🎮〕illuvium-arena

[summer frigate]

And in my opinion, the only one with solid experience who’s applied for the council is Viper, and they don’t even pick him 😂

[languid sparrow]

There was like 10 Epoch before this one...

[cursive echo]

@cyan olive come back🙏

[fallen vortex]

Viper was on the council previously. The reality is that the council doesn't handle gameplay decisions historically.

Now with the Arena entering the 'polishing' stage, this could shift and they have the time to absord and implement community feedback while they aren't busy developing new features.

[bronze spire]

they have slicks in some kind of esports postion now i think

[fallen vortex]

Yes, this purpose is what the committees are for. Its a much better system

[cyan olive]

I lost the believe that game design will make a good PvP game, still feel scammed by IP-ban bs, shortly after launch and by EP1/Refund, and have a hard time believing labs/kieran will figure out how to fix sentiment issue.

[marsh bloom]

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[cyan olive]

Like Scoriox said at least in the past you had realistically no input from a council side, other games and their creator things or out of pure interest talk more to people or tell them more/ask for feedback on future updates incl. game design or rewards stuff.

I wanted to change that and that when they have capable people there that those should be able to do more if they want to, but sadly couldn’t.
Maybe for the better after how disappointed I am with current state of the game.

[uncut comet]

how to bond i right / left click on ranger or waepon nothing happens

[supple beacon]

You need to hover the illuvial on top of the ranger

[warm isle]

This is tier 5?

[uncut comet]

oh thanks , but i think they way before was better cause this takes again to much time which there is already far to little

[hollow orbit]

Will I only be able to choose one of the first three weapons in the testnet?

[fallen vortex]

Its a different 3 every match

[zenith mortar]

No tiers

[zenith mortar]

Testnet game anyone

[foggy tiger]

how do we know who wins in the raffle?

[violet summit]

any plans for LB reset ?

[west plume]

Its displayed on the raffle wheel live.

[foggy tiger]

Where can I see this?

[west plume]

There will be a live raffle on the going hyper podcast today.

https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1374907960102359151/1377738267033600000

[zenith mortar]

https://illuvium.io/news/arena-gauntlet-testnet-release-patch-notes-1-10-0t

[west plume]

Already read the patch notes, have the Meta locked in

Nevermind there are no changes to the illuvials

[native mauve]

@frozen tartan Fixed a bug that caused owned Illuvials not to obtain bonus stats from level in Leviathan mode. (new patch! leviathan testnet anyone?)

[uncut comet]

Weapons List,
Flamewarden Staff – Empath – Fire,
Grove Sword – Fighter – Nature,
Sprout Guard – Psion – Earth,
Sylphid Blade – Fighter – Water,
Ember Bastion – Bulwark – Earth,
Emberling Rod – Psion – Nature,
Aqua Blaster – Psion – Water,
Quake Maulers – Rogue – Earth,
Strike Boomerang – Fighter – Fire,
Ripple Flail – Bulwark – Water,
Galewind Bow – Fighter – Air,
Vinebound Cleaver – Rogue – Nature,
Shadow Maul – Empath – Earth,
Tempest Lance – Bulwark – Air,
Lava Gauntlet – Psion – Fire

can someone make with pictures

[languid sparrow]

For now....

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-thumbs-up-nod-pointing-finger-gif-17291585280384210339

[languid sparrow]

Feel weird to have 4 weapons of earth and only 2 for Air

[gloomy mural]

I think better do it like the excel table

[frozen tartan]

Please give me a bit of time — I'll review the patch first. After that, we'll start gathering players.

In the meantime, could you let me know what time would work best for you to play? (But no earlier than 10:30 UTC, so players have time to prepare.)

[gloomy mural]

I mean columns its classes and thongs its affinities

or vice versa

[languid sparrow]

Why not just coping the image... lol

[frozen tartan]

This update is on the testnet.
But our Illuvials are stored on the mainnet.
So it's unlikely that anything has changed in the mainnet version.
We probably need to wait for the update to be released on the mainnet, right?

[twilit storm]

gm rangers, testnet casual lobby starting <t:1748510400:R>

code 9A42D6

[ashen mango]

They should halven the bonding and component fusing time imo

Maybe even dividing it by 3

[sinful hornet]

there's no reason to have any load time for it tho no? u can switch it instantly if u missclick it anyway

[twilit storm]

testnet lobby starting 1 min

[ashen mango]

I think that accidentally hovering over your ranger could happen quite frequently and if you do it at the last second while repositioning an illuvial it could create a lot of frustration
I could see it becoming a worrying thing to keep in mind that would be akin to how we can be worried about rearranging units on our bench before an augment round because we could accidentally pick one

[uncut comet]

is there a bug that rahmphyre ult crits all the time ?

[ashen mango]

My carousel feedback

Lyrics

[Verse]
Spinning round like a clock gone wrong
This carousel’s got no rhythm no song
Clunky moves and time just drips
Units vanish like sinking ships

[Chorus]
Round and round but it ain’t no thrill
Promises broken the void they fill
Teleport chaos confusion reigns
This carousel’s just causing pain

[Verse 2]
I pick a path but it slips away
This ride’s a mess in a disarray
No fun to find no charm no spark
It’s a spinning mess left in the dark

[Bridge]
They call it strategy I call it despair
Choices vanish like smoke in the air
It’s not a game it’s a time thief’s grip
A carousel ride I’d rather skip

[Chorus]
Round and round but it ain’t no thrill
Promises broken the void they fill
Teleport chaos confusion reigns
This carousel’s just causing pain

[Outro]
Stop the spinning let me off this ride
There’s no joy on this mechanical tide
Illuvium’s promise it’s lost its way
Fix the carousel or fade away

[native mauve]

any time today, il only be busy with work for an hour or 2 later on

[native mauve]

ahhh yes correct can you confirm @dark scaffold its just on testnet leviathan has been fixed, not yet on mainnet right?

[dark scaffold]

there were no updates to the mainnet yet

[twilit storm]

testnet lobby starting <t:1748512800:R>

code R34MN8

[scarlet spindle]

Testnet patch changes them, for instance the cleaver is rogue now.

[twilit storm]

testnet lobby starting

[turbid osprey]

tournament registration is up guys https://x.com/HYPE_ILV/status/1928031546377658468

Hyperion Academy - HYPE (@HYPE_ILV)

It's time for another Hyperion Gauntlet 🔥

Saturday, May 31th, 10AM UTC

60 ILV 💰

Lets bring it home again!

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X · May 29, 2025, 10:11 AM

[scarlet spindle]

Hrmm, level 9, rolled down over a hundred points, only 2 players in the game, and no Pho. I think they still arent going back into the bucket when other players get knocked out or I have super bad luck lol

gg @twilit storm

[ashen mango]

Yeah the pool is bugged

[twilit storm]

@scarlet spindle gg ser, for months now, I've been trying to bring attention to the odd logic of the shop's pool. It can be quite frustrating at times.

[regal hound]

😂 must say not bad Suno

[ashen mango]

That's right! Suno V4

How did you know that it's Suno and not another text to music AI like Udio? @regal hound

[west plume]

some insane suit upgrades

[hot pond]

Whenever I read True sight I get happy 😂😂

[regal hound]

Just assumed, Suno does these weird outro flows generally, dont know Udio

[ashen mango]

Bad news for air

[hot pond]

anyone wanna jump into a testnet match? Just finished downloading

[ashen mango]

That's assassin stuff

Your ranger is going to jump on a psion or empath, kill it in 6s then come back

But if it doesn't kill it it will be bad

[hot pond]

It can also get stunned by behemoths and die before it jumps back 😄

[ashen mango]

I assume that it will blink back to its starting position so its vertical coordinates will matter

[gloomy mural]

wtf is this

[twilit storm]

"becomes untargetable"

[gloomy mural]

https://tenor.com/view/cute-tired-baby-gif-27658791

[vivid stirrup]

nice patch! dope to see it all coming together, BONDING IS BACK BABY

[scarlet spindle]

It seems more like when they say "bonding" they mean your drone putting a leash on an illuvial to pull it onto your bench, not like a synergy bonding like before.

[twilit storm]

beware that wen the units evolves into higher stages the bond need to be redone

i think they will fix it soon tho

[vivid stirrup]

and dont click escape when weapon and suit selection

[languid sparrow]

can the Suit ahve Stats ? if you press Shift ?

[west plume]

No stats

[hot pond]

there is still no option to drop illuvials on the spot without clicking 😦

[violet summit]

I like the testnet but I feel like we should get another option midgame to switch weapons

Round 4 is too soon and it influences your team entirely

Maybe at round 12 or close we could swap for other weapons if we want too

[sinful hornet]

that would also give a lot more agency i would like this change a lot

[west plume]

I like the idea of building out your comp based on what weapon you start off with.

[sinful hornet]

it will never work like that tho, the biggest dictator for what u play is ur shops, everything else should be made in such a way that it lets u play to ur shops and doesn't cause u to autolose if u picked a thing that ur shop just doesn't give u

[zenith mortar]

I'm actually not sure it's happening, if anyone gets it on recording please share

I think I mistakenly benched an Illuvial switching augments

[twilit storm]

no ser it happened to me too

maybe is not happening all the times tho...need more testing

[native mauve]

anyone up for some test net?

[supple epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/uhm-me-raise-hand-hi-nick-jonas-gif-16491413

[native mauve]

SKS4SK

[supple epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/sks-gif-10791307066130767743

Do we need a full room of 8 to play ?

[native mauve]

nah we can just play against 6 bots

[viral marsh]

i'l join now

[supple epoch]

K cool

[native mauve]

ok great @viral marsh we 3/8 if anyone else wants

[dull wind]

I'll go

[native mauve]

ok XFilo we 4 with you makes 5/8

last call anyone else, we 5/8 starting in 1 minute

lets go

[native mauve]

gg's guys, that was fun as, love the new music!

[lean ivy]

Got time for a game or two! Anyone around?

A9N244

[granite echo]

Can someone help me understand why did i lose this?
Seems like my comp was better
With 3 colossus, 2 wildfire, 2 verdant
While he had templar bloom granite with a t0 unit
Was because of hyper from earth against nature?
Trying to understand to change my team

[frozen tartan]

[cursive echo]

👈

[granite echo]

Ok, thanks, i got it

[native mauve]

im down

lobby not found:(

[lean ivy]

ok new lobby: Y2KAXZ

@severe steeple you in also?

[viral marsh]

7 earth+templar. i think Titanor doing most of dmg in his team

[rancid raptor]

does this mean no more tiers in weapons? (havent played testent yet)

[lean ivy]

ZR6RYU

[rancid raptor]

wht about weapon crafting? tier 5 were way more expensive

is that going to change ?

[viral marsh]

crafting for what?

[rancid raptor]

ask the devs? i suppose leviathan will require

[viral marsh]

not sure we need it for levi.
in past ama they say - probably we will use weapons in mmo

[rancid raptor]

so tiers still usefull for mmo not for arena? thats super wierd

im trying to justify crafting tier 5 weapons since aparently tiers are no longer a thing in arena now

[frozen tartan]

Is this the full list of weapons in the new version of the game?
Does that mean some types of weapons have been removed for now?

[zenith mortar]

this is the full list i have

so i would say yes

today we play testnet on the podcast

be ready

[lean ivy]

S5XVQK

[frozen tartan]

Hi guys,
Are there icons for the new weapons?
Lava Gauntlet and Grove Sword.

[supple beacon]

@zenith mortar Is the plan to push quickly the tesnet patch live, or to test it in depth?

[zenith mortar]

The quicker the better imo

get more ppl testing

[lean ivy]

EAD3VE

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/auntie-krys-sassy-gif-15724418486654019518

[supple epoch]

New game ?

[ashen mango]

When is the podcast?

[zenith mortar]

45 min

[hollow estuary]

@zenith mortar How do I get access to the testnet?

[safe valve]

try that to redeem that code in epic games launcher

S97V5-HNFBS-DHQAY-VM6AY

[hollow estuary]

thanks that worked

[safe valve]

nice, have fun 🙂

[ashen mango]

Casual lobby for those who couldn't join Rich

7SA8AQ

[safe valve]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-trump-2024-trump-dancing-trump-dance-i-see-you-gif-18238543777420077119

[ashen mango]

3/8 testnet

4/8

5/8

7SA8AQ

[safe valve]

start?

[ashen mango]

Okay let's go

[safe valve]

https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExemhvcW5iNTVwOWRuOGppZ3E2d2w5emRhN3ozYW10djFxdDc3aHZxNSZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/bM9MTdaZuq4s2hTQ7q/giphy.gif

[ashen mango]

My game crashed

I'm back

[violet summit]

is the LB gonna be reset later this month?

[valid stirrup]

@worn tree just i will like you to see 4 phantom very expensiv nice augument lose by a fighter team 😮 come on =))) we dont understand the value of money found me a nice explaination if you think was wrong

[safe valve]

ho, that was fun

bring that testnet live

[violet summit]

4 phantom and 3 predator

[viral marsh]

3 aegis>4 phantom

[valid stirrup]

that i am talking about it

it is so expensiv to make 4 phantom and the value it is not what i expected

same like with testla you buy a car but if you check how it is make it didnt wort it

[viral marsh]

same as half units in this game

40 gold Scoriox die by 1 octius cast. xD
and his cleave? he even don't cleave targets with 5 hex

[valid stirrup]

we need attention on value of money why we build T5 illuvium if the cost it is expensiv with out results 😮 4 phantom

[regal hound]

#makerhamphyregreatagain

[valid stirrup]

we need a bit more attention in detail @worn tree i think we can invest a bit time in value of coin in the game T5 it is a T5 because ?

[severe steeple]

another game on testnet?

[violet summit]

@zenith mortar do you know if mainnet LB will be reset EOM?

[viral marsh]

Dualeph vs earth team doing 200 dmg with 1 cast. is it worth 45 gold?

[valid stirrup]

we need a bit attention so if it is hard to make something let`s make it worted

it is one of the Illuvium top 3 🙂 why we need to make it how shuld be

[worn tree]

The explanation is that aegis is broken and we are going to nerf it.

[worn tree]

Pretty much

[zenith mortar]

Maybe so

[ashen mango]

?

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/barron-trump-gif-86533445850130474

[ashen mango]

@worn tree

I think that it was its omega dealing that much damage

It oneshot my Octius

Unfortunately my Octius didn't have 2M hp to tank the omega 😂

[valid stirrup]

I bit buff on rough ( it is the beauty of the game )

[ashen mango]

#1377785538102296617 message

[turbid osprey]

he has much better augments + 3 aegis on, 3 templar, wildfire and an omega giant phorus, for sure he won, im not surprised at all tbh

[austere lodge]

stuck on reboot, this happens all the time..

😢

[bronze spire]

yea happens on reset

[austere lodge]

I'm 8/8 and I never get in... did they subtract points? I restart but nothing works.

[bronze spire]

you will get in, ill let you know when the game starts

than you can reboot and it will reconnect you

[fierce abyss]

Same here must have been the same game. I've shut down the game three times still getting an error

[bronze spire]

still stuck 8/8 for now

[fierce abyss]

Error 400 matchmaking error

[austere lodge]

So if it happens it's better to wait?

[bronze spire]

you dont bother spamming it ill let you know when it pops

[bronze spire]

yep

[fluid raptor]

dude I am killing you atm

XD

[bronze spire]

im in game?

[fluid raptor]

yea 😛

just kidding

[bronze spire]

try connect now

[bronze spire]

try now

[fluid raptor]

everyday near 3:30 for me. -2 hours for utc I suppose

[bronze spire]

fuk haha now i wont be able to see when game pops

[fluid raptor]

so we wait for 20 mins

[bronze spire]

made me rebook

[fluid raptor]

just spam find game dude

does not matter what yo do

it reconnects

when it is available

[bronze spire]

yea but if you stay 8/8 the game will trigger

and you dont need to spam connect

[austere lodge]

So if it happens it's better to wait?

[bronze spire]

yep

[austere lodge]

not working

[fluid raptor]

just spam find game for 20+ mins XD

[bronze spire]

yea he was trolling me haha

game hasnt started yet

[fluid raptor]

oh I did not knew it

[bronze spire]

nah all good haha

[fluid raptor]

this one

[bronze spire]

we can all spam it and let eachother know if somone gets in

[fluid raptor]

so waiting is okay then

[bronze spire]

yea best stay not cancel and just wait 8/8

[fluid raptor]

both way we wait about 15-20 mins XD

[bronze spire]

yea doesnt change the time waiting but means you dont have to spam find game

[fluid raptor]

btw are not you giving away new discs ? XD

[bronze spire]

not sure if they are running a give away

but i might do

[austere lodge]

When they apply the new patch, is anything known?

[bronze spire]

not sure when but there is a new patch on testnet

not sure when its main net

[fluid raptor]

this was 12 hours ago

btw I liked the patch, just like old days, but also making it deeper

and for final release, I wonder how new players will be able to play.

it will take 3 months for them to learn

if it is not changed 😄

[austere lodge]

😅

[fluid raptor]

oh it has started nice....

[austere lodge]

These changes are TFT style.

o ggo

go

[bronze spire]

game popped

[fluid raptor]

I restarted and it is 9th round

[supple epoch]

4/8 rank

[west musk]

anyone playing testnet?

[fluid raptor]

I tried

[west musk]

how is it?

I'm down for a game

[fluid raptor]

like 5 months before with adjustments XD

deeper than the current one

easier to get composites, harder to win

[west musk]

Ooo

[fluid raptor]

if you want we can play

[west musk]

Lets

[fluid raptor]

ok cancelling the ranked

[west musk]

start casual?

[fluid raptor]

we should

[west musk]

k

going in

[fluid raptor]

I dont think there are others playing XD

or I give code

[west musk]

😬

[fluid raptor]

in case

[west musk]

Ok I'll wait

[fluid raptor]

WJ8UZ2

if anyone wants to come testnet

hey 🙂

[west musk]

Bonding ranger similar to before?

[fluid raptor]

yes the same,

[west musk]

hey hey

[fluid raptor]

but you chose weapons at round 4 or 5

[west musk]

Ooo

[fluid raptor]

the weapon/armor is removed from shuffle

[west musk]

Is the carousel better? 🙈

[west musk]

that's prob good

[fluid raptor]

you decide XD

[west musk]

😅

[fluid raptor]

you get weapon armor upgrades at certain rounds

[west musk]

Is it still rng weapons when you choose?

[fluid raptor]

I have also played only once, this will be second XD

also that illuvium choosing round from the previous test patch added

since nobody is interested I am starting?

you get 3 weapons

[west musk]

ok ok I guess I will see

[fluid raptor]

you choose one

at round 5 I suppose

[west musk]

Ahh yah ok rng weapon

[fluid raptor]

and it decides your fate

starting then

[west musk]

I can see

Let's go

[fluid raptor]

gl dude 🙂

[west musk]

Thx... I'm still learning

GLHF

[fierce abyss]

Cheers bro, GG

[west musk]

Seems like the weapon limitation might encourage different builds?

[fluid raptor]

yes, it was hard to complete composites earlier

gg bro 🙂

[west musk]

GGz

Ok ok... carousel is much better than before... could be smoother still tho

Doesn't seem as stressful as current mainnet

I forgot to bond ranger

Not really obvious to do that

[fluid raptor]

XD

you should drag the illuvial on ranger

[west musk]

If anyone from team is reading this...
Text size for weapon modifer is TOOO SMALL

[west musk]

yah I'm just used to not doing it so I didn't even think of it XD

[fluid raptor]

although game is public, it has become more and more dedicated over time

that is my thoughts, when it comes for casual players

[west musk]

wdym?

[fluid raptor]

they will probably say wtf is going on

[west musk]

Ahhh

Like it's not newbie friendly

[fluid raptor]

think about money making shit games, they are for imbeciles

I like games that requires higher understanding, but I dont think that a newcomer can keep up with people like fox or slicks

it requires a better wellcoming enviroment

for new players

[west musk]

Well... either way... a large part of game mechanics falls on the devs to make clear what's going on and what choices to make in game

you can have a complex game but easy to understand thru ui

[fluid raptor]

the game is promising, but it is nothing if you cant keep the newcomers

[west musk]

yep... but they have not marketed at all... and from the mouth of mr K they don't really want a lot of people right now

not until it's ready

And if there are a bunch of people that come... they will all start at the beginning like every other game

Some will like it and stay and grind up

others will leave

But marketing is def a part of that initial presentation when the time is right

[fluid raptor]

as I have mentioned above with a ss, they are planning to fnish it and start adv.

but it should be wellcoming for new players

[west musk]

agreed

[fluid raptor]

currently it is like worms 2

I remember playing it with 100 pro players

but nobody else XD

[west musk]

and ui/ingame communication of what to do will help tremendously

[fluid raptor]

then it was shut down

there are plenty of games around making serious money, which are not even 1/100 of this game

only thing is people clicking

[west musk]

Mobile will help reach new people as well

[fluid raptor]

mobile players would not spend 100 hours to learn XD

in 3 hours they will be bored if they cant win XD

[west musk]

Well...
If they created a tiered leveling system like Clash Royale then it gives players an arena to grind towards

[fluid raptor]

a questing system for beginners maybe, making new player to think that they have learned 😛

[west musk]

Yep... there are ways

[fluid raptor]

yes we will see 🙂

[west musk]

just like going from kindergarten to grad school

[fluid raptor]

XD

tnx for game bro

[west musk]

😁

[fluid raptor]

see you around

[west musk]

take care

[fluid raptor]

now time for anime XD

u too

[hot pond]

I got 3 psion weapons for Choice yesterday in the podcast match, what a great choice to make for me

[fallen vortex]

But they can win, cause so many new players would be playing.

But I agree a tiered ranked system is critical, but impossible until the game has players

[fallen vortex]

@worn tree plz we need to allow some freedom of choice between weapons. They should never be all 3 the same affinity, and not all 3 the same class, as a minimum

[hot pond]

I must say it is definitely an improvement from the shop RNG with weapons but basically setting in stone what you have to play as early as in round 4 through the weapon choice seems really bad in terms of agency and flexibility. If I have to go psion because I only have 3 psion weapons for choice, but the shop RNG doesn’t provide me bulwarks and psion units I am fucked. Or if I find composite chips that I can’t really build with that weapon either through bonding, my ranger will just be vessel to carry some modifiers instead of an actual carry/unit

Maybe add different weapons to the illuvials on the carousel instead of augments, so we can pick up new weapon options

[fallen vortex]

I think there's no reality to getting bad enough RNG. Technically if you had a psion fire weapon for example, every single composite chip is probably viable for you. Even consider maybe Verdant chip comes up. The natural progression there is you start stacking some colossus/verdant through Gnarl. Psion fire seems weird on surface, but Phosphorus needs an Arcanite buddy and would kill in that comp. Or you can get Wildfire with the Krunk.

I think there's a lot of lateral thinking needed.

But a player might hate Psions, so getting 3 Psion weapons feels rough

[hot pond]

Just making sure that the 3 weapons cannot be the same affinity and class is already an improvement

[fallen vortex]

I guess the other thing is the non composite chips on drone augments are all really good now. And the composite crates have 3 chips so you'll probably get something useful

[fallen vortex]

Would help mitigate some weird RNG a lot.

I do think the weapon choice should happen round 6/7

Or maybe you select class round 4, and affinity round 7

[native mauve]

lets get this testnet patch on mainnet already @zenith mortar !

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/larry-enticer-send-it-gif-12724806881222424663

[worn tree]

Thank you, will take a look 🙏🏻 is this happening every game with gnarl?

[ashen mango]

No it was an exception
I didn't record the round when it happened and it occurred only once but here was his entire team

[worn tree]

Thx, will explore it 🙏🏻🙌🏻

[valid stirrup]

Let’s do it better test on main net we are beta . More people more eyes

[sinful hornet]

Can you nerf every single composite before it ships to live so they act as another thing you build towards combined with basic classes and affinities rather than the 80% main thing?

[worn tree]

We are on it 🙂

Specially T3 and T4 composites

[sinful hornet]

what does that mean

ahh thresholds

i'd nerf invoker 2 and colossus 2 as well and transfer the power into phyri buff and some individual tank

i think it's a huge problem that psyons are basically unplayable without invoker but S tier with invoker

[worn tree]

We understand that composites now will be much more accessible, we don't want the game to become a rush towards hitting T4 composite and then snowballing. So we are nerfing them by a good chunk.

We will monitor this but we are confident this first iteration will help.

To give some reference, composite power level now it's sitting at around 6.5K-15K-35K (approx, rly depends on each one).

Now we are bringing them to: 5K-12K-25K approx.

[worn tree]

There's a patch incoming

[sinful hornet]

Btw is there any chance you can put something in the game that's basically a weapon reroll token that you can hold for the whole game? This would solve a lot of really bad scenarios when u get dropped composite crates and also if your shops just refuse to go with your first weapon.

[jolly whale]

@worn tree how soon are we likely to see this patch on mainnet?

[severe steeple]

hey everyone, anyone up for a game on testnet?

[ashen mango]

Steam needs to be nerfed as well

[sinful hornet]

steam is weird cuz emblem + rake is insanely good but rake + weapon is not

[ashen mango]

Maybe it depends on the weapon as well

I played steam with an empath weapon yesterday and the ranger wasn't impressive even with damage amplifiers but Rake and especially Umbre was a killer

To be fair I also had an emblem

[worn tree]

It's coming quite quite soon, but not this week.

[short solstice]

Whats the reason for not reseting arena points weekly ? if payout its weekly ? i mean its not make any sense for new players its realy bad to start and someone who reach top 40-50 dont even have to play 1month and taking rewards every week.....this is main reason why we still waiting for game so long + playing just whit top players

btw see enemy moves in real time ....hell this is extremle NON-userfriendly 😄 move rogue or DPS exactly in right spot in last 1-2sec this is insanly non-friendly function , enemy action should be hiden lol like in TFT

avrg 500-600 sec for game , its only becouse leaderbord points not reseting so top40-70 dont have to play , they just waiting for weekly rewards 😄

[viral marsh]

they have to play 15 games every week

[sinful hornet]

it takes 2 days to pass top 50 i don't really get that argument

[worn tree]

There's something coming

[jolly whale]

Every time they reset the same players make the top every week. Resetting will not stop the skilled players winning

You could make top 35 in like under 20 games if you are that skilled

I say that as someone who barely scrapes into the top 60 every week

[viral marsh]

if reset will be every week. i'l have to think. 16hours every day worth rewards or not

[twilit storm]

A more equitable solution for leaderboard rewards would be to implement separate prize pools for different leagues. This means players in Silver and Gold, for instance, could compete for meaningful rewards within their respective tiers, rather than relying on a linear 1-100 ranking that heavily favors only the very top.

We could further bolster these league-specific prize pools by allocating additional ILV from community tournaments and raffles. Rewarding more players for their participation fosters broader engagement, which is far more beneficial than consistently rewarding the same few "monsters" or using high-stakes, lottery-style mechanics like a "wheel of fortune" (100 ILV for a single spin seems excessive).

[sinful hornet]

these never work because i'll just stay in silver playing way less then

[twilit storm]

and you will get less value from it coz silver prizepool is way smaller than the top tier one

[sinful hornet]

the real solution is pull off some scam to make ilv 50$ cuz at this point not even rank 1 is meaningful rewars

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[short solstice]

ohhh ye thanx i forget about 15 games weekly , if someone dont play it it will be disqualified right ?

[twilit storm]

You will stay in silver if the Top tier rewards will be x3 the actual one? you sure?

[short solstice]

i mean ....ye top will stay top , they are skilled and they deserve it , but i see problem whit not reseting points where rest people dont have so much iniciative to play why u shoud play more than 15games / week just for hold rank ? 🙂 i played like 60games for testing and matching whit same ppl over and over and over , its weird if it 100ppl in leaderbord 🙂

also 6-10 min waiting for game , sometimes its annoying ....cause basicly i waiting for time where top ppl want to fight each other 😄 but everything its fine , im okey whit that its no offence by my side 🙂 i ratther to play whit skilled ppl cause i can learn more 😄

[native mauve]

Eventually there should definitely should be divisions like in Fifa where u are also matched within ur divisions but that's for when we have a bigger player base.... @twilit storm idea could be a lead up to that

Why not have @twilit storm leagues alongside the leaderboad....I believe rewards are due to be beefed up in the next few weeks anyway

[sinful hornet]

the casual players are more likely to quit if they keep getting reset so u'll end up with the top 10 farming bots and nobody else playing

[short solstice]

thats what im saying there is bigger player base , but ppl dont have so much iniciative for play 🙂 cause if u are new and log in in game u see 1200 rating ....and last 100th have 1350 , u loose one gaeme u loose second and u just simply shut down the game ....but in other optin if u have fresh start where every week every one start whit 1200 u can give a shot and try it again and again every week 🙂

[short solstice]

i mean give everyweek causal player to a chance hit leaderbord will be more iniciative for him 🙂 if now they see its simply imposible cause he loosing allready 50-80h gameplay to reach top100

its not about ranking and points , its about time

[sinful hornet]

and how many games do u thnk that guy is willing to play for 3$

all reward below rank 10 are straight up basically 0

and if u then reset more than monthly u might even get the top 3 to stop playing

[native mauve]

Nil just basically said there will be a weekly leaderboard, you need both a longer term one and a shorter term one which is the right way i think

Everyone deserves a chance at ramen it's a basic human right!

[short solstice]

rewards its still rewards u taking that from perpective on top possition , but causal will be happy for 0.20 usd in crypto 🙂

[twilit storm]

By integrating ILV rewards from other sources, we can significantly boost the Leaderboard prize pools. This would ensure each division offers attractive rewards, giving players ample motivation to actively grind during the entire season.

100 ilv for one wheel spin is it ok for you @sinful hornet ? when you need to play and win to get a fraction of that?

[sinful hornet]

well i obviously think it's beyond r d to have a wheel spin that gives more than top 3 combined

from my perspective, but from dev perspective gambling gets way more players than me getting more rewards

[viral marsh]

btw - top100 at previous week was around 1196. you start with 1200

[tribal glade]

Testnet match right now:

D9C755

[fallen vortex]

Causal lobby

[ashen mango]

Coming

[fallen vortex]

we can restart it

will be diff code

[tribal glade]

XBERPQ

Casual lobby

[short solstice]

ye thats why im talking around , there was a reset but just one for 8-9 weeks ? 🙂 basicly i dont much care about that playing for funn , but as u see even new players if pts will be reseted can take 0.5-1 usd price and be happy hooked in game 🙂 and then will be more action every week

[viral marsh]

you can start play and got into top 100 just after 1 game. what do you mean?

[short solstice]

how ? if im starting on 1200 and top 100 have allready 1350 from weeks before ? 🙂 its possible to get 150 pts in one game ? i dont know 🙂

[viral marsh]

top-100 have 1196.

[short solstice]

1330 where u see 1196 ?

[short solstice]

ohhh ....so imgame leaderbord its something else ? okey than this is littlebit confusing

[viral marsh]

it's mean some people from top-100 not play 15 games

[short solstice]

ohhh i again forget about that 😄 so its simply mean like 20ppl avrg will be disqualify so thats the reason why bottom top100 its 1154 right

[tight swift]

Does anyone want to play the testnet?

[sinful hornet]

we're also at a point where if u were just gonna reset more often than 1 month why the fuck would u not just do axie / parallel like earning by winning while holding assets instead

[short solstice]

still not getting my point , im not talking about rewards but talking about get a better chance for new players to hook them up 🙂 lets say new player try it and then click leadebord and see top 100 have allready 1350pts....so they give up , but if u reset every week they say ....okey i will try next week to be on top100 , if fail than he can try another week 🙂
( ofc i dont know before about that information where lot of players dont qualified and minimum pts threshhold is waaaay lower )
im talking it from my own perpective im not that good in arena i have 5k hours in OW but in arena i can have avrg like +2/3pts for game avrg. 😄 anyway if i see 1200 points its close to top 100 it giving me muuuuch more iniciative for playing and grinding instead if i see last one have 1350 its just easy skip for month for me 🙂
so new players just simply not playing and waiting for reset to get a new chance try to be top100 , this is main reason why we wait sometimes 10m/game 🙂

[sinful hornet]

and u just got told that top 100 is actually 1150 and u start at 1200

[viral marsh]

top-1 at 1st game give you 40 points. you got into 1350 after 5 games

[sinful hornet]

that hypothetical guy in ur scenario is either doing it for 2 weeks and quitting when he sees he's too bad or he's good enough to fly top top 50 in a few games

[short solstice]

not everyone is that good like you mate 😄 and if i play always whit top 20ppl over and over .....ohh its hard as i say im not that good my avrg place its like 4-5 possition 😄

[jolly whale]

Anyone got a list of the new synergies for weapons on testnet

[viral marsh]

but if rating will reset every week. you will play vs 1-2 players from top-10 in every game

[short solstice]

or maybe game hooke him up 🙂 still its about funn more than rewards now , if u not in top10

[noble geode]

playing testnet casual if keen UKPBFF

[sinful hornet]

if the game hooks him up he won't care that starting elo is 100 below "top 100"

[short solstice]

maybe , im just saying my own perspective how im feel it after like 50-60 games in few days

as i say still im new in arena 🙂 5k hours in OW but few hours in arena 😄

[sinful hornet]

the moment u're actually good enough to climb it will take u 10 games to go from 1200 to 1400

[viral marsh]

if i join arena, and learning how to play - i'm not expect got into top-100-50 after 10 games

[sinful hornet]

so no matter how often they reset u're gonna end up on the same positions unless enough players get so tired they quit that u're defaulting top 50 cuz there's no more players

[twilit storm]

Our focus should be on implementing leagues and fostering a healthy player base. If we achieve this, the game will become significantly fairer for all. Elite players will clash for the top-tier rewards, while mid-tier players compete for respectable prizes. Even newcomers will find enough smaller incentives to keep them actively engaged from the very beginning of their Gauntlet experience.

[sinful hornet]

yes but this needs 1k actual players at minimum

[viral marsh]

to early talk about it. let's get 300 active players at lest

[native mauve]

It's pinned to this channel)

[twilit storm]

Marketing will give us one last shot, so we'd better have a solid retention plan in place.

[viral marsh]

we still have Leviathan. probably at 1 day we will play it.
and what people start say about this mode? you have to get good, you need to have big deck, you need leagues

when we have only 1 dream about "Marketing" give us other breath....
every day my hope become less and less.

[sinful hornet]

marketing should just be saved for when mmo lite is ready cuz arena can only be a player funnel not a self sustaining gmae

[twilit storm]

We need leagues to separate the elite monsters from the average joe, otherwise the average joe will leave after few matches..after being slapped brutally.

And yes..to make it work we need a big influx of newcomers

[viral marsh]

i whait 600-800sec now for game. with leagues it will be 1 hour to get into game?
it's closed circle. we need fast que>we need league to separate players>we need more players.

[jolly whale]

Many thanks!

[twilit storm]

we will not survive with 1k or 3k players..we need 20k players. Even this is a drop of water in the ocean, but can be a starting point

you are right fox..but is the inverse logic..more balanced rewards for more players being incentivized by playing into proper leagues

[viral marsh]

we have 15k players on 1st airdrop season. only coz it was simple got it. token price was x3. reward pull was x5-10 of current

oh. no. i'm wrong. we have 15k, when OW was on sepolia. on mainnet 1st season we have around 3-4k.
so, don't know how we got into number of 20k

[sinful hornet]

unique it's not that hard, active gl

but the only way to keep them is constant competitions

[twilit storm]

multiplayer ow will be a power horse, this new gauntlet with weapons and suits rework is very good, very big tournament with hundreds k dollars will grab attention

but it s our last bullet

so we need to be prepared with a good retention plan.

[viral marsh]

it's to long before multiplayer OW.
yes, this bonding it's last future (except levi) what they prepare, after only polish and change meta will be.
so this "Arena restart" will show where we got.

[sinful hornet]

if they blow marketing budget before mmo is ready they doom themselves

[twilit storm]

true, so why don t we optimize our actual budget to tiered rewards for gauntlet?

[sinful hornet]

how would that look like i don't get it

like there's not enough players to match based on tiers

so silver guy is gonna face me for silver prizes anyway?

[twilit storm]

1k weekly for first place will justify the longer queue time in your opininon?

[sinful hornet]

no

there is no longer queue time there is legit no queue fill at the top

[twilit storm]

don t get me wrong

i am not talking bou MMR

but tiered rewards

[sinful hornet]

ye but explain what u mean

like how much is gold #1 getting and how much is last plat player getting

if last plat is getting more than #1 gold how is it any different than what we have now

[twilit storm]

I can answer this only if i have the correct amount of ILV that can be poured into gauntlet from all the rewards distribution we have now .

[viral marsh]

and if prize will be same:

1. i have play 16 hours everyday to got top-1-2 at top league.
2. just stop at previous tear, and play 2-3 hours every day to stay at 1st place

[sinful hornet]

tiered reward is again just worse than earn from winning with assets held

[twilit storm]

and how many other players will keep playing beside you. We need as many players as possible into gauntlet, no matter the "league" they re in

[sinful hornet]

and u're also solving the leviathan problem that has literally 0 solution of ever getting more than 100 players

[twilit storm]

If you are happy with this state Its ok, dunno if it s beneficial to keep people playing beside you 10 top players tho

[sinful hornet]

i mean honestly u can also just split the raffle to have more people get like 10 ILV instead of 1 getting 100

[sinful hornet]

it's not beneficial for us either, we're just braindead to be spending this much time for 100-200$ a week

but from the companies perspective every single $ in prizes now is wasted

[viral marsh]

it's why need leviathan at 1st place, not ranked arena.

[twilit storm]

we need to stimulate people to play lev games where ownership matters

beneficial for OW for the Illuvidex for the game

gyms can be a good move too...so we will reinvigorate even IZ

[sinful hornet]

leviathan straight up can't work tho, what are u gonna do put bots in levi? then u'll just need to not queue when the 5~ players with an actual team are queueing and u can just go top 3 with barely a decent team

[viral marsh]

why noone doing that in current ranked?

[dull wind]

guys I have a question for you all. Would you be playing if you weren't receiving ILV?

[twilit storm]

once owned illuvial with good stats are a reality.. players will choose lev tournaments all day.

[sinful hornet]

current ranked has more players

[sinful hornet]

no

[viral marsh]

1-2 games/day probably

[twilit storm]

so you play for the money not coz you like the game, right?

[dull wind]

thought as much

[sinful hornet]

yes

[viral marsh]

i feel fun played testnet now. but not 16 hours everyday grind.

[dull wind]

and what if you received Fuel instead of ILV. Would you still play?

[sinful hornet]

there is no world where u can get a sustainable player base in this game mode because people like the game

also no

[viral marsh]

fuel usseles. coz market dead

[sinful hornet]

i'm to the point where i'm considering not even playing for rank 2 or 3 rewards

[twilit storm]

that can be something if we aiming to have big Lev tournaments

[dull wind]

yes but what if we have an in-game Fuel market in the future?

[twilit storm]

if you can lvl up illuvials in gyms and you pay with fuel

[viral marsh]

for cosmetic xD

[sinful hornet]

realistically the only game mode that can actually sustain itself cuz people geniunely wanna play it is the mmo lite

but they need to be gods to make it good

[dull wind]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-im-god-god-bruce-almighty-gif-10843592

[viral marsh]

much of people play HS/autochess/TFT for fun. so - gauntlet can be that game, why not?

[sinful hornet]

then u take the chance to sell all ur good stuff for decent money and don't have to invest anymore absurd time into the game to gamble

[sinful hornet]

because gauntlet doesn't have wow and league ip

[viral marsh]

we still have "ace up the sleeve" - mobile gauntlet

[native mauve]

For me it's not about the ilv it's about the ranked competitive ladder and getting good at the game...it's also fun...the ilv just adds to the competition

[sinful hornet]

aha, and non weekly reset is stopping u from getting good at the game

[native mauve]

Lol i don't care about weekly reset

It's about growing the game for casual players and noobs

That's the whole point of this discussion

[twilit storm]

My ideal plan:
1- ftp gauntlet to lure ppl in, decent prizepool but nothing compared to what the prizepool will be wen lev tournaments kicks in.
4- Big marketing push announcement for leviathan tournaments with huge prizepool
3- introduce gyms into zero to let ppl lvl up without investing weeks into OW.
4- reinvigorate OW experience to bring back illuvial hunters.
5- Unleash the beast (huge Lev tournament)

[native mauve]

Defo need tiers like quantity says it would be way better to have 5 tournaments at different levels then 1 tournament where the top 32 play each other all the time and only top 8 get in

[sinful hornet]

this has legit 0% chance to actually work

[twilit storm]

this game will survive only if OW, Arena, IZ will be connected

@sinful hornet ok so let s keep the game as it is until we drain all the reward pool

[sinful hornet]

u're not getting any players for non f2p arena u can have 1 million $ levi prizepool tourney ur actual playerbase is still somewhere in the hundreds until the tournament is over

u've got exactly 2 pools of potential arena playerbase and they both only work for f2p:

high elo tft players/streamers who want a big prizepool

[sinful hornet]

and their viewers

[viral marsh]

we made our deck, and have dream and hope about leviathan when seasons have 30k ilv reward. why it will not work now when game ready?

[native mauve]

Mobile and marketing will be a game changer, the game is good and people will come until then probably not much will change

[sinful hornet]

u tell tft players they have to pay to participate they're out

[native mauve]

Unless tft marketing works

[sinful hornet]

the game is not good

[viral marsh]

it's much better that was half year ago

[sinful hornet]

if u go from 0 to tft is 10 arena's somewhere at 5

well this scale doesn't make sense cuz no it's not half as good as tft

[twilit storm]

My question is then

[native mauve]

I've never played tft played shooters and fifa my whole life

Gauntlet is a good game

On its own

And it's getting better

[sinful hornet]

if u take a million people and give them no money to play tft or gauntlet i don't think u're getting 20k to stick to gauntlet

[twilit storm]

why you are playing this "niche" game for few hundreds usd wen you can get serious money from other more healthy and famous games? too competition there rather the free lunch here? i mean you guys are way too good for the average ILV playerbase.

[viral marsh]

main thing i don't like in current gauntlet compare to autoches, it's units/items pool. we have x2-3 less. that made game less variative

[sinful hornet]

i just got sunk cost waiting for levi and for ilv pump

[viral marsh]

1-1.5k it's not few hundreds. and if start made coaching for 1k $, it's also extra money

[twilit storm]

fair but nothing compared to the money available for other more "famous" autobattlers or strategy games, aight?

[sinful hornet]

there's no guaranteed money in tft

[viral marsh]

not agree. i got less in wow.
hs/autochess - f2p for fun

[sinful hornet]

u spend ur whole year playing 12 hours a day for a chance to make money unless u're a solid streamer then there's turbo money

[twilit storm]

coz there are way too many good players?

[sinful hornet]

no, cuz there's no leaderboard rewards

[twilit storm]

what about tournaments?

[sinful hornet]

there's a few big tournaments in an rng game and u have to commit the whole year to qualify

[viral marsh]

not sure any of us so good, to play world tournaments. xD

[twilit storm]

uhm I got it

you are good until you play in a few hundreds, wen things get serious your advantage shrink too much then

[viral marsh]

most of players around from crypto world.
but people from game world play at other step i think.

[sinful hornet]

i was at best a low challanger level tft players and that was years ago, that means there's at least hundreds better than me for tournaments where u need top 8 to make meaningful money

the real money maker in tft is streaming, the mid moneymaker used to be boosting idk if it's worth it anymore

but crypto card games used to be insane money makers, 100 total playerbase games paying 3k a month

[twilit storm]

dunno ser

was talking to TSG few week ago

And he told us that a tft streamer with a very healty viewerbase is struggling to monetize

tft is not dota or fortnite

[sinful hornet]

u can't struggle to monetize a "very healthy VIEWERbase"

[twilit storm]

healty is always correlated to the numbers of active viewers, tft is a niche game hollow, nothing that can compete with Dota, LoL, Fornite.

[sinful hornet]

bro tft streamers is like multiple x the viewership of dota streamers

it's just twitch at the end of the day, 1 viewer in tft is 1 viewer in dota, just play the ads and u literally can't not monetize "healthy" viewerbase

and tft is more clipable than dota so more viewers to funnel from shorts

[sinful hornet]

ye that's why i said streamers and not total viewership, cuz dota tournaments are higher # than tft

there's 20k of those dota viewers right now into tournaments and there's no big tft streamer online

prime time vs prime time no tournaments tft is 2x if not more

[sinful hornet]

damn i'm turbo off

[native mauve]

I think a lot of people underestimating the potential of mobile. Get this translated into Philippino, Indian and asia and playing decent on mobile and we have access to 10,000x player base than we do currently...we won't know anything until then....that must be a high priority and I hope it is

I think we also need a cartoon on Netflix that should be launched around or shortly after mmo, I think 90% of pokemon game success in the west was because of that

The game came out in 96 in Japan and both the cartoon and game launched in 98 in USA at the same time

Right now our base is middle aged men, its the kids that make things viral

[cursive echo]

Everyone knows that TFT is not the best option to attract players

[twilit storm]

so what?

[sinful hornet]

so you have mmo lite ready and hopefully an actual good game, then u do a really big prizepool arena tourney with the highest viewer tft players and hope that's gonna funnel players into mmo or it's doomed

or u just skip arena alltogether and just sponsor big streamers to play the mmo instead

[twilit storm]

so we skip completely any e-sport (leviathan-OW farmers to fuel strong comp-IZ to train Illuvials) for an mmo, correct?

and you think this mmo can attract and retain thousands and thousands of players, right? no more e-sports only an mmo (lite) with very cool graphics.

[viral marsh]

mmo in current state/even mmo lite not give so much hope/believe in. look around to other mmo.
why people have play in this?

[solid wadi]

Are there no Gauntlet players outside main US hours?

[sinful hornet]

i just see 0 world where there's any demand for any game with original ip other than something like a roguelite

u can take tft make it 2 times better and swap out champions for illuvials and there's no players to play it, at best u can somehow get enough players competing for say 100k$ but they also pay combined like 200k$ for it

idea of enough people going through a "loop" with the whole overworld-iz-leviathan thing is just delusional unless maybe u can get the poor countries on phones to do it

[sinful hornet]

mmo here only means it's an online game not that it's like wow

basically arena is mmo too

[twilit storm]

arena is an autobattler not an mmo

[sinful hornet]

ye it's an mmo autobattler

[twilit storm]

ye it s a boat with wheels

cmon hollow

[viral marsh]

in wow you have raid every half year with 8-10 different bosses/mechanics with 4 different modes (harder and harder)
you have 8-10 different new dungeons with 4 different bosses.
you have different lore content which come for new 10-20 hours gameplay at same timeframe.
you have loot/challenge where people can spend time together again and again.

here in mmo lite i can't find any of this options.
only fight for illuvials with good stats(loot) which you can use for leviathan.
probably everything changes when they release it, but i can't see that

[sinful hornet]

mmo just means massively multiplayer online

the whole ecosystem is already mmo

they're not gonna make a wow

they're gonna make some shit where u can maybe queue up with 3 people

[viral marsh]

yes, we have 3 maps. probably got 6. with 1 mega-boss and 10-20 different other fight encounter.
but where challenge? ok, you kill this mega boss - what next?
in poe you grind for different kind of gear. same in other mmo.
what you loot by defeat them? shards?

[sinful hornet]

that's why i said they need to be gods, cuz right now not a single game can sustain itself

[viral marsh]

it's why you need success leviathan, coz it's heart of all ecosystem.

[sinful hornet]

but leviathan can't work

[viral marsh]

then how all other will work?

[twilit storm]

ye how?

with skins that are barely visible in arena? or the drone skin market?

[sinful hornet]

mmo lite godlike game or they pull some other game out of their hat that's godlike

i don't think there's a high chance of that happening but i don't see how the chance of arena sustaining itself is not close to 0

[viral marsh]

look on OW LB. week by week people finish in top-100 with less and less points.
same with arena.
is it people play OW now? except farming lb points?

[sinful hornet]

but those are irrelevant

almost nobody playing right now is playing for anything other than money

and when the money is not good they stop playing

[viral marsh]

"mmo lite godlike game " - i can't imagine it

[native mauve]

That's just for the vertical slice i.e. 5% of the game. They literally have a guy that worked on wow and have made 1 boss in 6 weeks. They can easily get 5 to 6 bosses. I'm sure the loot will be skins weapons illuvials. Whether they get funding and a can make a decent game is a different story but this 100% pessimistic scenario before they've worked even 5% is crazy

[sinful hornet]

they have to pull something actually insanely good out of their ass

[twilit storm]

illuvimoto?

jk eh

[viral marsh]

it's take more that 1 year after we hear 1st time about mmo lite>it will come to live even with 6 bosses. it's content for 5-10 hours gameplay, ok let's say 100 hours.
if i hear fight for skins? is it joke?
weapons? for what? in other game you need gear to climb for higher and higher content.
only if maps will be repeatable with loot you need for something, probably it will work.
illuvials? then we need any kind of use for them. - success leviathan
and i think we limited with time, if everything not start work in next 1-1.5 year.

[sinful hornet]

then they need to find money for 40 months runway or they're doomed

[viral marsh]

i say optimistic scenario, to not made it dark with 5-6month. xD

[native mauve]

I think the game should be exactly like u say. From what I've heard od the new guys that's exactly what they are trying to do

[native mauve]

i think this should be the next game after the mmo lol > leviathan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqClOEYHBkY (just joking sort of...why not?)

[rancid raptor]

1 hp or 26 hp?

[dawn isle]

Casual Testnet
P2RMN4

[rapid zenith]

I think I had 26 - didn't notice it say that on the drone

[cursive echo]

[zenith mortar]

Testnet

foools

@rancid raptor

@native mauve

@viral marsh

JNKWWM

[ashen mango]

At around 2:15 pm UTC I entered a game in which I could only see 7 players in the 1st round, then it came back to normal

@worn tree

I was also unable to see their comp by hovering over their names

[rancid raptor]

At the gym rn, thanks for the invite

[dawn isle]

Casual Testnet
CUJB6X

[viral marsh]

32 players total (24 Sit-n-Go + 8 leaderboard seeds) what does +8 LB seeds mean?

[zenith mortar]

mistake

the damn document

is frozen though

and i cant fix

because too many in it

[viral marsh]

8?xD

[zenith mortar]

ranks 1-8 get 16 points starting in the sitngo

ranks 9-16 get 8 points into the sit n go

[viral marsh]

yes, i see. thank you

[zenith mortar]

so you could skip the sitngo and possibly still qualify

possibly

the bottom end of sitngo had 16 points last tournametn

[viral marsh]

it's mean rating reset not come to us at this week. but we got new patch

[zenith mortar]

yeah i dont know if/when those things both happen

could be interesting

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-about-to-get-spicy-unmesh-dinda-piximperfect-its-going-to-be-interesting-things-will-be-exciting-gif-26858876

[viral marsh]

no no. you say we will do tournament at this (new) patch on yestarday pod-cast

[zenith mortar]

yeah the new patch on testnet

should be on mainnet before tournament

if for some reason the patch doesnt make mainnet before the tournament we probably postpone

but i think it will make it

in plenty of time

[frozen tartan]

Will the qualifier matches also be played in the new version of the game?

[viral marsh]

need 1-2 day to train on it. but i think it's not much bugs on this build.
just staked ranger who stay afk sometimes.
OP weapons with big dmg.

[zenith mortar]

yeah the ranger afk thing edi investigating

happened again to me today

[zenith mortar]

yes

[ashen mango]

Amazing tournament rules and prizepool @zenith mortar 🔥

[sinful hornet]

i'll give it an 8, but ideally patch should be out at least 3 days before tournament just to make sure we're not getting some insane bugs or exploits

this should be reconsidered, we're already sharing screen there's no cheating possible if the game bugs multiple times it shouldn't punish the players

[regal hound]

A Hollow 8/10 is like a 11/10 tbf

[ashen mango]

You were very close to not getting the 16 points @ember sail

[sinful hornet]

a 10/10 for me would be a literal bo10 into bo10 final so it's hard to get more

[zenith mortar]

lol

I have a life and family ser

Well I try to have a life

[viral marsh]

play all week semi and semi finals. every day 1 part. and weekend 2 day finals

[zenith mortar]

Sorry what’s the feedback

[sinful hornet]

don't restrict remakes

(max 1 restart) is the problem

[zenith mortar]

But past round 5 is fine for no reset

[sinful hornet]

ideally we won't ever need more than 1 but it's not in players control and it costs maybe 1 minute

if it was on live patch ye there'd be 0 reason to remake past round 5

keep it flexible in case something like the immortal ranger bug reappears other than that i have 0 problem with that one

just no reason to restrict players not able to connect more than 1

on round 1

[sinful hornet]

it's not for next week?

oh it's not i just read

[ashen mango]

The snapshot was yesterday, same time as weekly rewards

[sinful hornet]

is seeding purely amount of points in qualifier or does it take rank into account somehow?

[mental stone]

Is anyone playing testnet right now?

[hot pond]

@dark scaffold Is it possible to check if I am somehow in a ghost game? I was in queue and got some error code and game crash, now when I enter queue it just says finding match without showing player count

[sinful hornet]

are ghost games an actual thing anymore? i've not seen anyone report one anymore and never had a player dc for the whole game

[hot pond]

not sure, thats why I am asking

I dc'd for a whole game actually because my ISP decided to turn off my internet for like 10 mins two days ago :/

[zenith mortar]

Yeah I mean ideally we don’t have issues and I will keep it flexible depending on the situation, I just don’t want to keep restarting 100x

[sinful hornet]

in other tournaments if something happens it's usually something happening to 1 guy a few times and then it gets fixed or he drops but normal for almost all lobbies

[twilit storm]

remembner that at round 4 there is the weap choice eh

so..if shitty weap..someone can call for a restart

or plug off the cable lol

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-im-just-saying-wait-just-saying-gif-16943701

make it at round 3 and there will be no such problems

[sinful hornet]

but we're sharing screen from first game

[twilit storm]

@zenith mortar and the sheet says snapshot already taken..while on X it says June 5

if you unplug the wifi..there is no screen evidence

[zenith mortar]

It’s meant for June 5

I’ll fix

[viral marsh]

and if not good location, which you can see on load?

[twilit storm]

ahhh

[sinful hornet]

wtf's a bad location

[zenith mortar]

region modifier

[sinful hornet]

ye but which one is bad

[zenith mortar]

another good reason to have a max reset

[zenith mortar]

eh idk

i suck

[viral marsh]

some people prefere play at one, some at other

[sinful hornet]

man nobody's gonna do this shit, we'd have done it already in the previous tournaments, 20+ of the players won't even realize what the region is until round 5 anyway

[zenith mortar]

yeah i mean honestly we havent had anyone do anythin nefarious yet

not to say that people wont

but its been pretty good so far

[sinful hornet]

it's just to not have some unlucky guy get completely fucked because he can't connect to the game 2 times

[viral marsh]

but how you can know? did he have problem, or use alt+F4

[zenith mortar]

you cant

just dont be a POS

lol

[sinful hornet]

but there's not actually anything to gain, nobody's gonna quit because they don't like a region

[viral marsh]

you can put man behind his back. is it possible add this options to qualify?

[sinful hornet]

i can see weapon but if it happens multiple times then u obviously smell it

ok actually i can solve it

you can just say multiple remakes allowed for not being able to connect to the game at all

no remakes if all players have connected before weapon selection unless it's a bug

and if it's a bug u can see it on screen

[zenith mortar]

yeah i mean honestly guys its my discretion during the event, if you want to try to fuck around

try me

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbik-cute-meme-influencer-gif-13912399472759708013

[stoic moon]

ranked lobby +2

[west plume]

You are to hard on your self Rich

I have class starting soon to bring you up to elo 1200
In no time.

[zenith mortar]

I’ll be 1200 next week no worries

[west plume]

Reset incoming👀

[ember sail]

Am I out of it? 16 points would be what... that last classification was from that game where you finished 4th, I thought you would win that game, luckily I managed to win and stopped for the day, I barely slept that day

[zenith mortar]

The snapshot is next week

[ember sail]

oh right cool

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-damage-emotional-damage-meme-funny-gif-24332819

I keep getting code 400 matchmaking error when trying to find a game.

I hope this means I'm not afk in a lobby getting stomped on rn 😅

[pliant jay]

ugh me too

[mighty tulip]

@west plume do you know if there's any server issues rn?

@zenith mortar we having server issues?

[mighty tulip]

I was stuck on 8/8 for a while and gambled on a restart thinking I might be in a game. Just put me back on main menu so hopefully not but I can't search for a new game so who knows 😅

[cursive echo]

just have to wait wait....

[fluid raptor]

@zenith mortar hey rich. I am clearly not qualified for top 16 next week, so it is not sit and go. so how is the rest qualified I could not understand it. Can I join it? how do I do?

[zenith mortar]

The top 16 is from next week

[mighty tulip]

I'm impatient, I'm in a rush to come 5th

[fluid raptor]

I have not participated earlier. so I dont know how

[zenith mortar]

And all they have to do is play during the sit n go

The top 16 get extra points going into the sit n go

[fluid raptor]

and for us mortals? XD

[zenith mortar]

It may have been that 00:00 reset

[zenith mortar]

Just play during the sit n go and get top 32

[rancid raptor]

hmm fusing now does not erase previous traits

[pliant jay]

i am in now

[zenith mortar]

The top 16 still have to make the top32

They just get a head start

[fluid raptor]

oh got it. so it is first 32, and top 16 goes without knockout right?

[mighty tulip]

There's a leaderboard reset? Apologies, I've been offline for a week so I'm a little out of the loop

[fluid raptor]

I thought top 16 goes directly, and rest knockout round is open to everyone

[zenith mortar]

No top 16 just get extra points so for example… if @viral marsh gets 16 points and decides not to play the sit n go then he will end with 16 points but if the top 32 from sit n go have 17 points for the bottom end then he would not make the knockout stage

[zenith mortar]

I just meant that people seem to have issues connecting around that time we are still investigating

There should be a reset with new patch afaik

Two separate resets I was talking about

[fluid raptor]

but a reset should have been nice before the announcement. I was 950 yesterday

I have no chance

although I got 100 in 1 day

[zenith mortar]

I think there will be a reset before the tournament honestly

[fluid raptor]

that would be nice 🙂

[zenith mortar]

So things will be interesting

[fluid raptor]

in fact weekly reset would have been better

totally

[zenith mortar]

Which is the way I like it… to be interesting

[rancid raptor]

hovering illuvial over ranger seems weird, i liked the previus version better. Seeing the composites it would give si cool though

[zenith mortar]

It’s changing

To a drag and drop

Or click I think

Either way the hover I don’t like either

The hovering to bond that is

[rancid raptor]

what is an empowered atack damage?

[zenith mortar]

I want to be able just to click

[zenith mortar]

This I don’t know lol

[rancid raptor]

lol

[zenith mortar]

Maybe like full hyper?

Idk

[rancid raptor]

makes sense

i guess

illuvials drop iteams before round end thats nice

ok every augment says empowered hits i kind of need to know what is that 😅

[south geyser]

casual gauntlet instant Q, but ranked is dead?

No elo decay?

[zenith mortar]

Let me look internal docs and see

[worldly remnant]

5/8

[twilit storm]

seems a weird definiton of "Attack damage** being empowered **to 375"

[rancid raptor]

but attack damage is in fact not empowered to 375, also that would be crazy

[twilit storm]

so with wave amplification attack damage remain the same ?

[fluid raptor]

dat upgrades seemed on the air to me also :/

other than that it seems great

[rancid raptor]

i'd need to double check but im pretty sure it did remain the same

[fluid raptor]

some % upgrades would have been better imo

[south geyser]

still 5/8

[fallen vortex]

we r gonna testnet me and tsg

[tribal glade]

Casual lobby, testnet:

PJBVGM

[mighty tulip]

I'm reluctant to play testnet. Not because I think I won't like it but because I think I'll like it so much I'll hate playing mainnet 😅

[jolly whale]

This is exactly how I feel right now

Although if I pick up the wrong illuvial in the draft one more time! I might loose it

[worldly token]

How is everyone feeling about the draft deck? It is described as a comeback mechanic, but I dont think it really helps a lot. Plus if I am last I dont even see all the illuvials when I can pick. I might miss out on exactly what I need because they keep spawning in the beginning

But I am biased, I was never a fan of it in tft aswell 😅

[severe portal]

[vivid stirrup]

Fair take, and probably the reality ^^ But we gotta remember that Illuvium had to cut their QA team, so if we don't do the testnet testing, nobody will. And we might get a buggy mainnet release

[uncut comet]

wait wasnt there a tournament today from patate?

[bronze spire]

i think its in about 3 hours

gg @native mauve

[native mauve]

gg @bronze spire

[hot pond]

Am I in anyones game?

[turbid osprey]

yea in 1h44, i still cant get illuvidata wrong time right so the tournament "already'' started on their side

Check ins open in 44m in Hyperion Academy discord :)

[uncut comet]

how wtf my shop disapear

haha fuck this now game grey

[fair hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-oh-my-woah-whoa-cute-gif-4765390319311889096

[twilit storm]

known issue already reported.

[cinder cloud]

Your opponent on the testnet is a computer, right?

[cinder cloud]

Either you are strong or your opponent is a computer and weak.

[fallen vortex]

I do hate playing mainnet. I'm on strike. I was waiting for new weapons/suits and now the game is ruined

The old system is dumb

Down with rolling for weapons

[fallen vortex]

Idk what coding they did for the timezones stuff but its so fucked 😂😂

[mighty tulip]

It's the bonding for me. You can get super creative with it and it really opens the game up. The weapon rework is really interesting too. I can't wait to build some OP rangers.

Maybe I'll try a testnet casual tonight. Or maybe I should just wait... I don't know 😅

[mighty tulip]

I've put well over 1000 hours testing illuviums builds over the years. I think skipping one so I continue to enjoy mainnet is ok at this point

[vivid stirrup]

good stuff man! not trying to call you out here, just using the opportunity to put out a general reminder to everyone ^^

[supple epoch]

The new bonding selecting is odd to get the target !?

[tight swift]

Anyone want to play on the testnet? I'm tired of beating bots with random teams

Has anything been changed in the RNG in the shop? It seems like sometimes there are more of certain Illuvials and others are completely missing, even though nobody is using them

[west plume]

Have seen that aswell, especially if a player gets knocked out his/her illuvials don't seem to be added to the pool again

[hot pond]

So there has been no change then 😂

[ebon aspen]

Testnet JW28KM

[safe valve]

10 mins and i would be in

[ebon aspen]

2/8

Testnet JW28KM

3/8 test

start with 4?

[native mauve]

u guys started already? ill be down in like 5 min...or can play next one after

[severe steeple]

8RNFUV testnet

[severe steeple]

8RNFUV

[winter breach]

Where can I see info about the testnet update and draft deck etc?

[ebon aspen]

TEST 8RNFUV

[native mauve]

coming)

[ebon aspen]

last call 8RNFUV TEST

[severe steeple]

W984GW testnet

[native mauve]

gg's guys) im off to bed

[ebon aspen]

gg

[worldly token]

I've never seen the people play that much testnet 😂 we need it on main!

[ebon aspen]

WK3UBV TEST

2/8

3/8

4/8

[void dust]

Last game... take enchanter chip first thing because I know how this goes... sure enough didn't get a dodo stage 2 until wave 15. gg. Check every player - other air player didn't get stage 2 dodo until wave 17 not a single dodo with any other player. It's impossible for this to be happening. It's BUGGED. For the love of god please fix this. Don't need a carousel, don't need a merrry-go-round. Just need the game fixed. please. please. please. ty

[ashen mango]

Is there a plan to improve pathfinding?

It's ridiculous sometimes

Illuvials update their pathfinding every 2 sec or so which means that they can literally walk besides an enemy and not attack it because they are focused on another one

[winter breach]

@mighty tulip lol that was so close

gg

[mighty tulip]

Yeah I thought you had me tbf, GG

[winter breach]

louloura seems to always survive it 😉

[valid stirrup]

Test NEt anyone ? code : T3HJ4U

let`s have some funn

[ebon aspen]

T3HJ4U

[west plume]

ill be there in 2 mi

[valid stirrup]

perfect

we waiting for you

@zenith mortar push the botton for test net version to be on main net so we can playing all

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/salt-n-pepa-push-it-real-good-hip-hop-rap-80s-gif-16181344

[frozen tartan]

Yes, I would also like to play the updated version of the game.
We need to prepare for the tournament.

[sinful hornet]

there's kinda no reason to not push this to mainnet tbh, even if the game literally breaks it's still better than current patch

assuming we're getting all the nerfs in

[valid stirrup]

@gaunt axle can you please Press the botton for main net verison 😄 we are here for it#

[supple epoch]

https://tenor.com/view/josh-whitehouse-valley-girl-valley-girl-remake-valley-girl-2020-randy-gif-2832284335403504716

not a fan of that carousel

[winter breach]

@winged fox your team bro, woah 😄

[west plume]

Pretty sure Rogier cant push that

[violet summit]

Anyone playing testnet?

[mental stone]

Make a lobby. I’ll join

[fluid raptor]

do you guys know when the leaderboard will be reset?

and this thing everyday XD

[fallen vortex]

It really feels like they aren't. Every single game it feels like they aren't, or at least there's a delay of a few rounds

[fluid raptor]

at least the games should have been cancelled at this rate, this was supposed to be the last game :/ now waiting for it for about a game time 😦

[fluid raptor]

game is on bte

btw

[fallen vortex]

testnet build on main net yet?

[safe valve]

no

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-8493382194019209370

[vivid stirrup]

i love it 😄 feels like a cooler version of the tft carousel

in general gauntlet starts to feel more and more like how overwatch felt after team fortress 2, not the same, but new, exciting, smooth and very good looking.

more balancing, tweaking and polishing is coming and needed but this is kind of what I was hoping we would get when we first talked about gauntlet

[native mauve]

I'm having a blast playing, can't wait for battle pass and mobile!

[dull wind]

can u share what are you specifically looking forward with battle-pass?

[wicked grotto]

Hello.
Regarding the battle pass, it seems to me that it is very important not to make the same mistake as before. In order for people to start actively purchasing a battle pass, we need a well-thought-out and, most importantly, open policy in this direction. People must understand what they are paying for and what benefit they are getting from it. This information must be public and in front of users.
As for what exactly a battle pass should be, it seems to me that it is something like an entrance ticket, the profit from which is distributed into several components, which are also publicly available and visible as they are filled. What these parts are depends on the type of battle or tournament. I would think about the following sections: % for organizers, % for participants, % for a weekly tournament, % for a quarterly tournament, % for an annual tournament. The lion's share of the percentages should go to the participants, then this will serve as motivation.

[dull wind]

typically battle-passes unlock:

• Currency
• XP Boosts
• Cosmetics
• Emotes & animations

I'll be submitting a couple of feedback-ideas in the near future regarding this topic.

[ashen mango]

A lot of units on the side 😂

It's a spectating bug

[winged fox]

it remains only to answer the question of who needs it at all? Maybe it's worth setting up the economy in the game first? make assets in demand? and then try to make money

[native mauve]

I'm interested in cosmetics, new battle boards, ranger suit skins, illuvitar disks things like that....reasons to play one more game other than just a ladder or just to win

[native mauve]

If the battle pass leads to players sticking around more playing more games that will lead to a healthier ecosystem overall...to make assets in demand need more active players that's one way to help with that. Look at how many people buy illuvitars and they have held their value pretty well. Add some of that in a battle pass and you will have more casual players outside the top 100 that will want to keep playing

I think a good single player survival mode will help with that too to help casuals practise and improve...instead if getting smashed by the best players all the time

[native mauve]

Xp is very important. Having matches help level up owned illuvials is crucial to have insensitive to have more games

[supple epoch]

Once i get the steps down ...

[turbid osprey]

testnet game

GRAYDQ

[viral marsh]

i'm also iterested in cosmetic. but that should looks cool. and if you mute your opponent every game, and it's become harder to see your unit placement when board switch now, i don't like that. you play on common board with bright 100, then jump on other to bright 40. it's not good.

[valid stirrup]

How it is looking youre point when you bit the top player =))) +31

[mental stone]

anyone playing testnet?

[mighty tulip]

You still playing testnet? I'll jump in on next game if you've not got 8.

[turbid osprey]

No im off pc now

[mighty tulip]

Ah no worries

[viral marsh]

and how they looks when you got top-6?

[rancid raptor]

do you think slayer needs some kind of a rework? its so clumpsy. gg btw got a bit scared when you won that round

also playing the scream taunt at the same time was kind of funnny

[viral marsh]

if you put true-sign on other unit instead of rai, i'l have 0 chances

[rancid raptor]

dang you a re right, didnt realize you had 6 air. So many things to think about, i was just trying to stall slayers from getting first kill fast

[valid stirrup]

verry nice detail 😮

[valid stirrup]

only 13 point lose 😛 it is feel like i can lose anoter and still good

[rancid raptor]

dude how? i got only +22 for beating the whole atlas team 😅

[valid stirrup]

you looking goood GG Simon

nice team 😄

[rancid raptor]

haha thanks, i dove stright into templar since no one was contesting it and got lucky getting the tempar augment

[languid sparrow]

This is why

[rancid raptor]

now i got nothing to complain about, thanks i guess..

[sinful hornet]

because slickz not in the lobby

[rancid raptor]

i hate it when everything makes sense and its fair 😂

[languid sparrow]

It's what it's lol

[gaunt hull]

4th but +11 hahaha

[languid sparrow]

I could create an avg per position 1 to 8, global and per rank title... *but later *

[violet summit]

I thought the leaderboard would reset today
Maybe tomorrow then?

[mighty tulip]

Just tried testnet and it's as good as I feared 😅 .

[sinful hornet]

the snapshot is on wednesday so reset until then makes no sense

[viral marsh]

any idea why LB reset at middle of week?

[violet summit]

Cause it's the first day of June and the reset is usually on a month basis

[spring basin]

We've only had one reset so far, and that was after five weeks, so what you're saying is not correct.

Also, as Hollow is saying, the snapshot is on the 15th, so it wouldn't make any sense to do it before then.

[violet summit]

Just asking daily about this and seemed it could happen

It would make sense if the new big patch is coming to have a LB reset

[sinful hornet]

and you do what with the weeks rewards

[violet summit]

I understand that the LB must occur after the snapshot

[zenith mortar]

Well it’s literally beta so resetting them should be expected despite whether it not it’s “in the middle of the week”

So I’m hoping it gets reset Monday

But we will see

Maybe Tuesday?

And I don’t know if it’s meant to be a hard or soft reset

Hopefully hard

[violet summit]

In my opinion, a new patch like the one on testnet deserves a LB reset. Anything that you guys decide I'm happy with

[valid stirrup]

Let`s do it @zenith mortar press that bottom we all waiting for it

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-button-red-button-mojo1985-gif-25263712

[viral marsh]

if we got reset Monday, any reason grind LB now?

[sinful hornet]

then at least do make some announcement with 24 hours before it happens or pay the rewards with no minimum games played

[turbid osprey]

if they reset it should be on the weekly snapshot of course

now we also have the ranger standing big tournament that snapshot on weekly snapshot time