#🎮〕illuvium-arena
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Work really gets in the way of the grind!
@vivid stirrup Is your challenge still ongoing to beat your winstreak?
sure thing! until 3x screenshots of a better one are posted below the twitter post ^^
What's the challenge? I've a couple of 100% HP wins 👀
how is he at 98??
If the old dmg numbers is still active he should be 96
Was he still 98 after round ended so it wasn't a delayed effect?
ye he was
You should report it 👍 I will mention it to Nil also 🙏
can you track ur gold before the 2nd pve round, as in like round 7 or something, see if u get it wrong sometimes
yeah sure I will keep an eye on it
Seems like the removed the levels so then it's correct
Not sure how you come to the conclusion it won't be too strong? Lol. I could see it being questioned at a 20% overall boost, but 50%?
can someone explain why the fuck quinx is charming synalph in the conrer here instead of the fucking tatopee?
Hmmm, either you or I didn't read carefully 🤔 I am saying that if 50% proves too strong we will consider nerfing. Not the other way around 👍🏻
do you seriously not have functionality to disable something in game like a tier 3 augment showing up at tier 1?
Good start for Hyperion Academy! Looks like our legacy of #1 competitive community will continue more than ever into this official competitive scene debut 
How much did whity cost ya? 😄
3 years of good relationship 
it was always meant to be
Does anyone have the Illuvium sheet with all the Data for Gauntlet like shop odds etc. handy?
pinned
cheers!
Done ☑️
^^
does starting a game now means u'll get dced midway and won't count?
Most likely, is it really worth it?
shouldn't but there's no garantee
is this fixing the fortress augment bug?
no changes to the synergy, augments, combat units no
Is it regarding the invisible ranger?
so the 2 drone augments stay bugged?
it's trying to improve this amongst other things yes but it's not a full fix
GG wp! That was a close one 👀
It went wrong here, it started at the time of the update
I'm doing it, I hope there's still time to do something...
wait so tehre's no downtime?
wow matching game and now need to update
does this mean the 1 hour since announcement till now so no downtime needed?
that's what we're trying to achieve as much as possible but there's "some downtime" from when the new servers are up and the client update isn't available in Epic yet
so what are the patch notes
lets resume this new season:
everyone playing Frost/vanguard comps, whoever gets better augments has more chance to win
the end
buyaaa 🙂
was lazy to change comp 😅
if im not wrong ill be on 1st place in leaderboard soon 😱
didnt have much time to test comps so i had to test some when leaderboard started
🥲
yeah same, oh well. Im just glad im back playing and enjoying myself
cant wait for what the gauntlet will be like 6 months from now, going to be epic
its already fun how it is
Well, i'm losing all games
or 3rd to 4th place, but learning in the process... been out from Illuvium from months. Glad to be back and get my ass wiped... but having fun 🤣
I just came in 2nd place and lost points, I was at 1420 and went back to 1402, detail I gained fuel, could that be the reason I gained fuel and lost points?
Everyone’s ranking was reset as well so you’re likely playing with a lot of people who’ve been grinding it a bunch
The average lobby rating compared to yours for the reason you lost points. Fuel isn’t affected by rating at all just placement in the top 4
Im grinding too 😂 , at least to learn... i need this week for training ... grinded overworld a lot, but really never played too much gauntlet. Aiming to get a decent spot next week, this week is to get my arse burn 🔥 😂 3
I had 1420, I was in 2 and I earned another 18. I went to look at my points and it was 1402. It should be 1438.
Second place cant lose points no matter the avg lobby rating
@sinful hornet reported a similar situation earlier today where he got first but lost 40/50 points
Seems like something is going on
GG! ADR?
I think that is the feature to prevent people from getting sick for playing 30 games a day
Do you mean Average place?
not in the game now, around 10 place
No sorry I meant will u spend the fuel on auto-drone runs? I love the 30% fuel drop rewards, great idea
Idk what i will do yet 😄
So, is the leaderboard going to reset every week to 1200? or carries over ?
I think they said it won't reset until season one (this being pre-season)
I might have dream that though 😂
there is a possibility if u cancel and requeue u get put into 2 games so u lose points because u went 8th in one
if not then the points given are fucked
Something happened to me like the gamer crashed and I went back and there was no option to go back to the gamer... I went straight to pulling up another game. In my case, maybe that was it.
Matchmaking is and unbalanced mess. I'm getting matched with the top 10 all the time.
Devs make the player experience better please...
Need more players at similar elo for the matchmaking to work optimal
Tops players are farming players with like 4 or 5 games. I undertand but it should be some kind of balance
No reset for a while according to Nill
They get almost to no points if they win from lower elo so I don't think they like it either
oh yeah
Can you post current standings? 🙏
i figured out what's happening
i just canceled a queue in finding match
im 99% i entered that game and can't connect to it
so u should never ever in ur life click cancel queue
another -50 is super fun tho can't wait for multiplayer servers to fix this
Is it because it gets filled and then you canel or can it be at lower numbers like 3/8?
Is that from raffle?
it doesn't show me numbers, it showed me finding match, i canceled it, it started buffering, i went back it gave me loading screen which i assume meant i'm in that game and i can't reconnect to it
since the queue started at 1 right after
nope, random 30% for every match i think
@viral marsh am i in ur game?
Is 40 a lot now? How much do the runs cost?
what you mean?
40 is ridiculously low.
Oh
right now am i in ur lobby
1199 fuel for a ADR high run
it's not me
Don't we already have multiplayer servers?
From a free game? On top of LB rewards and raffle tickets? How is that low? Give out more and watch things inflate even more as they are now.
What are you talking about?
The guy asked if it was a lot.
I said it's not.
Why are you even bringing this up?
If it were up to me, I'd disable Ranked mode and leave only Leviathan — not with the messed-up stats we have now, but with the ones it used to have.
Thanks for the update 🙏
it's 40cents free drop.
Some totally random napkin number twisting....
Assuming there will be 10 lobbies at the same time going on at some point, that would be roughly 20 lobbies per our, that would be 480 lobbies a day.
top 4 have a 30% chance winning fuel (80+60+40+20= 200Fuel).
So that's 480/3*200=32K fuel a day, which is like 320$ in fuel.
ok now im confused, it seems that i wasn't actually in another game (unless for some reason the first one takes longer than the 2nd and im speaking too soon) so something happened where i got -40 for a 1st
lemme check
@sinful hornet you had +15 rating last 1st place match
in history at least
yeah i'm talking i thought i was gonna be afk in one game and then play in the 1st place game
like at the same time
negative, there is no match where you had -40. the match before this you had +18
you need to rest a bit imho
this -40 happened hours ago, maybe like 5 games ago
somewhere in the 5 to 10
ok I ll check back
like the game itself didn't say -40, the game said normally +18
but then i went to leaderboard tab and had 30-40 less points than it just showed me and i should've had
so i assumed there was some fuckery where i had a game i wasn't actually in
52 games is crazy, @sinful hornet on the real grind
it's in 3 days
ok then, no need to check
actually you can check 1 thing maybe, did i have any 8ths today? cuz then that answers it
well actually my win % went down after the game i won too i remember that
btw guys do u ever get like a crackling sound in the game that won't go away if u alt tab sometimes?
like static
@sinful hornet found it
first match ouchhhh it hurts I need help to relearn all the new mechanics of the game
look at the 1st place team and my team (last place)
@cyan olive help 
i can help you with learning game again with coaching session. but not today, tournament time soon.
I believe Rich actually pays people to coach them himself.
now this error pops up when I try to get in a ranked gauntlet game..
and this afterwards:
Are you on a VPN
idk, I guess stage 3s op?
no, but becoz of these delays I connect to a game after 10 12 rounds.
hey, If you play on PC little bit below min specs, lower every setting to low, lower the resolution, close all applications
give your client as much free avaible PC power as possible to load in to the match in 20 seconds
so much rating to be best.
how much will it be at the end of week? 2350?
Guys who are playing or, it's more worthwhile to go hunting or use the autodrone. I saw some guys with up to 74,000 points, I went to do a stage 1 and only got 100 points lol
hi is there any way of knowing if i already played the 15 needed games for the rewards
leaderboard shows u amount of games played
If yer rank is below 1200, good luck finding that info. Board is packed full of people with zero games played.
if your rank is below 1200 you can't get fuel
it's actually lower than 1200
why does surrendering in top 4 disqualify you?
it's hard/too time consuming to verify that it's a legit game and not 8 people abusing?
Does anyone stream a good player in the top 10?
If you get DC / crash does it count as surrendering to be disqualified?
from top-10 only Illuvination streamer, but not see he is streaming during current grind.
@vivid stirrup with delay ? you stream ?
let me know if you find people, I might want to watch vods on the side^^
He was streaming last night with a slight delay.
a video recorded for YouTube?
Twitch usually is recorded as well
0 delay
https://youtube.com/live/2wLEOKmc4yk?feature=share
here have 5 hours of forcing frost 😄
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im getting this too
@dark scaffold low settings, closed other applications 
and this when i surrender
its from the update, no issues yesterday
What's the meta so far?
game is bugged when i enter too, can select illuvials but doesnt show on board. then boots me
Gauntlet Grinders III has ended. Congratulations to the 12 winners. Thank you all for playing
Rewards will be sent shortly.
1 point different 👀
@haughty lintel pls contact me.
@west plume has grown a lot 💪
he's almost a grown up now 🙃
I'm starting to get concerned about these moderators.
They're dark horses.
While @light garnet was distracting everyone with the catch in Overworld, you and @west plume @static crane started taking everyone down in the Arena.
i just got wrecked 😔
didn't even had the chance to battle you in the finals
I didn't make it to the finals. I got eliminated in the semifinals.
Is the biggest dark horse ahead?
Oh certainly not me.
me too 😄
jesse might play inkognito for rich lately, so his account doesn't get last all the time 🤔
Does survival mode still work? I need a refresher on what all these guys do. 🙂
It doesn't seem to remind me in a gauntlet match anywhere that I can see...
what is the meta?
Yes
I am
did they remove drag and drop?
people not like it?
it takes 2 clicks now to move an illuvial instead of one, pretty annoyingf
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can someone please help me. i hate the default camera tilt it used to be modified by right clicking and tilting but now it moves motzart. how do i now tilt
ctrl+click
i just got booted
hi guys, got some random fuel after a gauntlet arena match. is this part of the new rewards system?
It is ser
Of the above I set you get a 30% chance to get some fuel
@sinful hornet Explain to me why 4 Iluvias go to finish off their animals and they simply run away from them afterwards
That must be the most cringe team comp i have played against, dont think you get get further up into a corner than that xd
This happened twice, this game has this disgusting bug. If you hit it a little, the illuvial will stay alive and you will go after another one, ahhhh
it's an item that makes the unit untargetable
Seriously, what is this item? The troops ran away from it. I thought it even had an enchanter, lol.
impossible to break through blotto, that unit needs a nerf
I had to release Blazenite to make the 9 Iluvias and put the Slashi, then I got another Wildfire. There was no way to tank it anymore
im sorry i didn't just play frost next time i will just do that instead
yeah, i struggled so hard to get through 1 unit, in about 20 seconds.. Phorus, Ryplance, and Jotun attacking it, it still had like 50% health, no chance getting through
yes, it is difficult to get past him
In my mind, Blotto is the most OP unit in the game, and its a T3
play it then i'll take slashin malura any day
nahh, not my style 😉 just a bit mad, solid team comp, very hard to beat
you played smart, both me and alnert contested malura and slashin
it's not even playable i just got everything perfect for it, if you force that comp u go 8th
It's really good to play when the hollow doesn't want to take 1st place lol
@sinful hornet
It's a shame I only discovered the meta yesterday, I feel like I could have gone up a few more points
the meta is literally abuse bugged augments and abuse units so broken they'd be hotfixed 5 hours in in tft
Is there a guide online with Illuvial sinergies, weapons, upgrades, etc?
there is a google sheet with all the info, but ask @zenith mortar or mods, the bot will ista ban me if I try to link it here
@zenith mortar Help?
here you go https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/htmlview
put a dualeph and an ophisto still lol
@worn tree hi. yesterday we had a controversial situation at the tournament. in the final screenshot, we both take 6th place. I lost first, then Teckson lost. But I'm above him in the table. Can you tell me how the place in the final table of the game is determined? who actually took 5th place?
@twilit storm As for the prediction for the next grind, now that it's not worth it. I already have 3 wins and 2 second places lol
wut?
Hey Brewcrew,
In the event both players are eliminated at the same round. First is end health, the player with bigger negative health is positioned lower. In case they both have same end health, the player who lost faster in the elimination round is positioned lower.
We are aware there's this bug with end game positioning and we will fix it.
It is on the stream, u died when I still have HP and moved to next round
is it allowed to play on smurfs on the same day if u name them clearly as smurfs?
No it wasn't the same round for this case, check the tournament stream
What madness is this? They threw me into 4th place, even though Carablu was eliminated in the previous round.
@bronze spire see you
Its a shared 4th until his game finishes?
hmm yea can confirm, I do recall carablu getting knocked out than it was us 3 left
Well, that's strange. And he had even left early.
he for sure got 3rd though and looks like credited with a 4th given only 1 rating gain
but we were eliminated in different rounds. I lost the first one. I assumed that this was because of the value of the team? He had 4 t0 units. Wasn't that taken into account before?
eliminated in seperate rounds too
Value of the team plays no role into end game position. If you were eliminated in the round before, you should be positioned lower. There's something not working well with end screen positions and we will fix it.
Thank you for your patience. 🙏🏻
mayb check if the elo game was correct on leaderboard? might be just end screen bug
I understand you, Thanks for the clarifications. So I was wrong. @open ibex @fallen vortex You were right, I'm sorry. But I had to figure it out.
I don't know, they only gave me 1 point lol
it happened again
Ty
My casual plays are not counted towards the daily missions, is this normal?
I don't think daily missions are a thing anymore. at least not for rewards. only the leaderboards count. And we got the random fuel and raffle tickets
Those behemoths u had + blazenite did damage GG
Thanks, I'll ignore it then.
GG @west plume ... I still have a lot to learn, so good to be battling with good players!
Arena is ONFIRE! 
was a fun round
I wasnt expecting that Ophisto tbh. I was trying to kill your psion with my Rhamph but you always moved em to the right Spot XD
seeing the movement of other player can turn the tide really quick
that was @sinful hornet
indeed
oh, i lost 2 times vs that Ophisto... i was trying to get 2nd place at least... couldnt be 
next time
, perhaps...
this is not working 😄 winning at 9 wont give the income
The guide seems a little bit incomplete. Where can I find which Illuvial creates X synergy with another illuvial?
You can see that ingame aswell,if you hover over the Synergies you will see what illuvial gives that
Ok, thanks. In the team planner I can see that information in game.
yep,its a fun tool to play around with
after reroll. nice choice
gg @west plume
GG
How is the drop rate of the Fuel from Arena so far ? Is it easy to get some ?
Requirement are 20 games played and position Top 4 if i'm correct ?
Does it give always the same amount of fuel ?
There is 30% chance of getting fuel
Thanks Lars
This augment doesn't activate sometimes
@worn tree what is this BS? we were 3 : me @viral marsh and @candid zephyr ...for at least 2 rounds
then..wen San beated me..
I was 4th
this is BS
this is completely BS
happend with me some games ago, get 4th instead of 3rd. and 1 elo
@sinful hornet gg, goliant win
no kill didn't refund
that happens like 25% of the time
i don't think omega actually does 0 dmg from what i've seen, when that happens either they have the bugged augment so it deals very little dmg or he gets stunned when lightning is coming down and it still cancels it
The more I play this, the less I seem to like it. Half the time it looks like my fighters are just wandering around aimlessly instead of attacking.
It's like there are just too many effects that come into play, and can't even tell if anything is working as it's supposed to. Will try again later I guess. 🙂
It's kinda like playing poker where you don't know the ranks of the hands.
its a steep learning curve for sure 😄
and the broken lb is awesome too uh?
what's broken about it?
read my previous post just up here
my 3rd ^^
The person I tied for 4th place was knocked out a few rounds before me....what gives? anyone?
visual bug
visual bug, but you get less rating in this case
Thats typical illuvium lol
visual bug my a**
You played too much my friend
The game is telling you to calm down
Stop grinding for a few days and come back later 🙂
I haven't even played today yet lol
Wen tournaments?
@worn tree can Rhamphite omega be canceled mid air with taunt?
@bronze spire crashed for me
you got 2nd
GG
that Penguie and Malura combo hits hard
Is Rich in first place as usual?
not this time
thankfully for us not in this game
still only came 2nd though.
with the rogue I couldn't focus on penguin 
yeah full rogue ain't what it used to be. too squishy now
I had all the rogues alive but the vanguards team was enough to finish me off amazingly
Hello, is there a site to see for examples what illuvials have collosus attributes? So that i can familiarize builds.
Yes, illuvidata
I wasn't able to reconnect on 1 match so I accepted the 8th on that one and had something to do anyway, but when I check I got like -80 points
There are 3 colossus illuvials and all are stage 3: Cardulox (tier 1), Gnarl (tier 3) and Titanor (Tier 5).
You can go to Illuvidex (which is illuvium’s official trading platform) and search for illuvials of any class and affinity, basic or composite. Even if you don’t want to buy anything, you can see what illuvials exists in each class and affinity.
That’s illuvidex.illuvium.io
Why are these so difficult to acquire?
The hop between casual and ranked is too large.
stop beating me @bronze spire
haha
you had me a lot of those rounds
wow flawless man. never loss a round hahaha
ill wait till you sleep.
why I cant sell in shop?
Mid air it shouldn't, but right before getting airborne it still can be taunted/stunned and cancel the omega.
i had the same issue yesterday
@worn tree ive noticed the game kicks you out from final end screen too quick, this never used to happen.I like to look at peoples team comps/ augment choices and I get kicked out before im done looking. Also tried to report a bug with screenshot on final screen where I was misplaced for 4th insead of 3rd and got kicked out just before i sent the report which was kinda annoying as well.
Hey Allan, thx for the feedback. We are working on a fix for the placement issues that should be ready soon. Regarding timing being too short, we will see how to improve the experience.
Thx
nil how do u even balance the broken fighters thing ?
After abusing him to the core, he wants me to fix it lol
actually u make the weapon frost at stage 3 maybe
Does our elo have decimals? @worn tree
I wonder if a 4th place giving 0 points is actually giving 0.3 or something like that
@worn tree what is dmg amp, like the augment with 20% dmg amp 5 resist and the 6% dmg drone augment, is that all dmg or specifically physical?
I ended up in 3rd place, yet the game says 4th
Robinhood was out for at least 3 rounds
also, when is the frost going to be nerfed?
every lobby, the person that gets 3 frosts typically wins
its not very fun tbh
also you can check the guild tournaments, top players played frost with fighters build 90% of the games
this patch would've get hotfixed in tft 5 hours in but here we are like 4 days later
first let us gain a gigantic advantage in the lb...then fix the "broken fighters thing" right...ah
site does not show anything when i click "database".
Even without filters
just won my 1st match today, guess what... got 3 frost over the other opponent doing the same build
I call that skill
The game just froze and then crashed for me. I got this message:
They got nerfed last patch: Vanguards, Frost, Slashin and Malura all got nerfs. I'd rather see them nerf things slowly than make drastic changes. It's easier to find a good balance that way. But I do agree they need to fix the end screen as soon as possible, because that's game-breaking. The risk is overnerfing it then we will see corner comps only and that would be much worse in my opinion.
if there were no rogues stacking in the corner would be griefing
but they keep making it so there's always a best comp that can just slot in everything with 0 coutnerplay
big problem is that half the augments are legit unpickable trash and then 1's broken, 1's broken bugged and 2-3 are decent
also the fighter trait might just be giving too much attack speed to the non fighters
Try the illuvium arean team builder:
https://arena.illuvium.io/team-builder
you can find illuvials based on their class or affinity
Damage Amp is all sources of damage (included omega), Omega Damage Increase only applies to Omega Damage Sources
Yes, but we are rounding the points to integers.
It's because the opponents got 3 frost😂
I would nerf them again and the fighters buffs, it's insane to have anything over 50% speed with just 5 illuvial
And I hope they are planning new drone augments and adjustments to current ones
bulwark 5 gives 40 res to bulwarks, fortress 3 gives 30 +30 resists, fighters 3 gives 16 % aspeed, aspeed drone augment 3 gives 15%
allways 2 times in a row against the same opponent, if only 4 player remains!!??
why? does that make any sense??
Yep, I was in that game, and got same message
Do you know if you lost points or still same score+
don t know :/
Yeah I'm not saying things are perfectly balanced, more like they recently did a patch with good first steps. So give them so time to work on the next one and hopefully they try small changes again and we will be closer to more comps being playable 🙂
i do think the game is in a good spot without the blatant stuff
I'm worried about augments that give buffs or certain effects not being correctly applied and we have no way to check
I listed one yesterday that didn't restore full health at 20%. There are probably more but I'm not aware yet. Will try to watch more closely
They tell me that I'm in the game, but it doesn't even reconnect me
how to lose leaderboard points out of the blue
Look at this stupit guy🤣 he strongly needs some ILV, i guess🧐 could anyone explain to my what this drone is for, other then making people angry!?
I suggest to nerf frost even more
That's 10k health + 30% damage amp + it does a 30% AS debuff
hey guys are the points working correctly? im losing 7 points for 5th and getting 7 points for second. Is it supposed to be llike that?
Can confirm... Just went into a match with 1109, bumped up to 1124 for third place and got 40 fuel.
I think the points are entirely dependent on the points of the other people in the match.
it's not supposed to be like that, before patch u lost -50 for 5th KEKW
yeah maybe the higher the points, the more you lose for finishing lower and the less you get for higher
@native mauve what about my third finish vs good elo guys and gaining only 3 points then , @worn tree any secret logic we do not known
Yeah @twilit storm we are around the same ranking, they are tryna keep us down🤣
NERF FROST
I just finished 4th place and the game for some reason put me at 6th with just 5 players left on the battle lol
Was there a patch/hotfix. I already had 10 crashes in my current round
@ebon monolith what is happening? My game always crashes when I am fighting you. I can only reconnect after the fight
ramphire🔥 🔥 🔥
It wasn't Rhamphyere who saved you there lol it was the immortal Blazenite
dont know
My game crashed 20 times trying to reconnect... 😦
guess you won?
yes
Would have been close if I could play 😄 I had still a lot of gold and nearly had Slashin
but gz anyway
i had that 100 times reconect problem before
then i hacked some stuff andd fixed it
now here and there random screen freeze or crash
@spring basin How many points were you given for the last game?)
whats even up with blazenite , had also one game where someone had a blazenite which wouldnt die and he played even without wildfire
13
he gains resistance +7 every 3 attacks if I'm not mistaken because of the templar
I haven't noticed anything that's not working. If something takes a bigger hit than 20% it wouldn't proc. Not sure if that's was the case or not?
It wasn't. I remember he got it by multiple units but nothing like a rhamphyre cast or squizz attack
The illuvial reached 20% HP and it didn't proc. Maybe the problem is related with the setting time to activate the augment (not being instant)
Time activate better hope your team is holding up ..
he also had no templar lol ^^
good ones to add while your teams in progression
Ok lets keep an eye on it then 👍
what unit did you have it on?
I know in the past some items have bugged out on rouges
algorithms and putting stuff together like Harry Potter I need a reference chart
I remember it was krunk or blotto, not sure
the "after kill blink to the lowest health enemy" augment is bugged too , it didnt blinked to the lowest and to a higher one
Is anyone able to play Leviathan?
@spring basin how lucky you need to be to get 2 of those augmnts 🥲
I don't think it changed that much. Also, they're not that strong, there are a lot better ones 🙂
they strong wwhen bird can trow tornadoes alot faster
Yeah the longer fight the better 🙏
so I play against 3 players above me in ELO and a 1 win only gives 16 points?
It would be nice to have a breakdown how this works
cause it feels random lol
My guess is that the average of the lobby is still bellow you. If you have a screenshot you can do the math
on the bright side I got 80 fuel so I can't complain 🤣
if I had a search bar I would probably calculate
1269 after the match
so average was a lot under you that's why you got so few points
I wonder how much Fox lost for 5th
you mean average was 1269 after match?
1 loss on place 8 is losing more points than 1 win place 1 gives + 25 games with average place 4.8 ? Is this serious 😄
@worn tree is the ranking system gonna have any changes by any chance ? losing loses too much and wining gives almost nothing ?
i need got 1st place 3 times, and if i get top-5, i lose all points i earn before, just rip 2 hours.
How tf do you get so many Stage 3s? This is what I cant solve for the life of me.
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yep the ranking system is definetly broken. it should be possible to get all points u lose from 8th place from 1st win. I just got 2nd win and im still down bad from 1 8th place and 30 games total its rediculous
what more broken it's weapons, sometimes have to spend 80-100 gold to get stage 2.
fat!
Whisper and coolguy most be bots, they are in almost all my games and always play the same. I guess their elo is very low
How does everyone feel about large... or small drones being used to block opponents field of view?
I find it very frustrating and unsportsmanlike.... while it may be tactically clever it is in no way making the game more fun or enjoyable.
A nice solution would be adding a hot key to hide drones
Again and again..i kicked out Gee...played 2 more rounds..then this: instead of 3rd..the magic leaderboard system said 4th. Nice system @umbral oracle
maybe he had a few omni vamp drone augments
Have to make it past round 24 @fallen vortex)
Lmaoooo, I get past round 24, plz
And when they move it off screen so u cant see their drone augments
I saw them a tonne too.
The favoured tactic I have seen is hiding your fern/fernite behind it so you can't see where the stun is coming from
btw, it's visual bug, you get points like for your place (3rd). i check it.
It takes scrolling my mouse wheel down over three hundred times to look at my amount of games played! Why are there 1000 people with no games played on this list?
yeh its so stupid, people that havn't played a game shouldnt be on there. and maybe even have it require to play 3-5 games to place on leaderboard
these whisper and coolguy always together, seems sus
coolguy 90% sure a bot
I thought the same thing about whisper!
I notice whisper just place a bumch of stage 1 units all across the board,same for you?
I played him 3-4 times yesterday. Can confirm that ad well
yea he seems like it too
Like just dropped by the game when you dont manually do it
Do they get past round 16?
Yeah
Usually?
Raffle hunters
you get raffles for 7/8?
Interesting to see how many raffle tickets they have
No,need to be top 6 but i would imagine maybe half the time they get to 6th place
https://www.youtube.com/live/KUSm7NiTqMI?si=LWsrV15pj92ZM6Qb
If you go to 1hr 5min you can see
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yea true actually
If they are both bot accounts and they are always playing together there is a good chance they get at least 1 in the top 6
yeah, noticed that too, mostly lots of stage 1's early rounds
bad positioning!
you have to place this fad mamma in front of your opponents face!, 😉
@worn tree do u know if we get the new waepon system and carusell this month?
👀
What do you intend to do about this?
If it says April 10th 0:00 UTC, does this mean it goes until 9th 23:59 basically? So the Thursday itself is starting the new week for rewards?
Thats my understanding yes
How long has it been like this?
Not this month Nefer
Yeah, this is probably the worst part of the game at the moment, and I think it should be a top priority. Weapons are such a crucial part of getting your traits, and there's way too much RNG involved right now. I know the team isn’t prioritizing it because the system is going to change, but I don’t think they realize how much of a negative impact this has on skill expression.
are these 2 the last features before fixing?
Nope. We will also deploy forge, pve rewards, scouting, spectator, end screen UI, regions and triple items as well.
oh allright
Do we know approximately when the ranger bonding is coming?
~2 months
what's triple items
I was referring to the prizes, they are no longer valid for Leviathan, for these people to win, no one just has to play, is that it?
.
The reward for leviathan leaderboard is not live yet.
oh sorry I didn't know
An Illuvial can hold 3 Augments instead of 2.
@worn tree A long time ago there was a special update for the PvP arena that prohibited the repetition of legendary augments, why hasn't this system migrated to the current mode?
often the influence of 2 old legendary augmentations breaks the whole system and allows you to get a crazy, and maybe even broken, increase in characteristics
Could you clarify what you mean? I'm not sure I understood you correctly.
Ahh, it was for levithan😬
It was there from the very beginning 😆
I know, it was removed but it’s coming back again
dYa I have noticed that also
Ya and imagine people who drop from game to game
@worn tree Is it a bug or a feature that your win streak ends if apparently your own ghost must have lost the battle? I lost my win streak with 100 HP at some random point even though I didnt lose the round myself
Obviouse bots should be removed from raffles imo, but how to prove it?
@spring basin close one haha
Yeah that one was insanely close^^ My team was so scuffed because I was low rolling like crazy 😅
yeah saw that, you did well catching up though, with the Malura etc
yeah it almost won me the game
was like 0.5 sec away from casting^^
Wp tho!
this other dude had an annoying slashin.. with indomitable
WP to you also
WP?
well played @west plume ?
teach me arena guys
If an opponent dies but there are still 20 seconds left because some players are still finishing their round, do their units instantly go back into the pool or should I wait the end of the round to roll for them?
They return to the pool at the end of the round.
Thanks 🫡
Not sure it functions like that, from experience its quite often i have a ton of gold but cant find a single illuvial i need, and lets say 4 of the players in the battle are out that had that illuvial, and the other players left do not have that illuvial
We’ve got several new systems on the way that will help. You’ll still be able to equip the same Legendary Augments on an Illuvial, but they will become more rare than they currently are.
Why do you say that?
hahaha i think i entered casual
I can't win on ranked lol
here is a good guide to get you advancing. https://youtu.be/U_s6Lkozkc0?si=yTOQDvVxgCJKAzR_
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@topaz lake frost threshold was 65% not 30%, a nerf to 25% makes is completely useless, is it a typo?
Also suprised to see rogues completely untouched after being unviable the past 2 patches
Corner comps have been dominating and only the forst/vanguard fighter could take it over but now without frost and rogues untouched we might live a corner comp nightmare meta
Atleast you guys do fast updates now so lets see how it goes
I don't understand why Scarabok has 350 less health than Flare that's a tier below and fire
Headi has 650 more health than Scarabok
Has to be typos there too
I understand that nature illuvials are supposed to have more health in general but here it has 50% more HP than the T5
and headi 1950
wait why are grokkos buffed they were the best t0 unit already
From the general line of little bit tankier tanks
oh nvm it's not a buff with all the changes
Yeahh I spotted this one 🙂
Fixed an issue causing the Defiant Retribution Legendary Augment to trigger with delay.
Im testing out these new tables
do you guys like the tables better
i may have made a typo
ye it's better
Yes its good
I looked in game and frost is still 65% threshold so idk what this 30 to 25
Yes, it's a typo. It's the effect from T4 (attack speed and movement speed slow)
Actually corner comps die more to a nice phorus omega line and fern hitting them all I feel. Most of the time I don’t even get to frost slashin
Also add scarabok omega to the mix
Yea i think fighters might still be fine with just phorus/fernite
Also frost still exists afterall, its not 25% threshold like it says
We need to make the onboarding process more complicated again. Too many new players, it’s getting harder to win day by day.🙄
The previous threshold was 65 and that didn’t change now?
I can't get it anyway! how can so many new players be that good after a couple of days? is arena a 1 to 1 copy of TFT? or am I stupid? maybe that's the case🤔
whats a typo?
so no more frost comps? 😄
We need to know the real threshold for the shield. 🛡️
frost got buffed this patch
there you go
tables are better, would be nice to have picture next to name of augment changes aswell
yeah, working on that too again
The Frozen Activation. That line was supposed to say 'Threshold 4: Attack Speed and Movement Speed reduced from 30% to 25%.
@topaz lake matchmaking isnt fix, we can still face the same player back to back when we shouldnt
We were 4 players left and i faced the same guy (no ghost) twice in a row
Of course it was also the 1 guy i could lose to and i got 4th instead of 2nd (:
@topaz lake was the frost augment fixed? arctic dominion
Broken
We didn't touch it. What problems does it have?
12k for a s1 unit seems normal 👀
Just saying that a on Stage1 T5 attack speed on Pho was ..... inside... so broken
it doesn't work
it only freezes like 1 in 5 times just like the on vanquish one is supposed to jump on kill but it doesn't 4 in 5 times
Can attest to that when I got @spring basin for the second time after getting floored and then a quick repeat😅 it felt like this
Just twice
I'll look into it. Thanks
it worked perfectly on the first patch, then on the 2nd patch when you changed all the auras to only work with holder alive it stopped working properly
nice to know 👍
DH?
Ok, I think I know what it has. Just to confirm, the augment holder is still alive, right? Also it might be that the closest enemy unit gets all the procs. In any case, I'll have a look tomorrow.
yea with holder alive, but no it just doesn't freeze anything on kills
a lot of the time
The problem seems to be caused by the ally component (when they score a vanquish). The reason it works 'sometimes' is because the holder scores them. It will probably have to wait a bit. 
does anyone know how the augments that affect for example tier 5 units work? does it apply instantly, is it random every round?
if i dont have any tier 5 units when i pick the augment, and then i but and place some, how does it work?
thanks
should be random per round
But only the units on your own team?
Anyone know what we should do when we get infinite loading "searching players" without the x/8 players?
I knew pressing cancel would bug out so i just closed the game but still couldnt get in the game so i got an 8th for it
you need to make all rogues absolutely worthless if they don't have at least a 4 rogue synergy online or something this class is the cancer death of the game slotting one into every best comp
Get good kid
I see you didn t say a word wen you lost like a little girl uh @summer frigate ?
losing vs a low elo like me must hurt a lot..I see
@fallen vortex lovely carabuli
yes sir
Why did bulwark hp get buffed like 1% and attack dmg get nerfed into the ground? lol
nerfed deserved:P
More tanky less dmg, i love it. also the new adjustments. this will be one of the best games, because the team and game and community is amazing
Hey before the right mous button would move the camera around... is that not possible anymore?
GG @bronze spire
you're very strong
I lost with better augments 😄
I agree they did too much dmg, but their tankiness didn't actually get buffed lol
hold ctrl key
Scarabok got 100 hp. It should have got 150, and the others get 75-100
They got only enough to block 1 extra hit, which really isn't much given how much attack speed is in the game
Could be the winning or losing hit xd But you are right, at least the ad is a bit lower right now.
Where to find this Leaderboard?
In game when you click arena
Hoo ingame! Thx
Yeah they are already decently tanky. But they are only tanky with some Augments, they are basically invisible without them.
gg! think i was just lucky to have more hp and rounds to lose, only had to beat you once 😄
Getting second place is not losing 😘
Are 9 illuvials of each type shared through all 8 players in gauntlet?
I am really looking forward to the bonding system coming back so we can see a bit more variation in builds.
Feels a but like everyone is going for the same 10ish illuvials, but add in more accessible ranger synergies and we will unlock some other cool builds
you can find all the nitty gritty details here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1_g_zQRvHB45MxPhCdUJ_bh9acK2A2hfYhJ79RslFsm0/htmlview
and yes, all "cards" come from a shared pool, if someone has all the Rhamphys that means you won't be able to find any.
where Coolguy55 and whispeRr? don't see them today.
Same
Yeah slowly figuring out. I think I should read the guide first, I keep on losing.
https://youtu.be/U_s6Lkozkc0?si=bGsWdFh-LuuMgCAr
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illuvium slowing my pc down like crazy since a patch ago. Same for anyone else and any fixes?
often miss first 2 pve rounds loading in too
I've had a couple weird crashes I had to reboot after to get it to run again. Didn't notice any slowdown though yet.
Your name was greyed out for the first couple rounds that last match we had... I assume that's what happens when people are disconnected?
Same me & a few others have brought it up in here
Right after the patch i could get in a game. Now I can bit first round is hot or miss
yea didnt even disconnect though just hadnt loaded in yet haha
Weird stuff... 🥳
Frost nerfed... 50 patches and can't nerf the ez pz Tanky wall Psion strat... meh... copy build is real...
They could have left it for a little longer, the frost build didn't last more than 2 weeks, then we went back to the same corner barrier. It's all about the goal. Find a good team and use it, then nerf it and you have to find another one to nerf it...
yeah, game feels meh, everybody using the same dang corner strat without a drop of brain
but well, it works because there is not a single build stronger than that, and if there is, you have to get insanely lucky to complete it and tank all that damage.
trash meta tbh
those corner strats are easy to beat lol
depend of corner
yeah sure, no kidding top 5 players play that strat
It takes a little time for the trends to shift
idk, half the buffs is a BIG thing
who won between u and web3 last game? i was 3rd that match ahha
most recent one me, one bfore that him
yea takes time for meta to shift like drach said
omg how did you break his tanks haha
I liked the previous dynamic of 9 units of a single element, it seemed like they had at least 5 choices for the game. With the change of gamer, these builds don't work as well as before.
2-1 at me for today
the current meta possibly comes back with the idea of wildfire, or something like that since it is also a corner team,
true
i had a lot of damage haha
I only played 2 games today, the first one of the day I played against Slick and I got 6th, I got discouraged right away, even more after seeing the announcement of the Frost nerf, lol I played about 15 games in secondary, I had managed to get about 12 first and about 3 seconds later I lost some more lol I had already gotten the idea of the build
they buffed frost more than they nerfed it
Is it still working well?
Well, the only thing i know is that is taking 3times longer to queee for a game...
They removed the bots, it's a shame, lol, it was cool to farm points on them, lol
i think playerbase didnt respond good to this patch... people start to understand the meta and the game and we just change it every 2 weeks XD
bro the pervious meta was literally bugged and broken
you see change I see improvement 😄 right now the team is still working towards implementing features, fixing bugs, and getting a good baseline of balance
they just need to make rogues unsplashable and touch fernite and we got a good game
what i'm curious about is once we have a perfect game. how are we gonna mix up the meta? since new illuvials will only be introduced very rarely, are we just gonna do random small balance changes to change meta instead of changing the whole set like tft? @worn tree
you can never have a perfect balance
i mean just once everything is implemented and bug free and we don't "need" to change anything anymore, are we just gonna buff and nerf units around randomly to shift meta around to keep it interesting? not sure how we gonna save ourselves from a long stale meta without íntroducing new units and stuff
Can't share any details on this yet. 🙏🏻
that's fair. I'm sure you guys cooking something up, instead of just random balance changes for the sake of balance changes. Stoked for the future
So is it a typo now that scarabok has way less HP than other bulwarks or is this the case
I don't understand this here, the guy's bear didn't decrease his life in any way with phosfurus and a ryplance on it
I played the same guy basically 3 times in the row while we were last 4 people. So weird
i couldnt stand this meta, was so brain dead just hoping you picked the right affinity to counter the other team doing the same thing with hyper. Made me quit illuvium for a few months
is it just me or something with illuvial rates in shop feels off , sometimes im the only one going for an comp or illuvial and i still only see all other illuvials in shop which the whole lobby is going for
ive had the same feeling, sometimes its so bad its unbelievable, It never used to feel like this
@topaz lake How does Elo work with matchmaking and points?
yeah kinda weird
It takes forever to climb 😭
Crashes are less frequent but still happening
i useed to have crashes every 2 games i haven't had one since the 2nd last patch
Regarding Rating points: you gain or lose points depending on the place you end up on.
There is a number of Base Points you receive for each place that is adjusted depending on the average rating of the whole lobby.
And there is also a minimum for each place, so you can't lose points as rank 4, or gain points as rank 6.
Regarding matchmaking: the limit is really lenient at the moment, so high-elo players can get matched with low-elo players too. This is needed for now so we don't search for a match for too long. The rating system will take care to balance things out as low-elo players will win more points for beating high-elo players.
Nope, I was just giving some broad examples
you can't gain rating points at ranks 5-8
So many cheap ass players blocking battleboard with there drone.... who on ILV team thought it was a good idea to move drone to interfare with gameplay..
Would love to see a function where you could pay fuel to not match with certain individuals😃
You really need to prioritize fixing the matchmaking. I faced the same player four times in a row, while another player gets free wins because he can position himself against the ghost. This issue is more important than whatever else you're working on and should have been addressed in the patch notes a long time ago! @worn tree @wide aspen @topaz lake
I had that happen to me too quite frequently. So annoying
Yeah, it's really common and game-breaking. It shouldn't be that hard to fix.
I also have the feeling that illuvials dont return to the shop correctly after someone is defeated. I was only left with 1 guy and he had no pho whatsoever. I rolled 70 gold and havent seen a single pho and I was at level 9
Both the weapon and hero pools can bug out. Sometimes, players can get 1 T4 Stage 3 each, which shouldn't be possible with the current hero pool.
Thats the most frustrating thing to me. How often I miss out on one weapon or illuvial even though there should be plenty in the pool
Yeah, I agree, but that's probably more complicated and not easy to fix. I'm not sure if it's a server desync issue or something else.
Bonding will at least solve the weapon issue I guess
But they probably need to up the number of weapons in the pool and increase the odds for certain tiers. This would reduce a lot of the RNG we currently have with weapons.
How many weapons are there anyway in the pool? Like how many frost weapons for example
they just need to rework it completely this current system is ass
vacation time sorry
@hot pond I said this the first time like 4 months ago but @worn tree said : "no Quants, works as expected"...you remember @dawn isle ?
Yeah but that's 2 months away so we need a short term fix for this.
If they just add more weapons to the pool and increase the chances of tier weapons at certain levels, that would fix things and make the game better and easier to implement
but it's a waste of dev time cuz if u increase the pool of weapons u're not really fixing anything it's still gonna take the same rng
No because lets say you roll for frost weapon on 6 and you increase the chance more ppl will hit.
and it wont be like 70 gold average^^
Hey, when you reported this last time in-game? without reports, I cannot gather any data and provide it to the team
did this seriously not get reported once? i told u about this on testnet
like a month ago
this didn't happen 4 months ago this got introduced with the last big testnet thing
at least to this extent
It did and they know about it, but they didn't realize how game-breaking it is, so it's a low priority for them
? the units not going back into the shop is not recent
ahhh i thought u're talking about the matchamking, my bad
ye the units we've been reporting for 4 months of 2 scorioxes
ok actually yea just changing appearance rates per level to something like 50-70% for a tier at certain level might do it
How to you call the drone choice not the augment one but the other with circle when ingame ?
DroneChip ?
Augment for drone augments and items for "normal augment"
Like in TFT
+1
classic
The sacrifice!
Yes, the issue of Illuvials not returning to the shop was identified in the earliest builds of Gauntlet, and now it seems to be happening again.
I think it was never solved tbh
GM!
Yes this very highly reduce the players experience and increase RNG
Game is trash atm to be honest. Queee like 10mins +, everybody with the repetitive corner strat... you'll get top 10-20 players playing in no time. This patch is really a downgrade, it's like going back in time .
I know you wanna balance things but i think that , like i said before, changing things like 4 times a month because your loyal 4 players with no life complain is not really an improvement.
hhahahaha so true..i ll screenshot this..."a real GEM"
lolz, the effects of the buffs changed, been using them based ont he icon and thought still same effects

I have a question, the drone augments that boost Tier 3, 4, 5, do they also apply to the ranger if he gets a weapon, lets say tier 3?
or are they exclusive to illuvials?
Exclusive to Illuvials
I just had a match with 7 opponents being AI probably lol. They all had T0 illuvitars and had random augment choices etc. Basically still wasted 30min of my life as the 1st place gave me 0 elo
and you're completely sure u weren't in casual cuz u're supposed to hard cap +13 for 1st
Well that might be because i left the queue at 7/8 and had a bug happen again so maybe I misclicked to enter casual to get back into a match idk
Is the Fludd supposed to actually do anything or is it completely bugged? Anytime I've ever tried to play anything from that line they just sit there and hide their face. Is it supposed to be just a sit still and hope it's omega goes off illuvial?
yes, its a healer with omega and generates energy just by standing 😄
And getting hammered🥲
Poor guy
Like built for one thing
And that
I'd be curious to know what people mean by a balanced autobattler. As far as I'm aware such a thing does not exist and never has done.
And if it has existed it likely never got passed testing because it was probably soul suckingly boring 😅
a good balance is more meant like alot of different comps are playable and the depthness of the game is at a point that the most skillfull players have the highest chances of winning
will there be a rating reset after the snapshot?
no
it's a pity, how difficult it is to catch up with you))
Even if there was a reset we couldnt catch up, its highly based on grind, especially in the first week
I'm not claiming the top spots, but the gap is getting very big. I would say unattainable. it might scare people away in my opinion.
I'm running out of words, and I've only got 980 points in the arena 😅, but I'm still pushing through and playing!
Maybe the minimum +13 is the problem here
I fear it only started, even hundreds points above everyone slickz and hollow keep printing 13 points per game non stop and will continue to do so indefinitely
ye but then one 5th is -100
also there's 3 days decay and there's no way we can keep perma playing 12 hours a day for 100$ a week
But you dont because playerbase is low but still big enough that its full of new people so 80% of the people you face are like 10 times worst then you
Yea theres that, its not worth it now but it will be down the line
When its worth it though hopefully that will bring in some competition
that's why they have the ghost games to give you a free 8th
Yea i got it yesterday, not too bad for me cause im still just a couple games in but its so unfortunate for people competing. Hope they can fix it soon 🙏
For these guys, there is no difference whether there is a score reset or not. they will take their places anyway. It's just that the points gap won't look so crazy.
The difference of 1000 points looks crazy and it's in 1 week
the thing is the higher the difference the more points lower elo players get per win
so it's not really that big of a deal for someone who can actually get those places to jump in right now
There's a maximum you can get.
if I start playing, for example, only next season, then there is no chance of getting into the top in principle. There's not enough time
in general, this is not a problem, just an opinion. But since there won't be a reset, I'll go play some more.
these patch notes came 7 days too late
wtf is it
i've been laughing for 5 minutes
5 attack dmg buff to fighter is a bigger deal than this
what are you guys talking about? we should reset the leader board, because you guys can't beat slics! seriously?
ye
they buff strong comps
wtf for what
this is legit so funny
Could be based on win rates. A lot of ppl playing fighters now which means a lot of them will get bot 4
it's definetly not based on playing

fighters is legit the only comp in the game
I think so but its bad approach
Agree and I've brought this up more times than I can count.
Are ques getting slower btw?
I'm always so scared sitting at 7/8 players 😅
all forget about rogues
stop winning, otherwise you might get burned!
the empath nerf is crazy btw, worst class in the game by far
true
yep very strange patch
Well let's play frost vanguards again 😁
Strange patch indeed
I loved the meta we had just after the ranger was implemented
We had 3 big comps:
- Psion corner
- Fighters berserkers (sometimes arcanite)
- Air rogues
Psions teams were a bit diverse as well
Here we have fighter frost vanguard and corner comps
ty for the bugfixes but would've been good to have just that KEKW
also if u could fix the shit that literally no one wants where you just sell ur unit trying to move it that would be great
Whats up with the fighter buff? 😂
is anyone noticing fern ult doing more dmg than before the patch?
Nope, but I can keep an eye on it
4/8 rank
Has anyone been playing on steamdeck?
gg @spring basin , was really intense 🫡
GG Yeah it was close! I think hero pool was bugged tho. Rolled like 200 gold on 8 and only thing I found was 1 phorus last round 
same..was rolling like a madman to get the damned pengu
@fallen vortex maybe
When you are rolling like crazy trying to get the Illuvial that may save your life for at least one more round and then you start playing and see it being used by your opponent.
Played over a dozen matches on the Steam Deck now. Even beat quants from it last night
Yeah has anyone else noticed that everyone's team looks identical at the end of the game, every game?
I think bonding and weapons overhaul helps fix this, cause rn it's mostly dictated by weapon guaranteed composites.
Pretty easy to get it working?
Yeah, the only issue I found is launching it through steam mode gets messy with the passport login. But running it from desktop mode works a treat
Just YouTube 'run epic games on steam deck'.
It'll show U how to get the heroic launcher and stuff, pretty easy after that
Do you think that they are purposefully maintaining an unbalanced meta because they think that it will be balanced once bonding is implemented?
they send small balanced patches every 2-4 days now, bonding come in 1-2 month. so - ye, lets go play fighter untill that.
7/8
But you always use corner tank psion on me 
my choice what play depend of what other people in lobby ussualy play. if it's 6-7 fighter players - then yes - i pick it.
i mean idk if I'd call it unbalanced. Hard to say what the real problem is tbh, Fighters are the only class in the game that does damage, Bulwarks dont, empaths dont really and psions are still doing decently (with the right frontline). Fighters also have all the easy synergies such as Bloom, Frost, Arcanite. The core problem is actually that we have say 6 available fighters, 4-5 of which are high enough tier to use. So every team will look the same no matter what.
What about the 5th class?
Some of the utility synergies are actually really good, Tsunami, 3 Mystic and so on. But until we get more tools, we cannot achieve them
Rogues get hard countered by Fighter, so they r in a weird spot
Except for Rhamphyre specifically, hence its popularity
They were crazy strong when they had +70% crit chance a month ago but now they are super weak
Also Rogue is dominated by Tier 1 Illuvials, so they r a bit weaker naturally
Rogues can't be somewhere in the middle. Since they can't counter Psions they suck
Rota was OP back in summer 2024, now after getting nerfed 3 times it's one of the worst T1 if not the worst
THey are either too good, or lose to both Psion and Fighter when balanced
When the ranger was implemented the meta had rogues in it and it was doing well
If you changed the way they worked so they could actually isolate and defeat individual targets, it would fix the games balance a lot
It was not too strong either
Whenever they do well, its not balanced
Its impossible
It was air rogues, corner psion and fighter berserker at the time
The classic game triangle is fighters > rogues > psions > fighters
but air rogues weak.
so it's mostly around 2 build.
But because of the game mechanics they can't stop psions and so they r useless
Rhamphyre can tho
hence his prevalence
fire/water/nature - not work. empath - not work. full psion - not work.
They need to change what water does, energy regen is simply not that good. Since attack speed outpaces it every time
but ye, lets go buff fighters more a bit. xD
yeah fighter with different builds and psion with right frontline (against fighters) are the only 2 comps atm
I insist, back when the ranger just got implemented we had an amazing balance
You could play fighter or psion or rogue and you had decent chance of winning with any of them if you played well
Psion is particularly bad because it cant hit any synergies except Granite
tsunami - full garbage
We had bonding then tho didnt we?
in 2 month?
It opened up way more
we talk about current meta
No we had weapons with composites I think
u can play blazenite and krunk / blotto in psion too so wildfire also
Yeah true, Wildfire is strong
But thats half cause Fernite is mental
Probably best illuvial in the game rn
I'm not a specialist in balancing a game but I think that you can make all of the classes relevant at the same time
wildfire strong if you have "goldfish". other way you got melted by pinguin
both birds are broken atm
It's all about freedom of choice
If 5 players all go fighter, they can all hit major synergies
if 2 players go rogue, neither of them can
once this is resolved, we will see a way more interesting meta
Actually it's possible for 2 rogue players to get all of their T1 and T3 synergies
One of them won't have slayer though
A mixture of other players will pick up a few grillas and what not. You see my point
From general cost and efficiency, Fighter is the only pathway
Rogues have predators and revenant as well
Predator is the easiest class composite to get in the game
2 T1S2
And revenant is easy too, T1S2 + T3S2
Dust too
They were all nerfed into the ground
also it might be bugged
tiru isnt in my pool
That's my point haha
We agree on this 🤝
Yeah but even if they get buffed. Psion doesn't have much
And Fighters are supposed to counter Rogues
So Fighters still become dominant no?
6/8
I think that the game should be balanced in a way that makes all of the main DD classes capable of beating one another
I don't think that it's a good idea to engineer a rock paper scissor system where if you go for a specific comp you will get hard countered by another
We already have affinities for that and hyper got nerfed
Psion is doing okay especially if you hit your S3s
A fighter nerf and a rogue buff would go a long way if we want to have a more enjoyable meta imo
Yea all thats needed is nerf phorus a bit, revert the 5% on fighter that just happened today and buff rogues a bit again
More atk dmg on Rota's line, faster casts on Vermillia and Rhamphy's line with a micro 7 rogues buff (+2% or something) would be a good start, maybe even good enough
that and the new waepon system + fixing shop bug ( and i think the 4 thresholds for every synergy are completly random , some are op some are completly useless )
fernite also def need a nerf
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tbh the balance isnt even that important , the new waepon system is prob the biggest thing cause alot of comp which couldnt be played could be unlocked with that and fixing the disgusting shop desync or bug where u get always the same illuvials
We should seriously fix hyper imo. Make it absolutely savage, it'd be so fun playing against your opponents with it.
Im a bit confused by the rogue nerf and a fighter buff considering frost fighter comps are clearly dominating the meta and rogue heavy comps are getting nowhere near the same usage
'if you hit your S3s' is the exact problem. Any comp that relies on that level of luck/rng will always have the worse winrate than something easier to achieve that's almost as strong
There's a shop bug?
You are not or you are? 😄
I just want to say is where is my frost weapon when I need it. 
Oops haha yeah I meant im confused by it
that frost weapon is like the avatar when i need it the most it vanished.
4/8
In a block of ice
hold shift
I think I tried that, but thank you! I will try again.
Tried it ... Doesn't work
it doesn't actually do anything at all.
I'm not going to play next week I'm seriously frustrated. The top 5 players keep ending up in my matches over and over, repeatedly forcing fighter comps. Because of that, I dropped from rank 20 to 32. Fighters were already strong, and they got even more buffs. No matter what comp I run, fighters just wipe my whole team in 15 seconds since the patch.
The drone augment that gives 36% HP after 20 seconds has become a useless piece of garbage
it does nothing because no fight lasts that long anymore. Before the patch, I could easily hit top 3 or even 1st place. Now, unless you force fighters, it's hard to even break into top 4.
Even if they can't finish the full comp, a single 5-gold dumb bird with two augments can delete my entire team yes just one bird wipes everything.
wierd works for me
you literally called the problem after saying hard to say xD, autoattackers are just miles better cuz the fights are almost over before a psion even casts and even when they do they barely deal dmg and you have no way to position them vs malura+pho+fern
It lets you see what their omega power does? Screenshot please!
dont work for me aswell, same with weapons no clue what they give when you upgrade them