🎮〕illuvium-arena

[opaque cape]

as long as it has counterplay and there are multiple routes to deal with it

[bronze canopy]

scorioc spammers in shambles

[opaque cape]

when i play a comp that beats 90% of other teams and sometimes i get hardcountered and autolose 10% of my games, should i complain then that the comp isnt balanced?

[bronze canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/walk-away-im-out-gif-27669704

[tribal glade]

really? I'm jumping into the game now

[opaque cape]

by rip he probably means it no longer autowins into 90% of the matchups

[bronze canopy]

yes now you cant round 1 scoriox round 2 both augements and expect to win with a straight face

now you actually have to position

[worldly jolt]

Had you seen that?!?

That would have been nuts

[bronze canopy]

yes kek

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/drinkingfire-hose-drinking-faceblast-gif-14869685

Cooldown for on Crit should help keep several things in check. Including umbre

[supple cave]

umbres doing 1 bazillion damage and regen to full life on omega, and omega every 3 seconds lol

[supple cave]

umbre is definitively not in check hah

go play some and you'll see. It's madness

[worldly jolt]

I wish I could. But it’s gonna be a busy work day

[tribal glade]

his omega doesn't life steal?

[worldly jolt]

Last I knew his omega is a series of regular attacks. So if it’s got vamp it will steal

[supple cave]

trust me guys... go play and you'll see umbre doing some mad stuff

[worldly jolt]

Press B.

[brazen quarry]

There are augments in this game

[lament frigate]

Exactly what I was referring to. But well if these who play it having fun stomping everyone with it by basically spamming just umbre. Good luck.

[worldly jolt]

Posting links to broken comps will not improve the balance. It will make it easier for people to use those broken comps.

[supple cave]

it's not "spamming just umbre", but ok. I agree that creature seems a broken op with the right position and combos.

[lament frigate]

Neither am I saying that. But in a scenario were you kill there whole team and only umbre is left and goes 1v5 and this several matches long. Well that's far from being balanced.

[supple cave]

yeah, that IS happening. Umbre winning on 1v5 or more. it's madness

[brazen quarry]

Ok, I'm making umbre - rake - dash deck

[worldly jolt]

Now everyone reading this will

[bronze canopy]

ty for everyone whos playing umbre

freelo

[brazen quarry]

Are you streaming Shabby?

[bronze canopy]

tomorrow

[lament frigate]

Nice for ya as someone who plays on another lvl.

But then this goes no where mainstream.

[bronze canopy]

theres a lot of things about the pvp that needs to change

for mass adoption

like having your whole deck available to you is not da wei

[opaque cape]

i think its fine to have your deck tbh

you can either play 4 units of 25 cost or 1 unit of 100 cost

so it balances itself out

cheap units + augments vs expensive units and no augments

there's options there

legendary augments feel underwhelming atm, lots of times nobody gets anything

even when you do get them, its usually round 5 where you get to play them for the first time

since most comps follow a flowchart to get their 7-8 units of their team online first and only then start augmenting up

but i see shabims point, it feels repetitive because there isnt enough RNG, the legendaries were supposed to be the RNG factor, but that factor might be too low atm

so i guess the question then becomes: how do you introduce more RNG into the game?

maybe a rule where youre not allowed to place more than 2 units on the board per round? that would force people to augment up sooner, make it harder to force out comps, force players to use ranger weapons earlier

[bronze canopy]

ikd i still think its the deck, imagine going into a tft game and you have your perfect 8 bit team with perfect items to put on units

it hardly matters playing vs 1 person or 8

you just play the same way

[dull wind]

what is the sentiment here for having leaderboard rewards for an unfinished game?

[opaque cape]

but then other players also have the perfect counteritems so your team loses strenght as well

[bronze canopy]

yea and it makes it boring and stagnant

it snot about winning or losing

multiply that gameplay 100 times

[opaque cape]

its about more fun

[bronze canopy]

nobody queuing up

[opaque cape]

but with no full deck and not being able to get your synergies it becomes very rng heavy

[bronze canopy]

yeah its defintiely thin ice

[opaque cape]

imagine youre sitting there until round 6 until your carry shows up

by that time youre dead

[bronze canopy]

yea thats why i think the deck size needs to be bigger and versatile enough

for you to play 3 routes

at least

[opaque cape]

maybe some randomness but you get to pay gold to draw what you want

so either you have more gold and play whatever youre given, or you have less gold and play your perfect setup

[bronze canopy]

there also needs to be a rng factor to blame for losing

like some people cant mentally handle losing versus a deck

and only thing to blame is their inability to counter it

[opaque cape]

im a fan of having 15 or whatever top decks, both players randomly draw one

[bronze canopy]

yea but how does that transfer to OB and catchign your own units

[opaque cape]

for the competitive scene i mean, not for casual players

[bronze canopy]

i still think the skill expression is in the deck building not playing the game

[opaque cape]

i think for tournaments fairness sake it would be better to give players access to everything tbh

[bronze canopy]

thats where the querky come sout

[opaque cape]

imagine a tournament with live deck building

aka you have a random selection of units and you get to pick 1, then opponent picks 1 etc

30 illuvials to choose from, go 1 by 1 until both have 15 units

there's tons of options, just have to try out a bunch of different stuff or even have different game modes

[dull wind]

as things stand, the game got boring since everyone is using the same teams

we need more illuvials to mix things up or different game modes indeed

I'll ask again, what is the sentiment here for having leaderboard rewards on an unfinished game?

[bronze canopy]

it would make the top players play more

and lower skilled players complain more

like the game needs to get to a stage that i play it for fun in my free time

and that can only happen with some rng factor

Hades, backpack battles, tft

what do they have in common

why are they successful

you dont go on a run with your perfect set up

you get what you get and youa dapt

[wicked cloak]

in theory the way things are would work if everything was completely balanced

maybe just give it some time

[bronze canopy]

nothing can be perfectly balanced in games like these

something is just perfectly countermatched by something

[dull wind]

for me the fun part is theorycrafting, seeing the game unfold is boring as it stands for me at least. what do "top" players play besides empaths/arcanites?

[bronze canopy]

top players play the top deck

rn ppl experimenting with umbre harbingers

[dull wind]

everyone plays with the "top decks" when they know about them

[bronze canopy]

yea but top players play the best way

and adapt better

and understand the game better

you give a monkey a hammer it wont build a house

[cursive echo]

@smoky python

[dull wind]

we need more illuvials in the mix to shake the meta and bring more diverse teams

[split egret]

Harbinger give omega power to highest omega power illuvial is good

[bronze canopy]

you would think that would fix it

but we have literally hundreds of lilluvials

3 teams in the leaedrboard

you add 10 more

[reef basalt]

why though? In MTG you bring your own deck. They dont go here get whatever cards you want and make your own deck for the tournament.

[bronze canopy]

4 teams?

[dull wind]

at least have 5 top teams

[reef basalt]

this I agree with. Seems the carries are limited and the others are lackluster (like jotun)

I also barely see an adorius in th emix

[bronze canopy]

too expensive

games dont last long

ir probably needs to last longer

[reef basalt]

I agree. comes down to swarm meta being too effective

[dull wind]

it usually is a numbers game

[opaque cape]

cause if you dont have the budget and can only afford 1 good deck you will lose to someone that has 3 decks and can just counterpick you

[reef basalt]

Wouldnt that be an incentive to go OW or purchase off illuvidex?

[opaque cape]

if a top tier deck is 3k$

might be hard

[reef basalt]

thats fair.

Id love a draft format in the future

[dull wind]

me 2 those are so much fun

[reef basalt]

love whats happening in Arena. A throwdown is about to happen

[rancid raptor]

Are we now limited to 1 augment of each type or that didn't change yet?

I think the game becomes more interesting playing more illuvials than augments

[supple cave]

i am against arena leaderboard rewards before open beta

[supple cave]

totally agree. much bigger deck. at least 35-40 cards

[supple cave]

the only way to activate harbringer is using the ranger for it, right? only axxon and axxodon to fill

[bronze canopy]

need ranger

[acoustic sigil]

what the magic resistance called in arena? what s the best way to defens my units vs the Invokers?

[tall tapir]

Resolve would be against magic and grit for physical

[static steeple]

Did the deck builder go missing? Or am I missing something?

[dull wind]

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder

[coarse echo]

Energy Resistance is percentage based energy damage reduction, and Resolve is flat energy damage reduction. (We use the term "Energy damage" in place of what many games call "Magic Damage"). Hope that's clear.

[acoustic sigil]

yes sir, that is a big help thanks a lot 🙂

[zealous vortex]

what is meant by Effect package?

[bleak escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/delivery-kick-newspaper-gif-9243117

[coarse echo]

It's just the attack or omega. Basically the piece of data that gets sent with any ability. Could be a projectile attack, or an aoe stun, pretty much anything. "Effect Package" is more of an internal term that probably shouldn't be in public definitions. Where is this screenshot from?

[languid sparrow]

So when an illuvial is blinded he can miss while using it's Omega ability ?

[stray gull]

Good morning, just woke up to see the guys got the patch deployed

[bleak escarp]

Not sure, but I did find out today that the sloth line's "root" cancels snail omega...

[stray gull]

What's been the feedback so far?

Quick TLDR please, well received or are we seeing new issues?

[bleak escarp]

Still feeling it out, air still seems viable which is fair. Haven't tried other fixes yet.

[rose spruce]

pretty good for me, no more errors

[zealous vortex]

https://illuvium.io/news/illuvium-arena-team-builder-guide

[bleak escarp]

Still getting MP glitch tho, stings when i forget how much MP i carried over.

[stray gull]

GG @worn flame 🫡

[languid sparrow]

Idem, I got it more frequent as well

[coarse echo]

No, blind only affects hit chance of attacks.

[coarse echo]

Root doesn't cancel omegas. You're seeing the additional affect after the root from the sloth.

[bleak escarp]

So the "knocking up" is a 1.5 sec stun? Not familiar with that verbage.

[languid sparrow]

Root just root but stun cancel.

[bleak escarp]

Gnarl is on his way to first class, tell you that much.

[languid sparrow]

Does blind have an impact on Physical Attack and Energy Attack ?

Lol instead of hacing to ask all those littles details around the terminologies, which is kind of annoying for everyone in the end (loosing time).
Can we get a resume of them ?

Just trying to help & save us some time here

It's like riding a bike in first gear when you still want to go fast, it lacks efficiency a bit.

[bleak escarp]

I wanna go fast too, Linkky, me too...

[zealous vortex]

where can I find the energy cost?

[languid sparrow]

Or you can use the filter Energy in the Illuviary and see all illuvails Omega Ability cost.

[zealous vortex]

awesome, thanks a lot! you have api calls to auto update on patch release right?

[languid sparrow]

There no API yet just 🧠

https://tenor.com/view/magic-gif-26166638

[old lark]

@umbral oracle

Let’s get kick these rivalries to the next gear after launch

x.com/playdubbz/status/1733161203235504430?s=46

[fleet crest]

I was thinking of someway to encourage people to enter tournaments. If all prize money just goes to top players what are the incentives for players to enter that arent good? Personally I love the game but have no interest in entering a tournament as I know I have no chance in winning or coming close to the money. So I was thinking of giving a % of the prize money to players. Something that is purely a chance of winning something extra. An example would be after every match there is a box that you click on for a chance of winning ilv. This way the more matches you win the more matches you play and therefor a greater chance you of winning something. Just think if you have a few hundred people playing and the only people that win money are the same people over and over again its not fun and why enter. I still think the top players should win the most money. Just trying to incentivize more average players to enter tournaments as well and possible win something as well. Curious to hear peoples thoughts.

[opaque cape]

xborg tournament had a very flat payout structure where top 16 got paid 100$ minimum

[west quartz]

first 10 round game ?

[opaque cape]

haha yeah that was funny

i doubt its the first

[bronze canopy]

+18? what is this sourcery

[opaque cape]

its a decently new account

[jagged summit]

Hypothetically you could set up tournaments to pay all of your entry fee back just for winning the first round or maybe say half and then after another win you get full refund effectively. In a deeper tournament with 4-5+ rounds you could easily come out positive due to good matchups for your deck and fair chances to meet someone at or below your skill level. Though if you really think you’re bad then yea you probably wont be risking money yet.

This is a feature that could be apart of the automated/constant tournament system being discussed. Particularly player created custom tournaments, it would be great if the host can tweak the payout settings.

[raven obsidian]

gg @opaque cape

[opaque cape]

gg 😄

[raven obsidian]

im guna copy your team btw, so much power lol

[opaque cape]

this was our day 1 trolldeck lol 😄

[raven obsidian]

lmao

sure trolled me

[fleet crest]

Right now I'm just thinking about the tournaments that are free to enter. Like the Illuvium and Team Liquid one for 100K+ ....if they are just going to give money to the top players all the time, I just don't see a lot of people bothering to enter. unfortunately with their being no rng it makes it difficult. Would you enter a chess tournament if you're playing against Grand Masters?

[opaque cape]

yes, for the experience and for the chance to compete with the best

according to that logic only 2 chess players should enter any tournament ever

and upsets do happen every now and then

even in chess

[jagged summit]

I see what you mean. Though you’re basically asking why tournaments exist as they are or saying they aren’t effective. They could certainly add some raffles for various things as part of the experience for entering just to say thanks for showing up which is somewhat standard nowadays however it would be wrong to just ask for money because you suck and it’s not fair that other players put more time into being better than you.

Honestly if people aren’t interested simply for the experience then it has more to do with the game being bad than boo hoo i didn’t win money for placing second to last

I’ll be entering if i can play personally even though I know I’ll get destroyed early on or mid rounds at best because it will be fun

[fleet crest]

okay let me put it this way then. Is it the best interest for Illuvium to spend millions of dollars in tournaments and just keep giving it to 100 players? seems a like a big waste of money. Would like to see the money better spent and allocated. Would rather the money better distributed. Like the 100k tournament. Give 75K to the top players and 25k to the other players.

[jagged summit]

In general though i do hope there is reasonable depth to prize pool so on that note i agree. Just not too deep or a lot of money to people who happen to lose early

[opaque cape]

is it in the UEFA cups best interest to spend millions of dollars on the best teams and players like messi and ronaldo when the other teams have worse chances?

i do like a flat payout structure

let people who win their first couple games also profit and enjoy it

[scarlet spindle]

I think I heard Kieran say that the 6 million dollar tourney would pay out the top 1000 places. ( That was when ILV token was 1800 so it would not be 6M these days )

[jagged summit]

When da heck did we announce a 6 million dollar tournament?

[fleet crest]

was about to ask the same thing haha

[scarlet spindle]

That was early on, so the money is less, but I was pointing out that the top thousand spots get paid

[jagged summit]

Lol, though tbh they could probably put up 50k tokens for the big tournament of the year and we would still be good for 8-10 years on reward tokens assuming 100k a year though that may be a bit too much.

[scarlet spindle]

I think the expectation was a 32k player tourney played in a t5 land owner's E sport virtual stadium.

[jagged summit]

Well then we definitely need that automated tournament system built lol

[fleet crest]

Just think its unfair to compare a game that isnt released yet to a fully matured game. when Illuvium is around for hundreds of years and have billions of fans I agree with you. Personally, just think we are a little too early to be giving rewards just to the top players.

[jagged summit]

That’s way too many people to deal with manually handling everything

[scarlet spindle]

He might have just been hyping up t5 land sales too, but I really liked the top 1k players paid out.

[opaque cape]

then how do you get the top tft players to come over to this game and bring their following?

[jagged summit]

You’re basically saying you want to buy more players right? Come play in our tournament, we’ll pay you. Probably. Which is fine, it’s basically ad money spent in a more direct way

[scarlet spindle]

Yeah I doubt I'll be in the top 50 but for sure in the top 1k 😁

[jagged summit]

It’s amazing what a few extra zeroes do to peoples egos. Even though it’s statistically about the same as saying you have to get first in a tournament of 32 players.

Maybe even harder considering the sheer number of rounds played

[woven flint]

Well, easy just when you did the xborg tournament, it was funny to see that at the same time there was a tft tournament with 400$ prize pool !

I don t think top tft player will stay on tft if illuvium tournament keep being with bigger prize pool !

[opaque cape]

thats the strategy to bring them over i guess

sounds like a solid strat to me

if tft doesnt reward you for being a good player, why stick around

[woven flint]

Depends, if you like randomness or not 😅

[opaque cape]

if youre really good at a game and you get barely any rewards in game A, and nice rewards in game B, which game are you gonna play?

[tight bluff]

How da patch

[tight bluff]

The one that's more fun?

[opaque cape]

if youre a casual to good player yes, but if youre one of the best? hell no

[fleet crest]

example. this 100k tournament. which is going to happen before open beta launches. i think is enough to turn some heads. you can still give the top 16 or 32. 75% of the prize pool ($75k). i'm just saying spread out the other 25% (25k). The good thing is we will easily have larger tournaments then tft, so if money doesn't bring in the top players from tft then I don't know what will.

[opaque cape]

i agree with that

75% to the top 20% of players and 25% to the 40-20% is fine

[jagged summit]

It feels like assuming the scale/not knowing the scale or number of entrants to this upcoming tournament is what caused this debate to begin with. Because otw there seems to be a general agreement.

[fleet crest]

that is going to be the interesting part. the top tft players will come over for the money for sure and there fan base will watch a bit. Is the game fun enough and compelling enough for them to switch? If Nadal switched to Pickle Ball, will his fans follow him and play?

[edgy flower]

And who is S_xBORG ? 🙂

[opaque cape]

shabim?

[edgy flower]

You all on S letter, so who knows which smurf was that

[bronze canopy]

thast not a smurf

its just a player from xborg

[west plume]

@daring shale GG

[supple cave]

caradulox should be tier 4-5 lol

and i really feel that something that would improve a lot the arena is having the deck size be at least 35

so you cant really know what your opponent will play on his deck surely

it'll be 10 times better and more challenging for both

[jagged summit]

It definitely feels a tad bit restrictive rn. Dedicated armor and weapon slots that don’t take away from augment and illuvial slots would be a good start

20-10-5 maybe?

Or just 30+5

[worldly jolt]

I’d prefer this. The other is too prescriptive for my taste

[jagged summit]

Exactly why i added it

Let someone have 15 unique illuvials and then 8 rhamphyres just to mess with you

Or perhaps the phantom army is the true endgame xD

[edgy flower]

@serene lance KEKW gg

[serene lance]

Wish i could tell my rogues to not jump across the map sometimes lol

gg

[edgy flower]

so happy to win with meme deck

[serene lance]

this was my first game of patch and trying something meme too, your meme is better tho apparently xD

[jagged summit]

Rogues would be way cool if instead of jumping to the opposite they grab the furthest unit from them and wisk them over to the back of your side of the field :p This is mostly a joke

[spiral cargo]

Is anyone else having trouble getting the Arena to work on Epic Games? I tried to update and now it won't install. I tried uninstalling and reinstalling and still won't work.

[rain coral]

Check if your video drivers are up to date and if you have DirectX 12 installed. If you still can't run it, please send a message to support in #❓❓〕support for assistance.

[west plume]

anyone up for a game?

[supple cave]

I made a cool deck with Grilla haha. won a bunch of fights. Kieran would be proud of his monkey.
Monkier needs some kind of energy omega, MUD affinity gives energy on attack!!

[serene lance]

Why is water gauntlet still doing 2k aoe damage i thought we were past this 😆

[hoary mason]

Whats the 18gb update?

[hoary mason]

I think rogues shoukd actually jump to the opposite side of the board where they were placed not all the way back no matter where they are placed. It would give more strategy on where to place your rogues knowing they wont all end up at the back.

Like if i play rogue front line it will tp to there side front line like a mirror

Or at least maybe one or two rogues that act like this

Maybe the slayer class could be reworked to mirror instead of jump all the way back?

[serene lance]

I really wish my illuvials would just use their omega when theyre at full energy and not silenced or stunned

Seem to want to finish what theyre doing before casting which half the time means they die before using it

[opaque cape]

well thats what silences are for

[worldly jolt]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gif-18612587

[jagged summit]

I thought about this as well and it does kinda make more sense

[molten hollow]

Wave 29, my personal best

[rancid raptor]

Hi guys can anyone tell me what "exploit weakness" means in game?

[jagged summit]

An Attack or Omega with Exploit weakness has the damage it deals increased by the % missing health of the recipient. A character with 50% Health would receive 150 damage from an Attack dealing 100 damage with Exploit Weakness.

[rancid raptor]

Thanks!

[jagged summit]

np, be sure to check illuvialmasters if you ever have any questions, their site is pretty useful

[rancid raptor]

Yeah thanks I usually do that but this time I'm on my mobile and couldn't find the dictionary tab on the website

[jagged summit]

haha gotchya

[reef basalt]

Just caused a bug.

Blazenite hits the hedgehogs with an omega and they got stuck there @drifting torrent

[coarse echo]

GGs @rain zinc @vernal forum @clever roost for the 1-2-3 in the Illuvium Inferno #2 Tournament! Awesome to see you all play on the first day of a new patch!

[brazen quarry]

Any broken / OP builds, feel free to DM me

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[brazen quarry]

Oh yeah, don't do that

[gentle bronze]

Honorable mention to @worn thicket who had an AMAZING showing with a few really fun + unique builds that we didn't see any of the other players using

those kinds of players really make the streams more fun to watch

[coarse echo]

And don't forget the spicy one of a kind build that @lilac grail brought

[gentle bronze]

LOL @lilac grail with the absolute high testosterone CHAD build

[tribal glade]

Amazing games today from so many players

Top 8 - Illuvium Inferno #2

@rain zinc @vernal forum @clever roost @worn thicket @smoky python @lilac grail @turbid osprey @orchid panther

Amazing stuff today guys!

[reef basalt]

@vapid crypt hot damn I thought I lost that

[hoary mason]

Patch notes mentioned this

Updated the Ascendant Video Tutorial with the accurate link and added a surprise for the curious minds, hidden in an undisclosed location.

Anyone figure out the mystery?

[onyx sundial]

Saw in the leaks channel there may be a link that rick rolls you 😅

[steel oak]

Are all illuvials released yet?

[summer frigate]

@serene lance I keep having to disconnect from the match 😔 done it 4 times now lol

[serene lance]

Same dude, ive had to alt f4 every round

and re open and re connect

[summer frigate]

I don’t even know who’s winning lol

[serene lance]

no idea whats happening

[brazen quarry]

Seems like game is getting bugged more often after the patch

[summer frigate]

Ok now it’s working

gg

[serene lance]

That was painful lol

[halcyon nova]

is this this the latest Patched version l-202312080849

I didnt noticed a download

[summer frigate]

Very, hopefully they can find a way to fix that issue soon.

[edgy bough]

another great showing from the commentators too i must say

[edgy bough]

Thanks for joining us for Inferno #2 TSG that was fun! Just a reminder to everyone that we'll announce Inferno #3 details ASAP and you can always ask questions in the https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1169721577416429589 channel where you can find results, streams, etc.

[hallow notch]

@gritty wren gg! Did you also have two rounds with no new mastery points? was awkward af not being able to play things and then randomly getting double points two rounds later.

[gritty wren]

yes, i got the same bug.. GG

[scarlet spindle]

The shrimp is so broken, he is not casting at the farthest target like hes supposed to and he can one shot buffed up tank. get that guy in the shop lol

[scarlet spindle]

Yeah my points have been wrong several times tonight

Ive just lost like 5 games in a row from the shrimp bugged out and points being shifty. Suxxors lol

[gritty wren]

yes that sucks. But glad we can play already with some bugs than wait more weeks for a optimized version

[scarlet spindle]

Yeah still fun as hell 🙂

[clever garden]

I was in a match where it got stuck and the next round would just not start. At the same time it was possible to move mozart around and to trigger emotes. The enemie was able to trigger emotes as well. I exited after waiting for 2 minutes.
Did you have the same issue or something else ?

[reef basalt]

does terror bird omega animation not show anymore after the patch for you guys?

[vale coral]

@reef basalt GG

[reef basalt]

GG ser. Forgot about steam lol

Didnt challenge that

[serene lance]

Did they accidentally buff Phosphorous?

[tight swift]

gg

[gritty wren]

mastery points more bugged in this patch, no?

[languid sparrow]

Yes.

[brazen quarry]

[velvet wyvern]

This is my 8. Hour today... just can not stop 🤣💀

[tight swift]

where can you see the ranking of players in illuvium arena in terms of points?

[reef basalt]

Not yet available publicly

[velvet wyvern]

What is the reason behind to keep invisible?

[scarlet spindle]

because they are not accurate. Still way too many bugs and glitches

[velvet wyvern]

What happens if a leadoard not 100% accurate? 😄 they can say its beta, but at least ppl could see their rank in the list

[scarlet spindle]

100 lol, not even 50% accurate

win 15 games at 5 or 10 pts, then lose 2 or 3 from glitches and you ar eback below wher eyou started.

[languid sparrow]

Maybe this can guide you true your ascension.

[reef basalt]

Theyre probably building the UI/UX for it to Illuviums standards as well

[ashen harbor]

Bro how you kill his dog Name forget I play agains him. I was better then him. But his dog was buggy his dog win along agains 4 units agains my. Which team you played ?

[languid sparrow]

Are you referring to the Thylacine line ?

[ashen harbor]

Umbre

I had same unit but bro his umbre was so op he killed 4 units along

I played better then him. But his dog carryd

[scarlet spindle]

yeah he's out of control lol. You can't even block him with filling in all the space, he just poofs into them and whack!

[ashen harbor]

Ah ok but how you win agains him?

[scarlet spindle]

i might start keeping a box of scooby snax to distract hium

[ashen harbor]

Ok

[scarlet spindle]

I dunno, when i lose, its usually either him or the shrimp that does me in.

[velvet wyvern]

Teach me how to stop this game pls!!!!!!!!

[scarlet spindle]

If you can kill him before he gets powered up, you might have a shot.

[vivid stirrup]

what do you mean?

[brazen quarry]

I think he is addicted to playing

[scarlet spindle]

I get 5 to 10 pts for a win. Then this guy takes out my 3k buffed seer and all the mobs around it in one shot with his shrimp and gets this lol.

Is that the trick for big gains? super dmg with less action?

[vivid stirrup]

it's about winrate.

example: you play 10 games (5 win 5 loss) u have a 50% winrate.
you play 100 games (50wins 50 loss) u have a 50% winrate.

now if you win one game on the first example, your winrate goes up almost 10% giving you alot rating.
if you win one game in the second example your winrate goes up 1% and u wont gain a lot of points.
the term for it is hardstuck.
people are creating second accounts to be able to climb fast again.

[scarlet spindle]

ahh yeah ive had a lot of 11 and 1200s today pulling off some crazy stuff. That makes a lot of sense.

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-gameofthrones-septa-septa-unela-gif-5547122

shame on smurf accounts

[supple cave]

wow, no point in playing the arena against all the variations of god Umbre. no fun at all.

[edgy flower]

sorry

[little quail]

@safe valve good match!!

[safe valve]

GG

couldn't manage a nice pathing for my illuvials 😔

[somber breach]

What are the perks of gaining rankings atm?

I’m loosing most game anyway 😅

[balmy dock]

Molten ground now Stays if the illuvial is still Alive??? Bug or new ?

[vernal forum]

@fallen vortex @coarse echo @gentle bronze @tribal glade - watching the Illuvium Inferno #2 from last night and your commentary is SO GOOD! "That's a massive, massive misplay!" 100% spot on! Very impressive with so many of your calls - I was holding that deck in my back pocket as it's a hard counter to my first deck, but I just couldn't put it together in the end and got severely outplayed by @rain zinc . I cannot wait for the next one - and I know I'm not alone in this feeling.

[gentle bronze]

I’m honestly surprised how well it looked like that last deck was coming together

Was that deck an intentional off meta counter?

[vernal forum]

It was one of the starter decks. I wanted to showcase something different and give the Illuvium team a shoutout for already improving the starter decks. Even took round 4 with it which just shows how impressive they are with starter decks. If it had an option to go 7 fire 7 psion - I think it could have actually won the game. But it stopped at 6 unfortunately. Props for updating those decks in this patch already - impressive work.

Those are really important for our new players.

[stray gull]

Flexing rank, but we have a Ranked Leaderboard with Leaderboard rewards on the way also.

[dark vine]

including reset or should we start grinding? 😄

[stray gull]

You can start grinding now

[jagged summit]

we implementing kyc before or after people complain about the same 5 guys hogging the top 100 spots with their 20 alts? XD

granted if ranks were reset every time rewards were distributed especially though a bit extreme, if they were daily or at least weekly resets multi accting would be quite the chore, especially if you set min matches played to an appropriate number, grabbing pc/phone info if that is an option would have some potential as well since most people have a dedicated pc and maybe a gaming laptop at most

[peak gulch]

What kind of rewards can one expect from hitting the leaderboards?

[jagged summit]

some number of ilv tokens for sure i think though probably minimal in comparison to tournaments unless analytics determine its more valuable to focus on general ranked than tournaments. I could also see skins being a definite reward like a lot of games have done and maybe even special illuvitars as some potential examples

[zealous vortex]

energy is the treshold needed to cast an omega right? is there a stat that gives a bonus to how much energy you gain for each autoattack?

[tight swift]

How to control a drone in the arena?

[fair hemlock]

Ctr+rightclick

[tight swift]

thx

[somber breach]

Wait control a drone…..what’s that for? 😅

[somber breach]

By skins you’re talking about Illuvium NFTs?

[winter marlin]

Is there any website like Monster Manual...
What is the effect of connecting survivors with monsters?
Is there any teaching?

[velvet wyvern]

I mean i'm playing since 8am and its now nearly 7pm only stop for eating 😄

ok enought for today 1850 time to do something else 😄

[jagged summit]

Could be, not up to me though so who knows

[honest pawn]

What about those people with 100 Smurf accounts

Seems unfair

[somber breach]

I mean if the game is play to earn it shouldn’t be only the top players who get all the rewards on a leader board right? However minimal the rewards participation should be a key factor also.

[jagged summit]

I doubt the rewards will be anything crazy in this early access so we can work with the team to solve issues as we go without any hard feelings I’m sure.

[somber breach]

Yeah for sure. Leading the way.

[gentle bronze]

I disagree

This isn’t a play to earn game fro my perspective it’s a win to earn game

Huge difference

If we give free hand outs the system won’t even work. The only play to earn component in illuvium I can think of is land 🤔

[edgy flower]

@vague karma wpwp, 1st time i saw it can be killed

[somber breach]

Confident you’ll be winning then? 😅 the problem win to earn rewards the same top players?

[gentle bronze]

I’m likely not good enough to make any money from being good at the game

That will only be for the elite

I play this game cause it’s fun idc about the money

[somber breach]

So why would you want win to earn? 😅. Yeah agree though game is fun. I doubt it will generate income for me if it’s win to earn.

[gentle bronze]

I want win to earn for the health of the ecosystem

A more healthy ecosystem means token prices rises, land price rises, and there is a healthy player base to play the game against

Tons of ways to make money in the illuvium ecosystem that aren’t simply playing the game

[somber breach]

I need to look into this 😁

[gentle bronze]

NFA always be smart when investing 🙏

[fair hemlock]

@gloomy barn those 2 augments were Crazy. 25 damage per hit on that umbre LOL

[lilac grail]

got 100 MP at wave2. fixed at round 3 where i got 320.

[burnt urchin]

Just reached 1600 in ranked. Pretty happy considering I’m a casual.

[edgy flower]

So "it's me" it's you? KEKW

[burnt urchin]

This needs to be thought about if it hasn’t already. We need to make sure a few people done take up the whole leaderboard with alt accounts.

[gentle bronze]

Good job bud 😉👍

[vague karma]

just trying what ppl are not.

[gloomy barn]

🤣 im just tryin different stuff out lol

[worn tree]

I am really struggling to understand the advantage of (small-mid-large area concepts. I think it would be much more competitive, user friendly and skill based to have the exact number of hexes for each ability, as well as the hexes each illuvial occupies. Finally, I would like to know if the area activation of a certain ability is the center of mass of the illuvial (so far this is how I believe it works).

And fuck, the energy cost of the abilities is super important and I believe it is not shown anywhere. At least in the team builder it doesn't appear with the base stats.

[jagged summit]

Yea the ui still needs a lot of work, missing info, can’t pull up info on some parts, vague info etc. it’s early access so they probably just put it together somewhat scrappily but needs work for sure for launch.

Also i would really like to see it light up the hexes when you’re placing illuvials if they have aoe buff or whatever so i can know better whether I’m catching as many of my units as possible.

This also needs added for augments. When I hover over an illuvial i want to see the aoe for the augment effect highlighted on the board.

[west plume]

@worn thicket GG

[worn tree]

Absolutely sir. And yeah, it is early access and most likely the team knows all of this is needed. But it is our duty as community members and players to deliver the message to the team to make sure these upgrades are implemented 🙌🏻💯🤝🏻💪🏻

[quartz dawn]

think ive played/watched to many games, when i close my eyes i see lots of blue and red health bars moving around 😂

[west plume]

@bleak escarp GG

[west plume]

@gentle bronze you should stream

[gentle bronze]

Lol Ill be live in like an hour and a half

shud never start round 1 without a weapon lol

[west plume]

or second

havent seen this strategy before

[dark vine]

can we please get another fix for this ranger psion weapon... Illuvials should really be the core of a lineup and not a weapon that kills with every omega

[gentle bronze]

Rogue augments be crazy huh? LOL

[west plume]

damn @gentle bronze

that was awesome

[gentle bronze]

So cheesy but I love it

gg brother

[west plume]

name of the game

did not see that one coming

[copper robin]

maybe a stupid question, but can frost attacks be dodged, or does it just happen via time

[copper robin]

rangers are hero's too, no?

[serene lance]

Yeah its still busted, the aoe needs to be removed

[gentle bronze]

ugh I dont want to be forced to play tsunami to run water gauntlet

sadge

[hoary mason]

has anyone done any wagers?

[dark vine]

single dmg is also too much already... it does like 3k dmg

[serene lance]

Its beatable but you have to kill them fast, any slow team and youll die

[dark vine]

no, not a single hero in this game only rangers and Illuvials

[gentle bronze]

It's more that I am trying to make a steam gauntlet deck work

Not sure if its possible

[jagged summit]

the ranger being a glass cannon is the only thing that makes sense to me actually.

tech can make up for weak body but not actually give us the endurance to survive being smashed or laser beamed

i haven't played against it yet though so I'm sure I'll be joining the complaints once i build up some more match play

[hoary solstice]

hello

[dusky holly]

Hi
It seems to me, or after the update, units that cause massive damage no longer take into account resists (I especially noticed this on fire units 😅 ), since HP simply disappears after their attack and it doesn’t matter whether your unit has a resist buff or not!?

[vale quest]

Affinity, how does it work and what counters what

[zenith mortar]

#🎨〕community-content message

[vale quest]

Thanks

[vale quest]

.... although I'd be super duper thankful if you pointed me to a post about Affinity. Specifically how it works and what counters what

I'm just trying to learn without getting smacked around for a few hours

[calm steeple]

is there a way to duplicate a deck?

[tulip tiger]

who is this?

[reef basalt]

Your own team or another's? If it's others once link is shared there's an "import" button

[calm steeple]

own deck

[tulip tiger]

gg 🙂

@edgy bough are you sending shooters after us?

[zenith mortar]

thats a lot of guilds in a name lol

pew pew pew

[reef basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/danny-devito-its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-bang-bang-bang-shoot-gif-17986214

[lapis citrus]

Didn’t have enough room in the name to come for you too

[reef basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-evade-avoid-duck-miss-me-with-that-gif-4606829658990250197

[bronze spire]

anyone know if the duleph bug is well known by the devs? Before I spam them with another bug report

[old mantle]

btw is it going to be fixed requiring a wallet to make a team?

[fallen vortex]

Im glad you liked the commentary bro it means a lot

Cant wait for u to build on that fire team. It's given me some inspiration too actually

We saw a lot of big birds become harder and harder to remove. But you proved that taking it out early isn't such a chore if u r careful

[hearty yew]

does anything happen if you have inferno actiavted without ramphyire?

[grand bluff]

Shooting air?

[grand bluff]

You mean you have 2 Inferno units? Well, it deals dmg per second to all enemy units in the board once they've used their omega once. Not sure if the damage is stacking, but I'm guessing it does.

[split scroll]

any interesting non-rogue decks right now?

[tulip tiger]

soda is typing...

[vernal forum]

Birdgineer! Just wanted to say it’s great to see you here! Someone get this man a deck please.

[tulip tiger]

i got you

[hearty yew]

So even if i have inferno with ranger + augment (on a kukka for example)? There is no "radius" than?!

I tried it (makes me losing the game). Didnt see anything X_x

[grand bluff]

Yea I believe it's the whole map.

[hearty yew]

after my try im pretty sure nothing happens at all

[grand bluff]

Have they used their omega once? It only starts passively dealing like 60dmg/sec after one omega is casted by the Inferno units.

[reef basalt]

I made dis https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/4f1b1018-fd1a-4dc7-8ff5-32a96178f4a9

[hearty yew]

yeah ranger and atlas.. both made omega. Looked a little bit like atlas omega also adds little bit of fire. But if so only on the normal attack and without any relevance

[grand bluff]

Probably a bug then (?) I haven't tried the synergy myself, but that's what I got from the description.

[split scroll]

Love Blazenite hah

[hearty yew]

ramphire marks this area on the ground .... this is missing on most omegas

[grand bluff]

No, that's his omega I think you're referring to. He flies, marks like a hexagon on the ground, then fire rains down.

[bronze spire]

no shooting into a previously killed illuvial. Like one that he killed previous omega. He will shoot into the same corpse again

[grand bluff]

Oh I've never encountered that.

Mine does shoot air sometimes when the unit dies almost at the same time the omega is casted.

[bronze spire]

you may just not have noticed. I was only able to notice because I was recording

ill see if i can clip it

[grand bluff]

Sure. Btw, I've met you a few times on ladder, but why does your MMR +40-ish or -40-ish per battle 😂?

[bronze spire]

was my smurf account lol. So it was still going through placements. I remember they were good games!

https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkxkpqi1R99L-vB2juUddhb-Q3jNKDF57wI?si=JO7AO5OGGhHgZRNw

[smoky python]

https://tenor.com/view/smurfs-smurf-stick-tongue-out-smurf-making-fun-3apples-high-gnomes-gif-21776084

[grand bluff]

Oh wow that's really unfortunate. I've never had it happen to me, but it's definitely a bug xD

[bronze spire]

yea happens enough that its a problem. A lot of the time its unnoticed because we think they just killed someone low

[bronze spire]

@tribal glade I know its not your job but dont know who else to tag haha. I cant put clips in the in-game bug report and this is a big one.

[reef basalt]

which one was the bug?

oh the second omega

[smoky python]

Dualeph has been messed up for a long time

The retargeting is also awful

[bronze spire]

yea second omega. First may not be a bug just annoyuing targeting

[bronze spire]

yea agreed but this is legit bug not just messed up targeting

[grand bluff]

Hm, I can't recall. But if it's true, it might explain why I'm not rank 1 XD Copium lol.

[jagged summit]

Just make em like the gecko and damage everything in a straight line so the whole team dies at once and retargeting is a non issue :p

[still sand]

gmmm

[bronze spire]

exactly must be broken lol

[halcyon nova]

Midbeast is streaming League and everyone complaing game isnt balanced ....,.....roflmao

and Prok is lurking 😉

[still sand]

yoooo

[halcyon nova]

do you know how to surrender or its it not in you phyci???

[still sand]

if 2 harbinger died, does the effect stack?

[halcyon nova]

cant find the button

[still sorrel]

@rain zinc WOW that umbre was scary....

[worldly jolt]

It should

[summer frigate]

In my opinion, classes and affinities with infinite scaling need to be nerfed.

[still sand]

even if its a ranger with harbinger class right?

[worldly jolt]

When I read the harbinger perk it reads like it should.

[still sand]

same same but not sure if its working

[azure wigeon]

what make this umbre get vamp/lifesteal? anyone know?

cc @ebon pagoda

[still sand]

surely omni vamp allies before combat start

[worldly jolt]

People claim that umbre is getting abused. I assume that’s part of it.

More harbingers getting vanquished. More Umbre omega power.

[azure wigeon]

which is?

[still sand]

the placement of that umbre before it jumps is beside with omni allies vamp equiped

[azure wigeon]

i see thanks

[reef basalt]

With every defeat or win you learn lol

[summer frigate]

Gg @serene lance

[crisp stratus]

did anything kick off everyone running the slayer + harbinger combo?

[ebon pagoda]

yo

[smoky python]

It didnt really get affected by any of the new patch nerfs

[worldly jolt]

Felt good to beat that @gloomy barn

Did not think I could.

[gloomy barn]

U had better positioning that last rd. Taking out Rake was needed lol

Also forgot to put healing down augments back into the comp lol

Gg for sure tho

[worldly jolt]

Yeah with both rake and umbre I had no hope. Those guys are throwing tons of damage.

Oh man. Gotta update.

[unique ether]

@worldly jolt GG

[worldly jolt]

I’m not sure that team is viable. I’m hopeful though. Thanks. It was a good test.

[unique ether]

I have seen one in the higher levels, good luck refining it

[worldly jolt]

Thanks. I’ll need it.

[grand bluff]

I've had troubles with hypercarry Umbre. Any tips on how to defeat Umbre?

[cursive echo]

no one plays

[unique ether]

yea im being matched by 1300 and less mmr players

[bronze canopy]

yeah its as if spamming the same deck with 0 variation for days on end is boring

[zenith mortar]

i been matching in less than a minute

multiple multiple games

[smoky python]

How to say you have low elo without saying you have low elo

[zenith mortar]

i mean i'm still at 1500

[smoky python]

I think Zodd is prolly 2k

[zenith mortar]

get worse

get on my level

[smoky python]

#ZoddsFault

[brazen quarry]

And you wonder why people make smurfs

[fallen vortex]

Zodd sucks. He was spamming blazenite empath like a chump

[bronze canopy]

zeptyle god banned for 2 weeks for saying that about viper

[zenith mortar]

the bot scales based on warnings... multiple offenses... scales your level of warning

[bronze canopy]

yea maybe but syaing someone sucks is not an offense

its just your opinion

[zenith mortar]

its def considered an offense

[bronze canopy]

damn scoriox on thin ice then

poor zodd not only sucks but also is a chump

[smoky python]

Lol everything is an offense here

[halcyon nova]

wasnt as easy at it looks

what is api ...a bot ?

I confused him or her with my RNG

[reef basalt]

considering he got muted for tagging so many people in general hes suspectible to another mute

[halcyon nova]

Crystal need help review here auto ban please

[cursive echo]

@fallen vortex you had no luck the day I tested the empath team I met you otherwise I never play empath

[cursive echo]

you are the only one who knows my level💰

[clever garden]

Guys, almost pro. Need to start looking for a sponsor. Maybe McDonalds would be good. I would be ok with 1 free happy meal per day.

[brazen quarry]

Does that mean I get 6 chicken nuggets?

[clever garden]

Yeah, I can see that this is possible. And maybe an ice-cream on top.

[brazen quarry]

[velvet wyvern]

Almost reached 1,9 then 5lose streak 🤣💀

[fallen vortex]

Did he really?? That's wild 🤣🤣🤣

[bronze canopy]

i was 1 lp away from 2k, then started playing non meta

i think i nearing 1700 kek

[bronze canopy]

tell me about it

[fallen vortex]

🤣🤣🤣 I lost so many points lol. But I got some back on you the other day when u tried it again 😛 so I don't feel so cheated 🤣🤣

[fallen vortex]

I got to that point where everyone figured out what broke the game then lost like 20 straight lmao. Haven't played since patch tho so excited to try new stuff

[bronze canopy]

nothing new, just the meta got weaker

empatsh still dominate for the most part

arcanite are storng but no broken augement

now ppl play harbingers

and umbre

[fallen vortex]

I had a feeling thatd appear. The untargetable makes it pretty hard to stop

[bronze canopy]

nah its pretty easy to stop

just clump up

[fallen vortex]

In my experience vamp is highly specialised in most games. The ability to give anything vamp is very dangerous

[halcyon nova]

Wifie needs to be up at 4am tomorrow wont be back untill 9pm maybe i can get into trouble on the ladder tomorrow

[bronze canopy]

harbinger umbre is VERY expensive to get into mmotion

[fallen vortex]

Also vamp doesn't work properly

[bronze canopy]

usually you survive with 1 life left

so play cheap units clump

and domnate

[fallen vortex]

Vamp includes overkill damage by the looks

Makes it way harder to stop

[bronze canopy]

maybe but you have a lot of augements that reduce healing

[edgy flower]

im still lost to fknig empath on that umbre comp D:

[bronze canopy]

yep

[fallen vortex]

Oh it's beatable. But you definitely can't be asleep at the keyboard when u come up against jt

[bronze canopy]

the umbre harbinger needs dualeph build up availale in the deck

vs empatsh

[fallen vortex]

The 1 augment change is going to make vamp way stronger imo. Since crushing healing is harder

[bronze canopy]

because dualeph just anihilated empatsh

[halcyon nova]

I killed the terror bird in 5 seconds the only problem is i forgott how

[edgy flower]

it work only for 1 round, until empath didnt move 1 unit and change dualeph target, no?

[fallen vortex]

Use gauntlet. Split their targets

[bronze canopy]

yes positioning vs empatsh is very sensitive, but thast why uou need umbre

kill that one unit fast

[fallen vortex]

You just need Ur front line to survive long enough

For 2 casts

[halcyon nova]

Im thinking to beat the empaths it like NFL strong front line and a good quarter back

make them rush and smash um

I have a thory but not tested yet

[edgy flower]

wen stream and show all skill to positioning? : )

[bronze canopy]

empaths dominate for a reason

you need no skill

but im too bored playing the same deck

and creating a new one is too much effort

i tried to do it on stream

almost gave up on life

and then it was shit

[edgy flower]

i can gift you some deck to play 🙂

[bronze canopy]

if its good, you better use it to promote your own stream

[edgy flower]

i will in a few hours i guess

[cursive echo]

I went from 1900 to 1600 because I tried 1000 different teams

[daring shuttle]

Anyone else having trouble getting into the team-builder?

[reef basalt]

logout and log back in is what im reading as a solution

[daring shuttle]

That worked, thanks!

[hearty yew]

can we see the "omni vamp" somewhere somehow?

[dull wind]

doesn't the umbre omega have a limited range?

[mild sinew]

am i earning anything if i am playing illuvium arena?

[languid sparrow]

Experience.

[brazen quarry]

fun

[mild sinew]

ok

[harsh falcon]

i need some deck recommendations

whats the meta ?>

i copied vipers deck but i get rekt by fire/rogue

[zenith bough]

You should probably try to play a deck at least 20 times before judging it. So you know the ins and outs of it

[dark vine]

well, that is a bit of a concern I have atm. Since, the deck building part of the game has such a high impact, most people don't want to share the best decks.
With decent game understanding a 1600 rated player can play a good deck and win quite often against a 1900 because you always have access to all of your cards... So, you can just do the same thing over and over without giving extra thought. That means you can copy decks AND gameplay within minutes... copying decks is ok, but being able to catch on the gameplay part instantly is not.
At the moment I feel the game needs another component that needs additional skills while playing (outside of deck building).
Not sure maybe additional random ingame abilities, the option to assign movement vectors on the fly, several banning phases in which I can ban certain cards from my opponents deck or I don't know...Something that gives a worse deck with a better player an edge.

[smoky python]

The game right now is a flowchart as long as you have the decklist and are a competent player.
That's why for the first Inferno Tournament me and Smartass made a big effort to hide our deck from everyone and we dominated
The team is well aware of this feedback and hopefully they implement new ideas or go for a game redisgn to fix things.

[still sorrel]

Holy Shit... come back is real!!
The steam umbre meta is really hard to deal with.

[storm tundra]

Do crits grant more energy gain then a normal attack?

[storm tundra]

I think if all the weaker spells

Would be improved to not just be purely powerfully stronger

But add more strategic, intelligent additions and improvements whilst buffing at the same time

With more viable monsters, much more variable playstyles can be had

Plus another 20 illuvials coming first set is still incomplete

Maybe they can give ranger a bonus item slot so it can freely chose a specilisation

Maybe a robot with conditional abilities etc, add some RNG element etc but keep it minimal

[grand bluff]

@cyan olive GG xD

[cyan olive]

uff gg

[south glacier]

no

[vivid stirrup]

got some decks you can try out on my youtube channel fam!

[little quail]

@dark scaffold nice game!

[dark scaffold]

i had big hopes for my new positioning 🤣

[azure wigeon]

Beside the meta. We need to learn how to play

[zealous vortex]

what do you folks reckon is the most powerful round 1 setup? best I've found so far is Pho + the 40 mp attack augment + 10mp weapon on ranger

[bronze canopy]

im pretty sure a simple rypterus and the toxic bull beats that

[brazen quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/toxic-music-video-britney-spears-britney-britney-toxic-britney-spears-toxic-gif-22171945

[zealous vortex]

I need some kind of practise mode where I can play against myself to test out stuff

or get friends lol

[elder estuary]

Rypterus + cardulox (the middle one, I might have gotten the name wrong) + ranger with shield (triple toxic)

[zealous vortex]

didnt they nerf toxic?

[elder estuary]

Not sure but that’s an extremely strong R1 opener

[dark vine]

@cyan olive

[cyan olive]

idk impostor lol

maybe bug as well, think my que canceled and didnt load

[dark vine]

I believe you suffered from a bug and got to matches at the same time

[cyan olive]

rip

@dark scaffold is this a bug that exists?

[dark vine]

hmm, at least your rating seems to be alright

you had 1986 and won 6 = 1992
and against me you lost 16 but it seems that got overwriten

[dark scaffold]

i'm not aware of one like this, hit "B" 🙏

[dark vine]

yeah, I will try to explain this but I can't provide a good screenshot via ingame

[dark scaffold]

explaining should be fine, you can attach the screenshot you have included here 🔥

[copper robin]

spore on vermi stops umbre then just add something to kill it

spore will drop a lot, people dont see it yet 😄

[tulip tiger]

hmu anytime 🙂

[jagged summit]

Second computer :p or multi instance? XD

[harsh falcon]

@vivid stirrup your water/twunami deck is killer

Big win ratio in silver atm

Essy to understand and learn

Keep em commin

[mental summit]

@vernal forum Hello there

[vernal forum]

sup

[vivid stirrup]

awesome! THIS is why i do them videos! happy you got value from it

[mental summit]

Just met your smurf. Or some1 pretending you ^^

[vernal forum]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-me-mario-it-me-super-mario-nintendo-gif-12848561

[worn frigate]

What if we put in a random patch at a certain time each day and keep its contents private?
As it is now, I think the strongest decks will just be replaced after the patch, and after a while, people will just keep playing with similar decks.
Augments also change randomly every day, so there is no point in researching them each time.
I think it's good if you enjoy bugs too.

[steel oak]

There just needs to be MUCH bigger decks. You need to be able to counter depending on what your opponent is playing. As long as each tactic has something which beats it, you have a balanced game, so long as you have access to the counter mid game. Only way I see this issue being resolved sustainably.

[jagged summit]

I think it’s fair to say everyone wants a larger deck

Doesn’t entirely change the issue of the flowchart feel though at least if you have two good players there won’t necessarily always be the issue of one likely having a deck that works better against the other

[tall maple]

Is there currently an exploit with Rake and Umbre or ar they just quite broken?

[vivid stirrup]

At first, I felt exactly the same: not enough space for all the options I wanted to bring. After a longer time played, now when I build a deck, it feels like I can bring some counter options for every scenario, but I have to sacrifice one path if I want to double down on another. I ended up liking the balance of it.

The limitation of choices adds depth to the game, as it forces you to make strategic decisions and trade-offs.
Giving all the perfect counter options would also benefit the less polarizing teams, which could shift the meta into an unwaned direction.

Just my 2 cents ^^

[warped ocean]

that bug is still happening where it returns the mastery points and everything put on board

[cyan olive]

I think people bring "flowchart" feel onto themselfs by playing 8 illuvial teams, can play more than 1 wincon for sure and deviate depending on enemy team.
I have been using a different wincon vs front to back and one vs rogues in most of my teams with no problems, sometimes up to 3 different options vs niche matchups, cutting down on augments for lower lategame cap is okay, just move more midgame to force the other person to spend points on that instead of their augments or kill them earlier than turn 7

[hallow notch]

Originally felt the same way, but I agree. Seems like 28 is about right.

[rare meteor]

glad im not the only one 🤣

[fallen vortex]

Is grit/resolve or resistances calced first??

[fallen vortex]

Dw we all in the same boat

Resistances would have to be calced first surely hmmm

[mental summit]

Actually it's grit/resolve first, if nothing had changed

[supple cave]

i feel like Vermilliare line needs a faster omega cast. that thing takes like 5 seconds to cast!

[reef basalt]

Flat out number then remainder you apply the percentage reduction.

Ex. 20 grit reduction + 40% grit damage reduced on 100 is 80 (100-20) less 40% = 32 damage received

[fallen vortex]

Your formula is missing a step I didn't quite follow. So grit occurs first? Then physical res?

[fallen vortex]

That makes sense. It would be pretty bonkers the other way around

[reef basalt]

I may have fumbled the terminology but its the flat out reduction then percentage reductions. (Damage - flat reduction) x (Percentage Reduction) = Damage Received

[fallen vortex]

Ahhh sweet yeah

Damn kinda ruins an idea I had

[summer frigate]

@bitter cypress gg son

[bitter cypress]

XD

[summer frigate]

Outplayed

https://tenor.com/view/cool-im-so-tom-cruise-gif-13209253

[bitter cypress]

yeaaa seems water is better than air with empath

[zenith mortar]

https://www.twitch.tv/sunbaconrelaxer

Hes live playing Illuvium

[smoky python]

Someone help him out. Out of the house right now

[azure wigeon]

Not broken. Umbre still lose to all rogue and rhampyre

[grand bluff]

I've won against those team comps with Umbre.

I find Umbre vs Umbre harder.

Or vs Empaths.

[thick rune]

ho wcan i add a templar on my team, im confused with the composite classes

[grand bluff]

Well by using Templar units 😂

But if you mean to get your ranger to have Templar class, you wanna bind them to the proper Illuvial. So if ur ranger is using the Empath Staff, you wanna bind to an Illuvial with a dominant Fighter class. But if ur ranger is using the Fighter Blade, you wanna bind them to an Illuvial with a dominant Empath class. Fyi, templar = empath + fighter.

[thick rune]

okk got it yeah it was for my ranger. Thanks a lot

[obtuse summit]

Will Rhamphy and Rhamphyte add fire bonus if both is on the field?

[zenith bough]

1 fire in total. And then a rouge and phantom

[thick rune]

So i have fernite and blaznight, both templar, fighter dominant, and i bing my ranger using a empath staff with my blazenight but it says i still only have 2 templar?

[grand bluff]

Blazenite and Fernite are Illuvials of the same line (line is like species) with different stage (stage is like evolution level).

When u play same-species Illuvials of different stages, the overlapping class and affinity synergy don't stack.

So it only counts your Ranger's Templar + 1 from Blazenite/Fernite = so total 2 Templars.

But Fernite is Nature and Blazenite is Wildfire. So it does count separately on the Nature and Wildfire synergy count because the affinities don't overlap.

[reef basalt]

@gritty wren damn that augment list is so hard to choose

[gritty wren]

haha yes

[steel oak]

Thanks, great points about forcing the game mid round. Good to know you can deal with the meta if you know what you’re doing!

[obtuse summit]

Is there a % lost when seeling a illuvitar in battle? say i want to replace a 25 mastery point on the field to a 65 mastery point. how much loss in mastery point for seeling the 25?

[jade pecan]

End up which augment?

[reef basalt]

We canceled each other out 3 on meteor 1 on steal energy.

My team had granite so all 4 were viable hahaha

[rose spruce]

I prefer Stellar Devourer over anything

[rose spruce]

I think thats me lol

[manic oriole]

any leaderbord for arena?

[brazen quarry]

Not yet but ...

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[reef basalt]

That meteor with stun is just too good tbh. It stuns 3 different units each time but yeah stellar devourer is a solid pick

[vague karma]

the wave and meteor together is gg

[velvet wyvern]

Will be there some penalty if you just grind up to 2100and stay there without playing forever?
Like in LOL there is a decay

[vivid stirrup]

15% of illuvial+augment cost for moving
25% for selling

[sudden gyro]

i was hoping to get a few peoples opinion's on my team it took me a while to figure out and it definitely isn't the most straightforward team but i find since my recent changes i've been winning a lot more https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/cdf7a221-d6aa-434c-a76d-7ef984cf938f feel free to give me some tips I am new

[thick rune]

ok yeah i understand, makes sense. But its weird i played this guy who also had the same setup but he had 3 templar

[grand bluff]

He must have bid for the Legendary Augment that grants an extra Templar class.

[thick rune]

ohh ok...when you bid and you receive it..how do you activate it?

[grand bluff]

Mm, you use it on an Illuvial of yours that doesn't have Templar class alr.

[thick rune]

ok cool

thanks

[grand bluff]

So say you have Atlas, Templar Ranger, and Blazenite. U have 2 templars now.

You equip Atlas with that Templar augment, now you have 3 Templar. Atlas's Bulwark still counts as 1 Bulwark. So it's like Atlas has dual-class.

[thick rune]

damn ok

thats nice

[grand bluff]

👍🏻

[hearty yew]

Any idea when there will be a next patch? 95% play Umbre and sometimes he kills a whole team alone... so broken

[bronze canopy]

patch wont change anything

if its not umbre its something else

[dark vine]

hmm, I see quite a lot different decks around 1900. I would say we have like 4 meta decks atm and only one of them uses umbre

oh, maybe this rogue air/fire deck is still a thing, so, maybe 5?

[hearty yew]

Thats for sure, but this is more broken than before.
I am sick of playing mirror matches which are just about which umbre casts first.

[bronze canopy]

yeah thats how this game currently goes

need a gameplay change

[hearty yew]

My last 15 games... not a single one without all in on umbre

[bronze canopy]

buffs and nerfs wont do anything, its always going to be something thats meta

and being spammed all across the ladder

[dark vine]

lucker... that is my best match up give them to me I want that rating 😄

[hearty yew]

If its like that... than its boring after 4h playing^^

[bronze canopy]

yep

[hearty yew]

Game 16 in a row with umbre...

[bronze canopy]

day 1, 80% matches full fire combo

day 2-3 full empath spammers

day 4-7 scoriox broken augement spam

now umbre

i might have missed something

[hearty yew]

Yes, but it was not borken like now

[bronze canopy]

trsut me it was

it was even more broken

you can counter umbre

you cant counter broken empaths overlaping shield

with no augements allowing to bypass dodge

[dark vine]

yeah, as I said umbre is my best match up atm

you can counter it

[bronze canopy]

or scoriox 600% more scaling damage augement

[hearty yew]

how can you beat this lame umbre?

[sudden gyro]

i beat umbre with this deck quite abit https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder/cdf7a221-d6aa-434c-a76d-7ef984cf938f

[hearty yew]

Tell me the deck which wins agianst it and i make a 100% win rate ^^

[sudden gyro]

umbre is weak to bulwark and aegis units in the back i use them to protect my invokers and it works pretty well

[hearty yew]

when umbre uses his omega

all turn away

and he heals

[sudden gyro]

lol i root and stun

then seeforus kinda craps on him

[still sand]

some umbre have cleanse

[sudden gyro]

true but its hard for them to deal with aegis and bulwarks it's a extremely resistant comp

[still sand]

facts

[sudden gyro]

then if you go magma in my team they hate it so do rogues xD

[grand bluff]

The thing is Umbre isn't the only problem in the deck. Shrimp and the Granite Invoker also cause a lot of trouble if not killed.

[sudden gyro]

scroll up look through my team you'll see why umbre really struggles

[hearty yew]

Game 17 in a row vs umbre...

[grand bluff]

Hm I'll try it out. What's the strategy vs Umbre and non-Rogue teams? Just stack them up?

[sudden gyro]

honestly it's not the easist team to learn but you want to stack em up in the back keep invoker and harbringers by aegis units

[south glacier]

Put anything that is invulnerable (granite/augment) or indomitable where he lands. Then he will be trapped for a long time. With fighters or a Seeforus Omega he can be taken down before he scales his damage

[grand bluff]

What would you say is the Twine for and the usual order to play the Illuvials (like turn 1, 2, 3 play which Illuvials)?

[hearty yew]

I played that. He casts his omega, all turn arround..

[sudden gyro]

@grand bluff you will relink abit and sometimes that means recalling a unit to re put it back down but once you get to know what synergies you want in certain match up's you'll be fine and against umbre and rogues singe and earth weapons first always

[grand bluff]

Hm okay I'll try it now xD Cause I'm sick of mirror Umbre matchups.

[sudden gyro]

they may win round 1 but round 2 and 3 are generally easy wins

[sudden gyro]

let me know how it goes

[south glacier]

The Problem isn't Umbre I would say. The problem are the augment spam. It's not fun playing agains a team with Umbre, Dualeph and Seeforus having all Indomitable so that you can't take down the damage dealers. I think it will be way more fun when you can only play an augment once on the whole board. But idk if that patch is still in the works or if there are already other ideas to fix this

[grand bluff]

YES! EXACTLY.

[grand bluff]

And the ridiculous Lifesteal stacking

[sudden gyro]

i agree they're is an augment that on omega your team gains energy equal to cost and it breaks archeleon makes my ophisto omega more then his double cast can proc

[grand bluff]

Indomitable gives the Umbre enough time to charge his ult and heal back to full 🙂

[south glacier]

But they should not run too far and Umbre will come back targeting the indomitable illuvial again? at least thats how I saw it watching others. And Umbre's first Omega isn't too bad

Yes. The whole problem right now is stacking augments. Not some specific Illuvial. I would not nerf single Illuvials before the augment problem isn't solved

And btw I am annoyed too playing against the exact same team every day. I mean you could build a team to counter it. But it is no fun just playing for a single setup

[sudden gyro]

ohh btw for the one augment grit gives flat physical damage reduction and resolve energy this helps to know to counter specific comps

[hearty yew]

Game 18 in a row against umbre.. Maybe its even everone but me? ^^

[hearty yew]

I can put all to make this work, but than i get destryed from the invokers on the other side since its a all in vs umbre trapping

And when they move umbre a little bit... i lost about 640 due to a little possition change after this all in

[south glacier]

That's why I said they need to change the augment spam. Then it would be way more tactic involved and you actually have to think what augment to put on what illuvial, instead of putting indomitable on every damage dealer.

Or you can focus a specific Illuvial that is most dangerous because of its augments

[sudden gyro]

i don't put indombitable on my damage dealer when i give my aegises the resist augment he becomes pretty tanky then if he becomes a harbringer it's over he becomes a literal tank

[hearty yew]

Wow game 19 and its no Umbre... but I feel like im not motivated anymore 😂 😂 😂

[south glacier]

How does you aegis become a harbinger? Or am I misunderstanding something?

[south glacier]

Do you even remember how to play against non Umbre teams after all these games?😂

[sudden gyro]

not aegis i uses aegis units to protect my damage dealer's with the resist augment and if ophisto becomes a harbringer he becomes a literal tank

[south glacier]

But Ophisto is an Invoker? Do you mean you bond your ranger with Ophisto for the harbinger class?

[hearty yew]

yes he is

[sudden gyro]

at the beginning of the game and in round 3 when your choosing the random augments if harbringer appears you can bid and take it give it too ophisto

then he's a invoker and harbringer

[south glacier]

Now I get it. But that augment isn't available in every game. But I know what you mean

[sudden gyro]

yea i know it's not a needed thing if it comes up though it's amazing

[hearty yew]

Nice since I get Silver players now: Second game without an Umbre

you just need to lose 18 games in a row first ^^

[south glacier]

You should make a youtube guide out of it. "How to avoid Umbre 100% of the time"😂

[hearty yew]

My current opponent seems to be as motivated as I am: Round 4 and we have ranger vs ranger

Seems like the default weopon is better than Earth Naboot III ^^

Guess ill take a break until someone finds a way to deal with it or there will be changes

[sudden gyro]

I have a team that can deal with umbre it's not easy to learn thought but once you do umbre teams have a hard time and they generally default to invokers which honestly doesn't counter my team at all xD

[hearty yew]

I wrote you via pm some minutes ago (since i dont get how to play it) 🙂

[sudden gyro]

i'll join the voice channel it will be easier that way xD

[rancid timber]

If I get hyper with a rogue illuvial and it boosts other rogues, does this include composite classes with a rogue dominance?

[thick rune]

is there a place we can see how many games weve played

[zenith bough]

It’s only the hyper unit that gets affected

Nothing else

[edgy flower]

It says "rogues" because all rogues have the same hyper, so in game only 5 different hyper boosts

[rancid timber]

So at the bottom for hyper where it says “rogues also gain 30%…” What does that mean?

Unit gains 25% attack speed makes sense for just this unit, but “rogues also gain” is what I’m trying to understand

[fair hemlock]

since it has a dominant rogue class, it will gain 30% crit amp when it becomes hyper.

but this is true for all rogues when they go hyper. So, all rogues who go hyper will gain 30% crit amp.....

[rancid timber]

Why the distinction between “this unit” for attack speed and “also rogues” for crit? Why wouldnt it just say this unit for both?

Unit gains x attack speed and z crit would make more sense, no?

[fair hemlock]

it also says: "Upon becoming hyper, units gain 25% attack speed'

This doesn't make it that all your units gain 25% attack speed when one unit becomes hyper.

All units, regardless of class will gain 25% attack speed when the unit itself becomes hyper.

Umbre becomes hyper -> Umbre gains 25% attack speed.

But there is a dominant trait here, the rogue class. Since you chose Rogue as its dominant trait, it álso gains a Rogue buff when it becomes hyper ->
Umbre (rogue) becomes hyper -> Umbre gains 30% crit amp...

if you had chosen fighter, it would have said -> Fighters also gain 25% attack speed and pierce defence on every X attacks (orso)

[fair hemlock]

probably, but this has to do with one thing being for all units, and the other for specific classes.

[rancid timber]

I get what your saying, but why not just say “this unit gets X and Y” instead of this unit gets X and “rogues also get Y”

[fair hemlock]

because it would be true for all rogues, and all units.
Yes it is a little confusing, but if you understand that certain classes gain X attributes, it makes the structure more easily understandable.

If they had said for umbre; This unit gains 25% attack speed and 30% crit amp.
And on Slappin it stated: This unit gains 25% attack speed and 30% crit amp

You may not realise it is because of their class or general buff. You may start checking out all Rogues for their buff, and realise it's all the same.

[rancid timber]

Totally get it now. But maybe it would make more sense if it just said “all units get 25% attack speed” instead of “this unit”

All units get 25% speed and also rogues get 30% crit

[fair hemlock]

That would make it sound like all units gain a bonus when a single unit becomes hyper.

[rancid timber]

But it already makes it sound like all rogues get the bonus haha

It’s just not consistent. One way or the other

[fair hemlock]

it is consistent.
Units gain 25 % attack speed
Rogues gain 30% crit amp.

[rancid timber]

I might have read this wrong initially and never corrected myself I kept thinking “unit gains” not “units gain”

The difference it makes when you most the S haha

[fair hemlock]

I do that all the time, with any text i read 😄

[rancid timber]

Oops

Anyways thanks for clearing that up

[opaque cape]

@cyan olive its me 😄

[vast flare]

We totally need an EMOTE for any of the Lynxes in a Box!
If he fits, he sits! 🐈 📦 😻

[jagged summit]

At that point it doesn't really matter, You can put the info for rogues somewhere else and on the specific illuvial just say what they get for the hyper directly. If it isn't actually affecting all rogues on the board it's bad english and misleading players more so than not directly stating it's because the unit is a rogue.

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/here-take-my-money-take-my-money-pay-the-man-pay-it-now-just-pay-the-money-gif-23950346

wen deck slots and battleboards?

[dark vine]

Just thinking: Predator isn't much of a thing atm but would the execute cut through survival protocol?

[eager portal]

What kind of augmentation can be opposed to Vampiric Price, which will reduce its properties?

[wheat sable]

ok reinstalled, Umbre ftw it seems now. Fun fun 🙂

[tulip tiger]

ban ALT Accounts

[wheat sable]

have to say, beating umbre is fun

[dark vine]

I get that point and I think they will have to go in that direction but tbh. around 2000 you basically can't afford to test anything new because you gain like 3 mmr per game and would lose 15 mmr. The deck is the most important thing and you basically play with a 1500 deck, that still needs like 20 games to optimize everything, on a 2k account.... which also sucks.

[tulip tiger]

thats the name of the game haha

[worldly jolt]

I wonder if vamp counts as healing…
Healing can be reduced. But I suspect that it’s not healing

[delicate wadi]

Good people, tell me what weapon should I take to get an additional bonus (synergy) on Colossus?

[dark vine]

the shield

[worldly jolt]

Colossus is bulwark/bulwark. So you need two of those. Bond with an illuvial that is bulwark dominant while having a shield equipped.

[supple cave]

i think it does. at least it should

i made a really cool deck, but can't beat God Umbre, and everyone is using it lol. damn.

[dark vine]

care testing? Just put a 5 Illuvial predator team together would just need a random Illuvial with survival protocol on your end

7VQB9C

game is still open if somebody is interested to find this out

[ashen harbor]

guys why crashed my game evry time if i start battel. ?

[supple cave]

sry didn't see it

man, i felt like breaking a keyboard today hah

damn game

[thick rune]

Im hooked to this game FUCK

[cyan olive]

Wen Harbinger nerf?

[formal crown]

It doesn't seem that its too strong atm. only when paired with umbre. Could be wrong I haven't really played against a team that had harbringer and not ranger or umbre carry. there has to be a counter to umbre though...

[rare meteor]

Poison
Deals 1% of Max Health as Pure Damage per second. It lasts 5 seconds and stacks up to 5 times. At full stacks, it removes the ability to heal for 3 seconds.

is this part of removing the heal not working ?

[cyan olive]

my + 300 dmg scoriox will get you one day^^

[cyan olive]

I think it is 50% debuff not no heal

[formal crown]

😭😭 no please have been fighting everyone in the top ladder but you for some reason

[cyan olive]

skipped the day, umbre mirror is meh

[formal crown]

Ahh I see I agree to that been making a deck that counters it

[cyan olive]

👀

[signal bane]

why umbre can heal himself when he omega? Is it a bug?

its noob play and really annoying when you kill every illuvial of someone and he fnish you with one illuvial because he heal himself every 4 sek to full hp.

[wicked cloak]

the guy beside him probably has the omnivamp augment, or he himself has it

[signal bane]

no there is no one. i killed every illuvial of him

and he healed himself up to 3-4 time back to full life

[wicked cloak]

well even if you kill the illuvial that gives omnivamp beside him it still gives him omnivamp, its on combat start so he just has it all game no matter what

[signal bane]

wait, if someone gives 20% omni vamp (to the adjacent), then the effect remains even if the original illuvial has died? Does that stack? So if 2 illuvials give omni vamp to their neighbors?

[wicked cloak]

yes

[signal bane]

ah thanks buddy good to know

[hybrid ravine]

Not bad for my first game in months? Just gotta say, wow Illuvium team this has come so far and is amazing! Can't wait to see the whole ecosystem come together. Fantastic work 🙂

[azure wigeon]

Whats the different between Ranked and Leviathan?

[azure wigeon]

Spellvamp allies

[azure wigeon]

Bugs still exist

[worldly jolt]

Could be that your computer hardware can’t handle the game’s graphics.

[halcyon nova]

what grant alt name ???

Vanumbre ????

whipped my ass in casual thought I was gonna comeback last round .....lol

[stray gull]

Von Neumann

[halcyon nova]

somebody impersonating hin in casual then ....would have had him last round but he switch sides and my Ramhpher cast flunked

it was almost am epic comeback

can somebody share the latest team liquid twitch stream link please

[sand hull]

RANK4 Distresscall play 30 WAVES used 11:16,How did he do that

[smoky python]

lol

11:16 is slow

[brazen quarry]

I did horrible today, 16 min

I should be ashamed

Oh nice somebody got to wave 40

[smoky python]

With new augments 40 should be pretty easy

[brazen quarry]

I'm a newb

[still sand]

fight for 0 lol

[hollow orbit]

After Omega, only 20, not 50, energy comes back. Is this a notation error?

[turbid needle]

I don't understand what the award is based on, my rank score is over 1850 with the highest streak being 16

[zenith bough]

Do se have a site that shows how much energy each illuvials need before omega? And starting energy.

[edgy flower]

Illuvimaster do that I guess

[fair hemlock]

We have that as well 🙂

We show their starting and max energy side by side.

Can also filter on starting energy and max energy if you are looking for either one specifically.

[zenith bough]

Can’t find it there

[zenith bough]

Are your info up to date? Got a little worried when I saw the old info on tsunami trait:

The water gain

Also, 200 energy for fluid seems like a lot, but might be correct I guess

[fair hemlock]

The values are up to date. We have been lazy with textual stuff 😅 (me)

[zenith bough]

Cool cool cool¨

Thanks

[cobalt tendon]

Will you manually update the data every patch?

[fair hemlock]

@hoary haven and @languid sparrow found a way to update it basically automatically. So every update we run a script and update it in a few short minutes 🙂

[acoustic sigil]

hope this thing will be fixed with the mmr system, pointless to play the game if you can face 6-700 rating lower players and on defeat you are loosing -100 rating..so frustrating thing..

[supple cave]

anyone wanna do some training battles, try some different decks against the meta ones?

[safe stirrup]

@west quartz gg lol longest match ever

[azure wigeon]

how to beat empath?

[west quartz]

you can't with umbre harbinger

either with a fire ramphire comp or a invoker team

[azure wigeon]

invoker?

[grand bluff]

Your Ranger's omega with 70 MP is strong against Empath.

[coarse echo]

the text is wrong. It's 20.

[azure wigeon]

do u hv the build to try?

[hallow notch]

We really need this info on the illuvial info cards that pop up in game. Helps augments a lot

[hallow notch]

Me too. Player 10 hours the other day

[vernal forum]

Hello! Where do we report bugs? I am having an issue in the later rounds of battles where it just completely removes all of the moves I made during the countdown before starting the next round. There are a bunch of error codes showing up on the right side of the screen as well. '

[bronze canopy]

press B in game

[zenith bough]

Umbre is ruining the game for me.. the fact that it can’t get targeted and every one of your illuvials runs away is such a bad interaction. Position matters so little, and if you try to counter with attack slow it ends ups up being a 50/50 on whether or not you hit it.

At least one could position against empath to consistently win. Damn.

[rain zinc]

I disliked a lot the way umbre comps are working, maybe someone find something to literraly stop it

[supple cave]

even so, it's not a fun mirror match at all, having 2 god umbres fighting and hoping to win. It's the least fun possible to have on the game

[west quartz]

empath wins vs umbre

[supple cave]

certainly not the one with lesses t0s, i guess

[west quartz]

the new one with bulwark and the tank that create a dodge zone

[supple cave]

cant win againt the deck most people are using with umbre + invokers

and if you get an invoker aug on umbre hahaha, its so funny

and sad at the same time

[west quartz]

invoker umbre must be fun 😄

[high stream]

true,all guys use umbre rn

[west quartz]

well, it used to be a trash unit before all the nerfs, it's fun to finally see it be useful imo

[zenith bough]

I 100% agree. What’s missing is the counter play (without making a deck that only counters that 1 Illuvial)
I think it’s du to the can’t target skill, that makes positioning matters so little, it doesn’t come close to making you win a game

[rain zinc]

Yeah, i agree, but i think its the start of the "new meta" maybe soon we find something. I really dont like a comp that positioning does not matter, thats why i can drop into 1300 mmr but i will try to not play umbre

Btw i think that umbre has always been there, but we just found now, maybe something can coutner it and we need time

[bronze canopy]

if you wanna find what counters it, play the build and see how you lose

thats the fastest way

[rain zinc]

yeah, i agree! its just a mtter of time

[dark vine]

have to agree with smart ass ... today I saw a no umbre deck around 2k which was really strong

can see decks that win 5 games

😄 winning against umbre without that its ok 🙂

[zenith bough]

Oh this makes me so happy. Does it beat any other deck, or only umbre?

[dark vine]

friday?

[zenith bough]

Hope you’re right. Haven’t seen anything that I thought couldn’t be played around except umbre. Maybe I am attacking it wrong. 🤔

[dark vine]

didn't know that this is confirmed already