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hollow drum
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haha

lofty knoll
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ima take you out

hollow drum
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LMAO

fierce vine
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Wait I thought wade was Canadian

hollow drum
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Ya I am

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Im just saying like

fierce vine
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The fuck

lofty knoll
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its 19 no?

hollow drum
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ya

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19

fierce vine
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They have different drinking ages there

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?

hollow drum
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Im just saying

lofty knoll
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we are the alcoholics

hollow drum
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I havent been out that much to the bars cuz of covid

lofty knoll
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french fukers

hexed wren
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I have a friend who immigrated to Canada

hollow drum
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1 years ish

fierce vine
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Mericas all like. Make drinking age 21 or we don’t pay for your roads. States said, okay daddy

lofty knoll
fierce vine
hollow drum
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my family is french but nova scotia french

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drinking age at 21 is crazy

lofty knoll
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ikr

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since we all start at 14

tame solar
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good night guyhs

hollow drum
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Scottish and French

tame solar
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please dont nuke the market

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till after i wake up

fierce vine
hollow drum
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good combo

tame solar
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and before matt gets his money

fierce vine
lofty knoll
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at 21 i kinda slowly stopped drinking and going to the bar

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my best years were already behind me

humble wave
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21 as in rank? 😁

lofty knoll
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and american starts at 21 lol

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well I mean not going 3 times a week kinda slowing

fierce vine
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lol well here we still start like 14-15 just not legally

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Although in wa it was mainly weed and not drinking when I was growing up

hollow drum
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haha

humble wave
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People are used to brewing their own wine back at home illegal 😁 no bars there. The government sucks the joy out of life

hollow drum
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I had my first beer at 13 at a bar in quebec LMAO

full dome
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number 2

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so weak

humble wave
# lofty knoll savage

Yep. Hard truth. Even in Tueky where I live you can hardly find beer. It's always behind darkened glass fridges 😁

hexed wren
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Btw guys from Canada, I've read you have weed legal now. Did it change something in Canada?

hollow drum
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at all

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still dumb government

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nothing is different

hexed wren
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ahaha:)

lofty knoll
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street weed still more powerfull and cheaper

humble wave
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I'm close to 29. Rank is mooning 😁

hollow drum
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^^^

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what Rah said

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OCS is garbage

fierce vine
past flume
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Me want staking of ILV sadgee

lofty knoll
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so yea.. only money for the governement to do woke ass shit with

lofty knoll
fierce vine
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In wa there’s not much street weed anymore. Shops are normal pricing and so good

lofty knoll
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but prices are dumb

hollow drum
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Prices are like 8-12 per gram

fierce vine
hollow drum
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its WILD

hollow drum
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street weed is like 4-6

fierce vine
lofty knoll
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cause they pay employess stupid salary like the liquor governement store

hollow drum
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I like thawt

humble wave
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A little more and we'll be discussing cocaine and stuff 😁

hollow drum
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that

fierce vine
lofty knoll
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Wild ride

humble wave
lofty knoll
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enjoyed it

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except the depression after

fierce vine
calm arrow
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What happened to ILV price over night? It's jumped a fair old bit

humble wave
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Do they smock or inhale cocaine? Or eat it? What verb do you use for it?

lofty knoll
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did I ever tell you guys about my gas mask

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hahahhahaha

fierce vine
humble wave
humble wave
lofty knoll
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dont eat cocaine please

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hahahaha

hollow drum
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Joe happened probs

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HAHAH

humble wave
calm arrow
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I've just about got my funds to double/treble down, it's a curse! Think it's the brothers just before staking goes live? :p

lofty knoll
fierce vine
humble wave
past flume
hollow drum
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yes

humble wave
fierce vine
calm arrow
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I guess we did just get an influx of new members! Well, good to see some change of direction

hollow drum
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My fave pilot

past flume
hollow drum
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Rahlord

past flume
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We crash and die

lofty knoll
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Nah

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autopilot

hollow drum
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He can perform at any level

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no matter how high

past flume
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Than you go snort a line?

humble wave
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Rah will fly us to Hawaii in his private jet 😁

fierce vine
hollow drum
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ded

hollow drum
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man where are the mods this is getting out of hand

past flume
hollow drum
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😉

lofty knoll
fierce vine
hollow drum
fierce vine
hollow drum
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but not there

lofty knoll
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where were we

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a yea

past flume
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Of ilv evil_natrix

humble wave
past flume
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Maybe more

lofty knoll
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We should totally be drinking in degen

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not in here

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lol

past flume
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Good game . Bull run surely

hollow drum
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Ya I am moving to degen

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see u in a sec

fierce vine
humble wave
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Pms are coming faster than I can read them. Are we all drunk? 😂

humble wave
past flume
humble wave
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Only if Orange juice can make me drunk 😁

humble wave
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I am living in the future

past flume
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Nearly 28th for us

sage falcon
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wen yield farming

humble wave
past flume
sage falcon
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@humble wave is there a beach there too?

humble wave
humble wave
past flume
humble wave
lofty fox
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6pm Sunday night..

fierce vine
lofty fox
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Australia

fierce vine
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I knew that lol. Aus I always know because it’s the next day - 7 hours. So 1am for me -7 but the next day. Boom math.

lofty fox
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Haha yeah I totally suck at time conversions.. stayed up all night both nights on weekend waiting for a drop that turns out... is 4am tomorrow morning my time... hahahaha yay.

fierce vine
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Lol shit. I can’t stay up over night I pass out sitting up

lofty fox
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The one benefit to being an insomniac.

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Haha

crisp sorrel
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@real tiger Chacha will be glad he sold the bottom 😄

red crater
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some big ILV buys

twilit junco
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15% increase in $ILV price the last 24h. Not bad I'd say.

elfin coral
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jinx

idle terrace
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Marketcap is still a joke. I’m comfortable adding at this point.

humble wave
real tiger
idle terrace
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I could be wrong but I’m usually not

lofty knoll
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25M is nothing yea

twilit junco
humble wave
idle terrace
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At this point ur just investing in the market tho. Doesn’t rly matter whether u buy ETH, ILV, snx etc

humble wave
idle terrace
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Once staking, gameplay, beta come about it, it could be different

humble wave
real tiger
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Tomorrow free ilv again heuuyy

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Xyz rewards

idle terrace
humble wave
twilit junco
real tiger
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After tomorrow almost 7100

calm arrow
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Just trebled my position up to 60 ILV. still a guppy, but a bigger guppy

humble wave
real tiger
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Look at the gas

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Never seen this low

idle terrace
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Im mainly just adding ETH for LP.

humble wave
lofty knoll
humble wave
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So staking is definitely in 3 days tops? Not four or five or a week?

idle terrace
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I don’t think we know

lofty knoll
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Ssooooooooooooooon

humble wave
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Because if it's still a week, then we might want to keep it in XYZ to be clear.

idle terrace
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It’s a weird project, we have governance and it’s a dao. But it’s also not super transparent. Like I can’t contribute to #802110554784661544 without knowing what the game is like lol

lofty knoll
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What do you mean lol

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they are super transparent

severe breach
lofty knoll
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Not like they are going to give you the gamebook

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hahahha

idle terrace
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Why not?

lofty knoll
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cause then you wouldnt have anything to discover by yourself

humble wave
lofty knoll
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On top of that we have a pretty good idea of what the game is like

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just look at the leaks and the twitch

fierce vine
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Wait why do you Need to know what’s in game to submit ideas lol

idle terrace
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We have no input on how the battle system works. I think Aaron is smart/clever as fuck and it’ll work out. But the details of it are definitely under wraps .

lofty knoll
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and stick the pieces together

fierce vine
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If the idea is already in game then you win. If it’s not then it could be something that might be considered

lofty knoll
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Ben gave us a lot of info today

fierce vine
idle terrace
lofty fox
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Everybody talks details all the time... ya just gotta read lots an whatnot.

real tiger
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i wanna play the priv beta so bad

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i hope i get in lol

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Have been gaming for 15 years so should be able to give good feedback xD

idle terrace
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Okay read the pinned. So does early game shart with less control points and as the match progresses you add more? Previously it was said matches would be short. If there’s rounds/progression matches can’t be that short

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I personally hope they’re not short but that was what was stated before.

fierce vine
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It’s daily for me

lofty knoll
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You have a max value total and you place illuvials to get maximum synergies with the points available

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then the combat happens

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you choose them from your 30 cards hand

idle terrace
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So if I’m fighting you, is there multiple rounds or just 1?

lofty knoll
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only 1

calm arrow
lofty knoll
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you gotta have choices

idle terrace
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So do we put down at a time? Like I pick 1, then you, back and forth until we eventually battle?

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Like a draft almost?

real tiger
lofty fox
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You have your deck or hand of 30.. and when a battle starts.. you choose loovies weapons and armor from that 30.. until you reach your point cap.. then battle starts.

lofty fox
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Kinda.

lofty knoll
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but they want to keep the experience unique

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they want us to discover everything which is super dope

calm arrow
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I'm kind of hoping you can spend some points mid combat to react to what's occuring

lofty knoll
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Once the combat starts it's autobatlle

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cant do anything

idle terrace
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Okay I think I get it. In the later draft u can pick a big boy or a bunch of smaller boys

lofty knoll
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you gotta figure out what's the outcome before it starts

idle terrace
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Pretty good idea

real tiger
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ive not even looked into the details and mechenics of the gameplay

calm arrow
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Hrm, ok. In my mind I hoped there were breaks part way through to make choices. Will just see how it plays out

lofty knoll
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Cannot interupt the fight haha

calm arrow
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Sure, but DOTA underlords/TFT have multiple rounds

idle terrace
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Well U could have rounds like other aurobattlers, replace things that aren’t working etc

lofty knoll
calm arrow
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So interested to see how they add enough tactical depth with one round

lofty knoll
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Dept is way more crazier than TFT ahahhaha

calm arrow
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I'm not saying it can't be done, just keen to see how they do it

idle terrace
lofty knoll
calm arrow
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Don't want the meta to end up being "play a big boy last and it's 50/50 if your big boy counters their big boy"

idle terrace
lofty knoll
idle terrace
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Me too

lofty knoll
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So i know the dept yes

idle terrace
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But in tft ur playing against 7 other ppl. There’s no way a 1v1 has more depth

lofty knoll
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You'll see 😉

calm arrow
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Do you know extra stuff as a councilman Rah?

idle terrace
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I hope I’m pleasantly surprised

real tiger
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idk if thats possible

lofty knoll
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at launch its 1 vs 1

lofty fox
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What does Aaron always say... 1 month... 1 month later an people start to see things his way.

calm arrow
lofty knoll
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Keeps it short

lofty fox
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Haha

idle terrace
real tiger
calm arrow
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My worry is it ends up being like splinterlands which is essentially a 1 vs 1 autobattler, but there's very little way to actually counter plans etc

plain delta
idle terrace
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We woke him up

lofty fox
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Leviathan battle.. 5v5.. total chaos... Haha ooohhhhh... (dreams.. or nightmares?)

calm arrow
lofty knoll
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Weapon, armor, enhancements, Illuvials synergies (class/elements), placement of illuvials, placement of avatar (cause you also fight), counter play during placement, psychology

plain delta
twilit junco
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Did we have dates for when winners for Clix and Satoshi Stacker NFTs are chosen/announced?

calm arrow
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Glad to see it's not just one round, that gives me way more expectation of deep tactics

real tiger
plain delta
calm arrow
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@plain delta how's the super dooper crystal clear staking guide coming along?

real tiger
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people love to be able to grind for things, for example runescape grinding for 99s and 200m exp. Would be cool if we had like skills or something aswell that lvl up trough mining for example

plain delta
plain delta
lofty knoll
calm arrow
twilit junco
lofty knoll
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Totally forgot about it

calm arrow
lofty knoll
plain delta
calm arrow
lofty knoll
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But yea what do you mean not one round ? Like best of 3 in pvp but one round in pve ?

plain delta
lofty knoll
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That is kinda new info to me it seems

plain delta
real tiger
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increase rewards on skill level or something

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or do i udnerstand the concept wrong

lofty knoll
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I was like daaaamn he really wants to be clear hahaha

lofty knoll
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Sorry guys I was wrong

plain delta
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You weren't wrong. Just different game modes.

plain delta
calm arrow
lofty knoll
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Closed beta

real tiger
lofty knoll
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id say august

lofty fox
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I would assume end of July.. maybe... might be closer to mid or late August.

grave cairn
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EOM is here, wen farming?

lofty fox
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Soon.

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Was soon.

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Now real soon.

humble wave
marble oyster
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watching the stream from friday: coockie design 1o1

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crazy amount of work to work on a stone path

lofty knoll
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indeed

marble oyster
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something like an in-game title based on the live-streams you watched would be nice. Next to the balancer badge

lofty knoll
marble oyster
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dedication 😄

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if you watch all of them you would get a 'better' title then if you watched 1

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something like the roles in the GU discord

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(ex: demigod, archon, priest, .... from GU)

cedar junco
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Satoshi Stacker my love :))

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hi all 😄

lofty knoll
wind forge
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Ami said that she thinks it's like 6 days max like 2 days ago

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And just 10 NFTs for SatoshiStacker, damn that's going to be some sick value if You can grab one

red grove
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hmm I wonder if these new whales that bought recently were exposed to ILV thru satoshi stackerrr

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potentially based on timing

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nice to see 🙂

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lucky entries for them

wind forge
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Could be bought by his close friends etc since he agreed to partnership so that probably means he believe in project going to the moon at some point.

humble wave
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So when 40? 😁 love to see 40s again. Love to see some outperformance before the real action.

red grove
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super excited for yield farming!! Can't wait to use the interface

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and check it every 13 seconds

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okay probably just a few times a day

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xd

humble wave
red grove
humble wave
winter dust
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Thier is exact date when this game releases?

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how to participate in NFT giveaway?

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/rank

sage falcon
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When’s staking available?

twilit junco
sage falcon
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I think that contradicts a ledger

humble wave
# twilit junco Well, you can use ledger via MM or not?

You can. But look at XYZ for example. MM is a separate option. If you Click on MM, then the normal version opens. If you click on Ledger, it'll read your MM-Ledger and open it. But some websites don't give you that option.

twilit junco
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Hmm, just need to be able to use my ledger somehow for ILV staking and all good 🙂

humble wave
humble wave
sage falcon
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Everyone’s dipped out of staking ilv for xyz

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So I’m assuming it’s coming soon

humble wave
humble wave
sage falcon
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I’m going to hold@out until next week

humble wave
humble wave
rain thorn
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Good Morning✨✨

twilit junco
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Salute 🙂

humble wave
twilit junco
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Need to find someone to buy my bike. Need more FIAT to buy more $ILV.

rain thorn
humble wave
humble wave
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@twilit junco besides you're already a whale XD

twilit junco
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wut? I only got 405 $ILV. The only place where I'm a whale is alone in a goldfish bowl 😄

humble wave
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I wonder why 5? why 400 + 5? XD

twilit junco
twilit junco
humble wave
humble wave
twilit junco
# humble wave It'll get decent-er once you see that staking will double in it a year (if not t...

Yeah, I'm not worried at all. There is a reason why I went all-in as soon as I found crypto gaming. Long-term that stuff is going to make me rich and there is a good chance that betting that hard on ILV will make it much earlier even. And on the slight chance that all goes to shit...I'm fine. Just means that vacation and buying a house isn't going to happen in a year or two already as planned.

humble wave
twilit junco
humble wave
humble wave
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one of the whales 😂

real tiger
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whale is a relative term

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im nothing compared to chacha en luggis

twilit junco
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I'd say, everything from 406 and more $ILV is a whale 😄

real tiger
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oh haha

humble wave
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ILV is a whale magnet XD

twilit junco
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It will for sure attract some huge new whales when staking is out and more gameplay is shown

real tiger
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lets hope it is at 200 then so it will be harder to become a new whale 😛

humble wave
stable condor
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krill here

humble wave
pallid siren
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What is the forecast for launching the Game?

humble wave
sage falcon
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Hi!

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How does this item work?
Is this the Shard item used to capture the defeated Illuvials?

quick spindle
quick spindle
tidal garnetBOT
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-Numerous partnerships with YouTube influencers in June / July
-Anticipated Yield Farming start date is near the end of June
-Gameplay trailer coming soon
-Mystery Auction shortly after that
-Closed beta this summer
-Open Beta / launch in early Q4
-Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date unknown.

humble wave
red crater
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if the game launches in 2021 i'll be a happy man

humble wave
pallid siren
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heroes or something like that

quick spindle
# pallid siren Will any nft be sold?

We currently have NFTs that are available on OpenSea... but none will provide any advantages in-game. The only NFTs available at the moment that can be used in the game are cosmetic skins or emotes 🙂

red crater
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Real illuvials can only be caught in the game

pallid siren
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what kind of skins

red crater
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then once caught you can trade them as NFTs

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@pallid siren

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so the beginning of the game will be very important

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if you can catch few of the genesis Illuvials, chances are they will be worth a lot

pallid siren
sudden dawn
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m0z4rt skins! 🙂

red crater
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you roam around in the game and try to "catch" them

quick spindle
# pallid siren what kind of skins

Right now the skins are for Moz4rt which will be your drone that accompanies you throughout the game and holds your inventory, possibly gathers plants/resources for you, and will also store your captured Illuvials that you want to use in battle.

red crater
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you can them with a Shard ( = like a pokeball )

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then with those Illuvials you catch, you will be able to PvP vs other players

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there will be tournaments etc etc

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and you will earn ILV

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😎

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so moral of the story, first few weeks of launch --> no lifing

quick spindle
tidal garnetBOT
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Collectible Illuvium NFT's are already available on Opensea https://opensea.io/assets/illuvium All are limited edition. The emotes and m0z4rt skin NFT's are redeemable in game. Upon use, these NFT's will be burnt when applied in game. This is only true for these emote's and skins as they were bonuses for the initial ILV token sale.

There is also a partner set of very limited collectible NFT's such as the Spartan Squizz for partnering with Synthetix (SNX) https://opensea.io/assets/0xd07dc4262bcdbf85190c01c996b4c06a461d2430/134273 Those collectibles are not for in game use, this is so everyone has a fair and balanced start when the game is released.

formal oar
pallid siren
quick spindle
# pallid siren Are we going to have to buy this "Pokeballs"?

Not at first. There will be a free to play version in which you have free Tier 0 shards and you can capture the Tier 0 Illuvials (not very powerful). But that way, you can still build a team and battle to find out if you like the game.

Then if you want Tier 1 and higher Illuvials, you will need to pay to travel to a region with more powerful Illuvials... and also create better shards to capture the better Illuvials 🙂

pallid siren
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I understood the game play but my question is whether you'll have to buy this Pokeball to capture the illuviuns

formal oar
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you will be able to mine and cure your own shards (pokeballs).

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you will need to pay to cure the shards however

pallid siren
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So let's capture using shards?

twilit junco
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Hmm, I think I need to consider leaving Germany after all. Just read into taxes etc. and while it's great that any crypto you buy and sell after holding for at least a year is tax free regardless how big of a profit you make, they do tax any profits from trades earlier than a year AND from any kind of staking. So basically, they tax my income with 45% and from the money I then invest into crypto and start gaining staking profits from, they want to have 45% as well?! Yeah right...gotta check which countries come with proper laws lol

formal oar
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if you do not want to craft your own, you can buy via secondary market I believe

pallid siren
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🔥

quick spindle
pallid siren
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I will try to read the white paper.

humble wave
red crater
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if you use DEXes , governements wont know your funds

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and if you move money to your bank accounts, use different accounts and stay below 5K euro a month on each account

humble wave
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There is no way anyone can follow DEXs. There's no KYC or such

twilit junco
red crater
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also governements only try to target the really big players. They don't care about 10K, 50K or 70K

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they don't have the resources to investigate all of that

humble wave
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I mean even if you want to withdraw (from Binance for example) there's a limit. If you don't keep the money on CEX still there's no way anyone can check your Ledger or MM. Is there?

twilit junco
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When you send money from your bank account to Binance, wouldn't it be possible to check that binance account and then see where you transferred something to from binance for example?

humble wave
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So how would they tax you for something you don't hold on CEX?

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Of course if you have 10k in your account and suddenly you withdraw $1M, banks might ask questions, but if you keep that number low I don't think any government would care. Would they? 🤔

twilit junco
# humble wave So how would they tax you for something you don't hold on CEX?

They could in theory check etherscan and all the transactions of the wallet I send stuff to so many times from Binance? I know, all hypothetical and I'm not super worried right now, but just in general, I don't want to even have to hide anything just because of a government that has been stuck in the stone ages for years already.

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And then you google for crypto tax havens and the first result shows Germany on #2 lol

humble wave
twilit junco
# humble wave Hmmmm. How do they know it's even your wallet you're sending money from Binance ...

True, they cannot prove it I guess. I mean, I could have a gambling problem and all the money from binance was send to my bookie 😄 I'll just have to check what other options the world has to offer and see if something better AND interesting is even available. As a hodler I know that Germany is amazing (and ranks so high as crypto tax haven) because as long as you hold for a year before selling, you don't care about taxes anymore. But staking makes it super complicated when done by the book and trying to avoid breaking the law.

humble wave
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I've seen lots of people moving to Arab countries to do transactions. With your passport, it's quite easy to do that if you think you'll be subject to high taxes @twilit junco

twilit junco
# humble wave I've seen lots of people moving to Arab countries to do transactions. With your ...

I was actually considering to move to Dubai for a while and Dubai has 0 taxes for private people to my knowledge so that obviously is quite lucrative. I wouldn't mind just buying a house in Germany either but planning to hodl $ILV long-term means I don't really gain anything from the crypto tax benefits in Germany while they want to have a 45% cut of all my stake/revenue share profits (unless I break the law and hide it) which I find completely insane and ridiculous.

humble wave
# twilit junco I was actually considering to move to Dubai for a while and Dubai has 0 taxes fo...

Yeah I know. Tax sucks. I guess all agree. If what you say is the case you end up losing 45% to tax, then you should think of something. You don't have to break the law, but I don't think you'll have to play by their rule either. Do you? Dubai might be a nice choice. You can move the money back to Germany little by little or in cash. Not illegal at all. And you can even diversify and send the money to different accounts (like your patents’). I'm just coming up with ideas. No idea if it's practical at all

twilit junco
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Ah, don't worry - I'll find a solution 😄

real tiger
#

The Netherlands has 0 % tax on investments

humble wave
humble wave
twilit junco
# real tiger The Netherlands has 0 % tax on investments

Is that so? Didn't come across Netherlands yet when researching. Will take a look. As said, Germany is already great if you hodl, but any trades (NOT cash outs to FIAT) with a profit before a year of holding AND any profits from staking seem to be included in what you have to pay taxes for. Heavy ILV staking just sucks in that case 😄

real tiger
#

Yes i am from netherlands so :p

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The logic here is tax the working

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Not the rich

humble wave
#

Nice logic. Can I move there? 😁

real tiger
#

Yes they love expats

twilit junco
#

Always wanted to visit Amsterdam, Rotterdam and such, I guess 😄 Definitively putting Netherlands on my research list then, thanks

real tiger
#

Meh amsterdam

humble wave
real tiger
#

Iranian is hard yes

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Still very doable tho

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We are not usa haha

humble wave
humble wave
twilit junco
#

Portugal apparently is 0 taxes on anything crypto as well. Gotta check that out 😄

twilit junco
brazen bobcat
#

Theres a tax on capital in the netherlands

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Box 3 vermogensbelasting

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It can be easy to circumvent using debt but it is there

twilit junco
#

Good to know, thanks

brazen bobcat
#

From what I gather from the US cryptosphere you are taxed per transaction or they atleast want to know all your transactions

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In NL you are taxed on your total net worth (capital - debt) each year. They come up with a fictional return on that net worth, and you pay 30% of that return. If your net worth is below 50k you pay nothing, if it is 100k you pay like half a percent, if 200k like 1 percent, you only really start to feel it once your net worth is above 1M, at which you can play around with debt comfortably

twilit junco
#

In Germany, the way I read it, any kind of trade that nets you a profit at the time of trading (not time of converting to FIAT) is subject to taxes unless you did buy a crypto and hold it for at least 12 months. That basically means that every kind of trade I'll make in the Illuvidex (considering I didn't buy and hold for a year) is something I'll have to document and consider for taxes...that's absurd. I'm not gonna pay the f* government taxes for a Loovie I went out catching and then selling on the marketplace. You gotta be kidding me.

elder nebula
#

isnt that only when trading currencies though?

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do NFTs qualify as currencies?

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and is it a buy if its a gambling reward

brazen bobcat
#

Theres a lot of 'tricks' in NL you can use to get that net worth number down as well (real estate you live in doesnt count)

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Companies taxed separately etc

twilit junco
# elder nebula isnt that only when trading currencies though?

Not the way I understood my research. "Goods" qualified as well and in regards to staking I clearly read it is subject to taxes. Gambling doesn't necessarily prevent you from taxes either. You still pay taxes if you speculated on a profit and actually get it. That's why you need to hold crypto for 12 months for example to get out of taxes for it.

twilit junco
# brazen bobcat Theres a lot of 'tricks' in NL you can use to get that net worth number down as ...

Sounds interesting. I think NFT and marketplaces will become a real issue as well. Portugal for example seems to be great for crypto if you're not an active trader. Well I'm not, I hodl and stake BUT, as what do several daily transactions on marketplaces in games count moving forward? They do after all net me a profit too. So much to consider lol. Easiest way is to find something where it's nice to live and in general just 0 taxes 😄

elder nebula
#

well, as soon as they find out, a case law will almost certainly be in the governments favor

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the question is, what happens with the transactions until then

twilit junco
#

Yeah...

tame solar
#

Wake up

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Check announcements

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No YF

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go back to sleep

humble wave
humble wave
twilit junco
# humble wave Book a ticked and fly to Dubai and you'll see lots of traders. Active and passiv...

That is something I'm currently looking into as well. Same with Singapore f.x. One thing is to save taxes but if the difference in living expenses comes close to or is even higher than those saved taxes then it better be a country you absolutely want to live in no matter what 🙂 I'm currently looking into Portugal while also trying to see how life here at home in Germany as full-time crypto gamer/invester might look like in terms of finances.

humble wave
twilit junco
#

Hehe, don't think Turkey would be for me ^^

humble wave
next surge
#

$40 soon

twilit talon
twilit junco
# twilit talon That's where I am moving to in 1.5 yrs

I'm looking into that the most right now while checking what happens in Germany. The official government body just announced ideas like increasing holding times until crypto can be sold for profit tax free from 1 to 10 years for example. Obviously, we have to see if this (or any of the other ridiculous proposals) actually become law but if so, then I'll definitively have to leave. If not, I still have to see what to do about staking taxes etc.

wind forge
twilit talon
twilit junco
twilit talon
#

👍

vagrant valve
#

I dont get why the U.S. doesnt just get rid of taxes and just print the money they need. lol

lofty knoll
#

Lol

twilit talon
lofty knoll
#

uberinflation

vagrant valve
#

lol

humble wave
#

Happy $38 haha 😄

humble wave
twilit talon
humble wave
twilit talon
sullen dock
#

Do you know who we can participate to the NFT Airdrop with Satoshi Stacker ?

humble wave
humble wave
twilit talon
#

Way to much!!

sage falcon
#

would be amazing

twilit talon
real tiger
#

Why is the gas so high now

sage falcon
#

NFT stuff

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like people minting and causing gas higher

oblique slate
fallow cradle
#

nah, can't believe this is all nft related.. isn't it just btc dumping?

oblique slate
#

practically 10k mintings in 30 minutes

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it's over now, let's see if it reduces the gas

lofty knoll
#

yea over

fallow cradle
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lol, these reactions :p

#

from the botb discord

near pier
rain thorn
#

15 Minutes for bulls guys

lofty knoll
fallow cradle
#

Is anyone here from Illuvium involved with xyz governance?

ripe pewter
#

which nft's dropped?

humble wave
real tiger
#

Hahahahha

humble wave
#

are we gonna see 40s tonight/day? XD

hollow drum
humble wave
fallow cradle
severe breach
#

hold on to your pants guys ..another 10k mints in 8 min lol

real tiger
humble wave
real tiger
#

Hahahahhaha

hollow drum
#

XYZ??

real tiger
#

Xyz breaking eth network

humble wave
#

I wanted to join them, but 0.07 was a bit high. i had to pay the gas money for it. i have set it aside for the staking/unstaking procedure

severe breach
hollow drum
#

damnn

humble wave
severe breach
#

gas RIP lol

humble wave
lofty knoll
#

They did announced it

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The polymorphs

humble wave
#

tehy kept announcing in their discord and tweeiter

lofty knoll
#

Sold out in 30 mins

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Now its bulls

humble wave
#

bulls are 0.08 ETH. Polymorph was 0.07 ETH

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by the way. happy 39 😄 they are pumpig ILV too apparently

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Imagine ILV starts the journey.

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for now I'm happy that I'm not totally in loss 😄

severe breach
#

bulls are even worse than xyz lol ...gas is stooooooopid

humble wave
severe breach
#

nah not rly man...around 6k

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but they only have 10k bulls to drop that's why

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like most NFT projects

humble wave
#

hmmm. I wonder if ILV will have something similar. something crazier

fallow cradle
#

this is really crazy indeed.. people keep speeding up their tx

humble wave
#

It had to happen the night I wanted to collect rewards 😫

fallow cradle
#

stepping away.. i'll buy a nice one after the dust settles SmileyPepe

humble wave
#

yeah I think I'll have to check later

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Tomorrow is Monday. Staking day? 😁

fallow cradle
humble wave
#

People in Australia have already started Monday. 😄 imagine if we wake up and see the announcement 😄

humble wave
humble wave
#

holy crap gas is above 300 XD the F-ed the net.

lofty knoll
#

450

humble wave
severe breach
humble wave
severe breach
#

all sold out ..let's get b to normal lol

real tiger
#

Holy moly that gass

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Is that really because of xyz?

real tiger
#

Thats crazy

humble wave
#

does ILV plan to pull off something like that?

lofty knoll
humble wave
#

it's gonna explode sooooooo BIG

fallow cradle
#

the eventual illuvium nft marketplace will be on an L2 though, no?

timber ore
#

its bullsontheblock

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their sale had so much demand

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it fucked gas

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i failed with 250 gwei

fallow cradle
#

yeah, gave up

timber ore
#

just insane

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well

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the fact that

humble wave
#

we're at 550 haha

timber ore
#

10k is held by 900 people

fallow cradle
#

was at 0.5 eth gas for a 0.8 eth mint 😅

timber ore
#

whales held the project hostage.

timber ore
#

everyone is ap ranksy

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pranksy wannabe

lofty knoll
#

people throw some much money at these it's crazy

timber ore
#

ive made 25-30 eth this month

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on these projects

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with like a 1 eth initial investment

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no strat

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just buy when theres fomo

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and sell

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lmao

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all these have 10k mint

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presales

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buy during presale, sell first 2 hours

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thats it

#

we are nearing the top or at the top

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this is insane

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noooo

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apes are 3.5 ETH floor

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dogs 1 eth floor

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gutter cats 1 eth floor

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these projects are crazy

lofty knoll
#

We are nowhere near the top

#

I disagree but eh can't agree on everything haha

timber ore
#

we are near the top for these 10k random mint projects

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is what i meant

timber ore
#

not crypto

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😄

next surge
#

Crypto has like 1/70th the market cap of stocks

real tiger
#

0.5 dolla until 40 bois

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When 100

karmic lichen
#

soon!

#

glad to see price action going the other way for once

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and omg @ gas

real tiger
#

Yea lol we should be 100m + vakue already

karmic lichen
#

staking still on for end of this month/ beg of next?

real tiger
#

Still end as far as i know

karmic lichen
#

also i see we have better retention of new comers

real tiger
#

True

hearty veldt
humble wave
hearty veldt
#

hopefully some will stay for the game, but it's kinda hard to get enthusiastic unless you are specifically into the gameplay concept

#

the art is also a great

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but most people probably want to see gameplay

humble wave
#

Everyone starts somewhere. Maybe some whales are lurking waiting for the right moment to jump in.

pseudo steeple
real tiger
#

Out of money man xD

#

I dont have a money tree

fierce vine
#

Arash and Vidar were talking and I didn’t keep checking the name but saw white profile pictures and thought why the fuck is vidar talking to themselves lol

#

Realized I’m just a moron

real tiger
#

We broke 40

#

Whoehoe

humble wave
humble wave
twilit talon
#

$40.34 now, hold on for the ride 🚀

oblique slate
#

$1000 or FUD

humble wave
#

That's the outperformance we need 😁 let it loose and fly high

real tiger
#

Why are we even happy sbout 40

#

40 aint shit

twilit talon
#

It's a start, better 40 than 30 🤭

karmic lichen
#

@hearty veldt in general. Been looking at the channel stats. Usually we were hovering around 25k ppl

#

now its almost 27k

pseudo steeple
#

funny dude.

#

he sold his illuvium lower. and now buying back higher xD

hollow drum
#

Buy high sell low

#

Haha

pseudo steeple
#

i want him to be my investment manager (ofc no)

#

he is good financial adviser (n0)

next surge
#

Anyones price predictions eoy changed ?

#

Or we still going for $1000

pseudo steeple
#

guys. just buy ilv.

hollow drum
#

Diamond hands baby

#

holding since IDO

#

never selling my Illuvium

sage falcon
#

!remind me in 365 days

karmic lichen
#

pshhh, holding till 5k!

elfin coral
#

I hate unreal price predictions :(

next surge
#

Serious ?

#

2400 this year

#

Idk man

karmic lichen
#

scratch that, 10k!

next surge
#

Thats over a 1 billion market cap

pseudo steeple
next surge
#

I think $500-1000 is possible

hollow drum
#

NFA

next surge
hollow drum
#

300-500 short term

#

but

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I am more excited about the game

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not worried about token

#

tbh

#

token will go up from strong game release

karmic lichen
#

im not worried about price, im thinking of all those fees we will be milking

sage falcon
#

Yes exactly

karmic lichen
#

not selling for a while

#

I hope we get beta this year

hollow drum
#

40.89

#

PUMPING

humble wave
#

The more locked the better. Even rewards are locked and won't be released all at the same time. It depends in when people click on claim to receive it a year later. No major dump at all. All points to the sky 😁

real tiger
#

double bottom

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on the eth value

tame solar
real tiger
#

chacha still sold the dip so far

humble wave
#

I believe we can fly. I believe we can touch the sky 😁

real tiger
#

he sold at 29 1 time lol

tame solar
#

sold the bottom

#

hate to see it

humble wave
hollow drum
hollow drum
#

Arash indicator

noble glen
#

why is this pumping?

hollow drum
humble wave
noble glen
#

nothing else is moving though?

humble wave
hollow drum
#

ICP up 21%

noble glen
#

oh okok

humble wave
#

Not much going on in the market. Pump is ILV exclusive

hollow drum
#

COMP 7%

#

Market sentiment came back and I think ppl are FOMOing on ILV in anticipation of yield farming

#

NFA just my opinion

noble glen
#

isee isee

humble wave
real tiger
#

41

#

in 5 months we laugh at these times

humble wave
#

30 was a price we shouldn’t have seen.

real tiger
#

"u remember when u bought at 40 😛

humble wave
noble glen
humble wave
noble glen
#

for real

tame solar
#

the great thing about this pump is that when the farm caomes out they dont wanna sell

noble glen
#

people musts been selling saat a loss

tame solar
#

and the ppl who sold for a loss gonna feel fomo

noble glen
#

yeah

tame solar
#

50 incoming

humble wave
real tiger
#

staking soon aswell

#

that will help too

weary spruce
#

Bought a nice size bag when this was 30. Happy I did

humble wave
humble wave
tame solar
pseudo steeple
#

our boy newcomer.

tame solar
#

but hopefully its not OGs

humble wave
noble glen
#

yeah

#

how long is staking locked for ?if you stake

real tiger
#

its a matter of time before the masses will find out about ilv

humble wave
tame solar
near pier
tame solar
humble wave
humble wave
tame solar
#

Marketing is important

noble glen
tame solar
#

hope it goes full blown once demo is out

near pier
humble wave
# tame solar hope it goes full blown once demo is out

Lots of tokens did 10X or more. ILV is unique not only in game, but mostly the project behind it. Once people realize “hey you not only get rewards for staking, but are paid to play and get a share of the revenue” they'll jump in

humble wave
humble wave
lean scarab
#

you think a descent living is possible with 60 illuvium?

tame solar
#

maybe in 2030 if you can wait

lean scarab
#

also with playing ofc

#

need more

humble wave
lean scarab
#

you mean i earn 60illuvium in one year?

sage falcon
humble wave
sage falcon
#

imagine gaming with that chair

humble wave
sage falcon
#

like i really wonder if it's comfortable

humble wave
sage falcon
#

big facts

lean scarab
#

planing to stake for maximum and get silv, then spend ingame to catch the rare ones and make a living. hope that works 😄

sage falcon
#

one day that will be 0.7 ILV 👀

twilit junco
humble wave
sage falcon
#

yea i got a secret lab one too atm

lean scarab
#

whats up with these gaming chairs, are they so comfortable?

humble wave
twilit junco
#

I'm super happy with Secret Lab personally. Have one at work as well. I prefer the ones with softweave fabric over PU leather though but for mine at home I had to get the WoW Alliance special edition. Couldn't resist 😄

lean scarab
#

i would buy one with the illuvium icon on it

humble wave
#

I like villains more that heroes 😁

lean scarab
#

should make these and sell for 10illuvium

sage falcon
#

@humble wave haha

twilit junco
humble wave
lean scarab
#

these chairs gonna have super powers ofc

#

it minr

#

it mines shards or something 😅

twilit junco
# humble wave You read my mind. I wanted to say that 😂

😄 btw, I checked Portugal for hours now. Looks good to me. Gotta check with my boss if we can arrange a deal to move there next year probably if further research confirms my initial gut feeling. Germany wants taxes on staking AND every token used for staking get's a prolonged ten year timer (instead of one year) until you can sell the token without paying taxes on the profit as well.

sage falcon
#

yea that chair looks insane

#

i really want to know if it's really gonna be that comfortable

humble wave
twilit junco
idle terrace
humble wave
twilit junco
#

<- 195cm, not going to sit in an Omega all day long 😄

idle terrace
#

And tallies lol

twilit junco
#

I think they do have a Titan XL now too, and yeah, tallies as well! I'm not fat! 😄

lean scarab
#

how are the fabrics, isnt it sweaty or anything?

twilit junco
#

I found the softweave fabric to be super comfortable personally. For the PU Leather I have a towel/blanket on the part I sit on. Never been much of a fan when it comes to leather (even synthetic) especially when it gets hot.

#

Also, time to get some sleep on my end. Keep that pump going and see you all in the morning 🥱 😴

lean scarab
#

I might get one when illuvium releases

next surge
#

Nice ilv pump today

lean scarab
#

insane, we get up to 40celsius/104 here in austria

#

gonna do that when i sold everything for illuvium 😅

#

agreed, crazy stuff gonna happen in the years to come

humble wave
#

Here it's 25 C but humid af. Can't breathe sometimes

twilit talon
#

102 for me atm

humble wave
#

You stand and you feel like every part is sweating. 😁 but this is still Istanbul. I wonder how they survive in Vietnam

#

Yeah. But I don't think I can survive in Kuwait. It's literally 30-40 Degrees inside the house with AC on

#

They breathe fire

vagrant valve
humble wave
#

One of my students was from Kuweit and he said he had 100 cousins can you believe that?

humble wave
#

Gas back to normal. Sheesh

elfin coral
#

if thats you and youre actually gonna sell your 10k ilv, dm me

lofty knoll
#

We already mooning

#

Damn

humble wave
#

44 for now

fierce vine
#

I know. I’m only half way in. Joe promised me dumps that lying fuck

lofty knoll
#

Lololol

lofty knoll
#

Hes in at the bottom

#

He doesnt caee anymore

#

Turned full bullish

fierce vine
#

I won’t once I spend this money

#

And my pay check

elfin coral
#

now im just trying to work out how i get enough eth to pair this...

fierce vine
elfin coral
#

ha i dont really have any nfts

#

just a mozart

#

only those with a mozart will be allowed into the citadel

fierce vine
#

Nice. I’m debating getting that one too. I bought the pink one so far for my daughter

elfin coral
#

its actually a pretty good deal now

lofty knoll
#

Eth big dildo

elfin coral
#

only 22 out there

#

at 20k usd i wouldnt burn it to use in game, but here, tempting

fierce vine
#

Just kidding they’ll be worth nothing no one buy them.

vagrant valve
#

i thought we all start with one?

fierce vine
#

With a mz yeah. Talking about balancer skins

elfin coral
#

prob a yellow one

vagrant valve
#

ah i see

quick spindle
elfin coral
#

name it pikachu

fierce vine
#

@strange wharf would lose their shit

inner topaz
#

It’s like people finally realised that we’re distributing 30% of the token through YF

hollow drum
#

^^^^^

#

Facts

#

Feels bad

#

I didnt buy the dip

elfin coral
#

yeah at $30 the price was basically the same as seed round

fierce vine
lofty knoll
#

My average is still so high

hybrid finch
#

to play devil's advocate a little bit

humble wave
#

Wishes and regrets filling air 😁

elfin coral
#

delayed like 1 month maybe, just confusion on the timeline too

severe breach
#

Who's there? 46?😁

#

46 and a half

severe breach
#

We make our own knock knock jokes here💪

hollow drum
#

RIP

#

The good days are AMAZING

#

Nah im good now, I have DAI ready to rock

#

waiting for XYZ to unlock

fierce vine
near pier
hollow drum
#

Im just waiting to see what Luggis and other ppl do

near pier
#

Ape szn engaged

karmic lichen
#

lol

humble wave
#

It’s nice to see the price climbing up step by step. Getting ready for the real news 😁

hollow drum
#

46

#

Whos that

#

🥵

humble wave
#

50s tonight/by staking date?

weary spruce
#

Staking Monday or Tuesday? Either way should push passed 50 by then, maybe even 60

humble wave
twilit talon
humble wave
forest trellis
#

Yo

#

@clix

humble wave
#

Yeah. Good thing Gas went back down

twilit talon
humble wave
#

So are all of you unstaking?

tame solar
#

you will find out in a bit lol

humble wave
humble wave
twilit talon
humble wave
humble wave
#

In a minute we'll see huge amount of ILV getting unstaked. I wonder what that'll do to the pool

weary spruce
#

LFGooooo

full dome
#

i dont think people will unstake right away

hollow drum
#

Lets see how she holds

humble wave
lofty knoll
#

I'm not

full dome
#

i mean why would we unstake right now

#

ILV staking isnt out, lol

hybrid finch
#

is ur ILV locked in XYZ for an epoch?

full dome
#

no

humble wave
lofty knoll
#

No

hybrid finch
#

ah then its fine, if it was locked risky 😄

weary spruce
#

Definitely won't be unstaking on XYZ until ILV staking is official

humble wave
#

Haha $3 to unstake .... Cheap

hollow drum
#

Anyone unstake?

#

ILV price holding

humble wave
#

Me 2

#

I sold it. Need food for the week 😁