💬〕general

[gloomy ibex]

nope, another year of vested distribution

[weary spruce]

yep

[proud badge]

you got in @ $140

[sage falcon]

is any update info about additional degen buy NFT for those who buy at 140$ like i am

when claiming the NFT's, do you receive them right away or at the launch of the game?

Wooo I just won 0.21btc

and still not sell ✊

thanks

[west notch]

my advice is to turn your $140 purchase into an NFT and sell it on open sea

[sage falcon]

ohh diamond idea !!!

[vocal bolt]

Guys, just got a notification from "Spotless" that i won a giveaway

is it real?

thnx

@sage falcon

[gloomy ibex]

It's always a scam if you get a unsolicited DM winning something

[round onyx]

If a crypto giveaway needs anything more than your public wallet address to pay out, it's a scam.

[foggy arch]

filling my bag again on that $54

[sage falcon]

✊ that buy was on 1 eth

[foggy arch]

feeling so good 😎

[lapis ingot]

I ever got that notification too. they collected my email to register an account but so far no one contacted me. Likelywise I also did not get the so call . Not sure what their intention for such scamm

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-what-are-you-waiting-for-determined-angry-gif-5247874

[lapis ingot]

Oh from there try to log into my account?

[bright kraken]

24/72 hrs in : 1/3 of LBP completed, currently sitting at $5M MC. At this rate of buys, that puts ILV at a $15M MC by the end of the LBP if price remains constant at $56/ILV.

I personally think this project should have much higher than 15M so I just did a big buy.

[red geyser]

Oh yeah that could happen

Change that password

[bright kraken]

Coingecko is actually well-synced to the LBP, I thought they lagged data, but guesss not https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/illuvium

[hybrid finch]

@bright kraken 1 million x 50$ is 50M MC sir

[red geyser]

The calculation is done on a very limited circulating supply. It’s still too early

[narrow basalt]

Hello! NFT-Question Here. So i am going to buy for 1 ETH. I can claim an NFT post sale for 1 Point. They are Not limited right? So I dont have to sit infront of the pc for 12 hours..

[vital lynx]

Really don't trap yourself into buying a high price

[hybrid finch]

@bright kraken your calculation makes no sense in any scenario

[vital lynx]

The balancer force is quite strong if you havent noticed

[narrow basalt]

Thank you!

[west notch]

that calculation only makes sense in a constant price scenario

[lime comet]

how much of the lbp liquidity?

[hybrid finch]

supply is 1m, just because its not taken out of the pool doesn't mean its not supply

[red geyser]

I think it’ll be the leftovers.

[gloomy ibex]

circulating supply

[vital lynx]

There are soo many swaps in the space, I'm actually curious what made the team decide on sushi?

[sage falcon]

Good afternoon Illuvians hope everyone is having a good day

[lime comet]

Sushiswap is great, why not.

[vital lynx]

what's the difference with like 1inch or uni?

[red geyser]

I haven’t bought yet. So good!

[sage falcon]

who know where i can mint nft and add to NFT secret data (private key) which will accesable only for owner of this nft?

rarible allow adding secret data? will check, thx

[soft cliff]

Is the pool management page (https://pools.balancer.exchange/#/pool/0xd0DD7451D58318d8d528B83a8F45b0a22b7EAcD1/) slower to update than the 1inch and illuvium swap pages? they all give 3 different prices when I refresh at the same time

[sage falcon]

Yet ehhhh. Imma watching too

[soft cliff]

im not talking about swapping on 1inch, i mean the price monitoring

[sage falcon]

i want add to nft private key from wallet from which trade was made (with ILV on it)

[cosmic yarrow]

Hello any wallet that accept ILV?.

[red geyser]

Yeah. Imma spend ALL my eth. (-gas pile) It is not a whole number.

[spare river]

Looks like the bot gave up

[bright kraken]

You know the selling pressure ends at 50/50 meaning if the pool balance drops under 500K the LBP buys back $ILV

[soft cliff]

yeah look i refreshed these at the same time, all show different prices

[sage falcon]

hey, where did you get that chart?

[soft cliff]

https://1inch.exchange/#/ILV/WETH?network=1

as i said, i refreshed all at the same time

[red geyser]

No I don’t think that’s how it works.

[gloomy ibex]

That's not how it works

[sage falcon]

is there a smart contract address for this balancer pool as well?

not the token address but pool

no

don't have those skills

just wanted to see the bot everyone was talking about

[gloomy ibex]

Go read this to understand how Balancer works. hopefully it will better explain. #💬〕general message

[heavy knoll]

What do you guys think the best price to buy at would be?

[soft cliff]

4.20 is the minimum it can go, right??

Hmmm I'm pretty sure Kieran said that

[gloomy ibex]

only if no one purchased the entire time

[heavy knoll]

what pin?

oh

[soft cliff]

Yea that's not going to happen

But good to know

Ofc

[bright kraken]

isn't that what I said

[night scroll]

for me to buy one token fee is 100$,is that normal?

[formal oar]

gas is 🔥 rn.

[bright kraken]

Does it not? I thought it always pushes towards final weight

[night scroll]

wow eth 2.0 wen

[ionic sonnet]

900K tokens still left to be sold.. price should continue to fall

[formal oar]

6hrs from now, gas will be lower and hopefully ILV will be lower. hold out!

[fair moat]

Unless it hits 50 and everyone apes in again

[bright kraken]

Every LBP has a final weight.

[formal oar]

lol that's why I said "hopefully"

[ionic sonnet]

The final weight is 50/50

Started at 96/4 I believe

[kind trellis]

Current weight are 60-40

[dapper jewel]

kick @sage falcon hes dming people with a bitcoin scam

[terse maple]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-tight-cats-funny-animals-funny-cats-hold-on-gif-14517668

[bright kraken]

bro thats exactly what I just said, if we have 60% ethereum, 40% ILV then ethereum get bought back by the LBP

I mean

Ethereum gets sold and ILV gets bought back

[rare crypt]

Hi! how can I convert PreILV tokens to the ILV tokens ?

[bright kraken]

"You know the selling pressure ends at 50/50 meaning if the pool balance drops under 500K the LBP buys back $ILV" I said this and you said I was wrong

[foggy arch]

It'll be converted automaticaly after the IDO

[rare crypt]

thanks!

[ionic sonnet]

Not true.. current weights are 85/15

[bright kraken]

Yes it does if the weights change

[kind trellis]

ah yes 87-12. I was looking at another lbp 😆

[sage falcon]

@ionic sonnet it's 85.44/14.56

[bright kraken]

If the weights flipped right now, it would buy ILV and sell ETH

[gloomy ibex]

where is it buying it from?

[bright kraken]

And it does matter lmao

[ionic sonnet]

Yes

[gloomy ibex]

Just trying to walk through the theory to see where it ends up

if it got to a 40/60, balancer would then apply upward pressure to get back to 50/50. If that's what he is calling buying

[whole mist]

What do you predict will happen to the price of ILV when this sale is over and its only available on the exchanges? Will it drop because their will be a lot more coins in circulation?

[restive iron]

is this the same guy with the smart contract from yesterday that is just arbing the balancer pool?

and getting free ILV?

[red geyser]

#🚨❗〕report-scammers

[restive iron]

if he keeps operating, can the price go down?

[hybrid finch]

yes

[restive iron]

dang, does it ruin it for the rest of us? can the price go down while hes operating?

[idle terrace]

Holy

[hybrid finch]

@restive iron the opposite transaction is literally below that one

[restive iron]

ah ok i see

but will the price still go down or no?

[severe igloo]

hmmm.... seems like we stuck around 60 ish

[idle terrace]

It’s inching down just slow af

[restive iron]

but does it inch down and then he arbs and it stays pretty constant? that is what i am trying to understand

[idle terrace]

I was able to see the weight live yesterday but I was pretty damn hammered and now I can’t remember where I saw it at.

[civic canyon]

Guys is it good price now to purchase ILV ?

[idle terrace]

Thx bro

[sage falcon]

slippage should get lower as the ratio changes right?

[fair moat]

Who is the sound designer of this game

[tepid dust]

[fair moat]

And do we know if its gonna have bopping music?

[severe igloo]

Slower then a pro-edger indeed. Not sure if we will actually see 20 USD tbh

[idle terrace]

Just buy it higher than me

[severe igloo]

but we still need to go into the night

[gloomy ibex]

keep waiting, but that is not financial advice

[severe igloo]

at least 40 should be doable

[idle terrace]

The trailer music is surprising decent

[fair moat]

Thanks ❤️

[idle terrace]

And I’m a sucker for wailing at the end

[civic canyon]

When it would be in the exchanges?

[severe igloo]

soon bruh, soon. First the LBP.

[ionic sonnet]

A fair price is 10-15.. anything more than that is buying into the hype and speculation - this is my own opinion, I am not a financial advisor

[idle terrace]

I’d grab a big ass bag if I knew more about this game but it’s still early, I’ll probabaly be buying over the next year

[severe igloo]

Actually, all game stocks skyrocket before launch due to hype.

[sage falcon]

is there a countdown as well

is there a countdown as well, when it ends

25hours passed now right

[ionic sonnet]

By no means am I saying it won’t moon.. just my opinion on risk v reward. I would not be surprised if everybody who participates in the sale makes money

[earnest herald]

Was the plan to use $ILV in future game projects as well?

[fair moat]

Oh really? Games beyond just Illuvium?

[severe igloo]

maybe not the apes at the front.... who knows.... Max sup is pretty low

[fair moat]

And "was" the plan? Or still "is" the plan?

[fierce vine]

is the plan

[fair moat]

Thats actually sick. I think the ability to transfer NFTs between games is one of the most exciting aspects of NFTs

[whole mist]

I guess my question is, will ILV have any value since ETH is going to be the currency in the game?

[ionic sonnet]

Owning ilv essentially gives you rights to profit sharing

[ionic sonnet]

I would suggest reading up on the medium articles that discuss the vault / payout structure

[round cypress]

Thanks

[sage falcon]

There is some concern cause its basically a Dao that there is a lot of uncertainty, nothing is written in stone and nobody knows how it will be in the end , what rights/revenue etc will look like and what u get. thats the risk of investing very early.

Would be interesting if anoyne did a direct comparison with the token utility of axies vs illivium here.

cause axies is way ahead in terms of development

[west notch]

whoops i swapped the two labels

ill be back

lol

[fierce vine]

I don't think you can do a direct comparison of the two. Possibly utility wise but you're comparing basically a studio to a game that anyone with a small amuont of coding experience can create. Maybe it'll show you how rights will work but Idk their governance structure compared to what ILV is doing

[west notch]

o i think i fixed it

clearly acd1 is way more proficient at this game

[idle terrace]

So staking won’t generate any ILV until revenue is generated?

[torn patio]

isnt staking and yield farming the same thing?

you lock your tokens, you get 1.2, 1.5, 2x weight based on how long you lock for?

2x max, up to 1 year lock

[idle terrace]

Yeah I’m a bit lost.

[restive iron]

well axie had a fair launch for their token and NFTs that didn't involve bots arb'ing their launch system to generate free tokens. so looks like they are doing something right. was pretty stoked for this one, but pretty disappointed in the execution, seems like the team / council got outsmarted here. (or maybe the botter is on the council and knew what he/she/they were doing when they came up with the $50 proposal)

[idle terrace]

To do either we have to lock our coins or no?

[whole mist]

So whatever you invest now, you probably won't see any ROI until the game is live, as far as staking? Just wanting to know, so I know what to expect if I decide to invest.

[torn patio]

you are likely asking about Staking

there is a Medium post about this on the Illuvium page

[fierce vine]

Well anyone in voice chat/degen know my feeling on the $50 start so that's one thing but I know before we say the team was outsmarted you're going to have to let the full launch play out. If one person gets rich but the goal of getting ILV into players is realized and more people are able to get ILV than with other launch mechanisms then I'd say it's successful.

[torn patio]

you can stake your tokens after the BLP sale for up to 1 year, netting 2x weight

[restive iron]

true, good pt

[fierce vine]

Plus if we are talking about how successful a game continuously is I'd like to point out how much it is to get started playing Axie and what their new player count is.

sILV is only in game currency too, wont be pulled out as ILV

[restive iron]

they onboarding about 2k players per week from what i have seen

[fierce vine]

It's not 2k per week when their active player count is less than 5k lol

[restive iron]

active player count is about 25k DAU

[idle terrace]

I’ve read the damn medium article like 10 times but I don’t still don’t get the yield farming part. I understand the revenue distribution portion.

[fierce vine]

he was saying 2k new players a week

[tacit urchin]

is it a card game or wah

[raw canyon]

So no point in buying 1 ILV?

[fresh hornet]

I admire everyone’s patience holding out on this. But if the LBP had started at 100 as originally planned (which I accept it didn’t) you’d all be hoovering ILV up at 50-60. What are you waiting for?!! GLA.

[fierce vine]

If you guys want you can ping me in off topic so we don't spam up their questions lol

[restive iron]

correct, that is the figure

[ionic sonnet]

That is axie.. I’m going to delete my comment to avoid confusing

[raw canyon]

Ohhhh

[static basalt]

is there any info on when ilv will be listed?

[raw canyon]

Is it possible to play this game if I just buy 1 ILV also when is release date

[fierce vine]

30 min after balancer ends

[raw canyon]

I believe it's listen against usdt on a site already

[idle terrace]

U can play the game without any ILV

[static basalt]

ah ok

[ionic sonnet]

But what does that figure represent? I recently created an account but then saw the ridiculous price to just try out the game? Am I considered a new player even though I’ve never played the game

[fierce vine]

Yes you can play w/o any IL:V

[static basalt]

thanks!

[reef nexus]

you dont have to buy any ILV to play the game - its free to play

[restive iron]

no, but no more chat about that game here per Ami

[fierce vine]

#799010390201466880 message

[brisk pagoda]

Are you confused about staking vs. yield farming?

[fierce vine]

that's a link to off topic if you have more Axie questions

[red geyser]

You can play the game with out any ILV

[raw canyon]

Thank you

[idle terrace]

Yes.

[fierce vine]

Keep in mind to get into the "play to earn" areas you'll have to spend a fee to get into the better areas. There's a 0 tier area that yuo can't really earn any money but can learn and play the game.

[ionic sonnet]

Yes, could you provide a high level crash course? I could also provide my interpretation but don’t want to cause confusing if I’m wrong

[fierce vine]

but don't need actual ILV

[forest forge]

All buying in this is good

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/inception-deeper-go-deeper-we-need-to-go-deeper-leonardo-di-caprio-gif-16756828

[forest forge]

24 hour over now the next 48 hour will be interessant to see how the price will be i think we will see end prices between 15 and 30$

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-salzsauler-death-or-glory-gif-18186036

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-apes-apes-alone-weak-gif-16849255

[fierce vine]

I took hourly naps last night so I'm all good for tonight

[raw canyon]

So is it safe to assume I can buy ILV not play the game and still earn money if the game does well

[fierce vine]

https://tenor.com/view/fat-ape-lazy-open-mouth-shocked-gif-18112554

[idle terrace]

I feel like no one could buy for the next 48 hours and the price would end up at $50.01

[lofty knoll]

WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

WHAAAAATS UPPPPP

[ionic sonnet]

If the supply is not restricted I would not be surprised

[fierce vine]

RAH DID YOU SLEEP

[raw canyon]

That's all I needed to hear I'm in

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/bitconnect-carlos-matos-bcc-crypto-gif-13235131

[lofty knoll]

3 hours

Again

hahahahahah

[torn patio]

Over 33% of the sale is over, only 10% of tokens sold.

[raw canyon]

Guys if you don't sleep 8 hours

You make bad trades

Trust

[lofty knoll]

Lol did you buy at 140

I didnt

[raw canyon]

I'm still waiting to buy

[fierce vine]

good. good. lol. Tonight I should make itpast 1 AM with you since I napped last night. I kept checking the price on the hour

[foggy arch]

44 hours without sleeping, bought at $59 and $54, doing good

[lofty knoll]

We need LR to fucking happen

[fierce vine]

I know

[formal oar]

I just set alarms on coingecko

[fair moat]

LR?

[fierce vine]

How am I supposed to stay up and yell at things without something to play

[fierce vine]

Lost relics

[fair moat]

Oh right lost relics yeah

[formal oar]

LR being down has killed my evenings lol

[raw canyon]

I see ILV listen on MXC with USDT trading pair

Anyone buy from there?

[fair moat]

if it was ready he would probs open it in 8 hours

[quick spindle]

😆

[noble glen]

whats the best token to buy this with eth ? do you still get the nft if you use usdc

[fierce vine]

Only buy from balancer

[fair moat]

But I think he still has work to do

[brisk pagoda]

ok here's my best explanation. There are a set number of tokens designated as 'staking rewards' a percentage is allocated for "staking" and a percentage for "yield-farming". For "staking" all you need is ILV. There will be a place tbd where you can essentially insert your ILV tokens and a portion of that percentage set aside for "staking" will be given to you weekly. This is the portion that most tokens do not do. Anything with a liquidity pool can typically be used for this next part. For "yield-farming" you will need ILV and ETH in equal amounts. You'll do the same thing where you put your tokens in and rewards designated for "yield-farming", that % set aside previously, are distributed weekly. "yield-farming" has a higher ILV reward percentage because there's more risk involved.

[hollow drum]

Im assuming ILV is held in your meta mask once its swapped correct?

[lofty knoll]

WE WAIT

SO much weight left

TRUST

[pale gust]

what is good entry price

[idle terrace]

So If I buy 5k of ILV I will also need 5k of ETH to yield farm?

[restive iron]

rahlord, can the token price go down with the bot still arb'ing? no one seems to know, glad you are here

[lofty knoll]

Yes.

[fierce vine]

The bot can slow it down with enough volume but can't stop it

Unless they had like 100m

[lofty knoll]

It did since 70

We good

[brisk pagoda]

yep. for smaller holders it's recommended that you simply do the staking route.

[restive iron]

thank you!

[lofty knoll]

Yes

[idle terrace]

Why is yield farming higher risk?

[lofty knoll]

Scam and you dont get NFTs

be warned

[lofty knoll]

Impermanent lost

https://tenor.com/view/piano-bruce-almighty-keyboard-keyboard-warrior-fast-typing-gif-3416345

[brisk pagoda]

I'd recommend looking up how liquidity pools and impermanent loss work. It's kinda higher level concept

[idle terrace]

Will do thank you.

[lofty knoll]

I got caffeine in the blood

[foggy arch]

nah, it isn't. Few uniswap videos about LP will be enough for your understanding

[quick spindle]

LOL was just about to send this gif and @ you and Ami

[noble glen]

why did you say its a scam to get nft

[idle terrace]

Last question in regards to locking ILV, Will that yield more when staking or when yield farming or both?

[noble glen]

if you spend eth to buy ilv you suppoed to get points for a nft right or wrong ?

[hollow drum]

do you know if once the staking period is over you will be able to pull out ILV as anything other than ETH? Just trying to figure out the level of risk associated with exchange risk if ETH goes up alot in Value and ILV stays stable.

[brisk pagoda]

fair enough lol I just don't think I can do it better than other sites

[fierce vine]

It's not a scam to get NFT he was referring to an exchange that has ILV listed with low volume. It's a scam and only buy from the balancer. If you do not buy from balancer you will not get NFT points

I'm not going to link the comment because I don't want to confuse people. ONLY USE BALANCER

[noble glen]

yeh ok

and you need to use eth ?

not usdc?

[brisk pagoda]

locking will give you more in both afaik

[fierce vine]

you can use stablecoin but the fee is hgiher. It's an eth pair so eth has the lowest fee.

[hollow drum]

Thanks

[pale gust]

think it will drop more than $57?

[ripe knot]

seed price 1dollar am i correct?

[hollow drum]

So only Yield farming has potential for Impermanent loss?

[quick spindle]

What a time to be alive... 🍍 Just imagine how much more relaxed we'll all feel after the BLBP Is done with too

[fierce vine]

~3

[pale gust]

will it drop to $10?

[fierce vine]

Let me check my future self and get back to you.

I'll respond in 2 days

[lofty knoll]

No liquidity and CEX

[ripe knot]

hefty tokenomics

[pale gust]

is there a dextools to see the chart?

[half elm]

so seed price was 3$ and they sell it for us at 50$ lool so greedy

[idle terrace]

You guys have taught me a shit ton in the last few weeks. I know I’m a pain the ass but I appreciate it!

[foggy arch]

no way

[noble glen]

sorry does anyone know what exact timethe lbp ends in uk time

[fierce vine]

I recommend reading up on how balancers work and the point of why they chose a balancer.

[ripe knot]

ye the tokenomics dont work for me. I like the project. But in the long run will be too much sell pressure. 50% of total supply is team or sead/pre-seed who are all printing money at 50dollar

[fierce vine]

The people profiting from the sale literally told you,DO NOT APE IN. and the apes assembled anyway.

[idle terrace]

Apes gonna ape.

[gloomy ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-not-how-it-works-gif-10492850

[brisk pagoda]

yes staking is not exposed to impermanent loss

[fierce vine]

Also the seed investors are locked for 12 months so they can't even sell off to the $50 crowd.

[hollow drum]

Ok interesting

[pale gust]

what price did it open at?

[fierce vine]

unfortunately $50.

[lofty knoll]

Brb getting energy drinks

[fierce vine]

check your pulse on the hour

[lofty knoll]

Yea

[ripe knot]

Yes but we are long term investors, how can we expect a good performance when 50% of the supply is printing dolla dolla bills in 1 year at our buy price?

[pale gust]

what is pulse? like dextools to see chart?

[hollow drum]

Who said 50$ is my buy price

[keen slate]

Axie is not at 25k DAU lol

[fierce vine]

Lol joke because he's been sleeping 3 hours and downing energy drinks. Literally heart beat

[keen slate]

https://www.axieworld.com/en/economics/charts

[sage falcon]

are you guys awake 24/7? 😄

[ripe knot]

we are investing in a risky new start up but pay a massive premium

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-this-is-the-way-mandalorian-star-wars-gif-18467370

[humble mesa]

how long till the end of balancer?

[restive iron]

i was wrong, its 30k but dont discuss here, go to off topic if you want to discuss that

[pale gust]

this is ERC20 compatible correct so I can hold on metamask?

[fierce vine]

I think one thing you're doing is considering the price only and not the opportunity for profit. It's profit sharing with what the in game profit is.

[foggy arch]

Same here

[lofty knoll]

Lmao this is the safest project I have seen in the space in like 4 years..... no wonders I go 100%

They didnt get the revelation yet

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blown-gif-11131691

[ripe knot]

how is this safest? Its a niche NFT project, we are in a massive NFT bubble, probably most of the NFT projects will go bust.

[fierce vine]

Lol niche NFT project

[foggy arch]

Delphi Digital is enough.

[ripe knot]

This one looks very promising but still its risky

[fierce vine]

What other BC games have you checked out?

[lofty knoll]

Collecting psychology is more than niche hahah

[sage falcon]

out of interest what partnership are you referring to?

[fierce vine]

there's BC games out there using free assets and youtube tutorials making hundreds of thousands of $ per year with less than 1k active players. ILV is a project from competent people in a studio with seed money, partnerships, established devs

[ripe knot]

i see this place is not really an open discussion place. When someone points out that 50% of the total supply is printing money. The whole gang puts on their armor.

[restive iron]

in my opinion there about 4 - 5 good NFT games worth investing in, including ILV. but actually any NFT game being successful will likely draw more users to the space, so will be good for all of them

we want to grow the pie

[ripe knot]

I just dont think you guys put a fair opening price. This is end of 2017 bullrun valuations right here.

[fierce vine]

You're just not bringing up good points. I mean yuo don't even understand balancers and you're trying to argue lol

[ripe knot]

fair enough

[lofty knoll]

This is why the tokenomics are good

You didnt catch on the revenue distribution yet

[ripe knot]

here u go

4 sharks

i wish you guys the best. I dont see a very friendly community here.

cya

[fierce vine]

lata blood

[lofty knoll]

After the IDO i'll take the time it takes to show you why we say that

[reef nexus]

byeeeeeee

[lofty knoll]

Lol its like the most friendly community of all

[raven idol]

is there a time for preilv be converted? after this sale?

[fierce vine]

I don't mind people disagreeing with ILV and thinking they wont succeedbut if you open an argument you should at least understand the launch process and probably not admit to your ignorance but still argue lol

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-unimpressed-meh-really-seriously-gif-16279809

[sturdy frigate]

Wen $6 ILV?

[lofty knoll]

Soon ™️

[fierce vine]

don't know exact time so maybe someone else can tell you but it will be after the sale

[lofty knoll]

When the audit is done

[brisk pagoda]

using ape as a verb for anything XD

[hybrid finch]

@sage falcon do you have new bot address, he moved i think

[gloomy ibex]

whale trying to move price?

[fierce vine]

I dont think that's him unless he's using another wallet to pump price but he's been trying to hide his movements so idk why he'd show this one.

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-get-out-kick-out-booted-bye-felicia-gif-13565963

[fierce vine]

for sure. At least if you're going to admit ignorance go read up on what you don't know and if you still disagree bring up good points as to why you disagree. Shit you might bring up something the team didn't think about and can provide constructive criticism.

[whole mist]

So if you buy and hold ILV after this sale event, do you still qualify for the cut of revenue if you stake it? The benefit of buying in this sale is just the NFTs?

[lofty knoll]

Yea like this dude that bought because of the 3M market cap

He then did his research and now he is part of the community

[fair moat]

NFT shop will be before you can stake

[idle terrace]

Yes

[zealous adder]

coinmarketcap showing total supply of 7 million? I thought its 1 million?

[idle terrace]

Whoops

[idle terrace]

Yes

[brisk pagoda]

ikr they were like "yes I make bad points but I'm still right" lmao some folks

[idle terrace]

I die on my hills bro.

[brisk pagoda]

are you a (insert political party affiliation here)?

[pale gust]

looks like we may not see any lower than $55 😫

[sage falcon]

yeah never again in this life for sure..

[timber ore]

@blissful bay he made a good point. 50% of tokens are only locked 1-2 years with a slow release to sell for seeders. Basically seeders can dump for massive profit in only 1-2 years at the price most people bought in for.

[pale gust]

i just don't have the money to buy in that high as much as I was hoping to get in big on this one

[foggy arch]

https://pools.balancer.exchange/#/pool/0xd0DD7451D58318d8d528B83a8F45b0a22b7EAcD1/swaps

[wooden isle]

patience young padawan...clear not the future is

[foggy arch]

@vague raven

[sage falcon]

out of interest what are the other ones i can only name 1-2 other than ILV

[fierce vine]

https://tenor.com/view/baboon-graph-gif-4657312

[foggy arch]

https://tenor.com/view/max-sinclair-eco-companion-funny-you-suck-gif-14177314

[celest fractal]

So what's the price of ilv now I slept after I hear the price was 140 lmao

[fierce vine]

I mean, to support that you're saying the price will be ~$50 in 1-2 years? that's assuming the group stays stagnant. What's your price point ifILV is successful?

[idle terrace]

It will be need massive growth to keep up with the dilution in year 2 IMO.

[sage falcon]

where could i find charts for ILV?

thank you

[fierce vine]

Well, for the calculatiosn you'll also have to consider how much ILV is burned as we go and people redeem for sILV. Maybe if you're looking at just the coin as a coin but if the game is successful don't you think people will value it higher since it also includes receiving profits from in game purchases?

[grave swift]

Are those below 10 ETH just emotes or emote NFTs?

[fierce vine]

emote NFTs

[grave swift]

had to double check lol

[vague raven]

There is no reason for the incompetent remark. Do your research on the team before speaking like that. education yourself help us all To-Rocket

[grave swift]

ty

[foggy gale]

I bought at 85, will buy more when the price further drops, to lower my average cost

[plain delta]

Steady on with the incompetence talk. We’ve found a number of issues with the balancer pool that have now been fixed and have allowed us to keep everything going smoothly.

[cerulean pier]

when do the packs get released to your wallet

[vagrant valve]

packs?

[tribal abyss]

Yo if I LP do I have to lock up my LP for 12 months or is just the yield locked up?

[last bolt]

Thank you @blissful bay and to the team for working hard. You guys did a fantastic job! This is just a beginning of Illuvium.

[idle terrace]

I appreciate their hard work but it’s not like they’re doing charity work lol. They trying to get rich like everyone else

[loud pagoda]

thank you for helping this community @blissful bay

[pale gust]

between balancer and uniswap how long does it usually take for a coin to allow all the early holders dump? 12 hours?

[steady walrus]

people are staking millions of dollars on this project and they demand to see a live chart , the nerve some people have

not enough. it should have been there from min 1 like any other ido out there

[timber ore]

anything being done to the bot thats managing to buy and sell the same amount and net gaining ILV each time?

[wooden oxide]

@blissful bay will there be any future in game bonuses or NFT drops for ILV holders(in certain thresholds)?

[plain delta]

Just yield. Unless you are a seed investor. Then you need to lock it up.

[steady walrus]

tidal was in bal as well but they prepared a live chart

[frank condor]

Wwhen wwil this be platable?

[idle terrace]

Tidal’s sales page was super clean.

[plain delta]

They used a stable coin. The chart is automatic. It doesn’t exist for ETH pairings.

We are sorry you didn’t have a chart at the start. We got up a custom solution as soon as possible.

[fierce vine]

oh lawd I hope so.

[severe igloo]

Please, Tidal messed up their whole LBP by not communicating correctly. INstead of 70:30 their weights were actually 30:70 causing them to be forced to burn 50% of not sold tokens

[red crater]

there really is no reason to apologise @plain delta , you guys did nothing wrong in my point of view

[timber ore]

how can this bot be buying and selling for past 24 hours the same amount but gaining ILV each time lmao

[red crater]

the fact that these guys bought at 100$+ levels is completely their own fault

do some research first before you invest a decent sum of your portfolio

[idle terrace]

I didn’t say their sale itself was clean. I’m talking about their sales webpage.

[severe igloo]

If you messed up this LBP look in the mirror to find the culprit. No manner of data would've saved you from that, regardless of the interactivity.

[severe igloo]

Yea but comeon, a live chart is not necessary. TA does not work for an LBP

[lofty knoll]

The nerve on this guy

[sage falcon]

I completely agree — the details were clearly laid out in the medium post — if you bought blindly...you’re NGMI

[lofty knoll]

You need a chart to buy this token?

[idle terrace]

I personally just think charts are fun to look at. 🤷‍♂️

[fierce vine]

what.... and you're telling me you read books that don't have pictures in them? K w.e

[lofty knoll]

Around september 2021

[severe igloo]

fun to look at and being a necessity are COMPLETELY different things

[lofty knoll]

Chart is in my head tbh

[ionic sonnet]

Is sept 2021 a beta release date or the full game?

[brisk pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/books-the-book-read-belle-gaston-gif-7494310

[lofty knoll]

It's movement is pretty easy to interpret lol

[idle terrace]

I mean I’m not the guy complaining lol.

[fierce vine]

planned full release. Maybe beta around June

[lofty knoll]

Full game release

[idle terrace]

A chart is nice if you can’t stay up 72 hours straight. So u can catch up on what happened.

But no not a necessity

[severe igloo]

But you don't need to. Pick the price you wanna pay and all you need is that big number up top telling you you are there... or not lol

[steady walrus]

there is so much competition in this medium, if you dont do the best you can for your customers with those simple things they will just skip

its not like this is the only project out there lol

[severe igloo]

I actually dare you to name 5 projects with equal or more information provided

[formal oar]

Then... Why are you still here?

[plain delta]

Of course we messed up. It was a combination of factors that lead to the issue but as always, the buck stops with us. We got up the charts as fast as we could after that and now it is fine.

We hope everyone enjoys the bonus NFTs though. Although I think some people are still angry the price is sitting where it is.

I wonder how different it would be if we were at this price and started at 100? Maybe people would see it as a 50% discount.

[plain delta]

Public Beta. Where everyone will get to spend their own money and earn real money. The private beta will be fake money and everything wiped.

[ionic sonnet]

They shouldn’t see it as a 50% discount.. the starting price in Dutch auctions are irrelevant

[ionic sonnet]

Awesome! Can’t wait

[plain delta]

I promise you I’m trying to do the best for our customers. I once stayed up 40 hours straight to help people with an air drop.

We didn’t have the chart. That’s on us. But it wasn’t because we don’t care about our community.

[steady walrus]

I know and i wasnt trying to bash the project, i think you did a great job just saying for future good of the project

[brisk pagoda]

not irrelevant for bots though, that's their discount

[plain delta]

There are so many things that people shouldn’t see stuff as. But that never stopped them before.

[karmic lichen]

I just want to acknowledge what an awesome job the team has done.

[pale moss]

What do you mean by this?

Yes but what do you mean the MM’s pump and dump? What do they do?

[reef nexus]

@steady walrus full disclosure - i literally know nothing and get crypto scammed right and left LOL. However i can assure you one thing...i was told by everyone in here, in one way or another, exactly what to do/not to do with this balancer sale. Charts or no charts, it was made perfectly clear what to expect

[plain delta]

Unfortunately we are going to make more mistakes in the future. But we will own them and do everything to fix them.

And in between those mistakes hopefully we do some pretty neat things too.

[karmic lichen]

@reef nexus exactly

[brisk pagoda]

TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ ༼ つ ◕◕ ༽つ

[karmic lichen]

Im still waiting to buy in

[plain delta]

God damnit guys. Don’t give me energy. I’m trying to sleep.

[steady walrus]

That's true i did read the posts the teams tried to defend the buyers, still a chart would have been helpful, denying the things that went wrong is useless

[severe igloo]

You will never be able to satisfy everyone. Just do your best and focus on quality. If the game is good, nobody is going to remember anything they didn't like

[brisk pagoda]

rekt again 😢

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/right-now-mad-angry-guardians-of-the-galaxy-chris-pratt-gif-15301397

[severe igloo]

I am still waiting on those 5 projects you were gonna list that are better my guy. Stop about the chart already.

[restive iron]

personally i don't care about a chart at all. all i care is that there seems to be some bad actor that was able to frontrun us all and is now able to arb the balancer pool by using a smart contract to simultaneously buy and sell. it seems to be interfering with balancer's proper operation

[steady walrus]

that are bigger or better?

because this project is tiny

[karmic lichen]

better

[steady walrus]

Casper,Mina ,Cardano, Shoping

you want more?

[severe igloo]

better and specifically in the detailed information provided and the quality of the information provided. It is easy to shit on a project

[sinful edge]

what is the price at right now... Hope everyone is having a great day btw

[ionic sonnet]

Yes, but somebody who truly understands a Dutch auction would know. I think the concept is fairly new to a lot of investors and frankly many do not do their due diligence before jumping in.

I’m wishing you and the team the best and hope I find a price where I can support the project myself.

[steady walrus]

Super farm, Flow, Enj

Matic

maybe more??

[severe igloo]

Sorry, Casper was not clear at all. Shopping is aight, didn't use an LBP I think. Cardanao has been promising gold cocainedust for years and still nothing

It is not about the size

[karmic lichen]

lol ada is vaporware

been years

[sage falcon]

55 $

[karmic lichen]

they just trying to hop on top of the bull train

[plain delta]

Someone buying in and out doesn’t change weights. There are still enough buyers that it keeps the price steady-ish. The weights are soon going to drop a bit faster and things will get very interesting. There’s going to be a 10 hour window soon that could be wild.

[strong terrace]

58

[severe igloo]

Enjin, I did not dive into so I can't say,neither Matic. But I was asking about quality information, not size

[steady walrus]

But isnt project size and sucsess say how good it is? since we are buyers

[tribal abyss]

Thanks brother

[severe igloo]

that is like saying a big dick tells you the quality of the sex. It does not

[steady walrus]

Tell that to the people who did 25x on shoping in a month

[karmic lichen]

so you are just after a PnD then?

[restive iron]

I do look forward to the opportunity to buy. The issue is not someone buying though. It appears that this individual is able to arb balancer for example, look at this transaction: he is seemingly taking advantage of Balancer to create ~100 ILV tokens risk free:

[steady walrus]

I'm an investor

I invest

[brisk pagoda]

anyone know what this 10 hour window is? first I'm hearing about it

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-matthew-mc-conaughey-wolf-of-wall-street-gif-6096185

[severe igloo]

Shopping also started with a different type of money behind them. Their information supply is not amazing to be fair, but they are also in a COMPLETELY different ball game. So judge them by similar coins bro

[lofty knoll]

Well this is not your 250x play if it is what you are after..

[fair moat]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-im-not-brave-enough-for-politics-talk-politics-not-brave-gif-19473033

[restive iron]

He appears to be using a smart contract to simulatenously buy & sell

[severe igloo]

Should've tried to get a baby dragon indeed

[lofty knoll]

And poke, and hide

[plain delta]

It’s not an actual thing. Just my personal opinion.

[reef nexus]

full disclosure #2... i have a guiness record worthy tiny pecker, and get scammed on enlargment pills right and left. However, even I am married.

[severe igloo]

not the size of the boat, but the motion of the ocean

[restive iron]

I am still going to buy, but it just hurts us all when someone is getting tokens for free when we have to pay for them.

[brisk pagoda]

got it thanks for staying up for us 🙏 hope you can get some rest

[past marsh]

i wonder how many people are price anchoring the the $50 start price and thinking $55 is not so bad

[barren scaffold]

Everything's decentralised right. And this person's got a super crafty bot to gain a slight advantage in the balancer pool. It sucks when people are able to get an advantage but it's not something to get super upset about imo

[fierce vine]

yeah Idc he's making money. With the weights going down his impact should go down as well. i'm not buying enough where he's taking coins from me

If anything people need to stop aping 😄

[karmic lichen]

it boils down to having a extremely fast connection + bots

[vague raven]

do u sleep lol

[round schooner]

can someone give that link that shows the balancer actual price

[quick spindle]

This. The bot isn't the only one buying.. Plenty of others buying as well which is keeping pressure applied and holding the price higher

[sage falcon]

He or she is making very little with gas costs I would say.

[restive iron]

I would say its a lot more than slight considering there are only 10 million total possible tokens. Again, I am still going to buy, but I think just ignoring this issue makes no sense. I think it is worth making sure a similar situation doesn't occur in the future. Just ignoring it seems silly

[weary spruce]

I haven't invested in this yet, but I have to be honest, I think Illuvium is gonna kill it if they deliver on the experience. With that being said, I will look to get in a lot lower on balancer. To me around the 20-25 area seems fair at the moment

[severe igloo]

Well, the apes will be the judge of that thank you very much

[karmic lichen]

@sage falcon quiet the opposite. somone made out with 200 eth i beleive yesterday flipping Ilv

[restive iron]

Very wrong

[karmic lichen]

if you are working with like 1k, not even worth it

these ppl are working with 50k or even 100k +

50 gas isnt anything for them

[fierce vine]

there's 1m in this pool but nothing you can do at this point. for futurelaunches the fix would be to not allow sell back.

[sage falcon]

Started at 32 ETH initially and now up to 51 ETH after probably 50+ transactions

[sage falcon]

That person absolutely did

[restive iron]

Yeah agreed, just stating that we shouldn't sweep this under the rug, and should fix for the next one.

[weary spruce]

yeah, apparently a couple baffoons bought over 100.

[karmic lichen]

this happens, in ALL markets

even traditional

[pale gust]

unfortunately exactly why i'm out even though I was extremely excited for this project

[weary spruce]

you cant make it up. and on balancer no less lol

[fierce vine]

well this will be the only ILV launch so it'll be on future balancer releases.

[karmic lichen]

bots with a few ms advantage make it out on top

[plain delta]

Indeed I do. But I hate it. It feels like a massive waste of time.

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-izzy-mandelbaum-grab-your-jock-its-go-time-gif-16281609

[scarlet glacier]

So uh

What’s the current price

[vague raven]

tru lol why we are still up lol

[sage falcon]

i am ready)))

[woeful palm]

Hi how to play illuvium?

[karmic lichen]

@woeful palm game not out yet

[scarlet glacier]

No

[severe igloo]

uuuugh it went back up a little?

who of you is buying ey? STOP BUYING

[plain shale]

Where do you guys check the price?

[karmic lichen]

@plain shale check in announcments

[sage falcon]

are you ready for Degen NFT drop anouncment ???

[karmic lichen]

there is a link to the pool

[sturdy frigate]

wait until Q3

[woeful palm]

When is Q3 expected

[plain shale]

Lol I'm blind, I just looked at announcements before, thanks guys

[sturdy frigate]

use google

[red geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/chadwick-boseman-black-panther-rub-hands-gif-11465694

[woeful palm]

So when is sale ?

Where sir?

Please guide me

[sage falcon]

whats curent price

[fierce vine]

#💬〕general message

[red geyser]

Looks like you should post in off topic

[opal pike]

guys how many of those NFT exist? as many as people take and then its over or are there a max supply of them like 10k of mr KFC chicken for example?

[red geyser]

you'll might get bot banned if you don't

[main leaf]

lololoool

[woeful palm]

I want to buy Illicium nft

[fierce vine]

as many as people request of the NFT

[red geyser]

cannot be done

[sage falcon]

admin why delete?

[fierce vine]

0 people request there will be 0

[opal pike]

Thanks for answer!

[fierce vine]

ye GL

[red geyser]

put it in off topic

[sage falcon]

ok lets go to oftopic

[main leaf]

i'm there dude it looked hilarious

[spark siren]

Read

[sturdy frigate]

read #📣〕announcements dyor

[sage falcon]

cant find off topic chanel

[timber ore]

exactly what ive been asking about

@blissful bay im not talking about moving the weights, im talking about this guy generating free ILV nonstop for 24 hours

[sage falcon]

Degen NFT anouncment already at the offtopic channel

[sturdy frigate]

Stop buying people! We all benefit from lower prices

[foggy glacier]

lol

[ionic sonnet]

They are going to have to continue to prop since weights are still ~80/20

[opal pike]

Do the remaining ILV's go onto the exchange for trading?

[ionic sonnet]

If there are remaining tokens, I think there will be a discussion between the council on what to do with them. But the discussion likely won’t take place until closer to the end of the sale

[red geyser]

It sounds like there will likely be some sort of liquidity added to sushiswap

but not how much

[opal pike]

ahhh i see

[open pewter]

do anyone know if its better to but with ETH or with other ERC20?

I noticed the balancer pool is ILV-wETH

[opal pike]

and guys any other coins that were started with this bootstrap pool way? new to this and i will get in for my NFT but still 😄

[red geyser]

eth will give you lowest gas fees (unless you already have wETH)

even then it'll be very similar. Everything else would take 2 swaps and double your gas

so its better with ETH

[open pewter]

I have the crypto in binance.. I am in tether.. need to buy eth and move to metamask

Any range for the estimated fees for a trade?

[timber ore]

ill wait 7-10 more hours before considering buying, wait for low gas fees

[open pewter]

80-100 USD per transaction?

[scarlet glacier]

wait why does it say we have a $5 million market cap

lol

is that accurate?

[open pewter]

is not fully dilluted

[scarlet glacier]

not in the slightestr

[open pewter]

In finance you have market cap and fully dilluted market cap

[summer trellis]

the sale End with 50% 50%?

[scarlet glacier]

I'm new to uh, anything not BTC, how do I determine when gas is cheap?

or well, cheaper

[open pewter]

gasnow

website

[sage falcon]

is anyone here who buy near this price too?
https://opensea.io/assets/0x495f947276749ce646f68ac8c248420045cb7b5e/5024781677735139848903764063686676424868477676723949927307734518508308922369

[scarlet glacier]

Isn't that just balancer doing balancing?

lol

[west notch]

hahahaha

[slim sonnet]

But there’s only 930k tokens left! This will probably be the most valuable token in the world because there’ll only be 80k circulating supply. 😁

[idle terrace]

Gas is only ~$10 right now?

[strange birch]

https://ethereumprice.org/gas/

[strange birch]

more like 10000000000000 right now. its the worst its ever been

etherscan.io works and click the gas price icon to see more detail

[fierce vine]

what... nothing happened....

[idle terrace]

Oh I just went to the gasnow site and it was saying around $10 but maybe I interpreted it wrong.

[pale gust]

gas fee is $180 right now

[idle terrace]

My wife is Romanian and “(insert food) is better in Romania” is said with every meal.

[fair moat]

McDonalds in Romania is so much better

[idle terrace]

Dude it is. Lmao

[west notch]

my parents are romanian (hungarian ethnicity)

[spare river]

Yes it is. That’s why we all have heart disease, Alzheimer’s, and diabetes

[violet moat]

How are we still at 83/17 omg.

[idle terrace]

Don’t forget cancer.

[sudden dawn]

Yeah its cuz in America the food seems to be made of 50% sugar, 49% salt and some 'food' stuffz 😄

[spare river]

Oh shit yeah cancer too

[timber ore]

@spare river well its partially cause most of my fellow americans are lazy as shit, eat a crap ton, dont exercise or work out

[spare river]

Come visit my organic farm in Oregon I’ll cook you all some good food

[sudden dawn]

I always get sick a few days when im there.. just so my body needs to get used to the new sugar and salt contents 😛

[fierce vine]

Since I started eating haelthy its insane how much crap is in everything. You don't notice until you read the labels.

[sudden dawn]

hahaha yeah pretty much 😄

honestly miss it sometimes tho.. burgers can be so amazing sometiems

haha i know 😛

sometimes u just want to be fooled

[restive cedar]

When are we expecting 60/40

??

[sudden dawn]

9 months

[slim sonnet]

But it’s fat free! The food here is such absolute garbage. we just started grow our own.

[gloomy ibex]

before 50/50

[sudden dawn]

sorry im the Artist i know 0 about the sale

[restive cedar]

Smart😂

[sudden dawn]

Thats always good tho!! Making ur own food is always good 😄 so u know what ur putting into it 😉

[gloomy ibex]

That's as best i can give you

[sudden dawn]

lol hopefully sometimes in the next 6 months?

[sage falcon]

when is the release ?

[winged ember]

What time does the sale end on april 1st?

Can't find nothing on it

[sudden dawn]

haha ill make it epic

[gloomy ibex]

There about 330 ETH sitting there in the pool from a whale, not sure if actual or they are working on something.

[brisk pagoda]

it worked for pokemon XD

[outer pumice]

what are current gas fees to get ILV atm?

[formal oar]

@sudden dawn corgi illuvial wen?

[sudden dawn]

I just did one for the Scoot promo

😄

thats not an illuvial tho

[formal oar]

need moar

[sudden dawn]

its a corgi riding an illuvial 😂

[outer pumice]

@blissful bay thanks

lol

[formal oar]

I want that Scoot NFT ❤️

[outer pumice]

That's not the gas fee lol

[sudden dawn]

but yeh, i dunno .. theres a lot more coming - i cant spoil too much aye

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/jonah-hill-yay-african-child-screaming-shouting-gif-7212866

Corgi for life

[sudden dawn]

i thought it was CATS here

[lofty knoll]

Naaaah

there are useless and stink

[formal oar]

except me and @lofty knoll

[outer pumice]

nm

its in sane right now lol

guess mxc it is

if i'm going to get some

but they charging 0.4 ilv withdraw fee

lol

just insane

i'm just trying to pick some up for the long run

[lofty knoll]

No NFT for you then

Good luck with your rug pull

[outer pumice]

what are you talking about bro? lol

[lofty knoll]

We do not support MXC

[karmic lichen]

lol

[outer pumice]

then say that

[lofty knoll]

No NFT for people buying there

[outer pumice]

then get coin gecko to correct the listing

[lofty knoll]

I asked.

[outer pumice]

ok

yea i went there; the fees crazy high right now

like over 90 dollars

[fair moat]

Thats gas, its like that everywhere

[outer pumice]

yea i'm going to have to

probably try again in like 6-8 hours

[lofty knoll]

yep

we wait for 20 anyway

[severe breach]

And another 20 to come

[opal pike]

guys do i nee to add the token pre purchase on metamask to see it or willl it appear by itself once i bought?

[torn patio]

Do you think people that bought already are buying small increments of ILV to keep ILV price up? Would be a good strat, until you ran out of money

brings up a question, how high does the price tick up per purchase? is it a bigger tick up the bigger the purchase?

[severe breach]

Why would you do that with 0.1 Eth?

And 1 eth in total?

😂

[outer pumice]

20 dollars?

[round schooner]

if starting weights 96/4 and end weights 50/50 doesn't that mean that per 24 hours weights will increase by 15.3?
it only increased 12.5 so far and its been more than 24h, currently 83.5/16.5

and does that mean that price will drop faster if they want to meet the 50/50 in 72 hours total?

[outer pumice]

i dont' really know how balancer works

[torn patio]

I think that is the case. Aaron said he is expecting some larger movement in the next 10 hours.

[hollow drum]

Is there a minimum amount of ILV needed to get a founders badge?

[slim sonnet]

I’m pretty sure it’s time and the weights. So closer to the end time the faster it tries to meet that 50/50

[gloomy ibex]

Any amount to get bronze badge

[opal pike]

anyone get the token address for ILV?

[lofty knoll]

0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e

[lofty knoll]

Any amount more than 0.00000001 ILV

[hollow drum]

Ok sweet, I figured that, I just wanted to confirm.

[opal pike]

thank oyu!

[stoic bear]

p illuvium

[autumn compass]

How does it have a listing during sale?

[lofty knoll]

Cause they buy it from the Balancer (speaking about MCX)

And list it

[autumn compass]

So no uniswap listing

[lofty knoll]

No only Balancer

Is legit

[pale gust]

price only going up...does this feel manipulated to anyone else? I have a little over $1,000 to buy in but this just doesnt seem like its worth it at $57

[restive cedar]

yes it seems extremely overpriced

[lofty knoll]

We wait and big brains wait

See how much tokens are left

[pale gust]

oh i though tit came out today

[vague raven]

It's all about what you think the value is to you. look at what ur investing in before you invest.

[upper geyser]

I think I might be waiting all the way until after it's over at this point

[autumn compass]

It is still 50x the presale I think

[restive cedar]

presale at 3.33

17x

[lofty knoll]

Presale 1$

[chrome topaz]

nah it was .30 cents bro

[autumn compass]

5-10x should be a good buy

[pale gust]

i would be happy to buy at $5-10 but $57 is just absurd

[restive cedar]

5-10 is not realistic

[autumn compass]

What?

[chrome topaz]

LOL

[pale gust]

because I don't have 300 eth laying around like most of you lmfao

[chrome topaz]

guys im trolling

[vague raven]

300eth where

[autumn compass]

That will never happen

[vague raven]

im investing even if i had 1eth to my name

[chrome topaz]

its not our fault people are buying

[upper geyser]

He wants all the nfts, duh

[chrome topaz]

at 57 dollars keeping the price up

[vague raven]

the project is a diamond

[autumn compass]

0.2 Eth gives any nft?

[gloomy ibex]

https://illuvium.medium.com/19-how-to-claim-the-balancer-bonus-nfts-5c28dd72ae14

[fair moat]

Why did you redact "moba" lol

You know about Pokemon: Unite?

[chrome topaz]

pokemon mobas coming out

[fair moat]

Mobile only unfortunately. But yeah, its Pokemons Moba

[sage falcon]

how can I buy Ill? Do you think it will 100x?

[vague raven]

unless the play to earn is always in meintence then we just sit here .......(Lost Relics)

[lapis ingot]

Once this game roll out, player can earn Eth by playing the game?

This game can only be okay on a computer or if wmobile version is available ?

[vague raven]

i have like 2 axie lol cuz idk wtf i was doing

just bought tried to figure it out n moved on lol

so HIGH

[severe breach]

Lol...i hope you don't do investments like that all the time😄

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/millie-bobby-brown-mind-blown-boom-amazed-wow-gif-11209102

[vague raven]

Everyday

[severe breach]

Haha

[azure plinth]

Just stumbled onto this Illuvium and I must say I'm mind blown by this project, as a long time gamer I'm very happy.

Web developer here and man this just fits perfectly into my visions

[hollow drum]

Welcome

[fierce vine]

yo

[azure plinth]

🙂

[plain shale]

Same, I just stumbled upon it today, and am mind blown

[fierce vine]

If you guys/girls have questions I'm happy to give you half assed answers but welcome

[karmic lichen]

Welcome!

[plain shale]

Thanks!

I really want to get in on this Balancer, but According to what I read at Medium it is supposed to have a high starting price (50 dollars) and then will drop due to the balancing, and spike back up with some intervals. So how in the world have the price increased to 56 dollars?

So I am holding back right now due to not understanding why lol

145? jeez

[dense crater]

when is sale ending?

[torn patio]

balancer site down? no transactions since 3:03?

[dense crater]

ty

[azure plinth]

should I use 1inch to swap?

[dense crater]

balancer only ser

[azure plinth]

link?

[lofty knoll]

That's good

Means apes stopped

[torn patio]

site might be down

it hasnt had that long of a dry spell since it started

[somber edge]

Only here: https://swap.illuvium.io/

It's Balancer with Illuvium skin

[dense crater]

dyor? is that hard?

[lofty knoll]

I'll check

[somber edge]

Only swap here: https://swap.illuvium.io/
It's balancer with a Illuvium skin

[azure plinth]

kek

[idle terrace]

If nothing else this ethereum investment has been treating me rly well lol

[karmic lichen]

i like eth

[tired hazel]

Type weaknesses won't be part of the game

[lofty knoll]

Poooump

[tired hazel]

These apes really going to make me sit in front of the computer for 3 days 🤣

[young dove]

how much time is left on the LBP? couldn't find that in announcements

its like 44 hours left?

[sage falcon]

at what price was the pool calculated for eth? Cause its eth ilv if the price of eth decreases/increases it has an impact on the ilv price and the curve or not?

[hollow drum]

If the tokens do not sell out, will the price tank when it goes onto Sushi?

[chrome topaz]

why would that happen

less circulating

[hollow drum]

Not sure, just asking

Like it might not right away but if a Whale pumps it, it could get merked.

[young dove]

ty

[formal oar]

I want to be that dog rn.

[lofty knoll]

I like calm

[chrome topaz]

Click one if your waiting click burning bag if you have bought

[lethal crest]

guys we still hangin out above 50? chill on those buys

[lofty knoll]

ikr..

[lethal crest]

just feedin the bots that bought at 50 still i guess

[floral oriole]

Hello!

[gloomy ibex]

There be whales sitting waiting for you to bite, be warned

[lethal crest]

https://tenor.com/view/orca-killer-whale-hunting-seal-ocean-gif-16341785

orcas dont mess around

[scarlet surge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/OceanaOrg-breach-humpback-whale-JpjcgnfLTyUVvKO1vm

[barren scaffold]

Still only ~25ish wallets with over 1k

[lean swallow]

could be an ape flying here

[last bolt]

Do you guys think it will reach 50:50?

[gloomy ibex]

it has to....

that's how it works

[barren scaffold]

won't sell out before, no

[last bolt]

I heard those unsold tokens will be in Yield.

[vagrant echo]

hi everyone

[gloomy ibex]

They are returned to treasury if not sold. They are discussin what to do, may be liquidity for Sushi.. no hard plan I have heard but back to treasury

[mint shuttle]

liquidity farming will be in sushi ? Is there any doc regarding it in medium?

[lofty knoll]

DAO will decide with a proposal

[barren scaffold]

Hello, welcome!

[vagrant echo]

how you all doing today?

[gloomy ibex]

I don't know, don't think they have releaseed any information beyond that

[strong terrace]

Hei someone know this ...? The. Ala cer sale end, and then we can use our points to get the NFT ... Did the sushi swap start after it ? Or is it included so when sushi end then we get token ..... Or get sushi swap another nfts

Ok thx that really confused me :) also the balancer and nft is one thing and the susho some other

Good so :)

[golden spindle]

Is the server open?

[vagrant echo]

glad to hear, i'm good. I'm looking for some crypto games to play.

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/bunnies-what-confused-meh-gif-13712192

[karmic lichen]

@golden spindle what?

[golden spindle]

is it playable rn?

[lofty knoll]

Around September this year

[strong terrace]

Perfect :)

[golden spindle]

alright thanks

[severe igloo]

Heeeeey I’m back

Where are we?

[lofty knoll]

Same place haha 55$

[idle terrace]

Yeah not hard to remember that chart

[lofty knoll]

Hahah yea

[last bolt]

When 50:50

[torn patio]

balancer says $58.87

which is right

balancer or Coinmarketcap?

or is one delayed?

[last bolt]

Balancer

[torn patio]

then the price is $58.88

[floral oriole]

You have to purchase an Illuvium to start playing right? Or how does the game work? I mean, I know it's not out yet, but do we know any mechanics?

[ionic sonnet]

still too high imo.. waiting for 10-20

[last bolt]

Like Dota underlord I believe.

[ashen solstice]

thats pretty low, do you actually think it will reach there within the next 20 hours?

[torn patio]

They said it will be like TFT

[floral oriole]

oh, so you will be given a team to start or you have to buy them first?

[slender heart]

you catch them like pokemon, its a mix of pokemon and tft

[floral oriole]

Oh, that is interesting. Is capturing a transaction?

[sage falcon]

there will be a starter area where you are given weak illuvials for free to try the game and see if you like it. To start playing for real and catching illuvials out in the wild and playing ranked, you will need to either buy Illuvials or shards. They dont want the cost to start playing the game to be over a couple hundred bucks for a starter team ever

[ionic sonnet]

the sale will be going on for another 48 hours

[floral oriole]

I see. I guess I have to watch out when the game comes out I guess?

[ionic sonnet]

I doubt it gets that low, but that is where I'm comfortable buying in.. otherwise I will buy off the exchange after a dip

[ashen solstice]

oops yeah forgot theres 3 days

[sage falcon]

yes but on Immutable X, so no gas fees (and instant)

[ashen solstice]

makes sense, yeah it would be nice to get it that cheap.

[twilit steppe]

What's the plan for the unsold ilv in the lbp?

migrate to uni?

[ionic sonnet]

I don't think that is cheap. 1 month ago it was valued at 3.33... there hasn't been anythign beside "NFT Hype" that is now driving the price 20x?

[ashen solstice]

ah, i didn't know it was valued at 3.33 before. I'm just saying it's cheap based on the fact that there were people buying $100k worth at like $70 price

[floral oriole]

I don't mean to bother, but do we know when the game is out? All I've done is sending my email to illuvium website

[red geyser]

Not Uniswap sushiswap. But not sure how much liquidity will be transferred. Still undecided.

[inner topaz]

I think the major difference is that there are gamers turned investors (who expect to see all facets of the game) then there are investors who predict what a project will be in the future.

[strong terrace]

Q3 planned release, please go announcment and read all medium article then you now ALL :)

[ionic sonnet]

some people just buy to buy not understanding the dynamics of the listing

[strong terrace]

How was your burger mate ??? Haha damn what u done to me i like to invest 5 k euro... Now im at 5 eth for mamuth ( and now i chek i am to poor to activate it on my account instead trading it in 10 years)

[lusty haven]

Any estimate for when we’ll see gameplay?

[chrome topaz]

first impressions matter

id rather wait

[inner topaz]

We could put gameplay together now as evident by the in-game trailer. However, we like things polished before we share them. First impressions 😉

[lusty haven]

The cinematic trailer was in game? Or was there another one

[karmic lichen]

I think some parts of it were

maybe all of it 👀

[lusty haven]

I just think the IDO should’ve been after having a concrete understanding of the game

But guess it’s just me

[plain shale]

Does anyone know how the staking of ILV will work(and when)? Haven't been able to find any specifics in any posts. Might've just missed it - As in where to do it, and stuff like that

[twilit steppe]

thanks man

[strong terrace]

Important are mechanics, a car must drive before you make it look nice :)

[lusty haven]

Gotcha

[chrome topaz]

if it wasnt in game they could pre render it and make it like a world of warcraft cinematic

[timber ore]

120k ish tokens sold, and the weights are still roughly 80-20, this is gonna drop alot more, dont ape in now

[lusty haven]

Yep, gonna wait

[timber ore]

high gas prices, guarantee 10-12 hours from now, will be lower price plus lower gas

[formal oar]

all you whales lmk when you are going to buy so I can get in with my baby bags before you jack the price :p

[round schooner]

theres an arb bot just milking this flawed system?

[frosty pike]

Man these gas fees rn...

[restive iron]

pretty much yeah, just keeps growing stronger:

[timber ore]

@round schooner yup, that one bot has literally made 2k+ free ILV in the past day

over $100k and more just trading back and forth

[serene wave]

that's not an arb bot, it's balancer adjusting weights to the curve...

[restive iron]

i dont think that is correct

why would it need 2 transactions like that?

[lofty knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-nah-nope-no-gif-4276898

[eager fable]

where is the in game trailer

[serene wave]

this is what gets triggered every time someone pokes

[eager fable]

i must not know what a gameplay trailer is

[stone pawn]

why does it say cinematic if its in-game

[eager fable]

cause thats a cinematic

[stone pawn]

that does not look in-game at all

[chrome topaz]

its in game done like a cinematic

[inner topaz]

did you read all the material?

[stone pawn]

[chrome topaz]

i think his asking for a gameplay trailer?

[timber ore]

yup, would feel alot better about investing multiple ETH if there was atleast a gameplay trailer i could look at

[chrome topaz]

hey cnig69

theres a ton of helpful links

[eager fable]

i meant gameplay trailer obviously

[chrome topaz]

and medium articles

[eager fable]

my b

[chrome topaz]

and in this discord lots of picture lieaks

[stone pawn]

it doesnt look in-game tbh

[timber ore]

@chrome topaz ive read all of the medium articles and links

[chrome topaz]

you can find heaps of mateiral

[timber ore]

to me thats just vision and direction of what the company expects to be accomplished

as an investor, wanting to see actual footage of the product we are investing in

isnt a crime to ask as well

[stone pawn]

ive seen in-game models and they look nothing like the in-game in that trailer

[chrome topaz]

im not saying its a crime

[eager fable]

no need to be defensive we want to invest lmao

[timber ore]

@blissful bay we are talking about this specific project, not other crypto projects

[inner topaz]

My point is: That is the graphics in game. We will demo gameplay next. If you haven't ever seen that, well, not sure what to tell you. Take it up with @little flax he is a freak

[timber ore]

not sure why you keep mentioning other projects as your argument.

[restive iron]

Then don't invest and wait until there is a gameplay trailer. Others of us would like the opportunity to invest at this stage.

[eager fable]

sure looks like a cinematic..

[chrome topaz]

hey cnig69 if your not comfortable with the current information

[eager fable]

but apparently in game footage

[chrome topaz]

id say wait

but as an early invester

who wants to make the project succeed and giving them more funding

[tame solar]

how much ETH was in the starting pool

[chrome topaz]

thats the risk you take

[inner topaz]

This is music to his ears. He literally said people will say that. Too good to him

[quick spindle]

Sounds like they did good work then 🙂

[eager fable]

impressive if so :p

[hollow drum]

Facts

[timber ore]

@chrome topaz well my question is, how early are we? investing when youre early i agree is worth it as you believe in the project. but at a price point of $30-50, it makes me question as an investor, am i really an "early" investor

[stone pawn]

so that trailer was in the game client and not produced made in whatever design studio used for modeling?

[chrome topaz]

its all relative

do you know how much goes into a game than blockchain on top

[timber ore]

especially when the true early investors got in at $3.33. theyre early.

[chrome topaz]

especially since they are hiring top artists

[inner topaz]

Unreal 4 sir.

[chrome topaz]

its all relative

[eager fable]

🤯

[chrome topaz]

how long is that locked for

do you know what these vcs are offering to the team to help make this project succussful

[timber ore]

from what i read, 1 year, and then linear unlock thorugh the 2nd year right?

[chrome topaz]

and the token offers revenue share

so theirs incentive to hold

[inner topaz]

Again, I feel like i've answered this 8 trillion times. Pre sale investors are locked for up to 24 months.... and they invested TRULY when we had nothing but a pitch deck. If you're worried now, with a 23K community and some of the craziest graphics in the world. You certainly wouldn't have invested at $3 back then 😆

[agile meadow]

Just ape the F in. Hahaha

[chrome topaz]

exactly

its like proof of concept and what we have now

[hollow drum]

facts

[chrome topaz]

these guys buying at $3 dollars

[tame solar]

youre talking about the preseed

[chrome topaz]

take the biggest risk

[inner topaz]

PreSeed, yes. Kain was our biggest "pre seed" investor and he didn't even get a deck to look at....

[torn patio]

I'm looking forward to the gameplay demo. Big TFT fan here, assuming it will be a lot like TFT.

[chrome topaz]

at the end of the day. this game is creating something special

and just cause your used these 3 million dollar presale

[agile meadow]

https://c.tenor.com/1RXoW6pyTXMAAAAM/jeff-bridges-what.gif

[tame solar]

I'd appreciate if ETH didnt fullsend for another 36 hours

[balmy aurora]

hi can anyone help me find out if Bitupcex is a scam?

[hollow drum]

pump up the jam

[chrome topaz]

on an another note

[torn patio]

anyone holding ETH waiting to buy ILV is doing pretty good right now

[chrome topaz]

is there a way to make the downward pressure more aggressive?