#Teardown lag

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hazy shoal
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So, i got
3060 ti
i7-8700
24 ram 2400mhz
and i wanted to verify if it’s normal that i am having such powerful lag, i am experiencing FPS drop after exploding just a few buildings and for example in a mod Morse Longa i am having very powerful FPS drops just after 2-3 map loadings
I feel like i’ve got a very weak ram

shell thicket
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why do you have an 8th gen cpu and 24 gigs of ram

hazy shoal
shell thicket
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did one of your sticks die or something

hazy shoal
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I am almost confident that my RAM is weak, but i want to make sure that the main problem is caused by RAM

true garnet
true garnet
hazy shoal
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Alright, thanks

true garnet
hazy shoal
true garnet
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id say its a cpu issue

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but upgrading it does not make destruction performance better

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hence there is no solution

shell thicket
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Just upgrade the whole pc

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also you want your ram to be a power of 2 or else you don’t get the full amount

true garnet
jaunty otter
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The game lags if lots of stuff is happening.. its how it is.. no matter your specs. Mors longa is almost unplayable at times.
720p, R9, 3080, 16gb

hazy shoal
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There is always a way, i am pretty sure it's not supposed to be that bad.

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Gotta get the RAM and i will see

true garnet
hazy shoal
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Sad

true garnet
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if you look at youtube vids of teardown destruction at 60fps
they’re all recording at like 6fps to 15 fps, then its sped up to 60 fps as a playback recording

true garnet
hazy shoal
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Welp, i talked with a lot of people, still thinking of upgrading my RAM, hopefully, it will be better in Tarkov.

true garnet
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definitely should esp since thats ddr4

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BUT

hazy shoal
true garnet
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you should see the performance improvements from reviews

true garnet
hazy shoal
hazy shoal
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i am having small stutters in multiple games, i suppose it's RAM then

true garnet
pliant apex
true garnet
pliant apex
true garnet
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cuz gpu fitted with custom vram

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we dont talk about gimped gpus

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like 1060 3gb or the likes

pliant apex
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I got 3060 laptop gpu with 6 gig of vram

true garnet
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lets talk in #general-pc

pliant apex
shell thicket
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at least my cpu usage stays below 15 and gpu stays below 30

true garnet
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collision is multithreaded

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alot of things are multithreaded

jaunty otter
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ya, dennis confirmed it on twitter

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it wasn't before

shell thicket
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I could have sworn I read it wasn’t

true garnet
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yea

shell thicket
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why does it only use like 15% cpu then

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when I set off 50 c4 with the structural integrity mod it lags a shit ton and still doesn’t even go above 15

true garnet
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ok low cpu usage is good

shell thicket
true garnet
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teardown has built in recorder

shell thicket
shell thicket
true garnet
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correct

shell thicket
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where are those recordings stored?

true garnet
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dont recall

shell thicket
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I just use the nvidia overlay recorder

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I get like decent fps without the structural integrity

true garnet
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i avoid using structural integrity mod

shell thicket
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why?

true garnet
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things like those giant monsters can shatter

shell thicket
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it looks really cool and makes it more realistic

true garnet
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by walking into something

shell thicket
true garnet
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and seriously lag

shell thicket
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I knocked down an AT AT in one map with it and my fps dropped to like 20

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sometimes causes unnecessary lag

true garnet
shell thicket
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it shouldn’t get used fully?

true garnet
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well it is getting used fully

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imagine it like this

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a gpu needs to be fully used to get the full potential of the perf rendering a game

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but cpu is a headroom

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so using gpu uses x amount

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you need headroom for physics

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background tasks

shell thicket
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yea but like 15% is depressing

true garnet
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being fully utilized eg i3 cpu will be like:
stutters constantly

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3s 21 times

shell thicket
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oh god yeah I had a mac with an i3 9th gen it was sad

true garnet
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this is what a fully utilized cpu looks like

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these stutters are 2s for like 22 times

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  • the 5 s stutter
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gpu cant be utilized because cpu preoccupied,
gpu has to receive render instructions later, or cpu has to wait next cycle

shell thicket
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ok

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but like

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why is my gpu capping at 30

true garnet
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in destruction?

shell thicket
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yea

true garnet
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your cpu is fully utilized

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gpu is idling

shell thicket
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gpu should be doing stuff

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I’m getting 30 fps and my gpu is just chillin in the corner not doing anything

true garnet
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because it has to wait for instructions

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😔

shell thicket
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L gpu

true garnet
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no L cpu

shell thicket
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so my cpu is bottlenecking basically?

true garnet
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yes everyone’s cpu is bottlenecked

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only in destruction

shell thicket
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bruh

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I spent way too much money on my cpu

shell thicket
true garnet
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yes and no

hazy shoal
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OK, actually, these small stutters are quite annoying, i am having these more than several games, must be RAM

true garnet
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can you download HWiNFO64, after setting up, start HWiNFO64, click start

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@hazy shoal

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then screenshot

hazy shoal
true garnet
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just like GTX 10, 16, RTX 20, 30, 40 series

hazy shoal
hazy shoal
true garnet
true garnet
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theres 3, 4, and 5

hazy shoal
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Oh, i mistaken it with something else, nevermind

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@true garnet

true garnet
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awesome

hazy shoal
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Is it bad

true garnet
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yea unfortunately the ram is slow

hazy shoal
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Why is it working just 1200?

true garnet
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because thats the "actual speed"

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but ram runs at double that speed

hazy shoal
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So, wait, if i buy a 3200mhz ram i get only 2400?

true garnet
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so you double it

hazy shoal
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Didn't really get it

true garnet
hazy shoal
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XMP profile...

true garnet
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for mine, it defaults at 4800Mhz

hazy shoal
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Do i just turn it on and everything be good

true garnet
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so I enable the xmp profile

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and it will most likely run at the factory design speed

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which mine runs at 6400Mhz

true garnet
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then when you check hwinfo64

hazy shoal
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Does B360M-A even have XMP profile, gotta check

true garnet
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you can see the ram speed change

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intel cpu will

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wait that I gotta fill that info

hazy shoal
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I guess it has XMP, but how do i turn it on

true garnet
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you need to restart the pc

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and at the bottom of the screen will say
press <key> to enter BIOS

hazy shoal
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I know that, so the XMP is in the obvious spot?

true garnet
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depends

hazy shoal
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It's called XMP profile on every motherboard?

true garnet
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you need to look at your motherboard manual

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yes for intel cpu only

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for amd its called expo profile

hazy shoal
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Alright, i will try, RIP if my PC die

true garnet
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if it doesnt turn on, then the cpu just doesnt like the ram speed

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then you tune it down until its stable

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whatever indicated on Intel site, is just a "safe guarantee" that ram speed will run

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going higher isnt going to kill anything

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just becomes unstab;e

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like mine

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1.2Ghz over the stated ram speed

hazy shoal
true garnet
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like profile 1

hazy shoal
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Oh, i didn't check

true garnet
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cxan you take a photo

hazy shoal
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I can show you a video

true garnet
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ssure

hazy shoal
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Can i call you?

true garnet
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no

hazy shoal
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well, i will just search for it then, i will be back

true garnet
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use your phone

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or use google

hazy shoal
hazy shoal
true garnet
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because you can use your phone to take photos

hazy shoal
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ok

true garnet
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im not inclined for a video chat

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can you do that now?

hazy shoal
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I just wanted to show you the BIOS with the video and you could just write

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Ok, i will send a photo.

true garnet
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or

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you could've read your manual

hazy shoal
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@true garnet

true garnet
hazy shoal
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there is only disable

true garnet
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you need to go to F7

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advanced mode

hazy shoal
true garnet
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then go Ai Tweaker

hazy shoal
true garnet
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then select Ai Overclock Tuner

true garnet
hazy shoal
true garnet
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mm

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whats your motherboard again

hazy shoal
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i found something

IMG_0175.jpg
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b360m-a

true garnet
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full mobo name

true garnet
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can you take a clearer photo

hazy shoal
true garnet
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its blurry

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focus on the screen

hazy shoal
true garnet
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and your full motherboard name?

hazy shoal
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@true garnet

true garnet
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anyways I found it

true garnet
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I think yours is designed to run at 2400Mhz CL17

hazy shoal
hazy shoal
true garnet
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no

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it is running at 2400Mhz

shell thicket
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are you just overclocking the ram?

true garnet
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no

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Theo you might have the better luck

hazy shoal
true garnet
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yes?

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hwinfo64 reports HALF of your ram

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because

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DDR stands for Double Data Rate

hazy shoal
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so, only new motherboard and ram can help

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thanks anyway

true garnet
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why not just save up

shell thicket
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I found a motherboard in my neighbors house

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it was inside a metal box with a glass window and some rainbow lights

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just look in someone’s house for one of those boxes

hazy shoal
true garnet
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8th gen was 5 gens ago

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its gonna become 6 gen this sept

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and 7 next year or 2 years later

hazy shoal
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:(

shell thicket
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what gen are we on now, 14?

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nvm I think it’s 13

true garnet
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yes 13]

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I need a newer cpu >.>

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cuz no headroom

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then my i5-13600KF I can give to parents or sibling

lucid sparrow
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that sounds like skill isssue

true garnet
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now if you have any comments, this isnt the place to talk

lucid sparrow
true garnet
hazy shoal
shell thicket
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on god my friend used to say that to everything anyone said

lucid sparrow