PVE Magus

[tidal crow]

What are the best stones for a PVE magus? INT or STR
What are the best TPs at 210 and 220 and why.

Can magus reach 100% m.pierce% without an oracle?

Do people play with Water / Fire / Earth enchant and why?

Is Magus playable in party at all or just good to solo in twilight? Not playable in SF?

[winter fog]

No1 talks about magus, they are afraid of something

[narrow helm]

Str
Prey+mob of magic, it's obvious
No
Water, m pierce
It's playable with a party, if your party can clear in 8 sec. Because your root stands that much and you rely on it

[sterile mantle]

I think Magus should be completely removed from the game, those who play Magus should be banned from the game XD

[tidal crow]

Thank you. Why MOM is obvious, phase blades sounds like a good candidate too since it increases both p.atk and m.atk and m.pierce% as well and most of the content done on Magus needs m.pierce%. Probably depends on how the calculation is made with CLB.
No dura lags in case of big pulls? 50+ mobs?

[narrow helm]

pb is an option, too. But only after 240.
Yes, it lags a bit

[raven hound]

Hi. I play Intel and attaq %
PT m pierce and cristal aura
With that i have 100% m pierce without oracle.
I can solo all. Just phenix its not possible.
But with this threat I cant play and dps…
So I dont play
HF

[tidal crow]

Thanks it's good to get different builds. So Inner light and CA as TP.
Phoenix one shot even with Yushiva in belt? Yushiva in belt means also no wooden devil so I guess takes time to take it down.

Would be interesting to compare stats of both builds. See how much m.atk one can reach with one and the other.

[raven hound]

Yes or I need more opti for tank phoenix.
For my stats solo, I have 1m+ attq m and 1400-1500 FC

And i’m not full opti. I think I can up to 1m2 attq m and 1500-1600fc

But if I have threat…

For dps, i think prey is better. But with this PT u cant solo farm u re medal

[tidal crow]

Is that with wooden in belt so 100% m.pierce % ?
Could you share a screenshot of the stats? So we can see the raw INT, m.acc, m.pierce% as well for example.

[winter fog]

Which should be the best belt set?

[hot crypt]

im also after best belt set for magus

[narrow helm]

You have to max int,str,p atk and m atk. 3x ogre can work

[hot crypt]

3x ogres and what else ?

[narrow helm]

Snowman for pve

If you have hp issues, you can go 2x undine

[austere belfry]

I have frist random apostle darkness give m pierce 40% and seconds random I have mob magic , do you advise me to keep apostle of darkness or search prey upon ?for PvE

[olive spire]

prey better

[tidal crow]

I'm no pro. I created this topic to get advice and get people to share their experience so more people can benefit from it.

But my understanding is that prey + phase blade is best.

Or prey + mob of magic before 240.

[inner nebula]

reading the comments i feel like not many people know that CP increase dot damage

What are the best stones for a PVE magus? INT or STR => STR is waaaaaaaaay better , it's not even comparable
What are the best TPs at 210 and 220 and why. => **210 , Prey Upon the weak , 220 , the WarKahuna one that gives +30%int/30% str (forgot name sorry ) **

Can magus reach 100% m.pierce% without an oracle? **yes **

Do people play with Water / Fire / Earth enchant and why?** Fire for best damage , earth for more HP , Water for M.pierce
**
Is Magus playable in party at all or just good to solo in twilight? Not playable in SF? => playable in party if you have a good templar who can aggro , otherwise in parties , you need to spam Hold/stun with different classes so mobs don't move at all.

[raven hound]

if i on conso, i screen my stats. You can screen yours?

[inner nebula]

why? xD

[inner nebula]

oh I red your comment above , so you are running Intel and Crystal aura? ouch... you are missing a lot :/

[tidal crow]

Seems like there are different opinions on TP skills. Wouldn't water enchant be best damage because of m.pierce% @inner nebula ?
And have you ever played in a viable party? (not just messing around a few mobs in sf) that's a genuine question btw.

[inner nebula]

everything i said was after testing different combinations and also discussing with other magus players , this is the conclusion we all came up with.
when you have doubt about somethinng just test it yourself , you'll be surprised how misleading some players can be ( even unintentionally)

Use water and damage mobs then use fire and damage mobs and compare and confirm yourself.
same with the STR/CP stones vs other combinations

[inner nebula]

Crystal Aura is just a huge no because Magus doesn't have enough MP to make it worth. stacking as much STR as possible is much better and Mobs of Magic is the best for that , while also providing +30% Int

and yes we did many parties in SF and at first it was terrible because of the Aggro , then we realized that templar needed more damage and it went fine

[tidal crow]

No lag because of the amount of mobs and dura on weapon? Like VM has

[inner nebula]

Huge Rock was fine , same with Root mother and pillar , the one where you throw spinning thingies ( warmonger or something sorry forgot laaags you alot so dont cast it )

Dura problems = yes sadly..

but VM is much much worse in both

[raven hound]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DG0G_QMo7Cs&ab_channel=Othar

AND I HAVE BETTER OPTI NOW

sry caps

[inner nebula]

nice nice , 900k mana is not enough to go Crystal Aura , i'm not saying it's not a dps boost , I'm saying it's worse than mobs of magic

[raven hound]

I tried with force. Intel is better in gems with aura. Anyway you need FC at max

but as said above, I optimized more on the antique solo

force or intel, I can't get to 100% 0 buffalo

[inner nebula]

because you have Aura and water element , Int will be better obviously.
But if you go Mobs of magic , full STR and Fire element the result will be much better

test on a lower level Magus without the 210 TP , then do the math of CA vs MoM

[raven hound]

It's a 500ml test to see if it's better

PT skill is random

i have test

Versatility up attaq m with max mana

no intel isnt more good

and magus have just 1 passif stats %

Its intel

havent force %

[inner nebula]

Str => P.atk => M.atk this is how Magus works , this is why we use Axe

[raven hound]

intel -> mana -> attaq m 😄

[inner nebula]

nope

you are losing so much going that path

[raven hound]

i have 1m attaq m

[inner nebula]

that's nothing

[raven hound]

with stimu i have 1m5

[inner nebula]

i have 1.3m M.atk and i'm not even 220

[raven hound]

send me you're stats PM

[inner nebula]

we have whales on reviac who tested with pots and used your path vs the STR path

I don't even have the game installed anymore but i'll download it later

[raven hound]

i will re test

[inner nebula]

without any changes and no gear at all , put a 2h axe with str stones , fire element , then put int and water , do you still have more matk with int?

[violet vector]

Tested 2 clean axes once with str stones and the other with int definitely the int got more both patk and matk

About 20% better

The MoM is a buff not a passive so it will work just like the puri pieces not much not like the other passive skills like prey / vector or CA. MoM is so fucking trash compare to any of those even the mercenary cp skill is much better for magus vs MoM

Keep in mind that magus has most of the str/int from the potions and the ep unity and toggle. Wont be affected by pieces or buff like MoM

Reviac set do not include 20% str as well like int

As for why magus uses axe because it has 2 x passive for axe that gives a huge 150+% patk boost that will go through CLB

[raven hound]

I'm FR, MoM is?

[violet vector]

Mob of magic 220 tp skill

[jovial sparrow]

Lol, how much str% and int% you can get on magus? Im sure that you can get more than 1500cp. Mercenary skill will gives you less than 5% total dmg.
Can you make 600% str and 600%int on magus?? xD

[violet vector]

Have no clue what do you mean by that can you elaborate

[raven hound]

Yes its similar

the only thing that could increase my dps is a strength medal, because it increases attack %

[violet vector]

True because you get more of matk from any patk boost

[raven hound]

I will make a video for you to compare with the STR

[jovial sparrow]

Your total str = clear str(for example +95 str from stones) × str% (for example from belt pets)
Merc skill gives you 72 CP
So if you have 1440CP and more fatal bind gives you less than 5% total damage.
MoM gives you 30 str% and 30 int%.
So if you havent 600 str% and 600 int% MoM will better than fatal bind

[violet vector]

I want the camera settings of those pls

[raven hound]

i cant send picture of my stats

[violet vector]

Am not rooting for the mercenary skill just saying passive skills is better than the ones that gives buff you might be right iam judging pased on a 16k int build / 1.2 m max mp on 232 magus

[violet vector]

Not stats i mean the graphics or camera sittings

[raven hound]

software?

[jovial sparrow]

So crystal aura gives you 5% of max MP = 60k matk?

[violet vector]

Haven’t played in a while but if I recall right lvl 1 CA gives 10% max
Mp and 14% of mp for matk

[violet vector]

If someone can check that because i dont have the game installed atm

[jovial sparrow]

Lvl2 gives 7.5%

Lvl1 gives 5%

Also CA gives matk only from basic MP, not mp% (yushiva card, items that gives % maxMP dont gives matk)

Im sure that MoM gives much more

[violet vector]

I think random skills have different stats

[jovial sparrow]

If only CA xD

Anothers have same

I dont have toon with random CA to be sure

[violet vector]

I cant post i pics here

Lvl 1 CA random gives 12.5%

@jovial sparrow how to post pics

@jovial sparrow i sent a friend add to send you an old pic of the lvl 1 ca i found so you can post it here

Somehow i cant

[wild mason]

Probably little bit off the current topic, but why i see magus runing with mirror and 1h staff instead 2h axe? Is an pvp build?

[violet vector]

Yes more mress/macc/wisdom

They can still be lethal with bare hands magus broken this way

Pvp wise

[raven hound]

how do you send an image?

[violet vector]

Cant tell if they changed ca stats or not its an old pic

[woven egret]

MoM doesn't calculate 30% of your total strength/intell and CA doesn't calculate on your total MP so it's impossible to calculate the boost

(with around 30k strength each stack of MoM gives me around 500 strength)

[raven hound]

because the STR% of MoM is that of the STR of the equipment and not that with the consum and other %

[woven egret]

Same with CA so hard to calculate the value of each skills

(CA with 550k MP gives me around 13k m.atk)

[raven hound]

Yes but for a magus STR MoM is better. I play INT, CA is better

It remains to be seen which is better.

x)

I may lose DPS but with Yushi on my belt maybe I can tank better, without losing too much dps

[woven egret]

Phase blades for pierce % 🤓

[raven hound]

i have 100% p

anyway, without the aggro problem, magus isn't good class, like many class

[woven egret]

It's with oracle and forest ?

[raven hound]

with forest or with oracle. I have 92%

But if i can't dps on phenix because templar cant take aggro on me... I'm thinking about lowering my pierce

[inner nebula]

yes , i know I never said it gives total of stats , i said that after comparing with CA , MoM is better

[raven hound]

I think STR will be better with MoM. A new magus should go on that. But I don't think going INT is a mistake with CA. And CA lv2 is better

[violet vector]

Not sure if that is correct because when I opened CA while trying potions my matk was up by more tham white 80k before I even go for int build was still on str stones

[woven egret]

This is the value I get when I go from CA lvl 0 to lvl 1 on my cardi.

[violet vector]

You need to know that mental link gives magus shit ton of int magus gets an easy 12k white int stats again in white whitout a single int stone

CLB give 30% of max mp as patk and matk / 1 int= 2.2 matl and 30 mp do the math without counting CA even the int still gives more both matk an patk as you get 20% more int from the reviac armor while none for str same goes for magician chaotic boss card

Can’t figure out how others still going for str and CA is just a boost for this build if you insist on STR though it’s illogical then CA is not for your build

[tidal crow]

I would like to see stats screenshots for both builds and make a comparison. Seems like both are viable.

[raven hound]

with selfbuff and no full conso

[violet vector]

This is int/ CA build I believe

[raven hound]

Yes

I need more opti. I think I can up to 1k-2k int. But I focus CF

[violet vector]

See ppl think that CA (random lv.1 12.5%) is not good thats what iam struggling to understand not to mention that CLB also scales on max mp for both p.atk and matk can’t imagine how CA. Lv.2 will even be

[raven hound]

I think both are equal. The difference is made on the CF

[modest island]

Low stats on that pic!

Listen noobs!

All you need on Magus pve is Str/Cp CLB set!

2h axe, max of mpierce % and that beat way on random tps low than 240 is prey and phase blade

If you are hybrid PvP/PvE go for Prey/CA

That’s it!

Bye!

You should hit 1.50M+ Matk with self buff - Ep/bs Enco for lvl 230 low if not don’t try pve Magus coz is useless 🙂

[violet vector]

Clearly you have no idea about magus specifically pve because its so op id recommend that you stop giving advice about magus bye my friend

[raven hound]

Yeah but how many CF u have?

And many mpierce %?

[violet vector]

Both str and int are good int is better case closed

[raven hound]

and with enco its not 1m5 for me. Its more. This screen is without enco

[modest island]

I know, I’m just saying with str/cp you can’t get 1.10M + without encos/self buff

But anyway I’m just saying what work on pve magus. Anyway if you want tor try another build it’s op to you guys! Cya!

[wild mason]

I get confused here 😂 so simple answers please, i want PVE magus, gear skill, stones , belt pets i am low lvl just started, but I dont want to change stones from str to int later on ☹️

[raven hound]

I think STR is better if you want the most attack m. Playing INT with CA is a different approach. 30 CF gives more DPS than 100k attack anyway.

Focus CF and opti INT on youre WP

"My magus" its 2"30 lab / 2"30 vulca / 2" DD. Full tortle it's 80% life. But IDK i'ts good or not. We havent video and i haventt example on my serv.

[jovial sparrow]

What is "lab"?

[raven hound]

labyrith

[jovial sparrow]

Lol, the dungeon where Budkadah?

Or maze?

[raven hound]

maze

[tidal crow]

CF means Crit Power?

[wild mason]

Coming back again on this one, just straight forward question 😂 before i get these second TP skill crystal aura is there are advantages having INT stones on gear and wep compared to STR?

[raven hound]

Low lvl go STR

[wild mason]

EP or WP is better for PVE magus?

[wild mason]

What belt pets ? i see people runing with minotours and I already got expensive ogres 😂

[floral mica]

Mino and Naga and ep

Str and p atack give more m atack

When I put mines in my belt, the attack increases by 200k. When I put ep and naga on 30k

[wild mason]

So Ogres ins not the same? Just to undines or something for Vitality and ep for m acc wisdom

[floral mica]

Macc and wis in new dungeon

[inner nebula]

becaue STR gives raw PATK too that you are not counting in your logic

Just listen to this and dont waste your money on something else , you'll regret it

[modest island]

O:

[shadow ice]

thread still applicable ?

[long ice]

Always 😀😎🤣👌

[spiral eagle]

Hello, so logically, instead of using STR stones, we would use INT?