#🎮〕illuvium-arena
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Maybe stuns and reducing attack speed can help. Gives you more time to kill them. And I would asume a stunned unit cannot dodge.
stuns usually require energy to cast aside from behemoths
and thats 80% increased energy of cast
i think it sould be either be an auto attack counter or be a caster counter
but both? 😄
I just stick with rhamphyre. Increase it's initial energy and watch it become hyper between all the air units 😄
Or bond your ranger to rhamphyre for double phantom, increase crit to 100% and see the world burn
or counter both a little
3 air already 40% more casting time, thats not a little
the numbers should be like 3-30%, 5-40%, 7 50%
yea numbers are a bit out there atm
Bug: firing psion weapon sometimes hits but does zero damage (happens repeatedly, both within same match and across matches)
Please use bug reporter in game. Much easier to track
It should. That would be a bug if not
oh great i knew i wasnt going insane
Did you report?
The priority order of some of these effects has gotta be pretty tricky
There’s another bug when switching units, when the battle starts it only removes the ones you wanted to and doesn’t add the new ones. Has happened to me 5 times and cost me all 5 games lol
Malura has a bug too when using his omega
just caught up on some of these messages.
The first games can be thought of like placement. First 5-10 will have high variance, then it will start to level off. After a lot of games, an equal rating matchup will yield around +/- 10 points for win/loss (not exactly, but close to that).
Where can we report bugs or suggestions?
On the #❓❓〕support website
how to emot with drone?
click on it
You can also press B while in game, take a screenshot, and explain the issue all within game.
I have grinded from 1,450 to 1750 now. It feels like I have aged 10 years since I started. So slow progress. 😬
I know it's only been 3 days..
Still
My feelings matter!
Glad to have that off my chest. Back to grind
Rip - spent the first handful trying out weird stuff; should be clearer imo
You must be number one on the leaderboard. That is tough
No. Lots of people higher
how to tell what illuvials scale off physical atk damage and which energy atk damage? Is it as simple as melee vs ranged?
@fluid lagoon GG good fight 💦
Is health regen based on max health %?
@velvet goblet 🥇 🙏 👍
your ranger was blasting atom bombs
you dodged well🤣
GG.. can t wait that Gauntlet to be nerfed 🙂
I benefit from nuclear attacks 
wtf is this harbinger ranger shit
be careful if I meet you I have modified the augmente for you
well i guess i wanted to eat anyway xD
cant wait for next balancing update!
passive agressive mabbsy, tell us how you really feel
lol
just lost a game to @cursive echo that used zero skill 😂
was it water related?
9 water with water gaunt 3 of course
had his whole team on the board on the 2nd wave
no fun only the same OP shit
i call that the boo-o-wo-ah special
pretty easy to get 2k+ rating with that one
abuse it while you can
mud also needs to be on a cooldown
if a mud unit with 4 mud touches you for a few seconds in the begining of a round
havng 0 attack speed for the rest of battle is bs
brb making mud team
i get that you can cleanse it with an augement, but what about the ranger
yeah, I agree on that aging progress but I just aged 10 years in one game >.<
can some1 explain the profile borders? why have some more strips then others? and the border color is related to beyond?
Border is related to your rank
For Aussies dose the open beta come out tomorrow 6am or is it Wednesday at 6am?
how do you get more strips?
I've seen folks with lower rating with more strips than me
the colour is related to your rank. not the stripes. the stripes are your rating within that colour
if that makes sense
gg @velvet goblet
ah ok
thanks @south glacier
#🚰〕leaks message
you can check the details here
everything makes sense now 😅
No it is not. I know that because i play mud 😂
How many extra mastery points do you get per round?
check pin #🎮〕illuvium-arena message
Cheers
last round was bugged the units i sold and put other in disapeared but gg
What’s the percentage cost to move a placement?
15%
Hey
whats the difference between pure atk dmg and atk dmg
one gets negated by armor and the other one is pure
aka true damage, ignoring all resistances from armor/mr/grit/resolve
cool, thx
@cursive echo it froze for you too?
What do we win by playing om arena? What is the reward? Besides ranking
game started instantly
I still have this kind of bug I have to quit the game
Yeah i got that too .. just exit the game and restart
anything you can do when the battle is stuck and "waiting for opponent" last forever? Is this a known bug?
It is afaik
ok. so i guess i have to restart the game
Me and torrex had it. Both of us just waited indefinitely. Just escape-surrender and it will all work again.
hmm, strange atm I have one bug after another. Illuvial disappear bug several times and this instant start just now. I mean it is ok beta and all but it is strange that this stuff happens in waves
you win gg cheat code 😭
Just please report all of them. This is actually the prelude to the open beta of a gamemode the public never tested before. These bugs are bound to happen ^^
Good job catching them though!
sure, the ingame report just can take a screenshot bug I cant upload them, right?
The ingame bug report can take a screenshot yes.
You can also add imagery here for sure. The team usually reads this stuff but it is quicker in the launcher itself. Extra info probably will reach the team in here.
Just explain as much as possible in the bug reporter obv.
what a fight 😅
+0
Nothing but fun. Right now it’s just for testing.
Yikes. That’s a pretty low score
@fluid lagoon gg drain energie 👍
Ive had one of these too lol such a waste of time
GG mister.. what nice fights we had 😄 ..back and forth
I had a strange (to me) interaction and I’m not sure if it was a bug or maybe an augment or something else I’m ignorant to. Mostly rogue opponents other units were bulwarks. I had multiple colossus and a mix of other units. The entire enemy team ignored the colossus taunts and even seemed to focus the non colossus units. Has anyone experienced this? Is it an augment? Something unique to rogues? Or does it have to be a bug?
Guys just a question so when the game starts tomorrow do we need to either purchase the Illuvials of the marketplace or go out and catch them to create our deck in the overworld. Or is it just the PVP exactly like what we have at the moment and the rest comes later
It's pvp and you have like godmode and can use all assets which are ready to be played.
Cheers so the overworld and land etc all comes later
They still can be played in private Beta/Alpha, they are just not open for the public testing yet.
Ok no problems byu the way I am loving the game so far
@opaque cape your gorilla drove me crazy
basic attack 😄
Yep down 0/2 in ranked... maybe instead of building this thing I should have been playing it 🙂
how does enchanter's pure dmg work?
also does ture sight mean, auto atk will not miss? can it still be blind??
I tried making a mystic + enchanter, shield staff ranger clump with carries like scoriox, this was one of the best strats in survival, but doesnt seem to work in pvp, maybe once gauntlet and rhamphyre are nerfed it will be better.
Also you have to survive at least 2-3 rounds of being rushed by tier 0 armies lol.
Lol you’re not bad mate - what happened? It’s still showing me “waiting for opponent” on the placement screen
weird not sure im currently in a game
3 rounds in
Did you quit out of ours?
nope
Weird
weird indeed
@neat walrus
you destroyed me
Oh sorry
Did you not enjoy my team?
あなたの巨大なチームからインスピレーションを受けるでしょう
yes I love your team
Will our ranked elo reset on the 28th ? Been messing it up quite hard trying to make umbre work 😂
hi
Don't bully my lovely whale🥹
I don't think so, no
I'll confirm
crazy fight GG
the invulnerable gotta be in this deck and it's complete lol
so many tactics in one game
by far the best fight yet
we used every trick in the book hahahaha BASTARD
yes so many options you scare me with your bird
That's the first time where I saw some Esports level shit
Cause I could feel what you were trying to do and just didn't have the indom to outlast
the giga atlas was crazy
I tried to bait your beams and get to them best I could so hard though
you musta been scared at round 6 lol
we continue to train 
fucking outlasting no wayyyyyy
yes with this crazy bird that rushes towards my ranger thanks the timer
I didn't put the attack speed fully on it cause the fucking beams were killing it too fast
should have moved to the left side and cut through
anyway you were the only one to beat me on like a 10 game streak with that deck
with my deck your only objective is to kill my ranger
god that pisses me off
Yeh the bomb is so crazy, pretty sure it's getting a bit of a nerf
I versed someone today with the water bomb and was just launching it every few seconds no chance
so broken
tucked in between units no way to get to it lol
healing units
only @neat walrus one can kill me easily
no, it was just a good match👍
YW 🥰
Enemies when they win - +40
Me - +12
💦 💦 💦 haha GG
round 3 i guess lol
oooh
what killed my monkeys, @cursive echo ?
I didnt understand what happened there lol
I find it amazing that nearly every Illuvial has a place in this deck builder. In most deck builder games only 5% of all cards are useful. Really amazing work!!
pistol!!
water gauntlet makes like 15k dmg per round
i need to figure out the pistol mechanics. I thought I placed my characters so that it wont get hit by it. Do they just shoot the closest one?
they shoot at the farthest enemy but if the orb passes an enemy it explodes it deals aoe dmg. The visual is a little bugged the orb explodes at first contact but the visual keeps flying.
Thank you! Imma put them properly then
that was my mistake. learning learning.
Nah surely everyone gets reset.
let me know 🙂
Quite certain Epic just drops the requirement for a code to download/play on the 28th, no changes to our Backend
:/
Yeah you have early access to Beta 3 which is what the public are jumping into on the 28th
Working on my fire team.
What could possibly be offensive in this team name?!?🤷♀️
Any1 know how some units like pho get insanely high attack speed without many augments or synergies?
I just learned that Warwick is a forbidden word lol
Arcanite, Slayer plus the synaptic booster that gives you more attack speed on takedown
just really hoping that psion weapon gets nerfed before 28th lol
Theres a patch on the 28th that will have balance changes.
Thats understandable, but ive had multiple times where without all that stuff they have high atk speed
@sharp geyser 😜 ohhh maiiii
Not sure. Seems improbable without at least the takedown augment
Thats why i was confused, maybe it was a bug.
100 resist is probably more like 30%, and then the more you have the lower it scales, so 300 wouldnt be 90% itd be around 70%.
do we know when its gonna launch exactly ? ?
@cursive echo Noooooooooooooooooooo
hahah GG
28th is when arena beta opens to all on epic games, and then actual release for the game and blockchain activated is Q1 2024 as per the roadmap.
I always have the timer with me 💦
i know but do we know at what time it opens on epic ?
for the bird i think that more attack speed gives him faster omega which gives more and more attack speed with arcanite
it was pho, the stage 1 with no arcanite, just fighter buff, he was going nuts lol
for umbre slayer gives him attack speed on take down so if he kills multiple people he goes crazy
If your in US its like 8pm, australia is 7am ish
but i think there are some kind of bugs because i've seen some umbre and even some templar bird get like 300 attack speed
would be nice to have a breakdown of how every single stat works exactly
@stray gull does such thing exists ?
It will shortly, I'm working on an index of sorts that will be available this week or next
breaks down everything
Lovely !
more info to come this week 😉
is it normal that my phosphorus ended up at 0 ATTACK SPEED vs 3 mud ?
it says up to 10 times so at best it should be able to drain 50% attack speed, i don't get how i can get down to 0
2 different mud = 20 times perhaps ?
and then the illuvials attack animation is so long that it cant cast its omega even if its had full energy for 10 seconds lol
painful
wait that's up to 10 times PER illuvial ? 😮
exactly xD
I love how the sear line moves while omegaing now, actual beyblade
hello. I have a problem with a code. I recive one email but the code is smalled not complet all plots. Some one with same problema?
Is the pvp going to have a leaderboard?
Yes
On the 28th ?
Yes
How do you know ?
thanks
@stray gull could you confirm ?
Shortly after the 28th, it's one of the first updates we intend to push
Along with custom camera angles so you don’t have to set cam perfectly in every single game? 😉
And key bindings so we can switch to our selected camera angles. Like we can set 3 camera angles.
yeah just make it that if i move my cam and press control 4, then in future games i can press 4 to go to that angle
@reef basalt
yeah when I didnt finish you off i was destined to die
I was like yeah hes gonna switch it up and It would be a stab at a dark how it looks like lol
@serene lance 👀
what is this speed!!!
@serene lance I'm changing teams, you convinced me
Toxic teams look killer must say
Haha im just messing round with different stuff, good to have multiple decks.
Your little unkillable buffalo at the back 
nop lmao
I ever played a match that lasted long than 5 rounds yet .....lol
experiencing a pretty bad bug where after round starts, multiple illuvials/augments that were placed are removed from play
Fixed in next patch
New patch on epic games release 28th / 29th fixing mastery point issue, things coming off board.
- more
that's great to hear! Cheers mate
apparently its releasing on epic in 12 hours from now
Oh true, probably good to test the patch before it opens up to everyone
gg @lusty sleet that was a fun back and forth 😄
gg @worn thicket 🫡
@west quartz Dude thats two games in a row my dual just casts to the center of the board,,,,\
Great game bro! Was trying to find and tag you 😄
Working on trying to make my own Umbre & Gyro deck
That was some fantastic testing
Almost 2nd best.
If my dual cast to the center again, I'm going to rage lol
Likewise mate, that slayer combo is demonic when it gets going 🔥
Just need a better early game and tanking plan! - The 5 fire wasn't really working out, trying Toxic now 😄
Hey guys i am new to ilv
Any one who can answer my questions??
hahaha
When the game releases what are we going to win in the arena as rewards?
Nothing till now. No announcement about rewards yet.
hello, can we see all team builds that were in tournament?
gg 🙂
gg
your comp is crazy strong early
If ur referring to CC tournament they are all in announcements you'll need to scroll up
yes, I meant those. Thanks, I missed that message
oh did we play? what's your nick in game?
@wispy quail GL sir 
play nice please 🙂
btw any chance we have a patch before friday? kinda afraid of the shitstorm the tournament could look like if a couple things aren't fixed
This is a WIP Toxic Ramp deck, only my 2nd game with it
Disappearing Illuvial issue is fixed internally - will be fixed publicly when we update.
LOL MY RHAMFYRE ULT DID NOTHING
WP sir, need to heal suppress and position better
hah yeah iwas surprise i thought i was fucked haha
team has potential though 100%
rhamphyre with 0 omega power?
thats a fun legendary augment
if its that 😄
hoping not a bug!
Was Spore Empath Team
seen some ramphires deal no damage on omega tbh
there's lot of factor that can decast ramphyre too.
Balance changes on or before 28th launch? Such as gauntlet or rhamphyre omegas?
rhamphire is fine, gauntlet gets nerfed i think but not sure
is a plan to have unlimited decks saved, or having a way to import deck fastly from a seed code is planned ?
you can already import a deck
Import ?
You can share a link to your deck. That isn't static because if you update your deck, it's updating too in the link.
and If you delete it. you loose the save.
and Am I blind but where is import ? 😮
no plans for changes prior to the 28th. Will be changes after
@bronze canopy I feel like phosphours should win
its a positioning match up
I also got lucky with the augment
No worries
Wonder if we’ll see changes before sundays tourney then
Or its gonna be gauntlets all round
made it to the elo hell
some guy shared his build and i had a button saying import as one of your team, i don't recall where
Well thanks
@bronze canopy Didnt bond...
You will be able to purchase more team slots in game on blockchain release
#morerevdis
anyone knows how to hide the health bars please ?
I wouldn't use any of them though
why?
still better than nothing
God this is a flawed system 
@lusty sleet nice changes man!
its only because there arent enough players right now with early access, so the gaps are too wide
once 100k people start playing this you will find matches with very close elo to your own
Thank you dude! - Working a lot better now
GL
and always be around plus or minus 10 rating
Bruh these round 1 attipo x 4 and round 2 empath x 7 is just stupid good 😆
did you fight hisapio?
I have fought multiple people doing it now
Round 2 7 empath 3 nature and ranger empath staff, their whole team starts with 1000 shield each and the white bar never goes down lol
water fillish no refund 50EN afer Omega
Can we get an augment that does minus shield power, similar to minus healing and minus energy gain please
lol @neat walrus gg
Hi nice game😀
Fire build best to counter?
I dont think anything at round 2 counters 1000 shield + strong heals
If you survive till later rounds and can drop a rhamphyre on the group then yeah sure probably
rhamphyre does zero damage
especially cause he nevers casts with all the blind/disarm/stun
yeah well this too
you can play it insta cast but he won't be able to kill the empaths
I was hoping you would be played again. You like that?
What would be the best approach to deal with that build?
its broken right now, especially if you throw in water gauntlet ranger
wait there are people not playing water gauntlet empaths nowadays?!
not many
i feel like past 1700s it's either that, or 7 fire Rhamphyre, or some other dumb vertical with 7 shit units and 1 unit at 90+ MP
so you mean there are 3 main comps overperforming, like in any other game ? 😮
I mean that it's sad that it feels like if you place 3 units at more than 75MP or try to make nice synergy combos... you're just playing wrong
good games @lean ivy
Ya solid games 🙂
pick a good late game unit, (if not available, Gauntlet will do it) surround it with 7 bad units that just give a specific trait, and you have your comp
yep that's pretty much it
1 or 2 carries, rest is there for synergy is tanking
kinda like tft
@topaz lion what a match!
in TFT you don't necessarily go for the verticals, in fact most standard meta comps had nice and rounded synergies. yes some verticals are strong but most of the time they require either spatula or a specific augment to actually be good. Here you don't need an imprint to reach max water or empath and in fact if you do... you even still have space to play whatever carry you want in it
Honestly i think the tier 0 units just need some form of nerf, perhaps make them cost 30 not 25, that way you cant put 4 out in one go and get 5 of a single affinity round 1 including bonding
or is even limiting max illuvials based on round a possiblity? instead of having all 8 slots instantly, make it round 1 = 3 slots, round 2 = 5 slots, then round 3 onwards is the full 8 ?
that way zerg rushing can still work but its not busted
hmmm i kinda like the fact that the option is there for either agro play or more slow paced build up
or increase drone hp from 1000 to 1200
what it requires imo is those units in that 75-90 range and even most 100s to be better than they are now
so that they aren't taken down just by an army of T0 empaths with a Blazenite
it's already 1000
but yeah more hp would make more expensive decks more viable, at the cost of making the cheap ones probably trash
it's a thin limit there and we're only on the first iteration
yeah it's kinda outrageous that a tier 0 empath can tank 3 slayers lmao
ideally both options are viable
i swear down that Umbre is not a unit
whoops
it loses to EVERYTHING that people play now
i'd agree to that :p
literally an stage 1 air flish can tank a 3 slayer 2 augement umber for the whole combat
i think the slayer needs to change from takedown to assist to make it sustainbly viable
hahaha
same for slashin, who gave slashin negative numbers?
i feel like slashin heals the opponents
theres some very obvious nerfs to be had, and im sure the team will start balancing asap
honestly with just a few balance changes its already gonna be very competetive
i really hope we get a patch like... FRIDAY
Ben said theres no balance patch before or on the release on the 28th/29th which surprised me, but yeah hopefully before the Sunday tourney would be good
so all these people who just learned how to play gauntlet water clump don't have time to adapt and so the people who just know how to play can farm them
how can there be no pach before 28
theres a lt of bugs
cant give this into hands of the masses
sorry i meant no balance changes
every tiem you sell a unit you pray you wont bug out
they fixed the mastery point stuff
did they also fix the rollback when you sell a unit with augments?
not sure on the specifics but it seems like a lot of the mastery point and illuvials coming off the board when the round starts is fixed internally and in next patch
just no balance changes
only if it has augments attached... no? i only have it when i sell stuff with augments or to which i'm bonded
im not 100% sure, i avoid selling
which is super annoying because it encourages playing those narrow dumb decks
would love for gauntlet and some stuff like empath rush to be nerfed before the tourney
would make it way more interesting
ok but then 7 fire needs a nerf too xD
7 fire deck isnt even good lol
that thing makes flish delete titanor in 3 colossus before titanor casts it's outrageous
its good enough that half the leaderbord spams it
well it destroys slower start up decks or i haven't found the right slow start yet, what i can tell is that t3 their board is full and wipes even a 5 bulwark board for almost free, and then T4 Ramphyre comes in and shit starts getting nasty if your comp isn't finished yet
the fire rhamp deck is great against anything that doesnt have the counters
but it can definitely be stopped
on epic games launch it will destroy any new average player for a while
i have a 50% success rate against that deck with terror bird build, its mostly a positioning match up
and it doesnt matter if a guy is 1900 rating or 1400
did i guess correctly or no
coin toss
The whole point of the fire deck was that it was a weak deck that we thought would beat everyone (it did) and make them think it was OP (worked)
that's what's disgusting with those vertical comps... dude doesn't even need to be good at the game, if they just follow the flow chart and do the same thing everytime, they'll still be fine most of the time
Welcome to Illuvium
by removing the randomness aspect in game
they added the randomness aspect in match up
its a deck vs deck not a player s player
im very keen to see these hidden xborg decks on sunday and see if theyre actually any different to the various stuff i have seen already
There is one deck that nobody is playing
Is it one specific unit people arent taking advantage of?
when both players play "balanced" decks theres actually a lot of positionning you can do, but yeah those cheap crap rushdown decks are just auto-pilot. no way i get myself to play that.
wdym, i love round 2 7 empath/7 fire/7 water builds
he won't say, and if he does you can't even trust it cauz he's just gonna mind f*ck you xD
Hmm kind of
there's a tournament with 2k on the line this weekend, no way SJUD shares his tech
Some things i havnt seen much of: Slashin, Malura, Vermilliare
The taunt just makes melle comps really difficult...My units be running across the map
Verminio is ok to punish water packs that don't pack correctly, but it they do it stays outside... a 25MP air flish would accomplish just as much
Haha i just love the whole belittling everyone about the fire rhamp deck and hinting at these gatekept decks, im just excitedto see what they are, i want to have a 'oh shit true' moment, wonder if ill be dissapointed and its all talk 😉
that taunt randomness is really upsetting, like the thing right in front of your unit taunted at the same time as 3 other ones who are not in attack range... why is it that everytime your unit will go to the furthest one?! xD
What makes you think its all talk considering we are sitting on top of the ladder already?
sad facts
@waxen swan will disagree
A win streak in placements to get heaps of lp and then barely play to avoid losing any doesnt make the ladder matter much right now
ahahahah
cool, free win
umbre is weak??
Rake > umbre
Im just expecting these other decks to be so much better than anything thats being played from how you talk about it
cheaper, does the same thing
im talking about the line
They are certainly better than the fire deck lol
wrong lmao
Rake is ok for it's cost i think. question is when do you realistically place Rake over 2 Atippos... xD
Would you consider the fire deck better than other things being played then? 7 empath rush, water gauntlet spam, collosus verdant toxic, air enchanter gauntlet, ect?
Cause i dont
I dont think it is
still yet to see a colossus verdant toxic build over 1750 xD
those mpath ecks are insane they loock like they are at a U2 rock concert on weed
with mud too, annoying
Who plays mud except me? LoL
An epic, I just woke my wife up. 😂
im slowly as in very slowly otimising my deck
the atk speed reduction is painful
@opaque cape doesn't play his deck his planning for the tournament on ladder
hahah so good!
im pretty sure him and SJUD will bring the same deck
yes they all will
and by round 2 of the tourney people will copy it lol
or they will gatekeep until they are in losers bracket
gonna be funny
Im hoping only me and the team are playing casual so i can blame my failures on da team .....roflmao
i seriously wished that we'd be deck locked for the tournament
no copy pasta but also, we're playing bo1. having multiple decks available would be great in a bo3 setup but here it's bo1 so it's all about getting the info of what did that dude play the previous round
if you copy a deck that ive been playing for a week
and you only saw it once, you wont have the same feel and will just lose the mirror match
Probably, but wont stop people
people will still be fine losing the mirror against you if they feel they gonna win everyone else
but yeah if the game balance was on point comfort with the team would prevail over "the right tech"... we just know it's not the case now
imo the best setup would be to bring 3 decks
opponents gets to ban 1 of them
and you pick one of the other 2
argh, 29 is so long
that's so Hearthstone xD
but yeah i agree that would be a good system
can we have a list of all the keywords and what they do?
they were included in the v0-2-1 patch notes, not on the new one and yeah would be nice having a definition to check
And you should win by both of the rest of your decks 😄
Btw I like the hearthstone system
Wonder if leviathan will be some sort of arena where you create a deck of random cards and play against others random decks
Anyone know if the arena will be available on mobile? Im assuming it’s pc only but I’m to lazy to go read lol
Arena on mobile is planned for 2025
Awesome thanks for info! Appreciate it
leviathan is supposed to be arena, but with the boosted stats of illuvials found in the wild and different MP scales
iirc
Yeah ascendant is like destiny normal pvp, leviathan is iron banner
I would love a code!
WTA about grit and resolve? What do they do exactly?
Getting impatient….. I wanna play arena so bad
Whats is better, Pure Attack damage or Physic attack dam?
Flat resist the DMG, if you have 30 grit and some1 hit you with less then 30 Phys DMG then you take 0 dmg
Pure, it ignores any resists
how it works? Its based on hit?
if one illuvial gain 30 pure attack damage, how this dam is done?
30 dam per auto attack
if crit and with 150% crit amp. your damage will be 45 pure damage on crit
150% crit amp is the base of all illuvials. every crit amp you add, add 1% to it
noice
Just got the chance to starting playing pvp and absolutely loving. Time just flies by. Rocking toxic and its appropriately named haha
I'm in a patch meeting atm and although there are no specifics, there will be a balance patch coming on the 28th
Highly likely things are the gauntlet being OP, but realistically it will not be many things tweaked
Thanks for the update
i'd say empath is much more broken than gauntlet though
Water, Empath, Gauntlet are all being discussed as well as tier 0
But can't give any specifics yet, just for those inbvolved in tournaments a patch is coming
All sound like good things to get some tweaks initially
thanks !
We do feel apart from a few things it's looking pretty balanced considering all the units aren't in
Obviously come 28th, way more testing will be done
any slayer buff discussed ? it's kind agarbage atm
Yah there are just a couple things which is completely normal for any game like this
@low halo have a time to launch tomorrow?
Sad purple pepe
Honestly it's bizarrely balanced considering the trillions of variables and the game isn't AI balanced yet
Cudos to the QA and internal testing, i was expecting 10x as much trash comps
agreed
When all characters are in, the game will allow for an order of magnitude of more counterplay
So very exciting times ahead
any idea when that may occur ? (roughly)
things that need some balancing:
-3 air
-5/7 empath
- water gauntlet (cap how many stacks you can get?)
- couple augments
It was awesome, gg)
i think the stakcs aren't the issue, it's the AoE, if you remove the Aoe it gets normal
Yea our games were great! Really had no clue who would take each round haha
if it only kills 1 unit each cast, its still -1 unit every 3 seconds
like it's a 70 weapon that can eventually OS a unit, but just 1 at a time
it can kill once stacked so probably around the 20 seconds mark, seems fair to me
that gives you some time to react and at least it doesn't obliterate your whole frontline at once
its too easy to play for how strong it is
and the counterplay to it is kinda lacking
especially since you can move it for free every round and i cant keep up moving my rhamphyre to try guessing where ranger is gonna be
an even bigger issue is probably 3 air, it completely negates every caster deck like rhamphyre/invokers
i think air needs to go to 20/30/40% debuff on the thresholds, not 40% on 3
i think empaths wreck the gauntlet
empaths wreck anything
indomitable phosphorus probably wrecks it too
dont think so
wanna try in custom ?
playing kieran right now i think, he's porklamb right?
Yeap
4 tasty points
Any tips on how to stop full rogue teams haha
fight in the corner
@opaque cape game crashed on your end too ?
Hello Guys i Hope i can ask here about mechanics. What makes Frost and Clumsy or. Poisen how much dmg per Stack ?
Aaand i don’t understand the Difference Grit + resolve and Energy , physical Resistenz isnt it the same ?
no just took long
@umbral oracle GG, what is wrong with your rhamphyre? HAHA
Hey, Illuvialmaster has a good dictionary for this but to answer some questions:
grit = flat physical reduction
resolve = flat energy reduction
energy resist = % energy reduction
phys resist = % physical reduction
lets be real here you just want to see the world set on fire by your instant cast rhamphyre 😄
Ahh Okey so for example 10 resolve gives 10 less Energy dmg. But Not for dmg over time Like Magma? Where can i finde the illuvialmaster Dictionary?
100 Energy Resist would reduce 100% ?
How can I get code for pvp now? I built some cool deck I would like to try.
Ok, I can post a link but "illuvialmaster com" should be findable.
Yes, 10 resovle would reduce 100 energy dmg to 90 dmg
Magma or "molten ground" is energy dmg and therfore reduced by resolve (Shouldn't this be true dmg since 25 energy dmg would nearly always be nothing and I know that it does quite some dmg?)
Yes, 100 energy resist = 100% reduction but you basically can't buff that stat
No, resistances are a muliplication factor;
0 resistance is the same as Damage / 1
10 resistance is damage /1.1
100 resistance is damage / 2
Etc.
There are plenty of ways to buff the stat but it isnt broken.
Gonna be a lot of plat players drop down fast when the gauntlet is nerfed lol
ah, I see misunderstood that. Thanks for jumping in
omni vamp is healing per attack?
I think its Healing from all damage sources.
Physical / energy / true damage.
oh even better
maybe they should change this then
not sure about pure. because it's precised "physical and energy" on the augment
I mean it just isnt linear but logarithmic ; the higher it gets the less of an effect it will have.
Try to phrase that in a few words:
Ph. Resist: Damage reduction type that logarithmically decreases incoming damage after Grit is subtracted?
Is that even what logarithmically means? Idk im no mathmatician
Oh pardon me. I just thought omni -> all
Like Omni-potent -> all powerful. ^^
oh or you might be right. The augment is omni (Would check if pure is included)
Vampiric legendary augment is only physical and energy precised
I mixed the two
I have not conducted research. I may very well be wrong
the calculation itself helps a lot.
So, your answer was pretty much the best solution
"No, resistances are a muliplication factor;
0 resistance is the same as Damage / 1
10 resistance is damage /1.1
100 resistance is damage / 2"
And then it suddenly is an entire paragraph! Difficult to put that into a sentence of up to 10 words.
Empaths are slightly bugged atm, misscommunication internally and we've got some stacking behaviour on omega that wasn't intended
which is exasperated by water
so empaths we'll not be touching directly, just addressing the stacking behaviour (that may make them too weak)
we'll be bringing down top end water
gauntlet nerfs across the board but more so on the water gauntlet
aiming for patch on the 29th
and a follow up patch on the 1st if needed with anything revealed after the 29th 🙂
Fire comp fine as is? 👀 I guess i just have yet to figure out how to beat it lol
Seeing some things beat it semi-reliably. Not wanting to change too much on the first - will see how things settle
softly softly - cos our balance is in a very good state for an early release
(we think/hope 😄 )
That is soo true. Totally crazy for this state (Maybe for any state)
Sorry i don’t understand. So for example molten ground do 25 dmg per second. If the Enemy Target has 50 Energy resist , how much dmg it takes ?
Ahhh
you would take 16.6 damage per second
but isn't that reduced by resolve and therefor basically 0?
Depends on whether you have resolve
So, 16.6 - 20 resolve
most have above 16.6 with buffs and stuff
but I saw that the dmg my Sear did going up after he died
Chilling doing some Arena in VC if anyone wants some games 😄
No it would be 25 energy damage -20 resolve = 5 energy damage.
Then 5 damage * (100 / (100+resist))
So in the last case would be 3.33 damage per second
resolve first - so would be changing input damage by 10 - if you had 10 resolve 😛
I dont understamd what the difference is between
Damage x (100 / (100+resist))
Or
Damage / (1 + resistx0.01)
It should be the same right? XD i prefer the bottom one.
I see thanks 🙂
So broken
Do we know exactly when the game will be available on the Epic Game Store ? (date - hour)
20utc if i am right
just got illuvials removed when round started and got MP removed when next prep round started...
known bugs, or did i miss something op ? 😄
So ~28 hours from now ?
Ranks persistent or reset on release?
reset on release
release like tomorrow or release like public beta?
known bug, if i remember right it will be fixed with the release tomorrow
not tomorrow.
will be resets when significant changes occur
thanks ben.
every 2-3 games i get a game-breaking bug
either units disappear before battle or the game just stays on "waiting for opponent" forever and i need to exit. I tried waiting 15 minutes and yeah.. nothing happens
will stay like this until I leave game
I experience this kind of issue about 1 hour ago in a match. Didn’t see this before
Didn’t observe yesterday
but somehow this is off ?!
I mean why is a full empath lineup with max 73 dmg doing dmg against 150 grit/resolve?
150!? How did you make that happen lol
Try checking the damage bars. Maybe some are pure damage. Maybe they ignore some % of defense through augments. Maybe you just are confusing grit and resolve with Physical and energy resist.
Bulwark gives X resist right? And earth should give grit and resolve up to like 50
But other than that idk. I dont have the affinities and classes with me rn xD sorry if im wrong.
oh, wow, you are right... I confused the symbol for energy /physical resist with grit and resolve and didn't notice that bulwark gives resist
sorry 😄 I am just stupid 😄
26 hours so far. Long time since I have played a game that much in a few days
If you are having trouble with a game disconnecting please try to close down the game and load it up again. There are currently a few bugs that can cause this that we are working through.
Pin please 🙌🏻
@glad smelt Great match dude
Colossus hard to kill ahah
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hey maybe stupid question but if a fire unit run into a toxic unit which is water + nature nobody get faster hyper right?
when can plebs get in?
Tomorrow
Hyper is determined by dominant affinity only. So it depends on their dominant trait. If water = no hyper. If nature = fast hyper
it's 28th now for me tho 
allright makes sense now
Happy for you
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@gritty wren GG WP as always sir
GG!
bang bang just got it 🤩
man, all is redeemed..
i think the ranking system needs some work
Imagine it being 2 units though, one dominant nature, one dominant water.
Fire is -2 [very bad] for nature, and +1 [slightly good] for water. So the water would gain a single point. Your fire however would gain 1 point as well.
I agree
this placement is too harsh, and after that. it's too slow
maybe it's the first few games that are especially harsh
overwhelmingly harsh and slow
@dull wind lol
Yea same. Haha you definitely had the W as well
it was gg, cheers
Any code for game please
i just tried my opponent had 3 toxic infront with water dominant i put an air unit to them and my 2 fire more on side but when i looked on hyper my air unit had -2 and my fire both +2 and his toxic had both 2 was kinda weird maybe i missed something
hey so if I'm planning on holding a shield is there a 1 hander that would go with it?
probably 2 nature 1 water. That would give your fire +3 though but would explain -2 for air
i think i missed his ranger he was the 3. toxic prob with nature thats why my fire got both 2
and my air -2
gg @uncut comet
gg always problems against toxic dunno what to do xD
you almost had me tho
1 tank + psion. The tank will keep the enemy away, your psions will destroy it.
in theory that should work xD
never tried
i want to beat them with my rogue deck somehow but also those indomitable/invulnerable augments cockblocking so hard
would be nice if rogue could jump half the way so u can put some in middle and they jump in backline and some at the end and they jump in the middle , like its now u have no choice xD
I had a shock/psion comp with 2 colo to tank, it's fine, but it does get wrecked pretty hard by water gaunt comp so it feels bad to play
Water gaunt is confirmed going to be nerfed
Turns out getting AoE 1-shot isn't good for psions
I know, that doesn't help me today 😛
Are people going to need codes after the 28th to play arena?
I don't think so
Just to know if I can gather some friends to learn the game together
No (should have replied to the other message I guess)
It will be available for everyone like Fortnite. No code needed
I did. 😃 just slower
Slower in every channel
Slower than me… wow. That’s slow
A bit overwhelming amount of options in the arena. Got to get through that learning curve
lots of helpful guides in #🎨〕community-content
I like the game. Please give me my life back though
Is there a guide that allows me to brute force the epic games laucher to give me access?
Awesome to see 😃
where do i see the starting energy/max energy of a unit?
looking to get into the beta. too late?
starting tomorrow, open for everyone.
neat
3 games in a row i ecounter same deck from 3 different players
toxic, collosus, berserker
@opaque cape man that team is absurd 😩
its broken, needs nerf
indeed
I put 2 healing nerf augments in my deck because of our previous match and not even like that
those shields are 2 much
gotta find counters. don't just play the same comp expecting different results 🙂
healing debuff doesnt work on shields
what have you lost to with that team @opaque cape ?
kek 🤣
like 10-0 right now
I think that awnsers you @coarse echo
it's broken
give us shield mitigation augments
it does say something, but could also mean the current meta just doesn't know how to deal with it. we will see.
also dont forget im one of the top players out there 😄
the build seems pretty much cookie cutter to me but you're good 💯
Good to hear you guys ended up sorting out a balance patch for this week, gonna make it even more competitive and fun 💯
won once with mud when you didn't place yourself in corner
full fire with double fliish could work i think
7 fire 3 psions 3 fliich with fire gauntlet
You’re using the empath & Templar deck ?
yes
Think I better play Zero hahaha
the same happened to me, just took some notes about that trio
Getting rage vibes, the game works
the game even works on a shitty mac pro 2015
how do you get your ulti faster?
Is there anyway to unbond the ranger yet? Or do we have to sell the illuvial and take the -25% cost
i think undo button bottom left will undo 1 last move
not sure if it work on bonding tho
theoretically it should
ranger Tanto has "Exploaiting Weakness" on Omega. what happened to enemy or something?@coarse echo
@mighty tulip GG
"exploit weakness" does increased damage per missing health
so it does more damage the lower their health
Lol
GG let's try again 😁
@mighty tulip
Seems more is better ....
Don't judge me 🤣
Hi everyone, loving PvP so far, can anyone explain how or if dominant affinities hace an effect on hyper? Or is it only used to bind you ranger
Nice deck, gg
gg @odd dust that was a close one. Verry simlar builds too
@west quartz gg 😄
don't know if we can call that good game though lmao
I watched. That was top tier snooze content.
at least now we know that the best empath counter is empath lol
gg!
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empath need nerf :p
@prime shard
thanks
thanks
going to rank zero
not if i beat you there
I put 3 shock illivuals on the board but I did not get synergy? why?
Try Nature phosphorus with attack speed and omega power per omega. as long as you give it 40 seconds, it will shred through anything
they are probably from the same line
not probably, they are
so there are not enough shock illivals at the moment
ok lol
ty
next patch with the last Illuvials and you'll have 3 Shock Illuvial - lines 🙂
what is considered "on assist" ?
Red panda, Tree kangaroo and the Squid
was trying to build around shock after I noticed nothing happened
yeah only quid line is shock atm, you can bond ranger with certain weapon to correct affinity to get extra shock on board. and maybne get lucky and get a legendary augment for third
have fun with it, so many combos to build 🙂
Do we earn interest in PvP for not spending points?
are those overworld codes?
no, survival only for economy play
how did you watch it btw i wasn't streaming it 🧐
just played pvp for the first time today, gg guys game is great
you can activate the shock synergy with any of the squids and a shock ranger
i was
shock will be so op when red panda comes out
@karmic drum gg, i f'd up and bonded to wrong illuvial at a certain wave
i can see it
Ophisto's Omega is super fun to play with, proccing the double cast feels great
I'll definitely be playing some shock teams when there's more available
quick question: granite for example gains extra grit and resolve for every earth illuvial - do the earth from granit count aswell? like from other granites or even itsself?
granite doesnt get grit/resolve from earth, only from granite
so it also doesn't get the 10 for the entire team?
from the primary synergies earth the whole team that isnt earth gets the small bonus, so that includes the granite units
sooo granite and earth doesnt really work together other than earth giving a bonus to the whole team? and I assume this is the same for other affinities then?
toxic colossus berserker works 🙂
my tenth round so far, and no bugs to report, I guess the game is goddamn ready to be public
also did not find any bugs so far! really well done game in my oppinion. There is still room for little impovements, but that is just cherry on the cake. For example I would like to be able to look at the board again after the last round (to work out what I could have done / placed differently for example). But maybe thats just me. I sent a feedback though 🙂
Lmao the number of t0 spam and/or gauntlet teams is ridonculous
Just want to know: what is meant with on assist?
will be available in 9 min?
In PvP, am I matched with someone close to my rate?
i haven't seen a single gauntlet team all day
ideally, yes
and the very second i said it, i tagged one lmao
the game will be available for download in 5 min?
Wanted to see if axodon scaling omega on casting omega would be any good, didn’t work out
hard to tell when this empath deck is completely busted
could be decent into other matchups
29TH ON PATCH
@cyan olive code?
plssss need a codeee witing for 2 years this game ahah
21 hours to go
can Augments stack? aka use the same augment but different tiers?
Yep
Why the button to download the game is greyed out ? I have entered a code but can't download anything
the empath deck is ridiculously unbeatable, there is s.th. unproportional about it
im so fing bad at this gam3e
i get so sadwhen i lose
arena made me thought i was better
but no im a smelly asshole garbage dump
i just want to be good
bring back coaching 
Still , it was GG, Caveman 🙂
Dont be so hard on yourself 😆
You gotta realise most people playing rn have been around and know what theyre doing, wait 1 more day and there will be thousands of newbies to play against
Try reopening epic launcher 🙂
ok there is a bug when I sold my socoriox, any move I made this turn doesnt get placed
happened 2 games in a row
that's pretty bad
I have a question, i feel like someone from the arena gave dev team would only know, maybe not.
When an augment says “nearest ally” does it determine the closest one via the first closest hex of an ally illuvial, or the very centre, or the most coverage?
For example if i have a big unit like Ophisto right butt up against the other illuvial (who has the ‘give nearest ally’ augment) as in their hexes are touching, but on the other side is a tiny doka with a gap of say 1-3 hexes between them but his centre is closer than the ophisto, who does it pick?
Why deleted?
Where you got this from @languid sparrow ?
Where do you have the raw numbers from?
is the next patch tomorrow?
cheers mate
i read 29 for patch.
Seriously take a few months off playing, they change a bunch of stuff, and now I suck bad 😦
I probably can't take launch day off to 'git gud'
Everyone is using empath and the gauntlet team lmao
yeah making game literally unplayable
no room for other comps
I was playing tsunami gauntlet, then stopped when I saw other people were using it
Become a meme real quick
Team is super on it, so I suspect will look v different tomorrow after launch
/on the 29th or whenever a patch comes
Yes if on different illuvials
so if its on the same one it wont stack?
Don’t think you can place on the same one? Won’t let you iirc
It does let me do it but I jsut dont now if they both activate
it stacks. Example is putting the double energy augments on rhamphyre which allows it to almost instantaneously cast its omega
okay thanks 🙂 aka I assume u do this to everyone when your playing haha
I play off meta teams currently which is why I havent been ranking up lol
The ones I stack usually are the healing inhibitors against the empath teams lol
I'm messing around trying different combos for fun. Playing pure meta has never been as fun to me, feels stale. Hard to rank up and play non meta comps. Keeps it challenging.
💯
Has the arena released for public yet?
tomorrow
👍
if u activate 7 empath ur account should get locked till tomorrow
I really hope it's fixed for launch tomorrow for player retention sake
Can we all play now?
@olive hedge did our game just freeze up?
lol sure they were
Should we just try to get out and restart?
This hasn’t happened to me before
I have 20+ people watching my youtube stream and am trying to play with a viewer, does anyone have a code for me?
@zenith mortar ?
man ive been waiting for three hrs on here for a code drop beter get them typing fingers ready lol\
I dont have any more currently
distance measured to the center
No worries but I'll have to play something else then, thanks anyway
I'm all out also, and it's usually when Jeremy is asleep (I think)
shiz ight im out then been here 3 hours just wanna play overworld all night no work tomorrow gotta take the L and play elder ring or somthing lol
yep just moved my 25+ viewer stream to tarkov
Sorry man, If I had any others 😢
rain check save me one pleaseeeeeee 
i have not played that looks fun tho!
yeah, it's incredible, if you like shooters I can't recommend it enough, easily one of the best games to ever release
might just giver a try tonight!
feel free to friend me if you want, would be more then happy to run with you over the weekend...I've ended my stream for now, waiting 20 min for a code while everyone stared at me then not getting the code was pretty vibe killing, so im gonna play off stream, have a good night dude
hell yea man i definetly will if i get it! peace out!
What time is the launch time for arena?
Nov 28th 8PM UTC
Second question may be for a different server but does overworld return with arena? And how to get access to that when it returns
If you had access for private beta 2, you can play OW tomorrow when released
Awesome! I don’t remember if I had pb2 lol my comp graphics died and took a while to buy a new one! Came back to try and get access and found all this info so exciting lol
Thanks for the info bro @vernal forum
no probs man
do we get illuvitars by default?
No. Need to get one at the illuvidex or buy a d1sk then set it as your pfp on the site. It gets reflected in game
Thanks mate
people using the water gauntlet should give up on life lol
LOL_Zodd was a joke just now...
My first game today, enemy places 5 attipos and 7 empaths lol cool
need those healing debuffs in every deck lol
Good luck with that, its shields that are the problem
ah ben addressed it sounds like its a unintended bug.. slooks like should be fixed in update on 29th
Yeah awesome, Ben at first said there wasn't going to be any balance changes in the patch, so I'm glad you guys changed your mind haha, just a couple broken things gone will make it way more competitive and fun, will make launch and sundays tourney way better 
gg @stray gull 🔥
gg dude!
does anyone know what true sight does?
immune to blind
Do shields work against both physical and energy damage?
thanks, I have been using it wrong lol
Illuvialmaster has a dictorary page if you ever need to remind yourself what something means lol I am double checking it all the time as of late it seems 😂
will do!
What a lame team to play and win with @rancid timber
First time trying it. I agree its lame. Someone played it against me so I figured I'd try it out. It needs nerf
Most of the linear teams are dominating.
Heavy one or two classes or affinities.
Until they come up against something that challenges their hyper.
I've noticed that. I'm trying anything and everything right now just to learn how it all works
Everyone is abusing empaths, if thats what your talking about,its getting patched within 2 days team has confirmed.
I’ll probably end up with your team the way I’ve been changing 😂
I'm gonna have to show it to @fallen vortex
Hi, for anyone who has been playing the new PVP, the Ascendent arena guide says you start with 120 mastery points. However, I’ve seen people say it’s 100. Which amount is right?
right now it's 100 in PVP
OK thanks for clarifying
Someone ran 7 water and gauntlet against me
so incredibly stupid
making me real bored with pvp real quick
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