💰〕token

[sage haven]

[opaque scroll]

Why still $15?

[sage haven]

accumulation

[opaque scroll]

When will we x2 or x3?

[sage haven]

im guessing in a few weeks

[arctic vault]

https://tenor.com/view/деловой-кумару-gif-14082511012181706202

[quiet thorn]

Soon we pump!

[inner quest]

People actually invest if they see a thot tell them to? That’s hilarious

[sage haven]

well, i did

[inner quest]

You would have bought regardless let’s be real

[sage haven]

yea lol imagine fading cz

[sage haven]

[north tartan]

Its over jag, gg 😅

[tawny kiln]

Do you all see now, the power of Snsi?

I can control price at will. A simple moonboi post, and we dump to hell. This. This is true power.

[sage haven]

some people might get spooked because this week is the 152 weeks from the bottom, which was the top of the last 2 cycles

[tawny kiln]

That was actually miscalculated BTW. The original author of that tweet says he messed up, and it's actually Oct. 24th or something.

[sage haven]

to maintain the 4 years cycle btc should top this month

[sage haven]

no. u can check it yourself. it has been on my chart for months

[tawny kiln]

I feel like in 2017 we topped in late November or December though. Feels so long ago.

[sage haven]

from halving to top is 75-78 weeks, we are at 76th weeks now

[sage haven]

yea
december 2017
november 2021
october 2025

[earnest abyss]

It wouldn’t be surprising to see a delay of about a year, precisely because of the postponed interest rate cuts caused by the irregular effects of the pandemic and its incredible impact on inflation.

[sage haven]

lets keep it simple. the beauty of the 4 years cycle

we had supercycle narrative last cycle too

[arctic vault]

Will BTC reach its peak within the next 14 days?

[sage haven]

nobody knows
but thats what the 4 years cycle suggests

peaking beyond october means the 4 years cycle is broken

if u look at Others
it peaked in Jan '18, a month after btc peaked
but last cycle it peaked with btc in nov 2021.
so we can go either way based on the previous 2 cycles.
so your statement is incorrect

it does look like alts move with btc this cycle too

https://x.com/deitaone/status/1975587486316568708?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

*Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone)

FED'S KASHKARI: THE DATA SENDING SOME STAGFLATION SIGNALS

X · Oct 7, 2025, 3:42 PM

i mean u dnt have to look at the data, you just need to go to the groceries or dining out. things are expensive af while people are struggling to look for jobs

but we gonna ride this train until the music stops

[grave plover]

Also stock market has been pumping but about 80% of all the gains from that are AI related. If that takes a dive we are all royally fucked

[gusty light]

Funny how easy sentiment changes

[stiff stratus]

The colour red makes the bull run..

That was my daily dose of useless quotes.. gn

[quiet thorn]

Shaking off the last weak hands

[verbal cove]

Planb told me no bear market before big pamp so we're good

[sage haven]

[iron pier]

Watching a video about call of duty and look who makes a surprise cameo appearance 🤣

Right under his face cam 🔎

[maiden pivot]

Hahahah thats awesome

[sage haven]

eventually growth normalize, competitors catching up

[inner quest]

The color green turns ya boy into Charlie Sheen

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-the-plate-gif-23335072

[sage haven]

2 days ago people were begging for lower entry. Today we are given better entry but the same people are calling for the bear market.

again

[maiden pivot]

They say women love a felon

[sage haven]

nah just a billionaire

[maiden pivot]

Is he not married? I just always assumed he was married?

[sage haven]

why is this relevant

[maiden pivot]

He doesn't seem to be like the cheating type.

[sage haven]

and bezos is

[wide mango]

i highly doubt big time has a big inspiration impact
would also doubt staking giving early access, since you want highly dedicated gamers for early accesses and not some token-fighters

[north tartan]

Inflow big yesterday 😎

[sage haven]

ilv? Where to see this

[sage haven]

Eth plan is 4600 to 4200-4300 then 5100-5300

[north tartan]

No eth/btc 😅

[jagged fulcrum]

Best site for tracking all ETH related flows is built by a friend of mine.

[sage haven]

eth looks ready

we might not get a deeper pullback

[past scroll]

SOON

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-love-you-guys-spider-man-peter-parker-tom-holland-andrew-garfield-gif-25180093

Soon

[sage haven]

Damn whats wrong with eth lol

[gusty light]

One more dump before the pump?

[sage haven]

sol has pumped leaving eth behind. bnb has blasted to the moon.
eth is suffering with massive erectile dysfunction

[gusty light]

Psychologically tough to understand right now that’s for sure

Our friend Ben Cowen still thinks BTC.D will have a strong rally

[sage haven]

what is his target?
Retest of 61.5%?

[gusty light]

Yeh something like that I had 61 in mind a while back but it doesn’t wanna even breach 60

Which is what makes me think it’s gonna do it at some point lol and do it aggressively

[sage haven]

Alts gonna get rekt real bad it that happen

[sage haven]

oof thats not good

[gusty light]

Yes

[earnest abyss]

Most people don’t care about decentralization, but rather about technological innovation. The only real purpose of decentralization is to shelter large amounts of money and billion-dollar contracts. However, for most people involved in cheap NFTs and gaming, centralization doesn’t really matter — and it seems that Solana is the most innovative when it comes to handling small-price transactions at large volumes. It also receives a lot of support from major investors. Solana has always made me uneasy, especially because I never invested in it.

[sage haven]

sensei never dissapoints as top signal

https://tenor.com/view/remember-remember-v-for-vendetta-happy-guy-fawkes-day-the5th-of-november-gif-12829141

*october

how is it possible that spx at 6800, gold at 4000
and eth is still at 4300

[gusty light]

no one knows my man.. all feels like the "calm" before the storm.. need more non believers

[sage haven]

missed my short entry by $40

[narrow creek]

What does this mean exactly? Bitcoin is going to drop 61.5%

[gusty light]

I encourage you to do some reading on bitcoin dominance

[narrow creek]

I have been studying as of late, then I’ll hear terms in this chat I haven’t come across lol

Like spot but you explained that to me well 👍🏾

[gusty light]

just dont listen to what anyone says about prices and future prices/targets is my advice (feel free to not listen to my advice either)

gotta learn the game and figure it out yourself, its your money on the line

[narrow creek]

Yes I know. Dont trust no one. Don’t listen to people that give insane price predictions.

[gusty light]

any price prediction*

[gusty light]

We are talking about bitcoin dominance value to be clear

[narrow creek]

Yes

[sage haven]

Btc.d is
bitcoin market cap divided by total crypto market cap.
if it increases, it suggests money is rotating to btc, vice versa.

other dominance to watch for
eth.d, sol.d, others.d
usdt.d + usdc.d.
this is important to see where money is flowing into

the main one to watch is btc.d and the stables dominance

from this list u can see that money is flowing to btc and stables

see how eth price is fcked? U can see the dominance dropped to confirm

ben cowen is predicting that btc.d will keep climbing before alt szn

[uncut silo]

Waiting btc trend line to be broken so we can go into climax run

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/licking-lips-dinosaur-dramatic-anime-evil-gif-27695803

[narrow creek]

@sage haven thanks 🫡

[narrow creek]

Very interesting

[sage haven]

first target hit

[sage haven]

this is good

[fervent sun]

ILV target this cycle ?

[narrow creek]

Ser we don’t give price predictions

[sage haven]

38 and 72 are good targets

[maiden pivot]

$3,000. Anything less is FUD.

Ban him

[quiet thorn]

According to my calculations, 3000 is a bit high for this year, but 1200 is very possible.

[sage haven]

sorry i dnt do drugs

[brazen void]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22986338

[steady wadi]

Volume 👀

[sage haven]

i guess people love MMO

[steady wadi]

Not related 🤣

[sage haven]

u hate the MMO??

[steady wadi]

Completely the opposit, i'm loving it and been waiting for it.

[sage haven]

When ILV angels

[brazen void]

This just means we go even higher once MMO gets released 👌

[sage haven]

cycle is over?

[narrow creek]

I’ll take that lol

Pumped

[sage haven]

there u go

[gusty light]

It went lower ser

[steady wadi]

🔴 ⬇️

Volatility will go ⬆️

VIX = Fear index is about to spike ⬆️

[sage haven]

oh well

[gusty light]

I agree

[sage haven]

4100 here is my invalidation, below that bad things happen

[gusty light]

Certainly interesting to observe

[sage haven]

we have been ranging betwen here and 4800 since august

and we have been trying to break this level since march 2024

so this is the most important level to defend

i think losing this and confirm opens up 2k which prob marks the end of the cycle

just a 4 years ranging lmao

[verbal cove]

How much time do we have left?

[narrow creek]

I’m gonna buy some more ILV f$&k it

[quiet thorn]

Up only lets gooo!

[runic pecan]

Ouch

[maiden pivot]

@sage haven found U an actual top signal.

https://x.com/piovincenzo_/status/1976673323460505637?s=19

Pio (@piovincenzo_)

"Asia Just Woke Up"

CRYPTO MUSIC VIDEO

X · Oct 10, 2025, 3:36 PM

[ionic marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/dump-btc-bitcoin-crypto-fud-gif-22345742

[sage haven]

Wtf

[ionic marsh]

amazing

[long bane]

What happened?

everything is falling

[runic pecan]

trump manipulating again

https://x.com/0x1az0/status/1976752945568854489/photo/1

az0 (@0x1az0)

@tier10k

X · Oct 10, 2025, 8:53 PM

[steady wadi]

Called it: #💰〕token message

[coral meteor]

Ripperoni

[sage haven]

redtober

[coral meteor]

Lucky me I don't have more savings so I didn't lose a dime

[hazy orchid]

What did you press @sage haven

Steady lads Deploying capital

Damn what a dip all the way to 102k

All longs eliminated

[dusty trout]

https://tenor.com/view/quadency-quad-squad-crypto-crypto-bear-market-crypto-market-crash-gif-10987240835534846621

[steady wadi]

That candle!!! 👀

[azure cliff]

Is that what we call a god candle? 😱

[steady wadi]

Yeah, but it'S went down.

It's mean we are going even lower

[west bridge]

lucky I wasnt in any longs or shorts at the time 😄 love a bit of market manipulation on a friday night

https://tenor.com/view/we'll-be-right-back-buzzr-fremantle-brb-one-sec-gif-11882550735893855128

[true tree]

https://tenor.com/view/abyssal-abyssal-roblox-roblox-tumble-we-do-a-bit-of-tumbling-gif-11274254947813146247

[harsh tree]

At least we have eachother😀

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/deargod-dear-god-gif-456465757630123626

[narrow creek]

@sage haven …. What the heck is this

[wide mango]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[shut lagoon]

Illiviumi couldn’t buy the dip

I saw ILV plummet to 6$ but the system was so overwhelmed that my orders weren’t filled. Did it happen to anyone else ?

[quiet thorn]

Little dump before the PUMP!

[shut lagoon]

I called it a “dip” but this was a total obliteration

[hazy orchid]

Sounds like a classic CEX

[steady wadi]

April 2026 will be something 👀 i'm probably writing this for nothing because of small memorie...

[shut lagoon]

Did anyone buy at these levels

[narrow creek]

Dang I missed out on the $6

[maiden pivot]

The opposite. U see that wick? Sometimes we revisit the lows of the wick, but it's overall a bottoming indicator

[steady wadi]

Yes we are going down.

[shut lagoon]

Couldn’t buy shit really, probably people who bought the lows will sell now so the market will go down for a retest

Wish I never got into crypto

[maiden pivot]

Retest could happen yep

[plush hornet]

I'm cancelling my psychiatrist as of today. You are my new one

[narrow creek]

Go pray to Jesus lucifer

[plush hornet]

If I can take something "good" from today is that we held like Spartans...... Big Time has been above us for Ages

[narrow creek]

Do we now? 🤔

[spiral shadow]

Wth happen today

[narrow creek]

100% Tariffs on China

[spiral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/kevin-hart-damn-woah-kevin-hart-gif-26425905

[narrow creek]

Just threats tho

💀

[hazy orchid]

Love Greg

[narrow creek]

Greg is a G

[narrow creek]

BRUH. This is no coincidence

[steady wadi]

...

What a beautifull word we are living in... full of justice

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-a-glock-kamala-harris-gif-6730769106004850190

Only trust God

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/everybody-has-a-plan-until-they-get-punched-in-the-mouth-mike-tyson-fight-back-be-ready-to-fight-gif-17750863

[narrow creek]

…

[sage haven]

9b in long liquidation

[narrow creek]

Yeah saw that. Wild.

[tawny kiln]

"Uptober"

[hazy orchid]

Why you remove the ‘e’?

In life remember the things that are important

[warm nebula]

What happened? 👀

At least I still got my nfts 😄

[magic cloud]

You can't sell them anyway 🤷. Its good to see valuation of nfts on beyondilluvitars.pro site and it slightly makes me happy for now but nothing else to cheer about in current market 🙁

[warm nebula]

Yah I changed my outlook with crypto last year. Doesn't matter to me which way it goes... just gonna enjoy Illuvium games and keep building stuff cuz it's fun.

But haven't seen a total move like today in quite a while.

[sage haven]

eth went to 3300 on bybit perps lmao

[gusty light]

Sir

[arctic vault]

BIG PUMP TODAY

[cursive basin]

Can you collect illuvials playing the game and storing them on your wallet yet?

[jagged fulcrum]

Its tariff capitulation ala April all over again. Some insane liquidations yday. Hope everyone is safu, this too shall pass.

[earnest abyss]

it's time to buy

[stiff stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/wallet-gif-25866507

[jagged fulcrum]

I exited some personal U.S equity positions recently so had some $ to BTFD.

[azure cliff]

Time to use tournament rewards to buy ILV 😎

[narrow creek]

Yesterday was a brutal day. So many horror stories on X.

[narrow creek]

Nice

[narrow creek]

Tell me I’m strong and I’ll be okay. 🥲

https://tenor.com/view/pablo-escobar-pablo-stan-twt-standing-grandpa-gif-15901735077073339091

[quasi wyvern]

I haven't read up...

[sage haven]

it was erick

[short flax]

Did someone know lmao ofc they knew

[analog crow]

Set 2 leak?! 👀

[maiden pivot]

Lmaoooo amazing

[west bridge]

Crash even picked up on voidzilla 🙈

[hazy orchid]

He really should release his own TCG. Would be fire. I’m gonna design this with ai

[hazy orchid]

Capo: #Market update

After reviewing everything, the picture is clearer.

What we witnessed was most likely the 'pre–Black Swan event', the first phase of something larger.

Altcoins have already seen historic capitulation, yet several majors still haven’t fully flushed. The wicks should eventually be filled, and lower levels may still be ahead. I wouldn’t even rule out moves below the current "Buy zone", depending on the scale of what comes next.

Bitcoin remains above $100k, far from the $60–70k area that would align with a complete correction. Until then, downside potential remains significant.

The traditional market is also showing structural cracks. Under certain conditions, those cracks could evolve into short-lived global disruptions that shake confidence in core systems, a reset before the next phase begins.

Once again, a brief consolidation over the weekend is likely, but more downside should follow next week as global markets reopen.

Have a good weekend.

[stiff stratus]

Thanks Obama?

[sage haven]

Capo is still waiting for 12k

[harsh tree]

isnt Capo the Cramer of crypto?

[verbal cove]

Capo is the only person who has been more wrong than sensei and that's an achievement

[harsh tree]

Lol

A bit harsh

[sage haven]

i guess someone got liquidated

[gusty light]

Now?

[sage haven]

lol i was making a snarky comment because dmtg was so harsh on sensei

[gusty light]

Oh ha, I was like woohoo some more action happening

[verbal cove]

I dont leverage trade, I just buy and hold till 0

[sage haven]

$6 was pretty close ser

[gusty light]

Little dump before the pump (in a bigger downtrend)

[wanton flax]

Please remember to round down too

[verbal cove]

I added some more to the bag at 10, easy short term 2x with arena 6.9 and mmo lite XL slice coming

[sage haven]

yea this correction could just be the 4th wave and we still have 1 more wave to the upside

[gusty light]

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/praying-just-and-merciful-god-help-me-christian-desperate-gif-19635281

[sage haven]

https://x.com/ElonTrades/status/1977340254047649966

ElonTrades (@ElonTrades)

The Oct 11 Crypto Crash — What Really Happened

TL;DR:

Roughly $60–90M of $USDe was dumped on Binance, along with $wBETH and $BNSOL, exploiting a pricing flaw that valued collateral using Binance’s own order-book data instead of external oracles.

That localized depeg triggered

X · Oct 12, 2025, 11:47 AM

[verbal cove]

I did put my money on more upside, this can't be it...right?

[sage haven]

well cowen has been right

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[narrow creek]

Yuh

[maiden pivot]

This is pretty interesting. So the Binance order books were weird. They told everyone they we weird, and then someone capitalised on it.

I wonder if Binance didn't mention the oracle stuff.

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-salute-gif-5537889238239041440

https://tenor.com/view/high-leverage-degen-trader-jayson-casper-gif-10267706994333069373

[maiden pivot]

https://x.com/RaoulGMI/status/1977140156386660654?s=19

Raoul Pal (@RaoulGMI)

No, it's not a bubble in tech stocks. We are less than 1 standard deviation from the trend. You can see what a bubble looks like in the late 1990's when we exploded out of the decade long log regression channel to be multiple SD's from trend.

Nothing to see, move on... 1/

X · Oct 11, 2025, 10:32 PM

Really interesting post. Recommend people try to ingest it. I learned a lot about the business cycle in general.

Don't need to take in the bull view side of things, but some great education here

[azure cliff]

I cannot say if it's a bubble from a financial perspective but from a tech perspective the amount of investments in big AI companies seems totally justified imo

I'm actually surprised that we are not above 1 SD in his model considering how mind-blowingly big the value that AI promises is

[sage haven]

i hope u didnt buy his newsletters

Spy almost doubled from 2022 low and we are not in a bubble

carried by mag7

earnings growth down from double digit to single digit while price keep making new ath not-a-bubble-phase

[gusty light]

Gonna be an amazing crash when it happens

[sage haven]

raoul also suggested that btc was following global m2 which has been proven wrong

[sage haven]

Talking about the tech bubble and ISM in the same breath is peak pseudo-macro analysis. the us gave up on manufacturing decades ago lmao. Most went to china. us "manufacturing" now is software. so weak ISM doesn’t contradict tech bubble

Imagine listening to someone whos using outdated indicator like PMI on us economy and charging $$$$ on his gpt newsletters

Claiming that the run is not even started yet is crazy. We are in late expansion phase in the business cycle

and since everyones long got wiped, we can have a crazy run now that no one can take profit 😂

[gusty light]

Yes

[maiden pivot]

Likely because of how concentrated the SPY is tbh.

[north tartan]

Crazy but realistic 😅

[sage haven]

thanks for saving our bags saylor

[gusty light]

https://tenor.com/view/russell-westbrook-westbrook-basketball-player-american-basketball-player-nba-gif-6454275910963113646

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/poor-man-gif-23343928

btc either we get a double bottom filling the wick or this is the start of the bear

[steady wadi]

🔴 Until Avril

[sage haven]

please explain yourself

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344

[quasi wyvern]

Can we invert the Y Axis on mouselook yet? New rewards program makes me want to try the game...

[jagged fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/avril-lavigne-에이브릴-라빈-gif-7558323830048710247

[north tartan]

How will the week end? 😅

[maiden pivot]

Lmaoooo

[sage haven]

on Sunday

[coral meteor]

is that game here in the room with us? i mean its not bad but cmon its not even close to mainstream wtf xD

[sage haven]

gauntlet

[coral meteor]

still infested with bugs, crashes, not even complete or polished. Its not even a finished product much less close to mainstream quality

[maiden pivot]

I get just as many crashes in tft as I do in gauntlet.

Defs unfinished product tho yeah, a few gaps in game systems to create a full experience

[coral meteor]

sure, that aside, tft mode was released with a HUGE background that was league of legends, same with dota Underlords. We got a trailer with 3 minutes of lore. Comparing illuvium to mainstream is delusional

[maiden pivot]

I don't think he was directly comparing it. Moreso saying that its getting closer every day 🙂

[sage haven]

https://x.com/lookonchain/status/1977917680691642742?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Lookonchain (@lookonchain)

The #BitcoinOG who shorted $BTC and $ETH before the crash — making over $160M — is adding to his $BTC short again!

Current position: 3,440 $BTC($392.67M)
Liquidation price: $128,030
https://t.co/rGmpJsvygx

X · Oct 14, 2025, 2:01 AM

https://tenor.com/view/disperse-lesley-nielsen-explosion-gif-13010485

[maiden pivot]

This is really unusual? Why wouldn't he make a new fresh wallet all over again?

I'm not saying a crash isn't coming, but he must be pretty confident to just use the same wallet again. My best guess would be he's betting on this wallet sparking fear and trying to leverage that downside instead.

[sage haven]

filling half of the wick is not that crazy

[tawny kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/ah-shit-here-we-go-again-ah-shit-cj-gta-gta-san-andreas-gif-13933485

ETH will never break 5K.

[sage haven]

$14m

[quasi wyvern]

Look at you...

I stopped all my bots, it was the right call...

Thank you 🫡

[sage haven]

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-affleck-thinking-thoughts-serious-hello-darkness-my-old-friend-gif-17677812

[west bridge]

US Gov moving monies around too. Get ready to buy the dip... 😄

[steady wadi]

I love the blockchain

[sage haven]

wait what
the orange man is betraying us?

[west bridge]

Definitely some manipulation happening today. would definitely get out of longs / shorts if in profit and wait 24 hours to see what happens in a few hours when the states wakes up

A lot of things looking bearish with things under 20/50 ema - could go either way

[sage haven]

oh they are just moving wallet to barron's

https://tenor.com/view/barron-trump-trump-son-trump-baron-trump-i-can't-hear-you-gif-5458235178671422778

[sage haven]

im still HTF bullish
and this correction is good
so not a bad spot to DCA

[quasi wyvern]

The wife and I are speaking with Grok and Chat GPT to do TA for us, deciding on which bots to fire back up and when

[sage haven]

is this grid bot?

grid bot is good for trending market, but it will get chopped up in choppy market

[quasi wyvern]

Yeah, I know you hate em. Was gonna try Martingale.

[sage haven]

i mean it's good as long as it works for you.

[gusty light]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[sage haven]

btc is at BMSB
Moment of truth

[gusty light]

quick deviation

[short flax]

Dont be silly, he would never!
Nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen.

[sage haven]

the whale is closing his shorts

[jagged fulcrum]

Papa Powell is saying they will likely end QT in the coming months.

[azure cliff]

And start QE? 👀

[tawny kiln]

Guys, how about we do this.
We all take our money...
Put it together in a "Token Chat Recovery Fund", and split the balance evenly amongst the 8 of us left in the server.

Then we buy a sharehouse and all live together talking crap to each other all day, but we truly love one another as brothers.

[sage haven]

stream it on pumpfun?

[tawny kiln]

Hell yeah. And we will make a coin for it. What should we name the show?
"FIGht4EeF."

[sage haven]

RektCity

[sage haven]

promising daily close
support is intact
if we dnt get a dump in a few days or we start getting good news and price reacting to it then we can finally see new ath
but if keep getting news and price action is muted means bull is over

[tawny kiln]

ETH no inflation adjusted ATH.
What bull?😂

[sage haven]

it doesnt mean havent been in a bull market if your alts dont perform, it just mean u picked the wrong alts and thats your fault

and it doesnt mean that the cycle need to be extended just because your alts are still low or making new ATL
the bagholders will keep holding through the end and unto the bear market just sticking their heads in the sand

[tawny kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-quiet-hush-silence-gif-19474264

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-try-not-to-laugh-speed-dont-laugh-gif-9393628858940137350

[sage haven]

and price is muted, not a good sign

[maiden pivot]

did he fart or something? What is that facial transition

[sage haven]

hes trying to hold a laugh when a kid said that their mom is kinda homeless

[past scroll]

it's too early to even talk about cycle extension lol.

[gusty light]

What if we are the end of the cycle though?

[sage haven]

People just need to see volume

[maiden pivot]

lmao

[sage haven]

market looks heavy
HTF btc is losing momentum

[steady wadi]

🔴

[light hull]

When revdis

[sage haven]

there is an active proposal to increase the safety pool by $5m

Btc is still ranging between 108k and 123k since july

[worn adder]

Is there alcoholics out there still willing to lock up that much money?

[sage haven]

never underestimate degens. altho most of them got wiped by the liquidation

[worn adder]

True. That’s why I’m only buying long term good bets right now and saving basically 100% of my extra job money

[sage haven]

what are you buying

where is tom lee when u need him

[worn adder]

I have 0 faith in trumps economy so basically nothing. On dips I buy a little btc, eth or solana but it’s like 1% of what I make in a month.

[sage haven]

oh just majors? so ur just hoarding cash?

[worn adder]

Pretty much but I’m also saving money in case we move and building homes so trying to keep extra cash in case either of those needs it. But even if I didn’t I think right now I feel better in a hysa compared to any alts. China trade war, shitty home policies, people being broke. Hopefully I’m wrong but feels like a risk off market. Even if stock market is nuts

[sage haven]

"retail is not here yet"
yea retail is buying the other gold

[sage haven]

[sage haven]

homes, plural

[west bridge]

guess they didn’t get consensus

[sage haven]

they said "immediately" but it was 22 mins later

[gusty light]

About a year in the crypto verse too

[sage haven]

watching. need to bounce soon

what we want is deviation and reclaim then continuation
fail to do that im certain that the top is in

[sage haven]

cmon btc

[narrow creek]

Buying F@rtcoin and ILV

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/kdrama-handshake-shaking-hands-gif-26102712

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-meme-funny-gif-15847690455777189602

Not unloading the whole bag. Just dcaing

[gusty light]

https://tenor.com/view/money-wallet-broke-gif-7855913

[narrow creek]

Dip is for buying

💀

[gusty light]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[sage haven]

107000 didnt hit but im packed.
the feds to bail regional banks
Trump to announce something
LFG

[sage haven]

https://x.com/watcherguru/status/1978820316513136670?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Watcher.Guru (@WatcherGuru)

JUST IN: 🇺🇸 Eric Trump says the Trump family has made more than $1 billion from crypto, FT reports.

X · Oct 16, 2025, 1:48 PM

People are extremely afraid but btc is still above 100k?

[sage haven]

good reaction so far

[gusty light]

One fiddy end of October

[sage haven]

omg btc

[gusty light]

150 usd (not 150,000)

[tawny kiln]

Kek. Yall should have listened to Snsi once again.

[gusty light]

I feel privileged to be in the screenshot

[quiet thorn]

We have big support at 10

[sage haven]

nothing much between here and 91k

[gusty light]

Excellent

[tawny kiln]

Now do you see it?
Left translated cycle.
No uptober, no blowoff December.

This was not a bull run.

[sage haven]

Fractal is saying the week of 6th october lol. 152 week from bottom

[gusty light]

sir.. start praying for btc first

[cursive basin]

Remember btc bottomed at 17k and has done almost a 10x already with no significant long term pulls backs, how much higher can it realistically go

[sage haven]

just one more pump i promise i will sell all this time

[errant fable]

Finish of the film

[verbal cove]

But you left us and jag filled the room. What were we supposed to do without guidance?

[tawny kiln]

when words fall on deaf ears, silence is the answer

[wide mango]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-jonas-really-deep-thats-really-deep-gif-12093936

[sage haven]

Welcome to the bear market

[arctic vault]

https://tenor.com/view/babybeaver-beaver-бобрик-бобр-упал-gif-25409099

[arctic vault]

https://tenor.com/view/lluvia-winnie-the-pooh-flood-gif-12094230

[sage haven]

https://x.com/treenewsfeed/status/1979143925668438348?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Tree News (@TreeNewsFeed)

[🌲] *TRUMP, ASKED IF HIGH CHINA TARIFFS WILL STAND: NO

X · Oct 17, 2025, 11:14 AM

[uncut silo]

Bull far from over - we can still pullback to 90k without killing the vibe

[sage haven]

1W 50ema is at 100k, we cant

[uncut silo]

Fib 1st stop from entire upward leg is so we can (actually even 85k)

[sage haven]

and that means weekly rsi is below 45

[uncut silo]

Its very common for BTC to bounce on .382 - until there bull aint over at all

[sage haven]

btc never close weekly candle below 50ema or 50sma this cycle

[uncut silo]

This cycle. Anyway, bull still intact until proven wrong

[sage haven]

look at the last cycle dec 2021.
it lost BMSB, touched the 0.382, then lost
50ema and 50sma, then went to 0.5fib
retest the BMSB, 50ema sma to confirm the bear market

[uncut silo]

Agree when it lost .382 - otherwise we bounced multiple times there

[sage haven]

look at this cycle's top

see the piranha?

[uncut silo]

So you re saying where are not going above 125k in the next 6 months? (Nice piranha btw)

[sage haven]

not saying that, i really hope we do go to 130k (so i can sell)
thanks my daughter said im quite the artist

[uncut silo]

Lets find out, Trump is long 1bio in crypto. No way the show is yet over

Im full bull until something really breaks in the economy. Too much growth still to be broken

[sage haven]

crazy how hes playing the market and bragging about it.
barron must have closed his 100x short before trump announced it

[uncut silo]

Insiders is real nowadays and nobody blinks

[sage haven]

i just hope retail who lined up at 6am to buy gold didnt go all in

[uncut silo]

🫣🫣🫣 hard way to learn

[sage haven]

yes lets get a second mortgage on a blow off top

[uncut silo]

Im long barrick and freeport, their balance sheets going to be so strong at this level

[sage haven]

mcmorran own a mountain lol

[uncut silo]

Yeah but thats called stupidity. Risk management is the 1st thing to learn. Not allowed to complain if u play casino

[sage haven]

i stopped telling my daughter not to do stupid stuff, theres only one way to find out

well shes wiser now (and full of bruises)

[uncut silo]

Hahaha

[fresh drum]

When the majority are fearful, I hope that's when the market will flip. I'll give it a week or two then we will know. My 2 cents 🙂

[hazy orchid]

Saw this and giggled was gonna share

[short flax]

frfr it’s like Pelosi trading on crack

[narrow creek]

Hail snsi

[narrow creek]

Eat well and drink a beer chat

[hazy orchid]

😂 happy dad isn’t terrible or great… I suggest belching beaver as the no carb/sugar alternative

[harsh tree]

What fish is this?salmon?

[past scroll]

then brace yourselves

[past scroll]

i will wait until that index reaches 5. but then it will be too late xD

[narrow creek]

Never heard of that lol. I’ll check it out

[narrow creek]

Yep! Wild caught salmon. Well that’s what it said at the store

[narrow creek]

Only sold in Cali 😒

[true tree]

I saw this on my phone outside earlier and I thought it was pizza with some sort of cheese sauce. I thought it looked delicious.🤣

[sage haven]

nice. thats a lot of salmon and butter?

[narrow creek]

So yeah 4 salmon sockeye filets (I was hungry lol) stainless steel pan… after salmon was done I deglazed the bottom of pan with tequila and used coconut cream to make a sauce

Usually use heavy cream a lot but I’m starting to use less of that. Dairy is not really that great for ya. Even tho it’s good

[sage haven]

if given, next pump is for exiting

[narrow creek]

Dang I’ve been hearing that a lot

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cooking-fries-ai-cat-mcdonald's-gif-15253947472684078251

[gusty light]

Must be right then, right? 😏

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-mcdonald's-mcdo-trump-at-mcdonalds-mcdonald's-drive-thru-gif-8948154395161681789

COOKED

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-finding-nemo-shark-shark-smell-blood-thats-good-gif-14607801

[narrow creek]

Starting to think linkky loves blood

[steady wadi]

$ILV about to retest $10.51 👀 and maybe $9.05

[sage haven]

https://x.com/bbands/status/1979592789081133118

John Bollinger (@bbands)

Potential 'W' bottoms in Bollinger Band terms in $ETHUSD and $SOLUSD, but not in $BTCUSD. Gonna be time to pay attention soon I think.

X · Oct 18, 2025, 4:57 PM

LFG my boiii bollingooooor

it's the 4H tf btw

[narrow creek]

100% win rate huh

[west bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-go-long-football-toss-spread-out-gif-24122015

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/barron-trump-barron-trump-told-you-told-ya-gif-16663307619233799782

[steady wadi]

🔴 https://tenor.com/view/popcorn-gif-21817364

[sage haven]

eth reclaims $4000:

[supple jackal]

ILV is 11,5, can i buy to investors hold 10,years

[sage haven]

yea. nfa

[supple jackal]

can i aske some things

[void fog]

What's that mate? you can ask

[sage haven]

the suspense.......

[gusty light]

“The weekly close is critical”

(Every weekly close has been critical since we became 2021 bagholders)

[sage haven]

that weekly close is pretty good, we closed above major support at 108.2k which suggests deviation below

but the more we test a support or resistant, the weaker it gets

naturally we should test 123k again

[gusty light]

Semi hoping gold has indeed topped just because metals traders are super arrogant right now

[quiet thorn]

Even cagy has finally see how good the game is!

[gusty light]

All the gaming content creators will pivot back once they realise they can make money creating content from it again

Oh he must be getting paid

[sage haven]

yea cant let my 70yo dad out trade me

[sage haven]

so my tweet is a legit question right?

cagy was fudding ilv and he sided with wagner during the debate

[gusty light]

He deffo getting paid lol - kinda off putting tbh, but I guess no one cares if there’s a net positive effect for bag holders

[sage haven]

i respect cagy because he is a successful web3 content creator. doesnt mean i want us to be associated with him tho

[gusty light]

Yep agreed there, he is opinionated and somewhat contradictory at the same time as obviously takes payment to preach certain things

Nobody will care as long as there is a net positive effect

[supple jackal]

Token ILV is good? Why ilv always down, and down to much?… ít’s real price?

[drifting crystal]

He isn’t getting paid. No idea why this is being pushed by a council member without internal inquiry first… He’s purely engagement farming and doing a good job at it.

[fathom cradle]

haha he just straight up made it up?

[drifting crystal]

Yes. But I personally think it’s all jokes. Happy that we’re back being talked about

[fathom cradle]

yea he seemed positive in general toward illuvium, so although a joke seems good attention

[fathom cradle]

purely out of curiosity, doesnt it seem kind of illegal to claim being an official ambassador of a company?

[verbal cove]

dang I thought we were paying council members to be a positive thing for us

[sage haven]

it's a question. i thought u teach english.

https://tenor.com/view/burned-food-wtf-gif-22978287

[sage haven]

the PA we are seeing rn is backed by capital inflows while degens were wiped.

[fathom cradle]

a question can state or confirm things to be fair haha

[sage haven]

a dog can be a sheep to be fair

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/alerrt-gif-24784922

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[steady wadi]

Just wait and watch!

[narrow creek]

Linkky favorite color is red

[maiden pivot]

KInd of his specialty. When rich nick ilv ambassador?

[maiden pivot]

An English speaker would use a question mark for a question, if u really wanna jump on semantics lmao.

It looks like this > ?

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-question-marks-what-excuse-me-huh-gif-19938846

[true tree]

You would think.
Might be some bad publicity if he turns on Illuvium...again... after this whole "I'm their ambassador" stint.

[maiden pivot]

Its only illegal if Illuvium takes legal action. If they don't mind it in this circumstance then there's nothing wrong with it.

Ultimately its up to the Illuvium admin team either way.

Point is that Kieran had a chat with Cagy before Cagy flipped bullish. I'd actually take a guess that maybe Cagy asked Kieran if he could make a post like this, and Kieran loves a quality meme so maybe he said, go nuts 😛

[fathom cradle]

yea i think its like 90% positive wouldnt suggest anything legal, was just more curious haha

[true tree]

Good to know he reached out. Time will tell how this goes down.

[maiden pivot]

Legal is just a state of mind. Its all about if someone is willing to take someone else to court.

[maiden pivot]

He said in previous tweets that he was willing to build bridges, and kieran commented saying he's down to chat. Cagy is very good at organising these sorts of convos and networking, so I have no doubt this is how it played out, even tho I speculating a bit.

[spiral shadow]

What was the tweet

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/table-mess-lmao-laugh-gif-5126644939264248578

[spiral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-dog-hug-dog-question-mark-dog-question-mark-gif-14144426802562365039

[sage haven]

No it's not. Wtf ru talking about. Not being charged or sued doesnt mean ur not doing something illegal lol. Using your logic, so underage is just a state of mind? Wtf scoriox

[maiden pivot]

Hahaha I'm not talking about all laws, just copyright based ones. Don't take things too seriously jag, u gotta chill out 😛

[maiden pivot]

Lol, Scoriox vs the AI, who will win.

I wasn't saying it wasn't a question, just commenting on the semantics of it all 🙂

[fathom cradle]

how lazy have we got to have AI arguing for us 😄

[narrow creek]

AI is going to destroy us all

https://tenor.com/view/robot-tech-skynet-ai-arnold-gif-13186419

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-terminator-robot-looking-flex-cool-robot-gif-16625083

[sage haven]

@grok explain this

[fathom cradle]

wonder if discord will ever intergrate AI like grok and x

[narrow creek]

Poor Scoriox. I usually put a question mark at the end of my questions.

[sage haven]

few discords im in are using AI bots to do this, maybe 3rd party. discord has so much data and much more "private"

[fathom cradle]

oh really like you can just ask it a question and answers similar to grok ect?

[sage haven]

u dnt even have to ask the bot directly. U can just post a question in a channel and the bot casually answer it like a random user would

[narrow creek]

Wow

[sage haven]

yea pretty impressive. i mean if u look at @aixbt on X it's definitely gonna replace scoriox

[unborn mountain]

👀

[sage haven]

and AI is good at replying comments which lead to better engagement rate.
like you can automate posts and pay to boost them but you also need to turn on the auto reply

High impression or view with low engagement gonna rekt the algo, thats pretty basic knowledge for anyone in charge of social media

and before you post u need to engage (like, comment) accounts who are followed by your target market

[narrow creek]

Isn’t @harsh tree a bot ? lol

[sage haven]

👀

[silent moth]

https://tenor.com/view/mother-robots-the-mitchells-vs-the-machines-gif-21445843

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/robotgirl-artificial-asco-tumblr-sophia-the-robot-gif-9734323

@fraggy

https://tenor.com/view/michaeljordan-crying-sad-pouroneout-gif-4986360

[narrow creek]

Jag is a bot.

Weird tho. For a bot he loves food

[sage haven]

food is just a state of mind.

[quiet thorn]

I think the PUMP will be very soon

[sage haven]

pump is just a state of mind.

[earnest abyss]

150 sure

[steady wadi]

I was just calling the coming red alert! 😜 🫣 🍂

[harsh tree]

👀

[livid shell]

Silv2 inactive?

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27586300

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

gold is red, while btc is green
it's risk on
wait for cpi to print lower, jpow dovish, trump to cancel tariff and we fly

oh and gov shutdown ends in 1-2 weeks. while btc hash is at ATH

[gusty light]

yes

the drop in GOLD is JUICY

[sage haven]

right when retail is lining up to buy gold at 6am the whales took profit lol

imagine some of that trillions rotating to btc

[gusty light]

Yes pls

[worn adder]

Has development on OW been basically halted? the roadmap for overworld all looks like the same stuff that's been there for over a year

[gusty light]

There is a fancy new trailer out

[worn adder]

more curious about stuff that adds value. I don't think people who didn't enjoy the game originally will be pulled in just because of more art

[gusty light]

Good thinking honestly - I don’t own any ILV. Kinda just intrigued how this all plays out

[waxen slate]

We're only adding in the roadmap what has been released, development for the current version of OW was halted in favor of OW: New Dawn which will be the Multiplayer MMO and take OW to a whole new level and it's very much in active development

[worn adder]

I sold like 90% of my ILV but I check in once in a while to see if the token is worth a buy at the price is it. So far nothing has made me want to buy. If it hits $1-2 I'll probably pick some up but rn overpriced imo.

[worn adder]

ahh any word on expected test release of MMO?

[waxen slate]

nothing to share on that front just yet

[gusty light]

Same boat as you on price

[verbal cove]

@quiet thorn roadmap update what do you think? big pump ahead?

[wide mango]

is there a way to check how much ILV a wallet is holding and or has staked on average?

[steady wadi]

Ho it will come in time.

https://tenor.com/view/patience-patience-little-dear-patience-my-dear-wonka-willy-wonka-gif-14144986164809211735

[quasi wyvern]

I'm happy Kieran got his MMO after all...

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/gross-disgusted-yuck-eww-seriously-gif-15885934

[steady wadi]

Manipulated reset will occur in the coming months, 👀 on April — prepare for some 🔴 but after that, going to be Hell of a 💚 run

[azure cliff]

Could you develop your thoughts? 👀

[steady wadi]

No...lol

Nothing to say... i can't see the futur 🫣 🤣 Time will tell

[maiden pivot]

Would you like an AI to replace me?

[sage haven]

April is the bear market of course it will reset lol

[steady wadi]

? No idea what your talking about.

Not try to prove anything here...

Time to stack up the $ and wait for the right time to buy

[sage haven]

im so confused with your cryptic message, can you talk normally?

i agree if you are suggesting to start scaling out of crypto

HTF trend shows exhaustion

[hazy orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-speak-spanish-enchufe-tv-no-hablo-espanol-no-hablo-el-lenguaje-i-dont-speak-the-language-gif-24377470

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/no-english-talking-on-the-phone-gif-10739828

[coral lake]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-burgondy-spanish-english-dontspeak-gif-5922973

[prime canopy]

you can use zerion for that
gives exact numbers

[wide mango]

thanks will have a look

[prime canopy]

that´s how I always checked how much luggis had left xd

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-gif-7523306793289960933

[gusty light]

It’s okay we have a good game

[prime canopy]

One day, looking for 2-3$ entry before though.

[gusty light]

Don’t give away alpha sir (same)

[steady wadi]

Hard reset will occur in time! We will get there
Decates of technology ahead....

[steady wadi]

Ho boy!

https://tenor.com/view/oh-boy-here-we-go-again-oh-dear-omg-alright-then-gif-20490490

🔻 👀 ouch, incoming!

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/pray-prayers-sign-of-the-cross-gif-15118101

[sage haven]

godamnit linkky

[narrow creek]

Dangit Tucker

[sage haven]

looks like PA is waiting for CPI and FOMC

[silent moth]

I’d think that much blood in the urine is a sign of poor kidney health

[sage haven]

beetroot?

[gusty light]

We need more non believers

[sage haven]

absolute perfection

[gusty light]

no doubt goes back up

[sage haven]

i dare u

[gusty light]

yes

[short flax]

Nothing bad can happen. Only good happen.

[sage haven]

im tired of winning

[dreamy walrus]

Where are my staking rewards?

[sage haven]

Yield farming has ended long time ago

[dreamy walrus]

I didn’t pay attention at the time, so how do I unlock the tokens I have locked now?

[dreamy walrus]

I still have about 83 ILVs in the pledged state. How can I unlock them?

[sage haven]

U can unstake them

#🥩〕staking message

[brazen void]

You might wanna wait to see what staking v3 is gonna bring. Apparently long term stakers are more rewarded. It was supposed to be announced within this month still.
NFA

[sage haven]

CT : Liquidity is drying up
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X · Oct 24, 2025, 1:10 AM

[arctic vault]

6986% left to go in 69 days.

[sage haven]

CPI print lower ✅
Jpow dovish
Trump cancel tariff
Gov shutdown ends

[verbal cove]

let's fly

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmm-gif-6596276820749982574

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/seriously-well-ok-then-eyebrows-raise-oh-really-is-that-true-gif-17186207

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/jason-momoa-chair-popcorn-time-ready-to-party-dis-gon-be-good-gif-24174564

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/as-gif-25572579

[jagged fulcrum]

CPI looks a whole lot better X shelter.

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/stupidme-whyi-why-you-hurt-gif-26181664

S&P grinding higher
Gold blow off top
Meanwhile crypto.....

[sage haven]

neva gonna delet this app

[steady wadi]

ILV 1 min chart: 👀

[gusty light]

gud game

[sage haven]

i love ownership

[gusty light]

as long as game is gud price doesn't matter

[sage haven]

crypti is da futurr

Feels like price is being suppressed, manipulated for a big move that is coming. Which way?

[gusty light]

big move is going up, but i feel you on suppression.. i was trading ES futures earlier, they were hot - equities been killing it fortunately

[sage haven]

i dont blame them, degens were wiped by the recent liquidation. perps was leading the way

[gusty light]

my dumb theory is big players just tryna make more bullievers exit then pump it up and make em buy later

[earnest abyss]

When they put Trump’s bootlicker in place in May and replace Jerome Powell, the market will go out of control to the upside. But before that, the whales want to own as much as they can — and as always, they crash the whole market first.

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[short flax]

Found answer elsewhere

[inner quest]

Colin Powell isn’t going to launch his own coin though bro

[sage haven]

so ur saying we are in a bear market?

[earnest abyss]

we will be soon. One short

[sage haven]

wht do you think about "alts szn"

[earnest abyss]

Ethereum could only recover, it hasn't gone to the moon yet, there definitely haven't been any alts yet.

[gusty light]

We need more non believers

[sage haven]

do you believe we gonna have one after what we have seen this cycle

[gusty light]

Ben cowen gonna be wrong this time (and ETH will go much much higher than he thinks)

[sage haven]

he called eth was gonna test its BMSB at 3600 and we went below. very hard to fade him. He has been pretty accurate this cycle

[earnest abyss]

Good question. I think it’s definitely more likely that we’ll keep going down nonstop for 2 years, but the possibility of a rebound in 2026 — and considering that I’m just holding — makes it worth continuing to buy rather than staying still and missing out on the massive rally in 2026. It’s possible that COVID slowed down the cycles because the inflation it caused was absolutely insane.

[gusty light]

Yup I’ll add a 1.5x on top of his calls

[sage haven]

what are we gonna do for 2 years

[sage haven]

7800?

[earnest abyss]

Sell BTC, buy ilv

[gusty light]

Something like that

[sage haven]

sell btc?

[earnest abyss]

Yes, you say that BTC will go down. So why hold it?

[sage haven]

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/trump-trump-2024-maga-the-donald-donald-trump-gif-5733371666398431239

[quiet thorn]

Soon we pump!

[narrow creek]

Hello my therapist

[narrow creek]

Jag I want my 10k back

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-spill-chili-pot-kevin-malone-gif-3915565

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-leaving-turning-around-no-gif-13061064

see the time the sauce dropped "before the event"

[narrow creek]

LINKKY

Linkky loves red

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/quite-the-opposite-william-abadie-antoine-lambert-emily-in-paris-on-contrary-gif-18898941

2026 will be greener

[narrow creek]

Looks like it

[steady wadi]

will probably be the a new "Alt season" as well with a lot of new capital comming into crypto, we are in a technology cycle 🚀 🟢

[sage haven]

imagine the whole crypto market is praying for 2026 bull run alt szn because the 4-years cycle doesnt live up to their expectation even tho btc went up from $15K to $124K only to get the scheduled bear market

[gusty light]

No one got a clue is the conclusion

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/nancy-gif-24474595

[sage haven]

pelosi knows

[ornate crescent]

BTC @ $111,500. The previous cycle's all-time high for Bitcoin was in November 2022, and compared to the current price today, divided by M2, then Bitcoin is only up 58% in four years. This is a compound annual growth rate of 12%. Hoping we have more runway left in this cycle. By the way, ETH would have been a HORRIBLE risk-adjusted investment for over 36 months now after accounting for M2 expansion. Hope is not a strategy.

[sage haven]

just have to compare it with gold

[brazen void]

https://tenor.com/view/liftoff-moon-rocket-blastoff-launch-gif-22437697

[steady wadi]

Staking V3 more info soon!?

[brazen void]

I hope long term stakers benefit from it. My stakes are in there since 3 years or more

[steady wadi]

yes, it's has been mentionned but only mentionned no details.

[steady wadi]

$15 ILV 👀 ,
$24.55

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-hurry-impatient-gif-22696825

[sage haven]

CPI print lower ✅
Jpow dovish
Trump cancel tariff ✅
Gov shutdown ends

[maiden pivot]

I do wonder how the gov shutdown resolves. I doubt Trump would concede the healthcare stuff. Do Dems eventually give up on it? They are generally more obsssessed with their own paycheck so they'd be the first to fold surely?

[narrow creek]

Just wait… more tariff threats coming soon

[sage haven]

only people who are dumb enough to have most in shtcoins had 50% dip

[real python]

Guys do anyone have burn report for September 2025 ?

[gusty light]

Majority of CT

[sage haven]

not yet

[sage haven]

they listened to becker and tom lee

[gusty light]

Yup, well actually. CT listened to whatever CT was saying as if it was indeed a financial advisor.

Majority of token holders don’t even interact with the “product” they have “invested” in 😂

[sage haven]

well yea, coins mostly move because of the narrative

[sage haven]

linkky in shambles

[gusty light]

No one got a clue (in a friendly manner of course)

[sage haven]

what do u mean by "no one" ?

[gusty light]

If I may, I should make it clear (which I didn’t do before), anyone speaking in absolute terms (that’s not you as you show possibilities)

[sage haven]

that is a fair take. we are trading possibilities

[gusty light]

Yessir. Anyone saying x is going to happen for sure is just hoping it’s going to happen imo lol

[sage haven]

haha yes hopium

[sage haven]

i think my favorite hopium is when they are praying for an extended run because the market hasnt pumped high enough and we are running out of time

[frank elm]

at this point im already focused on the next cycle

[gusty light]

Reminds of those calling for an alt seasons since October 2022

I still believe it happens dno when but feels likely soon

[frank elm]

it probably still happens but maybe in 2027 or later lol. at least we kept alt valuations low enough to have a good run for the next cycle!

[sage haven]

i think we gonna have not-your-alts season

[frank elm]

are you ben cowen

[sage haven]

i have hair

[frank elm]

my honest thoughts tho : trump admin caused too much uncertainty for an alt cycle this time. eventually this new US shift will bring the biggest round of money printing ever seen to fuel war and economic craziness which is when we will finally see maybe the last ever good market pump lol

[narrow creek]

I bet before midterms we will be pumping. Got to makes things look good

[earnest abyss]

Me too

[earnest abyss]

Exactly, money free for all

[narrow creek]

I just want everything cheap again. lol I miss the dollar menu

Just think about it… The dollar menu dictated how cheap things were. Gas was under $2, groceries were much cheaper. Now when I go to the store I have to tell myself, “is it worth it” 💀

Rant over

[sage haven]

well u can always pay it later

[sage haven]

🎯

[sage haven]

someone need to save this

[junior rampart]

When can we start staking tokens?

[sage haven]

lets get that retrace

[sage haven]

ethmaxi: treasuries are buying billions of ETH
treasuries:
https://x.com/Cointelegraph/status/1983046154548855060

Cointelegraph (@Cointelegraph)

More details:
https://t.co/SnwcKSzAXA

X · Oct 28, 2025, 5:40 AM

imagine fading logic, anon

[gusty light]

Imagine if they start selling loool

[sage haven]

i mean u can just see that long term holders are distributing
and there is no perps holding price up like it used to be

[sage haven]

im pretty sure they will capitulate

[steady wadi]

We don't have any date yet but in the coming Town Hall with Kieran Warwick co-founder. he's supposed to discuss about it has we can see it's part of one of the points topic points.
If you have any questions you can fill the google form or the discord thread. https://discord.com/events/760344898200666112/1430883634004623410

Google form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXXtQa8KDU2f965jKk5PREqRO_aFrwzJkRDsFwfuiHSmmQ6w/viewform?usp=dialog
Discord: #1430902521605521499 message

[gusty light]

yep, noobs (probs marks a local bottom if happens soon)

[sage haven]

prob need the bear to do that

[earnest abyss]

He who averages the price is not worried about that.

[sage haven]

the problem is mnav. look at how muted saylor is rn

https://x.com/cointelegraph/status/1982938436211265577?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Cointelegraph (@Cointelegraph)

🚨 ALERT: ETHZilla sold $40M in Ethereum to fund $12M in stock buybacks.

X · Oct 27, 2025, 10:32 PM

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[narrow creek]

What the…

[sage haven]

inverse treasury

[sage haven]

look at this whale

[past scroll]

which website is that one?

[sage haven]

hypurrscan

[spiral shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/green-candle-walk-up-green-walk-ber-bersolcoin-gif-2939807623839751981

[narrow creek]

Rate cuts incoming

When will people LEARN

[azure cliff]

They probably do but their lessons are expensive

[sage haven]

guys i called it, not sure why ur surprised

https://x.com/brycent_/status/1983194456582168760?s=46&t=-UbHGHoHpEdU8K3dt_g8mA

Brycent (@brycent_)

The sunset of my era in "gaming" 🌆

We shut down the gaming discord. It was seriously an awesome run, and the last four years of gaming was insane.

But the path I am on now is where my heart is. More Startup and VC content!

X · Oct 28, 2025, 3:29 PM

[sage haven]

sol looks stronger than eth here

[sage haven]

the treasuries worshipper has been quiet lately

[gusty light]

They’ll come back when we hit euphoria (like the proper one)

[sage haven]

i prefer a dump pre fomc, so jpow can be dovish

[gusty light]

likewise.. equities running hot still however..

[steady wadi]

September 2025 - ILV Burn Report

[jagged fulcrum]

Hedge selling on crypto imo. Equities running hot because many are under allocated.

Retail out performed hedge funds and money managers largely selling into the Tariff capitulation and expecting recession fallout.

Retail positioning shows selling and big boys stepping in.

Market doesn't look stretched from a positioning standpoint.

Inflation looks to show progress next print and U.S trade tensions are easing.

Good tailwinds with FED cutting however Powell could still put a dampener on things with some hawkish rhetoric.

[gusty light]

fwiw - I am incredibly bullish we gonna go higher over time, just going to suffer from chop for the time being

[jagged fulcrum]

Tradfi due a pullback but I doubt it will be deep because it will be bought.

[sage haven]

https://x.com/Barchart/status/1983336913533841474
it's just frontrunning tech earnings and dovish powell while the rest of tradfi is down

Barchart (@Barchart)

Almost 80% of S&P 500 stocks declined today, which is the worst day of market breadth ever recorded, while the $SPX was making new all-time highs 🚨🚨

X · Oct 29, 2025, 12:55 AM

crypto is getting sold off because long term holders sold while the treasury companies are regretting their decision to ape this late into the cycle after seeing how broken crypto market is amid the biggest liquidation event since Covid, LUNA, FTX

most of the move up was driven by perps, while inflow to btc was slow, perps were liquidated

[sage haven]

i hope tradfi doesnt sell the news too bad tomorrow

[steady wadi]

👀 $ILV now: $11.30

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-steve-carrell-unamused-meh-gif-5167530

[true tree]

One last dip.
Feds going to have to start pumping money.

[arctic vault]

https://tenor.com/view/i-hope-jaelyn-alicia-silverstone-the-requin-hope-so-gif-25083242

[steady wadi]

🟢

[gusty light]

It’s really that easy huh?

[sage haven]

OGs need to stop selling

[narrow creek]

Don’t tease me

[silent moth]

September 2025 Burn Report

[true tree]

Time will tell.

[true tree]

Or new people come in. Or OGs buy under a new banner.

[true tree]

OK.
I will go back to being a silent lurker again.

[maiden pivot]

I don't personally believe in treasury companies 'regretting' anything. When you have that much money u just use your infinite money glitch to buy more, drive up the price and guarantee you are in the green.

Just my view, pure conjecture.

[sage haven]

the only regret is dumb retail who bought those treasuries shares and are under water rn

most of their mnav is sub 1

infinite money glitch only works when your mnav is high, but the strategy will exagerate the downfall too

they dnt have much money anymore, they have been buying while long term holders are selling

not opinion, just data

[sage haven]

woops

[sage haven]

bmnr barely holding

now these companies are selling their holdings to try and prop up their share price otherwise they will be in a downward spiral

but them selling and OGs selling can put more downward pressure on crypto, which means they need to sell more.
where is this "infinite money glitch" @maiden pivot

[maiden pivot]

Its all big pharma

[sage haven]

big pharma has cash flow and patents

these companies sell shares to raise more money or to pay debt/dividend

dumbest thing ive ever seen people buying into

[maiden pivot]

It's always big pharmas fault, I knew it!

[sage haven]

what

[maiden pivot]

Dude I'm just trolling you lmao

[sage haven]

very hard to tell

[sage haven]

Eric trump is staking right?
right??

[sage haven]

inverse linkky

[sage haven]

another test, the next one will break it imo

break 108.2k then im convinced the cycle is over

130k will be a good top

[gusty light]

Enjoy the show all!

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/pinky-eyes-gross-gif-5364963

[verbal cove]

Broken traffic light? I was promised flying to the moon

[sage haven]

btc made 8x ser

sol 30x

eth 5x 😂

xrp 11x

[jagged fulcrum]

Powell was overly hawkish and we had 2 dissents. One voting member wanting a larger cut and one wants no cut.

On the Treasury Co front majority are still buying.

BMNR continues to buy, ETHzIlla sold because the cash on hand they have was raised to buy ETH they were well below mnav so stock buybacks likely the right thing for shareholders.

The Bitcoin Co that got acquired I am not sure they just look to be selling.

[sage haven]

https://x.com/saylor/status/1982779998609293775

Michael Saylor (@saylor)

Strategy has acquired 390 BTC for ~$43.4 million at ~$111,053 per bitcoin and has achieved BTC Yield of 26.0% YTD 2025. As of 10/26/2025, we hodl 640,808 $BTC acquired for ~$47.44 billion at ~$74,032 per bitcoin. $MSTR $STRC $STRK $STRF $STRD https://t.co/1d4Pmv8ub2

X · Oct 27, 2025, 12:02 PM

https://tenor.com/view/homeless-homelessness-mrdeeds-gif-4824878

Bitmine
Cash reserve: $305m
mNAV: 1.01
Recent buy: $136m
ETH daily volume: $37B

gud tek

[verbal cove]

You mean you posted fly 8d ago, wen we pump ser

[sage haven]

jpow is reconsidering dec rate cut and keep saying job is softer

housing weak, job gains slowing replaced by NEO

[verbal cove]

Can this NEO also click my lands in zero and level up my illuvials in Overworld?

[sage haven]

a scholar from a 3rd world country is cheaper than $500/month

[verbal cove]

Remove two zero's and I might actually break even

[north tartan]

Bull over?

[sage haven]

next support is 92k so

[steady wadi]

We should hit 70k near the real rebound.

[sage haven]

thats bear market lol

[sage haven]

no bid

[sage haven]

btc reclaim or die

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/caseoh-churchofsnails-annoyed-awkward-stare-gif-2620202931311687019

Listen it’s either McDonald’s or millionaire linkky.

[steady wadi]

...

[steady wadi]

I will stop wrting stuff.
Wasting my time, understood. Have a great life.

[narrow creek]

Huh no come back 😭 just kidding

I guess there is no in between huh @true tree

[ornate crescent]

ILV VONC time as it crashes into the singles?

[narrow creek]

I should stop writing stuff and go get help

https://tenor.com/view/anchorman-ron-burgundy-will-ferrell-drink-milk-gif-4038381

[true tree]

Welcome to the dip.
Things will come back in a week or two. In the meantime it could get worse.
(I can't silently lurk if you tag me.😂)

[sage haven]

lots of selling in CB got absorbed

[quiet thorn]

Arena has recently received hype from retail investors and the MMO is coming out soon. I believe the pump will start very soon.

[sage haven]

manisfesting inverse h&s

[sage haven]

update on ETHbagholders

[sage haven]

Cmon BTC u can do it

[gusty light]

Binance will pump it for a positive monthly close 113k+

[sage haven]

in cz we trust

[azure cliff]

Illuvium is a survivor

https://x.com/StarPlatinumSOL/status/1983979809060655522

StarPlatinum (@StarPlatinumSOL)

Here’s the list of crypto games and studios

That shut down in 2025

• Battlebound / Anterris
• Blade of God
• Blast Royale
• Champions Ascension
• Derby Race
• Ember Sword
• Goombles
• JungleXYZ
• Kryptomon
• Hello Monster
• Loot Legends
• Metalcore
• Mystery

X · Oct 30, 2025, 7:30 PM

It's only 2025, I think that a lot of other web3 gaming studios shut down in 2024 as well

[stiff stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-still-here-morpheus-zion-speech-matrix-gif-25356793

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/matrix-elmo-elmo-fire-meme-matrix-code-matrix-elmo-gif-24606391

[shadow geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/survivor-destinys-child-gif-18156028

[quiet thorn]

In 2026, we will conquer the world!

[pure grove]

Are there any other web3 games getting the financial support that Illuvium is?

[gusty light]

What financial support are we talking about?

[pure grove]

just like investor fundraising

[gusty light]

Did the team raise new funds? (I am out of the loop)

[pure grove]

Back in August I think from what I read. Could be wrong. I only check back in here every like 6 months haha

[gusty light]

Ha all good. Best way to be tbh. There’s a few studios with good funding in the market and some newbies managing to raise capital.

[sage haven]

yes

[sage haven]

Bulltard: the economy is fine
The economy:

[sage haven]

god please grant us upvember. i promise to sell the pump and drive to sunset.

[uncut silo]

I would be happy if we retrace deeper so i can reload for 2026 banana zone

[sage haven]

[gusty light]

Sounds so easy

[uncut silo]

What is the challenging scenario then?

[gusty light]

Is your scenario the challenging one?

[uncut silo]

The challenging one is the bull is over and i think we are far from it so any other scenarios, im ready for (:

[gusty light]

It’s a good thing to have your own views and stick to your own conviction 💪

[uncut silo]

My scenarios are on the table until they are not anymore 😉 nobody knows what the market is going to do

[gusty light]

Yurp no one truly knows. It’s all a bet.

[sage haven]

let me present mine.
4 years cycle theory is suggesting it's ending.
M2 money supply has pumped and plateuaed.
Momentum we have weekly and monthly triple bearish divergence.
The only argument for an extended cycle is that alts have not pumped high enough, which argueably untrue. we had $10b pepe, $5b wif, $5b virtuals, $15b hype, $5b tao. those are high numbers.

[uncut silo]

So bear start?

[sage haven]

im praying not yet, i still got a bag to sell

[uncut silo]

So crypto goes bear but tradfi goes higher?

[brazen void]

When 1b MC ILV again?

[gusty light]

Sentiment so bad it’s gonna go up

[sage haven]

why tradfi has to go higher?

[uncut silo]

Cuz economy is still very strong?

[sage haven]

In what sense

labour market is softening
housing is rolling over
the only thing propping the market is AI

[uncut silo]

The earnings, vast majority above consensus

[sage haven]

people are still spending

maybe a good idea to rotate to tradfi

[uncut silo]

Inaccurate. Look at earning by sector, not only tech has well performed, but its true consumer sector is struggling

[true tree]

Fed QT is ending, repo markets are stressed. Fed pumps money or the system grinds to a halt.

They don't care about the stock or crypto markets, they care about the bond market and that is where stress is being shown.

They might let it crash but I dont think so as that would be pretty risky with everything going on.

Last week's dip wasn't as low as expected and it might go a bit lower before they step in though.

[azure cliff]

By "step in" you mean start QE and cut rates more aggressively?

[true tree]

Probably open swap lines with foreign central banks so that they pump American dollars into the system.

[sage haven]

remind me what happened to btc the last time QT ended

[fathom cradle]

40% pump in first 2 days followed by crash

[sage haven]

[quasi wyvern]

I'm going to do a research paper on a coin, any hidden gems with long term potential? I was thinking privacy related maybe DPIN, seems to be an emerging narrative.

[fathom cradle]

guess the other difference is powell in 2019 he sounded dovish, now he sounded hawkish. It was also in july/aug

Maybe the biggest thing though was you could say the 2019 crash post the pump was due to repo crisis. Right now we dont have the same thing, something like only 20% of that

(thanks Grok)

[sage haven]

hmm i got no new coins on my radar. but hype is number 1 on my list next bear

[quasi wyvern]

Alt run Q1 2026 Im hearing...

[earnest abyss]

Yep

[sage haven]

i heard about uptober too

[sage haven]

feels good to reclaim 110k VAL

[gusty light]

For 10 mins

[gusty light]

Yes my advisor is ct influencer

[sage haven]

this the usual sunday and monday pump ser

[sage haven]

CPI print lower ✅
Jpow dovish
Trump cancel tariff ✅
Gov shutdown ends

regardless, btc didnt react well to good news while s&p500 keep hitting new ATH.
on chain analysis is saying that long term holders have been selling, maybe because of the "4 years cycle theory" that indicates the cycle to end in the week of 6th october

for BTC vs Global M2 (75d offset) believer, BTC has been deviating

BTC vs S&P500 clearly shows btc has been deviating

[sage haven]

to answer your question

[gusty light]

We shall see if it converges back and then diverge the other way

[sage haven]

we had this divergence last year

[gusty light]

Can happen again

[sage haven]

the reason why people are still praying for extended cycle

[gusty light]

Any alt coin holder is praying for it

[sage haven]

when do you think they gonna realise that the alt szn they are praying for is not coming, and they just have to move on

[gusty light]

Although I don’t think many are left - just feels like a lot because we are all in a bubble. Discord, twitter. All echo chambers

[gusty light]

Hoping soon because then I think it happens lol

[sage haven]

most of the discord im still in is like this one. just graveyard. CT is too. even when btc is still above $100k.
i guess people got really rekt by alts

[gusty light]

Yessir need a bit more🤏

[sage haven]

eth has been the biggest let down this cycle

[errant fable]

It would have been nice if the vertical slice came out at least 1/2 months before the end of 2025, at least something would have been recovered

[sage haven]

[sage haven]

Watching Drain Cleaning Australia until eth reclaims
4k

[narrow creek]

Okay… is it true you guys in Australia encounter kangaroos like this everyday? 😂

[sage haven]

not uncommon lol

[narrow creek]

Wild. Bet Linkky has boxed one before lol

[narrow creek]

https://tenor.com/view/kangaroo-man-punching-gif-15068733

[quasi wyvern]

My back paddock...

[narrow creek]

Kangaroos with cattle. Wild

[narrow creek]

Kangaroo tastes good?

[sage haven]

not at all. kangaroos are jacked and they are gamey

[coral lake]

Veryyyyy lean meat. Its a better source of iron/protein compared to other meats

Australia is the only country that eats the animals on its coat of arms.. loll

https://tenor.com/view/reddit-kangaroo-flexing-muscles-flex-gif-8139850

[narrow creek]

Yeah I’m not trying to eat jerky

No wonder why there are more kangaroos than people in Australia 💀

[quiet thorn]

I think now its the last time buy ilv under 10

[narrow creek]

Say less I’m going to take out my 401k

[narrow creek]

What a view

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/steak-gif-24533885

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-sniff-gif-3199815179106739551

[maiden pivot]

Yeah I have a road I drive down. If it's like 8pm+ then they all over it

[maiden pivot]

They taste delicious if U can find a top chef

[true tree]

Are those your steers? Wouldn't have thought black hides would be that popular in Australia.

[sage haven]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-gif-20530397

[steady wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-bruce-smell-blood-sharks-gif-17116481064341756863

Dangereous free falling might occur

[tawny kiln]

Are you guys enjoying your Uptober followed by Bullvember yet?

[verbal cove]

you have been missed

[tawny kiln]

Just waiting for people to talk about how Q4 is gonna be good lmao

[sage haven]

best way to start a month

[north tartan]

Bottom signal that you show up 🥰

[west bridge]

Q4 is going to be great for ______

[narrow creek]

I need to go lie down again 😕

[quiet thorn]

We have big support at 5

[earnest abyss]

At 0.3 stronger support

[narrow creek]

Dip is for buying

[steady wadi]

Someone did it.

[narrow creek]

lol I doubt I made a dent 😂

[quasi wyvern]

No but all our neighbours are cattle / sheep farmers, I will find out what they are Im seeing one on Saturday.

[narrow creek]

You buy your meat of them huh?

[quasi wyvern]

Yeah we buy from a farmer up the road, its kind of depressing because we cant eat out anymore.

We even went to the top steakhouse in Melbourne and it was shit compared to straight from farm...

We have developed a taste for grass fed grass finished where most people like grain finished, so the restaurants don't use those suppliers.

That could be it also.

[narrow creek]

lol I really don’t like eating out that much anymore as well. I cook better steaks. Jag might be better at it than me tho. He buys that fancy wagyu. But I kinda like grain finished more… more tender imo

Tbh I don’t think I have ever had grass finished… I heard it’s more tough. It’s definitely more expensive

[true tree]

I have such a hard time eating out. I raise my own beef of course and get chicken and pork from friends. Basically the only place I go is out for Indian because it is one thing I am really bad at making.

[narrow creek]

Dang how many cattle do you have?

Butter chicken is 🔥

[sage haven]

honestly im accustomed to grain fed, it's more fatty. grass fed is more gamey for me

[calm beacon]

Great day to DCA

[true tree]

That's like asking how much money I have in my bank account or ILV I own.😂

Butter Chicken, Paneer, Malai Kofta and naan bread are all weaknesses of mine.🤤