🎮〕illuvium-arena

[turbid osprey]

with increased effectiveness

[sinful hornet]

i've seen this augment both work and not

its the execute part that sometimes doesn't work unless execute is something i dont get

[turbid osprey]

Execute 10% means when the target is sub 10% it gets 1 shot (executed)

Not sure if its only aa or omega too but i think only from aa

[sinful hornet]

i mean sure

but that augment doesn't say any %

[ashen mango]

I mean before poison was dealing 2% of the target's max health per sec IIRC, now it's 4%

And I agree, shadowbane's execute doesn't work all the time

I would say that it works less than 50% of the time

[rancid raptor]

ok it sometimes works. it didnt work equipped on an axodon, the illuvial didnt blink or exectured anyone. it did work later on in another illuvial

checked it a number of rounds, its not like the illuvial was instantly stunned or charmed or anything

[turbid osprey]

Ah yea this augment is just straight kill no matter the % health

[topaz lake]

Last patch. It was 1% by default and 2% for Blight/Toxic. Now it's double.

I'll check this, it probably has the same problem as Defiant.

[rancid raptor]

some extra info

[topaz lake]

AOE stuns can interrupt the effect, but it's not something I'd like to see.

[rancid raptor]

it still wasnt the case though

its like early rounds and i could see nothing like that was happening

[ashen mango]

It's too much imo

[sinful hornet]

that legendary poison augment was one of the best in the game before the patch so yea idk

the disparity from the ones that give actual stats and the ones that don't is huge

[topaz lake]

Might be. It forces you to play some healers. Maybe it's too much now because it also has Health + Resist.

We can bring it down to the initial value if it's too oppressive.

[sinful hornet]

i'd rather it gets brought back down in value than get it's hp messed with that would make it unpickable

[violet summit]

Something is wrong with illuvium pool... I rolled 150 gold to find 1 archie when only one player played with an Archos and still couldn't find it

[sinful hornet]

at what level and how many 1 costs were out

[violet summit]

started rolling at lv7

[sinful hornet]

cuz if it's lvl 7-8 and nobody's doing many 1 costs then it's not insane to happen

[violet summit]

and the player was out a long time ago, but didn't even reach archeleon...

so there should be plenty of archies in the pool

how could I only find 8 in the entire game?

[sinful hornet]

because if no one else is building up 1 costs the whole pool of 1 costs is there and u have to go through it

[violet summit]

Its very unlucky RNG it feels like

I managed to win but that verdant would definitely secure my win with more certainty 😜

[tropic forge]

Nah, it´s because he was doing a broken build and the RNG noticed.

🤣

Lot of broken builds to report today... having so much fun reporting 🤣😂

[sinful hornet]

it's not really unlucky, i think if you're commiting to not stay 6 you accept that u might basically just not hit the 1 cost u want

[supple epoch]

Any pointers for some one trying put things to work

[turbid osprey]

Id suggest starting to play 1 type of team and get familliar with it

Try to figure out what and when things go wrong and work from there

Right now the easiest good type of teams you can try are fighters or corner psions

[supple epoch]

@turbid osprey thanks ill have to see if i can get it going ..

[turbid osprey]

Let me know how it goes :)

[languid sparrow]

Leviathan illuvials set +1

[spring basin]

Thanks! Would be nice if we can get a hotfix this coming week 🙏

Corner comps are already taking over a lot of first places, and champions like Blotto, Titanor and gnarl are already really hard to kill if they have tank items. Personally, I feel bulwarks are closer to being too good than the opposite, pretty much every single comp includes them for that reason. I think a global damage nerf would lead to tank/corner comps dominating and completely taking over the meta, which would be devastating for the game.

[west quartz]

yeah @worn tree has been campaining for bulwarks nerfs for the past 2 years or so

[dark vine]

agree with slickz here. Got several comps in mind that more or less are on the same level of each other. I usually decide based on rng. I think at the moment we should wait with balance patches. about half of them include bw.

[west quartz]

i think when it first released you could stack like 7 bulwark for 130 res, we've come a long way already

[topaz lake]

There might be other tweaks involved, not just that, but we'll see once we reach that point. Out of curiosity, are you guys using Resistance reduction Augments? I'd like an opinion on those.

[west quartz]

we used to pass through tanky teams with an easy enchanter comp back when we could use ranger bonding and didn't need to high roll 9 3cost unit to get enchanter synergy

and when it dealt like 3 times more pure damage :p

[dark vine]

rarely, I use heal/defense augments for one comp and with the others I am more looking for direct damage augments (op, attack, att speed...), but maybe that is a bad approach. never managed to figure out how much of an impact resi breaking augments had. I guess, now that I think about it, it would be smart to have at least one resi breaking augment...)

[topaz lake]

Yes, at the moment, most of the balance is still in an uncertain place. A lot of balancing factors and team comps will change once the bonding is in.

[topaz lake]

Anti-Resist/Heal/Shield, etc should make a big difference, if they don't, then that's a problem. Looking at their values, I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be picked. It's probably because now we have them categorized, but without the forging being implemented, it's kinda hard to actually get them.

[dark vine]

agree, looking at the numbers they make a big difference. My reasoning for rarely picking anti heal/shield is that not every comp includes that. So, I would go for it if I want to contest a player with a strong corner comp. Regarding anti-resi I guess I should use it more often

[ashen mango]

It makes sense for vertical rogues to be strong when you get so many class composites just playing rogues

• Predator
• Revenant
• Slayer
• Vanguard
• Phantom (I don't even know what it does tbh, I never see it)

[sinful hornet]

i auto pick those and the only time i ever feel like something's too tanky is if it gets to stage 3, like so far a goliant to me is less tankier than a vermilliare that's getting hit by the whole backline

but the game is fundemantally flawed in the sense that the balance makes basically full melee comps be a thing but the board itself can't handle having all those units find the space to attack something

so tbh i have no idea how tanky they get if u don't have shred, and before we can actually craft our items this and true sight are really annoying to not hit

[wide aspen]

Hey guys!

I have added some Comp Ideas in the Public Document. Feel free to check them out!

At the moment, there are 6 of them. Some of them are more played than other, but they are all solid comps that can easily get you to top4 if you play them right.

A note before anything: These are not meant to show you "The best comps out there". These are mostly meant to give the new players a helping hand in discovering which comps to go for, a direction.

So yes, some comps may not be perfect, some of them could be adjusted to be better, but that is not their point. Their point is simply to give you some ideas.

Later down the road I might even post some crazy comps that are not that good, just for theorycrafting sake. But in the beginning, I will focus on solid comps. All 6 comps that are now there are solid, I have managed to get top2 with all of them and many of them have been played even in tournaments.

Hope this helps!

[languid sparrow]

What are the coming change related to the Arena ?
• DroneChip have been added
• Bounding is .... ?

[uncut comet]

new waepon and suit system , spectate mode

[twilit storm]

carousel

[viral marsh]

sometimes people build and hold units on bench. so you don't see it, and can't calculate how much more units in pool.
even his comp don't need archi it's happend, same with other units.
if we can check not only opponent board, but bench as well - it's resolve this problem. at lest not in live, but at start of round for example.
in autochess you can check everything your opponent have, here we have only half opportunity.

[tawdry sinew]

hmm, more things to learn...

[frozen tartan]

Hello
Where is this image from?

[twilit storm]

Gauntlet Grinders IV starts in less than one hour.
Qualification: Apr 14 00:00 UTC - Apr 17 23:59 UTC.
Final Event: Apr 18 21:00 UTC.
Prize: 60 ILV.
Snapshot every 24 hours.
Let' s fight!

Just play ranked, we will keep track of your scores.

[tawdry sinew]

It's from an old blog post but I somehow did not see this before.

[twilit storm]

gg @bronze spire nice fight

[bronze spire]

Yea gg wp glad I had a lot of health to spare to lose a few rounds at the end haha

[twilit storm]

it was close eh..for moment i was wondering.."can I beat him again and finish first?" but mehh..not good enuff

[rancid raptor]

dang xD

[ebon aspen]

7/8

[vivid stirrup]

3

[fallen vortex]

its magical

[summer frigate]

I lost like 30 points because of the find game bug. 🥲 @topaz lake

[worldly remnant]

can we have a match history in the next update? or is there plan to integrate match history anytime soon?

[native mauve]

yes i had the same thing, just lost 50 pints @summer frigate

Game stuck on loading screen, couldnt get in. Got into different game straight away, came 3rd showed +10 lost -50 points must have counted other game as a loss

@twilit storm @topaz lake can we somehow cancel that in points or at least in the Gauntlent grinders?

[ashen mango]

Is it a new bug that started recently?

[native mauve]

i dunno i game said loading...i htought id be put in a game, took too long so i quit and got back in...then a new game loaded i played came 2nd said plus 10 1560 points then i look and i have 1520 point lol

maybe i was put in 2 games at once? not sure...

[summer frigate]

I saw it happen to someone else before

You can get in 2 games simultaneously and be afk in one.

[summer frigate]

Yes, that’s exactly what happened lol.

[native mauve]

yeah i think me and you were both afk in the same game lol

[viral marsh]

when nerf ranger? why so much dmg?

[wide aspen]

The ranger will be completely reworked by adding back bonding and amplifiers, which will significantly improve the ranger's progression of power through the match.
This is our top priority at the moment, so expect the ranger to be substantially better balanced soon™.

[viral marsh]

it was joke. just got ranger top-1 with dmg in fight, and share here 🙂

[wide aspen]

ah, oops, went directly over my head 😄
Regardless, improvements are still well on their way!

[native mauve]

Hey @wide aspen i just dropped from 39 to 46 place due to afk bug lost 50 points coz I was in 2 games simultaneously anyway this game or points deduction can get cancelled?

[wheat tendon]

Come on guys, let's play:

[tropic forge]

Please nerf this corner meta trash build. Game is boring asf.
Everybody doing copy paste no brain builds is unreal.

[ashen mango]

Wtf was this Blazenite @eager portal 🤣

[eager portal]

amazing))

[wide aspen]

I'll be the bearer of bad news and say that, most probably, there's nothing we can do about it. It is unfortunate that this happened, it is a high priority for us to significantly reduce the amount of these issues, but I am pretty sure we can't modify points.
Cancelling the game would be even worse, as that would affect other players that did play the match fairly. Sorry for that.

Make sure to report the issue as that helps us a lot in fixing it faster.

[viral marsh]

just don't cancel search for game. never. probably help.

sometimes i stay at 8/8 for 20-30 sec then game start

[wide aspen]

I have recently created some Comp Ideas that people can follow along. You can find there some comps that do not require you to play on the corner and are still strong and can definitely win against corner players!

A big example is the fighters comp that is one of the strongest one at the moment. If uncontested, you can win against most corner comps with it.

7 Earth comp is also really strong and is not played on a corner. It might have trouble getting you to top2, but it should easily get you to top4.

There's also the Air Comp that is solid and is not focused on corners, and is a good counter to the fighters.

Lastly, there's the 5bulwarks 4 empaths comp where you put your units wherever on the board, and it does wonders against corners comps as you win by attrition.

Have fun trying them out!

[mighty tulip]

Getting that 8/8 always make me anxious.

[dark scaffold]

this is a new display thingy, but it actually a good indicator, the problem was not showing you this before

[dark scaffold]

how long you are in this view?

[sinful hornet]

why is it a thing?

like why are you at 8/8 instead of loading screen

[viral marsh]

it's total search time. game start

[mighty tulip]

I wait 5 secs and then restart the game and reconnect. I don't trust it 😅

[dark scaffold]

I do not know the details, maybe the match has to be "created" first on the server, you are informed we got all the users and now we starting with session creation

[sinful hornet]

you should never cancel a queue that close to filling that's how u get the free 8ths

[dark scaffold]

please wait for loading tho

[mighty tulip]

I've waited longer before, up to a minute. Sometimes the game loads and sometimes it doesn't. I don't like risking it. Getting an 8th would cost me a tonne of elo 😬

[sinful hornet]

but that's the thing, if u cancel and it starts u got the 8th for free it doesn't give u a reconnect

[native mauve]

Did the game start eventually?

[viral marsh]

i get 8/8 then whait 20-30 sec and game start

[native mauve]

Yeah that's sucks dropping 7 places when we're all competing so hard...love the game keep working guys appreciate

[native mauve]

Yeah this bug was different i waited like 3 minutes and it changed from 8/8 to loading

Then loaded for like 3 minutes i knew i would miss like 3 rounds so I quit next time i will wait

[sinful hornet]

no when it loads a long time it's not u

u just have to actually wait

[native mauve]

Okay will do next time

[carmine obsidian]

another bug, the screen went grey and I couldn't do anything, but I was alive and the fight continued ☹️

[dark scaffold]

this one we have reported 🫡

[turbid osprey]

@wide aspen @topaz lake I know its been brought to your attention already but i have to ask again because it totally ruining the game right now and theres an ongoing competition to qualify for the tournament

Can you please revert your typo on adaptive reflection to 12s when you have 1 minute of spare time? 🙏

Its basically auto win for the people that get it even with a team worth of 6th place right now

[viral marsh]

also around auto win. need change chance for legendary augment. if you get 1 - chance get 2nd 0, or low.

but this red aug start work from start of combat. and adaptive if change back to 12 second - your unit probably die before it start work

[turbid osprey]

yea blight fire is also busted but not absolute game breaking like adaptive since it got typo

[viral marsh]

not agree. blight stronger

[turbid osprey]

with the 2s adaptive or when its 12?

[viral marsh]

dothen mater. to made adaptive strong not enough just get it.
to made blight strongest - you should just pick it

[sinful hornet]

i don't get it, adaptive is about 30 dmg per second, how is that wrapping games?

[viral marsh]

sometimes, if you stack it with some other aug, put in right unit, use right comp - this doing more dmg.
but you still have to do much things to made it work for 100%

[sinful hornet]

it's basically like having 2 thorn augments

[viral marsh]

and this blight fire - just pick it, put in unit who not die in 10 second, and it's fire everything around for 4%

both this augs not give you 100% win. you still can kill opponent team/can die with them.
but it's also much other different legendary augs which strong.

[hot pond]

That adaptive reflection augment is such a bs honestly. And people even can get 2 of them what a joke

[viral marsh]

this seems like more joke?

probably this titanor beat 2 adaptive.

[turbid osprey]

its earth synergy

adaptive won

[viral marsh]

and what about clumsy legendary? if you play air and your opponent get it, you can just alt+f4

[viral marsh]

it's screen from 3rd place, or you use other?

[hot pond]

Does being immune remove clumsy from your unit?

[viral marsh]

not sure, just know that with 1 legendary which spread clumsy you destroy air.

[turbid osprey]

from 3rd place but slickz won

[viral marsh]

probably coz this? xD

[sinful hornet]

i mean earth didn't 3 star any 1 cost why would it win

and titanor with those items isn't doing much either

[viral marsh]

7 earth damage back is high. i think with this +60 mitigation on titanor, they all die from him

[hot pond]

Air always was a cheesy coin flip team imo. Rely on others not getting lucky to find clumsy augment

[viral marsh]

not everyone pick it, as well air depend of how much more people play this build.

you get get top-1. or you both got top-6-7

[hot pond]

Well, air is easily hittable to 6 though. Nature with 9 cant even be reached without nature chip. Not enough units

[hot pond]

Yep, basically coin flip team as mentioned

[viral marsh]

9 nature is weak. they do dmg out of full hp. most of time 8/9 units on full hp, and only 1-3 lose hp, so this synergy work strange.

[hot pond]

I will have to try out that blight fire augment when I see it. Havent really tried that

[ashen mango]

What tournament?

[turbid osprey]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ashen mango]

Isn't it like other gauntlet grinders where you just need to play the leaderboard and be in the top to get the rewards?

I haven't heard about a tournament afterwards

[turbid osprey]

now its top 8 grinders play in a final

[tepid mirage]

It seems really difficult to get to stage 2 and 3 with some of these units, even even no one else is playing them.

[native mauve]

i think i figured out what the bug is, if you search for a game with vpn on and then turn it off while searching it messes it up thats what happened to me @wide aspen @topaz lake then u can go in 2 games at the same time and go afk

so i turned off my vpn while searching....now it wont let me find a game because i am afk in the other one and cant get back in: thats the bug for me

[sinful hornet]

i never used vpn and still had this happen

[hot pond]

32k dmg was the max in the end

[spring basin]

I made a post about the two currently broken augments. Feel free to share your thoughts on it 🙏 #1361354524660465896 message

[hot pond]

Way to go team 👏

[violet summit]

there you go

[trim wren]

Gm illuvium!

[ivory rune]

really beginging to think I have a personal block on my chances of getting the Illuvials I need in arena

[hot pond]

For me it’s mostly the weapons 🤣

[dark scaffold]

you good now?

[native mauve]

yeah so i realized that when i turn my vpn of while searching it afks me then i cant find a game until it finishes sometimes...yeah @dark scaffold all good i can find games now thanks expensive lesson lol

[dark scaffold]

I wish we could cover all edge cases and handle VPN users better, but everything is very new and stuff like this may be worked on in the future, for now, please do not use any VPN (for personal safety as well, you routing all your data thru some random servers)

[ivory rune]

I really need to talk to a dev!

I dont like to accuse people.... escially in public... so please come talk to me Devs

I want to see if anyone can actually win a match using my account! Bet you cant

#GotShadowBanned

[rapid zenith]

I feel that way on GG Poker!

[sinful hornet]

I've noticed this too, the team is using some AI algorithm to determine what an account should place in games, realistically the only difference between rank 1 and 1000 is that one got a way better algorithm than the other.

[ivory rune]

I feel targeted

[tepid mirage]

The difference between casual and ranked is quite extreme... I can take first on casual without even taking any damage, repeatedly... But then can barely take 6th in a ranked match. It seems quite weird. Are the casual games loaded with AI players?

[safe valve]

Yes, mostly just ai

[tepid mirage]

Bummer. Thanks SpoonMan

[sinful hornet]

there is absolutely 0 way air is ok

what an absolutely cancer mechanic btw

what did i miss, what charms my team here?

oh this

[oak crypt]

Probably asked before - will there be an update to the team builder so we can see the illuvial stats (like the chart - not numerical stats, which can be seen already) in the future?

(or do individual stats not matter in Arena .. ie.. all illuvials of the same type use the same stats)?

[west plume]

They matter in Levithan,rewards for that will kick off in a month or so

[oak crypt]

ah, but for other modes, have a really bad stat'd illuvial vs a perfect one doesn't matter?

[west plume]

Yeah those have all the same stats

[oak crypt]

Thank you so much!

[eager portal]

@spring basin @haughty lintel GG

[turbid osprey]

You can find augments pinned in the community doc

[spring basin]

gg

[languid sparrow]

Thanks you Patate, just need to find good quality image now.

[frozen tartan]

https://x.com/Anubi94x/status/1901286300436631611

https://x.com/Anubi94x/status/1901285710360908040

Anubis 94 (@Anubi94x) on X

Illuvium's New Augments: Game-Changing Upgrades! 🔥
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X · Mar 16, 2025, 2:55 PM

Anubis 94 (@Anubi94x) on X

Illuvium's New Augments: Game-Changing Upgrades! 🔥
#TFT #TeamfightTactics #TFTGuide #TFTMeta #TFTSet13
@illuviumio @Immutable @DickKingz @KieranWarwick
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X · Mar 16, 2025, 2:53 PM

[languid sparrow]

Not sure there is image of each augment here, only summary on an image

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/кот-привет-милые-котики-gif-15532174354292713628

[languid sparrow]

Winnie is loving cat a lot 🤣

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/levitate-gif-9092190583054861762

[tawdry sinew]

It's truly pathetic that the top player on the LB is still abusing his drone against hobby players... As if you really need that, the only thing it shows is your personality... or lack of...

[languid sparrow]

Yeah, somepeople don't bother about the way they reach their objective what matter for them is the result, this apply to life has well....

[tawdry sinew]

That's the thing though, it made 0 difference. It's just a pure A-hole behaviour for the heck of it... a shining example of a champion...

[worldly token]

I have to say it happens to me sometimes on accident. When clicking illuvials to check something I sometimes move my drone to the point, but I agree it is really annoying

[turbid osprey]

yea me too my drone is always in my way or unfortunately the opponents way

[tawdry sinew]

Well, I have seen several people complaining about it, hopefully the devs will get rid of this as the only apparent use case is for pissing people off, whether by accident or not.

[spring basin]

If you're referring to me, I haven't once abused it on purpose. But you're right about one thing: How we behave toward others shows our personality pretty well 🙏

[haughty lintel]

Gg bro

[tawdry sinew]

Yes, I was. But if you say it was not on purpose I believe you and I'm happy to take back my words. It sure looked like it was deliberate from my point of view as your big ass drone was sitting directly on top of my corner comp, blocking my way from rearranging my team and it has not moved from that position during the whole setup time. And if this can happen purely by accident then it's another reason to get rid if this "feature" by the team.

[violet summit]

win 1 match, get 15 points, get one 5th lose 15 points
its like you're forced to be top4 or you'll lose elo

and the lobby was strong... weird system

[languid sparrow]

👀 Hey Rangers! Would be nice if you guys could **Screenshot the images of the DroneChips and Augments, i'm collecting some data in order to build something for the Arena community so let's go team ping you your SS please! 👀

[violet summit]

How can Grilla one shot the furthest psion in the corner with its omega?

is that supposed to be a counter play?

funny thing, 3 colossus, 2 verdant & grilla can't even reach the corner but kills the unit anyway

[supple beacon]

Yeah this is annoying

[supple epoch]

5/8 rank

[languid sparrow]

On my way! +1

[violet summit]

I'm pretty sure it's a bug
I need to read the description of the omega ability, if someone can post would be nice

If the enemy can't dash to the furthest unit, It shouldn't be able to deal damage

[languid sparrow]

Are you refering to Augment or an illuvial ?

[violet summit]

Illuvial

[languid sparrow]

Which one ?

Got the database right in front of me!

[violet summit]

2nd game that a grilla is one shooting my psions in the backline

Literally, one omega, one kill

And he is not reaching them, it's blocked by other units

I don't remember seeing this before

[languid sparrow]

Stage1: Lesser Grilla Blinks to the lowest Physical Resist enemy, dealing **450 () Physical Damage **and leaving behind a __Mud statue __with __150 Health __which Taunts enemies in 20-hexes for 1 seconds.

Stage2: Greater Grilla Blinks to the lowest Physical Resist enemy, dealing 650 () Physical Damage and leaving behind a Mud statue with 250 Health which Taunts enemies in 20-hexes for 1 seconds.

Stage3: Exalted Grilla Blinks to the lowest Physical Resist enemy, dealing **950 () Physical Damage **and leaving behind a Mud statue with __400 Health __which Taunts enemies in 20-hexes for 1 seconds.

[violet summit]

Ok, it makes sense but, should it deal damage if he doesn't reach the lowest physical resist enemy?

[languid sparrow]

950 is hurting specially if it's auto executing right after that Omega ability if predator was active

[violet summit]

Predator was not active, he had good augments, but not even legendary ones

[languid sparrow]

Are you rerrefing to this one from 1st player ?

Ho game started

[violet summit]

My point is, he tries to blink to the lowest enemy, what happens if he doesn't reach him? He still deals damage to that unit?

Yes

If this is supposed to happen then I'll have a new counter play for corner comps

[supple beacon]

I think he has always done this, but before he could not one shot so it did not matter.

[uncut comet]

yeah before the damage wasnt that high

but they always switch things around without making patch announcements , maybe they did something with omega

[tepid mirage]

Watching four souped up rogues beating on a twine with no augments for the entire fight, and not even killing him doesn't seem like a good time.

[hybrid lodge]

2

[west quartz]

getting +4 on a top 3 seems a bit cheap tbh

[wide aspen]

The base for 3rd place is +10. If it was reduced as much as to +4, then it means you faced players of way lower skill than yours (probably around 1200 rating).

[sinful hornet]

grilla's ult should just be changed from lowest resist to something like furthest so there's some counter play, or the dmg should be tuned to match prebig patch cuz he didn't used to just oneshot with an ult

[worldly token]

furthest would be too harsh. Just put 2 tanks on the sides and grilla does not do anything anymore

[sinful hornet]

it still oneshots, the ult is not blocked by space

it always goes on the carry

[worldly token]

But it will not oneshot tanks

[sinful hornet]

but it doesn't hit tanks

it hits the carry

[worn tree]

Yes, leaning towards the second. Reduce Omega Damage and make up for that loss with AD and/or fake copy health.

[worldly token]

What I mean is the change to furthest would make him useless

I think weakening him is probably the better way to go.

[sinful hornet]

yea i wouldn't mind that either, but right now im not joking when i say he's actually 1v4ing an octius synalph fernite phyriox backline

[worn tree]

Targeting is fine. Maine issue is that it can one shot carries. That omega is a deception/reposition omega, not a instakill omega.

[worn tree]

S3 is ballistic true.

[sinful hornet]

also can you look into phyri line, it feels so weak i can't even tell if its bugged on omega or not

[worldly token]

yeah very true. It can go hard with the right augments, but you really have to work to make it work

[bronze spire]

im not sure if its good to always get rid of things like this, sounds like a cool moment

[sinful hornet]

what do you mean, it's 9 gold deleting 50 with no counterplay

when the 15 gold rhamphite would ult the air

[bronze spire]

10 games today not seen it in a winning team. I counter it with getting rid of ranger amor making it lowest

but also get your point about it being only 9 cost

[sinful hornet]

i mean it's hard to win cuz u need to be completely uncontested and also highroll and grilla's only really a nightmare to psyons

also when the seeforus was the main carry it was more counterplayable

in general to me it feels that the game has a lot more feel bad moments for the opponent with whatever you play than it does feel good moments for the player winning

it happens with basically every comp

[bronze spire]

every feel good moment is kind of an equally feel bad moment for somone else

go look at all the TFT shorts

[sinful hornet]

no it's not true, more that there's no feel goods

[bronze spire]

how many years in and they seem to make those moments even more common

[bronze spire]

they grill a didnt make that person feel good?

[sinful hornet]

did it? it doesn't make me, i just go nice i win cuz this unit's broken, same on the fighters patch i didn't feel good winning there was no big asol ult or a draven going crazy like u get in tft

it's actual just stats here

[bronze spire]

makes me happy, some of my best memories from 1v1 is grilla

only works with right augs and may not win but its fun

[sinful hornet]

if it's just subjective to me than it's fine that'd be good

[viral marsh]

when you play only fighters build - you don't worry about grilla

[bronze spire]

yea guess its all subjective. You might be right though. Im only suggesting we keep an open mind to things that have OP moments. Especially when the thing seemed to beat the corner psion comp thats more commonly hated

[sinful hornet]

ye grilla's only broken into psyons

but it's still not something i imagine is intended

[viral marsh]

grilla with aug for steal 45 energy+something for omega. what will happend with psion team? xD

[bronze spire]

true than yea if not intended but if it is i think its cool

[sinful hornet]

it's just a lot of higher tier units are worse than the low costs, we have grilla-vermilliare-rhamphite where rhamphite's the worst by far, we have all the expensive psyons who just die to anything before they can kill them, the 3 cost tanks are the best ones, the 1 cost tanks tho are pretty paper, fighters kinda have the gold working properly

fundementally at least the game seems pretty fine, just some numbers tuning could improve it a bunch, before the items and carousel changes

[worn tree]

I am OOO for the entirety of April. Edi or Meko can help with that.

[worldly token]

6/8 already 15 mins in. Haven't waited that long for quite some time 😄

[sinful hornet]

i don't think air is broken anymore, i was just playing psyons and everything's broken when u do that

[viral marsh]

tsunami and axodon so weak. even with synergy of 4.

someone know results from day-1 grinding event? i don't see Quants post it

[worldly token]

did psion lynx get a debuff?

[twilit storm]

@viral marsh as soon as i have the new API key I will.

this qualify last more then the previous Grinders so we are fine (it ends Thursday 23:59 UTC)

[sinful hornet]

btw the matchamking thing in game is just fucked in another way, now in top 3 you have 1 player never face ghost 6 rounds in a row

[tropic forge]

What happened to me is that you actually face the ghost, but the game counts as if not.

[languid sparrow]

No augments or droneChip ss players of arena ?

... ok

[sinful hornet]

bro they're all public in the doc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/edit?gid=1046061526#gid=1046061526

[languid sparrow]

Yes but... nmv

[worldly token]

I underbit your 4 points. Soon we are at 1 for 3 place

[violet summit]

See my post yesterday
It was a joke, 2 games in a row that grilla destroyed my corner comp with one shot

[worldly token]

Thinking about preparing for leviathan. How do I go forward? Is it only the highest level illuvial of each kind is taken into account? So I need to get rid of bad high level illuvials and train the ones with good stats?
Are holo etc also only taken into account if the holo is the highest level?

Means I need to decide if I want a holo on the field with (perhaps) bad stats and the actual good illuvial?

[viral marsh]

1st illuvial appear at store - your highest lvl. so if you have holo highest - you will see him

[worldly token]

hmm okay.. then I need to get rid of a couple holos that I trained earlier when playing overworld

[viral marsh]

probably high lvl will be better that perfect stats. better count it.
each lvl - give 0.4% for each stat.
and each trait give +5%

[sinful hornet]

u want lynx s1 s2 and T1s s1 s2 at lvl 60

that's probably highest prio

[viral marsh]

and how you win late game?

[sinful hornet]

u need others lvl 60 too

[viral marsh]

lynx s1>s2

[sinful hornet]

but if u don't have those u just dont get to late game

basically this game mode is unplayable without almost every unit

s1 and 2

[viral marsh]

you can play 1 strat. so need around 10-20 units

[worldly token]

it takes forever to get stuff to level 60 though

[sinful hornet]

ye it's a nightmare

[worldly token]

maybe thats what I am shooting for (at least in the beginning)

[ashen mango]

What comp will you choose?

[turbid osprey]

There will be a favorite system for us to over ride the highest lvl being chosen 1st if we want to

No need to get rid of anything

[worldly token]

My currently best shot would be mud. I have some very good numbers on some of the apes

With greater monkier sitting at tpi 97 for example

[hot pond]

Dude the weapons are the biggest shit of this game. I rolled the entire match for a weapon and didnt get it until the very end

[worldly token]

Yeah I cannot wait for the new system and bonding coming back

[hot pond]

For sure! Its gonna be so much better than this frustrating RNG

[viral marsh]

you think it's good idea use my magic against me? @sinful hornet

[sinful hornet]

i didn't want to my shops only gave me that

[viral marsh]

yes yes. and wonderful. 1 in 1 you got everything

[sinful hornet]

i saw no fighters whole game

[viral marsh]

you start pick units from lvl7.

[sinful hornet]

i had phyri lvl 4

[viral marsh]

and right which in this build

[sinful hornet]

fern hit lvl 7

well i copied ur build cuz everythign i tried with phyri sucked

[viral marsh]

and got 4th place and take me with you for 2nd

[sinful hornet]

ye i guess phyri with no legendary item still shit

[viral marsh]

take phyri at lvl4 = mistake

[ashen mango]

Mud with what other units?

I assume that you're free to play a lot of builds around mud

[worldly token]

I am currently checking my arsenal 😄 maybe going full on earth as my malura line is also not bad. could also throw in magma, but thats kinda meh in current meta - maybe with the new weapon system more relevant

[ivory rune]

I really want confirmation that Im not being shadow banned in Arena please... because It sure feels like it

[zenith mortar]

Why would you be shadow banned

[zenith mortar]

We haven’t ever shadow banned anyone to my knowledge

[ashen mango]

What do you mean?

[ashen mango]

😂

[zenith mortar]

Why choose 3 noob guilds though?

[west plume]

If Rich is shadow banning anyone it would be me,and so far iam waaaaaaaaaay ahead of him on the leaderboard.

Like way ahead

Because of skill

[noble hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-joey-friends-gasp-shook-gif-12260771

[zenith mortar]

Cope

[zenith mortar]

Except torial

She not noob

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/excuse-me-james-franco-gif-9850982

[noble hinge]

That was a sweet thing to say....
Until you put on the laughing Tiktaalik.

[sharp escarp]

Hi guys, where can I see the gauntlet leaderboard - Gauntlet Grinders IV
:
Gauntlet Grinders IV

[sinful hornet]

alt f4 into relog gave me reconnect into a game

[mighty tulip]

@west plume

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-snap-inevitable-marvel-avengers-endgame-gif-14599588

[west plume]

This is an obvious Photoshop job,Nice try.

[rapid zenith]

Are weapons supposed to disappear when you swap them out, or is that bug? Keeps happening, I never managed to notice if I'm getting refunded the coin for it though.

[sinful hornet]

@viral marsh why do u go for geyser instead of just mythic weapon and extra tank unit?

[viral marsh]

coz game random

don't play this build. it's hard. just go fighter

[sinful hornet]

i played it i like it

but i like having fernite in

[rancid raptor]

hi everyone, what do you guys think about changing the shape of the arena into a pentagon and make it slightly bigger?
i think it will prevent cornering strats and make movement speed more imactful.
it also aligns perfectly with the space illuvials take

sorry hexagon

[sinful hornet]

hexagons have more corners

[ashen mango]

I wonder how it would look like

[rancid raptor]

wider corners

[sinful hornet]

i geniunely don't understand why they don't copy the tft board functionality 1:1

[rancid raptor]

from an ocd point of view, gorgeous given that the arena itself is tiny hexagons

[rancid raptor]

tft units ocupy squares though

[sinful hornet]

yea

it was already great it didnt need reinventing

[rancid raptor]

im getting 1 less gold per round

its 1st round, i save 10 gold. Win and get 6 instead of 7

[summer frigate]

When is the snapshot going to be taken ?

[west musk]

Rather than a stat 1200 start elo and decay I think it should start at ZERO and you work your way up to tiers... once you make it to a particular tier you can't fall back down. Would feel a lot better than a system where you can fall way down with climbing back up very difficult if not impossible.

this is the system that Clash Royale employs and works great. Lets newbies match with newbies, mid with mid and experienced players with like.

And if there's concern about smurfing I think verifying users is not a bad idea also.

[sinful hornet]

there's not enough players is the main reason, the 1200 is pretty standard start in basically every elo ladder

[violet summit]

@mighty tulip the game didn't want me to win
rolled 100 gold for Ophisto to get invoker and nothing, only found 8 in the entire game

GG anyways

@wide aspen @worn tree please make phyri (line) great again
it feels like a tier 0 unit right now

[sinful hornet]

i've noticed phyri is actually just insanely item dependent, u absolutely need something like the cleave or the pierce+as legendary items on it

[violet summit]

I even tried with 3 arcanite, and the dmg is still low compared with what it used to be

it doesn't feel like a tier 4 unit, specially at stage 3

scoriox used to nuke corner comps with ease

[sinful hornet]

yes, it needs to have something like exactly 1 out of 1-3 items in the game

it's still not as good as it was pre big patch even with that tho

i don't really understand why the 2% attack speed stacking per attack feels so bad currently on anything, even in long fights

[supple beacon]

@twilit storm Can we see current leaderboard?

[twilit storm]

no, devs need to refresh the API key, I can t see match history atm.

[ivory rune]

noob guilds? those are the ONLY guilds! lol

[zenith mortar]

there is more

im in a guild of my own

DICKS GUILD

and then dont forget JPN

but they noob

and syndicate noob

and GG

[ashen mango]

Scoriox is good imo

[ebon aspen]

Someone wants smoke 😂

[ashen mango]

Phyriox is fine too

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-doka-doka-illuvial-ilv-gif-17933073630768034327

[rancid raptor]

game feels better and better as time passes. Only thing that annoys me right now is corner strats. Why even have rogues when you cant access an illuvial until its the last one standing

[zenith mortar]

i tested carasouels today

hrrrnnnggg

well kinda

lol

it was bugged for me but worked for jetski

[twilit storm]

@zenith mortar tell me moar

[zenith mortar]

its promising how close it is

[rancid raptor]

im afraid we need proof

[zenith mortar]

oh and other cool things like round loot

maybe i can leak more on podcast

[fallen vortex]

Yeah Kieran talked to the council about this. A lot of it is under review it seems

I am excited for the new augments system

[twilit storm]

wanna see the weapons rework

[rancid raptor]

im excited for bonding again

[twilit storm]

that and the bonding will make the game much much better

[west musk]

Question about upcoming tpi

So if max on all 6 stats = 100 tpi then...

What if it's a unit that benefits from health and resistance?

If Health and resistance were max and Omega and attack damage lower then wouldn't that actually be a better illuvial?

Or will it be a linear stat and not relational?

[west quartz]

in case anyone is wondering, grilla with invoker spat is VERY fun to watch

especially with arcane conduit, 4 muds and predator

fun to see it oneshoot goliants

[rancid raptor]

has anyone tried this on vanguard?

seems fun

lul

[hardy minnow]

7/8

[rancid raptor]

ok this is dumb xD

[fallen vortex]

It is not linear. The 6 stats still have weightings. But there is no world where an Illuvial with all max stats vs an Illuvial with only some is better (ignoring movespeed).

[worldly token]

That sounds like an insane combo 😁 it definately should do crazy stuff at that point

[west quartz]

480 OP with 3 invokers

Fun Times 😂

[hot pond]

I must say dualeph is very lackluster and disappointing. I had him with full OP augments including legendary augments but he did less than the psion lynx

[safe valve]

Psion lynx too strong

[worldly token]

cannot join arena?

[summer frigate]

oh no, new bug. stuck here

[hot pond]

Fuck me too

Are we all stuck afk there?

[summer frigate]

idk what to do lol

should we cancel?

[hot pond]

idk cant join back

[hoary spindle]

i backed out and tried to "reconnect". Didnt work... lol

[summer frigate]

did you hit cancel?

[worldly token]

I canceled and now cannot join anymore

[summer frigate]

oh no

so this is a lost

[worldly token]

code 400 matchmaking error

[summer frigate]

fuck

[hot pond]

Man if i lose like 50 points now im gonna rage

[summer frigate]

bro

thats 5 hours of gameplay

[hot pond]

exactly

whole day for nothing

[worldly token]

is the game just playing without us being in? then you could get like 4th or so xD

[hot pond]

maybe some got in and farm us

[summer frigate]

fuck

[hot pond]

i got in

restarted the game 5 times or so

[summer frigate]

you guys cayoure not in the game

[hot pond]

it was still first round

[worldly token]

try again, i am in

[hot pond]

2 people are afk apparently

[sinful hornet]

i had this, i alt f4ed spammed reconnect it connects u when the game starts

[frank moon]

@sinful hornet gg! Just wondering: were you blocking the earth hammer?

[sinful hornet]

no

[hot pond]

what a literal bs game

[summer frigate]

why?

[hot pond]

I needed to roll whole game for weapons and didnt get. Also no ador and cling for the rest of game

[summer frigate]

Yeah, I couldn't find cling and I had the verdant weapon

[worldly token]

6/8 come join

am in queue for 30 mins now

[frank moon]

its probably bugged, exit and re enter

[worldly token]

yeah probably. Still says 6/8 now though 😄

[frank moon]

I try to reboot after every game so I don't scream at the devs too often

I'm also considering myself just a little bit unlucky. I am down 99% on my ILV investment and miss 99% odds on rerolling for weapons all day every day

[worldly token]

I share both points with you xD although weapons is the same for everyone

[hot pond]

Same. I had the option to find the Templar weapon but didn’t see that one either

[hot pond]

I start doing that too

[frank moon]

no guarantees though, I'm rebooting mid game right now!

[hot pond]

always scared at this point

[fallen vortex]

I haven't had a chance to try the g patch. What's it like?

The buffs/nerfs looked solid on paper

[ashen mango]

More diverse teams but mostly corners and fighters
Nature, air and earth heavy teams are more often used
Vertical rogues are still weak

[fallen vortex]

Unless Rogues have tools to break corners, they will always suck

And I don't see that ever happening 😛

[ashen mango]

They have been strong in the past even against corner, I could see that happening over again

[ashen mango]

Unless you have insider information and you know that they will make vertical rogues weak forever 👀

[fallen vortex]

Nah council doesn't discuss balance or anything

I just think rogues are a weird concept personally

they are the 'assassin' class. But an 'assassin' typically gets behind an opponent and eliminates them quickly and falls off afterwards. Most of the rogues have been designed with this in mind, but they can't actually get behind anything and so they r dumb

[tropic forge]

It's really easy to give rogues a role without changing the board shape. We could simply define a thin line in the back of every player's board as "The Rogue´s line"...an horizontal space with 1 unit capacity , the player can´t put units, but rogues of enemy player could blink to.
It will force those corners strats to defend the front and the backline, make em weaker and so rogues more useful.

Everything which role is to blink there in the back, can be placed on that thin line, for back attacking. Of course they can be attacked ,but the sole fact of starting with something attacking according with the class logic would be more realistic. I´d love to see that happening

[frank moon]

it's been years and we still have more game devs than actual players

[spring basin]

Heeey @zenith mortar Do you know what's going on with the API key? We have an ongoing tournament at the moment, but we can't track it because the key needs to be renewed 🙏

[dark scaffold]

we are waiting for dev team to provide us with one, once we have it, we will update it right away 🙏 should be coming today

[turbid osprey]

@noble radish Thank you for adjusting the TPI following community sentiment 🙏

The blog post says that with the new system "Unit B with near-perfect Arena stats (one 4/5, total 29/30) is equivalent to TPI 98%

This statement confuses me as the first part makes me think its just linear and 1 stat = ~3% TPI but then the example of 29/30 is 98% so is there still weights to different stats depending on the illuvial's nature?

[noble radish]

There are still weights. It’s just an example without a lot of details.

It’s not saying ANY time it has one stat as a 4.

For example if the first stat is 4, you’ll be much worse than 98%

because that’s the most valuable.

[turbid osprey]

Ok thats awesome, weve got ourselves a real arena power index now!

Im really happy about this one

[frank moon]

so this titanor is certainly going down in TPI?

happy I didn't go too crazy on current TPI but RIP to people (coming back) that did

[turbid osprey]

My queue was on 6/8 for like 5-10 minutes, i canceled and re queued instantly but its now 3/8

Am i currently afk in anyones game?

[gaunt hull]

WhisperR and CoolGuy no.1

Bot Era

[tropic forge]

Grats! I couldnt find 3 ferns in a single game... imagine that... that bird is near extinction...

[viral marsh]

can't see you in LB. where you?

[gaunt hull]

just kidding finally won a game against fox

[gaunt hull]

around 30ish

[viral marsh]

it's hard play, when you got contested in build about which yestarday noone know

[gaunt hull]

i just got lucky

we fought 3x today i only won once haha

[tropic forge]

Last game u stuck ur Forus , and i was sooo dumb i throwed my Loulura that way and he started arrasing XD

[gaunt hull]

yeah thats why u notice i move my jotun to clear up some space haha

[tropic forge]

I was lookiiing for that Fern for Templar 3, but never came

[gaunt hull]

I Hoarded it sry

but i was panicking

[viral marsh]

sometimes, after people eliminated, i still can't find units they have. even if i roll 140 gold for last unit, which noone have from alive people

[gaunt hull]

lvl 8 already still no jokkul

[gaunt hull]

do you do livestream? im really amazed on how you get ador and geyser stage 3 most of the games

i tried it but meh i die before i go stage 3

[viral marsh]

no. but i can made coaching session for you, if interested.

[gaunt hull]

this was frustrating

[tropic forge]

uff, the big 4... RIP. XD

[gaunt hull]

thats the game i was so amazed tier 4 and 5 stage 3.

[gaunt hull]

I don't really have the funds for such sessions. But thank you so much for the offer! You are one of the best if not the best. I always notice you don't do the same teams every game.

[tropic forge]

I try different fighters templar - frost empath compositions , but i´m really afraid into playing those corner psion strats myself because i suck at it XD. I guess when u know all the possible ways to dominate the game, u notice real quick what build to go once u have a really early game powerful unit/aug/weapon of that build.

and yeah, fox is indeed one of the fierce players in the game. I don´t really know what build he´s gonna do so i always hover over his profile to see what he´s doing 🤣

I spy on him 😎

[gaunt hull]

where can we check on how many games we did this week?

i really lost count i dont know if I did 15.

[tropic forge]

U know, back when Overworld was the Goat, i hated arena soo much... don´t really know why.
I started playing last week from 0, it was a pain to learn , i lost like a lot, but now i´m a freaking addict XD. I can´t stop playing for some reason
it´s kinda hard to get into it but when u know how to play is super addictive tbh.

[tropic forge]

I guess there´s no way to see the week games , at least that i know.

[worldly remnant]

man survived at 1 hp hahaha

[twilit storm]

Agree, @viral marsh is the only one who has the balls to try many comps and still finish top 2/3. He s a big brain for sure.

[viral marsh]

not only me. Anon also play different comp, when was around us 🙂

[twilit storm]

True

[viral marsh]

and i'm lose hard sometimes, when test. 2 days ago i lose 150. then all day climb back

[twilit storm]

Yeah but doing this you are always one step ahead wen meta shifts

[gloomy mural]

xD

[noble radish]

TPI was never advertised as a perfect indicator or power in Arena (nor is it now, technically). Any time we’ve communicated it has been to say it’s an approximation.

Now it’s a much better approximation for Arena, but it’s still subjective. The weights are arbitrary and aren’t perfect for any illuvials, let alone every one.

If you want to know the power of an Illuvial in Arena you must always look at the traits (except if it’s a zero or 100%)

[trim wren]

GM All! Lets goo to the top. Good luck with the raffle tomorrow! Wish you all luck

[viral marsh]

@sinful hornet how your games today? meta change, or everyone around learn how play well?

[sinful hornet]

i only played like 4, same meta

[viral marsh]

-40 +7 so painful

[sinful hornet]

but the game is just so luck dependent i think unless there's a undiscovered great comp

[jolly whale]

Is the endless gauntlet que bug back?

[ember sail]

AR was the team I was using — it was going so well, but now I can't seem to get 1st place anymore. I can only hold on to 2nd at best. I think it's because I was the only one using the build before; every time more people start using it, it gets harder to dominate. I’m not sure if they nerfed it in the meantime, but it feels way weaker now. It used to go toe-to-toe with Malura and Slash 3.

The AR team used to feel almost immortal with all that evasion, but now I see them going down pretty easily. I'm wondering if it's because Hyper counters Nature.

[sinful hornet]

it's just that augments are just so different in power level it comes down a lot to them

[ember sail]

Yeah, there's also that — I don’t really have specific augments set up for a particular build. Sometimes I’m just missing one or two anyway. I’m always checking out other people’s augments to see if there’s anything different, but so far nothing really stands out. 😂 Fox even hides his drone so people can’t see what augments he’s using lol

[frank moon]

he is the best

[sinful hornet]

the drone augments are easy there's about 4 that u pick and the rest that u dont

[viral marsh]

for every person who put his drone in the middle of fight and don't let looking how everything going, reserved special place, you know where.

[viral marsh]

i never say that, but ty, if it's not sarcastic.

[gloomy mural]

slickz is the best

[ashen mango]

People are probably picking up true sight and clumsy items more often now

[ember sail]

That's a good observation, I'll pay more attention to those details.

[supple epoch]

4/8 rank

[sinful hornet]

2 and 3 cam lets u see

[spring basin]

@topaz lake Is a weapon fix planned for the next patch? Having something so important rely on bugged RNG that isn’t working properly really needs attention, even if you plan to add bonding later on. I’ve brought this up more times than I can count, and honestly, it’s driving me mad every time I roll through 200 gold for an uncontested weapon and still can’t find it

[languid sparrow]

This mean there (no limit / not managing ) the % chance of it's so low because it's based on total possible weapons in the game 👀 formula 👀

[twilit storm]

rolled a lifetime saving for one single weapon costed me the match yesterday, it s a pain..a true pain.

Gauntlet Grinders is LIVE btw, as soon as we have access to the match history we will publish the actual leaderboard, final snapshot will be Thursday 17 Apr 23:59 UTC. The top 8 players will go straight into the final Friday 18 Apr 21:00 UTC, the remaining 12 on the best 20 dynamic ladder will go automatically on the waiting list. Be prepared to join in case a spot opens up. 60 ILV on the line.

[sinful hornet]

realistically even if they do a weapons hotfix the game is in the absolute trash in regards to agency and i don't see how they change this without either nerfing every single augment across the board and changing stats on like half the units before carousel and components

[west quartz]

We already had that issue with Arena. The problem is the feedback from normies was « the game is too hard » so they made something more accessible

If you suck you’re happy to get some lucky wins, and if the majority is in this situation well the game dev have an incentive to keep it that way for mass adoption

[sinful hornet]

they didn't make the game more accessible tho, we just don't have enough decisions in the game

[spring basin]

I do agree that agency is really low, and it's a problem with the game. But that's not an easy fix, it would take months of development. The weapon hotfix, on the other hand, would only take around 10 minutes to implement and would definitely help improve the current state of the game.

[viral marsh]

they can just add 1 thing for weapon:
if you have in your bag weapon> you have incresaed chance for next weapons, so made weapon stage 2>3 become real.
i agree - sometimes spend 100 gold and don't get weapon stage 2

[untold plover]

imo they should make weapons a thing you choose when the game begins and you upgrade it during the game, will help new players to have something to build around and think it could improve the quality of the average game and make synergies more fun

[sinful hornet]

i might be delusional tbh but for me weapons are insanely low prio in what makes the game terrible currently

as in i can see fixing that right now and making 1% difference overall

[worldly token]

How exactly are poeple chosen for the grinders? Elo change? Or top 4 places? Can you elaborate?

[twilit storm]

checked the Info And Rules?

[worldly token]

Looked at the pic searchoing for the specifics - found it, thanks!

[twilit storm]

Qualifications:
Players earn or lose points based on their performance in Ranked Gauntlet matches.
Qualification phase points calculation.
1st Place: 8 points
2nd Place: 4 points
3rd Place: 2 points
4th Place: 1 point
5th Place: -1 point
6th Place: -2 points
7th Place: -4 points
8th Place: -8 points

[worldly token]

Did not see the description below, sorry 😅

[twilit storm]

np

[sinful hornet]

u also have 0 idea how leaderboard looks like without API?

[twilit storm]

you?

[sinful hornet]

like meaning if you can see any points at all or if it's actual Clueless until API works

[tawdry sinew]

What am I missing here: I had 32 golds and the 3rd maul just came up in the shop, yet it did not let me click it, there was a pulsing red stripe at the bottom of the shop and I lost all me time trying to pick it up for nothing?

[sinful hornet]

was your inventory full? for some reason you need empty space to make a stage 2

and it also doesn't highlight it either

[twilit storm]

the key is expired, we need a new key otherwise we aren t able to check match history

[tawdry sinew]

Oh man, that could be it, never even occurred to me as it did not happen before

[sinful hornet]

yea it's just something that shouldn't be a thing

[twilit storm]

The issue can be resolved easily but not on my side.

[west quartz]

They did, it’s a tft like game, 0-5 cost, no augment bidding phase, no ranger bonding, no cost to moving units, very low cost to selling units etc

The game got much easier to pick up for newbies

[sinful hornet]

what i mean is that they didn't have more mechanics or anything and then took them out, if anything they added the drone augments but right now it's more coinflipping than agency

[west quartz]

No deck building either, and the fact that weapons are a pain to get allow less secondary synergies

[west quartz]

Exactly my point, they didn’t add stuff they removed stuff to lower the « difficulty », at the cost of a higher rng and thus lower agency

[sinful hornet]

but that's exactly it, they didn't remove anything from the initial launch

[west quartz]

But we’ve been complaining about the low agency for ages, seems hard to fix

[west quartz]

Ranger bonding, cost to displacing units, lobby of 8 etc, tons of things change

Oh do you mean since gauntlet launch ?

[sinful hornet]

yes

i don't see a single world where 1v1 illuvium can ever be not decided by coinflips, but autobattlers it's not unreacheable

[west quartz]

With the ascendant tokens they made 1v1 less coin flippy by getting rid of the whole comp change, if they added the real time view of opponent’s board it just needed balancing imo

You’d still get rng on augment bidding phases but manageable

[hot pond]

Agree here. 1v1 needed the real time movement it would have been so much better

But I still have hope that eventually 1v1 will make a return once gauntlet is at a good state

[west quartz]

so much better

would have erased the flip side rng

and at worst it would be a battle of APM which still requires skill

[valid stirrup]

@topaz lake When we gonna have a nice update ?

[topaz lake]

The next update is planned for May.

[valid stirrup]

important one ?

we get balance ?

[topaz lake]

I can't share any details, but it's pretty big. We'll also have some balance changes.

[valid stirrup]

thank you

i wish it will have the game back so i dont need to use 2 team to win =))

[topaz lake]

Missed this. We'll see what we can do about it.

[ebon aspen]

just tried 2 berserker with 2 frost 5 fighters 3 bulwarks and biggest gargabe I have seen in a while

please tell me they did not nerf berserkers 🤣

[frank moon]

I've heard pretty big for years now. Sure another month can do but I'm struggling to have fun when the basics, that were in place before, are no longer working. The shop is beyond broken and the new servers (?) seem to be raining disconnects when we have 20 people playing

[eager portal]

@sinful hornet gg

[ember sail]

I liked the daily updates, I don't know if it happens to everyone but particularly to me, when I see the points list I feel more motivated to play, these days I hardly played precisely because I didn't have a dimension if I would have a chance of being in the top 8 or not, I think this time I made a little less than 20 points.

But that wasn't the only reason, I played a lot last weekend and had to take some time to clear my head.

[twilit storm]

I liked them too, I tried..but devs are too busy and can t refresh the API keys these days.

[ember sail]

Oh I see, I didn't imagine that was the case, if there's nothing to do, be patient and play on

[bronze spire]

week 2 leaderboard finished yea?

[tawdry sinew]

Hi @topaz lake we still seem to have the bug where we get points for the wrong finishing positions. It happened to me twice today in 6 games that there were only 3 players remaining, number 4 has been eliminated the previous round yet when I lost I was position 4 on the end screen and only received points for that position (2 points twice, or 2 and 3 points, not sure). I know this has been reported by many others before, just wanted to ask if you guys are close to solving this or what can we expect? Thanks!

[hot pond]

Is there a shortcut to equip weapon/suits to ranger or is it purely drag and drop?

[sinful hornet]

no shortcut

[hot pond]

Damn, I am playing on ultra wide monitor and need to move like 2km with the thing 😄

double click to equip would be cool

[west plume]

You should split the screen and play ADR on the second half🥳

[hot pond]

I think my PC will almost explode then. Somehow the illuvidex on chrome just takes so much RAM

[west plume]

Yeah you don't want that

[topaz lake]

Hey! That will be fixed in the next patch.

[west plume]

@frozen tartan you up
For some Levithan later today?

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/unsheathing-the-sword-geralt-of-rivia-the-witcher-the-witcher3wild-hunt-weapon-at-the-ready-gif-26926247

[frozen tartan]

Hi! I'd love to. What time are we meeting in UTC?

[sinful hornet]

@ivory saddle are you still in game or did it get deleted?

[ivory saddle]

yeah its gone

[sinful hornet]

@topaz lake we just had a game get deleted from existence?

kicked me out gave me an error 1 row long i didn't think to screen it and there's no reconnect

[ivory saddle]

yep same error

[west plume]

I should be available from 15.00utc

[frozen tartan]

Alright. Let's agree on 15:30 UTC to make sure everyone has time.

I'll start getting people ready.

Hey friends!

Today at 15:30 UTC, we’re holding a training session in Leviathan mode.

Everyone is welcome! Even if you don’t have Illuvials yet, you can still participate — levels are currently disabled in this mode, only stats matter.

I’ll tag the most active Leviathan players — apologies in advance if I miss someone.

Let’s all gather right at 15:30 UTC so no one has to wait. See you there!

@zenith mortar @fringe zephyr @carmine obsidian @ashen mango @spring basin @whole heron @bronze spire @sinful hornet @topaz lake @hollow orbit

@winged fox @warped ocean @valid stirrup @wild kiln @flint lodge @safe valve @oak cloak @fiery iron @vivid stirrup @turbid osprey

@frank moon @ebon aspen @worn tree @vale zephyr @mighty tulip @gloomy mural @scarlet spindle @bitter pike @native mauve @arctic steppe

[safe valve]

Don't have Internet yet at my new place 😔

[frozen tartan]

@sharp escarp @hot pond @open ibex @dark scaffold @noble hinge @torpid trellis @weary sinew @uncut comet @fallen vortex @edgy bough

[open ibex]

Level disable? That is weird...

[frozen tartan]

I'm tired of tagging everyone who, in my opinion, is somehow connected to Leviathan.

I’ve surely forgotten many people, since I was going off memory and checking who’s online in Discord.

Call your friends, make announcements in your guilds.

I suggest we turn this into a bloodbath.

[dark scaffold]

can wait to brag with my 2 dark holos

[frozen tartan]

As of now, here’s the situation:
Levels are visible but don’t give any advantage.
Stats are visible and do give an advantage.

This is a lite version of Leviathan.

Waiting for a full Leviathan fix might take a long time.
So I suggest we warm up our Illuvials today.

[frozen tartan]

You're on the list.

[frozen tartan]

@uneven harbor @primal flax @fluid raptor @hardy scroll @cobalt tendon @ebon flume @tulip tiger @lime cloak @pseudo phoenix @lean ivy

[safe valve]

Just checked if everything is fine after moving... I guess Internet is my smaller Problem

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/monitor-chuck-monitor-throw-gif-20319546

[frozen tartan]

Don’t worry, my friend.

At least you’re a whale in Leviathan.

[safe valve]

Meanwhile probably a shrimp with my low Levels 😄

[frozen tartan]

Don't sell yourself short.
I’ve checked the levels and stats of every top Leviathan player.
You’ve got one of the most powerful decks out there.

I like how ChatGPT translated that common expression —
"Don't sell yourself short."

But honestly, it sounds kinda off. Maybe even a bit suggestive.
In any case, it's a pretty rough translation.

[safe valve]

Sure you checked them all?
Many good Atlas peeps out there

[frozen tartan]

I’ve checked everyone. Absolutely.

I’m not saying you have the most upgraded deck.

I’m saying it’s one of the best.

In my opinion, there are currently 0 ready-made decks for Leviathan.

And that’s great, because the ultimate goal should be very challenging.

The most serious deck is with Whity, no competition.

But there are also a lot of areas for growth there.

[flint lodge]

I will soon up my iluvs too)

I think i will up and than team should remove lvl from levi)))

[frozen tartan]

I’m not arguing. It’s quite possible.

I’m talking about what’s happening right now.

Right now, 0 players are ready for Leviathan.

All top decks have plenty of flaws.

But that’s how it should be.

Leviathan needs to be hardcore.

If reaching level 30/30 and 60 was easy, it would be a pathetic copy of Ranked.

[flint lodge]

yeap it should be hard

some games you need years for late contant and a lot of money

in web2 and web3

[frozen tartan]

That’s how it should be.

Leviathan is hardcore, big money/life in Overworld, training.

No mercy.

Of course, it’s already been quite spoiled, but I hope it doesn’t get worse.

[open ibex]

@eager portal GG, i had to sell so many for ophisto

[eager portal]

Gg

[mighty tulip]

Sounds fun, I should be able to make it 🙂

[frozen tartan]

You're on the list.

@flint lodge Are you coming? It would be interesting to fight against the whale.

[flint lodge]

i am noob but if i won't have a lot of work - I will

[frozen tartan]

You’re not risking anything. I’m a noob too. The entire Leviathan ranking will be reset.
It’s just for fun. Purely for enjoyment.

[mighty tulip]

Is leviathan still stats and levels? I have decent stats for many illuvials but no levels in them 😅

[frozen tartan]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

For now, we can only play the broken version of Leviathan, where levels don’t work.

That’s the main bug. There are many other smaller ones, but that’s the main one.

[mighty tulip]

That's suits me fine 🙂

[hot pond]

Is the bard guy not playing anymore?

[safe valve]

Think he left when airdrop stopped

[lean ivy]

Damn wish I could, but will be busy. Would love to do the same thing tomorrow if anyone can do the same time.

[frozen tartan]

That's really a pity.

[violet summit]

how can't I find 9 winqs at level 7, after rolling 100 gold, when literally no one else has a winq on their team?
am I just unlucky? thats it? 😮
I find this really hard to believe

[viral marsh]

someone can hold 8 on bench

[ebon aspen]

Hold them, then sell them fast before round starts and buy them again if they come up 🤣

[ebon aspen]

Do you guys roll during battle or planning phase ?

[ashen mango]

Let's go in 4h then

[frozen tartan]

You're on the list.

https://tenor.com/view/sappy-seals-sappy-seals-cute-adorable-gif-7657027256940086752

[frozen tartan]

You on gif?

[ashen mango]

No it's another sappy seal, it's an NFT collection

[mighty tulip]

I check what everyone else is playing during battle. I wouldn't roll personally

[sinful hornet]

but can we fucking get this cancer sell unit mechanic out of the game already when we've complained about how turbo aids it's been for 5 months?

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/the-hangover-humor-laughs-gif-23091886

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/theboys-perfect-gif-23821319

[ember sail]

@viral marsh Fox, what do you usually do when at least one other player is going for the same comp as you? Do you wait it out and hope they lose HP and release the Illuvials, or do you pivot to another comp? I’ve noticed more people are copying your current Mystic build, which kinda messes things up a bit. Honestly, whenever there’s build contest, the game just gets harder. Just curious — in those situations, do you usually hold the line and stick with your comp, or do you switch to something with less contest? I remember you said you start locking in your Illuvials from level 7, so I guess around that time you’re scoping out which comps are less contested?

I personally feel it’s insanely hard to build the Air comp when more than one player is contesting it. It feels like at some point, the Illuvials just start showing up for the other guy, no matter how much gold I spend.

[viral marsh]

this build harder that seems. and have different win conditions.
don't know why people play it, when even don't understand how play it and what to do.
and about same comp - it's depend which comp i go to play.

[viral marsh]

yes, some builds. like air, mud,invoker - you can't play in contest.

[ember sail]

Yeah, it’s way harder. I tested it myself and could barely hold a decent position. I guess it’s natural — people tend to copy what’s working. Since you climbed a lot of points with that build, everyone’s trying to replicate the same success.

[ember sail]

true

[viral marsh]

just play game on air, and i see at lvl 8, that 2 people probably go on it. but i think - can this people play it well? - no, and decide continue

[ember sail]

And about that — sometimes by round 21, the whole comp basically unlocks just for you.

[viral marsh]

if you not die before/which air you play. i know about 3 different.

[ember sail]

game with templar

[viral marsh]

you need good start with it. otherway you probably not alive.
yes, i'd like this templar

[ember sail]

haha

and I don't usually use Spore much, I don't feel much difference

[frozen tartan]

Friends, 1 hour and 28 minutes until the Leviathan slaughter begins!

@spring basin Come with us. I want to practice against a champion.

[void dust]

Don't worry, I'll be there.

[frozen tartan]

You're on the list.

[pseudo phoenix]

Hi, @frozen tartan I just came online, are you still practicing?

[frozen tartan]

Hey. The Leviathan games start in 1 hour and 20 minutes.
I’d be happy if you join.

[pseudo phoenix]

count on me

[spring basin]

Don't have time for it sry

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-disappointed-surprise-sad-hrmpf-gif-27063071

[native mauve]

ill take @spring basin spot!

will be big drop off in skill though))

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-ariel-donald-duck-dance-gif-24343483

[gloomy mural]

@arctic steppe @stuck epoch

[worldly token]

anyone having the problem that you want te reposition and then click a random augment when the choices pop up? screws me sometimes

[frozen tartan]

28 minutes until Gauntlet Leviathan training begins!
At exactly 15:30 UTC, we hit the queue!

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-dancing-gif-111983949420379095

[mighty tulip]

Yeah I done this before. It shouldn't be possible to insta click an augment. A 2 sec delay from augment showing to being able to pick would probably fix this.

[mighty tulip]

Training? I just plan on playing all my best stuff and hoping I make top 4 😅

[frozen tartan]

I’m sure you’ll crush everyone.🍯

[rapid zenith]

How's the list looking? Can I join?

[west plume]

open for all

just que up

[rapid zenith]

👍

[mighty tulip]

2 more needed for leviathan

[frozen tartan]

I'm shocked.

[mighty tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/scared-brad-pitt-is-there-no-one-else-fight-me-challenge-gif-14473512

[frozen tartan]

15:30 UTC
7/8

[west plume]

omg

[noble hinge]

3/8 Leviathan

[west plume]

ohhh we are 3\8 now

[open ibex]

Oh I'm late

[noble hinge]

We might even be able to fill 2 games at this rate.

[west plume]

we are 4\8 now

[open ibex]

Coming

[west plume]

5\8

6\8

[lime cloak]

2 more...

[dark scaffold]

i am in 7/8

@zenith mortar

[west plume]

i have my list ready

[open ibex]

Btw any known/reported bug? So we don't repeatly report

[dark scaffold]

I am just looking for an opportunity to brag with this one ^^

will play him from round 1 till i die ^^

[dark scaffold]

should be same old same old

like in ranked

[frank moon]

omw

[lime cloak]

will try my "teddy" against your Scorpion then... although he is not DH

[twilit storm]

Rangers, Gauntlet Grinders IV Qualification ends TONIGHT (23:59 UTC snapshot). Update: An API key issue may delay the Finals announcement. Rest assured, your points are accurately recorded (problem is API, not match data). Finalists & waitlist will be shared immediately upon API resolution. Don't stop now.

[zenith mortar]

Trying to resolve again now

[dusty tinsel]

my augments disappeared when leveling up @frozen tartan

[lime cloak]

same.. augments disappear when unit level up 😦

[west plume]

dont for forget to use B ingame to report

[mighty tulip]

damn I didn't get anything I was aiming for that game. I only got 5th because of my big bird 😅

[noble hinge]

The Fludd that was on my board wasn't my best stat Fludd. I thought the game automatically picked the best?

[mighty tulip]

Typical Fludd behaviour, couldn't even be bothered to show up when you needed him

[hollow orbit]

In Leviathan mode, if I advance to the next stage while wearing an Augment, the Augment I was wearing will disappear. It's a damn bug.

[pseudo phoenix]

yes

[void dust]

Yeah, I thought I was missing one. TY

[frozen tartan]

I didn’t play for about 12 minutes. My computer shut down and wouldn’t turn back on. Then I had issues reconnecting.
So I know how you feel, my friend.

[zenith mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/wiking-viking-słowianin-słowianie-slowianie-gif-22101005

Winnie I come for you

Levithan

[frozen tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/unsheathing-the-sword-geralt-of-rivia-the-witcher-the-witcher3wild-hunt-weapon-at-the-ready-gif-26926247

[noble hinge]

Actually I bet the one I got did have a higher TPI.
I just wanted the one that has 0 movement speed and 5 on everything else. Wish the game would choose our hearted Illuvials or something.

[frank moon]

it picks the highest level

[frank moon]

if its good you should take care of it and level it up

[noble hinge]

Ahhhh...yeah that makes sense then. It did place the one that used to be my best so it has been played more. Thanks!

[open ibex]

I don't know what happened

[tawdry sinew]

sometimes the end of the battles cut short in leviathan and I lost 2 of those when I felt I should have won - 1 of them was against a single krunk with a small amount of health and I still had 3 units, one of them an adoredo, there is no way that krunk outlasted my 3 against the life loss at the end, but I have lost that battle, it was against you @open ibex did you see it as correct?

[open ibex]

ya the last few seconds of the battle was like cut off, but my krunk was having wildfire maybe that's why

[tawdry sinew]

ok, could be, but the last seconds are just cut short indeed, 3-4 times it happened during the game, and we can't see the resolution of the battle

[noble hinge]

I just realized that the way they pick the Illuvials, the super low stat s2s that I was leveling up to do fuses for skins are picked.

We definitely need a mechanism in place where hearted Illuvials are first chosen or something.

[sinful hornet]

if u were to launch rewards for levi right now how are bots not getting 50% of them btw?

[frank moon]

2 more leviathan gogo

[frozen tartan]

What are you talking about?

[sinful hornet]

amount of places getting rewards compared to amount of players

[west plume]

6\8 Levithan

[frozen tartan]

About 16 people were playing at the same time today.

In a broken mode. An absolutely broken mode.

With no rewards.

If you fix the mode and add rewards — the activity will skyrocket.
The TOP 32 will definitely be taken by strong players. Bots with empty decks are unlikely to get in.

[viral marsh]

32. i think we have more people with decks

[frank moon]

so you say 50%? we don't have 4 leviathan players?

we just had 2 lobbies going which is basically 84% of the rewards

I thought I was the bear in the cave

https://tenor.com/view/hibernate-wake-up-sleepy-bear-hangover-gif-6211232814871111866

[sinful hornet]

ah hold on levi wasn't top 100 too?

[frozen tartan]

32

[sinful hornet]

ok nvm then

[naive mantle]

leviathan 7/8 someone join! 🙂

why do all the illuvials sparkle?

[west plume]

it means you own it

[ashen mango]

Are levels working in leviathan?

[frozen tartan]

no

[naive mantle]

looks like it

[frozen tartan]

no my friend

[naive mantle]

it at least 'looks' like its in

[mighty tulip]

1 augment against 4 😕 . leviathan mode is unplayable right now imo. too many bugs

[west plume]

note to self,remove augments before fusing in levithan

[mighty tulip]

Is that what it is. Fusing deletes it?

[west plume]

yep

[dusty tinsel]

I evolved my illuvial and it had only 1 augment, it didn't disappear, but the ones that had 2 augments, when evolving, disappeared

[naive mantle]

ok leviathan mode def buggy as fuck xD rounds are changing so weirdly...

[mighty tulip]

Fair enough, don't think I'll be playing the mode again after that experience. Not until it's fixed

[naive mantle]

like before the round even ends the next one starts...

[west plume]

good to get it testetd before rewards kicks in

[naive mantle]

agreed, i dont like what im seeing so far xD

[torpid trellis]

7/8

[lime cloak]

Lost most of my Augments this time...
(also send Bug report)

Only had 3 left in the end, lol

[noble hinge]

I know there are bugs and some real issues with Leviathan right now but there's still something special about playing with your own Illuvials.
Being able to roll up lynxes and actually get my K. Cat was cool. There's a lot of potential here.

[lime cloak]

100% agree.... this will be so cool when we get the bugs fixed and last features!

[frozen tartan]

@hollow orbit It was an honor to fight with you.

[noble hinge]

It was fun guys. Thanks for the tag @frozen tartan . I've got to take off.

[frozen tartan]

Thanks for participating!

[lime cloak]

thanks for setting up the games @frozen tartan was fun to finally play a few games
(kids are asking if we are not having any dinner at all, so better go take care of that) 🤣

[frozen tartan]

Make Leviathan great again!

https://tenor.com/view/trump-gif-18529180

[sinful hornet]

are we sure weapons aren't actually bugged? for the whole week i've had 4 cost weapons way more common at 7 than at lvl 8

[summer frigate]

I want to play leviathan bro, let me know next time

[frozen tartan]

Hi! Of course.

[twilit storm]

@sinful hornet @viral marsh @spring basin and all the Grinders

5 hours to the final snapshot

Tomorrow you will battle for 60 ILV prize pool.

Best 8 will go into the final, remaining 12 will automatically go into the waiting list

[viral marsh]

seems i play a bit more that need.

[twilit storm]

to be a legend you must sacrifice more than the others

[viral marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-legend-dog-gif-10881770

[supple beacon]

I hope you made the right choice

[sinful hornet]

it was a hidden 4th choice

[viral marsh]

when that happend i don't roll last one.
but i see - some players pick this drone aug. xD

[sinful hornet]

they need to start giving us rerolls for patches

[ember sail]

326 points impossible lol

328

[sinful hornet]

i hope he knows it's not prize based on this

[viral marsh]

we 1st time look on score board. so - i just play and think all breath at my back.

[zenith mortar]

The universe was speaking to you

[twilit storm]

We have the finalists of The Gauntlet Grinder IV. Please be present on Discord (Gauntlet Lobby 1) at least 20 minutes before the event starts

The event will be organized on the Illuvidata game hub

pls dm me your Illuvidata platform nickname so i can invite you on for the final

[marsh bloom]

DMs are scams

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[tropic forge]

Hi friend , i Wasnt aware of this. At what time does the event starts?

[twilit storm]

who are you on this list?

[tropic forge]

The Eight one , abelfrk93

[twilit storm]

Event will start at 21:00 UTC

Pleae make an account on Illuvidata and send me your nickname

[tropic forge]

Ok, i will

[twilit storm]

Please be present on Discord at 21:10 UTC

need the Illuvidata nickname of the top 8 players and of the others on the LBwho want to be on the waiting list

[open ibex]

GG @ebon aspen , I tried to long snipe ophisto 🤣 🤣

[ebon aspen]

very smart, GG

[supple epoch]

Rank 5/8

[rancid raptor]

at what point is this calculation made? i keep winning 2nd fight with 20 gold left and my income is only 7 (should be 5 plus 1 plus 2 = 8)?

[ember sail]

gold per win

you win?

loss not gold

[ember sail]

You need to win at least 3 times to add the win streak, if I'm not mistaken, there's a document they released that explains this well.

[low comet]

Guys have you experience game crashed after 8/8 then when you restart there's no game to reconnect?

[dark scaffold]

is your game crashing OR you alt+F4 after few second of seing 8/8?

[low comet]

Game crash few seconds after 8/8 already on the loading screen into arena. But when i reopen the game no reconnect button

[dark scaffold]

do you have the blask crash window? (always clisk "send" button)

[low comet]

Noneeee

[dark scaffold]

also, if you do not see recconect button, I have seen few ppl re-opening game few times and then reconnects appearing

[dark scaffold]

this is weird, whats your PC setup? latest GPU drivers instelled etc?

[low comet]

Rx 6600 i think its because i changed graphics from medium to high

[dark scaffold]

so wait like 30 seconds and reopen the game and check

[low comet]

It looked like I alt F4 the game no signs of crashing hahaha

[dark scaffold]

for testing, lower setting a bit and lets monitor if its persistent

[sinful hornet]

either the rates got completely fucked when u changed the 0 costs or the shop rates need readjusting, there's no way you should be able to do this at lvl 7 this is just dumb as fuck

[winged fox]

why not?

[sinful hornet]

cuz it's insanely dumb

[winged fox]

what does the level have to do with it if it's already the 30th round))

[uncut comet]

Can just agree 100% , i also reported that at the Start of the New Update

[winged fox]

The level has nothing to do with the amount of money. The level only affects the chance of falling out

[sinful hornet]

but that's the problem

there's no world where 7 should be the level u roll to 3 star 5 costs

also the amount of 5 costs stage 2 at level 6 is also too many currently

they really need to just turn the 0 costs and lynxes into 1 and 2 costs so we have an actual unit pool

[viral marsh]

it's random. 1 game i play with grokko stage 3 at round 3. other i play with 5 stage-1 units at turn 8.
1 game i got sear/geyser at round 19. other i can't find even 1 unit.

[uncut comet]

i cant say what the problem is but just that it wasnt that extreme before and felt alot better pre tier0 update

[sinful hornet]

the unit pool just gets exhausted faster which makes shops fill with 4 and 5 costs

[ashen mango]

Yes the rates seem to be off

Highly unlikely situations happening almost every game

Rolling a lot of gold and not seeing an uncontested units while your odds are OK

Or the reverse, getting Jotun and Phosphorus level 7 is also highly unlikely unless maybe you have 200 gold

[sinful hornet]

also 5% tier 5 on 6 and lvl 5 having any chance at all is too high

answer might be to just increase t1 rates at later levels

[ashen mango]

Sometimes I wonder if there are fewer illuvials of some kinds depending on the game
Game 1: there are 60% less Scarabok
Game 2: there are 60% less Phyri

I understand that since luck is part of the mechanism of the game there will always be people thinking that it's rigged but even Sl1ckz who played TFT a lot thinks that there is a problem with the illuvial pool

[sinful hornet]

i mean it's just comparison of before and after the t0 changes

the gold breakpoints at the start of the game are also really bad, the only decision you can make is to either spend nothing or spend it all, lvl 4 you can never actually make extra econ from staying at lvl 3, just 0 actual decisions early game

[rancid raptor]

I'm not counting win streak. It's +1 for a win, +5 base and +2 interest

Idk seems I'm gettin -1 every second or third round

[sinful hornet]

i've complained about gold being wrong for a month

[tawdry sinew]

As someone who has worked years in casinos and played poker professionally back in the day I can say that "weird" streaks of luck are more common than people think, mainly because there are so many ways for it to be weird.

And you guys at the top keep in mind that - as frustrating as it can feel to lose against someone's lucky team/augment combo - this is what keeps weaker players coming back. You need this to be the case or a casual player just burns out quickly and plays something else. Skill will work out in the long run, but luck plays an important role in the game's longevity.

[sinful hornet]

ok but this is a pointless thing to say when we have before and after comparisons

[rancid raptor]

Do you know how to play around this bug?

[sinful hornet]

what do u mean, u cant

[rancid raptor]

Well if you spend it all in the begining for example then you don't get -1 so it might be worth

Is it pointless to win or is it pointless to stack? Which one is not working

I doubt it's the passive giving +4 instead of +5

[sinful hornet]

the only one i noticed is that pre round 7 the gold is wrong either in display or in reality, i haven't looked for other rounds

[rancid raptor]

Check second and third you'll find it wrong almost every game

[tawdry sinew]

Why pointless? This debate is about adjusting the luck element in the game. Should we allow for S3T5 units to exist at x level or not? Whether before or after the update was the better balance etc. All I'm saying is that there needs to be enough luck involved for the game to be successful. And the more luck involved the more times you will encounter these weird chance combos. There is a reason poker played worldwide by millions. That game has nailed the luck element at a sweet spot.

[sinful hornet]

it's not luck, it's consistent

[ashen mango]

And if the pool isn't working correctly there will also be "weird" streaks, just more often
The point is to say that knowing the existence of these weird steaks even if the pool was working properly, it seems that the pool is not working properly

[sinful hornet]

well the pool got straight up changed to have less trash in it so yea

[tawdry sinew]

Well, if it isn't working properly it should absolutely be investigated and fixed, no argument there. All I'm saying is that it can feel like it's not working even if it is, due to the adjusted unit weights in pool. I feel like it's not working properly every other game when I can't find what I need 😅

But I also remember feeling the same playing poker when I run into a shitty streak...

[sinful hornet]

oh ye the gold is wrong everytime no wonder this game's so shit

[spring basin]

Do you have screenshots with diffrent amounts?

[sinful hornet]

just count, it always gave me +1 more than it should've on losses

or the indicator's wrong

it started on first pve round too tho

[spring basin]

So is it only when you lose that the amount is wrong?

[sinful hornet]

idk i haven't won yet

but i mean pve is a win and it was +1

yea it's wrong so many times with +1 or -1

on wins and losses both

oh it's legit almost everytime that it's wrong

ye it's just completely fucked

also i'm 95% sure the shop is actually fucked, the amount of times higher tier stuff is easier to find at lvl 6 than at lvl 8 is too insane to be outliers

[lyric flint]

The lower drop rate might be because many other players have already taken it

[sinful hornet]

no it's in top 2 almost uncontested

also uncontested 4 cost weapons are basically impossible to find at lvl 8 but at 7 u find one every 2nd shop

dude, does losing give the gold per win and winning doesn't is that it?

ok no it's not that

[lyric flint]

You will earn 1 gold for each round you win

A streak of 4 will give 2 gold, and a streak of 5 will give 3 gold.

[hot pond]

Yesterday a dude had phorus at level 6 already. What a joke

[sinful hornet]

yesterday in 5 rolls at 6 i found a goliant looking for a t1 weapon

and at 8 i need to roll 20 times for that

[twilit storm]

def broken imho

[hot pond]

I rolled 80 gold at level 9 to find a 3rd squizz when nobody had it and didn’t find any

[viral marsh]

when player eliminated. sometimes his units got back in pool right after he die, but sometimes only turn/some turns after.
i miss 1 t5 - opponent with s2 unit die - i roll 70 gold right after and can't find it.

but most painfull it's when you roll 60 gold for weapon in best lvl to get it, and can't find weapon stage-2.
but at other game you look - and your opponent have weapon stage 3 at 16 round.

[hot pond]

Yea weapons are the worst to get

[sinful hornet]

@topaz lake gold per round isn't what the indicator says it should be, to the point where you can see this loading into 1 game and checking it for a few rounds

[violet summit]

Best combo for Ophisto? 🙂

[twilit storm]

@haughty lintel pls accept my friend request

you are in the waiting list for tonit event

[mighty tulip]

where you at @zenith mortar I keep looking for you in these lobbies 🧐

[torpid trellis]

2/8

[violet summit]

@twilit storm is the event being livestreamed?

[uncut comet]

did u watched in the 2nd window for week2?

[west quartz]

ohhhh you're right maybe i didn't play 20 games first week mb

[haughty lintel]

@twilit storm Thank you for the amazing tournament, most fun i've ever had playing illuvium!

[tropic forge]

@twilit storm My First , but not my last tournament. I had a blast playing with these top players . I was nervous asf.
Ty for everything and congrats to all the players.

[torpid trellis]

7/8

[twilit storm]

GAUNTLET GRINDERS IV Final standings

1s Hollow | PHTM
2nd Foxspirit | Atlas
3rd Frk | SYNDICATE
4th Sl1Ckz | HYPE
5th GMPhoenix
6th Teckson| HYPE
7th Thanatos | HYPE
8th Sota | HYPE

[zenith mortar]

@west plume I’m a bachelor tonight I’m coming for you

@mighty tulip you too

[mighty tulip]

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[worldly token]

4/8 noone wants to play?

[hot pond]

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[mighty tulip]

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[mighty tulip]

@compact parcel you're in a game if you didn't know

[compact parcel]

🤣