#💬〕general
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ima take you out
LMAO
Wait I thought wade was Canadian
The fuck
its 19 no?
Im just saying
I havent been out that much to the bars cuz of covid
french fukers
I have a friend who immigrated to Canada
1 years ish
Mericas all like. Make drinking age 21 or we don’t pay for your roads. States said, okay daddy
gotcha yea almost 2 years now
Makes sense
good night guyhs
Scottish and French
Night night.
good combo
and before matt gets his money
Yessssss
at 21 i kinda slowly stopped drinking and going to the bar
my best years were already behind me
21 as in rank? 😁
lol well here we still start like 14-15 just not legally
Although in wa it was mainly weed and not drinking when I was growing up
People are used to brewing their own wine back at home illegal 😁 no bars there. The government sucks the joy out of life
I had my first beer at 13 at a bar in quebec LMAO
savage

Yep. Hard truth. Even in Tueky where I live you can hardly find beer. It's always behind darkened glass fridges 😁
Btw guys from Canada, I've read you have weed legal now. Did it change something in Canada?
Nothing changed
Not at all lol
ahaha:)
street weed still more powerfull and cheaper
I'm close to 29. Rank is mooning 😁
What really? Do you not have weed shops on every corner?
Me want staking of ILV 
so yea.. only money for the governement to do woke ass shit with
Like one every city maybe
In wa there’s not much street weed anymore. Shops are normal pricing and so good
but prices are dumb
Prices are like 8-12 per gram
There’s literally ten within a mile of me lol
its WILD
street weed is like 4-6
Same here but if you pay over 10 it’s super good stuff
cause they pay employess stupid salary like the liquor governement store
Not out yet 
Ya I mean the only thing is that you know its safe
I like thawt
A little more and we'll be discussing cocaine and stuff 😁
that
I’ve had enough of that lol
Wild ride
Haha.
My girl molly.
What happened to ILV price over night? It's jumped a fair old bit
Do they smock or inhale cocaine? Or eat it? What verb do you use for it?
Sniff
Lol yes. That’s why I’m keeping my gas mask emote
Ah. Thx 😁
whales
Happy Sunday gift 😁
Ikr. They put it in their mouths though 😁 rub it on the gums
I've just about got my funds to double/treble down, it's a curse! Think it's the brothers just before staking goes live? :p
Same hehehehe
That’s when you run out lol
Under 100 is cheap. Anytime you jump in it's good NFA 😁
Nah
Are you flying a plane in your profile pic or something?
He is my pilot
yes
Haha. Not even ignoring the last particles
Now you get it
I guess we did just get an influx of new members! Well, good to see some change of direction
My fave pilot
God damn I wouldn’t trust this man. He would be high on something 
Rahlord
We crash and die
Than you go snort a line?
Rah will fly us to Hawaii in his private jet 😁
If you think your pilots are sober you must not be from NA
LMAO
ded
NO PUN INTENDED I SWEAR
man where are the mods this is getting out of hand
Haha I’m a very sober man so I got no clue
😉
I was like damn this kid quick even drunk
Seriously. Lazy bitches
I am quick
Lol
but not there
That's FUD
Maybe more
Good game . Bull run surely
Lol. The sub 1k days
Pms are coming faster than I can read them. Are we all drunk? 😂
Are you?
I just had breakfast 😁
Bruh it’s nearly bedtime and you having breakfast
Only if Orange juice can make me drunk 😁
It's 10:30 am 😁
I am living in the future
wen yield farming
@humble wave breakfast
@humble wave is there a beach there too?
Done with it already 😁
Yeah but it's 30 min away from me
Need butterscotch’s creamy juice
Me too. Don't have it here though 😁
6pm Sunday night..
Damn you’re 17 hours ahead of me. You in SEA/Korea?
Australia
I knew that lol. Aus I always know because it’s the next day - 7 hours. So 1am for me -7 but the next day. Boom math.
Haha yeah I totally suck at time conversions.. stayed up all night both nights on weekend waiting for a drop that turns out... is 4am tomorrow morning my time... hahahaha yay.
Lol shit. I can’t stay up over night I pass out sitting up
@real tiger Chacha will be glad he sold the bottom 😄
some big ILV buys
15% increase in $ILV price the last 24h. Not bad I'd say.
jinx
Marketcap is still a joke. I’m comfortable adding at this point.
One fart and we're back at 100
Everything below 100 is a joke
I could be wrong but I’m usually not
25M is nothing yea
Happy to jinx a huge pump. Want to buy more first 😄
I bought 3 times in this range 29-38. For now have nothing more to throw in 😁
At this point ur just investing in the market tho. Doesn’t rly matter whether u buy ETH, ILV, snx etc
Yeah. But we're putting our love in the project too
Once staking, gameplay, beta come about it, it could be different
Insane entries
Yeah. It helped my DCA a lot
There’s know love until I play the game. That’s crazy.
Says a whale. I get 3/5 👍
That's great yeah. I'm still sitting at a comfortable average of $48. Not enough FIAT at hand to really get the average down a lot right now.
After tomorrow almost 7100
Just trebled my position up to 60 ILV. still a guppy, but a bigger guppy
Well, support is one hell of an incentive 😁
Im mainly just adding ETH for LP.
True. I would have loved to have more. But, well, can't 😁
Crazy
Preparing for us to take out the XYZ, take out the ILV, buy more ILV with XYZ and get ready to Stake it for good
So staking is definitely in 3 days tops? Not four or five or a week?
I don’t think we know
Ssooooooooooooooon
Because if it's still a week, then we might want to keep it in XYZ to be clear.
It’s a weird project, we have governance and it’s a dao. But it’s also not super transparent. Like I can’t contribute to #802110554784661544 without knowing what the game is like lol
Most likely u won't get another XYZ full epoch
Why not?
cause then you wouldnt have anything to discover by yourself
Yeah. But anyhow, think I'll keep it there, the moment they announce I'll unstake. Either I'll get another epoch or lose it.
On top of that we have a pretty good idea of what the game is like
just look at the leaks and the twitch
Wait why do you Need to know what’s in game to submit ideas lol
We have no input on how the battle system works. I think Aaron is smart/clever as fuck and it’ll work out. But the details of it are definitely under wraps .
and stick the pieces together
If the idea is already in game then you win. If it’s not then it could be something that might be considered
Check pinned
Ben gave us a lot of info today
I love reading #802110554784661544
Okay thanks.
Everybody talks details all the time... ya just gotta read lots an whatnot.
i wanna play the priv beta so bad
i hope i get in lol
Have been gaming for 15 years so should be able to give good feedback xD
Okay read the pinned. So does early game shart with less control points and as the match progresses you add more? Previously it was said matches would be short. If there’s rounds/progression matches can’t be that short
I personally hope they’re not short but that was what was stated before.
Control points?
Love the typo
It’s daily for me
You have a max value total and you place illuvials to get maximum synergies with the points available
then the combat happens
you choose them from your 30 cards hand
So if I’m fighting you, is there multiple rounds or just 1?
only 1
They said deck of 30, not hand of 30. I assumed hand size would be way smaller
I dont think so
you gotta have choices
So do we put down at a time? Like I pick 1, then you, back and forth until we eventually battle?
Like a draft almost?
yea
there will prob be a detailed medium out by the time we play right? with the whole game explained?
You have your deck or hand of 30.. and when a battle starts.. you choose loovies weapons and armor from that 30.. until you reach your point cap.. then battle starts.
Probably basics
Kinda.
but they want to keep the experience unique
they want us to discover everything which is super dope
I'm kind of hoping you can spend some points mid combat to react to what's occuring
No
Once the combat starts it's autobatlle
cant do anything
Okay I think I get it. In the later draft u can pick a big boy or a bunch of smaller boys
you gotta figure out what's the outcome before it starts
Yea
Pretty good idea
ive not even looked into the details and mechenics of the gameplay
Hrm, ok. In my mind I hoped there were breaks part way through to make choices. Will just see how it plays out
That is what an autobattler is
Cannot interupt the fight haha
Sure, but DOTA underlords/TFT have multiple rounds
Well U could have rounds like other aurobattlers, replace things that aren’t working etc
Yes but ours is only one round 1 vs 1
So interested to see how they add enough tactical depth with one round
Dept is way more crazier than TFT ahahhaha
I'm not saying it can't be done, just keen to see how they do it
There’s no way
Trust me lol tft is a kid game compared to what aaron and ben are doing
Don't want the meta to end up being "play a big boy last and it's 50/50 if your big boy counters their big boy"
U know from experience?
Played tft a lot
Me too
So i know the dept yes
But in tft ur playing against 7 other ppl. There’s no way a 1v1 has more depth
You'll see 😉
Do you know extra stuff as a councilman Rah?
I hope I’m pleasantly surprised
No
who knows in the future we get mulitple matches? 2v2 3v3?
idk if thats possible
What does Aaron always say... 1 month... 1 month later an people start to see things his way.
With enough ILV voting for it, anything is possible
Keeps it short
Haha
Definitely the potential is huge. I’m just so skeptical that a 1v1 autobattler could be more complex than tft
ill geuss we have to wait and find out
My worry is it ends up being like splinterlands which is essentially a 1 vs 1 autobattler, but there's very little way to actually counter plans etc
It isn't one round. It's 1 v 1.
We woke him up
Leviathan battle.. 5v5.. total chaos... Haha ooohhhhh... (dreams.. or nightmares?)
Amazing! That's what I'd hoped
Weapon, armor, enhancements, Illuvials synergies (class/elements), placement of illuvials, placement of avatar (cause you also fight), counter play during placement, psychology
I don't know about that. I would just say they are different.
Did we have dates for when winners for Clix and Satoshi Stacker NFTs are chosen/announced?
Glad to see it's not just one round, that gives me way more expectation of deep tactics
sat one will run for about a month
It's almost certain we will do that soon after release. Probably within 6 -12 months of launch. The reason to not start with it is because in our game you need to collect the cards. As such if there was a mode with everything playable it would feel less special.
ah i get that
@plain delta how's the super dooper crystal clear staking guide coming along?
people love to be able to grind for things, for example runescape grinding for 99s and 200m exp. Would be cool if we had like skills or something aswell that lvl up trough mining for example
Seems quite different to us. But I only looked for 30 seconds. I tend to use concepts and mechanics to make game fun rather than copying others.
Pretty sure there is 🧐
It's my evening. :)
Bonding...
Yea that's been a while lol
In my opinion, different from them is good. I want to be able to usr thought to win, not luck
Did you see anything in regards to the clix NFTs? I didnt find any timeframe/date myself.
Totally forgot about it
I believe it's end of this month
Well there is critical damage so there is some luck involved
Done. But I would say I failed on super clarity. It still requires a bit of knowledge not in the faq
You did a video lol ?
Some luck is good. Helps rubber band under powered teams up against stronger teams
But yea what do you mean not one round ? Like best of 3 in pvp but one round in pve ?
You have to grind to get your experience up. It's actually something I'm worried about because of the cost vs grind curve. We have ways of doing free grind but it just feels different to a normal game where the only currency is time.
That is kinda new info to me it seems
My bad. Edited.
hmm okey, what if u make more money when the lvl is higher? like it is in runescape. 99 woodcutting > 1 wc
increase rewards on skill level or something
or do i udnerstand the concept wrong
I was like daaaamn he really wants to be clear hahaha
Something like that.
You weren't wrong. Just different game modes.
I have a solution but it could he a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. So I'll leave it until closed beta and get feedback.
We're all learning
imma beg u to enter
Is the closed beta still for july?
id say august
I would assume end of July.. maybe... might be closer to mid or late August.
EOM is here, wen farming?
Like 3 days soon 😁
watching the stream from friday: coockie design 1o1
crazy amount of work to work on a stone path
indeed
something like an in-game title based on the live-streams you watched would be nice. Next to the balancer badge
Not sure cause not everyone is up for the live hahha
dedication 😄
if you watch all of them you would get a 'better' title then if you watched 1
something like the roles in the GU discord
(ex: demigod, archon, priest, .... from GU)
welcome!
Ami said that she thinks it's like 6 days max like 2 days ago
And just 10 NFTs for SatoshiStacker, damn that's going to be some sick value if You can grab one
hmm I wonder if these new whales that bought recently were exposed to ILV thru satoshi stackerrr
potentially based on timing
nice to see 🙂
lucky entries for them
Could be bought by his close friends etc since he agreed to partnership so that probably means he believe in project going to the moon at some point.
So when 40? 😁 love to see 40s again. Love to see some outperformance before the real action.
super excited for yield farming!! Can't wait to use the interface
and check it every 13 seconds
okay probably just a few times a day
xd
I hope we see something like XYZ. Like when you click on connect wallet, you see different options whether for Hot or Cold wallets.
XYZ interface is nice! Simple, easy to understand, I like it too yeah
Yeah. If it’s simple and diversified, it'll be awesome. Some websites only allow MM, which limits your options. Can't even use Ledger with those.
Thier is exact date when this game releases?
how to participate in NFT giveaway?
/rank
When’s staking available?
Well, you can use ledger via MM or not?
I think that contradicts a ledger
You can. But look at XYZ for example. MM is a separate option. If you Click on MM, then the normal version opens. If you click on Ledger, it'll read your MM-Ledger and open it. But some websites don't give you that option.
Hmm, just need to be able to use my ledger somehow for ILV staking and all good 🙂
Yeah I'd like that too. If the interface is comprehensive then I guess you should be able to connect anything. We don't know that yet, or at least I don't. 😄
in a couple of days presumably. No specific date yet
Q4. End of September-October
yep. for now you can enjoy the XYZ rewards which are gonna be released in about 11 hours, that is if you had staked them last Monday. 😄
I’m going to hold@out until next week
you are already eligible. just stick around.
If you're planning on staking on the Official ILV website, then it's pretty much gonna happen this week. So you won't have to wait much.
Good Morning✨✨
Salute 🙂
Hey Eden. It's morning there? 🤔
Nah, but I just woke up 😅
I would have if you were closer to me. I'm actually looking for one. need to stay in shape. I'm 73 kg, but need to work on fitness a bit
It's your morning then. explicitly for you 😄
@twilit junco besides you're already a whale XD
wut? I only got 405 $ILV. The only place where I'm a whale is alone in a goldfish bowl 😄
Bro 405 ILV is an exceptional decent number most of us have to dream about XD
I wonder why 5? why 400 + 5? XD
Well, I did go all-in into crypto with savings and the money I loaned to start a business, so we'll see how decent that choice was 😄
Was up to 400 already, found money for five more today. Gotta take what you can get 😄
It'll get decent-er once you see that staking will double in it a year (if not triple) 🙂 and year after year it'll only increase. so by the 4th year I guess you'll have thousands if you don't sell
haha. yeah. I was trying out my ledger and bought 10 more. 😄
Yeah, I'm not worried at all. There is a reason why I went all-in as soon as I found crypto gaming. Long-term that stuff is going to make me rich and there is a good chance that betting that hard on ILV will make it much earlier even. And on the slight chance that all goes to shit...I'm fine. Just means that vacation and buying a house isn't going to happen in a year or two already as planned.
Yep. that's the plan. 1000 ILV and one day $1k each, guess you'll be a milioner. but please don't dump on us shrimps haha XD
Tell that to all those that have 10x and more $ILV than me 😄
yeah I know. just kidding. I won't sell my initial inverstment. it'll stay there to generate more revenue. I'll work with that. 😄
one of the whales 😂
I'd say, everything from 406 and more $ILV is a whale 😄
oh haha
ILV is a whale magnet XD
It will for sure attract some huge new whales when staking is out and more gameplay is shown
lets hope it is at 200 then so it will be harder to become a new whale 😛
at it stays there. even in the bear market. 😄
krill here
hey kril. I'm shrimp. those are whales XD
What is the forecast for launching the Game?
Q4. Probably end of Oct-Dec
Hi!
How does this item work?
Is this the Shard item used to capture the defeated Illuvials?
Q4 is a correct forecast here, but keep in mind, Q4 is October-December!
!timeline
-Numerous partnerships with YouTube influencers in June / July
-Anticipated Yield Farming start date is near the end of June
-Gameplay trailer coming soon
-Mystery Auction shortly after that
-Closed beta this summer
-Open Beta / launch in early Q4
-Tier 1 Centralized Exchange listings imminent, date unknown.
Ah. Ok. I’ve got old info I guess. Oct-Dec from now on 😁 corrected it
if the game launches in 2021 i'll be a happy man
I smell doubts 🤔 I think November-December is ok. So far we've been experiencing one-month delays. If Beta goes well then it would be released without any more delay. But I will be a happy man too 😁
Will any nft be sold?
heroes or something like that
We currently have NFTs that are available on OpenSea... but none will provide any advantages in-game. The only NFTs available at the moment that can be used in the game are cosmetic skins or emotes 🙂
Real illuvials can only be caught in the game
what kind of skins
then once caught you can trade them as NFTs
@pallid siren
so the beginning of the game will be very important
if you can catch few of the genesis Illuvials, chances are they will be worth a lot
How are we going to get them?
m0z4rt skins! 🙂
you roam around in the game and try to "catch" them
Right now the skins are for Moz4rt which will be your drone that accompanies you throughout the game and holds your inventory, possibly gathers plants/resources for you, and will also store your captured Illuvials that you want to use in battle.
you can them with a Shard ( = like a pokeball )
then with those Illuvials you catch, you will be able to PvP vs other players
there will be tournaments etc etc
and you will earn ILV
😎
so moral of the story, first few weeks of launch --> no lifing
Wow
!opensea
Collectible Illuvium NFT's are already available on Opensea https://opensea.io/assets/illuvium All are limited edition. The emotes and m0z4rt skin NFT's are redeemable in game. Upon use, these NFT's will be burnt when applied in game. This is only true for these emote's and skins as they were bonuses for the initial ILV token sale.
There is also a partner set of very limited collectible NFT's such as the Spartan Squizz for partnering with Synthetix (SNX) https://opensea.io/assets/0xd07dc4262bcdbf85190c01c996b4c06a461d2430/134273 Those collectibles are not for in game use, this is so everyone has a fair and balanced start when the game is released.
yasssss ❤️
Are we going to have to buy this "Pokeballs"?
Not at first. There will be a free to play version in which you have free Tier 0 shards and you can capture the Tier 0 Illuvials (not very powerful). But that way, you can still build a team and battle to find out if you like the game.
Then if you want Tier 1 and higher Illuvials, you will need to pay to travel to a region with more powerful Illuvials... and also create better shards to capture the better Illuvials 🙂
I understood the game play but my question is whether you'll have to buy this Pokeball to capture the illuviuns
you will be able to mine and cure your own shards (pokeballs).
you will need to pay to cure the shards however
So let's capture using shards?
Hmm, I think I need to consider leaving Germany after all. Just read into taxes etc. and while it's great that any crypto you buy and sell after holding for at least a year is tax free regardless how big of a profit you make, they do tax any profits from trades earlier than a year AND from any kind of staking. So basically, they tax my income with 45% and from the money I then invest into crypto and start gaining staking profits from, they want to have 45% as well?! Yeah right...gotta check which countries come with proper laws lol
if you do not want to craft your own, you can buy via secondary market I believe
🔥
If you haven't read it already, check out our Whitepaper. This has a great overview of the game as well: https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/game-overview
How do they know you have staked and how much you're earning in your wallet?
just don't pay taxes?
if you use DEXes , governements wont know your funds
and if you move money to your bank accounts, use different accounts and stay below 5K euro a month on each account
There is no way anyone can follow DEXs. There's no KYC or such
Yeah, that is obviously something a lot of ppl use as an argument to not care, but german law allows those tax freaks to come after you ten years back, so who knows what's possible in nine years from now when it comes to determining what I did when and what I didn't include in my taxes.
also governements only try to target the really big players. They don't care about 10K, 50K or 70K
they don't have the resources to investigate all of that
You can make $1k into $10k. I wonder how they would know if you don't rush the money back to your account
I mean even if you want to withdraw (from Binance for example) there's a limit. If you don't keep the money on CEX still there's no way anyone can check your Ledger or MM. Is there?
When you send money from your bank account to Binance, wouldn't it be possible to check that binance account and then see where you transferred something to from binance for example?
yes
Well let's say you send $1k t Binance. Then from Binance you send it to MM. There anything can happen to it. You can lose it or make it $10k. Binance won't know that as won't any government. That's what DeFi supposed to be
So how would they tax you for something you don't hold on CEX?
Of course if you have 10k in your account and suddenly you withdraw $1M, banks might ask questions, but if you keep that number low I don't think any government would care. Would they? 🤔
They could in theory check etherscan and all the transactions of the wallet I send stuff to so many times from Binance? I know, all hypothetical and I'm not super worried right now, but just in general, I don't want to even have to hide anything just because of a government that has been stuck in the stone ages for years already.
And then you google for crypto tax havens and the first result shows Germany on #2 lol
Hmmmm. How do they know it's even your wallet you're sending money from Binance to? (don't know this part)
True, they cannot prove it I guess. I mean, I could have a gambling problem and all the money from binance was send to my bookie 😄 I'll just have to check what other options the world has to offer and see if something better AND interesting is even available. As a hodler I know that Germany is amazing (and ranks so high as crypto tax haven) because as long as you hold for a year before selling, you don't care about taxes anymore. But staking makes it super complicated when done by the book and trying to avoid breaking the law.
Well. No one can block your MM. Just move to a tax free country, open a bank account, withdraw as much as you like. And show the finger to the government 😁
I've seen lots of people moving to Arab countries to do transactions. With your passport, it's quite easy to do that if you think you'll be subject to high taxes @twilit junco
I was actually considering to move to Dubai for a while and Dubai has 0 taxes for private people to my knowledge so that obviously is quite lucrative. I wouldn't mind just buying a house in Germany either but planning to hodl $ILV long-term means I don't really gain anything from the crypto tax benefits in Germany while they want to have a 45% cut of all my stake/revenue share profits (unless I break the law and hide it) which I find completely insane and ridiculous.
Yeah I know. Tax sucks. I guess all agree. If what you say is the case you end up losing 45% to tax, then you should think of something. You don't have to break the law, but I don't think you'll have to play by their rule either. Do you? Dubai might be a nice choice. You can move the money back to Germany little by little or in cash. Not illegal at all. And you can even diversify and send the money to different accounts (like your patents’). I'm just coming up with ideas. No idea if it's practical at all
Ah, don't worry - I'll find a solution 😄
The Netherlands has 0 % tax on investments
You'd better 😂 I don't want to see you lose %45. My packet started crying after hearing it 😂
@twilit junco move to Netherlands then. Even closer to you 😎
Is that so? Didn't come across Netherlands yet when researching. Will take a look. As said, Germany is already great if you hodl, but any trades (NOT cash outs to FIAT) with a profit before a year of holding AND any profits from staking seem to be included in what you have to pay taxes for. Heavy ILV staking just sucks in that case 😄
Nice logic. Can I move there? 😁
Yes they love expats
Always wanted to visit Amsterdam, Rotterdam and such, I guess 😄 Definitively putting Netherlands on my research list then, thanks
Meh amsterdam
I know it'll be futile. They don't let Iranians in so easy.
Yep. Let me get my Turkish Pass, I'll move there.
You are DEFINITELY not the USA. 🙂 I guess it's much more comfortable living there than America
Portugal apparently is 0 taxes on anything crypto as well. Gotta check that out 😄
If not Amsterdam, what would you advice instead then? Just for my own research ^^
Theres a tax on capital in the netherlands
Box 3 vermogensbelasting
It can be easy to circumvent using debt but it is there
Good to know, thanks
From what I gather from the US cryptosphere you are taxed per transaction or they atleast want to know all your transactions
In NL you are taxed on your total net worth (capital - debt) each year. They come up with a fictional return on that net worth, and you pay 30% of that return. If your net worth is below 50k you pay nothing, if it is 100k you pay like half a percent, if 200k like 1 percent, you only really start to feel it once your net worth is above 1M, at which you can play around with debt comfortably
In Germany, the way I read it, any kind of trade that nets you a profit at the time of trading (not time of converting to FIAT) is subject to taxes unless you did buy a crypto and hold it for at least 12 months. That basically means that every kind of trade I'll make in the Illuvidex (considering I didn't buy and hold for a year) is something I'll have to document and consider for taxes...that's absurd. I'm not gonna pay the f* government taxes for a Loovie I went out catching and then selling on the marketplace. You gotta be kidding me.
isnt that only when trading currencies though?
do NFTs qualify as currencies?
and is it a buy if its a gambling reward
Theres a lot of 'tricks' in NL you can use to get that net worth number down as well (real estate you live in doesnt count)
Companies taxed separately etc
Not the way I understood my research. "Goods" qualified as well and in regards to staking I clearly read it is subject to taxes. Gambling doesn't necessarily prevent you from taxes either. You still pay taxes if you speculated on a profit and actually get it. That's why you need to hold crypto for 12 months for example to get out of taxes for it.
Sounds interesting. I think NFT and marketplaces will become a real issue as well. Portugal for example seems to be great for crypto if you're not an active trader. Well I'm not, I hodl and stake BUT, as what do several daily transactions on marketplaces in games count moving forward? They do after all net me a profit too. So much to consider lol. Easiest way is to find something where it's nice to live and in general just 0 taxes 😄
well, as soon as they find out, a case law will almost certainly be in the governments favor
the question is, what happens with the transactions until then
Yeah...
Book a ticked and fly to Dubai and you'll see lots of traders. Active and passive and in between 😁 but unless you are sitting on a tremendous profit, I should warn you that life is also expensive there
You don't have to check. Just check for notification on the phone 😁
That is something I'm currently looking into as well. Same with Singapore f.x. One thing is to save taxes but if the difference in living expenses comes close to or is even higher than those saved taxes then it better be a country you absolutely want to live in no matter what 🙂 I'm currently looking into Portugal while also trying to see how life here at home in Germany as full-time crypto gamer/invester might look like in terms of finances.
Sure. You can also come to Turkry. Not the best in terms of banking system, but you'll have a quite life. And it’s way cheaper than europe
Hehe, don't think Turkey would be for me ^^
I can buy your bicycle. 😁 haha
That's where I am moving to in 1.5 yrs
I'm looking into that the most right now while checking what happens in Germany. The official government body just announced ideas like increasing holding times until crypto can be sold for profit tax free from 1 to 10 years for example. Obviously, we have to see if this (or any of the other ridiculous proposals) actually become law but if so, then I'll definitively have to leave. If not, I still have to see what to do about staking taxes etc.
Im glad that Kieran is nice guy and he waits until end of Epoch in XYZ 😉
I am in the US and got killed last yr for taxes and that was enough for me. Not the main reason for moving to PT but one of many to get out of the US. The Feds here are going after people who did not include their cryto in their returns and the penalties will be steep.
Yeah, I can imagine US could be hard in crypto too yeah. I actually considered Portugal for other reasons earlier as well, so if it looks good for crypto and I feel I need to leave Germany I might go there too
👍
One reason i HODL most of the time
I dont get why the U.S. doesnt just get rid of taxes and just print the money they need. lol
Lol
reverse Robin Hood and print $$$, the more the merrier they don't care, that is what the gov is all about.
uberinflation
lol
Happy $38 haha 😄
ok US is officially crossed out of my list of countries I like to live in XD
🤣 Give me 2 mins and I can give you about 99 other reasons not to live here 😊
you don't have to. Americans have problems with Iranians. So, even if I wanted to it'd be extremely difficult for me to come there. I'm better off trying my luck in europe XD
It seems anymore Americans have a problem with Americans and everyone else. That is why I too am going to try my time I have left on this earth in Europe as well.
Do you know who we can participate to the NFT Airdrop with Satoshi Stacker ?
sure. we'll see one another along with other people from the community in europe one day XD
just be here. That's enough. you are already eligible
I know we will after all we have been invited on @lofty knoll yatch after he flies us in his private plane 🤗 😍
Way to much!!
yep. can't wait for that 😄
would be amazing
You meant cement helicopter?
😮 Oh I see 😆
Why is the gas so high now
XYZ guys breaking the internet lol
nah, can't believe this is all nft related.. isn't it just btc dumping?
practically 10k mintings in 30 minutes
it's over now, let's see if it reduces the gas
yea over
There was a limit on mints
15 Minutes for bulls guys
10k
Is anyone here from Illuvium involved with xyz governance?
which nft's dropped?
doesn't want us to collect rewards. typical. It's XYZ to blame
Hahahahha
are we gonna see 40s tonight/day? XD
I bet we hit 27K members before 40s
both are cool XD
there's xyz polymorphs (done) and also bulls on the block in 10
hold on to your pants guys ..another 10k mints in 8 min lol
Maybe if u pamp it
hah. Me? the only thing I can pump toinght is water temp to take a shower before sleep XD
Hahahahhaha
For what haha
XYZ??
Xyz breaking eth network
I wanted to join them, but 0.07 was a bit high. i had to pay the gas money for it. i have set it aside for the staking/unstaking procedure
damnn
looked cool. 😄
gas RIP lol
that's crazy. it was 10 then jumped to 91. damn
tehy kept announcing in their discord and tweeiter
bulls are 0.08 ETH. Polymorph was 0.07 ETH
by the way. happy 39 😄 they are pumpig ILV too apparently
Imagine ILV starts the journey.
for now I'm happy that I'm not totally in loss 😄
bulls are even worse than xyz lol ...gas is stooooooopid
How many people does their community have? I don't think it's bigger than ILV
nah not rly man...around 6k
but they only have 10k bulls to drop that's why
like most NFT projects
hmmm. I wonder if ILV will have something similar. something crazier
this is really crazy indeed.. people keep speeding up their tx
It had to happen the night I wanted to collect rewards 😫
stepping away.. i'll buy a nice one after the dust settles 

People in Australia have already started Monday. 😄 imagine if we wake up and see the announcement 😄
he is F-ing F5 haha XD
holy crap gas is above 300 XD the F-ed the net.
450
Ah. I was checking gasnow.org
it's gonna go down to under 10 again after all the mints don't worry
hope so. gonna take the rewards, but leave ILV there. I'm gonna wait for the announcement or a date or something in case it takes a week
all sold out ..let's get b to normal lol
Thats crazy
does ILV plan to pull off something like that?
Mystery sale at some point
it's gonna explode sooooooo BIG
the eventual illuvium nft marketplace will be on an L2 though, no?
its bullsontheblock
their sale had so much demand
it fucked gas
i failed with 250 gwei
yeah, gave up
we're at 550 haha
10k is held by 900 people
was at 0.5 eth gas for a 0.8 eth mint 😅
whales held the project hostage.
lol
people throw some much money at these it's crazy
because you make so much money
ive made 25-30 eth this month
on these projects
with like a 1 eth initial investment
no strat
just buy when theres fomo
and sell
lmao
all these have 10k mint
presales
buy during presale, sell first 2 hours
thats it
we are nearing the top or at the top
this is insane
noooo
apes are 3.5 ETH floor
dogs 1 eth floor
gutter cats 1 eth floor
these projects are crazy
Yea lol we should be 100m + vakue already
staking still on for end of this month/ beg of next?
Still end as far as i know
also i see we have better retention of new comers
True
I suppose those who came from stacker will at least stay till the end of drawing, since that's why they came? Or did you mean in general?
That's probably true. Unless they also start investing, I guess they'll wait for the NFTs.
hopefully some will stay for the game, but it's kinda hard to get enthusiastic unless you are specifically into the gameplay concept
the art is also a great
but most people probably want to see gameplay
Everyone starts somewhere. Maybe some whales are lurking waiting for the right moment to jump in.
plz buy more ilv and we definetly will be 100m+
Arash and Vidar were talking and I didn’t keep checking the name but saw white profile pictures and thought why the fuck is vidar talking to themselves lol
Realized I’m just a moron
Haha 😂 I exploded 💥
Dont do drugs kids
Did we? Still 39,80 on sushi
$40.34 now, hold on for the ride 🚀
$1000 or FUD
That's the outperformance we need 😁 let it loose and fly high
It's a start, better 40 than 30 🤭
@hearty veldt in general. Been looking at the channel stats. Usually we were hovering around 25k ppl
now its almost 27k
i want him to be my investment manager (ofc no)
he is good financial adviser (n0)
guys. just buy ilv.
pshhh, holding till 5k!
I hate unreal price predictions :(
scratch that, 10k!
Thats over a 1 billion market cap
REEEEEEEEE
I think $500-1000 is possible

300-500 short term
but
I am more excited about the game
not worried about token
tbh
token will go up from strong game release
im not worried about price, im thinking of all those fees we will be milking
Yes exactly
The more locked the better. Even rewards are locked and won't be released all at the same time. It depends in when people click on claim to receive it a year later. No major dump at all. All points to the sky 😁

chacha still sold the dip so far
I believe we can fly. I believe we can touch the sky 😁
he sold at 29 1 time lol
He sold it to me. Cause I bought there. A tiny portion ofc
Monster
HAHA
Arash indicator
why is this pumping?
Market sentiment + yield farming startign soon
Haha. I was waiting for that moment and jumped with all teeth an nail 😁
nothing else is moving though?
It should have stated way before. We all thank the dip providers
oh okok
Not much going on in the market. Pump is ILV exclusive
COMP 7%
Market sentiment came back and I think ppl are FOMOing on ILV in anticipation of yield farming
NFA just my opinion
isee isee
Understandble and predictable.
30 was a price we shouldn’t have seen.
"u remember when u bought at 40 😛
Hope we never see it again. Even in the bear market
ididnt thin it would get ther
No one did. There was nothing left of the MC.
for real
the great thing about this pump is that when the farm caomes out they dont wanna sell
people musts been selling saat a loss
and the ppl who sold for a loss gonna feel fomo
yeah
50 incoming
They'll rush back in, the tokens will be locked, the rewards will be locked and slowly released after one year, so no dump and all pump
Bought a nice size bag when this was 30. Happy I did
That too
We are brothers in arms 😁
im expecting some seed investors to sell in March
our boy newcomer.
but hopefully its not OGs
Maybe, but most will be locked and revenue will keep coming and will compensate for any loss.
its a matter of time before the masses will find out about ilv
You choose it.
optionally locked
It’s my pops
he is a king
Let there be deep and thorough YT vids, and we'll be dealing with swarms
Another King in the game? Can there be 2 kings? 😁
Marketing is important
oh ok cool
hope it goes full blown once demo is out
He’s retired
Lots of tokens did 10X or more. ILV is unique not only in game, but mostly the project behind it. Once people realize “hey you not only get rewards for staking, but are paid to play and get a share of the revenue” they'll jump in
Still a king though 😁
The longer, the better the rewards.
you think a descent living is possible with 60 illuvium?
maybe in 2030 if you can wait
If you plan it right anything is possible. By staking (one year) you get double the position.
you mean i earn 60illuvium in one year?
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Depends on many factors. Everything will be clear in the new Medium that'll be published soon. Keep an eye out for the announcement
imagine gaming with that chair
My imagination is to the roof now 😁
like i really wonder if it's comfortable
For that price, it'd better be
big facts
planing to stake for maximum and get silv, then spend ingame to catch the rare ones and make a living. hope that works 😄
one day that will be 0.7 ILV 👀
Looks awesome, I'm quite happy with mine though 😄 https://secretlab.eu/collections/titan-series#titan_2020-alliance
Sure. Make a plan, stick to the plan and enjoy your life
yea i got a secret lab one too atm
whats up with these gaming chairs, are they so comfortable?
I have a sofa 😁 and it's not mine. It came with the house
I'm super happy with Secret Lab personally. Have one at work as well. I prefer the ones with softweave fabric over PU leather though but for mine at home I had to get the WoW Alliance special edition. Couldn't resist 😄
i would buy one with the illuvium icon on it
I would have gone with “FOR THE HORDE”
I like villains more that heroes 😁
should make these and sell for 10illuvium
@humble wave haha
Are you crazy? 10 $ILV is going to be $10.000+ and more! keeps dreaming 😄
You read my mind. I wanted to say that 😂
😄 btw, I checked Portugal for hours now. Looks good to me. Gotta check with my boss if we can arrange a deal to move there next year probably if further research confirms my initial gut feeling. Germany wants taxes on staking AND every token used for staking get's a prolonged ten year timer (instead of one year) until you can sell the token without paying taxes on the profit as well.
yea that chair looks insane
i really want to know if it's really gonna be that comfortable
Damn. I had no idea Germany would take it that far. I've hear the UK is trying to ban Crypto too, but had never thought Germany would make people miserable like that. So think on it, try moving somewhere to be financially free.
I think they still have to pass the ten year stuff, but staking to my knowledge is already tax regulated. Regardless though, not a fan of where the discussions are going and I yearn for more sun anyway 😄
I have the omega but all of them just look the exact same to me haha. Can’t even tell how the titan is any different than the omega.
Size 🙂
Yep. I welcome you to Portugal then 😁
<- 195cm, not going to sit in an Omega all day long 😄
I think they do have a Titan XL now too, and yeah, tallies as well! I'm not fat! 😄
how are the fabrics, isnt it sweaty or anything?
I found the softweave fabric to be super comfortable personally. For the PU Leather I have a towel/blanket on the part I sit on. Never been much of a fan when it comes to leather (even synthetic) especially when it gets hot.
Also, time to get some sleep on my end. Keep that pump going and see you all in the morning 🥱 😴
I might get one when illuvium releases
Nice ilv pump today
insane, we get up to 40celsius/104 here in austria
gonna do that when i sold everything for illuvium 😅
agreed, crazy stuff gonna happen in the years to come
Here it's 25 C but humid af. Can't breathe sometimes
102 for me atm
You stand and you feel like every part is sweating. 😁 but this is still Istanbul. I wonder how they survive in Vietnam
Yeah. But I don't think I can survive in Kuwait. It's literally 30-40 Degrees inside the house with AC on
They breathe fire
i guess im not moving there lol
Why would you? The whole country is 1/10 of London 😁
One of my students was from Kuweit and he said he had 100 cousins can you believe that?
yeah i can lol
Gas back to normal. Sheesh
if thats you and youre actually gonna sell your 10k ilv, dm me
44 for now
I know. I’m only half way in. Joe promised me dumps that lying fuck
Lololol
now im just trying to work out how i get enough eth to pair this...
Step 1 spend all your money on ilv at the bottom. Step 2 sell only a little because you sacrificed a goat and now your buy in is 2x and you made money
ha i dont really have any nfts
just a mozart
only those with a mozart will be allowed into the citadel
Which one did you pick up
Nice. I’m debating getting that one too. I bought the pink one so far for my daughter
its actually a pretty good deal now
Eth big dildo
Just kidding they’ll be worth nothing no one buy them.
i thought we all start with one?
With a mz yeah. Talking about balancer skins
prob a yellow one
ah i see
I'd totally rock a yellow Moz4rt
name it pikachu
@strange wharf would lose their shit
It’s like people finally realised that we’re distributing 30% of the token through YF
yeah at $30 the price was basically the same as seed round
Took them a while😅
I only bought 50% in so far. Don’t feel too bad. We can drink and cry in a corner by ourselves
My average is still so high
i think everyone knew that, but you delayed it by like 2 months
to play devil's advocate a little bit

Wishes and regrets filling air 😁
delayed like 1 month maybe, just confusion on the timeline too
Same....
We make our own knock knock jokes here💪
RIP
The good days are AMAZING
Nah im good now, I have DAI ready to rock
waiting for XYZ to unlock
Stop giving alphas
You’re holding that right?
I didnt do the pool
Im just waiting to see what Luggis and other ppl do
Ape szn engaged
lol
It’s nice to see the price climbing up step by step. Getting ready for the real news 😁
50s tonight/by staking date?
Staking Monday or Tuesday? Either way should push passed 50 by then, maybe even 60
Be ready....for anything 😎
Aren't you past your bedtime? LOL
Yeap. It’s 2:53 am. Was watching Rambo: Last Blood. Then thought, wait, in 6 minutes I can claim XYZ rewards 😁 so I'll do that then crash for good.
Yeah. Good thing Gas went back down
😉 I have been sitting here all day waiting for the medium article and for XYZ rewards. I am all excited for everything. 🙌
So are all of you unstaking?
Haha. Yeah the reward is nice, but still in dark towards the medium.
Sure. Like we're gonna destroy Gas this time: by unstaking
😢 soon, I can feel it 😆
Hopefully this week. This body can't take any more waiting. I want it NOW 😁
🤣 👍
Good luck
In a minute we'll see huge amount of ILV getting unstaked. I wonder what that'll do to the pool
LFGooooo
i dont think people will unstake right away
Lets see how she holds
We'll see. Imagine not in a hurry to unstake 😁
I'm not
is ur ILV locked in XYZ for an epoch?
no
Exactly. I'm just curious to find out 😁
No
ah then its fine, if it was locked risky 😄
Definitely won't be unstaking on XYZ until ILV staking is official
Haha $3 to unstake .... Cheap



