spyglass service doesn't work, but running it manually does

[fading socket]

Not sure what to do, but running the command manually allows spyglass to work, but the service doesn't. I have tried changing the service to basically run it the same as the command, couldnt get that working.

Service Status
pi@Voron:/etc/systemd/system $ sudo systemctl status spyglass.service ● spyglass.service - spyglass - Picamera2 MJPG Streamer Loaded: loaded (/etc/systemd/system/spyglass.service; disabled; vendor preset: enabled) Active: activating (auto-restart) (Result: exit-code) since Sun 2026-05-24 19:24:44 BST; 3s ago Docs: https://github.com/roamingthings/spyglass Process: 35946 ExecStart=/usr/local/bin/spyglass (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) Main PID: 35946 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE) CPU: 697ms
Manually running command
pi@Voron:/ $ spyglass [25:11:09.578563090] [36279] INFO Camera camera_manager.cpp:297 libcamera v0.0.5+83-bde9b04f [25:11:09.701275024] [36280] INFO RPI vc4.cpp:437 Registered camera /base/soc/i2c0mux/i2c@1/imx708@1a to Unicam device /dev/media1 and ISP device /dev/media3 [25:11:09.701359412] [36280] INFO RPI pipeline_base.cpp:1101 Using configuration file '/usr/share/libcamera/pipeline/rpi/vc4/rpi_apps.yaml' INFO:picamera2.picamera2:Initialization successful. INFO:picamera2.picamera2:Camera now open. INFO:picamera2.picamera2:Camera configuration has been adjusted! [25:11:09.713605900] [36279] INFO Camera camera.cpp:1033 configuring streams: (0) 1920x1080-XBGR8888 (1) 2304x1296-SBGGR10_CSI2P [25:11:09.714215746] [36280] INFO RPI vc4.cpp:565 Sensor: /base/soc/i2c0mux/i2c@1/imx708@1a - Selected sensor format: 2304x1296-SBGGR10_1X10 - Selected unicam format: 2304x1296-pBAA INFO:picamera2.picamera2:Configuration successful! INFO:picamera2.picamera2:Camera started INFO:spyglass:Server listening on 0.0.0.0:8080 INFO:spyglass:Streaming endpoint: /stream INFO:spyglass:Snapshot endpoint: /snapshot

Device Info:
Pi 4
Pi Cam V3
spyglass: v0.18.1-0-g073a0f9b

[mortal ravine]

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[thorny schooner]

What does your problem has to do with Klipper?

Is there a reason, why you are running spyglass standalone, without crowsnest? Just wondering ^^

[fading socket]

I am running both

[thorny schooner]

Run journalctl -u spyglass and scroll to the bottom. Then send the output

[thorny schooner]

That can be a problem....

Depending on your configs and if it's crowsnest v4 or v5

[thorny schooner]

Send your crowsnest.log and spyglass.conf too

[fading socket]

Crowsnest V4

[thorny schooner]

Oh, I see the problem

[fading socket]

I reset the spyglass config to the default
`#### spyglass - Picamera2 MJPG Streamer

https://github.com/roamingthings/spyglass

This File is distributed under GPLv3

NOTE: Please ensure parameters are in capital letters and values in lowercase!

NOTE: Values has to be surrounded by double quotes! ("value")

NOTE: If commented out or includes typos it will use hardcoded defaults!

Libcamera camera to use (INTEGER)[default: 0]

CAMERA_NUM="0"

Running Spyglass with proxy or Standalone (BOOL)[default: true]

NO_PROXY="true"

HTTP Port to listen on (INTEGER)[default: 8080]

HTTP_PORT="8080"

Resolution (INTEGERxINTEGER)[default: 640x480]

RESOLUTION="640x480"

NOTE: the maximum supported resolution is 1920x1920 (recommended maximum 1920x1080)

Frames per second (INTEGER)[default: 15]

FPS="15"

Stream URL (STRING)[default: /stream]

STREAM_URL="/stream"

NOTE: use format as shown below to stay MJPG-Streamer URL compatible

STREAM_URL="/?action=stream"

Snapshot URL (STRING)[default: /snapshot]

SNAPSHOT_URL="/snapshot"

NOTE: use format as shown below to stay MJPG-Streamer URL compatible

SNAPSHOT_URL="/?action=snapshot"

Use Software Encoding (BOOL)[default: false]

#USE_SW_ENCODING="true"

WebRTC URL (STRING)[default: /webrtc]

WEBRTC_URL="/webrtc"

Force WebRTC streaming to start (BOOL)[default: false]

#FORCE_WEBRTC="true"

Autofocus behavior (STRING:manual,continuous)[default: continuous]

AUTO_FOCUS="continuous"

Focal Distance (float:0.0)[default: 0.0]

NOTE: Set focal distance. 0 for infinite focus, 0.5 for approximate 50cm.

Only used with Autofocus manual

FOCAL_DIST="0.0"

Auto Focus Speed (STRING:normal,fast)[default: normal]

NOTE: Autofocus speed. Supported values: normal, fast.

Only used with Autofocus continuous

AF_SPEED="normal"

EXIF Orientation (STRING:h,mh,r180,mv,mhr270,r90,mhr90,r270)[default: h]

NOTE: Set the image orientation using an EXIF header.

h - Horizontal (normal)

mh - Mirror horizontal

r180 - Rotate 180

mv - Mirror vertical

mhr270 - Mirror horizontal and rotate 270 CW

r90 - Rotate 90 CW

mhr90 - Mirror horizontal and rotate 90 CW

r270 - Rotate 270 CW

ORIENTATION_EXIF="h"

Camera Controls

NOTE: Set v4l2 controls your camera supports at startup

EXAMPLE: CONTROLS="brightness=0,awbenable=false"

CONTROLS=""

Tuning Filter Directory (STRING)[default: none]

NOTE: Directory where to search for tuning filters(if defined).

Directory only used if TUNING_FILTER is defined

TUNING_FILTER_DIR="/usr/share/libcamera/ipa/raspberrypi"

Tuning Filter (STRING)[default: none]

NOTE: Name of the file to be used to apply tuning filter.

If dir not defined, default pycamera2 directories will be used.

TUNING_FILTER="ov5647_noir.json"

`

[thorny schooner]

The issue is basically your old OS

[fading socket]

I need to update to the newest raspbian image?

[thorny schooner]

Your OS is just not supported anymore but you still got updates, as I cannot stop updates through the moonraker update manager

[thorny schooner]

Kinda, but I recommend MainsailOS. Is PiOS with everything installed

*klipper related

Also you are afftected by this btw:
https://copy.fail/

Instead of a fresh OS, you can also just uninstall Spyglass and upgrade your crowsnest to v5, then it will work too

But due to copyfail, you should install a new image

[fading socket]

Annoying that isnt fixed on older versions of Raspian

Alright, guess I will reinstall everything

[thorny schooner]

I can understand them. You don't want to support every old OS for years.
Bullseye got released 5 years ago. Bookworm got released 3 years ago. Trixie got released last year.
Supporting 3 different OS is kinda annoying. In theory I would have to test 3 different OS, after each change I do, just to be sure that everything is still working 🙈
The difference for me is, that I'm not maintaining a low level thing like the kernel, but just some high level software...

[fading socket]

Yeah I get it

Just wishing it was easier to upgrade but whatever

[thorny schooner]

Yes that's the worst thing, that you have to reflash each time.
Sadly they change quite a lot with each major version. That's one of the reasons we take so long to release a working MainsailOS 🙈

[fading socket]

I know this isn't the place for this but I'm fairly new to the Linux world. Is this limited to Debian and derivatives? I use Arch on my desktop and that seems like it will handle all major updates automatically

[thorny schooner]

It isn't about Debian, but just PiOS

[fading socket]

Oh interesting

[thorny schooner]

You can easily upgrade between major versions on most Linux distributions. In theory PiOS is also possible, but the Pi foundation does not recommend it and something will always break.