#🥩〕staking

1 messages · Page 88 of 1

gloomy gazelle
#

Don’t trust anyone that DMs you first.

I can help here

#

Because v2 staking should be live by the time the vesting rewards are unlocked you’ll be able to withdraw all unlocked tokens in a single transaction.

alpine glade
gloomy gazelle
#

Yes. Revdis would be out in a single pending pot. And Farming yield would be in a different pot. So I think claiming both at the same time would not be doable. But only one to claim all pending revdis and then another one to claim all pending farming rewards.

soft locust
#

Good morning. I've unfortunately been the victim of a hack on my Ethereum wallet in which the thief has cleared out all my ETH and some other tokens. My staked ILV however is untouched as I locked in the staking for a year. I obviously no longer trust the wallet so would rather the staked ILV weren't associated with it. Is there anything I can do along these lines? Or do I just have to try and be faster than the thief to transfer the ILV out once it vests?

alpine glade
fresh grail
soft locust
#

Okay thank you. Yes, definitely getting myself a hardware wallet after all this.

simple arch
steady trellis
#

@warm knoll You can send me screenshoot in DM that i look at your numbers

warm knoll
#

Sure 🙂

hot lynx
brazen egret
#

@restive shard i only started with 5k

restive shard
#

wow, thats soooo crazy

#

i only made 3ilv till now

restive shard
brazen egret
hot lynx
#

🐳

delicate cloak
brittle ingot
#

hey guys is there away to change staking time period? i wanted 52 weeks i accidentally set it up for 12 xD

coral pike
#

You can try to have your dad read this perhaps @cunning perch has a better take though. This is just for the slp pool. Just staking ILV is alot eaiser

https://www.publish0x.com/ilvfi/the-ultimate-faq-illuvium-slp-liquidity-pool-staking-xrnxvzo

Hanging out in the Illuvium Discord, I see the same questions constantly.  While it’s exciting to see people continually discover a project that I’m very passionate about, there’s a lot to learn, particularly if you’re new to yield farming.  Over the...

cunning perch
#

@coral pike when something is locked, no one can touch it, not even God. There’s always a possibility of everything going down which is applied to crypto in general. Nothing will happen to your staked ILV, but the price movement and not being able to touch it. Regarding SLP, impermanent loss will most def happen to it due to price movements and if everything goes down, you will lose your ETH/ILV because ppl can buy it cheaper and since it is locked no one can do anything to it. These are the risks everyone has to take into account.

potent sable
#

Hey guys does anyone have details on when staking ends?

coral pike
cunning perch
cunning perch
hollow pagoda
#

@cunning perch Yo! My man Arash the legend that answers all my questions... i have another haha

Do you get sILV in exchange for staking ILV, not as a staking reward, more like how when you stake 1 SUSHI on Sushiswap you get 1 xSUSHI, i know the price of sILV and ILV isn't the same but maybe different amount but same value?

potent sable
#

and 3 million distributed right?

cunning perch
potent sable
cunning perch
hollow pagoda
#

oh wow

clear cape
#

Go on youtube and show him some trust worthy looking youtubers talking about ILV and why its going to be the biggest game in 2022

will probably make him feel more comfortable lmao

coral pike
#

@cunning perch do know what "there will be a bonus " means after the 2 weeks of no yield during the switch ?

cunning perch
coral pike
cunning perch
delicate cloak
# clear cape Go on youtube and show him some trust worthy looking youtubers talking about ILV...

@gentle axle if he's got any interest in gaming or can appreciate the quality, this does a lot. I remember researching Illuvium and checking out videos. My other half saw a clip and just said "are we invested in this?", I said "not yet, still checking it out". The response was "you need to get into this, especially if it's early. This has huge potential" and this is from a non gamer who sees me game and is quite picky about high quality TV/movies and could see it was off that caliber.

sacred cosmos
delicate cloak
sacred cosmos
clear cape
craggy field
potent sable
#

anyone have the resource for how much of the seed tokens actually unlocks in March etc?

clear cape
atomic lagoon
bright heart
#

I've heard on youtube video, that there will be changes to revdis. Can anyone help me find the info about this?

cunning perch
dim dock
#

Does the 12 month vesting period only starts after you claimed your rewards? So when I don’t claim them during 1 year (due to high gas fees, calculator says that not claiming them would bring the most dollars) so when I only claim the rewards after 1 year I have to wait another year to withdraw my rewards?

hexed meadow
dim dock
#

When I use the excel from Derash it says the best is to not claim them for a year (most dollars, fees and compounding effect included I guess). But side effect is then that I have to wait another year for the rewards

hexed meadow
#

Not sure on the spreadsheet, I guess it really depends on how much you have invested. Every claim will cost you around $100 in fees, so if you have staked small amounts then not worth it.

cunning perch
dim dock
#

Only claim when gas is 1% of total and gas is always around 100 dollars then it’s only worth claiming when you have 10 000 dollars in rewards 😄 lol. Have an idea how much the land is going to cost? Then maybe I can better claim sILV instead of ILV

cunning perch
gentle axle
#

Thanks @cunning perch and @coral pike regarding my dad. Will sit down with him

dim dock
#

I know, I have to make the decision myself. 😄 I guess it also depends on my price prediction for Ilv in the future, if you choose for as much dollars as possible (minus gas) as much ILV as possible which can become even more due to price appreciation

cunning perch
cunning perch
gentle axle
cunning perch
dim dock
cunning perch
spice hemlock
#

So my LP stake expires tomorrow. Does anyone know if I can simply extend by lock period? Or do I need to unstake and set up a new stake if I wish to continue staking my LP?

cunning perch
next ruin
half idol
spice hemlock
cunning perch
cunning perch
spice hemlock
cunning perch
#

@next ruin I leave it in your capable hands 🙂 heading home now

half idol
cunning perch
spice hemlock
#

so for V2, we will need to move over all our existing stakes? For example, I have a straight ILV Stake going as well. In 2-3 weeks, Ill need to migrate that over I assume?

next ruin
cunning perch
next ruin
cunning perch
# next ruin I *still* don't have my mind fully around the V2 scenarios and I've read the IIP...

Ah no worries. In a simple version it's like this: locked tokens are set on V1. So, since V1 is gonna be rendered obsolete, when you upgrade, you are allowing V2 to read your V1-staked tokens in a way as if they are locked on V2 🙂 is it clear? Donno if I said it clearly haha (now migration is literally moving them on V2 and requires a reward claim too. For this, they need to be unlocked)

pearl juniper
#

this might be a question that correlates with your situation, but around what point are you claiming your ILV rewards? right now i make ~1 ILV every week and I've been claiming it - is this a smart move?

wheat venture
#

So what’s the real affect for us who are staked on v1 ? Nothing much ?

tacit nacelle
#

Whats the % rewards for staking ILV now?
Say if you had 5.

next ruin
feral olive
brittle ingot
#

Hey how i add sILV token to metamask ? Also when i click to redeem sILV nothing happens anyone can help?

signal ravine
#

So you need to go to the add token place and add sILV with the code thing : ILV Token: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP Token: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV Token: 0x398aea1c9ceb7de800284bb399a15e0efe5a9ec2

#

also check pinned messages in tokens to make sure I gave you the right codes. 😉

brittle ingot
#

Okay thanks any idea why after i click to get rewards nothing happens?

signal ravine
#

hmmmmmm, in illuvium website? Do you have your crytpo account connected?

brittle ingot
#

metamask wallet ye

signal ravine
#

You need to have ilv staked to get rewards, but you should still be able to see the page I think.

brittle ingot
#

yeah i have staked and it says how much rewards i have so far

signal ravine
#

Oh wait you are talking about pulling the rewards out?

brittle ingot
#

yeah but the silv ones not the ilv

#

just wanna check how the process is with metamask and the fees

signal ravine
#

oooh hmmm I can tell you fees will be very high, but I haven't ever pulled out my rewards yet so I dont actually know srry.

brittle ingot
#

yeah you have to take them like in the end one time but just wanted to see if its possible

signal ravine
#

I did watch a vid about it once on YouTube a while ago, so try checking there.

brittle ingot
#

aight thanks

signal ravine
#

Ya sorry I could help more

urban orbit
#

Hey all, I am trying to stake but having a difficult time. Is there a minimum needed for staking?

signal ravine
#

I dont think so, But you will probably want a decent amount of money cause gas is gonna eat you out.

urban orbit
#

I have some set aside for the insane gas prices but for some reason my staking amount isnt populating

signal ravine
#

hmmmmm I honestly have no idea man, so you have already connected your wallet to illuvium, and you have ILV, and you go to staking and it wont stake or you dont see you ILV or what?

tiny glacier
#

if i staked for 6 months and my coins unlock, but i keep them in, are they earning the weighted reward rate or just flexible now?

signal ravine
#

hmmmm id assume flex, but i dont know that

urban orbit
#

oh wait! I reloaded the page and the wallet connect approval final came up

signal ravine
#

Oh nice that's great!

urban orbit
#

Yeah! Thanks man!

brittle ingot
#

Hey claim buttons are greyed out anyone can help i cant claim rewards

wheat kestrel
exotic quarry
#

Heey guys, can you stake and hold $ILV with Trezor or Ledger? Want to get one soon

tiny glacier
#

oh wow that’s great

whole saffron
#

@exotic quarry this is what i see

wheat kestrel
exotic quarry
whole saffron
exotic quarry
wheat kestrel
exotic quarry
#

Still thinking about Trezor cause people say it has nice software and really secure

wheat kestrel
tiny glacier
exotic quarry
#

And the coins are stored in the HW which makes it more secure?

wheat kestrel
next ruin
exotic quarry
#

Oooo, okay I got it. Makes sense yeah

tacit nacelle
#

anyone know what the gas fees will be like on v2?

next ruin
karmic saffron
#

I've staked for 52 weeks. So i'm locked. Is there anything active I need to be doing for v2?

brisk surge
#

have a few tokens unlocking in a few days was just curious of the exact date, when it says 3 days, does it mean ❤️ days or 3 days to 3 days 23 hrs?

keen burrow
#

hi there! can someone explain me how liquidity pool is working? 🙂

woven ibexBOT
#

Providing liquidity for ILV is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires a few different steps compared to staking only ILV. These steps are the following:

If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained

sweet ledge
#

Do we need to stake our tokens to claim rev dis when they do come?

unborn cargo
#

anyone able to explain the difference between shushi staking and normal staking please?

mystic thorn
# unborn cargo anyone able to explain the difference between shushi staking and normal staking ...

If you are referring to SLP Staking and ILV staking then here is a explanation. SLP is apart of the sushi liquidity pool where you combine etherium and ILV into an SLP. One downside of SLP is the imperminant loss that comes with it means if your etherium and ilv that you put in no longer match (the prices change) you will lose some of that token. However this is extremely small compared to the ilv you will be getting from its apy. And staking ilv is exactly what it sounds like. SLP holder get much more of the rewards rewards than ILV stakers do

keen burrow
#

would u recommend staking slp or ilv? for me its hard to decide

brazen egret
keen burrow
#

maybe lik 2-3k

mystic thorn
# keen burrow maybe lik 2-3k

I would suggest SLP then for it has a lot higher APY. The only downside is the gas prices are like 20$ more but it is well worth it if you are putting in more than 1k

mystic thorn
plush vapor
#

but prices are going down with stake v2

#

Use this to verify transaction fees

plush vapor
keen burrow
mystic thorn
keen burrow
#

isnt illivium flexing with immutable x for low gas fees? 😄 i dont understand this. how is it? can someone explain me maybe 😄

plush vapor
keen burrow
#

so stake v2 will be the low gas fee transactions stuff?

plush vapor
keen burrow
#

ooh cool. so maybe its better to wait till then.. mhhh. is there any information about staking v2. do we know when its coming?

plush vapor
keen burrow
#

nice thx sir!

plush vapor
#

No prob, I'm also gonna wait for it

keen burrow
plush vapor
keen burrow
#

alright fine

unborn cargo
mystic thorn
gentle axle
#

If I have some SLP in my wallet that I want to stake, is it better for me to wait for V2 or should I stake now? What would be the difference between staking now or waiting

brisk surge
#

780 gwei lol wtf happened

brazen egret
#

mine is showing 875 gwei lol

spare phoenix
#

Dammit I've got 1.0 ILV I've been wanting to stake for a month and the gas is always $150+ when i check.

brisk surge
#

its crazy how $100-150 to claim can be considered cheap now

nimble tendon
keen burrow
#

someone knows how much fees to pay from buying ilv on binance till it is staked in slp pool?

plush vapor
keen burrow
#

this is crazy

plush vapor
final steppe
gentle axle
nimble tendon
gentle axle
barren notch
#

Hi can you please help and tell me how staking works here

final steppe
woven ibexBOT
#

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

  • You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
  • You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
  • You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
  • You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
  • After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

barren notch
#

Thank you 🙏 what is the apy ?

final steppe
barren notch
#

Apy is higher with sushi Lp 😮

#

Thank you 🙏

next ruin
next ruin
# barren notch Sorry what is Revdis

The tokenomics of this DAO include a 100% revenue distribution (could be subject to change - DAO governance). This means that any kind of revenue generated through sales or in-game revenue is distributed back to holders of staked ILV. The same max supply of 10 Million ILV will be used for this purpose regardless of how many games the DAO develops.

Revenue distribution is paid out in the form of unlocked ILV and the payout is done multiple times a week without a fixed schedule. Before paying out revenue distribution, the vault converts ETH spent in-game into ILV by buying it off the market which puts buying pressure on the ILV token and thus supports its price development.

barren notch
#

Waw I love it 😍

barren notch
#

Last question please! Why the apy is very high if using sushi instead ILV.

#

Like if I wanna stake now I have to buy sushi instead ILV

#

What has sushi to do with ILV project

next ruin
simple arch
next ruin
barren notch
#

I will definitely I really appreciate it guys

#

Fast response and very professional
👏

granite halo
#

Just curious, but now that sILV price has gone way up, wouldn't selling sILV and then buying ILV and restaking it now be quite profitable?

boreal cape
#

Just want to confirm guys. If you are staked and locked, you cannot migrate to v2 right? And even if you claim your rewards (ILV) they will best for a year again in v1. Did I get it right?

cyan rampart
next ruin
#

Yep, and it becomes more feasible for smaller bags as the ILV/sILV gap closes.

gentle axle
#

Getting about 0.1 ILV in reward daily from SLP. That is about $165 US dollars, per day. I will claim some of it soon to be available to me in 1 year, but right now it's only just a number. But getting that much per day, for "FREE" is literally beyond me. I know the ecosystem well enough now, I KNOW it's not a scam - but my abstract brain does not want to agree with my logical thinking. Nothing was ever free to me in my life, and now this is making more per week than my 9-5 after a 3-year degree. I have read just about every document on here and the website, blogs, and videos. I know how it works, but I will never be able to comprehend it. To me, this is all just a fantasy until some of that money is in my bank account in 1 year. Despite all my reading about the ecosystem, if anyone has a simple sentence to convince the other part of my brain that this is indeed real and I will have a deposit for a house in a couple of years thanks to Illuvium, please OH PLEASE do tell me, I am spastic!

gentle axle
vast rampart
clear cape
gentle axle
vast rampart
#

thats amazing

gentle axle
coral pike
#

@clear cape where is your tag points up

coral pike
clear cape
gentle axle
#

So, I guess no one can convince my brain lol

clear cape
next ruin
atomic lagoon
#

stake or not though, if u hold ILV, it's already a win long term. but i do stake myself as well

silent cedar
vital frigate
#

Are you guys all polemos scholar?

atomic lagoon
vital frigate
earnest geode
earnest geode
gentle flint
#

Does anyone have information on how staking works? I have a tiny bit of crypto freed up to invest and I haven’t researched this stuff since the bull market of 2017

#

Is there somewhere I can get caught up on this easily? Atlas_Yeah

atomic lagoon
# gentle flint Does anyone have information on how staking works? I have a tiny bit of crypto f...

You can watch this

https://youtu.be/7T2WzeXWC4k

They are many good videos on YouTube.

Want to know how to stake in the Illuvium Ecosystem? The Benefits of Staking! The different types of Staking and which you should choose for Yourself!

How To Stake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4
Gas Fees calculator for every type of Illuvium Transaction: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-yorrLEO7051B8ELI7eBtAOohYn8DME4peMPa...

▶ Play video
next ruin
gentle axle
gentle flint
#

Thanks I’m checking it out

alpine glade
gentle flint
#

Ok

crimson cipher
echo inlet
#

quick question. If i claim sILV the in-game curr does that trade on the secondary market? and if so whats the %

atomic lagoon
echo inlet
#

gotcha

undone forum
#

Question: on the website it's stated that ILV rewards are subject to a 12 month vesting period and that while they are vesting they compound your rewards...where is the compound of those rewards shown at? Is there anywhere we can see the compounded rewards from vesting ILV tokens?

manic spindle
undone forum
#

Oh sweet...totally understand now. Thanks for the response...didn't realize the rewards were added to my total amount staked while they are vesting!

delicate plaza
#

Can you stake if your illuvium is on a ledger and you access it via metamask?

brittle ingot
#

@median canyon hey can you check your dm when you are available there is a delicate matter with v2 i want to ask about its a bit of emergency thanks

narrow ginkgo
#

how do you remove your stake?? i cant find an unstake button anywhere

brittle ingot
#

@narrow ginkgo bro dont answer any dm tou get from “mods” they are scammers

brittle ingot
#

I saw him type here by mistake xD

narrow ginkgo
#

hahah yer i seen that

#

is there not a way to unstake? i dont want to do it i just want to be aware of how to do it

clear cape
narrow ginkgo
#

yer i chose flexible months ago

#

just came back to check on my rewards and thought that i better suss out how to unstake but there doesnt seem to be a button any where

narrow ginkgo
#

yer that just has all of my rewards from flash pools and previously claimed from core pool. my initial stake isnt there

gloomy gazelle
narrow ginkgo
#

it still shows on the dashboard as staked, i click on go to pool underneath but it doesnt have any way to remove

clear cape
gloomy gazelle
#

Yeah it’s in vesting.

#

Or we need to contact CC

narrow ginkgo
#

hold on i might of put it in through another wallet

#

lol dont worry im a spastic. it was in my other wallet

gloomy gazelle
#

Seems likely.

#

Oh good.

narrow ginkgo
#

thanks for the help though

flat arrow
atomic lagoon
flat arrow
#

Perfect thanks

glass inlet
#

I staked my 1.4 ILV and it’s on MetaMask and I had staked it for a year but it’s gone, says no access So please let me know how that works??? As it’s missing. I had dollar cost average to buy it. So if it’s staked for a year how can anyone take it? Thanks

atomic lagoon
nocturne ferry
#

Sorry for stupid question but, if i have no gas to upgrade or migrate when V2 has come, what happens with my SLP and rewards on V1? I will lost?

simple arch
vital kayak
#

Well, a little update: our claiming sILV and restaking ILV in SLP had worked out quite nicely. Appreciate the help everyone

karmic dune
#

hello, i would like stake 0.149 ilv, they are on binance, i need to transfert on metamask wallet with etherium reseau ?

cyan wagon
karmic dune
#

I don't undestand why they use this réseau !!

scenic crescent
#

most of the ingame things will be on layer 2, so with zero gas fees, through the Immutable X. Just to deposit will be expensive aswell as staking is expensive, but that will hopefully be better with eth2.0 and staking v2

karmic dune
#

in 6 months / 1 year

harsh galleon
#

Does anyone know if it is possible to claim only the SLP rewards?

I've already wasted so much gas because the flexible pool rewards are always claimed along with the SLP rewards

opal tulip
#

Ok thanks for the redirecting.
So for people with locked staking, would upgrade first correct?

What I meant is those ILV from rewards. Do we need to upgrade them manually or it auto record and port over to V2?

cunning perch
opal tulip
nocturne ferry
cunning perch
cunning perch
opal tulip
#

Ok thanks.

nocturne ferry
#

tnks bro

inland berry
#

Hi guys! Will it be possible with staking v2 to change the address associated with the illuvium locked liquidity? Because my associated address right now is compromised by a hacker. I can't lose the tokens when they unlock!

uneven flare
#

The upgrade will cost what type of eth transaction? Like a transfer from address or like adding to another stake?

silent arrow
heavy void
#

hi where we can stake our ILV ?

silent arrow
#

on the official website, at the top "stacking"

heavy void
#

ok

livid gorge
thorn spindle
#

Is it worth staking just one ILV regarding ETH gas fees?

#

Also is it possible to stake with ledger? If not, what would you suggest is the best wallet to stake from?

autumn cloak
atomic lagoon
clear cape
thorn spindle
#

Thanks guys , when is v2 staking coming ?

autumn cloak
thorn spindle
#

Great! I’ll be looking in to it! 😃

inland berry
autumn cloak
inland berry
autumn cloak
cunning perch
cyan river
#

How do you get your metamask hacked kekw

inland berry
delicate cloak
#

That's the whole point of decentralisation. One person can't freeze or lock your funds.

cyan river
delicate cloak
#

You take back control but you assume 100% of the risk too. There's no customer service line.

mint cave
inland berry
#

I have moved ETH there after the incident. It was not drained.

mint cave
delicate cloak
#

You don't really have much choice...

delicate cloak
inland berry
#

So I need an automated bot with super high fee price for high speed of transaction?

cyan river
#

Read it more lol

inland berry
#

the wallet is empty by now. What is missing is the locked ilv and slp tokens.

delicate cloak
#

I would test just before unlock and put ETH in. If it's not auto drained, then it would appear no bot is waiting to drain your wallet. Then just move immediately after unlock. And get a hardware wallet.

inland berry
mossy jewel
#

Hey guys, I wanted to start staking soon. Just making sure I got everything figured out before I start. Maybe someone can help me out with these questions: 1) is there compound staking for the locked period? I guess not because the rewards are only claimable after the locked period ends. Or is there Auto-compounding?
2)If I want to invest in the liquidity pool, do I buy ILV to stake or sushi? Does it matter which one?
3) is it possible to stake parts of a token? Like 1,5 ILV or does it need to be whole tokens.
4) I saw in the FAQ ilv got listed on Binance. Can I buy from there or would you recommend getting ilv from a dex?

cunning perch
cunning perch
#

!read

cunning perch
#

!staking

woven ibexBOT
#

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

  • You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
  • You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
  • You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
  • You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
  • After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

olive hatch
#

As far as staking rewards go, do you need to claim rewards before the 12 month vesting period begins ? Or do you just let the reward build for a year amd then claim? Claiming requires gas and you earn rewards daily so that would get costly?

woven ibexBOT
#

Providing liquidity for ILV is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires a few different steps compared to staking only ILV. These steps are the following:

If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained

#

Rewards from staking have to be manually claimed and GAS fees for those transactions have to be paid:

  • When you stake ILV yield farming rewards start piling up for you
  • You claim those rewards whenever you deem the pile to be big enough to justify gas fees
  • If you claim sILV you have it unlocked right away (sILV is only usable in game as a substitute currency for ETH outside the marketplace and the Leviathan Arena)
  • If you claim ILV then that batch of ILV gets locked for 12 months and automatically staked in the ILV pool with a token weight of 2.0 for compounding effect
  • New rewards start piling up....rinse and repeat

NB: ILV paid out as part of Illuvium’s Revenue Distribution have to be claimed as well but are not subject to a locking period.

autumn cloak
craggy field
#

I just claimed my SLP rewards 4 days after i claimed my ILV rewards (the SLP transaction failed and i just retried that one). The amount of SLP i claimed was similar to the amount it should have claimed, but i have not kept track of the ILV pool value. Right now both pools have 0 rewards which is odd because i only claimed the SLP rewards this time.

The ILV pool should have 4 days of rewards in the pool, so i am doubting whether it threw away these rewards, or that they got added up on my earlier claim. The earlier claim by the way still shows 361 days instead of resetting to 365 so i doubt the latter was the case.

Anyone else had a similar experience and/or can tell me what actually happened here? 😄

cunning perch
olive hatch
#

@cunning perch thank you I got it now.. it all makes sense I will do weekly claims that seems cost effective

cunning perch
craggy field
#

i clicked claim ILV from the SLP pool 4 days ago. I did two transactions, ILV went through, SLP failed.
Today i tried claiming the SLP again, as it stated: you could try the transaction again.
So i solely claimed the SLP pool today (4 days later than the ILV pool)

After the transaction succeeded now both my pools with rewards are empty, and the SLP has successfully been claimed. The ILV rewards over the last 4 days vanished OR they got added up to my earlier claim 4 days ago.

cunning perch
craggy field
# cunning perch your ILV pool must have been so small I guess. Nothing vanishes tbh

well since i can't see the extra vesting small amount, i either think it got added up to my ILV rewards from 4 days ago, or it got added to the SLP rewards, or they vanished.

But if one of the first 2 were the case, then why do we even claim the ILV core pool? If it can get added to an earlier claim then the first transaction makes no sense. 🙂 from that perspective vanishing would be a more obvious but sad outcome.

delicate cloak
cunning perch
craggy field
delicate cloak
craggy field
#

exactly

cunning perch
delicate cloak
cunning perch
delicate cloak
#

Good to know for future reference

inland berry
cunning perch
# inland berry Can you give your input on the issue I raised? :x

hey you mean freezing the tokens? it's not possible as they are in a locked contract. One guy who got scammed is trying to add his own bot to his wallet (through his dev friend), but no one knows if that would work. Other than that, I don't think there is anything anyone can do tbh

inland berry
cunning perch
cunning perch
inland berry
woven ibexBOT
#

Rewards from staking have to be manually claimed and GAS fees for those transactions have to be paid:

  • When you stake ILV yield farming rewards start piling up for you
  • You claim those rewards whenever you deem the pile to be big enough to justify gas fees
  • If you claim sILV you have it unlocked right away (sILV is only usable in game as a substitute currency for ETH outside the marketplace and the Leviathan Arena)
  • If you claim ILV then that batch of ILV gets locked for 12 months and automatically staked in the ILV pool with a token weight of 2.0 for compounding effect
  • New rewards start piling up....rinse and repeat

NB: ILV paid out as part of Illuvium’s Revenue Distribution have to be claimed as well but are not subject to a locking period.

pliant dome
#

It’s a huge fee for gas… damn

frank pecan
#

!staking

woven ibexBOT
#

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

  • You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
  • You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
  • You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
  • You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
  • After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

cunning perch
thin shell
#

The gas fees to claim are outrageous

polar kiln
#

Do we know if the gas fees change at all in V2 staking?

cyan rampart
polar kiln
#

Do you have a link to the rest of that?

cyan rampart
polar kiln
#

Thanks!

brisk surge
polar kiln
#

I made 2 separate Sushi Tokens yesterday, then added one to locked and one to flexible. Then a few hours late changed my mind and moved my flexible to locked... So. Many. Fees. Especially since I had to keep claiming. I feel violated.

#

Looking forward to v2.

next ruin
polar kiln
#

Nothing like buying the top as well. Seeing the rewards roll in is my only consolation as of now.

next ruin
polar kiln
#

It's why I switched from my half and half strategy to all in within 3 hours of the initial lock up. Watching the rewards come in is kind of unreal and quite the eye opener. I wish I would've done the liquidity pool sooner, but it was a little scary.

sturdy crown
#

Is it better to wait for v2 until I start staking? Or does it not matter?

simple arch
sturdy crown
#

I was thinking just ilv

cyan rampart
cunning perch
sturdy crown
#

@cyan rampart @cunning perch that was what I was thinking to and good point on the gas fee. I agree with both of you i will wait until v2 to stake. That also means more money to save to investAtlas_Yeah

willow vapor
#

I'm trying to collect ILV via binance, so BEP20. While waiting for the staking v2. Anyone knows the bep20 contract address for it? So I can keep it on my wallet for the mean time? Thanks

cunning perch
willow vapor
cyan rampart
cunning perch
willow vapor
#

Got it. No worries, just checking if possible.

honest crescent
#

!contract

woven ibexBOT
#

ILV Token: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP Token: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV Token: 0x398aea1c9ceb7de800284bb399a15e0efe5a9ec2

left radish
#

guys do we know how much cheaper staking will be after v2 comes out? right now I know if you have ILV already you pay gas fees twice to stake and then everytime you try and claim rewards as well, but what's that going to look like with V2?

gloomy gazelle
flat lintel
#

Hi guys. So my ILV is locked for a year if v2 staking comes out do I need to pay gas fee to transfer there?

cunning perch
flat lintel
cunning perch
flat lintel
cunning perch
brisk surge
willow vapor
thin osprey
#

how often do everyone claim their ILV to compound their staking?

next ruin
thin osprey
next ruin
thin osprey
magic laurel
keen verge
#

how does migrating to V2 works? will there be a button that I press to migrate to V2 or will my tokens unlock and I have to restake at V2?

gloomy gazelle
tidal cipher
#

I was only able to purchase my ILV on crypto.com since KuCoin didn’t allow me where I live. I’m trying to transfer my IlV out of crypto.com but don’t meet the minimum transfer requirement at the moment. Does anyone know a way around this? I’m sure there isn’t figured I’d ask just in case. Thanks to anyone

gloomy gazelle
gloomy gazelle
woven ibexBOT
#

This is a reminder to never give out your private key (12 to 24 word seed phrase) to anyone.
Nobody in the team will ever ask you to send ETH. There has been increasing activity of DMs in this Discord related to scams and fake giveaways.

Any giveaways/promotions will be announced on official channels. Not in Discord DMs. #🚨❗〕report-scammers in the linked section with a screenshot of the message you got in DM's. Also include the "@ username" in text and we will ban them. We are growing fast and there are targeted scams going around. Only trust links from official channels.

tidal cipher
silent cedar
tidal cipher
earnest geode
#

Plus you'll pay a 0.04 ILV fee to transfer out of Crypto.com (or it was last time I transferred to my MM), so you want to make sure it's worth it. Perhaps keep accumulating it and wait until V2 releases to start moving it around?

gentle axle
#

So for example I have a list of 6-7 vesting rewards in my Vesting tab, some of which are something like 0.000046 ILV vesting. Each one of these has a different vesting locked period, ranging from 260 days to 360 ish. As I understand, these will be merged into one single element, correct? And if so, will you be merging the remaining vesting periods as well, or take the longest one? How would that work

#

That is, will the merged element be locked for 360 days, or an average of the periods?

silent cedar
sturdy crown
clear cloak
#

When I claim ILV do you start earn 2 weight because it locks for the 1 year?

queen jungle
#

Completely new to all of this, and staking for the first time so pardon my ignorance, after some trial and error finally staked a small amount.

0.14 SLP```
What to expect going forward in terms of rewards? After reading previous comments I should have waited for v2 it seems...
late pagoda
#

I added $100 worth of ethereum for liquidity in sushi swap the transaction was confirmed but now I have no ethereum or proof of a liquidity position. Can anyone help?

next ruin
queen jungle
late pagoda
#

I just added the ethereum

#

It didn't ask for the ILV in order to have the transaction go through

queen jungle
#

Then it probably didn't complete, you need both tokens.

late pagoda
#

So it just took the money and nothing happened then? 🤦

queen jungle
#

Probably not, if it did then there would have been an etherscan block

#

Anyways... I'm still figuring things out. I'll let someone who knows chime in.

delicate plaza
#

Is it better to wait till V2 release to claim rewards now? or will we have up claim rewards anyway prior to migrating and upgrading?

wheat venture
#

So for people staked on v1 like I am, we basically have to pay gas for no reason ?

next ruin
delicate plaza
#

Gas under 60. Well I'll be

cyan rampart
#

Whoops, meant to tag @late pagoda sry meat 🙂

cyan rampart
#

My mouse finger gets fat after 8 PM

potent sapphire
#

So just curious, i recently staked 3 ILV that I've been holding for a few weeks now but just curious about the apy in the locked basic pool. It says 40% but is that referring to the original dollar value of your investment or the value of your token investment? Also people are saying that the apy goes down about 3 percent per fortnight. Does that mean that within about 15 weeks apy will be zero? Sorry for the slightly silly questions.

delicate cloak
potent sapphire
#

Okay, that helps, thank you! I'll take a look at that calculator

queen grove
#

Looking for calculator now

cyan rampart
# queen grove wait, the 40% or 400% SLP is calculated based off of USD? What are the percentag...

The 40% doesn't matter - your entire stake is in ILV, and your rewards are in ILV. 40% on your ILV or 40% on your USD value is the same.

The APY for the SLP is more complicated, because you're staking a token comprised of 2 assets - ETH and ILV, and your rewards are ONLY in ILV. The APY in the SLP is based off the value of your investment, i.e. (# of SLP tokens) * (SLP token price) * (APY) = Rewards

#

The APY in the SLP also varies with the price of ILV, because only HALF of your stake is ILV, but ALL your rewards are ILV. As such, the APY increases when ILV pumps compared to ETH.

jovial root
gloomy gazelle
iron pebble
#

Hey guys, so if I put a low gas fee for claiming rewards it should stay in queue until the day it can go through, right? No risk on doing so?

gloomy gazelle
#

I’ve experienced this working. But also failing.

iron pebble
#

But it'll just get stuck queued so you can just cancel, right? I'm kinda tight on the ETH so I can't pay these damn gas fees lol

gloomy gazelle
#

What I think happens is that the gas limit estimation is based on the tx complexity at the time you approve it. But as you have more ILV to claim the transaction limit should be increased a little. So when I’ve rounded up my gas limit an extra 50k or so it has worked.

gloomy gazelle
iron pebble
gloomy gazelle
#

Someone said they saw 60

#

!gas

woven ibexBOT
#

GAS fees are an important thing to consider when it comes to transactions on the Ethereum Mainnet. Optimal GWEI can be found by checking the Gas tracker bot in the discord member list and by checking historical gas prices here: https://etherscan.io/gastracker#historicaldata

iron pebble
#

Cool, it seems 60 isn't too low. I'll try with like 70 and leave it at that. Thanks!

alpine glade
#

wen ETH 4k? Need to load up before staking v2

gloomy gazelle
#

Daily lows seem to be under 50

iron pebble
#

nvm forgot about the second claim fee lmaooooo

gloomy gazelle
iron pebble
gloomy gazelle
#

Yeah SLP claim is gas heavy

#

Two transactions and the second one gets approved after the first. And that second one has like 2x the gas limit as the first.

#

Yeah cancel that mess.

pastel gull
#

Should I stake now or wait for V.2? If I do stake now will I have to pay withdraw and staking fees again?

iron pebble
#

Damn I'm gonna lose $15 because I'm stupid. I guess I'm never claiming those rewards hahaha. Well, it's not like I'm generating a ton of ILV anyway.

#

@gloomy gazelle is this "and set the gas higher (to what is recommended on https://etherscan.io/gastracker). ETH amount can be left at 0." necessary in your opinion? Just want to make sure.

gloomy gazelle
iron pebble
gloomy gazelle
#

!scam

woven ibexBOT
#

This is a reminder to never give out your private key (12 to 24 word seed phrase) to anyone.
Nobody in the team will ever ask you to send ETH. There has been increasing activity of DMs in this Discord related to scams and fake giveaways.

Any giveaways/promotions will be announced on official channels. Not in Discord DMs. #🚨❗〕report-scammers in the linked section with a screenshot of the message you got in DM's. Also include the "@ username" in text and we will ban them. We are growing fast and there are targeted scams going around. Only trust links from official channels.

gloomy gazelle
#

Don’t let the ARASH impersonator fool you in DMs

floral egret
#

hi i am an earlier staker, when do i have to migrate my Lp ?

atomic lagoon
gloomy gazelle
floral egret
#

ahh, the gas fees..

iron pebble
floral egret
#

do i have to do anything about the vesting reward? btw will. wait

#

already paid around $400 to claim rewards

gloomy gazelle
steady trellis
#

As usual, sharing in case it's interesting to anyone

plain vortex
#

Is there anyway to avoid that crazy fees? If I want to make an ILV/ETH pair its crazy high fees. First I paid like 180$ for swapping eth in ilv and than they want 280$ for making the pair. With 700$ invest I lose more than half of my money.

gloomy gazelle
gloomy gazelle
knotty riverBOT
#

Fast: 91 Standard: 90 Slow: 89
Simple ETH TX: $8.69 (0.0019 Ξ)
Token Approval (ERC20): $21.04 (0.0046 Ξ)
Token Transfer (ERC20): $20.13 (0.0044 Ξ)
Uniswap Trades: $49.86 - $83.25 (0.0109 Ξ - 0.0182 Ξ)

craggy field
steady trellis
#

This one is frightening @craggy field

gloomy gazelle
steady trellis
#

Like .... wtf was I not aware of this project last june/july 😵 should have come back to crypto a few months earlier

gloomy gazelle
#

The APY for the ramp up day(s) before distributions started looked insane.

craggy field
steady trellis
#

It is what it is 😛

gloomy gazelle
#

V2 numbers during upgrade will be exciting to look at as well. But the truth is out there.

steady trellis
#

Yep better be there on day 1

gloomy gazelle
#

Two week pause makes that doable for anyone that pays attention

atomic lagoon
#

miss these SLP prices 😦

steady trellis
#

Yep got my stack of SLP at those prices

digital narwhal
#

Illuvium has been the best investment so far for me since 2017.

random crypt
#

Where to stake ilv??

digital narwhal
strong forge
#

So if more people stake… does that mean the percentage goes up or down?

next ruin
strong forge
#

Gotcha

#

You think it’s still worth it to throw money in sushi lp pool?

next ruin
woeful stirrup
#

Question about the flash pool

#

Are you supposed to withdraw after the flash pool is complete? Or is it still active as long as you leave it in there.

gentle axle
#

Hey btw will we be able to stake SLP locked for 1 year with a weight of 2 in V2 or no?

ripe parcel
cunning perch
woeful stirrup
#

Are you saying that when I withdraw, I am forced to claim the reward at the same time?

#

damn man, the reward is like only a 0.25 ILV

cunning perch
woeful stirrup
#

I presume you meant, when FP has ended you can withdraw right? There's no point leaving it there when it's ended, like it's not earning anything right.

cunning perch
woeful stirrup
#

ok thx for the clarification. Probably shouldn't have entered the pool in the first place

woeful stirrup
#

any idea what the land sale will be sold in. Currency wise.

woeful stirrup
#

o ok

junior iron
#

gm

woeful stirrup
#

your choice?

vital frigate
#

sILV obviously.

potent sable
#

sILV costs close to 600 usd. But has ILV buying power

vital frigate
#

True

potent sable
#

When the team tokens unlock is anything stopping them from nuking the slp pool with their inflow?

cunning perch
potent sable
cunning perch
potent sable
#

I know this is gonna sound weird but have u seen any of my vids?? You're like my favourite mod and I'd be so flattered :P

potent sable
#

Maybe less so with impermanent loss and the amount of apy they would drop the pool by

cunning perch
potent sable
#

I've made a really neat revdis compounding interest calculator im excited to make content on. Basically it shows that with 10 tokens and compounding revdis. You could be a multi millionaire in 10 years. During a bear market you could be a multi millionaire in 5 years. Crazy to think ilv will be way better to hold during a bear market but it is

cunning perch
potent sable
#

Less tokens staked. Lower token price = more revdis and more tokens

cunning perch
cunning perch
potent sable
cunning perch
steady trellis
cunning perch
steady trellis
#

Mythical

#

More seriously I don’t think people understand enough the impact of the fiat on ramp of IMX … I saw some announce here and there in projects but surprised illuvium didn’t announced anything

cunning perch
whole saffron
#

!staking @brisk surge here

woven ibexBOT
#

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

  • You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
  • You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
  • You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
  • You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
  • After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

brisk surge
#

cheers

whole saffron
#

there's a tutorial you can watch 🙂

brave viper
#

Hi, I have questions with wallets. About hardware and browser for staking

#

I connected my hardware wallet Trezor in the staking site. But my assets are in my browser wallet that is also connected to the hardware. both of them have the same address

cunning perch
brave viper
cunning perch
last urchin
#

Guys, enlighten me on staking v2 I heard about, please

keen grotto
#

I know this has probably been asked a thousand times, but where can I unstake my flexible ILV tokens?

atomic lagoon
gloomy gazelle
#

!scam

woven ibexBOT
#

This is a reminder to never give out your private key (12 to 24 word seed phrase) to anyone.
Nobody in the team will ever ask you to send ETH. There has been increasing activity of DMs in this Discord related to scams and fake giveaways.

Any giveaways/promotions will be announced on official channels. Not in Discord DMs. #🚨❗〕report-scammers in the linked section with a screenshot of the message you got in DM's. Also include the "@ username" in text and we will ban them. We are growing fast and there are targeted scams going around. Only trust links from official channels.

gloomy gazelle
#

Guys watch out for DMs. They are scams and they impersonate ppl. Here's how to find out you are being scammed:

1). The Suffix (Illuvimod) and (Illuvium) are server based. Means they do not show in DMs. So if anyone like ( Arash | Illuvimod) DMed you, it's scam.

  1. Also, most of our names are white listed. Meaning if anyone uses our names for their profile, they will be banned by bots. This means, there is always an inconsistency with the names.

  2. Just click on the names and compare. Everyone has a unique ID.

  3. Turn off your DMs so you wouldn't come to us saying you've been scammed.

  4. Illuvium’s website is with (.io) not (.com)

  5. Keep in mind scammers also use colored dots in their description to impersonate mods

  6. they will always send you screenshots of mod’s profiles to fool you so you wouldn't click on names

golden shale
#

hey guys, I have 1 ILV token staked in the core pool and for more than 2 months I have earned 0.02 That amount however has not moved for about 2-3 weeks... Do I need to claim that in order to continue earning from staking? If so, the gas fee is double that amount.... any insight in that regard?

cunning perch
gloomy gazelle
#

You don’t need to claim them though. It should keep accruing

golden shale
#

thanks for the quick answers, guys. all the best

junior nacelle
#

Hello guys, confused about something... If I want to stake ILV in the SLP pool, do I need to have an EQUAL amount of ILV and ETH in order to stake? As in, if I want to stake 10 ILV, do I need to ALSO have the same amount of ETH? Thanks

final steppe
junior nacelle
#

Oh damn... Ok... Didn't know that

final steppe
#

Some more info on the SLP Staking process below! 🙂

woven ibexBOT
#

Providing liquidity for ILV is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires a few different steps compared to staking only ILV. These steps are the following:

If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained

junior nacelle
#

So just to confirm, if I just went out and bought 10k usd worth of ILV with the purpose of staking that ILV in the SLP pool, then, I would ALSO have to go out and buy 10k usd worth of Ethereum in order to do so?

final steppe
junior nacelle
#

Ok

#

I just didn't know that, it means I'll essentially only be able to stake half as much ILV as I thought I could, since I'll need to now sell half of the ILV I bought in order to buy the same amount in Ethereum

final steppe
# junior nacelle I just didn't know that, it means I'll essentially only be able to stake half as...

Ah, yeah. That's correct. You could still stake all of the ILV you currently have in the ILV only core pool although as you see between the two core pools, the returns are higher with the SLP pool. The decision is up to you!

Just be sure you understand the concept of impermanent loss that comes with liquidity providing so there are no surprises or shocks ***if ***a time ever comes for you to withdraw your ILV/ETH from Sushi.

junior nacelle
#

Ah ok got it thanks for the info... Can I ask, is it possible that impermanent loss may result in making the returns from the SLP pool LOWER than the returns from the ILV only pool at the end of the 52 weeks I lock them up for?

dusk gorge
#

It could if ILV moon more than the APY given for SLP

junior nacelle
#

Ah ok... So it's possible that the less risky, ILV only pool could offer higher gains than the riskier SLP pool 52 weeks from now? Because of the facts that 1. The SLP pool suffers from the possibility of impermanent loss, and 2. The fact that you'd have to invest half of what you COULD have invested in the SLP pool than the ILV only pool, for the reason that the SLP pool requires an equal amount of ETH to ILV? Very confusing!

next ruin
junior nacelle
#

Oh ok, interesting

#

Can I ask what staking pool you'd personally recommend at this point? Not financial advise, I know

junior nacelle
#

Oh and also, for the SLP pool, if I staked for example 1k usd worth of ILV and 1k usd worth of eth, for a total of 2k usd staked in the pool, would I earn APY interest on just the 1k worth of ILV, or would the interest be applied to both the 1k of ILV AND the 1k of eth? Thanks so much

wheat kestrel
gentle axle
#

Soo would restaking our Revdis as SLP be a good technique you think, in the future?

gentle axle
#

My bad @wheat kestrel I overlooked your response, cheers

junior nacelle
#

Ohh ok... Then I feel like it would always make more sense to go the SLP pool over the ILV only pool, in my opinion

next ruin
junior nacelle
#

I just didn't know that I needed equal amounts of eth and ILV for SLP pool

next ruin
#

Long term strategy depends on a lot of unknowns, how many unlocked ILV will ape into SLP? How much revenue will actually be coming in? Etc.

junior nacelle
#

This is beyond my pea brain lol

next ruin
#

But, for now SLP is definitely still worth it

junior nacelle
#

Will sell half my ILV for eth now 😆

next ruin
junior nacelle
#

Oh yea, about that, do u know if the v2 staking will fix that? I heard somewhere v2 staking would remove gas fees, or something

next ruin
junior nacelle
#

Oh wow that's amazing, thanks so much

candid kite
#

hello i am new here what is Staking means?

cunning perch
junior nacelle
#

What nano ledger do u guys recommend to use in conjunction with metamask for staking? Nano ledger s, or nano ledger x?

junior nacelle
#

Awesome thank u

muted plaza
#

Hi, I have rewards to claim from both ILV and sushi LP pools. I only have a small amount of non-LP rewards to claim so I don't want to waste gas on it. However, the UI only allows to claim both. Any advice?

cunning perch
muted plaza
cunning perch
brisk surge
#

Hey guys is that the good time for start staking or is it better to wait v2 ?

cunning perch
final steppe
#

Wondering whether to stake in v1 or wait for v2? A word from the wise 🙂

brisk surge
cunning perch
brisk surge
#

😂😂

#

It means if we have invested more than 300$ is better to stake now ? Can someone explain me the why ? I wanna understand

final steppe
cunning perch
willow vapor
willow vapor
cunning hound
#

is there a way to stake sILV?

next ruin
junior nacelle
#

Hello all... While our ILV is being staked, it cannot be inside of a hardware wallet, right? It will be residing on the cloud, or smart contract, or something like that? Thanks all

mystic thorn
junior nacelle
#

Ah ok thank u... Hope no hacks occur while funds are staked for such a long period of time 😆

next ruin
junior nacelle
next ruin
junior nacelle
#

Thanks guys!! Really appreciate the fantastic support 👍

next ruin
junior nacelle
loud anchor
#

I need to claim what is better ? Claim now or wait v2 ?

next ruin
cyan rampart
#
  • DM = SCAM 🙂
delicate plaza
#

I'm also looking to stake with a hardware wallet - I imagine I just send my SLP tokens to my ledger erc20 address and then access it via Metamask integration to stake from there? Can anyone confirm this?

unborn solar
#

Has anyone noticed a significant decrease in their ILV earned per day? I'm earning about 60% of the ILV I use to earn 4-5 months ago. Is this going to happen every few months?

delicate plaza
silent cedar
unborn solar
#

I know the APY is down from before but it doesn't seem to be down enough to earn 40% less. I didn't think the price would effect it but maybe it does. I'm going to keep an eye on it

topaz acorn
#

I think it costed me more in fees to stake then my potential return in a year lol

elder dawn
junior nacelle
maiden chasm
#

What is the minimum amount worth steaking?

livid light
#

Depends on the individual really and the gas cost for it

#

A few hundred might not be worth it to go SLP pool but I would just buy and stake ILV for RevDis

elder dawn
# maiden chasm What is the minimum amount worth steaking?

this also depends on your time horizon. at a minimum you'll have staking and unstaking fees. the longer you plan to be staked, the lower "reasonable" becomes. if you only have a little to stake, consider waiting for staking v2 coming soon, which will lower fees

errant forge
#

hi

maiden chasm
next ruin
# maiden chasm Appreciate the answer guys. Thank you. What is RevDis?

The tokenomics of this DAO include a 100% revenue distribution (could be subject to change - DAO governance). This means that any kind of revenue generated through sales or in-game revenue is distributed back to holders of staked ILV. The same max supply of 10 Million ILV will be used for this purpose regardless of how many games the DAO develops.

Revenue distribution is paid out in the form of unlocked ILV and the payout is done multiple times a week without a fixed schedule. Before paying out revenue distribution, the vault converts ETH spent in-game into ILV by buying it off the market which puts buying pressure on the ILV token and thus supports its price development.

feral olive
next ruin
willow ore
#

Do i understand it correct the vault is only distributed to the ILV staking pool and not SLP?

wheat kestrel
fleet island
#

Someone can tell me why this is staying in pending ??

scenic crescent
#

every transaction need some time, based on the Gasprice u set

fleet island
#

hmm yeah i know that, but it's long and i put suffisant gas

#

How long can that take ?

scenic crescent
#

my last one took 4-5min too, I would give thought to it if it needs longer then ~15-30min

fleet island
#

it still 5min

scenic crescent
#

u can take a look in the TxN

fleet island
#

fking ledger is buging i think

cunning perch
# fleet island fking ledger is buging i think

It's not Ledger. The moment you confirm something in Ledger is out in ETH scan. You can add gas. I guess you had set gas to a point and it spiked and now you don't have enough to cover it. You can either wait, or speed up

runic widget
#

Quick question. Is it bad to stake your ILV if its not connected to your ledger?

#

Or cold wallet i mean

scenic crescent
#

depends if u trust the cold wallet more or not

cunning perch
scenic crescent
#

but as long as u dont give away your keys or do phishing updates it shoulld be safe

runic widget
#

I just staked my first ILV but didn’t connect it to my cold wallet was wondering if i should unstake it connect it then restake but thats a bitch to do

cunning perch
obsidian nebula
#

so i'm not sure i'm understanding V2 migration correctly. everything i have staked is locked for at least another 9 months or so. does that mean that i will be stuck on v1 for those staked funds untill it unlocks?

and so if i want to add funds in v2 staking, i will be using 2 separate platforms?

keen burrow
#

hi all 🙂 got a question. i dont want a financial advice. just for understanding. would u guys if u invest like 3k, stake in lp pool or normal ilv pool? someone knows how much fees it costs if i am supply liquidity for slp on uniswap? is it possible that its cost like 600USD fees? just for supply liquidity on uniswap? 😮
and how much fees does it cost just for swap eth to sILV? which way to get sILV is the cheapest one?

obsidian nebula
delicate cloak
#

Do your staking transactions at times of low gas. Check some online trackers which show the peak and off peak hours. You can at least save some money that way.

#

If you want to stake, I'd do core with 3k, NFA of course. But if you want land, I'd buy sILV

surreal loom
# keen burrow hi all 🙂 got a question. i dont want a financial advice. just for understanding...

To be honest, I wouldn’t bother staking that amount if your purpose is to get silv as rewards for land or in game use (triple your Eth instantly), just buy silv on uniswap (cheap cheap) and pay one gas fee.
If you’re wanting to stake for revdis purposes, I suggest saving at least 15k and throwing in SLP for max weight. You will pay multiple gas fees to stake and every time you claim rewards you will pay three lots of gas (worth it if you have a big bag to stake)

keen burrow
cunning perch
woven ibexBOT
#

The tokenomics of this DAO include a 100% revenue distribution (could be subject to change - DAO governance). This means that any kind of revenue generated through sales or in-game revenue is distributed back to holders of staked ILV. The same max supply of 10 Million ILV will be used for this purpose regardless of how many games the DAO develops.

Revenue distribution is paid out in the form of unlocked ILV and the payout is done multiple times a week without a fixed schedule. Before paying out revenue distribution, the vault converts ETH spent in-game into ILV by buying it off the market which puts buying pressure on the ILV token and thus supports its price development.

surreal loom
keen burrow
#

Ooo alright. so u think the invest its below 15k dont stake in SLP? sorry my english isnt that good

#

but staking just ilv its also nice because we can get sILV for ingame progress right?

surreal loom
keen burrow
#

so stake SLP - take rewards in ILV - stake it normal and get sILV as reward? that sounds intresting

surreal loom
keen burrow
#

sILV for game use for sure

surreal loom
# keen burrow sILV for game use for sure

If I were in your position then I would buy 3k of silv off uniswap, the correct address should be pinned in the token Chanel or @cunning perch can link you to it. Then save like crazy and stake that other 12k in SLP before it’s too far out of reach haha

cunning perch
#

Sorry

#

!contract

woven ibexBOT
#

ILV Token: 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
ETH/ILV SLP Token: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
sILV Token: 0x398aea1c9ceb7de800284bb399a15e0efe5a9ec2

cunning perch
#

2:30 and I got a brain heart attack

surreal loom
cunning perch
keen burrow
keen burrow
surreal loom
keen burrow
#

should i swap it directly from eth? or are there any way to do it cheaper or so?

surreal loom
#

As far as I’m aware.

obsidian nebula
#

so i'm not sure i'm understanding V2 migration correctly. everything i have staked is locked for at least another 9 months or so. does that mean that i will be stuck on v1 for those staked funds untill it unlocks?

and so if i want to add funds in v2 staking, i will be using 2 separate platforms?

atomic lagoon
vital kayak
limber stirrup
#

When is ILV V2 ?

vital frigate
limber stirrup
#

Should i buy ILV to stake in V2?

quasi oyster
#

hey guys any way to know what is the price of 1 lp token ILV/ETH? any website or calculator to do so ?

obsidian nebula
atomic lagoon
obsidian nebula
atomic lagoon
brisk surge
quasi oyster
#

ty appreciated 🙂

atomic lagoon
obsidian nebula
gentle axle
#

Do we know how this dip will be affecting the staking API?

atomic lagoon
gentle axle
atomic lagoon
marble heath
#

hi! has anyone tried to swap slp (axie) to ilv on sushiswap?

atomic lagoon
marble heath
jovial root
opaque coral
#

Hey guys, do we have a rough estimate as to when staking v2 comes out?

opaque coral
#

Thanks!

brisk surge
marble heath
#

Thank you so much everyone ❤️ I'll try to look it up a little bit too.

brisk surge
light current
#

guy can I know how to withdraw from staking ?

light current
brisk surge
light current
#

not locked

brisk surge
#

Flexible?

light current
#

yes

brisk surge
#

I don't made it, so i think you must go to staking, unlock or something in the vesting section , claim all rewards and go. 🤷‍♂️

#

The rewards stay there after for 12 months

light current
#

when i with drwa I need to wtihdraw ILV or sILV ?

#

I am at the claim page and they ask me to claim reward which one should I claim ?

brisk surge
#

You withdraw what you stake so ilv. You can claim rewards in silv or ilv but still stay there for 12 months

#

Not in the reward page, go to vesting and unlock and claim from there (i think)

light current
#

some one once mention if you with draw one of the either sILV or ILV both will get withdraw, but if I only withdrwa the wrong one .. I need to withdrwa twice

#

I want to know which to with draw I don't want to with drwa the wrong onw

brisk surge
#

Better wait someone, that have flexible stake.

#

What di you want ti do with? What's the plan?

#

Sell or land?

brisk surge
light current
#

SLP pool .. I with draw so Now I need to so sushi swap ? I forgot how to swap it back ?

brisk surge
#

Go to sushi pool website with your slp token und, i think, ''remove liquidity''

light current
#

but why I did not see SLP token in my wallet ?

#

I type SLP in the sushi swap it show me smooth love potion ?

brisk surge
#

Witch wallet? Maybe you need to add it manually the smart contrat on it. But you don't need it, go to the sushi pool, it will find. It

light current
#

Metamask

brisk surge
#

You need to go one the ilv/eth pool

#

and liquidity section

light current
#

yes thanks I saw it I just need to paste to the correct Chrome .. I have 2 ...it went to the wrong one

brisk surge
#

Done?

light current
# brisk surge Done?

yes almost .. I set a low gas so waiting ... really thank for you help. @dull quartz straight away DM me and suggest me to cnnect to celo wallet ... scammer !!!

#

I told him why you can't reply me in discord ..

brisk surge
#

Yeb scammer!

light current
#

I reported never mind ..

#

I report under report-scammer ..

brisk surge
#

I saw it

light current
#

I do not want others to fall prey to scammers hiding in here

#

the most scammer are the one hiding in rarity sniper NFT discord... no matter which project has mint I received DM from that discord's scammer to informed I am WL and mint links and all .. I always report to rarity sniper and they really appreciates me. every time I report they will Ban and tag me so I know those bots are banned

coral pike
#

PSA: It would be in your best intrest to turn off DM's in discord setting - Any DM about Illvium or any offer to "help" by DM is a SCAM

torn onyx
#

I have a question for you all, regarding the staking of Sushi LP.
I staked a fixed term Sushi LP about a month ago.
This time I decided to do a second staking, so I created a SushiLp again and started staking.
However, the staking process did not complete even after 24 hours.
It is still marked as being in process on my PC.

”Before you can stake, you first have to claim your existing rewards in this pool. You will be asked to confirm these in your wallet."
I got a message saying

I tried to claim the rewards.
so
"You will now claim any rewards in the ILV pool, followed by any rewards in the Sushi LP pool
You'll be asked to approve these transactions in your wallet".
I got a message

And
The transaction is being processed on your PC.

It's been 24 hours.

Does anyone know what to do?

silent arrow
#

probably you didn t put eniough gas, exemple, you let metamask decide, and the previous block was 100 gas, so metamask putted around that.
then for next block gas picked up and never went back yet to the amount you set.
your tx will be queuded and can take very long to get fullfilled.

2 solutions
waiting as long as it need to go down in gas
speed up the process by adding more gas (the speed up option in MM)

cyan rampart
# torn onyx I have a question for you all, regarding the staking of Sushi LP. I staked a fix...

It's probably the scenario Hiroo described - If your wallet's gas price was too low, the transaction may not have completed. You can check the gas price the transacton was set for on Etherscan.

If all else fails, you could do a nonce cancellation (there's a guide for this on Metamask's help page). I'd avoid doing this unless everything else fails - If your claim transaction goes through, but not your staking transaction, you'll have to claim again to try and stake.

mortal ledge
#

hi yall. I have a question about staking. Since gas fees are so ridiculously high, what amount of ETH do you consider as enough volume for me to stake?

cyan rampart
#

You can use it to figure out exactly how much ETH all your transactions will cost when gas is "X"

light current
light current
# mortal ledge hi yall. I have a question about staking. Since gas fees are so ridiculously hig...

check gas now .. since staking there is no time limit you can follow this. use the adjust max gas method and wait. on the Metamask page, right head side top corner , click the EDIT. scroll down to the bottom find MAX FEE , adjust it till you see around $90/NFT and save it. Let it run for a few hours until it is done. if not done, find it and speed it up , maybe adjst the MXA Fee to $100. $100 should get done . DO NOT adjust other fee only MAX FEE !!!

fair wharf
#

Been a while since I swapped eth for ILV, whats the best to use? Sushi? 1inch?

cyan rampart
lament harness
#

When a locked pool stake of sILV ends and is available for withdrawal, what happens if I just leave it there? Does it still continue to earn at the lower 1x rate?

atomic lagoon
lament harness
atomic lagoon
lament harness
#

Thanks!

#

V2 is hopefully before the land sale....

atomic lagoon
cyan rampart
ancient elk
#

Is it better to stake in the Slp Pool now or wait till V2 is coming?
I trust in this game and will always retake for years^^
Would I get more if I start now with the current (Staking/Pool) 😳 or how called😆 and upgrade to V2 or just wait for V2??
Thx if anyone can HELP meAtlas_Love

cyan rampart
ancient elk
#

Thank u so much👍 👍 😆

brisk surge
autumn cloak
brisk surge
smoky nest
#

Hello! I need help. I have a coinbaseWallet. I link it on the illivium website. When I want to start staking, it requires to first get the approval with the wallet. I click approve on the prompt, but after a few seconds it says that the signature failed

cunning perch
smoky nest
#

In this wallet, I have about 1.5 ILV and thats it

cunning perch
#

I guess it should cost you arounf $80-$150 maybe more maybe less

smoky nest
#

Thank you very much.

hushed spindle
#

hello all,
quick question:
if you stake Sushi LP as locked even if for 1 week ... your rewards are vested for a year?
is this the same for flexible stake of Sushi LP. would your rewards not be vested for a year that way?

cunning perch
hushed spindle
#

copy that... thank you for the very quick response. 👍

vague ingot
#

Hey, can we stake through binance smart chain?

cunning perch
vague ingot
#

I see, thank you

quartz hull
#

I know it’s hard to tell but say u put in $100 usd how much could that potentially be worth in a year

cunning perch
quartz hull
#

Ye buying and holding what would it kind of be like

muted zealot
#

guys can anyone explain the difference between staking the ILV vs. staking ETH/ILV with Sushi LP?

cunning perch
muted zealot
#

like with the APY on the Eth/ILV, are you still participating in the underlying price action of eth and ilv when you withdraw it, but also get that APY on your ILV?

vague ingot
#

what are the current gas fee if I want to stake sushi LP rn?

muted zealot
#

like the apy is much higher on ilv/eth, so why wouldnt you choose that one?

cunning perch
smoky nest
cunning perch
smoky nest
#

Thank you again. You are one very helpful Illuvimod.

muted zealot
#

ive been watching the vids and saw the links, thank you. given these things are you guys more comfortable staking simply the ILV or have you gone the sushi lp ilv/eth route?

#

i think i kind of understand the impermanent loss as the main con of the sushi lp route, however is it not that bad and do you still participate in eth and ilv price appreciation once youve withdrawn?

atomic lagoon
muted zealot
#

cool, and when you go to withdraw the SLP, do you get the same amount of eth and ilv back so you participated in both those tokens price trajectories in the meantime?

atomic lagoon
# muted zealot cool, and when you go to withdraw the SLP, do you get the same amount of eth and...

the SLP price increases with the ILV and ETH price increases. But you will most likely not get back the same number of token when you withdraw. I am not very good at explaining this so may be this video will help.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XJ1MSTEuU0&t=4s

Have you ever provided liquidity to a liquidity pool just to realise that some of your coins have gone missing? In this video, we’ll learn what “impermanent loss” is and how it can affect liquidity providers’ profits.

In essence, impermanent loss is a temporary loss of funds occurring when providing liquidity. It’s very often explained as a di...

▶ Play video
muted zealot
#

yeah dude i appreciate your input and understand. i watched that same vid

#

i understand about 50% of it but get a little lost in the complexities. it doesnt break down from a general sense how bad impermanent loss can be

muted zealot
#

oh thats pretty cool

muted zealot
#

so once you stake SLP, thats basically the price chart you can monitor to see how its doing?

muted zealot
#

so like you basically dont get the full price appreciation opportunity of eth and ilv while its staked because arbitragers in the liquidity pool are actually getting more of that by using your liquidity, but thats why you get paid 400+%?

muted zealot
#

awesome thanks for explaining!

severe sequoia
#

Do we know when V2 staking is coming out? I’m waiting on that to start

severe sequoia
#

Thanks Arash! If I have 0.5 ILV is that worth enough to stake? I’m planning on getting another 0.5-1.5 but I’m not sure what my timeline is yet

atomic lagoon
severe sequoia
# atomic lagoon Personally, I won’t go for staking if my budget is lower than $3000. With the hi...

That mostly makes sense, thank you for the reply!! I would probably be right around the minimum you’re suggesting. I want to dca another $3-5k over the next month or two depending on how much prices fluctuate. I’m hoping to add another $1.5k before V2 comes out along with the 0.5 ILV I have currently. Would that scenario deem it close to your minimum of $3k to stake? Is there a minimum token amount you’d recommend? $3k is ~2.2 ILV atm, so does that mean if I get another 1.7 I should stake with V2? Thank you!!

willow vapor
fresh gale
cyan rampart
# severe sequoia That mostly makes sense, thank you for the reply!! I would probably be right aro...

On your budget, I'd accumulate and wait to see what revdis numbers look like. I'm not expecting a MASSIVE amount from the first land sale, so I don't think you'll miss out much revdis-wise. Personally, I think staking the SLP soon is super advisable - Come about August 2022, I think the APY will be getting fairly diluted in both staking pools, as staking rewards will be finishing vesting, and the token unlocks from seed/preseed/team will be something like 2/5 unlocked. Taking advantage of the 300-400% APY in the SLP before March/April is super advisable IMO.

TL;DR: Accumulate, stake SLP once you have 3-4k to invest. NFA, just my opinions.

dusty dock
#

Although I'm wondering, will the transition to v2 affect our staked tokens at all? Is there anything we need to do? Or will the contracts be transfered over or something?

cyan rampart
nocturne ferry
#

Just a single as well?

livid light
#

Just listen to the advice of Aaron and players in the crypto space. Pay the fee and migrate to enjoy the long term benefits 🙂 I am not an expert but if your invested long term its there

#

IMO if he is steering us wrong about moving to V2 we have MUCH larger problems Atlas_Love

cyan rampart
severe sequoia
#

Will APY percents change with V2?

#

(And what are they currently?)

#

I’m waiting until V2 to stake

cunning perch
# severe sequoia Will APY percents change with V2?

APY will be as it has always been. It will change and mostly drop or change with price movement. It doesn’t affect the rewarding Ratio. There is a calculator made by @elder dawn that can help you it is pinned in messages in the channel.

severe sequoia
#

Awesome thanks again!

grizzled kindle
#

Do I need to do much for staking v2 when it launches

cunning perch
grizzled kindle
cunning perch
midnight prawn
#

It i stake for 5 weeks

#

Will it be autostaked normally afterwards for free withdraw?

cunning perch
midnight prawn
#

Thanks, will do

brisk surge
#

will it be worth it staking 1 ILV conciddering the eth gas prices?

#

Also should I buy some sILV for when the game goes live or I will be just fine with ETH?

autumn cloak
#

For Staking V2, I know it is optional to claim rewards when upgrading a locked stake. However, my rewards will probably be where I would want to claim them by the time V2 is released, so can I upgrade my SLP stake and claim rewards in the same transaction? Would that cost more gas?

manic hawk
#

Guys quick question, can I switch my Wallet adress related to my staking, to another wallet ?

brisk surge
brisk surge
brisk surge
#

also will you need to stake a full ILV to be abel to vote in the DAO?

manic hawk
brisk surge
manic hawk
#

Yes I was, I trasnfered most of it tho, but my stake in unfortunalty still in the wallet

brisk surge
#

do you use Metamask? i feel like it is not save to use..

manic hawk
brisk surge
#

i have Ledger.. is it posible to stake with this hardwear wallet?

manic hawk
brisk surge
#

ahh oke!

brisk surge
#

I don't see ledger as a option to use to stake?

#

it's the first time im going to stake a coin so bit confusing everything

#

I see trezor as option, but not Ledger

brisk surge
brisk surge
coral pike
brisk surge
coral pike
coral pike
brisk surge
inland timber
#

if I stake for a locked period of time, after that time expires does it convert into flexible automatically, or will I have to re-stake (and pay another fee)?

cyan rampart
spice hemlock
#

if we have our ILV rewards vested as ILV, is it too late to swap them for sILV when this land sale comes up

cyan rampart
spice hemlock
#

figured. thanks

brisk surge
#

does anyone else have a issue when claiming, i do it weekly and today again i claimed both ILV and SLP and i had the ILV processed but not the SLP. this is costing a fortune in gas with these fups.

keen ridge
#

If our V1 stake unlocks is it possible to migrate to V2 and it still earn rewards and revdis unlocked or are we going to have to lock it in again when migrating?

coral pike
brisk surge
#

yes i do it every week, claim both rewards at once

#

i dread doing it tbh

coral pike
#

NFA V2 will e comming soon there is an option to wait

brisk surge
#

wish the team had forseen the issues with using ETH, going for your second $200 transaction cost is stressful

fresh gale
#

just claim less often

jovial root
gentle axle
#

Would it be a good move to invest in IMX too then.. I guess lol

jovial root
jovial root
#

This shows 29 different different locations to buy or trade it

gentle axle
jovial root
gloomy mountain
#

Hi everyone… My SLP staking period ended today. I wish I would have set it for longer. However do I need to restake the SLP to keep earning rewards?

coral pike
gloomy mountain
#

Are you familiar with how to do the upgrade to v2?

coral pike
brisk surge
#

guys im haviing a issue that i have never encounted before. is there a admin i could dm?

rare oar
#

hello, question. If I stake my ILV for 4 weeks. Do i need to withdraw after to earn more?

agile ginkgo
coral pike
delicate plaza
# gentle axle Where can you buy IMX btw?

What's the process for restaking my SLP tokens for a higher apy? Do I need to pay gas for claiming my rewards, then pay gas to unstake, and then pay again to restake?

delicate plaza
atomic lagoon
coral pike
quaint nest
#

Hello kinda people of the staking chat, I got two small question, when I decided to stake I choose my payout in ILV, can I claim the pending rewards in sILV even though I chose ILV ? and I know it depends but how often do you guys claim rewards, I'am staking in both ILV and sushi swap pools so I have to claim both, what amount on the sushi and what amount on the ILV do you think its worth it to pay gas to claim the rewards ? thank you so much for helping me. 🙂

atomic lagoon
# quaint nest Hello kinda people of the staking chat, I got two small question, when I decided...

Hi mate. You choose what you want to claim ILV or sILV only when you make the claim so you can decide which one you want whenever you claim.
If you are stake in both pool, I would recommend to wait for v2 to claim. In v2, you can claim the both pool at the same time. so this will only cost you 1 gas instead of 2.
I normally claim when the rewards when the gas fee is 1% - 5% of my accumulated rewards. NFA of course.
cheers! 🙂

quaint nest
delicate plaza
#

Does anyone here currently stake from a cold wallet like ledger? To do so did you need to migrate a metamask wallet onto the ledger or can you send your ILV/SLP tokens to your Ledger address and access it by linking through metamask? hope that makes sense

alpine glade
#

I am trying to send some ILV from crypto.com to my Metamask to have it ready to stake. I should be using the ETH address on my MM correct? I am getting an error when I try to add the wallet address to crypto.com

delicate plaza
#

This was a comment on reddit that got me confused about using a ledger "Yes you can link your hardware wallet with metamask and use funds from your ledger to buy or sell via MM. But you can't store ILV on your ledger. Not yet anyway."

brisk surge
#

i seem to have a issue with my rewards processing. In my transaction history i have 2 rewards confirming as processed on the blockchain, however on my dashboard the rewards remain unclaimed. Does any one know how i resolve this please? Was a few hours ago and still nothing has fixed.

#

scammers dont bother dm me

broken herald
#

how much ilv reward do you wait to have before claiming?

brisk surge
#

2.4 between the two pools

broken herald
#

gas is low right now but even then i am hesitant to claim my 1.96 ilv reward, would take a month to make back the fees with the 36% APY

#

what's your reasoning behind 2.4 ?

brisk surge
#

Yeah I have large portion in SLP

#

Im still having issues as well. Just had my 5th failed transaction so I think im waiting for monday to see if carlos has any ideas before I try again.

broken herald
#

i'm only in SLP so far

brisk surge
#

For the last 3 weeks I've had failed transactions

broken herald
#

in some way ETH is cheaper right now so that is like paying less fees, but on the other end "selling" ETH right now is a bad time