🎮〕illuvium-arena

[fallen vortex]

Thats my point. If people barely use it, simplify the game and remove it, or make it usable

[bitter cypress]

ye

[fallen vortex]

That will also make level 8 more valuable and make it easier to find big Illuvials and reward you more for maxing to 8

Its clear that 8 is the roof for synergies, Illuvials etc. But hitting it early should reward players more

[bitter cypress]

each have their strategies. i dont feel rushing to lvl 8 is the way to go

[jolly whale]

I make all my builds around 9 Illuvials, making it to 9 usually depends on how well I manage my economy tho

[drowsy oriole]

i usually stuck at lv 8 if i got all of my comp needed, then push it to s3

[mellow bolt]

Round 9 and dude has 2 stage 3

Rest of the team all stage 2 lvl 6

All the money 💰 spent perfectly I guess doesn’t make sense

[umbral oracle]

Whether you like it or not, this is peak level performance

[thick estuary]

This monkier mud got all my dmg and omegas haha gg

[scarlet spindle]

Damn @primal flax , that was a hell of a game!

[primal flax]

man that was close hahah

[scarlet spindle]

Lol the wind could have blown and we'd have fallen down.

[umbral oracle]

And my monkey had the extra reach just melting your disgraceful corner comp

gg

[bitter cypress]

come to leviathan .. show u who daddy is 🤣

<@&1400508814910029907> 5 of 8 at the moment

[zenith mortar]

Whos the new coach?

[bitter cypress]

100% he is getting coached

[mellow bolt]

Sand bagger for the augments

[mellow bolt]

1v1 me for $500

[umbral oracle]

I haven't had a session with Slicky ricky in at least 6 months

[tropic forge]

Don't forget to think about new builds in the shower 😃

[umbral oracle]

Honestly the game is just so high octane for me though. My heart rate warning on my watch goes off if I get into the top 3. Feels like a sport where you do not want to do a single move to fuck it up. God I love it

[edgy bough]

Still got it bby

[mellow bolt]

I’m ranked 630 why do I get matched up with top guys lol 😂 also only get 11 points for 3rd against the high ELO lobby

Furyz hype two games in a row and he sand bags

[jolly whale]

That's a stacked lobby

[lusty bridge]

Im still noticing some disconnects, hoping to see those squashed

[mellow bolt]

That’s not the lobby just showing that the number 8player is getting matched up with me ranked 600s

[native mauve]

There's not enough players for matchmaking yet.

[charred matrix]

Happens all the time.
Not enough players.
And
The problem is with Smurf accounts... That's why you're ranked +600 and still matching with top players.

[sinful hornet]

the game needs 6 costs for 8+ to be relevant

[lilac stag]

which point system do we have for tomorrow tournament?

[terse rampart]

is there a channel here for beyond alpha wars?

[hot pond]

Is it normal that the menu screen is way more GPU demanding than the actual arena game? The difference is crazy

[tropic forge]

@zenith mortar is there a way to change my name on Illuvytics? I don´t wanna be -UwU- forever in there 🤣

https://tenor.com/view/blush-anime-shy-cute-girl-gif-14495627569314612221

[zenith mortar]

I think it wil just change once you change your name @dark scaffold

right?

[tropic forge]

i changed my name on Illuvidex / arena and i´m still UwU in there

at least that´s what i see

[ivory saddle]

It has been updated

[dark scaffold]

you dont like UwU xD??

[tropic forge]

Oh, nice, i was still seeing UwU on top right, on my profile

[tropic forge]

i do like it, for trolling, but i don´t wanna be on IPL as the UwU boy 🤣

[dark scaffold]

🤣

we cache stuff to not spam calls like this 500 times when you open the page, if you clear the cache, should update everywhere

[tropic forge]

thx! 🏆

[frozen tartan]

@safe valve Hi. Today I dreamed about you and your Wildfire build. I was also playing in the Nature deck — I even built Phosphorus in the last round, but I didn’t have enough time to reposition. In dreams, it’s impossible to act faster. I probably ended up in 2nd place.

Maybe I’m spending too much time here.

[safe valve]

sounds like you need to upgrade your dream-game.
I always either win big in dreams, or the world gets destroyed by robots

[flint lodge]

))

[frozen tartan]

I usually either have nightmares or dream about Gauntlet.

In the first half, you beat me at Gauntlet. In the second half, I dreamed of big flat slugs with sharp teeth. They were crawling out of a cucumber patch. I have no idea why the patch was in the middle of my room.

[flint lodge]

this is only when we don't have LB, rewards and etc and only 2 tournaments)

[tropic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chappellesshow-davechappelle-chappelles-tyrone-tyronebiggums-gif-1834035011422348633

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/honey-oh-gif-21283529

[tropic forge]

you gonna have to check your honeycomb, may be malfunctioning lately 🤣

[hot badge]

I notice that too. My laptop gets on fire during Q and then im fine during game

[ashen mango]

Having tier 6 illuvials sounds interesting but the power gap between the lowest and the highest tier shouldn't be too high if we want to make even the lowest tiers relevant late game

And if the power gap is too small between one tier and the tier below or above it devalues the higher tiers

[safe valve]

should the lowest tier be relevant late game?

[paper escarp]

Regarding IPL participation time arrangements, I have the following two proposals:

1. Extend the Qualifiers period to 24 hours. For example:
   Start: August 15th, 17:00 UTC
   End: August 16th, 17:00 UTC

Within this 24-hour window, participants may choose any 4-hour time slot to compete and achieve their highest score. They may retry until satisfied with their result.

2. Offer two distinct time slots. For example:
   Slot 1: August 16th, 17:00 UTC
   Slot 2: August 17th, 07:00 UTC

Participants may select a slot based on their time zone. Each scoring session lasts 4 hours. If dissatisfied with their first score (e.g., 17:00–21:00 UTC on Aug 16), they may retry in the second slot to improve their result.

Technical considerations:
Option 1 may complicate score tracking or pose implementation challenges but better accommodates global players and boosts engagement.
Option 2 simplifies scoring operations while resolving time zone conflicts and allowing retries for unsatisfactory scores.

Personal suggestions are for reference

[ashen mango]

Tier 1 yes I think

Otherwise you don't want to spend resources to get their stage 3

[lilac stag]

Does anyone know?

[safe valve]

why would you go for t4/5 s3 if you can just spend resources to get t1s3 to have good engame comp but also dominate the early game?

[hot pond]

The mud monkeys are relevant already. So tier 1s do matter

[ashen mango]

Because t4/5 S3 are strong enough to justify going for them especially considering how much gold we get each game

Right now if you get a T4S3 or a T5S3 you have a big power spike

If T1S3 are devalued they will not be played in the same way that T0S3 were not played before they decreased their number in the pool

[ashen mango]

Also when you're going for T1S3 you're not strong early game since you spend time rolling without hitting instead of leveling up, you're actually sacrificing your early game or you're sacrificing your early econ and have less gold to get higher power spikes later

[hot pond]

Unless you play some harbinger stuff and then it’s enough if you find snail and axon to get you through 🤣

[safe valve]

would you say a t1/2/3 board should be able to win the lobby where you have T3/4/5 boards?

[ashen mango]

Yes if the lower tiers are stage 3 and higher tiers are stage 2
When you get a stage 3 not only do you get more power with your stats but also with your composite synergy

But it never happens, there are some comps with 5 T1S3 like the old air rogue and it's rare, usually either you don't go for T1S3 because they aren't that strong or your try to get a few and then you get higher tiers

So it's not T1, T2, T3 VS T3, T4 T5
It's boards with a some T1 VS boards without T1

If anything I find T1S3 to be a slightly underwhelming because why would you go for a T1S3 when you have enough gold to go for a T3S3?

Usually you get them for their composite synergies

Or because you're looking for 1 or 2 so might as well get other relevant ones

Moreover we don't have enough different units in the pool so if you spend your time lvl 5/6 trying to get T1S3 it means that your opponents will get the higher tier units that you want before you because you're likely to get contested

Currently T1S3 units are either alright or need a slight buff imo

In TFT my T1S3 felt stronger probably because we aren't facing T5S3 or T4S3 as often

I'm not really a TFT player so I could be wrong on this one but it sounds correct

[safe valve]

in my experience in tft you either had a strong t1S3 half the lobby was going for (basically broken) or they fell off mid-lategame

might have been a low elo problem tho.
basically people checking stats, that rush comp is performing good i go for it

[paper escarp]

@zenith mortar

[sinful hornet]

grilla 3 and monkier 3 are better than some t5s3s currently

[ashen mango]

In HYPE we have a channel dedicated to sharing lobby screenshots, I just checked and in the last 6 lobby screenshots I found only 2 illuvials T1S3 in the top 4

So out of about 200 illuvials that ended up in the top 4, only 2 of them were T1S3 and they were not even played by strong players

It's not a definitive proof that T1S3 are weak but it strongly suggests that they aren't that efficient (or if they are then most players haven't figured it out yet)
Let's keep in mind that a T1S3 doesn't cost 9 gold but perhaps rather 20/30 because you need to roll for them @safe valve

[sinful hornet]

i mean u need to roll for t4 and 5s too

[safe valve]

isn't that kinda like a selffullfilling prophecy?
If you have such a channel and you just consider the data out of that chanel isn't it likely all those screenshots have similar comps/strategies?
If i look for example at fox spirits last 8 games he had in 3 games a t1s3 unit in. (rank 1 /1 /3 in those games)

[ashen mango]

My opinion wasn't based on this channel and if it were then sharing it would make sense because it's relevant data albeit 6 games remains a low sample size

It's based on my games and what I've seen these last patches even though I played less recently so perhaps some things have changed

T1S3s are expensive for what they bring considering that you are likely to face T4S3 and a T5S3 late game

The more money we get in a game the more you can afford T4S3 and T5S3, in gauntlet we get so much money that these powerful illuvials are seen in basically every game which comparatively devalues T1S3
If we would almost never see T4S3s and T5S3s then T1S3s would be way stronger late game but that's not the case

If fox found a way to make them work then it's positive because T1S3s should be desirable even at high level, I just checked his screenshot and you can see that he didn't find his Blotto and ended lvl 8, also will this team compete in a tournament lobby?

[hot badge]

I think that the reason is that you need to stay lvl 6 to have a good % to get T1s to S3.
And if you do it for too long you start to fall behind and at some point you need to lvl up or you will risk to lose many health points

[ashen mango]

Yeah it makes you weaker late-early game and early-middle game like round 10-17

Unless you roll a lot which sacrifices your potential late game or you are very lucky which should be rare

[uncut comet]

Btw how will be the 150.000$ Main Event be hold , will it also be from Home and streamed or will it be like an Event where we need to go live in person? @umbral oracle

[cursive echo]

@sinful hornet I should have left you the rampy I had no chance anyway

[sinful hornet]

unlucky matchamking u beat the other one

[crimson cargo]

Is there a limit to how many illuvials I can bring on my team in leviathan?

[sinful hornet]

no

[ember sail]

which one was going to deliver the gamer?

I was losing to you, in the end I managed to beat the hollow, if you had overcome him you would have won the gamer

[twilit storm]

Someone is flexing 5 high stats, high lvl Dark Holos in Leviathan ranked right now eh?

[supple epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/indeed-terry-crews-muscles-pec-agree-gif-2375406679603920829

[twilit storm]

@bitter cypress Dark Holos bench so op is not even funny. 🤣

[crimson cargo]

Is there a limit to the number of illuvials I can bring on my team in leviathan based on the tier? If not, why not just only go in with all tier 4/5s?

[sinful hornet]

there's like 80 units and u need most of them

[crimson cargo]

Can you expand on that a bit more for me

Lol

Units?

[sinful hornet]

illuvials

you should play a game of gauntlet to understand

[crimson cargo]

I’ve played a few games of casual

But my understanding is when you go into leviathan you are bringing your own team. If I’m bringing my own team, am I not limited in any capacity on how I structure that team?

[sinful hornet]

no, the shops are the same, if you don't own an illuvial it will still be in the shop just very weak stats

[lilac stag]

Where can i find info about tomorrow tournament?

point system ?

[sullen vessel]

Wow arena is tough when do we get to see the ratings of the other players so I know where I am at

I feel like I'm playing Dota again with smurfs running a muck

[gilded axle]

This error of not going to the composite for everyone is complicated.

[lilac stag]

Why link in announcements doesnt work? Where is tournament page ?

[tawny dove]

Thats the unfortunate result of a small player pool, meaning there is no matchmaking based on rating. So if unlucky you can get paired up with the best players here, even if you are brand new and/or low ranked.
This will be fixed as the game grows though.

[naive mantle]

are the ques empty? all game modes including casual are stuck at 1/8 for me. doesnt casual autofill bots? is my game broken?

[safe valve]

have you tried restarting the game?

[naive mantle]

yes! i noticed it last night and assumed no one was playing. but its still doing it. getting worried since i want to practice!

[safe valve]

have you tried deleting the "saved files folder"?

guide for deleting your saved files folder:

1. Input this to your file explorer to get to the folder directly: %appdata%/../Local/Illuvium/
2. Delete the "Saved" folder

[naive mantle]

i will try!

do you know if anyone is playing right now?
and am i correct in thinking casual should autofill bots?

[safe valve]

i think there should still be bots, yes.
Haven't tried that mode for ages tho 😄

there should be at least 10 games going

[naive mantle]

me neither, i just tried as a troubleshoot to see if i can get into a game 😅

cleared appdata and restarted game, nothing changed, no ranked que and no casual que 🙁

ok i thought so... i couldnt imagine no one playing right before IPL

well i need a fix ASAP

[safe valve]

hmmm...
Far stretch... do you have cosmetics equipped you don't own anymore?
Could try to remove them all to test...

[naive mantle]

should i uninstall?

ill try the cosmetics, that one always frigs it up

[zenith mortar]

i think there is more than 10 my thing is just limited to 10

right now

for now

[naive mantle]

any idea on a fix for me??

i found it LOL

[safe valve]

ya that's why i wrote "at least" 😄

[safe valve]

what was it?

[zenith mortar]

Whats wrong

[naive mantle]

i unsleeved my beyond album to hide my points. the Vapour Wave drone blast was selected and i dont think i have access to it without the album sleeved.

But anyway i was wrong, its still showing 1/8 with the drone blast removed 🙁

im gonna resleeve my album and see if it fixes it...

resleeving the album fixed it

everytime i restarted the game, vapor wave was selected, it was like the game wouldnt confirm me selecting a new blast. so i guess my album has to stay sleeved. lol

anyway thanks for the guidance boys, cheers

[safe valve]

could probably exchange it with some of the standard emotes, no?

[naive mantle]

i did, and matchmaking was still broken, so i would restart game, and boom vapor wave is still selected 🙁

[safe valve]

hmm, weird...

did you hit the save button?

[naive mantle]

so 2 bugs, 1 is the game not working with selected blasts or cosmetics you dont own, and 2 is the game not saving your selection choices probably when you no longer have the blast you had selected

[safe valve]

😄

[naive mantle]

yesir!

🤪

should really pin this problem/fix incase anyone has a mishap right before IPL

or not and make the competition easier 🫢

it might happen to other people with Wave4 snapshot coming up and people messing with their albums

[frank moon]

had the same issue, changing cosmetics works

[safe valve]

ya, probably

[gilded axle]

.

[weary sinew]

Question how is sit and go going to work? And can we participate in all off them?

[naive mantle]

question about the 4 hour qualifier period:
is it matches that start within the 4 hours? or end within the 4 hours? like if i start a game at 4:45 and it ends at 5:15 does it count? if i start a game at 12:45 and it ends at 1:15 does it count?

[turbid osprey]

start within the period, so you can start a game 3:59 after it started and it will count

[naive mantle]

thank you!

[uncut comet]

@viral marsh brother are u ready for tournament?

[supple epoch]

any advice for the Discord ineed all pointer i can get haha

Sit and go is arena gauntlet rank ?

[uncut comet]

which advice u need for discord?

no sit and go has nothing to do with rank

only how u play in that timeframe

[lilac stag]

What is this point system? No minus PTS for 5th-8th ? Everyone will just ff when they are see strong players in their lobby or when they have bad start

I and many other players here have been asking for a normal PTS system for a long time and persistently, we have given clear arguments, but now I see that the system is the same? People have no value for the game, no fear of failure and there are an infinite number of attempts to catch a successful game for themselves (while I will be taking the top 2-3 in my games with a bad start for a long time and diligently, someone will simply see that he did not get the necessary weapon and there are strong players in the lobby, just give up and regnet the next game where the circumstances will be on his side, he will get x2 of my points, spending 5 minutes more than me)

[turbid osprey]

I think @zenith mortar agreed and confirmed there would be negative points for 7-8th

[turbid osprey]

@lilac stag

[sinful hornet]

looks good

damn and u even made it not coinflip between 1st and 2nd nice

[supple epoch]

Iwas hoping for leviathan

[supple epoch]

don't forget to drag your Illuvitars to your Ranger to add the different perks combos good luck !

[lilac stag]

Im glad that we have a punishment in the form of minus points, at least for the last 2 places 🙏

[violet summit]

I didn't know this bug was still a thing

[vale zephyr]

Hello, i just joined a lobby and get disconnected. Can't join it again

[violet summit]

im in 2 lobbies at the same time

first lobby got a error and no way to reconnect

do I lose points in the old lobby? how does it work?

@zenith mortar @worn tree

[thick estuary]

same cant join

as spectator too

[vale zephyr]

Round 0, started 26 mins ago, so no one is in this lobby

[languid sparrow]

Shouldn't there be an event on the Illuvium Discord for each tournament, according to the Illuvium Pro League [ILP] schedule, starting with August 16, 2025, in UTC time? @zenith mortar

[void dust]

I'm just trying to confirm that the tournament starts at 1pm Eastern Time tomorrow. I missed the last tournament because I can't do time properly. TY

[zenith mortar]

Yes there should be 🫠

[vale zephyr]

Sometimes i think the unit pool is bugged when you search for an illuvial used by someone who lost. When your in 1v1, the other guy don't have anyone of your needed illuvial and it doesn't appear in the shop after a lot of roll.

[mellow bolt]

My life story … they will figure it out one day. idk who’s calling the shots but Leviathan ascendant gauntlet is the end all be all, End game that makes me hopeful for the future. Arena gauntlet is cool for free play arcade but not for the pro league that makes no sense.

Money tournament and this is the user experience not being able to build a team or get the cool units hahaha 😂

[vale zephyr]

You had Ronaldo 98 TPI in a FIFA ultimate team pack card and can't play with it 🥺

[mellow bolt]

😂😂

[jolly whale]

Would be really good if some very clever noodlehead @zenith mortar put a tournament count down timer on their amazing datakingz website! I hear he's got nothing to do anyway 😘😘

[jolly whale]

I used to think that!

Buuut what I think is actually happening. The illuvial your looking for is in someone else's shop and they are not buying it or refreshing so you have 0% chance of finding it!

Your better off doing 3-4 refreshes then waiting till next round and trying again

[zenith mortar]

I will

[rancid raptor]

is this how it is now? 3 of the 4 top players contesting harbringer among themselves?

furyz man cmon you can do better than that

[jolly whale]

Excellent.. I will keep reminding you... because I'm annoying like that!

[light garnet]

Don't worry, Rich is used to annoying...
@west plume bugs him non-stop

[jolly whale]

Can can only dream of reaching that level!

[mellow bolt]

Is that the new mete they went hard last night

[worldly remnant]

where can i see my match history?

[rancid raptor]

Sorry no clue what happened last night

[zenith mortar]

https://illuvilytics.web.app/players/ToxixGenius

or whatever your in game name is

At the end there

[uncut comet]

rich come voice

i need the best player to talk with

[zenith mortar]

Im sweeping the floor on Level 60s

My new baby @west plume

[west plume]

not even a DH Rich

[zenith mortar]

pff i dont need a dh

[jolly whale]

Send me 1 Ryplance and I'll send you 2 back!

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/elonrwa-elon-musk-rwaelon-real-world-asset-elon-meme-gif-11697316937344721788

[low comet]

our match ended @analog sandal ?

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[west plume]

Its a great unit, I wish I had😃

I really need to get my Berserker team Levithan ready.

How are the prices now?is getting expensive?

[west plume]

There is a reason for that ser…have you heard all the shit Rich throws at me on the podcasts😆

[copper phoenix]

You've also experienced this. I've completely broken down under this kind of mindset and keep cycling through these three images.

[valid stirrup]

That my ryplance 44 $

41 lvl we grow together we stay together 💪😅😎

[copper phoenix]

Now, once I get disconnected, I can only reconnect to the server after the current game ends. That's why my ranking can never be high—because I lose a lot of points every time I get disconnected, and disconnections happen very frequently.

[west plume]

I had that once yesterday, failed to connect two times and then it connected on the third attempt
Did you get in?

[west plume]

No VPN and good internet connection?

[copper phoenix]

It's impossible to get in. Since last month, this situation has occurred both when I'm at the company and at home. I use different VPNs at home and at the company. All other software can connect normally except ILV. I've tried restarting the client, restarting the computer, and restarting the router, but none of these worked.

[west plume]

Pc specs good aswell?
I assume you sent in a bug report?

[copper phoenix]

Is my configuration sufficient?

[west plume]

That would work yes😃

[copper phoenix]

I'm having a mental breakdown.

[low comet]

Sameee, the game ended and my mmr increased. But some games it wont record.

[low comet]

I think this was the case on my end. Because I was browsing while playing when it happened.

[ivory saddle]

Sorry to hear that. You were also in our game that just ended, afk/disconnected

[copper phoenix]

I'm almost getting used to it. I mentioned this issue last month, and I've gone through it countless times since then. It's just that today I happened to see someone else encountering the same problem.

Great, here we go again. I need to wait another 40 minutes.

[west plume]

And you can never reconnect to the game?

[copper phoenix]

It's not certain. Sometimes it's very smooth throughout the day.

[west plume]

How many games does it happen on?

% out of the number of games you play

[west plume]

Do you have a support ticket number?

[copper phoenix]

It's been too many times, and I've lost count.

[copper phoenix]

I just submitted it again in the game.

[analog sandal]

Only saw it now 😅

[west plume]

Most likely tied to your VPN, could you try to play with out?

[copper phoenix]

I'll try again later.

[zenith mortar]

@umbral oracle live now

8B9DC5

Spectate to watch him lose

[west plume]

@zenith mortar

Question

[zenith bough]

Miss playing leviathan

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/sigma-ok-lars-gif-25474530

[west plume]

You know I hate that Gif

Also

When is the IPL trailer dropping?

This weekend?

[zenith mortar]

before the semi final i think

[native mauve]

Send it!

[torpid trellis]

@zenith mortar the page is working? https://illuvilytics.web.app/ - it shows blank page for me 🫣

[zenith mortar]

should be back up

peter and i pushing changes

[west plume]

https://x.com/kieranwarwick/status/1954883271206248899?s=46&t=_162LfDX7Pl5brRIuSRWEQ

Kieran.eth (@KieranWarwick)

We're premiering our Official Arena Launch trailer at the start of the Illuvium Pro League in just 5 days.

This one has got me hyped.

X · Aug 11, 2025, 12:31 PM

Kieran mentioned it would launch at the start

[terse rampart]

@copper phoenix you are in game

[sinful hornet]

is there a way to mute my own emotes?

[copper phoenix]

I know. I've been struggling all along.

[blazing fractal]

When arena reset?

Why arena score not reset weekly?

[vale zephyr]

It reset monthly. Most of people didn't like weekly, monthly is more compétitive i think

[blazing fractal]

So Then top 100 remain a top 100. While others always sinking score. Because the matchmaking is keep sinking the new one.

I hope they increase the ai to fight for newbie and practice also. until they reach back to 1200 score again to compete for pro players.

[supple epoch]

I have trouble competing in rank and keeping score because I lose a couple hundred points and then it's just so negative I can never gain any avg 6th place

[mighty tulip]

Damn man, I was in that game too. Sucks to see people locked out and come 8th.

[dark scaffold]

looks like the Chronoflux is so OP, other augments not even close ^^

[west plume]

Don't nerf it

[low comet]

No it's not 😄 😄 😄

Let me enjoy it first :/

[gloomy mural]

@worn tree does crit omega work at omega aa? like scoriox or some ranger weapons?

[mighty tulip]

Comes with a fighter imprint in a drone augment. Probably picked by most players so that's why it's over represented in the stats maybe

[dark scaffold]

ahh, ok ok

[mighty tulip]

It is a very versatile augment though. You can put it on most illuvials and get value. I wouldn't say it OP it's just guaranteed value no matter what team you play

[dark scaffold]

I tend to pick it as well cuz is very simple to understand 😅

[fluid mantle]

I had some doubts about today's tournament.

Will the 24 players who scored the most points in those four hours advance to the next round?

[warm isle]

Yeah

[bronze spire]

yea not including any that finish top 8 on leaderboard. Eg 25th playing will get in if a top 8 players (ladder) is in the top 24 (sit and go)

[primal flax]

And it’s going to happen since 6-10 players are next to each other in points

[bronze spire]

Yep haha

Glad I don’t have to. Both because it’s 1 am for me and sounds stressful

[warm isle]

Sad I need to

[turbid osprey]

Yes 1pm tomorrow tournament and 1pm today for the qualifications

[worn tree]

Yes, but is triggered when aa crits (same source of probability)

[bronze spire]

Goodluck!

[frozen tartan]

@spring basin you ok?

[spring basin]

Yeah why wouldn't I be? 😄 I just missed the first creep round so 1 item down

[frozen tartan]

i cant reconnect

[frozen tartan]

i love this game

lose my win streak

thanks game

[spring basin]

Oh really? It says you are not disconected

[frozen tartan]

game give me fire aug

thanks

amasing gameplay

[mellow star]

When does the competition start?In 3 hours?

[languid sparrow]

For the tournament… we don’t know what the prize pool distribution will be.
Who will get the IPL + 250? Is there missing information, or am I just not finding it?

[safe valve]

yes

[mellow star]

ty

[frozen tartan]

That’s a special kind of pleasure.

[mighty tulip]

Nooo! @ivory saddle 🤣. GG

https://tenor.com/view/will-smith-nnooo-no-nope-never-gif-16214908

[ivory saddle]

haha gg

[viral moss]

I should really get into the new version.

[west plume]

2 hours until sit and go qualifier

What is the current meta?

Asking for a friend

[gloomy mural]

rogues revenants still op

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-guts-berserk-gif-26213154

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-yea-baby-damn-right-gif-21574723

[zenith mortar]

from the article

[west plume]

Iam going to buy so much stuff with my winnings🥳

[noble hinge]

Play against Torial to have a better chance of winning no matter which Illuvials you play.

[west plume]

Is a good chance I will monitor the live games before finding match🤭

[noble hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/tkt-smart-gif-20642718

[west plume]

Hunt for Rich😀

[noble hinge]

All I know is use Chronoflux.

[west plume]

My worst nightmare is to actually qualify for Finals, and then have the commentators say “what on earth is he doing”, “that makes no sense”, “why did he place the units there, that's the worst place for that unit” etc

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/gotta-go-fast-sonic-the-hedgehog-fast-speed-motion-blur-gif-18342829

[west plume]

First pick always

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/troy-brad-pitt-thats-why-no-one-will-remember-your-name-gif-16617148

[noble hinge]

I have gotten over the anxiety of knowing that I might be appearing on someone's Twitch/X stream with the person streaming saying "Oh, I am just up against Torial. I am going to go get a drink of water, I will be back in a minute guys" and then having all the spectators watch me lose while one of our pro types is off in the kitchen snacking.

[mellow bolt]

Four hour sit and go?

[terse rampart]

Oh i cant wait for them to comment on how i play. U wanna get stressed? Comment on my game hahaha

[languid sparrow]

I can't find the article source 🫣

[west plume]

😂 that's harsh Torial

[noble hinge]

Sometimes reality is pretty nasty.
But I am going to come play today for a bit because it is good to stay humble.😁

[lilac stag]

Tournament starts in 1 hour and 15 minutes, right ?

Is there specific rules like be in discord voice channel ?

[west plume]

Nope

Just play in that 4 hour window

[mellow bolt]

Negative points for seventh and eighth place correct for the tournament bracket

[west plume]

As many games you can

[mellow bolt]

Sorry, I mean for the sit and go

[low comet]

Sit n go normal ranked, IPL leviathan?

[charred matrix]

arena ranked

[low comet]

Also the main event on december still not leviathan?

[mighty tulip]

So we need quick games in this 4 hour period. You watch, I'll get that damn 130hp drone health region in every game 😅

[zenith bough]

anyone want to play some <@&1400508814910029907>

[scarlet spindle]

Arent we in a sit n go qualifier right now?

[zenith bough]

I guess we are

[mighty tulip]

56mins till start isn't it?

[zenith mortar]

yeah you probably got timr for 1 game

[low comet]

Rich, are all IPL up until december main event normal ranked mode? Not leviathan?

[mighty tulip]

Nah I'm warmed up already. I ain't risking a bad game to put me on tilt 😅

[zenith mortar]

unless anything changes im fairly sure yes ranked

[zenith mortar]

oooo warmed up?

i gotta see this

[zenith bough]

did you hear anything on this?

[ivory saddle]

@valid stirrup Game up

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/alone-karu-cute-frog-karu-love-gif-7237856804154422123

[scarlet spindle]

Yeah my bad, the converter was wrong. Right now its noon to me, or 1700, but the rest of the world says its an hour behond.

Daylight savings crap

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-pablo-stan-twt-standing-grandpa-gif-15901735077073339091

[zenith bough]

Only playing behemoth from now on in Leviathan

[zenith mortar]

weak

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/merry-christmas-grinch-santa-claus-hohoho-gif-13138416

[weary sinew]

Is it actually not leviathan? The tournament's?

[zenith mortar]

yeah its not

kieran talked about adding some in

but yeah they didnt get any in ytet

i think maybe council going to work on it

[weary sinew]

🤣 🤣 count me out at this point i don't play out off ego . Levy or nothing

I was lvl ing up ....but honesty idk why we trow so much normal gauntlet....it can be attacked by multi and it's not so fun as levy.

[jolly zealot]

I'm coming to play even though I'm terrible 😂 . Enjoy the free points!

[weary sinew]

Yeah....not enough excitement.

[charred matrix]

not up to me to answer that haha

[noble hinge]

I am too for a few hours - I have a meeting later. I hope we get lots of people of all skill levels playing.

[spring basin]

@zenith mortarIs the leaderboard snapshot at 21:00? UTC

[zenith mortar]

yes

[spring basin]

Okey thanks 🙏

[worn tree]

Negative, please reach Joseph

[zenith bough]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-squirrel-me-calling-my-gif-20946999

[terse rampart]

@jolly zealot @noble hinge join the -7 guild. the pros of the pro hahaha is @rancid yacht here?

[noble hinge]

What is this? There is a guild for bad players? I love it!

[rancid yacht]

I am 🤣🤣

[unreal siren]

It will be such an honor to be absolutely obliterated by you all. Best of luck!

[terse rampart]

lets goooo

[tawny dove]

@zenith mortar let us know the second you press queue!

[naive mantle]

good luck all! lets have fun!

[tawny dove]

GL

[zenith mortar]

Go GO GO

RANKED QUEUE GO

[tawny dove]

4 x Brightland games inc

[rancid raptor]

hows the point system?

gl hf

[fluid mantle]

Do matches that started before 17:00 also count as points?

[warm isle]

Yes

[zenith bough]

They do not

[rancid raptor]

how do i unfreeze oponents board?

to see when he moves units

[zenith bough]

you can't, it is a bug

[warm isle]

Click other person's board

[zenith bough]

wait really?

😮

[fluid mantle]

Does anyone know how the points system works?

[warm isle]

Check the tournament in illuvilytic

[fluid raptor]

these are not real right?

16 points after 40 mins?

live results it says XD

[zenith mortar]

thats the other tournametn

thats place holders

https://illuvilytics.web.app/tournaments?tournament=aws-1754934377663&tab=leaderboard

use this one

[fluid raptor]

tnx 🙂

[tawny dove]

2 players with psion earth shield. Legit did 20k dmg in the first 3 sec of every match. Broken AF

[fluid raptor]

@zenith mortar I was 4th, and got 1 point instead of 2?

[zenith mortar]

ill check it now

[zenith mortar]

it just needs to refresh

[fluid raptor]

oh. nice. where did 1 came from haha Xed

[zenith mortar]

because it was estimating where you were at that time

placed that is

[fluid raptor]

tnx dude 🙂

[severe marten]

@umbral oracle Im on my lunch break at work and wanted to play arena please make arena on mobile phone soon 🙏

[fluid raptor]

@zenith mortar sorry to disturb, and I believe it is refreshed for you but at my end it is still same. 2nd time 4th and it says I have played 2 games with 4th average and 2 points still

[zenith mortar]

if you refresh the page does it sshow it

[fluid raptor]

no. tried refresh and shit+f5

still the same

[west quartz]

do we have to register for the qualifiers ?

or just play games ?

[fluid raptor]

you just play ranked for 3 more hours dude. check announcements

[zenith mortar]

ok looking into it

[gloomy mural]

@hot pond fck I didnt have time to replace units

unlucky

[hot pond]

dude i got fucking DC in weapon choice and got random psion drone augment

what a shit that was

[gloomy mural]

ye when I saw u 1 hp I thought its end for you but you had good rolls xd

[hot pond]

i had to go yolo roll everything, hit jotun or bust lol

but for sure the craziest match ive ever had

[zenith mortar]

I had the wrong number in the settings you have 4 now

[fluid raptor]

tnx dude XD I thought that would have been the problem 🙂

[mellow star]

Guys, is there another leaderboard for the competition that I can check out?

[naive mantle]

i got 6th and 4th, shouldnt i have 2 pts?

[mellow star]

Where can I find this?

[naive mantle]

@zenith mortar

[zenith mortar]

you do

just wait to refresh a bit

[naive mantle]

oh weird, i even refreshed the website, but thank you 🙂 ❤️

[zenith mortar]

ill make it more live updates soon

dont want to break it right n ow

[mellow star]

ok I find it

[fluid raptor]

@zenith mortar ok dude but just for your notice 3 4th place and 3 points still XD

[fluid raptor]

yeah I still see 3 points with 3 games 🙂

[south geyser]

At least you can find your name showing up on the site, lol

[zenith mortar]

hmm well my page is live ill try to see whats going on

[fluid raptor]

he will fix it but currently it has flows and we cant see 🙂

[zenith mortar]

and my points showing correct

but yeah lemme look

Sorry hit this refresh button once and it shoulod show properly

@fluid raptor

@ebon flume

[fluid raptor]

oh so that was the problem thanx XD I thought browser refresh

[zenith mortar]

no, in future you wont need to do this but again i dont want to break it today lol

[lilac stag]

here we just need to get top 24 right? doesnt matter top 1 or top 24 ?

[dark scaffold]

well, there goes my dreams about pro carrier

[weary sinew]

So i just have to play ranked? I am bored anyway.

[zenith mortar]

yes

[ebon flume]

Yes, you just need to play ranked and be top 24

[fluid raptor]

😂 what a fresh carrier XD

[dark scaffold]

career!!!!!!!!!!!! its late 😛

[rancid raptor]

dang game just crashed my whole pc

[lilac stag]

can someone pls send here final score system ?

[rancid raptor]

when is interest gians calculated?i noticed its not at the end of the round

[lilac stag]

i thought this one is point system

but in leaderboard the other system so which one is correct?

[west quartz]

do the game started before 21:00 but finishing after cut off gets counted ?

[warm isle]

The othe system

[jolly zealot]

gl dr spoon it's a close match

[west quartz]

@zenith mortar is it worth launching another game now ?

[zenith mortar]

yeah you can play games all the up until

as long as they start before 2100 utc

[west quartz]

great 🙂

[gloomy mural]

sit&go the worst tournament rule ever

[zenith mortar]

what dont you like

[gloomy mural]

lost 4 hours because Im noob

in tournaments where u need to get top 4 by points to go next I would lost 1-2 hours

[drowsy oriole]

how if the match not finish in time, but its still on going before the times up?

[gloomy mural]

this is the best imho but Im sure the most likes sit&go because everybody has chances not only pros just you need luck and nothing else

[hot pond]

i mean its just playing leaderboard ranked games as normal too. So it isnt really a "waste"

[zenith mortar]

you can earn fuel and such

raffle tickets

[hot pond]

or just climb leaderboard

[west plume]

anything for top 62 spots?

[south geyser]

Biting my nails waiting to get knocked out of top 24 by people just finishing their matches....

[hot pond]

https://tenor.com/view/nail-biter-nervous-anxious-sponge-bob-square-pants-gif-3561117

[south geyser]

What do we do if we made it? Come back tomorrow same time?

Wait...ends 5:30?

[zenith mortar]

top 8 locked in

[south geyser]

I thought it was over 15 minutes ago?

[rancid raptor]

what a grind, am i in?

[south geyser]

Should I be playing 1 more or nah?

[hot pond]

its over since 15min. only the games started before that are still valid for it

[south geyser]

Kk, thought so, but the event banner says it ends in 15 minutes so I was makin' sure, lol

[hot pond]

maybe just to make sure to consider the ongoing games

[zenith mortar]

no games dont count anymore

the only games that count started before the hour

they should be wrapping up soon

[warm isle]

Gogo play more thanatos

[south geyser]

Interesting bug with the tourney rankings. I have 22 pts, but after reloading it's reverted me to 16 for some reason. How reliable are the rank displays?

Refresh and it jumps back up. So I guess be sure to refresh a few times to see where you're at while things are still resolving

[fluid raptor]

maybe it should be first 64 🙂 everybody is qualified to play ilv here XD there is little to none noob playing here XD

[unreal siren]

Well that was embarrassing...At least I can have the relief of knowing that I am absolutely not good enough to enter future events.

[viral marsh]

just learn meta. play more to have more exp, and try again

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-the-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-mandalorian-i-have-spoken-baby-yoda-gif-24159898

[high snow]

@zenith mortar how are tie breakers handled?

[unreal siren]

Yeah that just further cements it for me. I have no additional time to give. And playing meta for the sake of playing meta just doesn't interest me. Hate to say it, might be time to move on from Arena.

[sinful hornet]

just abuse the only 2 playable things in the game KEKW

[zenith mortar]

On my site?

if you hit the refresh button on right

that refreshes accurately

i also have backend sheet tracking as back up

[viral marsh]

you about this?

[warm isle]

Abused it

[sinful hornet]

earth weapons and rogues ye, literally can't play anything else

[warm isle]

One more is magma Scoriox carry

[sinful hornet]

without earth weapon?

[warm isle]

But got countered by that weapon

[sinful hornet]

he'll just kill himself in oponent then

[warm isle]

If against rogue Scoriox can win

[sinful hornet]

but if it's composite game it needs to highroll insanely hard to beat midroll revenants

[viral marsh]

if agaist perfect aug/4rev - not sure

[warm isle]

I lost still to Scoriox with 5 revenants

With legendary item range+ the crit and dmg

[viral marsh]

you need not only 4/5 rev. put on right unit, choice right aug/weapon amp. late game

[warm isle]

Yeah got the best aug already

[viral marsh]

best aug = stack 100% crit for revenant?

[warm isle]

Yeah

[sinful hornet]

what is that

[viral marsh]

then he not hit i gues

[warm isle]

The legendary item that give Omni+dmg+crit

[sinful hornet]

oh augment = item

[warm isle]

Yeah I guess so

[viral marsh]

still a joke in game

if replace last aug with atack range legendary = perfect

[unreal siren]

So this is kind of my feeling ATM, is that you just have to play the meta and hope the augments fall in your favor. At which point we're basically just playing a game of High Stakes "Who Got Lucky With RNG"

It becomes less of a strategy game and more of a casino dice game.

I know Im oversimplifying, but the response I got was A) play more, or B) abuse the meta

[void dust]

@zenith mortar - Hi - did payouts happen yet for the last tournament? I don't think I've received mine yet. TY

[sinful hornet]

that will always be the case in autobattlers, but the current problem is that one build is actually gamebreaking

and also weapons and suits are actually just such atrocious for agency cuz u literally can't ever pivot after round 2 in 90% of the games

[rancid raptor]

game is not in a terrible state, its fun, i really dont like how weapons and suits work atm. They suck

rework that and balance a bit more and we have a game

just my opinion

[hot pond]

The 2 earth shields and 4th rev are the issues

[rancid raptor]

earth harbringer is insane and braindead

[sinful hornet]

u pay nothing for the ranger so he should never be a top carry

[viral marsh]

meta mean not onnly 2-3 builds.
if you use all potential of weapon/oponent you got. you can win not only with "meta"

[rancid raptor]

either put price on suits and weapons or make them more standard

[viral marsh]

problem in shield mechanic/not in harbinger

[unreal siren]

No, YOU can. You're a Top 3 player. We are not the same skill level lol. It's like getting soccer tips from Pele....world's apart.

[viral marsh]

you know guys that 4 harbinger not work? or work wrong?
4 harbinger dmg around 0.5-1% - you think it's good for 4 synergy?xD

[rancid raptor]

this is kind of a problem with harbringer

[warm isle]

Yeah that weapon is strong haha

Omega skill not composite

[viral marsh]

even without this skill. shield can do 10-20k dmg in 5 sec, without stacking this

[sinful hornet]

if they fix the earth weapons i think nature empath is just gonna be broken itself

[warm isle]

Yeah no counter

[rancid raptor]

dont forget aegis

[viral marsh]

but they can't fix it. they nerf it 2 patch before. but problem in weapon mechanic/not in traits they nerf

[sinful hornet]

make it reflect magic dmg instead of pure

but that weapon can only be broken or useless, there's not really a comp u can build with it with enough dmg otherwise

[viral marsh]

you can build different.
it's different builds as well.
but to all this work, every weapon should stay at same "step".
and as soon they nerf this. or delete. i already know which will be x1.5-2 stronger that other.
it's no balance at weapon system now, at my opinion

[sinful hornet]

they can never be balanced, they should just do what they did with drone augments and gut all the weapons and let the units be the actual carries

and just treat weapons as basically synergy crates

[viral marsh]

you have nature sword, with weak synergys/weak early game. or other fighter weapon which doing x1.5-x2 dmg at early/ have high potential in mid-late game with traits/synergys.
you have water gun, which doing x2 of any other psyon weapons in early game.
etc

[viral marsh]

they have made them same. with same stats/traits.
like they made with lynx. then probably ranger will be just synergy.
but still - look on tsunami/spore and on frost/harbinger

[drowsy oriole]

am i counted?

[lilac stag]

when will the final leaderboard be published? I still don't understand what point system we played by, it feels like points weren't taken away even for top 7-8

[sinful hornet]

they were i ate a 7th

[south geyser]

Guess I'm out with my 22, lol

[zenith mortar]

Brackets Are NOT Final - Will be randomised before start

[latent osprey]

is there a prize pool ?

[latent osprey]

oh so only top 8

[zenith mortar]

Plus there is IPL Points

for all 32

[lime cloak]

Rich could you check one of the matches... just want to make sure it's counted correctly.

The 2nd match I played is listed as "in Progress". I cant check the final standing in that match, but I think I finished 5th. and didnt get the points from that.

[fluid raptor]

maybe that Ipl should be 2 for first 32 then 1 for rest of the 64.

[zenith mortar]

yes lemme check

[fluid raptor]

30-40-50 players are crying atm XD

[sinful hornet]

ok who put the same magnet on me and slickz

do we have to do something on the site/check in or just show up and play?

[tropic forge]

It seems is just a placeholder atm

[safe valve]

IPL info

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-pro-league-can-you-compete

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-stop-jack-nicholson-stop-the-press-gif-14728364

[lime cloak]

@zenith mortar is it possible to check the match Id for: eb778c18-f8da-4001-b6b5-63e457a7eaaa
just to check if I finished as 5th or 6th in that one. (Just want to double check points are counting correctly on the site) 🙂

[zenith mortar]

yes im checking now

there is a few games it said are finished but no end time

which isnt right

so needd to make sure it scored you guys for them

[tropic forge]

That game should´ve scored , that was the one that put Thanatos on 2nd place on the Leaderboard.

[zenith mortar]

it actually might be a bit different 5 games dont have an end time

trying to see who didnt get points

[tropic forge]

Yeah but specially that game did scored, because it shows 7 games for him on Illuvytics

don´t really know about other games.

[zenith mortar]

Ok found the issue

[tropic forge]

so did "in progress" matches counted?

[zenith mortar]

it did count them yes but didnt score them correctly:

it used some other scoring system i dont know why lol

like second should get 5 pts there

[tropic forge]

Did that issue happened with the "in progress" games, or with all games?

[zenith mortar]

only in progress

because they had no end time

[tropic forge]

oh, so they added points but wrong points then? u´ll have to check manually

[zenith mortar]

no im fixing

website will update shortly

yes they got points

[lime cloak]

good you found the issue, that's the main thing 🙂

[tropic forge]

yeah that makes sense, that´s why total games were correct. so the issue was with points. Weird stuff

[zenith mortar]

the wierder thing is why those games still dont have an end time

i didnt plan for that lol

[woeful pawn]

am i still in ? T_T

had to leave mid tournament

[tropic forge]

Yeah they did scored points, because Hollow and Thanatos got first on 2 of those "in progress games" and got their points updated. Perhaps wrong points tough, u´ll need to check that.
It says points system "default"... did you have a default point system on your website other that this one for IPL ? Perhaps it took that old system in the case of these "in progress matches"...

[tropic forge]

Yeah you are there , on top of me 😆

[zenith mortar]

yeah its fixed now

[mellow bolt]

Hey everybody great tournament today. I had a lot of fun. I’m working on a YouTube video. The channel’s been getting a lot of views and I wanna make a hype video talking about the illuvium pro league. if anybody has 4K footage from spectator mode, that would be amazing. I have a Google Drive. Just let me know and I can send you the link preferably as soon as possible or tonight as I am going to record it and have it done and posted by tomorrow morning

[woeful pawn]

had time to play 4 games, i was sure whould be out

my life its a mess right now

[tropic forge]

no, you are there. You are 22 and i´m 23 🤣

[ashen mango]

If so it counted as +1 since you had 3x7 + 2x5 points and ended up with 32 points

[tropic forge]

I knew i was missing 1 Point!!! 🤣

[zenith mortar]

omg

i thought i was going crazy

my website kept reverting my change from 5th getting 1 to 5th getting 0

[fluid raptor]

so it means I am first

[tropic forge]

oh, that was the issue then. I was 5th one game, perhaps all that ended 5th were missing their point.

[zenith mortar]

Ok the only person that was swapped was @lime cloak and @drowsy oriole

again the brackets arent final

will be randomised at start

[drowsy oriole]

😭

[zenith mortar]

twas a matter of 1 pt im sorry my fren

but you are a backup

[drowsy oriole]

no prob mate, actually im pretty sure that i wont qualified😆🤣

becarefull he is cheat 🤪 @primal flax

[zenith mortar]

we should push a balance patch tonight @hollow citrus

do it

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-10341555270454130792

[primal flax]

I got the 8th place to give you the spot ❤️

[rancid raptor]

is there anywhere where we can see match history?

[warm isle]

How does the matchup set?

[zenith mortar]

it will be random tomorrow

If you made the top 32 and want to repost would appreciate: https://x.com/illuviumio/status/1956512758620713216

@arctic steppe @uncut comet @hot pond @bronze spire @viral marsh etc everyone else who made it dont want bot to ban me

Illuvium (@illuviumio)

🎉 Massive congratulations to the 32 qualifiers of the IPL 250! Eight earned their spots from the ranked leaderboard snapshot, while 24 battled through today’s epic 4-hour Sit & Go with 125 matches and 251 unique participants. What a wild ride—huge props to everyone who joined

X · Aug 16, 2025, 12:26 AM

[cursive echo]

I lost my first match -3 points, I had a disconnection

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/pakistan-cricket-fan-pakistan-fan-cricket-angry-fan-angry-fan-angry-man-gif-19825067

[zenith mortar]

Didn't the same happen last time

[mighty tulip]

Yeah lol

[mellow bolt]

7\8 leviathan

[viral marsh]

new record

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[sinful hornet]

u need to hit the refresh button on the site to show correctly im at 29

[sinful hornet]

what was enemy team?

[viral marsh]

it was enemy. 90% his dmg - this shield

[sinful hornet]

what was your team then

a lot of empath tanks?

[viral marsh]

Blazenite with x2 chronoflux. hit>hit>hit>almost die>heal

[sinful hornet]

i don't understand why even blazenite and scoriox keep hitting forever and they deal 5 dmg per attack into tanks

even with pierce item

[tawny dove]

This is so lame. Feels almost worse than the Rev shiet last month.

[dark vine]

can we have revenant meta back. The earth shields are just too ridiculous.

[viral marsh]

for revenant you should build 7 rog stage 2.
for shield you have just pick it

[sinful hornet]

u also need to hit teantee axon

sometimes it takes 50 gold to find one

but that shield is basically as close as u can get to a non exploit exploit

[ashen mango]

3x7 + 5x2 = 31
29-31 = -2
So you had a -2? It shouldn't be possible

[sinful hornet]

isn't 7 -2?

[ashen mango]

Oh you're right

I thought that it was -1

[ashen mango]

Can we reshuffle @zenith mortar? 😅

[lilac stag]

I prefer not to reshuffle these groups) 😁

[uncut comet]

groups not final

[ashen mango]

I'm relieved 😌

[hot pond]

Our group is crazy 🤣🤣

[uncut comet]

i though the same 😂

[zenith mortar]

we will either random reshuffle or maybe do seeding based on mmr will chat to @umbral oracle

[sinful hornet]

wait how is the bulwark weapon reflect actually energy dmg? why are tanks killing themselves into it too?

[warm isle]

Two group are crazy

[sinful hornet]

are we play the same group twice instead of reseeding?

[lilac stag]

What about invites to the next IPL tournament? I hope now invites will be given out depending on the results of the past IPL and not just invite the same people who hold the top 8 of the ladder every time

[sinful hornet]

i mean it should obviously be both and then some "influencers"

[sinful hornet]

but would be a lot better if say 40~ spots are tournament points/ladder/influencer invites and then 24 are some last chance qualifier

[tawny dove]

Something to think of for the team in the future when we have a larger player base. At that time we will (hopefully) have matchmaking based on ratings in gauntlet. However if qualification for the IPLs are still SnG’s, then this would open a window for “exploiting” your way to the tournaments easier.
I can use myself as an example. I’d say I’m a decent top 50 player. BUT for me to qualify playing the SnG at this rating would be very very tough. So, as I dont really care for getting 0.5-1 ILV weekly from my LB, I could just completely tank my LB\MMR to fight way easier opponents in the IPL qualifiers.

Again, this is not really an issue for now, but with MMR and a large player base, this can and probably will become reality.

[sinful hornet]

at that point u can just hold swiss tourneys with hundreds of players

and if you seed the top of the leaderboard in the first round you solve it

[tawny dove]

Yea there would be several ways to get around it. Current format just wont work.

[obtuse summit]

Hey man! what rank is top 100 now? im 1418 but its been 4 days since this. cant see what rank required

[viral marsh]

you can open LB in game, and scroll down to check it

[bronze spire]

Can’t check right now but pretty sure you can see either in game or on the website. Last time I checked for you was via the website

[supple epoch]

anyone else on their computer why checking arena LB getting a bug from the leaderboard trying to get you to join Discord with a link

[bronze spire]

https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/leaderboard/gauntlet-ranked

mine seems to work

[warm isle]

Did you click names

[warm isle]

Go sleep web

[supple epoch]

Server error pops up of thos links as well hmm..

Logs you out saying join the discord refresh fix it for 30sec

[warm isle]

It worked for me

[supple epoch]

Soon as you try loading up the scroll why scrolling down i get that msg pops up on phone and pc ?

[bronze spire]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-duck-sleep-gif-12073235593935901891

[supple epoch]

Vpns off also not sure

CAPTCHA?

Trying say i am a bot??

redirecting me to sign up for Discord again

Makes it hard check others score - rank

[safe valve]

hmm... i have the same as soon as i scroll a little bit down

[pliant jay]

hey guys, I am so confused right now. Isnt the IPL Day 2 supposed to start in 3 hours?

why is it showing the match results?

[uncut comet]

they just ordered us by ranking

[sullen vessel]

Any ideas on how the ranking system works for example I am on a massive losing streak coming 7 and 8th most games the people above a leaps and bounds better than me getting synergies early etc. What I am trying to work out is if Im still losing 10-15 ranking points every game is it the fact that they are also close to the ranking ? I would have thought that if im say 1000 and the rest above are 1500 and above I wouldnt lose points because I have been matched unfairly and If I come say 6th i would game more rank. Hope that make sense just wondering how far im going to fall before it stops taking ranking points away.

[supple epoch]

I originally had trouble making a Discord name it contained the ilv being with silver I was trying to join for 6 months before I contacted somebody to get in haha

https://tenor.com/view/stapler-gif-8270633

[dark scaffold]

@safe valve reported it to us ( ) and team is informed 🙏

[sinful hornet]

there's no mmr, ur losses and wins don't really change anything for you, you're like a kid in a kids team playing against messi

[zenith mortar]

Im testing things

no worries

it will reset

[pliant jay]

cool, i thought i didnt read the announcement correctly and missed it

[tropic forge]

Rich is working on a time machine and already knows who will win ...

https://tenor.com/view/austin-powers-gif-austin-powers-austinpowers-austin-powers-movie-austin-powers-movies-gif-14288338958854357370

[zenith mortar]

shit im trying to get it working properly before we start lol

[primal flax]

we need to be in discord for the day2?

or check-in somewhere

[zenith mortar]

yeah discord

and youll checkin on the website

[sullen vessel]

Lol ok so ill just enjoy losing every game until theres enough other losers to play with at this rate Ill be down around 200mmr this is going to be fun for new comers thats for sure

[viral marsh]

or you can learn game, and then dive into ranked.
rating reset in 1.5 week, so i'm not think you get to 200mmr

[calm raven]

Did they pay out the Polemos tournament prizes? I haven't received anything.

[tropic forge]

it seems not yet.

[calm raven]

Do you know if it will be via 'My rewards' ?

[zenith mortar]

Its submitted

will be early next week i imagine

[tropic forge]

so 50 minutes for the final?

[zenith mortar]

yes

[tropic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thorobr-rng-fire-elmo-gif-14506283

[warm isle]

So does it random for the grouping?

[zenith mortar]

I think we gonna do MMR seeding

[calm raven]

Is the prize structure the same as shown on the website?

[zenith mortar]

you guys should be able to checkin

[zenith mortar]

yee

[arctic steppe]

seeding based would be the right call if it’s possible to do

[zenith mortar]

yep

its possible

and i did it

lol

[calm raven]

So much hate for loosers in final table 😂

[arctic steppe]

nice!

[zenith mortar]

7/32 checked in

[lilac stag]

how to check in

[zenith mortar]

https://illuvilytics.web.app/tournaments?tournament=aws-1755292282101&tab=participants

14/32

[tropic forge]

So where´s our Trailer Rich?!! i has hyped with that

[zenith mortar]

kieran said before the semis

[tropic forge]

ohhh

[zenith mortar]

20/32 checked in

@mighty tulip watching intently

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/put-me-in-coach-im-ready-to-play-hubie-dubois-adam-sandler-hubie-halloween-gif-18745474

[tropic forge]

Rich it would be great if you guys can explain how does the final on December will work. I mean, if we are carrying IPL points , I'm assuming like all 64 or at least 32 that make it (to the final) will get rewards right?
Tbh i don´t feel like i have a big chance on these tournaments with 8 spot prizes, and many players feel like me. It would be really a shame to compete like for 4 months and realize the final event is a prize for 8 people.
I guess we are missing some kind of roadmap to explain the benefits of getting those points and the final rewards.

[zenith mortar]

we missing @viral marsh @bronze spire @glass gulch @calm raven @turbid osprey @gloomy grove

@ashen mango

@inner orbit

@native mauve

@pliant jay

[gloomy grove]

Here

[zenith mortar]

please check in on website

https://illuvilytics.web.app/tournaments?tournament=aws-1755292282101&tab=participants

[gloomy grove]

10min in house

[warm isle]

Do we need to login firdt

[zenith mortar]

yes

[native mauve]

Hey @zenith mortar am I all good now?

[pliant jay]

done

[bronze spire]

Here

[zenith mortar]

check in ples ser on website

@gloomy grove

@turbid osprey

[turbid osprey]

just checked in, thanks for the ping

[glass gulch]

here

[south geyser]

Is there a way to register for the backup list?

Not sure if I even could, but I don't see a way to do it either

[crimson cargo]

Where can we watch?

[rapid zenith]

ESPN

[drowsy oriole]

gogo @primal flax @ashen mango

[tawny dove]

Good luck to everyone in the finals tonight! Really looking forward to see some great Arena, and hopefully to learn a bit from the best players here. Personally I don't root for anyone, but I deeply and sincerely hope that anyone picking earth shield + Harbinger finish last in all games 🙂 I hope someone with some cleaver and bold non-meta comps wins!

[terse rampart]

Who’s live streaming? Looking for comps for us in -7 guild to copy haha

[supple epoch]

Rank 3/8

[tropic forge]

Exactly shield + Revenants all games. RNG clown fiesta

[tawny dove]

Yea, I didn't see a single lobby winner who didn't play anything else than that. At least from the lobbies I have seen on stream so far..

[tropic forge]

when there are stuff broken like for 3-4 months already you do wonder many things about even losing time on trying to compete at a decent level. Personally, i would not spend more of mine until certain things change.

good luck to all participants, hope u have fun

i couldnt get any of the weapon that are "broken"...
and 2nd game , when i get one, i just rolled 30 gold and the armor for it never came, all my augs were like really trash, rogue augs when i was playing a tank build, (All red and purple components) and rolled 3 rounds of drone (like 18 different augs on drone) and the Omega shield never came...
This isn´t about skill anymore, this is just luck trash RNG or going for the safe Revenant build

[tawny dove]

Which armor did you roll for? Personally for me, RNG at some minor/decent level is fine, fx for item components. But outright broken mechanics/weapons is a whole different case.

[tropic forge]

I was looking for the armor with 75% health as shield, it works with the shield that reflects damage when u are shielded. But nah, 30 gold spent, 0 armor.

[supple epoch]

Burn wallet idea play your team to death but win prize dron parts boosters haha ?

[unreal siren]

This is what happens when you have broken mechanics AND real compensation on the line. You just get a room full of players doing their best to take advantage of the game. As far as Im aware, there's no real effective counter to shield/revenant or harbinger. So of course everyone's going to try to abuse the mechanics as much as possible. I recognize perfect game balance is impossible, but everything needs an effective counter. Im genuinely curious what next weekend's tournament will look like, I suspect without a patch it'll be more of the same. Players will spend the week mastering the meta, and that's all we'll see next weekend.

[west plume]

if i lose to another Revenant comp or "Magma hug my corner comp and i brought a cattling gun on steroids named Scoriox" i will be passive aggressive in here for one week.

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-pissed-mad-angry-furious-gif-4720563

[tropic forge]

Two shields doing 30k damage that you can get for free and rogue revenants (again, what a surprise) getting top 3 in all games, should be a sign that something is terrible wrong with the game.
Yeah, every player abusing that just makes you lose (Like me with berserker 4 frost 3) in every game because i didn´t get the broken weapon neither went the broken comp in the RNG weapon selection. I took my 5th place. Should stage 2 Revenant 3 units beat Berseker 4 Frost 3 Stage 3 units? Nope.
Also, augments are trash RNG, imagine my case going tank and not having a single yellow composite box ... for 25 rounds.
The game favors those who have the patience to play 20 times a day the same 3 broken stuff because they don´t have anything else to do , this game is their job, and they just put some music on background and repeat the same looking for efficient farm till it lasts.
In tournaments, yeah, those 3 strats again, getting top 3. They just go for the same choice, and hey! that´s the ideal thing to win that precious money ,right? But where are the other factors than make a game like this competitive and fun?!
"That´s metaaaa"... they´ll say to you... but no, it´s not meta, is an uncared game with really broken mechanics for those who master how to break units and 3 compositions.

Honestly , i´m just fudding a lot, and i´ll stop after this post, but i had 0 fun. This has been the worst tournament for me, and i´m not planning to participate in any other while we keep doing things wrong pretending to gather a "Pro" audience on a TFT game than still needs a lot to be near what it should be.
My respect for Rich and all his hard work regardless tournament organization, his excellent webpage and his infinite hours of work without rest, this has nothing to do with tournament organization , is just about how broken the game is at the start of perhaps the most important event.
I expect you drop a patch fixing those crazy shields that have been broken like for 4 months already, and really nerfing those trash rogues/revenants before next weekend IPL, is really a clown fiesta on tournaments.

[unreal siren]

Yeah, I think the team would be wise to look at the builds from this weekend and future IPL events to get a true barometer on what is OP and what needs to be patched. Everyone played to win this weekend, there was basically no "I'll try this and see what happens". When they look and see that rogue/revenant got a huge percentage of victories, I trust they'll patch it.

[noble hinge]

I played Revenant yesterday because everyone was playing the Scoriox corner comp and I got cranky so got 4 revenant. Aiblaze still killed me but I go third so it is obviously broken.😂

[west plume]

i hate playing rogues,but i will join them,just because i hate losing😅 i have no principles when it comes to Gauntlet

[noble hinge]

I mean, once everyone is either cornering or revenanting you might as well join them.

[west plume]

Facts Torial

[tawny dove]

@calm raven We are rooting for you dude 😂

[viral marsh]

i think most problem of revenant. it's broken combo of synergy/augs on slashin. when it's stacked - rog/vanguard/revenant some crit/atack range+as etc.
it was in previous rogs - when penguin stage-2 doing most of dmg. it's still here.
yes - they nerf a bit revenant shield/earth weapon, but not touch slashin, and he come back again.

[ashen mango]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YWe0_MNf4c

[mellow star]

When will the ranking start again?

[ebon aspen]

Levatian 2/8

[bitter cypress]

<@&1400508814910029907> 6 of 8

[zenith mortar]

Last Thursday of month

[mellow star]

ty

[calm raven]

Yeah, the finals already gave me the full HYPE treatment right in my face

[mellow bolt]

That’s what I’ve been saying about luck and Meta where’s the value for the thousand dollar illuvials if it gets nerft. How is balancing going to work when there’s substantial money being spent on investments for a strong team If I spend $10,000 on the strongest alluvial it better not get nerft and it better stay Meta. lol 😂 but bro this is just the beginning and this is only one game mode just think of it like this. It’s free to play. Yeah people are gonna exploit the system. There’s gonna be balancing issue. Also, as I’ve said before bad ideas don’t work. A lot of people have been voicing their opinion on the whole luck factor how they can roll and roll and not get the build from a pure enjoyment standpoint. It’s not fun to Not get the build you’re trying to get I don’t wanna maybe get the build. I wanna have fun and just rage and get the most OP shit all the time. Eventually they’re gonna have to change it because as you said, I don’t know how this is gonna work with so much money involved in the competitive scene, but it’s part of the illuvium journey there will be trials and tribulation, but addressing the issues head on and persevering, the game will be in a better place later down the line. I’m sure the communities awesome everybody voices their opinion straight up and that’s good constructive criticism. They’ll keep tweaking it and improving it to make it make sense because it has to make sense. If not, they’ll fail, they have to adapt, so it’s only a matter of time before all the problems get fixed . Not getting my build is my life story . Fk it… it’s free to play just enjoy the ride . It all luck bro …it’s just a game .

[mellow bolt]

Anyone want to play leviathan

[bitter cypress]

i would but getting late

gonna finish this ranked then bed

[warped ocean]

Suggestion: remove No Region in gauntlet

[west quartz]

tbh you can't really sh*t on "pro players" for playing 20 games a day and therefore knowing how to use the best strats near perfection. It's kinda the definition of a pro player

[west quartz]

that would actually make it worse for most players. because the pros that can play 20 games will pick up on the new meta while the rest will still be lost trying to figure it out

is there a replay of the matches ? or at least of the finals (sorry if that has already been posted/asked before)

[west quartz]

Slashin deserves to be broken for a while, he used to get smashed by a grokko for over a year

[warm isle]

Try check twitch

[sinful hornet]

on illuvilytics can i spectate replays or just live games?

[weary sinew]

My honest opinion is Gauntlett is to long and low quality illuvial used..... i would make it so you reach you desired team easy, we have so many builds we can try tho we wait for RNG.... Ascended Levy was the way to go . Why would i play Gauntlett with 10 -25 m and RNG decides my fate, i have to play with t0 or stage 2 most off the time .... the game neads to be fun to play not wait until you get experienced play with Not your preferred illuvial and maybe have a good moment. And we took out 1v1 arena Ascended in levy.... i would say that's Imperative to have 1v1 it's a culture around it people like to compete against one another grow and test things/builds. Let's make Leviathan as it should everyone it's exited for that
....as soon as we had a little progress in that the Market started to Moove a lot.... i would make 1v1 2v2 and so on Ascended levy tournaments or even Gauntlett tournaments but grind down on that RNG in any card game player's have a play stille make their deck...but here we forced to play with all cards how it's that fun or even comprehensive in future when you will have even more.

[dark vine]

I find it really funny that ascendant was proven to not work (In its current form). Nobody played it. Gauntlet is a real game with strategy involved, which causes people to complain that they don't have their auto win button... I guess we also could just write a game that compares transactions. The person with the bigger bank account/bigger transactions in the last 24 hours wins.
Honestly, I can't even begin to understand why the rng problem is brought up. Every card game is based on that and the concept attracts millions. You need more than only the most expensive magic cards. You need to understand the game and have some sort of skill. Saying you don't get your stage 3 units together just shows that your strategy is bad or your deck balance (bad T3/T4/T5 Stage 1/2 Illuvials) is completely off. In every game we see many Stage 3 units among the top 4 placements. Again: To me it just sounds like the people want a button that gives them an autowin and are not interested in a real game.

Gauntlet leviathan in its current state would literally be perfect, because training low cost/low stage Illuvials can help a lot, but you won't be able to consistently win without having at least some of the high tier/high stage Illuvials.

[hot badge]

I said it many time already. The game have to many randomness in it, and is not even comp oriented randomness most of the time.
When the lobby skills are similar, the one with the most luck wins. Period.

[raven obsidian]

https://youtu.be/Y999wQNlLLg?si=vtn527uGuD8ev13J

Go to 24 mins.

I asked Vetemor this a few years back.

Not sure what Aaron is saying is true though regarding OP stuff and nerfs etc

[bronze spire]

on their youtube

[twilit storm]

@worn tree , @wide aspen is it possible to update the Illuvium Gauntlet Public Info Document? maybe I am trippin but the suit amplifiers do not match (name wise) to those I see ingame. Thx.

[lilac stag]

What about the tournament next Saturday? Any info? Will there be 64 slots? How do I know if I got an invite?

[worldly token]

Sometimes I cannot see people reposition their whole board. This kind of bug should be taken care of for a game with a "pro league"

[twilit storm]

thx for updating the sheet so quickly

[hot pond]

The blind positioning is such a shit disadvantage for comps who don’t rely on camping on a corner. Really need to fix that.

Takes away the minimal skill expression this game currently has 🤣

[weary sinew]

Since when is RNG skills bra....contradicting yourself there. Nobody would actually enjoy playing with t0 when they have so many others + to many cards i didn't say give me 5....but 25-50 not 320 + what is to come....how will that be managed even in Free to play....makes no sense....and i will play a game when i enjoy it my friend 😉

[dark vine]

okay, fact is we don't have enough Illuvials at the moment and managing rng is a skill.

[weary sinew]

Fact is it feels to much for me and we are going to have more than 1 season + RNG helps sure but not a skill that you should revolve the hole game on it.

[tropic forge]

It´s hard to reason when they defend something that actually shouldn´t be as it is.
Gotta apply stick to the plan theory from now on... if you have fun, and you like it, play or try to earn something. If u don´t , just stop playing.
It seems people at charge don´t want the game to be successful because every new system or decision is just based on what "Pro" players dictates. This tournament system with the actual RNG on game, is not gonna draw any new player, because if it´s already frustrating for current player base to be wiped by a Divine Shield and throw 2 days of effort (Friday Qualification + Saturday Tournament).
Was it hard to throw prizes for like 16-32 people to make more people interesed? nope. Was it hard to throw a patch before the first tournament on the season fixing 2 shields and revenants (we´ve been saying it since like 3 months now), nope. Is it hard to think that like 80% of our actual player base wants to make Leviathan the main game system and only make people earn weekly from Leviathan leaderboard because half of our "Pro" haven´t even spend 500usd to buy a collection while they sell 50+ILV monthly? nope.
In my world, that´s called drain till it lasts.
But people on council believe that this game is going to be a revelation and achieve massive players having Professional competitions for the same "Us"...
Did you guys saw new faces on top 16, even on top 8? nope, it´s the same "Us"
I honestly gave up reasoning when nothing changes.

And no, i don´t wanna win, i wanna play/see a tournament worth playing/watching and saying at the end: Oh, i lost because i made this mistake, or that guy had a better comp... i couldn´t get this, i ran out of money too soon, need to work on my economy...i should "get gud". He countered my comp ... what a nice play...
Don´t wanna end up frustrated because i rolled all my gold and RNG didn´t gave me an armor that literally breaks the game or like many other players, because they made it to top 16 and got IPL "points"... while 1st place takes 1200usd. Is that a tournament´s system to attract new players? not in my world, any of those new players even made it to top 32. Will you guys give also 8 prizes on December from 150K?
Anyway, that´s my feedback about this new IPL stuff. It´s not players fault, neither new players or Pro players for taking advantage of the system. Team just needs to seat and think what they want this game to become, i think current approach and target audience is not that we need.

[sinful hornet]

i agree, slickz only won cuz he abused bulwark weapon

[lilac stag]

I often see people saying that the Leviathan mode is much more popular than ranked, the current player base is about 80 people per day, if you are satisfied with such an online and that games are searched for in 10 minutes, then yes, you can safely make Leviathan the main mode, lose another half of the players and let the same 50 people play the P2W format among themselves
But if you want to create a large community with a large online in the game, then you need to build up the base in the F2P mode, where new players do not need to immediately enter the game and invest a sum of money to be competitive.
The idea of ​​Leviathan does not realize itself at all, look at all the previous tournaments in this mode, the list of players is not much different, all the same nicknames win tournaments because they are simply sent the best illuvials, beginners have 2 times less chances there (skill diff and deck diff)

[weary sinew]

I agree all true. Gauntlett it could be fun but player needs to build the team not the rng ....no fun . Anyways i don't know if it appeals to card games player base i don't play them much 🙃 just saying how i see it more fun. I feel lots are playing Gauntlett for the rewards honestly....when they were none , nobody was in queue and i have video as proof....let's stop pretend we all that. I can say i played OW since season 1 Reward or not , Because i like the word, illuvials and building my team , trying out combo's. You coming and saying i can't use my team but wait 20 minutes and maybe RNG God's will let 1 off my favourite illuvials on the board i don't like it.

[weary sinew]

You can play with t0 a bit to much i don't see the problem....it is free.

[viral marsh]

you in web-3. not web-2

[weary sinew]

From t0 you can actually make money to if you persistent..... i know people ho did . Then climb the ladder.

[lilac stag]

Where am I wrong? Do you really think that if Leviathan is made the main mode, the game will be more successful? Half of the current online people will simply leave and new ones will not appear 100% Why do they need this? To come to the game and invest when there are already several very strong players with the strongest decks

[viral marsh]

it's 3 build which can win game now. each beat other. and if you play solo in 1 build, and all other opponents play other builds - then yes, you will win with no contest.
if you got weapon, with wich you can build 1 of this 3 - yes, you in better position.

but it's not should be disbalance in synergys/builds like it now.
can you win with fighters? psion/invoker? empath? - only with big high-roll and non-contested, while all other players fight for "rog" / "harbinger" units

[sinful hornet]

it was sarcastic he didn't play it once

[weary sinew]

Lol not even 1 € to get a team off t1 or t2 s3 what are we even talking about F2P.

You want to fat up bots?

[sinful hornet]

but revs and reflect weapons are just something that get hotfixed changed in 1 day in tft

[viral marsh]

you come to late in game, and don't see how we work around our Leviathan deck/collection in previous year.
this talk about small player base already for half year with us. it's mean we will see Levi not soon.
why then we have buy something from market or play OW?
Leviathan it's The connecting link betwine all game. and without it it's just web-2 copy of tft

[sinful hornet]

but i don't even know if this is a balance problem or a design problem, when are we actually gonna have more than 3 weapons be S tier and not need to force them every game

[lilac stag]

Even if the Leviathan mode is necessary, then definitely not now, when the players overcome the entry threshold and we see a stable and large online, then we can slowly introduce it, but now there are not enough players for this mode, and as soon as it becomes the main mode, it will be almost impossible to increase the new player base

[tropic forge]

Making Arena f2p and weekly rewards super juicy, even a raffle! , and giving 0 benefits to collection owners is what made than half player base / collector and true game lovers leave. Others are AFK while their collection sits on a web...
Those who will leave if the game targets Leviathan and benefits owners are the ones that only care about draining free weekly rewards, so , yeah, i´m totally fine with that

[tropic forge]

How are we gonna introduce a larger playerbase online when we do tournaments with 8 people prizes?

[lilac stag]

You look at it from the side of old players, I as a new player will tell you - I would never have come to this game if there was only P2W mode, and now with the announcement of IPL in F2P mode, many of my friends also want to play and have already started playing Illuvium, we are expanding and getting a new player base

[sinful hornet]

does tft do more than top 8 prizing outside worlds?

[viral marsh]

made game cool.
also don't forget, we already at arena 2.0 - soon we will have 1000+ new players
"pro-players" from tft join us this week.
marketing company probably start as well soon

[weary sinew]

again there is t0 map you can grind for levy no money need ...idk why we insist on arena f2p ...

[tropic forge]

You can start from tier 0, or with those 1-2-4 ILV you got weekly and spend these hours to get your collection ready, as i and many others did. Also, the game is not p2W, it´s a combination of both.

[viral marsh]

at previous year, when most of people play OW, it was free pre-season, when we catch DH/holo, and get reward for it.
around 20000 players daily we have.
after that we come to 1st season, where you have pay for OW runs.
and we have 1000 - 2000 players, all other 18k leave, as soon they have pay for something to earn

[lilac stag]

Everyone is confused by the fact that there are only 8 prize places, maybe it is really worth expanding the number of prize places, but in F2P gauntlet anyone can get to the final! Look at the list of finalists of the last tournament, there is neither NAREBA nor FOX, but there are new players who do not have much experience and rating, so beginners do not need to be upset with this system, anyone can get to the final

[weary sinew]

i get owened by cats somtime in ow... tier don t mater if you have good

build

[tropic forge]

Do you think i feel good when i ´ve spent more than 3K (and this is shit compared to others) and almost 2000hours, and i have 0 benefit, and the game just turns his back on me and all players that believed on the Leviathan dream?

[lilac stag]

if we look at the leviathan tournaments, then most likely we will see the same people there, skilled people with decks that are very, very difficult to resist if you do not have both a lot of experience and a rich deck

[weary sinew]

exp and skill all you nead...some grind to

[tropic forge]

But you still have your IPL, im not asking about Leviathan tournaments, you have your IPL to earn for free as a f2p, weekly leaderboard should be Leviathan only

[gloomy mural]

always funny when web2 players come to web3 and talking about f2p XDXD

[viral marsh]

but at lest it's made move for something (levi tournament) -

1. people start buy illuvials
2. people start play OW to prepare lvls
3. people start think about how impruve team/win next.

and what in ranked? just learn meta, play f2p game - earn easy profit.

[tropic forge]

prove your skill on tournaments, where everybody has the same chances "apparently", the main game income and Leaderboard should be Leviathan and for people that spend money, and effort. Not a doubt in that, and we are still doubting to make the move like for 1 year now

[gloomy mural]

wanna f2p go play your tft tournaments lol

[lilac stag]

I am very happy that the IPL is going in F2P, I really am, that is why I am here and writing all this, I value what I have and do not want to lose it, I am afraid that the tournament format may change to Leviathan and then neither I nor anyone else except 10 players will have a chance to win the tournaments

[gloomy mural]

its web3 u must have money to play u must have money to win if game is f2p then drophunters just s*ck the money from the game and it dies

[viral marsh]

ofk you happy, invest nothing, but time and get free money, i'm also happy that can play f2p LB and get some tokens

[dark vine]

I think it is funny that the old web3 players are building a wall right here. We get new players in, that is obvious. We had over 200 players during the sngs and some of them will convert to the web3 parts. The rest will just deliver exposure of this game. Are there balancing issues, sure, but I don't understand why you guys here acting so hostile towords a new player who is 100% right.

[gloomy mural]

he is 100% right bro its your and his opinion then its not 100%

he is new because he is web2 player, when ilv money will be lose he will just leave to tft again lol

🙂

[lilac stag]

I already said that I speak not only for myself, but for the majority of newcomers to this game, many of my friends started playing Illuvium when they found out about the f2p mode, is it really true that building up a large player base is not the main goal before launching Leviathan?

[viral marsh]

we whanna see game in which believe year ago?
but i see only how people sell decks. and stop play.

[dark vine]

The plan was clearly stated from the team that we will go f2p do get new players. Get revenue via battle pass and some will convert to leviathan over time. The plan is now starting to work and you all are starting to get so hostile and want the entry barrier to be at what? 1000k and above? Sure, I am just happy that the team by now understood that that won't work.

[tropic forge]

Nono, IPL needs changes on structure to achieve what´s meant to achieve.
It has been said, that IPL is a promo tournament to attract new players, but prize distribution and the lack of fixes / patches game balance, has proven the contrary.
At this point i feel like those 250K are going to end on the same top 24-32 (On arena leaderboard)´s pockets, depending on skill and RNG... So, why do that?! Why give f2p the benefit of 2 earning methods, when your true playerbase and the ones that believe in your project haven´t receive a single benefit from their collections?
i don´t want to make IPL leviathan based, i want to make the Arena Weekly Rewards only for our collector and believers in our project.
You have the skill? Fine, then invest your money and time to rule arena and get paid for it.
That will also encourage people from Overworld to spend money finding Illuvials... i mean, the true project goal...cmon, this is not new for anyone and i don´t really know why we are overthinking and going the wrong road when the correct road was always there and we never traveled it.

[lilac stag]

I didn't quite understand, but if you're talking about me, then I've never played TFT

[gloomy mural]

I know that you are not web3 player, I have 0 same servers with you

only illuvium servers

if you are web3 and you have this opinion = you are just drophunter

[dark vine]

Yeah, isn't that great we finally get exposure to people outside of web3. In this case from dota underlords... why is that a problem? Sure Immafishy gets money out of the project, but like him others came/come and make the game more attractive and bring revenue with the battle pass

[lilac stag]

"At this point i feel like those 250K are going to end on the same top 24-32 (On arena leaderboard)´s pockets"why do you think so? look at the results of the last tournament, among the winners there are inexperienced players who do not compete in ranked, so new players have a chance

[dark vine]

Ok, talking to people who think games are only games when they have a pay to win button... what ever.

[tropic forge]

What tournament is that you are refering to? Because i saw same names even on top 32 ...

[tropic forge]

Welcome to web3. Pay + Skill to win.

[frozen tartan]

@lilac stag Hi. It’s unpleasant to watch when a crowd jumps on a single person. Like vultures on food.
Yes, I share the views of Leviathan fans, but it’s uncomfortable for me to see the process itself — when a crowd suppresses the opinion of one person who goes against the system.

And yes: having 8 prize places is cringe. I posted a suggestion about this. Judging by the reactions, players liked the idea. I tagged the big names, but they ignored me.

[tropic forge]

Ok, talking to web2 people who don´t get enough attention / variety on their web2 games that come to a web3 game to tell other people how to do things... nice...

[viral marsh]

game skins should looks so spicy, then i'l buy them. like in Dota, or Lost ark.
with cool new animations, or Anime-girls.
and now? i'm look on batl-boards, drone blast etc.... and i don't have feeling i need buy them.
emotes? - i have play full mute every game, to not look when someone "Anon" spam 100 000 emotes on 10sec, or this auto-spam emotes after lose/win round

[lilac stag]

Maybe someone has the wrong impression about me, I'm not here for the money, I like the illuvium project and I wish it only the best. Of course, I'm ready to invest money here, because there is a return. For example, I'm sure that I will buy a battle pass, also I didn't withdraw almost all the ilv I earned to usdt even after the big price increase

[tropic forge]

Aren´t you willing to invest, let´s assume, 100-200 usd to have a good collection for leviathan (yeah, a good collection right now is affordable with that money)?

if you tell me no, then yeah, you are here for the free money

[viral marsh]

big price increase, people who buy on 1k+ look on price move from 10 to 20 🙂

[gloomy mural]

im not talking about u only Im talking about all web2 players who came to ilv

[lilac stag]

I agree with increasing the prize places, my friends who were eliminated at the sit and go stage are surprised that even if they qualified they would have to go through 2 more rounds to get prizes

[tropic forge]

Anyways, is our debate changing anything? Did team gathered any positive or negative feedback / results from Yesterday´s tournament?
Was the player base what they expected to be?

do participants think is the way to go? idk, i feel like we are swimming against a sea of rules that only big people make and we just have to stick to that plan. Don´t wanna fight anyone for defending their position / interest. It´s sunday, time to touch some grass.
have a nice weekend all of you guys.

[lilac stag]

If I speak only for myself, then yes, at the moment I am ready to invest money here, because I believe in my strength, when we grow the community and many players can compete with top players, then there will be more people ready to invest

[tropic forge]

Then we need to find more people like you, for this project to improve.
I totally understand you as a new player, but if people like you are willing to pay some money to get into Leviathan, then the game is good enough to retain you, and to make you trust you can win money investing money + your skill.
F2P can have the IPLs and other tournaments every week to win some money and make their first collection step by step. That´s the dream the game has to offer, a totally different dream than a web2 game. In this one, you fight with your assets, and that´s what makes it unique and beautiful

[lilac stag]

I already said that I am a new player, I have not seen such huge changes in price, why do you answer me with examples from the past to each of my suggestions? You have already noted several times that you have been here for a long time, and I have just started playing, so why this?

[frozen tartan]

If you’re asking the participants, then my opinion as a participant is clearly stated here.
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1405672088332800131

We split Leviathan into 32 players — and the crowd cheers.
We split Casual into 8 players — and I get a dissonance.
Why such a difference? I’m advocating for around 32 paid spots across the board.

[tropic forge]

I tought that we all praised Polemos tournament, specially for that incredible feature. I don´t see a single player complaining about that. 32 spots definitely gives more chance to new players and even i , that just won 2ILV , felt like my time was worth, because i enjoyed the tournament.

i tought they will do IPL like that, but it seems the ideas are contradictory lately

[frozen tartan]

I’m the player who didn’t like that tournament, but not because there were 32 paid spots.

But this isn’t a place where you can freely share your opinion, otherwise their fans will throw rotten tomatoes at you.

[zenith mortar]

We were also fighting against time, so no I didn't ignore you Winnie but I also didn't come up with the prizes.

Would I love to have paid 32 spots sure

But I was also just trying to make sure the tournament platform worked for fri/sat

[sinful hornet]

how do u mute urself i get annoyed by my own emotes

[frozen tartan]

Sorry, but I don’t fully understand your point, and ChatGPT didn’t handle it well this time.

I think there’s been a misunderstanding.

I’m not saying that you ignored me before the Leviathan activities started. We were having a constructive dialogue, and I respect you for that.

I’m talking about something else. I mean it would be great if you, Kieran, or Aaron joined this discussion. You could present your pros and cons regarding the 8 paid spots vs. 32 paid spots model. And then, through the debate, the truth would emerge.

I respect your opinion and would be glad to see you take part in this discussion.

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1405672088332800131

[flint lodge]

nice plan - involve f2p and wait, then they will start to buy iluvs)
Those who never donate in-game will never donate)
I hope maybe buy a few battlpass)

[tropic forge]

I would not dare to throw a single shit at you Rich. I know how you care about the game and all the work you are carrying as a 1 man army. Imagine that tournament without your webpage or organization, it would be a mess.
But, and i say but, we need to put the patch BEFORE, not after. 3days before (the same day the tournament prizes were announced) many players were telling that it made no sense to make 8 players prizes including Winnie on a post with many reactions and thoughts about that such important tournaments for gathering new players, team decided to stick with the 8 people plan.
Apparently the "someone" behind council have a different idea of "competition" and you guys decided to ignore the players and go against common sense and do it the "pro" way. Let me tell you, that the "pro" way will not bring a single new player to our project.
Ok , is the first one, we can learn and make it better, as we can put a hotfix to this horrible patch and make a better tournament next week, but we do feel like if we are lacking sense reasoning on game decisions lately.

[flint lodge]

years gone but management is the same(

[tropic forge]

In my case, i want the game to have 20000000000 (put infinite 0s) players, enough to make Overworld runs worth, Leviathan the best arena on a Web3 game, and the market explode for all of you devs and team to buy fancy private jets and post them here. Do you know what i want for me?
To sit on my PC like 4 hours a day, queue on Leviathan for 20seconds and smash and get smashed with my assets, perhaps win 40-60 dollars from time to time... and at the end of the game to think: i need to get a better Rhampite for my team...
Need to think if you guys or the one making decisions about the project wanna build a game for people like me or for those who will stay to taste the last drop of the game , watch it die and go to the next one.

[flint lodge]

i love you man!

[tropic forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gg-absolutely-fabulous-no-ho-mo-gif-13264417

[lime cloak]

haven't seen the reward yet, assume they will appear on the reward dashboard.

@lean ivy do you know what the status is for the rewards

[weary sinew]

I have noticed that 1st month in....infuriating management. You do something this month players get used to it then change it basically explains everything.

When you need that on the fly change like was the tournament inclusion off more players....we didn't have it. So just there when we don't need it but not when we would.

[viral marsh]

coz you look for situation, and thinking about it, without full knowledge? and i give you a bit more info about it?

[viral marsh]

i'm just choice less annoying emote

[mellow star]

Jesus, please do something about the rogue class, there is currently no antidote for them, so the game is very one-sided.🙏

[still moat]

6 air + 6 prison 😄

[zenith mortar]

I read the thread I just didn't have time to react or change rules. All I meant is everything is happening very fast and our team is 1/4 of the size it used to be. So although I saw the thread communciating through proper channels and people to get approvals then make announcement of changes etc takes time and we just didn't have much in this case

And yes we have a tournament focus group that helped shape things, but if you're in that group you can easily see its very hard to get everyone to agree on rules

[tropic forge]

Well, at least we know what´s failing. We are asking for mainly 3 things on the channels:

• To patch this horrible 2shields / revenant / penguin broken game, meta, whatever it is to be able to play tournaments with the game at a better state.
• To include 32 (at least 16 on small tourn. like IPL 250) prizes for the money. You can make 17 to 32prizes in fuel, no big deal. This will improve new players participation and engagement for next events and those 2 days will not feel as wasted.
• To think carefully the idea of changing Arena Weekly Rewards to Leviathan weekly Rewards. Free players can be rewarded via the bi-weekly raffle and the IPL prizes, you can also think on new ways with the Battle pass, fuel, idk, but Leviathan needs the game to turn the gaze on it as all surveys have proven.

[ebon aspen]

So you finally get a Mahmut to get this op Harbinger build and with your luck his Omega does not push people away 🤣

[uncut comet]

is ranked reset next week?

[zenith mortar]

Last Thursday of month

[arctic steppe]

"changing Arena Weekly Rewards to Leviathan weekly Rewards" Do you wanna kill the game, my friend?? That’s pure insanity I just read

[tropic forge]

oh, there you are... yeah, right, that would purify the game of those who sell thousand tokens a month without investing 1 dollar... For my mental sanity i would honestly leave that topic to the right channels, see ya

[arctic steppe]

I agree that a weekly reward in Leviathan would be great for the game, but definitely taking it away from Gauntlet is not the way

[tropic forge]

F2P have ranked, have raffle, have IPL. What do true owners have? What benefit for those who are here like years before you and committed to this project?

[zenith mortar]

I don't think its as easy to say fully one way or other, personally I liked kierans idea of mixing in leviathan in the IPL but it didn't go through in the end, I think some combination of both these rewarding players is a good choice. We are just getting started though and player numbers are going up. We can find the sweet spot. We have tons of incentives for both we can use and leverage fuel, disks, ILV..

Also we have battle pass coming

So that can fix some of those issues of f2p ppl if you have a gated rewards system

[tropic forge]

Yeah, but trust me, we do need to give Leviathan attention . I would 100% also would´ve loved to see Leviathan on our first IPL taking priority, and many of us too.
I truly know you are working hard to content most of us (which is hard), but there are things that we have to TRY, and Leviathan is something we are loving but putting aside for a long time for X reason, and that´s gonna be the solution to many things that are missing right now

[safe valve]

Me personally i think since there is IPL points you can get from leaderbaords + a tournament every week, there is no need to double reward f2p...
can maybe give out borders or other cosmetics for either top rankings and/or the divisions liek master/grandmaster all the way to the bottom end of season.
Swapping the ilv rewards over to leviathan would also partly solve the multi account issue there is.

But imo leviathan needs some updates/balancing before it should be incentivized.
Like one should be able to pick which illuvials are played, impact of lvl/stats needs to be balanced, the carrousel should pick a players illuvials and not grant a standardized illuvial etc.

[zenith mortar]

Yeah that's the other thing too is leviathan has had almost no dedicated development, it was always a build with normal gauntlet, but a few weeks ago I know they planned separating them so they could better tweak things. All that to say I don't think leviathan is quite there yet but I agree we should get it there based on the community response to the few tournaments ran and also mentioning the illuvidex volume it created and fuel purchase spike.

I think all these things are coming together and leviathan doesn't need a lot to get it there at this point

[arctic steppe]

The multi-account situation is resolving on its own, a lot of new, skilled players have joined the game, and right now the top 100 rewards 99% real players who are putting in the effort. Basing a change on the 1% doesn’t make much sense to me

[hot pond]

You get IPL points from leaderboard automatically?

[safe valve]

Ya pretty much, aaron mentioned something they are working on stuff for making it easier to tweak things in leviathan like 2 days ago or so.

Definetly think it should have some priority since it could bring revenue in, as you said some more started playing overworld to get some levels and might get lucky with illuvials.
(I do think tho that most fuel sales went to last week beyond summer sale... might be a nice additional metric in the financials tab ov illuvilytics "fuel-usage", so people could see where fuel is being spent. 🙂 )

[zenith mortar]

Ah I did forget about summer sale

[safe valve]

it would just be a nice side effect.
Main reason is more that it doesn't make much sense to double reward f2p.

[safe valve]

i think so... maybe @vivid stirrup can explain in detail how it works.

[tropic forge]

Effort and reward weekly for effort alone won´t bring income to the project. In fact, it just drops token price. Yeah, we can´t kill the f2p in the game, but we can limit it to fuel/disks/cosmetics and tournaments as main source of rewards for f2p.

the real weekly periodic income should come from the paid mode, as logic and web3 dictates.

[safe valve]

additional info to the post above...

[vivid stirrup]

the "daily" might be misleading.

There will be a monthly snapshot at the end of the month (Last Thursday 00:00 UTC I believe) just before reset.

[arctic steppe]

I don’t agree with your line of thinking. Right now, Illuvium is a very well-made and fun Autochess. I played TFT the other day and kept thinking about getting back to Illuvium, and I’m seeing a lot of TFT players saying the same. So if we can compete with a Web2 game with millions of players, rewarding the top 100 of the ranked ladder out of 1,000 or 10,000 players wouldn’t be a burden on the “token price” you’re worried about, quite the opposite

[tropic forge]

Could it be because u are extracting rewards weekly from Illuvium and not from TFT? Bro, those Pro morale speechs are not for me. I´m too old already for cheap promotions.

[vivid stirrup]

IPL Points (Tournament Points) are automatically awarded when you get them via tournament play.

Same goes for the RLP (Ranked Leaderboard Points) that are awarded at the end of each month for your placement.

These are 2 seperate reward structures.

Top48 from IPL and Top4 from RLP get invited to the Main Event in Dec.

[tropic forge]

the only thing we are agree with, is on Illuvium being a great game. Your comments (at least the ones I've read here) prove to me a single thing long ago, and honestly, idk why i keep answering to your messages.

[sinful hornet]

Can we please have a way to pay for quick leveling already by the time we're gonna be serious about leviathan

[viral marsh]

"Illuvium is a very well-made and fun Autochess" "changing Arena Weekly Rewards to Leviathan weekly Rewards - Do you wanna kill the game" - but that mean, if it will be no reward, game will be not so fun? xD

[sinful hornet]

isn't rlp = ranked leadearboard points = the score?
nvm read above

[safe valve]

is there a ranking with the rlp+IPL points people could check publicly?

• a list with what rank gives how many points.
  (maybe it's somewhere, but i haven't found it 😄 )

[tropic forge]

This guy´s ideals contradict ´emselves in every post. Don´t know if he treats me as a 10 years old child or he just enjoys pissin´ me off.