🎮〕illuvium-zero

[open stratus]

Is it powered ?

[atomic cove]

oh yeah, just checked. Max is 5.

I mean if you don't want scanners + labs

just stacking some sonverters for passive

also keeping in mind they need energy

[open stratus]

I've got 12 now that will be max efficiency

Or 11 maybe idr

Is it worth it to cram low %s

[atomic cove]

I believe it is. Just try a few and see for yourself.

no need for lvl 6 since it does no difference in the passive bonus.

[open stratus]

Only 5 right

Yeah I'm just getting there now. Still need to upgrade n9 and catch everything up.

Still don't know what to do with the space in the middle 🤣

[hardy brook]

Guys does anyone have any idea on what's up with this Crypton site? It's been stuck at 15h 50 minutes for over a day now. The UI says it's powered but maybe not 😕

[open stratus]

Any one bought land, and afterwards it still shows as listed ?

Is this a bug or something? I really don't want it listed.

[limpid quest]

Thanks Filow ❤️

[pearl marten]

5 scanners and 5 research labs is the max on a single plot

[slim topaz]

Is there any word on any fix for plots that still can’t be played after like 6 or now 7 weeks? Or however long it’s been? I thought they were looking into this like a month ago

This is so beyond frustrating

It really feels like nothing is happening with support. No response no progress no fix.

[versed warren]

Can someone explain bio data and blueprints, is there any utility rn for it?

[solar goblet]

Tell me, please, where can I get such statistics?

[hardy brook]

Yeah I have a habit of neglecting power stations until there's a problem 😅. Perhaps that fuel site is just under the power required but the UI is rounding up? Either way I've started upgrading those power stations now.

Thanks 👍

[cinder fractal]

It's definitely a power station, it's a UI bug showing how you have enough power when you don't, happened to me with scanners

[rotund forum]

I don´t think that is correct. I have level 6 and level 1 fuel converters and they definitely don´t have the same output.

[atomic cove]

I said to put them to lvl 5

not lvl 1

[rotund forum]

I have noticed as well that scanners or extractors may get stuck, they do seem to have sufficient energy, but they don´t because you either upgraded something or moved something close by. If you have a high level powerstation just move it close to the stuck extractor and you´ll see timer starts moving

[royal ice]

Are T1 or T2 lands better to buy in the future rn?

[rotund forum]

level 5 and 6 are the same? pffff that is stupid. And probably slipped by the team, I doubt once they realize it they will leave it at that.

[atomic cove]

they're the same in terms of passive generation. They convert a higher amount.

[cinder fractal]

Level6 can convert more even if passive is the same

Anyway wanted to ask is there a page where I can see all the illuvials and their tiers

And how many different pieces is armor made of

[rotund forum]

anyone know what the max fuel output for a T1 would be? I think the 1 fuel extractor would be like 50 now after the nerf, but if you put it full of converters for passive?

[cinder fractal]

No idea I'm only playing one tier3 plot

But it's 75*3 plus whatever you get from convertors

[rotund forum]

I don´t know if there is really a maximum now for scanners of 5 (maximum I have is 4 and the option to build one is still there) but for the biolabs that definitely is the limit. So for 5 scanners and 5 biolabs all at level 5 you will need to pay 180 fuel of all 3 types a day. I think that is absolutely impossible, a T1 can´t produce 540 fuel in total daily no matter how many extractors you can cramp in there. I don´t know why they changed the cost from elements to fuel but it has made tier 1 land a lot less optimal for blueprints (and for fuel it never was very optimal to begin with).

[hardy brook]

Question for those with T1 plots. What level scanner do you think a T1 plots can realistically support? Because if you don't have a higher tier plot feeding fuel/element to a T1 I don't see how those plots could even upgrade to an L5 scanner let alone run the thing 😅

[cinder fractal]

My advice is don't make more than 2 slowly upgrade them and see which level you can support

[cinder fractal]

They changed it to fuel because inflation in fuel was extreme, I think they did a good job now people will value more their blueprints and fuel can recover in price

[cinder fractal]

Anyone

[hardy brook]

Well you'd either stick with L1s or push for L3s and run them once a week maybe. L2 doesn't offer much value imo unless you like the Lynx BPs.

Level 4 and 5 are probably too much of a stretch right? I don't know as I don't own a T1 rn

[rotund forum]

yeah but they changed it before, at the launch of open beta that was already in effect, and I think they had believed the PAYING playerbase would be greater. They mentioned I think how many subscriptions to closed beta, those were eye watering numbers. Then active players was I think around 10.000, which is not bad but when most of them are airdrop leeches, and only 500 players are upholding the economy, then indeed you need to nerf the fuel supply.

[hardy brook]

Yeah this has always been my understanding too. When you can move resources between plots T1s have value as a BP farm if you have a T3/4 to support them. On its own though a T1 will never reach late game.

[rotund forum]

the amount of times you wait 24 hours and it is nothing is frustrating, imagine if you have to stack fuel all week for 1 or 2 T5 scans on a Tier1 plot only to get absolutely nothing, which is the far most probable

[atomic cove]

we honestly need to revert this fuel production nerf sometime in the future. These production values are almost game breaking, specially for low tier plots.

also, what do you think of this idea?
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1277543867503218790

T1's are so slow to level up they become boring... There's no reason to make the low plots this bad.

[rotund forum]

I think a large chunk of the playerbase are asian based players who are more airdrop farmers than customers. I only did the effort to watch 24 hours the selling orders, but there were clear up and downtimes of sales. So my guess is certain time zones are not really paying customers.

[rotund forum]

I think they will 1. return output value to the original standards once there are enough players, but when demand rises above that... 2. landsale

[hardy brook]

Damn it feels bad knowing entry level plots stand no chance of reaching late game no matter how much they play.

Maybe a bonus for logging in each day that compounds the longer your login streak gets. Just a little something that's helps them keep making progress idk

[atomic cove]

ok I'll say this once again for the 100x. The player base depends on the price of fuel. You should rather say "the player base they expected for the prices they wanted OW to be".

in case you guys haven't noticed this is currently a game for the rich.

demand will come in hordes if the fuel is cheap

honestly guys, this narrative of "we don't have enough demand", when we price 80% + of our own community out of the game due to the high fuel prices is becoming a bit frustrating now...

[royal ice]

Good point.

Have a great day, or night.

[atomic cove]

thanks @royal ice u 2 🫡

[royal ice]

You’re welcome. Have fun.

[atomic cove]

how is it not really accurate if the daily fuel spending as been getting lower? The small paying player base doesn't seem to want a Ferrari. Sorry to burst your bubble.

and this is not the way in any shape or form to target mass adoption.

[balmy elk]

Hey, why does 150% efficency on hyperion converter or others does not give more hyperion?
6 Crypton converts to 6 hyperion? Shouldn't it be something like 7 or 8?

[atomic cove]

the only one missing the point here is you not me. If the game isn't a Ferrari then why are we wanting to price the game like such???

I said mass adoption, but never did I mention F2P lol. I was talking about mass adoption of paying players. Would you rather have 1 player spending 100$ or 1000 players spending 1$?

Do the math.

[glass mauve]

I’ve been playing this game for awhile now and realise that selling fuel earns you peanuts…. Where is the value in owning the land?

[stuck vine]

after neft 75% fuel so have any change about this game ?

[spiral ravine]

Boh i don't know, i am still trying to figure out

Probably is better sell the land? Will someone buy it?

[atomic cove]

Sure I don't get it at all. But you sure do 🤣
Have a good one I'm done talking to you.

[shell needle]

Currently there is no value. Just the hope, it's changing in the future...

[spiral ravine]

We just live the life with hopes...hopes,hopes,hopes XD

[fair temple]

The current trifecta of games is very lacking in depth, as the team was divided over 3 games rather than focussing on one (And a number of other aspects like staking beyond etc). Moreover, the direction was catered to high resolution assets from the start rather than a good game. This now comes back to bite the project as there is nothing to do in all three games. Great to have games, but if all you do is run around, or click once a day then it all becomes stale rather quickly.

The current set of games is nowhere attractive enough to warrant Ferrari prices, and on their own arent enjoyable enough to be played for hours and hours. Im not saying it wont happen. But the best move they could make now is to completely scrub illuvium zero, future games, staking etc. from their radar. Focus on making the arena and overworld enjoyable. Yes Zero is a pain to play now. But if there are enough players, the rewards would be high enough to push the players to build up their lands.

Both you and @atomic cove have a point. There is no need to get so heated

-filow: the current pricing is too high, there are no paying players as the gameplay doesnt cater to ferrari players. We should lower prices to attract more people.
-super hamster: The game also doesnt cater to F2P currently, as there are barely any (F2P) players enjoying the game.

Both valid perspectives. Maybe with a lower price, more people will pay for runs; thereby making it more interesting to dive into the ecosystem. And the T0 regions are so simple, you always see the same things, so surely that could be a reason for F2P to sit on the sidelines.

But looking at F2P activity should give an indication of the expected acfivity with lower prices.

[atomic cove]

how can we realistically look at F2P activity when we have such a bad F2P gameplay experience... I mean it's just ridiculous to even give it any decent thought. But who am I, just a casual that, "doesn't get it as usual" may these highly intelligent individuals that know it all figure it out.

[thorny crater]

It’s a 1:1 no matter what. Once you start leveling up the converters it takes more % to get to 1:1.
I lvl 5 I was 143-148% for 1:1. I’m about to get one to max level 6, which I would guess needs 150% for a 1:1

[thorny crater]

Consumer experience aka fun > roi.
At this point of the project.

For me I haven’t left a stage 1 run* in about a week.

I just do the 1500 exp and encounter win dailies. Then just turn off the game lol

[atomic cove]

and why are you not progressing to higher stages?

[thorny crater]

That way I don’t have to pay for daily stage 1 runs to get the dailies mission points.

What I learned from the YouTube exploit. Take act then ask for forgiveness later lol

[thorny crater]

To expensesive.

[atomic cove]

thank you for proving my point

[thorny crater]

I run t0 a to get plants, most ringnuts. Cause plants are to expensive in higher stages

[thorny crater]

You’re welcome. I’m in the same page with you, but about consumer experience not just costs.

[thorny crater]

This way, I can fight as many tims as I want in stage 1+ runs. Only did 2 stages 2 runs recently and leveled up a LOT. Had 50+ t0 ring nuts though lol

[atomic cove]

we need a better F2P experience and lower fuel costs. We need lands to be producing more fuel for land owners to play more and we need to stop this idea of wanting to manipulate the market.

markets always know better

[thorny crater]

Eh. This chat has showed me people just need to farm me for ROI.

I play games for fun, and will spend money on them if they are. Just bought ff16, for steam coming sept 17, heard it’s so good I’ll pay another 30-ish for the DLCs

Eso I played for years, wow, summoners war, v bucks for fire nite, all can be played for free. And some more fun then others

Found out this weekend my little cousin cuts grass for v bucks lol

Like ftw

[fair temple]

yes 99.9% bots should be somewhat accurate in the web-3 space with a crypto game.

We could take palworld as an example, but not as the go to for all comparisons. Craftopia, the predecessor of Palworld, was released in 2020 with most of the same features as Palworld. There already was automation, there were dungeons iterative maps and all the jingles and soundtracks you hear in palworld. They iterated on that gameplay with monsters and improved automation/base building to come out at what palworld is. That was a 6-7 year long process rather than 3 years. This iteration after 4 years of developing can happen very easily for Illuvium as they have a strong foundation with good graphics and solid mechanics. The issues lying in the fact that they use new software on the blockchain that has limitations and in part to the lack of funding they may have 12 months from now. If they had 4 years to iterate on the current gameplay though... we would have a killer of a game.

i mean, the team is incredible, but games just take long to make. look at Zelda breath of the wild. They already had 10 games around Zelda finished. combat was set in stone, movement mechanics were basically the same, but even then, it took 5 years to make that game. Here we go from 0 to hero with a new studio. you can't expect 5 years to bring about the same hype. But that's what the project managers should have realised.

[atomic cove]

well said @fair temple

[slender crown]

I said it before. When the runway is gone, I will buy the Illuvium IP for pennies on the dollar, wipe the blockchain aspect, and make 10m/month easy.

Current gameplay, booooooring. Gameplay in 9 months, probably fun, but too little too late for playerbase.

Assets? Some of the best creatures I have ever seen.
Restart the project and put it on steam.
Eassssssyy money.

[fair temple]

yeah totally. Art should have come second. On the other hand, it is now revolutionary what Illuvium is doing. If they had this art with a solid game it would be 10/10. Now, the art is done. They can already make cinematics like no other game can, so now is the time to iterate on the gameplay and solidify that. I hear Kieran would ensure any funding the team requires so i look forward to what they will make in the upcoming 4 years (if funding won't be an issue) :]

Until then, let's see the game iterate from being this empty, to filled with assets.

My personal vision would be something like the hunting with tons of illuvials in there (image from teaser 6 months ago). add a number of imaginary illuvials that you can't catch, and an anchor illuvial. If you can fill the bar on the anchor illuvial, all Illuvials get sucked into the singularity and only the anchor one can be caught (+2 randoms like now). add in group combat, and bam good gameplay in the overworld 😄

[atomic cove]

what we should have advertised was the game was going to be for those with a AAA wallet size only.

[fair temple]

i mean... pokemon cards were 2-3 euro's per pack here at some point and i was merrily buying those as a kid. it's niche. Even now i get blasted with videos of youtubers buying 40$ - 1200$ magic/pokemon card packs just to get lucky, and not getting lucky.
Compared to those rare packs, illuvium is a lot cheaper. the difference here is that those other cards retain their value as they are backed by a solid IP. If Illuvium can become a similar IP, then we all good regardless of price. Again, that revolves around solidifiying Illuvium's presence in the space with solid gameplay. I don't think these prices are crazy either. if you compare our game to Lords mobile, you are nowhere close to the expenses those players accrue 😄

my guildies would be spending like 500$ per month! and like 5K to get to where they got in the first half year. but that's a whales game and so the gameplay should revolve around pulling those suckers in 🐳

[atomic cove]

we gotta stop with those analogies honestly. We shouldn't be comparing playing a game to opening a pack of cards. It's just wrong even if there's similarities between it.

This is something that has never be done before. We had everything to make it work and we fucked it up for now. Why? Because we couldn't handle dealing with reality. And that is that the game is overpriced. Market was clearly saying it. But we chose to instead go and manipulate fuel supply values. Destroy the balance of IZ and keep 80%+ of the player base out priced.

We have tons of players that want to play the game. Even in this not so much fun state. They simply don't because it's too God damn expensive...

we clearly didn't learn our lessons from Beyond alpha wave 1 and alpha wave 2.........
It's not because you price something expensive that it makes it valuable.

[fair temple]

i think it's very similar though. the overworld is a virtual extraction shooter; similar to opening card packs. if you obtain like 90% of your input value at 10$ per run, then i think people wouldn't think twice about buying. but since there is little promising use case, there is no "guarantee" and so the prices fluctuate and people see their value evaporate after spending in game. I would argue that that uncertainty is keeping people from playing/spending/buying.

And as you see in F2P activity, the game itself (at least on T0) is not interesting enough to warrant consecutive gameplay.

[atomic cove]

you know what would really attract players? obtaining 200%+ value of an input for 3$.

[fair temple]

well you can't just make money out of thin air without another party paying that amount.

[atomic cove]

it's not about how much you get out of it "evaporates". It's the pricing for the average spending power of players.

if the game is good, there is demand. It's that simple. Build it and they will come.

[fair temple]

regardless of price!

[atomic cove]

wrong

price is crucial

[fair temple]

well if the price is right, but the game is not good, then people don't come.

[atomic cove]

you can't build something and then price everyone out and expect to be profitable.

[atomic cove]

yes true

[fair temple]

so what we do now is either lower the price until the price is as low as the game warrants, or we keep the prices as is, upgrade the game to high enough standard and sell the good game at those prices.

[atomic cove]

we just have to stop fucking around with the market... Restablish the previous land fuel values cause they were good. And push the narrative for the illuvials with arena leaderboards and tournaments.

it's that simple.

an additional burning mechanism for the illuvials will help a lot as well.

[fair temple]

i would argue first increase user base again, then increase land production. that way you stabilise the economy rather than create a large dip in the market. that dip will create fear -> cause a lot of players to sell and scare new players away from buying the illuvials to participate in the tournaments.

[atomic cove]

yes I agree. We shouldn't be doing a 75% supply increase now... Let's do things properly. Maybe 3x 25% of current values.

and do it according to the increased player numbers

[fair temple]

so what are the next steps 😄

1. continue supporting the team building a great game. cuz they do that already. but push for more interactive gameplay rather than art?
2. release leviathan tournaments and competitions?
3. increase userbase and scale back illuvium Zero production?

Something like that? XD

[atomic cove]

oh another thing we reaaaally must do is fix the terrible fuel exchange UI and show the order book. That and implement the fuel transfer function to the OW to reduce the landowners sell pressure.
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1275099405187420191

[fair temple]

ah right sure. increase the ease at which people can move around the illuvidex is key.

[atomic cove]

talking about illuvidex, we should also try to fix it so players can better purchase in the market and not have the painful experience it is now.

[fair temple]

yeah i included that in that generic statement 😛

[atomic cove]

another thing we need to do is a rebranding of the illuvidex, just call it the marketplace. And create a illuvidex like the pokédex for increase appeal in collecting them all.
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1276486895144013825

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-the-mandalorian-this-is-the-way-the-book-of-boba-fett-mandalorian-gif-24825263

[fair temple]

lot of things to do 😛

[atomic cove]

indeed

[fickle loom]

I did only free runs during last time. I was quite frustrated after higher T runs and then realising everything is much cheaper on illuvidex. I am here to play games for fun and it is just ridiculous if is cheaper on the market. I have played Gods unchained. Usually cards are higher or a little higher then forging and collection. Basically just played and after just sold und bought what needed. But here is like trading and not like gaming... I hope you undertsand the point, my English is not that well... sorry

[hardy brook]

A clear observation I've made over these past few weeks is that everyone agrees illuvium is in a poor state in regards to gameplay. It's also clear that nearly everyone that shares this sentiment has their own quirky idea on how to fix it. In some situations this is fine but rn it's a negative imo.

The DAO needs leadership and a clear vision for the way forward. We need to stop it with all these random "silver bullet" ideas in feedback and take a moment to refocus the DAO.

We're in desperate need of a town hall imo

[harsh dew]

Is there a way to have the Database of the building cost/production for all Tier 1-2-3-4 ?

[cerulean steppe]

I would like a business plan or updated whitepaper, we can then discuss and modify. The whitepaper linked on Illuvium.io is pretty outdated

[fair temple]

A yeah sorry for throwing out my own idea there. 😄 i did think it was somewhat in line with overworld combat though.

[spiral ravine]

We are all trying to figure out the things to do to improve the game and the user consuming of fuel. But what developers are doing to increase this?

[ocean haven]

they on vacation

[cerulean steppe]

Little gems like this:

[spiral ravine]

😂

So the project is failing right?

[cerulean steppe]

No, it needs clear direction, but there is way too much good stuff for it to fail (as long as there is runway).

[fair temple]

We got to a mutual understanding so it's good from my perspective 👍

[spiral ravine]

But in this situation if doesn't fail it doesn't grow and get stucked

[royal ice]

Doesn’t the DAO have 14.5 months of momey left?

Last report they had 15.53 months runway

[cerulean steppe]

You mean playerbase does not grow ?

[spiral ravine]

Yeah and as consenquences we land owners don't earn anything

[fair temple]

Would also like to see a townhall for sure. Maybe with the lead game designer, lead art developer and Kieran/Aaron.

Give a perspective on what role they will take up going forward. If the directipn changes fully to game mechanics, how can art support that and what exactly will they build 👍🙏

[cerulean steppe]

We need to wait until Arena is in good enough shape to go out of beta and marketing can start.

[hardy brook]

Nah man I'm not singling anyone out here. I'm guilty of it too 😅

We all just want to help and fix these problems. Are ideas are coming from the passion we have for this project.

[spiral ravine]

Will be in december isn't?

[cerulean steppe]

I don't know.

[fair temple]

"Go out of beta"? Overworld will be live service

[cerulean steppe]

Arena

[fair temple]

I thought all games would remain in beta indefinitely xD

[spiral ravine]

That's really encouraging ahaha

[atomic zealot]

Illuvium...."we're working on it"

[spiral ravine]

Why a user should play illuvium instead of other web3 games? I ask because i've never played to illuvium

[atomic zealot]

Or even web 2

This isn't fun

I'm hoping the new arena will be fun

Otherwise

GG

[fair temple]

New arena? It is the same gauntlet that we havw now but with unique stats.

[atomic cove]

they are revamping the ascendant arena. Might be that.

[fair temple]

Cool looking forward to that

[fallow lily]

What is the profitability of a tier 2 land? I am just getting started since its officially released and wanted to get some thoughts from those of you who have been grinding so far

[ionic wharf]

~1200 fuel per week.

[atomic zealot]

It's not profitable at all, land is terrible for ROI. It'll take years and year to make your money back. It's best to just play the game

[ionic wharf]

Yes it's quite bad now, let's hope they do something about it.

[fallow lily]

What about the blueprints? Does that help? Or is it that you have to design your land to accommodate one approach vs the other?

[atomic zealot]

Useless

[fallow lily]

I see 😦

[fair temple]

One vs the other. And (most) blueprints arent implemented yet to have skins made from them.

[ionic wharf]

Only if you want to collect skins.

[atomic zealot]

From a risk and ROI perspective avoid land

[fair temple]

From a fun perspective, you could enjoy it!

[cerulean steppe]

More utility will come.

[fallow lily]

I already own 3 😄 I just finally started playing since beta

[atomic zealot]

This will take 2 years if ever implemented and if the game survives this long

[fallow lily]

Having fun so far, but definitely want to start thinking of earning

[ionic wharf]

Before nerf, T2 could have gotten about 3k per week in fuel, i think.

[fair temple]

Thinking of earning only happens when there is a playerbase for the other games. Which may* happen in due time 👍

[cerulean steppe]

Don’t think so. Most of it is just buildings with some calculations on the backend.

[atomic zealot]

Do you remember how long it took them to build this current game? 4 years and over $60M that plus land is not a priority at all for them

[cerulean steppe]

I know, but these are still just buildings and Training Gyms are already on the next delivery plan.

[ionic wharf]

We need quite a lot more players 😄, hope time and updates will help. I just hope that the new player trend that we see now isn't new bots created. I would love to somehow see stats for active players.

[atomic cove]

this is not what's going to save us.

[atomic zealot]

There's a reason they aren't showing us that

[cerulean steppe]

Maybe it will. This is a way for F2P players to make a little earning, it is on mobile and it is an Illuvial focused feature. Of course we need the demand from Arena players.

[atomic cove]

F2P will come in hoardes when we have lending systems in place where whales can sponsor other players game time.

[cerulean steppe]

Yes, I said this multiple times in the past. But it is not as easy as just giving them fuel and assets to play with. Lots of scam, botting etc.that needs to be solved. And it does not help revenue if they don’t spend. Maybe the upcoming automated OW runs will do the same for sponsors.

[lethal wyvern]

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[atomic cove]

yeah those concerns are legit.

[balmy elk]

This is really tuff on a T1 land -.-

[atomic cove]

gosh we need to be able to play OW with a friend... Let me pay and bring in someone with me...

co-op mode

we do this along with a revamp combat system for the illuvial combat and we have a game

an actual game

[fair temple]

Lets refer back to GHamster's post about a townhall. See what the team is cooking. From there the community can more accurately provide ideas in line with the direction the team wants to go in :]

[tulip fox]

@noble quest

Can we please get some Milestones for Illuvium Zero? Season 1 finish soon and we still have none...

Also after 4x less Fuel adjustment, some Missions are impossible to complete and need to be fixed... How we are supposed to play to airdrop if Missions and Milestones are not created or are impossible to complete?

https://x.com/reesistancee/status/1828423876096798830

RΞSISTANCΞ (@reesistancee) on X

@illuviumio @KieranWarwick Every day I check for Illuvium Zero Milestones and still nothing 🤷‍♂️

Also, some Quests need to be adjusted after Fuel reduction because those Quests are now impossible to complete.

Message to @illuviumio team:
"Illuvium Zero needs some love too."

Twitter · Aug 27, 2024, 1:26 PM

[sand radish]

2 scanner level 2 and 3 @96%
10 times in a row nothing found -_-

[atomic cove]

oh nice more problems stemming from the fuel adjustment. Here's another nice one 🤣

if you're wondering why they have different costs. The answer is: because.

[sand radish]

Not sure price for gym should be at the hand of the player. Price should be the same depending of the level of the gym.
Reputation of the gym though is nice to put your ones on top of the list

[open stratus]

How many converters is good for a t3 ??

[thorny crater]

I put these just idea in the feedback That i liked about crypto games, and some i got back from family, friends, and boss/coworkers. ITs mostly just ideas to bring in multiplier....know what the main statement, 80%+, i got back?

• "f2p gets nothing"
• "this is crypto we are here to make money"
• "no one cares about f2p"

all these statements make me not want to play lol IF i want to get farmed for my time and money I go to work. I play videos games as an escape from that world.
#1269137697939652659 message

Just ideas, not asking for a complete revamp. That's another statement I got which is a good one though. My goal on this post was to inspire ideas, and if one of mine gets picked up kewl. if not still kewl.

[open stratus]

So yeah, how many high % converters can you expect to fit in a t3?

[thorny crater]

here are my numbers one sec

[atomic cove]

I think this goes way deeper than that. This is just the beginning of a new era of something that is already happening for some time and will get even more aggravated in the future. A war against the machines. Slowly but surely they're starting to do everything we do and do it better.

we're on the forefront of developing actual game economies with real-world connection, where humans and machine interact, that's why these systems have to be so well designed. What happens next no one knows.

[thorny crater]

Not fully maxed but almost there. My focus is BPs over fuel

[thorny crater]

T3

[thorny crater]

Tis true its why i am here. I do believe in the team, but the zero community, majority, is just here to farm me and my friends.

I want illuvium to be so successful google will want to sue them.
Why? digital ownership. Google takes our data and sales it and we get 0 while they make billions, get hacked, and everything gets our data for free and we still get nothing excepr spam calls lol

I will be dleteing silicon converts. I think i only need 2 maybe 3 to keep up with fuel production.

[thorny crater]

so might be able to add one more convertor, or just the power stations needed to get it to 143-150% efficiency.

[open stratus]

11 max converters ?

[thorny crater]

not all max yet but i have one about to be. the convert passive amount might need to go up.

Unless someon has a max convert that they can give me the passive amout of

[open stratus]

5 is same as 6 afaik

There's no increase

If that helps

[thorny crater]

this is a lvl 5

24 per 288 hours

[thorny crater]

then yup my numbers are right as, unless some finds an erro. please let me know

[open stratus]

Alright sweet. So technically squeezing a few more increases the output

Since you can go down to what like 146% you lose 1, then 134 iirc you lose another 1

[hazy tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kobe-bryant-gif-15223189

[open stratus]

Have you done the math on a bunch at like 75%ers

[thorny crater]

sure havent sorry

[open stratus]

Just wonder what to do with my open space

Can either do 2x scanners and science stuff, or try and squeeze some converters

(I know it's not pathed optimally yet, it's a wip)

[digital cloud]

Just curious if it's ever been addressed why passive fuel generation ticks aren't based on the next whole value generated and instead it's based on time cycles rounded to the nearest integer?

[thorny crater]

Im not sure mine is the "best" set up but i did find out the hard way that you can reserach a t ier one and a lvl 3 lab....but it cost lb 3 prices

so i did a lvl 1-4 on both scanner and labs for all the teirs

will add 5 once everything is more maxed

[thorny crater]

I personally never went into the math behind the whys of how things are done yet. Not sure sure the why behind the logic on your questions

[thorny crater]

evutally i will be removing pahts. because most things take 24 hours. I have not seen anything above that yet.

So i do not mind a 1 day click instead of like ever 20 hours. Ill put things closer to gether and maybe build more converters. But got a ways before i can do this. Still upgrading whihc takes days lol

16%+ off that time is important to me right now lol

[thorny crater]

Actually i dont even think i need my engineer building to be lvl 9

nor the elemt pumps/mines

[opal thistle]

I was thinking the same but maybe for storage

I could level it up

[thorny crater]

Yup only need one I think of those too.

After upgrades I don’t see the needs for the 2 I have now. I had 3 but that lvl 8 update is really good lol

[random trench]

Hi, when will the team fix the crashing issues with opening plots filled with path?

does anyone know? been unable to play for days

[opal thistle]

I don't know....The team is aware o the issue, I'll ask what the status of the fix is

[glossy otter]

Im really curious why they not giving any benefit to their investors 😄 like land owner should get multipler for airdrop etc

[rotund forum]

most things take 24 hours yes, but if it were really 24 hours you´d be every day playing a bit later... 10 minutes, or whatever. The path bonus for me is quite confortable because you end up with a cycle of 20 or 21 hours.

[ocean haven]

we dont give benefits to asset owners around here, but you can get a 75% descrease in fuel overnight np

[rotund forum]

that sounds indeed way better than nft holder. I feel richer already! 😅

[stiff talon]

Will Immutable ever add the ability to send offers for unlisted plots? And would be cool if they could add a feature where you could trade NFT for NFT as well as the ability to add crypto as part of the exchange.

[thorny crater]

true. i was on the same path but after some talk in here. i dont mind the 1 tiome a day if i can increase labs/convertors

[azure sonnet]

Do you need all 5 facts on a biodata to find a blueprint?

[timber sapphire]

No, a fact just increases the chance of finding the blueprint

[open stratus]

Yeah I'll can some storage for sure. 3 of each I think is too much for a t3. I might build more fuel storage instead and hoard until we get an update

[open stratus]

I agree with this for sure. I'm gonna keep my path bonus as high as possible. I'm not about to stress a minmax for a couple fuel a day tbh

[near tusk]

but it still says 5%

[upper whale]

Can someone share a T4 land with path bonus = 20%+ ? 😄

[rotund forum]

I´m not setting the clock to click fuel in the middle of the night. I have done it 🙈 but no... best to work towards that same evening time frame and do everything there.

my T4 scanner catches this 🥳 and my T5 scanner catches .... another monkey. 🙈 Expensive T1 biodata that was.

[rotund forum]

yeah I think it is wrong just as the "cost" here is mentioned wrong.

[pearl marten]

same here 😄 ... my T5 didn't find anything better than a T2, but my lvl 4 scanner...

[rotund forum]

ohhh nice mate!

[pearl marten]

Thanks ... you too! nice one!

[rotund forum]

so the scanners first have to find biodata, that is a 1/20 shot every 24 hours you find any illuvial of your scannerlevel or less. That seems hard but if you have 3-4-5 scanners it is "the easy part".

[twin knot]

and that is if efficiency is at 100%...

[rotund forum]

the hard part is I think the biolabs. again 24h for 1/20 shot of finding either an illuvial or one of 5 facts. So 1/6 shot. If you are lucky you find the blueprint directly. If not the facts go reducing the odds... next time that particular illuvial is 1/5 then 1/4 etc. BUT I now realize there is more than 2 blueprints per illuvial so basically.... whoever thought you gotta catch them all was a special kind of sadist 🫣 . It will take years

[rotund forum]

oh yeah, you gotta love how hard they actually made this. To catch something is easy but to complete one stage of one illuvial is a monks work

[pearl marten]

I haven't seen any T3 stage3 or above(T4s3 or T5s3) blueprints so far
I have a stage 3 lynx BP but that took days until i could get it

[rotund forum]

How many different blueprints are there?? There must really be hundreds, no?¿ and by the time you have 2% they´ll release the next wave of illuvials 🤪

[pearl marten]

so yeah .. there are a lot .. i mean let's take just for Atlas -> 18 different suits so 18 BPs + 4 drones = 22 different BPs/illuvial type and stage

[rotund forum]

I haven´t even seen biodata like that. I have 1 T5s1. True there are not that many T5 biolabs out there so far. They cost a week to level up from 4, so yeah, seeing the revenue people are not paying for 1000 coins for one biolab update.

[rotund forum]

yeah that is absolutely undoable.

[twin knot]

T1 blueprints (36 illuvials x 18 suit lines) is 648 blueprints

[twin knot]

digged out the info from previous chat in this channel

dont know about other tiers though...

[rotund forum]

there are over 200 illuvials, so times 22 = 4400 😱

so basically if you had 5 biolabs and you hit the jackpot of finding a blueprint each day on all 5 it would take still 2.5 years.

[graceful siren]

Problem is the game is not making even a fraction of the revenue they hoped and zero makes no income so we are zero priority. The fact the land sale raised about 70 mil is by the by

Team have always been decent. My hope is if they pull the ecosystem off, they find a way to make us whole. If the game doesn’t succeed, ultimately we all take a bath whatever you are holding: land, tokens, illuvials

[rotund forum]

With 5 attempts each day at a 5% chance per attempt, it would take approximately 478 years to find all 4,400 options.

crazy numbers

[gritty wave]

yep at this point we might as well be as constructive as possible or sell and get out

[gritty wave]

hence why they could be valuable

[rotund forum]

yeah, I don´t see the light at the end of the tunnel, but what is done is done. I hope the masses get more and more into web3 gaming, and when we are more in the spotlight because we are the number 1 web3 game out there we have a shot of making some more money than we invested.

[rotund forum]

yeah, all we need is a few million of collector freaks with rather deep pockets and then we´re good 🤪

[gritty wave]

and if we get lucky and get another bull in the next 6 months or so there is always more money sloshing around in the system that finds it way to things like this

[graceful siren]

Honestly big issue it seems to me is all 3 games are super high production value but they are boring to play. I am not sure why anyone would play hours of overworld a day and drop big money to do so. That’s the problem they need to fix

[rotund forum]

god let´s hope so. but I think the bull run is shrinking every time since the start quite a lot so the x1000´s are mostly a thing of the past. If it goes x5-10 that would be just fine by me.

[rotund forum]

well, people spend many hours a day on battle royals just endlessly shooting at one another. How that doesn´t get boring but hunting creatures is, is beyond my understanding

[gritty wave]

that was an issue we say coming for a while...too much focus on the look of rocks, not enough on look of the game

[rotund forum]

graphically the game looks nice. But there is the first problem, it won´t run on mobile and in the near future maybe on high end models. This is like a 5 star restaurant no one is willing or able to pay. If you have a mc donalds instead, you sell to the masses. Something like candy crush, which runs on everything.

[strong pewter]

Anyone have a TLDR on what makes for path efficiency?

[gritty wave]

do you have to have the nexus at certain levels to hit certain percents also?

[orchid apex]

whats bluestacks my man?

[fair temple]

it's an app on PC to emulate android

[gritty wave]

so tired of spaming power stations lol

[rotund forum]

Yeah, they also gave great emphasis on lore, saying that it is essential. We haven´t seen much of it but I´m sure they have novels written by now that might end up in some dark archive for nobody to ever read. Lore, just as graphics, are not the key elements what will make this game a succes.

I would actually buy some merch, a jacket or tshirt or something but again, maybe not for the masses. It is quite expensive

you must admit, the setup is quite ambitious to become a mega hit someday. But it might all just implode. You know the movie waterworld? this might end up with the same fate... huge spending but then somehow nobody goes to see it. It´s a pity for all those involved

[gritty wave]

that has also been disappointing as they could have leaked what we know now last year to keep building excitement...I would like to see some only because it was promised to be amazing...but so far? meh

[open stratus]

Ahhh about to get my first scanner going finally. Still a ton of work to do gd

[drifting kestrel]

how can I generate Blueprints in Illuvium Zero?

[little moon]

you need to build scanners to scan for bio data

then you need to build material lab to scan the bio datas found

[drifting kestrel]

I am already did it, in fact I have found several Biodatas

[little moon]

ok, if you have built material labs

you can use the material labs to research those biodatas

[drifting kestrel]

Yes, I have it

[little moon]

then research those biodatas

the result would be any of these - 1. nothing found, 2. fact found or 3. BP found

[drifting kestrel]

Do you mean I should rescan those Biodatas where I found results in the Material Labs?

[little moon]

yes, hit the material lab and there will be an option to reseach... select that

it will take 24 hours

[drifting kestrel]

ok, I got it, can I write to you if I have another question?

[little moon]

yeah, here.... no DMs

[upper whale]

Can someone share a T4 land with path bonus = 20%+ ?

[atomic cove]

@wary notch add me for PM.

Any landowners here with lots of lands yet to be worked on that would like to rent them?

[open stratus]

16 converters ?

[upper whale]

thnx

[undone cedar]

so conecting buildings matter on % not just more roads

[ivory badger]

Does I higher lvl material lab give a better chance at getting a blueprint?

[thorny crater]

Nope I get 35/288 hours so my math is off. I’ll repost a pic update in a bit

Right now I was guessing at max lvl 6 on a t3 at 150% it would stay 24/288hours

[thorny crater]

Nope just higher lvl researching

BUT

I learned this the hard way. If you research a tier 1 in a lab lvl 3 it will cost that lab 3 price in fuel.

So, I’m BP focused, i have 4 of each scanner and lab but will have 5 one day.

[manic ginkgo]

is anybody satisfied with your land purchase?

[dusty bear]

How many biodatas, blueprints, and facts are out there?

[manic ginkgo]

How do you rank?

[unreal oak]

anybody here made eth withdrawal to metamask wallet? how long is the processing time? mine is 4 days pending

[twilit bough]

from IMX? thats a two step process, you authorize it and the next day in general activate the transfer

[thorny crater]

update i had 25 per 288 hours but at lvl 6 it is 35 per 288 hours passive converting:

also change the price from 0.0000017 to 0.0000016 for what it is selling at this moment

[compact nebula]

Wen wen ILZ bug fixes?

[atomic zealot]

Brutal

[versed warren]

I actually enjoy the strategy of trying to maximize fuel out put, but unfortunately cant say im pleased with my purchase in terms of actually making any profit from the game. But the game it self isn't really the issue.

[thorny crater]

its cosumer experience aka fun

no eay im going work a 9-5 just so i can come home to get farmed for my money in a game for someone else ROI lol

[versed warren]

The caveat to what i just said above though, is do people really expect to play a VIDEO GAME and become rich? Like if the game is fun and you would play it anyway without crypto and profit in mind, is a 5 or 10 year roi really bad at all?

[noble willow]

I like the creation part but as said before am looking for more option for specialisation. I also got land to help with fuel for overworld so am not necessarily looking at this to get direct profits.

[thorny crater]

If they make fuel usabale by land owners that would be cool, but would just over supply/inflate the current market.

that said i cant wait for the multiper part, and maybe something to help build teams

MY little brohter started play TFT like 3 days ago lol he said there is something to test teams or help you build teams?

[versed warren]

If your talking about ILVZ, it takes me about 6 min a day, 3 in the morning 3 before bed, to click and collect my feul, do an upgrade and move on.

For OW I agree in terms of i wont be playing it, but someones needed to play it so I can buy my team to play arena which in my opinion is the most enjoyable game out of the 3

[thorny crater]

i was never into arena for this game. just OW and my fav Zero, but zero i am almost done

[thorny crater]

Im trying to get into it more, arena, its a massive learning curve lol

in gauntlet i also run out of time, and idk how those mud/spore/etc types work at all.....but i love sim city and OW catch'em all

IMO ow is where its at or hopefully one day should be at. And the other two are the extra games that build off it lol

[versed warren]

Well I agree with that, and now that its about 100-150$ to buy a team, theres a barrier to enter because people dont know which Illuvials to buy.

I actually plan on making simple followable videos for arena because I want to see more people playing it.

[thorny crater]

I go to YouTube and watch videos on it lol. I like gauntlet bc i don't have to buy anything, and my little bro said its just like tft

he got 2ndplace today lol

[versed warren]

No offense to the youtubers who do arena content, but there really is no good guides yet.

[thorny crater]

true. i seen basics how gauntlet works but have no clue what im doing. plus lobbies would be nice

[atomic zealot]

You're missing something very obvious tho, there's plenty of web 2 games out there...for free where you don't have to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars and get a much more fun and polished game

[thorny crater]

just need a good story

thats for one. we have regions unlocked FOREVER and i have no clue why

if you found all the recordings, by luck, you get a jift of what is going on....but i have no connection. nothing that makes me or other want to cosplay these chars

Games to me are the action form of reading a good book

well story games*

[manic ginkgo]

I might play OW. But there is no controller support that I am aware of. I can't use the keyboard to play worth a crap.

Anybody know how to play OW with a controller?

[thorny crater]

I just started using keyboad like 5 months ago lol

i was pressured 😅 but no i hvae no clue sorry

[noble willow]

let me know if you want to sell your land lol

[thorny crater]

naw this will be me to the very end lol

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-i-will-go-down-with-this-ship-i-regret-nothing-boat-gif-17284666

[noble willow]

and if you went in expecting a profit and counting on it you aren't built for crypto

[thorny crater]

there are other who might though. lots of ROI talks within a month of beta release

But from what i can tell they have about a year to find there niche in this market

its very new, at lest for me crypto games a very new

[noble willow]

it's still beta. finished game is way off yes, but the bulk of public players aren't even targeted yet...........
Storylines to come
Pvp in overworld
raids

true questing

[thorny crater]

im very hopeful 🙂

[digital cloud]

I really hope so

There's a lot that can be done in a year... So I'm watching closely and hoping to see the right updates coming out

[noble willow]

easiest way to 100% kill it is to trash it, burn it to the ground and leave........

[thorny crater]

but for my ROI if i break even in 5 years with current fuel prices id be happy with that

no game ever paid me back before lol

[noble willow]

the long game is the plan. who knows whether there will be internet in 18 months given current world state

[manic ginkgo]

I am very close to selling my land and being done with the whole illuvium universe!

[noble willow]

again if so let me know. What do you have? Not trying to rush you out lol, just interested when people go what's available

[knotty sable]

I’m using a gamesir PlayStation like controller from Amazon. I still have to use the mouse for a certain things, but for the most part, I use the controller.

[noble willow]

nice I forgot to try again with my xbox controller after moving to the current release

[knotty sable]

Yeah I’m not good at games with the keyboard. I just made sure the controller was compatible with Windows 11. I’ve had no issues.

[plucky venture]

Artistic mock-ups.

[noble willow]

as a curiosity question what were original mint costs? I can't remember for the life of me, only got plots last month

[digital cloud]

I see your point... I'm just hoping the response from open beta sends a clear message about what the priority needs to be and identifying what the market really wants in AAA gaming

[eternal rock]

guys, my withdraw is 3 days old, is this normal?

[digital cloud]

I've seen some T1s mint at around 1 eth and maybe +/- .25 range around that

Well, if that's true, they'll show it in the next few months to half a year and that'll be about the time I'll probably bounce

Just another sign a project is DOA when quality of product suffers in favour of pumping numbers artificially

[broken roost]

what strategy? 😂

[versed warren]

Squeezing out the most amount of fuel possible.

[broken roost]

thats.. not a strtaegy but ok

[versed warren]

Do you own land?

[undone dagger]

Dollar amount-wise I think the lowest T1 minted at $600

[digital cloud]

Yeah... I don't understand this council system we've got. Since the votes are based on staked ILV, we're really beholden to whether the token-holders are in it for the long haul themselves, or if they're even paying attention to who they're voting for

I honestly haven't been following in those details until the most recent epoch, but even then it was a lot of information to sift through... My stake wasn't big enough to make a difference anyways 😕

[plucky venture]

I paid 4.5 ETH for T3 at auction. 2.3 ETH for T4 last week. That T4 is already Nexus 8, and probably push Nexus 9, tomorrow. Some of my T1's will never achieve this. T2 might, but only because I had decent progress before the nerf. Would have been kneecapped hard if just starting out.

Basically bought it to bring ROI to all plots faster.

But I don't care as much if ROI is achieved. What I'd rather is have it hold some value so that I can play for a few years, collect things, then maybe think about selling parts of the collection. The collectible angle of the game is what attracted me, but the things need to be worth collecting. So far, neither lands nor illuvials are worth crap.

[noble willow]

holy shit

[rugged abyss]

Does anyone hacing problems with the points for the airdrop ? I have no activiy in my account and I habe been playinf and doing missions for a while

[random siren]

probably just a UI bug

[ornate bramble]

I use my PS5 controller and reWASD for controller mapping. Works well.

[unreal oak]

any advice wha to do whith this? its pending for 4 days

[vivid cipher]

Contact immutable X support on the immmutavle x website.

[fickle loom]

ILZ was crashing on my IOS. (At the moment after choosing the Plot). Now I have deletet it and downloaded over TestFlight again. But it just shows the loading screen and I am not able to choose the plot after. What shall I do?

[vivid cipher]

Do not use TestFlight.

[fickle loom]

oh, ok. Thanks. I just realised it is only crashing after choosing a plot if it is the test plot. Any ideas?

[vivid cipher]

Not other than the testflight build being the issue.

[fickle loom]

As you said I deinstalled the testflight and ILZ App and downloaded from the app store. Now it is still crashing if I choose the testplot

[vivid cipher]

Then use the in game issue reporter to report it

[fickle loom]

ok

thanks

[tame zenith]

hi, Could someone explain to me what the roads are for? I don't see the effect it has in game

[hearty cedar]

connect your buildings, it makes them run faster.

[tame zenith]

ah ok, thx 🙂

[minor hazel]

1% faster for every 10 buildings connected to the same continuous road

[tame zenith]

ok thx for information

[uneven holly]

Is there a way to transfer Fuel from land to your own account?

[vague tide]

Anyone here can push to 21%? I'm sure my 202 building touch the path but i only see it down to 20%

[cosmic spade]

still no news to megacity release??

[minor hazel]

capped at 20% regardless

[ionic wharf]

Not at the moment, no.

[pearl marten]

Almost 5 weeks have passed since launch that means that megacities should be ready in 3-7 weeks as stated many times by Kieran at least

[cosmic spade]

But I’m curious, thanks for your feedback!

[pearl marten]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1237926169756696628
Here it is .. and according to this Podarium and BP minting should be available in 1-3 weeks from now

@cosmic spade Don't get your hopes up though as it was already broken .. owners should have received a bonus to production for the plots forming a Megacity but that never happened

[tardy falcon]

voted for landowner friendly candidates ✊

[hexed talon]

@vivid cipher hello! Any support about LZ here?

[silk edge]

how much fuel is selling

[atomic zealot]

Feels like the whole game is being abandoned

[barren urchin]

When land rent will start

[empty path]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[barren urchin]

[hexed talon]

Ya you are right. It’s already 1 month support no responds

[barren urchin]

I think if thier is more automation in illivium zero it will be better for example farming I don’t have time to click each time can you guys just make it farm by it self with automation click so no need to click

More

[shut wave]

Is this a dark hollow biodata?

What iv found so far on on of my plots! Dont know what this will bring in the long run, but hoping for a good outcome when this blueprints go live! 😀

[empty path]

Why is 201 max level

[empty path]

Woah

[timber sapphire]

Kieran timelines are like dogyears, x7 for more realistic

[rugged abyss]

So I guess there is noneed to do anyyhing more than play right ?

[open stratus]

Well, I'm tapped out for now until we can use our own fuel I guess

Bummer, my team was just starting to come together

[lost walrus]

And then we have tier 1 land almost not possible to get biodata

And then fails 4 time in a row. Fun fun

[timber sapphire]

Tier 2 too

[ionic wharf]

I can get more passively generated with Hyperion and Solon but not with Crypton when upgrading to lvl 6

[thorny crater]

What’s the % and tier lvl?

[ionic wharf]

150%

T2

Does the converter count be causing this? 4 Crypton, 3 Solon and 3 Hyperion

[rugged abyss]

I didn’t know that. At that lvl they may add a new resouece to the land 😜

[empty path]

Seems like a bug

[thorny crater]

I thinks it’s the tier lvl why it’s lower.

I haven’t done calculations for a t2 or other plots yet just my t3

I’m a little confused on this BP
the biodata is a tier 2 stage 3, but the drone BP is a stage 1?

Yeah the numbers don’t match. This much be for a t4

Yeah it’s confusing I agree. My hype converter gets 35/288hours or 35/12days. Guessing it has to do with landmarks/tier levels

I haven’t seen one thing/aspect of crypto that is “intuitive” lol everything is an hour+ of learning…so imo this is right up the crypto alley where I’ll need AI to do the math or explain it to me lol

[ionic wharf]

Mine doesn’t have landmarks.

[thorny crater]

Mine is a t3 with an ethereal spring land mark. But it says it’s for hydro

[thorny crater]

The 12 + 100% part. What is the 100%?

Just (12+”12”)*1.5 is the formula?

Honestly idk what a cycle is lol

[foggy sage]

any one elses sale orders look like this?

[thorny crater]

Ah gotcha lol.

[last tiger]

finally nexus 9 still some tweaks to do I was focus on the most converters I could put on the plot any tips?

or ideas?

[timber sapphire]

Needs more powerstations (just kidding)

[last tiger]

maybe they change that soon

[drifting kestrel]

Hi, someone speak Spanish?

[timber sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-english-spanish-english-or-spanish-baby-you-got-something-in-your-nose-gif-14013503461190926977

[last tiger]

okok thanks bro i think i could do better cuz we dont need 150% on converters but i will wait for the new patches

[open stratus]

How many converters

[last tiger]

I'm Portuguese and i was in Catalunya

[last tiger]

atm i think 16 but i think i could push to 18

[open stratus]

What tier

[timber sapphire]

I thought 12 was the max?

[last tiger]

2

[last tiger]

12 of each

from what i know

[timber sapphire]

Oh shit I need to readjust everything

[open stratus]

I got 13 on my t3, but chose to put a scanner instead of squeeze like 2 or 3 more 🤣

[last tiger]

im not into scanners atm

[open stratus]

My other t3 will be full converters, started better on it. Better spacing. Less to fix 🤣

[timber sapphire]

Might take a couple months before they implement the blueprint minting anyway

[last tiger]

i will try new ways to buils as soon i have a new plot

[last tiger]

yeah

[open stratus]

Yeah, working it slowly

[last tiger]

i know some are very rare but i think they wont worth much like the alpha ones

[drifting kestrel]

guys, I have a question. I'm currently playing Illuvium Zero and I have no idea how to get the Blueprints. I have my Singularity Scanner, I've found several Biodatas to research in the Materials Lab, but then what should I do? I've also found some Facts

[timber sapphire]

I thought they said the alpha ones can be get now too

[open stratus]

I need to be able to send fuel to OW soon though

I'm out of eth so cannot play

[last tiger]

im not sure what i heard is that for us that already find them they dont appear again i think

[last tiger]

farm plants and rocks on stage 0

[timber sapphire]

When scanning biodata it can fail, get facts or get blueprint. Getting facts increases the chance of getting a blueprint when scanning again

[open stratus]

For free ? Why

[drifting kestrel]

When you say rescan, do you mean scanning to the same Biodata that I got the data from?

[timber sapphire]

Oh yeah that's true, but I meant for others that didn't get them yet

[last tiger]

ingots are 2 cents and plants are useful for battles imo

[timber sapphire]

Yes

[open stratus]

Oh if I wanted to I could sell some illuvials, or shards or whatever

But I don't want to sell just to play a little more

Rather keep my scoriox and holo scarabok etc

[drifting kestrel]

Ok, thanks a lot. Any recommendations for building the city the best way?

[timber sapphire]

What tier?

[open stratus]

3 tell me 🤣

[drifting kestrel]

Tier 3

Level 197

[timber sapphire]

Oh you can go for fuel and scanning then

[thorny crater]

si

[timber sapphire]

I have a t2 so can't say for sure but I think @thorny crater has done a lot of research for t3

[drifting kestrel]

Yes, I can. I currently have Crypton, Hyperion and Solon +300 units each. But I was quite confused about the Blueprints and how to get them

[thorny crater]

MY plot is BP focus not fuel focused but here you go. Still in the middle of maxing out everything, last two fuels should be today.

I can still add more, will add anoter scanner and lab so i can have lvls 1-5....beacsue if you reearch a t1 biodata on a lvl 3 lab it will cost the lab 3 price

bito data and BPs. I dleted all the biodta i have found on my t2 though, so just about all the t1 stage 1s.....tapopee i just got him lol and his stage 3 from two scanners lol

this morning

[hazy tartan]

I think he means run t0 and get cents for your efforts m, f2p it

[thorny crater]

t0 is great for ringnuts

[hazy tartan]

Every consumable fr

[thorny crater]

just grab a crap ton of those, you can feed them to your mons before battles in the paid stages

i do nont mine anything stage1+ except crystals. and most of the time only the green ones

[hazy tartan]

Paid runs are for for shards and mons only imo

[thorny crater]

true. i grab only plants for t0 and they work well too in the other paid stages lol

true true. t0 i dont even have to think. just shoot everything and have fun. stage 1+ i have to do accounting work blah

how will this rock cost to shoot, how much is this plant, blah blah blah....not fun lol

[hazy tartan]

I haven’t even ever needed anything besides a ringnut fr

[drifting kestrel]

@thorny crater Is it random to get Blueprints? Or does leveling up the Materials Lab help you at all?

[thorny crater]

on stage two those power egs are really good, same with the circle fruit for the tanks, give moire restances and hp. but i only use t0 stuff lol

also the brain looking one for exp growth

[thorny crater]

lvl up labs just helps get higher tiers only. everything is 5%...that said facts are supposed to increase per the illluvial that has the fact/s, but idlk where to find that % at

[signal canyon]

how do i get facts?

[thorny crater]

resreach in labs

you get nothing, a fact, or a BP

[signal canyon]

ahh thanks

[thorny crater]

got this one this morning but im confues on the stage of the BP

the mon is a tier 2 stage 3 the bp is a stage 1 lol

these are my facts i dont have many honeslty except atlas lol

[upper cloud]

struggling t1 land

[opal thistle]

Facts are very hard to come by I only got 1 🥲. But I won't push too much BP until I'm at max fuel production capacity

[vivid cipher]

Technical support is not available on discord. But you seem to know where to submit reports to support. I am more than willing to answer questions. Usually #❓❗〕community-help is the best channel not to get your questions lost.

But now that you’ve pinged a mod feel free to ask your question and maybe I’ll have an easy solution.

[thorny crater]

Whats up with the stages of BPs? i was thinking it would match the stage of the illuvial biodata.

Seem like BPS also have rarity ins tages when foudn too, if i had to guess

[prisma trout]

@opal thistle
I've gotten a couple, but on Atlas. He's mt fav & got one first scan on f2p. I haven't been able to scan on the land plot yet. I'm kind of stuck trying to upgrade storage to try & mine fuel to up grade needed buildings, which in turn are needed to upgrade storage...lol

[open stratus]

Love seeing pictures of others people's lands

That's a t1 I guess?

[thorny crater]

not gunna lie this scared the hell of me lol. When he said "reset" i was thinking like erased but he just truend the building off and on again lol

https://tenor.com/view/stickergiant-restart-turn-it-off-turn-it-on-it-gif-24960297

we good though haha

[open stratus]

I mean what is that 18 converters ? That's wild

[thorny crater]

you can get BPs on f2p plots?

[open stratus]

@south mural

What should I do with the space

12 converters rn most are 140+ and a 99% scanner

For what though

Mine is t3 though I ain't have them problems

[midnight prawn]

Is there a maximum amount of fuel converterters I can build?

[open stratus]

I figure I have space for 2 more converters realistically

To get me to 14. Plus a scanner. May call it a day there 🤣

My other t3 has a better start, better spacing so I can do it properly from the start

[open stratus]

12 per fuel type I've seen it said. Cannot confirm nor deny

[midnight prawn]

Oh ok, I have 12 crypton converters and cant build any more of them so seems like the limit is 12

[copper inlet]

@robust widget we may have to change our message here 🤣

[open stratus]

Good lord 36 converters ? Assuming a terrible % though

[robust widget]

@copper inlet Good point, I see how that might be scary 🤣

[open stratus]

I guess you could just delete everything else except power stations though lol

Space 36 converters as best you can around the perimeter. Fill around with PS. Win.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/dicaprio-maybe-gif-20413224

[open stratus]

God really that bad

You could do a sweet diamond, and maybe push it though

To 70 or 80

Either way, not sure it's worth the time to try even

You don't even need resources at that point though

Yeah but you have both sides with PS

[signal jewel]

Hello, is it possible to transfer fuel to other plots you own? Thanks!

[digital cloud]

Hey everyone. Can you please check out this idea I posted. I'm hoping to create a stronger use case for the 3 fuel economy and add a layer of strategy and depth to Illuvium: https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1278368447792943116

[radiant sky]

not yet

[open stratus]

Don't even know what you're getting at here. It lacks clarity.

[digital cloud]

What is unclear about it?

[open stratus]

Like you trying to change basic fundamentals of the game on a whim idea that you think might work

Illuvial pool based on a fuel type means what? We already have a purpose for the 3 fuel types

[digital cloud]

I see. So instead of just crypton to access the different stages, we also have the option to access Solon or Hyperion stages. Each fuel type will be attributed to a different set of Illuvials, just like how Pokemon Red and blue had different pokemon that were only available to their respective versions.

[gleaming rampart]

Hello, what is this ? Green ball in center of my land ...

thanks for you awnser but dont understand i dont have this in beta... i cannot build on ?

[digital cloud]

We do have a purpose for the 3 fuel types, but their uses are too independent from each other that it makes more sense for people to favor a single fuel system. If we want to create a more interactive use case for 3 unique fuels, wouldn't it make more sense that we also have unique Illuvials attributed to each unique fuel type so it feels more like how classic pokemon splits up their pools of pokemon?

[gleaming rampart]

Sorry but i have a problem ive got T1 with 3 fuel site and 3 element site... + greend landmark in the middle i dont understand

in beta i have only one fuel site + one of each element (3) and no landmark

You know why ? x)

[digital cloud]

Aren't most of the ideas proposed on feedback trying to change fundamentals of the game already? How is this any different?

And it's not really a whimsical idea... Popular and successful games like Pokemon have done this exact thing

[gleaming rampart]

Oh noooooooooooooooo

i pay for 3 worker on it U_u

Transfer but for what ? :x

[open stratus]

Perhaps I just didn't understand, I got it now. Interesting idea actually

[digital cloud]

Thanks. I'll try to amend the post to make it more clear next time

[open stratus]

Ah OK. You would know better than I

[open stratus]

It would add a rarity factor based on the fuel type. Not sure we have enough illuvials to support such a split though

[digital cloud]

Yes, as it stands now, it might not make sense to do, but I suggest this as a future idea after we get over the current hurdle with the fuel drama

And for future releases of new waves of illuvials

[radiant sky]

as Super Hamster already mentioned, it's the f2p plot you are playing on.
To be able to play your nft lands, you either need to transfer them into passport or you can link a wallet in your passport settings.

Liking wallet:
https://illuvium.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/10406704244495-How-to-add-an-External-Wallet-to-your-Passport-Account

[atomic zealot]

How has fuel been selling for landowners?

[thorny crater]

I did not want to call him out hahah but glad it was fixed. Thanks!

[digital cloud]

@thorny crater do you mind checking this thread out? I remember you saying you want me to let you know when I post something in feedback so I'd like to get more discussion in there if possible!
https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1278368447792943116

[atomic zealot]

Iol I was genuinely asking, wanted to gauge demand...

Remember pre land and illuvitar sales how many AMAs the team was doing

Ahhh

The beauty of web3

[timber sapphire]

Why not upgrade instead of that many storages?

I see well done ser

[rugged abyss]

I’m doing more or less the same, but what about space for scanning ?

[mortal mural]

this is probably already answred but here it goes. why do some converters go up to X passive at level 6 and some others stay the same from 5 to 6? does anybody know?

[thorny crater]

There you go gave my feed back. I am at work so i had to be quick about it lol but you can see my point of views on it at least.

[mortal mural]

ok, i thought i maybe built too many of one kind of converters, and was reluctant on upgrading.

gotcha thx for quick response. will do the same then

are these the t1 values?

[stoic rapids]

did fuel prices collapse again?

[west elk]

Hey everyone,

I'm not sure if this has already been suggested (I'd propose it myself, but I don't have the necessary permissions in Feedback Ideas), but I had a thought: what if we introduced an edit mode in ILV Zero? The idea is inspired by Clash of Clans, where you can rearrange your plot by starting from scratch with your existing buildings. This would allow us to configure everything more efficiently, rather than having to move each piece one by one to an empty spot, then rearrange and test if it works.

What do you think?

[stoic rapids]

sounds incredible

[open stratus]

Yeah I have seen this idea kicked around before.

I have generally given up on the idea of rearranging at this point. Too long, too much to do, not enough space

[west elk]

Awesome, exactly! Everything’s already maxed out at 150%, but I think I can squeeze in 1 or 2 extra buildings with a better configuration.

[mortal mural]

im just trying to calculate aproximate max output to calculate roi on my lands by tier

[quick temple]

i have daily quest to extract silicon, but i have no silicon spots in the land... is there way to stop the daily?

i cant do any milestones and weeklies coz of this

[tardy falcon]

I'm noticing fuel prices very slowly trending down a little but... are we seeing less OW players or more lands becoming fuel ready?

[hazy tartan]

Definitely less OW players, airdrops been decided for the most part. Also probably true on the second half

Add in those who own land who refuse to play OW without their own fuel

[tardy falcon]

ah yahh... I'm just saving fuel and waiting now

[hazy tartan]

No point to spend my fuel rn when I can hold to attack next airdrop

[thorny crater]

I am fuel poor right now lol

focused on maxing everything while maintaining 4 labs going 24/7. paused scanning cause i have so much to research and need to update databank

[thorny crater]

I put this in feed back to. one building at a time is gross haha

same with filtering on the illuvidex. I want to put all my filter on then hit search, bc load for every click is gross too haha

[meager flint]

Anyone else having problems to log in iPhone?

[twilit bough]

@bitter glade an idea for the land: could the land craft EXP potions? with a new building to do so. The exp potions would help levelling up the illuvials and could be sold on the market place or to the DAO that would take a fee. Tier 0 could do potion for tier 0 illuvials, tier 1 for tier 2 and below, tier 2 for tier 3 and below illuvials, etc and tier 4 for tier 5 and below. Or it could be something for megacities

[thorny crater]

i was at 2400 two-3 days ago 😫

[twilit bough]

or some EXP farm on the land where we put illuvials to train

[hazy tartan]

Yeah threw for the most part in there cause the backend will shift but the big big spenders/players buying fuel most aren’t budging

[spice vector]

you’ll go up again soon 😉

[radiant sky]

https://discord.com/channels/760344898200666112/1267946993477746822

[thorny crater]

I was trying to complete the t0 s2/3 ones. but got caught up in survival last night. took 3 trys to get to 12 haha

i was like well zamn i think i got worse....but some waves were extra hard it seems lol

[spice vector]

some waves can be, but i see it as a good thing. forces me to try something different - like ranger placement

[thorny crater]

exactly what happened. I want to get better at gauntlet but don't want to go to tft like my brother wants me to do haha so i been trying my best

my record is lvl 26 in survival no youtube vids. Im pretty proud of it

well... no youtuve vide for a step by step aspect. used them for team builds. i suck at thinking that through right now

[thorny crater]

This is a T3 focused on BPs but i also calculated if i sold all fuel at todays price of

0.0000016 (solon is higher today but just a rough draft)

so i have a 5-10 year ROI which is great to me. For a real property the ROI is between 12-20+ years dealing with renting and what not.

in the same field, house flippers remind me more of some of the illuvium land owners crowd. Get in, fix up, make the big sell and get out, on to the next project/house

This does not include any skin/BP sales which i think is the best thing to focus on for Lands. I am thinking fort night skin sales.....I just do not fully understand everything about BPs as of now

[thorny crater]

for example i realized today that BPs have stages too

[open stratus]

Pretty happy. Just about done with my first t3. Need to upgrade everything but at least most of the buildings are there. (Couple more PS here and there ofc)

[stoic rapids]

yeah but a real property doesn't have an 80% chance of evaporating within 5 years

better analogy is angel investor but with 0 legal protections

[foggy sage]

thats also numbers as of right now the DAO council of elite gamers could cut fuel by another 75% and dao could generate 100:1 u just dont know

[thorny crater]

yes it does lol how is Florida doing with the no insurance on some props, 1987 black Friday, 2008 lol

those are jsut a few.

[quiet vector]

Does anyone have the immutablezKEVM ETH contract?

[thorny crater]

not to mention no property taxes, no roof care, no upkeep other than signing click a few buttons and make a sell.

[heavy hamlet]

Managed to get to 30 last week but with an absolute cheese team of predators and vanguard, but they’ve made it harder since

[atomic cove]

@unborn pilot add me for PM

https://x.com/X_Filow/status/1828905523967885537

Filow (@X_Filow) on X

Exciting news, @illuviumio community!

If you're a landowner with more land than you can manage, this is for you!

There's now a way to rent out your land plots and let others build on them for you—thanks to @lootrush.

They're well-known in the web3 space but new to Illuvium.

Twitter · Aug 28, 2024, 9:20 PM

If anyone has more land than they are currently working on, check out LootRush!

There's now a way to rent out your land plots and let others build on them for you.

[vapid jolt]

Excited to be able to support the Illuvium Zero community❤️

[thorny crater]

I felt it last night for sure! It’s was like stage 3, I think 7-8 that where like ftw haha

I try to build and “even” team but ended up with 3 bulwark types that at level 14 and it’s was a wrap lol

But I got the weekly so mission accomplished…slowly haha

[ivory timber]

Geesus, 80% chance, peoppe better stop buying houses and buy more BTC.

[radiant sky]

#💰〕token better suited for discussions like this 🙂

[waxen sluice]

Zero hangs at start on mac for me - anyone else having this issue?

[foggy sage]

oh snaps time to start renting my fully built t4 lands

[radiant sky]

tried deactivating vpn?
maybe passport login pop up not showing?
maybe try to reboot the app/system

[waxen sluice]

tried all this, passport login not showing. Also re-installed but still hangs.

...just fixed. Not sure what was the issue. thx.

[radiant sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hooray-sponge-bob-patrick-yey-celebrate-gif-15670049

[hazy tartan]

What is the benefit for the rentee

I just don’t quite understand the process

[atomic cove]

yeah why would you rent fully built T4 lands? 🤔

[atomic cove]

they keep everything produced in the landplot during the rental period for themselves.

[foggy sage]

so others can use them to play zero while i earn a little money that isnt effected by the DAO of elite gamers

[atomic cove]

but what is there to play if the plot is already fully built? 😅

[hazy tartan]

So they pay to sell fuel?

That sounds worse than owning a land

[atomic cove]

these would be for those that can't afford to buy a land for example

or if the daily rental price is lower than what you could sell in fuel

[winter ivy]

this m8 is dope @south mural

[foggy bison]

About every other plant I want to clear, instead of saying Completed it restarts a new 6h countdown. Is this normal?

[grand silo]

gm Zero fans, another day another scan:)

[vague tide]

Can your path give you 21% reduce?

[strong pewter]

How do you get to 20?

I'm at like 4% with nex6

[uneven atlas]

That’s just buildings touching a road right?

[strong pewter]

What phase power building is that

uh, Power Station IV, V, VI?

I’m rook, sorry

[high raptor]

Um need a mod

My land just reset itself

What do I do?????

[little moon]

open a ticket #❓❓〕support

mods can't help

[high raptor]

Was banking on it being a known issue.

[little moon]

no idea

[high raptor]

Crazy

[little moon]

yep

did you try logging out and logging back in

[high raptor]

Yup

This is scary. I would hope that this gets fixed quickly.

Can anyone tell me whether or not resetting your land changes your builders back to 1 or do you keep the builders purchased?

[vivid cipher]

I saw someone say that the extra builders are removed if you reset the plot. That random guy could have been wrong.

[amber atlas]

If they are it's surely a bug. Resetting builders on sale/transfer is intentional, but resetting should not be transferring.

[vivid cipher]

Just checked some dev chat about it. I’d asked previously and they said the builders should NOT be lost when resetting plot.

[versed warren]

I might actually sell if that happens to me and theres no fix

[open stratus]

Did you reset the land ? Or did you buy it

[proper quail]

Is there a way to change the region of our free T0 landplot?

[spice vector]

did you log a ticket with your plot id so the team can take a look?

[sand radish]

Upgrade databank only increase storage ? or is it necessary to store higher level biodata ?

[minor hazel]

just storage, I've got 4's in a lvl 2 bank

[uneven pulsar]

100% is max for the scanner or can I increase it? what do I deen to do for it?

power station isn't impact on scanner?

[broken crypt]

hi guys if my plot is tier zero i can ba able to collect that resourses?

[uneven pulsar]

100% scanner max?

[uneven pulsar]

you can but cany sell in blockchaine

[minor hazel]

yes, scanners are 100% max

[gusty copper]

Hi there,
I've got a problem buying Land plots on Token Trove.
I bridged enough ETH to zkIMX passport, but the transactions cant' get through because of an error.
Does anyone know why?
Is there a better/easier way to buy land plots?

[true rampart]

use the illuvium marketplace

[gusty copper]

I get an error there as well: 'Maximum call stack size exceeded'

2 years ago it was so much easier to use both immutable and Illuvidex, I just connected my many Metamask accounts I was good to go

[grand silo]

no, max ive got is 19%

[open stratus]

Zk?

Or IMX passport

[gusty copper]

zk
And apparently that was a mistake, since Illuvidex uses the old IMX passport

[open stratus]

Yeah that's what I was wondering

[gusty copper]

How to transfer ETH on zkEVM back to Metamask?

[open stratus]

Sorry, it should be far more clear

[gusty copper]

Np, I miss the old IMX where things were so much easier, now it's a hot mess

[open stratus]

In #❓❗〕community-help pins there are some articles, perhaps one is there

[silk edge]

how much fuel do you sell a day

[olive crag]

i just completed my T2 land development and created my 1st order. I have one question i will recive ETH as payment or USDsomething ?

[thorny crater]

Eth

[thorny crater]

You have to you imx not the zyme thing or whatever

[olive crag]

thx

[thorny crater]

Crypto is confusing but yeah you’re not the first to do that

Before moving eth/spending money I’d read the guides #💬〕general message

But that’s just me.

[hexed talon]

@radiant sky Hello Sir.
My land have some problems 1 month already. Support is also no responding.
All units from my plot just disappeared and I can’t do any progress. Should I sale this plot ?

[timber sapphire]

#❓❗〕community-help

[fervent slate]

It has been 8 hours since fuel was sold and there is no indication in Immutascan.
Is there a problem?

[hearty cradle]

2 hours on immutascan

[fervent slate]

I reported this to the ticket because the ETH earned from the sale may not be transferred.

[hearty cradle]

u mean your fuel purchase?

[knotty sable]

I Finally unlocked a scanner, 3 days into it and no luck with finding anything. Feels like I’m just wasting fuel. 😕

[sudden horizon]

Was there a client update in the last 24 hours? For some reason, my client stopped launching.

[hazy tartan]

Scanners are for people with fuel to waste, what tier land?

[thorny crater]

Yeah if you don't have a t3+ i would basically max plot fuels and stuff before scanning.

LEarned this the hard way on my t2

[twilit bough]

You covered it with road?

[thorny crater]

here is my t2. if i was not scanning so much all these fuels would be maxed right now and i could be working on converters....all i got was biodata and no BPS

that said, on my t3 i can scan and reserach 24/7 and still have fuel for upgrades. maxing the last fuel as of this morning

[radiant sky]

Good morning, ser.
Am i right in the assumption that you clustered your plot with paths?
Afaik all the team members should be back from vacation early semptember.
So i guess a big part is already back and working hard on fixing those issues.
Let me try to find some details to when the patch fixing those could be coming and i come back to you.

[thorny crater]

for blue biodata. Is there a way i can organize this? Id like to do it by tier then stage, but the filter only has stages.

i hate when i research a t1 on a lab lvl2+. such a waste of fuels

Been extra careful but at first i did not know

dang i was going to buy the t1 floor that has all 3 elements lol but it went up 200$ from about 2 days ago lol

anyone want to sell me their t3 for 1k? lol offer is still on the table 😅

[hazy tartan]

It would be super sweet if that t1 land is still there in say 5 days 🫡

[thorny crater]

I want hyperhunter t3 lol

puuuurty

[hazy tartan]

I’ll take another t1 and be happy. That’s the plans for sure is to get another especially with price at like $150 less than I paid 3 weeks ago

[knotty sable]

I have a T2 land at lvl 172

[thorny crater]

@knotty sable i learned the hard way on my t2 as well.

[hazy tartan]

You’ll have fuel for the occasional run when you’re full but it’s a waste any other time, think of how many lands will be producing BP that are higher tier, add in the t1 who for some reason want them and you’ve got wayyyy too many bp on the market

[thorny crater]

from an hour ago

[balmy hound]

Does anyone know what the benefit is for upgrading Materials Lab or Singularity Scanner? Since it doesn’t display any

[hazy tartan]

The super rare ones will be the only ones worth it and I know damn sure I’m not wasting 3 days of production on 1 run to MAYBE get it

[hazy tartan]

Gotta be crypton land for me

[thorny crater]

better tiers

[balmy hound]

@thorny crater That’s it? Haha

So no way to increase chance of finding bp?

So lvl 2 scanner means up to tier 2 ilv

[thorny crater]

this is me talking about labs and scanner yesterday

FActs increase chance of getting a BP

BUT if you reserach a tier 1 on a lab lvl 3 it will cost the lab 3 fuel cost.

so i made my labs lvls 1-4 soon to build a 5th lab to have a tier 5 one

[balmy hound]

Yeah so 1 for each tier I get it

Thx

[thorny crater]

no prob

[rose thicket]

Wow, NFT market is really weak...hoping global liquidity kicks in before a rippling recession really takes hold.

[craggy bison]

Anyone else having trouble loading there plot ? Since yesterday it now takes a lot lot longer for the plot to load ,i have 3 plots and i have tried on 3 machines desktops and laptops with minimum of rtx380 and i9 .So its not a hardware issue !

My tier1 land loads but no build option its missing from the screen ?

[hexed talon]

Are you joking me guys?

#❓❗〕community-help message

In community help they said I have speak here with Dr Spoon

[timber sapphire]

Sorry, normally other channels like these get spammed easily that's why I suggested

[knotty sable]

Thank you, it’s all a learning process. Looking back I wish I would invested the little more money and got three fuels and three element for a site.

[open stratus]

Did you cake the whole thing with roads

[timber sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-doc-brown-roads-no-need-michael-j-fox-gif-4584287

[hexed talon]

Yes, I was experimenting with paths and cover all my plot. And exactly after this my units is gone.
Ok, I will wait. Hope this issue will solve ASAP
thank you 🙏

[radiant sky]

I'm really sorry for the inconvenience.
you are not alone with this problem, and afaik it's high priority to solve that bug.
haven't heard back yet but will keep you updated.

[craggy bison]

yes

[craggy bison]

I got sick of clearing plants when i want to build stuff so covered the whole thing in paths now 1 of my plots i cant even do anything !

[open stratus]

It's a known issue of high priority. Hopefully they will fix soon

[thorny crater]

That's by far the best sites imo. less converting = gold

why these storages have to hit so hard

https://tenor.com/view/kingbluprint-gif-21436316

[foggy sage]

XD

i just need to upgrade some power stations and then i can start the long journey to getting scanners and mat labs to level 5

[gritty wave]

https://tenor.com/view/pxl-green-tech-uhasselt-vetpens-pxl-losers-gif-24653052

Ahh, so that is you trimming the verge!

[fallow lily]

What ever happened to the trade network for resources?

[thorny crater]

data bank getting upgraded first. that storage can wait for teh scanner lvl 5

i need more just fo rthe upgrad then i think i can get rid of one storage after that.

[winter ivy]

lmao

[thorny crater]

this is a later goal lol

[rotund forum]

just had a kukka on my t5 🙈

[fallow lily]

Also, will there be a way to share resources across our owned land?

[timber sapphire]

Yes but it's not implemented yet afaik

[uneven atlas]

I did this today on layerswap.io

[noble willow]

yes but still to come, they are working on it.

It's the reason I bought land, but knew it wasn't there yet. Playing overworld at t0 for fun and will then go up once the functionality is there

[hazy solstice]

Is anyone able to actually sell fuel? It says the "market average price" is $0.0036 but it doesn't allow you to set a price that low - Hyperion sale price must be set above $0.005027 each to meet minimum market pricing standards.. My sale order has been sitting for weeks

[orchid isle]

Can’t do anything on my plot without network error occurred happening. Happens whenever I try to move or create a building I’ve tried to log out and log in. Mobile and desktop same issue

[noble willow]

I hate the network error, or need to reauthenticate for security reasons kick out.

[fallow lily]

Fuel prices are higher than 0.0036

[rotund forum]

I had this too, even wrote a ticket because it wouldn´t go away, but eventually I removed some trees and suddenly it did let me. Haven´t had the problem since.

[hazy solstice]

I guess demand is very low for fuel then? I have my sale order set far below $0.0067 each

[foggy sage]

the road to max scanners starts now

[rotund forum]

solon and crypton sell at 0.0000015, hyperion is the worst right now selling at 0.0000013208

[lapis grove]

can you login in the game？

[rotund forum]

I hope you are a man of patience 😝 good luck man 💪

[foggy sage]

i know lol stage 5 scanner is like 5 or 6 days long already got them max on my first t4 going for the next set on my 2nd t4

[rotund forum]

the biolabs aren´t any better... and when you update, you need to update powerstations again first for them to work... it´s a frustrating road.

[grand silo]

nice

[rotund forum]

Also I would wish they´d make the result of your scan or blueprint a bit more exciting.... like some kind of a slot machine spinning and then giving a result. Not the 24 hours waiting... clicking on biolabs and scanners and just that message that you found nothing

[hazy solstice]

Yeah that's my issue - the minimum price I can set to sell hyperion is 0.00000195 ETH, which is like 40% higher than what it's selling for. Whatever I guess, poor design

[rotund forum]

the minimum price for hyperion is 0.000001008350554176, the price where you can still sell it is 0.0000013208. Anything above that and orders probably don´t go through. I put some up at a higher price because I am in no hurry to sell that but I see nobody is in a hurry to buy it either.

[rotund forum]

congratz!

[gritty wave]

they might as well just flash up "loser!"

[rotund forum]

I found a T4s1 this morning. Not mentioning monkeys etc anymore 🙈

[rotund forum]

yeah something like "see you in 24 hours loser 🖕 " hahaha

they could even make a loser leaderboard for most dudds

[wide bobcat]

hi guys, how do you find blueprints? all I find is facts and more facts doing research

[rotund forum]

it´s just bad luck. Welcome to the club. But with every fact you find your chances of finding the blueprint next time increase

[thorny crater]

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[thorny crater]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-frog-illuvium-frog-meme-thug-life-glasses-frog-life-gif-25591793

[thorny crater]

oof i would be fuel but hurt lol

[rotund forum]

one thing I do notice; from T3 onwards I have only seen stage 1´s so far. No stage 2 or 3 anywhere. Anybody has one?

[thorny crater]

i got stage 3s on a lvl 1 scanner lol

one sec it logged my out for being idle and idk why i have to exit the game entirely to get back in on desktop when that happens

but only on desktop

[rotund forum]

yeah i´ve got like 5 different lynxes T2s3 but that is what I am saying, everything higher seems only stage 1 so far

[thorny crater]

I get rid of all the t1s thats already on my t2 so save room for BPs

[thorny crater]

whast even crazier is this one sec

a stage 3 t2 biodata gave me a stage one drone bp

i did not realize that BPs have stages

[rotund forum]

i have not seen anything but stage 1 blueprints either

don´t know if that is still because it is being worked on... same as the image... they all look the same which makes it less exciting

[orchid isle]

The problem is the trees are where I want to build it’s a full plot. I remove the trees they come back after the error

[thorny crater]

I was so disappointed to find out BPS are no longer unique lol

[rotund forum]

exactly. had the same thing during days. I just tried to remove trees and move another building to a place that actually was free (after removing roads) and that did the trick for me. After that no more network error and could continue removing trees and put stuff in their place

[rotund forum]

well, not unique, but there are 4400+ of them, and they will cease to exist, so yeah, you might definitly get some that turn out to be unique

[orchid isle]

Didn’t work for me even moving the trees and moving existing buildings same error. New trees every time

[thorny crater]

oh ok yeah i still need to learn more about them. Do you by chance have the link to the 4400 aspects i could read up on later?

I just know they are one of the BIGGEST parts of land for me.

i only wanted fuel so i could use in game lol never really cared about selling it haha

i hope they let us do this as demand rises. use our own fuel in game*

[rotund forum]

just send a ticket, and keep trying in the meantime

[rotund forum]

no but we did the math the other day. I think there are over 200 different illuvials, and there are 4 drones and like 18 suits? that makes 22x200=4400+

[rotund forum]

they are working on this, which makes sense... there will be less fuel on the market.

thus increasing demand

[thorny crater]

that and t1s whould shoot up in price in my opnion

i look for these

one of each element on t1s

[dusk parcel]

are the servers down or something. I cant get into the game.

[foggy bison]

No issues here...

[dusk parcel]

hmmm

it just stays on the titale screen and doesnt load

[thorny crater]

try exiting out the game entiryly and go back

IF i am on desktop and get kicked for being idle "security reasons" i can not log back in until i exit out then reload the ga,e. But this only happens on desktop not iphone or ipad

[tranquil sparrow]

I can't upload photo?

[timber sapphire]

#❓❗〕community-help

[rotund forum]

yeah, having balanced lands is a bliss. Once you hit endgame it doesn´t really matter that much anymore, but leveling up with lacking elements is tough.

[thorny crater]

i just check on my t1s like once a day lol. take 1-3 days to get the material i needs fo rthe main buildings anyway

[keen dirge]

WHAT LEVEL IS YOUR SCANNER?

[chilly copper]

hi i remembered i was airdrop a resource crate,i dont see it in my assets after i linked my wallet, where can i find it?

[thorny crater]

has to be lvl 5 to get tier 5 mons

lvl = tier but you can also get lower tiers from it

[thorny crater]

Dont have time to walk you thourhg it but you have to transfer it. loog for the pined post in chat for the guides

general chat*

[rotund forum]

you can and you f..... will 😝

[chilly copper]

ok thanks

[keen dirge]

thank

[broken roost]

you think they are going to do 4400 unique skins?

[hazy tartan]

Aht aht, keep it to yourself til next week for a playa

[empty path]

What is this session expired every 2 minutes?

https://tenor.com/view/crickets-crickets-chirping-silence-awkward-silence-gif-5319192

[hearty cradle]

doesnt happen to me

yet maybe

[rotund forum]

the skin is the same, but you have the 18 different suits and 4 droids, so yes, it will look different. But "skins" there will be as many as illuvials, so 200ish. But therefore there will be >4400 blueprints

[thorny crater]

my bad 😅

[thorny crater]

comes and goes for me. idk if they are testing stuff, but i did notice if i do not log out of my other devices the chances of this happening increases

[broken roost]

ohh i see, 200 skins still seem like a lot, doable though

i still hate the fact that if 1 person gets the same skin as you it just makes yours worthless

[empty path]

Hmmm closed it on phone, let's see if it helps

[thorny crater]

i did find out that i have two atlas drone skins, but they are different

one is mozart and the other is bach

atlas never stops getting reserached lol

[radiant sky]

if it's just 1, not too bad... best case you can handle a deal with him and share the market.
if it's 10 guys it indeed can go south pretty quickly 😅

[fathom shell]

is it possible to rent my lands? If yes, can someone teach me how please?

[mortal mural]

whats the difference between the scanners levels and the reasearch facility leveles?

want to know if having differenct scanner levels and research levels is better than just maxing all my scanners

[empty path]

Ok this keeps happening, it's annoying as fuck, I gotta build every power station twice

[stiff talon]

There's no official way through Illuvium but there's this company called Lootbox that seems to have the ability to do this but their Twitter is very low in followers and I don't know how popular that platform is. I also don't understand the security behind it etc. But just sharing what I heard about in terms of renting lands.

[thorny crater]

i aint doing anything thats not offical accepted by illuvium aka if it aint on the webtsite its a scam....but im mostly web 2 and i have trust issues with web 3

[lethal wyvern]

DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

Please follow the instructions pinned in #report-scammers to report bad actors so we can remove them from the server.

[gritty wave]

yeah they are teaming up with an outside vendor to provide this ability...wen? not sure, but sooner vs later was the thought

[timid sorrel]

what has fuel been selling for today, have to sell some and dont want to play the guessing game

[atomic cove]

their twitter is not that low in followers, it was my bad tagging the wrong X profile.

the security is provided thanks to the secondary wallet feature Illuvium developed. So it's safe.

[vivid cipher]

Pretty sure the ledger helps show this stuff. https://illuvidex.illuvium.io/fuel-exchange?section=ledger

[stiff talon]

Fair so what is the correct tab and do they have a decent following? I guess it's a good solution. Maybe a channel can be opened called LootBox and people can post assets they want to rent out...

[thorny crater]

I rmeber when i was redoing all my plots and moving builkdings around it would happen a LOT

[thorny crater]

to where i had to re add and stuff

[mortal mural]

nicholas (nijafe on youtube uploaded a video on it) help me a lot.

[proper quail]

I just noticed that my plot has been mirrored and mines have moved slightly compared to beta.
EDIT : both my land plots, actually...

[gritty wave]

just creating a little space M 😉

[gleaming sigil]

whats the max path bonus 20?

[proper quail]

yes

[prisma trout]

The season ends on Sat, right?

Hopefully when season 2 starts zero won't be quite so frustrating...lol
Sat is my birthday, and I know I'm just another landowner, but some improvement would be a great bday gift 🥰

[foggy sage]

Agree of they could cut fuel production by another 75% that be amazing

[gritty wave]

and more bonuses and lt missions for zero

[gritty wave]

you haven't heard? 😉

[fallow lily]

I wonder why the fuel production is so low

I thought that was one of the biggest selling points of owning land

[prisma trout]

@gritty wave
That would be awesome

@fallow lily
I did as well, but not at this point

I get frustrated & stop playing & then it sucks me back inbecause I get bored...lol
I'll be 68 on Sat & realized I have half the patience I used to 😏

[gleaming sigil]

How important is data bank and how many blueprints-biodata can they store?

[thorny crater]

BPs were. and basiclly not enough demand when the T4 were flooding the markets with fuel

[thorny crater]

very important, got to 10 then 25 and i lvl three is i think 35? it doesnt tell you on upgrades lol

BUT if you want BPs you'll need it bc biodata also takes up space

and we cant move our BPs to the walletrs yet, its not fully implemented for the beta version

[nimble lichen]

i think a level 3 databank stores 50

[thorny crater]

ooooo i likes. i'm almost maxed at 25 and if i did not have a t2 i would have been maxed long ago. i deleted the biodata on that i already had on my t2

[nimble lichen]

maybe a different max for different tiers

[thorny crater]

mine is lvl 2 right now

t 3

[nimble lichen]

ok yeah t3 is 50 max on level 3 as well

[thorny crater]

sweet my t2 is lvl 1:

i have ZERO luck on t2 for Bps lol. pun intended lol

[nimble lichen]

i surprised we don't have better technology on Illuvium for compressing biodata and blueprints lol

huge building for only 50

[empty path]

Yeah I was spamming power stations, maybe they can’t handle all the changes

[thick trout]

Do all the buildings stay if you sell a land?

[broken roost]

yes

[quaint prism]

Buildings stay yes. Fuel and element stores reset. Idk about in-progress buildings.

[radiant sky]

@uneven pulsar what do you mean exactly you receive 40% less?
possible to elaborate?

[thorny crater]

I think this is 100% a thing. when it would glitch with me moving something or adding it would hold off a sec but keep the item up...then when the glitch stoped i placed it

doing that stopped it

[uneven pulsar]

This

I received always less eth than I sold

So it's not 5% revenue for selling my fuel

It's only 2.5%

[thorny crater]

huh did not check that. only made like 6-7 sells to test stuff. but thats a REALLY good ccath i will be watching moving forward

[fallow lily]

Can anyone advise what plot has the * in front of it? A test plot?

[prisma trout]

@fallow lily
It's the free to play plot

[thorny crater]

f2p only. all you can do is get daillies missions from it...or every 5 levels you get a coin

[prisma trout]

@opal thistle
Check out my new pic. My grandson uploaded it for me.🥳

[opal thistle]

It looks great!!!!

[sand radish]

any place to follow price evolution of fuel ?

or last trade etc.

[thorny crater]

One thing i would 100% like for land is when i click info, it should have the

• current production amount
• cost for current mine/pump
• next lvl upgrade cost
• next lvl output
• next level resource cost
• a way to cancel the current auto-repeat and current mine/pump

i keep canceling the wrong ones which is kind of aggregating, and or i do not know/remeber what resource i need to keep for the next ____ i want to do

[prisma trout]

@opal thistle
Thanks. I love it.

[uneven pulsar]

Yeap check and you will be surprised (

[thorny crater]

for example. i know for a crypton lvl 6 i need 150 hyperion to upgrade....but if i have one already going and did not know this. IT hard to judge if i should scan/sell/upgrad other building for timing purposes

[opal thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/bear-hats-off-respect-bye-bye-gif-8633553

[thorny crater]

Cant tell you how many times i had to wait another day bc i converted thinking i remembered the upgrade cost and was wrong 😅

[sand radish]

thx. Found that menu but didnt seems very practicle

[thorny crater]

or maybe on this screen since there is way more real-estate to play with

[opal thistle]

I agree, a nice price chart would be great but at least we got this for the time being

[thorny crater]

API please haha. or at least for my own land so i can automate it would be nice. MY excell sheet is meh

[sand radish]

so if you see in the ledger a buy order for a specific price. If you setup a sell order for that price or lower itshould get filled ?

[thorny crater]

What does "ROUNDED LOSS" mean?

[sand radish]

yhea tbh i dont understand what i'm suppose to look at to try selling fuel at current "buy price"

[thorny crater]

oh sorry that buy order distributed button

thats that last fuel that sold with the prices

[thorny crater]

I tired to webscrape it but i suck at flex containers lol. ill try another day

[sand radish]

so for exemple here all was sold a 015 / 014 each ?

so if i wanted to sell as well i should match at least this price ? Really confusing between the "average and max price" displaying when you wanna sell

[thorny crater]

i do not see an average and max on the filter?