first week of the @illuviumio Leviathan Tournament, where weโ€™ll be using the same format as the IPL 250 with a $1,000 prize pool.

๐Ÿ“… EVENT SCHEDULE

Sit & Go Qualifiers (4h each):

SIT & GO

viral marsh
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do we need sign-up for that?

west plume
safe valve
viral marsh
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it's says in rules. sign-up. log at tournament web-site etc

safe valve
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don't think a sign up for the tournament is needed

calm raven
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That's for the people who had no illuvium account i think

viral marsh
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so. it's 4 hours or 6 games?

lilac stag
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to participate in sit n go i should just turn up leviathan mode and click find match? thats all ?

vale zephyr
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4 hours and 6 games

west musk
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whats crackin homies

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whats this about signing up

lilac stag
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it starts?

calm raven
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signing up is for new players

west musk
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so we good and can start now?

lilac stag
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can we start*

west plume
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Rich said they will get a sheet to track the games, not sure how that looks like. the Iluvilytics page is not ready yet for Levithan.

fringe zephyr
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can we start now ?

ocean geyser
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does leviathan use the highest level illuvials automatically?

ocean geyser
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perfect

vale zephyr
west musk
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are we stuck spinning for region>

cursive echo
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i reset *

west musk
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nvm that was the longest slot spin ever

tropic forge
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did leviathan tournament started? is it good to find games?

fringe zephyr
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where we can see tournament result ? give link to me pls )

zenith mortar
fringe zephyr
zenith mortar
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they have a sheet

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im letting them use

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until my website back up

fringe zephyr
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thanks bro !)

low comet
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The find match is quite long i think 4 games max

winter breach
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How long does it last, i need a half hour at least to get on my computer for leviathan Atlas_Pepe1

zenith mortar
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well 3 more now

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currently 7 leviathan lobbies going

woeful pawn
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gonna try the second batch this one i can't join

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do we need to sing up ? the links they send on X don't work, any of them

gloomy mural
ocean geyser
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big tank o.O

winter breach
zenith mortar
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rules here

high hill
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How can I use the illuvials I capture in overworld in ranked games?

zenith mortar
zenith mortar
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What?

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I meant to reply to @high hill not you

gloomy mural
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I know

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Im talking about the tournament

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we cant see the top 16 players rn?

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just need to know Im gonna sleep rn or continue playing'

zenith mortar
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the numbers wont be final until its over though obviously

gloomy mural
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thk

gloomy mural
fringe zephyr
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@zenith mortar pls ask , is it true that only first 6 games make my score ?

zenith mortar
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yes

fringe zephyr
zenith bough
zenith mortar
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bruh

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where you been

west plume
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Lol

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Ban incoming

zenith mortar
zenith mortar
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here @zenith bough... youre favourite community member made this site

zenith bough
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WOW. That's SICK. How do they get all these stats?

west plume
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Other projects used years without figuring out how to build it out, Rich did it in a weekend

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And hungover

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Maybe a bit longer than that

zenith bough
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always knew he is something special

west plume
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He is definitely special

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Tournament data get pulled in realtime so no action needed on the user end

zenith mortar
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lol well tournaments were working

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until chatgpt nuked it

west plume
zenith bough
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we got battle pass now ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

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How do I buy?

west plume
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How long have you been away?

zenith bough
west plume
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Oh

zenith bough
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Not that active though, time is limited

west plume
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Did you see the Mmo footage?

zenith bough
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no

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lol

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whats happening with all the news

west plume
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Devs been cooking

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WIP

ashen mango
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-4 xp in sanctum mesa leviathan @worn tree

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Fixed the round after

dull wind
zenith bough
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Did you have to register for the turney?

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don't see my name in the excel sheet

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nvm

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it is there now

west quartz
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do we also have to buy weapon for leviathan ?

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and if i buy it while in game, does it instantly upgrade ?

winter breach
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I still don't know what happened to the poisonous scepter I've once had

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Or whatever the stage 3 was called

scarlet spindle
scarlet spindle
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something about synergy balance

turbid osprey
west plume
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omg,i just spent 45 Min thinking iam a god in Gauntlet,only to see no Points added to my rank...switching from Levithan to Normal switches it to casual....

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i Blame Rich for this one

fringe zephyr
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4/8 levi come come faster last 10 minute guys

vivid stirrup
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lets go lads! one last

fringe zephyr
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5\8 come come guys

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<@&1400508814910029907> come on

viral marsh
vivid stirrup
fringe zephyr
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pls guys 6\8 come come

viral marsh
fringe zephyr
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why you think so

vivid stirrup
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better safe than sorry, there might be a lot games still completing

fringe zephyr
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maybe now someone jump jump

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6/8 guys

lilac stag
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is it over?

fringe zephyr
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BG 12 min in search no game

viral marsh
fringe zephyr
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1 times my search was bagged and i can`t found the game . i saw 1/8 always need to restart game . i shocked

fringe zephyr
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it can be changing

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okey , but thanks all for game, it was interesting

viral marsh
fringe zephyr
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oh thanks , maybe )

ashen mango
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@frozen tartan the boss with 36 points ๐Ÿ˜Ž

latent lake
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<@&1400508814910029907> 3/8

tropic forge
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Do we know if the games are counting? @zenith mortar seems Discord colapsed for a while

violet summit
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we are back

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I dont get it how 2 guys can have 160+ games in 10 days

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@arctic steppe @viral marsh you guys should slow down, take care of your health!! Atlas_Love

zenith mortar
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Its game data

ocean geyser
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is there any other sheet like the first sit and go?

cursive echo
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@zenith mortar bug ?

ebon aspen
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Leviathan 4/8

cursive echo
zenith mortar
ebon aspen
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Lev 5/8

bronze spire
ebon aspen
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6/8 LEv

cursive echo
cursive echo
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@bronze spire READY

latent lake
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<@&1400508814910029907> 6/8

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7/8

scarlet spindle
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Done!

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Just in time haha

cursive echo
bronze spire
warm isle
tropic forge
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Leaderboard? That one is old.

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is there any way to check actual leaderboard?

sharp socket
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@ins0m

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@west musk

hardy scroll
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How many schoolchildren do the Iluvials collect for you?
schoolchildren need more time for studying, not grinding

@arctic steppe

lime cloak
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Borrowed this from the TGG Discord...
Tempest Leviathan Tournament - final standing from the 2 x Sit&Go

summer frigate
safe valve
winter breach
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@safe valve after losing and going out to the menu, the game goes into reconnecting mode on itself and gets stuck on loading. Known issue?

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Any solution?

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Restarting game won't do, it does the same

ashen mango
viral marsh
ashen mango
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I have the impression that I'm always asking for reshuffles

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But group 4 is different than other groups

safe valve
viral marsh
safe valve
ashen mango
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Good point

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I'm fine then ๐Ÿ˜„

safe valve
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maybe not the only one if that group stays ๐Ÿ™ƒ

viral marsh
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probably 2 more will play rog. but i don't know what they play in levi

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night qualifications seems like joke.
how people with 8-12 points in main event? when at evening it was hard fight with 20+ points

winter breach
ashen mango
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I think that Zadkiel is not playing so we will probably replace him with a backup

safe valve
viral marsh
winter breach
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And the game should be over by now as well

safe valve
viral marsh
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like, someone play 4-5-6-5 and got invited over 4-4-4-4-4-4

safe valve
winter breach
safe valve
winter breach
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thanks appreciate it

frozen tartan
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Have a good morning guys Illuvium_Logo

dark scaffold
fringe zephyr
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Some one want play ?
<@&1400508814910029907>

ashen mango
lunar dragon
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Im just about going to sleep

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see ya

fringe zephyr
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okey, maybe in 2-3 hours i will try make a party)

winter breach
dark scaffold
winter breach
winter breach
west plume
winter breach
west plume
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And know I did aswell๐Ÿ˜ฌ

winter breach
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Should i close my ticket or write them back its fixed?

dark scaffold
winter breach
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Good ๐Ÿ™‚

dark scaffold
vivid stirrup
west plume
frozen tartan
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<@&1400508814910029907> 1/8 Leviathan

ashen mango
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The best 18 stat point distribution one could dream of ๐Ÿ˜Ž

fringe zephyr
fringe zephyr
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xD

ashen mango
frozen tartan
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I canceled the search

ashen mango
fringe zephyr
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guys go start at 12 UTC

ashen mango
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But we probably won't find a full lobby now

languid sparrow
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Anyone know how many hexagons are on the battle board width and height ? Just for fun ๐Ÿ˜ ?

vivid stirrup
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@gray rampart I sent you an offer for your Fern! ๐Ÿ™Œ

ashen mango
ashen mango
turbid osprey
languid sparrow
frozen tartan
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<@&1400508814910029907> Shall we meet in 20 minutes? Anyone interested?

languid sparrow
spring basin
safe valve
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would be ready in like 5 mins

frozen tartan
bitter cypress
frozen tartan
bitter cypress
bitter cypress
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Lol

mighty tulip
frozen tartan
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3/8

bitter cypress
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Pull up your socks because ill be playing this one

bitter cypress
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Lol

cursive echo
safe valve
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<@&1400508814910029907> 4/8

frozen tartan
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5/8

safe valve
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7/8

scarlet spindle
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Well that was an utter waste of time lol

fringe zephyr
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w8 meeee

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.....

scarlet spindle
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I am good for a grinder, but I can't compete with a $25k deck lol

mighty tulip
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I'll take winning a late game round against @frozen tartan as a victory ๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ˜…. GG

frozen tartan
fringe zephyr
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are we playing more ?

frozen tartan
fringe zephyr
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i will play after 1 hour now i cannt sry

frozen tartan
hot pond
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what the fuck is causing just me from the lobby to not receive composite box? Is this some sort of handicap to be provided so random people can win?

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this is the third time that this happened to me now

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"esports ready game"

native mauve
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I had a game where I received 1 augments and and a color

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The other guy had 3 augments with 2 swift strike or something like that lol

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This was by round 3 I think

violet summit
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I notice that bots get more augments

native mauve
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Actually could be i don't remember haha was in the first leviathan match so yeah maybe a bot

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It's also weird how bots fill up so quickly in leviathan

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I was surprised how fast the lobby filled and eas like 3 bots

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Was

primal flax
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It's possible to add DIFFERENT composites for each player in this region that we receive the imprint in the start of the match plz? It's so stupid when comes 3 of the same

fringe zephyr
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someone want plays ? <@&1400508814910029907>

scarlet spindle
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I'll jump in when you get 5 or 6 in there

west plume
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I want a team builder for Levithan, where you set the team you want and what leveland Tpi for each, it connects to the illuvidex and pulls the price for them all.press buy all.

frozen tartan
fringe zephyr
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+1

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go reg guys

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Levi 2/8 come on

frozen tartan
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@fringe zephyr Unfortunately, there are too few people interested. Weโ€™re just wasting time playing with botsโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ™

fringe zephyr
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yeah i will leave from search

frozen tartan
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@lime cloak

fringe zephyr
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<@&1400508814910029907> maybe someone want to train in levi before start ?

viral marsh
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is it survival?
any advice how kill this wave?

lime cloak
mellow star
frozen tartan
cursive echo
vivid stirrup
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What would you prefer for the second weekly sit&go qualifier window

1๏ธโƒฃ <t:1757707200:F> - <t:1757721600:F>

2๏ธโƒฃ <t:1757714400:F> - <t:1757728800:F>

3๏ธโƒฃ <t:1757721600:F> - <t:1757736000:F>

4๏ธโƒฃ <t:1757728800:F> - <t:1757743200:f>

vivid stirrup
safe valve
vivid stirrup
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which part you talking about

safe valve
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makes sense

broken crane
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I wanted to understand what the gas we spend to capture illuvium in the overworld is for, since we can't use it for events?

safe valve
scarlet spindle
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Standard ranked uses all the same cards as each other. Leviathan will use the base version if you don't own it, but will use your highest level one if you do own it. Stats and levels matter there.

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So if you spend fuel leveling up some good stats illuvials, you can then sell them for your money back, or maybe make some profit, or rent them out to other players through Polemos.io or just use them to win prize money in the tournaments.

tropic forge
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Imagine stealing my Harbinger imprint from Draft, losing and i still got 1st HAHAHAHA!!!
Pure Cinema Atlas_Yeah

tropic forge
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๐Ÿ˜†

west quartz
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does playing gauntlet levels up our owned illuvials for leviathan ? i realized yesterday my illuvials were super low level in leviathan while i thought they would have levelled up a bunch after playing them in gauntlet

zenith mortar
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Gm

zenith mortar
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not a lot though

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but there is also another screen coming

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that shows this

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its on testnet now

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it used to be there anyway

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but got dissappeared along the way

west quartz
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does it always level up my strongest illuvial ? or it the xp spead among all if i have the same in double/triple

west plume
zenith mortar
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its on testnet

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so once on main

west plume
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Oh really

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Also check my super important question in mod chat๐Ÿ‘€

cursive echo
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I have no chance

cursive echo
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I'm going to get eaten alive

west plume
cursive echo
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play rogue or 5 bulwark? I hesitate at the start of each game๐Ÿ˜…

west plume
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Or 4 Templar with Wildfire and a side of berserker

lime cloak
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All 4 groups looks pretty scary, to be honest Atlas_Dead

west plume
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Or just go with

west plume
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And don't come last

ebon flume
ocean geyser
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I was in front of !lion, theoretically I have priority in the reserve for substitution to enter, or does it have nothing to do with it?

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just to know, I don't have idea

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I think the organizer is busy right now, he probably doesn't see my message, and I don't know the rules either

zenith mortar
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for leviathan touranmetn ?

ocean geyser
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yeap

zenith mortar
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Checking if they need backups

ocean geyser
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yeap, cause Lion enter in group 4, it have 1 missing guy

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I asked him in portuguese, but I think he is busy and can't see now, don't know the rules either so I ask here just to know

cursive echo
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@viral marsh you didn't change your outfit

viral marsh
ocean geyser
zenith mortar
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technically the other sit and go has more points for backups

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so it should be from those runner ups

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these all have more points than youre sit and go

ocean geyser
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Hmmm ok

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let it go, I would not fight for that, it's already started

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my point was if I have priority in front what I sent, cause !lion it's playing

charred matrix
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is there a spreadsheet where we can check IPL points leaderboard?

cursive echo
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@vivid stirrup I had so much gold waiting......

vivid stirrup
vivid stirrup
charred matrix
# vivid stirrup the overhauled IPL scoreboard should be out soon

i'm putting together a success case article here.
here at OLA, we've been putting so many players into the IPL qualifiers, half of them usually go to semi-finals and finals... with Narkesh winning the last one.

would love to see the overall scoreboard so far, pretty sure our guys are doing pretty good ๐Ÿ˜„

carmine obsidian
safe valve
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everything

zenith mortar
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the touranemtn earleri

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or right now

drowsy fossil
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Hi @zenith mortar , I was wondering if there is a date for last week's raffle?

zenith mortar
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So he only drew the 1st place person as there was a miscommunication on my part

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he will draw the other 4 winners this week

arctic steppe
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Last time there was a mistake with the roulette, the 5 winners had their rewards rolled back and received a Disk instead

zenith mortar
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ah

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i thought it was correct

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wheel

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ok well if thats the case maybe we have to do the whole thing

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ill go check the stream

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i havent had time yet

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sorry guys

arctic steppe
zenith mortar
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datakingz will be back this weekend

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so good news there

ember sail
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what is that

twilit storm
twilit storm
ember sail
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oh ok

fluid raptor
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although it is 4 hours, last games lasts for about 35-40 mins overtime

ashen mango
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@bronze spire takes the win boys
Congrats mate!

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I just realized that Web3 was playing early in the morning for his timezone

vivid stirrup
frozen tartan
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@bronze spire Congrats! ๐Ÿ†

violet summit
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is this a bug? no behemoth anywhere

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only 3 composites, yet no steam

twilit storm
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1 composite unit doesn t work very well eh

violet summit
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it happened twice in the same game

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couldn't get the composite I wanted

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even though I only had 3 active composites

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some random shit appeared

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arcanite after

safe valve
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Had that a couple Times aswell

tropic forge
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iยดve had this issue before like a lot, donยดt know if itยดs a bug. Right now every time thereยดs a PVE round i try to leave 5+ spaces in the bench to put my whole team because game is giving like any unit related augment that u have on board.
Once i had a Tiru and gave me shock, so i just leave my Ranger and the unit with the synergy i want on board

viral marsh
viral marsh
safe valve
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To play the game you need to have a good apm

viral marsh
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it's hard for late rounds, when don't have space on bench. or have HP for 1 round, and have replace 5 units on bench>and back, and put 12 augments
so i sometimes hurry, and lose coz got wrong composite. it's harder that just take revenant. need to think and move fast.
probably in patch in will be simplier, when you can move augments faster

warm isle
violet summit
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got it, thanks for the feedback

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can you imagine I lost the round?

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holy sht game

blazing helm
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This week is ipl 500 right? Is there also sit and go for this and how many spots?

latent lake
twilit storm
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actually the IPL1000 is no more like that

twilit storm
bronze spire
fluid raptor
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4 hours later the second one ends

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why have we vote then? XD

fluid raptor
fluid raptor
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who won what by what

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it would have been great to learn every event from a single announcement channel

bronze spire
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weekly

fluid raptor
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gz btw

bronze spire
fallen vortex
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Wait what, actually?

fluid raptor
fluid raptor
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damn rogues

fallen vortex
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I must have missed it

fluid raptor
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XD

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probably he is just kidding ๐Ÿ˜›

fallen vortex
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Got no idea lol

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Not sure if anything else still has stacks. But I like simplifying systems like these so u dont need to go to wikis to understand game mechanics n stuff

primal flax
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Nice I lost 15 pdl because I didn't received a composite box that the rest of the lobby received normally, fkn bugs ๐Ÿ˜ค

jolly whale
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Are session times available yet for the IPL500 this weekend @zenith mortar

ivory saddle
jolly whale
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Jezuz.... we need to get rid of composites on the carousel... either that or make them all composites.

Really sucks when you winning a lobby and a bottom or mid guy gets an extra composite and destroys everyone based just on pure luck

lusty bridge
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Thats why its a catchup mechanic

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I need that ๐Ÿ™‚

hot pond
jolly whale
jolly whale
hot pond
bronze spire
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would make for some interesting choices

zenith mortar
west plume
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Fourth Composite Aug<Rich

vivid stirrup
# fluid raptor why have we vote then? XD

Most of the votes came from EU players. This 2nd timeslot is 100% focused on US players. A vote like this is never the final deciderโ€”itโ€™s just extra information. This particular vote was a bad call on my part; doing it during EU peak times basically guaranteed this outcome. ๐Ÿ˜„

vivid stirrup
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Hey Gamers, there will be more official announcements coming soon, but I wanted to float the โ€œIPL Bibleโ€ weโ€™ve been working on.

This is meant to be a bulletproof Rulesheetโ€”covering any situation that might come up around the IPLโ€”and it should also serve as a guideline for other tournaments.

Please note: weโ€™re constantly improving the IPL. This isnโ€™t written in stone for the rest of the year. Weโ€™ll keep improving, iterating, and working toward an even better Season 2.

I hope you understand why we fixed all IPL points retroactively with a cohesive system. The focus is on rewarding 100% of the qualified players and keeping the structure consistent across tournaments.
Some points will be different from the old system, but the new one should be overall more fair, with rewards distributed in a more consistent way.

Please keep the feedback comingโ€”weโ€™ll continue polling you as well. For example, right now weโ€™re trying to improve the Sit & Go experience. The best option so far is a 12-hour window where your best 6 games count. LMK what you think!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m04tCz62DY5Z6eoANCWMPdEHB3_Lrh0uz6JuF2nvkEU/edit?usp=sharing

ashen mango
vivid stirrup
native mauve
ashen mango
vivid stirrup
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We might lower this number after trying it out and seeing how much we need. Right now it's much designed after giving illuvium all the possible tools for onboarding. Like inviting big streamers. I hope you understand.

native mauve
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Sure i gues if they can get big streamers to grow the game then that makes sense, that should be the priority

bronze spire
languid sparrow
vivid stirrup
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Also another disclaimer: I screwed up the Raffle Draw last week, I didn't put in the weights and we are going to do a full redraw this weekend.

ashen mango
# vivid stirrup Hey Gamers, there will be more official announcements coming soon, but I wanted ...

What does it mean specifically?

Let's imagine this scenario where we are only 3 players remaining:

  • I'm playing earth
  • My opponent is playing nature
  • The 3rd player is playing air

If I kill my opponent they won't beat the air player and I'm sure that I will end up 2nd

However I have a lot of HP and I can afford to lose on purpose so that the nature player beats the air one that I cannot beat

So the best move to maximize my expected placement is to lose this round on purpose

Is it allowed in the rules? It's not self-destruction

pure sky
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what r the hotkeys to see opp board and comeback to my board + switch illuvial in and out fastly just like in TFT? I cant find it

bronze spire
ashen mango
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Recently I've been playing "Who has the weakest board with the worse positioning" with some tournament players ๐Ÿ˜‚

vivid stirrup
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Intentionally losing is meant more in the broader sense of throwing the whole game, not in the sense of deliberately dropping a single round as part of a tactic. Iโ€™ll work on making this description clearer and more precise.

ashen mango
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Turns out that I'm an amazing loser ๐Ÿ˜Ž

vivid stirrup
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For example throwing a round to get a better position in the Stage 2 Draft carousel is definitely good ๐Ÿ˜„

ashen mango
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That's a big relief

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This scenario won't come up often but it's good if there is 100% clarity on the matter ๐Ÿ˜„

vivid stirrup
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Good catch tho that this might be misinterpreted, thank you!

jolly whale
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Was there an update? I keep getting booted out of the gauntlet que? Happening pretty regularly and I havnt seen that happen at all before

arctic steppe
vivid stirrup
twilit storm
arctic steppe
low comet
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best game ever @bronze spire @plucky dove

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+24 hahahaha

bronze spire
low comet
cursive echo
west plume
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๐Ÿ‘€

vivid stirrup
# vivid stirrup Hey Gamers, there will be more official announcements coming soon, but I wanted ...

We have made several adjustments to the Rulesheet:

  • Improved clarity and explanation regarding Wildcard spots
  • Refined wording in the "Fair Play & Integrity" section
  • Added a note to the "Disconnect Policy" for better clarity
  • Linked the "IPL Code of Conduct โ€“ Punishment Guidelines" to the Penalties section to provide clearer rules and an official baseline
  • Adjusted IPL Points to reflect one incident involving a penalty

Thank you for your feedback and please keep it coming! Atlas_Love

latent osprey
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btw

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why did you guys changed past ipl points?

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i like the new point system BUT WHY remove points from ppl in the past how is that fair

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like lets say im on semifinal and i greed for a composition because lets say i get rank 6 game 1 which means i need top 3 or more to pass to final and i finish badly because it didnt work but the ipl points is fine because it WAS STATED before the tournament that if you drop at top 32-17 you get x points and if you drop at 16-9 Y , and now you change past scoring ? @vivid stirrup how is that fair for competitive integrity for everyone that played in the past tournaments? i agreed with new point system but shouldnt change ppl's past points but change in the future.

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on official announcement

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then you guys change system and punish players that lets say greed for qualifying like the example i gave

low comet
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pretty sure this is a smurf acc hahaha not a single asset in this acc.

cursive echo
low comet
viral marsh
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he play mostly meta builds, and seems know game. meet other 3-4 "new names" who know how build 4 revenant/all other builds, and pick augs like pro, then i check games of this guys - and yes, they play 10-15 games total

frozen tartan
rancid yacht
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Hey guys, can I get access to the testnet?

west plume
zenith mortar
vivid stirrup
# latent osprey like lets say im on semifinal and i greed for a composition because lets say i ...

I understand what you mean, and Iโ€™m sorry you lost points with the overhaul. There are, sadly, some downsides to reworking the old system. We (Council & Organisers) decided the pros outweigh the cons.

The new system is more straightforward. Under the old one, we would have had three different point distributions for 250s and two for 500s. We also had the issue that in past 500s, placements 33โ€“64 received no points. Some players might find it unfair that they got 0 points for 33rd in an IPL 500 while others now get 2 points for the same placement.

It always sucks to make retroactive changes, and we would have liked to avoid it. But I believe a cohesive, consistent system across every 250, 500, and 1000โ€”and one thatโ€™s easy to understand, especially for newcomersโ€”outweighs the downsides overall.

latent osprey
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keep the new points TO THE NEXT TOURNAMENTS

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i agreed with the new systeme

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but my friend got punished for trying to force a comp to pass

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instead of playing something that is consistent for better rank

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he risked his placement to get rank 1 to pass

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how is fair changing points middle way in ?

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change the points for the next tournaments

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not from the past

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wtf is this

vivid stirrup
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Another upside of the new system is that itโ€™s easier to implement and maintain on the backend (e.g., homepage leaderboards).

No player who had points before the change was reduced to zero. Some placements now earn fewer points than before, but the distribution is now consistent across all tournaments rather than having multiple versions per tournament format. It also incentivizes players to keep competing: 100% of qualified players now received points, so many who previously got 0 despite making the main event now have a fewโ€”which is good for our player numbers and, I think, fair overall.

I understand your frustration, and Iโ€™m sorry about the adjustments. Some players did have a few points deducted.

Weโ€™ll do our utmost to avoid making retroactive changes like this again.

tender drift
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noone plays leviathan mode i have 10 mins on qeue

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??

lean ivy
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Anyone else want to play test net?

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We are in casual now

lime cloak
# vivid stirrup Another upside of the new system is that itโ€™s easier to implement and maintain o...

I do agree on the revised system and points, that makes perfect sense, and looks to be better.
But also have to agree. It feels bad to have points suddenly deducted. I am not entirely sure if that was needed, and it's probably not going to matter that much in the end, to be honest... But the points for the first IPL250 was originally:
1st Place (Champion): 50 points
2nd Place: 35 points
3rdโ€“4th (Semi-Finalists): 25 points each
5thโ€“8th (Quarter-Finalists): 15 points each
9thโ€“16th (Round 2 Eliminations): 8 points each
17thโ€“32nd (Round 1 Eliminations): 3 points each

So it dose look like **most **lost some points, that was originally awarded...

Could also have left them as "bonus" for being in the first IPL. Anyway... if that's the decision, then "it is what it is". learned to accept that things can easily be changed. ๐Ÿ˜’

vivid stirrup
# lime cloak I do agree on the revised system and points, that makes perfect sense, and looks...

Yeah we removed the different points distribution for the first IPL 250. Now all 250 have the exact same points for all 32 Players.

That means that those 32 Players lost a few points overall.

But on the Flip side 32 Players gained Points for the first IPL 500 which I think is a good thing, specially seeing that all future 64 players in the IPL 500 will receive points.
40th Place in one IPL 500 should reward the same points as 40th place in another IPL 500 I think.

Again totally understandable for people to dislike the change, but hopefully the upsides of the overhauled system will be worth it in the long run.
In any case, we are learning for season 2 where there will be one cohesive distribution in place before the first tournament, so hopefully this is a one time thing. ๐Ÿ™‚

lime cloak
# vivid stirrup Yeah we removed the different points distribution for the first IPL 250. Now all...

Those 32 people who lost points are obviously not happy, and it doesn't make it any better that other 32 people gained points. if you are not one of them, I can see it doesn't matter that much.
(not just referring to myself... but if you was 16. place you originally had 8 points, and now you got 2 instead)
anyway, not going to spend any more time on that, just take it as feedback, and I hope we learn from it, since it don't seems very "Pro" to change stuff like points after a few weeks.

tender drift
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how do i know if my illuvials gain exp on leviathan mode?

lime cloak
languid sparrow
lime cloak
gilded axle
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In the meantime, the only thing I want is for the tournament schedules to be released a little earlier.

vivid stirrup
# vivid stirrup We have made several adjustments to the Rulesheet: - Improved clarity and expla...

A new update (V5) has been pushed to the Rulesheet, focused on fixing and improving the Prize Pools.

  • Some numbers didnโ€™t add up before and were too high, but they should now all have the correct values and percentages.
  • This resulted into the prize pool being spread too thin for the IPL 250 and 500.
  • With the improved distribution, weโ€™re still keeping the 100% โ€œin the moneyโ€ structure for the World Finals and IPL 1000.
  • This works well since now 100% of players receive IPL Points. That means getting last place in an IPL 500, for example, wonโ€™t give you a few of bucks anymoreโ€”but it will give you IPL Points, so you donโ€™t go home empty-handed.

Overall, this structure increases the incentive for our main target audienceโ€”the sweaty grindersโ€”while still keeping the bigger tournaments as a meaningful goal for the more casual audience.

vivid stirrup
gilded axle
gilded axle
vivid stirrup
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Me fallo portuguese un pocco

gilded axle
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haha !!

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Then I have nothing more to add. Haha!

lean ivy
vivid stirrup
vivid stirrup
gilded axle
vivid stirrup
frozen tartan
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Shardbluff location with the effect "The mythic peaks bestow their power early โ€” players start with a Legendary Augment Crate"

and

Abyssal Basin location with the effect "In the mire's reflection, your path becomes clear โ€” players start with a random Composite Imprint"

Are both effects currently available on the mainnet, or has one of them already been disabled?

fallen vortex
bronze spire
latent osprey
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so i guess it changed that too

bronze spire
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well this one had to be changed and was in the past

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agree it should have all be done and sorted earlier though

lusty bridge
viral marsh
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i think i lose, but then check reward for arena. ๐Ÿ™‚

arctic steppe
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i think u win by 2 points

viral marsh
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i'm surender as well(3rd place) when see you over 1 point. but it was at :00, so think i'm late

arctic steppe
arctic steppe
# twilit storm only 90 matches?

Sorry about that! Iโ€™ll admit I took a day off to watch some anime and another to go out for dinner, but I promise to hit 100+ games next week ๐Ÿ˜‚

twilit storm
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@ebon aspen

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conk3r won the match eeeaaaassily

ebon aspen
west quartz
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@umbral oracle the sitngo happens at 6 pm in most major European cities, thatโ€™s super early for people who work during weekdays. Did your data show more people participated in last weekโ€™s sit n go rather than when it was happening an hour later in previous ones ?

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Also I think thereโ€™s a typo in the announcement it says 44 spots for sitngo which would be 22 for each, not 24

zenith mortar
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Yes 22 each

sharp viper
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Can anyone participate in the sit&go?

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I have only played like 4 times, but thatโ€™s only because it takes about 40 min to get into the game. ๐Ÿ˜‚

native mauve
dark scaffold
vivid stirrup
vivid stirrup
ashen mango
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Are they content creators?

vivid stirrup
ashen mango
west quartz
vivid stirrup
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Good catch

west quartz
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Playing until 2 on a Friday night seems easier than having to ditch work to start playing at 6 on a Friday afternoon ๐Ÿ˜‚

vivid stirrup
drowsy oriole
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@zenith mist the game started already , reconnect bro

blazing helm
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where can i see upcoming sit and go? i dont see them anywhere on the site

dark scaffold
zenith mist
west plume
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๐Ÿ‘€

drowsy oriole
amber ether
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was there a patch today?

west plume
amber ether
blazing helm
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wait will patch be before ipl 500 ?

ashen mango
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Would it be possible to try removing the ranger from gauntlet to see if it was a good direction?
I wonder if it makes the game more fun so if it's simple to do like simply deactivating a part of the code it would be worth giving it a try

ashen mango
ashen mango
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Or it may need some change

open ibex
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but removing ranger limits so many possible comp
yes maybe some change needed

ashen mango
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The number of different S1 illuvials in the pool lowers diversity so it may be a terrible idea to remove the ranger, I think that it's extremely unlikely that they do it but it's worth raising the question of whether the ranger makes the game more fun or not

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Try to remember when we didn't have the ranger @open ibex
No weapon, no weapon amplifier, no suit amplifier, no ranger unit, no bonding
The game was so much simpler and the skill floor was so much lower

The ideal is to have a high skill ceiling with a low skill floor, right now both are high and the ranger makes a big difference

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Another idea would be to remove 1 illuvial on our board and start with a stronger ranger that naturally gets stronger throughout the game and maybe you can only re bound once every pve round

The idea is to lower the skill floor

blazing helm
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in my opninion this ranger mechanic makes illuvium fun

ashen mango
blazing helm
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only thing is like the weapon system idk kinda weird at round 2 u already decide what comp u going

blazing helm
ashen mango
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I'm not saying that the ranger is bad, it's the complexity that comes with it that is

wintry geode
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Another idea would be to have the ranger removed on a specific region

ashen mango
blazing helm
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nah not really

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u dont make a whole other game in 1 region

ashen mango
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It would be perfect to test whether it's more fun without

blazing helm
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tbh i cant speak without but getting composites without ranger is impossible no?

ashen mango
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Suggestion for Crystal Shore "The ranger is lost, only their illuvials can fight" @worn tree

native mauve
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Defo more fun with ranger for me but Sota can test on testnet if want

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I can't wait until they let us move augments that will be a game changer

blazing helm
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thats saves so many clicks if works good

native mauve
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Yes probably next week

wintry geode
blazing helm
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yeah but like now u can if u hit a early 2 star of something say dust u can play early game for the 2 dust

ashen mango
blazing helm
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imo only weird thing is that the weapon what decides ur comp is picked at round 2

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no idea how they would change it though

ashen mango
wintry geode
plucky dove
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will be any patch before ipl?

west quartz
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also it allows to hit full composite synergies which feels very satisfying imo

ashen mango
ashen mango
sharp socket
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Hey guys

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Someone has the monarch discord

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Let's make a video

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And I would like to talk to them

ashen mango
frozen tartan
hot pond
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omg its happening

mighty tulip
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That phantom untargetable sounds gross ๐Ÿ˜…

safe valve
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umbre with phantom emblem?

violet summit
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maybe this will compensate the lack of omega crit
Omega Gain on Crit: 1/3/5 โ†’ 6/8/10

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just give him crit augments and OP will increase faster than invokers

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this sounds interesting! New: On Omega, Water units gain 8 Omega Power.

scarlet spindle
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Removing the ranger is an absolute no. The ranger is key. I have played with and without ranger, with and without bonding. Having the ranger and the bonding is the only way to go.

latent osprey
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the ranger is what makes illuvium illuvium

sharp viper
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Anyone up for a game?

severe steeple
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why we dont change the name of arena to revenant fighting ground?

sharp viper
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๐Ÿ™ 30 min of waiting, one more player ๐Ÿฅฒ

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๐Ÿ™

ashen mango
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We could also remove live positioning in 1 region to see how it goes and fight against opponents that we won't know in advance except in the final 1v1 where live positioning makes the most sense

ocean geyser
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So @zenith mortar the draw will happen or any news about it?

zenith mortar
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yes

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redraw this weekend

ocean geyser
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nice, do you know day and time already or not yet?

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saturday right, will stay on โค๏ธ

vivid stirrup
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This time we do it right! ๐Ÿ˜„

fallen vortex
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Great change to water and the phantom change seems interesting.

Rhamphyre basically guaranteed untargettable after an Omega.

rare meteor
ocean geyser
ashen mango
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๐Ÿ‘€

umbral oracle
jolly whale
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Soooo we all ready to loose a weekends worth of sleep trying to qualify this weekend ๐Ÿ˜†

umbral oracle
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Just be thankful you donโ€™t have to play at 3am to try and qualify

jolly whale
umbral oracle
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Australians are the sacrificial lambs

jolly whale
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Guess I'm gonna piss the misses off again this weekend lol

jolly whale
supple beacon
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At some point we will have enough player base to have 2 different servers๐Ÿ˜‚

umbral oracle
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Sorry, i wont be tolerating that ๐Ÿ™‚

charred matrix
# umbral oracle We are going grass-roots guerrilla style now, creators that fully dedicate a cha...

let's do some instagram reels, tiktok and specially youtube shorts... we need to pump youtube shorts.
u know why?

whats the first thing you do when u hear about a new game?
either google or youtube it, right?

we need to massively populate these other media channels, to improve SEO and discoverability.
streams are great for instant connection and interaction, but once the stream is off... the content vanishes, nobody cares to check out past streams vod.

i've already discussed this with Tarren ๐Ÿ™‚

bronze spire
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@arctic steppe haha ty ๐Ÿ˜„

arctic steppe
bronze spire
lunar dragon
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I always start winning and as the game progresses I lose more and more. I still don't fully understand the arena mechanics.

lunar dragon
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3 more for arena guys

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If arena starts let me now. Im making a snack

bronze spire
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its usually either not playing good end game /meta comp or using gold to level too early or reroll too early (almost always save all your gold till after round 12 pve, other than 4 xp to get lvl 4 early)

jolly whale
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@umbral oracle we need a way I can spectate games from my phone!

umbral oracle
fallen vortex
fallen vortex
hot pond
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You can also high roll like some people hitting revenant chip in abyssal region and finding a slashin on level 6

south geyser
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Okay, so, I know I'm gonna get called out for being mad because I lost, but really...I don't think umbre would be such a problem if it weren't for how buggy the untargetability feels....He comes back and attacks for like a full two seconds before your own units realize they have a job to do. They just sit there letting him generate half an energy bar before hitting the little...you get the idea

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It's just kind of telling when you obliterate an entire team only to have that ONE problem unit 1v8 because it was all an all items are legendaries game

hot pond
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Granted umbre can be annoying/strong but he needs quite the set up with right augments plus omni vamp / combat rhythm drone to be like that. I speak from experience playing umbre for dozens of matches

south geyser
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At least penguin can be targeted, though you're right penguin is strong no matter what you do

hot pond
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If you just miss one part he is lackluster and dies to almost anything

south geyser
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Yeah, times respite making him unstunnable for my behemoth comp was pretty much gg

hot pond
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And he is also super contested with rogue meta so hard to find S3

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Even though the rogue team doesnโ€™t really need him other than just being another rogue. Pretty sad that the steam teams suffer from that

south geyser
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I don't know though...maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't think any unit should have a ceiling so high that they can literally solo the whole lobby

hot pond
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Behemoths used to be that way until they nerfed it to the ground

south geyser
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I remember, lol

hot pond
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And they were kinda balanced because of how hard to get they are

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I lost with 4 behemoths against 4 rev because of infinite shields plus atk speed debuff. So dumb

south geyser
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Umbre is a t4, so it makes sense to me that he'd be strong. It just feels like maybe we should shy away from wholly uninteractive mechanics

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Dropping agro is fine, but going fully untargetable for 2 seconds is wild to me

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Nothing feels worse than watching your units stand still while they get beaten up

hot pond
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Yea true, but like I said this doesnโ€™t happen very frequently with umbre so there is high variance and not very consistent

south geyser
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Still though, it will be responsible for a non-zero number of people quitting after experiencing it

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Things that feel that bad should be really looked at for a game that wants to grow

hot pond
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I think itโ€™s a worse experience to die to some low stage rogues 90% of the games even if you have better higher stage units

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Itโ€™s especially messed up that 4-5 people in lobby can play the same comp with revs

south geyser
hot pond
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But maybe corners will have a better play against them with new patch when phantom canโ€™t crit anymore with rhamphite

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Because without the monarch, corners have a play even against 4 revs sometimes

native mauve
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xuser0x shows 1 of the games at all times

gloomy mural
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this tournament again without the patch yes?

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๐Ÿ™‚

south geyser
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Of course!

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We can't get enough of that riveting revenant gameplay

west plume
south geyser
gloomy mural
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this is competetive game that you want to build? xd

ember sail
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When does the patch with the battle pass come out? I can't wait to be able to level up my Iluvias

native mauve
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Hi team what is the correct time for 1st sit and go? Did it change is the one on the website correct? Or its wrong @vivid stirrup

vivid stirrup
south geyser
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5 rev players in this lobby, lol

vivid stirrup
# native mauve

should be all fixed on the homepage too, thanks for the catch

lilac stag
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so this 16 players are invited to tournament and dont need to play sit n go, right ?

ashen mango
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It feels good to be invited after grinding all the previous qualifiers ๐Ÿ˜

dark scaffold
ashen mango
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Not a big deal but I just made a tweet about it and people cannot see the font easily

dark scaffold
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will send it to the web ppl ๐Ÿซก

dark scaffold
ashen mango
dark scaffold
ashen mango
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Do anyone else have the dark font problem on the IPL leaderboard?

dark scaffold
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okok, they looking it to it ๐Ÿ™

drowsy oriole
low comet
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Is it confirmed that sit n Go 2 is easier

turbid osprey
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2 weekends ago i remember it was like 27 or 29 the threshold in the first one and 23 or 24 in the second one

blazing helm
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  • more people today so it should be even easier
west plume
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4 hours until
Sit N Go

low comet
low comet
blazing helm
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wym? like more people from sit and go to tournament 12 -> 22

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and the amount of participants will be the same probably so the required points will be less

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tournament itself will be harder

turbid osprey
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Now its first 6 games in the timeslot right?

trim wren
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Hey, what time is the sit and go today? 18:00 utc?

gilded idol
south geyser
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PLEASE remove low tier synergy imprints from the otherwise all legendary draft...really sucks to bump into one and get instantly screwed for it

trim wren
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tnx mate

fallen vortex
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If anyone needs meta help before qualifiers

limber totem
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2 houruntil sit&go ?

south geyser
ashen mango
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I love these AI artworks

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There's a lot of stuff to be done with them

mellow bolt
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Games been freezing in and out this morning crashed twice in the last two hours for me I donโ€™t know about anyone else

supple beacon
drowsy oriole
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what bug is this, every player get legendary augment and i dont๐Ÿ˜‚

mellow bolt
hybrid lodge
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how to join ipl pls

charred matrix
west plume
blazing helm
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We start in 10 minutes yes?

hybrid lodge
hoary plank
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To participate in the IPL 500, just start the match when it starts at 4 pm?
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west plume
fringe zephyr
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is it started ?

bright pine
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lfg

zenith mortar
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GOGOGOGO

south geyser
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Tea acquired....time to get absolutely slaughtered!

blazing helm
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Is it just top 6 games now or nothing changed?

supple beacon
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first 6 they said

south geyser
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One benefit of there being no patch though...having not played for a couple weeks has had almost no effect on my ability to play

sharp viper
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Does a player need have played 5 placement matches to get the ranked boarder to participate? I have done only 4 matches so far ๐Ÿ™ƒ

west plume
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Just play your little heart out for the next 4 hours

sharp viper
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I have been searching for opponents for some time but no luck

west plume
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Is your background glowing red?

supple beacon
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Yeah make sure you are not leviathan

sharp viper
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Yes sorry I was on leviathan lol thanks

vivid stirrup
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โšก Bonus Raffle: All participants in the Sit & Go Qualifiers will be entered into 3x raffles for a Perfect-Stat Illuvialโ€”worth $500 combined!

violet summit
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@vivid stirrup any minimum games required to enter the raffle?

vivid stirrup
south geyser
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Well, cursed games here...

blazing helm
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Oh no second game and I got a 5the

south geyser
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Hey, if I crash the round before I win, do I get some sort of leaver penalty, or am I still good?

ashen mango
ashen mango
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So can I qualify for this raffle even if I'm already qualified for the tournament?

south geyser
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Wait...the game just got deleted wtf?

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I just took a first place but crashed right before it resolved

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Guess I'll hope the site is just slow to update

vivid stirrup
twilit storm
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A friendly reminder to all players: if the RNG Gods aren't smiling on you in this Sit & Go, you'll have another chance to do better in the next one, starting in just a few hours.
Never give up.

blazing helm
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Yeah true worst case no sleep tonight

twilit storm
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2 hours mark reached for the Sit&go 1, another 2 hours of madness to go.

south geyser
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Took a while, but it did eventually update. My victory over Porklamb's trashtalk goes marked afterall

frank moon
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round 10 malura?

gloomy mural
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@hot pond

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dm

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@zenith mortar where I can find the sit&go?

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or is it bugged

ashen mango
gloomy mural
zenith mortar
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refersh\

gloomy mural
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but malura r10 even with this region is still huge

ashen mango
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So 11 Luras round 10

south geyser
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Looks like it's tonight's timeslot for me, boys....

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2 firsts, 2 eighths...

ashen mango
violet summit
south geyser
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Not usually, no. That's the frustrating part. I'm a 2nd place kinda guy usually

ashen mango