🎮〕illuvium-arena

[plucky dove]

rly?

thats awesome

[fallen vortex]

Abyssal is officially banned, if it appears, immediately remake the lobby

[ashen mango]

Good call thanks

[fallen vortex]

We will all need to work together on this

it will be a little messy

[ashen mango]

It won't appear that often

It shouldn't cause much trouble

[fallen vortex]

Maybe it wont appear at all

[drowsy oriole]

right, better ban crimson

i hate crimson

[fallen vortex]

Crimson makes everyone play different, thats a good thing imo 😛

[ashen mango]

Let's ban the regions that we don't like 🤝

[fallen vortex]

I like Crimson since I am quite aggressive

[drowsy oriole]

makes me 7th or 8th😴

[ashen mango]

If there's any left at the end

[fallen vortex]

Then u gotta adapt 😛

[plucky dove]

agreed

[latent osprey]

wen brackets

[plucky dove]

lobby 1 full

[zenith mortar]

@ashen mango we missing you

https://illuvilytics.web.app/tournaments?tournament=aws-1756274395905&tab=bracket

[plucky dove]

i dont agree

ncie call

[zenith mortar]

@blazing helm you good?

[blazing helm]

Jup no worries happens

[zenith mortar]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bJzZ94oDxQC3WGOjOLnT5d7BOC4sGRMXY-GE2glGC4A/edit?gid=0#gid=0

@bleak wave

its right here

[bleak wave]

Thanks @zenith mortar !!

[zenith mortar]

mind you council is still reviewing points strutcure with touranmetn organisers so they could shift the structure but no one would lose points

[bleak wave]

i dont see my name in it.. i did play in all sit n go tournaments.

[zenith mortar]

this isnt from sit and go

ipl points are for the people that make the main draw

[bleak wave]

oh

[zenith mortar]

the sit and go youll get prizes though

fuel likely

just havent distributed them yet

[bleak wave]

Np.. thanks for the info! you been doing a lot of hardwork...as always, great work! no skill issue there 😉

[fallen vortex]

Okay if there's anything we've learned. Penguin OP or healing augments OP.

I mean penguin 1v1 Tier 4 Jotun so easilyyyy

[tropic forge]

I wonder how people are playing if half of rounds you can´t see enemy repositioning. This is a gamebreaking bug, can´t count all rounds i´ve lost because of this. Literally i can´t see half of em, is it just me?

[ashen mango]

No it's the same for everyone as far as I know

[tropic forge]

So sad to play like this.

i just lost a 1st place couse i throw my slashin in the middle of all enemies.

[viral marsh]

nice you learn something about pengiun.
he scarry every lobby for 1.5month, and now you learn it

[violet summit]

who won the tournament?

[ashen mango]

The boss 😎

[violet summit]

can someone link the tournament page? can't find it, sorry

you got 2nd, nice

[tropic forge]

I hope with this last game u all realize comp chips on carrousel is the TRASHEST idea of em all

[ashen mango]

Do we have some info about the upcoming leviathan tournament?
I thought that it was planned for last week

[ivory saddle]

Endless cycle of reconnect > load > and back to this screen for me

I was able to reconnect on like the 15th try

returned with 200+ gold and managed to win with 1 hp 🤣

I would have given up if you didn't tell me you were able to reconnect to yours, thanks

same

[calm steeple]

same here, gave after third try

[west plume]

iam happy with this one

[ashen mango]

What happened? @bronze spire

I wonder if I should have prevented you from getting 5 magma but saving 6s seemed super strong

I couldn't put my Quinx too far though so your blazenite was stunning my Slashin

[bronze spire]

yea hard to tell think as long as i didnt let your rhampite one shot too many things i was ok, just took me a while to get positoning right haha

[bronze spire]

was close in the end too gg

yea in new game and fine

[twilit storm]

gm broken penguin' s lovers

[viral marsh]

unit pool just broken somehow.
if i build 1st T3 S3 unit, my opponent find 2nd one in any way. if my opponent build 1st T3 S3, i never find other untill he die.
same with tier 1 units. when i play any build in which i need tier1 stage3 - i can build it only if it's just 5 copy or less on opponent tabels (try build kukka, when it was only 8 in game - spend 80 gold, don't find it)
but when my opponent build it, even after i got tier1 stage 3 unit to contest, he still build 2nd.
when noone play chucco, sometimes i spend 80gold on lvl5 and find 5-6 chucco only.

sometimes you roll in lvl7-8 try find special tier-5 unit, which noone play and you get anything but not what you need.

after player eliminated, his units should got back into shop. sometimes they appear right in round he die, but sometime you can't find them (after spend 50-70 gold)

[fallen vortex]

No need to be rude. I know he's strong lol, he's been strong for a long ass time. I was just making a fun joke, please try to relax

I still think it's his synergy with augments rather than stats or Omega

The game simply has too much omnivamp in it tbh

[twilit storm]

@viral marsh check the date ser

[ashen mango]

Quite rare round 2

[viral marsh]

but you don't need them. next time pray for 3 slapin

[viral marsh]

fun joke? if you not play game - yes, it's looks like joke

[viral marsh]

it's not happend every time.
but shop strange sometimes. 1 of 10 games like broken.
sometimes for me - got rake at lvl5, turn 9 today, with just 2 rolls. then have 2 rake at lvl6 round 14, umbre at round 18.
sometimes for my opponent, who got T5S3 on lvl6 round 18-20

[twilit storm]

Sure..but wen an opponent with a s3 unit is knocked out..sometimes his units do not go back into the pool for no apparent reason

[viral marsh]

noone play fury in my current game, spend 60 gold round 20 got 2.
my opponent build umbre at same time

[twilit storm]

that s why I still think the pool/shop is not working as intended

like wen I was facing a guy with a Goliant at round 8

pretty weird

[viral marsh]

now, after 1 player with umbre eliminated, i find 5 phyri in 2 roll. ???

[bronze spire]

i do suspect this too, though its super hard to tell / test, given there is always outliers in RNG. Team seemed pretty confident there is no bug though

[twilit storm]

Yea but some players play 100 times the devs so...

[bronze spire]

ive also had many games 2 players left having 8 tier 4s (meaning 1 left). And we both never finish it even after all the left over rounds trying

like some of them its actually only a pool of 16 rather than 17

[bronze spire]

yea not sure anyones recorded a super obvious game that proves the bug. Ive played as much as anyone and wouldnt say with confidence there is even a bug

if there is its not common i think

[twilit storm]

you can t prove it

coz it happens randomly

[bronze spire]

yea lol

[viral marsh]

need turn-off button "RNG" by a bit.
1 game shop can give you 3 stage 2 unit you need untill round 6.
and in other game you got 0 stage 2 unit untill round 11, even you spend 10-12 gold for rols.
@ivory saddle got 7 or 8 archie in 1 game today before round 9. i'm sure he not roll for them.

[regal hound]

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-cute-duo-gif-16100257178994870216

[hot pond]

Once you hit the revenant chip you can almost go afk with that team

[viral marsh]

meet bot today. with 4 revenant, then he pick 5th. almost lose to him around round 18.
bot's can learn from us and use strategy?

i think if this bot play a bit more rogues(7) he can got top-4 or even top-1

i'd love play composit region. extra chance try something new

and my opponent with frost/predator look at my spore and smile

[hot pond]

4 spore is pretty good though

If you steal all the vermis from revenant teams that is

[regal hound]

Imagine all the corner comps when pengu is gone 😭

[hot pond]

pretty funny that (dust) revenant has been a problem almost since day 1 of 1v1 arena too. There revenant was triggering shields with each kill/assist and could snowball to infinite shields, now each crit granting shields. I wonder which is better

[regal hound]

Its their approachability as well, very easy to get, very nice nexus of powerful units. Incredible bang for buck

[viral marsh]

4 air in my lobby. build vermila only at round 27

[lime cloak]

indeed, it's very easy to get Revenant from 2x Stage2... could make it a bit harder by "swapping" Revenant and Spore on the Vermino/Vermilliare 🤔 at lest you would need 1xStage 3.... would make spore slightly more accessible, but then again, you need the T5 for that.

[zenith mortar]

I think I’m gonna compete next week

Show you nubs who the boss is

Gonna nerf penguin first

https://tenor.com/view/hold-holdmybeer-gif-27239469

Nerfing revenant too

actually

rogues only jump to middle of board now too

[viral marsh]

nerf which we expect: penguin omega revork(repair)/revenant x2 nerf.
nerf we will got: penguin omega nerf by 0.5%. revenant shields reduce by 5

btw, just noticed. can someone explain how he stack his crit amp?

[regal hound]

Rogue 7

[viral marsh]

any chance change mechanic, so 100% crit chance will be newer get?

[west quartz]

are we getting a patch before next tournament ?

[safe valve]

yes, next week we should get a patch

i hope corner builds stay somewhat valid because of the live positioning.
i'm too slow, so corner is the only viable option 😄

if every comp has it's corner killer would be really bad

[bronze spire]

yea, though might be a hot take but i think slashin kind of trash if phantom rhamphite didnt exist

not that slashin isnt the problem

[fallen vortex]

Yeah my theory has always been that evolved illuvials aren't calculating correctly. But I found another bug yesterday.

I had 60% odds for T0 and didn't get 1 in 10 rolls. Its factoring in the total pool of Illuvials before the odds for different tiers. This is giving a distorted view of the % of outcomes. So if tonnes of players have T0, the odds to find it aren't actually 60%. This is playing into your theory of round 8 Goliant as well, its not actually a 1% chance for T5 for example, its actually significantly higher.

I would personally like some transparency on these % for the Tiers since I'm convinced its innacurate.

[fallen vortex]

Rev chip + 7 rogue probably having an unintended effect.

[fallen vortex]

His Omega synergises better with Augments than any other Illuvial in the game. Scoriox is second (from obvious similarities) but doesn't have the synergies to gain shields as easy, so benefits from the Omnivamp/healing significantly less.

The reality is actually quite simple. Omnivamp is simply way too easy to stack in the game right now. Adding healing to your team is somewhat irrelevant since you can just stack so much self healing onto your entire team. Penguin can be killed, but not when he snowballs the healing augments. This means the penguin doesn't need an entire team to be successful and kinda breaks down half of the game.

Penguin hasn't changed much over the past months, but the access to omnivamp has only increased as things like drone augments and legendary augments got reworked and 3 Augments became an option. There is no longer a drawback to omnivamp in the game and it shows.

For example a drone Augment that grants omnivamp and reduces resistances could be pretty cool. Or preventing stacking in some way to reduce the output.

[bronze spire]

my point was his win rate would be trash if not for phantom rhamphite, despite how broken he is, he loses to corner without it giving him the initial kills. Kind of pointless me saying it though since slashin is 100% the problem

i dont mind the state of omni i think it makes things fun

its the rev shields that seem to be broken

the only maybe problematic illuvial with omni is umbre

[fallen vortex]

Defs the combination of the 2, but I'd rather nerf the omni over the shields.

The shields gives him time to ramp the omni

but u dont see anyone else gaining the time to ramp the omni in the same way

So I think his general bulk, and vanguard is helping too

[bronze spire]

might be right, i think the answer is to solve the 2 auto attack killing a T5S3 with collossus 5 BW

[fallen vortex]

But you'll also notice he doesnt work without going untargetable. Maybe thats where the problem lies

[fallen vortex]

Oh yeah all defensive Illuvials are useless in the endgame

Defensive Augments dont compare

They are fine, but in a 1v1 matchup to offensive augments, are practically worthless

[bronze spire]

this will also nerf omni for him since he wouldnt be healing as much off those crits

[fallen vortex]

Yeah Colossus is maybe the hardest composite to hit

And maybe the weakest

Kind of poetic tbh

Tsunami is the same 🤣

Revenant is maybe in top 3 easiest to hit, and one of the strongest

[bronze spire]

yea lol

[bronze spire]

yea think this also part of the probem, if harder to hit maybe wouldnt even need a nerf

[fallen vortex]

I could see a swap of Verminio to Spore being good

Or if Tiiruo was shock

that might be cool too

both T1's being shock at stage 3 is kinda odd to me

Goliant should be colossus

fix the easiness of granite

and difficulty of colossus

Those are the 2 big ones, after that u have removed all the stage 2 composites.

Except toxic

u create a stage 2 composite on shock, but maybe thats fine

With those 2 changes every single composite can be hit with the ranger and 1 stage 2 Illuvial.

And way less of the early game 3 composites

To fix the final one you could make greater monkier mud and ryplance toxic

Now U can hit mud with ranger and monkier

Last one is predator but not sure how U fix it since U can't swap the aegis on krunk. Maybe U swap slayer and predator between things, umbre becomes predator? That could work

[bronze spire]

geeyser carry lol

[fallen vortex]

I think that eliminates every stage 2 composite and makes life easier for the balance team @worn tree

[bronze spire]

ill catch up on this just in game

[bronze spire]

or have all of them able to have one that is accessed at stage 2

[fallen vortex]

I guess you could go the other way for sure. But Stage 3 Illuvials are locked behind later game systems. So then your T5 Stage 2s and your Stage 3 combos would start at about the same point, making it easier to balance

But I guess you'd always have a lower tier + ranger being available

[next flame]

Remember gang always play fair!

[worn tree]

We have a solution for that coming in the future 👍🏻 thx for the idea Scoriox!

[bronze spire]

yea thats true, personally like the feeling of getting composites at stage 2 even if it is harder to balance

[fallen vortex]

I'd be curious to hear what you have in mind.

Ohhhh thats hype, shit I need more Illuvials

[hot pond]

Dude if levelling illuvials would just be more fun then I would grind the shit out of that. It’s just so boring to do it right now

[worn tree]

Can't share any details yet 🙂

[hot pond]

So how much does it actually cost to level your shit to 60? Must be a fortune with the new fuel prices

The real question is whether a 4 revenant full crit penguin level 1 can still wreck everything 😂

Or level 40 I guess

[tropic forge]

Ez way : Instant Pay
Hard way: Has to be fun, slowER, and cheaper.

I guess fun could only be integrated with MMO, or perhaps they lv up a little by using em on Leviathan?

So many good ideas and feedback and i feel like we´re always aiming to the other side

[tropic forge]

im sure even lv 1 can do it. when i played the first levi tournament i had no Rhampite, and my default Rhampite lv1 provided by the game was melting with right augs 🤣 .
So yeah, we need to balance / fix those stats - lv so they matter.

[hot pond]

I mean I have grinded countless of hours in my mmos I have played because I just felt more sense of rewards or progression with items or rare drops or something. But here it just feels very dull to level up in order just to potentially „even up“ the playing field and still notice you will die against full 100 TPI max level.

[tropic forge]

well, lv40, but you know, 0 stats

[hot pond]

I have decent stats illuvials like TPI 80-95. but not focused on levels, so most of them are like 40 or so. I couldn’t do shit at one point, the difference was too huge. People were even levelling random S2 lynxes to 60 which was insane to me

Yea and I thought the games main income is from high stat illuvials because that’s the first thing I would look at

You have the poppy TPI colors and the hexagon, so many huge indicators of stats but then the little level indicator is actually the main indicator. Doesn’t make much sense

[viral marsh]

my game in live now. was on win streak/80+ hp
round not start, so i have restart game.
no button reconnect. wtf?

read my msg again

@gilded urchin did you finish previous game?

[gilded urchin]

nope

[gilded urchin]

check chat in game

[viral marsh]

i play full mute

[gilded urchin]

ok. the last game just froze

[fallen vortex]

Hmmmm I half disagree. I would like to level them myself if it was more fun and less of a chore. But a hybrid approach would be better imo. A fun way too do it and paying makes it faster. Eg buying the mushroomms

[hot pond]

There’s no time for anything else in life if you want to be in top 5 or so 😂

[blazing helm]

Guys when I get reward from tournament?

[blazing helm]

what are these reactions 🤣

[viral marsh]

winter is coming

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-hypothermia-gif-3574049

[safe valve]

haven't gotten one so far because i'm too bad, but i guess they are paid out with all other weekly rewards?

[warm isle]

I think rich will send them so it will take some time

[safe valve]

give me a sec, i try to get some general info about that topic

[twilit storm]

since wen in usdc?

[hot pond]

thought so too

[twilit storm]

so L1 or IMX, what s your guess?

[bronze spire]

i was told usd too think by @dull wind (sorry if wasnt you)

[west plume]

When we migrate to a a Zkevm chain we can have smartcontracts and just fund the smart contract to then claim rewards from

[dull wind]

all good, yeah tournament prizes are in USD, not sure on which token but I'm assuming USDC.

[vivid stirrup]

Pretty sure pay out will be via the Illuvidex feature like we have been doing in the past.

Will get confirmation on ILV/USDC. Is there heavy pushback for either or are we just happy to get it in any form that is easiest for labs?

[bronze spire]

what ever is easiest for them imo

[safe valve]

imlementing usdc on the rewards page + activating all options for tournament rewards is probably the most appreciated way for the community.
So people can choose themself what currency (ETH/ILV/USDC/Fuel) they want to get paid.

[dull wind]

we don't really do rewards in ETH though... Only revdis.

[safe valve]

doesn't need to be included necessarily...
But i feel ILV/USDC/Fuel should definetly be activated for those rewards.

even if 90% would claim in usdc... every fuel claimed instead is a win for the DAO 🙂

[proud acorn]

top players playing 11h a day wow

[viral marsh]

you sure they play 11 hour?

[warm isle]

It should be 16-20 hours

[rare meteor]

any news about when the patch is coming

[inner orbit]

Is the bug where you take something from the carousel and then its instantly gone already reported? I think you do get whatever augment it has but the illuvial is just gone

YEah just reported it, hopefully they fix that, thats a huge disadvantage if you got to pick a good S2 illuvial

Man this is full of bugs, now the other where you click find match and it turns you back and match is already started

[safe valve]

when i had the bench fuel when picking an s2 illuvial from the bench i also didn't got it.
However, i had one of that illuvial on stage 2 on the board and managed to build another s2 of that illuvial next round which immediately fused to a stage3 on the board.
So i guess you don't have the s2 on the bench, but if you need it for a s3 illuvial it is still somewhere arround to be used

[inner orbit]

Still thats a huge disadvange, you dont even have the chance to use that original S2, and maybe if you dont even plan to have it to S3 youre just screwed

[safe valve]

ya totally agree

[inner orbit]

But yeah theres been bugs for so long over here why do I even bother

[west plume]

"Everyone hated that"

[proud acorn]

i can do math. you have 80 games x 35 min game cuz top players almost every game top 2 and thats 2800 min / 60 = 46.6 h / 4.7 days since reset = 9.91 h a day

not counting waiting for games

so you are right they dont play 11 h

[warm isle]

How about queuing

Usually 5 mins or above

And sometimes map with high health

[pseudo phoenix]

Hello, who's up for a game of Leviathan?

[tropic forge]

yeah i just restarted the game

tought it was only me

is a game

reconnect Hollow

[vivid stirrup]

random survey for y'all if you don't mind.

if you hear IPL 500.

1️⃣ Do you think there will be 500 IPL points awarded in total to all players
2️⃣ Do you think there will be 500 IPL points awarded to first place
3️⃣ You don't have any expectation for how many IPL points an IPL 500 event might award

[summer frigate]

When Leviathan leaderboard rewards and exp for illuvials after finishing a game?

[bronze spire]

i thought it was just bigger money and no difference in points

[twilit storm]

@arctic steppe you are really unbeatable, just try to change team..sometimes... you know, could be fun 😉

The world has lot of animals beside the penguins and the anteaters

https://tenor.com/view/giraffe-animals-bored-hungry-chew-gif-17346615582284864728

[arctic steppe]

I also played a few other comps today, like 4 Shock and 6 Psions, but after 13 hours of grinding it’s hard to keep cooking too much 😂

[arctic steppe]

Already streamed 60 hours since the reset, Fox is giving me way too much work

[severe marten]

How can ordinary working class people with 8 hours per day 5 days of work per week to be able to compete in arena games if this game requires almost 11 hours per day to play to be in top 100 leaderboard?

[bronze spire]

just buy all the moths

[warm isle]

Haha counter rhamphite

[bronze spire]

exactly haha

[twilit storm]

It's just not possible. It's like buying a tennis racket to play on weekends for fun; you can enjoy the game, but you can't realistically compete against a professional like Sinner.

[turbid osprey]

Thats why the real competition is in tournaments

[twilit storm]

yeah indeed..lot of amateur players play the ATP, right? 👀

[bronze spire]

@worn tree aqua pistol stunning on his base omega intentional? nothing in the tool tip (without any weap upgrades)

[severe marten]

I think it would be fair if they balance arena leaderboard between the paid players (which normally people who has full time jobs) and non-paying players (people who just play games for living) should also be considered because paid players contributes to the economy while non-paying players attracts new players to try the game so I'm hoping leviathan leaderboard rewards and new upcoming overworld will solve this with IPL style regular daily tournaments because more than 11 hours of daily grinding to be on top 100 leaderboard will discouraged many working class paid players

[open ibex]

now we need fast eyes too

why change augment icon to hardly recognized similar icon...

[fallen vortex]

Don't need to be on the top 100 leaderboard to compete in the IPL

[fallen vortex]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

Bold strategy indeed 🤣

[severe marten]

That's great I wish there is IPL style tournament daily instead of the current weekly rewards leaderboard for arena gauntlet this will give some chance to working class paid players to be in top 100 leaderboard

[viral marsh]

9.91 or 11 hours/day sounds like dream

[viral marsh]

to be in top-100 need play just 3 hour/day

[fallen vortex]

I've been a big advocate for daily or even hourly automated tournaments and events, but it's a large amount of work for this sort of thing

Maybe one day

[severe marten]

That's the thing for most working class citizens sometimes they don't have luxury time to even play 3 hours a day. Most people with jobs only have 2 days off in a week and if we do have IPL style tournaments daily that can be beneficial for both people who has jobs and for full time gamers. The occasional players with jobs will have a chance to be in top 100 leaderboard that will keep them coming back when they get free time to play.

[viral marsh]

then enjoy game and don't care about top-100

[severe marten]

For now yes just playing for fun but for many people of course they also want to be in leaderboard rewards but for the current leaderboard rewards it only caters mostly to full time gamers

[viral marsh]

even for full time gamers, let's say top-5 - it's 50$/week for 14-16 hours you have play every day. is it worth?

[analog sandal]

noo 😭

why change this?

the current one is so good....

[severe marten]

It's totally not worth it that's why maybe we need to revise weekly leaderboard rewards and maybe make it daily IPL style tournament instead. I think this will keep players coming back to play tournaments

[severe marten]

If you are an average skilled player and you missed one or 2 days playing gauntlet for sure you will not make it to top 100 leaderboard so why continue playing if there is no chance for you to win in the leaderboard rewards

[viral marsh]

top-100-50 rewards = 5-10$?
if you skiled player, and even miss 2 week you can got into top-10 untill season end

[severe marten]

I don't know it feels like full time job with too much overtime the way you guys are playing to be number 1 in arena gauntlet leaderboard rewards. I just wish there are more days for IPL style tournaments with leaderboard rewards as well

[viral marsh]

better remove raffle then

[severe marten]

Raffle is ok maybe reduce the price amount for raffle and allocate to a better leaderboard rewards system, maybe remove the weekly leaderboard and make it to daily IPL style tournaments leaderboard rewards instead or maybe something better

[fallen vortex]

I think it'd definitely engage more people. However queues outside of the IPL time period could be a bit dead

[severe marten]

We just need a better reward system that doesn't feel like full time job doing too much overtime hours to be on top rank leaderboard rewards

[severe marten]

I think engage more people is better than only few same people competing eachother. Sometimes rewards don't even matter if there's more player's engagement specially if they see their names on top of leaderboard rewards and seeing different people making it to rank 1st daily

[open ibex]

either play in ranked or play in tournment, the only requirement is to play, what else u want? dont simply include "us"

[blazing helm]

What top u need to be to play in IPL?

And when is this week's IPL?

[severe marten]

I was just sharing my thoughts and suggestion that maybe it can increase player's engagement and retention

[dry delta]

Hey guys new here, apologies for the dumb questions in advance... but do the Illuviums in your inventory play a part in the arena? They don't right?

[west plume]

They play a big role in the Levithan mode, Casual Gauntlet not so much.

[worn tree]

Hey Web3Tv! Without any weap amplifiers, it shouldnt stun on omega.

[bronze spire]

roger im almost certain it is, only for maybe 0.1-0.5 secs, ill see if i can test it and record again

[west plume]

Levithan mode has the same gameplay as Normal gauntlet the biggest different is that the illuvials that show up in the shop are your own, where levels and stats matters.

[dry delta]

Ty appreciate it

[bronze spire]

dmd

[west plume]

There are 4 events coming up soon that will involve Levithan.

[mild raven]

I'm very new to the game, reminds me of DoTA Overlords

Only feedback I have right now is I wish there were a fast mode, like the difference between regular DoTA and DoTA Turbo. Games lake a long time to finish. A+ on the reconnect button though, that's really cool

Love the Arena though! It's fun

[viral marsh]

C- for reconnection. every 2nd game i got crit error/disconnect. and while you back in game, you skip 1 round/preparation phase.
most of time you lose round, coz can't reposition.
sometimes it's cost you higher place

with old reconnection you can back in game in 20 sec.
now you have click 3 times reconnect. got some errors that server full, or have to whait 10 second. so recconect take over minute now.

[lilac stag]

I also want to note that problems with game crashes are sometimes very annoying. When this happens at a tournament, I get very upset, but I understand that it is impossible to do RMK after each such crash of each player. Maybe there is an opportunity to add a pause to the game? At least for tournaments. If it were possible to pause for 1-2 minutes, players would always be able to reconnect and not lose anything due to technical problems

at tournaments yes, but it doesn't always help

[safe valve]

i have the same experience

[lilac stag]

by the way, i would like to ask here is there anyone else who encountered a bug that does not allow you to see the bench of your enemies if they have HOLO skins? I am already just fed up with this bug, I spend so much time to see who is on the bench of the enemy (I have to right click on each empty square to find out if there is someone there or not)

then I won't know what kind of illuvials you collect and I will contest you even if I don't want to

[west quartz]

any chance for next patch to make synergy box and composite box CLEARLY different color please ? 🙏

[bronze spire]

i like the augement selection change, is one of your issues it blocks your screen/board?

im assuming the item icons are just holders maybe haha

but if not...yea cant even tell the difference in the images

[viral marsh]

it's why i play on holo deck

[bronze spire]

actually looking again maybe it is final. Hopefully just one of those things where change feels weird until you get used to it

[violet summit]

@sinful hornet you took my winstreak

I hate you brro

4 invoker... still not enough

[frozen tartan]

@lilac stag @sinful hornet #1398262978469691455 message

[violet summit]

yeah lol

yes

I wish there was a composite for 4 granite

it was not the penguin that won the game

it was the rhamphyre

my positioning was bad

your rhamphyre just locked right into psions

instead of being blocked

I tried to block him in the corner

but that didn't work, he is too big 😄

yes you can 😊

atttacking a tank
although stucking can happen if you positioning everything into a corner, yes

if you placed every illuvial on the right side, some of them would be blocked without attacking, unless they are ranged

anyway, back to work

you took my winstreak, im mad

I dont like to play rogues when contested

4 invoker is fun though, gonna try it more times 😝

[umbral oracle]

There it is. The truth will set you free

[hollow citrus]

I approved it

yo Hollow learn to provide respectful feedback please, saltness not welcomed

[viral marsh]

seems they will nerf mud and up revenant rog, by reading msg higher

unlucky overdmg not count, probably we can see 30k by this unit in 1 hit

you sure? joke that current meta not killed 2 week ago, when shields get x3 nerfed

[dull wind]

if you guys want to provide feedback about the game balance I just created a thread for it so we can start having the information gathered there instead of being all over this chat:
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1412361093900271616

[viral marsh]

all our feedbacks here for 1.5 month already. with penguin 1 shot everything and all other things

[dull wind]

the team listens to you guys, so help them out. Don't just complain. Provide quality feedback.

[viral marsh]

team listen: "revenant nerf: shield got 50>45"
should rework mechanic.
why rog 7 got infinity scaling with crit amp.
but at same time: Psion - usseles 6 buff.
fighter - usseles 7 buff. 5% omnivamp or infinity scaling of dmg?
10 empath? impossible to build. when you build your whole team die from 1 uinit: pho/rhamphy/penguin

[dull wind]

and how would you tackle those problems? This is what would be nice to write in the thread. Everyone can point out the problems, but what we need more than anything is solutions.

[viral marsh]

as i say, should rework mechanic. most of them joke now.
half of them not work or super weak

[calm raven]

Yeah, that revenant mechanic should be reworked or just add a cooldown between procs. Each revenant can proc once every 4 seconds or smthing like that

[umbral oracle]

@jolly whale you ready?

[west plume]

👀

[umbral oracle]

9GEQ4M

If you want to join the grudge match

[west plume]

Kieran loading up Mud berserker?

[umbral oracle]

@viral marsh

@sinful hornet

[west plume]

Need someone to stream

[jolly whale]

@bronze spire

[umbral oracle]

@lilac stag

[jolly whale]

@noble geode

[lilac stag]

Hey i am here

[umbral oracle]

9GEQ4M

Join the battle of destiny

[worn tree]

The issue is omegas being able to crit. We are exploring different ways to make that less polarizing.

Pls tag me so that I see your message Hollow

[jolly whale]

9GEQ4M come take part in the dismantling of kieran

[lilac stag]

I have my first class of college this year in 45 minutes, but if this game includes prizes, I think I can skip my first day)

[bronze spire]

whats this for lol

[jolly whale]

Nevermind rescheduling in 2 hours!

[umbral oracle]

He was talking shit.

The dual is going down at 9:30pm AEST.

Anyone who gets into the match, if you can beat me ill give you 1 ILV

[bronze spire]

who was/

[worn tree]

Got it, will take a look at the data and adjust if rhamphy overperforms.

[jolly whale]

Is it shit talking if its true tho?

[bronze spire]

yea ive said this before i think slashin rev not very viable if phantom rhamphite crit ddidnt 1 shot 5 BWs. Not that peak slashin isnt broken i just think it would be rare enough to get their if not for rhamphite

but his also a T5 so not sure i think he needs a nerf. Its actually a nice counter to corner comps

prefer the slashin rev nerf

or phantom

yea guess i mean useful against late game corner meta

[frozen tartan]

How about playing a real Gauntlet? 👀 ||Leviathan ||

[blazing helm]

I don't understand rogues 😭

Thought with ramphyte 3star I would surely just win everything

[bronze spire]

did you have 3 star moth?

[blazing helm]

Yeah

4 phantom

[viral marsh]

4 phantom xDD

[bronze spire]

unlucky casts maybe

[blazing helm]

4 phantom bad?

Think was mistake

[bronze spire]

hmm not bad but not much better than 2

only really need it for rhamphyre crit omega

[viral marsh]

extra phantom, or extra vanguard/dust/revenant. your choice?

[blazing helm]

Revenant is broken

Really don't know the rest

Vanguard seems useless no?

[viral marsh]

then why you open phantom?

[bronze spire]

better than phatom most cases

[blazing helm]

I got phantom/vanguard/dust guess dust best?

Is like first time I play this rogue comp

[viral marsh]

you got this choice coz open box at full board

[blazing helm]

Wym?

[viral marsh]

vanguard still big up for slashin to kill bulwarks

[blazing helm]

Don't like the comp though

Any suggestions on what I can play?

[viral marsh]

you can get any synergy you need. you know about tailoring?

[blazing helm]

It's not tailored to your last fight?

[twilit storm]

no

[blazing helm]

Cause it def should be

I mean if it'd board u can get the thing u want

Always

That's bad

Yeah tailoring def needs to be there

But idk think last fight would be better

U are always gonna get something u want

[bronze spire]

you can still tailor if last fight but would need to throw the round lol

[viral marsh]

i agree it's should. you shouldn't just got 100% what you need

[blazing helm]

Yeah but that's a sacrifice

[umbral oracle]

Alright, alright, if you guys are forcing my hand I'll go and find the best comp again

[bronze spire]

right now its kind of sacrifice if not fast enough

[blazing helm]

Lol we all in lobby or what

[bronze spire]

im in game

[viral marsh]

ye, game not load. as ussualy

[frozen tartan]

🇱 🇪 🇻 🇮 🇦 🇹 🇭 🇦 🇳 🥂

[west quartz]

already been reworked, used to be on takedown gets 400 shield, which allowed rhamphyre to go unhinged casting again and again never dying

[west quartz]

is there somewher where us mortals could access the data aswell ? like getting average winrate/dmg per unit accross all games etc ?

[worn tree]

Not atm Style

[vivid stirrup]

Looking at Datakingz analytics section feels like cheating: https://illuvilytics.web.app/analytics/illuvials

It is still in a raw state (really needs pictures ^^) but definitely amazing to have these stats available for us mortals ^^

[safe valve]

either it loads bad on my end, or that data doesn't seem right/complete
Everything that performs really good not even on the list... scorpioin, penguin, pterodactyl etc.

[blazing helm]

Someone can explain 4 templar what is meant by both? And is it a good win con?

[umbral oracle]

Next Tuesday the series begins. I have been thinking about you

[frozen tartan]

Thank you, my friend.
By the way, there’s a Gauntlet tournament from Dreamers Esports today.
Come and fight!⚔️

[umbral oracle]

I know, its 5am tomorrow for me, im gonna try to make it

30 mins till game time.

I will update everyone with the code.

[arctic steppe]

yeah man, I’ve been streaming all my games on X, Kick, Twitch, and Abstract, that’s between 11 to 15 hours a day haha

[hot pond]

The slow atk speed is often the reason why fighters struggle against the rogues. Without that it would have also been more manageable

[arctic steppe]

So if you guys wanna follow, I’d really appreciate it, can find me everywhere as "NarebaCrypto" 🫡

[low comet]

this map is tough 2 players didnt get until pve roun 17

[umbral oracle]

mud

[native mauve]

and Nareba gets big views sometimes hundreds of people watching, probably the biggest Illuvium streamer right now, no one else get close. Mad respect for growing the Illuvium community

[arctic steppe]

i will grief all the muds 👀

[arctic steppe]

Thanks mate! I'm just getting started, but I plan to keep the streams consistent for anyone who wants to learn the game, especially since there aren’t many people doing this yet

[hot pond]

When I would play mud, half lobby would get the monkeys for Berserker and or mystic and I would have been wrecked. Hating those reroll comps with a passion

And then throw in a random dude going for full earth and you’re even more screwed

[tropic forge]

Token price likes this post

[umbral oracle]

I get minimum 3 mud every game. low cost roll comps are my specialty. But I bet there is another combo out there in this current meta

[low comet]

S2 grilla should be mud instead of predator because Chukoorl is already predator s2

[tropic forge]

yeah and big nerf to mud right?

we already had mudfest lol

[violet summit]

6 air with 4 shock, you should try it

[hot pond]

Yes it’s pretty crazy risk because you literally need all S3 units. Even though I just think that team is strong if you also have the S3 scorpion

[low comet]

just dont touch my greater monkier hahahaha

[hot pond]

And scorpion is always contested by @low comet

[tropic forge]

is so great to see that beast with berserker splashing guts. Reminds me of Sven on Dota 2 lol

[low comet]

HAHAHA yeah, although fighter berserker lineup is the weakest when 4 people are contesting for ryplance

[violet summit]

just want someone to tell me a comp that always beats 4 revenant and that stupid penguin

[low comet]

I only play him for buff. Unlike in ascendant before Monkier is the best carry hahahaha

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dota-dota2-chibi-gif-5159806

[umbral oracle]

I don't like positional comps. Rhamphyre and Ophisto too random

But, that was last patches comp for me. I played what everyone else is playing now as the meta lol

[tropic forge]

yeah many people playing that lately. I´ve been having these lobbies where i see 4 people taking the wind-fighter weapons and is so freaking hard to guess what kind of game they will do...even with rogue weapons taking my fancy scorpions. I love that build but contested lately. Funny how the meta changed from everybody going revenants to having 1-2 on every lobby, sometimes not even 1

[violet summit]

you don't play 6 air 4 shock in a corner if that's what you mean

[violet summit]

you can have 2 players with s3 ryplancer

[umbral oracle]

No you don't, but you gotta make sure your ophisto doesnt get pumped

and my internet is so shit I often dont see someone move until timer is up

[tropic forge]

yeah, but usually those 2 players are not me

[violet summit]

hehehe

[violet summit]

well ophisto is only of the shock units, if your other 3 units survive long enough, enemy is in big trouble

but I get it

[low comet]

Dont waste money on jotun, keep it as jokull so you have more to get ryplance hahahaha

[umbral oracle]

It wasn't until slicks told me that economy goes up to 70 that I realised. If you keep 70 gold then you can pretty much push whatever you want and get it (on lower end) Tier 4 and 5 is a bit harder

[tropic forge]

even if i roll at lv7 i just don´t get a full rypterus... i really have bad luck on RNG.
Yesterday i was on this really hard lobby, like 7 really strong players, and 3 were going air, i rolled all my gold (starting with 70 gold) for the true sight armor... guess what?
The armor never came and i discovered the game has a maximum armor roll

🤣

[umbral oracle]

Slow roll

3 mins until the show down

[safe valve]

you streaming?

[umbral oracle]

Nah cause he doesnt have a team as good as mine

[west plume]

Kieran streaming on Twitch

https://www.twitch.tv/porklamington

[umbral oracle]

Game code for casual gauntlet
7DQ85C

[drowsy oriole]

oh shit, so a much of ppl know if i face u, i got 8th🙄😭

[jolly whale]

7DQ85C

[blazing helm]

are empath comps viable?

[hot pond]

Its literally one roll short to go through all armors. I had that happen to me quite often now

[blazing helm]

So like what only fighters and rogues are strong?

[turbid osprey]

And air and earth and muds and corners but corners use more bulwarks than empaths

[umbral oracle]

Thanks guys, lots of fun

[viral marsh]

fighter xD

[hot pond]

Is there also a performance update coming to the lobby? It literally takes 100% gpu usage while searching for a match

[blazing helm]

?

[viral marsh]

you put fighter and strong in 1 sentence

[blazing helm]

Yeah berserkers/frost

[viral marsh]

still lose to everything

[blazing helm]

What is strong than? In your opinion

Last IPL been forcing the fighters every game haha don't know any other comp only playing for 2 weeks

But like how u play corner

Have tried couple times never really works

[umbral oracle]

Corner = Coward

[blazing helm]

Is corner always phyriox?

[bronze spire]

Fernite and scoriox is common with 5 bulwarks

If you verse another corner though it’s no longer corner 😄

Usually

[drowsy oriole]

this is shit, 4 players playing rogue in 1 matchpool, and then all the illuvial out of my decks is rogue too? how many actually is this rogue?

[tropic forge]

Idk i ´ve just having this games where 5 players go my build and other 3 are super happy uncontested. No matter what build i choose. They take rogue weapon and go berserk WTF!? or take earth shield and go air - dust.

[drowsy oriole]

its not a big deal , but i mean why does 4 people playing rogue and there still a lot even at on my deck (who wasnt playing rogue)?

[tropic forge]

too many rogue units on game?

they just need penguin bro, i ´m pretty sure u found none lol

[drowsy oriole]

right, i was playing bullwark+ psion, and its only 3 but i can get nothing on bullwark

bullshit

lost 50 rating bcs the deck wasnt make senses

[tropic forge]

Nice crash on weapon choose phase RIP this game, enough for today

[viral marsh]

fast guide how win rogue:
if it's more that 2 rogue in lobby, you take all penguins, lura from pull (dothen matter which build you play) - you spend 3-6-12 gold but they not got them fast, and not build revenant+vanguard. +pray location without composit.
if it's 1 rogue in game mostly nothing help you. you can use surender, as soon you top-4.

[blazing helm]

What weapon people play in scoriox comp?

[hot pond]

people picking random 3 gold units in carousel instead of denying revenant chip. what a joke

[tropic forge]

bro wtf how did i went from 8th to top 3 with a random weapon lol

6 people going same build wtf

@drowsy oriole can u explain what the F. was that game lol

[drowsy oriole]

u have umbre, if u put steam, your umbre will gain omega fastly

[vivid stirrup]

https://link.illuvium.io/IPL-2025-Points

[tropic forge]

yeah i understood that, but i literally won with a comp i don´t know how to play vs really strong players and like 6 in lobby were going the same hahaha

the fact i was with Tsunami makes u realize it was just luck i guess haha

[drowsy oriole]

yeah 3 of us, was contesting each other. actually your tsunami doesnt help a lot, in the fact your geyserr died first😅

[viral marsh]

it's not refreshed. should be week 3 IPL

[languid sparrow]

Yep.

[vivid stirrup]

That is the old system, we are currently overhauling it and updating everything to a more straight forward IPL Point system.
There will be updates coming soon!

Top 8 for this weekend are locked in and won't change with the overhaul.

[latent osprey]

yo how's gonna work the payouts from past ipls ?

[manic musk]

The payment for last IPL it will be auto into our ILV account? In ILV coin?

[vivid stirrup]

Yes it will be distributed via the Illuvium.io rewards feature, should be in USDC as far as I know.

Currently there is a bunch of internal work being done to update the IPL structure to be more straight forward and clearly defined.
We should be able to give you the updated rulesheet etc. as soon as it has been approved.

Please feel free to ping me in the future for any any questions you might have around the Illuvium Pro League, I should be able to answer them or get answers for you.

[viral marsh]

any news, when rewards for IPL will be send?

[manic musk]

Thank you! I appreciate

[vivid stirrup]

I think the full scoresheet will be ready tonight, in a few hours. Will keep you in the loop

[vivid stirrup]

Don't think there is definite info on that yet, will try to get an update.

[viral marsh]

it will be before november? i have b-day in this month

[vivid stirrup]

I would assume so yes. 😄 Happy Birthday already in case I miss it ❤️

[viral marsh]

if not. i hope before new year we can get it

[safe valve]

should be this week
... if everything works out fine🤞

[ashen mango]

It would be better if there was a bit more progression between 32nd place and 9th place imo

9th place should receive more than 16th place
17th place should receive more than 32nd place

For some reason there is almost no difference between 4th and 5th place

It's not harmonious with the rest

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/adam-de-vine-hmmm-idk-about-that-one-thinking-gif-17603268

[ashen mango]

It makes you fight even when you know that you cannot qualify anymore

For the final

[tropic forge]

And free draft carrousel imprint takes away another 1st place.

nice.

[safe valve]

but also...
You made "just" quaterfinal/semi-final you get those points...

[ashen mango]

I don't get your point

[safe valve]

why would you get more points if you don't make it to the final... you fucked it up the same as all others in the semifinals who did't make it

if it is a leaderbaord... sure...
for tournament i feel its totally fine

[ashen mango]

My point is that it isn't the same:

If you got 8th place 2 times and someone managed to get a 3rd place and a 4th place and got eliminated (it already happened)...
Then the one who has an average place of 3.5 should get more point than the one who got an average of 8

[safe valve]

why?

[ashen mango]

Because you get more points depending on your performance, the reason why we give more points to 1st place than to 2nd place is to reward competitiveness and incentivize doing your best

Sometimes you know that you are already eliminated even if you get 1st place, or sometimes you know that your chances are extremely low

This is more exciting, rewarding, engaging and fair

[safe valve]

top 8 is another matter imo... but semifinalists quaterfinalists i don't see a reason why.
Maybe it's just me tho

[viral marsh]

even this can't win rogs....

[west plume]

Sounds like skill issue ser.

[viral marsh]

can you teach me how win him?

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-cat-wolverine-gif-13615883107323891494

Is there no counter to the Penguin ?

Rog comp

[viral marsh]

best counter - not let build it.
i repeat it again and again, but then i see solo rog got him/or build him by myself without contest

[vivid stirrup]

We are finalizing a point distribution where we have unique point tiers for the top 16 but the lower ranks are grouped up

[viral marsh]

my rog weapon

and other top players rog weapon

what you gona do after they nerf it?

[drowsy oriole]

check pm mate

[hot pond]

this combination is exodia right now

[viral marsh]

probably he can kill him?

can't kill this dog with 4 behemoth today.
bad position. only 2 behemoth focus dog from start of fight.
but how catch dog with 4 behemoth, if he need 1 click to replace, i need 4

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/violin-tiny-cute-gif-15898508

[viral marsh]

pick water rog-weapon, build axodon, and then some umbre/monarch will do magic

[safe valve]

why rog and not gun?

[viral marsh]

gun will lose to rog. worst psion weapon atm
rog not lose to rog if you doing all what you have.

[safe valve]

doesn't it have a nice stun?
The gun?

is it that useless?

[viral marsh]

with gun you have 1 build can play.
with all other psion you have 3-4 different builds.

with gun you have wery weak early/mid game, you can't handle pressure from rog if it's not gold-fish

[safe valve]

i see

[viral marsh]

ye. only 1 can work

and it's frost-arcanit.
but we all know, that rog not let you build penguin

[fringe burrow]

Does this ilv take up omega? Or is it just an active?

[frozen tartan]

Now, the Omega Power parameter is important for the Bull.

[fringe burrow]

for Rai Lee too?

[frozen tartan]

Yes. Omega Power boosts every Illuvial in the game.

[jovial mango]

is there a wiki or something with all illuvials, abilities, items descriptions?

i play tft a lot, and just went 8th 3 games in a row... im just running out of time trying to read throu everything

items very specifically i cant find info about

[frozen tartan]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?gid=1085157877#gid=1085157877

[frozen tartan]

#🎨〕community-content message

[jovial mango]

much appreciated!

[frozen tartan]

Glad to help🤝

[zenith mortar]

Great video btw

I was hoping for Winnie accent and voice though 😉

[frozen tartan]

Sorry. I was considering the option with my voice and a strong accent.
But I decided to focus on quality for the wider audience.🐻

[tawny dove]

Ok guys, what's he bribing you? Clearly this must be win-trading with the CEO 😄 @umbral oracle

[arctic steppe]

4 mud too strong xD

[blazing helm]

Do we know when IPL timing is Friday?

[violet summit]

I love this monkey

🤣

@umbral oracle I stole your build... it works flawlessly against 4 revenant 🔥

[hot pond]

like what the hell is wrong with 4 mud its insane 2 shotting a 5 bulwark triple defensive augment blotto?

[violet summit]

monkier?

look at the attack damage from that monkier

3 attacks and tanks are dead

[hot pond]

but what is with that steal atk dmg for 2 seconds? doesnt it expire?

[violet summit]

I don't know honestly but combined with those stupid augments, its just insanely strong

I almost reached 700 dmg in one round

[hot pond]

but the description still sucks though. what is with the 2 seconds

if it just does the dmg for 2 seconds it wouldnt be as oppressive

[violet summit]

I think its permanently stealing but not cumulative

as long as it hits

[hot pond]

Mud units steal Attack Damage (30/40/50%) and Omega Power (30/40/50) from their target for 2 seconds.

what is that supposed to mean? When mud units take a shit or dance around they get the dmg? It doesnt even state how they get it

and also, the atk stolen from a tank shouldnt be that much, so how the hell do they boost up that much. Something seems really off here

[jovial mango]

hello! how are you guys improving at the game?

im understanding the gameflow, but i end up just losing all my rounds past like 10

im also on iluvilytics, but blindly following isnt helping at all

[bronze spire]

you likely are spending your gold too early to level or reroll, meaning you cant hit end game team comps. Also knowing what teams are good goes a long way. What team do you usually try build out?

[warm isle]

Teach me master web

[bronze spire]

you already too good

[warm isle]

When not even top 10

[jovial mango]

id like to say that its my econ

but im at least 2 tiering my board

some 3 tiered and still losing out

i do think its my augment choices

but its hard to understand the thought process on what to slam

yeah i dont think its my econ lol i just lost out with sear

although the other guy had titanus somehow

[jovial mango]

tried out the templar comp with blazenite, several versions actually

tried out vertical nature with nature augment

fighter reroll with Rai lu was the only top 4 comp i had lol

other versions of empath builds/invokers

also tried monkeys reroll but i definitely didnt have the angle for it lol

i think im also just missing out on the powerspikes that happen within the game

[bronze spire]

yea its probs a team comp thing and yea the augments. Out of those id stick with the templar build or some variation of 5 BW magama with blazenite/scoriox. Save all red augs to slam together for attack speed

[jovial mango]

is there a place/site where it tells you which augment slams are good on which illuvial?

obviously like double yellow is frontline, but like if i have red and purple for fusion, that honestly felt bad to slam anywhere

i guess what im asking, is it better to slam augments given or greed?

[fluid raptor]

we need a patch damn fast

tired of this rogue dominance

over a month

[fluid raptor]

and rogue is okay? you look like you hate the only builds that can stand against that shit rogue builds

[umbral oracle]

The cleave is so good. Fucks up those shitty corner comps so hard

[fluid raptor]

I want corner strong damn it 😛 tired of 1 hit or undead rogues

I want to watch something while playing

XD

at least small adjustments. not swapping whole team

[umbral oracle]

Pretty sure its this week. @worn tree ?

[fluid raptor]

I hope so

but I dont believe it XD

[umbral oracle]

Why not? We've shipped like 10 balance patches in the past 5 months

[fluid raptor]

last patch title was "nerfing revenant"

do you believe it has happened? 😄

[umbral oracle]

Rev gets pumped vs monkeys so I dont really know what you're talking about xD

We just sat in Arena chat showing off the MMO boss battle for 30 mins and everyone too busy playing gauntlet to notice

[fluid raptor]

with these rewards, nobody gonna play mmo

I left damn dota because it was eating my life and came here

this has become more competetive and toxic in time

I mean arena

some cooperative play I want

some serious bosses, really hard to kill

with good rewards

that requires real teamplay and timing

[native mauve]

Show it again!

[fluid raptor]

and with rare drops, and "Most Imporantly" you can kill them once a day

[fluid raptor]

and where is dat combat. wanna see it

give us some wow spirit XD

[fallen vortex]

I feel that

[fluid raptor]

but limit it to 1 kill a day

a scenario that %90 cant kill but %10 farming 24/7 is not a good thing

or 3 kills, or 3 tries

I dont know XD

damn people playing so great I cant even make it first 100...

[fallen vortex]

But u want people playing lots if u can too. My general approach would be tie a 'high score' to the event, and top 100 get drops. But then its less satisfying when u beat the boss since it doesn't have as nice drops.

You could do the first 100 rangers to defeat it each day get stuff, and then it gets locked until the next day

scale that with playerbase

[fluid raptor]

yes that is also an approach, but, good old system works great. every item has a drop rate, and you have 3 tries a day

something like this. it works great.

you use fuel to try.

[hot pond]

I have no idea. It almost feels like he is already buffed from the getgo even if it only hits a lone tank

[fluid raptor]

I also tried squid with tocix, according to the explanation, it should work on the enemies it kills, but still I am not sure.

I expected someting great.

as far as according to my observation, it did not work

toxic does not work with skills? we need further explanations with them in-game

we make a plan, but it does not work. guilt is all on the explanations XD

[umbral oracle]

Low key I think Anon wins the tournament this weekend

[low comet]

every single time i play this map

[low comet]

vanguard revenant chip on carousel hahaha

[arctic steppe]

We gave that feedback to remove Composite from the carousel months ago, everyone agreed it was bullshit, but it’s still there...

[low comet]

• the map we're playing hahaha

[bronze spire]

hahaha same 😄

[bronze spire]

maybe its the % increase from his omega x those items x berserker proc x mud

some of the % increases seem to multiply crazy

[worn tree]

Yes, between EOW and early next week.

[lilac stag]

is there any information about the top 8 IPL leaderboard? If you want I can calculate the table myself and send it to you)

if i didnt mistake its something like this, right?

[hot pond]

But then something is either off or it’s intended to multiply like that idk. Because otherwise it would be the same as putting on the 40% atk dmg augment and that doesn’t make such a crazy difference as we see with mud.

[bronze spire]

yea thats kind of what i was getting at, something in that multiplies to an unintended amount

[hot pond]

Especially if they steal from a bulwark unit with like 70 atk or whatever they have, its only stealing 35 atk with 4 mud.

[bronze spire]

yea, reminds me of when we had that item that when 2 of them stacked on slashin it multiplied unintendedly

[hot pond]

Yea feels exactly the same way. Just that they don’t even need to stack up because the dmg is there from the getgo

With slashin it took some more attacks / omegas before he ramped up to insane dmg

[bronze spire]

nah im talking about the item that gives omega power based of AD and energy on hit. It was actually a bug when stacked

[hot pond]

Ah yes that one remember it

[drowsy oriole]

@viral marsh the game started already dude, are not reconnect?

[viral marsh]

6/8. thank you

[drowsy oriole]

i

[viral marsh]

yes. i see. i was at 6/8 14 min search game

[drowsy oriole]

ok

[hot badge]

Im sorry, but thats not what an MMO should be.
That idea makes no sense imo. Ppl awake when the daily reset happen have a chance...all the rest are left out...lol
What works is proven by many games. WoW is the biggest ever, all we got to do is make it similar with some twists where the illuvials fit.

[vivid stirrup]

it is still work in progress, but the overhaul will still have those same 8. so yes you are right! thanks

[arctic steppe]

Feels like the game’s crashing way more than usual today, or is it just me?

[twilit storm]

@arctic steppe too much grind w/out rebooting the system can lead to unexpected crashes, try to restart your Pc every 2/3 hours, it should help to make your system more stable.

Rebooting can help to flush the standby list and the working sets (if you don t use tools like the intelligent standby list or memreduct)

[blazing helm]

Is there any leaderboard we can see of the IPL Points?

[viral marsh]

all fine with units in pool?
only 14 lesser monkier on tabels

and i got last at the moment when 4 monkier eliminated

[fallen vortex]

wen patch

[safe valve]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[west plume]

Eow or early next week

https://tenor.com/view/teamwork-gif-11937128885494742584

[twilit storm]

last week you said next week 🙁

#💬〕general message

I was hoping tomorrow but...nvm

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-eye-roll-annoyed-awkward-awkward-silence-gif-8519527199733944803

[twilit storm]

I still hope something happens before this we event tho

[safe valve]

same

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/little-witch-academia-sucy-shrug-gif-4662548609695463535

[fallen vortex]

Lol such a wide range

[twilit storm]

at 3:00 AM UTC? everyone too busy with REM phase Ser lol

[blazing helm]

how do people play invoker comps?

like is rolling for seeforus the play or just leveling fast better?

tatopees?

oh yeah

i see

so like forcing invoker never good?

the water gun guy

is viable no?

and he is invoker

ow

so there is no psion comp?

except for the scoriox ofcourse

[gloomy mural]

Keep no patching guys

Very interesting to play

[viral marsh]

it will be no patch untill next week

[mellow bolt]

Any opinions on the DOA report?? I think it’s cool they show everything

16months of run way

[tropic forge]

GOGOGO! @sinful hornet 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/glee-sue-sylvester-cheering-cheer-excited-gif-16955937

[zenith mortar]

Make a video bout how no one else shows their runway 🫠

[viral marsh]

Brazilian friends in business.
1 play mud, 1 earth-mystic, 2 play rog( 1 in Slashin, other in Umbre)
enjoy this kind of farm LB points? @stuck epoch @primal flax ?

nice 8 rai you buy to not let me play shock btw Froudo.

[cursive echo]

@frank moon beautiful collection

[mellow bolt]

Ok ✅ how were the numbers for last week tournament more new record player count ?

I didn’t play last week

[violet summit]

1 cast

[west plume]

New patch on sepolia.

[violet summit]

I feel sorry for this guy

this one cast killed 90% of his entire team 🤣

[west quartz]

isn't there an error in patch note ?
"Blue + Blue = Shield (Blue)

Blue + Yellow = Support (Green)

Yellow + Yellow = Energy (Yellow)"

Shouldn't it be blue + blue = energy and yellow + yellow = Shield ? it feels like blue and yellow got swapped (or is it my colorblindness getting even worse and it was always like this ?)

[blazing helm]

yellow is shield right now

[mighty tulip]

This is a very welcome addition

[blazing helm]

is there any way where i can see a leaderboard of the IPL points

[worn tree]

Any estimates on OP and Crit Amp?

[violet summit]

I didn't look at those sorry 😯
I had 4 revenant, 3 inferrno, 2 phantom activated (7 rogue)

I would assume over 200 OP with that legendary augment

[west quartz]

ngl, that made me laugh 😄

[supple beacon]

Can we expect the patch to be live before Friday?

[violet summit]

oh oh, shock buff? I thought it was already strong enough at 4 threshold🤔

[west quartz]

the nerf people wanted 😂

[dull wind]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-son-goku-saiyan-super-saiyan-dragon-ball-gif-10426444575225646917

[ashen mango]

@frozen tartan 🥂

[viral marsh]

battle pass rewards can be sold/buy on market?

and what this thing means?

[hollow citrus]

for season 1 yes

[hollow citrus]

arena points are what's being used for the raffles and when you've completed the whole thing you gain even more points

[viral marsh]

but it's final reward. so i don't understand why need x2 points if that final thing?

[hollow citrus]

so you get more chances for the raffle

[viral marsh]

so, raffle will be made based by this points/not on games like now?

[mighty tulip]

very cool

[hollow citrus]

Correct, you go gain the points for doing game like now but you can also complete missions to get more. Dedicated blog about the battlepass should come out before EOW

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/backstreet-boys-brian-littrell-bsbdna-bsb-dance-gif-14081101

[tropic forge]

@sinful hornet and that´s how stupid i am

[zenith mortar]

Testnet anyone?

[hot pond]

-5 on revenant. Why did I expect anything else?

[twilit storm]

penguin buffed it s a joke btw lol

[hot pond]

It will still 100% crit with chip and augments no?

[twilit storm]

leggo nerf is good

[hot pond]

They should have at least toned down the atk speed debuff from rev

That composite just does everything

Sustain dmg and debuff

Berserkers harder to hit tho with scorpion

[zenith mortar]

not possible

but looking

[zenith mortar]

aah one game is over

[viral marsh]

it's screen from yestarday. when game decide close in the middle

[zenith mortar]

YN99H6

lol

no it has a filter of an hour

so if a game is broken it will dissappear

just takes time

TESTNET YN99H6

@dawn isle

@twilit storm

@mighty tulip

@dark scaffold

[quasi badge]

@zenith mortar you got any testnet codes to redeem? Got a new pc and its not showing in Epic anymore

[zenith mortar]

yes

BW44L-SUEWT-96MLX-F9HK9
VQCH7-4RT6N-Z3FJP-84MQN
RP5TC-USNX5-Q3J9G-3ULKG
YSNEV-KCJVQ-JUAFZ-5S3BQ
G5FCY-PG5E9-4Y7KU-E76K3
CNPP9-MHZDX-FZNNM-BDK8A

[quasi badge]

First one worked, thanks

[arctic steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/naruto-crea4clones-anime-naruto-gif-14711338

[ashen mango]

I'm usually not a skin buyer but this one makes me want to buy it

[hot pond]

Looks really good yea

[frozen tartan]

Need to test

[lusty bridge]

Love the new patch but have a question about this -> Team Planner for Leviathan Mode. Will there be an auto select option that picks the top 2 for us based on TPI? There is no way I want to search through all my illuvials to select the top 2 🙂 @noble radish

[primal flax]

better test on leaderboard than on the ipl lol, you can get the #1 LB, I don't have any problem with it

[primal flax]

still playing?

[viral marsh]

test what? team play?

[zenith mortar]

yeah

we in voice

[viral marsh]

so, you not stay all in voice, and decide who and which build will play? to not pick units from each other?
on IPL you all doing same?

[zenith mortar]

9JBW8G

[primal flax]

If this was the case for sure every was cutting you, but idc

[ashen mango]

I agree, it should be the other way around

[primal flax]

🙁

[ashen mango]

Blue = mana/energy/magic

[viral marsh]

ye, seems it's hard to know for you, did you in voice with your friends or not.
how your boss say? all Brazillian call war for me?

[primal flax]

I just stay in call to have fun, things doesn't need to be that heavy

sorry If I have fun playing this

[blazing helm]

guys how is the full air comp played and is it good?

[primal flax]

It is, you can go to inferno or shock with 6 air, works nice

very easy comp

[ashen mango]

Really? I find it hard to play with all the positioning nuances

[viral marsh]

is it fun split-strats, and pick units from player who not in your guild?

probably next time just join with all guild at game with me and pick all my units i try to play?

[blazing helm]

u would have to reroll for the 1 cost units no?

[ashen mango]

If you play shock yeah and it's risky but inferno or templar are more reliable

Inferno if you have a fire weapon

[blazing helm]

so fire

with what?

[ashen mango]

Air units, Artace and try to go for Rhamphyre

[blazing helm]

u would say its very good tier comp?

[ashen mango]

The psion fire weapon seems to be the best for this comp

[primal flax]

yeah the positioning against non corner comps is a little complicated

[blazing helm]

like defintly need some more comps to have in my arsenal

[ashen mango]

I'm not sure, maybe A-tier

Maybe B

I didn't play it much

It's hard to hit Rhamphyre

[tropic forge]

My words have 0 value because everybody knows i hate your OLA representatives with all my heart but i guess what you are doing goes against more than 1 rule, and yeah, i´ve seen how you split strats or grief units or just don´t queee with Nareba almost never...

but whatever.

this is the wild west so keep doing it ❤️

[viral marsh]

you start play anything and got contested

[blazing helm]

hhm thx i will try out next time if i see opportunity inferno deff seems like the more reliable way to play

[ashen mango]

They might add units in the pool

It would alleviate the problem

[primal flax]

I was thinking If the carousel units could be out of the pool, like extra units

[ashen mango]

We have more econ which compensates at least partially

[viral marsh]

if your win condition scoriox+blazenite, and 2 player start pick them, while other build something else, theyr choicen champion win, and you free-roll

[blazing helm]

yeah this is what im struggling with the most

[ashen mango]

I would love that, I initially thought that it was the case

What do you think @worn tree?

It would alleviate the problem of not having enough different units in the pool and being contested every game

[blazing helm]

and also that low cost units have so little in the pool

[viral marsh]

i hope next tournament 4 OLA got into finals and start pressure Slickz to not let him win.
probably after that we got something like new rules with hiden names

[zenith mortar]

anyone else

7/8

9JBW8G

testnet

[primal flax]

I think in TFT the consumable that duplicate units also doesnt count in pool

[ashen mango]

Since we don't have duplicators it would make more sense to have the carousel add units in the pool

NFT owners want to play their assets so it's better if we can often play stage 3s imo

[worn tree]

So far we'll keep it like this, but theres work towards increasing different units in the pool

[arctic steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/vote-dont-vote-voting-is-dumb-handsome-filipe-mexcian-hiding-gif-20334648

fox playing ipl with hiden names ☝️

[viral marsh]

you should got baned for things you all doing, but you smile

[arctic steppe]

what i'm doing? i'm streaming all my games bro wtf

[viral marsh]

your guild

[arctic steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/crybaby-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-wah-wah-gif-8216145523869950285

[viral marsh]

or you say you not split strats when 3+ ppl in voice and in same game>?

[balmy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/toby-cry-phone-spider-man-cry-phone-spider-man-phone-toby-phone-gif-12875606672124040541

[viral marsh]

or you not contest hard person?
Froudo play mad today and pick 8 rai. and when he saw i play other strat - he sold it?

go go. call more adept to laught

[arctic steppe]

If you knew the reality, you’d understand how funny it is to hear you say that, we grief each other almost every match, and it’s totally fine, it’s just part of the game, same in TFT

@viral marsh Why did you delete your message? Can't stand by your insults?

[balmy vale]

He is frustrated for losing 6 matches today, and he probably won't even make the top 3 this week, and he wants to vent his anger by typing in the chat.

But insulting, I think he deserved a punishment in the IPL for that.

[blazing helm]

ok this air comp i dont understand it what so ever xD like i dont have damage and dont have tanky so what is my comp even doing

went 8the for first time

[hot pond]

Air is just coinflipping on opponents not hitting true sight

[blazing helm]

what is even ur damage dealer though?

[twilit storm]

seems you guys just dgaf bout testnet aight?

noice

[balmy vale]

Now 7 loses

[viral marsh]

last day week LB - testnet. what a joke

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-alone-gary-johnson-hit-man-having-meals-alone-netflix-gif-7908998908297679437

[worn tree]

All good thx mate, thats enough info

[hot pond]

If your units dodge they deal dmg with 6 air. Other than that there is shock or inferno doing your main dmg

I would say. I never play air myself so can’t say for certain

[drowsy fossil]

Is it allowed to call others a monkey? In my country, that's considered racism and is punishable with 2 to 5 years in prison.
Could you please check this user's message history for me? <@&795142782133207063>

[ashen mango]

Wtf is your country mate? Oo

[twilit storm]

is the country where they cut you an hand if they find you stealing?

[latent osprey]

why you reacted with a monkey emoji on a serious matter?

[balmy vale]

Really ?

[ebon flume]

Hi what message are you refering to?

[latent osprey]

viper and quants ?

[west plume]

Where iam from its used as a person thats all over the place and cant sit still,what was the context of the message?

[cyan olive]

I like monkeys, cool animals

[ashen mango]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-monkey-dancing-orangutan-monkey-dance-happy-monkey-gif-12702179649294906179

[drowsy fossil]

Foxspirit's last message, but he deleted it

[hollow citrus]

that's enough

next aggravating message gets a week time out

[drowsy fossil]

Are you disrespecting an entire race to make jokes and pranks?

[latent osprey]

calling people monkey 1 week timeout ? do you think this is a joke ?

[arctic steppe]

it was about the OLA players he was referring to, not me.

[ebon flume]

@arctic steppe and @viral marsh I know competition gets serious and temperatures rise all the time. We the mods don't like to meddle too much but this chat is getting out of hand lately so decide.....ether behave or we will start a very strict mod policy (this goes for everyone)

[blazing helm]

thx guys still learning a lot

[ashen mango]

You'll learn a lot if you join the HYPE guild 😏

[blazing helm]

i dont even know what guilds are 😭

[ashen mango]

I'm not sure either to be honest

[blazing helm]

xD

[ashen mango]

Basically groups of players who help each other, we have channels dedicated to sharing tips and screenshots for instance and a weekly private event
In exceptional cases we have private tournaments with some cash 😁

But guilds don't exist yet in the game

[arctic steppe]

My teasing has never crossed the line into personal offense, so I'm totally fine with having punishment policies in place

yes please, lets do it Sota

starting stream

[ashen mango]

You can also watch tournament recordings but I guess that's less educational

[ashen mango]

Let's go!
What do we do? 🤔

[arctic steppe]

i wanna learn how u can place the units soo fast

[arctic steppe]

We need more people livestreaming Illuvium, like we have for TFT

[west plume]

how many views do you get per stream?

[ashen mango]

I agree, probably not me though
How about you do it @sinful hornet?

Oh yeah that's a bother

Btw thanks for doing it @arctic steppe
You are basically our only competitive Illuvium streamer

[twilit storm]

i love monkey more than humans, they are really better creature imho.

[arctic steppe]

Hard to say, I’m still starting out. On X it gets the most audience, also thanks to Illuvium reposts a lot of people show up 🫡

[ashen mango]

I could try streaming in French but I think that we are less than 10 French speaking players right now, maybe not even 5

[twilit storm]

But this beef between you guys is cool until it s everyday..then it s boring..just saying

[arctic steppe]

I believe this will change soon, the game is becoming more and more popular

[twilit storm]

This is true...lot of people talking shiet..but Nareba at least streams hours of gameplay (free lessons for everybody)

[arctic steppe]

yea, sorry about that , Playing 14–18 hours a day can make you a little crazy haha, and when they mess with my boys it makes my blood boil

I want to congratulate @sinful hornet for achieving Top 1 this week, it was well deserved for all the dedication. I’m going to touch some grass now and watch some anime, but watch out next week haha 👀

[west plume]

X784MA
testnet casual

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-driving-serious-cat-driving-focus-driving-gif-11924413609777581867

[twilit storm]

it's fine, average hours for a job ser, and you are having fun so... gg

Lars flexing suit skins in testnet

[west plume]

yes ser

bought them all

[west plume]

are you hoarding your Fuel Quants?

[ebon flume]

https://tenor.com/view/degens-gif-22923855

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-lawd-my-precious-gif-13073178

[west plume]

only thing is that the battleboards are not showing up

[twilit storm]

wym?

[ashen mango]

It's a new menu tab on testnet

[twilit storm]

I bought a skin but it s not showing up mhh

[west plume]

from sepolia test net

[west plume]

yeah,took a min or two to show up

come join X784MA

[ashen mango]

5k

But you get something like 2k back if you complete it

[twilit storm]

much better

[arctic steppe]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-im-penguin-coming-gif-14886158

[west plume]

feel like iam the only one who got the memo of dressing up

[regal hound]

Article should be out in a few days, good to have some feedback on it without a guidance article as well, as most new players will interact with it like that probably

[west plume]

should i start the game?

[twilit storm]

up to you mate

[ebon flume]

Yes please

[west plume]

@zenith mortar are you coming?

[quasi badge]

i join if still place

[west plume]

yep

[quasi badge]

starting 1 sec

[west plume]

1 Sec

you in?

[quasi badge]

Says lobby not found

lol

wait

kk in

[ebon flume]

he in

[west plume]

here we go

[twilit storm]

7/8

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-cat-wolverine-gif-13615883107323891494

love these small details

worst region ofcourse

[scarlet spindle]

After 3 games so far..

• I love the augment switching. Great work there!
• I think the new augment icons feel generic. They look ok, but they look like any other generic game and don't feel like part of our unique game.

Keep the switching, go back to the old icons 🙂

[hot pond]

Is the lobby still draining 100% gpu usage on testnet? Or is it even worse now with the changes? 😂

[hot pond]

I am updating my game now to check it out

Doesnt seem to be different. I have a 5070 TI and 99% GPU usage still in lobby. Havent found that low performance mode setting either

[zenith mortar]

the low performance mode isnt showing yet

think the button is missing

they know though

[hot pond]

my usage drops to around 50 while in game on epic settings

just lobby is crazy draining

[arctic steppe]

gauntlet arena will show the xp gained now, nice

[hot pond]

not sure what crazy effects they added in the background of the lobby 😄

[frozen tartan]

How many experience points did you get in one game?

[arctic steppe]

I don’t think my game can be used as an example, because on the test server I don’t have nfts

https://tenor.com/view/how-i-met-your-mother-himym-barney-stinson-neil-patrick-harris-challenge-accepted-gif-4594551

I’m gonna go buy my level 1 Illuvials

[frozen tartan]

I had an idea.
Use a stopwatch to measure the battle time of Illuvials before the patch on the mainnet.

Then do the same measurement after the update.

But I’m too lazy to spend a few hours of my life on this. And life is so short.

This way, I could understand how effective the Leviathan update is (I mean the 10%).

[west plume]

doing ranked Testnet gauntlet

[safe valve]

from what i understand, the 10% is purely on ownership.
So you will only notice a difference to players using standard illuvials vs those who own illuvials.
The impact on high/low stats/lvls stays the same if i'm not mistaken.

[frozen tartan]

You’re slightly mistaken, my friend.
Perry and Aaron gave me their arguments, and I analyzed them.
There is a difference, but it’s negligible.

Only with a stopwatch could I properly test all of this. But I’m too lazy.

[frozen tartan]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[regal hound]

Anyone down for a Ranked game on Sepolia, wanna test some stuff 🙂

[ashen mango]

Is XAU a new guild?

[safe valve]

we shall see... insignificant i would say.
We had 50% before and you barely noticed a difference from an average stat standard level to a perfect stat max level.
With his calculation the perfect stat should have been obliterating which just wasn't the case

[frozen tartan]

Yes, of course, that’s not enough. By the way, Axeless couldn’t handle it and sold his deck.

[safe valve]

i saw, yea