💰〕token

[narrow creek]

Alcohol is poison I don’t think it’s good for brain health ser. 💀

[hazy orchid]

The internet post disagreed

[sage haven]

Looks like a parody account lol

[hazy orchid]

Don’t know what that means

[narrow creek]

Lol tell my hangover that alcohol is good for me

Poor @hazy orchid

ILV over $7 😁

[sage haven]

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-im-so-excited-shimmy-shaq-happy-gif-6236349190649248976

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/heated-rivalry-connor-storrie-ilya-rozanov-shower-gay-gif-792281005545638283

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-disappointed-disgusting-disgusted-looking-gif-6561690286467128067

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/soap-bath-time-funny-gif-14413604

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[sage haven]

[narrow creek]

HR… Rich

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/what-is-going-on-dwight-schrute-the-office-whats-going-on-whats-happening-gif-25628842

[gray igloo]

I am stlll in my short from a few months ago

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-really-inappropriate-toby-flenderson-paul-lieberstein-the-office-nbc-gif-16115117

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-the-office-memes-ryan-howard-ryan-focalette-gif-15869760766115619323

[sage haven]

tightest credit spread since 2007.

https://tenor.com/view/here-we-go-again-gta-gif-20483040

[azure cliff]

What do you mean?

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[sage haven]

lots of money chasing yield

[gray igloo]

I have no doubt u did not short this coin. No doubt whatsoever. Done a x 4 I told ya to short and you laughed. When I think of this coin, I think of u.

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/what-surprised-gif-25739412

[narrow creek]

You shorted ILV and got a 4x off it? Wow

[sage haven]

ru sure its me

[narrow creek]

You do like to laugh

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/friday-smokey-chris-tucker-gif-6846132099057963056

[sage haven]

at dumb people

he's not

[narrow creek]

Where can you short ILV?

[sage haven]

bybit

[quick heron]

That's haram

[narrow creek]

And down we go

[sage haven]

why ru so emotional

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-drill-staying-alive-rose-looks-at-camera-whatever-gif-6259963079393116309

[sage haven]

oof not good. 91.5 is key

lots of derisking

[narrow creek]

Interesting take

[sage haven]

midweek reversal

[compact robin]

Suspect this to be correct..... but I could just be coping

[warm nebula]

except axie

[brazen void]

I haven’t seen a single post about the game itself or any sort of update towards that. All people talk about is just APR and the token movement. They really don’t care 😂

[sage haven]

this is token channel

[quiet thorn]

Wen mmo play test

[hallow patio]

now? already some people test it

[analog crow]

As fox said, it’s currently on going. More people will gain access as the weeks go on!

Not much will be shown outside of the team for those who have access though, since everyone is under NDA

[narrow creek]

Do you ever read the other chats?

[brazen void]

I was referring to axie. All I see about axie is just about token and price and nothing about the game

[narrow creek]

Ah my bad G

[narrow creek]

I should have responded to @quiet thorn he’s the one asking about mmo lol. General chat has been pretty active

[brazen void]

But yea I am pretty active in other chats, mostly arena

[narrow creek]

Man I might go apply lol

[granite elm]

cool idea

[narrow creek]

I don’t think it’s worth it

Well depends if part or full time

[granite elm]

in 10 years, BTC goes to 5 mil, and they have Holidays money to spend 🤷

[verbal cove]

1 more week of holiday then we go to the moon

[hazy orchid]

F mcdonalds

steak and shake it is

who wouldve thought steak and shake gonna single handedly put the market on its back

[ornate crescent]

Fairly clear .eth friends, friends don't let friends stay staked in ETH. What an absolute disaster, risk-adjusted since 2022. Cannot believe anybody would continue holding a DAO's treasury in this stuff.

[narrow creek]

It actually taste good 🤤 they use beef tallow and you can buy their tallow as well lol

Get a frisco melt with extra sauce and a extra patty

Fried some wings with their tallow a few weeks ago. No seed oils in my house

[true tree]

I have been making beef tallow for a long time. It is so much better than any oil.

[narrow creek]

Nice. Beef is superior

I do love the taste of lamb. But nutritional wise beef is superior. And I can’t really trust eggs anymore after that post on X. Smh might as well buy the cheap eggs now

Well I’m hungry now

[true tree]

I have my own chickens who have started laying which surprised me because I didn't expect it until spring. I have a bit of a different outlook on things. I purchase based on humane animal treatment more than just diet. First because I believe we are mandated to take care of animals, second because an animal treated well will be healthier overall. My chickens do get some corn. It helps raise their body temperature at night in our cold climate, even though they have an insulated shed and some heat.
I don't think a little hurts them, it is when their diet is mostly corn that things turn into a disaster. The only thing I really avoid in chicken and eggs is 100% vegan fed. Chickens are meant to eat bug and small mice they find in their shed.😂

[narrow creek]

Well said, thoughts on the dudes that feed their chickens strictly meat like left over beef or pork? Have you seen that lol

[true tree]

That isn't healthy either. People are so bad at just doing a balance and that is usually best.😂
I haven't fed my chickens beef yet but my ducks LOVED raw or cooked beef, especially liver.

[narrow creek]

Ducks too wow. Torial is ready for the end of days

So you eat duck eggs too huh

[hazy orchid]

yeah got rid of seed oils a year or more ago

my Pato Palace is almost ready

ducks coming in feb-march

[opaque scroll]

SLP from 27M to 40M. Now top 500 in CMC. Our token i ddnt take note but it’s currently 41.6M. Guess SLP will overtake us

AXS top 99 btw

[quasi wyvern]

Now that's what I'm talking about...

They look amazing...

[quasi wyvern]

That's right, Bugs not Drugs, you will get the best eggs EVER!

I never understood why Vegans don't eat eggs for their vitamins and minerals, it's not hurting the chicken, especially if you only buy ethically raised chickens/eggs.

[opaque scroll]

SLP has overtaken us.

[quick heron]

The state of the illuvium tokenchat in 2026

[opaque scroll]

About steak and chicken? Ofc. Better than talking about reality

[quasi wyvern]

Cathie Wood said the Bitcoin bottom is in...

[jagged fulcrum]

Cathie WOULD.

[sage haven]

have u watched pluribus

[quasi wyvern]

That's a high yield bond right there...

[quasi wyvern]

Just finished Landman S2, Pluribus looks great, Apple TV has had some bangers recently...

Severance was great, who would have thought the guy that brought you Zoolander could do such a cerebral hit!

[sage haven]

i think apple really give the producers liberty and budget to experiment. none of netflix woke sht

[narrow creek]

I mean the egg is technically an unborn chicken no ? 😂

[narrow creek]

Landman is good. Went by fast can’t wait for season 3

Anything with taylor sheridan is going to be wild. Like all three of the Yellowstone series

[ornate crescent]

If ETH is in your bag, ponder on this. What happens if this monetary premium evaporates? Learn a lesson from the BTC DATs. SOL owns DeFi e-commerce in 2026.

[narrow creek]

Explain this.

[silent moth]

Well…

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/yikes-cringe-fake-smile-gif-14838421114574087139

[molten otter]

Time to big short this token ?

[quasi wyvern]

Would you now though? Be honest...

[quasi wyvern]

Probably going to have to watch YellowStone now as well.

[narrow creek]

I’d start with the prequels 1823, and 1920. They are on paramount. The present day is on peacock. Then the son is having a brand new series coming out this summer on paramount. So 4 series technically nothing but chaos lol

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-rip-yellowstone-gif-14332988106660516445

[quasi wyvern]

Oh man, my Xmas weed just ran out as well, I might have to save these and binge the lot next Xmas holidays... Yes everything is better with weed...

[narrow creek]

Nah I don’t touch that stuff

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-philip-j-fry-drooling-fry-philip-gif-3846351

[true tree]

I don't like duck eggs except in baking.

[narrow creek]

Interesting. I really couldn’t tell a difference in taste. But I never had eggs from chickens raised right

[true tree]

Not unless it is fertilized which most eggs aren't.

That is why they won't eat them though @quasi wyvern, all the roosters that die to get the chickens. Unless humanely raised I don't eat eggs. Laying hens for regular eggs have the worst lives.

[true tree]

Duck eggs are usually stronger tasting. That said I had Muscovy ducks ao a bit different than a regular duck. I raised them for meat but when my dog and I didnt like the duck meat they became pets and the dog ate the eggs.

[narrow creek]

When food becomes friends 💀

[true tree]

All my food is my friends.

[narrow creek]

Now this I didn’t know interesting

[true tree]

That sounded weirder than it is.🤣

[true tree]

Yup, a rooster is needed to fertilize the egg. I don't have a rooster and am not planning on getting one as they can be a pain in a small flock. The girls lay the same amount of eggs whether a rooster is around or not.

[silent moth]

My kid loves eggs. But then saw a hen lay an egg!

Traumatized

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-cluck-caw-heihei-gif-12652868522842709939

[quasi wyvern]

I was sitting here thinking "Aren't there different eggs when the Rooster is around?"

Thanks for clearing that up...

Brunch for my dog and I, just sayin...

[narrow creek]

What is your dogs normal diet? Just eggs?

Sir you need to hide those toes before Jag wakes up

[quasi wyvern]

Hahaha

[sage haven]

[narrow creek]

Heard dog food is toxic

[narrow creek]

Rich will save us

[quasi wyvern]

I bought those eggs with crypto as well, the local farm takes Bitcoin...

Yeah most dog food has seed oils as a cheap filler, he eats fatty mince and eggs from the local farm... Nothing else...

[narrow creek]

Alright last 2 question than I’ll shut up lol. What the heck is mince and do you cook that food up or feed it to your dogs raw?

[sage haven]

they are byproduct. if u want to buy dog food at least buy the human grade one and soak it in water until it's soft

[quasi wyvern]

Haha I was going to ask you what salt you used...

Beef mince, from their offal, its called pet mince because its fatty and has a lot of the cow they don't sell.

I raised him on cooked meat, I heard it makes them less vicious...

[sage haven]

my dog eat kangaroo and some veggies

[quasi wyvern]

Yep they contain "Biosolids" which is our recycled shit, that's why pet food smells bad I reckon.

[narrow creek]

I use pink Himalayan salt and redmonds salt. I use lowrys season salt when I’m cooking . Why haha

[quasi wyvern]

Because that's all we have as Carnivores, you become a salt aficionado

I have Redmond's, Celtic, Baja Gold and Maldon...

[sage haven]

even tho they are good source of minerals, they do contain lots of heavy metals thats why salt are processed.
maldon is king tho

[narrow creek]

I like redmonds straight from the salt flats untouched

They used to have wars over salt for a reason now it’s bad.

[quasi wyvern]

Like a block you lick before mouthfuls?

[narrow creek]

lol well they do grind it up

[quasi wyvern]

I have the same... 💪 But I've always wanted a salt lick.

[narrow creek]

🫡

[quasi wyvern]

Oh man Twitter ruined my love for Redmond's 😞

[narrow creek]

Wait what happened that I don’t know about

[astral valley]

@narrow creek right! I feel that way a lot these days

[narrow creek]

Bro my day is about to be ruined 😂

[quasi wyvern]

Apparently its radio active because they explode it... I don't know if its true or influencer salt wars.

[narrow creek]

Gosh dangit thanks Jag

Well I do use this. But sometimes it’s too chunky

[true tree]

I don't know why the phrase "influencer salt wars" is so funny but it is.🤣

I use Windsor Himalayan salt. Don't tell me if it ia toxic.

[narrow creek]

It’s toxic

Kidding idk everything is bad for us nowadays. Humans have tainted everything

[narrow creek]

About?

Now I know what to feed my dog when I get one. Just need to remember to cook the food so they don’t turn into a wolf ✅

[quasi wyvern]

My feed on X is full of "Influencer Salt Wars" 🤣

An executive summary:

• Saxa Table Salt - Cancer as a service, cheap fillers.
• Redmonds - No microplastics but it's radioactive.
• Celtic Sea Salt - Not radioactive but has microplastics.
• Pink Himalayan Salt - Is actually from Pakistan, but "Pakistan Salt" doesn't sound as good. Also radioactive from blasting.
• Baja Gold - Nothing so far.
• Maldon - Nothing bad so far.

My salt journey: Table salt > Pink Himalayan > Redmonds > Celtic > Maldon > Baja Gold...

So much salt, one would think I played Overwatch.

[narrow creek]

“So far”

[astral valley]

That I am being left out of many very important loops and isolated information

Privileged Information

[narrow creek]

Oh yeah lol we are always being lied to. Never trust ANYTHING not even yourselves 😐

I learned a lot. Makes sense why dogs are always sick and itchy

[astral valley]

That tends to create a paranoia self fulfilling prophecy loop that devours your mind and life until your stuck into your own corner and the world is loud and everyone seems to be stuck in their own version of it too, so they seem unable to help.... Its 0/10 not recommended

[narrow creek]

So eggs and minced meats what kind of veggies do you use @sage haven

[quasi wyvern]

As soon as I got rid of the Kibble and switched him to fatty beef and eggs the itching stopped.

[narrow creek]

Don’t tell me broccoli screw that

[sage haven]

oh i go by tiktok influencer.
They are either toxic or has god healing properties, theres no inbetween

[quasi wyvern]

Fiber is a scam.

[cloud marten]

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Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

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[narrow creek]

Only trust Jesus

[sage haven]

Not even his real name

[narrow creek]

I do eats fruits and sourdough bread i keep my carbs under a 100 grams a day @quasi wyvern but sometimes I do like to go to steak and shake 😂

But agreed we don’t need high fiber stupid mainstream media

[sage haven]

ok i disagree. fiber is not a skem.
we have molars lol

[quasi wyvern]

Yeah long term Ketosis is hard, I think low carb instead of no carb is more sustainable long term.

[narrow creek]

Molars meant for chewing tough things… like meat lol

[sage haven]

Which meat is tough? Have u ever eaten raw

[narrow creek]

You need to chew any type of meat lol

[quasi wyvern]

Yep the Lebanese and French have raw beef mince dishes, if fresh it's quite tasty.

[astral valley]

I would pray about sourdough bread 🍞 🙏 And ask yourself why it got that name, is there a conspiracy of 🍞 Bread? 😬

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/beavo-potato-swallow-gulp-beavo-tiktok-gif-14753378551278721689

[quasi wyvern]

Haha the doco's on YouTube about that guy are awesome.

[narrow creek]

Yes it will make you crazy when you learn the truth about the world. I felt alone. But now I’m fine takes time.

[narrow creek]

Yep! We used to chew and tear. That’s what are teeth were designed for

[sage haven]

What is truth tho. Science is evolving

[narrow creek]

Now almost everyone has messed up teeth cuz we are always eating soft foods

[quasi wyvern]

And small round jaws.

[sage haven]

i just go by balance diet. Macros, micros, fiber, probiotic, vitamins and minerals

[narrow creek]

You can’t ignore our ancestory how we are developed

[sage haven]

and maybe TRT when im older

[quasi wyvern]

My cousin just started it, he's in his mid 40s, he says he feels 16 again...

[narrow creek]

What are you talking about now

[sage haven]

Our ancestry were hunter and gatherer then farmer

[narrow creek]

Yep and we can’t ignore that we got to chew and tear lol look at our teeth jag lol

[sage haven]

u think maryam called her son jesus? Its not even the local language at that time

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-nodding-andreas-robens-ugly-dentist-gif-18569647

[quasi wyvern]

The bread we have today in the supermarket is nothing like the bread in biblical times.

Let's take it easy on religion and politics. The world don't move to the beat of just one drum...

[sage haven]

we are omnivore. it's science

[narrow creek]

There is a reason why a 80 year old man back in 40s had the same testosterone levels of a 30 year old today

[quasi wyvern]

Our ancestors spent a lot more time in real light, not blue light.

Sunlight is the No1 boost for male hormones...

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-science-its-science-gif-20674302

[quasi wyvern]

Did you see that tall Scandanavian Man City footballer do a review of what he eats and drinks?

It had over 10 million views.

The cameras followed him going to farms and buying raw milk, eggs and large tomahawke steaks...

I made everyone in the house watch it and I said "See, Dad's not crazy" haha.

[narrow creek]

Yes we are omnivores… I agree that doesn’t take away we still need to chew on stuff. I see where you are coming from tho… we don’t eat like our ancestors anymore. I guess we need to chew gum eat really tough jerky idk lots of steak. lol

[narrow creek]

I have to look this up.

[sage haven]

sorry i only eat wagyu

[quasi wyvern]

Let me find it, I'll chuck it in off topic.

[narrow creek]

lol that’s it buttery soft.

[sage haven]

elon said work will be optional

Better invest in AI and robotics guys

[narrow creek]

Bout to get deep

[sage haven]

they speak aramaic

[quasi wyvern]

This AI bubble, with all the circular investing, I think they might just keep the lights on until they figure out how to monetise all of it.

I found co-pilot really handy when I started a new contract, hadn't written SQL in 20 years and it reminded me how to do joins again...

[sage haven]

they are in deep loss, the datacenters not even in their balance sheet, if one of them fold it may retrace

[quasi wyvern]

But I think the high ram prices are from cat videos more then anything else.

[sage haven]

sandisk just 10x, not bubble at all

u saw what sutton said about LLM?

[quasi wyvern]

No what did he say?

[sage haven]

well LLM is just gathering texts on the web and predicting the next word, they dont actually understand what they are saying

[obsidian bronze]

I think the partnership with a big company is essential for increasing price. Is there any plan for reviewing partnership?

[quasi wyvern]

That explains a lot of the problems I've seen, when the AI just makes up stuff because it wasn't sure of the answer.

That's huge...

[sage haven]

haha yea they hallucinate a lot.
i use them as a quick research tool not source of intelligence

[quasi wyvern]

That's it!!! Hallucination, tons of vids on YouTube about it...

Are we cooked?

[sage haven]

I mean they based on publicly available texts on the web, people can deliberately post junks on the web

AI is a great tool, but they are not there yet as how people are pricing them.
just like how internet were in the 2000s

[quasi wyvern]

I work in the project space and I see everyone using Co-Pilot/Chat GPT at work now.

Project Managers, BAs, Developers, Testers...

The only people I know that hates AI are the tech leads that have to approve pull requests from "Claude AI Slop Code"

[sage haven]

lol
People with specialized knowledge/skills hate AI because they are wrong a lot of the time.
it's good for plebs/generalist but it wont replace specialist like doctors, engineers

[inner quest]

Invest in H1b. Elon is a big fan

[unborn mountain]

@sage haven sir I thought you quit GameFi

[sage haven]

yea. we talk about eggs here

[true tree]

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-spit-drink-gif-15962434655473821932

[quasi wyvern]

How are you brother? Long time no see...

[unborn mountain]

Ha ha, @quasi wyvern must be 99.99% muscle and bone at this point, carnivore grind

[quasi wyvern]

Snap!

[unborn mountain]

🤣🤣🤣 what a coincidence, I’m good dude, hearing whispers I’m about to play the MMO vertical slice

[quasi wyvern]

😂😂😂

After 23 years of being an Everquest loyalist I finally gave WoW a try...

That first Griffon flight to Ironforge, I had goosebumps... I can only imagine what it was like at release...

[unborn mountain]

Ha ha ha, welcome.

I’m playing TBC on Nightslayer Na

What server are you on? Classic Anniversary?

[quasi wyvern]

Yep, servers are pumping still...

About to get Burning Crusade...

Vertical Slice, looking it up now.

Love the art style...

[unborn mountain]

I was meaning Overworld MMO, but what server are you on for Burning Crusade?

[quasi wyvern]

Dreamscythe

I need to go read announcements and catch up...

Overworld MMO playtest, how exciting 🎉

[sage haven]

please stop at WotLK

[narrow creek]

Is this a Ai stock?

[hazy orchid]

Funny I was just doing this

[wide mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[maiden pivot]

Wait exposing your balls to the sun boosts testosterone. Is that legit?

[cloud marten]

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Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

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[analog crow]

I was always told my Red-hot baths were gonna kill my nuts. I'll be fuming if smacking them out to the sun is the real Alpha

[jagged onyx]

It's likely any sun exposure, boosting your vitamin D/hormone levels
I'd like to see how direct sunlight on your balls specifically would have any difference to, your back lets say, if anything, as your skin is more sensitive in that region, I would guess that it would increase your risk of skin cancer.
All in all, sounds like a load of bollocks to me, pun intended 😅 .

[azure cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-mom-its-ok-randy-marsh-south-park-just-gonna-get-a-little-bit-of-cancer-stan-radiation-gif-22089630

https://tenor.com/view/stangrabbeer-wtf-gif-5036902

[analog crow]

Not to mention, not worth the risk of getting caught with your pants down, Ball-gazing
pun intended 😏

[astral valley]

Its true 👍 😆

[narrow creek]

Yes sir don’t do it for too long

Guarantee you’ll feel like conquering something right after just don’t fall asleep under that sun lol. Don’t expose them boys for too long

Super hot in Australia do it. I can’t it’s -7 degrees where I’m at

[silent moth]

1939 science?!?

Seems risky

[narrow creek]

Some things never die. Like benefits of the sun. We need to get outside more

Sun is life

[silent moth]

I agree. But it’s a very old bit of research.

[sage haven]

Eggs and balls

[maiden pivot]

we had a few 40 deg days

[narrow creek]

Fine I’ll find something more up to date…

There are studies of doctor taking their patients outside and really improved with their healing.

[narrow creek]

Ser I tried asking you a question about Ai and robotics

[narrow creek]

Thought it was your summer 🤔

[silent moth]

Huevos

[maiden pivot]

40 celsius

[maiden pivot]

104 farenheight freedom units

[narrow creek]

Oh lmao

[quasi wyvern]

You should have seen my Sons face when I told him to start sunning his balls because I wanted a lot of grand kids...

[narrow creek]

lol

I’m glad I’m not alone in here. Starting to feel like the outcast. My family is always like “if it was true I’d be on the news” 💀😂

[sage haven]

they sell flashdisk. but sam altman is hoarding memory cards. good think i got 4 x 16gb

now it's very hard to find ssd and memory cards

[true tree]

This conversation on sunning your testicles is why I don't feel bad talking about chickens in Token Chat.🤣

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/connor-storrie-heated-rivalry-heated-rivalry-react-hr-ilya-rozanov-gif-17154118075693473490

[narrow creek]

First time trying some air chilled chicken

[narrow creek]

Ah so their stock did a 10x right?

I wish I never sold rocket lab stock. It did very well in 2025

That stock went from $7 to $88 less than a year

[sage haven]

Whats air chilled

[quasi wyvern]

Is Cameron Norrie still sponsored by Illuvium?

[narrow creek]

Have you ever noticed how most chicken at the store says water retention on the packaging

[true tree]

This is what I try to explain to people who come and ask why my ground beef costs more. It doesn't shrink in half when cooked.

[obsidian bronze]

I think a new momentum is needed to pump up the price. I think a new partnership with big company or new list on the Upbit would be good way to increase the price.

[narrow creek]

Beef at the stores are injected with water? Is it the same chlorinated water that they chill chicken with?

Air chilled chicken is like double the price lol but peace of mind knowing there is no chlorine in my chicken

[true tree]

It can be injected with a saline water.It is not universal but it is done. It is supposed to be labeled if done but I know people who work for some of the big names, and labeling isn't always the case.

[narrow creek]

Don’t buy any protein that has a QR code where the ingredients should be as well… just saying

https://tenor.com/view/just-think-about-it-marques-brownlee-i'm-just-saying-mkbhd-gif-14143028241686785294

[quasi wyvern]

Why I buy only direct from farms, we only buy non perishables from supermarkets.

[sage haven]

omfg so ive been eating chlorine??

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-crying-michael-scott-sad-upset-gif-9816214

[sage haven]

LARP
but yea u will get ripped off trying to sell physical metal

even the spread is 3%, so u better hold it for long

[real python]

He guys do we have burn report for December 2025 ?

[molten otter]

Ilv only dump guys?

[quasi wyvern]

I thought only KFC washed their chicken in chlorine...

[sage haven]

goes sideways too

[sage haven]

finger lickin good

[hazy orchid]

lol

Just sent that to my buddy in same situation

I was sitting on 1000oz in July last year

Sold most too early but maybe not a bad thing lol

[hazy orchid]

At this point most ppl are up significantly so even 30% is whatever to some

[silent moth]

Not yet. My memory is that the reports are typically shared at the end of the next month. So maybe soon.

[narrow creek]

Well I understand why your name is Rich 💀

Send me a bitcoin, I’ll send you 2 back promise

[hazy orchid]

it was always meme silver reaching 500$

maybe not

lol

[sage haven]

Gold $5k before ETH

see how ethmaxi are hiding in their caves

[narrow creek]

Poor @hazy orchid 💔

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/damn-you-skeletor-gif-11747628

foiled again

[narrow creek]

Are you a lakers or clippers fan?

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/kobe-bryant-kobe-legendary-gif-26049590

[narrow creek]

Kobe is a goat. But current day I like Kawhi Leonard. Not a LeBron fan

[hazy orchid]

I dont like lebron either

never have

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-nba-lebron-james-crying-gif-20713220

[hazy orchid]

but ill tolerate him as a laker

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/teby-gif-25897488

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/kawhi-leonard-kawhi-laugh-laughing-gif-12572894

[quasi wyvern]

As much as I bag AI, I'm finding myself talking to Grok more and more every day

We have new gods emerging...

[narrow creek]

Yep false gods

[sage haven]

how do you describe a true god

[narrow creek]

Well he ain’t AI…

[sage haven]

How do you know we are not a simulation

[spiral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-simon-cowell-americas-got-talent-all-stars-i-don't-know-idc-gif-3093477749712334814

[narrow creek]

Jag what do you believe in? Like what do you think happens to us when we d!e

[quasi wyvern]

American Gods is a really good series, they could almost shoot it again and add AI into the mix.

[sage haven]

lights off

[narrow creek]

Check out off topic lol.

[quasi wyvern]

YouTube is split down the middle at the moment, the old guard says the blow off top hasn't happened yet, its going to be late vs the top already happened, no bull run because of interest rates...

[narrow creek]

lol yeah… a lot of people think it’s over like jag and a lot of people think the bull run is just extended?

[sage haven]

2017 was blow off top
2021 was distribution
2025 was distribution

[narrow creek]

lol everyone gonna start buying the top

[sage haven]

the top that keep on topping

[sage haven]

US : we have stealth air force and nuclear powered submarines
India :

[inner quest]

https://tenor.com/view/ahem-shit-loser-seriously-gif-5731140

[molten otter]

Can i ask, dev selling ilv from treasury to cover dev cost now right?

[north tartan]

Soo is crypto over?

Will we dont evolve this tecnology for something useful and worthy in the future? 😔

[brazen void]

Crypto is over as long as Memes are in focus

[languid mulch]

what memes are in focus? Trump ended the memecoin era with his coin. Crypto won't do much until metals stop pumping.

[silent moth]

No. Not directly.

There have been some devs/team that have chosen to get paid in ILV tokens (been just about a year now). At least some that get paid in ILV have to use their income to pay for their personal expenses.

[narrow creek]

Their core strength tho

[sage haven]

cant quantum hack metals

Just bear market tho

some people believe there will be a rotation from metals to crypto somehow lmao

to digital gold

[narrow creek]

Why do you find this hard to believe

[sage haven]

Because spx is at ATH

crypto is not dumped because general risk off per se, it's dumped because investors lost confidence

why crypto bros believe that people need to buy magic internet money when real companies like nvda gave them more return? or tsla, appl which are building real products?
Or gold who outperformed stocks

when a glitch in a cex caused $19b liquidation on 10 october

it's not done because metals are pumping, that is copium

[sage haven]

bbbut payment rails
bbut tokenization
ddigital oil
Aaaaaaaarhh

[sage haven]

ETHmaxi in shambles

[astral valley]

quick question.... Are the Illuvium NFT's still going to be ERC20 tokens when they migrate to ZkEvm?

[astral valley]

the solution is use it to prop up and give quicksilver liquidity powers to charitable organizations.... Charity $ might save ETH and as well as some alt coins

[sage haven]

ethmaxi when gold is pausing

[vagrant osprey]

$5 ILV, is now a good time to buy?

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sonfys-shrek-gif-15350610703372212021

[north tartan]

You have a valid point, have you left the market?

[sage haven]

i still have a spot trade to be sold soon

but the chance of getting above 100k is getting lower each day

[gentle seal]

I just bought some I saw something good in YouTube the mmo might be dope

[sage haven]

ATL

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/yep-hank-hill-king-of-the-hill-revival-yeah-yes-gif-4995677298715393073

[sage haven]

Where is the rotation-from-gold folks at

...at the supercycle convention

[narrow creek]

Eggs, cod liver, and some sourdough on this red day

lol

[sage haven]

lol this after air fckin chilled chickens

gold up
btc dump

gold dump
btc dump

gold to btc rotationist 🧠

[narrow creek]

Panic sell everything

[sage haven]

capitulation

oh well

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[sage haven]

[narrow creek]

Rotate everything to ILV hmmm

[sage haven]

hype is strong

[narrow creek]

It sure is

[gentle seal]

We all waiting for crypto to turn it back.

[narrow creek]

Ser what are you doing to your cat

X is cracking me up today

[sage haven]

yea bear market can be boring

[true tree]

This is why everyone should have chickens. Market goes red but you still have eggs and something to look at other than charts.
Sell ETH buy chickens.

[narrow creek]

Will chickens make me rich

[wide mango]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sanders-colonel-kfc-indai-uWqlQcLQzWE7Kg3f8b

[quiet thorn]

We still have big support at 2.5

[sage haven]

do you wash the eggs before cracking them or you go yolo?

[north tartan]

Gold dropping also. What is the news?

[true tree]

Rinse before eating.

[sage haven]

stonk dump
Gold dump
Btc dump
Dxy flat
Where did money go

[true tree]

https://tenor.com/view/nachugo-nacho-gifolo-gifology-chicken-gif-10001124067812785841

[sage haven]

yes chicken

[true tree]

That's where my money went. My husband has complained more about the cost of eggs since getting chickens than when we bought them from someone else.

[sage haven]

When chicken etf

[true tree]

Now this is how we get rich...

[sage haven]

i eat 3 eggs and 500gr of chicken everyday

[true tree]

My husband eats 4 eggs every morning. I only have 3 chickens. His egg eating habit means I HAVE to get more chickens this spring.

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/no-chickens-derry-girls-gif-4108264151674898849

[narrow creek]

Enough said, full porting chickens

[narrow creek]

500 gr of chlorine

[sage haven]

lol went near my entry

[narrow creek]

This token really is going to zero lol

[sage haven]

was talking about my btc swing trade.
but yea crazy how it is closet to pre seed/seed price lol

[brazen void]

Screams like buying opportunity all over again for me

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-big-boss-big-boss-salute-mgs-snake-eater-gif-155838570054338632

[compact robin]

How many chickens for Lambo?

also what is the Yeild per chicken

[quasi wyvern]

We need a chicken coin, proceeds go to farming of free range chickens, yield is the eggs we sell...

[sage haven]

The future of finance:

[north shale]

https://tenor.com/view/prerich-pre-rich-rich-rich-man-ccidfuentes-gif-12082683519662598888

[true tree]

Where I am 40,000 chickens = 1 Lamborghini.

I have it figured out that I lose about $100/year on each chicken. Their bedding and treats costs are high. I will pretend their housing was free or I would have to add more to the losses.😂

If I sold a $100 support a chicken in a life of freedom and luxury NFT I could break even.😀

[sage haven]

wait so the chickens are net expense? Like a hobby?

[narrow creek]

Yes, this is what I tell myself and my family everyday. They’ll never get it

[narrow creek]

lol

[hazy orchid]

But lambos don’t poop out eggs

[true tree]

People who buy a small flock to feed eggs and/or meat to their family while giving the chickens a safe, good, free-range life are spending more than they would at the store. It is always cheaper to farm at a large scale than a small one. The ones who say they are not spending more are bad at math and not taking into consideration all costs.

[true tree]

Lambos also don't run up to greet you in the morning. My chickens make me smile and laugh far more than any lambo could.

[hazy orchid]

Ducks coming this month

gonna finish the Pato Palace today

or this weekend

[true tree]

Remember I need duck pictures.😍

[sage haven]

but why do you give them a good life only to eat their to-be-kids

[true tree]

Well, first I don't eat their to be kids, their eggs are unfertilized.
However, I did grow out both ducks, some roosters and cattle to eat so will answer the question. There is a massive difference between providing an animal a fantastic life that ends in a death as fast and painless as possible and keeping an animal in an environment that causes them days, months or years of physical and/or mental discomfort/pain. I believe that I have a moral responsibility to care for my animals and treat them well, even the ones whose lives are short. Everything that lives dies. I can at least give them a good life and death.

[narrow creek]

lol don’t listen to jag Torial

We all know you love your chickens and befriended your ducks.

And told some farmers to sell their cows for ILV 💀

[true tree]

It is a question I get asked numerous times a year.
I love my cows too. They are my favourites.
I didn't tell him to sell his cows for ILV, he told me he did!

[narrow creek]

We would all like to see ha

[narrow creek]

Jag tells people that cow farts are bad for the environment

https://tenor.com/view/special-ed-special-gif-14524557650897979460

[true tree]

Yes, we all know the cows are out to kill us.
😂

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/oasislabs-oasisnetwork-gif-18579109

[sage haven]

thats not a cow

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[sage haven]

dont u think animals who live a good life would want to keep on living, while animals who suffer would want to die sooner

[narrow creek]

Bull is a male cow lol

[sage haven]

and what is a female dog

[inner quest]

Would

[narrow creek]

HR 👀

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-12798360974943290422

[sage haven]

🤮

[narrow creek]

Get help Glower

[inner quest]

Guys on social media act like they only slam 10s. If you’re on here all the time predicting a .03% rise in ETH or whatever the hell I gotta wonder

[narrow creek]

lol what the

[inner quest]

I’m fine with a butterface. I’ll churn the butter into cream, fellas

[hazy orchid]

It’s pretty much done

[sage haven]

do u have eyes

[narrow creek]

Ser some of don’t smash everything we see.

[inner quest]

Jag, you’re furry. You’re eliminated. Adrian, I’ll listen to you. Carry on

[sage haven]

ill smash this badboi

[narrow creek]

Glower I’m gonna send you a gif just tell me yes or no

[inner quest]

Too much meat. Not Greta enough for me. Sorry Jag

[sage haven]

yea what soy do to a man

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/gorlock-gorlockthedestroyer-jabba-the-hutt-pretty-girl-optimus-prime-gif-15021847607777839017

[inner quest]

Dude come on. Butterface means mediocre face, decent body. That’s neither

[narrow creek]

Seed oils are bad

[hazy orchid]

This

[narrow creek]

Listen don’t mess with that man Jag. He won’t hesitate

[true tree]

Animals raised in conditions where they suffer usually do die sooner but they shouldn't have to live a life of suffereing even if short.

[sage haven]

I use bran

[hazy orchid]

This guy don’t miss

[narrow creek]

Hell shoot on the spot.

[sage haven]

well he miss the urinal

[hazy orchid]

Like he goes inside

[narrow creek]

Fine fine fine hold on dang time limit

[sage haven]

how can u eat them if u love them

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bosel-shuffle-gif-8771254945089113862

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/johnnysins-johnny-sins-betboo-betbootr-gif-24928670

[inner quest]

The woman? Given she’s in shape yea sure. What am I missing. Idk who these people are

[narrow creek]

Did you build yourself?

[narrow creek]

Yes the women. You don’t know who Bonnie blue is!?

[sage haven]

i cant imagine eating daisy the cow or felix the chicken

[inner quest]

Ohhh that chick. Na she’s foul. She looks older there. Not her looks, her actions are gross

[sage haven]

whoa thats sexist and ageist

[inner quest]

Yup

[narrow creek]

Of course I was talking about the girl. Wait hold up…

[sage haven]

please dnt disrespect bonnie

[narrow creek]

Was was glower thinking I was talking about the guy tho 🤔

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/ilya-rozanov-ilya-gif-9166435857625336382

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-surprise-mf-can't-prove-it-gif-7408854170742055240

Jag you made Torial upset

[sage haven]

What u hate ice hockey now?

[true tree]

That is another question I get a lot from people who have never been involved in raising animals.
We need to eat meat to be healthier. Understanding that I feel it is better to give an animal an amazing life and fast death to get the meat I require. Loving them is something that happens when you take care of them every day. It makes the day of death hard but it also makes me more appreciative I think.

Again Jag, everything that lives dies. It isn't somehow kinder to them to bury them than eat them.

[inner quest]

Because I thought you were going to throw a curveball. You did post that one chick

[narrow creek]

She has a demon in her head

[true tree]

Nah, Jag doesn't upset me at all. I love Jag.

[narrow creek]

You know plants die but no one is worried about the plants

[sage haven]

i dnt think i can kill mammals.
i cornered a rat once

[narrow creek]

Gotta love the vegans. If they only knew what it takes to grow their tofu.

[sage haven]

or avocados

i really want to meet those vegan interviewer on the street. i have so much thing to say

[narrow creek]

Ser the first one was a man that transitioned how dare you

[true tree]

Actually vegetarians kill more animals a year when you count in the "ugly" animals like rats, lizards etc.

[narrow creek]

They’ll just yell and throw stuff at you. They won’t ever listen

https://tenor.com/view/election-voting-vote-jazminantoinette-election-day-gif-26606994

[sage haven]

i mean why are they so upset.
being vegan clearly doesnt make them happy

[narrow creek]

Yep farmers have to kill everything in that field

[true tree]

It isn't supposed to be easy.

[narrow creek]

Yep gotta think about the other side. A lion or a polar bear would not hesitate to take us out ever lol

[hazy orchid]

yes

[true tree]

Sometimes on purpose and sometimes by accident.

Yeah, but we aren't animals.

Anyhow, I am supposed to be having lunch and trying to find Illuvials in the playtest.🤣

[azure cliff]

Hi token chat, what's the topic today? 👀

The market is bleeding, finally some volatility

[inner quest]

We need a Greta coin

[hazy orchid]

lol you see silver

looks like a meme coin going to 0

my buddy sent pics of him buying at 150$ an oz 2 days ago

[arctic vault]

We still have big support at 2.5

[north tartan]

Wow silver is dumping hard wtf.

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/bogdanoff-dump-it-stocks-crypto-gif-20477588

[spiral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/oof-meme-gif-25793745

[crisp bobcat]

now all those who bought became decade long bag holders

[azure cliff]

Kevin Warsh will become the new FED chair

Big QE incoming or not? 🤔

[narrow creek]

He will do whatever trump says

[azure cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/print-money-todd-cash-dollars-gif-1517652246103040892

https://tenor.com/view/trump-dance-trump-2024-trump-gif-12734161508561409577

[narrow creek]

But a lot of those Epstein files released today lol… there seems to be a big std problem and other things I won’t mention amongst the elites. Smh

[azure cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[sage haven]

i was reading it

[hazy orchid]

reading what

https://tenor.com/view/йокелемене-men-in-black-light-sunglasses-gif-15516530

[sage haven]

the epstein files

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/my-man-rick-and-morty-oh-yeah-mail-man-gif-16450197

[ornate crescent]

AMA WEAK! Fear Red Monday is acoming

[narrow creek]

Lower

[sage haven]

shutdown on a weekend?

[jagged fulcrum]

Nearly every coin looks like this.

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-cat-gif-27161395

[narrow creek]

Looks like a partial

[narrow creek]

Ser, why didnt you tell your friend that buying the top is not smart

[sage haven]

Buddy is exit liquidity

[ornate crescent]

17% in a week crashing through all time lows? Not in my bag

[hazy orchid]

Someone gotta buy the silver I’m selling amirite

[sage haven]

what do you expect, he called $16k eth

[ornate crescent]

wonder what the Mar 26 chart will say? Guess which chain is being simulated...

DeepMind's Frankenstein Quantum could probably melt EVM today. Glad we got the AWS rainbow unicorn consensus standing at the gates protecting my ILZ and sILV!

[tacit light]

I can't understand what's going on with the project? The asset's price is collapsing before my eyes. Will urgent action be taken to boost the coin's price?

[sage haven]

What kind of actions

[tacit light]

The project's creators must take action to prevent the coin from depreciating. I thought the coin would start to improve its market position in January.

[sage haven]

can you give an actionable example?

[tacit light]

Go to the exchange and check the price of the ILV coin.

[sage haven]

and then

[jagged fulcrum]

Its almost all gaming tokens/alts. You are framing it disingenuously and you know it.

[ornate crescent]

Perhaps to be fair, but I submit our three remaining IMC amigos that were "elected" should ask some hard Qs of AMA WEAK

[sage haven]

OKX is fudding binance

[jagged fulcrum]

The team could annouce a partnership with World Of Warcraft in this market and it wouldnt care. Ultimately the team need to focus on building and deploying products to generate revenue (this is the focus).

[sage haven]

wow. blame the market

[jagged fulcrum]

For token price here yes its an enormous contributing factor. I thought you were leaving this project to focus on your family Jag why do you remain here spending time trolling in Token?

[sage haven]

for the past 4 years btc went from $16k to $126k.
eth from $900 to $4900.
ilv from $120 to $16
within the same timeframe

you are arguing that the market condition is an enormous contributing factor, but why is it performing inversely to the market?

[sage haven]

see how easy it is to debunk egregious claim by merely presenting facts.
even the second sentence is a lie. my tweet is pretty clear.
i chose not to keep getting paid by the dao by wasting time arguing with someone like josh or paz who keep making false and non sensible claims. i have tried everything i can to save the project.
it's just not worth my time

[sage haven]

Capitulation candle

[brazen void]

Sell everything ?

[sage haven]

sell panic, buy euphoria

the metal sellers are finally rotating to sell btc

[earnest abyss]

According to you, should ILV sell everything and shut down? I can’t recall a single proposal from you to save the project. Now all I see is joy in your comments every time ILV drops

[tacit light]

I believe in the coin. Although I bought a huge amount of coins in January last year. Although it collapsed by 90% in a year. I believe the price will return to the listing price of $450

[sage haven]

you do know that the role of council is not to make proposal right?

[brazen void]

You should be happy to get new low entry points then if you believe it will eventually succeed with the project anyway. Why stress about it now

[quiet thorn]

Now the ilv price start looking interesting again

Is it time to buy?

[narrow creek]

I think lower

[tacit light]

🤘

[quiet thorn]

Can we risk it? What if we miss the boat

[real gorge]

Road to zero

[tawny kiln]

Well. 〽️ Well 🔻 Well ⬇️

[hazy orchid]

Welcome

[narrow creek]

Of course he comes back now lol

[jagged fulcrum]

Pretty hard to argue with someone who never spoke in council more than a handful of times and never brought anything to the table.

I spent my time on council pushing for things like the safety pool to ensure the project has the best chance of survival.

Something you voted against.

[wide mango]

lets just stop doing personal attacks please and go back to drawing some magic lines into some graphs to predict the future 🙂

[narrow creek]

Where’s linkky

Never forget his chart

[sage haven]

All you had was safety pool and LARP claim that you can get people from eth foundation to collab. Since the second safety pool was passed the token price went closer to seed price, thank you josh for tanking the token.

Spoke way more than you josh. I won 3 elections.

[wide mango]

last warning

[sage haven]

Hype is back above 30. Def a bear market buy

It is a good time to look for coins that show some strenght during weakness

[sage haven]

$3 was seed price.
$1 was pre seed.
I think those levels might have some support. Rare chance to get entry as low as VCs

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-trump-2024-maga-the-donald-donald-trump-gif-5733371666398431239

[spiral shadow]

I love those prices as long as the project survives

[narrow creek]

That’s the real question. Will ILV survive

[sage haven]

Why would it not survive?

[narrow creek]

Smh

[sage haven]

Yea he was closing his eth long

[sage haven]

problem with having large size on chain

ILV is down 70% since safety pool 2.0 was passed. It is inline with the dissatisfaction of some of the remaining investors who told me that the proposal would erase any hope of capital return.

to put in contrast RON and HYPE pumped during this downtun because add or have utility

[narrow creek]

Every time there are liquidations hype is making a lot money

[sage haven]

and the holders get a lot of money, it is called utility

[ornate crescent]

Loyal Landholders capitulated with a 2.0 pool and destroyed ILV market cap as I stated it would at the time. For what? Rounding error runway extension because we had no revenue strategy. Disastrous leadership decision, and even worse was the execution/communication.

[sage haven]

it started with the emergency proposal, which broke trust, and then the safety pool 2.0 to put the last nail.
investors confidence is all about trust. I hope the extension of the runway from is worth it

[sage haven]

if you feel bad about your portfolio, dont.
Tom lee the grifter is using people money to lose $5.5b

[jagged onyx]

Let's hope all of these treasury companies get wiped out this bear cycle.

[verbal cove]

don't you like the access for retail?

[sage haven]

downright skems raising that much money that late into the cycle

and tom lee has no shame keep calling for $16k eth

[jagged onyx]

I'm all for private ownership, so in an ideal world everyone would be able to purchase and store their own digital assets safely and not have to resort to buying into these ponzi schemes.

[sage haven]

oh tom lee has moved on to XLE lmao. Well played

[brazen void]

Your PFP is absolute fire 🔥

[sage haven]

thanks for the fee, plebs

[jagged fulcrum]

ILV token price has performed similarly to other gaming tokens AXS is the exception.

IMX essentially the same as ILV over 30d period.

The token price decline this month has nothing to do with the team or any proposal passed, suggesting otherwise is absurd.

[sage haven]

<@&795142782133207063> can i reply to this or ru gonna threaten to mute me again?

[verbal cove]

Private ownership is the ideal, sure. But expecting everyone to manage keys and back-ups today is unrealistic. Some people knowingly trade sovereignty for convenience and safety. Most things around the treasuries (hype, calls, etc) were not ideal but that's often how first iterations go...

[sage haven]

people can buy crypto ETFs, they dont need to buy treasury companies ponzi scheme

[jagged onyx]

Exactly.

[verbal cove]

ETFs don't have fancy hair like Tom Lee though, but yeah you're right. ETFs will never buy ILV though!

[narrow creek]

Why does he keep doing it. He’s down so much money

[verbal cove]

I've been praying for years that illuvium implements a ponzi scheme and get that sweet liquidity in

[narrow creek]

No don’t do it jag lol

[sage haven]

ur asking why a grifter is keep grifting?

because people who listen to him are dumb enough to give him more money. because he can

[narrow creek]

Why the heck would he be grifting with that much money doesn’t makes sense. That’s almost a billion lol

Are you saying that billion is what the people gave him lol

[sage haven]

madoff lost $65b
Adamn Neumann

enron
wirecard

all u need is a charismatic persona to get people to give you more money and keep selling the dream

[narrow creek]

Good oh Enron

I see what you are saying now.

[silent moth]

Borderline trolling the mods after being warned not to troll is a bold choice.

I will try to help you see it over the next few days. I’ll admit I’m not very hopeful. It seems like it’s too late.

[sage haven]

Can you please explain which part of my posting is trolling the mods? I asked a genuine question if I can response to josh without being threaten to be muted like spoon has done. Josh did personally attack me and he did not get a warning. Does this only apply to ex council member but not to council?
I am being courteous to have this conversation in the discord after Kieran personally asked me to stop.
Now I am politely asking the mods again if I can response to Josh, but if you prefer me to have this conversation on X or to a journalist from cointelegraph, I will excuse myself

[sage haven]

they can just let me be in discord and this doesnt have to go to X. i mean if we scroll up other people actually calling it to zero or worse. but it looks im once again being targeted. maybe because i do know the facts and what went behind the curtain.

[gusty light]

Sheesh first world problems with discord wars

[narrow creek]

Jag vs the world

[sage haven]

if only you know what i know lol

[narrow creek]

There are a lot of us in here that like you jag. Don’t get muted. Some things should be kept behind closed doors and shouldn’t be shared with us npcs lol

https://tenor.com/view/sxcd-faces-serious-gif-13728604

[sage haven]

one day they will ban me again. and i hope to see you reading my memoir titled : the [redacted] files

[sage haven]

crypto was better when he was in jail

[quiet thorn]

Is there any vid for mmo out yet?

[wide mango]

lol jag
you can reply to anyone you like
All i asked is people to stop personal attacks (not just you, everyone), which you ignored right away and proceeded... that's why i warned.

[wide mango]

some streamed some gameplay, for example sylen
#🎨〕community-content message
There should be more, can just look up most recent shares in there

[sage haven]

what is the point of wasting more money by pivoting if you are claiming that ILV has and will be following gaming token. why not just wait until gaming token do a run. that logic does not make sense.
AXS outperforms because they have a playerbase, their products work better than the rest. Blaming the market is an easy excuse for incompetence.

who is talking about this month price action? If you read slowly, i was comparing the price action of btc, eth and ILV from the bottom of 2022 to the top of 2025 which you conveniently ignored. And i also comment on the price action between when the safety pool 2.0 was passed in october 2025 to today, or 3 months ago, not this month. Misrepresenting my post is absurd.

since you mention the price action for the last 30D.
do me a favor, go to gaming category on cmc, filter 30d %, sort highest to lowest.
you can see that gaming had a mini run.
GUN +147%
CTA +136%
there are prob tens or even hundreds of gaming token that outperformed ILV and IMX.
see how it is convenient to search for gaming token who performs as bad as ILV to fit your bias?

[jagged fulcrum]

Most of the top market cap gamefi coins are down big on 30D you have a few that are not.

Top market cap coins are also ETH is down 21.7%, BTC 12.3% SOL 19.7%, ADA 19.7%, ZEC 42.3%, SUI 25.1%, HBAR 23.8%.

The whole market has been hammered, none of these coins have dropped due to actions taken by teams/updates over the last 30D we have seen massive liquidations across the crypto industry.

Your framing is disingenuous at best and at worst meaningfully misleading to push an Illuvium is dead narrative.

[sage haven]

You were comparing ILV with the gaming token, but since you did not know that gaming had a mini run led by AXS, now you are comparing it to the majors.
as i repeat again, i didnt say anything about the action by team/updates/proposal which cause the price action for the last 30D, you did.
there are tens or even a hundred of gaming token that outperformed ILV even if you sort by highest market cap.

How can i be disingenuous and misleading by quoting publicly available data?

if throwing slander at me is not considered a personal attack, then i got prove that mods have double standard

[jagged fulcrum]

AXS moved with changes to its AXS token rewards not many outside meaningfully moved.

You purposely frame ILV and actions Illuvium have taken to be the cause of its performance over this market wide sell off.

It's purposefully misleading and you know it.

[sage haven]

So you agree that changing the utility of a token can move a token?

when did i frame ILV and actions of illuvium to be the cause over this market wide sell off? Show me the post

[sterile ledge]

In my opinion, if we see any serious pump in ILV, it will be a marketing-driven pump when and if the MMO is fully ready and released to the mass market.
We all know that the strongest marketing for the game is a major ILV breakout, drawing significant attention to the project, just like in 2021.
This will be the final push. Whether it turns into sustained growth will then depend on the people who actually start playing the game.

[ornate crescent]

This is the date I DMed you, telling you how flawed ICCP-22 is on basic principles, and it would destroy ILV. We have wiped out 70% of the remaining MC post 10/10. You would think after 10/10, anyone with wisdom would put on pause ICCP-22 that understands capital. 80% of MC had already been destroyed of the ICO ILV value and then you lose another 70% of that in less than 120 days? This is world-class, horrific underperformance that everyone understood and rotated out of.

If the IMC had only moved the DAO's treasury into USDC, then measures like ICCP-22 and fuel emergency would have never triggered in your minds. Everyone knows 22, and EP-1 did NOTHING to help this DAO or the LAB runway because there are no FCF plans after 6 years of thinking about it.

[jagged fulcrum]

You can use the same date on most of the altcoin market and show similar performance give or take. This is nonsense, if you do this on PRIME token from your DM date its 77% down ETH is down 50.37% and SOL 52.63%.

[sage haven]

PRIME mcap is down 52% vs ILV's 70% within the same timeframe.
another attempt of gaslight with false data

[jagged fulcrum]

Token price from his DM date.

[sage haven]

if you can use eyes, his post is about mcap and the picture is mcap

[jagged fulcrum]

PRIME market cap is down 74% from his DM date. This is getting ridiculous 🤣 GLHF in here with this.

[sage haven]

he clearly said MC post 10/10.
and his chart is 10/10 to this date.

good edit trying to save face tho

i mean it's all good, people like to find the needle in the hay stack to back up their narrative

it's good if you dont see an issue with the price action

[jagged fulcrum]

Price action market wide sucks, that is an issue yes and ILV price does matter.

[sage haven]

some tokens suck less and some tokens suck more.
which one do you believe ILV is? suck less or suck more

[ornate crescent]

Pointing all of this at @jagged fulcrum is rediciulous...we all know where these decisions came from. Bottom line, the DAO's MC is in a blind trust with a single fiduciary that elects our "board" in the 30 mins of voting with a single wallet for the last two elections. Now that @sage haven @wide mango have resigned how about @jagged fulcrum and @daring parcel follow? At least Jag & Spoon were in the top five going into the final 30 minutes of voiting.

[sage haven]

i wouldnt expect anyone else will resign, where else you can get paid that much for the amount of hours you put in

[swift moon]

Of all the things to be nagging at Josh and the safety pool is ridiculous

[sage haven]

for me it's not worth the constant arguing between us. i mean i enjoy intelligent discussion, but this epoch was just me vs the other 3 people who cant be reasoned with.
it's $1.25k which is usually downed much more by the time we got paid lol

[ornate crescent]

The issue is not the safety pool. It's the breach of trust with Landholders and others by destroying your original agreement. This is most certainly part of the drawdown over that last 120 days…this was tiny holderbase before 10/10 it's all consolidated now.

[swift moon]

Give it a rest. The game generating near 0 revenue had a much bigger impact on that. And we can go down a long list before we even reach the safety pool, lol

[sage haven]

do you think taking away revdis, which for some people are the main utility of the token, helps with token price?
or would you think it hurts sentiment?

[swift moon]

Which revdis? 5 dollar every other month? I would say no one even noticed

[sage haven]

maybe for you, whales on the other hand

[silent moth]

There is something to be said for passive income.

[swift moon]

There is not enough meaningful revenue to make an impact. It's not the safety pools fault

[sage haven]

oh yea it's never because of what we do, it's just the world is against us

[silent moth]

I’m not inclined to say the world is neutral let alone positive

[swift moon]

It's very much because of what we do, I just find it very interesting from all the things to complain this one is chosen

[sage haven]

he was bragging about his second safety pool

[swift moon]

Well it's a good thing yes. The first one was as well. He can at least brag about something positive. You can do the same for your 3 epochs Jagins, the stage is yours

[sage haven]

nah i dont make things up when the chart is clearly saying the opposite

[swift moon]

Either trolling or some personal vendetta. On gaming I can understand you not having any logics, but on this you do

[sage haven]

what. ru still salty about the collection thing

[swift moon]

No, I don't understand how you would pin the token state to the safety pool, that's absurd

[sage haven]

i can explain it to you but i cannot understand it for you

[swift moon]

Good one Jagins, you got me with that one

[sage haven]

yea its pretty good

[swift moon]

For your trolling personal vendetta maybe, sure. It's very slimy how selective you are with criticism

[sage haven]

yea only things that dont make sense

[ornate crescent]

Concur on the 0 REV point. Not sure you understand mine…~$20-30M of unnecessary ILV MC drawdown is mine…nobody knows the real number, but the holderbase contracted massively since E11 election is obvious….capitulation has arrived. The same thinking/action that got us here is not going to us out…that is pure insanity.

[swift moon]

I don't agree that's the safety pools fault, it sounds stupid to me. There are things that had much bigger impact than that. Paying team salaries with the token? Raising funds for IPL which was out of time and place? Kieran moving the gaming tokens to the treasury, and thus reducing everyone elses revdis? That was widely supported by the community, what makes you think the safety pool had such a negative impact to that extend? I can go on with the list btw

[ornate crescent]

It was the last straw…all of your items served as the foundation

I know…I whipped the indepedent stake vote in E10-11. I knew it was the final line. Josh and Kierran were told in advance.

[swift moon]

And your champion Jaganite did what over the 3 epochs? Absolutely nothing

[jagged fulcrum]

This is where I completely disagree.

That loss in market cap and token price was due to wider market conditions.

Did some amount of people sell because of the proposal, impossible to tell and likely minimal IMO if they did.

[ornate crescent]

@sage haven IMO did what he could.

[ornate crescent]

Fair. I have presented my case. It is irreversible if Im right at this point of the road anyway.

[swift moon]

On which topics? Or some fantasies. On the ones visible for voting we can talk about it

[sage haven]

i repeat. i won 3 elections. cant say the same about u

[swift moon]

And yet we can't hear a single positive thing you did during those periods. We can have a good talk about the negatives. Ready?

[sage haven]

people need ears to hear

[swift moon]

Don't wanna bully you too much Jaga. But DAO is the governing body of the project so you being involved in it for so long makes you directly tied to the results. On top of memory - the airdrop was a total failure for the project and you pushed for it hard. You denied the collection based proposal twice. And did not steer anything in the right direction for the time being. I can be wrong, if you had some amazing ideas feel free to correct me

[sage haven]

you are pixels on my screen. idc about you

[swift moon]

Yep trolling others when you know otherwise gets you going but not so nice when in the spotlight

[sage haven]

i made money from the airdrop, what ru talking about man

[swift moon]

Isn't the point of being on council for the DAO to make money, not you? Or I'm mistaken

[analog crow]

Does something making individuals money, mean it was healthy for the project?

[sage haven]

we all did make money being in the council lol

[analog crow]

I am not agreeing nor disagreeing to be clear. Just doesn't seem like fundamentally that simple

[swift moon]

You mentioned the airdrop specifically, don't gaslight my friend

[sage haven]

the dao made some money, we had a couple of revdis

[sage haven]

well we stopped it after season 2

[swift moon]

Paid for it* through tanking the token price, which is what you are complaining about

[sage haven]

guess how they got the money to pay for the stables in the IPL?

[swift moon]

My point exactly. But if you think without the safety pool we would be making ath, go ahead

[sage haven]

ok tell me how are you going to generate $5m to fill it up. lets make a bet.
$10k in escrow. how many years do u need for it to be filled. 1 year, 2 years?

lets end this banter and put money on the line

[swift moon]

We can put money on the line that with or without safety pool 2 the results would be the same

[sage haven]

yea thats what i thought, talk only

[swift moon]

Isn't that your original point? Lol

[sage haven]

my argument is the only thing this gonna work if they raise more money, and they can raise money if token price is higher. but removing the utility of the token for second time breached investors confident.
why would i invest in a government bonds if they decide to remove the coupons

im sorry if you dont get it, i cant understand it for you

[swift moon]

And we couldn't raise because of the safety pool? Not because 100 other reasons? There were hardly any coupons prior to it to begin with

[sage haven]

tell me what is the utility of ILV token

[swift moon]

Yeah and it was non existent before that too

[sage haven]

what is the reason people staked ILV token

[jagged fulcrum]

The second Safety Pool went through governance and was voted through after positive feedback from the community.

The same as the first time. Had the reaction been more negative than positive it wouldn't have passed.

[sage haven]

the yield farming has ended. why would a sane investor stake ILV token. please tell me

stop deflecting. just simply answer. what is the utility of ILV token.

[swift moon]

Well there are shards now. But there wasn't much revdis before that either, that's a much bigger issue. At least now there would be a chance to finish the MMO

[sage haven]

tell us how much is in the revenue wallet. ill wait

[swift moon]

Make me a coffee first

[sage haven]

see how easy it is to debunk the non sensible with simple logic

[jagged fulcrum]

Many existing investors preferred to sacrifice a near term payday to give the project the best chance of extending runway and development during the harsh market conditions the market is in.

Not only does the additional capital in the pool extend runway but gives the team the ability to justify dev effort on new product launches due to knowing they get 100% of revenues from them.

This is why both proposals passed.

[swift moon]

You proved the point. No revenue no raise, safety pool or not

[sage haven]

"oh wow 150eth we saved while removing the only meaningful utility we have is def gonna give a chance to finish the mmo"

this $375K (1 month burn rate) is def gonna save the project

[swift moon]

Well it didn't hurt it, that's for sure

[sage haven]

chatgpt
imagine what would happen to a currency of a country if they remove the coupon from their government bonds

[swift moon]

We can also make a graph about your 3 epochs, tied directly to the token decline Jaga. Imagine that. That's why I don't know why you are so passionate about this

[sage haven]

chatgpt answers: it will definitely pump because all of the investors prefer to sacrifice near term promise.

[swift moon]

And before that was sunflowers and bees. 200 players and no revenue still. Cut the bs

[gusty light]

What are we arguing about? Token down due to DAO decision or because of the market?

[swift moon]

Only sane answer is both ⚖️

[sage haven]

for the past 4 years btc went from $16k to $126k.
eth from $900 to $4900.
ilv from $120 to $16
within the same timeframe
what would a sensible person make of this

[jagged fulcrum]

Gamefi underperformed majors as those are majors that got ETFs and institutional capital inflows.

Both also enjoyed DAT tailwinds.

Majority of alts underperformed BTC,ETH and SOL.

[sage haven]

if that is true then what's the point of keep hiring dev lol. just ride the wave

are you claiming that it does not matter what the team is doing?

$60m and you are saying that even if ILV is a blockbuster it still underperformed because gamefi underperformed?

[jagged fulcrum]

What factors can the team control? Broader market conditions they cannot but the team have continued to develop the games and build out the vision they had.

This is what they have done and continue to do along with input from investors via governance.

[sage haven]

they can make a better game that more people play for a start

[jagged fulcrum]

You know this is what they are trying to do.

[sage haven]

after $60m and 5 years have they succeeded?

[jagged fulcrum]

If you don't think illuvium will succeed or want it to.

Why remain in this discord honestly?

The team are building out the games to realise the vision.

[sage haven]

simple question, simple answer

see how people tend to deflect and avoid answering simple questions.

[silent moth]

It’s because it’s rhetoric.

[sage haven]

exactly. he knows. but he wont admit it.

because when people say it, it becomes real and it scares them

[silent moth]

As fun as it is to prove oneself to be right and others to be wrong, I am wondering if there was anything being said about future actions.

[jagged fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-gif-12211814638015427725

[sage haven]

prob not the best gif since what happened to him

[sage haven]

i strongly believe the only forward is to raise more money

[jagged fulcrum]

You also know this is obviously the plan.

[sage haven]

or try to be a web2 game

sandfall only needed $10m to make the most awarded game in history

[sage haven]

simple test. If you really believe in what you said is true, why dont you convince your office to invest $5 or $10m in ILV token. Or even personally invest $1m in ILV.

[earnest abyss]

Kieran blocked the equivalent, and about fully investing, he might be thinking it over but it doesn't stop being a risky bet, so the best is always going to be averaging in small amounts. Plus, the issue of how much you invest in something depends on your income, and everything carries risk. Lately you've been being Captain Obvious; I hope it's to get to something in the end.

[arctic vault]

@sage haven I find it funny to read these kinds of conversations. One person going against the system they’re part of.
But the most paradoxical thing is that the system doesn’t crush people like that.
It just shows the strength of spirit such people have.
I don’t care if many people hate you. That kind of straightforwardness deserves respect.

I agree with your point of view.

The only thing still keeping this ship afloat is the amazing community. From what I’ve seen, over 90% of this community are incredibly friendly and passionate people. That’s rare both in Web3 and in gaming in general. And I’m not just talking about the players, but also many of the team members.

Unfortunately, the number of people in both camps has dropped significantly. If Kieran lets the community continue to shrink (while telling us fairy-tale promises about hundreds of thousands of players), I think that will be the end.

But there’s still some hope. Only because of the community. Everything depends on them.

[coral meteor]

I'll do it since Josh chose to evade it. No they did not.

[coral meteor]

Some respect it, others will try and censor it

[analog crow]

The studio still has runway. Perhaps nothing has brought the results people wanted yet, but I'd say we are doing well to even still be an active studio when you compare it to almsot everything around us bar a few games

Optimism is a strength in it self; it's not always worth glooming until the end of days, and then popping up to say 'told ya so'

So sure, maybe it's not what people want, but we still have the chance to bring it to fruition. That's it's own success during a market that forced 98% of games to just shut shop

[narrow creek]

100+ messages 🤯

[azure cliff]

Genie 3 isn't good enough yet, I hope that it won't spook gaming investors too much

This kind of game generator will probably not be a real threat quality-wise for the next 18-24 months but since investors are forward thinking this could be a huge speculation threat to Illuvium

To be honest out of all the problems Illuvium had up to now this could be the biggest, if gaming investors think that video games' value will go to 0 because you can generate better, more personalized ones in 1 prompt and a few seconds then we will suffer the same fate as SaaS

I wonder if there's a narrative that would enable us to take advantage of it, turning a losing situation into a winning one 🤔

I guess it's not such a huge threat considering that we want to play popular games with other players and our own personalized ones will not offer this experience
Blockchain scarcity could also be a huge asset in a digital abundance world

[true tree]

Some of the largest companies at some point in their history almost went bankrupt. Resilience is often what determines success.

[maiden pivot]

gaming investors dont matter, gamers too

if u can fold revenue into buybacks, the investors component is irrelevant. Outside of a capital raise up until then.

But I'd say web 3 gaming investors are closer to gamers themselves, rather than the web 2 executives you are discussing

[sage haven]

what plan is this josh. is this the treasury swapping token into usdc?

[sage haven]

let me just put this here https://x.com/ValueSense_io/status/2017357388928500208?s=20

Value Sense (@ValueSense_io)

Gaming stocks went down big time after Google launched Project Genie.

Investors are worried gamedev will be the playfield of AI

$U -21%
$TTWO -9%
$RBLX -11%

X · Jan 30, 2026, 10:00 PM

[ornate crescent]

why not ask our paid ACTing 5 year CFO 😏 or is he above reproach to answer the DAO?

[azure cliff]

I think that most of our potential upside comes from speculation rather than direct revenues, even with a buy-back mechanism

We just need an altseason and to ride it well

[sage haven]

well.....what is the chance of having an altseason in the bear market

[azure cliff]

If Kevin Warsh cuts rates down to 1% or even 0% due to an emergency + prints a ton of money that goes directly to retail in the form of stimulus checks, I think that an altseason is on the table
Apparently there are even other ways to stimulate to crypto market like encouraging banks to buy crypto

If the dollar gets super weak at the same time it would push retail into financial nihilism, in other words they would gamble their money because they would think that it's the most efficient way for them to get rich in a world where working isn't rewarding anymore and AI is threatening their job

The R2E would come in nicely to offer them some hope

I'm suspecting Trump to play reverse psychology on Powell as he doesn't need rate cuts now, he needs rate cuts before the end of the year
Making him keep rates high while inflation is going down (0.86% according to truflation) and unemployment is going up forces Warsh to have an extra dovish stance to compensate for excess of hawkishness

He is also indirectly telling Warsh that if he doesn't pump the market he might get sued by the president

[sage haven]

so ur assuming money will flow into crypto that is in the bear market, instead of mag7 or metals?

why people want to speculate in magic internet money when silver, an important component in electric vehicles can give them better return?

There is not enough silver for the GPUs needed to power the AI revolution

There is no dev to pull the liquidity from the pool. There is no runway to worry about. Just insatiable demand of silver and palladium, but you are saying the first thing people are going to do is to buy alts that no one use?
make it make sense

[azure cliff]

Once smart investors know that a big QE is likely to come, they will probably buy risky assets like Bitcoin, Ethereum and Solana
Once retail get their stimulus checks they will see that cryptos are doing well due to the front-running smart investors and start speculating/gambling their money in the hope of making huge multipliers

A mere 2x potential isn't enough to satisfy poor retails who want to make it so they would probably prefer to buy super risky assets that can 100x in a month instead

[narrow creek]

74k bitcoin yeesh

[sage haven]

You do know that nvda and pltr made 28x right?
so ur saying retail who have heard both companies everyday for the past years and asked chatgpt how to make their toast will prefer alts than real company?

For a chance to get rug pulled by a 12 years old on pump fun?

Or even dumped by argentinian president or even POTUS?

[sage haven]

need to sweep to form local bottom

[azure cliff]

28x in years, retails prefer owning 10 000 000 "shares" of a shitcoin that could go to $1 in a few weeks rather than 2 shares of NVDA that could 2x in a year
In a QE environment they don't want to invest, they want to gamble
I wonder if they would want to invest in AI companies knowing that they are losing their jobs due to AIs

[sage haven]

yea they will gamble on AI and robotics startups

sure btc will do fine following its scheduled 4-years cycle. but theres just no incentive to gamble on alts when you have AI and robotics startups

and retail prefer kalshi or polymarket lol

do you think retail will prefer trading some random coins on some chain or guess who will win album of the year on a platform that is featured on the stock exchange

[sage haven]

do you think retail will prefer to study chart patterns and moving average indicators or guess that bad bunny will slay at the grammys

this is a wake up call for crypto

[maiden pivot]

that's true. But speculation on a game with revenue, is much better than one without.

(A game thats released at least.)

[azure cliff]

It's easier to gamble in crypto than to buy startup stock, you need to be an accredited investor to invest in private companies
Penny stocks aren't tradable 24/7 like crypto and the upside is lower than crypto microcaps

Polymarket is fun and would probably benefit from it a lot but so would crypto, in polymarket you want to be right and if you are you can do a 2x, in crypto you want to be rich and if you're right you can do a 100x

Retails don't need to study charts before investing, they go watch Scoriox drawing lines on a chart, they think "this guy seems to know what he is doing and he said that it could 100x" then they buy $ILV

[sage haven]

i guess someone need to watch silicon valley

the potential revenue before a company makes revenue is limitless

[sage haven]

these retail work 9 to 5, and do part time on the weekend. they dont need 24/7 market. Only degen traders do.
these retails saw on the news that the argentinian president rugged, ex mayor of nyc rugged, FTX, meanwhile they heard that AI, robotics and metals are the next big thing.

You can make so many bets on polymarket or kalshi that settle quickly. You do know that hitting a 100x on pumpfun is much harder than winning on poly. Here give me your proton wallet so i can check if you know what ur talking about trading memes.

lol check scoriox viewers. all crypto viewerships is down only. If retail dont study chart they will get dumped and swear to never comeback, they will warn their friends too but somehow u believe retail is coming. Ur the retail lol

[narrow creek]

What are there odds of bitcoin going back down to 35k lol

[sage haven]

my target is 35 - 50 k

[narrow creek]

Juicy

https://tenor.com/view/ready-im-ready-running-spongebob-squarepants-gif-4184916

[sage haven]

on the other hand Weekly RSI is pretty low, almost as low as 2022 low, so maybe we wont get the price that we want.
we'll see how it goes, level by level.
but you know starting to see signs of bottoming

potential weekly bullish divergence depending how this couple of weeks closing. Meanwhile
gold and silver are trading like memecoins

[narrow creek]

When in doubt eat some chicken

[sage haven]

daymn thats fckin sexy crust man

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-nod-agree-proud-jeremiah-johnson-gif-13827796

Stainless steel pan is my secret

[sage haven]

whats the oil

[narrow creek]

Pan set on medium, once hot I put in avocado oil. Then once I put the chicken in the pan I turn down the heat down to medium low. You know the crust is done when the chicken naturally releases. Finally getting it figured out

I know it’s ripping hot when I put a bit water in the pan and it just beads around

[sage haven]

interesting that it works with medium heat, im used to high heat to sear

do u think it can work with iron cast?

[narrow creek]

Well the chicken is raw it’s not reversed seared. If I threw it on the highest setting the chicken skin would get absolutely scorched. Chicken skin is brittle

[sage haven]

make sense

[narrow creek]

Hmmm. I’m sure it would never tried it

[sage haven]

also your chicken prob has more fat to render and the avocado is working great not to burn

i just assume american chicken is fatter like the people

[quick heron]

I think the high heat is necessary to get rid of the chlorine

[narrow creek]

Chickens don’t have that much fat on them like beef haha. Torial chickens might tho

[narrow creek]

Sir, you got to get air chilled.

[quick heron]

no I will keep just sweating

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/chicken-gif-7202518248086882735

[brazen void]

My wife would just need to see the mess around with oil everywhere and she'd have enough already

[narrow creek]

It’s not that bad lol. The crust is absolutely incredible

[sage haven]

you should see my kitchen when im cooking. i got all of the pans and tongs out

[brazen void]

Youre cleaning it yourself afterwards?

[sage haven]

aint got no time for that

[brazen void]

https://tenor.com/view/i-knew-it-kevin-hart-cold-as-balls-i-thought-so-told-you-so-gif-783190777754314962

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/justinpushplay-gif-21061408

[opaque scroll]

Going 3, going 2, going 1 soon

Good thing i have chicken and cow 🥰

[verbal cove]

Do we have someone like Adam Beck protecting us from going to zero with a buy order for the entire supply at 1$? Asking for a friend

[true tree]

Lady Eggatha prefers to be referred to as feathery not fat, thank you.

[ornate crescent]

The road from 0.034 BTC to 0.0001 BTC. No worries, the trend tells us nothing. Labs just needs to stay the course 😉

[azure cliff]

They talked about having an ILV price with way more decimals and a way higher supply of ILV so that we can buy let's say 1M of them and think something like "Imagine if it goes to $1"
This assumes a fork, I wonder if it's still on the table

[sage haven]

lol

[quick heron]

everybody excited for Illuvium Beyond Wave 5

[brazen void]

Titanor is coming 👌

[verbal cove]

im still recovering from the leviathan tournament in January

[narrow creek]

So… I take it you and your wife eat out more than you cook? Since you guys don’t like a little mess smh

https://tenor.com/view/youre-so-weak-weak-powerless-judging-despise-gif-15666774

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/bird-fat-chicken-gif-12989965

[brazen void]

Nope, I am cooking, just preferring to not fry things in a pan too often

[narrow creek]

I just used a little oil. Most of that is rendered fat. How do you normally cook?

[brazen void]

I usually have pans where I don’t really need to add oil at all or just very little so it doesn’t usually create a mess. And then we like pasta dishes or something from the oven like casseroles

[narrow creek]

What pans? Are they non-stick teflon

[fresh drum]

Is no one talking about the treasurey selling tokens ?

[quick heron]

No

Nobody in the chat here owns the token anymore tbh

[brazen void]

Why would you even be here in this chat if you don’t own the token

[quick heron]

For the cooking recipes you?

[brazen void]

For the token

[quick heron]

Seems like I am getting more out of this chat than you tbh

[brazen void]

Possibly

I am still adding to my stack on a daily basis though

[silent moth]

Data for those interested https://etherscan.io/address/0xba085e0a14801c8c7a919a90304e75cabb7e3917#tokentxns

That would be the ILV from past revdis

[fresh drum]

Thanks for clarifying @silent moth

[quick heron]

Wow that's commitment!

[ornate crescent]

PLS onvert the DAO's ETH to USDC. .eth is cooked!

[hazy orchid]

Thoughts?

https://tenor.com/view/mcdonalds-mcrib-mcrib-is-back-commercial-fast-food-gif-23826757

[quick heron]

Just watched the Risk to Earn Townhall. It was great to see Kieran with such a passion for gambling. This is the way forward

Illuvium Incinerator, Illuvium Deathmatch. This is great

[ornate crescent]

Precisely...SBF kept ETH relevant this cycle. (tongue and check)

[jagged fulcrum]

ETH is down 39% 90D, BTC is down 30% 90D, SOL is down 41% 90D everything is getting cooked.

[ornate crescent]

Not USDC! What if the DAO had its treasury in USDC the last 24mo? Worth asking the strategic err in not doing so. Regulators will ask the question if the Suits show up.

ETH & SOL better play ball together...the Banksters are coming.

[jagged fulcrum]

It has been? the treasury (runway) is in USDC.

The only ETH the DAO holds (for a period and then swapped) is in its revenue wallets.

[ornate crescent]

Good. Hopefully the policy has been longer than 120 days since when I checked out.

[jagged fulcrum]

It's been in place for years

[ornate crescent]

You guys make the most of the RTE...do not understand why our NBA arena capex could not be repurposed for cockfighting but that is just me

[jagged fulcrum]

If you have a good idea 💡 RE RTE please make an idea and put it forward.

[ornate crescent]

I have. King K tends to be partial to his ideas

[jagged fulcrum]

Do you have a link to your idea 🧵

[narrow creek]

So all in before April. Bet 🫡

[ornate crescent]

It was his idea or original brand "fight for ETH," he just never executed it.

UFC Illuvials with Kalshi betting pools. Set up an actual DEX and not some NFT store to facilitate the Illuvial swap markets. Then we have a prayer.

or just write down ~$50M investment in Arena....IMC E11 please bring sanity to this show.

[jagged fulcrum]

Mostly because of regulatory hurdles at the time and the requirements for a gambling licence.

[jagged fulcrum]

The RTE game uses our current assets and maps in a reimagined way.

It won't cost a lot of development time or capital unlike building a ground up RTE game.

The RTE game was presented to the IMC and agreed upon.

[ornate crescent]

Appreciate you pausing to supply a substantive response. Revisiting Leviathan and Ascendant has me puzzled. Esports paired with a UFC-style production & Kalshi pool gives hope. The stuff revealed this week seems like it does not even give us a fighting chance. A lite indie slot machine game repurposing maps in OW sounds like a tiny TAM and huge regulatory target if successful. Esports would be a HUGE market, with minimal regulatory risk.

@jagged fulcrum I like Asymetric bets, not Aspirational pet projects

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-really-o-rly-owl-gif-7905924

[hazy orchid]

So he was right then too?

Seems so

lol

How did you remember that

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/money-money-money-money-rain-money-please-gif-17552380

[silent moth]

McRib was pretty memorable. So I did a quick search in here.

[narrow creek]

I don’t understand why it’s a thing still. Imo it’s trash

[hazy orchid]

Literally just to pump markets

Buffet loves them

[narrow creek]

Yeah it keeps him alive

[true tree]

https://tenor.com/view/ronald-mcdonald-i'm-loving-it-mcdonalds-gif-10830457527919898768

I have never eaten a McRib but if it makes BTC go up then I love it.

[narrow creek]

It’s very messy

Falls apart everywhere.

Not a very good experience.

But if it’s needed for our bags then so be it. Keep bringing it back

[swift moon]

By not going to cost alot of development time and cost, what are the estimated numbers? 3-6 months? What do we hope to achieve with it as estimated goals?

Also, now that the collection proposal was passed as a gfp, which one will take development prio and how is that decision taken? Because from the communication around it, it was told there are no any resources left for anything other than the MMO?

[quick heron]

My guy, let them cook!

[swift moon]

Just 2 questions mate

[ornate crescent]

Vitalik finally stated the obvious that L2s do not make sense...cannot scale ETH (BTW Toly @SOL said this for years). Most L2s are stage zero of decentralization, meaning they are controlled by a single group of one validator or a couple of signatories. Sounds familiar?

[jagged fulcrum]

All the Ethereum community V included is saying is L2s need to evolve.

If L1 is scaling then the moat/pmf gap between Alt L1s and Ethereum L2s closes.

Ethereum L1 via Zk may go well north of 10k tps eroding the speed edge L2s or Alt L1s have.

Being a specialist chain like Aztec for privacy or Lighter for perps for example OR even a highly performant L2 like MegaETH or RISE.

Ultimately based sequenced L2s will be as close to Ethereum L1 as possible and thats what RISE is doing.

[ornate crescent]

Agree, and I am encouraged that V is advocating it. The L1 is up to 30 TPS and finally growing again. I think its good for the space.

[jagged fulcrum]

Disclosure I am an investor in RISE the L2.

[ornate crescent]

our aggregator info...shows positive for the base layer. But maybe to late if you look at the top line 😉

This ZK migration might prove worthless if ILV survives. IMX has its reasons.

My appeal is why having one or two signatories for the DAO good for decentralizaiton? Does this fit the .eth ethos?

[jagged fulcrum]

ZMevm migration is underway.

Also 30D ILV down 30.8% IMX down 36.7% SOL down 30.9%, ETH down 32%

[ornate crescent]

How do we get an elected IMC member as one of the signatories? What to rebuild trust in our DAO? This is the bedrock foundation to restore trust.

Why not get us a third-party audit? I would vote to cute one more art animation project or quest for an audit since we have not had one in 6 years.

[jagged fulcrum]

Make an idea thread 💡 get enough positive support on it to push it to council and then let it get voted on.

[ornate crescent]

🙂 leaving it to you guys. I did all of that with IP-64. Edited the Google Doc alongside half of the IMC at the time. Everyone loved it ,and it was obviously needed. Then Kieran stepped in and vetoed it , having the same IMC members who edited it vote against it. Probably cost King K millions in ILV MC as I know numerous Landholders that saw the writing on the wall.

I know how the inside baseball has been played since E9

[tired loom]

Are there instructions for moving ILV to version 3? I still have tokens in v1 and v2

[silent moth]

Pinned here #🥩〕staking message

[hazy orchid]

So McRibs?

[ornate crescent]

I'm Loving It!

@hazy orchid wouldn't you LOVE for our DAO to get its first audit in ~6 years?

[hazy orchid]

I mean it is a DAO

Thats why we have council I guess to do this stuff if you want

[ornate crescent]

lets help the council with a common sense idea (thumb up appreciated): https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1468649902794866978

If we get the thumbs, committed to letting Grok write us up the Barney of Basics Business Proposal

[astral valley]

@warped bridge In response to your comment in General Chat about Token Valuation: I believe it will if the game can get 100K sustained players for the forseeable future It most definitely will... Because the Value generation engine which they built is solid! It just needs that final ingredient to boost it, and WHEN, not IF.... WHEN, Illuvium gets that player population sustained. YES I see Valuation of things like the Governance token go up.

[narrow creek]

@sage haven 💀

[deep grove]

it's over Bitcoin will fall to 0 😂

[narrow creek]

Yep since Epstein is bitcoin apparently

[deep grove]

I'm more imagining 50% collapse in SP500, in this conditions. SP500 is still 6830$

[narrow creek]

Jeeze 50%

[tawny kiln]

Was off by one month.

3 digit February.

[harsh tree]

Atleast we have eachother

[verbal cove]

can't wait for kieran taking a small loan from his father and buying the entire $ILV supply

[silent moth]

😭 Eth outperforms sol in last month. lol data can be very much twisted by the spinner of yarns.

[brazen void]

I can’t resist adding new ILV to my stack either at these prices

[quick heron]

Anybody think its worth to set some buy orders at sub 1$ for ILV?

[quiet thorn]

Holy what a dump

[azure cliff]

We are approaching seed prices

It was $1 right?

[real atlas]

Imagine holding ILV since late 2021