‼-story-spoilers-‼

[hot anvil]

But yeah I get what you mean lol

Should I free penny?

What can she even do with her life if I set her free

Also can I set her free later if I decide not to immediately

Nah I'm freeing her

[sour pendant]

OF COURSE YOU SHOULD FREE PENNY, WTF KINDA QUESTION IS THATTT

[hot anvil]

I was worried I'd never see her again and didn't want that 😅
And she seemed quite happy to be not free as it were

Also, I was under the impression that we'd be able to sell stuff from animals and whatnot at the shop, or is there just no way to do that

[sour pendant]

Nope. :( Only gear.

[hot anvil]

Oh well..
On a somewhat related topic, is there a specific place to get the best gear? And when do I know when I've found the "best" set I'll find?
I don't want to invest a ton into gear that I could have replaced for something better

[sour pendant]

The best gear is level ~105-107 or so.

[hot anvil]

Ah oki

[sour pendant]

"Alfred Lawley's none too pleased. Seems he's been burgled. I shall pretend I never heard the rumors of your involvement." BUT I NEVER SET FOOT IN HIS CELLAR.

[low mauve]

SAME

[sour pendant]

😭 THESE ACCUSATIONS AREN'T FAIR.

[low mauve]

I swear if Barnes has been running his mouth--

[flint basin]

might as well go and raid his cellar, at least it's easier now (and you can burn the place if you want)

[sour pendant]

Truuu. I might as well commit the crime I'm being condemned for.

[hot anvil]

I just witnessed a frog thing solo an infamous foe troll and I don't understand how

[sour pendant]

A frog thing...

[hot anvil]

Tried seeing if the troll would accidentally kill the frog since it was getting in the way of our fight, so I faked the troll into ramming where the frog was
And the troll just clipped to the side, T-posed for half a second, and fell over dead

[hot anvil]

the big ones

Bugdog

[sour pendant]

Dugbog, lol.

[hot anvil]

Oh

[sour pendant]

Bugdog, lmao

[hot anvil]

I'd keep one as a dog

[sour pendant]

Such an ugly dog, tho.

[hot anvil]

Ok but like what if it was sweet and domesticated like a normal dog

[sour pendant]

Still ugly as sin.

[hot anvil]

imo sweetness > uglyness if it's sweet enough

[exotic needle]

I’m so freaking anoyed, ive been trying to get through the niamh fitsgerald trial for the past 30 minutes, but i keep getting seened because i’m not invisable anymore

[sour pendant]

Not invisible anymore? Do you have the wand?

[humble token]

Second part of the trial you just fight them head on instead of continuing to sneak

[exotic needle]

Still struggeling on the first part, but not invis anymore weirdly

[sour pendant]

Don’t know how it’s possible for you to not be invisible if you don’t have the wand yet.

[humble token]

I thought it automatically cast since you should have ||the cloak of invisibility|| for the first section

[sour pendant]

You don’t have the cloak to begin with, just the Disillusionment Charm.

[humble token]

Second section you get ||Elder wand|| and don't need to remain hidden

[humble token]

Technically, but I believe there's a pattern of ||the Three Hallows being present/alluded to through the trial sections||

[sour pendant]

Yes, you do get the cloak, but at the end of the sneaking section.

[humble token]

Ah ok, it's been a minute since I've done it so idr as well

[ashen forum]

It sucks I never got to manipulate the emotion so I could straight up wipe people from existence

[sour pendant]

What...?

[viscid tusk]

👀

[sudden lake]

ngl, i wish that was an option, or at least a "bad ending" cutscene

[hot anvil]

Post story n stuff, as I finish up quests I keep getting a notification about new quests available but no new quests in my quests thing nor on the map as far as I can tell

What's up with that

[ashen forum]

I would kill everything in sight 😭

lucky I can't just walk around fling curses at the good npcs too lmfao

[sudden lake]

i mean, i DID see a mod for that-

[unique hound]

shh we don't speak of you-know-what here

[ashen forum]

unable to grab said things however

[sudden lake]

true

[fresh timber]

I’m pretty sure Anne was his by a goblin (most likely Ranrok) using Crucio

[ashen forum]

..

it was victor rookwood

and for what curse it was its doubtful that it was crucio due to the fact it renders you in constant unbearable pain and she was walking around with periodically based pain aside from the obvious side effects that caused her constant pain, agony, and illness so im not even sure wtf it was

[fresh timber]

I wonder what it was

[ashen forum]

bro

its literally called Victor Rookwood's curse LMAO

they never even had a name for it 😭

what is this treachery

got me here overthinking and analyzing just to find out oh its called the Victor Rookwood's curse im acting like a insecure gf rn 😭

just some undocumented kind of dark magic i presume

like obviously documented but unstated, if anything i wanted the fiendfyre curse :c

[humble token]

I think it might be related to the dark magic of Isidora's emotional apathy/pain removal that Victor cast in Anne

[unique hound]

ah i wish we knew more about that curse

[humble token]

It'd be cool if HL2 delved more into Anne's curse as a 6th year student

[unique hound]

yeah agreed 😔 it's the one storyline that i still have unanswered questions for

[humble token]

That'd also be a fabulous excuse to continue with Sebastion in the storyline

[unique hound]

can't get enough of him trutru 😌

but also like did the curse break after we killed victor?? or did it stay

[humble token]

Probably not, unless it was somehow linked to Victor like a horcrux

Or some other variation of ancient magic

[ashen forum]

that sounds pretty accurate ngl

[ashen forum]

it states it was never broken by end game im pretty sure

so shes still cursed

yeah it says she was never cured of her curse

[exotic swan]

It makes sense, curses made by dark arts are not curable. Similar with Moody, Harry's scar, or that dark art teacher from HL, that became older due to one incident...

[ashen forum]

thats why I knew when sebastian wanted the MC to cure his sister it just wouldn't work

you're entirely removing emotion like taking their soul it wouldnt heal her

[flint basin]

Not to mention they didn't see any traces of ancient magic on her so that's pretty much ruled out

[ashen forum]

you'd have to be pretty stupid to try it aswell

it's so obvious that the magic isadora was performing was entire based on harnessing

or though she absolutely knew that she just tried to justify it and then literally got clapped in one hit lmao

bakar fr stood on business and said ykw get gone shawty

[unique hound]

i empathize with isidora tbh 😔 wish we had the chance to mend her portrait and talk to her

[lofty grove]

😰

[deep cypress]

Harry’s scar wasn’t a curse, it was a marker keft by a curse.

dark curses can normally only be lifted by the one that cast them or sometimes cured but the darker the curse the harder it is to lift. MC killing Rookwood was kind of the worst possible outcome as now there’s likely no chance for Anne with the original caster dead

[runic tundra]

Yah there's no known person who knows the curse he used thus no way they cure it without getting lucky or finding a written version of it and even it may not have a cure and may be an invention of Rookwood's. The intent of the storyline is that ends in tragedy no matter what happens.

[exotic swan]

agreed… these “curses” can be even failed spell. So it happens unintentionally…

Just… thinking about Ominis… poor boy loosing his aunt he loved and his two best friends. I would wish for him to be able to heal Anne at least, but he can’t 😭 at least he has our MC…

[fresh timber]

Question

Does Professor Onai ever find out her daughter was struck by the Cruciatus curse?

[sour pendant]

Yes. She saw it happen.

[fresh timber]

Ngl, I may have a dirty mind but the Poppy quest where you and her go meet the Centaurs seemed kinda sus when they surround you and poppy when playing as a girl, until the bows come out

[humble token]

Reminds you of the white girl on the couch surrounded by big black guys huh

[unique hound]

[humble token]

That aside i didn't really notice any sus vibes when playing as my female mc

[ionic haven]

Okay I hope the mods don't see this because any kind of NSFW talk is a no no

[humble token]

Ah

[lofty grove]

😨

[fresh timber]

MovieFlame be like: Despite getting the Ravenclaw crest correct as seen in the books, the Hogwarts Legacy quest known as Minding Your Own Business (F*** that quest btw), gets Stupify wrong by depicting it launching Officer Singer into a wall like shown in the movies

[fresh timber]

A whole 100 points for saving Hogwarts is wild

[quasi tinsel]

I love it how professor fig really said “we’re in the thick of it now” at the last mission 😭 had me cracking up

[unique hound]

into the thick of it!

[humble token]

oH

[willow cipher]

from the screen

[quasi tinsel]

To the ring

[idle stone]

to the pen

[south summit]

What happens if you ||turn Sebastian In?||, I'm curious to do it on my next playthrough.

[unique hound]

the great hall scene with him won't happen 😔 and he won't be in the undercroft to teach you any curse you missed

[south summit]

Ah, that's it?

[unique hound]

storywise he'll be expelled and trialed at wizengamot ig

[south summit]

Hm.

[unique hound]

yeah i'd say it won't hurt to turn him in just for one playthrough 😆

[glossy plank]

But instead of Sebastian there will be Ominis

[unique hound]

right! i keep forgetting the ominis convo in the undercroft

[tender venture]

I'm so glad I didn't rat Sebastian out. But he still wasn't at the Slytherin table during the House Cup ceremony?! At least not near Ominis.

Didn't Sebastian say something about Ominis being in love with Anne? Or did I dream this up? I could have sworn he said something.

[glossy plank]

I meant in the great hall (at least when I played)

[unique hound]

😮 i didn't get that impression but it's an interesting idea

[glossy plank]

And you could tell Ominis the Rookwood thing, which he will tell Sebastian while he was in the headmaster’s office being expelled, and when he will get back he will tell you that knowing it only increased Sebastian’s hatred of goblins and poachers

[exotic swan]

I thought more that Anne has crush on Ominis… judging how she said, she will go with us only if Ominis will go as well…

and Sebastian mentioned she is more like Ominis in her opinions than him, which is interesting since Sebastian is her twin

[sour pendant]

She trusts Ominis to keep her safe in matters involving dark magic. This absolutely does not mean she has a crush on him.

[unique hound]

i didn't take seb's comment as applicable to anything beyond their opinion on the dark arts but again it's still p possible!

[sour pendant]

Exactly. Sebastian only meant that she thinks like Ominis when it comes to this issue.

[unique hound]

yepyep no one better for anne to confide in if not ominis

either way the only person we know anne keeps in touch with is him

[exotic swan]

I’m not saying it’s 100% like that, only that if there was some love interest between these two, I had an impression it was more Anne to Ominis than the other way around 🤷🏻‍♀️

[runic tundra]

Which doesn't make sense since it was a human that cursed Anne.

[sour pendant]

Yeah, it doesn't make sense at all.

[mental pilot]

Hatred of poachers is a good thing. The MC is all about that.

[sour pendant]

Yes, but what about hatred of goblins?

[exotic swan]

It kinda makes sense, he didn't wanted to believe it wasn't them...

Because it means he was wrong in everything... or simply he needed something/someone to blame 🤷🏻‍♀️

And the actual one was dead...

[mental pilot]

You’re right. Only Ranrok hatred is good there.

[runic tundra]

Yah but he doesn't have that reaction in the - don't turn him in route. Ya'd think he would regardless

Unless him being turned in and pissed off at it just made cling to his belief it was goblins even more instead

[humble token]

I thought Sebastian eases off his hatred of goblins when he realized it was Rookwood who cursed Anne

[runic tundra]

Yah in the don't turn him in ending

he doubles down on his hatred in the prison ending

[humble token]

Well damn

[exotic swan]

🤔 I don’t recall exactly, but from what I remember he didn’t say clearly what he thinks of it… I remember him saying something “it always were goblins”.

[sour pendant]

He says something along the lines of "That's impossible. All Anne saw that night were goblins."

[exotic swan]

yeah and then he says something like it always were goblins… jeez I have to run through it again 😅

[sour pendant]

"All this time, I thought goblins were the enemy...but it was never that simple. I suppose I owe you an apology."

[exotic swan]

ha! ok, fine 😅

but honestly, I don’t believe a word he says anymore. he can tell you he agrees with you and then run killing all goblins and poachers behind your back…

[sour pendant]

sticks fingers in ears and walks away

[exotic swan]

like srsly, we saw this boy finding a random new friend, just because his current friend didn’t agree with him… I lost my trust in him 🤷🏻‍♀️😅

[glossy plank]

True

[atomic imp]

This has to do with Lodgok incase anyone hasnt done the mission yet

||Nobody warned me about literal zombies being in the game bro 😭 The inferi? Thats an undead animated body||

[tawdry heart]

||That mission was so good first time around. A personal favorite.||

[sour pendant]

You need to read the booksssss

[atomic imp]

I sometimes skim them, thats a habit I need to break

[sour pendant]

Indeed. :3

[runic tundra]

the trailers did. but ya jumpcares abound in this

[humble token]

I was not prepared either 😭

[atomic imp]

Why is taking down trolls the easiest thing to do 💀

[humble token]

Fr

I love petrifying them

[exotic swan]

The best is using imperio on them during greater fights, so they destroy everyone else 😂

[humble token]

my favorite thing to do once i unlocked Imperio

[exotic swan]

I'm not real fan of curses, but this one is pretty useful at times 😁

[atomic imp]

im a long ways from getting the forbidden curses

[humble token]

not me casting them left and right whenever i see an opportunity XD

[exotic swan]

I loved my glacio - diffindo combo 😁

[atomic imp]

I would instantly use Avada Kedavra 💀

[exotic swan]

Sloppy

[humble token]

i discovered that near end game 😔

[humble token]

Efficient 🤓

[exotic swan]

Poor you 😭

[exotic swan]

Nah, too easy. Lame 🤷🏻‍♀️

[humble token]

now i can utilize it during my Hufflepuff playthrough

[humble token]

Work smarter not harder XD

[atomic imp]

Very Efficient

[exotic swan]

Glacio - diffindo is efficient as well 🤷🏻‍♀️

[humble token]

yeah but it's one extra spell you need to cast. Avada Kedavra is a one cast one blast typa deal

[deep cypress]

Fun fact, in the Harry Potter universe, Zombies and Inferi aren’t the same thing, they’re entirely separate magical creatures, with the forner not being found anywhere in Great Britain

[humble token]

Starting my Hufflepuff playthrough and I already despise Lenora

[lofty grove]

😭

[sour pendant]

Yeah, she's definitely one of my least-favorite Hufflepuffs... I think Charlotte is a bit worse, though.

Just goes to show, you can be in Hufflepuff and be stuck-up.

[tawdry heart]

Poppy best Hufflepuff for sure.

[fallen saddle]

Very much true, yeah.

[flint basin]

There's also that "get me some bubotubers" girl

[sour pendant]

Sacharissa Tugwood. Indeed.

[tawdry heart]

That quest wasn't terrible, but I hated the attitude of Sacharissa.

[humble token]

Sachariss, Lenora, Arthur, qnd prolly a couple more characters I'm forgetting are so irritating

Zenobia

[tawdry heart]

Yeah, but Zenobia is a Ravenclaw I think. But yeah, super annoying irregardless.

[humble token]

Oh i waa just listing off all annoying npcs i remembered

[tawdry heart]

The girl obsessed with Herodiana...... don't remember her name... she annoyed me...

[sour pendant]

Sophronia Franklin. I don't like her either.

[lofty grove]

omg shes awesome!!!

[flint basin]

of them ravenclaws I find duncan is the most annoying

[sour pendant]

Everett is far more annoying. I help Duncan out with his quest just to spite Everett.

[flint basin]

my reasons would be:

1. he just plays victim when I don't give him that leaf
2. he's one of those pureblood fanatics

[tawdry heart]

I hate Everett. He annoys me a lot. I feel for Duncan at least a little bit, but I also think it's better not to give him the leaf.

[sour pendant]

He is not a pureblood fanatic. That's just random NPC dialogue that literally any NPC student can say.

[flint basin]

I've seen him saying those lines, so he might as well be to me

[sour pendant]

I'm just saying it's not fair.

[flint basin]

let's just say we have our own reasons to dislike a character, even if the others say otherwise

[sour pendant]

Whatever.

[lofty grove]

lol

[random relic]

So I may have a controversial enjoyment of an NPC

What do we think of Ferdinand Pratt?

[unique hound]

i had to google 😭

[low mauve]

He's hilariously annoying

[unique hound]

we says put 'im in the hog's head!

[random relic]

From my reading on Reddit, I think I'm the only player who felt too bad putting him anywhere other than the Three Broomsticks-
He's a dang delight, I think he just needs a friend-

[humble token]

I stuck him in Hogs Head Inn without hesitation

[low mauve]

Same lmfao

[unique hound]

he does need friends

and a bit of humbling

[sour pendant]

Kill it with fire.

[random relic]

I see how it is 🥲

[sour pendant]

When you lie to get people in trouble, and offer to be an informant for the Ashwinders, Effie don't play.

[low mauve]

The Ashwinders??? I thought he only passed information to Professor Black about students

[sour pendant]

He said the Ashwinders who stole his portrait were talking about burning him, but that if they had half a brain, they'd realize he's worth more to them intact and at The Three Broomsticks.

[low mauve]

Ahhh right, that.

[tawdry heart]

But you can burn him instead of the ashwinders.

[sour pendant]

Yep. That's what she does.

[tawdry heart]

That's what my Slytherin did. Put him in Hog's head as Ravenclaw.

[sour pendant]

nod Yeah, I usually just put him in the Hog's Head with my other characters. Over my dead body is he going back to The Three Broomsticks.

[tawdry heart]

nod Indeed. Wish we could burn his library frame too, but alas and alack.

[sour pendant]

There are so many candles in Hogwarts. It would be a shame if one of them happened to get a little too close to that portrait....

[tawdry heart]

Such a shame. He'd be sorely missed.... 😉

[random relic]

Did I seriously just draw a whole thing, only for this channel to not allow images-

[humble token]

daaaaaaamn sad day

[sour pendant]

;-;

[low mauve]

You can put it in #1078537894639194194

[random relic]

I don't have permission-
Whuh-ever, I'll just take my title as President of the Ferdinand Appreciation Club-

[sour pendant]

I would be shocked if you weren't the only member of that club.

[low mauve]

Perhaps it's because you're new??? I seem to be able to

[random relic]

And now I'd be embarrassed cause everything in there is just... So much better in comparison-

[low mauve]

Who cares

[humble token]

I'm doing an art piece for a (late secret santa gift in a group where everyone's a super talentsd artist except me (beginner/mediocre artist wheee) so i feel you XD

[humble token]

Making my blind and loyal Hufflepuff guy but later I realize something... i gave him the same face shape and hair as Sebastian lmao

[mental pilot]

It’ll be easier to be loyal if your char is a total fanboy

[humble token]

Fr

Tallamai rly said "i like that face it's mine now"

[hybrid socket]

I'm at the point where sebastian kills his uncle. Sebastian seems to regret it and says he didn't want to hurt his uncle. But he literally casted the killing curse which means he truly meant to kill him. That was no accident, what's he blabbing about 💀

[lofty grove]

i guess it was some heat of the moment thing jaja

[exotic swan]

Exactly...

[exotic swan]

It was not he casted quite powerful crucio on us as well.

[lofty grove]

i guess he really wanted to torture us to get through!!

now thats what i call resolve

[fallen saddle]

No. Not again you guys. You'll be the death of me hahaha

[runic tundra]

Maybe the crucio thing was, he didn't want to hurt MC but he really wanted to get into the scriptorium thus was able to will himself to cast the curse required to get in despite not wanting to cause pain to MC. And he only casts if for like 1 sec or not even. Its like blink and you'll miss it but since its the crucio curse, even 1 sec or less will cause immense pain.

[unique hound]

bro had zero hesitation tho 😆

[fallen saddle]

To be fair, he told us we could use it on him. We're not forced to suffer

[humble token]

I'm more worried about folks who cast Crucio on Sebastian... /j

[fallen saddle]

Never done that myself, but I've heard some did

Same for Ominis, never had to use imperio

[unique hound]

but he asked us to hold it as long as we can 👉🏼👈🏼

[fallen saddle]

PARDON.

We love Ominis here, aren't we @exotic swan

[unique hound]

seb did say ittt or at least something along that line

[fallen saddle]

I don't recall him saying something along those lines

[unique hound]

oh that was for when we cast on him

[fallen saddle]

Ohh maybe cause I haven't done such vile action, I didn't get to hear the line

[unique hound]

i just did it once 😆 for ominis

[fallen saddle]

Once is already too much haha

[humble token]

Don't tell me you turned in Sebastian too

[fallen saddle]

Oh that would be cruel

[unique hound]

oh that i couldn't do 😔

also bcs of ominis & anne

[fallen saddle]

You did good, took the best decision

[humble token]

Good good

[unique hound]

i can't possibly do it after hearing that sad crack in ominis's voice

[flint basin]

Literally nothing good happens if you turn him in anyway

[exotic swan]

The only right thing!

[exotic swan]

How is not turning him good for them? I don't think they would ever be on same terms they used to be before

And murder is a murder

But srsly you haven't mentioned how Sebastian started to behave during his questline? It's not only about what exactly he has done, but how he has done it, which mindset he had, how manipulative he was and that not even Anne actually trusted him in this... He was broken, I would not believe this kind of person to never do anything like that again.

[humble token]

Speaking from a serious standpoint, Ominis likely chose to ignore the immoral choices of Sebastian in favor of continuing to care about his best friend. The two were bosom buddies, two peas in a pod, blood brethren, etc. There should be room for Ominis to care so much about his best friend that he'd be willing to overlook or look past Sebastian's wrongs.
Anne's cumulative reaction to Sebastian's actions is a valid response, and despite the hurt it caused Sebastian, was likely the wisest choice for Anne. She isn't leaving Sebastian by himself. He has Ominis (and MC). Anne accepted her fate, but Sebastian didn't, and in all honesty, both are entirely within their rights. However, the way the writers for HL had this story end was not one that rewarded Sebastian's efforts nor were his efforts entirely forgivable.
Sebastian's choices in his latter quests reflect a reckless determination that bore good intent, but the path to the good Sebastian wanted (curing Anne) was a bad one (Dark Arts and murder), ultimately marring his character and actions. He cared deeply about Anne, but his anger towards Solomon consumed him as much as his wanting to find a cure for Anne and contributed to what he did later in his questline.
Solomon was an arsehole the entire time.

[exotic swan]

Solomon was right. He was a former auror. I would just repeat myself. Sebastian didn't care that much about Anne, when he went even against her will. He didn't listen nor to her.
I know that Ominis was trying to forgive Sebastian and not loosing his friend and that is exactly why I want to turn him in. Because Ominis is burying himself by still holding onto Sebastian. What actually Sebastian did for him and their friendship? He was constantly leaving him behind only because he disagreed with him, telling his secrets to completely random friend and using his family ties to get out with a crime, despite knowing Ominis does not love his family much...

I liked Sebastian at first, but he really turned out to be bad person. People are justifying him, but he was broken. There are things that cannot be forgiven. He even persuaded us to use dark arts as well, because why not? Slazar said it was normal before...

He Is Broken!

I think Ominis really wanted to support his friend, he was prepared to overlook his wrongdoings, but Sebastian simply went too far. So at this point he stopped supporting him, even when it hurts him.

[sour pendant]

Sebastian. 🥰

[exotic swan]

Srsly, that guy killed the person, who was taking care about Anne, broke his best friend's trust, Anne's trust and destroyed their relationships....

You do get, there are times, when there's no return. No apology is enough...

[humble token]

Look i get having differing views and you're entirely entitled to yours, but have some respect for what others think too. This is a game that ultimately doesn't effect us too much in real life so I'm not sweating about Sebastian's grey morals too much.

[exotic swan]

It is important for me exactly for the reason about how people understand morality system. We are being brainwashed by many media about "villains with good intentions". But in reality, people often would hurt you simply because they have the power to do so. Murder is still murder no matter the intentions. Someone who is convincing you to do something forbidden is bad person and not your real friend...

This example with Sebastian and Isidora is showing us, that there is always a line for wrongdoings being forgivable

And once this line is crossed, there is no turning back and no apology would ever be enough...

I'm actually making me feeling bit uneasy, that people are not understanding that. I get there are multiple cultures with multiple moral systems, but still in modern civilizations this should be considered wrong and behind the line. If not, then I would not like to live in country with this kind of morality...

For me every story should has some meaning and message. And this one is imo really important to understand...

[sour pendant]

I forgive Sebastian. 😌

[exotic swan]

… ok, I guess we girls overall has some kind of broken love for broken characters 🤦‍♀️

there is no sense of morality or self preservation in girls love 🤪😅

[fallen saddle]

Tom Riddle is bae.

[exotic swan]

ok then overall there is unlimited love for broken characters for some reason…

[sour pendant]

Solomon was trying to kill Sebastian and MC, and he was as good as murdering Anne too in Sebastian's POV. So killing him was justifiable.

[exotic swan]

no is not, it shouldn’t went too far in the first place. It’s like telling former soldiers to not interfere with kid trying to blow himself up…

[sour pendant]

More like telling former soldiers to not interfere with a kid trying to blow himself up...and to blow him up themselves instead.

[exotic swan]

I don’t think he would kill them anyway, it’s only effect for a game…

[sour pendant]

He uses FIENDFYRE. Good luck surviving that.

[exotic swan]

In a game where you casually using avada kedavra on multiple targets. they just wanted a boss

[humble token]

if you're so perturbed by the game's morality why do you even play it? genuine question.

[sour pendant]

And he targets Sebastian and MC even when there are inferi present.

[exotic swan]

game morality is right, people’s morality is not 🤷🏻‍♀️

[humble token]

I would argue that Sebastian killing Solomon was out of both self defence and previous conflict with his uncle

[sour pendant]

Agreed, but I don't think he went into the fight planning to kill him.

[humble token]

Sebastian didn't just walk up to Solomon and kill him on the spot. Solomon was attacking him so Sebastian defended himself out of necessity in this situation.

[sour pendant]

It was a heat of the moment thing.

[humble token]

no definitely not

[humble token]

I was about to say, yeah

[exotic swan]

it gave you option to play evil, but it’s like saying playing evil durge in bg3 and say it is justifiable. It’s ok to play evil road but understand that this road is evil…

[humble token]

I'm not condoning murder in real life. Sebastian's actions are defensible within the game's story and context. You're free to have your opinion but people aren't gonna have the same one as yours so please respect that.

[exotic swan]

and btw, you probably played different game, because it was Sebastian who attacked first.

using dark arts and attacking former auror…

Solomon was overlooking his actions quite a lot as well, just didn’t wanted him to get away with that unpunished. But the punishment he gave him was still nothing compared to what he should have for casting cruciatus and imperio already.

[sour pendant]

He threw a basic cast!

[flint basin]

only because solomon took the relic from him and destroyed it without even convincing him to stop first

[sour pendant]

Exactly. There was no reasoning. Just YOINK - vanish. Same as he did with the shrivelfig. He never even gives Sebastian a chance.

[exotic swan]

you really have broken morality guys. Why would he reason with someone who already used dark arts and dark art relic? he did the right thing

[exotic swan]

basic cast is still attack

[sour pendant]

Because it's his nephew and he cares about him?! Or at least he's supposed to!

[humble token]

Solomon isn't innocent at all either. Solomon refused to help Anne, he refused to help Sebastian in the way a guardian should. If anything, Solomon's cold heartedness and anger spurred Sebastian further in his search of the Dark Arts.

[exotic swan]

he did care about him, he warned him long before that

[sour pendant]

One basic cast is the equivalent of a slap. It does not justify Solomon attacking him with Glacius, Confringo, etc.

[exotic swan]

but Sebastian continued this path

[flint basin]

just because it's the right thing does not necessarily mean it's a good thing

[humble token]

warned him in the wrong way

also calling us morally inferior/broken is wild

it's fine for you to believe what you do but you need to stop stomping over everyone else

[exotic swan]

srsly, I just talked to person who finished the game yesterday and doesn’t understand any reason to justify Sebastian’s actions either

[humble token]

that's fine, some people are gonna agree with you and some aren't.

[exotic swan]

I might sound more harsh than i intend to, because english is not my first language, I’m sorry I probably just don’t know how to say it differently and properly…

[sour pendant]

He could've at least thanked him for saving Anne's life, even if he went on to say that he vehemently disagreed with how Sebastian did it.

[exotic swan]

because he used imperio instinctively.

he could use any other spell

[runic tundra]

Both were in the wrong and I think we have to seperate the gameplay from the cutscenes.

[exotic swan]

glacio, even stupid levioso

[sour pendant]

I mean, Sebastian saved her and all Solomon could see was the dark magic. He didn't seem to care that Anne almost died. So you can see Sebastian's frustration and hatred.

[humble token]

Solomon frustrated the heck out of me because he was doing everything the wrong way, even if he meant it well.

[sour pendant]

Because he doesn't view the Imperius Curse as morally wrong, since it's capable of saving lives.

[exotic swan]

and that’s completely wrong!

[runic tundra]

Like Seb's storyline is meant to be tragic and we dunno how either choice at the end will turn out yet if they decide to do anything with them

[sour pendant]

He saved Anne's life with it. So...not completely wrong.

[exotic swan]

if he wouldn’t know the spell, he would save her anyway!!!

[runic tundra]

Like controlling minds is wrong, but saving lives is not. The intent matter more here i think but Solomon only saw the dark magic use and not the intent behind it.

[exotic swan]

he could use basic levioso!

[runic tundra]

And he lumped MC in with Seb whether MC uses DM or not and he has no proof either way on that front. That was wrong of Solomon

[sour pendant]

To him, using Levioso and using Imperio are basically two ways to accomplish the same thing and neither is more moral than the other.

[sour pendant]

Exactly. He'll lump MC in with Sebastian even if MC doesn't know a single Unforgivable Curse.

[exotic swan]

and that is what is so wrong about him!

that is why Solomon was mad

[sour pendant]

He views magic as a tool. What makes it good or bad is what you do with it.

[exotic swan]

He shouldn’t see it this way

[sour pendant]

That's your opinion.

[exotic swan]

no! that’s how the curses work and were written!

one use = azkaban!

[runic tundra]

Solomon has a knight templar esque view that verges into black and white insanity were he doesn't take intent into account with magic use. At same time, he was right to worry bout the DM use and obsession for moral and legal reasons.

[exotic swan]

end of story! no argument. Any other argument is Sebastian’s manipulation and lack of knowledge… jeeez!!! guyz 🤦‍♀️🤪

[humble token]

welp

[sour pendant]

Your opinion is not the only correct opinion.

[exotic swan]

😭

[flint basin]

now this is just ridiculous

[exotic swan]

it’s not only my opinion it’s how the curses were written

[sour pendant]

Crucio is the only Unforgivable Curse that you can argue does no one any good.

[humble token]

Yes. Imperio and Avada Kedavra can be used in self defence if necessary.

[exotic swan]

no it’s not

[exotic swan]

no! avada is destroying casters soul

[sour pendant]

Crucio can be used in self-defense too, but it's less clean and humane than Imperio or Avada Kedavra.

[runic tundra]

Yah

Its not something i'd wanna use

or resort to

[exotic swan]

and you can cast them properly only if you truly mean them…

[sour pendant]

Right.

[exotic swan]

if you mean to kill or murder

[runic tundra]

and in self-defnse its pretty easy to mean it

[sour pendant]

But casting Crucio doesn't make you a bad person. See Ominis, for example.

[exotic swan]

if you mean to torture

if you mean to control

[sour pendant]

It's all about context.

[humble token]

control someone to prevent them from harming someone you care about
kill someone to keep them from killing someone you care about

[sour pendant]

Or from harming/killing you.

[runic tundra]

Like its the same with sith lightning. dark side power but can be damn useful in a fight or subdueing someone tryna kill you more effectively than a force push cos the enemy is gonna have a harder time getting back up due to the pain of the lightning in addition to if you fling them into a wall with it. the trade off is possibly getting corrupted if you use the dark side too much. HP magic doesn't have this issue unless you use horcruxes i think.

[humble token]

yes

[exotic swan]

dark arts are literally destroying your body and soul

[runic tundra]

Horcruxes do. I don't think they ever say DM use by default will do that to ya.

And the whole killing rips the soul apart thing seems arbitrary and doesn't account for intent or situation.

[sour pendant]

Agreed. JKR doesn't exactly have a gift for subtlety or nuance.

[runic tundra]

I took the whole killing rips soul apart thing as doing it out of evil and/or DM is what does that.

[sour pendant]

Yeah, doing it in cold blood or something.

[runic tundra]

Even AD was of the belief Sev killing him wouldn't damage his soul much due to it being a mercy killing

And the soul can be healed apparently anyway since Horcrux makers can apparently do it even though it may kill them. we can't confirm it though

[steady mist]

What languange do you speak?

[exotic swan]

is that important?

[sour pendant]

I think they're just curious.

[exotic swan]

Czech 🤷🏻‍♀️ it's completely different from English

[unique hound]

welp i just woke up

[mental pilot]

Good morning

[unique hound]

gmorn!

[humble token]

Good morning

[exotic swan]

Well. I kind of...
expected some reaction or.... something 😅🤪

[fallen saddle]

To what ? I'm afraid I've not followed the discussion

[exotic swan]

They asked me about my primary language for some reason and no response for that 😅

[fallen saddle]

Ah I see, they were just curious I think haha

[exotic swan]

I understand that, but still I expected at least something like "cool" or... I don't know anything...😅 at least some emoji or so... now it seems like "we are curious, you told us and now we are speechless" 😅🤣

[fallen saddle]

On it ! Look

[fallen saddle]

That's cool ! Mine is french, not that different from english though haha

[exotic swan]

That's cool! French is difficult though 🤔

English is easier for learning

Czech is probably even harder 😅

[fallen saddle]

I wouldn't dare try to learn, truuuue

[fallen saddle]

It's even difficult for french people to speak correctly haha

[exotic swan]

Same with Czech 😂

[split tinsel]

Baguette

[fallen saddle]

How come you speak so well the baguette language and I don't ?

[split tinsel]

Im lingual :3

[fallen saddle]

Oh that's whyyy

[atomic imp]

Im about to meet an Acromantula if I spelled that correctly

I did revelio, and I saw the dang thing crawl above me, I was like "Oh my...GOD"

[unique hound]

i do not like them one bit!! 😆 which makes defeating them so satisfying

[atomic imp]

I kid you not, I thought I killed all the spiders onmy way to find Tobbs and the giant thornback one, KICKED me off the cliff and I died 😭

it fell with me too

[unique hound]

😭 hope you saved somewhere close

[atomic imp]

i did

I saved right before I met the acromantula

and GODDANG he owned me

Idk who told Deek that I was strong enough for that spider, but I know it wasnt me because he took me out in like 3 hits even with me casting crucio

[atomic imp]

update: i killed the acromantula and i crashed

[fallen saddle]

Alhamdulillah I finished HW MQ

The fight with Ranrok was really anti-climatic

Yes it was supposed to be hard and it was hard

But him being a dragon and me having to use spells to break bubbles of power was not good enough

I am not disappointed, I enjoyed it nonetheless

[mental pilot]

“Let goblins have wands, let goblins have rights! Nah, I wanna be a dragon! Bubbles are much better than rights or wands.”

[sour pendant]

I have an Unpoppable Bubble in my vivarium! o: puts Ranrok in nabsack

[fallen saddle]

Exactly

I think I deserve some sort of explanation for that ending

[sour pendant]

What’s to explain?

[fallen saddle]

Like why did they choose that dragon ending instead of a duel with the goblin

[sour pendant]

I guess because they thought it would look cooler.

[fallen saddle]

It was lame

[sour pendant]

Why?

[fallen saddle]

Because, he just thrashed around. Then levitated and I had to wait for the bubbles which went down in one hit and I had to hit him continuously while moving around to lower his health

[sour pendant]

But dragon, tho

[fallen saddle]

Yeah but he's entire legacy was about goblins having power

[sour pendant]

And this doesn’t negate that.

[fallen saddle]

Ngl...that dragon was beautiful

[fallen saddle]

Yeah but I really want a duel with Ranrok in goblin form. See all his magic

I rarely if ever complain about game endings

[sour pendant]

Fair. Maybe they thought one goblin in that huge space would be too small a target?

[fallen saddle]

Don't get me wrong, wizard, I loved the game, it is 10/10 from me.

[sour pendant]

Witch. 😌

[fallen saddle]

Sounds fair as well. But I mean, like, maybe him wielding wand and using different spells that also bring down the whole place

[fallen saddle]

Apologies, Madam Witch

[runic tundra]

It makes sesne for Ranrock to take the dragon form, he enables him to fly and it makes near immune to all magic or spells except magical plants and AM spells.

[fallen saddle]

True that

Hmm. Ok, I guess I ruined it by using cheats to have maximum health

Is there any way to replay quests?

(Afaik I didn't increase attack damage, if anything less than 4 times)

[sour pendant]

Also he likes dragons.

[fallen saddle]

I missed that part. Explains the Poachers Arc which was fantastic. The Sebastian Arc was so painful, I still doubt my choices sometimes

[sour pendant]

You had to talk to Rowland Oakes.

[fallen saddle]

I am awfully embarrased. Who was that/

[sour pendant]

Adelaide’s uncle, metal trader who you rescued from a cell in Korrow Ruins.

[fallen saddle]

Sounds familiar tbh. I am not great with NPC names ngl

[sour pendant]

Ah.

[fallen saddle]

(tbh so much trauma happened during my playthrough....irl....I feel like I need to replay the whole game)

I appreciate the gesture, Pail. But please don't hug me, it is kinda awkward

Like I don't get hugs from girls.....I just well, I hug guys only

ANYWAYS

Back to the dragon form.... It was powerful and really tough to beat, I won't deny that. But my own fantasy is to fight Ranrok wand-to-wand, him using Ancient Magic that way

[lofty grove]

can goblins even use wands

he used some sort of red armor to fight

[sour pendant]

Yes, they can use wands.

If they couldn't, they wouldn't want the right to use them.

[sour pendant]

The "dark" ancient magic.

[lofty grove]

oh ok right

[quiet moon]

I don’t know how many are new and as far in as I am but I’m kinda stuck on the Hazel The Unicorn Quest more just I missed her the first time she showed up in the unicorn den so have I missed my opportunity to rescue her?

[humble token]

You can follow her. It's easier to do so using the disillusionment charm. I couldn't bother to spend too much time chasing after Hazel so i set difficulty to Story mode

[sour pendant]

Same. Can't be arsed to put in effort to catch the animals, so I switch to Story.

[quiet moon]

Oh I have other animals that I got and I’ve caught other unicorns it’s just I can’t seem to be in the Unicorn den when she is past that one time I was

[austere bronze]

I put levioso, the bag and the desillusionment in the same wheel. Once Hazel is in levioso, it's easier to catch her

[humble token]

Having the sprint while disillusioned Talent point activated also helps

[steep tartan]

Yeah, i wish it could have started like that then he goes 2nd phase dragon mode, would have broken up the fight well enough so it didnt feel like it dragged on, mind the pun.

[fallen saddle]

Agreed

It was quite a drag on

[dawn bough]

I had to beat it on 2 wiggenwelds 😭

Took like 12 tries

[fallen saddle]

Wazzat

[glossy plank]

I on 5

I did the last fase like 6 times before beating him

[rotund folio]

I gaslit Sebastian so badly on my first run through. I agreed with everything he did and said to him and did the opposite with Anne, his uncle, and Ominus. I'm doing the same again but this time I won't send him to Azkaban.

[humble token]

I'm siding with Ominis currently with my Hufflepuff fella, idk what I'll do in my Slytherin playthrough yet

[fallen saddle]

Spoken like a true Gryffindor

[fallen saddle]

I saw it through to the end, now I know all three curses and Sebastian is fine

[exotic swan]

I have been thinking about it.m more... there hasn't been said he will go to Azskaban.
And this time I was thinking about Hagrid. Tom Riddle wrongly turned him in and Hagrid was expelled and "Following his expulsion, the Ministry of Magic forbade Hagrid from practising magic and destroyed his wand"

The problem with Sebastian is he killed with avada kedavra.... But judging his age he really doesn't have to be sent to Azskaban even after turning him in 🤷🏻‍♀️

And forbidding from practising magic and destroying his wand I think is fair judgement

[deep cypress]

His age isn’t taken into account

Unforgivable curses are illegal to use against humans. If you’re caught and convicted that’s a one way ticket to Azkaban.

Sebastain has no one to talk in his defense and no pull with the Wizengamot.

the only reason Hagrid didn’t go to Azkaban as a kid is because he didn’t use the unforgivables, he was accused of owning a dangerous creature that was the accused of killing Myrtle.

The law is the law, we’ve seen many times in the books and films now unfair the Wizarding justice system is. Sebastian has no chance if you turn him in.

[ruby kestrel]

The Minister of Magic in 1891 is Faris Spavin. Same guy who introduced the Decree for underage magic and the Trace. Turn him in and he'll never see daylight again 😂

[unique hound]

lol true 😆 wish the trace was explained a bit more

[runic tundra]

Also the AK curse was also likely the last spell his wand used before it was seized meaning the Ministry will know he used the spell when they check his wand.

[ruby kestrel]

So save the last round of cross wands til after he kills his uncle. Then bring him in the match. 🤷‍♂️

[runic tundra]

LOL

I actually dunno how many spells that can be played back using the Rewind Spell on wands so if that was actually done then it may have actually worked.

There is also the possibility that ministry would use truth serum or legilimency to get the truth out of Seb (though they didn't normally do this cos its not reliable due to the next part of this sentence) and there's no indication he can block or fool those with Occlumency.

[exotic swan]

Anyway, in his case the judgement that was used on Hagrid might be enough. Even though I would agree with Azskaban as well. Just saying for those who don't want to turn him in, that the judgement wasn't set yet and it might be still lighter. We don't know and he deserves a judgement.

[ruby kestrel]

Anne could pull a Mrs. Crouch and drink Polyjuice. Switch places with her twin. She isn't doing much and its mainly her fault anyway 🤷‍♂️

[sour pendant]

🥶

[deep cypress]

But Hagrid wasn’t put on trail for casting an Unforgivable curse. He was a used of negligence with keeping a dangerous creature causing the death of another student. Manslaughter at best, so he was exiled and his wand broken.

Sebastian was reported and turned in by his own twin and his best friend who is also Gaunt, there was evidence and eyewitness accounts as even MC agrees to turn him in.

He’s got no chance

The judgment is set. being accused and found guilty 9f using unforgivable curses is an immediate life sentence in Azkaban, it doesn’t matter if you’re a kid or not.

Sebastian doesn’t have the family,y name or pull to even use the “I was under Imperio” excuse that got a lot of Death Eaters off lightly. His own twin and Ominis turned him in.

[ruby kestrel]

Yeah. His fate would be sealed, if he were turned in. When does MC do that? Before or after killing Rockwood 🤔

[sour pendant]

I believe before.

[ruby kestrel]

What is MC and Sebastian suppose to say? "Jacob you're right. What were thinking? We'll just go back to Hogwarts and forget this happened."
The moment he arrives were both going to the ministry for something 🤷‍♂️

[sour pendant]

Who's Jacob?

[ruby kestrel]

Absolutely nobody. I smoke too much

[deep cypress]

That depends on if you finish the In the Shadow of Fate quest before the main story.
You can do it after but you miss out on a little extra dialogue during the funeral

[ruby kestrel]

Curious?

[runic tundra]

Wait you can finish the main story without making a choice to turn him in or not?

I thought that was locked to main story

[ruby kestrel]

No

[runic tundra]

Or rather can you get to the end year celebration scene without choosing at all?

[ruby kestrel]

I believe to take the OWLs you have to complete the field guild.
Which means all side quests.

[runic tundra]

Ok so the game just defaults to seb in the convo scene later if you don't finish the quest were you actually get to choose.

[fallen saddle]

Dude and gaunt is victim of control his uncle is so good at battle he can easily fend off enemies y he didn't help and y he don't want Annie to get cured

[sour pendant]

Nope.

[runic tundra]

Its not he didn't want Anne cured, its that there was none known and they tried alot already. But yah he should not have destroyed that poultice he made for her.

[humble token]

Solomon was unnecessarily harsh on both Anne and Sebastian. While his intentions were good, he implemented them badly. So so badly. Solomon was quite selfish in keeping Sebastian from Anne, and aggravating him to the point of making terrible choices. Solomon's the adult in this situation, and I believe he's as much to blame for Sebastian's choices as Sebastian himself.

[fallen saddle]

Tru if he would have been reasonable no need to kill him in first place and Sebastian also should calm down and think about it rather than attacking

[ruby kestrel]

The moment Solomon shows up you're both in trouble. And how does Anne show up as soon as you kill him? She came there for her uncle but not her twin brother. 🤷‍♂️
Kill Solomon and blame it on Anne.

[exotic swan]

Solomon said the first time you saw him, that they have been through that many times before. He was tired of Sebastian not knowing when to stop. And after he as a former auror saw him using forbidden spell he threatened him and only forbid him to meet Anne. The punishment could have been and according to law should have been much worse than that. But as said many times before, Sebastian doesn't know when to stop. And he has a friend to cover him up. Remember how the librarian threatened him with reporting to headmaster as well? How you think he got away after that? He said he has his ways with faculty... later explained "Ominis has family ties". Which was nice act of friendship, but actually bad influence on Sebastian, because he thought he can gets away with anything. No threat scared him.

[humble token]

The main issue is that the adults have fashioned themselves as villains in Sebastian's perspective so he'd definitely not listening to them nor is he going to trust them since they haven't proven to him to be trustworthy. All he learned is that any adult who catches him will just give out punishment. That kinda response to a notorious trouble making kid only provides further incentive for Sebastian to not trust adults. He and Anne lost their parents early in their life, and that definitely caused issues in Sebastian's childhood that led to developing a mistrust of adults, no thanks to Solomon mishandling his nephew's outburts and stubbornness with depressing words and threats. Solomon may have been a pragmatic man, but that is not what Sebastian needed as a caring brother.
What Sebastian really needed was an understanding adult who wouldn't threaten punishments, but rather correct him in a way that doesn't teach him that adults are only judgmental, cruel, and unforgiving (pun intended).

[exotic swan]

Sebastian didn't trust anyone, but himself. At the end he didn't care even about Anne's opinion. And he had Ominis to correct him. Didn't listen to anyone. Guilty! He deserves a punishment.

[humble token]

You're right. He didn't trust anyone but himself because adults didn't give him a chance to trust them. All they did was dole out punishments and tsk at his stubbirn ways.
This is a result from childhood trauma that could've been avoided had the adults in his life actually cared about him. Solomon seemed to have viewed Sebastian more as a burden than blood/someone he should take care of regardless of stubborn decisions and differing opinions. Bro went through some life alrering trauma and no one batted an eye.
This is not excusing his behavior, but you should have some crumb of sympathy for him especially because Sebastian was clearly struggling and no one wanted to actually get him the help he needed (therapy... lots of it for my poor boy).
You're condemning a boy for his actions and completely disregarding why he is that way. Your moral view of black and white falls apart because condemning someone for their actions when they display signs of trauma and neglect makes you apathetic and thus a coldhearted jury. You neglecting to blame the true perpetrators of the situation. The heavier blame should be on the system (Solomon + Hogwarts staff) that neglected to properly care for Sebastian.

[exotic swan]

Well, his best friend Ominis was literally tortured by his siblings, forced to torture innocents and to all of that was born blind. People are evading him, because of his family alone and he was sorted to Slytherin even though he didn't wanted. He was running away from his own family to be with Sallows and still despite it all he is not morally wrong. So, sorry. Anne is nice as well, it's only Sebastian.

[humble token]

Not everyone handles trauma the same way. Comparing what Ominis went through to what Sebastian is going through contributes nothing except the fact that the two friends are different people.

[exotic swan]

No exuse for Sebastian... Anne been through all of that as well...

Still wouldn't fall for dark arts.

[humble token]

Anne couldn't do anything because she was literally indisposed by the curse.
Believe what you will.

[exotic swan]

She literally said she can feel it can't be cured and Sebastian himself said she is like Ominis in the matter of dark arts. She went through with it only with condition that Ominis will come as well.

[fallen saddle]

He blamed the goblins but it was actually rookwood who cursed Annie

[fallen saddle]

Tru she said it comes in bounts and sabastian though if he removes emotions from her sister problem solved like how isabel did to her father

[fallen saddle]

Especially conjuring so much infiri using that artifact

[sour pendant]

Sebastian didn't want to remove Anne's emotional pain, he wanted to remove her physical pain.

[fallen saddle]

When he saw isabella memory he told the player to ask the guardians how to remove pain

[sour pendant]

Yes.

[fallen saddle]

She was removing other people emotions

To Power herself

[sour pendant]

Yes, but Sebastian thinks it's the same basic principle for removing physical pain.

[fallen saddle]

Even if this happens still the curse would spread and she will not feel anything thts all'

[fallen saddle]

Like in inuyasha how noroku drinks a medical poison to remove the black hole effect pain temporarily

[sour pendant]

If the curse's ability to inflict pain was taken away, Anne might be able to live with it.

[fallen saddle]

Suffering without emotions is worse than having them

[sour pendant]

Anne's emotions wouldn't be compromised unless MC screwed something up.

[fallen saddle]

But using the artifact to summon huge amount of infri what the heck he was thinking

[sour pendant]

Yeah, I'm...not sure how that was supposed to help Anne, tbh.

Also, he didn't create them, he was just controlling them.

[fallen saddle]

Some one said In spoilers in 2023 it was mentioned the curse can be transferred to infiri

[sour pendant]

Where was that mentioned?

[fallen saddle]

Let me check

[sour pendant]

I will permit this.

[fallen saddle]

But if that was possible solomon would have done that' ages ago

[sour pendant]

No he wouldn't have.

[fallen saddle]

Y

[sour pendant]

Because Solomon thinks dark magic is literally the devil.

[fallen saddle]

Tru is could have side effects

[sour pendant]

waits for you to find where this was mentioned

[fallen saddle]

Come dm

[fallen saddle]

Controlling cruses is very risky

Even omnus was not happy what he was doing

[sour pendant]

It's not hard to make Ominis unhappy.

[humble token]

Ominis is just unhappy by default

[sour pendant]

Ominis Gaunt. Happiness sold separately. 😢

[humble token]

I do what I can to bring Ominis peace im his life but it's not much 😭

[fallen saddle]

It's because of his family 😭 heritage

[runic tundra]

The way he acts and his demeanor makes it looks like he's under the influence of the relic or cos he's mentally losing himself in his obsession but he's not thinking clearly either way.

[sour pendant]

Yeah, you could definitely read it as the relic influencing Sebastian.

[runic tundra]

And even if the curse could be transferred to the Inferi that still doesn't bring up the dark sacrifice needed to use the relic's main effect

[sour pendant]

We never find out what that was supposed to be, yeah.

[fallen saddle]

Like how Dumbledore got cursed using voltermolt Ring

[runic tundra]

Like its surely sacrifice a life but ya

[fallen saddle]

It's dark magic

[fallen saddle]

How the curse necklace hit Katty hard

[sour pendant]

Probably, but the characters never even begin to discuss sacrificing someone.

[runic tundra]

Yah things don't go that far cos Solomon destroys it

[sour pendant]

It's possible.

[fallen saddle]

Not kill but like what happened to Dumbledore and katy Bell

[sour pendant]

Those were curses. They were not the same curse, however.

[fallen saddle]

Tho big effect

[west verge]

If you say no to learning the killing curse the first time and choose to not turn him in how long does it take for him to contact you again to learn it

[low mauve]

You can find him in the Undercroft afterwards

[fallen saddle]

He should have not played with dark magic like controlling infiri, making goblin slit it's neck near her sister

He may think it's justice but deep down it hurts anni that's why she burnt the book of salazar Slytherin

[fallen saddle]

It's ok that's all because recharge takes a lot of time

[low mauve]

??? What are you talking about.

[humble token]

Bro not this again

[fallen saddle]

I mean learning killing curses is ok because recharge takes time

[low mauve]

Literally what does the cooldown have to do with anything

And what does your moralising about Sebastian's actions have to do with me answering their question

[fallen saddle]

Normally saying it's not worth it

[fallen saddle]

Well his actions well r miscalculations when he figured out it was not elf cursed his sister but rookhood

[low mauve]

You still have not answered either of my questions

I don't think you even fully understand this conversation

[north raptor]

You are probably one of the most annoying people in this server, talking with you just makes one never want to talk again. You’re quite literally the worst 😂

[low mauve]

You're more than welcome to block me

[split tinsel]

They know theyre insufferable, they just dont care

[fallen saddle]

My bad got confused was in interview didn't connect the answer properly

[quick slate]

U can still learn avada kedavra if u refused to not to learn it just go to the undercroft

[bold spindle]

I've played the story through a second time today and EVERY SINGLE TIME I cry when professor fig dies.

[low mauve]

Valid

[raven void]

rip mannn

[idle smelt]

lowkey a rant about Sebastian being an idiot during the quest: In The Shadow of The Mine [Major Spoilers if you haven’t done this, or haven’t really progressed into Sebastian’s storyline]

also just wanna preface that i am not complaining because i think the game—this quest—is bad. i enjoy this game very much, it’s just Sebastian and his shortcomings that annoy me, but i do think he’s a very interesting and well written character.

||listening to Sebastian call me 'ignorant' for trusting a goblin who wanted no part in Ranrok’s Rebellion, when this ass determined all Goblin-kind to be alike based upon his sister being cursed by one|| (spoiler: ||it wasn’t a Goblin who cursed Anne, but a wizard; Rookwood iirc||). ||when, by his ignorant logic, if it had been a wizard, or a bloody unicorn that could fart rainbows that had cursed Anne, he would’ve determined all Wizard or rainbow-farting Unicorn kind to be deplorable vermin that should be eradicated off the face of the Earth||. and yet he still had the gall, the dumbfounding audacity, to call the MC ||'ignorant', after he used Imperio to stop a Goblin from killing his sister by making said Goblin slit their own throat|| (||as far as i could tell. it was either slitting their throat, or stabbing themselves in the heart… either way, he forced this Goblin to unsubscribe from their life subscription||) in front of his ||sister—who was absolutely mortified and horrified by the sight; new trauma unlocked courtesy of her tunnel visioned brother—when he could’ve easily just chosen to use Arresto Momentum, or literally any other spell that wasn’t Imperio 😭😭||.

like bro

look in the mirror

you

🫵

you are the problem 😭

'I do know when to stop.'

nuh uh 😭

[ionic haven]

My biggest gripe with this questline was basically being forced to comply with his demands even so you told him no. It may be the best written questline but it suffers very much from it's terrible game design of choices do not matter. Now that mods are legal, I can safely say I used the slap button on him multiple times when I still played lol.

[idle smelt]

i’m on console, so sadly i cannot slap him 😔

it is annoying that, regardless of your choices, he does power on through. but he is a Slytherin; he has a strong sense of fraternity with his twin sister, and possibly an even stronger desire/hunger for power in order to protect/save those he deeply cares about - his sick sister. it also makes sense considering Anne is really the only family he has left that he feels connected with, as his uncle doesn’t make him feel very welcome due to Sebastian’s undying desire to cure Anne.

it also doesn’t seem like Sebastian and Solomon were all that close prior to Anne being cursed.

Given Solomon’s disdain for the twins’ parents being as equally reckless as Sebastian now is.

[exotic swan]

It’s nice to see, there are still some people who understand pretty well, how bad Sebastian has become and for such deserves to be punished 🙌

[humble token]

Where do they say Sebastion deserved punishment lmao 🤡 They ranted about Sebastian's shortcomings--of which he has a handful, he isn't a perfect npc by any means--and pointed out how unhelpful Solomon was to the whole situation. Tryna find where they condemned Sebastian and said sending him to Azkaban was the "right" moral choice 🤣

[exotic swan]

Well, he is terrible and justifies it with good intentions not caring about his sisters opinions anyway... where he does not deserve a punishment?

exactly as said for example he didn’t have to use that imperio… he could use different spell.

[raven void]

since ur in the story spoiler channel, i don't think u had to use spoiler tag, but still kind of u to do it hahaha!! and yeah sebastian was so silly during that quest

[idle smelt]

majority of Hogwarts Legacy fanart is of people shipping him with their MC, and subsequently promoting the message: "he was the best guy around!"

"what about the people he murdered—"

"what murrrdaaaaa?"

[idle smelt]

sorry 😅 just wanted to be cautious

[serene anvil]

He’s a minor so-

well technically he’s a 150 now

[idle smelt]

which makes all that fanart even more unsettling

[idle smelt]

i do agree that he deserves punishment. didn’t explicitly say so in my rant, but i do agree with Sinrai.

i won’t be sending him to Azkaban in case there’s ever a sequel, or DLC sequel, because i wanna know how that’ll play out.

[serene anvil]

people are weird aren’t they

[idle smelt]

will he become a villain? or will he set out on a line of atonement? ¯_(ツ)_/¯ but nothing he could do would ever make what he did magically go away - he deserves to be haunted by his monstrous actions.

[serene anvil]

and yet they get mad when I explode an orphanage 😔

[idle smelt]

wrong message

[serene anvil]

i think if you let him off, he wouldn’t learn from his actions and would continue doing some random garbage, but if you send him to azkaban, he’d not get a life sentence (because he’s a minor) and would come back as an atoned man

[idle smelt]

honestly had hoped that these artists were just children themselves, but i don’t think so.

[serene anvil]

I hope they do that at any rate, it would make sense

[serene anvil]

some probably are, most unfortunately probably aren’t

[idle smelt]

😞

[ionic haven]

I don't like most fanart and left the fanart + fanfic side of the community because it became uhhh... "Too much" for me. Like I enjoy the character for the canon but in fanon? Goodness gracious they turned him into a monster

[exotic swan]

I think they are mostly young fangirls... we call them rabbit fangirls in other fandoms 🤷🏻‍♀️

[mental pilot]

Sure you don’t mean rabid? Jk

[ionic haven]

Young? Most of them are like over 35 years old

Most of those artists are not young but middle aged women

[exotic swan]

Goes both ways 🤣

But yeah, it's really unsettling... the worst thing about it is, that these are the reason why young girls are quickly falling into toxic relationships even in real life... Girls/women love bad guys for some reason...

[exotic swan]

even how many videos are on youtube about “Sebastian flirting with us”… jeez, I’ve played male character and it didn’t sound that “flirty” to me 🤦‍♀️

[ionic haven]

I'd rather not generalise with "Girls/Women love bad guys," because this is not universal

I've always been a woman who dislikes bad boys.

Though Sallow I wouldn't classify as one. Just a desperate kid who do stupid things because his stupid 15 year old brain tunnel visioned him.

Though my outlook on him is more like a mother who wants to slap him and tell him to do better anyway

[exotic swan]

Well, it took him to kill a person... And from the very beginning he was up to "breaking some law" from time to time... that IS a kind of description of a bad guy, if you ask me 😒
From teenage girl point of view he is a bad guy.

[exotic swan]

Aaanyway... if we are talking about girls favorites, who is boys favorite female character? 😁 I would choose Poppy or Imelda...

[lofty grove]

professor garlick is nice

[burnt rover]

Plus the "I know better than everyone else" energy.

[idle smelt]

the canon to fanon pipeline claimed another victim 😭

[idle smelt]

i honestly hope so.

[idle smelt]

Imelda

honestly wish there was more story to her. she was really interesting.

Poppy is, of course, a wonderful person.

[tawdry heart]

Poppy, Natty. If other side characters, I think either Adelaide or Samantha.

[humble token]

Natty kinda annoyed me but she was better company than say, Arthur or Duncan.

[sour pendant]

I wish Arthur could've been Effie's companion, at least some of the time.

[exotic swan]

I kind of like Andrew Larson. There could be more of him. Pity 😔

[raven void]

haha don't apologise (yes i'm three days late to reply to this oops)

[split tinsel]

-# This means she's very upset and angry

[idle smelt]

ooo i hate Sebastian

listening to him rationalise with himself that killing his uncle was the right thing to do, as well as blame Anne for destroying that book, made me wanna rip my hair out.

it was also funny that Solomon was saying "i am trying to help you, boy!" while they’re both actively trying to kill each other. but damn why did i have to be caught in the crossfire 😭 couldn’t Solomon just’ve cast expelliarmus so we could, at least, decide i did not support Sebastian and his actions.

can’t even properly tell Sebastian off at the end; the worst you can say is 'you went too far, Sebastian' in a fairly calm tone.

let me scream at him please i am begging 🙏

i would like to throw hands with this bozo

[humble token]

I wish we hadn't been automatically "assigned" to Sebastion's side coz like... I'm not condining some of what Seb does but I get the flack for it from his uncle just by association 💀 like bro I'm innocent in this I am being divinely perpetrated here

I'd prefer an Ominis questline honestly

[ionic haven]

That was scrapped early on

The references are still in the game's files but no proper questline exists

[humble token]

😭

That's a tragedy

[ionic haven]

A lot of features aren't finished is all I can say

But ehhh we'll just have to see if the IP will be well managed from this point onward

[exotic swan]

Sebastian's questline is there primarily for giving some background for learning unforgivables... So it's kind of understandable you kind of are assigned to Sebastian's side... if you don't want to support his madness, just don't do the questline 🤷🏻‍♀️

Honestly just simply following the questline felt wrong from the beginning...

[raven void]

-# no

[solemn kernel]

Mini spoil!!

I heard from a friend of mine and his little sister that if the character we play as and is in tasks or those missions then you have to AGREE with Sebastian. Even if you don't feel like it, but it makes a big difference to the character you playing. But i ask which houses because i find out the houses of Hogwarts legacy haves different missions. But my friend was not sure which houses it was… and that time I was ask he’s little sister was home, but no she wasn’t home.

(My friend little sister have played every houses on Hogwarts Legacy)

[sour pendant]

||Yeah, it...basically makes no difference what you say, you'll take Sebastian's side.||

[runic tundra]

Yah you don't have to finish the whole thing but it will be left unresolved if you don't

[exotic swan]

Well, it makes sense somehow... because Sebastian put his hopes in ancient magic anyway. It was discussed here, that the fact he kept holding on to the relic was quite... why? It would make sense imo, if he would come back to seeking the relic after the final repository 🤷🏻‍♀️

[runic tundra]

He was obsessed with curing Anne, thought the relic could and it won't surprise me if the relic at least once active, was influencing his mind. He looks and sounds like he's not all there in the crypt when its on.

[mental pilot]

It annoys me that we didn’t get to see If the relic did more than control inferi

[sour pendant]

It'll be left unresolved even if you do.

[runic tundra]

I mean iirc it will be resolved against your will if you don't finish the questline cos it defaults to ||not turning him in|| for the house cup scenes if you don't finish his questline.

it just means you won't see the ||parts of the questline were you chose to turn him or not with ominis and the aftermath of both with him either getting expelled and setting his trial and him learning it was rookwood who cursed Anne regardless||

[runic tundra]

wel as far as we know they only things it can do are control inferi and cure or control the dark magic or curses that afflict a person once a dark sacrifice is made first

[sour pendant]

No one cursed Sebastian.

[exotic swan]

No, he is just idiot who deserves to be sent to Azkaban 🤷🏻‍♀️🫡

[humble token]

he's a child ffs, he did some terrible things but Azkaban is a cruel and unusual punishment for him in his case. He needs therapy/rehab and proper adult guidance ||fek you Solomon||

[runic tundra]

mistype. anne i mean

And alas its the 1800s good luck with proper therapy and adult guidance in that era

though he'd have a better chance with the hogwarts staff

since some of them are better preped for that

like weasley

[humble token]

unfortunately yeah.

[humble token]

dare i say even Sharp

[runic tundra]

he's cool

i didn't have an issue with him

[humble token]

Sharp? Yeah

[runic tundra]

also wizarding world maybe more advanced/progressive in the therapy and adult guidance department due to not holding all the same outdated morals and values and ideas/methods etc

having said that, they still used chaining kids up in dungeons as punishment at hogwarts in that era so

[sour pendant]

Also they whipped them.

[runic tundra]

don't recall that one

but yah its not all up to modern standards

[sour pendant]

Yeah, Molly says Arthur still has the scars.

[runic tundra]

didn't he got to school under dumbledore's reign

cos he ended that practice

[sour pendant]

I don't think so, no.

[runic tundra]

ok then

Alas even wziarding world despite progressive more modern outlooks even back then, still had their outdated views on things

[exotic swan]

Nope... not enough. He is 15, he should have some responsibility at that age

[exotic swan]

Filch said it in the first year to Harry, when they were sent to detention.

They sent them to forbidden forest with Hagrid and took 150 points from griffndor so everyone in school except Slytherins hated them 😅

So yeah, quite strict 😅 still lesser then before... according to Filch students in detention were hanged by their wrists for several days 😅🤣

Making you wonder what detention Sebastian had, that it still didn't make him stop. 🤷🏻‍♀️ or he is just bit of an masochist...

[humble token]

He had too much responsibility at that age. He was trying to find a cure for a dearly beloved sister but his oh-so-helpful uncle kept shutting him down and sapping all hope from both of him and Anne, driving Sebastion to be more reckless, determined, and foolhardy.

[exotic swan]

Everyone around him told him it's incurable. Anne herself said she Feels it's incurable. Even doctors in St. Mungo and his uncle is forme auror... what else you need to damn understand there is no way?!

He just didn't listen to anyone. Not even Anne after all.

Srsly, I'm tired of explaining. You are like Sebastian. Doesn't listen and keep justifying wrongdoings...

[humble token]

Sebastion didn't want to give up on his sister when everyone else had. End of story.

[humble token]

you're one to talk.

[serene anvil]

🍿

[exotic swan]

But didn't listen to her either at the end. Was selfish thinking only about himself.

[humble token]

Finding a cure for Anne was selfish? Glad Anne didn't have a sibling like you.

[exotic swan]

Did it made her happy?

[humble token]

Gonna be $5 per session you'd like to attend 🫴

[serene anvil]

nvm i’m outta here, I’m way too poor for this stuff

[exotic swan]

I'm glad I don't have sibling like you...

[humble token]

lmao you're loss, i've got some great comebacks cooked up

[serene anvil]

Well good luck with that!

[exotic swan]

You just blindly believe everything he said. Not understanding he was emotionally manipulating us to do what he wanted

[humble token]

maybe someday if we ever get into a spat you can experience them firsthand /j

[exotic swan]

Whatever, believe what you want...

[sour pendant]

pays $5 💵

[humble token]

i guess you haven't seen where i've said I don't fully agree with all of his actions. I'm saying the punishment offered for his crimes is overtly cruel and that Azkaban is not the punishment Sebastion needs, ignoring era context

[exotic swan]

You are the happy one here 😅

[humble token]

your contributions are appreciated, honored patron

[serene anvil]

Oh yes I am, watching people argue is so fun

Maybe thats why debates are so popular

[humble token]

"debates" more like arguments XD

[serene anvil]

-# Shouting match

[humble token]

I love me a good debate with rational people

[humble token]

-# why are you whispering

[exotic swan]

And someone said he probably would be in Azkaban for few years and then released. Probably like with Hagrid forbid to use magic ever again.

[serene anvil]

-# Because I usually go quiet when I defecate in my pants

[humble token]

-# oh ok i'll leave it to ya then

[exotic swan]

And I said multiple times, nobody said he will be sent to Azkaban for sure. You just turn him in to face punishment

That's for others to decide

Elders, more experienced

[humble token]

Sebastion doesn't have the strings to pull like Hagrid did to get him out of Azakaban, so he'd likely live out the rest of his life there, insane and tortured like the person we visit in the Hufflepuff quest

[humble token]

More experienced but less empathetic. They'd likely take on a moralistic angle like your fine self and condemn him solely because he broke the law and ignore all else.

[exotic swan]

You should have seen my argue with my friend about some anime stuff 😅🤣 everyone in our discord group enjoy that 🤣

[exotic swan]

He has Ominis

[sour pendant]

Ominis might be able to get him out of detention, but not Azkaban.

[exotic swan]

Idk, professor in HL seemed a lot empathetic

[humble token]

It seems unlikely the resources Ominis has would be willing to vouch for Sebastion since he isn't family

[serene anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/battle-finally-worthy-legendary-gif-21456320

[humble token]

Professors, yes. Ministry of Magic? Hell nah.

[sour pendant]

Plus he may or may not be Canonically half-blood...

[humble token]

I wondered, and I don't remember if they ever say if he is or not

[exotic swan]

They would be likely asked to testify

[sour pendant]

There's some files that say he is, but they also say Anne Thisbe is half-blood, so....take the info with a grain of salt.

[exotic swan]

I heard Anne was first meant to be his love interest 😒 so I would not give much value to it

[humble token]

Now we're talking theoreticals, so it's much less certain of whether Ominis' testimony--even as a Gaunt family member--would have much weight in Ministry decisions.

[sour pendant]

Really glad they didn't go with that angle.

[humble token]

Goodness, glad they scrapped that

they've got enough failed love stories in the quests

[exotic swan]

It would make you understand how insane he really was? 😅🤣

[sour pendant]

It would make his actions less justifiable if it was for a girlfriend than for his only family.

[exotic swan]

That's what I meant... in short way speaking 😅

Well... no

[humble token]

was gonna say lmao

[exotic swan]

But was thinking that 😂

[sour pendant]

It wouldn't make me think he was insane. Just...you wouldn't be able to see where he was coming from as much.

[humble token]

It would make him less relatable or empathetic

[sour pendant]

This.

[exotic swan]

Yep, like the way he is he is more manipulative. Lot of people believed everything, that he really meant good, until the story progressed more and we started to believe more Ominis. Like Ominis didn't do anything wrong. But can't stop thinking Sebastian was both casting him away, but using him when it was needed.

[sour pendant]

I really do feel bad for the way Ominis was treated, no matter how much I like Sebastian.

[exotic swan]

It was horrible. That is one of the reasons I want Sebastian at least be expelled. Leaving Ominis finding new friends and be more opened to others. He deserves better friends.

[sour pendant]

I wouldn't say Sebastian deserves expulsion for how he treated Ominis...

[serene anvil]

But he does for literally murdering his uncle

[exotic swan]

No... not for that only, just that this is another reason for me

[sour pendant]

...in self-defense.

[exotic swan]

He attacked first

[sour pendant]

With a basic cast.

If you slap someone, that doesn't justify them beating you within an inch of your life and SETTING YOU ON FIRE.

[exotic swan]

We've been through this many times... they just needed a boss fight. The fact is he attacked first

[serene anvil]

Well I think rational conversation could have had the same effect though

[sour pendant]

You don't know that.

[exotic swan]

After literal attack?

[serene anvil]

Before literal attack, sadly they didn’t do that did they

[exotic swan]

Sebastian? Rational conversation?
That was a good one 🤣

[humble token]

I don't think either of them were in any mental state to have a rational discussion about events

[exotic swan]

He would not listen anyway

[humble token]

Neither would Solomon

[exotic swan]

Solomon warned him before

Sebastian should stop after that

[serene anvil]

Thats the problem, bad acts are done with good intentions

[exotic swan]

But he didn't, because he new Ominis will cover him up

[humble token]

Because Solomon didn't stop to think that maybe since his warnings and unhelpful hopelessness weren't working he should try a different approach to get Sebastion to listen to him

[exotic swan]

That was a point of the whole story even with Isidora

[humble token]

Isidora was a trained adult

[exotic swan]

Like what?

[serene anvil]

Oh yeah right I forgot the story tbh

[exotic swan]

Still the same story. Justifying her actions with good intentions not knowing the consequences...

[humble token]

Being kind, understanding, gentle, empathetic, comforting
Would you want a friend to tell you to suck it up and move on since any solution is hopeless if someone you loved got hurt??

[sour pendant]

I would've had Effie murder Solomon for trying to murder Sebastian, if the game would've let me.

[exotic swan]

Ominis tried that. He told him they will find another way...

Together

Sebastian didn't listen anyway.

[serene anvil]

hey guys you know whats funny is that Sebastian could have probably walked to school haha thats funny no one lives that close to hogwarts haha sebastian is so lucky hahahahahsshb

[sour pendant]

Yeah, he probably never took the train.

[humble token]

Didn't he live in Feldcroft tho?

[sour pendant]

He did?

[humble token]

That's where Anne and Solomon were right?

[exotic swan]

I do! I have my primary school right in front of my house 🤣😂

[sour pendant]

Yee.

[serene anvil]

No one’s boarding a train to go a bit down the road mate

[humble token]

Sebastion lived in the dorms tho...

[sour pendant]

Right.

[serene anvil]

nicee, my school is like 8 kms away from my house

[exotic swan]

Wonder where Anne went after all that 🤔

[sour pendant]

I can see my old elementary school from my house. (Mom never let me walk home until high school, tho.)

[exotic swan]

Poor you 😅 my secondary school was 1,5 kms away

[exotic swan]

🤔 you have high school sooner than us I guess? How many years you are in elementary schools? We have 9 years elementary and 4 years high school... some can go sooner to high school after 5th year.

So... then it's 8 years high school

[mental pilot]

Yeah. Solomon had to die. He threatened to expel us too. >:[ If only Seb hadn’t used an unforgivable to kill him. 🙃

Should have been more creative

[sour pendant]

Right? Hacking him apart with Diffindo is perfectly legal.

[exotic swan]

Well, you did helped him to get there 🤷🏻‍♀️

I said the only real good way is not to do The questline at all 🤷🏻‍♀️

[mental pilot]

And it’s a forgivable curse

[sour pendant]

It's a forgivable charm. 😌

[exotic swan]

Like Molly with Bellatrix... Glacio and smash!! 😁

Glacio - diffindo is the most satisfying combo 😁

[sour pendant]

Indeed.

[idle smelt]

Fig’s death never fails to hit hard 😖

promised him i would keep the magic contained until we can better understand it, and let our most trusted of friends know more about it to help further research.

to keep it locked away forever is just silly when we know it can do good, but only in the right hands and most well-advised and knowledgeable minds.

i get why the Keepers wanted to keep it locked away forever because of all the mess they went through.

[fallen saddle]

If you mean the spell molly used against Bella trix i don't think it's glacio

[sour pendant]

Why not? Didn't it make her shatter into a million pieces?

[fallen saddle]

Many youtubers say it's a different spell

[sour pendant]

Many YouTubers could be wrong. 🤷‍♀️

[fallen saddle]

And molly does come from very powerful wizards family

She might have hidden few spells as a trump card

And if you guys speaking about solomon and auminus and seb

[sour pendant]

*Ominis

[fallen saddle]

Solomon used to be a auror right

[sour pendant]

Yup.

[fallen saddle]

He can easily fight back

But he didn't

[sour pendant]

Uh...what?

[fallen saddle]

He can easily fight back dark wizards

[sour pendant]

He can fight back dark wizards, but he didn't.....when?

[fallen saddle]

He only fought when they invaded felctcroft

In game

[sour pendant]

....? You mean he didn't fight the goblins except when they invaded Feldcroft? 'Cause that might be true.

[fallen saddle]

Yea

[fallen saddle]

Second seb should have not meddled with dark arts

[sour pendant]

shrug An argument can be made for that.

[exotic swan]

No, no argument here. 15 year old using all 3 unforgivable curses and dark relic? No reason backs him up for that.

[exotic swan]

it literally freezed her 🤷🏻‍♀️ what else would it be?

[sour pendant]

I'll defend him until I die.

[fallen saddle]

Nah he just learnt how to control The relic

Once it got destroyed entire inferi turned against him

So he is not in control

Anyone can use it

They only need the relic

[exotic swan]

he learned, retrieved it and try to use it… still no reason would back him up

[exotic swan]

we know…

[fallen saddle]

His uncle was silent this whole time

[exotic swan]

How?

[fallen saddle]

He didn't take any action on rockwood who cursed Anny

[sour pendant]

Because he didn't know Victor Rookwood cursed Anne.

[fallen saddle]

Still he should have fought them

Aruguing with Sebastien won't solve any issues

[sour pendant]

Especially when all of Solomon's arguments boil down to "You're wrong and I'm right because I say so."

[fallen saddle]

Tru

I wish their was in depth storytelling of their child hood

[sour pendant]

🥺 I wish we got to see a flashback, at least. I wanna see what Anne used to be like.

[fallen saddle]

Like we can alter time line and save Anne before she geeting cursed

[sour pendant]

What?

[fallen saddle]

My bad

Now see

[sour pendant]

It would be nice to go back and change what happened, but that's impossible.

[fallen saddle]

In hp Hermione did it

[sour pendant]

A few hours. Not a few years.

[serene anvil]

She didn’t change the past, she made sure it happened as it meant to

[sour pendant]

Plus if we could go back and change the past, it would be changed, therefore we would not need to go back and change it.

[fallen saddle]

Like correcting the time line

[sour pendant]

Tru.

[serene anvil]

Kinda

[fallen saddle]

In cursed child voltermolt daughter went back in time and changed many things

[sour pendant]

We do not speak of that abomination.

[fallen saddle]

Ok

[serene anvil]

Ah yes, my favourite character in HP, voltermolt

[fallen saddle]

People call him volty

[serene anvil]

Yupyup, vloty is great

[sour pendant]

Vikavoltermolt.

[fallen saddle]

Dude thought he made himself immortal in reality he just expanded his life force

Thts all'

[sour pendant]

Shortened it, really. Most wizards live into their 100s. He only lived to be, like, 70.

[serene anvil]

Voltmeter

[sour pendant]

Voltairemolt.

[fallen saddle]

We need hogs meet many stuffs not just opening crates and doors

[sour pendant]

The village of Hogs Meet.

[serene anvil]

Hog meat 🤣

[empty holly]

I have seen Moldy Voldy which I am a fan of as well

[sour pendant]

Mould on the Vold

[serene anvil]

Mouldy World

[fallen saddle]

Imagine a mod where onces anne sleeps Sebastien teaches us special spell that eases her memory and stress

[empty holly]

thats where Dumbledore gew up wasnt it

[sour pendant]

Mould on the Wold.

[empty holly]

its defo a place in canon if its not that

Oh I thought it was Wold above

[fallen saddle]

@sour pendant @serene anvil

[empty holly]

But good memory on my part, amazed I remembered that

thats mentioned ONCE in the books IIRC

[serene anvil]

Idk for sure but I don’t think mods can change the story that drastically

[empty holly]

this is around HL time isnt it (damn cant send screenshots)

In 1891, one day six-year-old, Ariana Dumbledore was outside in the backyard garden hedge playing with her uncontrolled use of magic. Without her knowing, three Muggle boys had been spying on her. After becoming scared of what they witnessed they confronted her. The boys tried to get Ariana to show them her trick, but when she was unable because of her being so young, they turned violent and started to attack her to stop her from using magic.

[sour pendant]

Eases her memory?

[serene anvil]

we all need a memory massage every once in a while amiright

[sour pendant]

I need a memory lobotomy, really, but...sure, let's go with that.

[sour pendant]

Yes. Hogwarts Legacy is from September 1, 1890 to ~June 1891.

[empty holly]

Thought so

Never realised that that was 1891,

I always forget how old Dumbledore was

[sour pendant]

Understandable. JKR said he was like 150 in an early interview, and then it turns out he dies at ~115.

JKR really cannot math.

[serene anvil]

JKR doesnt math. JKR does meth.

[empty holly]

No she cant, im sure she was pulled up for something similar and she outright said she sucks at maths

[sour pendant]

JKR: "...I knew there was a five in there somewhere? :) shrug"

[empty holly]

I cant remember what exact she was pulled up for tbh

[sour pendant]

Might've been Charlie Weasley's birthdate.

Or Marcus Flint being held back.

[empty holly]

Oh yh

he was in poa when he shouldnt have been wasnt he

[sour pendant]

Something like that, yeah.

[empty holly]

Shes also awful time wise, A lot of the full moons in the story werent actually full moons IRL

like September 1st 1993 (start of Prisoner), actually woulda been the night before so 31st August)

[serene anvil]

Also every single year has September 1st on a monday for some reason?? Even though years don’t work like that???

[sour pendant]

-# It's Magic.

[empty holly]

We are just nitpicking now

[sour pendant]

But it's true.

[empty holly]

Yep

[serene anvil]

magik

[empty holly]

and 6th June same hogwarts year, Im SURE that wasnt a full moon IRL

[sour pendant]

Because...?

[empty holly]

I looked it up

6th of June in canon is all when it all goes 180, we find out about Peter and Lupin transforms, hence the full moon, i didnt just chose a random day

honestly that day has to be one of the most packed days event wise in potter canon

but the battle of hogwarts takes top spot

[empty holly]

it wasnt full moon June 1994 was 22nd June

[exotic swan]

How? Not everyone is naive stupid child who thinks can save the world all by himself...

Sorry, the conversation went too fast 😅

[empty holly]

We kinda butted in sorry

[serene anvil]

You missed 3 entire days of conversation

[empty holly]

Oh, lol

[exotic swan]

C'mon it wasn't that far back 😅😂

[empty holly]

it was more like 40mins

i just checked, I know you are joking btw

[serene anvil]

well maybe three days of moderate conversation

anything can fill 3 days of conversation

[sour pendant]

Except dead silence.

[serene anvil]

Well that can be 3 days of conversation to a deaf person!

[sour pendant]

Only if you're signing.

[serene anvil]

🫰 🫳 🙌 🤙 ✊ 🫷 🤌

[exotic swan]

Btw, you too?!! You are betraying us well? 😅

[serene anvil]

I AM NOT! I was cordially invited by some cool people to hufflepuff!

What’s that emoji for? Do you disagree that Effie, Clark, Naomi and Kate are cool people?

[exotic swan]

Just being hufflepuff says a lot 🤣

Reading HP from the first book and no one wants to be hufflepuff 😅🤣

[serene anvil]

Hufflepuffs and ravenclaws get along well enough though!

They have good values too

[exotic swan]

Values yes... results not 😅

[serene anvil]

Dw I’ll bring the average results down by 57% single-handedly

[solid hedge]

Im always slytherin. Even with wizarding world pf

[humble token]

Ravenclaw forevah

[fallen saddle]

Tru his sister itself said it can't be cured and she was terrified when he used imperious curse on goblin and slit The goblin throat In front of her

That type of act against is strictly idiotic

[exotic swan]

Exactly. He could use any other spell to stop it. As Solomon mentioned, the problem was he used unforgivable curse instinctively. That's real problem.

And Sebastian mentioned multiple times that Anne is like Ominis when it comes to dark arts. That's why she nicely said she'll go only if Ominis comes as well...

[fallen saddle]

Anne was terrified she never asked that

[floral saddle]

should i go to the ||Athaneum|| im level 9

[sour pendant]

One moment....

[sour pendant]

I'm not sure if the enemies in the Athenaeum scale to your level...but if they don't....I wouldn't, unless you're very confident in your combat skills.