🎮〕illuvium-arena

[fallen vortex]

Screw it imma make a video

and break the meta

❤️

[minor quest]

glad the team is addressing water gauntlet and empaths

i think they need to take a hard look at base affinities and classes too. Composite teams are super lame rn

[fallen vortex]

Who said they are?

[minor quest]

Ben in discord

[fallen vortex]

good then i wont feel bad making fun of these teams

[quartz spade]

What actually is water gauntlet?

[minor quest]

water psion weapon for the ranger

[fallen vortex]

ridiculously op

[minor quest]

its too good right now

it one shots every illuvial it touches with the right setup

[quartz spade]

I should pay attention to the meta more

I've probably been fucked by it like 20 times without knowing

[stray gull]

That sounds like some 1200 rating type of attitude 😂

[minor quest]

To be fair i played a deck that was 10-0 against 1800-2000K plus players and it didnt require any brainpower

so when its super busted it kinda degenerates quickly

[fallen vortex]

Hahaha it was so cheesy

[fallen vortex]

I mean I could spam water gauntlet and get as high as I want lol

[stray gull]

I dunno man, Empath slays Water Gauntlet

[minor quest]

yep

[fallen vortex]

dont get me started

[stray gull]

I've had to build a fire team because I'm tanking rating

[minor quest]

can it beat empath?

[stuck scroll]

Tomorrow is the big launch?

[minor quest]

ya

[brazen quarry]

beta launch <t:1701201600:R>

[stuck scroll]

I see, where can I learn how to play the game? Where can I read a wiki about the letters?

[minor quest]

artemis and Viper are creating really great youtube videos

on the basics

i would start there

and play around with the team builder on the website

[stuck scroll]

I don't know how to understand English, I only use a translator so it would be difficult to learn through videos... for me it's easier on pages.

[stuck scroll]

Is it a demo of the game?

[minor quest]

no its where you build your team to play in the arena game

[stuck scroll]

where can I do this?

[minor quest]

create an account on the illuvium site and click on arena, and scroll down. there will be an option to click on the team builder

[stuck scroll]

ohhh! thank you very much!

Will all the cards in the build be available tomorrow?

[stray gull]

Not again Spike

[minor quest]

not all of them, but a lot of them

[stray gull]

@serene lance

[austere prism]

@fallen vortex where was your healing coming from then?

[stuck scroll]

Will there be a tournament?

[serene lance]

Mm yummy Rhamphyre deck for me to eat up

[spark dagger]

The First is on December 3rd

[minor quest]

you playin some toxic mud colassus stuff?

[serene lance]

Water gauntlet and empath rush cant stop me

[minor quest]

play me then

no way u win

[stuck scroll]

perfect so I will have time to learn the game

[minor quest]

empath too stronk

[spark dagger]

Though make sure to register for it, not sure how many spots are left

[serene lance]

M66G97

[spark dagger]

posted the link to the twitter post in community content

[cursive echo]

@vernal forum bug ?

[vernal forum]

yeah

something about removing a unit with augments on it

[zenith bough]

Who won?

[minor quest]

im playing

the cheesiest deck of all time

lol

[serene lance]

hahaha gg

[minor quest]

gg

im not proud of it

it's Zazu's creation

[serene lance]

you have another 13 hours to enjoy it

[minor quest]

im glad its leaving. i stopped playing it after i played like 8 games with it

too stronk

[serene lance]

this is what early access is for

at least it wont be there on launch and make all the new players hate the game xD

[minor quest]

ya

[hearty sleet]

Water gaunt is cheat code. I was wondering why my illuvials were dying so fast

[minor quest]

pewpew

[fallen vortex]

I actually have no idea

I built the water team and it was healing somehow

[fallen vortex]

It will be

He said 29th

Or is that the day? Mine r blending together

[serene lance]

Well it launches 6am the 29th in AUS for me, so maybe they mean at launch? Otherwise i guess if its the next day its not that bad, just gonna be a lot of newbies getting wrecked by 7 empath xD

[fallen vortex]

Ngl tho water might become crap after its fixed

[serene lance]

Idk how long it takes to patch things, but i figured at least with damage nerfs such as gauntlet its as easy as going into the files and lowering a number and saving it so i dont see why it couldnt be done for the launch patch? Maybe the launch patch is already pre uploaded and they dont want to alter it?

[fallen vortex]

Aaron has stated its all spreadsheets

But

It sounds like a bug in the way it's stacking

Which is more complex

[serene lance]

Water will still be good with illuvials that have good omegas, its just gauntlet that needs the nerf right now imo

Yeah true, maybe they need a day to figure out whats even happening

At least theyre on top of it already

[fallen vortex]

I think they know

[serene lance]

gives me confidence

[supple cave]

is there a way to increase maximum energy?

[fallen vortex]

Why would u want to do that

[serene lance]

As in slow the enemy down from omegaing?

Air does that

[fallen vortex]

And there's a few augmente

Augments

[supple cave]

there are augments with effects based on maximum energy

[fallen vortex]

Really?

There's energy removal

Slow energy gain

Im not sure I've seen raise maximum energy

[serene lance]

Show us what youre talking about

[fallen vortex]

There's the siphon matrix

[serene lance]

Oh he means like 'when you cast your omega, give your allies omega power equal to 30% of your omega cost'

Nah i dont think there is any way to increase maximum energy

That would also mean your illuvial takes longer to cast its omega anyway

N3JFFZ

[supple cave]

there is a legendary augment that gives 400% shield based on max energy, for example.

maybe it should just say (gives x shield), since all have the same max energy

shit, almost 4am and I can't stop playing

Illuvium, you are breaking me!

[fallen vortex]

Not all have the same max energy

every illuvial is different

rypters is 40 for example

or at least it was in survival

[hearty sleet]

Gg. Magma is pretty tough

[fallen vortex]

U stack grit enough

and eventually u r unkillable

If there was a good rogue that healed nearby allies, rogue would be broken

i have been wondering if u could do like a spore staff ranger thats rogue

[topaz lion]

How do you unbond ranger

It’s killing me

[minor quest]

lol @zenith bough we have the same idea

[smoky python]

Revenant

Welcome to first patch of PB2 🙂

JPP

[spare frigate]

you have to remove the unit its bonded to

[supple cave]

how are people making blazenight cast like a machine gun?

[spare frigate]

@topaz lion Ggaming - same decks different result xD

[jovial prawn]

when does beta go live?

[zenith bough]

I love that deck. 😄

[raven obsidian]

8pm utc - roughly 13 hours

[hearty sleet]

I’ve never played an autobattler before but this game is sooo addicting

[minor quest]

just wait until you own what you place on the board 😄

[supple cave]

I keep testing some bizarre decks that don't work and losing rank nonstop haha, but it's been fun

keep trying to find something off meta that will work

[minor quest]

well the "meta" is going to change a lot by tomorrow. all the empath lulcows willl have to play something else

and gauntlet pew pews

[hearty sleet]

Yea crazy to think about

And we are not playing for anything

[lilac grail]

I though that truesight was that the unit cannot miss anymore. But it only resist to the blind effect.
Nothing to counter full air dodge. and with the empath cumulative bonus. the no caster have no chances

[safe stirrup]

@hearty sleet wp

@hearty sleet that was something

[hearty sleet]

gg

thought i had you

[safe stirrup]

same, thought i was fked

[hearty sleet]

i thought you were tanking the first time so i just played some random stuff lol

[safe stirrup]

@night spindle gg

how many hype people are there? @opaque cape compared to xborgs

[supple cave]

MAAAN, this thing of removing ALL you did on the round right when it begins is soooooo bad.... please fix it

[night spindle]

1st match u took my cherry 🙂

[safe stirrup]

haha

[night spindle]

i didnt even know how to select the augs lmao

[safe stirrup]

but ur in hype

@twilit storm the bloody reduce attack speed augment gg

[smoky python]

There are like 100 hype players and only a measely 5 of us XBorg guys

[safe stirrup]

wait really

[smoky python]

We are small but powerful

I'm guessing we are still #1 and #2 on leaderboard

but someone could definitely have passed us and we cant see it in game

[safe stirrup]

do guilds usually have 100 people

[smoky python]

Ive got no idea exactly how many people play under the HYPE tag but its a lot

and certainly more than anyone else

[dark vine]

which means you guys won 5 matches on a new account? 😛

[smoky python]

I lost a bunch of matches

Soda beat me in one of my first ones

I think Kyle is something like 11-0

[safe stirrup]

bloody kyle

[twilit storm]

@safe stirrup true..pretty nasty

[dark vine]

maybe he is #1 with that?

[edgy flower]

How can a game designer be in some guild? Isn't that just an obvious advantage compared to others?

[safe stirrup]

@supple cave i just lost against that almost exact same deck, but goddamn its a nice deck

[twilit storm]

@edgy flower it is what it is

[safe stirrup]

Kyle gets a pass cause hes the cool one

[smoky python]

He was already better than you guys before joining the team so stop crying

[safe stirrup]

i member him #1

[twilit storm]

yeah

[edgy flower]

Advantage to all your guild, not for him personally

[twilit storm]

@smoky python don t need any advantage tbh

he s already top tier imho...not a good guy..not friendly but top tier player so far

[smoky python]

Hey

I'm friendly!

[twilit storm]

nah

[smoky python]

https://tenor.com/view/im-extremely-affable-peter-i-want-you-back-im-very-agreeable-no-doubt-that-im-friendly-gif-24731828

[safe stirrup]

sjud is the life of illuvium-arena

[edgy flower]

Now I see why toxic is one of the strongest 😄

[smoky python]

I cant imagine what was going on in here when I was banned

must have been crickets

[twilit storm]

pretty much

your padawan tried but..can t be you..you know

[smoky python]

Thats true I can only teach them how to be so toxic

Incoming 1 million players tomorrow

bring it on

[supple cave]

i need you to teach me how to play better haha

[safe stirrup]

How many do you actually reckon will do it

[smoky python]

no fuckin idea

I'm hoping for a lot

[zenith bough]

Nice gain in rank.

[supple cave]

going to bed... 5:30 am.. i am playing since fucking 18:00

[zenith bough]

A minimum of 1 rank should be a rule

[smoky python]

I'd say more like 5

[young pollen]

what's the best way to plan for a team?

[opaque cape]

the difference between 1700 and 800 is huge though in standard deviations

if its fair ranks then the 1700 should literally never lose

so if you have a 100% winchance, you get 0 points, it makes sense

[raven obsidian]

Can someone explain how health lost is determined please? I heard it was enemy MP on board = health lost. If that's true how can sometimes in 1st round you lose over 100 health when the maximum MP you can spend is 100?

[smoky python]

theres also a base amount you lose depending on the round

I believe Round 1 is 70 + whatever is left

[raven obsidian]

Thank you

Makes sense now cheers

And is it enemy units that are left alive at the end ye?

E.g. if it was titanor and seeforus it would be 155 health lost + base for round?

[smoky python]

Yup

• augments

[opaque cape]

and ranger gear, basically any gold left over on enemy team

[raven obsidian]

Sweet, thanks guys

[zenith bough]

I agree. It's not fun for either player though. So should either have a minimum rank gain to make it interesting or the fight shouldn't happen. Probably won't be an issue after tonight though

[serene lance]

What is the main benefit people seek by being in a guild for illuvium other than social aspect?

Such as Hype, Phantom, Xborg.

[smoky python]

Money, Fame, Glory

But also sharing of strategies

People you can test with who you know are good so you can accurately judge your decks and play

If I want to test my deck against Toxic Collossus do I want to play against someone with 800 mmr or Smartass?

[wheat sable]

Only if a guild would not consume so much time, not possible to combine with kids 😂

[serene lance]

Will the guild expect a cut if you win prize money

[serene lance]

This makes sense, you could do this with anyone you know who is good regardless of being in the same guild though.

[smoky python]

Well if you sign a contract with them that says that. But in that case you'd prolly be getting a salary and other perks

[halcyon nova]

nobody play survial ATM ....but means I might have a chance if I do of making it to the leaderboard gotta be better the meating a psion rock concert team

[smoky python]

Sure it's not guild exclusive at all

[serene lance]

Surely no illuvium guilds have fking contracts at this point lol

[cosmic yoke]

that about to change! 😄

[halcyon nova]

I'll sign up if they buy me a new chair ...i buated my old only already

[halcyon nova]

I will be happy to wake up to the patch for sure

[smoky python]

I believe I was the only one officially signed to an esports team for Illuvium

And yes I had a contract lol

[smoky python]

You can be the God of PB3 Survival

[halcyon nova]

I got a musso seat incoming .......better than nothing

[lusty sleet]

@karmic drum Fantastic game dude

That Water Blaster is absolutely nuts, barely got it under control with the double Team Energy Reduction Augment + Attack Speed Reduction Augment

[halcyon nova]

actualy overworld is cool for learning the augments ...more time to study them after collecting them .....doesnt realy make sense i know but it works for me

I might start play ranked after tomorrow just for a laugh

[serene lance]

wild

[karmic drum]

gg

[smoky python]

Imagine having to abuse Empaths just to win

@opaque cape

[opaque cape]

its compensation for using the weak fire deck for the first 4 days, it balances out

and i still need to win around 640 games in a row to get to your elo from the insane placement bonus mr

[smoky python]

You're just lucky I lost a few matches otherwise you'd need to play 1500 games

[opaque cape]

pretty sure at that point it would be impossible to get to

cause if noone else in that elo range is playing i'd get +0 mostly

[bronze canopy]

empaths are broken and true sight augement doesnt work, otherwise this comp would go down

[opaque cape]

true sight does work

its works through blind, not through disarm

[serene lance]

Land the legendary aug that gives their whole clump the clumsy debuff, that gets you through them

[bronze canopy]

i said it doesnt work through dodge, and ben said it should

[serene lance]

he also said that theres a bug right now where stacking empath omegas gives them extra stuff, maybe thats effecting your true sight, patched on the 29th

[opaque cape]

it does

[bronze canopy]

well i play versus empaths and it doesnt work, maybe it has a % chance to work

if it would work id never loose to that comp

[opaque cape]

i had a berserker monkey punch the shit out of that empath clump

[serene lance]

the mud monkeys have actually ended up being a lot better than i thought

[bronze canopy]

i hate mud

playing versus that is

[serene lance]

@fluid lagoon you have sinned

[serene lance]

u gotta be kidding me

[opaque cape]

whats up 😄 ?

[serene lance]

ur about to 7 empath me

[smoky python]

Yes he is

[west quartz]

Tonight they’ll give us fresh meat to farm 😂

[smoky python]

I refuse to play that garbage

[halcyon nova]

I havent found the quit button yet ?????

[opaque cape]

this is the way

[safe stirrup]

bro i just vsed someone, beat them and then they copied my deck and changed a couple of things

[woven flint]

Can t play yet pvp till the 2 Dec, but man, thx all for making me laugh that much with just reading here !

The game is 5 days old and already people are crying about imba comp ...
Good luck devs, because just with that small sample we can tell there will be alot of whining

[smoky python]

Gamer life

[woven flint]

• fire comp is imba
• water comp is imba
• empaph comp is imba
• mud comp is imba

That s pretty much a summary of me just reading here since 5 days

[fair hemlock]

You forgot toxic berserker

😄

[woven flint]

Ah yes 😂😂😂

[smoky python]

to be fair

empath is actually bugged

so it is imba

[opaque cape]

its only bugged when you stack multiple air attipos

and break the attack speed scaling where it gets into an infinite loop

turning your pack into 390 attack speed machineguns

[serene lance]

im logging off until the patch

[opaque cape]

broken mind 😄

come over to the darkside

[woven flint]

Yes I believe there is actually maybe one, probably empath after reading, but it s alot of noise after 5 days, whining about 5 different comp saying it s imba is probably too much ...😉

[smoky python]

Oh for sure

[serene lance]

hahaha I cbf making a deck if its gone tomorrow

[opaque cape]

but i can confirm with certainty thats empaths are imbalanced

its way too strong for how easy it is to play and how little counterplay opponents have

[serene lance]

we want the game to be successful, for that it needs to be fun, fair, balance, competitive, so therefore we voice our opinions when something goes against those values.

[serene lance]

What would be considered the dark side more, 7 empath or xborg ?

[opaque cape]

7 empaths of course 😄

im not on the talent-recruiting panel of xborg afaik

[bronze canopy]

people vilify xborg too much

[opaque cape]

or am i @smoky python

[bronze canopy]

we are just not pretenciously nice like most

[smoky python]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-darkside-star-wars-evil-innerme-gif-14818845

[serene lance]

https://tenor.com/view/heroes-devil-inferno-infernodevil-gif-19299990

[opaque cape]

conspiracy theorist, science denier, antivaxxer!

[bronze canopy]

environmental maxi

[serene lance]

Will we ever get a 'training ground' gamemode, where you get to place anything you want on either side of the board? To test out anything you possibly want to?

[smoky python]

I hope so

Underlords had that

[serene lance]

It would save me a lot of questions

And help find optimal augment choices

[opaque cape]

that would be great

[safe stirrup]

i beat him but he took 1 round from me

[smoky python]

In Underlords you could also save that seed from the training area to replay it or send to friend

[serene lance]

thats cool

[smoky python]

Very good addition

[serene lance]

kisses you on the forehead

[fluid lagoon]

I know .. i couldn't help it .. too much of that on ladder so might aswell

[woven flint]

After all the reading I believe this is for sure, looks like the meta to get high ELO is 5attipo kukka fern and whatever prob adoredo.
If I would be able to play I probably just play this, saying it s wrong and just wait for the patch.

Strat games is actually adaptation

The only sad part is people whining when they got beaten.
Can bet if someone would loose with empath team he would scream that the other comp is imba 😂
And so on ...

[opaque cape]

i hope it gets nerfed, but until then im just playing the strongest deck

[woven flint]

Make sense

[opaque cape]

cant wait for more people to join this game

hard to find games right now in the queue

[edgy flower]

Wonder why, maybe you play imbe deck and no one wants to play against it? 🙂

[opaque cape]

because i play a certain deck suddenly noone is in the queue anymore?

[woven flint]

I actually lean on smartass side, for many people, the fun in a game is winning, if there is a meta to win, you play it until patch and then you adapt 🤷

[opaque cape]

ive played a lot of the fire deck and toxic/colossus deck already

[lusty sleet]

@dull wind GG sir

[dull wind]

gg 🔥

[serene lance]

Man ive got 41 hrs played, this is gonna be a problem

[waxen swan]

you still in queue?

I can hop on for a few

[dull wind]

imagine when it's our captured illuvials

[topaz lion]

I was going to ask if you could explain what happened second time round 😂

[opaque cape]

yes, facing hisapio now

[woven flint]

Btw as this seems quite easy to patch (drastically reducing power of 25 cost attipo)
Do we know for sure if we will have the patch before the tournament or is it mandatory to make a deck like that ?

[bronze canopy]

you say that because you are looking form ouside, its not whining because you lost, you can actually tell that something is overpowered

when playing hundreds of times

[serene lance]

Patch on the 29th and another pre tournement if required

[woven flint]

I agree if it is about one thing, but if you read carefully people whine about 5 comps ... Come on ...

[opaque cape]

@neat walrus gg 🙂

[neat walrus]

gg
It's interesting to strategize against each other👍

[opaque cape]

yes, i was hoping to rematch that deck to see what could be improved

[west quartz]

on my way

[topaz lion]

Who is ready to get beat

[strong raptor]

buenas

ningun español?

[brazen quarry]

#1023944295583076352

[opaque cape]

get me to 2k 😄

[west quartz]

game stuck on upload in the launcher

[plush gate]

what counters empath ? ive been seeing so many first round 4 atippo and shields just seem insane

[west quartz]

ddos opponent

[neat walrus]

thought of some strategies, but I'll come up with more. Please look forward to it👍

[opaque cape]

come at me bro 😄

[mental summit]

guys, how to update the game?

[plush gate]

Found a grammatical error in the illuvium arena interface

[opaque cape]

only true players wins is an easter egg at this point

[plush gate]

Hahaha that was the one

[obtuse summit]

Hey ppl! just a question, say your illuvial is inferno and dominant fire, does he get the fire bonus if you have say 5 illuvilals with fire and also the inferno bonus if there is 2 inferno illuvials?

[safe valve]

epic games store

[safe stirrup]

lost against someone using ur deck @opaque cape it has begun, the clone wars have

[waxen swan]

No the dominant class is only for bonding and affinity is only for hyper and bonding

[opaque cape]

2 inferno bonus yes, fire bonus only the small one that any unit that isnt fire gets

[opaque cape]

ive faced it like 10 times now

havent lost yet 😄

[mental summit]

Damn I forgot. Thx mate 🙂

[safe stirrup]

haha clone v clone

sorry original v clone

[opaque cape]

im fine with playing mirror matches and winning on skill 😄

[safe stirrup]

ooft what a line

[waxen swan]

Ppl are perma losing to 7 empath?

surely it's not that hard to beat

[opaque cape]

its completely broken

since i started playing it i think i went 50-3

[waxen swan]

wanna do one custom?

I think mine has a fair chance against it

[safe stirrup]

JPP strats there

[opaque cape]

nah, gotta go cook a duck

[waxen swan]

ah enjoy

[opaque cape]

i mean a literal duck, not some kind of euphenism

[waxen swan]

ya ik

Ive had duck before its good

[opaque cape]

duck breast is the best

[latent moss]

Is there any info about Leviathan Arena out there anywhere?

[safe valve]

not much, difference known between ascendant is that in leviathan individual stats and lvl of the illuvials matter

[neat walrus]

I felt that the game requires more playing skills than I had initially thought

[west quartz]

lmk when you get back got a comp to try against empath

[opaque cape]

will be like 6 hours from now, have to go do some stuff, dm me what comp you wanna try?

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[safe stirrup]

@patent slate goddamn son that was a hard one

[opaque cape]

game is updating now btw if you exit and restart

did something get pushed already?

[west quartz]

had the same

[west quartz]

dmed you the comp

[opaque cape]

dont think thats gonna work, but worth a shot

[west quartz]

thought about going frost and just freeze it all but seems even more unlikely to me

[opaque cape]

freezing is nice, but how are you doing damage?

[west quartz]

you throw in a scoriox and sear

gives magma, behemoth, and scoriox deals damage from the back

just seems too costly atm

[safe stirrup]

@karmic drum gg

[balmy dock]

I start the Game and there was a small Download. Just cause Release it there was a Patch 😋?

Or*

[tulip tiger]

35 not bad haha

[hollow citrus]

There was a small update to get a couple of fixes in before the release. No balancing changes just yet, this will come tomorrow and we'll have a patch note for 0.3.1 tomorrow

Fixes include:

• Fix for the server reverting some of your actions at the start of a round
• Fix for some reconnection issues
• Fix for deposits / plants being unreachable
• Fix for the new Illuvials missing from the Fusion menu
• Fix for controllers, bringing back what we had for PB2
• Fix for some descriptions issues
• • more fixes

[safe stirrup]

does this include extra fps?

LOL i just achieved 292 umbre

GOES TOO FAST

[cyan olive]

a common theme in bugs I see atm is that atk buffs if they refresh don´t run out and keep stacking

[safe stirrup]

no no it wasnt a bug

ive just made him ultra powerful

[cyan olive]

you sure it isn´t slayer buff just not running out?

[high stream]

U need some tester for this patch ? 🙄

[safe stirrup]

final round he was 255 speed

literally unkillable and immune, ive never achieved that before

4 steam, 3 slayer, attack speed buff and immune legendary, with extra vamp buffs from teammates

just 100% hp like all the time that was amazing

[silver merlin]

what time is game going to be live on epic games?

[cyan olive]

in 7h 16min

[silver merlin]

oh damn

[west quartz]

might be the end of +2 win -19 loss

[tough elbow]

Hey, can we predownload the game ?

[brave moat]

Not sure you can.

[brazen quarry]

Don't think so

[bronze canopy]

literally having a clumsy augement still dont win against that bullshit empath build

clumsy augement, both snakes spamming aoe attacks, displacing with charm

does noting

[safe stirrup]

goddamn

clumsy makes it so they cant dodge right?

[bronze canopy]

yep

[safe stirrup]

does it make u not blind as well?

[bronze canopy]

idk doesnt matter for that match up

ppl spaming that are shameless

[smoky python]

Yup

[twilit storm]

https://tenor.com/view/mcmahon-crying-he-was-special-wwe-vince-mcmahon-gif-13313547165599993551

[tulip tiger]

gg @zenith bough thatt phosphorus is broken lol i gotta add in some augments

[waxen swan]

@zenith mortar you think the ILV for cc tournament will be sent I got the disc yesterday or the day before

[safe stirrup]

brought an empath build to 40 hp

[zenith bough]

GG. It's so funny to play vs. the air/water empath comps. 😄

[lilac grail]

Yeah, and since truesight is only to protect from the blind but don't give you the 100% attack hit, units can still dodge.
There are no autoattacker comp that can win thrue this pack.

[zenith bough]

Truesight are meant to negate dodge too. It's just a bug atm

[safe stirrup]

292 attack speed again lol

[elder estuary]

Did you get to test your deck against the empath build yet :)?

I'm just waiting for update to complete... Slow internet 🐌

[waxen swan]

I won against 7 empath 2 templer 2 wildfire deck yesterday

[elder estuary]

Awesome 😄

[lilac grail]

oh thanks god ! It totally makes sense. was really useless if it wasn't the case.

[elder estuary]

What type of deck/affinities did you use?

[west quartz]

do all illuvials have a basic crit chance ?

[elder estuary]

I'm trying a Fire/Phantom one, but no idea if it'll work 😅

[waxen swan]

I don't think it was my deck

more the augments I used

[elder estuary]

Yep

[elder estuary]

Reduce their healing to zero build xD?

[waxen swan]

I have double biogenetic suppressor

[elder estuary]

=]

[waxen swan]

i didn't know empath deck was going to be a thing I just added them for general antiheal

[elder estuary]

Nice okay, I got the same in my anti-empath deck, so will see how it goes once I can play again 😄
Although I'm terrible so, it's not a good test case 😆

[ebon pagoda]

how to get good in 2 days

[tulip tiger]

You got this jag

[ebon pagoda]

i need a deck

searching on gamefaqs.
best ILV deck.

[elder estuary]

Did you find anyone sharing decks yet ^^?

[ebon pagoda]

not yet. but im hopeful

[edgy flower]

If we use 3 aug for antiheal 20%, 30% and 40%, so we cut 90 % of heal, or does it work differently?

[west quartz]

@hollow orbit i see what you did there 😉

[ocean junco]

Full empath

[ebon pagoda]

thanks

[west musk]

Updating on Epic launcher... What's in the update?

[bronze canopy]

stop spamming broken empaths shameless players

[west musk]

nvm.... I scrolled up

[ocean junco]

Are there any descriptions of grit and resolve and indomitable yet? what does it do

[abstract tusk]

guys, can i buy Illuvitar Standard D1SK?

[exotic sinew]

Grit - Reduces Physical Damage taken.
Resolve - Reduces Energy Damage taken.
Indomitable - A Combat Unit's health cannot drop to zero.

[worldly jolt]

Found what you need #🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[ocean junco]

Thanks sir. Do you have full description of other technical like this? I like to read it

[exotic sinew]

hmm I'll have a look to see what we've got publicly available atm.

[waxen swan]

scoriox has another spreadsheet

time to spend another 5 hours on it

[supple cave]

what about these people that don't do anything on the first 4 rounds? there should be a big penalty....

please

[waxen swan]

I kill most people in 4-5 rounds

[supple cave]

they shouldn't be able to just throw everything in

[waxen swan]

when they are playing

you should be able to beat people who aren't doing anything in the first 4 rounds easily

[supple cave]

my friend. if it's just the ranger on the first 4 rounds, the bot doesn't die

[west quartz]

do you lose less hp if you don't put any illuvials ?

[supple cave]

guess so

or maybe it takes 4 rounds, so people add everything on round 4 only

try it

not 5

3 rounds with just ranger and throw everything in on 4th

[west quartz]

that wouldn't help

[waxen swan]

if you take less damage with having only ranger that needs to be removed for sure

[west quartz]

you were saying you can survive 4 rounds if only having the ranger

[waxen swan]

idk if that's an actual thing to

[supple cave]

you can. i am sure

at least 3 rounds with just ranger

try it once on casual, or let's meet on a private match

[normal pebble]

wen launch

[west quartz]

give me a sec to finish a match and we try it on prvate

[supple cave]

you'll have full points on round 4, seeing all my board, able to place everything in one go

[west quartz]

if it works that would totally change the meta because you could start building 620mastery comps instead of 460

[west quartz]

do you survive 4th round, that's the whole question

[supple cave]

i think only 3rd, but the idea is to kick ass on round 4 and that'll take you to 5 always

[west quartz]

so it doesn't change a thing

[supple cave]

round 5 is 620

[west quartz]

ik

the point is to survive round 4 guaranteed

let's go custom to test it

[supple cave]

create a game and go to some channel

[west quartz]

6MUK3U

[clever garden]

gg Zrk whoever that is

[zenith mortar]

Tomorrow or today

[still bison]

empath is so strong

someone found a counter? 😄

[grizzled breach]

beta test have no reward no not bro

[sullen vessel]

How to counter 4 Atipos with crazy healing they seem to almost die but the health just keeps popping up ? Tried Mellee damage with crit damage just to drop them but seems like the more damage I do the more they heal?

[proven ember]

Just bugged - will be fixed in tomorrows patch

sorry folks

[smoky python]

How is it playing without the bug?

[edgy flower]

Can I get the answer?

[clever garden]

gg @twilit storm

what kind of attack was causing the sudden drop of hp ?

was it the Ulti of Phosphorus ?

[brazen quarry]

Probably ranger gauntlet

[clever garden]

the water pistol thing ? I think that was not used this time

or the high damage with other elements too ? other than water

[west quartz]

just got reverted

[cursive echo]

is today's big update normal? not planned for tomorrow?

[hollow citrus]

tomorrow a first quick balancing patch

[hollow citrus]

please make sure to use the in-game reporter so we get all the information

[drifting torrent]

what time is the release on epic?

[hollow citrus]

20:00 UTC

[fair hemlock]

4hrs from now.

[drifting torrent]

thanks!

[twilit storm]

@clever garden yeah phosp + double aug on him

[west quartz]

also it arcanite seems to be bug because when phosphorus gets Omega power his Attack damage doesn't go up

[low comet]

do we have chart for composite class counters?

[vague karma]

i saw that bug as well, but it was fun and still won, so didn't report it xD

[lilac grail]

Only dominant affinity Matter

[jagged gull]

whats that helpful illuvium website again

[lilac grail]

There are some depending on your needs, illuvialmaster, illuvihub, illuvidata

[raven obsidian]

Illuvial master, illuvidata, illuvihub

[buoyant spire]

Best tutorial video for beginners?

Telling friends to try this out and they WILL need a great tutorial to get into it

[lilac grail]

ArtemisILV did a quite complete PVP overview with lot of basics info. If you are starting.

[buoyant spire]

I checked that one out. It was good but just wondering if there is another one that is the go-to

[rocky mortar]

Been telling friends the same thing 😂 it’s time to ditch TFT & upgrade

[buoyant spire]

For sure. At last a web3 game worth it!

[lilac grail]

More deep guide, recommand Viper_ilv

[buoyant spire]

Alright! thank you

[low comet]

Thanks tho, does invulnerable stats stacks?

[west quartz]

is the 60 crit chance augment seriously +60% crit chance ? or this the 60 base value converted to another percentage value ?

[raven obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7hlof0vxM&ab_channel=Illuvium

Illuvium posted their own Arena PvP guide

[buoyant spire]

Thank you!

[rancid raptor]

This changed? I mean composite used to have counters right?

[silk knot]

today is just the illuvium arena?

[limpid snow]

yes

[silk knot]

thanks

[cosmic rain]

at what time I can download it at the epic store?

[brazen quarry]

<t:1701201600:R>

[rancid raptor]

The ones who already had previous beta can play?

How though? Code needed or just download?

[brazen quarry]

You just download from the epic launcher <t:1701201600:R>

[rancid raptor]

Thanks

I have another code I am playing on now, can I give that to a friend?

[lilac grail]

yes. simplified.

[rancid raptor]

That's good, I like the change

[lilac grail]

Hope i don't give false info

[kind otter]

LFG

[rancid raptor]

Guys I have the previous beta and I am currently playin using a new code, can I give that code to a friend somehow so we can both play?

[limber scroll]

pvp is open for everyone in a few hours. so don´t need a code anymore.

[rancid raptor]

Oh, cool

[cyan olive]

if you think something is a bug pls report it, maybe it is just some trait and combo setup going crazy, maybe it is a bug, would help the team if we let them know

[edgy flower]

is verdant stack healing from AOE?

[gentle badger]

hello , wich houer getting out ?

[zenith bough]

#🎮〕illuvium-arena message

[late lagoon]

I quit @mighty tulip no more mmr for u lol

[waxen swan]

@coarse echo if you have more than 100% crit does it turn into crit amp or no

[supple cave]

if you get stunned right when you are going to do omega ability. not only you don't cast, but you lose all that energy and have to start all over.... that makes no sense... should only delay the cast!!

[balmy dock]

Rank Reset on Release ?

[opaque cape]

thats called being interrupted during your channel/cast, its supposed to be like that and makes for interesting gameplaying and timings

[supple cave]

no one can time that

that makes blazenite insanely powerful because he keeps stunning all the time

that's why so many people are using that 7 empath 2 templar ridiculous deck

[bronze canopy]

thats not why, empaths are bugged and people are abusing it

stun has nothing to do with it

[supple cave]

i know empaths are bugged, but even so, the blazenite is being used all the time also. the endless stubs are too much

[coarse echo]

No

[uncut comet]

so will the esports partnership get dropped today after launch?

[opaque cape]

nobody is using blazenite in a non-empath deck

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

[west quartz]

hope the empath fix will be enough because otherwise we're up for a whole tournament of mirror matchups

[mighty tulip]

Your not the only one falling to this scoriox 😅

[supple cave]

woooow

[opaque cape]

scoriox with 2 or 3 air attipos near it?

[old lark]

hmmm this looks like good cheese

[gentle badger]

its the game out ?

[limber scroll]

40mins to go

[dull wind]

@bronze canopy lets go one more xD

[bronze canopy]

im in gme

[dull wind]

oh

kk gg

[limpid snow]

idk how to play im gonna get wreckedddd

[dull wind]

only mud to counter that bloody phosphorus

[hearty sphinx]

Do you need nfts or $ILV to play?

[rain coral]

no

[hearty sphinx]

Thanks!

[mighty tulip]

Empath player eh 😬

[west quartz]

We need an answer to this

[old lark]

i'm so bad at this game i don't even know why that's supposed to be insulting

[worn thicket]

i know right T_T

[dull wind]

I want to test my team but these empath teams are really 2 much

[jovial prawn]

When does the game release on epic games i thought it was 8pm utc

[river brook]

20 mins i think

[jovial prawn]

nvm im an idiot hahaha thanks

[brisk dove]

can i play illuvium too? i had access to beta 😦

the arena

[obtuse summit]

Do we need to install new version or just update current game?

[limber scroll]

new version from epic game store launcher

[brisk dove]

but it says "coming soon"

[obtuse summit]

So uninstall current i guess then?

[worn thicket]

release in 10mins

[limber scroll]

10 mins to go

[brisk dove]

awhfuakwbfukawbfk uat yeeeeeeeees

[worthy spindle]

is it possible to download from website ?

[limber scroll]

no

[true crest]

some hype going ayo

[worthy spindle]

tyty

[proven ember]

yes

[serene lance]

Have fun everyone

[idle inlet]

xDD

[fair hemlock]

@wicked cloak yes it would

[old lark]

@tired depot that was stressful

[late lagoon]

Il beat it soon 🙂 just need some tweaks lol

[stray gull]

Eren Jaegger and Caveman neck and neck for most games played 😂

[tired depot]

Why is toxic so strong, how do I counter it?

[west quartz]

how many did we do ?

[uncut comet]

where can we see how much games played?

[west quartz]

i'll say it again, give me my life back

[stray gull]

270+

Beasssts

[zenith bough]

Woooow

Would be fun to see ones own stats 😃

[dull wind]

gg @gentle bronze

[abstract tusk]

guys can we earn something in arena?

[dull wind]

experience

[west quartz]

pride

[abstract tusk]

this is for fun and education??

[mighty tulip]

GG @supple cave. Good battle that

[west plume]

Lol

[west quartz]

yup, also for bug report and telling the team empaths and vermillia should be nerfed to oblivion

[abstract tusk]

nice i like to play for free i am fun of games thanks

[dim flax]

bro, u play in games, but in crypto. Why do you think you have to make money? Just relax and enjoy it

[abstract tusk]

yes i like games in crypto, illuvium aaa project i am so proud to be the part of this game!!

[dim flax]

gj man! Do u play cradles? It's a AAA mmorpg too, very nice for it

[abstract tusk]

yes i buy 10k tokens per 0.3, i think its lfg project, maybe next month 3 dollar per token

[dim flax]

congrats bro

[earnest peak]

1-0 I should retire now

[west plume]

@mighty tulip GG scoriox hit hard asf😄

[mighty tulip]

I know right. That was an epic battle! Genuinely thought I'd lost

GG

[silver merlin]

is there a decks subchannel somewhere?

[old mantle]

do we have to create new acc to play in epic games?

[honest pawn]

what got updated? any patch note

[hollow citrus]

No

[worn thicket]

dont know about you guys but i feel really bad for playing rn T_T

[stark swift]

Just login with your Illuvium account.

[hollow citrus]

you need an epic games account to download the game then you can login to your illuvium account to play

[agile dove]

it is fun

[old mantle]

so all new users cannot play with their epic games account and would have to create ilv account?

that seems like a lot of tasks , could affect ppl trying it

[worn thicket]

yes

[dull wind]

aah fresh blood in the arena

[lean ivy]

Ya I actually had to get some work done today or I would get fired 🤣

They will take the lead

[stray gull]

😂

[cinder sigil]

Is it normal that I have to download the full 18 gb again for this update? Have been playing on epic games this weekend already.

[worn thicket]

feels bad stomping so hard over and over...

[dense tusk]

I dont understand the game at all, what i good bad, is there any guides?

[dull wind]

now we reap the rewards of our dedication 😛

[hollow citrus]

https://youtu.be/vC7hlof0vxM

[worn thicket]

we don't reap anything we're just giving all the newcomers the impression that they're shit and that this game is hard. we're litterally hurting the game...

[dull wind]

bro get rekt

they need to learn 2 get good

that talk about hurting the game gimme a break

[worn thicket]

hopefully they'll quickly get paired with other newcomers cauz if they keep running into the veterans, that's not an enjoyable experience for them

[dull wind]

I spent the last days getting my ass pounded in order to learn

[hollow citrus]

let's keep it cordial, please

[worn thicket]

all good no worries i can take it 🙂

[dense tusk]

mh na, not what I am looking for, it gives me no examples to understand it. When someone has fire, do I play water or what? a sample match, why people choose what ,idk, or maybe i am to stupid 😄

[cosmic rain]

is the game completly free to play or is it possible to buy anything in game?

[hollow citrus]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWBqM9gWOSs this one maybe

[dense tusk]

No thanks, he is talking magic words 😄 I guess not Level 1 beginner guide

But I get that you combine units I guess

And it is not that Water is good against Fire

[hollow citrus]

try this one should cover the basic first and then go from there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de6U9qjtm-0

[noble knot]

is it me or does the game seem way to complex compared to tft? and why are the graphics poor??

[old mantle]

wtf has happened to the game

[west plume]

https://tenor.com/view/thriller-michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-watching-gif-5577709

[supple cave]

is it open for everyone already?

[hollow citrus]

In-game tutorial will come in a future update, as for the graphics if they are poor you might need a better GPU, they really are high quality. You can expect more optimization in the future too

[hollow citrus]

yes

[dense tusk]

Yeah better. thx

[west plume]

i feel a little bad for rekking so many new ones

[old mantle]

wtf are these things

and whats happening in the beginning of the game

[dense tusk]

Are the Tables shown in this Video with Bulwark + Psion = Harbinger also in the Game?

[west plume]

you should watch one of the official tutorials

[hollow citrus]

the are augments (to boost your illuvials)

[old mantle]

been playin ilv since it was out and first time i see these things

[lean ivy]

Completly free right now 🙂

[hollow citrus]

the first phase is the bidding phase to get legendary augments

[old mantle]

how should i know what should i get or how much money i have or how many things i can get

[tough elbow]

hello can we download arena already ?

[old mantle]

i see people marking 15 things

[lean ivy]

Yes on epic games!

[tough elbow]

yeah i added on epic games, but i don't see how to dl ^^'

[lean ivy]

If you go to your library you should see it there

[tough elbow]

ho yeah just now, got some delay i guess ^^' thank you 🙂

[old mantle]

how the hell did u guys manage to turn the game into total nonsense in just couple of months holy shit 😄

[hollow citrus]

Watch a couple of stream, it's not that hard once you get the hang of it 😉

[old mantle]

that is definitely going to have hard time going popular , its too overcomplicated for absolutely no reason, what happened ot the concept that we played just few months ago

[timid river]

Ramphyre isn't supposed to be untargetable while doing his Omega?

[raven obsidian]

total nonsense lol

[old mantle]

i am shocked 😂

[raven obsidian]

good or bad shocked?

[past mica]

if I were you, I'd try to get a code for OverWorld, if you play overworld you wont be so overwhelmed and it can prepare you better for arena

[old mantle]

bad, i just deleted it

[raven obsidian]

lol, get gud kid

[old mantle]

i own land, ive played all of them

which is why im shocked wtf happened to arena

[dense tusk]

where do I see what counters what?

[coarse echo]

Ascendant is PvP Arena, where you battle an opponent (as oppoosed to Survival which is against AI waves of enemies). May I ask which aspect of the game is confusing you, considering you've played before?

[wheat sable]

please give good answer as this will improve newby track I think

[old mantle]

all of it doesnt make sense, played quite a few autobattlers before and this is way too overcomplicated with unnecessary things and literally no options to do anything, no explanations , no reasoning behind any of it, no clue whats happening , i smacked a dude 5 rounds and then he ended me somehow while i cant do anything to adjust to him and i keep having hundreds of gold that i cannot use

[raven obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7hlof0vxM&ab_channel=Illuvium

[old mantle]

most of the stuff are just pointless there

[raven obsidian]

watch this 4 minute vid, you'll learn a lot

[slender palm]

Why I cant click Play Ranked on the game?

[old mantle]

bro if u need a guide to play a game , the game aint goin nowhere

[raven obsidian]

you mean like a tutorial, that literally every game in the world has?

[old mantle]

especially autobattler

haha yeah sort of , but with autobattler is different, u just put units to fight, it has to make some sense

[raven obsidian]

well just do that then man, it aint hard

[coarse echo]

if you had played Survival, you would see that not much is different. You play units on the board, you can equip augments to them, there is a ranger that can have a weapon and a suit equipped. And each round, the stuff on the board fights each other. Specifics would be nice for you to include if there are certain things that are problematic for new players. We're always looking for ways to improve the onboarding.

[old mantle]

was hyped , but this aint enjoyable, its frustrating. i promised my friends next level tft, but this makes no sense

[stray gull]

maybe play more than one game

learn it before crying?

[old mantle]

nah, deleted it already

[stray gull]

alright dude

[old mantle]

these augments for example, 0 clue what do i do there, how many do i click, how many times

wtf are they, do i use gold that i could have used for units

and everything else is totally unclear

[raven obsidian]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC7hlof0vxM&ab_channel=Illuvium

here i'll link it for you again

[stray gull]

Step 1. Open Casual
Step 2. Practice

[old mantle]

i wont bother with that, the man asked me how can they improve, im sharing

[coarse echo]

^ that could probably help

[old mantle]

this was supposed to be considered in the last 1.5 years, not on release day

[coarse echo]

yep. I appreciate the info. Anything else besides the bidding for augments at the start that was hard to comprehend?

[old mantle]

ye the items for the ranger

there must be some order to things, limits arent cool usually, but in this case , a category atleast

also once u buy all the fighters, what do u do

just no more fighters?

whats the gold for after that

i just sit and wait to get killed

[raven obsidian]

what do you mean buy the fighters?

[old mantle]

the units that u put on the ground

[coarse echo]

ah, so the cards that you choose from can be filtered with the icons. you can separate them by weapons, suits, augments, and Illuvials. That should help a bit if you're lost with options.

[worn thicket]

wrong mindset if you'd ask me

[old mantle]

bought 8 as that is the limit, but when u get countered what do u do

[raven obsidian]

you mean like you have gold to spend on illuvials like in arena ytou said youve played before?

[old mantle]

u cant change what ure being offered to buy, u cant change ur strategy

cant put more stuff on ranger

just collecting gold there

[raven obsidian]

swap units out for better ones, move units, place augments on illuvials, upgrade ranger armour and weapons. they all cost extra gold

[old mantle]

i understand that most of u know the game by heartbeat, but that is not the case with all newcomers

[old mantle]

ye theres no better ones to swap, didnt know u can put augment on illuvial or what can be put on them, put a sword on the ranger, but htats as far as it let me go

didnt see how to upgrade

as i said, its definitely not noob friendly

as autobattler should somewhat be

i literally got only nature stuff and mf countered me somehow, theres nothing i can do

[spiral coral]

yeah kinda agree , TFT is a lot more noob friendly , easier to understand .

[worn thicket]

in this kind of games sometimes there are bad matchups that even the best player can't win

[raven obsidian]

try building new team with more variety

[proven ember]

Tutorial is coming.

[old mantle]

build it where

i had only nature in shop

[coarse echo]

@old mantle I would suggest watching that starter guide video that's been linked a couple times above. It won't contain super deep strategy, but should provide a decent overview of some of the basics

[raven obsidian]

on the team builder website

[coarse echo]

Also, more tutorials are in the works and will be coming eventually.

[raven obsidian]

bottom of the page on the game theres a link that takes you straight to the tutorial page

[old mantle]

yeah, i think ppl had to go through that once they installed the game, if ive already played arena and several autobattlers and had no clue whats happening, u can only imagine how a new player to autobattlers will feel

[odd dust]

if my phanton unity have rogue dominance does it count like a rogue? I know it doesn't add rogue trait

[serene lance]

Bro is basically saying he hates the deck hes playing and that he runs out of things to spend mastery points on, go on team builder and make one you like? 😆

[old mantle]

wtf is team builder

[odd dust]

like, phanton units with rogue dominance gain rogue trait bonus?

[serene lance]

No

[old mantle]

i have to go out of the game into some website and make a team?

[opaque cape]

bulgarian boy is gonna take my most hated title away 😄 ?

[serene lance]

Click “open team builder” in game

[dense tusk]

Jesus that man has had a rough day and no love, get well dude

[old mantle]

u never owned that title, ive been trying to reason with them on more than just arena.. 😄

[wheat sable]

https://play.illuvium.io/team-builder

[worn thicket]

isn't that @smoky python title? also beware, im a serious competitor for it too

[warped ocean]

doesnt work

[old mantle]

ok so i guess this is the biggest red flag, having to go in some websites to play the game

[serene lance]

Hahaha

Brother just leave then

[worn thicket]

it does if you log in

[serene lance]

You clearly hate the project

We cant force you to like it

[warped ocean]

im logged in hmm lemme try to disconnect and reloggin

[wheat sable]

I do agree for someone that starts through EPIC and have to go to a website is very strange (at first?)

[stray gull]

• Tutorial is coming.
• Team Builder will be in the client for Open Beta (Reminder this is Beta 3).
• Take a deep, watch a video, learn the game.
• Stop spamming

[worn thicket]

you have fun red flags. prefer mine

[serene lance]

Everything will be in game eventually, this is literally an early access beta

[old mantle]

yeah, the try hards here see stuff from their point of view, not as a casual player or just a random guy that saw the game in epic games

[wheat sable]

ignore the names, none of them really work hahaha

[worn thicket]

there you go

[warped ocean]

Team Builder is not working right now correct

[old lark]

@dense helm lmao sorry for so much cheeeeese

[stray gull]

Team Builder is working

[old mantle]

thats the biggest bullshit they could have added to the game, autobattler should be random

[opaque cape]

i think you need to chill

its a big day today, pvp release for the masses

[serene lance]

?????

[warped ocean]

when i click it, it takes me back to play.illuvium.io

[opaque cape]

its a day of celebration, if you dont like it, dont play it

but dont shit on everyones parade here

[raven obsidian]

yikes, youve clearly missed the whole point of illuvium

[wheat sable]

not if linked to an collecting game :p

[serene lance]

“Its bullshit that you can make your own teams and strategies”

[warped ocean]

yes exactly that

[worn thicket]

woooow, maybe calm down lil boy. some people here are litterally tired of losing to RNG and like Illuvium's deterministic side

[serene lance]

This guy is a troll

[warped ocean]

it takes me back to play.illuvium.io

[wheat sable]

🙂 if you want random go for TFT. If you want strategy and depth this is the game I think (allthough I suck in both)

[worn thicket]

yeah so there on the top, click arena and then teambuilder

[west plume]

Shit

[wheat sable]

your f uc ked

[worn thicket]

sweaty spotted

[warped ocean]

doesnt work

[wheat sable]

try different client? Chrome/firefox?....

[past mica]

You guys really should just let Kyle and other Illuvium staff collect feedback, all the peanut crowd comments are cringe and unproductive, there will always be people who are frustrated at the complexity of the game, kicking them while their down wont help the situation

[serene lance]

Buddy youre trying a new game, same as any casual or new player, you jump in and get wrecked and youre confused.

You have 2 options:

Learn more about the game, get better, eventually start winning and having fun and get a sense of accomplishment and progression.

Or

Stop playing, decide its not the game for you and move on.

Dont be a sore loser and instantly cry in discord and call the game bad and blame the team for your lack of competence.

[untold plover]

relog on the webpage, happend to me aswell

[worn thicket]

fair, thank you

[raven obsidian]

point taken 👍

[opaque cape]

yeah, people just need to understand that youre not gonna pick up a game like chess and be a grandmaster on day 1... its hard

[pastel rampart]

I really want to thank the team for a great product! PVP is so addictive and the team building is pretty fun 🙂

[hollow citrus]

Can we please all chill and move on

[warped ocean]

thats what happens just to let you guys know

in case need to fix something

[dense helm]

I helped design a lot of the intial game, and I'm pretty good at TFT ... and I still suck at Arena. Defintiely takes work.

[opaque cape]

the initial game of chess /s 😄 ?

[worn thicket]

yep litterally, got access 2 days ago and spent more time building because of so many possibilities and ideas to explore than actually playing

[dense helm]

Haha, I'm old, not that old.

[opaque cape]

well gj, i think it's a huge improvement on tft

[serene lance]

The game is awesome

[worn thicket]

I feel you, before PB1 i was ultra confident about survival because of my TFT background... and litterally got humbled straight away. then a couple days later and after studying the game a bit better i got it rolling

[pastel rampart]

Same here!! I've been more focused on trying new things than playing to win...and boy did I get rekt lol

[worn thicket]

honestly don't know if i like this more than TFT if i'm 100% honest. but its definitely fun 👍

[dense helm]

Also have to remember although its pretty polished this is early access. When you start collecting stuff in OW, multiple modes to play, tournaments.... should be pretty darn good.

[worn thicket]

yeah im doing ups and downs between 1750 and 1550 xD everytime i see my build works and gets me up there, i just go back to builder and try something else... who might be just trash and make me lose... but at least i tried xD

[warped ocean]

tried still doesnt work

[lone lotus]

So the main thing I have to feedback is that this looks like an autobattler but is missing the core component - rerolling and combining units

I thought I would get random offerings from my team comp every round and they would merge or somet

but nope, you just put your team out slowly an either win or lose based on matchup, no flexibility really after you're matched

[dense helm]

I think you should try to dig in a bit more, there's quite a lot of depth in the positioning and the like, becasue you know who you will face.

[lone lotus]

also what's the point of different stage units if I can just play stage 3?

[dense helm]

rather than having to play to the lobby, you play to the specific moves you see from opponent.

[serene lance]

You combine 3 of each illuvial in overworld to evolve and progress them

[wheat sable]

good empath are nerfed soon ;:p

[serene lance]

Also stage 1 and 2 are cheaper

[serene lance]

So you beed to manage your mastery points

If you just place stage 3 you might get rushed

[dense helm]

You can play a rush down deck that is all stage 1's and beat people playing stage 3 based decks before they get a chance.

[lone lotus]

OK I see, that makes some sense

[worn thicket]

that's the feeling now that the game is not perfectly balanced yet and probably your deck isn't top meta either.
but with a good deck, positionning and augments help a lot in turning bad matchups in your favor.

with all this said... like in many card games some matchups might just be close to un-winnable for a certain deck and that's perfectly fine as your deck will most likely have it's own very positive matchup

[lone lotus]

also, as some others mentioned, the augments were a little confusing

[serene lance]

Illuvium isnt just copying normal auto battle gameplay, its a combination of auto battler and pokemon

[wheat sable]

@hollow whale enjoy while it last (if you just played me)

[stray gull]

You have limited mastery points to spend each round so having stage 1 or 2 may be advantageous and result in a win compared to a team stacked full of expensive units.

Some of the strongest teams we have seen so far include Tier 0s and cheap units.

[dense helm]

Yeah there's definitely an element too this that is more like a card game.

[serene lance]

Yes augments are what takes some time to learn and remember each one and realise when they are useful for sure

[lone lotus]

do the elements have weaknesses and strengths?

fire beats earth?

[serene lance]

For ‘hyper’ yes

They build up a strength over time

[dense helm]

Remember also in tournaments we will introduce the same kinds of things you would see in a CCG tournament. For example in a 1v1 you might have 4 teams, and ban 1, and then it could be conquest or last man standing.

[serene lance]

Water -> earth -> fire -> nature -> air -> water

[lone lotus]

so you'd have to make multiple (unique) teams?

[worn thicket]

Regarding this. I agree that playing aggro should be an option and it's healthy for the game. but aren't more expensive comps hard underperforming right now? it almost feels like playing more than 2 stage 3s is just wrong right now, and idk maybe it's a design choice or maybe it just needs fine tuning? what's your take?

[hollow whale]

You liked that huh

[dense helm]

We haven't decided exactly what World Championships/Pro Tournamnets will look like. But based on how the game plays this seems to make the most sense to me.

[wheat sable]

was fair fight even with the op shielding :p

[serene lance]

I think stage 3 and high tier units need slight buffs so that theres more demand for then come overworld and blockchain, need to make sure they have value

[silver merlin]

anybody has the empath deck that i can import?

[dense helm]

Be like me, make your own decks and lose!

[lone lotus]

the few casuals I'm playing we run out of things to buy after a few rounds so...

[serene lance]

Making your own deck and winning is very fulfulling and fun

[serene lance]

Stack up the augments after that, or make a more expensive deck

[silver merlin]

already did that but facing unlimited shields is not fun

[serene lance]

Nerfed tomorrow

[lone lotus]

are augments unlimited?

[serene lance]

You can put 2 on every illuvial!

[worn thicket]

oh im not even talking about the NFTs demand... just talking about the game's design and current meta as a game

[serene lance]

So 8 x 2 = 16 augments max

[serene lance]

Yeah i still agree with you

[supple cave]

Kieran is live on Twitch! Let's all join, gogogo

[lone lotus]

what are Tiers? and how do you filter by stats on team builder?

[worn thicket]

hmmm <@&795142782133207063> i feel like next couple days we'll have a lot of people here asking for help and resources. is it possible to allow the links to illuvialmaster and Illuvidata pls?

and any other community websites i might not be aware of that might help these newcomers

[worn thicket]

yeah you guys need to get your hands into some proper decks

[lone lotus]

it would be super nice if you could see the affinity and class buffs when you hover them in the team builder

also hope that this will be available in the game, most people will not bother going throught hte effort of making a team outside of the game client

[stray gull]

Yes it will be

[worn thicket]

so to do that just click on the two points here

it will give you this tab and if you hover them here you have all the info needed

[lone lotus]

cheers, that's exactly what I needed

[supple cave]

WE NEED 200 people on Kieran's twitch to get some giveaways!

[wheat sable]

damn I am so bad

or is fire overpowered

[west quartz]

seems about right

[woeful lance]

xD

[west plume]

that was intense....

[lone lotus]

lol tried to save a team and didn't have enough items

so I clicked add more items and it blanked the whole team

[west plume]

Was that you?

[lone lotus]

nope

I'm trying to build a team lol

[west plume]

i need a drink

After that one

[edgy bough]

Just joined

[west plume]

Jfc

[lone lotus]

what are the requirements for a team? why doesn't it say that on the builder somewhere lol

[west quartz]

peak gaming atm

[fleet crest]

Hope the e-sports people that are lined up have played a lot and can talk about the game well. Just watched a few streamers that have the most viewers and they don't really know what is going on hahaha

[tired depot]

I've gone fire recently and have had like a 7 game win streak

[fleet crest]

just saw you destroy a HS streamer hahaha

[lone lotus]

can someone answer this please? I don't want to lose another team when trying to save it

[zenith mortar]

5 Illuvials minimum

It won’t let you save if you don’t meet requirements

[lone lotus]

that's fine but I had 8 Illuvials and some items and it just reset haha

[opaque cape]

haha, nice game huh

your first loss?

[west quartz]

yup

4 win 1 loss

[opaque cape]

sorry 😄

i like your snake strat though

[west quartz]

fcked up my mmr i dropped down to 2k :/

[opaque cape]

your mmr is pretty meaningless if you only have 5 games

you get so much + or - during placement

[coarse echo]

lol. Empath is bugged, will be fixed in tomorrow's patch. We've done some testing post fix and it seems okay, but we'll def keep an eye on it even so in case it's still too powerful.

[opaque cape]

that its kinda cheat the way some people (cough @smoky python ) did it

[west quartz]

i lost on the air augment imo

[opaque cape]

the 5th air was really nice yeah

[last sierra]

is there some tool to get compos? I tried a game and think it's most that I don't know how to make my best team than other things

[gritty wren]

is that his name or what

dont look like it

[worn thicket]

fire is strong and definitely something to be considered as part of the meta, but not overpowered.
In fact it's probably the weakest of the current top4 builds

[last sierra]

where do u see top4 buildS?

[wheat sable]

then I am weak

[worn thicket]

just by noticing what people play at high elo:
water/air empaths + Water Gauntlet 3
Colossus+something (only way to get some sort of expensive build)
7 empaths + blazenite
7 fire + Ramphyre

[last sierra]

and what empaths/air or u can pick whatever?

[worn thicket]

the cheapest = the best

you wanna put 7 empath on the board asap. also the team already announced that empaths and water will be nerfed tomorrow so up to you, you can play it for today or do like me and try to figure what's gonna be good tomorrow

[west quartz]

@opaque cape something's definitely bugged though, i ended up with 1100 Attack, but still not doing damage

[opaque cape]

cause i dodge your attacks 😄

[worn thicket]

the other thing is that those cheap comps are outrageously easy to pick up and play, but they won't teach you much about the game sadly

[opaque cape]

air lynx ftw

[west quartz]

ohhh right maybe

[gentle badger]

where do you watch diferent teams ? or the ones that the top players play

[west quartz]

what's a top player though when the game launched 3 hours ago

[stark swift]

You can view your opponents team in game. The ones who beat you the most are the top players 😛

[bronze canopy]

absolutely shameless 7 empath spam

[opaque cape]

80% vamp bird but no damage or attack speed rip 😄

[opaque cape]

i'm the one who knocks

i have to surpass sjud, he's at 2069 rating

[dull wind]

@hallow notch you went down?

[stark swift]

Nice