lore

[worthy trench]

and petunia and vernon loved each other

[random moon]

Harry wasn’t a true Horcrux anyway.

More an unwilling and unknowing host to a parasite

Horcruxes need to be made with intent, Harry is a pseudo Horcrux at best so it doesn’t work the sane way a proper Horcrux does. It only affected Harry through Voldy’s influence

The Dursleys were just bigoted.

[hollow marlin]

didnt petunia send Dumbledore a letter requesting to join the magical world so she musnt of been envious till her understanding of rejecton from the world

[worthy trench]

yah. thats when it started.

[hollow marlin]

ty ty

[dapper lark]

Imagine though if somehow they were near a horcrux. One of them was wearing the locket since Harry’s birth. Imagine how more bad they would’ve been.

[warped thistle]

The way the books described it, Ginny was increasingly easier to manipulate by Tom's diary, the more she wrote in it and the closer Tom could get to her emotionally that way. At times she couldn't even remember what she did and had no control.
Ron on the other hand had his hopes and expectations destroyed when the search for the horcruxes didn't go as he hoped. And he was described as a bit pampered by having 3 warm very tasty meals each day, so the horcrux intensifying bad emotions seemed to have had more impact on him than on Harry and Hermione.
Don't think these two were related because of them being Weasleys.

[bold bay]

E

[dapper lark]

I agree. But it would be funny is it was some sort of Weasley disorder. Less resilient to magical artifacts. It’d be quite bad for Arthur’s job though.

[subtle wraith]

I think they were horrible people, my personal belief is Harry’s natural kindness and generosity seemed to shelter most from the effects of the Horcrux. That or since he was the one with the least amount of Voldemort’s soul in it he would be less potent as the locket or diary.

[compact jewel]

Considering Harry never affected anyone else around him to make them act like terrible people I would like to wager that the Dursley's are in fact just miserable people. It was a fun theory though. I hope Dudley is doing better. Seemed to be the only one with a glimmer of hope at the end. Though it was also interesting to see Petunia seem a little bit more human in admitting that she mourns for her sister. (both instances I am talking about were deleted scenes) Makes me think that part of the reason why Petunia didn't want Harry to be found was because she didn't want to lose him too. She saw magic as this thing that takes people that she cares about away. And she calloused herself over with hate to protect herself from feeling abandoned or scared.

[lucid coral]

As for the last part. We do see Harry’s aunt reject Harry’s mom when they were little (the scene where Harry’s mom conjures a single flower and shows it to her sisters, but her sister acts disgusted). I personally think Harry’s aunt views magic as “wicked”, less extreme than a puritan during the Salem witch trials, but similar type of person. She isn’t going to try to burn Harry at the stake, but she views all magic as wrong in and of itself.

[flat zealot]

Your belief seems to be invalidated by Petunia literally BEGGING Dumbledore to be allowed in Hogwarts in her letters.

This is the facade she uses, and possibly Vernon's views. She is just jealous of "perfect Lily" getting yet something else she doesn't have access to

[lucid coral]

That’s true she did ask to join as well… maybe see turned sour gapes and once she couldn’t join she decided all magic is bad. We don’t know when exactly the flowers scene takes place. I presume it was pre Hogwarts, but perhaps it wasn’t. Maybe Lily was showing her sister something she learned at Hogwarts while she was on vacation and back home. What is your takeaway of the flower scene and Harry’s aunt’s disgust?

[warped thistle]

I think the way the flower scene was shown in sequence with the other memories, and how it was told in the books, it is before Lily and Severus came to hogwarts.

[compact jewel]

I think she wanted to go to Hogwarts so bad because her sister was going. Again a fear of being abandoned by her sister. I don't think she understood magic or quite cared for it in the first place ex. the flower scene. She didn't want to go to Hogwarts cause she thinks magic is cool. She thinks it's scary and weird. And by proxy her sister was doing something scary and weird. I think the whole setup of her being jealous was a front to her actual emotions that she doesn't want anyone to know about. She became bitter when her sister was doing fine without her big sister. Petunia probably thought Lily couldn't get far without her but when it was proven otherwise she felt pushed aside. And then the real resentment came. So she wasn't jealous cause Lily was a witch. She was mad for being left behind and for being made to feel like she was unimportant to her sister.

[dapper lark]

Eh, I’d be jealous if a sibling is magic. And when that sibling used magic I’d feel left out.

[compact jewel]

But she hated magic. Her gut reaction was to call Lily a freak when she first saw magic. She didn't think it was cool

I don't think anything about the Dursleys is as surface level as they are portrayed to be because that's just not how characters are written in this world

[naive rock]

Likely only because of her jealousy.

I mean who would think doing cool magic things would make you a freak? The only type of person I can think of is someone who thinks magic is satanic. She was just jealous. It’s evident when she mentions how her mother was so proud that they had a witch in the family.

[compact jewel]

Petunia would think that. Anyone that doesn't like something that they don't understand would think that. As would Petunia's husband. A man that has no interest in magic at all and has the same beliefs as Petunia.

The whole reason why magic has to be kept a secret

[ripe nebula]

What would have happened if crucshanks kill peter

[naive rock]

Magic shouldn't be kept a secret. Wizards should just rule the world.

[sly meadow]

Salem witch trials say hello

[worthy trench]

LV doesn't rise again until later if at all since he isn't found by PP in this scenario. He only had BCJ looking for him also and we dunno BCJ would have found him and he'd need someone else to look after LV while he did his rebirth plan with the TT in GOF or he'd have to come up with another plan.

[ripe nebula]

would hermione and ron even like each other if scabars died

[tulip helm]

if he died and reverted to a fat bald man, maybe?

[ripe nebula]

I still think that harry and hermione are a better couple

[tulip helm]

eh I always got a sibling vibe from em

[ripe nebula]

I always got a more friendly hated from both of them espesially in the movies

[ripe nebula]

at the end of the half blood prince and the whole deathly hallows part 1 in the movie i always jsut wanted to shoput OMG JSUT KISS ALREADY for harry and hermione

[tulip helm]

from harry and hermione?

[ripe nebula]

ye mostly ion the movies

[tulip helm]

see I read the books and never got that vibe

[ripe nebula]

they did ron dirty in hte movies

[tulip helm]

yeah

[worthy trench]

maybe he'd revert to his human form upon death?

[dapper lark]

Maybe. Animagus forms are weird to gauge. Hopefully he wouldn’t if crookshanks ate him. But if he reverted it would cause some doubt about Sirius’s crime. So it probably would be preferable to canon if he reverted*.

If he doesn’t revert they never trust Sirius. Never get to use Grimmauld Place and the real Slytherin’s locket remains hidden and Voldemort is never defeated. Lol.

[naive rock]

For those of you who believe in wizard muggle harmony, why the secrecy? If muggles can’t be trusted then they need to be dominated.

[rancid latch]

Clearly you belong in Slytherin house. Only certain muggles can be trusted with the secret of wizard kind. Insecure people will always be afraid of those with power especially people like you who feel the need to dominate people. I believe in wizard muggle harmony and at the same time feel that separation is best. Certainly muggles should stay out of the wizarding world just as certain wizards should stay out of the muggle world

[naive rock]

I don't feel any need to dominate anyone. But if there is a wild dog that doesn't play nice what do you do with it? Also how can you be for harmony and separation at the same time?

[rancid latch]

Unfortunately you would have to isolate the wild dog. As for harmony and separation, it solely depends on the individual. Only certain people can handle certain situations.

If you have seen the Fantastic Beasts franchise, Jacob Kowalski has done a good job fitting into the Wizarding World despite being a muggle

[naive rock]

The muggles deserve to live in a wonderous world and not be blind to the realities of this universe. How they handle this information is up to them. But if you misbehave, you get punished. The dog does not get his memories removed, he is either put down or trained to be a good dog. You can isolate him but there's no growth there, just like death. The best course is to teach him how to be. Same is true for the muggles who can't handle the fact that there are powers that are mightier than they.

The first step in teaching is to establish the teacher/student relationship. If the student does not submit to the teacher, he never learns.

Think of all the muggles who live drab lives. Who are not aware of the magic inherent in this universe.

So if wizardkind wants to be virtuous, and not withhold the truth from the muggles, then they will naturally have to be dominant over them. That's just how it has to be unfortunately.

This is only until the harmony comes about naturally. It will be a long time of this uneven relationship until the muggles could collectively accept that there is a natural difference in power.

Actually the reality of this situation is the reason for my greatest grievance with the HP world; that magic is only hereditary/can't be learned.

[stiff grotto]

When does this game occur in the HP timeline

[tulip helm]

100 years before the game

[stiff grotto]

Ah

[modern moth]

Holy crap we found irl Salazar Slytherin

[modern moth]

He means 100 years before the Philosopher’s Stone. Late 1800s to be exact

[naive rock]

Salazar lived in a time when muggles were committing countless atrocities against wizards. I don’t agree with his pure blood stuff if there’s no impact on wizard birth rate based on blood status but I get his hate for muggles. I’d say I’m more like Grindewald lol

[naive rock]

https://www.reddit.com/r/harrypotter/comments/ei1kbi/in_defense_of_salazar_slytherin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

This is a god write up on Salazar.

I’m pretty sure Salazar supported the secrecy statute right? His distrust of muggle-borns was based on keeping the secret iirc.

[warped thistle]

Wasn't the secrecy statute much later than the founders?

[naive rock]

Oh shoot yeah way after

I wonder what he would have felt about it though

[worthy trench]

He prob hate it and see it as hiding and being weak and it wouldn't remove risk of muggle borns outing the WW to the rest given they accepted muggle borns at the school which he did not want.

[autumn wind]

I was very suprised with the "renaissance" feel of the castle's inside environment in the game, compared to the more"medieval" style in the books and film. It doesn't really match the exterior of hogwarts, does it ? Except for the sharp triangular towers. It made me think a lot about how much of the castle actually would evolve from year to year. I can definitelly imagine 18th century furniture and decoration inside an older building, but some things like the merlin window is a bit strange to me. I like how the plumbing system and steam heater looks like its been awkardly added on top of the stone

[valid sail]

To me it looks pretty much the same as the movies

https://media.harrypotterfanzone.com/hogwarts-castle-secrets-of-dumbledore.jpg

https://gamingintel.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/hogwarts-legacy-courtyard-with-dumbledore-umbridge-weasley-brothers-1080x608.jpg.webp Movie on the left, game on the right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBAeOTHtZVg Video with multiple shots from the movies

[worthy trench]

Its a magic castle, it can look however it wants I guess.

If it was accurate it would not look like it does in movies or games back when it was first built.

Prob magically changes itself to keep up with the changing architectural styles in use at whatever time

Or does a hodge-podge of styles on its whim

[plucky ferry]

Random: I found a gramophone in one of the rooms at Hogwarts. They were first invented in 1887, just a couple of years before the game. That teacher who brought it there must have been really modern at that time.

Imagine Harry’s lesson with Lupin in 1993 and Lupin turns on a CD Player 👀

[random moon]

A CD player wouldn’t have worked though.

Seeing as electricity doesn’t function properly or at all around magic

And the Wizarding world regularly assimilated modern (at the time) things, like when plumbing was just starting to become more mainstream. Sane with the Hogwarts Express. They just straight up stole it and the track to use for transporting kids to and from Hogsneade

[plucky ferry]

Ok! I didn’t remember that from the books. That explains a lot, I guess.

[river sand]

Niffler patronus, is this possible?

[worthy trench]

yes it should be

[errant parrot]

ur a muggle in real life pls get a grip

[naive rock]

Uhh these aren't my real views it's just a way to talk about lore lol

[obtuse brook]

@hot berry would you screenshot your traits on the gear? Trying to run gear but for some reason not doing nearly as much damage as you are

[obtuse brook]

Sorry this was meant for builds

[plucky ferry]

Is the laundry included somewhere in the castle in Hogwarts Legacy? I have found no such location.

[lucid coral]

There are all those laundry bags we loot from

[plucky ferry]

You just made me think of all my cool gear as unwashed second hand clothes haha

Nothing wrong with second hand though (better than buying things new 🌍), but I like to wash them at least.

[lucid coral]

I have ocd. So I wasn’t too happy when my character opened the bathroom door to the toilet and got splashed 😄

I made sure to jump into the lake asap 🙃

[plucky ferry]

I see! I have been working with people with OCD so I know how hard it can be. But yeaaah, why are the toilets so filthy!?

I mean, sure it makes the bathrooms feel ”old”, but still, no - they feel old and abandoned 👀

Wouldn’t the house elves clean them from time to time?

[lucid coral]

Mines only a little bit fortunately

[plucky ferry]

Glad to hear that 😀

[coarse sparrow]

House points are useless, you don't get awarded something useful

[plucky ferry]

Do you have to get something in return though? 👀 You got to win the housecup and experience that moment in a cutscene. Isn’t that a reward? 😇

[coarse sparrow]

Can you take it the trophy home? Nope exactly useless

[plucky ferry]

Well, if that would be what you would want to do with it, I think they could have added a feature like that 😀

But I’m surprised how much focus there is in the discussions about ”rewards”. It’s like everything has to have a measurable reward or rational purpose attached to it, ”otherwise there is no use in it”.

What about the experience in itself? The feelings in our bodies that these experiences generate? The reflections that arise?

[coarse sparrow]

nah itll be forgotten

[dapper lark]

I’d agree more with Valbo’s take. Even in some major sports you don’t get to take the trophy home. You hold it up for the photo then it goes back to a case somewhere or is exchanged for a tiny trophy.

[opal mason]

or a dumb ring

[thorny sparrow]

Imagine a dakimakura in the wizarding world

[plucky ferry]

Yeah I mean, I think it boils down to “appreciating the journey itself, not just arriving at the destination” kinda.

[dapper lark]

“Life before death, strength before weakness, journey before destination.”

[tulip helm]

"Water before bag, bag before milk"

[blissful ginkgo]

One where the picture can move?

[thorny sparrow]

Yes

[worthy walrus]

I have a question about H.L, so who actually ||burned Isidora's potrait|| in|| Feldcroft||? was it Ranrok's and Rookwood's lot? cause wasnt she more useful to both alive than dead? or was it that she doesnt have time to flee or doesnt know that her painting will be destroyed? cause it seems other than MC, only the ||Keepers know of her knowledge of the repositories|| so hencewhy redditors seems to torn between either ranrok's and rookwood's, and ||The Keepers||? thoughts or ideas?

[clever locust]

My opinion might be a spoiler so im gonna cover it.

||I’ve come to the assumption that maybe the keepers were the ones who destroyed it after all. There was great emphasis from the mc when they commented about something being wrong with the portrait, and I feel like they wouldn’t have been so surprised about it if it was Ranrok or Rookwood’s lot. It would make sense…especially since her magic and ideals were something they didn’t want out in the world.||

[worthy trench]

||Ranrock would have to know where the Undercroft is and there's no indication he does so odds are it was the Keepers, though I don't think there's any indication they knew of it either but they are the obvious first choice||

[lucid coral]

Quick question. Do we need to use spoiler tags here? I thought this section was part of the spoiler “header”. I just want to make sure for myself, so I don’t ruin the game for anyone else.

[dapper lark]

Lore is in the spoiler group so I would believe you don’t have to use tags.

[proper trout]

hello, I just did the mission where you get avada kadabra, and in the last question Sebastian did to me I respond "I think is a dangerous spell" or something like that and he doesn't teach me the spell, I've lost it forever in this run?

[warped thistle]

You can learn it if you don't turn him in

Isn't really a lore thing more a gameplay thing

I see. You just copy pasted it in 3 channels. Wack

[flat zealot]

Just don’t do the sensible thing, let him free, and you’ll be able to learn it in the undercroft

[tiny flower]

Letting him free is the sensible thing.

[warped thistle]

That is not letting him free really, just choosing not to report the murder. Debatable whether or not that is sensible

[stiff grotto]

Are we not gonna acknowledge that Professor Garlick probably Poison Ivy'd the last professor out of his position

[modern moth]

He did that to himself.

[stiff grotto]

he had a rather lot of unfortunate accidents all at once

and Professor Garlick gives off poison ivy vibes

she likes plants more than people

[random moon]

Nah, the old professor also didn’t care for plants the way a more typical herbologist would.

He was accident prone and just wasn’t careful enough, nor did he care enough to treat the plants with respect

Garlick is also just too nice a person. It’s not the kind of real growth she’s so into if she had to cheat her way to getting the job

[modern moth]

I think she's more like being in the right place at the right time. If you know what I mean

[random moon]

She was the best choice.

Skilled, passionate about plants… also not tied down by wizarding family or expectations due to her Muggleborn Heritage.

[modern moth]

Plus she has a trophy.

[random moon]

Yeah because she was really, really good at Herbology, a savant even

[tiny flower]

How did one learn apparition?

(In lore, not game)

[random moon]

Once a student reaches 16, lessons are offered in Hogsmeade to learn try and earn your license to Apparate

[warped thistle]

One learned it with the 3 Ds: Destination, Determination, and Deliberation. The students needed to apparate into a hoop by focusing their mind on the hoop and then spin around with the intention of appearing in the hoop.
You could sign up for the class if you were 17 or if you were to become 17 later in the same school year.

It was taught in the Great hall or on hogwarts grounds if the weather allowed. The anti apparition charm was removed in the section of hogwarts where they trained, for the duration of the class.

[tiny flower]

So how does our character magically learn how to do it

Besides being all powerful and magical and special

[random moon]

You mean the Swift dodge?

That’s not Apparition. That’s just a magical dodge.

[tiny flower]

I thought it was a form of apparition

Like when Grindelwald and Dumbledore fight, they phase out and reappear multiple times

What is that?

[random moon]

You mean the Smokey affect seen in the films? Just a visual representation of Apparition that’s easier for viewers to follow.

Because it would be impossible to follow if it used how Apparition is supposed to look, which is shown much more faithfully in the game when you see characters Apparate

[lucid coral]

Very interesting. Great info

[tiny flower]

No, I meant in their “final fight”

When they both disappear to dodge an attack and then reappear

[random moon]

Yeah that’s more like how Apparition is in the books.

The Swift Dodge the MC in HL can use if you unlock the ability is just a magic dodge, it’s not Apparition

Apparition is supposed to be near instant appearance and disappearance to and from your starting point to your planned destination.

[tiny flower]

Ah ok

[tiny flower]

I’m writing my own spinoff of Hogwarts Legacy and want to use it, but didn’t know if it fell under the category of apparition.

Thank you

[random moon]

I’m glad that my unhealthy amount of lore could be beneficial to you lol

And I’d be happy to read it if you’re comfortable sharing. I love being a beta reader

[tiny flower]

I have four chapters done thus far, but they’re not very edited. I’d be more than willing to share regardless for some feedback

Just let me get some more things down and I’ll dm later

[random moon]

Awesome! Looking forward to it! Take your time, no rush or pressure 🙂

[warped thistle]

When a student is expelled from Hogwarts can they apply to one of the other magic schools, or do they automatically get sent letters from those schools, or are the schools collaborating and enforcing the decision of the other schools to remove a student from being taught?

[random moon]

Considering expulsion means also getting your wand destroyed and not being permitted to get a new one… I doubt it.

Moving to another country would involve needing to inform the Ministries of both your home country and the one you’re moving to. And being granted permission by both to do so, which if you’d been expelled. Would probably mean whatever school that other country would send students to, would also be informed and not invite you to it,

[warped thistle]

🤔 that's why Hermione considered it worse than being killed 😅

[random moon]

Lol yeah it basically ruins any chance of a proper magical education.

[fresh stratus]

Can anyone explain to me to me more in-depth HP7 pt.2 where you see Snape's memories and him talking to Dumbledore. When he sends the Doe to the forest to help Harry find the Sword in pt.1, didn't Dumbledore already die in the 6th book? If so, how would he have that conversation to begin with? Or is it different in the book?

[random moon]

It was a memory of Snapes of a conversation he had while Dumbledore was still alive.

The Doe Patronus was Snapes. He’s the one that sent it to show Harry to the sword

[fresh stratus]

But what I mean is, if that conversation happened during the 6th movie, why was it cast then into the 7th movie when *Dumbledore already died before that point?

[random moon]

It’s… a memory? As in it’s from a time before the 7th movie

It’s one of Snapes memories that he shares with Harry to try and explain why he did what he did up to that point and to give him the context he’d need to finish his task

[fresh stratus]

I'm still confused. If he casted during the 6th movie, but the patronus Snape casts is in the 7th movie is that just an error or I'm missing something still? Sorry.

Because Dumbledore dies in the 6th right? And he casts it during that conversation? But Harry didn't see the Doe until well after Dumbledore's death no?

[random moon]

Snape shows Dumbledore his Patronus which is a doe to show that he still loved Lily and wanted to do right he her

The Doe is Snapes Patronus, not Dumbledore’s.

You can cast the Patronus charm whenever you want. Snape just cast it again to guide Harry to the sword

[fresh stratus]

Sorry just to clear up the confusion. This is what I mean:

[6th movie]
Dumbledore & Snape have that conversation in the 6th book.
Snape casts the Doe Patronus.
Snape kills Dumbledore.

[7th movie]
Harry is on the run and gets to the lake where Snape's Doe appears.

So why would he cast it during the 6th movie and it appears in the 7th, is my question?

[random moon]

He cast it to show Dumbledore he still loved Lily sometime during or before the 6th movie.

At some point during the 7th movie, he casts it again to lead Harry to the sword.

I don’t get what’s hard to understand about that?

The Patronus charm he cast in the memory is not the same Patronus charm he cast to lead Harry to the sword

[fresh stratus]

Oh ok. I get it. I thought it was the same one.

Thank you!

[safe pewter]

what is the weed of hogwarts?

[warped thistle]

Do you mean Fluxweed? It's a plant used as an ingredient for the focus potion.

[lucid coral]

I’m drawing a blank. How did Snape know where the sword was? I know the fake one was in the vault at Gringotts, but way was the real one hidden in the lake?

[random moon]

Snape put it there per the instructions of Dumbledore’s portrait

He couldn’t give it directly to Harry in case Voldy discovered it though his bond to Harry

It was originally hidden behind Dumbledore’s portrait with the replica on display in his office as a decoy.

Then when it came time for Harry to need it for Horcruxes, the Portrait instructed Snape to give the real sword to Harry without Harry knowing it was from him

Therefore he hid it in that lake and had his Patronus guide Harry to it

[lucid coral]

Thank you! @random moon

[random moon]

You’re welcome!!

[lucid coral]

Any opinion on if Dumbledore was fully prepared to sacrifice Harry if that was the only way to destroy all the horcruxes?

[random moon]

Absolutely he was. The original plan was for himself to die “undefeated” (as he’d asked Snape to kill him, meaning he accepted death willingly) and the Elder Wand to lose its power.

But Draco disarmed him while he was weakened by the potion, which kind of ruined the original plan.

The only reason Harry survived the Killing curse is because he was the true master of the EW.

If Dumbledore’s original plan hadn’t been spoiled by Draco, Harry would have 109% died there and then and Dumbledore was fine with that if it means stopping Voldy

[lucid coral]

In a way. Draco unintentionally saved Harry’s life or at least altered the plan that would have led to Harry’s death… interesting

[random moon]

Yup!

[cinder oasis]

quick question, does a spell have a time limit? Like a I know a charm can last years upon years but does a curse last after a caster dies?

[modern moth]

In some way, yeah

[cinder oasis]

so it lose its full effect after the host dies but it still remains

[modern moth]

As I recall, most of the curses do vanish when the original caster dies or manually disabled it.

Like we got one person for two consective DADA teacher after the battle of Hogwarts

[cinder oasis]

if that's the case, if MC kills Rookwood before finishing Sebastian's quest, doesn't it mean Anne's curse could be lifted?

[modern moth]

Cliffhanger right here because we never know.

[cinder oasis]

hopefully they'll continue! they can't leave us hanging like this!

[modern moth]

We can only hope.

Again, like I said in the other chat, since this game's the best selling game in Febuary and this year up until now, it would be super unwise for them not to make more contents and a sequel

[cinder oasis]

I can't imagine company wrapping this up and saying, nope, on to the next

it would be quite stupid and quite frankly, I don't think anyone wants more death threats

[lucid coral]

Let’s hope so

[modern moth]

Yeah. some narritive contents and sequel is all I want to ask.

[lucid coral]

How about another 75 Merlin trials all the same type ☠️

That would be a cursed wish 😂

[modern moth]

oh hell no

[naive rock]

If Tom Riddle hated his name so much why did he make an anagram of it in Voldemort? That’s just Tom Riddle with extra steps mr voldy.

[dapper lark]

Probably did it for fun and then said wow I’m super clever.

Anagrams are fun to play around with.

[naive rock]

It is pretty clever ngl good on JKR

[random moon]

Curses like the one Rookwood put on Anne aren’t the kind that disappear with the original casters death.

Is seems more like a blood curse. Which continue regardless of if the original caster is alive or dead

[worthy trench]

Well he may have died outright. Its unclear. It may have just been cos HP chose to die and not fight in that moment that let him come back as AD says may have been the case. But after that yeah, if not for him being the EW's master, he'd be dead if he took on LV in a straight fight without shenanigans.

[woeful torrent]

kind of like nagini the snakes story or even astoria greengrass??

[worthy trench]

Yah, there's no indication her curse will end cos of his death. Its one she will carry the rest of her life unless its removed somehow.

Alas, it doesn't seem to be possible and if it is, its not known to wizardkind

It would seem not all curses can be broken in HP verse

[lone canopy]

Oh god no. To the dungeon with you!

What if, because of Isidora and her ancient magic powers, MC could have saved Anne.

Because doesn’t MC have those powers?

Port key plz hire me. I focus heavily on plot holes and I can fix them in a sequel

[random moon]

Isadoras spell only removed the ability to feel pain, and every other emotion.

No saying that would cure Anne as her pain was physical and due to a curse. I actually don’t think it would have helped and would have just left her as an empty husk unable to express physical pain, or any other emotion. Just empty

[lone canopy]

I am somehow feeling so attached to Anne lol

[gentle solar]

are vampires a thing?

[gray hawk]

In the Harry Potter world yes

[gentle solar]

Are they traditional vampires

[gray hawk]

Yep

We briefly see one in the blood prince

[gray hawk]

May I ask why you wanted to know that ?

Nothing bad just would like to know if your writing a fanfic

[gentle solar]

Because I’m a vampire irl the very spawn of Dracula and I wanna see if those books were for me

🤣😂

[gentle solar]

I was just curious

[solid folio]

I think he wanted his name to be feared. His pseudonym being an anagram makes it so he can have his name feared while not having to keep something he doesn't like

[worthy trench]

Ironically a name that reveals his fear of death

Gives himself a name that reminds him of the thing he fears above all

And anyone could learn he's TR if they took time to just re-arrange the letters

[solid folio]

That's just it. Why would they try to rearrange the letters when most people can't even muster the courage to speak his name? Even after he was supposed to be defeated

[hidden vine]

Hogwarts isn’t real

[worthy trench]

Someone could do it just for fun. Like a kid whp's good at anagrams or something but yah. Someone eventually would come along who has the courage to ignore the fear sorrounding his name.

[dapper lark]

Maybe dumbledore did and just didn’t tell anybody

[solid folio]

We all know the real reason was just so JK could have the surprise twist at the end of book 2 anyway tbf though

[formal jacinth]

I thought Voldemort's name was enchanted, so if you spoke his name, he would find you. That's why no one wanted to say his name.

[solid folio]

I think it was just in the last book where he had that? He knew only his enemies would say his name

[warped thistle]

Yea in the last book with the help of the ministry resources the name was tabooed and was trackable

[sly meadow]

https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/harry-potter-hbo-max-series-warner-bros-closing-deal-1235572610/

anyone seen this yet?

[misty ember]

what would they cover in the series that wasnt already in the movies?

[sly meadow]

well each season would be based on one book so that would cover more, but i don't think that's the point

[misty ember]

not complaining, just asking 😄

[sly meadow]

remakes are just for bringing stuff to a new audience etc. obviously gain more money too

[misty ember]

the more wizarding world the better

[sly meadow]

if they do it right this would last 7 years, but knowing hbo they tend to take a lot longer to create their tv series between each season

[misty ember]

if they do make it, hope it doesnt get cancelled after a season or two

[sly meadow]

if they hire 11 year olds to play in the first season they would end up being 20 by the time the last one comes out

if they make it good enough so people like it they wouldnt cancel it

[solid folio]

Probably more of the subplots like e.g. Nearly Headless Nick's deathday in CoS

Plus they can probably add their own material in too as filler

[coarse sparrow]

Voldemort should've just throw baby Harry out the window by levitating him but nah he did the hard way

[warped thistle]

I vaguely remember that for some reason magical children are more robust and less likely to hurt themselves physically. Like Neville falling quite a distance and the only thing that was injured was his wrist

[solid folio]

Don't they fall off their brooms from great heights in Quidditch and only come out with a broken arm or a sprain lol

[dapper lark]

Yeah, like his uncle algae dropped him from a second floor window I believe to test his magic.

[lone canopy]

I’d die happy if Craig Mazin was a show runner. His shows are awesome.

Hire a few Chernobyl actors. I could see Adam Nagaitis as Remus. Idk why. But to add onto this idea, Tonks could be played by Jessie Buckley who played Adam’s character’s wife in Chernobyl.

[flat zealot]

Here me out: Tonks is played by a different actor every episode, with something caracteristic we can use to know it is her

[lone canopy]

Good idea.

But I was just thinking for if Craig Mazin was the show runner.

Crap now I’m wondering what Hogwarts houses each Chernobyl person was in.

When my two special interests collide.

[urban pilot]

I wonder if we could get ahold of the key and claim vault 12 for ourselves?

[dapper lark]

It’d be pretty difficult. The only one who knew we had the key were the now dead banker and Ranrok’s goblins.

[urban pilot]

Hmmm you're right we never do pick it up do we its just left in the door. I had it in my head Figg retrieved it at some point

[coarse sparrow]

Imagine innocent people dying just to save one guy
I'm talking to you Harry

[worthy trench]

which guy?

[hollow marlin]

the only issue is that tonks tends to only change her hair not her full appearance

i know she does change her full, appearance like when she becomes the old lady but normally she changes the colour of her hair so it would make sense to change actress every times

[solid folio]

Would probably be similar to what they did with Neil Patrick Harris for Count Olaf

Lots of make up and costuming but still obvious it's the same actress playing her

[dim pawn]

We can't share screenshots here? Why? 😄 Wanted to share something interesting I found in-game

[dapper lark]

Have Neil Patrick Harris in the show would definitely be a good fix. Have Neil play all rolls. 🙃

[lone canopy]

I wonder why Ominis’ younger sister wasn’t in the game

She would’ve been a first year according to the HP wiki

[dapper lark]

Probably because she was evil so Ominis stayed a way from her.

[lone canopy]

Nothing two 7 year girls can’t fix /hj

I don’t condone violence

[urban pilot]

How big do you think the vivariums would actually be if they were real? A field, a city, an island? Personally I"m inclined to think they're an island in size and all link to different spots on it

[lone canopy]

I think it’s a huge island too

[solid folio]

It's the room of requirement so I guess as big as they need to be

[modern moth]

It's ROR, the only limit in there is your imagination.

[urban pilot]

Well are they part of the room of requirement or are they something someone lost. Does the room need an item available to provide it and has just had a lot dumped in it over the years or can it magically create anything out of nothing e.g. the vivariums or newt's suitcase?

[warped thistle]

As long as it's not one of the exceptions to Gamp's Law of Elemental Transfiguration like food, it can be created from nothing.

[urban pilot]

hmmm, I may need to add the room to the list of things wizards and witches casually gave intelligence to then abandoned to find its own way

[gray hawk]

Its me sorry guys i got a little too silly with the cruciatus curse 😔

[lone canopy]

Ominis: how are you a ravenclaw?

[gray hawk]

Im an absolute book and chess worm

Thats why

[lone canopy]

Ah yes. You can read, he can’t lol

Technically he can’t

[gray hawk]

That reminds me, how the hell does he do his school work ?

[lone canopy]

Not sure.

I don’t know how IEPs work at Hogwarts.

[gray hawk]

Like i get he has a special wand and shi, but i doubt he can read with it

Or if he does, he'll look absolutly ridicoulous while doing so

[lone canopy]

Oh my god my American education is speaking.

IEP = special education

[gray hawk]

Maybe special books or something

I like to think (but its more hc than actual lore) that there is some kind of ink that is able to project itself into the "reader's" minds

[lone canopy]

Or voice

[gray hawk]

I was so evil even slytherin couldn’t handle it so they put me with the truly deeply evil kids, the one born with darkness and crime in their veins, the kids that remind the teachers about the homework

[tiny flower]

This is is why I don’t understand how Slytherin gets all the hate

[modern moth]

Well, voldy for some reason.

[tiny flower]

Reminding teachers about homework is worse than Voldy

[dapper lark]

Maybe some sort of brail spell lol

[lone canopy]

Voldy: false

[tiny flower]

“He who shall not be named” is not as bad as “Words that shall not be said”

[gray hawk]

Thats why ravenclaws are the real villains

[tiny flower]

I agree

[solid folio]

Ron Weasley voice "Is he a wizard or not?"

I'm pretty sure they can get quills that write for you

Also howlers are a thing so it's not too much of a stretch for the professors to provide him a book that reads the text for him

Actually come to think of it why would ominis even have a need for writing stuff down besides his OWLs

[willow elbow]

If not quills It could also be because his wand naturally helps him. I know his wand helps him to travel around, idk why writing would be a challenge if he uses his wand instead of a pen/feather?

[solid folio]

It wouldn't be a challenge but why would he need to do it

[willow elbow]

He still needs to study and do homework?

[solid folio]

Studying would basically be making notes for his own benefit. Most likely he has an alternative system than traditional paper and quill.

For homework, surely the teachers could just formatively assess him in class instead.

Probably just reading too much into it but I think in the real world blind students would get some kind of braille keyboard to work with instead

[willow elbow]

Yeah I’m not sure. Professors could also give him alternate assignments that may not include as much writing and more demonstrating. He is a powerful wizard after all, so it could be he already knows a lot of the spells he is learning, along with potions, etc.

[solid folio]

Yeah like most of the subjects are practical anyway with the exception of arithmancy, history of magic, Muggle studies, possibly astronomy he wouldn't be required to do

Oh yeah as a fifth year they'd obviously assess him differently for OWLs

[lone canopy]

I had special needs accommodations in school, so I relate to Ominis so well

I’m not blind. I have epilepsy

[modern moth]

I think game intented epilepsy as a spell

[lone canopy]

Crucio maybe?

[modern moth]

🥶

[lone canopy]

Pretty sure crucio makes you confuse in pain.

Convulse

[urban pilot]

On the subject of crucio I am currently wondering if Salazar Slytherin did the same pain magic Isidora did. That door which opens to his sanctum is powered by pain and the black shifting coating on it is very similar to the black shifting coatiing Ranrock gets on his chest when threatening rookwood

[red stag]

WAIT, is pain magic what was used on Anne do you think?

[urban pilot]

No I think that was just a dark curse from Rookwood

but we know its what the goblins are using and it looks very similar to slytherin's door

[worthy trench]

The Slyherin door is unlocked using crucio, which causes pain when cast on the target and ends once the caster stops. Isadora's spell extracts emotional pain and all other emotions aswell leaving people in a vegatable-like state. Two completely different spells.

The curse used on Anne causes periodic physical weakness, fatigue and pain and doesn't stop after the caster dies. Also a different spell.

[tiny flower]

This is why we needed to sacrifice Rookwood and use the DA Relic, but nooo

[worthy trench]

I have a feeling its not that simple. Odds are its sacrifice a loved one. And thats assuming the Relic even does what is advertised without any sheninagans or twist etc. You can't trust a dark magic artefact to be as advertised when it comes to stuff like removing dark magic or curses. Thats against the nature of dark magic.

[lone canopy]

The quest line ended poorly.

[tiny flower]

It ended in an open-ended manner

If that’s it for Sebastian and we never hear from him again, then yea, poor ending. If they add dlc, it was a good ending

[worthy trench]

I don't think we will. I think the point the devs intended for the storyline was dark magic will lead to ruin or tragedy no matter how well intentioned

[tiny flower]

|| Idk about that. Even in the “bad” ending, our character still lives “happily ever after.” Same with Sebastian, unless you betray him. There’s room for a happy ending. ||

[worthy trench]

Well there's tradegy either way, he lost his uncle by his own hand and his sister in the process who no longer wants anything to do with him and he will have the guilt over for the rest of his life.

As for the MC, they lost their mentor, possibly their friend Seb if you turn him in, and depending on your choice may have either resigned themselves to a life of isolation as the Keeper or potentially become a dark wizard with power unseen since god knows how long and get imprisoned or killed down the line to preserve the canon timeline.

You'll either get bittersweet ending or a dark ending

[solid folio]

It doesn't really fit the canon either way since obviously the map chamber was never mentioned as being a part of hogwarts

I don't think the scriptorium was either

[worthy trench]

The endings can leave open many outcomes, ||either you become the Keeper and keep the map chamber secret or just destroy it, or hide it, the staff keep it all secret for the rest of their lives and tell no one else or if they do tell later staff, said staff kept it secret, and if you absorb the power, then the chamber being there is moot. The scriptorium is easily kept secret by Ominis and Seb and Anne, if she knows of it. Though tbh that place really should have been found along time ago given were the entrance is and how to reveal it. Just light some specific torches at once? How many people go down that corridor in need of a light? Many. Not the best hiding spot for an entrance to his maze puzzle.||

[urban pilot]

Do you think the stone portals we use a few times are one way or two way and can be used to come and go?

[tiny flower]

|| I’d never attempt to use ancient magic to cure Anne. You’ve seen what it does. ||

[urban pilot]

||Depends on what your doing probably. Isidora was taking away human emotion and the goblins were using that to empower their abilities. Here you'd be taking away a dark magic curse not touching Anne's personality directly.||

[tiny flower]

|| If I made her worse, it’d destroy the PeteSebOmini friendship. Can’t do it. ||

[urban pilot]

||So you're afraid . . . fair enough||

[tiny flower]

Y E S

[urban pilot]

Don't get me wrong just noting it. There's people who wont get a cure for something because they've lived with it their entire lives and afraid of change, not that they'll make things worse but just change.

[tiny flower]

Huh

[solid folio]

|| Sebastian would want you to try ||

[urban pilot]

Sequel bait idea we make the cursed vaults of hogwarts mystery to protect the pain repository

[flat zealot]

Wait... what makes you think that Isidora could have taken dark magic away? She just wanted to remove pain, which is the only link with Anne's curse...

[urban pilot]

That was my point we've only seen what ancient magic does in a vague way (building pillars and the vault at gringotts) or in the very specific way Isidora uses it. Using it to remove dark magic (if it even can) is not something we've seen even attempted so we don't actually know what it could or would do in that situation

[frank jewel]

Honestly I think Sebastians quest used to be a part of the main questline. Too many coincidences for them not to be. So I think they definitely wanted the 'remove pain' to be a parallel to what Anne was going through, and thus make the decisions your character makes much harder.
I think it's safe to say that removing Anne's pain with ancient magic would end in the same result, as that seems to be the whole point of the conflict they were trying to build with the two stories

[solid folio]

Also it's implied the keepers are showing us a specific viewpoint to persuade us that ancient magic is a bad idea

[urban pilot]

Oh I trust them about as far as my 15 year old girl character could physically throw ||their paintings. Everything about them rings warning bells. I have no doubt Isidora was causing problems with her drawing human emotion out of the people she "helped" but the keepers are very much we know better and we must impress it on whoever comes next. The trials to earn the right for knowledge where we risk our life, the fact they've had months to discuss us and the current situation yet they keep stalling to do so. Even the map chamber with its massive paintings looking down on you to reinforce the fact they are the larger than life authority and you the humble suplicant. I doubt their evil but they want you to seal keep the knowledge of ancient magic secret for the greater good and will do everything they can to ensure it.||

[solid folio]

Also (as pointed out by a video I watched) || it's mentioned Isidora's painting was burnt almost deliberately and yet Rookwood/Ranrok have almost nothing to gain by doing this as they only care about the repository. If anything they would be interested in finding out more ||

[worthy trench]

Yah from my understanding of current story of HM, we still don't know who made them or why, only who put the ||Crown of Myneme|| in ||the last vault|| and why and there's no idication they were made by them for that purpose.

[tiny flower]

|| Not if he knew the consequences and if it could make her worse. ||

[modern moth]

Looks like you guys are writing classified documents

[solid folio]

That's not really how Sebastian would think. He's kinda desperate and even if it was a 1% chance of success I think he would go for it

I mean he's willing to turn to the dark arts even

[tiny flower]

Dark Arts aren’t bad

[tiny flower]

Plus, || If he knew what it could do to her, I don’t think he’d do it. If he needs proof, I’ll take him to the pensieve at this point. ||

[flat zealot]

saying that after seeing Sebastian's fall is like Darth Vader saying "The dark side of the force doesn't corrupt".

Everybody except for Death eaters/Voldemort says the dark arts are bad, and a shortcut to power that ends up costing more than it is worth. Voldemort's answer to that is that they are too afraid of the power they contain, but the dark arts are undoubtedly corruptive. Just look at Voldemort himself, who is but a shadow of his pre-dark arts self.

In Hogwarts Legacy, we are once again served the same soup. Ominis warns that the dark arts corrupt, hence why he wants to stay as far from them as possible.

I don't see any reputable source showing/saying the dark arts don't corrupt, but plnety of things showing the opposite

[tiny flower]

Tell that to the keepers || Who happened to use it to stop evil. ||

Oh and tell that to Ron

[tiny flower]

And Voldemort wasn’t corrupt, he’s just naturally evil. His goal in life is to live forever, that’s not corruption. It’s what he’s wanted from young

I mean, he lacks the ability to even feel love.

[flat zealot]

Yup, I'm not saying they should never be used, simply that their cost often ends up to be far more than you believed. Being willing to use the dark arts, known to cause pain (as highlighted in their introduction in the wiki: The Dark Arts,[1] also known as Dark Magic,[2][3] or Dark Side[4] was a term that referred to any type of magic that was mainly used to cause harm to, exert control over, or even kill people and creatures.), might cause dependance (**The Dark Arts were generally regarded as corrupting to those who use them (which is part of the reason they are called "dark"). **) in an effort to defeat a dark curse (which is not even within what we know it does) based on the word of an old dude known for being frankly quite evil, seems like quite bad mental decay

[tiny flower]

|| Bakar seemed alright. Ron seemed alright. It all had to do with the wielder. ||

[flat zealot]

I was talking physically. He was always evil, but his outside changed to match his inside, robbing him of part of his manipulation skillset.

[tiny flower]

Omg and snape

I almost forgot about that

[flat zealot]

And both of them only used the dark arts very rarely. They didn't use them willy nilly, but evaluated when they should be used before using them. As for Bakar, he is horrified after having done it, but it is clear he thinks it was necessary

[flat zealot]

are you saying snape is mentally stable?

[tiny flower]

Snape used it

I mean, yes

Sure, he’s a bit angry and depressed, but that’s not the Dark Arts fault

[flat zealot]

Well... Snape in the first war is shown differently than in the second, and we don't know what is part of what. We rarely see him use the dark arts, mostly his own spells.

[tiny flower]

I’m only thinking about Avada. If we’re talking, Dark Arts even Harry used them

[flat zealot]

But once again, any evidence that some people immersed themselves in the dark arts and were not corrupted? Like Sebastian started going through the books to see if he could find a mention of what attacked his sister, and ended up learning all three unforgiveables, and using them when anything else would have worked

Yup, but not extensively, which is my point.

There are plenty of people who drank alcohol and are not alcoholic. Plenty of people who drink alcohol and can drive afterwards. But it is shown as well that alcohol clouds the mind and can cause dependance.

[tiny flower]

|| Well, Sebastian used Imperio and Avada Kedavra once in my playthrough. ||

[flat zealot]

yet still used imperio reflexively? When any other curse would have worked?

[tiny flower]

|| He didn’t use it to do “evil” with, he used it to save his sister. ||

[flat zealot]

Bombarda? Would have worked. Expelliarmus? as well. Levioso? idem. Glacius? yes. Confringo? Yes, and he said previously it is his favorite spell. descendo? Yes. arresto momentum? Yes. Transfiguration? Yes. Depulso? Yes. Accio? yes

[flat zealot]

Hell is paved with well meaning thoughts

[tiny flower]

Idk, the Devil is a bit selfish

[flat zealot]

Doesn't matter, what this means is that you can mean well and do horrible things.

Isidora didn't mean to rob people of their feelings either

[tiny flower]

She’s the definition of corruption

When it comes to this game

[solid folio]

Idk we're given a biased perception of her

[flat zealot]

kind of, yeah, but people still open the receptacle.

[tiny flower]

|| Despite seeing the harm she was causing, she was still blind. Sebastian saw the fault in his mistakes immediately when they went south. ||

[flat zealot]

Like she's not even that corrupted.

[tiny flower]

|| And tbh, the Uncle attacked us, so I can’t see this as a mistake. ||

[flat zealot]

nope. He said directly 'I needed to do that'. 'What have you done?'.

He only recognized them when he was confronted with the consequences of his actions. He didn't lament what he did, but how people reacted to it.

[flat zealot]

Let me hope you're never attacked by someone trying to restrain you rightfully, then. Like the uncle attacked with restraining spell when he controlled and woke up an army of inferii not a kilometer away from a village

can you see how badly that could/should have turned?

[tiny flower]

It’s a natural human response to try and justify something you recently did. You don’t automatically go “Dang, shouldn’t have done that.”
It requires a bit of thought, because after all || The uncle DID attack us ||

[flat zealot]

He didn't even know what he did, and it is clear that Slytherin lied about what it did.

[flat zealot]

but even then, when you first confront him in the undercroft, possibly days later, he still says "I had to do it".

[tiny flower]

|| Levitating me above AND dropping me into Inferi, attacking two students INSTEAD of Inferi… that’s a bit rude imo ||

[flat zealot]

he also attacks the inferii, iirc

[tiny flower]

That’s not what I saw…

|| I think deep down you miss Sebastian ||

[flat zealot]

And he doesn't drop you in the inferii either. Once you're levitated, he just ignores you. You drop afterwards because the game needs you to be able to miss a dodge in that phase

[tiny flower]

Also, he uses some deadly spells on me that I’ve killed a few poachers with…

[flat zealot]

Sebastian is one of the characters that make me rue the fact this wasn't in a ttrpg campaign. I would have sided with Ominis much sooner, stunned him in the catacombs, and taken the relic. Then, I would have tried to discuss things rationaly with him, and make him do an unbreakable vow that he isn't going to do any dark magic again without talking it with Ominis/me first.

[flat zealot]

only after you got him to half health.

like you send him things like transfigured inferii to the head, confringo, diffindo,... and he is still convinced he can take you on without hurting you, so does so. After you roughed him up a lot, he realises he will have to knock you unconscious and gets rougher.

[tiny flower]

|| Not to mention that Solomons arrogance, something he bashed Sebastian for, caused the Inferi to turn on us in the first place. ||

[flat zealot]

Like between the 3 companions, Sebastian is only a smidgen above Natty in my opinion. He is rash, like his uncle, racist, unable to take a step back, and likes to run into battle. He is the perfect example of a gryffindor dunderhead, and the only thing that makes me like him slightly more than Natty is that he has a reason for acting stupid.

Sebastian should have been forced to swear that unbreakable vow in Slytherin's scriptorium.

And never allowed to leave with the relic. But we can't do that, can we?

[tiny flower]

Oh, not this “racist” thing again…

[flat zealot]

The only way he is truly useful to us is in unmasking Isidora's side of the keeper/isidora conflict

[tiny flower]

He’s literally there most helpful character in the game

[flat zealot]

well... having tried it, he still wants to kill as many goblins as possible, including at the possible expense of his life, after beign told goblins were not responsible for his sister

[tiny flower]

Before* not after

[flat zealot]

fig?

[flat zealot]

After. I tried that

Only before if you rush to him. I did his entire storyline after the main quest, to check what would happen

I told him about ||Rookwood|| before even imperio.

I'd much rather have Poppy on my side than Sebastian

[tiny flower]

You did it out of order then. There’s a set way to play the missions, that’s why they unlock at a certain point

Idk how though, tbh

[flat zealot]

and you can ignore that. Most games plan for it.

[tiny flower]

You have to complete his stories to advance the main story

[flat zealot]

nope

[tiny flower]

Some of them, you do

[flat zealot]

only his main quest stories, those linked to Isidora

you don't need any of the ones linked to Slytherin

[tiny flower]

His main quests are the only ones where he fights Goblins

[flat zealot]

nope

[tiny flower]

If there’s others, which one is it?

[flat zealot]

imperio, remember it? The village is bursting with goblins afterwards.

But even then, if you encounter goblins on your way, which you can do, it will happen

[tiny flower]

Ok, well, “racist”, as you call him, or not, I can see why he’d want to rush in and kill Goblins

[flat zealot]

you do know you can abuse companion quest to gain companions for some time?

[flat zealot]

yes, but not necessarily insulting "honnest goblins" at the same time.

he insults lodgok after his death in one of his side quests, iirc

[tiny flower]

|| Lodgok was a bit of an idiot ||

[flat zealot]

anyways, we likely won't agree, but to go back to the main point, you have given me example of people who drank a little wine, and were fine afterwards. They might have drunk and driven, and were fine.

There are tons of examples of such cases with drinking and driving. It is still clearly not something you should do.

Same goes with dark magic.

[tiny flower]

That’s where we’ll disagree, as we always have lol

[worthy trench]

Actually Seb attacked him first. Solomon took the relic and destroyed it, then Seb shot a spell at him, then the fight occurred.

[tiny flower]

He shouldn’t have destroyed the relic

[worthy trench]

Relic was too dangerous to be kept intact. He should have done it after they got out of the cavern, not while in midst of inferi. That was a dumb move

[lone canopy]

And I’ve recklessly driven about an hour after a seizure.

It was a go kart. I was at my friend’s house and I begged his mom to let me drive the go kart

Even though she knew I had just had a seizure while in the pool

[warped thistle]

There is no should or shouldn't. There is only power and those too weak to seek it.

[urban pilot]

I did not know that, can you do that with Fig as I'd like to keep him around if possible

[lone canopy]

Keep him alive as long as possible.

[flat zealot]

You might be able to during rookwood castle quest. However, it depends on how much freedom they decided to give you.

[urban pilot]

ah i'm already past that unfortunately

[tiny flower]

So what do you do exactly? Start a mission with a companion and just free roam?

[brave echo]

Looks like I got my wish.

HBO announced a harry Potter series

https://youtu.be/o07u0uKkV_g

[solid folio]

It should be interesting

Don't hold your breath until we find out who's directing and acting in it though

The Witcher series was ruined by the directors after all

[flat zealot]

It works for a few quests, but you cannot free roam too far, nor can you teleport. You can still fight other ennemies, and capture bandit camps.

[tiny flower]

How can they do this to us?

[dusty rock]

Ya but jk still retains creative control. Unlike the witcher writer who signed away all his creative control and royalty rights years ago and still rages about it all these years later

[flat zealot]

JKR is not really a good movie writer.

Don’t get me wrong, she’s a pretty good book writer, just not necessarily good at writing movies…

[lone canopy]

Praying Craig Mazin is the show runner just to have the possibility of Chernobyl costars working together again

I could see Adam Nagaitis and Jessie Buckley being Remus and Tonks respectively

[solid folio]

Yeah Andrej Sapkowski made a huge blunder

Like they would've given him royalties and he chose a flat 10k instead

It's not fair to back out and say you want the royalties when you weren't willing to take the risk to begin with

[solid folio]

Stephen fry as Dumbledore

Fingers crossed

[flat zealot]

Here me out: Ian McKellen as Dumbledore

[frank jewel]

I would actually love that

If we have Fry we gotta get Laurie too so we can have A bit of Fry and Laurie 😁

[modern moth]

I'm so down for that.

[flat zealot]

And he's brittish, on top of that. I would have liked to see Christopher Lee, but Ian McKellen would be a good replacement, if very different

[modern moth]

Sadly. Sir Christopher Lee has passed away.

[flat zealot]

Yup, hence why I suggested Ian

[solid folio]

Laurie should be professor Snape haha

Hear me out, he apply his character from House where he was very good at playing a dry, sarcastic type character it would fit well with Snape

[frank jewel]

I can't see it, but at least it would mean they would have some lines together

Unless Laurie plays McGonagall

[solid folio]

I guess it kinda depends on which version of Laurie you're thinking of. He made a career out of playing camp eccentric characters but he also can be the complete opposite if you look at what he does in House

I think his ability to deliver some funny sarcastic put downs to the students would make him work

[frank jewel]

I've seen him on both sides

[solid folio]

An alternative could be playing Peeves too

[frank jewel]

both his over the top characters in Blakcadder and A bit of Fry And Laurie, and multiple seasons of House

[solid folio]

But then Peeves you'd have to give a lot of screen time for

[frank jewel]

Peeves is a good one, though maybe a bit old haha

I do hope they stick to English actors as much as possible like in the movies though

[solid folio]

Miranda Hart for Professor Trelawney

[frank jewel]

Hagrid is gonna be a tough one

[solid folio]

Yeah that's a very tough one to follow up

Tbh Alan Rickman is also

[modern moth]

Basically every characters who had a major role in the movies will have a hard time selecting cast.

[solid folio]

That would never happen

[frank jewel]

True, but I think some will be easier than others. But some of the actors are definitely more iconic than the others

[solid folio]

Ian McKellen is too proud to act for TV

[modern moth]

It never hurt to just wish for.

[solid folio]

The only reason he did Gandalf was because he respects Tolkien

It's just not his nature to do films/TV otherwise

[frank jewel]

He's also like 80? If they plan on going with the show for 10 years then there's a high risk of a repeat of what happened in the movies

[solid folio]

That too but I think he's too proud to agree to it anyway he's a classical actor

[modern moth]

You need someone old enough to be Dumbledore but also not old enough to cast the role until Season 6 finish...lol\

[solid folio]

That's why I think Fry could work

Daniel Craig could be another option for an older character but not Dumbledore he's a bit too rough

[frank jewel]

Fry is 60ish and honestly a perfect fit

he has that aura of wisdom around him

[solid folio]

Fry has the wisdom but also the eccentricity to play Dumbledore

[frank jewel]

Yep

[modern moth]

What about Martin Freeman

Simon Pegg?

[frank jewel]

Not dumbledore, but they could definitely play someone else

[solid folio]

Martin Freeman... Idk

[modern moth]

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say

[frank jewel]

Maybe Nick Frost could be Hagrid haha

[solid folio]

I'm not seeing anything for him tbh

David Tennant is a good fit in the universe too

Ik he played Barty but he can definitely play another role

[frank jewel]

Not seen Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz?

[modern moth]

Do you think they are gonna do a mass audition like the movie did

[frank jewel]

I kind of doubt it, but they also need a bajillion kids, so maybe

[modern moth]

Well, I can only think of few British actors and actress for being a Chinese.

[solid folio]

I meant for Martin Freeman

Simon Pegg even voices Prof Black in HL so he'd definitely be qualified to take on a role

He portrays him quite well because he comes across as a clumsy headmaster but in a funny way

[modern moth]

Yeah, it was a brief, but I like his performance, especially during polyjuice plan

[flat zealot]

What about Radcliffe as Dumbledore?

[frank jewel]

Not at all

If Radcliffe anything he should be a short cameo

[modern moth]

Original trio are definetly old enough to cast the 19 years later scene naturally.

Right?

[frank jewel]

That would be terrible imo hahah

they shouldn't reprise their roles, they should if anything be one of cameo characters

[flat zealot]

yup, or be in a completely different role. Like having Emma Watson as Bellatrix Lestrange (if they can pull it off...)

[modern moth]

She did( kinda)

[solid folio]

Too young

He's old enough to play a teacher but not the headmaster

[flat zealot]

have you seen how good prostetics can be?

[solid folio]

Hmmm but using prosthetics to make him look older for a major side character instead of using an older actor doesn't sit right with me

[lone canopy]

I keep looking at Adam Nagaitis for Lupin.

And now I’m thinking of his Chernobyl character as one of the marauders.

[sly meadow]

I'm pretty excited about the TV series. Really hope they get good actors though.

[lone canopy]

If theres any video game that deserves a movie it’s this.

🥲

I’d totally try out for Anne though.

[sour coral]

did they ever bring back herminees dog?

i loved him...

[modern moth]

agreed

[hidden vine]

hogwarts isnt real

[elfin prawn]

what? noooo 😦

[onyx saffron]

Well, that would explain why I never received my letter

[dapper lark]

Nah, dobby was stealing your mail

[dull mason]

Dabby

[tiny flower]

You didn’t receive a letter?

Muggles.

[dull mason]

Dabby ate them all

[tiny flower]

Your profile is so Slytherin, yet you’re a Ravenclaw

[sour coral]

who among us know barry potter

[dull mason]

Is that him?

[sour coral]

look closer

"not i" its hcristmas!

[dull mason]

SNIFF mmmm smellls greeat!

[sour coral]

....
🦾 ---o
....👖

he is the grifindor beast

mods pin that

https://tenor.com/view/pharoah's-curse-pharoah-curse-gif-9768609729181577113

[honest palm]

Welp, here comes my annual “Yer not a wizard, Ben” depression

[broken hull]

sorry for replying to an old comment but why harry potter as dumbledore?

[flat zealot]

Don’t you want a little more cognitive dissonance in your life?

[broken hull]

sorry but what tf does cognitive dissonance mean lol.

[flat zealot]

Like a « dressed as harry potter » Daniel Radcliffe, with an obviously fake beard, that everyone calls Albus Dumbledore and everyone treats as Albus Dumbledore, investigating Harry Potter’s disappearance ?

[broken hull]

first time in like years i didnt understand an english word

aah that

[flat zealot]

Correction, it has to be in regards to your actions, so not applicable here, sorry.

[broken hull]

oooh ahah

[flat zealot]

My bad, misstranslated a concept

[broken hull]

still what you mentioned earlier happens to me so many times lol. not to long ago i almost fell on my ass cuz i was playing vr and i wanted to lean against the irl wall which i knew was there but since i moved around i almost fell. and another time i wanted to put down my controllers on a virtual desk lol

[flat zealot]

I want to torture my brain with the fact that this is obviously Harry Potter, but ALSO obviously Dumbledore

[broken hull]

i mean it would be nice to see dan return but then make him a cameo or play himself as an adult

[flat zealot]

Heard a story from a VR place where a guy tried to lean into a railing at the very start of a team building, lost his footing, banged his head on a metal post, and had to be brought to the hospital via ambulance…

[flat zealot]

Where is the fun in that?

[broken hull]

i dont think it would be a positive thing for the series if they made him play dumbledore

[flat zealot]

Or Adult Daniel Radcliffe as 11 years old Harry Potter, with all other newcomers bare the trio played by 11 yo?

[broken hull]

true but like i just said it wouldnt be good for the series if dumbledore was portrait by harry potter lol. just look at the new season for the netflix series crown. where the actress for umbridge plays lizzy and everyone is saying they can only see umbridge in her

[flat zealot]

And? That’s where you have to just lean extremely hard into it…

[broken hull]

no like actually have the og trio play themselves in the last cutscene at 9 3/4

[flat zealot]

If you pivot into it enough, you might get quite good absurd moments…

[flat zealot]

Why play themselves? Once again, are we really going for realism? Wouldn’t it be better to just go for completely surreal things?

[broken hull]

fair enough

but like if they actually where to star i'd like to see them play the adult versions of their characters

either way regardless of wether or not they appear at all in the series im for sure gonna watch it lol

[warped thistle]

Why would it be better

[flat zealot]

Why not? We get tons and tons of gritty shows nowadays, why not a fun and light hearted one?

[warped thistle]

The people who are making it probably are counting on making money from it can counting on old harry potter fans. Not sure full on fun and whimsical is what most want.

Some fun and light heartedness here and there sure, (people loved fred and george), but if people think Harry Potter, comedy is not the first thing that comes to their minds

[white prism]

Preachhhhh

So tired of feeling more depressed after watching TV

Or getting my heart stomped on

Like Picard season 3

[warped thistle]

I think capitalizing on nostalgia will be a safer bet than trying to do a marvel-esque spin on the hp-universe

[flat zealot]

Why Marvel-esque and not Python-esque?

[warped thistle]

Thought marvel-esque would be more viable because the comedy is only sprinkled in here and there. Full on python-esque like mainly focused on comedy would be too radical of a shift - very risky hit or miss

[white prism]

The books start whimsical and get more dark as each book passes

If they truly want to be faithful to the books they will follow this lead

[warped thistle]

Do they? I remember them always starting depressing, at the beginning the reader was always reminded that this special protagonist orphan is being abused and neglected by the last relatives he has.

[worthy trench]

More like the magic world starts whimsical and gets darker as we see how it operates gov wise and the racism in it and corruption etc

[solid folio]

It's possibly also to do with it being written from Harry's perspective

As Harry grows more mature he starts seeing the world in a darker way

It's no accident that Cedric's death and Voldemort's return happens in Harry's fourth year which would basically be a coming of
age type year for wizards

[worthy trench]

yah that too

though some parts of DH are from other povs or from omniscient pov like ch 1 of DH

[ripe nebula]

im not a big quidditch lore person but and i dont know if there is a cannon explanation for why the snitch is worth 150 points but i think i might know why back in the earlier days of quidditch there was no snitch but there was also another sport called snijit (i dont know how to spell the bird name) hunting which caught incredibly fast and is what the golden snitch was made to imitate so 1 day in a quidditch game a guy whose name i cant remember let a snitch into the quidditch game and said he would give 150 galleons to the player who caught the snijit but they couldnt just make quidditch catch the snijit so they made catching the snijit worth 150 points so that migth be where they got the 150 point for catching the snitch from, the 150 galleons given to the person who caught the snijit

[dapper lark]

They should’ve revised it in later years to make the game less unbalanced. The snitch is basically an instant win button unless the rest of your team is totally outclassed like the World Cup. Should have made the snitch be worth like 50 points.

[flat zealot]

*snidget

And yes, they probably should have made it differently, but also, why are their goals worth 10 points? Like why do you count in increments of ten and not 1?

[ripe nebula]

prob so that the goal aren't even more redundant

[ripe nebula]

i think its better for it to be worth 100 point i think 50 is not enoguh since you need to remember that the game arent the 30min at most games thatt we read and see in the movie a lot of games last hours and sometimes days and the longesrt ever game was almost a month if i remember correcxtly so the snitch isnt was easy to catch as harry makes it out to be

[solid folio]

There was a situation iirc in a former quidditch world cup were a team was down by more than 150 points so the seeker was defending against the snitch so the other team couldn't catch it

The snitch would make more sense if it was worth only 50 points instead though then it makes the game strategy more interesting

[solid folio]

In a modern ruleset they would add a time limit on also

Kinda like how cricket has a T20 format

[tardy sluice]

This might be a dumb question but is the snitch an instant winner or does it js give you 150 points....how can you win without the snitch?

[warped thistle]

No.
Yes.
By having a 160 or higher point lead while the opponent's seeker catches it.

[solid folio]

Two schools of thought with that.

A 16 goal lead is basically a blowout so you might just want to end the game anyway.

Or, nobody is gonna be that unaware of the game situation since the captain can tell the seeker to hold off

Also, I hope with the game they have 5 v 5 multiplayer matches or it's a missed opportunity

[thick crown]

None

[warped thistle]

@primal topaz spamming the same message into all channels

[grim falcon]

So, dumb question.

Can Reparo fix a pair of shoes that are practically coming apart at the seams?

[modern moth]

I thought reparo can literally fix everything( in a way)

[worthy trench]

No,not all things. It can’t seem to repair a vanishing cabinet and it can’t repair something damaged by fiendfyre or other powerful curses. Also it can’t repair living tissue. And only one wand can use it to repair other wands

[faint kayak]

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[pine idol]

those are so pretty, if i was still engaged i'd get one 💀

[mossy coyote]

im sad cuz i wanted some sort of nuance or positive details on salazar, but so far he really is the creepy evil man that the books always said he was. like, that room thing with ominis?? jesus

[modern moth]

He just have different opinion with other three.

He thought Hogwarts is not for Muggle-born while other three thought it is.

So Salazar believes staying here will not benefit his idea, so he left, with a little surprise of his own.

[mossy coyote]

He also left behind a death trap of a room AND a murderous basilisk that would only spare pure bloods. And lest we forget, this is a school. For children.

I was really hoping for something to redeem Salazar, especially since this game isn’t attached to Harry and therefore free of his limited POV, but man, that quest killed me

[white prism]

One thing that may help is, everyone is the hero of their own story

So to Salazar he was doing the best he could muster in the defense of wizardkind, he may have even held an opinion that was common during his time and the other three founders could have been the weird ones

[warped thistle]

Least downplaying Slytherin member: Salazar did nothing wrong really, the founders just had a polite disagreement and Salazar left a murderous creature in the castle full of children and teenagers :P

[modern moth]

Well, he thinks Muggle-born are unworthy( blood status man)

[warped thistle]

True. That's what he thinks.

[warm ivy]

Well didn't the people kill witches and wizards back there just for who they are?

[modern moth]

Muggle

Witch hunt across European countries during 14th century I think

[warm ivy]

Yeah they were alive during that period

[misty ember]

who, the hogwarts founders? no, they were not 😄

hogwarts was founded in the 10th century

[warm ivy]

I find it odd that the other founders were accepting of half bloods but then again the students were children

[modern moth]

Do they?

[warm ivy]

I mean they got into a disagreement with salazar because wanted to kill all the half bloods

[modern moth]

No, others got into a disagreement with Salazar because Salazar thought: 1, muggle-born should not be accepted into Hogwarts; 2, students should not hesitate to use deadly curses when necessary.

And he's extremely pissed with Godric Gryffindor.

[warm ivy]

Then he leaves a snake so that his descendants can kill children lol

[modern moth]

Only those who think unworthy

[warm ivy]

Yes

[mossy coyote]

Update: the HPFanfic subreddit is gold. They pointed out in a post how it’s very possible that salazar’s specific concerns 1000 years ago were not the exact concerns of blood purity in hog warts legacy or in HP’s time. And when we consider the fact that the letter we find in hog warts legacy is written In contemporary English, it’s kind of sus

So I do think salazar was probably nuanced and not quite a POS, and later on his descendants probably screwed with things. I don’t think he personally would construct a room where people would starve to death in his own castle with three of his powerful besties also living in that castle.

[modern moth]

Yeah, that's what I intent to believe.

[mossy coyote]

Also, someone else on Reddit pointed out how Salazar might’ve been from Spain, and that during the time period of 900 ish AD, Scotland was being raided by the Norsemen.

So you guys

Catholic Salazar Slytherin from Spain

[solid folio]

Salazar is a Spanish name yeah

[mossy coyote]

Olé

[solid folio]

But how do you explain the chamber of secrets

That was 100% made by him as only descendants of Salazar speak parseltongue

Maybe it's possible other descendants misappropriated it to store the basilisk

[misty ember]

wasnt it stated that Salazar personally left the basilisk in there?

and if so, if he was not a bad guy, why even leave him there?

[modern moth]

He mistrusted Muggle-born students to the point of proposing that they should not be accepted at Hogwarts. When he expressed his opinion to the other Hogwarts founders, they did not agree with him. In response, he left the school, never to return, and constructed the Chamber of Secrets to house a Basilisk, so that one day, the Heir of Slytherin could purge the school of Muggle-borns in his name.

[solid folio]

Yeah I don't think there is anything nuanced about that

That's a clear signal of intent

[modern moth]

I think the disagreement with Godric Gryffindor finally result him doing such a rational solution.

[mossy coyote]

I don’t think Salazar was like a perfectly soft sugar donut who could do no wrong. I absolutely think he had a bit of Mega Jerk in him to put it lightly

But I also want to think his thoughts on what was a “threat to wizard kind” wouldn’t align much with what Voldemort or other modern blood purists would think. And I also wanna think he had some redeeming qualities

Some explanation I’ve seen for the basilisk is that it was a defense against Nordic invasion

[flat zealot]

If we want to go into fanon stuff, yeah, indeed, there are two possible explanations for the basilisk:

• Being there to protect the school, not attack the students, and then becomming mad due to lack of contact/prolonged contact with Voldemort
• Being put there by someone else.

[warped thistle]

Yes some did. But it's safe to assume the eleven year olds who displayed magic ability who were potential hogwarts students weren't part of them.

Also the state of believing a proposition is not something one arrives at by a voluntary/intentional action.
The process of adopting a belief is becoming convinced by something, either by good or by bad reasons.
One can intend to act as if one beliefs something even if one really doesn't, but you can't really just choose a belief

[flint condor]

I think you would be correct in saying Slytherin's concerns 1000 years ago are not the exact same ones we see in Harry Potter, in the sense that Slytherin didn't hate muggle borns because they were inherently filthy, but because they committed a lot of atrocities on wizardkind.

I think if Slytherin met the Malfoys, maybe he would've tolerated them, but the Malfoys seem to just hate muggle-born wizards because they have muggle blood and that's that. Slytherin seemed to hate them because muggles did a lot of awful things to wizards, so not exactly for the same reasons as the Malfoys, wouldn't you say?

So, I think there is some nuance in his views, but Slytherin is definitely evil for leaving the basilisk to murder muggle-borns. It's almost as if he left it out of spite for the other founders, since no one agreed with him, especially Gryffindor. I would not, however, fault Slytherin for being mega pissed about what the muggles did to his kind. To my understanding, Slytherin experienced these cruelties first hand.

I'd still oppose Slytherin for blaming evil on innocent children, though, which is what the other founders did. Obviously, that's not good 😆

[drowsy dagger]

These chat gpt scripts are amazing ... lol jk

[flint condor]

https://tenor.com/view/the-neighborhood-cedric-the-entertainer-you-got-that-right-yeah-youre-right-gif-16975254

None of the work, all of the content 😎

[mossy coyote]

Hey fam. Ollivander’s was in diagon alley for Harry right? Or am I crazy

[dapper lark]

You’re not crazy. They probably put it in Hogsmeade so they wouldn’t need to make a diagon alley. Since Hogsmeade is right by the castle and Diagon Alley is like in the middle of muggle land.

[solid folio]

If we are talking about real world history, children that were suspected of witchcraft would've almost certainly been shunned from society

Possibly even persecuted just like adults

Ultimately though the whole witch trial move was just a front to negatively discriminate against certain people that "looked" like witches

[mossy coyote]

Let’s just hand wave it and say the store moved to diagon alley later

[solid folio]

Isn't it implied that the store owner is a relative?

Maybe it's just a family business that spans Britain

Relative as in an uncle rather than directly their father

Logistically it makes sense to set up a wand shop there anyway like students are definitely going to be breaking or losing wands constantly

[dapper lark]

It is an easy hand wave. Stores tend to move.

[mossy coyote]

i cannot deal
chain store ollivanders

yessss

[warped thistle]

We are talking about HP lore in which these muggle born magical children not only as you rightly say would be persecuted by muggles but also face the scorn of bigots like Salazar because he would irrationally hate these children as well for something they didn't do. So much so that he would let loose a monster to murder them.

[worthy trench]

I read somewhere in canon lore, that Salazar's belief was not the norm at the time period.

Yep - found it - Slytherin’s discrimination on the basis of parentage was considered an unusual and misguided view by the majority of wizards at the time. WizardingWorld.net

[worthy trench]

It was written in current english so we the players could read it. Canonically it would be in Latin or Bythonic or anglo-saxon runes or something.

[white prism]

Can you post the link?

[worthy trench]

https://www.wizardingworld.com/writing-by-jk-rowling/pure-blood

[white prism]

My current theory/headcanon is that certain magical texts have the ability to choose if they want to be read or have that decision be made by their author and can either auto-translate themselves to be more intelligible or more obfuscated

Which is why a man that would have spoken in middle English at best had notes in the scriptorium that could be read by modern children

Because jk Rowling really seems to want us to understand slytherins intentions as being malicious

[white prism]

Man, taken at face value this article blows so much out of the water

[white prism]

Especially this

[sinful stratus]

is there any connection between the mckinnon wizard family and the mckinnon muggle family?

[flint condor]

I mean, yeah, not everyone has to be the sweetest sugarplum at heart, some people are bad xD

[tranquil barn]

I'm a huge Harry Potter fan and just started the game today and I was wondering if the Rookwood we are told about in the beggining is some sort of ancestor to a death eater cause this name rings a bell

[dapper lark]

Yep.

[tranquil barn]

Nice thanks

[magic isle]

so i have a theory that ronenlad actually opened up the map chamber to the keepers? then he killed the fifth keeper which is why we never see him in game?

[sour coral]

sure dude, you do you 😒

[dull mason]

||isn't the 5th keeper at the bottom of the well? it would explain the ringing i hear when i'm close||

[sour coral]

||its the pharoahs curse isnt it||

[magic isle]

ok. i try and promote healthy discussion in the lore channel and get people like you being rude. not sure what sparked this malicious behaviour but it sure isn't welcome in this community

[sour coral]

https://tenor.com/view/pharoah's-curse-pharoah-curse-gif-9768609729181577113

[modest girder]

Does anyone recognize the symbolism on this stained glass?

Specifically the dot counts on the starburst above the moon

[magic isle]

the semi eclipsed moon stands for the unity of beastfolk and werewolves in the harry potter lore. i assume it is an easter egg to do with the minitours in the forest and werewolf secret if you play inside the forbidden forest at midnight?

[sour coral]

yes. thats right.

[modest girder]

Ooh okay, clock hands

[sour coral]

you got it, dont forget about the minitours though

[solid folio]

Looks like the symbol of Islam?

Doubt they would go that far though

[magic isle]

islam doesn't exist in the harry potter universe. mohamid was burned at the stake in the salem witch trials

[solid folio]

Nintendo did something like that for a Zelda game and they had to remove it

[dull mason]

Akim... WTF!? that's not true

[magic isle]

look it up...

[solid folio]

Source?

I doubt JK would have something like that canon

Anyway I think the resemblance is a coincidence

[dull mason]

Akin, you have some serious explaining to do bubby

[solid folio]

I think it's safe to assume religion doesn't exist in the wizarding world though there are no references to anything

[sour coral]

gunther is typing! everyone hold on to your horses.

sorry gunther didnt see you there lol

a reply would be nice

[dull mason]

slipperin... if you need a reply. maybe say please?

[solid folio]

Reply to what exactly

[sour coral]

um me

[solid folio]

But there's nothing to reply to

[sour coral]

how rude

[dull mason]

guys. just. please get along.

[solid folio]

Ah this is incorrect apparently the wizards celebrate Christmas

[sour coral]

thats you

you know what

i forgive you

that was really hard to say

[solid folio]

I'm happy to discuss the lore with you here 🙂

[magic isle]

found it

[solid folio]

Counter evidence : https://harrypotter.fandom.com/wiki/Islam#cite_note-wikipedia-1

[sour coral]

this is a fanmade website lol

[magic isle]

ok well jk rowling herself said otherwise

[solid folio]

That was at 1700 years old though

[magic isle]

he's magic idiot

[sour coral]

gunther its ok

[solid folio]

And wouldn't it contradict the quran anyway

[solid folio]

You can scrutinise the linked sources on the wiki if you wish

[sour coral]

gunther we're on the same side

but i for one believe islam to be false (as far as harry wanders)

[magic isle]

you can't argue with what's on pottermore though. these are jks writings

not so made up wiki page

[solid folio]

The wiki is pointing out names of characters and a brand from Pakistan in one of the films

[magic isle]

wiki

a website that anyone can edit

[solid folio]

Well as I said you're welcome to check the sources if you're unsure

[magic isle]

how can you be unsure after i sent you source material?

[solid folio]

Potter more is fine too but that was 1700 years after the quran would've been written so I don't think it's evidence that Islam wouldn't exist

It's just saying that that's what happened to him

I am quite surprised JK wrote it actually

[dull mason]

maybe they thought it to be taboo?

[sour coral]

almost unbelievable you could say

[solid folio]

The Salem trials were done by the west presumably

[magic isle]

i guess anything is possible in the harry potter universe

[solid folio]

If anything it should have sparked a war

Maybe it did who knows

[sour coral]

this is not a coincidence

[magic isle]

maybe, as far as i'm aware that's the only lore that she wrote about it

[solid folio]

I don't know why it says still performing miracles either I'm not sure if that's what is written

[sour coral]

if rowling said so then it must be true

[solid folio]

Lol

Man she should've just left this topic alone

[sour coral]

a good auther covers all baises

[solid folio]

Probably her trying to be inclusive but this is a gross misjudgement

She could've just said some wizards/witches practice Islam and left it there

[sour coral]

shes controversial for a reason lol

omg you're name isnt gunther

i am so sorry

[solid folio]

It's ok

[sour coral]

may i call you gunther

[solid folio]

That's fine

[sour coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[solid folio]

Also there's wizards that wear turbans so I guess they practice Sikhism too

Besides quirell obviously

[sour coral]

quirell?

are you sure?

[solid folio]

His reason for a turban was to cover up Voldemort

[sour coral]

ah right

i havent got that far lol

[solid folio]

In the first book?

[sour coral]

ohhh

im thinking of iamlordvoldemort

[solid folio]

Yeah that one

[sour coral]

tom marvelos

[dull mason]

tom marvolo riddle?

[solid folio]

He wears a turban all year and nobody thinks anything of it so it must be quite common

[sour coral]

some people wear it for the fun of it

or so ive heard

[solid folio]

Tbh as a kid I thought it made him mysterious

[sour coral]

well if it made him mysterious then it sure worked!

wow...

[magic isle]

@solid folio here's the rest if you wanted to read

[solid folio]

Fair enough. That's even worse than I thought lol

[sour coral]

jk rowling the dirty dastard

[solid folio]

I don't even know where the pure blood came from

[dull mason]

you guys know way more about this franchise than i do lol

[magic isle]

who knows

i guess she just wanted to give backstory?

maybe it was her reason for the lack of inclusivity in hogwarts

[solid folio]

Tbf the characters she wrote were pretty representative at the time of writing

[sour coral]

such as

[solid folio]

The Parvati twins, Dean Thomas

[magic isle]

none of which practice islam to my knowledge

[solid folio]

Seamus as well from Ireland

Not Islam I agree but it's pretty representative of British society

[dull mason]

is he the one who gets the spell wrong and blows up?

[solid folio]

Yeah lol

[dull mason]

he was funny

[sour coral]

ireland mentioned 🇨🇮🇨🇮🇨🇮

[magic isle]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-got-you-now-havent-we-citizens-arrest-fergus-beeley-gif-9302768

[solid folio]

I think the books would've been fine as they are if she hadn't tried to retcon anything and just left the fans to interpret any other details

[sour coral]

yea

[sour coral]

does anyone know if islam is included in the harry potter universe?

wait, ive been in this chat before

somethings off

[dull mason]

you smell it too?

[sour coral]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-faint-man-fainting-oh-stare-gif-16424817

[magic isle]

https://tenor.com/view/by-the-nine-im-tweakin-elder-scrolls-skyrim-gif-25519944

[dull mason]

ok guys cool it

[magic isle]

https://tenor.com/view/mods-are-asleep-mods-sleeping-post-chicken-mods-sleep-gif-21077535

[dull mason]

i don't think it's wise to joke about that. some of them are clearly not and are infact playing videgames

[magic isle]

sorry

[worthy trench]

JK already said all religions except Wicca are represented at Hogwarts.

[sour coral]

i have no idea where this is stated but im tired

[dull mason]

did you sleep last night?

it's very huddlepuff to stay up all night

[worthy trench]

If you refer to my comment, its an interview she did.

[dull mason]

i thought she didn't really do interviews any more

[worthy trench]

this wasn't recent

[dull mason]

oh right. sorry i'm a little on the stupid side.

[sour coral]

yeah newsflash lol

[worthy trench]

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/jk-rowling-the-only-religion-belief-system-not-represented-at-hogwarts-is-wicca-9930337.html

[sour coral]

that thing is MASSIVE

does he fly

wait sorry ididnt see the wings

[magic isle]

yeah, i mean islam features but as she stated, it's only practiced a little in the far east

[worthy trench]

Basically all religions but Wiccan are represented at Hogwarts

and wizards are as religiously varied as Muggles

[dull mason]

isn't that contradictory to what she wrote before? sorry i don't know much about harry potter this is all quite confusing for me

[worthy trench]

well except wicca

[sour coral]

rowing believes in the oars and the capsizes, i dont know about the griffindoors

[worthy trench]

wicca isn't represented at hogwarts at any rate

Basically wizards can be as varied as muggles on matters of religion or atheism

[magic isle]

strange

[worthy trench]

or whether an afterlife is real or not

why is it strange

[dull mason]

you'd think wizards would have their own religion

[worthy trench]

why

religion by definition is ritual practices based around worship of something/someone

[magic isle]

salazar pretty much confirmed that there was no afterlife

[worthy trench]

the fck?

[magic isle]

yeah

[worthy trench]

what are you on bout?

and counter point - resurrection stone

literally calls back souls of the dead

so there's an afterlife for certain

what form that takes - who knows

[dull mason]

well if it's just a ritual practice of faith then the tribal wizards likely had their own rituals to explain their side of things

[worthy trench]

the souls in question summoned back didn't talk about it

[dull mason]

i'd find it unlikely that there isn't a wizard exclusive religion

[worthy trench]

well at some point they surely had them but they have to actually worship something or someone.

[dapper lark]

Dumbledore called it the next great adventure

[worthy trench]

Like if a wizard worships magic, then i guess thats a religion to them though not an officially recognized one

[magic isle]

in one of the addendums written by jk, she said that when salazar peered into the veil, he saw only darkness. souls exist, however exist in an eternal limbo absent of any afterlife. they can be recalled, however feel as if no time has passed as they are unaware of their existence until they are recalled

[worthy trench]

source?

also salazar is defo wrong if so

cos we know there is one based on the ressurection stone

[dapper lark]

I wouldn’t take advice from Salazar

[worthy trench]

And LV is confirmed stuck between life and the afterlife in Limbo by JK

[magic isle]

hence why when the resurrection stone was used the brothers wife got sad as she knew she was not for this world, and time was meaningless to her

[dull mason]

doesn't harry go to the white land and meet dumbledore?

it's like a bus stop

[worthy trench]

the story is also written by a man who wasn;'t there at the time

who lived centuries after the events its based on

[magic isle]

cap

[worthy trench]

even if peverell's wife didn't wanna be in the living world, doesn't mean another soul wouldn't want too

[worthy trench]

Limbo - where LV is stuck forever after he died

[sour coral]

i dont believe you dandy

[worthy trench]

You can literally read JK's answer on it

[dull mason]

why is dumbledore there i thought he was a good guy?

[sour coral]

say what?

[magic isle]

i quote sirius "i cannot linger here. life does not continue after death as you see it. you shat blood, i eternally shat blood"

[dull mason]

does he really say that?

[magic isle]

yes, book 7 i believe

[dapper lark]

It doesn’t sound like something in that book

[sour coral]

?

[magic isle]

i'm sure i've read it many more times than you have

[sour coral]

yes yes, the shatting part stuck with me

[dull mason]

i must have skim read that bit then

[dapper lark]

Nah, I think you guys are trolling.

[sour coral]

teehee

[worthy trench]

yah they are

[magic isle]

you can think that, doesn't change what jk wrote

[dull mason]

i don't have a very good memory of the books

[sour coral]

my blood is troll but my heart is hufflepuff

👖

[white prism]

Um so basically snakes and Islam don't get along well, snakes being a symbol of evil so it would be shocking for JK put that religious figure in that house

Was he a child attending Hogwarts? Or already like 300 years old?

Soooo out of left field

Although it's a little sus you won't post a link

Screenshots won't do, how do I know that you didn't open up the source editor for shenanigans?

[dull mason]

i think i'll be leaving the lore handling to the experts i have no idea what is going on lol

[worthy trench]

I mean one can just google JK Rowling Harry Potter religion Wicca and get the links

[white prism]

@worthy trench I mean that I tried to google what this dude posted and came up empty handed...

Where's the address bar? This is suuuuper sus.

[worthy trench]

What did they post about?

[white prism]

It's in the post I replied to

[worthy trench]

I honestly don't recall what the topic was about. Was it religion in the WW or the Muhammad/Islam thing?

Nor do i recall exactly what post you refer to when you replied to it.

[solid folio]

Here

It might be she retracted it due to controversy idk

Especially given pottermore as a website doesn't exiy

Or its a deep fake from 4chan

Reverse image search hasn't returned anything

[mossy coyote]

cackling

No way that can’t be real

It’s like the whole “hog warts students used to vanish their bowels when they had to go to the bathroom”

[sour coral]

i dont think we've found anything to DISprove it though

[modern moth]

a bit ironic considering islam condemns magic

odd

[worthy trench]

Its fake no doubt. It says he's 1700 years old. So that tells me its fake. Also I don't think for a second JK would touch Islam in her lore in any way.

[modern moth]

i wouldnt put anything past her

she’s controversial enough as it is

[warped thistle]

I get how you can doubt the screenshot is authentic. But how can you be 100% sure it's a forgery just from a character supposedly being 1700 years old in a fictional universe with magic. How does one thing follow from the other

[flat zealot]

The main proof would be the absence of any link but sharing screenshots. Screenshots contain no useful metadata…

The add to that the fact that searching for any sentence in google gives you no result…

Even an outdated link should show up in the wayback machine

[warped thistle]

Absence of a link is proof the screenshot is a forgery?
It may be reason to doubt it is authentic, but saying it means that it is definitely fake is stretching it

[flat zealot]

On top of this, nothing matches:

1. this would mean founding hogwarts earlier than lore says, as the foundations of Islam are more ancient than hogwarts.
2. Muhammad would have joined hogwarts at 1000 years old roughly.
3. Nicolas flamel wouldn’t be well known.

So sure, none of those are proofs, just things that make you extremely wary.

As this is the internet, anything that sketchy should make you pause, and not propagate the info further

[warped thistle]

I'm curious so Imma just ask. @magic isle can you englighten us as to where you got that screenshot from (did you make it yourself when the website was still up, or did you get it form someone else)?

[warped thistle]

I agree about "pausing" and "not propagating" something that you're not sure is accurate, but that isn't the same as claiming you have no doubt it's fake.

[solid folio]

There is no archives, articles etc talking about it

It was either removed silently and any objection was withdrawn before it made the news or it was never up to begin with

[white prism]

Here's what I mean about source editing:

Here is my fake article:

Here is the ORIGINAL, REAL article:

Here is how I was messing around in the source editor of the page:

I changed the text and changed the background

All I had to do was right click the background and inspect (Q), or i could do "Ctrl+shift+i"

[solid folio]

Original here too

[white prism]

Plus the math in the alleged article is all wrong, The Salem Witch Trials occurred in 1692, and the prophet Muhammad was born around 570 CE, and Hogwarts was probably founded in around 900-1000 CE

This is so silly though, that dude's screenshots are blatant misinformation at best and I'm not going to talk about it anymore

[worthy trench]

The age itself is far beyond anything else seen in canon lore for one and JK has been careful not touch religion in her books and lore so that's also why.

[worthy trench]

Also the fact it says he went to Hogwarts, he wouldn't have gone there as an adult and he's not from England, Wales, Scotland or Ireland.

As someone brought up, someone no doubt edited the site using source editor

[white prism]

That was me, I'm that someone that brought up source editing

[warped thistle]

The dates not matching is better evidence in favour of doubting the screenshot.
The fact about him being from another country is irrelevant unless you want to claim you can't think of anyone attending hogwarts who wasn't from the British Isles.

[warped thistle]

Your confidence level isn't proportional. The fact that it is possible to source edit (and for some people trivialy easy) can be evidence in favour of doubting the legitimacy of the screenshot.
It connot however be used to remove all doubt from the claim that the screenshot is a forgery.

[solid folio]

It's reasonable doubt basically

[sinful stratus]

are there any spells that work on ghosts?

including ones not in game

i know ghosts are not completely invincible since nick was petrified by the basilisk but i am curious if there are any spells a wizard (dark or otherwise) could use against one?

[worthy trench]

What I mentioned was enough for me to doubt it utterly. 1700 years old? Not likely. Slytherin, definitely not. Do I think JK would touch on the Islam religion's history in her lore. Absolutely not. She's knows how some in the Islamic will react to that. That's all enough for me. Then I see people mentioning incorrect dates for stuff. That just further solidifies my stance.

[dapper lark]

Well after Myrtle died she haunted Oliver Hornby until the Ministry stepped in and then she went back to Hogwarts. So they must have some way of controlling the ghosts.

[worthy trench]

If someone really wants to nip the matter in the bud, just tweet JK on it.

[dapper lark]

And I know poltergeists aren’t ghosts, but Waddiwasi was used to shoot chewing gum up peeves’s nose.

[worthy trench]

Poltergeists are not ghosts as you say. They can take on corporeality to some degree at will it seems given they can interact with physical objects etc