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outer linden
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I can’t eat right now. I’m unemployed and broke lol

warm lantern
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better than you

inner topaz
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Seriously

narrow junco
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Lol @outer linden get in the voice chat

inner topaz
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hahaha

final plume
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I need the prize if anyone

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Lol

viral notch
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lesgo kieran win for my boy riggins!!

rough hamlet
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That Atlas plushie is making my ovaries quiver

lusty mantle
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Ok go type in voice channel chat. Don’t wanna see TFT anymore

viral notch
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bulldogs fo life

proven rain
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Well didn’t know I HAD to have an atlas plushie till this morning

lusty mantle
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It looks so good!

inner topaz
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Okay we ready? Everyone nominated?

remote cedar
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I'm to low to nominate

lusty mantle
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Go away Kieran

inner topaz
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Wow that tongue may even be longer than pablo's

proven rain
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What we voting on? Gm

zinc arch
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Wait! I nominate @inner topaz ! You have to be at least master right?

narrow junco
inner topaz
viral notch
worthy juniper
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looks like hes melting

inner topaz
lusty mantle
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Can you please use voice channel chat for your game.

lusty mantle
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@zinc arch I used please, I’m getting serieus again šŸ˜…

oak gyro
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Is this game out yet?

vagrant inlet
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Will we able to buy the Merch and Plushies with SILV2? šŸ‘€

lusty mantle
tidal garnetBOT
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You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can improve your chances of being selected for the beta by:

  1. Becoming a ranger (Level 5 in the server)
  2. Joining # twitter-role and promoting Illuvium on twitter
  3. Participating in (and winning) our weekly trivia competition

Battle against waves of Illuvials, stand strong in the onslaught, and turn the tide of the ambush in your favour — in the PvE Autobattler Survival Mode

viral notch
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i nominate @inner topaz win for our bulldogs!!

lusty mantle
lusty mantle
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God bless

zinc arch
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I see a ban incoming though

rough hamlet
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If my kids see that plushie, they're going to be asking me for one everyday.

lusty mantle
zinc arch
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@worthy juniper

lusty mantle
lusty mantle
rough hamlet
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My middle child is already in love with Illuvium. I started letting him play arena last week, and he's been asking me everyday to play.

rough hamlet
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Atlas is his favorite

quick spindle
lusty mantle
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@worthy juniper you got 5 min to remove that clown.

violet aspen
quick spindle
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Thanks, Paz.

near pier
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What clown

vast saffron
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Christmas plushies!!!

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Kids are gonna be stoked

torn plinth
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Is it a beanie baby? Lmao.

errant rivet
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Plushies... how? When? Money.. i gib. Take it, i dont need it. Need plushy

viral notch
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any stl illuvials i wanna print some illuvial figurines once i get my 3d printer

lusty mantle
rough hamlet
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Hopefully they'll have a good selection.. I'll legit buy them all

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my youngest kids are in their peak plushy years

lusty citrus
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I just need a squizz stress reliever squishy

errant rivet
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If i buy 20 plushies do i get beta access?

balmy elk
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epic!

quick spindle
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Plenty of other ways to get it though!

gentle egret
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i can't watch these guys playing TFT. no idea what's going on.

lusty mantle
zinc arch
gentle egret
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that plushie will certainly sell like hell! I want one for me and to give as a present to everyone else...
just hope i don't have to pay double the price because of taxes and shipping in Brazil

lusty mantle
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I'm starting to get afraid of that merch store

gentle egret
quick spindle
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Or I should say, my wallet has.

zinc arch
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Can’t wait. Then I’ll have a place to buy presents for everyone I know and be like, don’t you just looove it? šŸ˜

quick spindle
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My brain:

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My wallet:

gentle egret
outer hull
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as a staker:

lusty citrus
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Im hoping RevDis can pay for my merch addiction and Land can pay for my game addiction.

viral notch
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VIPER VS KIERAN LESGO

lusty mantle
errant rivet
outer hull
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i will be happy buying merch knowing i will at least make 0.000001$ back from revdis

lusty citrus
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When have you made money even a little from buying merch? its a cool concept can't wait to see in action

viral notch
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@inner topaz change ur position last sec!!! and focus on karma

lusty mantle
remote cedar
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There is no Kieran there

lusty mantle
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He is also not here, he is playing TFT

quick spindle
dense grove
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I don't own a plushie. I don't buy plushies. I don't need plushies.
One will NOT be added to the cart when I buy my hoodie(s?).

But how much better would playing overworld be with my little plushie sitting in my lap ready to get thrown across the room when the game annoyed me. It could save the controller, therefore SAVING me money if I bought it.

Justification for spending begins....

quick spindle
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Since the ping is related to what's going on in that channel

inner topaz
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lol my panth being sacrificed was criminal

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Congrats

twin stag
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lol

viral notch
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GG

outer linden
agile tapir
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That Karma

inner topaz
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I've never rolled so hard in my life

stable jasper
inner topaz
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GG

remote cedar
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GG

warm lantern
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GG

agile tapir
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GG

ripe geode
obsidian knot
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GG

inner topaz
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Good night peeps, tell me who I owe ILV to

outer linden
viral notch
worldly mist
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gg kieran thanks for the fun

dense grove
narrow junco
lusty mantle
dense grove
late crystal
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Is that the Founder? Didn’t know he is a cute frog

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🐄

narrow junco
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its a lLizard!!

dense grove
late crystal
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ILizard LOOL

lusty mantle
late crystal
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Why are most of the team all Frogs? ^_^

dense grove
lusty mantle
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Are Axolotl hard to maintain? I think I want one now šŸ‘€

late crystal
dense grove
lusty mantle
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I'll try to forget that idea for now

dense grove
rough hamlet
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I figured out where you're from Fraggy šŸ‘€

dense grove
rough hamlet
lusty mantle
rough hamlet
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Lmao

red geyser
quick spindle
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The true star of this Illuvitalks-- Mike's Beard.

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Holy.

azure narwhal
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Damn I said I was going to take a break from discord and Kieran came in the chat

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Sad times

lusty mantle
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It's ok, he is gone now

quick spindle
azure narwhal
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At least I didn’t miss a trivia

outer linden
azure narwhal
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Just barely but I would’ve missed it

azure narwhal
quick spindle
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Well you know the age-old saying

azure narwhal
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Also can we please get Chris to a 1000 followers so I can get my lizard

uneven cedar
outer linden
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No chance lol

azure narwhal
# near pier whats he at now

268šŸ˜†. I immediately left a reply to Kieran’s tweet saying incoming quadruple digits and then he says that in order to get our prizes and run trivia in the future we have to get him to 1000. These both affect me greatly

azure narwhal
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Wasn’t stipulated

uneven cedar
warm lantern
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lol

lusty mantle
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He can afford it with all the prizes he is winning

warm lantern
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I remember in HS someone once said if this gets 5k likes he plays a stupid card in a championship, 5min later someone comments a screenshot of buying 5k likes for 50 bucks or so

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I think the guy ditched and didn“t play the for fun card after that either

pearl pelican
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Hello admin, is there any smartcontract associated to the beta release?

azure narwhal
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We could get Chris to a 1000 followers the old fashioned way

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I know it’s possible

pearl pelican
azure narwhal
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Yes

sage falcon
pearl pelican
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Thanks

azure narwhal
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Did you guys see they added mini golf to discord live streams

dense grove
azure narwhal
lusty mantle
dense grove
dense grove
azure narwhal
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Spread a bunch if info about how I’d they follow Chris on Twitter they can win a prize

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Which isn’t technically false

azure narwhal
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Kieran said he heard Chris was going to give 10 OW beta spots away. Could have been a measly joke but idk

azure narwhal
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Anything hells

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Helps

dense grove
lusty mantle
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I already had an discord account but I don't remember why

azure narwhal
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I don’t remember why I’ve had one so long either

sweet epoch
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Wwhhhheeeeennnnnnnnn plushie!!!!

azure narwhal
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I left a surprise for you

sweet epoch
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Brb

lusty mantle
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šŸ‘€

azure narwhal
lusty mantle
quick spindle
void halo
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so the process is pay from your personal card, and then get reimbursed?

lusty mantle
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Now THAT is a weird first message

void halo
quick spindle
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Aww-- actual outro music this time around.
Was looking forward to improv outro music from Andrew's mouth haha

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That was a fun Illuvitalks though. Enjoyed the guests!

near pier
languid silo
stable jasper
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Kieran is the best šŸ˜„

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especially when hes sleep deprived

worldly mist
languid silo
languid silo
azure narwhal
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I’m picking up all the Pennie’s he’s dropping

near pier
azure narwhal
near pier
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What about Tarren?

quick spindle
near pier
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I'm messin

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I'm scared what figment does with that picture

quick spindle
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Ahh Rich is a 4 snaps kind of guy

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I work with 3, myself.

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(Very critical information here y'all Pho_Haha )

languid silo
languid silo
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Ohhh somebody made a new screaming BeaverdogFlex

azure narwhal
near pier
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its probably on the wall next to your computer

languid silo
azure narwhal
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Do want to see what’s on the wall next to my computer

languid silo
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Yes

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Please

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And supersize it

azure narwhal
quick spindle
azure narwhal
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I’m sorry remi it was sending as you sent your message I’ll delete it

languid silo
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Your son?

azure narwhal
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Yes

languid silo
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Your heir to the Illuvium enterprise😃 how old is he?

azure narwhal
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2 1/2

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Whenever I turn on my computer he says ā€œdaddy fighting gameā€ that’s what he calls illuvium rn

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Woah I think I just realized one of the use cases for the general chat

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It isn’t meant to be a place to hold conversation.

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It’s the place to ask someone if they want to have a conversation with you in the proper channel

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Like this

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I’m thinking of building a new pc towards the end of the year, if I send the link in to #1023650034593570917 can you guys give me some thoughts on my build

zinc arch
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My understanding is that everything is allowed in general, as long as there is less than one message per minute

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From different persons of.course

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So go ham

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Is it a top tier or budget?

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Must be budget, with a kid on the side

thin elbow
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I don't See a build in off-topic feeling rugged

stable jasper
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same i went to look šŸ‘€

spice prairie
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Any news about the lands ?

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Or spaces ?

sharp kestrel
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Atlas is so cute 🄰

azure narwhal
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Honestly I’d rather Kieran just enjoy his vacation than try and fit spaces or amas in. Better to have him back fully refreshed and actually able to enjoy himself while he’s on his trip jr there was no point in taking it

steady iris
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Note to self: turn off notifications when I'm trying to sleep. Wow that was a lot of pings

steady iris
worldly mist
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I'm unfollowing

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Everyone unfollow Chris and follow me @glacial aspenTheGing

thin elbow
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What do i get if i follow you? šŸ˜

worldly mist
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Idk I just thought it would be a good meme

thin elbow
thin elbow
normal python
thin elbow
near pier
normal python
near pier
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Say what

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I need this to be a meme

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So fraggy can’t bust me for posting dog pics in general

thin elbow
tardy horizon
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I wonder how many token holders we will have in the future if we onboard millions of players

near pier
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Jimbo I will order you the hottest gummy bear but you have to snort it

thin elbow
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I think there is a show Like that with celebs... I saw it once. Pretty hilarious

steady iris
tardy horizon
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Was a good AMA

azure narwhal
near pier
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You’re gonna be on camera again

thin elbow
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But you could eat hot wings, (b)eating jim live

near pier
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Lol

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You can’t deny it

azure narwhal
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You’re a man of the people

worldly mist
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Actually @steady iris you should let me do an AMA with you, while coaching you on ILV, while doing the hot ones challenge.

worldly mist
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Honestly doesn't even have to be an AMA not really my style

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just let me do a video with you lmao

near pier
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Whoa

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This is starting to sound inappropriate

worldly mist
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You just have a dirty mind

azure narwhal
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Rich has a perverse mind

worldly mist
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you can join in if you want tho

near pier
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Like figment having pictures of me on his wall

thin elbow
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You could ask the serious questions, questions only jim is brave enough to ask

azure narwhal
worldly mist
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or do i? šŸ™‚

near pier
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@steady iris is the judge, jury and executioner. He can’t be fired

tardy horizon
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I actually had a dream last night with Kieran. I was his security guard who could also predict the future.

thin elbow
tardy horizon
azure narwhal
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I swear I come to the chat when it’s dead

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Wait

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Am I, the problem?

azure narwhal
azure narwhal
azure narwhal
worldly mist
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Discord is so dead Figment is talking to himself

azure narwhal
azure narwhal
azure narwhal
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SpongeBob has just got a scene for almost everything

near pier
azure narwhal
steady iris
azure narwhal
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I’m part of the community

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In fact

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Right now

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It looks like I am the community

proud wing
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I'm putting my hand up to see this too

warm lantern
steady iris
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....fine

Get like 200 šŸ”„ on this and I'll do a hot ones challenge with @worldly mist

crimson lagoon
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ahahah lets do it

near pier
steady iris
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I should have picked a bigger number

queen orbit
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Only a few more šŸ”„ to go!

crimson lagoon
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almost there

coarse flower
worldly mist
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šŸ‘€

crimson lagoon
proud wing
steady iris
worldly mist
untold thistle
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those of you who are waiting for illuvium to release, what are you doing during your spare time?

proud wing
untold thistle
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yall think doge will make it?

red geyser
spice delta
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šŸ’© nope

quick spindle
lone yarrow
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Is it wrong for a 50 year old man to want an Atlas plushie?

proud wing
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Make yourself happy, not others

outer hull
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Its a good sign that it is a great product

lusty citrus
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Cute is cute wether you 5 or 50.

crimson lagoon
ashen kite
spring hollow
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Ok... after quite a lot of opinions i've been able to read here or on Twitter... i have a few questionsi'd like us all to discuss.
Was it actually clearly said that as a F2P player in Illuvium all we can catch is Tier 0s?

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i mean i go out for a trip with no fuel, fresh new player, can i run into anything else than T0s? or can i also find let's say an atlas? and if i find an atlas, is there something else than the difficulty of the wave that prevents me from catching it?

gritty tiger
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Only zeros

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Don’t think they would let you face an atlas win then say, oh too bad can’t have that.

spring hollow
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Ok and those Tier 0s have unique stats (like any other illuvial) and can be leveled up, to potentially either be plaied by yourself, or sold to make yourself some fuel and starting to catch something else right ?

gritty tiger
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Yes

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But only zeros

spring hollow
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and do people here REALLY expect this game to be a fun free to play experience ?!

gritty tiger
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It’s a hook. You will want to spend the money you can make from selling T0s to be able to collect more. Play with more.

merry sundial
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Don“t I remember an interview hooking people from web2 trough catching in free to play and offer them to "go to the blockchain"?

dusty plank
# spring hollow and do people here REALLY expect this game to be a fun free to play experience ?...

I mean, was Hearthstone (at launch) REALLY a fun free to play experience? It's a collectables game, you're gonna have a better time if you're willing to put in a bit of money. I definitely think it'll be playable, especially for people who just wanna see what it's all about.

I mean, we're gonna be getting compared to Axie, which you couldn't even try without spending $800 for a team. Instead you get to try it out for free.

I'm guessing the implication here is that you don't think it'll be a fun free to play experience?

merry sundial
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would be only use if it is more then T0

spring hollow
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let's be honest:
what i see is that only Tier 0s with INCREDIBLE stats and max level will have demand (as their only use will be Leviathan)
because they're actually free to get, a lot of these will be on the market and they'll be sold for like 20cts each and maybe an incredible one max leveled will be 2-3$...
You cannot expect to go very far in PvP using only them either as even tho they are useful, the stats gap is pretty big.

so all of this means, a free to play player, needs to FIND at least 3 to 5 EXCEPTIONNALLY high stats Tier 0s (Preferably Grokko as it is the best one) before he can buy ONE trip to the cheapest area.

This is insane effort to just be able to play with anything else than the 5 demo characters...

dusty plank
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T0's stats matter in Overworld too.

spring hollow
dusty plank
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I don't think the goal has ever been to give away as many "card packs" as possible. If someone wants to grind out the free experience, that's a choice they are making.

sage falcon
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Grokko the best? Have you even tried fire attipo?

spring hollow
gritty tiger
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Most really fun AAA games cost a little something. Mainstream gamers have no problem dropping $60 on the latest COD. They come in they play F2P, they like it, they drop a little cheddar cheese. I think you are overthinking it.

spring hollow
# dusty plank I mean, was Hearthstone (at launch) REALLY a fun free to play experience? It's a...

just lemme come back to the "we're gonna be compared to axie"
That's where i don't think the same. Everyone here thinks about mass adoption, and i think that's the goal Illuvium is aiming for... Web2 people never even heard of Axie. they will compare us with what they know:
Hearthstone, Legends of Runeterra, Yu-gi-oh Master Duel (for the TCGs)
and to PokƩmon, Monster Hunter, Zelda, Ark Survival Evolved for the RPG-grinding part.

spring hollow
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in fact i'll probably barely touch overworld and just put the money on the table for my competitive deck and go play Ranked

sage falcon
# spring hollow all attipos are cool, and to be fair the Flish, Volante and Dokas are fine too. ...

yeah im loving that todays deck has 3 grokko. Its pretty OP if you can get them to chain stun somebody.

But to your main point, I think the expectation is that people will need to pay. If its reasonably easy to grind your way to things for free it will inevitably drive the price down over time. That kind of ruins the collectible facet of the game since the whole 'own your assets' thing is a lot less exciting when the assets are worth almost nothing.

gritty tiger
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You are saying you think it is false adverted that you can play this game long term and never spend a dime?

devout cedar
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when release

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šŸ˜„

dusty plank
# spring hollow just lemme come back to the "we're gonna be compared to axie" That's where i don...

I guess the heart of the matter is: Do you have any alternative suggestion for F2P that isn't going to get exploited into the ground?

It's fine for Hearthstone, or other web2 games, to give away in-game assets relatively freely. Those assets typically don't have monetary value (as you don't own them, the developer does). It makes pretty good sense to me to err on the side of caution with the availability of assets for free players.

There are already systems built in to lower the barrier to entry for competitive play - Stage 1's playable as Stage 3's, as an example.

I'm genuinely curious if you have a better idea, this kind of thing hasn't been discussed here in a long time.

spring hollow
# gritty tiger You are saying you think it is false adverted that you can play this game long t...

yeah kinda. i see people on twitter convinced that this game will conquer kids and stuff and become the next PokƩmon... as if kids would be satisfied with 5 different characters with 5 different colors each nowadays. but if they can't get more, they obviously won't like it or ask for money to their parents to play it, which will HUGELY decrease the amount of kids in the Illuvium Space. (so these people are just wrong imo)

once again im fine with that, like the whole game is about "Fight 4 ETH" and gambling is not for kids.

i'm just saying that maybe the people who know what this whole F2P experience is just to give a "Demo" and NOT MORE, should maybe educate the others

royal gyro
spring hollow
warm lantern
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Zep I think you are comparing ILV to a game with a F2P-cosmetics model, comparing to F2P-pay 2 progress faster ones might be the better way

spring hollow
dusty plank
spring hollow
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i see that as a huge redflag from the gamers communities POV

sage falcon
warm lantern
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also if you wanna compare to games, compare to actual TCGs, yugioh/Pokemon/Magic, kids play those and spend money/parents money, those cards have resell values like here

gritty tiger
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Most little kids play on phones, iPads and consoles I think

dusty plank
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I'll take it a step back - Do you agree that it's important to be cautious with the availability of in-game assets for free players?

I don't inherently disagree with your premise, that a pay wall will turn some portion of people away - It absolutely will, and there's precedent for that in any game with a pay wall.

I also think there's a big difference in the model of ownership from some of the games you're comparing to. Pokemon TCG or MTG weren't giving card packs away to people.

Maybe there's some kind of other solution that doesn't gate gameplay, but also doesn't give people free assets. Gods Unchained, at least the last time I played it, had something like that going on.

spring hollow
# warm lantern I mean we don“t know shit about how it will all be at this point, who knows how ...

i mean i compare this with PokƩmon, a perfect stats pokemon is super rare and has like 1 out of millions chances to appear. anything which is not perfect stats is unusable competitively. i expect that in Illuvium anything below 95% of the potential max to have zero demand because otherwise it's easy to get, and if it's easy to get, why would one bother buying it rather than go farm it himself?

the only place other than overworld where this stats matter is Leviathan, which is the gambling arena. so demand will be really limited for anything not maxed imo.

Now about the price and cards thing:
i AM fine with that. i'm just saying i don't get how people can :
1: think the F2P aspect will be that big and actually "relevant"
2: i don't think the game will be a success with kids by the simple fact that the F2P is ultra limited, and at the moment you put money on the wallet for your kid to spend, you take the risk of him getting involved into gambling once you turn your back.

warm lantern
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these are all hypothesis, we don“t even have a whitepaper with numbers, we don“t know what dailies might do, or do we have a battle pass or are there T0 only tournaments (TCGs have locals etc.)
isn“t the question how much money the good deck will cost?
like you start in any game like HS/Magic etc. you don“t have a full deck
you start in most other games and don“t have maxed out Stats/Items
isn“t this just normal in a game with items?

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I don“t even know a single game where this is different

remote cedar
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We are just discussing with no data.

toxic lintel
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Im a Huge free to play player. Played months genshin and others game without put any money, but I feel like this New genre of game will be diffƩrent. Its more easy to me to drop more money to something that I know i can perhaps sell back. The mentality and eductation (for the parents too) will need to change. And Will change

spring hollow
# dusty plank I'll take it a step back - Do you agree that it's important to be cautious with ...

There are other projects as well aiming for a play2own model with no pay2win like bigtime or Fableborne. i'm still wandering how they'll manage to dissociate the player-driven economy from pay 2win tho as if something is better than something else, it's necessarily more expensive. but that's not the topic. all i'm saying is YES i think that IF you want Illuvials to keep a "somewhat high" value in $/ETH, you need to either put them behind a paywall or make a ponzi with limited supply.

My point was not about the decisions made. but about the communication around it.

warm lantern
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In the last years I often made the case for Genshin being a good F2P RPG game, but you for sure can never have the super powerfull teams without spending money, millions play and are happy

dusty plank
warm lantern
spring hollow
spring hollow
warm lantern
warm lantern
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that“s subjective

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I think the Genshin example is actually great, millions in EU play that game, and almost none of it“s revenue comes from EU, people still play it

spring hollow
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ok we're talking about a collectible monsters RPG game... why would a kid like more playing with 5 different monsters to chose from and 5 different colors instead of 100 ?

warm lantern
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you assume here that investing time won“t return anything of value

spring hollow
warm lantern
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you play that game F2P you don“t have that many tbh

little snow
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Keep it up guys. Enjoying the read lol

spring hollow
warm lantern
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only thing here I don“t like is that we talk about things we don“t even know numbers on

remote cedar
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Yep, at the end this conversation will not end in any agreement without numbers

spring hollow
gritty tiger
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Won’t everyone start with T0s and have to process up?

spring hollow
dusty plank
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The amount of time it takes to level up a given Illuvial is relevant as well.

remote cedar
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And what is the target audience? How many player are there in that audience? Will they pay even more feeling they own their "pokemons" and are better than others?

gritty tiger
#

Well yeah but who’s to say how easily that progression is. Won’t that make more people buy the T0s to progress faster?

warm lantern
# spring hollow what numbers do we need? selling price of a maxed out Grokko?

can f2p farm stuff for augments? armors? weapons? yes price of grokko or any other t0, they will prob all see play to some extent
are there things like timegated loot? are there ingame events with only t0s and prices? what are the actual prices of units? is a competitive deck is less than 100$? 200? 500?1000?
we don“t know shit tbh

#

Do you think a game needs to be fully possible f2p to be successfull?
I think lots of 9-10digit revenue games would disagree with that anyways

spring hollow
# dusty plank T0 capture rates, selling prices of T0's, cost of paid travel cycles are pretty ...

selling prices won't be much higher than the cards you get after 5h of grinding in Gods Unchained (10cts at best) i mean for what reason would they?
Capture rate doesn't matter, we already know that with the right usage of mastery points they'll be pretty high. they also need to be fairly easy for T0s because it needs to scale with tiers and because T0s are the starting point for everyone.
paid travel we've been told around a PokƩmon booster pack so i'd say around 5$

warm lantern
#

I get the point of this might be how things turn out, but we don“t have only 1 way of monetizing games and not only 1 way that works well currently in the world, so trying to paint this will work and this won“t seems wrong to me

spring hollow
warm lantern
dusty plank
#

You're assuming an extremely short progression from start to "This is the best a T0 can get". The more time investment required to get a T0 maxed out, the more value it has.

spring hollow
spring hollow
warm lantern
dusty plank
#

(Or bots ofc, but let's assume the team handles the bot problem)

warm lantern
#

people play games to get less than 1$/hour worth of ingame currency all the time tbh

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

and the "other games are better f2p" example, I mean will those games have a similar Brand or esport or content creation or streamers or playerbase? or updates? or income to be alive in 2 years?

#

you can“t see this so one dimensional

balmy elk
#

We just can speculate tbh which i don't like to i prefer to sit in the other side to believe in what the team have in their mind/hands with this tremendous graphics and economy model for sure they have a plan in how to bring hundred of players

warm lantern
#

edit* maybe ILV doesn“t have all the named things either, who knows, that“s why we are speculating atm

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

I think you have a very european mentality about this

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regarding the F2P aspect

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

also HS was not very F2P friendly at first, had millions of players

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tbh HS was also the digital version of the WoW TCG, that got killed for it

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

I played every TCG, card shop was my 2nd home xd

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

side fact, the HS autobattler just recently when to 20$/4months for actual competitive advantage, haven“t seen anything about game is dead yet

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or rather more dead than before*

balmy elk
#

A tournament with good prizes is the way tbh and lot of placement not only for top 10 or top 20.
People will see the "esport scene" in twitch or w/e it is streamed and they will think "how can i get there" "what do i need" they will start buying their decks or even if they can't afford start grinding overworld to capture their illuvials and so on

warm lantern
spring hollow
balmy elk
dusty plank
spring hollow
warm lantern
spring hollow
#

and in Web2 Brawlhala had 200 times superior cash prizes to Smash but 1/100 of the playerbase.
Same with Dota and LoL

warm lantern
#

(I don“t like BG or HS or TFT really, wanna make that clear all bad games, but best we got atm)

warm lantern
#

I believe Riot can“t do same crowdfunding cause of some US laws

#

HS did the corwdfunding in 2020 as well and had to put a cap on the number, or so we were told

spring hollow
warm lantern
#

taxes are bad in europe, very socialist region

crimson lagoon
#

in portugal taxes are soooooooo high

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
#

half of your income goes to the government

warm lantern
crimson lagoon
#

its taxes as well

spring hollow
#

when you have to pay everything the same price that the rest of Europe while having half the salary...

crimson lagoon
#

but yes low salaries

warm lantern
#

need to move to texas, but these 80k new IRS agents monkaS

crimson lagoon
#

some things are cheaper but not every thing

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
#

and now stuff is getting very expensive

#

oh

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for real

#

im from lisbon

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im here now

spring hollow
#

šŸ‡µšŸ‡¹

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my mom's portuguese=) father swiss

crimson lagoon
#

oh nice

#

you speak Portuguese then right?

spring hollow
#

yep did school there till my 11yo

devout cedar
#

isn't portugal like 0 tax for crypto

spring hollow
#

long story but to make it simple im born in switzerland, went to live to portugal when i was 3 and came back 8 years later for studies

crimson lagoon
spring hollow
spring hollow
#

when you know the country you know their politics won't stay forever without claiming their part of the cake on such a business xD

spring hollow
#

and good cofee

crimson lagoon
#

ahahah yess

devout cedar
#

I've been there for a month this summer, a lot of French/German/Italians come in Portugal to live due the taxes are low

crimson lagoon
#

um bitoque vem sempre bem ao almoƧo

#

i mean food over here is very good in my opinion

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
#

yup

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705 eur a month

#

its minimum wage

valid marten
#

Jeeeeeez i’ve been choosen for the beta tester šŸ™ŒšŸ¼šŸ™ŒšŸ¼

young moss
#

hellz yeah i gott he beta email

crimson lagoon
#

but its going to 750

spring hollow
#

that's why i always said i wanna live in portugal but ONLY if i dont need to work anymore cauz i dont wanna be salaryman there

crimson lagoon
#

xd

devout cedar
warm lantern
spring hollow
devout cedar
#

they mostly sell drugs I assume

#

xd

warm lantern
#

one of my best buddies lives in serbia, he almost conviced me to move there, just need to make money on the internet

devout cedar
#

Well tbh

crimson lagoon
spring hollow
warm lantern
crimson lagoon
devout cedar
#

its cheap country to live, woman are beautiful, food is great

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
devout cedar
#

Same but we have better food

#

šŸ˜„

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
#

hummmmmmm... dont be so sure

spring hollow
crimson lagoon
#

mesmoo

devout cedar
#

I have bro

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But u never tried pljeskavica and cevapi

#

xd

simple crown
#

Anyone receive beta 2 mail? Is it real?

spring hollow
# devout cedar I have bro

well then i guess it's all about tastes. i know Serbian food actually and it's not my cup of tea. Dated a serbian girl at some point (yep i managed to break up and am still alive despite the 2 big brothers xDDDD)

spring hollow
rigid cipher
valid marten
#

Just want to be sure... i've been selected for the PB2 beta test but is this legit ?

rigid cipher
#

yep, downloading atm

spring hollow
devout cedar
#

xd

valid marten
simple crown
spring hollow
devout cedar
#

can't post pictures unfortunately

valid marten
#

That's pretty dope ! thanks

devout cedar
spring hollow
#

well then welcome to Illuvium beta everyone!

rigid cipher
#

Is it cool for me to stream it to my friends on discord, or is that a no no?

devout cedar
#

wen alpha

spring hollow
warm lantern
rigid cipher
#

gotcha, sweet!

spring hollow
#

and that you have no links with the team

valid marten
#

Ohh i am soo excited !

crimson lagoon
#

i am still waiting for that mail

steady iris
# rigid cipher gotcha, sweet!

All we ask is to let your stream know that you're showing beta footage, that they should expect bugs, and that what they see may not match the final product.

Other than that, go for it, have fun, and good luck

valid marten
#

Windows defender blocked the start of the .exe to install illuvium 🤯

steady iris
#

Yeah, that'll happen.

I just tell it to run anyway

valid marten
manic wave
#

OMG OMG OMG I got an invite!

proud wing
manic wave
#

wait was i one of the 500 who won the lucky draw?

pallid lion
#

Let's go! Just got pb2 email

steady iris
grizzled flint
#

GN Bros.. who got an invite to play beta?

manic wave
manic wave
#

oh gosh my laptop is laggy, i will need a better pc if I'm gonna play it

oblique slate
manic wave
oblique slate
manic wave
#

I only have 1 resolution setting

#

But i did lower the fps so hopefully it will help

#

If not I'll just have to wait until I get a beefier computer to play on

regal sundial
#

Finally

manic wave
#

Cuz my laptop is not meant for gaming

cyan anchor
#

This was unexpected. LFG!

covert violet
sharp kestrel
steady iris
agile tapir
crimson lagoon
#

well i dindnt get mine

#

i guess better luck next time

#

i still have hope

warm lantern
agile tapir
warm lantern
#

I don“t remember much either, but thought there was some curve hunter meta, jsut only played like best on curve cards, no quests

jolly dune
#

Hi guys!

One doubt about buy land on illuvidex.

My tokens have to be on IMX or ETH?

warm lantern
#

I was giga casual anyways

agile tapir
#

reminds me of usual HS hunter decks lol

warm lantern
#

on the last WoW TCG set I played one sneak for a buddy, opened the giga pack with spectral tiger+ x more mounts codes, I was so sad I didn“t play for myself

warm lantern
quick spindle
crimson lagoon
#

well i m going to watch some illuvium vids

spring hollow
#

also if you can make it to watch some @warm lantern streams on twitch or even just the VODs you'll probably learn a ton as well

#

recently Viper also started to give very useful tips on Twitter so you can definitely go check it out

crimson lagoon
#

okok, going to check it out now

near pier
near pier
near pier
quick spindle
#

Rich is feeling in command this eve!

agile tapir
#

GM everyone

quick spindle
#

Morning Scruba! How's it going?

agile tapir
#

Pretty good. Made breakfast for the kids and now I have some time to check discord before I have to get ready for work

split lintel
#

Anyone have that diagram of which illuvial types are more frequent in certain areas

agile tapir
#

Hows your day going @quick spindle ?

spring hollow
abstract wigeon
#

hey hey family hope your all having an amazing day !!!! i was wondering if someone can help me, Im trying to figure out how come i havent been able to download the beta 2. when i go into my acc to download it just saying pending.. please help family

dense grove
spring hollow
gilded path
#

dont think there is an actual diagram for overworld since they are probably gonna be adjusted based on which regions are available

indigo cedar
#

night friends! does anyone here knows how i can turn my ILV/ETH Pool SLP into ILV + ETH?

dense grove
quick spindle
agile tapir
#

Nice! Definitely good to unplug right before sleeping.

swift wadi
#

I just had a beta invitation. Lets go.šŸ”„

quick spindle
swift wadi
#

Sure thing. I cannot wait to play after our working hours. Haha

abstract wigeon
cyan anchor
coarse fossil
#

Does anyone have a recommended starter or strategy guide ?

graceful crescent
coarse fossil
#

Awesome. thanks ill start there

graceful crescent
# coarse fossil Awesome. thanks ill start there

Specifically:
Tanks are called Bulwarks.
Damage dealers are either fighter or rogue
Healers are Empath.

You can use the buttons at the bottom of the PB2 UI to select these classes and see your options.

spring hollow
flint tide
#

dualeph is not a damage dealer

spring hollow
graceful crescent
#

Ok, the experts are here 😁

split lintel
split lintel
#

Make them look silly

flint tide
#

but not all psions are dps

#

better is just to learn what the classes do

#

and what the units do roughly

spring hollow
#

yep i agree, best thing to do to learn the game is go on Training mode or open a website like illuvialmaster or Infoluvial and read. Don't be lazy to learn the stuff as this game is ONLY about decision making and game knowledge.

Think of this like Chess, if we just tell you the rules and how the pieces move you won't go very far

small summit
tardy horizon
#

Without thinking of affinities I can only get to wave 12 on average

#

I’m at the stage where I can start using them apart of my overall strategy

spring hollow
primal burrow
#

Anyone know when alpha is supposed to launch?

tardy horizon
simple patrol
solar oyster
#

Look who got there bulldogs jersey. šŸ˜€

flint tide
simple patrol
graceful crescent
#

Best to use this in #šŸ‘‘ć€•bot-commands Channel

split lintel
pallid lion
sage falcon
#

yo fraglet

sage falcon
#

yo fraglet I said

#

jesus is nobody in australia

wise arrow
#

Woohoooooo

stable jasper
azure narwhal
sage falcon
azure narwhal
#

But like the word play

sage falcon
#

nobody. ever. has to explain. jokes. to me. I gotcha fam

azure narwhal
#

What’s with the punctuation

stable jasper
#

is it a joke that needs explaining ? šŸ‘€

sage falcon
#

emphasis

#

who are you and have you seen my latest masterpiece?

#

on twitter

glossy crescent
sage falcon
gritty osprey
#

Thank illuvium for giving me the opportunity to join Beta Atlas_Love

untold crown
#

I just got selected as well

#

i guess we just click on Illuvium.exe ? Windows defender is blocking it saying it's an unrecognised app. AMATEUR lol

lusty mantle
#

gm

azure narwhal
simple patrol
wispy kindle
untold crown
zinc arch
sage falcon
#

i think it's @sacred axlestclair_ or something

#

mess around with the underscore

lusty mantle
sage falcon
dapper oar
#

Hello All, I'm sure you all already know as gamers but just in case you don't the Dota2 International is being played out in Singapore right now, its a great opportunity to see what the best Esport game is doing and looks like today. I think Illuvium can learn allot from Dota2 in regards to esports/tournaments so I hope the core contributors can take some time to have a good look at what they have created in there world/competitions and how a reasonably simple MOB has such a missive following 13 years into its life. Thanks

hybrid finch
humble raptor
#

GM everyone

#

I just got into the beta

#

May i know what is the daily challenge shown on the top left corner of the game ?

spring hollow
#

it the one that holds the record of the biggest cashprize so far but it has been outclassed by LoL and Fortnite a while ago šŸ™‚

dapper oar
#

I like to watch all of these mega successful games and I can see what each of them dose to make there ecosystems work and make the games keep growing, I'm not interested in being salty or small issues I'm interested in seeing the big picture and development of Esports and Dota2 is one of if not the best example in the industry of the development of esports.

hybrid finch
azure narwhal
lusty mantle
gilded path
#

i just remembered interoperable characters has been done before....by nintendo

dapper oar
#

Lets watch and learn so we can get a very big peace of Esports pie as it will be bigger then conventional spots in our life time...

gritty osprey
#

btw, is it possible if I want to download the version of windows to play on another laptop?

#

because i only see download for macos...

red geyser
#

The site knows what device you are using.

#

When on your windows machine it should let you download the windows version.

lusty mantle
#

These machines man, they know everything

gritty osprey
#

ow nice

#

thank you guys

sage falcon
#

FRAGLET

#

Fra G L eT

#

say it the way I wrote it in your head

red geyser
sage falcon
gilded path
#

it makes sense i think

lusty mantle
timber torrent
#

she seems like a challange to me šŸ˜‰

#

but her twitter post was a work of art to say the least šŸ’Ŗ

red geyser
#

Oh COMMAS were needed

sage falcon
sage falcon
sage falcon
lusty mantle
woeful shale
#

Bra still no release date on Illuvium zero alpha

agile tapir
lusty mantle
agile tapir
#

Just fainted from the discussion lol. The chat has been going off the rails past few days

simple patrol
lusty mantle
lusty mantle
agile tapir
simple patrol
#

Funny how I get blamed yet I hadn’t even said anything yet..

lusty mantle
#

I can't blame myself

simple patrol
#

Of course not. That would be ridiculous

#

Blame figment.

lusty mantle
#

Frikking Figment

timber torrent
#

figment is now forever "Filament" in my eyes .....lol

agile tapir
#

must have been a figment of your imagination

lusty citrus
azure narwhal
#

I’m not even here and I’m getting blamed 😭

simple patrol
azure narwhal
#

Way to warm my heart

#

general turning in to positive vibes or what

simple patrol
#

Slap with one hand and hug with the other

azure narwhal
simple patrol
lusty mantle
simple patrol
simple patrol
lusty mantle
simple patrol
#

Poor snail. They can’t handle salt

lusty citrus
lusty mantle
#

Don't know who made this, we should have a talk with that person

simple patrol
#

It’s sad

lusty citrus
#

Kieran and TSG on Twitter should be interesting šŸ¤” wonder what they'll be talking about

lusty mantle
#

Hmmm I don't think I can join that one. Got degen business to attend

lusty mantle
#

No

lusty citrus
#

Is it a gaming or NFT project?

lusty mantle
viral notch
#

Sup

remote cedar
thin breach
#

Yay, got my email for PB2 😁

remote cedar
#

Congrats!

simple patrol
thin breach
thin elbow
#

šŸ˜” just 28 šŸ”„
Guys have a Look at the pinned messages

azure narwhal
#

Follow Chris on Twitter y’all please

#

No more Kieran trivia

simple patrol
#

Follow Chris and you could get open world beta.

azure narwhal
#

This is also true

#

You could

#

Not confirmed or anything but you could

simple patrol
#

Plus he’s a star

#

Confirmed

remote cedar
#

Overworld, open world sounds like open beta

narrow plank
#

gm all

spring hollow
ancient canopy
#

Colleagues. good day! can you tell me the approximate release date of the game?

remote cedar
tender kraken
# ancient canopy Colleagues. good day! can you tell me the approximate release date of the game?

There is no official timeline. The closest you will get to that is Kieran confirming that the game will definitely be out by the end of next year, in a recent AMA. He has made too optimistic forecasts in the past, but you could tell this comment was clearly different. End of 2023 was so far beyond what was expected that he felt safe in confirming it.

Personally I’m expecting a launch of open beta in roughly 6 months. That’s just my personal thought. šŸ™‚

agile tapir
azure narwhal
#

Russia jokes

stray burrow
#

Gm

#

Got the betaAtlas_Love

viral notch
#

what is happenin

#

any spicy news

azure narwhal
#

Fucking hell trivia is in 5 hours good lord

#

Goodnight everyone

normal python
stray burrow
#

A question… where can i study illuviatars, elementi and other else of the arena?

viscid trout
#

LFG my bulldogs jersey has been shipped!

thin elbow
viral notch
#

oh trivia game for pb2 access, u guys enjoy i already have pb2 Atlas_Dead

agile tapir
#

@clever kettle

lusty mantle
agile tapir
#

GM Fraggy

remote cedar
lusty mantle
onyx hatch
viral notch
agile tapir
lusty mantle
#

Cooooffffffeeeeeeeeeeee

remote cedar
#

Mooooore cooffeeeee

stable jasper
#

ive been trying to learn TFT ... not doing so well šŸ˜…

quartz warren
#

good day fam

lusty mantle
stable jasper
stray burrow
#

Thx mates @normal python @thin elbow

agile tapir
lusty mantle
late crystal
#

pls give me the illuvium release now 🐄

remote cedar
#

Releasing.... OK

#

Done

wary remnant
#

Hello

warm lantern
tardy horizon
warm lantern
#

Hyper is very useless atm tbh

#

Other things are more important, might wanna pay attention to it early/midgame, but lategame there is always other stuff that is more relevant

lusty mantle
#

Time for another coffee? I think so

alpine mica
#

Coffee and beta pairs very well

lusty mantle
#

It's just coffee without beta

merry sundial
#

If I am in PB1 do I have to sign up again for the other games or is it a list that will go on for the other games ?

tardy horizon
ripe geode
merry sundial
#

ok thx

stable jasper
merry sundial
ripe geode
timber torrent
#

Ive booked my one way ticket from chris@illuvium or whatever his twitter handle is ......lol

warm lantern
agile tapir
warm lantern
#

Namechange wen

warm lantern
sharp kestrel
#

Can I install and play the beta on 2 Laptops? I've got 2 times the same Laptop. One is for at home and one is for the office.

I figuerd I could play at home and sometimes when I've got a break 🤣

royal path
#

hi

lusty mantle
severe pumice
#

gm

lusty mantle
severe pumice
#

good ty, one more working day left in the week, cant wait!

#

how have you been?

lusty mantle
#

Too much coffee, my head hurts šŸ˜…

severe pumice
#

loll i feel that!

#

gotta hydrate after all that coffee

#

h2o is the way to go

humble trail
#

Good morning

severe pumice
cursive sphinx
#

gm fammmmm

lusty mantle
humble trail
# severe pumice sup garf

I almost finished a chinese E-sports drama series (Kings avatar) on netflix last night. But at what cost. 🤣
Its not often that i stay up past 6. Idk how people stream 24 hours. I have a newfound respect for @split lintel and all other streamers šŸ™

severe pumice
#

yeah, not easy putting yourself out there

humble trail
lusty mantle
#

No more coffee pls kek

near pier
#

Mmm coffee

lusty mantle
#

gm Rich

viral notch
#

im drinking coffee rn

#

its my 3rd

near pier
lusty mantle
#

Bye Rich

thin elbow
#

someone in here working with blender and knows if the "noise texture mode" got replaced with somethin else?

quasi delta
#

now we can play beta?

#

if reiceve a mail?

lusty mantle
#

Yes

thin elbow
lusty mantle
quick spindle
#

But I believe it’s a tool people use to build/develop models for games or stuff online? Like a photoshop type thing?

lusty mantle
#

No idea

hollow flax
#

Id like a banana smoothy thanks

quick spindle
#

I probably my shouldn’t try answering that sort of thing first thing in the morning

quick spindle
thick cedar
#

GM rangers

quick spindle
thick cedar
#

Keep missing the trivia’s šŸ˜”

lusty mantle
#

Haha gm Remi

quick spindle
#

It’s in 2 hours šŸ˜‰

thick cedar
lusty mantle
#

Oh yes, Trivia in 2h

#

Sigh, busy day again

#

So funny when Remi gets modded

quick spindle
#

I just love GIFs so much and DynoBot is jealous of that love

vast spear
#

Gm trivia soon šŸ˜„

lusty mantle
#

Wen infoluvial ban from Trivia

humble trail
#

Wen fraggy ban from the discord

lusty mantle
vast spear
#

Ask the real question.

lusty mantle
quick spindle
humble trail
#

These are two things that cant be seperated

cursive sphinx
sonic panther
lusty mantle
#

Been quite busy this week, I won't do good on this trivia

quick spindle
#

I’m up earlier today but I see you there @clever kettle so I may as well send the ping your way

vast spear
#

Study harder, when you want something you can get it!

cursive sphinx
quick spindle
agile tapir
#

@quick spindle ive been waiting for the new sticker 😦

lusty mantle
agile tapir
#

And it came!

quick spindle
cursive sphinx
#

ok

lusty mantle
agile tapir
quick spindle
#

@clever kettle Is this a leak??

agile tapir
#

shia labeouf šŸ‘€

lusty mantle
strong briar
#

PB2 done, ty

vast spear
#

I wonder what stage is this illuvial ?

#

Zula is one of the PoodleMoth line, I think.

humble trail
#

They tend to make emotes about the dtage ones right?

lusty mantle
#

šŸ‘€

clever kettle
quick spindle
#

Okay if it’s poodle moth… it’s not a leak.

clever kettle
#

the name might be a leak but that's it šŸ™‚

quick spindle
#

Just wasn’t sure about the name

#

Yeahhh, okay I see the poodle moth in it now hahah

clever kettle
#

I have some stickers I badly want to add but i won't (they are SO CUTE)

clever kettle
cursive sphinx
clever kettle
#

literally the name of the emote "3am"

lusty mantle
#

But wen emotes

humble trail
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But literally all other emotes so far were from stage ones.

vast spear
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You can share them Jeremy hihihi

quick spindle
# clever kettle poddle moth at 3am XDDD

Love it. It’s usually how I feel/look in the morning. I’ve been posting the good morning cat gif each day, which is also how I feel/look in the morning.

I’ll maybe start switching it up between the two šŸ˜„

vast spear
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yeah, it's stage 1 Garf look at the red on the images.

agile tapir
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I see why its poddle moth. Still a leak woot

vast spear
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where does it was leaked at 1st ?

timber torrent
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Ive missed so much but now i must sleep I have an apointment with the nuns early in the moring

lusty mantle
agile tapir
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We got 2 coffee stickers. One for Kierans late night trivias and one for when we actually get a good nights rest lol

humble trail
agile tapir
timber torrent