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Sir, do rewards continue until the end of the month?
They will continue until we release the new mode. And it's not confirmed we will stop them. It's a marketing call. But I'll push strongly to stop rewards for the first 2 weeks of the new release. And include a full rating reset.
Then let you all go ham.
Exquisite, thx for the info. Really excited for this.
I play some autochess.I don't want ILV become 8player as TFT.ILV is very fine system and game concept.you can try patch for more Esports or more fun before change game concept. this game is fine.
The game that's coming out this month is just an improvement to the existing 1 v1 mode.
The long term game mode we are developing is a multiplayer mode. But we think there will be people that like both so it makes sense to have them both since they hit different markets. It's not a lot of time to add it, all things considered.
Love to hear it Aaron! Great work!🙌🏻🙏🏻
Def dont scrap the 1v1 for e-sport purposes 🙂
Im excited about that multiplayer, illuvium is getting more fun
work has been busy (work full time) and between trying to practice/find new meta for ladder and get the games in than coach my brother ive had very little time but going to prioritise it more going forward
@worn tree wow what a run! congrats man
Can we give him extra ILV for making smartass break his computer?
Thank you brother ❤️
Hahahahhaha did Smartass rly uninstall? I think he kept on playing after lose streaking against me
haha no idea I guess his used to tilting back to gold so probs fine
hahahahahahaha, most likely 🤣
love to hear this 🙂
@vague karma Did you surrender? Let me give you a game back
Oh wow my account is unable to start games, I have lost twice in a row. I have the loading game buffer stuck every time I find a game, but if I click on the back button it makes me surrender or something... Just lost 80 points in 5 minutes 🙂
I'm scared to try a 3rd time...
yeah, I surrendered
💔
I wanna done 15 game
is Warpwave bugged? its not casting
Did the illuvial with the augment die before the 7 seconds?
nope
I notice that bug, it sometimes be like that when attached to rogues/slayers etc. the ones that teleport
Can we get hints of what it will be like ? 😊
Likely that rewards will be paused with the new game mode testing coming. We will have official announcement on it soon. But excited to have a new mode too.
Just received this, that’s a scam right ?
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They probably sent it to a lot of people so beware
Scam yes
Yes also received that one
@next flame why am I always playing you when testing weird decks with my smurf? You farm elo on me xD
Anyone's got an idea of how to build a good team in today's survival? I'm pretty much stuck with today's illuvials
I know most don't play survival anymore but my crappy pc is giving me trouble with pvp so survival is all I got until I fix it
@worn tree go tag i wanna do some mirrors 😄
Sure, I am in game now. I will let you know and we search match at the same time
So the "new" way the units gain energy when being attacked definately works.. when rhamphyre is attacked by 5 small fighter units (pho, lesser monkier, nature doka, relentless floralynx and ranger with nature sword) it will still cast before even getting remotely close to death. That sounds a little too harsh doesn't it? So it is not possible for small units to take down rhamphyre at all because as soon as it casts everything dies. There were no augments involved
making a unit not cast once is very difficult now, but one could also put 2 rogues next to it and it would likely get the cast and kill the small fighters anyways
yeah, that for sure. I was just a little baffled that even without the rogues there was no chance
@west quartz when you answer this message, i click search match
there we go hahaah
Imagine a rhamphyre in the wild sees those little buggers and gets humilated by them...
No, he smirks... casts a Ring of fire and maybe eats one of them afterwards
gg brother!
do you stop playing ?
No, want another one?
yh keep going
when you answer this message i click
go
Something changed after last patch??
What is blind?
Bug report: there is an issue with the undo button. If after doing an action, you click your item list, but do nothing with the selected item, when you click undo, last binding action is not undone.
@topaz lake when we stack several rogues on the same vertical line, how does tghe game determines which unit will land in the exact opposite position and which unit will be moved ?
you can't auto attack
you do not wanna ask this rn xD
Thanks bro i love your contribution to the real farm!
When they change the games played for rewards to 50 games or more then you wont have to play your smurf! 🙂
nobody wants tyo play 50 games atm
cut off for top 10 would be at 1400 lmao
Is the snapshot list from yesterday already known?
I play way more than 50 games cause I enjoy the game heaps of fun testing stuff out! Maybe they should reward games played lol
That's basically now already, need to play at least 15 games
Do we have a confirmed date when leaderboard rewards will stop? So I have less reason to play this cancer meta 😂😂
You got 4 accounts so that's only 60 games right?
3 accounts, so 45 games
New mode soon, then 1-2 weeks no rewards afaik
Same same save you time changing accounts then with 50 games??
not yet
how das energy resist and physical resist actually work? For example: having 7 bulwarks they get 120 resist? Wou
Wouldnt that make them invincible?
exactly what I needed, thanks a lot!
Arena Starter Guide
https://youtu.be/VGZc9LTF1VM?si=xY8Cy2V8RNw5zRSL
Learn how to play Illuvium PvP with our Ascendant Arena Starter Guide! 🔥PLAY ON EPIC GAMES STORE: http://link.illuvium.io/epic-games
00:00 Intro
00:12 Ascendant: Arena Game Modes
01:00 Illuvium Team Builder
01:19 What are Illuvials?
01:29 Illuvial Abilities
01:45 What are Augments?
02:01 Master Points
02:20 Affinities & Classes
02:41 Synergies...
blind means autos do no dmg, think they still give energy, disarm is you can´t auto as far as I am aware
1 point of resistance gives you 1% extra effective hp
e.g. 1000hp, 0 resistance, you need 1000dmg, with 50 resistance you need 1500, aka 33% dmg reduction, 100 resistance 2000 dmg, aka 50%, 200 resiatance 3000dmg, aka 66% reduction
Quickly update it, I want to play !!!
sad day for sure
Hi everyone! 🫡
How can I see my place on the leaderboard?
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only top600? i dont see my place( (i have 1090 points)
Last time top 1000 started at 1372 afaik
You can scroll down until you see your rank
yeah can keep scrolling
@dark scaffold idk who else to tag sry, seems like you can´t scroll further than 601 on leaderboard atm
checking on my end
Top600 won't let me look here anymore
I refreshed the page and even tried to connect VPN O_O
I can scroll further but from rank600 there is a Big gap to Like 1400
interesting I can´t go deeper than 601
It is Like that since i started playing Arena again last weekend
yup, same here, creating bug report for the team as we speak 🫡
the bot got josh sadge
it got me recently as well
don´t know why
😦
I refuse to play ramphyre carry or hedgehogs lame af. Waiting for update.
Play something else and gimme Ranking points 🤪
I have been,
many alt f4s have occured.
soon end of month 
You Start playing the smurf game?
What,no
It's a friend asking
soooo
what rank does new people start at?
750
really
My friend is way higher than that
was hoping for like a nice 1500
So I tried playing 2 matches yesterday. But I came against people in like 300 elo and gained 1 poiny
Anyone know what thats about?
yep
no one wants to play this sh*tty meta
so q is empty
300 is so low that they dont find anyone so anyone quite low will get them
so you play your coinflip with an outcome of +8 -27
Got it sorted
only seen 2 people above 1800 play today
New players starts at 750 and i just lost a match because i was in here.
new team i made.
i hope i get matched with @proven coral
what elo is top 400 at right now?
low
so i have a chance if i grind then 😆
Just play 15 games and you will be in top 400
yeah that should be enough
I don’t even care about it anymore. Just trying out random things right now. I refuse to use those rats
Are there rewards for being top of leaderboard
come give me your elo i need 3 more win before i can stop this madness 🙏🏼
I literally went from plat with 1850 to 1450 in silver right now. Such a joke meta 😂
nice perf
I think I gave away enough Elo like this already
in a single day i did 1824 > 1550 > 1790
Hahahahahhahahahhaha
and i got none of it :/
I think I know why 🤔
enlighten me
🤫
I pushed my smurf from 1300 to 1850 in a couple days 💪🏻
Finally got it to a decent level
🤷♂️
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gotta love having to win 3 games to make up for 1 loss
aaaaaaand we're back 3 games behind.
You wanna give me elo?
dude i'm feeding the whole ladder all day
around 1400
me too 1750 > 1000 > 1500> 1600> 1450
See you down sir haha
SA coaching starting to pay up 😂
the good news since it's random you just have to grind until you get a lucky draw
just made the -250 +250 24 hour challenge
it's excrutiating, but at least you know it eventually comes back up
Wen hotfix to inferno/dust ? 🌚
aaron said we'll get the new game mode by end of month and apparently there won't be any fix until then
they're also discussing stopping the leaderboard reward
haven't play the game in a while, but does composite classes no longer add the threshold count for their primary class?
They do. Maybe you have Illuvials of the same line
i just checked, a granite unit doesn't add the count for earth synergy
@next flame got lucky there! My Gyro somehow twice started to roll and did not do the omega at all and stopped xD gg
Hey mate I didn't see that happened hope you sent a bug report for it! Make illuvium greater! GG WP
they should put on where they post the leaderboard, the rating of each player so we know how much is the last place or something
i have no idea if i was close or not
I cant even play 15 games. It's just people with 300 rating back to back.
I just wanna test my updated team against dust revenant
I did send a bug report 👍 that's what the beta is for
everything outside of rhamphyre, that is remotely real beats that team
All I needed to hear 😛
is your team remotely real? 😅
Its Rhamphyre but I am building a secondary mode into it
Just knowing the second mode doesnt need much
is enuf
ring timer is little bit short.
Amount of health regen for verdant is too many or too fast.
Update: it didn't really work. Although going a colossus verdant mode against revenant dust was highly effective it cost them basically nothing to switch 1 illuvial into rhamphyre and swap weapon, since inferno single handedly wipes it. My normal rhamphyre mode wins against this but it costs me about 3x more to pivot and cover my bases. It's simply too expensive for me to avoid being melted by rhamphyre.
I think a new strategy might be adding colossus verdant to fit in with my existing team so it's not so expensive and at the very least give me a 50/50 against dust rev. I have some ideas, even titanor/gnarl/archeleon should just win on their own
that´s just how it is atm, rhamphyre beats more or less everything that beats the revenant team, so you flip coin on which team they play/you play next turn, as swapping team even with mastery point penalty outperforms, due to polarizing matchups
Yeah can u explain why they broke inferno to help counter bulwarks instead of just nerfing bulwarks?
Statistically u can just look at the inferno update and ask yourself if it's the right thing to do
Is there a bug fix in the works for the survival mode where the frames per second drop drastically the further you go? waves 20+ drop down to 30 fps ish and get even lower by wave 30.
rhampyhre wasn´t a real unit before buff to it+ inferno, trying a buff only makes sense, the addition of the energy gain from damage makes it hard for meele stuff to kill it now though, Inferno itself etc. is prob fine or close to it
if we had more composites without ranger bonding things might just be okay as well, shock could be good to snipe ranger/rhamph or small rogues protectinc it/spread your team, having enchanter without ranger bonding could give more shield/damage, having dust without bonding would force rhamph into immune augment while you could have another wincon and rhamph is weaker due to augment etc.
if rhamph misses omega it still isn´t that good a unit, otherwise we´d play inferno without revenant/phantom
I'd argue I am winning off inferno. Not so much Rhamph omega
issues for stuff like invokers imo is they don´t have good 20-40 cost augment options and their early game is too weak after recent nerfs compared to when we played them and they had okay turns 2-4
But I agree a lack of options is making the game worse than it would be
inferno itself would do nothing to any enchanter/verdant/mystic/healing setup
we also don´t have any good ranged carry options atm
which would be good vs rhamphyre to some extend
after gauntlet/arcanite/invoker are rip
imo issue is we do have a good rock paper scossors setup, like we had most patches, but now it is optimal to play 2+ out of those 3 in one team with almost no downside, so everything is guess the right polarizing teamcomp and that strat is better than e.g. core team + slight techs and more lategame, as extra lategame doesn´t matter due to how polarizing the matchups are
I suppose that's fair. My colossus verdant died to the omega. But with the change to gain on being attacked its practically impossible to eliminate rhamphyre pre cast and it heals so much from it's omega
@fallen vortex , you got it all right. Question is if the team will bother on hot fixing this before new game mode or not.
We will probably not hot fix anything since I've given them an unreasonable goal and they have all said they will hit it.
The goal now is to get the new ruleset out to you ASAP and let you play with it, warts and all.
I know some people won't like everything, but we're pretty sure that we are going in the right direction.
Probably one of the scarier things we are doing is saying you have to own a whole line to be able to play it. We don't HAVE to do this, but it simplifies a decent amount and makes the team builder a nicer experience.
Sounds great to me Aaron! New mode is top prio as current game, while I love it, I know it won't hit mass adoption.
Hmmm owning a whole line is very rough. Too much frition perhaps for users. Good to know you can adjust this
That's fair because internally I don't think anyone loves the old mode. The new rules do make matches more dynamic, and they flow a bit better. (A bit slower too). There are other things we are thinking about, but that won't go in this update because we don't want to do work that we think MIGHT be wasted.
All the features we are releasing we think are going to be enjoyed by most.
Super exciting. Pretty sure this new game mode will bring in more game variability and ability to pivot in-game.
It's actually not quite as crazy as you think. First of all, non holos we don't want to be SUPER expensive. Secondly remember that to own a whole line you'd need 13 stage 1. To own the Stage 3 you need 9. So we're not talking about a huge increase.
You guys know it better than anyone, I trust your judgement
Well we trust you guys. So that's why we're trying to get something out soon.
Hahahahah, in trust we trust!!! Can't wait to test new game mode and provide my honest feedback!!
Then you can tell us what you like and don't. As I said, there are other things we'd like to do, or at least consider doing so we will first see how close we are to a good system before we build those.
Is there harm in telling the community how it works so we can provide feedback before actually building it? Even if it's minor stuff? Does it slow the dev process too much idk haha
It can obstruct it because just telling people what we are doing isn't really enough for people to fully get what the changes might mean. I'm not saying that in a condescending way. It's just that sometimes little things get lost when you aren't playing it. And we're trying to build fast enough that we don't stop to wait for feedback from people that won't get their hands on it until after the internal testing.
However, we have build the things now so there's not really any harm. One of the main points is were taking Augments out of the team builder. They are no longer an NFT that you build. Instead, they are simply part of the game. Similar to legendary augments, except you'll get a random set of 3 to choose between and have to pick one. (Your opponent will get a different set of 3). This is how Augments get into your hand now.
So team builder is faster since you don't have to worry about this. And the games are more dynamic since you can't just pick the perfect augments. There are also many more of them and they are simpler.
Hyper also has some changes to make it more impactful, where you get both a ramp up and a boost when you hit 100%.
Also Dominant Synergies are more predicable. They have been simplified so the later stages in the line always have the same as the stage 1. We found through testing almost nobody was picking the 'worse' version and there weren't many times when both where very viable. So this does drop complexity in favour of making easier for people to start.
a lot of luck in the augments 👀
Each augment is useful, so it's more about being able to adapt better than your opponent. One of the things that needs improvement in the current game is how similar most matches are. It's pretty stale. There's some ways to help it out, like giving rerolls but we haven't implemented that just because we want to see how it is "raw" before working on any possible QOL.
In any case, we have a few people on the team that are very high level players and even they find this much better. Because learning to adapt is a skill, and it's harder to adapt if you just tunnel onto one comp. We don't want that. We want varied matches.
@cyan olive your opinion ?
The final change is about the flow of the game. You cannot just plonk down a stage 3. Which makes your team carousel much cleaner and flow more nicely.
I like this
You have to start small, and build out from there. Building up a team is something people tend to really like, and ours isn't quite as 'buildy' as other games. It's not TFT or Underlords, but it does increase the feeling of building towards something fun and powerful.
But sounds Like a Big pivot in the direction of tft... Which isn't Bad imo, they made some good fewtures
I think this is a great change
BIG
Give us a few weeks.
I am looking forward to it
If Augments aren’t NFTs that can be built, does that mean essences from plants will be eliminated from OW? Or will there be a new use for them in crafting?
New use for them.
They had other planned uses too.
I saw great earning potential in gathering essences and crafting augments to sell, I hope the new uses for essences can be just as impactful and needed by players.
Idk how the choosing between 3 thing is gonna go but I feel like removing augments from the team builder is going to be a huge win for all the reasons you just said. It's a shame your augments won't carry over from the overworld but the promise is to have illuvials represented in all games. Maintaining that focus is a net positive imo.
Thanks for everything you shared I really appreciate it
I mean to capture more rare illuvials you'll need to use augments to assist in your adventures. I think that's enough imo
He said they no longer nfts, i doubt they going to be used in OW as they are now
True true. I mean there's something to be said about having 'too many collections'. When a project has 10 collections it tends to be ultra confusing and painful. Less clutter is good
Probably. I Like the depth it offers me, but i guess many feel overwhelmed
Man, this looks so fucking promising. My thoughts in a nutshell are:
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Team builder complexity reduction is super important for player onboarding. Keeping it is also very important as the collection aspect is rock solid in illuvium's IP and blockchain tech. Pivoting towards simpler teambuilder is a key step imho.
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In-game augments synergyzes with the above and open game variability. Just great. It is important than augments are well balanced though. Current legendary augments are far from being balanced.
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Super in favor of buffing hyper. Increases the importance of composition development and won't allow for one trick pony comps as a full hyper enemy board should smash even the strongest meta.
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Good simplification on dominant synergies. Maybe I will miss it some times but all in all it is what it is and its a net positive.
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And finally, the fact that you have to develop the board to reach higher stage illuvials with lower stage one first is extremely interesting. This kills the capacity to fully pivot teams.
The game will change a lot from now with all of these changes. Deciding which way you go in the early game will strongly impact in the matchup development.
Very promising!!!
@vague karma lol, while I was writting all of this I was afk and I just gave you 35 elo 😄
Only comment I will make is that pivoting is still very much possible and in some ways easier.
Suits Weapons Illuvials is going to be our main focus for interporability. There's other things that go between games, but these are the core items.
I see. Really curious to see the details. I shall wait 😄
So we’ll still face the possibility of a full comp swap, but not in a single turn right ?
Yeah pretty close to that. In any case have a good morning/day/night and we will let you know when it's scheduled to release soon. Like I said, give us a few weeks.
Yes as long as it is not in a single turn
Yup, the issue with the comp swap is the flippy side of making the full swap in a turn, having to take several turns to swap seems good
Really like these changes @noble radish , looking forward to playing it
We're gonna test it all out and send all the bugs that we can find to refine it to perfection! lets go haha
Let's be honest. You're going to spend the two weeks trying to get as good as possible for when rewards kick back in so you're up the top of the leaderboard.
really cool, so good that you listen to our feedback and came up with new ideas
TBH a lot of these were things we were thinking before we even released it, but we wanted to get it out to you guys first. There have been plenty of changes from the community though.
😦
Yup, that’s exactly what we’re gonna do 😂
swap 7 psion 👀 😢
some keyboards will be smashed
I actually noticed this in overworld. I like the new UI with the Arrows makes it easier to understand. Excited to see this new mode.
I thought you were giving elo for free xD
hahahahahah, not at that point just yet LULZ
Do you guys know which accounts in the top 10 are frequently playing? It seems I only see like 4 of those 10 people actively playing and in the last leaderboards.
You can check in illuvimaster their match history if interested.
the dates there always show "just now" or "processing"
Any chance we can get the rest of the illuvial lines in when the new mode is released? Thanks for all the updates @noble radish
This is a recent error, ususally it shows the day the games were played
Where can I see the illuvium rank? the one on the website is embarrassing and doesn't seem to work.
i feel like its a bug if a unit is rooted and it still goes airborn right? or does root not affect being able to go airborn?
Those changes seem really positive - the way it has been until now hadn't grabbed me due to the perceived complexity and having to put so much effort into it; such as understanding and managing all those augments
. Making it more accessible to casual players is super important, and as long as there's enough scope for the people that want to get sweaty with it then that's great 
no one from displayed top 10 is playing
guesss and web3 probably have to finish their game
sandy and nylerxz are done
the rest don't play
viper might at some point
idk if zadkiel is done
but you can overall assume that top 10 is very unlikely to play
even top 25 doesn't play much
We need a reset soon, very hard to climb if higher people dont play and only facing lower ranks
I already gave up..
I think web3 finshed, guesss I’m not sure
I think they are just leaving everything like this until new game mode
Yeah sadly I think you are right
Guess I'll grind the same 15 games on each account again
I think after the new mode there will be a hard reset, so no point to hold top1, only for rewards
only reason is to not give +30 elo hits away 
Yeah
Very unlikely. We are trying though.
Just got 1470ish in ranking
Took me 2 weeks
Really possible there is like 400 people stuck at 1372 past this your on leaderboard!
Those people, if they are people, never played a single game of their lives. Its just inactive accounts that used to have the starter 1500 elo and got soft reset there
Oh ok got it!
But i mean its duable to be on leaderboard without playing 4 month straigt

Just the same deck
Any updates on the TL tournament and who will be commentating it?
Also are these 3 augments that we get randomly replacing the legendary augment phase or is it an additional phase in the game?
Additional. Legendary are powerful. No cost to any of them.
no cost as in you can play them without using mastery points?
Yep.
My best guess is close to OB but team has been silent on this for ages
You can't build a deck without the mice line, so stupid. you can't put so much omega damage, and some omega abilities unusable..
hello team! i am new, i would like to invest 500usd approx in this game. What would be my estimated profit per month?
nobody can answer that
and anyone that does you should block them cause it's probably bs
tyy!
Why does Rhamphyre sometimes not do damage with his omega power?is a bug'
for whats its worth i like pivots in the game. I dont play them often but when the opponent does it makes it very interesting for me
Two possibilities. First, rhamphyre can be cc’d by stun, root, etc and will do no damage with omega or 2) if rhamphyre OP is dropped to 0 by dust or anything else he will do zero damage omega.
throw a 20 cost immune on omega aug on him
okey ty
Sure it's a bug, I always get this, and it's not the only illuvial that doesn't take damage, or it can be blind but most of the time it doesn't take damage.
Appreciate you and the team bustin your ass to make the arena a better experience asap.
LOL
why does the 3s immune removes dust debuff completely? Didn't it used to only prevent new stacks agaisnt mud
(Removes for the immune duration)
With mud, it temporarily removes all stacks then they appear after the immune wears off.
The cleanse does nothing to mud, I think.
I would love a few more pings to the team, especially in the positive vibes channel. Can’t tell you how nice it is to get a ping saying that someone likes something you did.
And in this case, I’m pretty useless and the team deserves all the credit.
This sums it up super well and I agree with all your points.
Sounds good to me. Especially since fps games are so popular. So keeping weapons as a focal point makes sense long term
And lightsabers! Lol
Goes without saying
Illuvium Arena will look and play very different if things are B-A-L-A-N-C-E-D.
I wouldn't even consider what we've done up to now "giving this game mode an honest shot" because we've all been funneled into playing just a few things that are clearly OP at a time. When everything has a proper power level it will be so much more fun, interesting, dynamic, challenging, unique, all the adjectives.
Break it so you can fix it
Imo balance isn't even half of it. It's variety. Of course u run a strong comp that u r forced to run by bonding and then secondarily its something like colossus or Frost. There are like 5 composites that don't require the ranger
To keep it positive - I have full faith we're going to get there - because the folks doing the work are amazing and have produced incredible results time and time again.
Everything else does. Imo we needed the remaining illuvials to test. Hindsight I guess
For a 'proper test' u know
More Illuvials will help, but not without balance. More Illuvials without balance just adds to the frustration because people will try to play them only to find out they are unplayable. Balance should be first and foremost, but everyone is clearly not in agreement with me on this. I'd love to know why.
I agree, I get the team has other priorities but to properly test a game mode it has to be somewhat balanced. The new mode seems promising but it needs to be balanced to be properly tested
The patch we got where we had the most viable teams was just prior to the augments change.
Not sure why people think that balancing is easy and a finite activity, it's an infinitely ongoing task that takes tons of time and effort, there is no way around it. You can't just throw all your resources at it and be done with it forever in a short time. Even TFT, which has a team with immense experience can't make the game balanced, there is always a comp that is OP, but because all 8 players can't go for it, you need to play other things. If TFT augments can make an otherwise not very good comp into a beast, maybe something like that can be achieved here, if you get specific augments suddenly you could beat the comp that is supposed to beat your comp if you play it right. Just check what kind of balancing decisions were made by the TFT team within the first year, they learned to make better decisions and so will Illuvium team.
The goal is not to make a new tft. It already exists and is popular. It can share similarities. Balance is less important when the pool is shared. If a comp is op in TFT and you force it every game, you'll be contested.
In Illuvium arena 1v1, YOU bring a deck into the game which makes balance a whole lot more important. I'm not saying it is easy but when you read a patch note and know whats good at first glance, it's not ideal.
No one will bring a team that has 1/20 chance of being good with an augment.
This game mode is a good start and hopefully the next game mode is even better. But to to appreciate a 1v1 game it has to achieve a certain level of balance. A balanced game is as important for release as an interesting game mode. Again, I'm not saying balancing is easy but when we get large infrequent patches it doesn't help.
It's probably a good idea to wait for the new game mode but I feel the team underestimate the importance of balance. We dismiss ideas based on unbalanced states
How will they integrate NFTs into a mode that's like TFT? And a mode like tft is much better imo, they could even add a 2v2 mode 👌🏼
That I don't know😄 Personally I prefer 1v1s for competitive settings. Might not be the best for mass adoption tho
Hello guys. Is arena rewards still active? Because I do not see last snapshots in pinned messages
Tbh I am scared of the development team following feedback from "good players from other games" that do not play illuvium, and likely will never play it. But I can't wait to be proven wrong. I think it is important to have a 1v1 game that is as less random as possible for competitive reasons, and a multiplayer game (battle royale and 2v2) that as random attributes and is more for fun.
Yep, they release snapshots only when distribution has been made
There is a reason that it is never the same players at the winners of tft tournaments, it is because there is a lot of randomness. Over the long course the best player have better achievements, but they are still less likely to have repeat champions.
If the goal of the game is to become popular it would make sense to have a decent amount of randomness in it, so not the best players would also have a chance at big prizes. If the game is 100% skill like chess, it will attract way less players in comparison to something like poker, which has a ton of luck and randomness involved and is way more popular than chess.
But thats where I disagree. I'm not entirely convinced balance exists. For example there's like 2 combinations that imperically win round 1, bulwark water and toxic colossus. It's simply the case because of the limited amount of possible combinations and the limited about of MP available round 1.
Now the more illuvials u add to the mix then the more combinations that become available. Alternatively you balance atlas and carablu, but they either always win or are garbage, there's no inbetween
Im exaggerating but u get my point
At some point a lot of round 1 were being played and 3 water bw was really weak, just cost efficient for turn 2-3
You had like
5 fire
3 earth
Enchanter 3 air
Toxic
Fighters
Water bw
And so on
I think if something is only 1% better it can end up feeling like its OP and the other thing isnt playable. Its so hard balancing a 1v1 game
And it's not just about 1 round, the game is about doing 1000 damage
i also think TFT is more competitive. Or at least im way more impressed by the decisions the best tft players have to make than i am of any 1v1
Are you saying chess is not a popular game? If anything we would be lucky to have a game as popular as chess
I agree there, but we are so early. I would not throw the current game mode out because of balancing issues. Before the tsunami meta it felt way more balanced, and I am sure we can achieve a better balance than that. But I guess my main point is people who love tft will play tft, lets not try to make a tft 2.0. We can of course use some of the most successfull part of it, but we need to be a complete different game
Chess is a popular game, but poker is way more popular, more fun and exciting to play and attracts more players and viewers. If you have a choice to make your game similar to chess or poker, the choice should be obvious if you want mass appeal.
A quick google would tell you that there are around 600 millions chess players and 100 millions poker players in the world. Not saying one is better than the other, but to say that poker is way more popular is just foolish.
Yea agreed. Team has said they will have multiple modes so will be a great test. I vouched for battle Royale like tft but premade decks like the current mode so it not just copying tft it’s just the easiest way to explain it haha
There is value in both a chess like game and poker like game, that is why a good 1v1 base on strategy, and a good multiplayer with more randomness is needed. That way you have a game closer to chess and a game closer to poker in terms of randomness.
Follow the money, which tournaments get bigger prize funds and viewership. Its not even close.
Try to find a streamer with more viewers than Hikaru, good luck
Poker is a game base on money, of course prize pools are gonna be bigger 😂
He had a stream with 5k views 4 days ago, surely there are more watched streamers in many categories. Chess is very skill based game, probably close to 100%. Average players might watch it, but they would never participate in any major tournaments or win them. Many poker tournaments have been won by newbie players, in reality worse players will never be in + but at least there is a illusion and that attracts players.
You still did not find a streamer, and you are singling out a single day. Also the bigger part of his audience is youtube videos. Who cares if the newbies don't participate in the professional tournaments? Actually they should not try to make a game where a newbie is able to beat a professionnal player, that is just pure nonsense. You want to newbie to play the game and enjoy it, buy some nft, contribute to the economy. You don't want the newbie to try to beat pro players, this is how you drive pro players away
A true player ❤️
I was sad when Hearthstone devs were following reddit feelings on what is the reason they win/lose instead of me or similar ones pointing out that those changes after feelings would cause other problems leaving the real problem causing card/strat untouched, then my predictions on what would be broken with their changes or ideas would come true most of the time and things would be worse
So far from my pov Illuvium Team is doing a better job at that and it is a beta, I assume if the goal was for every Illuvial to be playable bloom/invoker wouldn´t be so gutted e.g. I think community just has a disconnect of wanting polished game vs beta testing in that regard
(I know I complain about current patch a lot, but on a side of I think this is bad, I rather walk away atm than play it atm and here is why, not this useless "how could this ever be released" sentiment)
there is a difference between winning turn 1 with units, that are also good mid-late game and there is a difference winning by 170 or 80 damage as well
in e.g. arcanite mirrors aka water bulwark turn 1, players barely took damage every turn, or playing anything vs bloom arcanite, you win or lose by a unit/ranger, so we had games go to turn 6-8 on avg, now we had games end on turn 4 very often in recent metas, as the early turns leaded to more damage and the midgame fights were also 400-600dmg swings instead of 1 Illuvial with augments
side note I´d not be worried, but sad for myself if the game would go away from a deckbuilding direction too much, as those are rather high agency strategy games and I like that a lot, the amount of skill needed to have better decks than the others is insane, deeper than analyzing stats to know plays for TFT or just learning from many books etc. in perfect knowledge strategy games.
obv better deck =/ 100% win, but that´s fine for reasons you guys mentioned in the chat already
When did they pay the last rewards? on Monday?
Hi, I'm new to this game. I devoted several hours a day to this game during the week, and now I have a 1200 rating. If I may, I'll give you a little feedback:
- There is no training at all. In the game there is also no way to gain knowledge step by step, for example, you can introduce missions where first we deal with classes, then with affinity, then we study composite interaction, the different positions of the units on the map, and what this leads to, and so on.. Just 5-6 simple missions, and any beginner could get into the game! The first two days of studying, I can’t start playing, I just read the wiki and watched guides on YouTube - a lot of people will simply drop out at this stage.
- I know that veterans of this game will scold me very much for this post, but.. The leaderboard rating should require a daily minimum of play. When I watch Twitch, a lot of top 1500+ rating players play on 2-3 accounts. This is not normal, and it will also alienate players who enter the game. For 2 seasons I was in the top100 of Axie Infinity, and I would like to give an example from there - need to play 5 games every day (only for hight rate) so as not to get a minus to your rating points. At the moment, I have also seen several times statements from top players that in recent days it is not profitable to play ranked at all..
- we need a layer of beginners, where a person at the beginning of the journey will feel comfortable experimenting with the deck. I don't know how to achieve this. (
- the information you share on discord. This is very cool, but all such information should be shared with the entire community.This should be in announcements, and should be available at the same time to everyone. This it is important, because... such things can be signals to sell or buy NFTs.
English is not my native language, so I apologize if this was not clear. I really like being here, gl&hf to everyone
just check people's play time
no matter how bad some things feel some of us remain massively addicted
kind of the best indicator
i don't go on discord to rant about a shitty game, i just uninstall it. the fact that we're sometimes mad and keep playing proves you're doing good 🙂
(you being the team)
imo the last balanced meta was when we had technoleecher bug
i agree with you on most of the things. for the ratingdrop, there is a rule that you have to play at least 15 games a week to be elegible for rewards
sell unit get 100% refund bug was a good one as well, made early game playable for every comp and not only some all in cheese stuff
true
daily requirement is too punitive, even a pro playert may not be able to play 365 days a year
Ring damage helps revenant skill 😭
so in ascend players will have all illuvials unlocked?
no, only atm for beta testing
Welcome! 
Personally I also prefer the 1 v 1 mode without rng
I think the "rng" needed for masses thing is overthinking it e.g. chess 600mil players, you want variance and agency as far as I understand, flipping coins isn´t cool for many, as most complaints in here have been about "I don´t like loosing due to matchup" that´s rng "I don´t like loosing to Team swap, side swap" etc. those are about a lack of agency, not rng, as the game has lots rng ever since tbh in current setting
e.g. TFT has lots of random events, but you have impact on them as a player, they aren´t blatant insane impact flips/dice rolls
I trust you 🤝 your lots of experience
from a player/creator side for sure, from a dev side idk 😅
im leaving this fking game until your fix
this shit
is terrible
213213 shit mirror lates lost because the stuck bug
is not fun
people is playing because of the money
hotfix it or something
bye
Always nice to see how respectful feedback can be given 🙃
why do I get timted out for "normal" words and cut veins is fine 
this bot hates me I think
Although I understand @obtuse imp frustration - this is not the way.
I've been playing Overworld instead of Arena lately and it's pretty awesome. Maybe try that while we have some Arena "downtime".
It was either writting something or breaking my monitor after losing the 10th time with better positioning in late because of a bug or a random shield timing killing
i am sorry
i will take a break of the game and just that
I feel ya. Yesterday, I literally walked my ass to my local store to buy a new mouse because the old one broke. I'll give you one guess as to how it magically broke and which game I was playing when the mouse repeatedly slammed itself into my desk all by itself until it was in many bite-size pieces.
A break really does me a world of good (I'm in overworld right now and it's like a breath of fresh air).
the frustating part is losing because of XD, for example @turbid osprey outplayed me 5 times and is completely fine because you learn from it and you acknowledge that u are worse, but when u are better but the game decides that no you lose
this meta exhausts me psychologically 🧠
yes, I know, but 15 games are played in 1-2 days..
yes but keep in mind we are still in beta, its just for bug tests
pro tip : use a corded mouse, so that you can make it spin while holding the cord then throw it away on the wall. that's max damage
Not sure if you were in here yesterday or day before, but yeah I’d just take a break for a couple weeks if you are feeling like this, Aaron has informed us a new game mode will be out by end of month, not hotfixes until then as they are testing how fast they can get this sort of thing out, also, we were informed a couple weeks ago, even though we all know what a beta is for, that they are more focused on testing for bugs in the game than balancing at the moment, rewards are just a little reward for our time, so hang in there brother
I said I´d stream arena again daily, anyone with ideas for fun teams to play? or is it rats mirror only?
same
I think it’s viable to run behemoth/rats deck, opening is probably just sack but it’s better then straight mirror every game
more rats 
Does it need to be arena? I’m enjoying overworld for now and I’d definitely tune into you playing OW.
I think when I did overworld>arena in the past around 50% less people were interested, but it is an option for sure
What I don't get is why they don't easily hotfix rats, rha and dust. I mean, put down rats' omega ability scaling by 25%, put dust OP reduction as 7-14-20, adjust inferno to 1-2-4% and the game is actually ready for a great experience. These changes are simple and quick to make from a dev perspective and would make the meta 10x better.
Just a simple change that takes barely a day or two of a dev team, and you get your community happy.
Idk, to me is a no brainer.
About revenant, it also needs a change but that implies more game design testing and now its not the time. But oh boy did they overcommit with the rha buff.
Maybe the wildfire empath deck? Idk how it does into the rat deck tho
The problem is that there will be something else OP discovered in a few days and people complain about that. They don't have time to keep adjusting everything even though I would very much like it too
This is by far the worst meta state we have ever had. Only two comps are actually playable from a real competitive standpoint. These comps revolve around inferno, dust and revenant. These three composites are broken right now. Specially dust and inferno, they are so easy to fix.
True
I'm just gonna play ramphire and hope people keep giving me the 3 inferno
Only way to beat dust
Not really
Certainly! and I like this game 🚀
I just said my thoughts on this matter.
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Guys, can you explain to me when the revenant's shield is triggered?
Sometimes I think I understand it, but then it doesn't work as I thought...
How else? Mirror?
If a unit with revenant kills an enemy unit
hmm, ok, thx
need to look at this again 😅
What I think is kinda busted is that the whole team gets the shield instead of the revanant units
This is not the problem many think it is. The “problem” if there even is one, is that the team is not working on balance at the moment. I don’t think it needs to be a problem in the grand scheme of things because Illuvium is in the process of building the games and they have done what they believe is best to build those games. From a user perspective, it’s a bad experience, but I’m not sure that’s relevant to building a good game. I know how it feels to me as a person, but that is immaterial.
It could become a problem if they switch to balancing and struggle with that for any reason that could have been prevented by balancing all along.
This is incorrect.
Revenant units shield all friendly units in an area around them when they have either killed or assisted in a kill.
This may be where some are confused.
Also incorrect, see above comment.
If you tone something down, something else will become more powerful compared to that so its not totally true what you are saying although I get it and I agree let them focus on building now. Balance in open beta, which is ofcourse still a BETA and we will get there eventually
What?
Oh
Yeah oke you are right
Still think that is too powerfull, or too high of a shield
yes, that's more like the truth! 🦊
Although what you are saying is objectively true, I believe it’s overblown. There is nothing Illuvium can nerf that will give something else the power level of 3% true damage to all enemy Illuvials while that unit lives after first omega. Sure, some things will incrementally improve after nerfs, possibly improve so much that it needs the nerf bat now, but it will be much more in line with the rest of the game. Think 1 standard deviation OP instead of 2 or 3 or whatever the heck inferno and dust and revenant are now. You take those down and I bet wildfire will be op. But, it will likely have more viable counters because its raw strength is lower than the others.
Add in the concept of momentum. We have been moving away from a balanced game for a patch or two now. Once balance becomes priority, each patch will see the game get better, not worse, and that will create much needed goodwill and positive vibes where many of us have the opposite experience with the latest patches that seek to test certain comps instead of make the game better.
True. Sadly illuvium strives for perfection before they release something new so we need to wait now

Not necessarily:
#🎮〕illuvium-arena message
Asap is another word for soon which I know has a different meaning in this project😂. Don't get me wrong I love the game and what the team is doing tho but realistically we get something end of the month
That is true, right now what is strong is so oppressive it's not even funny.
i think it doesn't have to kill, assisting in killing should trigger it too
Takedown means kill or assist.
So yeag
Also, it needs to be within 25-30 hexes close to the revenant unit
that bug was surprisingly fun to play around with and ironically made the game feel way better
This shit gave me a good laugh ty ser 
They have stated multiple times that they are working much faster than before. Likely due to the help of the epic games launcher, allocating more resources/man power to Arena/Overworld, etc. But I understand you'll be cautious regardless and I can't blame you for that tbh 😅
Yeah I know they work hard and have been working hard. Just know that it might take more time than expected to not be disappointed. 2 years ago we were planning on open beta in summer so yeah...
No I agree but there is actual reason that they are able to work faster now. The Overworld team has doubled in size and I’d be surprised if the Arena team hasn’t grown a good bit as well but I can’t confirm that.
As well as epic games launcher making internal builds much faster to get in and download
Not making excuses for them not hitting previous dead lines tho 🙏
the thing is that rats make any team revolving about using OP unplayable, so tuning that down could open up more possibilities
and not many auto attack based can still rekt it because of the blind
yeah oke fair
If all of you smurf accounts that beat me out of my rightful spot in the ladder could just send me some ILV to make up for it, your karma would clean up a fair bit 😛
how many points i need to start wining ilv?
Just play your 15 games and you will land in top 400-500
really?
@frosty canyon I congratulate you for playing something other than meta
where i can see the rank?
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@cursive echo On paper, it should have worked. Behemoth/dust ranger is scary
yes I'm starting to train with it I really like it
need round3 );
Yummy. I love taking elo from new accounts..
Did the rewards list come out for last week yet?
No
Ramphyre wins tho
i just want to know if i understood correctly...
in the new arena rewards distributions from week 5 onwards those that are not eligable will be removed and other will fill their place?
it was from week 4
yeah, it started from week 4, i was supposed to be #498, but was pulled to #149
Is the meta still Revenant Dust?:
Only rhamphyres now
and is it switched to L2 or are we still paying gas to for every reward? or is that why there is a delay?
L2 was coming soon last week, i assume they are waiting on this to finalize before sending w5
Thank you so much for being helpful.
Ohh i see.. Do rhamphyre with immune augment beats revenant dust? What do you think about Revenant inferno?
Yes with the immune and decent positionning rhamphyre truly has the advantage from R4 +
Revenant inferno has been tried quite a lot by people but i think it doesnt perform well at all against normal rhamphyre or normal revenant/dust
@vernal forum nothing works 😢
Yes, but we knew this when we read the patch notes, eh?
I know but I really want to play another team than this meta
Seriously though, if you haven't played overworld in a while - I highly suggest trying it. There are many, many improvements - it looks incredible, gameplay is very smooth... I just really have enjoyed my time in there, and I believe that the more we test and report bugs, the better off we'll all be.
This game mode is in a bit of a holding period, so it's a great time to work on other stuff. Reset and come back with a vengeance when they drop new stuff (just a couple weeks off I believe).
When will payments be credited for the rating?
What bothers me is the graphic quality, it’s not optimal.
I remember the absolute shit storm surrounding the world of warcraft graphics when that was in beta. There was a vocal minority that absolutely hated the cartoony graphics in that game. I geniunely liked it. Stylistic graphics like wow and Illuvium are not everyone's cup of tea, but for me - I really like the graphics in all 3 Illuvium games. If you are talking about minor things like in the pic - that's immaterial because the game is literally being developed before our eyes and stuff like that will be put into a priority queue to be "fixed". The upgrade in graphics from last time I played is highly noticeable in Overworld.
Especially Abyssal Basin.. that place is just stunning to run around in and explore.
is that on epic settings?
yes but I tried all the configurations
those are like placeholder art atm, I don´t like them either
Performance Mode and not epic Hardware?
wen survival arena FPS bug fix?
something's wrong with your pc
graphic card ?
yeah missing the graphic card 
They didn't say anything about when they pay the rewards?
It sounds like the plan is to wait for it to be able to be distributed on imx L2
Which is being worked on
Nothing officially announced though.
And that can take days or weeks?
And what benefits would it bring?
Imx means no ethereum mainnet gas costs for distribution.
Unknown
@stable scarab Did our game finish for you?
After i won 5th round for the win the board just cleared and the surrender button is still there even though i won
@dark scaffold What do i do when its only me that bugs? i dont want to surrender a match i won in reality and get -30
currently nothing you can do, team is working on those disconnections, but right now just closing/surrendering
What about your magic wand? 🪄
I see on the website i won my elo, if i surrender a game that the game already give me my elo for you think i can also lose that game and the elo afterwards?
that works only with spells that are already crafted by the team 😅
i would imagine, it will not be taken from your score as the session may be already closed, push the button and let us know 👀 🥶
🪄
nothing happened now stuck in the game. First time happening, is that the ghost session thing? I press B to report, how long till it get fixed now when this happens?
BY THE POWER GIVEN ME BY THE ILLUVIUM DAO!!!!!!!! 🪄

Let Patate WIN the next battle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no, the ghost session is where when you search for the opponent, your Cancel button is greyed out, and this bug should not appear anymore
just close the game and start new match
@turbid osprey sent @dark scaffold 0.009760 ILV (≈ $1.39).
we are totally on a good path to get me fired here 🤣
Ahahah
no bribing poor Peter ^^
you dmed me to send you money if i wanted to get help
$tip @turbid osprey 0.009760 ilv
@dark scaffold sent @turbid osprey 0.009760 ILV (≈ $1.39).
When this 1.39$ ilv will be a million dollar ill send you 1000 jetskis
i have whole family of jetskis here 🤣 some TimBits i will take with no questions asked tho 🫣
How do you know thats a thing ahah
i lived in Canada for 2,5 years ^^
Oh ye i think you told me before ahah
When ilv moons lets do a timbit party on our illuvium designed jetskis 🤝
did anyone found the 5 comps that beat rhamphire ? 
Dust,rogue,spore,revenant,ramphyre
Negative hahahahha
Nothing beats a good rha deck with proper tech. Or does it... 🤫
And rha itself doesnt count towards beating rha lol 🤣
that's 1 team lmao
Trying to find is interesting😊 I think.
That was the joke haha
rofl sry i became a sarcasm handicaped somewhere around the 200th rhamphire game :/
it is, if you eventually find it or are shown the answer
Now is good deck is dust, rogue, spore, rev, Ramon?
What kind of deck for rhamphyre you said?
Example is dust, rogue, spore, rev, rhampyre?
yeah that's the one team everyone plays
I am in low rank lol
Because I start to play recently.
(I wanna play with high ranker…)
But truth, many in low use that deck.
Sometime I beat that deck as below.(dodge is like lucky)
Jotun
Sear
Singe(rhamphyre)
Archeleon
Gnari
Cardulox
Aapon
Geyser
You-fighter- jotun
However, many in low rank can’t use deck: dust, rogue, spore, rev, rhampyre efficiently…
I don’t know high rank world lol
Is there? Not yet?
Position? Arrangement? is very important.
Rev deck is very strong and lucky.
Oh I understand it lol
Absolutely he is strongest lol
🤣🤣🤣
Hey guys, i have a really big question. Rewards from the arena rankings are still going?
Yes they are.
Yes
I'm in love with this game
Hey guys! any tips to counter revenant dust/spore line? Only comp im having a hard time with rn lol
You can play verdant/behemoth or magma/enchanter against revenant/dust, but they will switch to rhamphyre and then you will need to guess which side is rhamphyre landing
trying to use team builder but its just glitching hard
So glad theyre simplifying the team builder and taking augments out to give them in a different way.
i cant even get onto team building lol
Have you used it before? Are you logged into your account using your email?
Support can usually help get stuff like the team builder being weird worked out. Contact #❓❓〕support through the website shared in the #❓❓〕support channel. Or look for HELP(?) in the top menu of the illuvium website.
yh im logged in, but the page legit is glitching and doesnt allow me to press anything
am i able to send a vid in or will i get in trouble
just grinding some ranked, found a good strat with the pre build
thank you ill contact support
You can try posting a video in #❓❗〕community-help but it might not work
Does anyone know, where is the last screenshot on arena?
I want to see what rank i was last week. before playing this week
The snapshots are not posted yet
Sorry. And I don’t know of a way to check ranking from a certain time in the past.
but the snapshot already happen in 6 march?
Yeah it must have
inferno overpowered imo
Broken
every patch is worst than the one before...you guys must be kidding...hope OW will turn the tide really coz arena is a joke rn
changing inferno damage to pure damage just make no sense at all..just like making the seawater a sweet water drink /disgusted
Is there any way for us to see snapshots of week 5, 6, 7?
No, have to wait
Okie thanks
Is there any way to see active decks? Or where should i start with deckbuilding when starting out new in arena?
Some good Stuff in #🎨〕community-content if you are new in arena
Viper has some good Deck explanation vids
Will post shortly, was just paid out while I slept
only for week 5, right? wen we can expect week 6 and 7? 🙂
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@worldly jolt
Week 6 will hopefully be distributed before the snapshot this week 7 snapshot this week.
now is week 7?
yes
Yes, we are generally 1 week delayed on payment for confirmation of placements. Also once the new game mode comes we will be pausing rewards for testing of the new mode.
how many rating points top 1000 player have rn? after top 600 it shows just 1372 on another players
@cyan olive seems like people have found some counters to the team in your last video. Any chance you could do an update on some of those teams? I’m really having a difficult time figuring out exactly what’s going on in this game and making the proper adjustments
this current meta is just not very competitive, I have some upcomming videos, but there isn´t a new this team will win you every game thing atm
it is still dust revenant>rhamphyre>verdant stuff>dust revenant and you pick 2/3 for your team in tldr.
hi mate you have any videos out for a newbie to hear and learn?
there are videos in a beginner playlist on my yt channel e.g.
if you could please link or tell me what to lookup
Hi everyone,
I am Torben "Viper" Wahl, a Gamer that made his hobby into his job a while ago by being a successful Hearthstone Pro-Player reaching the World Championship Finals.
Now I am onto new Endeavors looking for new Challenges that are to come in Illuvium.
I want to use this channel to share my Path in Illuvium and educate everyone along t...
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Is this just a me problem again? Stupid discord mobile
Yes mobile
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based on the txt file...we have 348 players into Arena? i can t understand..the game is 1000 times better than TFT, why this numbers? it is on epicgames..it is free...I really can t get it. /sadness
Let's be real, in the current state of the game. Tft is more fun
It's the top 1000 but everybody who is playing has 2 smurfs as well I imagine which aren't eligible for rewards
And...wen rewards stop? we will have what? 50 active players?
The project is too good to have these numbers...
millions and millions of beta subscriptions and 348 active players?
I am in disbelief
the leaderboard..pays the first 1000... 🫡
You didn't read what I just said?
Probably some smurfs in there trying to get rewards twice aswell...
Remember for example that Guy who's wife didn't got rewards and was asking for help 😂
Ok I guess I could be more specific. Say both are running dust/rev with earth weapon. We go round for round 1-3 and then turn 4 they drop ramph and I go geyyser/aapon/gyro. Sometimes I win sometimes they win. Is it just placement? Augments? How do you decipher what won or lost you the round? Other than hoping to get another game with them and try something else
you can record your games and rewatch fights to figure out what happens
like what units get hit by rhamph/ranger, are some cast timings good bad, where do hedgehogs roll
It’s most likely placement
Will arena be one vs one or are there plans to expand similar to tft with multiple players in one game?
Eventually there will be a multiplayer mode like tft, but first it will be 1v1 in arena
Hey guys is the snapshot in 3 hours or 27 hours? Thanks
27
I’m slowly starting to learn arena after going from 1000 to -500 … I feel bad for someone I beat back to back he went from positive 340 to -150 in 2 games 🫣
I feel you on that. I hit a guy in 800 down to 500 in 1 game. Idk where those 300 points went to bc it only gave me like 20 lol.
yup but im finally on the other side now, I lost to someone 3 times in a row but only dropped like 50-200 each time, this guy lost over 200 each time
im guessing might depend on the difference of HP between the 2
I just made someone lose 374 jeez lol
Good thing I got 30 points up 😂 the grind is real
Yeah it is. I went down to like -200 when I started and have been grinding pretty easily up to around 600 but it's just too much of a grind to aim for leaderboard if they stop paying out at the end of the month and there is no way to see top 1000 rankings :/
I read abit above that people are also smurfing. I wonder if dev team has anything in place to stop and negate that sort of thing
Because technically someone could just replicate the same deck on all accounts and play and win
smurf are allowed
but you only get rewards on your highest account
How could they tell if the accounts were never linked?
you're supposed to name your smurf like your main
and they have other ways to check
idk how though
like my main will be Style, my smurfs will be Style2, Style3 etc
So if only the highest will get rewards what’s the point of smurfs?
Testing strats
Ah makes sense
Speaking of points that game was weird. I lost only 14 but the other went up 90 something. I’m about to go bald with all the head scratching.
Has anyone done a guess at the formula of match results for arena ranked?
I like Arena and autobattlers in general but I feel like this one has too steep of a learning curve to attract new players.
I think it just makes it easy to play but hard to master
You come from elohell lol
Jeez just when I was grinding I lost to the same person I lost 3 times to. I thought he moved up in the world.. LOL literally rematched with them again (VS)Inferno just now. The past 10 games I have played 5 with them
Yea I see GrannySlayer at least once a day lol
Idk if a bot because he just puts 1 point in each card every time and it’s happened at least the last 9 encounters he does that
also once you've reached a certain point in highelo it's not worth playing it anymore, you have longer queue times, and you're risking a +10 -30
What would you say is that point
Have the requirements to receive rewards increased? because I'm sure that this week I played all 15 games and reached 1300 points and I didn't pay myself.
the week before if he paid me well
Rewards of past snapshot weren't allocated.
I know but this week I met the requirements
Last week hasn't been paid yet
why i'm not included in the week 5 snapshot? (Nikkis is my user)
is there a way to see how many games weve played this week?
match history or something?
illuvial masters website you can see but it occasionally misses some games
If you think that you were actually eligible then it’s Probably best to ask support. No one else is going to have actual data on that.
Contact #❓❓〕support through the website shared in the #❓❓〕support channel. Or look for HELP(?) in the top menu of the illuvium website.
Snapshot is 1h am ?
It’s in 24hours.
The EVENT in discord shares the time in your local time.
This pinned message will too. #🎮〕illuvium-arena message
Once I update the time for spring timezone change. @zenith mortar I do need to change the time right?
<t:1710374400:F>
Thats the time it shows yeah?
Yeah. That’s it. I’ll update the old pin too.
It is the Glicko-2 rating system. Check it out on wikipedia and you won't have to guess, it's laid out clean and simple.
Got another 0.12ilv for my awesome Arena Skillz🥳
oh, i see someone with a bad name in there, very naughty
whale detected
what rank I need to have, to be in top 1000?
No rank, just play 15 games and you will be top 300/400
oh, thanks for answer is here any way to trach how many i played already?
No?
Only if you know what you are doing
I suggest tracking it manually when you play to make sure. Best way other than that and to look back is illuvialmaster.com
Some games might be missing though thats why doing it manually is the best way
no there is a point system here
my current rank is bronze lol haha
I say this because theres only that total amount of players
Someone with 1 elo will be top 300/400 (if eligible)
There are also a lot of smurfs who are in top 1000 that don't get rewards, not just people who didn't play enough
Yup, that's the current setup, but once many players started playing, please be advised that you need to be atleast top 1000 with 15 games that week to be eligible (and have played 25 ranked games lifetime)
What are the best augments for revo?
the rating still doesn't reflect the places well
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611-1168 place - 1372 ratings are shown by players (it cannot be the same for 400 players)
It is. Those are old accounts that never played. The old starting elo was 1500 so the one time we got a soft reset they went down to 1372
ok, but.. how can I see what rating the 1000th place starts from?
I had a UE5 game crash earlier today where when I tried to rejoin the match I was staring at this empty board again. I had to surrender to not end up in a ghost session again. Where are the crash reports being saved so I can report it?
Heres the leaderboard
https://play.illuvium.io/arena/leaderboard?activeTab=ascendant
Maybe I'm just being a noob, but it would be cool to have a VS bots mode with no timer where we could test putting multiple combinations of units out to visualize what the synergy would be, and then be able to undo all of it with no penalty so we could try something completely different...idk if that makes sense, but sort of like a playground mode where we can test different openers and stuff.
When you crashed if you clicked the "send and restart" its already sent. If not, not sure you can send them afterwards. @jetski might be able to say more
Ok nevermind I'm a noob, am doing training mode I think that's what I needed lol
Id love something like this too. Imagine if you could even play from both side of the board
Not something to focus on right now before open beta though
Ah but is there a way I can use my own deck in training mode?
No its a new deck every 24h at 00:00 UTC
611-1168 place - 1372 ratings are shown by players (it cannot be the same for 400 players)
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They are all ineligible for rewards, they never played
im curious do rewards go to the top 1000 players minus the smurfs, or the top 1000 non-smurf players?
Example-
if there are 500 smurfs in top 1000, do only 500 get paid out?
or
if there are 500 smurfs in top 1000, do the "next" 500 players get paid too, so the top 1500 players (only 1000 payouts because none go to the smurfs)
2nd option
Is this the same for unactive users who have not played 15 games that week?
Yes, all the ineligible accounts (smurfs, no wallet linked, not 15 games) are removed and dont block leaderboard spots
How random can this game be, you can't control more than 15% of the game, and the omega ability is absolutely embarrassing... 80% of them are given without a target, they are blocked while using it or even after.. And after all this and the ranking point is obtained randomly..
I think you control much less than 15%😅 , everything is too random every omega ability... and you can't do anything.
When can we expect last week arena leaderboard rewards ?
Hey is possible to have a picture with rewards for all ranks pls ? 🙂
What do you mean?
The rewards table
A picture with every single persons name on it?
I think he mean what each rank earns
Makes sense
should already have been taken 38 mins ago
Perfect thanks!
how come monkier doka and lynx stuns rhamphyre when in air but titanor omega doesnt?
I understand that mate). What I don’t understand - is how I can now look at the leaderboard on the website.. 😅
Ikr I noticed some of that stuff too. Its cause Lynx OP
im draining haha
Maybe area stuns verse targeted?
had a game today where my kukkulus was about to omega stun rhampfyre, but then his rota happened to roll between them at that exact moment and that rota got stunned instead
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@granite osprey dont ever beat me again kid
Lol gg brother that last game you made me look so stupid
great plays
are you kidding me? 🤣 I am writing to you that there is a problem with displaying the leaderboard, and you are sending me a link to it a second time.
There is nothing wrong, there are just a lot of inactive accounts
Sorry for the confusion man you just said "how can i look at the leaderboard". Figured you forgot about the link or just didnt click on it
If its not displaying on your end i dont know what it could be sorry
THIS
This
I can't post screenshots here, it's very strange, even links are allowed. ((
There was a reset before rank rewards got integrated and those accounts got reset to that rank
yes I saw this answer above, and yes it is.
But this does not change the fact that we cannot correctly look at places from 500 to 1000. Okay, I don't think this conversation makes sense. They tell me the same thing 10 times. 😅
They all have the same amount of ranked points, so the same rank in the leaderboard because none are higher than the other, not so hard to understand?
AHAHAHAHA
you're really kidding me.** I understand this**
However, these accounts are inactive, they have not played 15 games, and should not be taken into account in the ranking. Because of them I can’t see information below top600
you are literally breaking my heart
Just get around 1400 points and you are already in top 250
yes, mate, if you are top600+ then looking at your rating in the leaderboard is really no problem 
Survival Arena painful to play after wave 20's 😦
Almost Matrix feeling
Anyone know if I lose lp for quitting when the game froze?
Depends if you won or lost the game
Its autochess so it determined the fight on the last positions I'm guessing
probably not, too much fight rng for it to be determined before the fight plays out
All I know is that I won and lost a fight after a disconnect so both is possible
Probably better to restart
and see if my rank went up or down
Ye
You can also go on websites like illuvial master to check if you won or not.
When ever I have a freeze I only wait 5 seconds then AltF4 and re log in. sometimes you can get back in
How often are the soft rank resets?
If you have geforce graphics card then make sure you have latest drivers installed, I dont know how or why but as soon as new driver version comes out and I play ascendant arena, games becomes laggy after round 3 or so when full teams are out, dropping to below 10 fps.
There is no defined cadence
Gotcha
I imagine there will one when the new mode is release.
Pb4ish
Losing the first 3 placements makes your starting mmr so low i was wondering if its worth it to just wait for reset
Just make a new account
Oh thats true
And sad
Maybe after I actually learn the game tho
so i know what im doing
do we know what the approximate floor for rewards was on the last snapshot?
i climbed up to 600, i imagine its not even close to the floor tho
Pretty sure as long as you get the games done (25 for new account) you will get rewards
600 should be enough
As long as you play your 15 matches you will place in top 500 at least. The last rank list had less than 400 ranked
those accs don´t count towards rewards, they are skipped for them
also to post e.g. pics I think you need lv 5 on the discord
the not being able to scroll further part is likely a bug or something, that has been noted, seemingly not fixed yet though
thanks! that definitely has helped. there is still some fps drops but it is no where near are bad!
That was from 2 weeks ago I think, so idk about the current situation
Are the arena rewards based off of your rank at the time of snapshot or your highest rank achieved?
rank at the time of snapshot
you can also try dropping everything to lowest possible on video and graphics tabs in the settings
website down?
Yes on maintenance, check #📣〕announcements
How do I create a new account for arena? Do I need a new wallet too or what’s the procedure? I know I need to add a number like 2 or 3 at the end of my name to show it’s multi account but what else? There was a link but I cannot find with all the specifics
you just create a new account using a new email adress
basically just log out and sign up with new email
then if you want rewards on the new account if it got higher ranked than the previous one, you'll need to link a different wallet from the first account
I wonder how many players the game has now playing at least a few hours per week, is it 1000 or even less? 🙂
Well ~350 people got reward last snapshot
LOL, really hope new mode will bring players (be included) back to playing
coz now its only 15 games per week coz of rewards
Why is it that if I bond my Ranger to a rogue, and then I give him an Earth Shiv, my Rogues drop from 4->3? Shouldn't it still be 4?
2x rogue isnt rogue anymore
it has rogue from the bonding + rogue from the weapon, which makes the Predator composite, so it's no longer a rogue
Ohh, i didn't even know that was a thing
Ty for the clarity
I wasn't sure if i griefed myself or it if it was a bug
at least i know now
350, that's such a low number.. damn
Upto 30 teams. Is that new?
Yeah im ngl its a pretty fun game, i'm surprised only 350 have played 15 games in the last week
gl gangly 🙂
So basically anyone who played more than 15 games last week got rewarded?
gg 😄
Is it the last week? I thought we were a few weeks behind with snapshot payout?
been there since last patch, or maybe since the one before that
how do u get to 38 level today?
I was around rank 1500 for the last snap shot and ended up at rank 96 when snap shot results were posted
1500 rank points or rank 1500? Because that doesn't sound right
Should be rank points. Because around 1620 points before adjusting for eligibility is normally the top100 cut.
Yeah that sounds more realistic
I had 1330 rank points but because they removed the ineligible accounts and move everyone eligible up on the snap shot I was rank 96
That can't be correct because I had 1405 and I was rank 246
I now realize I was looking at the wrong week
Okay so it sounds like 760 won't put in the higher tier but i'll be eligible for rewards with it no problem
Maybe
It's not that hard to climb a little higher tho
rewards on or off atm?
ah forgot gettin turned off on new mode
Yeah it’s my first day I’m not too worried
Exquisite experience. Risking 40 elo for a +0 reward. hahahahahahahhahahah
Maybe a +1 should be set as the bear minimum. Can this be adjusted @noble radish?
no you dont you just enjoy this riskswwww
I see, thx for clarification brother
Love how the other guy gets +0 instead of -0
I wonder if he actually won 0. something ahah
Lol , nope ..max rating diff cap is not needed
Thats elo hell
that was morelike a -60 if your pc crashed there 😂
Its a -mouse or -keyboard if you lose those
probably both
might add a monitor for good measure
on
Dust unita getting stuck still not fixed ? Bro thats sad
Wow what a no care from dev team
U have 20+ days bug on meta units weow
this is protection against night runs😁
15x plus 0,X mmr seems obviously better than playing vs minus 400 mmr and having a real risk for minus 30+
I’d take 15 games vs bronze, easy leaderboard finish
hahahahahahaha
How long did you queue to get someone with 1100?
The devs are all rushing to add the new features and get them up to standard. Fixing balance issues in a mode that is soon to be deprecated would be stupid.
It isn’t about not caring.
The game is in heavy development. This is what happens. Once the game mode is set, updates can come quicker.
Hyped for new mode

Funny thing is it was only 2 mins
oh 😅
You are being efficient, there is no use investing on something that will soon become obsolete. In favour of your strategy sir.
The current arena will go away?
only if you sell in May
What a poet lol!
You probably got some rating to be fair but as we don't see decimal points we don't really know. It might have even been 0,9 but unlikely.
Yes they are planning to release a new version of arena by the end of the month which will have different rules to the current build
Yes I know there was going to be a new mode but I thought it would be additional
Looks like a full replacement at this point due to feedback on the current build
There goes all my knowledge 
the new mode stuff is further out as far as I understand, what the next update refers to are big updates to 1v1 arena, not entirely new game
What knowledge? 👀 😆
Idk depends on the new mode
Is there a new Meta? Haven't played in a few days…
No
Ok
pure inferno forever alone
at the team: I just had a bug where the second round of augments was just like the first one and already put the tokens on the ones earlier aswell. I could not change them not could I report ingame at that moment. My opponent afterwards had augments I never saw - I sadly cannot say how to recreate that issue
basically the second round was a copy of the first one with already my previous choice logged in. I won one of those augments and could not give it to my units (probably because it would need to be a different augment than shown). I took a screenshot ingame of that error message, but put it as "feedback" instead of bug - sorry. Was in a hurry and wanted to win 😄
Just out of curiosity - how many players here also play tft/come from tft?
I think they’re just wiping the current 1v1 arena mode and replacing it with the new mode. And then much later on they will add a multiplayer mode
I've played tft, but not really competitive
oooof, poor soul
What is the best counter?
I know,iam just asking so the newbs in here can get ahead.😐
Ofcourse
I practice Verdant Behemoth, total 50/50
if i get my wife into the game and we both make the top 1000 would be be eligible to each earn rewards or will it only count the highest account since we will be playing from the same house IP address? Our gaming setups are in the same room
arena rankings are glitched rn or something. link takes me to the main page?
Yeah same for me. I think it's because of the update. Heard previous links to teams also don't work
which update?
Yesterday they launched an entire rework of the web portal.
hi guys can you share the meta teams now and card buffs>
ow so this is new meta pure inferno team not ice bear team
oh noice, what are the dimensions of the board?
<@&821154860816793604> the new arena team links are getting blocked by the chat bot
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and here is a full in depth guide that I did with illuvidata today on this deck:
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w8 why did jetski link disappear and yours work 👀
I guess he teted and deleted it
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Alright Vipers videos are too good

I started going 5-7, watched a bunch of viper videos and am 27-3 and +800 mmr since then. A lot of it I’m sure is just deck quality but he does a great job explaining the thought process behind the different comps. It really helps move the needle in close fights.
Have you competed in TFT before? You remind me of a few players with the way you approach the game.
Can we just block rewards and remove arena completely until new game mode comes out? 😅
I was one of the first ever challenger players when the game came out and been getting chal for fun last few seasons.
Overall used to be Hearthstone Pro, was at worlds finals, made little over 250k$ in pricemoney in hearthstone.
I used to stream more in the past as well, so have background in content creation and coaching.
Happy my content could help you
Oh nice, yeah there’s a lot of crossover between TFT and HS
thanksm ate
Do i need to make second metamask wallet to link to my smurf account ? Or is it just working if i just add another account on same metamask ?
Like this
For now i never had my smurf acc higher rating than main, so i didnt pay much attention
Yea that should be fine I’m pretty sure
Hello, is the arena leaderboard on the website up to date?
Why are there 500 accounts with Odankov’s MMR and after the 606th place there are immediately 1100 and so on for a month?
My game crashes constantly, and its very frustrating, im running a 980ti so pretty old but not ancient,
I get an error message that I've sent about 50 times or so I keep persisting but its wearing me out at 800 rating but i keep losing games due to crashes. Is there any fix other than a hardware upgrade ?
can someone send a good lineup, im tired playing rhampyre over and over hahahahaha
I mean the 980 came out in 2014, thats a decade ago. illuvium is a really high graphic game that isnt optimised yet. Maybe its not your pc power thats causing the crash, but perhaps its time for an upgrade.
In IT time, this is right before entering the ancient state 😂
980ti so pretty old but not ancient,
my humble advice @plush gate..if you are using an old card DO NOT use the latest drivers but use the most performing ones for your card..based on what you say..i suggest 536.23 for maximum stability and performance
All LOW setting ofc
I'm running amd rx470. All on high
Are we having delay on arena leaderboard drops?
So 980 must be significantly better then my card
If i am not wrong ? We are still waiting for last week,but aswell 1 week before that right
?
Don't know
