#wh/pg stompy
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Stomp stomp stomp
i get to play sporecaster unironically
cobra the goat of this deck fr, works with magi / vexur / sporecaster / 8 damage by itself ?? / boneface/ packbeast with unyielding??
its kinda really funny
ALSO cautious
Bee how would you handle a sneaky that's guards by taunt with this deck
For research purposes
fireball or using cobra and overseers to just stomp through it
Noooo I’ve gotten beat this and ranked at least twice now
nyhe heh heh
@hardy verge and packbeast together is rlly dumb and basically magic and my fav of the two card combos in the deck tbh
I luv packbeast
@late crown I'm changing this list like crazy and havent settled yet but its smth like this
spore Caster
no .
She’s gonna find a way to hit both spells with the spore. 🙏
8 mana creatures are in an influx with cobra at 2-3 and untaming at 3
Swap fireball with the 6 mana 5/5 quickstrike?
both r needed bc cobra fuels sporecaster and anything 5 or less mobalization and untaming is the only aggro stablizatipn
i trimmed for spymasters i forgot what
potion and a causious i think
Fanglor?
again this list is old and needs to be updated once i settle on soemthing
I Have No Idea What I Trim
Stalkers? they hit 4 or less on death, and if you get outnumbered they kill
Replace the two fireballs with two cooking the books.
i did add those
earlygame is crazy w reserves being with 2drops and sporecasters for sm earlygame value and spam until t6+ hits and i can slam Stompers
i have no idea what i'm doing atp, i lost the plot but it wins a good amount in ranked so idfk
i lose to gunhaunt alot actually
Maybe sporecaster is a bad card
It is a draw three if done right but it can end up being mid in some spots.
I think it’s fine as a 1 or 2 of if you can mobilize 5 well enough and there aren’t better targets.
Its good for draw on mobilize, its pretty whatever otherwise though
Buff it to have pacifist already. Or do 4 damage. 🙏
What's the deck supposed to do
How could you 😢
STOMPSTOMPSTOMP
😱
Stop it! You scared me 😢
I wasn't prepared to read that smh
Sorry, those are the instructions.
deck was orginally a 40 creature deck made by @inner junco called catchers den(?) that asked the question "whats the best deck with only creatures"
he gave it to me many moons ago and i realized a couple weeks ago that
ao has things like spelllimit / breach / basumith that care about you casting spells
mastery has a weak boardstate esp w/o systematic and improvised around anymore
and ao always got pooped on by stomping their nose in
such this was born
earlygame turns are aggressively reserving cheap things *and sporecaster for other cheap things until t4 where things like packbeast/gary/bannerman are castable , t6 where spymaster and serrated are playable, t8 where cobra and untaming come online to hopefully, win with magi
stomp stomp stomp
Catcher's Den was a challenge to myself, i wanted to push 40 creatures to it's limits and beat everything
it worked for a bit
core pieces of the deck are magi untaming cobra sporecaster bonefaces and spore
besides that idfk
im tryin out things with spymaster, seems fine?
idk
i'll update this later when i get home
we love unironic sporecaster
STOMPSTOMPSTOMP
@inner junco
Time to hop on and beat Persephone with her own deck. >:3
Zapothecary
Billy Mastery 2 - Bee WH 0 heheheheheheeh
tbf you did kill me 3x over I just kept healing 😭
what can i replace fireball with? moose calf?
breach would make me sad if i only had fireballs to pop it with, so I don't want any spells at all
STOMPSTOMPSTOMP
It also gives them a slot for contracts
STOMPSTOMPSTOMP
sporecaster is such a meme card. seething speardancer almost draws the same amount and doesn't give your opponent a blocker. but the idea of having them die slowly to it is kinda funny. it just isnt very stompy imo
this deck is just miss labeled
stop thinking of it like stompy
you need an out for sneaky
this could be true, whats more fitting?
yeahhh but drawing 3 is really funny
lemme analyze
awful argument, say that it's card draw and an alt finisher
speardancer is very much a better card though
eh
i still hate speadancer in most scenarios
i wanna take it out of Study actually💀
yeah same
it feels worse to play and i dont need the powerbump to win sooo
mushroom ^^
honestly i dont even really care about the dmg from sporecaster, its a draw 3 and 3 damage on lines like fireball cobra ~ swing but doesnt usually live longer than 2
speardancer draws -1 than mushroom total at the "cost" of not doing that 3 damage and providing you a body
its suboptimal and idc ^_^
midrange
or flex?
dude what is this deck
40 creatures always pissed me off, mine got called tempo and then i just ignored anyone who wanted to classify it as anything
it's so silly it's good. it's in it's own category
😞😞😞
I am THE PEOPLE RAHHH
YOU ARE ALL CLUELESS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA 😭
i got stomped by bee with this deck 😦
Was the channeled oozes peak? 🙏
(Didnt even get my heal stuff 💔💔💔)
what other healing do you have in that?
ppl are beating up on my aggro deck today
bee's aggro deck*
guys just out heal the stompy
I dont think I added enough tbh, I run medics, and maybe one other thing
Billy is reinventing meow (just without the Philly cheesesteak)
I wasnt able to actually do the healing though cause I didnt have stuff to get carrions and stuff out
Nah meow was burn at the maximum this is basically just mastery stall lol
Are you using the improvised medic?
I assume you are
Yeah
aggro excels when people dont prep for it
esp when metas are majorly shaken
its time is passed and it'll be locked away in a dusty box under the bed... for now
@nimble shore you just gave me an idea.
skibidiiii
i cut cautious for another spymaster and a potion
cautious saved you in the game against me
it's a mix of your favourite thing and mine.
i'd have lived anyways
I think spymaster and potion would do better so she has a chance in those longer games
real.
Doesn’t cautous also help with the Gunhaunt matchup?
well yes. but actually no.
yeah i had lethal with 2 bees in hand but cautious blocked both lol
not as much as spymaster or potion
gunhaunt should just make 1/1s lowkey
idgaf his ass has never been bad like
the "nerf" doesnt even do anything hes still making bodies for FREE with a minor deckbuilding cost and they can attack
it's gunhaunts turn next
what i wanna know is, why do birds not trigger their effects when hitting gunhaunt in the face? (messenger and murder)
it's not direct damage.
i never understood this interaction, it used to work one way then they changed it and changed it again i think? idfk i dont use either soo
how is it indirect damage if you block with your master
like the master is not "you", but if it dies you die?
It's damage to the master, the masters health is linked to your life points, so it's dealing damage to the master and the master deals the damage to your life.
You and the master are separate entities. You just happen to share hp. Dumb logic imo. Bad interaction.
Yeah, the health is just paired so direct damage triggers don't go when it hits the DM
it's funky
Fr
Mb🙏
no worries !!!
#tavern-talk
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tysm
this deck is hard to pilot, i need better instructions
Stompstompstompstompstompstomp
i lost to Mulligan
literally how
How
Summon big things and turn them sideways. 🙏
okay I didn't really lose to mulligan, but when you don't draw packbeast and you need to reserve things above 5 mana you have no way to mobilize them, so i guess i had a hard time knowing when to reserve things above 5 (vs holding on to them)
don't reserve unless you need the mana
that's the one rule
like for hand stuff
so we're just lyin now
packbeast shouldnt be relied on for mobalizing anything bigger than like
2
i mean let's be honest, you have to build a deck bad on purpose to actually lose to mulligan. but yeah when i played this list VS how you played it against me, it seemed way stronger with you piloting it lol
channel the spirits of the horde and play with your soul
sure
stompy stompy
Yeah
i cut bannerman for unshackles
magi on t9 for 5/7 if cobra is skibidi
also more options allround, w sporecaster its a 5 mana draw 3 which
isnt horrible
ALSO gurm
t3-4 gurm is pretty strong
w mobalize
the mana curve on this deck sucks, i have 2 8drops and they're both kinda bad and usually cant play smth else on the same turn
buttttt cobra is a load bearing card and untaming is the only stablization vs aggro
catcher's kinda gone so i have to figure ts out by myself 😞 i think the deck is fine having an inefficent topend though
i still win so who gaf
I could probably help :D im a lot stupider than catcher, but its better than nothing at least lol.
i don't think its an issue so i don't think it needs to be solved yet
average mana value 5 💀
My pg deck is half that mana cost. 😭🙏
It has similar elements to study tbf
i'm staring really hard and i see board wipes i see early game stabilization i see lategame wincons i see a lot of removal
@inner junco Do i have the Horde's blessing to call this control
speak of the devil and ye shall appear goddamn
kms
i think you can tech this like crazy against mastery and ao with a less topend package, replacing cobra / sporecaster with bannermen / stalwart / blessed
also between wh/pg/neutal you can play 12 cards with taunt and thats really funny
stump mule torch carrier and stalwart
Don’t forget lazar
theres a lot of space in the deck but one common theme is that your cards need to be doing crazy work things like cobra and serrated replacing themselves is actually crazy
things like sloth / princes might looks decent but things need to be more than just bodies
nah, I'd heal
I’m roughly 10-2 rn with this in ranked. Only times I’ve lost is when I was running the outdated version of this deck bc it had basically only 6 mana or higher cards so I’d basically just die to Aggro
@obsidian drift
19-6
You said pg/wh and I was confused 😭
@hardy verge hop on wh/pg creature control
beat ass be proactive
1 second to repost the list since its burried
Danke
Mine is like this but better. Trust 🙏
(Hers is probably better)
i dont rlly know how to give a good guide for this deck
beat ass brah
i haven't </3
It's peak, only won when I had some wild outplays and draws
You might have seen mine. They are very similar and I know someone who went around showing it to players and getting them to play it.
Perhaps
I identify it by Packbeast Vexur and cobra mostly if that is similar between the decks
We do have those cards in common I think
No Vexur in yours
No vexur in mine actually. I should probably add one
Packbeast was the newest addition so I forgot to add vexur for the synergy.
No problemo
vexur is crazy w packbeast and ensures that something is literally always in reserved
I play it in ranked whenever I get on and decide to play ranked and I feel like playing Mra or have a Mra quest
first time seeing this in the wild!!
did they even have sporecaster? I've seen manyyy wh/pg decks recently
yes
thats how i know its mine lmfao
With mine, im 20/0 in ranked 😎
I’ve lost twice in tournaments. D:
@obsidian drift also crunch number pretty please
(Counting tournament losses)
72.5%
12%
TYY
Huh
THANK YOU :333
back on this deck for going straight for wins
updated it some
i love mana harvester
39-12 now btw
Our lists are so similar 😭😭😭
😡
mana harvester wins games. also dyani is pretty awesome
mana harvester is NOT food chain😭
mana dork is good
you could say this about 98% of the cards in this deck
it just isn't special
Cards win games. Old cosmic was fun imo
no
i could win with this
yeh
46-14
i watched her win that last one
53-17
61/19 going 8-2 on these last 10 games is crazy
i hate mana harvester btw
cut them for two fireballs and fanglor
we HATE mana harvester in this house
B-but I like mana harvester 👉👈OO
naur
i think there alot of math saying its bad and personal experience says its bad
soo
mana harvester would be good if you had 3 more than is currently possible to play
5-6 1 cost mana dorks is the way
like elvish mystic and llanowar elves or ignoble heirarch and birds of paradise or avacyn's pilgrim and noble heirarch
That makes sense. At the moment, I can 100% see why people wouldn’t run it. I just think it’s fun to pop off.
yeah rn it's an inconsistent casual card but if there was another mana dork
I think mana harvester is an amazing 1 mana minion in a faction with other insane 1 mana minions
Its so powerful but after trapjaw and vexur you really gotta ask yourself if your deck wants 7 1 drops
I had swapped a serrated stalker for a fanglor because I only have 2 serrated stalkers somehow and it was doing pretty good
I love llanowar elves
i was sleeping on it lowk
w/o our own fanglor its actually a respectable threat
very little can deal w it outside of fireball / boneface / 7 attack magi
w our own fanglor it trades off of itself and we can actually gain advantage from this w dyati out too
since its their thing dying it procs dyanti
and you can grind them out longgame
its fire
puppy :3
@elfin wraith current wl (not really i update it every 10)
this punishes slow spell heavy decks that don't play on board and walls traditional aggro usually hopefully
it loses to flight aggro , mainly avian murder, sneaky through decoys, and verinthrill lastword decks . mirrormatch goes to draws and skill
even then, you admit that i'm not like other stompy players (i'm the best) and i peak out at around 75% wr
its good and my best but not undefeatable
@hot cliff
aaand then more updates
#tavern-talk message Another breakdown
this deck is good, not unbeatable tho clearly
you say that as if any deck is lol
ill check it out tommorow morning thank you!!
factual, people seem to think that certain decks are too strong and can't be beaten by anything
There used to be one that was nearly unbeatable but it was at a time in which the game wasn’t balanced.
My cosmic storm deck went 84-4. 96% win rate
It promptly got removed from the game 😭
oh shit crazy
several instances of this
I personally don’t remember anything being worse than cosmic but there were certainly Absurdly powerful decks.
im plateauing
whats the total % rn
I’ll give you one guess
I'M ON MY LAST GAME!!!
Best of luck queen!
Huh
-# She’s playing 100 games to see here win rate. Shes on her 100th game
Ok
KICK THEIR NOSE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok party people
with a grand total
of 100 games played
the final w/l is......
76/24
almost perfectly 75%
Peak!
You should have thrown so it would be exactly 75% 🤭
it was against a gt player who said stompy is on the same level of annoying as gt
i wish i could !!!
Im nearly certain it's better and more popular
But that mostly because I think overseer tutoring is pretty mid and I don't run into it a ton anymore
And boy do I run into a lot of stompy
Stompy is used so absurdly much But i feel Like it doesnt take alot to stop it when most of the time its playing Max 2 creatures a turn as Long as i Can remove or atleast block Them and just outlast its not hard to win the late game against it
its kinda an umbrella term atp of wh/pg bigthings, i refer to mine specifically as sporecaster based ones
if my entire deck is threats though there comes to a point where you'll run out of removal, i take attacks and trades favorably usually since most of the creatures replace themselves or just attack well like spymaster with quickstrike
it's not unbeatable or even op, it's just normal strong and i think the problem comes along when casual players face it or when people who have been coasting in ranked face another powerful deck
good fair magic
bring back old magi this is just absurd i tried lot of different things only mastery can compete. stompy removes every strategy that implies the 90% of creatures of the game that doesnt have 6 attack
mastery, strikes, sewer wincon, PG bird spam, and the list continues a little
you people need to either stop openly lying cus you're coping or stop admitting to being bad/lazy
i dont understand what the cat is supposed to mean
she's a silly individual
Yeah But sure most of em replace themselves But majority of the decks i use run final spell in some capacity so all i really do is remove your creatures and delay Till i Can final spell either after letting you build up a Lil bit if a board or just if its already too Big because the more i remove your creatures the more you have to dump from your hand so i run you out if resources so fast
its all a bunch of hypothetical
All in all though, Like mentioned above its a strong deck its not at all Busted or anything But its strong
Yeah exactly
i haven't played you outside of gt so idk how it would go fr
I mean obviously you probably Pilot the deck the best as Well so it would be harder for me going up against you with rather than someone Who copied it
she copied it
XD
Huh
this IS true but only cus every WH deck comes from me, it's more like a child of mine tho so this is like saying you're a copy of your parents
honestly every MRA deck came from me too, i'm deadass the progenitor monster
i'm like LUCA
who are u?
Ego much? (For the record this is a joke)
yeah on gleepus we gotta go
THE WH guy
go talk shit to each other somewhere else
old old magi 🙏
and fight gunhaunt as your creature based deck 😭😭
i would die for this
I assume you mean last seasons magi, and that just, would be significantly worse than current 😭😭😭
at least it could not remove my full board of 7/7 XD
magi on 7 is a 3 card two turn combo
It quite literally could. Unless you mean old, old magi, where it did damage equal to attack on entrance.
And it would do it significantly more easily.
oh yes i just know the one that did it's damage on entrance like systemic subjugation
There's a lot of this deck in ranked right now
i've detailed its weaknesses and counters
@nimble shore yeah thanks for that 😝 ... it's more of who is behind the wheel i guess.... i think that's why when people ask me to help them make a deck. The first thing I say is, what's your play style, and what do you like to play... someone can copy someone's deck.Almost exactly, did not have any success with it anyway, thanks for sharing
i cut sporecasters for speardancer
playing bad cards is funny but it's time to win
@lusty copper gunhaunt wins off of punishing you for playing anywhere but the board so just commit to the board
heavy
out stompy them
gunhaunt doesn't really have a hard counter but this is my go to fix all
if gunhunt had a hardcounter i would be masters rn 😭 🙏
thanks btw
yeah i wanna deal 7 dmg split dmg to my oppennts board of 6 5s
Erm actually it was 9
It was a 7 7???
Erm actually it was a 9/9
erm actully it was a 7/7
can we get a third opinion
please anyone
Are you talking about pre or post turn 4 magi?
september 2024
i wasnt playing during the turn 4 magi days
So post. Which is when he was a 7/7
During and before turn 4 magi he was a 9/9
Holy new gen
ive been playing for a year :*(
New gen
@nimble shore whats the current list for this deck i got confused becuase of how much it has changed
let me get that for you , its super unclear since i update it a bunch 😭😭
thanks
x3 unshackle
x3 stump
vexur
x3swindler
x3 spore
x3 packbeast
Garry
potion
x3 boneface
Gurm
x2 speardancer
x3 serrated
x2 cobra
Dyayi
x2 fireball
Fanglor
x2 untaming
x3 magi
yay thanks
i forgot spores
it ok i added them thanks again
@topaz shoal billahhhh
Wassup.
look at this list that everyone loves or hates
its kinda really popular
lotta offshoots too
Is this in reference to what I said to evan in deckbuilding?
its in reference to the fact that you're another set of eyes that hadnt commented on it yet
idk vro
Uhhh maybe
i have this problem where i like healing but i don't like playing slow cards
untaming is a bad card and we shouldnt need it but its stablization against aggro
i think i'll cut it
im
we're trying stuff
uhh
bannerman is a good card
hunting party is earlygame pressense and stops us getting aggroed out as much
its replacing untaiming which wasnt helping with aggro matcups and was like
next to useless in mirrors
trapjaw is the only bleh replacement but if our card that forces a bullet got another card then we go +1 instead of trading
i
i think i like it more
i havent lost yet
I lie
i just lostg to solo lmfao
going down a serrated makes a wh/dm mirror bad
💔
ok real talk here lumber would be nice : )
change the list!! go right ahead
i dont like it but you're free to do wtv
playtest it, report back, if it works well lmk
I don’t like lumbering but it can definitely be a threat
i havent seen a serrated in 40 matchs of playing this deck lumber is good trust
Do it brobro
i cut 2 spymasters and dyani for a extra staker and 2 lumbers ima see how this goes
yeah the version im running rn has like a 80% agiasnt gunhunt lmao
im at 3111 now
it cooks so hard
Ive been messing with this deck for a while
I actually changed the primary to dm and secondary to AO and completely changed the deck and now it sucks
just say u hate me
I was joking
I just keep the original deck list
And run it when I have a WH quest
Or run my bonds
Nomads
no potion, no spymaster and 2 magi
10-0 right now
easy win against Jacko "PeanutDad" Packo who was playing with Gunhaunt Magi
That isn’t jacko 😭
send me ur list
i lost the plot
peanutdad is not jacko
my bad, I just thought it was him because I didn't know neither of them and never saw them in the same tavern at the same time XD
I gave him a thumbs down after the game and I was playing the whole game with hatred 😦
FeelsBadMAn
Peanutdad is someone with a changed name Im pretty sure, I had them friended before they were peanutdad iirc
me2
@nimble shore heres my current list this shiiii cooks so unbelivable hard
This is just my list but with potion and lumbering sticker. 🙏
Looks pretty good.
potion+lumber beats mirror match becuase of stall
just beat yerais gh becuase of potion that shii is goated in this deck it wins mirror matchs
I keep thinking gh is wh but misspelt 😭
PG cards:
3x Daring Swindler
1x Exit Strategist
2x Fireball
WH cards:
3x Unshackle
2x Trapjaw stump
1x Vexur, Death Evader
3x Monsterous Spore
3x Bighorn Packbeast
3x Boneface Berserker
2x Gelatinize
1x Gurm, Former Taskmaster
2x Seething Speardancer
2x Serrated Stalker
2x Carnivorous Cobra
1x Dyani, Tribe Leader
2x Overwhelming Magi
Neutral cards:
2x Cautious Hunting Party
1x Garenan, Trading Prince
3x Righteous Bannerman
1x Fanglor, the Last Amaroq
15-0
potion has won me most of my matchs ill pass respectfully
im 18-3 rn
I'm never in a position which I see myself needing it so far
I feel like the mana curve and card draw it's just perfect if you know what and when to mobilize/reserve
ive only lost to knife so far
ive climbed from 2620 to 3196 using my edited version of this
That’s the same win loss ratio…
15-0 is basically the same as 18-3
So is potion good or not????
he has gained slightly more due to losing more then winning
wins mirror matchs
Yes that is true
That’s true
it actually is, I feel like I'm beeing lucky with my matchups, no acumen so far
But I dont fight stompy in ranked often
??????? u steam roll acumen
dont use potion if ur not fighting gh
Assumed so
Then again
I haven’t run this deck
In a month or so
Forge my beloved 🙏
This is simply not true. I hope this is rage bait.
this is my list
this is dans
use dans if ur not fighting gh
use mine if u are fighting gh
that ExitStrategist is helping me a lot with summoning another 5 mana creature with Cobra or giving me insight of my oponent's hand with DaringSwindler
a single one, just like a legendary
XD
Not recommending perses deck in her own deck sharing area is a tad crazy. 😭
its her list i changed it a little
so technically i am recomending hers
can i join this copyright agreement
we need some shares
numbers wise jack is right points wise hes not
im 19-3 now : )
Do you know what a ratio even is?
yeah 19 wins 3 loses
or 16 overall
It’s the rate between 2 things. In this example, 19 to 3. This ratio is used to find the percentage of games you win.
You’ve won 19 out of 22 games. It is not 16 overall.
this is 100% wrong but how i used to do it was wins-loses is ur ratio/percentage which for 19-3 is 16
ik its dumb i really should get a calculator for percentage
anyway im 20-3 now
Lmao I'm 88% btw
Yes I was phrasing it wrong
But my point still got across
They were the same ratio
We’re t*
werent*
wh/pg big stompy is a super umbrella term
tons of design space with the core ideas beingcards replacing themself and magi as an asymmetrical wipe
@burnt onyx 19-3
@tender cairn
im promating dw perse im not completely robing u
this is your child, i'm not affiliated here anymore twin
take credit for your own work
ur deck i change 3 cards LMAO
i aint claiming ur work
im not that big of a p*ick
idk i thought it did
I dont think it censors much other than f*ck and slurs
At least I would assume it censors slurs, couldnt tell you for sure, for obvious reasons, but there is like no way it doesn’t censor them.
i would try but i like this discord server a little to much (HELP IM ADDICTED TO POSTING HERE)
"my deck" this list was originally created by catcher and called Catchers Den, got mixed with another wh/pg stompy list from ragrok15 and some touches from other people like jack suggesting fanglor and people testing dyati and suggesting it
i'm not original, you aren't either but that doesn't mean you can't call it your own
so its like 6 different peoples deck with all there diffrent versions
being human is being an amalgamation of things that impress on you
go be a frankenstein vro
Hey that’s me!
why is the most random things u say so inspirational its crazy
i'm goated twin
@fleet tendon
27-3, 90% winrate at rank #6
lost to a AO/DM WraithWrath while playing on my phone 🥲 (never gonna play half asleep again)
Are these ranked stats? 🤔
.
I can tell it didnt work sorry
ok i overhauled this for the third time i think
i took that factor of "everything replacing itself" and turned it up
alot
took out the brakes (packbeast, potion, some stumps) & bigger taller junk (dyati,fanglor) and replaced them with bannermen & shards & spymasters
mana harvesters too
if everything goes right
we can reserve super aggressively and cantrip on ALL of our boddies
turn two bannerman into turn three bannerman into turn 4 bannerman is 21 points of stats across 3 bodies by turn 4
thats
thats nutty
AND IT GOES HAND NEUTRAL!!?
shards are beatsticks and can replace any of the 4 drops + work well with serrated
i'll repost the deck probably, make a new thread for it too lowk
this is super clogged
yeah ive relised that recenlty im on AO mastery now havent played it in over a year
Do people hate on you for playing mastery all the time?
no havent been blocked yet im 2-1 with it only loss was agiasnt catchers aggro
🤣
Yet is crazy
im expecting it lmao
just lost to wh stompy might need to ask billy for lessons
I lost to ao wh