#WORKSHOP REPORTING

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regal kernel
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And if that rule as what danny said then we would lose a lot of good maps

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Such as mini new york and NGNT Nuclear Facility and a lot more

placid robin
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I feel like if you ban that map then you need to ban anything with the twin tower

regal kernel
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or like berlin wall

placid robin
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True

bleak quail
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i do believe he's just translating like asked

arctic girder
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ah

regal kernel
regal kernel
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@foggy spire do you have any updates on when these maps will be deleted? and with the extra the chase map.

bleak quail
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why do you care so much

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snitchin like you watched a murder take place or something

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they're not even dlc maps they're base game content

vale fractal
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Well they are deleted I was looking for new maps and refreshed the page and those reported maps got wiped out

lost tusk
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It's a map Crocus City Hall in tragedy

placid robin
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Are you going to ban all 911 maps then

wicked depot
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I think there are more than 911 maps on the workshop

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couple thousand of them

placid robin
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I’m talking about 911 as in when 2 planes flew into the wtc

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I should have said twin towers but it’s still a good point

wicked depot
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I looked up 911 and it's only showing me pictures of porsches

whole sun
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there needs to be a slash

wicked depot
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woah...

whole sun
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yeah....

nocturne obsidian
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Dude wtf

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When did this happen

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I never heard about this...

whole sun
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💀

nocturne obsidian
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Ohhh righttt that thing I forgot about it

plush delta
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bruh

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every teardown mod is a 9/11 mod lmao

nocturne obsidian
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it's great

plush delta
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nawwww

whole sun
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dude what

languid olive
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😒

nocturne obsidian
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what can be done with this engine. these kids are super creative

nocturne obsidian
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it's the pinnacle of what this game has to offer

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i remember when dennis said "i'm making modding support so that little slop children can recreate 9/11 and wars and stuff it'll be really cool"

whole sun
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lol

placid robin
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I don’t support the wtc maps but I’m just saying if you ban the crocus map then you need to ban every map that resembles a place where a terror attack happened

languid olive
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looking into the rest

regal kernel
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Ok

narrow basalt
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Exeros is a good guy

arctic girder
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their workshop mods in general are uhh

regal kernel
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Oh hell naw

narrow basalt
narrow basalt
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Hard to play with coffee in one hand

bleak quail
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shit been up for months

arctic girder
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@languid olive please delete this

bleak quail
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oh nvm it has been reported before and it was ok then

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oh i know why it was immediately overshadowed

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it came just before the nationalist frustrum incident of 2024

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frustum goin through it prayers to the local population

mortal willow
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Only OGs remember nationalist Cullington too

whole sun
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whats wrong with this one?

woeful ether
whole sun
languid olive
woeful ether
languid olive
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Thats for reactions to posts

whole sun
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like discord emojis

woeful ether
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Oh...

languid olive
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#rules-and-info message

whole sun
languid olive
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rules for the workshop start at rule 17

whole sun
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also just saying if politics were a workshop rule so many mods would get deleted

woeful ether
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Okay, then, ignoring the Democracy mod

languid olive
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the other one is moderated already

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by steam themself

bleak quail
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its 6 voxels emitting particles

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me personally im just waiting for the postal 2 edition of the mod

regal kernel
arctic girder
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yes?

regal kernel
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ah

onyx raft
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wats wrong with pills?

regal kernel
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if they were like dugs

arctic girder
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firstly not all pills are drugs secondly bluetide is called steroids in the game files and is implied to have drugs in it

regal kernel
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ah

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wait isnt blue tide just a energy drink?

onyx raft
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amantides gets in trouble cus he put drugs in blue tide

regal kernel
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right..

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hang on

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isnt this the map that the devs made? i found one on the workshop but the uploader edited it a bit

placid robin
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Iirc I think it’s okay because they edited it? But that topic seems to have pretty bipolar moderation

mortal willow
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These are edits of the maps given to us by the devs so these are fine

lean hawk
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These are so dumb though

hearty escarp
onyx raft
hearty escarp
mortal willow
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Im actually tweaking looking at this car

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Why is it so smooth

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Its super well made but WHY would you do that

woeful ether
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My first maps was... Default map with no changes.

lean hawk
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Still though

vale fractal
vale fractal
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I'm guessing it's not possible to ban someone from commenting on the workshop

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(Referring to BenPoo)

onyx raft
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hero brian

narrow basalt
hearty escarp
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Actually ban him from teardown itself

languid olive
hearty escarp
narrow basalt
languid olive
narrow basalt
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Also viable!

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Valve does take action against comments that break the general Steam community guidelines, more so with the introduction of paid moderators while phasing out volunteers

vale fractal
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Actually wait I forgot that these maps can be on the workshop now.

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Oh well still come look at this upload that dosen't do anything new

mortal willow
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Snowy Quilez flashbacks

royal notch
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someone really stole my mod

regal kernel
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they always do that

covert holly
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I hate mathijnhaat?

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Quote of the year

ivory veldt
tribal heron
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I agree!

ivory veldt
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Also mb just realized I put the mods in reverse

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meant to put the original first

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well either way, the one with "Patched" in the title is indeed the copied mod.

dim trail
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crazy

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one mod got reported 3 times in the span of 3 days

placid robin
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and it still didnt get taken down

pulsar leaf
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lol

dim trail
dim trail
vale fractal
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And get this, it's still up

languid olive
azure elbow
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Basically 99% Copied, a few things changed including using our own intellectual property. (Added a few cars, some of those were part of our original mod)
Apart from that, basically our mod

placid robin
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i think the title speaks for itself

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havent seen what the mod actually is though

languid olive
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i aint getting enough money to deal with this!

whole sun
woeful ether
vale fractal
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Something about certain dev made maps aren't allowed to be reuploaded to the workshop, most of them eventually where made to be publicly copied but the flooded one wasn't

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However this one seems to be a recreation and not the actual dev made flooded map

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So I don't know where a user made recreation like that lies in

lean hawk
mortal willow
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Recreations should be fine

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A complete reupload of a decompile is where the problem is

regal kernel
covert holly
regal kernel
covert holly
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good 👍

regal kernel
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@languid olive i will dm you a video of what is inside the map

regal kernel
woven bronze
regal kernel
hearty escarp
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didnt even remove the watermark lol

foggy spire
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Should be up to date!

pearl crater
woeful ether
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Also, maybe we should remove the unnamed mods?

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(ignore the parachute mod)

vale fractal
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I can't find where to access TD's workshop guidelines to double check if anything has changed from when I last remembered it all so as far as I know low-effort mods while annoying don't really go agianst the guidelines unless they have something for spam there's not much that can be done with mod name here stuff. Same goes for Flooded Frustrum while all they did was add a water layer, there's not really anything agians the guidelines for it.

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It used to be agianst the rules to copy dev maps but they have since made them copy able so they're no longer agianst the rules either

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The wooden towers map don't seem to imply they were made specifically for 9/11 recreations and seem to be more of the many general dynamic tower destruction maps.

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Don't think swearing against the rules either? So long it's not hate speech

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Mini gun is rulebreaking for being a stolen mod so that one can definitely be taken down.

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For the keyboard smash title mod same goes with what I said about mod name here, there's no rules agianst low effort afaik

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And idk for the kill them one at all. Probably is, probably isn't. Can't really be sure because I forgot how to access the guidelines.

pearl crater
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not will but they said somewhere here they may

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that they want to adress it

hearty escarp
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“Mommy says no cuss words”

woeful ether
# hearty escarp “Mommy says no cuss words”

"Be respectful and treat all members with kindness. Harassment, discrimination, bullying, and hate speech will not be tolerated. Provide constructive feedback." - Teardown Discord Server Rules

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#rules-and-info message You can see it right here.

regal kernel
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That one is fine theres so many of them like the new york map

woeful ether
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Okay.

vale fractal
woeful ether
vale fractal
woeful ether
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Bro, have you seen the rules?

vale fractal
woeful ether
vale fractal
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THATS LITERALLY WHAT I BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU

vale fractal
woeful ether
vale fractal
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Top 10 Discord Crashouts, at number 5, me.

woeful ether
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lmao

vale fractal
# woeful ether Okay then.

Sorry for calling you stupid btw. I get more irritated when I have a fever especially when its the third time in the row this month, I'm tired of coughing up mucus..nothing to do with you

vale fractal
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Okay

woeful ether
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Can a mod have a mention/spawn of Hitler? (No, i do not supporting the nazis.)

placid robin
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I think so

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I think there is a ragdoll mod with hitler in it

tardy matrix
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is the ability to read mod a virus?

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Some of the people in the comments says that it's a virus.

onyx raft
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no its not

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steam comments really think everything is a virus

vale fractal
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Ability to read is just a thing that tells people to read the description because people don't when valuable information on how the mod works is included in the description

placid robin
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yeah ability to read isnt

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i dont even know if the china lake i posted really is a virus but the made it seem that way and its his only mod

lunar plaza
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tested and no
they are not censored in game

winter veldt
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sorry what

buoyant sundial
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@pallid yacht Can you handle this?

lunar plaza
whole iris
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😭

winter veldt
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no cap i threw up

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almost

lunar plaza
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im not scared of women but im scared of someone who spend their time to make that

winter veldt
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im scared of both

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😭

lunar plaza
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😭

winter veldt
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can you swear in here

lunar plaza
tardy matrix
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tf is this

winter veldt
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ITS GONE

tardy matrix
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who made the mod

winter veldt
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idk

eager sinew
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black market teardown mods bro

winter veldt
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anybody seen humans test map?

regal kernel
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YO WHAT THE

lunar plaza
regal kernel
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Did you check that

lunar plaza
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i can try to find him

regal kernel
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Do it

regal kernel
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Of course someone from Kazakhstan would do that

lunar plaza
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yeh :/

woeful ether
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Atleast not a russian guy.

whole iris
woeful ether
tired briar
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When will mod pack 4 be released?

lean hawk
mortal willow
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1/5 implies he’s gonna post the other DLCs

narrow basalt
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Yes, not a good sign.

whole sun
lean hawk
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It's possible to ban someone from posting on the workshop, right?

narrow basalt
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Yes.

lean hawk
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All this dude does is to repost stuff. Either DLCs or other mods :/

regal kernel
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is this against za rules?

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i think yes

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or wait hang on

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that person made it so that you need dlc

chrome ridge
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that thing essentially same as "I agree to T&C" which prevents nothing

narrow basalt
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It's more of a notice for users that the mod might not work without DLC ownership. :p

silent sluice
whole iris
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atleast as far as I see...

foggy shore
languid olive
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i think they are talking about whatever is in the photo

whole iris
whole iris
whole iris
foggy shore
whole iris
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the initial part is just steam security but after that it gave all the weird % stuff

whole iris
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better safe than sorry when stuff looks like this 😭

foggy shore
woeful ether
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Guys, chill it's link for telegram channel (telegram is russian messanger)

pulsar leaf
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entire thing was satire mate

frank gust
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But like.. why are they even a thing
I get its satire but all it does is add more crap to the workshop bigtear

weary escarp
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someone should make a mod telling people to stop making these

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stop "stop slop" slop

nocturne obsidian
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Remove modding

uneven stump
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this is literally just my mod but reuploaded

dusty kraken
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try? u turkish??

dusty kraken
celest garnet
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is it possible to ban someone for their steam username

robust condor
celest garnet
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was wondering becuse i saw a guy on steam with a really bad username and after checking out his mods it seems alot worse than just the username

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i dont recommend anyone play this it has like an actual real life gore image

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censored the image obviously spoiler becuse swastika

nocturne obsidian
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Damn Teardown really attracts these types a lot lol

foggy spire
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Thank you

robust condor
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well there are some original things in here

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"small creators" and all he does is slap a few ragdolls and reupload the whole mod without permission

hearty escarp
woeful ether
woeful ether
woeful ether
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(sorry for pings)

vale fractal
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I never understood these because you can just use the spawn menu to put ragdolls anywhere you like on any map. Takes like what? A few minutes of your time?

frail stratus
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yeah

woeful ether
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bro what

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should we ban this?

vale fractal
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Tempted to download and see what is there. Probably a blank map

dusky wolf
regal kernel
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We cant ping workshop mods it seems like

regal kernel
woeful ether
regal kernel
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these are the only tags

woeful ether
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i am talking about this thing

regal kernel
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not sure what you mean

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Because the only tags teardown has are the ones i showed

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Steam doesnt have any Tags that they will auto add

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its up to the devs of the game if they want a new tag.

woeful ether
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I was talking about this, the CONTENT DESCRIPTORS (i took for example an nsfw mod)

regal kernel
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never seen that.

dusky wolf
robust condor
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Or dima’s

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Actually idk if dima was who made what im thinking about

whole iris
vale fractal
robust condor
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there should be a workshop moderator role

woeful ether
whole iris
hearty escarp
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We need volunteer workshop mods

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No wait that would stop teardown from making money

robust condor
hearty escarp
robust condor
hearty escarp
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Uhh

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Yeah imma just call it im in the wrong 💔

mortal willow
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Is this allowed man 😭

regal kernel
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a map called WWII-Battle Of Berlin

mortal willow
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This one has flags

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If you know what I mean

regal kernel
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oh

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Welllll

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Not sure about that

foggy spire
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I need to catch up on these reports

whole sun
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Like aren't they based off this

mortal willow
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ya

final mango
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I know a fun little mod for some1 to make

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A gun that can can select every loose object and put in in a special spawn menu so u can aim at a car thats not in a spawn menu but if u shoot it you can spawn what u want, i call it: the spawnizer

regal kernel
final mango
rare perch
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Snitches

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Ong

dry aspen
mortal willow
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What is wrong with people 😭

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Gun addicts will always confuse me

devout coral
robust condor
bleak quail
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that is the wikipedia photo for the tec-9

bleak quail
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honestly the rest of them would be innocent if he didn't ADMIT WHAT HE WAS DOING

bleak quail
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true!

hearty escarp
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I liked that map

hearty escarp
swift forge
regal kernel
swift forge
# rare perch Snitches

Didn't see this comment before, but we’re genuinely grateful to the community members who report rule-breaking mods. Without their help the workshop would be a far more chaotic. I’ve personally come across mods on the workshop that absolutely no one should have to see and it’s only thanks to users reporting them that we’re able to locate and remove that content.

regal kernel
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one thing tho it would be a really good thing if like the menu where you upload the mods would say like you need to have a image before you can upload it so that its not just the teardown logo and the "mod name here"

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since theres a lot of them with just the name mod name here and the teardown logo

swift forge
regal kernel
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Yeah lets hope after MP some of the team can work on bugs for MP and the Game menu to polish it and that and normal game bugs

swift forge
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Hopefully after mp, our devs will have more time to look at updating things like that.

regal kernel
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Yeah

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Maybe a way to like view workshop items in the Game menu and in that menu you can like report a item with reason and then a discord bot would send that in this forum

rare perch
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Especially for devs who are having content stolen

regal kernel
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the thing is tho a lot of those youtube/tiktok teardown videos where theres like a minecraft thing like steve being hit a lot of those mods are paid but not on the workshop im pretty sure

whole sun
swift forge
regal kernel
robust condor
swift forge
# robust condor How’s that coming along?

I have already spoken to this person and checked with several of the original creators and they confirmed it was fine. The thumbnails are a separate matter and I am working with him on that.

deft creek
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What about the mods that were all converted into multiplayer versions and uploaded without asking the original creators?

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They were basically copied.

regal kernel
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yeah there a lot of em

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only thing changed is the script

foggy spire
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If requested, I will take them down. I have a feeling most of them will be once multiplayer is out of beta anyways.

sweet dragon
foggy spire
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Will grab it for you

warm topaz
mortal willow
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Person named 'Floppicus' blatently re-uploading many popular mods lol

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Oh they're MP ports

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😅 ignore, if it's ok

pulsar leaf
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it should count as stealing if they're reuploading without permission

regal kernel
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@foggy spire help

storm epoch
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@pallid yacht

foggy spire
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Got em thank you

whole sun
woeful ether
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can you put it in spoiler/delete?

celest garnet
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everything revolver copy

whole sun
elder bolt
hushed vault
robust condor
hushed vault
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Yup, forgot to add that

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💀

celest garnet
regal kernel
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@foggy spire

robust condor
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also why did he put so much effort into the images

solar owl
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Somebody published my mod a second time... <@&760106293926297640>

heavy anvil
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Also I am still very confused why this channel exists

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Is steam moderation not enough

solar owl
heavy anvil
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Really the only thing steam doesn’t moderate is copied mods since they expect you to use DMCA which is more complicated then just sending it here

solar owl
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Look at the profiles

heavy anvil
solar owl
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many of them are weird

solar owl
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😂

heavy anvil
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And only the creator can do that

solar owl
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ok

heavy anvil
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Steam only allows NSFW (nudity) when it has the proper tags and doesn’t allow it to be on any of the images in the case of workshop content

heavy anvil
# solar owl Not only NSFW

You aren’t being very descriptive so I don’t know what you are trying to describe. But if it’s that bad then report it on steam and if it actually breaks the rules they’ll moderate it within a week or so

solar owl
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And this Topic is about WORKSHOP REPORTING

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so we should stop

heavy anvil
# solar owl And this Topic is about WORKSHOP REPORTING

And I made a comment about how this channel seems pretty pointless since steam moderates it perfectly fine minus the complicated mod copying stuff. I see no point in moderating NSFW content since you cannot see said content unless you subscribe to the mod and have NSFW turned on in preferences (unless it is breaking steam rules of not having NSFW content in promo material or not properly tagged)

regal kernel
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All russian too

heavy anvil
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why wont it imbed

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anyways, is this allowed?

hushed vault
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I'm assuming embeds were disabled, since some of these workshop items have nsfw thumbnails a lot of the time

heavy anvil
hushed vault
regal kernel
tawdry lodge
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it became extremely popular lol

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makes sense though

solar owl
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mod stealer XD

hushed vault
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Posting pirated music via mods

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One user, this user it seems ^^^

heavy anvil
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Honestly ehhhhhhhh

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Also that’s something that steam needs to moderate

robust condor
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such an odd way to pirate music

swift forge
solar owl
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I saw

coral garden
# solar owl mod stealer XD

That was me, I apologize to all of the creators, these mods weren't supposed to be uploaded as public, I uploaded more mods as friends-only to play modified mods with my friends only, actually. These mods on screenshot supposed to be friends-only as well I just forgot to set them so.
I did chat already with BudTerenceStudios about his mod and the situation, apologized to him as well.

So anyone here wondering why am I so stupid shameless stealer: that's why - I made it by mistake and I'm sorry as hell
Hope no one's hurt by my actions

Anyone who sees his mod please dm me as well:)
Next time I'm going to ask the creator to reupload even to frineds-only their mods as well

solar owl
empty cove
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You’r access to cornflakes has been banned

vale fractal
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Also this guy's profile can't tell if its actually making fun of furries or they just really into the fandom

mortal willow
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Furry trash usually means they’re part of the fandom

robust condor
vale fractal
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Ah alright

frank gust
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@buoyant sundial I tried deleting the masked link but it won't let me
-# got the automod warning, so tried to delete so I didn't get another lol but it won't go away

placid robin
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whats the rule on people reuploading others mods with mp compatibility?

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like this one, its another persons map with mp compatibility but i dont think the author of this one made any real changes besides that

narrow basalt
# vale fractal Ah alright

Don't worry, there is nothing in the rules prohibiting you from publicly being part of a certain fandom unless it is clearly NSFW. (Adult-only content, 18+). :)

dawn holly
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Now who the hell star reacted to this

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Why did i get a notification

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Ts 3 years ago bruh

regal kernel
wispy terrace
regal kernel
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Steam has bad support for workshop they havent done anything

frank gust
tawdry lodge
frank gust
tawdry lodge
hushed vault
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I have no clue why, but istg that I read this last few messages in a dream before

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Ima losing me marbles 9459alienconfused

heavy anvil
frank gust
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Lowkey when I first saw it just seemed like another spam upload so I memed it here lol

narrow basalt
frank gust
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Ohh I gotcha nod
Apologies Buttersshy

tidal axle
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This was reuploaded without the original devs permission. The reupload has nothing different, and doesnt even work, and has not taken it down even after I asked him to nicely in the comments of it

thorny spoke
golden bay
hushed vault
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Same guy again

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Stolen^^^^

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their usertag is "yarmoua"

regal kernel
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its like a little more damage to player

sudden rapids
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Does just tweaking a few numbers in a script really count as a new creation? Well, I’ll wait for Danny’s decision on that

regal kernel
regal kernel
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Maybe add like in the dep of the mod To not reupload it or edit it i dont know if that helps but ye

wispy terrace
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Is taking a mod of someone else’s and making it mp considered “stealing”?

heavy anvil
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#forwardcompatibilityisforlosers

narrow basalt
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If they aren't, i would say it's fine to uploading your own MP version.

deep current
tardy matrix
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this guy is reposting already mp maps/tools

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and reposting my friends maps too

hushed vault
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Jeez

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He’s also slapping his name on it too it seems

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Shameless, huh

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HE’S STOLEN 44 MODS????!!!

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THATS INSANE

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@swift forge
I feel this may be a pingable offense 😭🥀

tardy matrix
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he literally named one "trust turtlebravo85's armored vehicles" lmao

hushed vault
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Yeah, this is a new low

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Lol

regal kernel
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Damn

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thats just stealing

swift forge
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I'll take a look as soon as I have some time free. 🫡

regal kernel
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if he keeps doing that

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i think workshop ban ngl

swift forge
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Will check it out first, but I'm in the middle of something right now.

regal kernel
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ye ye take your time

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no stress

pearl crater
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i rather take workshop full of AI mods than one full of stolen work

plain kite
swift forge
swift forge
sudden rapids
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Thank you!

hushed vault
muted laurel
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then I'll have something to get up to

quaint prism
quaint prism
chrome ridge
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bro is an innocent coughing baby

narrow basalt
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Danny does a lot more than just take care of discord/workshop related issues.

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If they're active on discord, you can always let one of the workshop know.

As of writing this message, Flo and KillzBob are active.

hushed vault
swift forge
# regal kernel I think danny forgot

Not forgotten at all. We’re currently discussing how to handle cases like this on the Workshop, including what we can and can’t act on. A direct copy or reupload of another creator’s mod is straightforward to remove but modified versions are more complex. I’ll be taking a closer look at this today and possibly tomorrow as well to figure out the best way to approach situations like this going forward.

regal kernel
# swift forge Not forgotten at all. We’re currently discussing how to handle cases like this o...

Steam does have its own report system where a person that has a mod can report to steam because its a reupload or modified however that does take longer than asking like a workshop moderator here because steam report is a long waiting thing because valve checks all the codes and everything

And im pretty sure that maps and mods can only use assets or reupload or modified if they have permission from the original creator or if it is stated in the Description

So pretty much

Reuploading: Is like taking a photo someone else took and posting it as your own.

​Modifying: Is like taking someone else's painting, drawing a mustache on it, and claiming you painted the whole thing.

​Using Assets: Is like taking a chapter out of someone else's book and putting it in yours.

According to steam and these are

Steam Subscriber Agreement (Section 6: User Generated Content)

Steam Online Conduct: "Intellectual Property Rights"

"Derivative Works" (Copyright Law)

Game-Specific "Workshop Rules"

So without written permission or something like that they cannot reupload or modified or use the assets

The best way i think is to tell the person to remove it if they dont i guess it gets removed by moderator

sleek zodiac
swift forge
sleek zodiac
regal kernel
storm epoch
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pretty sure

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little fish upload it in 2022

sleek zodiac
storm epoch
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anyways

sleek zodiac
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By the way I had testers, and they witnessed the entire development process from the start.

storm epoch
sleek zodiac
regal kernel
robust condor
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Oh sorry you already said that

regal kernel
robust condor
sleek zodiac
regal kernel
robust condor
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But paid mods suck in general

sleek zodiac
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In short, I think my mod will come back.

chrome ridge
sleek zodiac
# chrome ridge bro you said you developed it so what does `newproxy()` do

newproxy() is a function that creates a new proxy object
It allows you to create objects with custom behavior
Proxies can intercept operations like property access, assignment, and method calls
This is useful for creating flexible and reusable code structures
The proxy can delegate operations to a target object or handle them differently
Common use cases include logging, validation, and access control

chrome ridge
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did you grok-ed that out?

regal kernel
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seems like it

chrome ridge
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how does logging work under the scope of Teardown modding?

storm epoch
sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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newproxy() is a Lua function

chrome ridge
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also

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bro is probably beating Claude hard now

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rip Claude

sleek zodiac
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Claude finally writed to me, wait a second.

chrome ridge
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bro you said you developed it yourself yet you still need to ask Claude?

chrome ridge
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I hope so

sleek zodiac
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To be completely honest, I used AI while writing the code. I know some might criticize this or call it 'AI slop,' but I did use it. That said, I actually have a solid foundation in Lua because I studied it in the past. The reason the text appears to be AI-generated is that I used an AI tool to translate my thoughts into English. I wanted to be upfront about my process.

chrome ridge
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yea but the question is

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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but you said this

chrome ridge
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how could AI write it without knowing it

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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translate?

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as in translate lua code?

sleek zodiac
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Translate Turkish to Engilish

chrome ridge
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oh so you mean you're using ai to help you understand what the API is about?

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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then how did you made the mod without knowing Teardown API?

chrome ridge
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so you vibe coded a mod basically

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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ok

regal kernel
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And you are making money from it?

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thats crazy

sleek zodiac
sleek zodiac
regal kernel
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you cant copyright AI code

chrome ridge
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then who is your beta tester

sleek zodiac
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wait

sleek zodiac
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@thin timber @Reemre ( Not in the server)

storm epoch
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@muted laurel

robust condor
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The contradictions here are crazy

sleek zodiac
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I don't know why we've been dealing with this for so long.

chrome ridge
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it's #1040156752068497418

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we need to be clear about the case

sleek zodiac
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steam will decide on this now anyway.

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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otherwise we can just report everyone

sleek zodiac
robust condor
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It’s always money with ai bros 🙄

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By saying that you’re also basically saying you’re taking advantage of people and deceiving by selling an inferior product that you didn’t even create

robust condor
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Ai ain’t good at code

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Sure it might work sometimes, but it ain’t good

chrome ridge
sleek zodiac
sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
robust condor
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if you’re talking about windows 11, yeah, you can tell it has vibe coding 💀

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As I said

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Might work sometimes, isnt good

sleek zodiac
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can i send a github link here?

chrome ridge
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yea of course

sleek zodiac
sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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right

robust condor
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Oh yeah that crap 😭

chrome ridge
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but we're on #1040156752068497418 not #modding-discussion-offtopic

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so it about the issue with your mod and fish's mod

chrome ridge
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alright my bad

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back to topic

sleek zodiac
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ok

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I can send you proof if you want.

chrome ridge
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yes please

sleek zodiac
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what did you need

chrome ridge
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do you have local timeline of your mod throughout your development?

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like different versions of the mod

sleek zodiac
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Wait i will look to my screenshots

chrome ridge
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not just those published

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cool

sleek zodiac
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We have prior discussions with the tester.

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I'll eat something now, you can examine it.

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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right

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so you editing the options menu here I suppose?

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the screenshot you sent

sleek zodiac
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yes

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i have too many more

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there is a ide screenshot

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did it come? it didnt wait.

chrome ridge
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yea it delivered

sleek zodiac
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oh ok it seems a bug on my discord

chrome ridge
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do you have the workflow for the main script?

sleek zodiac
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no, ide deletes automaticly

chrome ridge
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VS code would always keep such workflow timeline unless the file it's trying to record is too large or user manually deleted

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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I have records form 3 years ago

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cursor?

sleek zodiac
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yeah vibe coding ide

chrome ridge
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oh ok

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cursor is a fork of vs code in recent years so it should have similar features

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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yea

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oh you didn't configure it

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that explains it

sleek zodiac
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wait i will look to cursors logs

chrome ridge
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I see many of your files starts with prefix "slime", is there a reason for that?

sleek zodiac
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slime is a open source teardown thing

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and i saw encrypted transcript on the files

chrome ridge
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what you mean by encrypted transcript?

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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on those slime something files?

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could you show that? since the mod is taken down I don't have a copy or something

sleek zodiac
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wait

#

{\nuser; 2f032ac9119d1f5454e76b44641c6212e112d9a40fa7bdc6ce59ee66a97d5cc3,
agent; 2f032ac9119d1f5454e76b44641c6212e112d9a40fa7bdc6ce59ee66a97d5cc3
}
9b7ecc6eeb83abf9ade10fe38865df4499be3568dcc507ae2ec3b44989cb0093730f75dafd73e047b86acb2dbd74e75dcb93272fa084a9082848f2341aa1abb6... like this i cant screenshot for no reason

chrome ridge
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huh?

sleek zodiac
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like this so i dont know but looks like a transript

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but its encrypted

chrome ridge
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and I think you can right click the file in file explorer and view it with another app

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like the builtin notebook

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lua is just plain text

sleek zodiac
sleek zodiac
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but its modificated by ai

chrome ridge
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that's lua file

sleek zodiac
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no

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i opened the transcrpit of eddting main.lua

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cursor transcript

chrome ridge
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I meant to say those files sorry

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not the transcript or something

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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so those slime something lua file are not edited, you just took from github?

chrome ridge
sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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what did you edit?

sleek zodiac
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slime library

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agent was said not compatibile with slime library

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and it changed some scripts

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on the library

chrome ridge
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wait what library is not compatible with slime library

sleek zodiac
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sorry for english i used translate

chrome ridge
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but I mean you just have this one library?

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so what it's incompatible with

sleek zodiac
sleek zodiac
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hello

sleek zodiac
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and you was a tester

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And for an hour I've been trying to prove that the mod is mine.

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so sorry for tag

chrome ridge
# sleek zodiac

right, so back to this options menu thing you're testing for. Could you open the corresponding file?

chrome ridge
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the files related to options menu

sleek zodiac
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realism_panel.lua

chrome ridge
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that's all the files for options menu?

sleek zodiac
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ok

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yes it is

chrome ridge
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but you cannot specify any file as the options menu in Teardown, there's a fixed requirement for such thing

sleek zodiac
#

#version 2
#include "modconfig.lua"
#include "realism_panel.lua"

function default()
ModConfig.apply_all_defaults()
end

function init()
ModConfig.seed_new_save()
ModConfig.ensure_legacy_keys()
end

function draw()
RealismPanel_draw({
show_profiles = true,
title = "Realism test
on_close = Menu,
on_reset_defaults = default,
})
end

chrome ridge
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so if you have that file and if that is indeed the only file, no options menu would show up

sleek zodiac
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#version 2
#include "modconfig.lua"
#include "realism_panel.lua"

function default()
ModConfig.apply_all_defaults()
end

function init()
ModConfig.seed_new_save()
ModConfig.ensure_legacy_keys()
end

function draw()
RealismPanel_draw({
show_profiles = true,
title = "Realism test
on_close = Menu,
on_reset_defaults = default,
})
end this is options.lua

chrome ridge
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so how many files you have for options menu?

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if you developed that mod yourself you should be very clear about this

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bro eating again?

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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could you show which are those files?

sleek zodiac
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ok

chrome ridge
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just show it no need to paste here

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keep chat clean

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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what is this json file for?

sleek zodiac
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for configs

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its a default config

chrome ridge
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how do you read it

sleek zodiac
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in the script?

chrome ridge
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or maybe I should ask how the script read it yes

sleek zodiac
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with savegame

chrome ridge
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savegame is a registry, you need something to edit it

sleek zodiac
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like this function server.init()
ModConfig.seed_new_save()
ModConfig.ensure_legacy_keys()
server.gc_launch()
end

chrome ridge
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so you wrote this part during development?

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could you show how those functions read the json file and set default configs?

sleek zodiac
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oh, mod doesnt reads json its for a old version

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i tested it and it doesnt work so i forgot to delete these files

regal kernel
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😭 what is this channel now

sleek zodiac
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now, it works with savegame

chrome ridge
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hold on a sec

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you got the slime files from the github repo yes?

sleek zodiac
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yes and i edited it

chrome ridge
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the version published is 1.0.3, the version in your mod is 2.0.0

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and you said you edited

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but you didn't include those changes in changelog

sleek zodiac
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yes

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because i made it first

chrome ridge
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so only functions those exist in 1.0.3 already would be same as other mods

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and all the rest of that are your work

sleek zodiac
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funcitons are compatible with old versionb but my mods requietmnets isnt

chrome ridge
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no it's not about compatibility

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it's about what functions would be the same if you edited the file from released version 1.0.3

sleek zodiac
chrome ridge
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bro it's simple, if you edited from 1.0.3, then anything that doesn't exist in the original 1.0.3 file would be yours, since you edited it

chrome ridge
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  • you got those slime files from the github repo
  • that repo's latest version is 1.0.3, 3 years ago
  • and you edited the slime files
  • so the only part would be the same would be functions from 1.0.3, the rest would be your edits
chrome ridge
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so I think we could check the difference between your slime files with @muted laurel 's slime files

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but just in case is he copied you, better chose an older version of slime files he have

sleek zodiac
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ok

chrome ridge
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you sure?

sleek zodiac
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yes

chrome ridge
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then I'd just use the lastest version he have, I think is last weekend or what

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you edited all 3 slime files right?

sleek zodiac
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wait ill check

chrome ridge
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  • slimegcfunc.lua
  • slimeinitializer.lua
  • slimerand.lua
sleek zodiac
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i only changed slimerand.lua

chrome ridge
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ok

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and you're fine with comparing with a version that's after you released your mod

mortal willow
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Just gonna post this here

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Incase it hasn't

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This part specifically

sleek zodiac
mortal willow
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Third party websites

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It counts

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So that EULA applies

sleek zodiac
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github repo hasnt got rights

mortal willow
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A GitHub repo is a third party website or service which they've made User Created Content available through

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so it does fall under that

chrome ridge
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the thing is, you've published your mod with your changes, everyone could get what you changed and put in their mod, and you're completely unaware of

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unless you're like 100% confident that they didn't do that

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hence I said to get an older version

sleek zodiac
mortal willow
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It says in the EULA first line 😭

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It does apply to a GitHub

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I think you misunderstand anyways, I'm not trying to say you can't post your mod with this

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I'm saying your mod is fine to exist even if it's an edit of an existing mod

chrome ridge
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yea, the point here is that he said he get the slime library files from github, which is a 3 years old version maintained by Fish

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so anything different from that version 1.0.3 should be his own work

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#1040156752068497418 message

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Fish submitted a DMCA take down against his mod on sunday I think, and the mod is indeed taken down

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Fish's evidence is extremely high similarly in multiple files

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Isnowx claimed he didn't copy Fish's mod

mortal willow
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Ok well DMCA I'm more inclined to believe Valve's verdict since they do review it but, I know DMCA can still be abused

chrome ridge
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so I'm like asking how isnowx made the mod

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he basically vibe coded it

sleek zodiac
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i made it for fun

chrome ridge
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but still, if he vibe coded it himself it;s not his fault if it have such a DMCA drama

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would be AI's fault