#🥩〕staking
1 messages · Page 26 of 1
On it 😂
Must find pics and class/type info
Pics of fused forms or class/type/morphology?
Kk
aha nice
glad I didn't steer you into failed transactions
I was sweating. Still cost me like $50 to claim
Pending forever is a big oof. Eth needs to get with the PoS.
I like fast feeless crypto. Not used to whale snail chains.
Ok so there’s no point to claim them right ? Only gas fee
Or is there a way to compound ?
when you claim the reward it gets compounded... vested into the ILV only pool at 2x weight for 12 months
Oh nice !
Thanks for the answers, appreciated
this original looks so wimpy after seeing the edited one so many times 😆
yeah you did some sick work
so will the new XYZ pool launch in the next 2 hours or later?
That would be plenty I'd think... that APY is gonna be pretty high
prob not Trigger
no it'll be closer to 24 hours
they did say roughly about 24h
idd, in about a day, but no official eta is what I understood.
that's highly dependant on the pools APY
i made some calcs and atm with my estimates i would prob be better off selling the XYZ stack that i have instead of staking
but i need to see that APY again when it starts
The APY was ~1.200% for quite a while after staking began. Still not worth if that (unlikely) would stay all 14d?
i did my math based on a 1200% APY over a 14 days stake vs selling XYZ at current price
the ILV amount in the end was less (price wise) and also vested for 12 months vs having 35% more in USDC now if i sell the XYZ
Interesting.
but i don't have a massive XYZ bag
I only got like 4750 as well but since I already staked once and need to withdraw now, I'm just gonna re-stake and hope for some nice gains that somehow make up for it. Maybe by having a higher XYZ sell price afterwards on top or something 🙂
that's what i hope for also..also like your case i have to withdraw now also
XYZ had a pretty wild pump these past 2 days
i think it will retrace a bit soon
so decisions decisions ....
i am probably gonna keep going with the stake also and just sell XYZ after if the price holds
if not ..back to DAO with it
Is anybody bullish on XYZ to hold after the staking period is over. I seen Delphi had a podcast with the co-founders. Havent listened to it yet
What is XYZ???
i think a lot will depend on the APR for the flash pool
at 700% it might be worth it for some people to buy and farm
I was thinking the same, selling shortly before staking period is over if XYZ did multiples, convert to ILV and up my ILV pool. Ill look more into it and decide but there's a few good options forsure
i would call it a nice recovery 🙂
When you claim ILV rewards does it compound automatically or is there another step to add the rewards to your pool?
most of us haven't bought it ..we farmed it with ILV before the in house staking started
so we don't have a huge amount of it
i mean most of us
and a lot just dumped it after every epoch to buy ILV
y i guess so ..hence it had a nice starting price
when u claim they get vested for 12 months and if u claim more than once(obv with a big XYZ bag u can have a nice return) yes, they get auto compound
Anduro is math guy 👏
yeah makes sense. I bought in in anticipation, but sold it already. I made what I would have made with staking for 2 weeks at 700%, so i just lokced it on
in
lol here we are talking about gains and shit and mother mainnet and father crypto just take a shit in our porridge
XYZ is falling from the tree haha
lol?
From 0.22 to 0.16 that fast? Man, their low market cap really makes it super volatile
Guess I'm gonna stake first for sure now 🙂
its getting cheaper now hehe
lol i just realised XYZ don't even have 1k holders
and i bet more than half are from our community lol
i guess we could get a sweet deal in the staking ..all considered
anyway ..enough about stakes and gains and all this money and wealth nonsense ...netflix and chill
i'm still on holiday for god sake
😂
Enjoy! 🙂
new pool has not been deployed - wait for announcement
There’s a lot of holders staked I’m sure.
But that just means it’s off the market
But probably not as many as ILV has
Woo, just staked my first 10 ILV
hey guys
how does it work with staking SUSHI LP into the Core Pool?
because I just bought some SUSHI, but it doesnt show on the Illuvium site
Xyz staking live yet?
not yet.. not everyone has withdrawn from the previous pool..
That will not be the deciding factor. I’m afraid Some people will still be on the old one while the new one becomes active.
oh.. i think thats better.. they can start with the new one while the other is still active.. but i thot aaron said they had to get everyone out first? or did i miss something?
Ah yes. But it only says that they don’t WANT to start while people are still on the old one. #xyz message
They could and might have to
you went in ahead or r u just waiting for the new one to live?
I think you're misunderstanding what the SLP tokens are. It does not involve sushi tokens. There is no way to stake sushi tokens at this time. I'd recommend looking up what liquidity providers are and then come back if you still have questions!
so I'm pretty new to staking, I have some rewards in the rewards tab. is it advisable to claim it or just keep it there for more gains?
depends on the current cost of gas and the amount of rewards you've accumulated.
so if I try to claim it, it will theoretically go to my wallet?
cause I chose the locked option
and I thought I would only be able to claim after 12 months
Once claimed ILV rewards vest after 12 months where they auto-compound until then. If you choose sILV you can use that in game once it launches, but I don't think auto-compounds
So if you locked X tokens for 12 months, after 12 months you can unstake and withdraw them. Rewards can be 'claimed' at any time, but if claiming ILV, those rewards also lock once claimed for 12 months and compound until withdrawn
so claiming it doesn't really mean go to my wallet but instead reinvest for 12 months.
Yes
alright understood. thanks for explaining!
Any advice for claiming when you have some in both LP and Single asset pools? It is my first time doing it and I dont wanna mess up
if you want to claim both claim SLP pool because it will claim for both
otherwise just claim ilv
He said Sushi Liquidiy Provider (LP or SLP) tokens, not Sushi tokens, which is different from each other.
Great thanks!
bruh #🥩〕staking message
Aw, sorry read the 2nd line but scanned the 3rd.
Aw he bought Sushi token T_T
Sushi Liquidiy Provider (LP or SLP) tokens are not Sushi tokens. They are different from each other.
It will run the two claim transactions one after the other. You will need to approve two transactions. Be sure to use the SAME gas speed. It will claim the ILV only rewards first and the SLP rewards second. It’s time between the two transactions that may result in sILV dust. But if the gas is the same it should process both very close together. (Joe, who really seems to know what he’s doing stated that fast is not necessarily needed it’s the same gas price that matter most) I haven’t claimed mine SLP yet. So I don’t have first hand experience.
Thanks!
ur the best
It’d be ideal to have enough rewards in each to want to claim both
waiting for gas to come down to closer to 15 before claiming
you can put through the tx anytime if you arent using the account for anything else
my tx always sit there for a few hours before going through
Sounds like the same happened for @brisk surge it was pending waiting for awhile but went through over night.
Was it for your SLP rewards or something else?
SLP. So it was two queued tx
Did you catch any sILV?
Nope! Actually didn't. Made sure gas was the same for both
There it is folks. It works.
Love it thanks man
Hi I have a question. If my vested amount was unlocked, will I have the option to restake it? I'm trying to avoid gas fees here.
Is the flash pool staking with SYN still openV
You must mean SNX. no. It’s closed
The XYZ flash pool will reopen in less than 24 hours I think.
Is the flash pool a once off? Or opens up weekly?
The currently listed XYZ flashpool had issues. They are making a new one.
The community will propose new flashpools.
The council will vote for them. #809220563397902346
The flash pools last forever 14 days.
Or should
And will likely have more than one chance for SNX staking. But not for awhile.
Okay thanks. I want to find out more about flash pools with SYN. Where can I find that? Or when will a new SYN flash pool open?
Will get to other projects first I’m sure.
Ask in #snx
I don’t hold any SNX
I believe there is a synthetic discord
I’m going to randomly wake up in the middle of night tonight to low gas prices so I can claim
I’ve decided
Therefore it shall be
@daring gale are you looking for this? https://staking.illuvium.io/
Illuvium | Staking
If you’ve got no other transactions you need to do you could set it low and let it process while you sleep
Checkout this starting here… #🥩〕staking message
I know. I saw that. Tried it the other day and had to cancel both transactions which made me feel even worse about not claiming 😢
Very cool that it works like that though
so after staking you get ILV rewards go straight back into the stake or manually claim every day/week/month?
you have to manually claim it. and it will go to ILV pool and vest for 12 months
Yup this
@daring gale sushi LP is for those that hold the sushi liquidity provider token from providing liquidity on sushiswap for ETH/ILV
!swap
You can buy ILV here: https://app.sushi.com/swap?inputCurrency=ETH&outputCurrency=0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
In the swap from section, select which cryptocurrency you would like to trade for ILV. ETH is the main pairing and there will be a slight additional conversion fee for other tokens. Click swap, then confirm swap and a new window will come up in your wallet / Metamask. It is recommended to increase the GWEI a little so your transaction gets through. Optimal GWEI can be found by checking the Gas tracker bot in the discord member list and by checking historical gas prices here: https://etherscan.io/gasTrackeristoricaldata
Go to https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/illuvium and copy the contract address which is 0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e. Click on metamask, scroll down to add new token. Click custom token, paste the contract address there and confirm.
You wouldn’t swap if you wanted to do this you would PROVIDE LIQUIDITY there. When you provide liquidity you get SLP tokens in your wallet. It’s those SLP tokens that you stake on the SLP pool on Illuvium staking site
okay thanks for all the help guys
So if I want to go stake my measely ILV i just lock it in for like 26 weeks, and then I need to go claim the rewards every (how long?)
Claim whenever you see fit, i am waiting for lower gas fees. You also have to claim everytime you stake @daring gale
you can check joe's sheet at pinned msgs if it helps. its up to you to follow
sir @gloomy gazelle . whered ya get the info about the resumption of the XYZ flash pool in 24 hrs? hehe
Only an estimate. But from Aaron
Probably was in mod chat
copy.
I already claimed my SNX rewards but when i try to withdraw it asks me to claim again? why do I need to pay gas for 0 claim before exit the pool?
may be a dumb question, but does the gas fee for staking change depending on how much you're staking / claiming?
Nope
thanks
If you are ilv only pool it's just one tx each time. If you're in both pools or only the slp pool then there will be two tx to claim
yeah i was about to stake on the ILV pool last night but it was something like 30 usd in gas
which i thought was ridiculous, so just going to wait a few days til it comes down
I gotta start using the channels correctly, sorry mate 😩
@coarse harbor the weight shown when looking at the details of a pool are related to the overall yield farming numbers. Without any flash pool active, single $ILV gets 0.2 of all the token rewards, while the LP pool gets 0.8. An active flash pool reduces it a bit for both of them depending how much weight that flash pool gets.
No worries 🙂 You can find more info here as well: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
Ahh perfect, yep that makes sense! Cheers for the knowledge mate, i know you've probably got similar q's asked heaps 😅
I'll give it a read now, thanks again gangsta
ahh makes so much more sense now
"Initial Pool Weight Ratio 96:4
Final Pool Weight Ratio 50:50"
That is related to the Balancer Sale, which has been completed a while back already. You want to loom at the part of "Yield Farming Rewards" in that article related to the staking pools
yea i read on to find that out.
last and final question but it doesn't seem to be covered.
So when you claim the ILV rewards in the sushi lp core pool, i'll technically then be earning rewards on top of them. Does this also apply if i choose to claim as sILV?
sILV are only for in-game use and do NOT provide any additional yield farming rewards or revenue shares. If you want to liquidate your rewards instantly without a lock of 12 months, then you have to chose sILV to pay for some in-game fees but that comes at the price of wavering the benefits of having more $ILV. There is a trade off only you can decide for yourself.
any info when will the new xyz flash staking pool will be active?
Not yet and #xyz 🙂
yep understood, definitely makes sense to me to claim as ilv now and when the game is released maybe claim a week's worth for in game use 😄
you're a wealth of knowledge brother, hope they're paying ya! 😆
Im only going to claim sILV every week now.
Actually might do this.
Makes more sense as i don't know how much ilv/silv you'll need for the game but at $100 a token now i can't see it being too much...otherwise it would prevent a lot of users from playing due to affordibility issues.
How long did you lock up for? I just did a week for a test. But will lock it up for minimum 6 months. Not sure if i want to lock for 12 as i want to add to this bag and don't want to have that amount of eth locked up when/if the market crashes if we have another leg up past the 100k zone
yeah me too i think
wanna buy all the land
Hahaha
Just a quick question, How does an outside project go about getting a “flash pool”?
My question is, how do I unstake from the flash pool?
One option would be to contact Kieran and discuss it with him to see if that project is something that can be put up for vote to the council.
Ok thank you. Just doing a little unofficial scouting atm
seriously how do you unstake?
Vesting page
form the flash pool...
Didnt see your question before
Yes, either from flash pool page I think they added a withdraw button or from the vesting page where you can see your deposits
oh ok, thank you
No withdraw button on flash pool page yet but vesting page has it
Correct! 👍
Were you able to successfully withdraw?
Will eventually just waiting for gas to reduce.
Very basic question…. Where can i find more details about the xyz flash pool? (How long will it run for, how much ILV are allocated to it, can the rewards be claimed at any time or is there some vesting / i think it’s 12 months?… etc)?
Flash pools last 14 days, rewards pile up until claimed. Claiming can be done as sILV (immediately available but only useful to pay for in-game fees) or $ILV (12 months vesting period where they are locked but also staked in ILV pool with a weight of 2.0). XYZ tokens staked can be withdrawn via "Vesting" at any time. Also #xyz 🙂
Thanks, for the quick & detailed answer. Any indication of the amount of ILV rewards that are allocated to the pool for those 14 days?
I saw that number somewhere but don't have it in front of me right now, maybe someone else can jump in here. In general, you can find yield farm specifics here including the weight for both core pools. Flash pools then take a fraction of that yield while running. Not sure what the weight was for XYZ.
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
Yes
Weird trying to add max stake have equal off both not getting anything
Send screenshots so the experts here can diagnose your issue. You can blur out the amounts for security purposes.
You first need to get SLP tokens by LP'in in the Sushi pool here:
https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
“I get an error when trying to claim sILV 'cannot estimate gas; transaction may fail...'. Does anyone know how to resolve this?” Anyone got help for @wise turret ? This was posted in #snx hours ago. I gave only simple help so far
soz, I forgot to reply. I did test and I think the issue may be that too much time is passing between clicking claim and following through in your wallet @wise turret. Are you still seeing the issue?
Thanks Pelican! I only get this problem when I want to claim sILV and not for ILV
I will try again now, but it was almost instant
My man is on it. Noice
I have a quick question you guys might be able to help with. I staked some ILV yesterday, and already have rewards. If I don't touch the rewards, are they automatically compounded in my initial staking pool, or should I claim them as often as possible to restake them? OR am I completely misunderstanding wth i'm doing 😄
You need to claim them for them to compound.
But to save on gas I’d recommend claiming the “right” amount of ILV
Okay, so would it be best to wait until I have at least 1 token before claiming then?
1 FULL token that is
Check pins for some links to calculating spreadsheets
No more like 3+ at this APY
Awesome! Thank you so much for the help
What matter is how much will your claimed tokens earn before your next claim.
It should be more than you gas cost. Because eventually you’ll be able to claim them later at cheaper gas and in a bigger pile
Is there any harm to just let it sit, and accumulate as a reward? Or is that just inefficient for getting a return on investment
It will be fairly minor inefficiency.
You could claim at 10ILV and be fairly sure you’d not be wasting gas.
Hmm, that makes sense
I'm still very new to staking projects, so I really appreciate the suport. I'm excited for this project too, so I want to be sure i'm doing this the right way
And simple to use. You just need to copy the file and run the numbers
Hey man me too. But I’ve certainly been learning a lot
It's a brave new world out there on the internet with projects like these
I still get the message yeah, I can't follow through in my wallet at all btw bc I instantly get the message before metamask even pops up
cannot estimate gas; transaction may fail or may require manual gas limit (error={"code":-,"message":"execution reverted: insufficient privileges (ROLE_TOKEN_CREATOR required)","data":{"originalError":{"code":3,"data":"0x","message":"execution reverted: insufficient privileges (ROLE_TOKEN_CREATOR required)"}}}, method="estimateGas", transaction={"from":"0x","to":"0x","data":"0x","accessList":null}, code=UNPREDICTABLE_GAS_LIMIT, version=providers/5.4.0)
This is the message I receive with all the data blocked out
Ah shoot. What wallet are you using?
Just a standard ethereum wallet on metamask
connected with a ledger, if that makes any difference
Yeah tried that as well, same problem
Yea likely, we'll take a look mate and get back to you asap
ok great :)!
Ah I thought this info might be better suited for thi channel. Ok, here some data regarding ILV and SLP_ILV stakers. Seems like we have quite some LARPers here 😅 . Just kidding, but nonetheless interesting that not many people are keen on locking tokens longer term.
And here Sushi Pool
Sushi amount is in SLP. so you would have to convert it to the respective ETH/ILV values if you wanna know the exact numbers
yeah, thats understandable i guess.. not everybody reads as much or observes how the community grows or even just read the white papers. majority still fear the speculation. 👽
yeah i guess, almost makes me wanna lock it up for 2 years because most people just dont lock it up at all
these guys in the june 2022 unlock were those that got the heads up and i think were the early birds.. quite the bullish ones..
Thanks for the charts! I also thought a lot more people would have tokens locked
yeah looks like it, and i feel like it is the smart move now with most people not locking anything
Higher risk higher reward. Only thing that would suck for locking if ILV did 20x before the unlock period is done and can't take profits. But once unlocking period is done you can leave the tokens in there at the same weight. they don't lose pool weight until you withdrawal even after the locking period which is really cool
hehehe.. until its surefire for the project or that the marlet tells so, the majority will still stay away from the far end.. 😀 and im cool woth that..
Your welcome. Yeah it was also a surprise for me. I thought it would have more pronounced spikes around december wehn beta launch was anticipated
Yeah seems sensible. I dont think locking in for 1 year now is best, but something like 8-10 months might give a good compromise of higher return and felxibility
yeah, or maybe just make it halfway or so.. we surely cannot predict the future.. but wealth usually favors thoae that think differently..
yeah i think i like something around 8-10 months most now. have to play around a bit wit the returns
i think you also have to look at it long term, but depends on how itll perform.. some of the guys i heard are in it for the long haul.. holding until the next projects.. for mid term, itll be for the revenue distribution..
I'm definitely long ILV. Being in this discord for the last 3 months and seeing the development you'd be a fool not too, unless your goal is to swing trade
yeah long ILV is not a bad choice hehe
yeah . my take . 🔥
ive heard of this since march i think and was kinda disappointed i wasnt able to get to the airdrops and nfts.. 😭 just recently joined the discord somehow..
Yeah i havent been actively watching since only lately too
wasnt sure to invest at IDO so I didnt
but now got a nice stash of ILV
Interesting info. Did you dig and find it on etherscan and create your own chart or what?
yeah.. didnt ask.. howd yoi get the chart?
haha dont ask
it took me over a day
had to work around some issues because i had to scrape from etherscan directly. I couldnt get the unlock date via API so I had to manually scrape it. So I had a Python script litterally opening and closing 3k tabs and downloading every page as an html file. Then some Beautiful Soup and Regex Python action and I got the data I wanted
There must be a better way but I am just smol brain ape
Headless browsers are pretty good for scraping stuff, and usually have handy stuff like CSS selectors and ways to navigate between pages. Never done it in Python (only Node), but this article seems cool.
https://usetrove.io/blog/headless-web-scraping-with-python/
yeah i tried it with selenium before but had some issues with loading times. thanks for the link ill check it out
Ahh right on! 🙏
hahahha shit
Check #💬〕general the dumper wallet is sharednthere
godly. 🔥. of course from a perspective of someone not as tech savvy as you are.. might want to get advice from you later on.. 😀
I am just acript kiddy palying around with python
i would recommend it to anyone
nice work!
Lol, I'm one of the nerds locked for a year :P
ive got a pseudo vesting schedule over the next year
i have like 7 different lockups
Thank you for your sacrifice 😄
i keep getting "out of gas" errors when trying to claim my ILV rewards (so I can stake more) even though my gas price is above the current "high" 🤔
Did you pass by the gas station first?
i saw that the staking of SNX is finished ... how do i collect? other staje will be done with SNX?
First Xyz, then unknown
Hey, can you DM me the tx id and also confirm your wallet + browser setup? If anyone else is having similar issues, can you also do the same? Thank you!
Have such small holdings i had to lock for a year to make it worth while 😅
just add 1 or 2 in front of the gas amount
is there a considerable risk of impermanent loss in the eth/ilv pool?
https://analytics.sushi.com/pairs/0x6a091a3406E0073C3CD6340122143009aDac0EDa here is the pair and what it’s done so far.
How can we stake ILV?
#🔗〕helpful-links under medium articles. May need to scroll a bit.
Thanks! 😜
wait thats it? That's not bad at all
tho ig its from a period of nothing but decline in crypto
There is a link to the guide at the bottom of the staking page too. There’s a link to the staking page pinned in here.
It depends when you added liquidity too.
Thanks! 😊
ah yeah true haha
I staked ILV for 12 month and 6 month to test out two staking period. There is only one reward line for the 12 month lock but not a separate line for the 6 month locked. Is that correct? I hope for separate two lines for rewards since they differ in maturity time horizon.
Answered you in #814313779696238642
thanks
Just kidding man. I think its not that bad to lock it up longer
If we lock our staking for one year, we can reddem sILV? Or we have to wait one year?
if you choose to claim sILV you can use it immediately when the games starts
In game things like curing shards, travel, forging, etc. sILV can be used for this. Anything where you are paying the game directly.
Even if the staking is locked for one year, can I claim sILV before the end of that period?
Yes
yes ma'sm sILV is unlock
Oh that is cool! Thanks you all!
How did you get this data? Did you compile this yourself?
Also, thanks for sharing!
Great work, much appreciated! I just locked up half my ILV for 12 months on Sushi, so we'll see. My thinking is Synthetix was (is) built for the long term, I would imagine the ethos of Illuvium will be similar. They will do whatever they need to do to make it successful.... I staked my other half without lock up to sell if there is a huge run up, just to lower my overall risk. We'll see!
Great work! This will help the community's noob programming members. Hope the universe would reward your efforts!
scraped it from etherscan in a ver inefficient way
your welcome
@queen horizon beast
Yeah, the more i think about it the more i like the 1 year SLP lock up
haha, thanks
And there is no rule you need to lock up everything you have for 12 months, i.e. all or nothing. Lock up a % with which you are comfortable, the rest you can manage in a more flexible way.
yeah 100%
glad to see everyone backread what @queen horizon made there.. the man deserves praise fow that..
thank you, appreciate the kind words
Gwei is never lowering...
It was 20 early this morning Dutch time..
Been waiting for 1 week 🥲
I will wait till it's sub 10
The longer you wait, the less it matters if it is a little higher 😉
Or just put more $ in haha, then it matters less and less.
My stack is not big enough, but I'm broke..
i pray every day
Today is the day, I can feel it 😉
please
I'll invest a little bit each month 😜
I can't invest a lot, but something is better than nothing 😂
same
Finally claimed rewards just now for the first time in a week
Feeling so much lighter 🎉
hahahah nice
just over a thousand and were good to go..
I'm going to be traveling cross country for 2 weeks and will be on my phone. I've tried claiming on mobile for SLP but sometimes I only get one of the 2 tx , and I can't adjust gas
Any tips for mobile claiming?
I’ve had the same issues with mobile. The 2nd transaction never pops up.
These gas prices are crazy. Been waiting days to claim and usually the weekend is a good time. I saw it went down to 16 earlier today but I like to claim in single digits. I can’t believe gas is at 44 right now!
it was around 16 earlier
hopefully it goes down tomorrow
i'm also waiting to buy sushi lp
what's the usually time that gas fee are low?
Anyone tried buying ETH using WYRE in metamask? My Credit card doesn't work on binance
How does Compound Vesting work? I'm assuming it's required to Claim the ILV in order to Vest it but does it go into the ILV Pool where it'll compound your rewards?
you won't get any compounding benefits from rewards until you claim it, correct?
correct
I have used WYRE on a different thing. It’s ok. Watch out for those fees. Coinbase is good IMO for direct bank transfers
3rd party crypto on ramp fees are crazy
Can you not use the PayID option?
FTX and Binance are the best options, in that order
yeah price like 3% of total value
Maybe additional fees from credit card company. Potentially at cash advance rates
I'll try Wyre instead. also does staking fee is fix or it depends on your total stake value?
ETH transactions don't depend on amount.
hey guys.. just wondering if itll be possible later on to merge stakes? or is it just better to wait until you have higher capital? what are your take?
Merge stakes?
sorry.. my concern is that, i shouldve waited longer to have bigger capitak to stake, cuz i think its too much of a hassle having to many rewards to claim and gas taking up money..
If you stake in the same pool
The rewards accumulate together
So it doesnt mater if you add later on
owwww.. as long as its inthe same pooool.. got it.. i wanted to ask cuz i never tried.. thanks mate..
so basically this answers my question that the stakes you do merges when you make a new one.. ok. thanks for helping.
if you stake for a fixed period, lets say for example 1 month, after the staking period is done does it automatically move it back into your wallet, or does it go to the flex staking?
sorry if thats obvious, i've only staked on binance prior to this
If you lock for 1 month, your tokens stays staked but they are available to withdraw
They will keep the weight they got from locking 1 month
oh i see
thanks
thats much better then, i was initially concerned you'd have to re-stake it if you chose to lock it for a shorter duration
This is the best feature. Remain staked for 3 years at 2x weight before consider touching it. Once you do unstake, are you able to unstake a portion or do you have withdrawl the whole amount?
Example withdraw 1/2 and leave the other 1/2 at the increased pool weight?
I put in an overnight claim at 10 gwei. Took 18 hours but it got filled. Knew I wouldn't be buying anything else today so it worked out. Make sure you use the same exact gas for both transactions if you take this approach.
They are batches
So what you see in vesting is batches you can withdraw
If you all staked in one transaction you can only withdraw all that deposit
You cannot split
Maybe a function to split or withdraw all available unlocked tokens will come later on
maybe
that'd be good
@modern blade do you mean how to connect metamask to https://staking.illuvium.io/ ?
Illuvium | Staking
there is a guide here... https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
@devout ginkgo to withdraw you will need to claim the rewards.
To add your rewards to your staked balance you need to claim the rewards. Claimed rewards are added to vesting balances as locked for 12 months.
Agree
Compounding
is there a fee associated with claiming rewards?
If I stake for 52 weeks, when should I claim?
Gas fees have to be paid when claiming, yes. You need to evaluate for yourself when your piled up stack of rewards is big enough to make paying gas fees worthwhile.
You can try to see if this helps your decision making process: #🥩〕staking message
makes sense, thanks
staking in Illuvium is ILV-ETH or ILV-wETH ?🤨
Staking can be done with $ILV only or by providing liquidity on Sushi in the $ILV/$ETH pool and then staking the acquired SLP tokens on the ILV staking website.
Hey all, nice to join the community!
Could I ask the learned folk here a few questions?
-
when you claim your rewards, is it possible to claim only one of the two types? (I am doing both LP staking and straight ILV staking.) or does it make you claim both sets of rewards at once?
-
in the vesting section, how are the re-invested (compounding) rewards shown? Do they appear in the vesting amounts growing, or in the normal rewards area?
-
given each claim will have different maturity times in the vesting area, will we be able to claim all vested rewards at once once they have all reached 12 month vesting stage? Or will each batch have to be taken separately once unlocked, meaning lots of separate transactions in future?
welcome @faint shadow
I see @manic spindle is already typing so I'll leave it to him 😄
- If I remember correctly (someone please confirm), you can claim single pool rewards individually but when claiming LP rewards it has to claim both pools.
- When you claim your rewards they are shown under "Vesting" just like the deposits you staked yourself manually. The difference is that one has "Deposit" the other "Rewards" as data for the "Source" column. The compounding happens by simply more rewards piling up again, because claimed rewards are staked in single pool with 2.0 weight.
- Currently every individual batch has to be withdrawn individually. There might be options to withdraw all or allow for splitting of batches in the future, but no promises on that at this moment.
I know if I want to claim I should claim sushi pool.
But if I want to stake a couple more new coins as well as claim I should just go directly to staking, yes? That should also claim rewards at the same time?
Appreciate your detailed response mate, thanks.
The fact the all claimed rewards are auto staked back at 2.0 weighting in the single ilv pool is superb!
Hey guys. I have some ILV how can I stake on Suhi LP pool?
add liquidity here
than stake your SLP tokens on https://staking.illuvium.io/
Illuvium | Staking
@spiral flame
Yield on top of yield on top of yield, you just win
hey, @queen horizon , youre here.. just curious how much it had changed in the past few days with the volume of people for different pools as what you have made before.. 😀
I guess not much, but havent run the code anymore
Do you guys leave your rewards for some days before claiming?
i used the calculator and you make profit after about 22.5hours
Yeah agree, if youre smaller in size you should really be selective about claiming. Sunday is usually the cheapest
thanks for the tips, i'm definitely small. i'm blown away every day by how much cash you guys have for these projects... one day i'll join you 🙂
No one should feel sorry for not having the same amount to invest like others. We're all on our own journey. Every profit you take with you here brings you to a new level 🙂 Also, some here are also just bat shit crazy and simply decided to throw somewhat larger loans at this project instead of continuing to build the business they already had started to invest into tries to avoid a mirror 😄
Also blows me away 😜
Very important, its not about where you start but where you finish
all this inspiration makes my eyes watery 😭
As the man with gorilla hands says. People over estimate what they can accomplish in 1 year and underestimate what they can achieve in 10 years. Invest wisely and for the long term and you might just be a whale come the next decade 🐋
100% this
Dont get me excited...you had me at ILLUVIUM
@exotic igloo you only claim on the weekends?
Universe.xyz ILV pool is 234% 🤔
It's live now?
I’m talking about the staking ILV on the universe.xyz site
Oh strange. One sided ILV pool? Are rewards paid in ILV or XYZ? I'm pretty comfortable having them staked through illuvium personally:p
XYZ
Hi all newbie to LP and staking.. I am not understanding how to get ETH/ ILV LP tokens to stake. I understand you need to provide equal ETH/ ILV and you can do this on Sushi platform. But whats next after this? Do tokens get added to your wallet and you connect this with ILV staking platform? Just want to get everything right before paying all the gas fees for transactions.
Hey Riyala! Yeah, once you add the ILV/ETH Liquidity on Sushi, you should receive SLP tokens in that same wallet you had your ILV/ETH in. Then you'll stake those SLP tokens on the Illuvium site.
If you're not seeing the SLP tokens in your wallet after adding liquidity to Sushi, you might need to manually add the token first. The ILV/ETH SLP token contract address is: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda
The illuvium site will also recognize them automatically in your wallet when you go to stake even if you didn’t add the custom token to your wallet.
I didn’t add the token to my wallet
True! After adding liquidity to ILV/ETH on Sushi, just attempt to stake in the LP pool on Illuvium and you should see your SLP token amount here @supple mica :
for the Sushi LP, the actual liquidity providing happens on Sushi, and then the staking on Illuvium is just to claim the extra rewards right? so you're getting rewarded there only for maintaining a long term position, and your rewards for actually providing liquidity come from Sushi? just trying to wrap my head around why protocols have you basically stake twice
oh wait just read that the SLP doesn't get you sushi rewards if you stake on the Illuvium site, so I guess Illuvium IS basically giving you those liquidity provider rewards + the premiums for long term positions, nvm
Yeah it’s about distributing $ILV to ILV holders and ILV LPs.
Lol my claim I submitted at 13 gwei went through after 2 hours and 18 minutes
LETS GOOOOO
Gonna setup one at 10 GWEI for this week hahah
we can setup at a specific gwei and leave it and it won't be cancelled or failed?
Good to know!
Curious if you guys are staking ILV or yield farming ILV/ETH?
Yes if doing SLP just make sure both transaction have the same gwei and you can let them sit there until they go through
Glad Joe pointed it
ouuuuu that is so convenient
But you cant do any other transactions with that address while waiting tho
ahh i see
If you’re staking SLP, how many transactions does it require to do a manual claim of ILV rewards?
Trying to work out how much gas it would cost and how frequently I should claim rewards
You should only claim SLP rewards as it will claim both pools rewards anyway.
It is 2 transactions and depending on the amount you staked it will cost more cause it needs more gas limit.
Okay no worries thanks
I think I’ll claim pretty infrequently as I don’t have a large amount staked
I do once or twice a week during the weekend low gas personally.
Should I stake also in ILV/ETH? Currently i'm investing everything in ILV lol
It represent double the transactions to claim and also to withdraw if you ever want to withdraw them.
So it is your decision and how much gas you are willing to pay.
I see thank you
Hi guys. what's this number below in my rewards tab? is this the reward that I will be getting?
amount to be claimed
yeah it just looks like that because it's too small to show up in the 0.00
Also does reward accumulate? example I didn't claim the rewards for 1 month. can I claim it in one scoop?
Yes!
You wait for as long as you want
Sweet thanks!
Thank you so much @final steppe makes sense. cheers
do we get both ETH and ILV if we stake our sushi lp tokens?
I'm looking at the UI and in the rewards tab it only has the claim ILV button
Only ILV
ohh i see. thanks!
@cosmic thunder I don’t think there are any limits. You can hold fractional amounts of ILV in the staking
Damn that must be a record lol
If I already have SLP staked (locked for 6 months), can I add more SLP as flexible?
I’m getting an error message saying I need to claim existing rewards first, but when I choose ILV (instead of sILV) and press stake, nothing happens
Or do I have to go back and manually claim rewards first? I only have a small amount of rewards to claim so far, and it wouldn’t be worthwhile doing it just yet, so wanted to check before doing it.
yeah you can
everytime you add it is treated as a separate deposit
@exotic igloo when you claim from slp, you do 2 transactions. the second transaction is about the sushi rewards, but I don't see them in my wallet. is that because they are converted into ilv and put in the ilv pool also?
I think you dont get any sushi rewards when you stake into the ILV_SLP pool
Any idea why I might be getting an unpredictable gas limit error?
I’m getting same issue as this: #🥩〕staking message
Also using ledger + metamask
just increase your gas limit in your transaction
Here the right field just put 1.000.000 in there
It doesn’t actually give me the metamask pop up
It will only use as much as needed not the whole million
Just gives an error message, so there’s no option to adjust settings
ah ok, yeah, that sucks. have to wait for someone from the team
No worries, thanks for your help anyway
no problem, hope this issue gets resolved quick
Hey guys I have a question about sILV. I am staking Sushi LP and receiving ILV and I can see the amount of rewards accumulating.
Should I Automatically be receiving sILV as well? If so how do I know how many I have accrued?
Thanks!
Am i correct in saying that I can choose which one I wish to be paid out in?
OK so I dont get both
no
sILV you can use right away on the game
ILV will be locked for 12 months after you claim them
Ok but the game hasnt started....
Let the ILV compound
but it makes sense to claim ILV because they will be automatically staked on the ILV pool
exactly
let the ILV compound
👍
Thanks for your help.
The game looks pretty cool - I am looking forward to its release
I agree, can't wait for it
I would choos ILV in the beginnning and wait for beta release to claim sILV
Hey, did you figure out how to solve this? I’m getting the same error with a ledger and metamask
Anyone knows an easy way to calculate the impermanent loss for providing liquidity on the ILV/ETH pool on SushiSwap?
Just wanted to check if my math is right.
So I've invested roughly 1 ETH on that pool (0.5 ETH and 0.5 ETH worth of ILV), which gave me 2.13 SLP tokens. I've staked that SLP tokens on the Illuvium website, and I can see on the website dashboard that those 2.13 SLP are currently worth $1840.
ETH price at the moment is $1870, so my current loss is $30. Is this correct?
I want to add to my staked tokens. Should I claim my current rewards in ILV or sILV? will sILV be transferrable to ILV later?
I have not, @hexed bough were you able to find a solution. I tried again yday and it failed as well.
sILV can only be used in game. So until the game is released, it is better for you to claim ILV because they will be automatically staked on the ILV pool and will be compounding. But they will be locked for 12 months until you can withdraw them.
ILV = governance token also used for revenue distribution. sILV = utility token used to pay for in-game fees instead of ETH. There has been no announcement in regards to a possible transfer/swapping of ILV and sILV (and personally, I don't see any need for it either).
gotcha, thanks guys
Did you succesfully staked?
First transaction is to claim the ILV pool rewards. Second is to claim the SLP pool rewards. There is no sushi rewards when you stake your SLPs on Illuvium.
Where are you guys getting an error?
I click the stake button and a popup error message from illuvium appears. No metamask popup to complete the transaction occurs, it just goes straight to the error message
When trying to claim sILV rewards, before the metamask pop up
And what is the error message?
Do you have eth in your wallet to cover the transaction?
I got it when trying to stake SLP. Yep I had ETH in the wallet
This is the error message
@midnight geyser
Hey @regal osprey! Pinged you in private chat
Anyone? 👇
#🥩〕staking message
two rss at the moment
Impermanent loss calculator for liquidity providers on Uniswap or other decentralized exchanges.
For the second one, scroll down, it shows the impermanent loss filtered by date
Have fun nerding out bud 🍻
Ok, still confused how to calculate it... 😅
Because I started with 0.2 ETH (0.1 ETH and 0.1 ETH worth of ILV)
and after a week, I decided to put more ETH, making a total of 1 ETH invested
go on
Hello, is metamask good wallet to keep ILV and can I stake from there ? Thanks
yep, that's the recommended
that's all 😄
Staking however you will do on the website
Illuvium | Staking
Ok, thanks
you link your meta mask to the staking website
What's the percentage per year at the moment ? Through ILV ?
Ok, thanks
You will also be able to find the APY (percentage per year) also on the staking platform once you've logged in using your metamask wallet
I'm currently logged out atm lol
https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
150% if you choose the lock option for 12 months, or 75% if you choose not lock the tokens
Illuvium | Staking
yes
Ok, thanks
Basically incentive if you believe in the project
Otherwise you can flexible lock meaning withdraw any time you want
Ok, thanks
ok so I would just use the calculator
and you can also choose the ILV/ETH pool, which has even higher APY
And any time would be 75%, I believe in project, just want to test first, I bought a bit
and you can see the scenarios what happens if ILV increases /decreases drastically or what happens if both rise dramatically
Just to clarify, the APY is NOT guaranteed. It is the current APY. This can vary dramatically
I've used and I needed to separate my calculation. First I calculated with one week and 0.2ETH and then I calculated with 1 ETH since saturday
I am aware, thanks
And my math checks out
For the single ILV pool for example two things need to be remember: 1) Every claimed ILV (from any pool) is automatically staked in the single ILV pool with a weight of 2.0 and 2) The payout of ILV in both core pools is reduced by 3% every two weeks.
But you still getting rewards in ILV correct ? Thanks
Yes
You provide liquidity for the ILV/ETH pool on SushiSwap, you receive SLP tokens and then you stake those tokens on the Illuvium website
in return you receive ILV or sILV
you can choose
but since sILV are only used in game
Do I need to restake manually or can it be done automatically ? Thanks
it's better for you to claim ILV for now because they will be automatically staked and will be compounding
but they will be locked for 12 months
you need to stake them manually
Ok I see, thanks
after providing liquidity on sushiswap, you receive SLP tokens in your wallet
then you go to the illuvium staking website, connect your wallet and stake those tokens
And do you get rewards daily ?
you can choose the flexible option with a current APY of 282% or the lock option where you can choose up to 12 months with an APY of 564%
current APY
they accrue with each block
and you can claim them when you see that they are worth the gas fees
I see, I am leaving it for at least 6 months I would say at the moment
How often are blocks ?
Ethereum blocks
But this big % are on sushiswap specifically ?
Not ILV ?
I mean pool
you don't receive from the sushi pool, you receive ILV from the staking
Ok, I see, I think Ive seen video where guy said if you go for Sushiswap specific pool you getting more Apy and if for ILV pool you getting less, thanks for clarifying it
What's the difference between 2 of them ? Thanks
on the Core pools you have
and the Flash pools are pools from partners of Illuvium I think
currently they have SNX and XYZ pools there
Ok I see, and which of two is flexible and locked ? Thanks
Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.
Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV. This will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.
Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available once the game and Illuvidex are launched.
For further details read: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
For the Core ?
Yes, that's why I bought few as well 🤗
Is weekend usually better for Gwei or not ?
Ok, will wait till weekend and maybe buy some more ILV, while it's affordable
Or maybe just throw eth there
While ratio is good
Or actually it's not good 😌
!tokenomics
Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.
Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV. This will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.
Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available once the game and Illuvidex are launched.
For further details read: https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
Can you help me too, I have been waiting for quite some time now...
Sure, just messaged you
How long does it take? To be approved?
Depends on the Gwei you used for your transaction?
Right now fast is around 30
Your transaction is still pending
Thanks

when i try to stake new ilv, the site asks me to claim my rewards first. my question is, does that add to my gas fees or not?
im assuming it only goes as a single transaction so it shouldn't but i may be mistaken
good afternoon, I'm trying to make a staking of 1 ilv, and the transaction is not completing it's already been hours and it still wasn't, is there an ilv limit to be stanking???
oh nevermind I think I figured it out. when I claim ILV it claims all the rewards so i shouldn't have a problem with gas fees when claiming even for those small investments.
@manic spindle @cobalt ridge can help me ?
Can you dm me the transaction address ?
My first guess would be gas too low and the transaction still pending.
For anyone providing liquidity i just did some calcs.
Had 190 ilv + 10 eth lp'd for 7 days. IL was $5. (roughly 90staked for 5 days and 190 staked for 2)
Though the ILV earned in rewards greatly outweighs the IL. (little over 10 ILV earned)
figures are slightly different, rounded them for ease
to be honest i dont even care how many ILV/ETH i put in. with 560% APY the amount of ILV i am printing every day I will probable 3x my initial ILV amount
And the most people only stake in flexible, so I even increase my percentage of the ILV network
making me even richer
Yea i'm just swing trading the eth atm, will use that to buy extra eth. I obvously have no where as a big of bag as you haha
Yea locking doesn't make sense to me
Yeah if you are swingtrading, then lock up doesnt make sense. I just find it hard to outperform a 560% APR for ILV staking
you must be a god trader
i suck at trading 😄
Nah i'm a rookie
I will want liquidity to front run certain events next year with ilv, that's my reason for not locking up
ok makes sense, I will hedge a bit by shorting ILV on a CEX around March, june & July next year
i expect ILV to get listed pretty quick on FTX or other future exchanges
Really??
Shit i didn't even think of it being added to exchanges for that option 😑
sometimes i don't think haha
I wouldnt bet against the vault buying power
Yeah, here som numbers I ran a couple days ago #💬〕general message
If you guys think it will do -50% because of VC unlocks you will be surprised
Yeah thats why i like the lock up option even more. 560% APR and in March, may you can hedge with futures, which will probable be pretty cheap to short as the game will attract many new users
i only need %5-10 to put a big smile on my face.
I dont think so, but taking some risk of for a couple days to see if they turned on the ILV selling bots or are staking seems like a good hedging idea to me
Sure
these guys have massive ILV amounts, if ILV ran up to 1k until then I am sure some of them will take some profits
Yea the Eth being locked i don't like also, i mean if we weren't in the current market sentiment i'd probably have a different outlook. But i'm waiting for that big spike down/liquidity grab that i believe is on the horizon
be silly not to
Meh
I dont complicate my life more
Staking for at least 4 to 5 years until next cycle top
haha yeah will probably still make you absurdely rich
holding for a longer time in this industry has never been a mistake really
Yes exactly
And I learnt to not touch what I dont understand
So options and stuff like that
Always been buying and holding and it treated me well
Buying the dips
I'm still young enough that I can keep doing it with a 100% crypto portfolio for at least another 35 years
thats the smartest way to do it, just observe and learn while becoming rich 😄
luckier are those who entered the 650%+.. did anyone see a 700%?
We saw 800 to 1000% first day
Damn dont tell me that, that hurts too much
oh fudge.. that means, there were plenty who got in first with big stash..
But it was only like that the first day. Thats how i cope 😄
otherwise too painful
same.. hurt me as well.. but nah.. were still early.. hahaha just keep it burning..
I might or might not have pushed yields down by a few percent 🐵
sorry ... 🤷♂️
M'yield!
i promise i wont do it again

my transaction so far has not left the payment to release to be able to stanking, what do I do???
Do I misunderstand how APY works? If you lock in your LP tokens qt 800% and 7 days later it's at 550%. Are you not currently earning a 550% APY or is your APY what you initially locked in at?
You should rise your gas
It must be pending at low gas
The current
Its always changing
@exotic igloo I paid for the faster gas and it still didn't go
Ok I thought so
Is it confirmed then on etherscan?
the transaction doesn't even show up on etherscan
Are you sure you submitted the tx?
yes
what is not approving is an initial fee to start stanking
i am trying to stanking only 1 ilv is it possible?
It is, but you should wait until gas prices are very low. To be honest staking 1 ILV is not really worth it as gas will cost you like 20$ for staking
If you just wanna test the system then its fine, but if that is all you should maybe refrain from staking until you have a few more ILV
Waiting for weekend low gas is probably better yes
Sunday evening is the best time statistically
the gas is charged by eth or ilv in the wallet???
By transaction
so he uses eth in his wallet to charge the transaction??
yes, all tx fees are paid in ETH, but seriously if you only stake 1 ILV it will not be worth it
ok, i buy more ilv to test
👍
If you lock it for 1 year into the Sushi pool (556% APR) I think 5-10 ILV should be enought to make it worth it
Is it possible in a pool for you to lose 100% of 1 side of your liquidity?
Possible sure improbable more likely
Eg. if someone puts in 20 ILV and 1 ETH.
If everyone was just using the pool to buy ilv and using eth to pay. can it deplete the pool down to 0
therefore i'm guessing you'd be at 50% IL
no, but if ILV goes to zero, you will hold 1000000 ILV at $0.00 value and 0 ETH
so basically youre broke
If you withdraw ILV rewards, it starts the clock and unable to withdraw for 12 mos?
ah damn nevermind, i read it wrong
Nah i mean if the ILV side went to 0, from people just pulling ILV out for ETH. so the ETH pool would be full.
yeah, but ILV price would shoot up like crazy
Well on the brightside it'll bring back memories of my youth haha
and with the 500% APY you basically get all your ILV back and then some
hahaha, back to basics
Yea but this APY is only going to diminish over time
yeah but look at the pay out plan in medium article. The APY will stay at 200% if not too many people buy ILV and restake
for the first year at least
Yea i just did a test in the pool for a week. ended up with .5 less eth and +10 ilv (and also earned around 10 ilv for the week)
Though i only added a large amount to the pool for 2 days, for 5 days it was only 90ilv/4.8ish eth
so after 6 months you at least tripled the value you put in
at current apy
yeah me too, after analyzing that not many people stake longterm i jumped on it and went heavily locked for 1 year, because i will profit proportionally more than almost 80% of stakers
very fair point
at current you will make more than triple
yeah at 200% you doubled after 6 months
i really want to just pile in, but i want this shake out to happen first
i dont even care how much i put in. IL is a non issue if you look at the APY. If you lock up 1 year
yea i'll have look at this on the next weekly close. If we don't get the shakeout this week i'll bite the bullet and do it. (though i'll only lock to dec this year)
yeah, sounds like a plan
I staked in the sushi pool, do I need to do anything to lock it for 12m to enhance APY or is it auto-locked?
If you staked it flexible, You are at 1x rewards and u can unstake anytime. There’s a tab on that same staking page where u can move a slider to choose how long to lock for and it’ll show you how your apy changes depending on how long you choose.
Thanks
If you staked flexible and want to lock your slp for more rewards you will have to unstake and restake. You’ll have to pay the gas fees to do so.
So staking ILV is done on Ethereum network, but the game tokens will run on Immutable X?
Like the collectibles and players I mean
Ok thanks for clarifying
I have 2 LP pools of 10 ILV
All I care about is that they generate at least 21 overall so I should be good :P
Even if I only have 1 left from each when i take them out in a year I'll count it as a win
"Shake out"?
Oh man
I need to go do some learning...
This was my reasoning and I just said f it and went for it :P
May not happen mate, just something i'm preparing/positioning myself for
When you lock up in the staking section, that apy is still variable isn't it?
Lol I meant I don't know what that means. I'll do some googling later 😂
Yes
It changes often. Been relatively stable this week though. I think
I've only been in SLP for a week
Yea makes sense, i just realized if it locked the apy, everyone would have locked when it was 6000% or whatever it was 😅
Also just wouldn't work with whats in the whitepaper, sometimes i asks stupid shit haha
What is the best strategy at this point? Staking it on ILV or Sushi LP?
Don't worry, I do that constantly
It's personal really.
Some people say LP
Some say Single
Some say both
Based on your risk profile and personal situation
Thanks
How much ilv is the minimum to stake?
I'm pulling out all my USDC from Yearn to buy ILV 🙈
Gotta take advantage of these low gas fees right now
It was not much really, only 1000 USDC, but the APY on Yearn was ridiculous and I only got like 6 USDC after like 3 months there
I think it's better invested by buying ILV and staking it 😄
But I couldn't resist, so I ended staking one more ETH worth of SLP, locked until February. It's a gift for my nephew that will be born on that month
And last but not the least, I staked one more ETH worth of SLP for myself 🙈
Now the rewards are accruing fast 😄
If I already have SLP staked, and I go to stake more SLP, I get a pop up saying I need to claim existing rewards from the pool first. By choosing the option for “ILV” and clicking “stake”, will this also initiate the necessary rewards claim for me?
Or do I need to go to first go to the rewards page and claim before trying to stake more SLP?
When you stake it automatically claims the rewards before staking. Don’t claim and then stake otherwise it’ll claim ur rewards again. Paying extra fees.
Thanks!
any estimation when new XYZ pool will be up?
Anyone know if you do locked stake for a year can you still claim sILV rewards when game launches
Any time you claim you have the choice to claim sILV or ILV. upt to you what you do 😉
I would only claim ILV now until the beta is out later this year
Unless you only have a very small stack of $ILV staked and don't see yourself to have enough funds to pay with ETH when the game comes out. Then it might make sense to claim more sILV, I guess.
Yeah true, but then gas might eat up a lot
You don't have to claim all the time 😉 If you want sILV only, just let it pile up and claim once when needed. No usage or compounding anyway.
If you want primarily sILV, then claim whatever ILV you want beforehand whenever it makes sense with gas and then let sILV stack up until actual use cases are released.
Yeah makes sense
am i right this is where you stake your eth/ilv pool?
You get SLP tokens on SushiSwap by providing liquidity via 50/50 pairing of ETH/ILV, yes. Those SLP tokens you then stake directly on the ILV staking website.
Should I convert them to ILV first?
Have you provided liquidity for a project before? If not, you might wanna read up on things like impermanent loss first before going that route: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained
In general, no, you don't convert your SLP tokens back to ILV. You get SLP tokens on SushiSwap by providing liquidity in form of ILV/ETH (in equal $ amount) and the received SLP tokens are then staked on the ILV staking website.
Thank you. I haven't tried it before. maybe I'll try the regular ILV instead
Guys if I have an existing flexible stake then I add another one. will it be added to the existing stake? or will it be another entry stake?
same with locked
New deposits are staked as their own batch and can be withdrawn individually under "vesting" just like every time you claim rewards it is vested as an individual batch
I see so It's much better to add it in whole instead of bit by bit.
Thank you
That also depends on whether or not you want to lock (if so, if everything should be the same time period) and if you want to withdraw everything at once as well later on for example 🙂 Lot's of things go into these decisions sometimes, but you should have all the info now, to make your own. If not, just keep asking here 🙂
The yield percentage shown in the ilv/Eth pool, how is this calculated? Do I receive the percentage of the total dollar value that my slp are worth and then claimed/payed in ILV?
What about if I stake more in the $ILV
Pool? Will it claim the rewards in just that pool as well?
Pretty sure I already know but I cant recall for the life of me :P
For some reason I was hoping if I add a stake to $ILV pool it would roll in rewards from SLP and $ILV pool.
Probably just $ILV though, yes?
If you claim ILV, it claims only this one. If you claim SLP, it claims both rewards.
When did the rewards for SNX staking end?
I think it just makes you claim the rewards in ILV pool, not the LP rewards as well. But basically just don’t claim right before you’re gonna stake more because you’ll pay gas twice for clearing the ILV pool rewards. I think I got that right lol
Around July 14th/15th depending on timezone etc I think. Flash pools last 14 days, it started July 1.
Ok, awesome that's what I thought. Ty
"ILV rewards are subject to a 12 month vesting period. While they are vesting they compound your rewards."
Does the above mean that if I locked my ILV for 12 months, I do not have to claim my ILV rewards and re-stake them for compounding?
Ok so if I locked 20 ILV, and have 2.5 ILV rewards, the 2.5 ILV rewards are not compounding at the moment...I have to claim them, then stake them in order to be receiving compounded rewards...?
Right, ok, so I do in fact have to claim the rewards, and they go directly into the ILV pool. Yea I will wait until it gets up to 5ILV so it makes sense considering the gas fees.
If I have my ILV locked for 12 months...can I claim sILV to be used in game?
or is that not possible for me since I locked for 12 months?
... Is it a bad time to get into the LP pool? Temperature check.
Why should it be bad? APY is still over 500%. I wouldn't see much more against it than before. Personally, I will throw something in there if I manage to get some funds together by getting out of other projects. I'm bullish on both ETH and ILV, already got an ok stash in single stake secured and the APY is damn appealing.
But I'm not an expert, so NFA 🙂
idd, still good to go
I was not insinuating it was bad, just wondering if the downturn of the market had any affect on LP staking choices considering IL and all that.
aye, ty.
Since both ETH and ILV went down, I'd say no, personally, but if I'd go into LP now I'd always just look long-term anyway and remain somewhat confident that I'd always get more ILV in rewards than I could lose to IL.
Debating if should add more to my LP position or just go straight ILV pool
If you lock for 2 years then i would choose LP, ILV is the safer option
Good point. Gonna do another lock & already in the pool, so might as well...
yeah its also a good idea to have some portion flexible
Yeah.... I'm sorta on the fence about that... if it's flexible I can take it out when I FOMO at other shitty projects... or when I get tired of seeing red... if it's locked I just gotta sit on my hands (for better or worse)
just keep a bit flexible
you still make good yield
but can take it out if needed
it's one year, right?
It's UP to one year to be specific 🙂
indeed 🙂 345 days to go in my case, you can see in the vesting tab
Someone I’m helping wants to lock in their SLP staking. So they need to withdraw and restake. But when they got that started they needed to claim their ILV rewards. Fine good. But there are only two transactions being processed for this. The claim and the withdrawal. I feel like there would be three! The ILV only reward claim, the SLP reward claim, and the withdrawal. What am I missing?
I may have to dig deeper into the TXs myself but does someone already know?
I only had two last time i withdrew some
Did those 2 claim ILV from both pools?
ah no sorry, that was the ILV pool
Ah
maybe the claim SLP rewards and withdraw SLP tokens is same tx?
Last time i claimed with SLP 2 tx came up, I claimed both SLP rewards and ILV rewards
Seems possible.
Yeah exactly. And this interaction should add the withdrawal to that
hm ok, i never withdrew SLP, so I am not sure, sorry
I would guess since the rewards have to be 0 it needs to be simultaneously claimed and removed from the pool
definitely just conjecture though lol better to ask an engineer
I’ll let this stew for a bit and come back before I ping anyone.
wait so it didn't work? what's the issue?
yeah maybe someone did it already and could report back
max 2 txs - never needed 3 and I did all kinds of withdraws, claiming etc.
Ok cool. And didn’t catch a bunch of unintended sILV?
nope
The gas is set low I guess they are hoping for it to process tonight.
Cool thanks
Yeah makes sense. I’ll let them know. Speed helps.
But I imagine same gwei is still gonna be key
My rewards ILV are now contributing slightly over 10% of what my staked sushi pool is generating. This is absolutely glorious.
Prinitng money evry day
My printed money is printing money. And the best part is I can't do anything to mess it up for a year even if I tried my hardest
hahaha, yeah its fool proof
Just got a look at the rest of the TX info. The second one has about a double limit... so that one is gonna do both the SLP reward claim and the SLP withdrawl.
good to know, thaks for checking
You can tell in sushi how much your lp is making?
I can't see my position anymore in sushi since staking, but can see some analytics there.
That's a good site
i'm about to buy my first ILV tokens. Decided to stake it with the LP pool. I've waited for ILV to fall below $100, now its at $88. Hope this is a good first entry! I think the price will come back down even farther, but i am impatient, and i want that 500% APY NOW! 🙂
lock for 1 year = high IQ move?
lets doo it
i bought at around $85 during the balancer sale! great entry price.
how can i stake my ILV if ever I bought one?
You can find the staking page through the website 🙂
There is also some info about staking on the page with the difference between the core pools
No worries let us know if you have questions
u already bought ILV?
Bought during Balancer sale 🙂
So yep
Been yield farming since the beginning it has been great
haha, it was the IDO so the first public offering
wont happen again
but there might be a mystery sale and airdrops in the future 🙂 mostly focused on NFTs.
If u check out #📣〕announcements and #768749491171229716 you can see some of the past NFT giveaways/partnerships.
I have a question. I just claimed my reward but it automatically staked itself, is there any problem?
Follow up question. If I want to claim the reward for sILV would that happen too?
Ok.
Just checking.
Understood
what about the vesting part. It doesnt show the 0.000 something something unlike the first deposit I just made. Why is that?
I will show it to you in a sec
Ok understood.
I prefer having that decimals lol
💵 its like money is coming in
visually
Oh ok
Sorry about that
I would die smiling
Live LIVE
@livid lark would you have any idea when the flash pool for axs would be?
Depends on when the XYZ one goes live and if the proposal is accepted.
If it is, it will be right after the XYZ flashpool which lasts 2 weeks.
Oh ok
what was the balancer sale price start at? $85?
Started at $50 and went up and went down to $50ish. And then went up again. BLBP sales are unique. Led to a fair offering for those that were able to pay attention to all the details.
Still getting this error when trying to stake SLP using ledger + metamask. Can’t adjust gas limit because it doesn’t give me a metamask popup when clicking stake, just goes straight to this error message:
cannot estimate gas; transaction may fail or may require manual gas limit (error={"code":-32603,"message":"execution reverted: ds-math-sub-underflow","data":{"originalError":{"code":3,"data":"0x08c379a00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000020000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001564732d6d6174682d7375622d756e646572666c6f770000000000000000000000","message":"execution reverted: ds-math-sub-underflow"}}}, method="estimateGas", transaction={"from":"xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx","to":"0x8B4d8443a0229349A9892D4F7CbE89eF5f843F72","data":"0x52044ec90000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000f269f06be8d4cbc00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000","accessList":null}, code=UNPREDICTABLE_GAS_LIMIT, versio
Is your Contract data allowed in your eth app settings?
Yes I just entered the LP position now before trying again
@midnight geyser
Are you using Chrome with your Ledger + Metamask? If not mistaken that's what it's recommended. I had the same problem. I wasn't getting the popup to approve the transaction and I missed on an NFT project because after getting the popup metamask was throwing an error.
Thanks. I tried both Chrome and Brave and got the same error
Do you have the Ledger Live bridge active on Metamask?
No, how do you do that?
I updated ledger live and ledger firmware. Haven’t activated a bridge though
Metamask -> Settings -> Advanced -> User Ledger Live
I must say I didn't activate it as it said it would make all my wallets visible. I didn't like the sound of it
I linked my Trezor to Metamask and had no issues whatsoever
I see thanks, I’ll look into that
no worries. It would be interesting to know if you decide to activate the bridge and if doing so solves the problem 🙂
I turned the setting on, and re tried the same transaction and nothing changed unfortunately
Not sure if there is anything I need to do from within ledger live also if it’s just the setting on metamask?
This only works for Chrome I believe
Brave whitout that option always worked for me
After the eth app update you need to go back into settings to allow contract data
Okay I managed to connect to ledger live bridge using metamask in chrome however it didn’t fix the issue, I tried to stake SLP and received the same error message
