tropic sun
Sometimes it doesn't.
Whenever it did, I solved it with cd crowsnest && make update.
But this time it doesn't work.
I have verified that the camera is working with libcamera-hello -list.
The crowsnest.log also says it is working.
But what I can actually see is not.
okay fixed
I changed the MODE to mjpg and then back to camera-streamer, and it worked.
young bay
The next time this happens, set log_level: debug then you might see the error
tropic sun
The next time this happens, set `log_level: debug` then you might see the error
okay I will try that.
If I run make update, it's reinstalling crowsnest?
I'm wondering why it's working after run make update
libcamera on my second Pi4 doesn't have this problem
Only the Pi connected to the printer(main PI) has the problem
young bay
okay I will try that.
If I run `make update`, it's reinstalling crowsnest?
I'm w...
The make update command updates everything, including the backends, resulting in a recompilation. So if libcamera got updated and camera-streamer broke because of that (it will always break on libcamera update with a manual compilation), then a recompilation can help
young bay
libcamera on my second Pi4 doesn't have this problem
Only the Pi connected to th...
Then you most likely don't update your system packages, or might using Bullseye that doesn't get such breaking updates anymore
tropic sun
both is bookworm.
Second PI did not modify anything after installing.
The main PI is where I modify the printer and runs a lot of commands. Could this be a problem?
young bay
It only happens, if you run an update on the system packages in the updatemanager or on the console
So you most likely did just update the system packages
tropic sun
oh yes I did
young bay
okay fixed
I changed the MODE to mjpg and then back to camera-streamer, and it w...
Btw you should use mode: ustreamer and not mode: mjpg. mode: mjpg is deprecated and will be dropped with the next bigger update
tropic sun
Btw you should use `mode: ustreamer` and not `mode: mjpg`. `mode: mjpg` is depre...
but USB webcam still mjpg?
tropic sun
Btw you should use `mode: ustreamer` and not `mode: mjpg`. `mode: mjpg` is depre...
ustreamer not streaming on mobile (iphone) as far as I know
young bay
but USB webcam still mjpg?
Yes it's still mjpg
young bay
`ustreamer` not streaming on mobile (iphone) as far as I know
That doesn't make sense because they both start the same backend 😂
It's just an old deprecated mode name, but it was ustreamer all along and the parameter just got renamed
tropic sun
oh okay
young bay
From your log btw:
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/v4l/by-path/platform-fd500000.pcie-pci-0000:01:00.0-usb-0:1.2.1:1.0-video-index0 ...
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-046d_0825_15C067D0-video-index0 ...
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/video40 ...
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-Generic_FULL_HD_1080P_Webcam_200901010001-video-index0 ...
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/v4l/by-id/usb-Generic_USB_Camera_200901010001-video-index0 ...
Starting ustreamer with Device /dev/v4l/by-path/platform-fd500000.pcie-pci-0000:01:00.0-usb-0:1.2.3:1.0-video-index0 ...```oh XD
all ustreamer
I changed it to ustreamer libcam and it doesn't work again
I will upload log file
young bay
But I just realized, there is no deprecation warning 🙈
young bay
I changed it to ustreamer libcam and it doesn't work again
I will upload log fil...
Not the libcam, only the mjpg devices
The libcam is this Starting camera-streamer with Device /base/soc/i2c0mux/i2c@1/ov5647@36 ...
That's a bit higher up in the log, that's why I didn't copy it
For the others, just send the log
tropic sun
okay so libcam mode : camera-streamer
young bay
Yes, but without the space after mode
tropic sun
okay
tropic sun
Yes, but without the space after mode
Changed the USB webcam to ustreamer.
lib cam worked for the first few seconds and then stopped.
young bay
Send a picture of the PCB of the libcam
young bay
It's a fake 🙈
tropic sun
??
young bay
Those don't work at all with libcam on bullseye and it seems like they don't work perfectly on bookworm then
young bay
??
Have a look at these two pictures: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/4887#issuecomment-1039304787
The lower one is an original pi cam v1
The other, with the print directly on the cable, is a fake
tropic sun
oh...
young bay
The layout and so on of the PCB, is also different
tropic sun
copy version?
young bay
Yes
tropic sun
😂
young bay
They are of lower quality so it's possible that they break faster, or don't work at all...
They work with legacy mode pretty good, but that got "removed" with Bookworm
tropic sun
okay
And... I have another PI camera that I bought from Aliexpress (currently connected to a second PI)
It currently works fine on the second PI.
Is it worth changing both?
young bay
The original has no autofocus and it's not just a copied version (not claiming it's a picamera v1) so it should be fine ig
young bay
A lot of people don't realise it, as they think they can just safe some money by buying the cheaper one, and then have problems, because the seller sold them fake products
Really annoying those fakes
tropic sun
I didn't realise that fake cameras were a problem
You just swapped two cameras with each other.
But the fake camera works fine on the second PI.
Is it possible that the cable is the problem?
that was looking good in Second PI a moment ago
young bay
You just swapped two cameras with each other.
But the fake camera works fine on ...
Also possible
tropic sun
okay main PI camera cable is long (about 1m)
young bay
Running alongside some steppers maybe?
1m is already long and with some electrical noise, they can get pretty bad
*long for a ribbon cable
young bay
With both cams? (just to rule out another cable fault)
Or use the cable from the other pi once
tropic sun
okay
tropic sun
Or use the cable from the other pi once
I think it's a connector or software issue on the MAIN PI.
It's not a cable issue either.
young bay
Yeah, then it's the pi, for sure
It might be a driver problem and we only know of reinstalling to fix those
Another thing you could try would be to disconnect all the other cams
And comment them out in the crowsnest.conf
tropic sun
Another thing you could try would be to disconnect all the other cams
try this
ok
same error
tropic sun
It might be a driver problem and we only know of reinstalling to fix those
How to do this?
young bay
Sry, meant reflashing, so completely wiping the system
tropic sun
oh ok
It's the same pi 4B
I will try swapping the two SD cards
software issue
I switched the SD card and it works fine in the main PI
young bay
The "bad" sdcard also makes problems with the other pi?
tropic sun
no also work
young bay
So it cannot be only a software issue then?
young bay
Let it run for while to see if it's really working and not just a fluke
tropic sun
Let it run for while to see if it's really working and not just a fluke
The error only occurs on the main Pi with a bad SD card inserted.
young bay
Weird
tropic sun
Let it run for while to see if it's really working and not just a fluke
And... I remove the klipper screen ribbon cable and it works fine.
young bay
With klipperscreen I would expect a differen error 🤔
tropic sun
Stopping the klipper screen -> same error
However, unplug LCD cable -> fixed
young bay
Then it might be an overload on the spi bus
tropic sun
Is the only way to fix it is to turn off the LCD?
young bay
Maybe 🤷♂️
Those kind of issues are the worst and I never encountered one myself
So it's all just speculation and experience through other people debugging
tropic sun
okay
tropic sun
and finally fixed!
switched 2 Pi 4b
I got answer in the 'OV5647 and/or klipperscreen' section
https://crowsnest.mainsail.xyz/faq/how-to-setup-a-raspicam#ov5647-and-or-klipperscreen
young bay
That thing is not stable on Bookworm
It's possible that you have to sometimes reboot the pi, that it will work
tropic sun
okay As long as it's not completely unusable, it's fine.
tropic sun
It's possible that you have to sometimes reboot the pi, that it will work
btw, Will the next big update support the same multiple webcam feature you mentioned?
young bay
It will support the correct logging of the cams
