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On my Slytherin mc after I 100% my account that was bad
walked past her near beasts class and she started talking casually then started mention Ferdinand's frame being destroyed and then the bells being disruptive
huh, never heard those lines before and I am finishing my 5th playthrough
Poppy in my opinion is a lawful good character, Evil people of course can be annoyed by Poppy.
she was like "you destroyed Ferdinand's frame , what gave you the right to do that?:
bruh it makes visiting her a pain in the butt now
Well, I can't stop you for being evil... So nice chatting with you.
Evil character surly thinks a good character is annoyed. So I will leave it here. No more
I've technically Platinumed my game but one of my trophies are bugged so I gotta replay the game and collect all of the collections to complete the trophy that requires the complete collections trophy bc I'm stuck on 602/603 collections completed
one of the butterflies didn't spawn lmao
#luciusmalfoycaneemoji
Never heard this either
I find it strange I hear voice bits from Ominis and Poppy but not Natty and Sebastian throughout the whole game
I've been following them around like a weirdo like talk to meeeee
The main companion characters share the trait of being determators to the point of being okay with murder if it means getting the justice the seek or reach the goal the seek
their goals are noble ones at that
I think the reason being for Sebastian having no dialogue post game is because he's not actually intended on sticking around for the post game , and that he's actually supposed to be betrayed which is probably half the reason he's mute and why ominis is most talkative
@safe pine Usually it could be several things, it could be because Ominis is nearby and there is dialogue being detected / interrupted from being said because they are both in zone within each other in the dark arts tower / dark arts class room floo flame locations. Usually this prevents the npc from having a generic one on one passerby dialogue chat with the main character sometimes because there's another npc probably bugging the text from activating
unlike characters like Natty or Poppy this wouldn't probably occur for them or any others with dialogue because they usually hang around by themselves, but Ominis and Sebastian are usually pretty close
Have you experienced Natty talking to you in passing? I've not heard anything from her either
yeah , sometimes during the post game she is in the hospital wing
Huh, I've been there post game and she ignored me
she only thanks you for defeating Harlow and constantly repeats that same dialogue I think
I can't recall any other dialogue
Ominis , Poppy are the most talkative then the people you usually help through side quests usually talk too if you hang around them long enough to trigger dialogue
No one likes my character then I don't think lol I've definitely just had Ominis and no others
Despite doing all the side quests
try casting spells around them
looks at Avada Kedavra
Okay dokes!
nah but for poppy though it might be because you either did a certain side quest in a way that didn't negatively impact her
there's a dialogue she says if you do a quest where you gotta find a frame and if you burn it she starts complaining
Huh
the quest where you gotta save Ferdinand's frame
I learnt if you burnt his frame instead of delivering it she will start complaining that you burnt it
Do those side missions where you help students find an item and then give it or keep it have a major impact on the main story?
no
still equally fun if you have an orginal character
I have an feeling that if we ever get dlc or a sequel and we ever get an opportunity to data transfer our character's file karma gonna hit us for those that did choose to keep items or do the bad ending lol
not at the moment, right now only characters will negatively behave differently to you , like they will talk to you as a enemy and not as a friend
but as I said before I reckon there's gonna be a sequel or some future dlc content with quests added that's gonna require us to either have good reputation or either the quests items needed for these potential dlc requirements or potential sequel and it's gonna screw us over for those that did screw those certain people over
Messing with Puffskein Dunskein gets good karma
Me hesitating between turning in Sebastian and not turning him in as if the choice actually matters lmao-
choice doesn't really matter yet it only depends once they confirm a sequel and you got a house of prioty you wanna continue with
I chose not to turn Sebastian in
Azkaban isn't some sort of rehab. Isn't it like some sort of torture jail? That can drive you mad? If you send him there, he might just become worse, and he's only 15 after all
Yeah he's a child
It's not a place to send him or anyone really
Yeah in Azkaban they basically just let dementors do their thing
It's messed up tbh when you think about it
I'm sure there's like fanfictions and stuff of what happens to Sebastian post game but like I don't dig that stuff that's not canon , I just like to theorize and speculate and just wait till it's officially revealed
right now I think Sebastian is supposed to go to Azkaban or he is set to go to some type of Ministry trial after the events of Hogwarts Legacy. Which will determine whether he goes to Azkaban or not. But then I think something will happen prior to that decision that will allow Sebastian to return in a future sequel, not as a companion/ friend but more as a foe who is struggling to accept you (the player) and Ominis for betraying and dobbing him in.
I mean Ministry trials are basically kangeroo courts in HP lore and they;d have Seb on several charges. Even if he gets off for the murder of Solomon due to the circumstances, he's not likely to get off the use of dark magic with the relic.
so far from what I know he's currently charged with
- Learning Cruciatus Curse
- Use of Cruciatus Curse (this one can be avoided as it's optional but I think it's canon for him to use it)
- Learning Imperius Curse
- Use of Imperius Curse
- Learning Killing Curse
- Use of Killing Curse
- Murder of Solomon Sallow (as well as an ex auror)
- Possession of dark spell book
- Possession of an dark ancient relic
add more please if I've missed any
Yeah he's basically screwed if he gets turned in. They're normally lenient when it comes to students (as in they can get away with just being expelled) but for stuff like that I don't think the ministry have much choice
Nah I think we can get away with not turning him in in a future game
He's one of the most favoured companions
They'll want to milk that I reckon so redemption is possible, not having him as a foe
wait learning the unforgivables can get you into azkaban?
...Sebastian has NOTHING compared to me
I don't even know how many people ive tortured and killed
he only used those curses once, but me?
You’re a monster.
ill do it again
i mean, what's the difference? burning someone to death or instantly killing them?
I'd say instantly killing them is better
Killing someone is killing someone
yeah cause he's been practicing it ,incantations , wand movements etc , there's no way a student would perfect it first try
imagine him doing a Ron Weasley and Hermione came out of nowhere and corrected him for saying either Crucio , Imperio or Avada Kedavra wrong lol
Ron: "CRUKIO!"
Hermione: "No, no, stop! You're going to make it painless. Besides, you're saying it wrong. It's Crucio, not Crukio."
Ron: "You do it then if you're so clever. Go on!"
Hermione: "CRUCIO!"
Ron: Screaming
It's actually kind of lore unfriendly how you can cast crucio first time on Sebastian
Like Harry couldn't even get it to work properly on Bellatrix
Chad Hogwarts Legacy MC
fr
But all 3 of us would have died if we didn't cast crucio so we kinda had to do it
Harry's just too heroic or something to cast crucio
I guess in that sense the MC meant it
although if i was in harry's place
I'd be crucio'ing bellatrix
whilst lighting her on fire for more pain
But Harry would also have "meant" to cause serious harm to Bellatrix
and maybe freezing her
So idk
and then casting diffindo
and then hitting her with crucio again...
and maybe force feeding her a wiggenweld... before torturing her again..
Maybe it's more once he was causing harm to her he realised he didn't want to keep continuing
Molly messes her up a lot worse than AK tbh
Mother's wrath is the fourth unforgivable curse
she deserved it
actually Sectumsempra is lol
so Molly's wrath would be the fifth
Unless they swap him out with Anne
I could see something happening where she could come back partially cured but able to be a companion/ do quests and stuff
Now that I think about it though, someone did say that Rookwood's death might cure Anne
It would be cool if it did
yeah I think Anne will definitely come back as either a friend / villain to the player who's not only seeking justice for those that are part of Rookwood's / Ranrok's lot but also seeking justice to the person who put Sebastian away and she asked to make sure that Sebastian didn't do anything bad
Inferi control via dark relic. child endangerment, (himself and other children)
Yah its not brought up cos thats just for gameplay if you wanna use them. Its only story relevant with Seb. If Ministry was to look at MCs use of it though, given its only used by them in combat against people who are trying to capture or kill them, MC could get off via self-defense in that case. Seb can't in his case with Solomon since Solomon was no longer armed by then.
Also I wonder if a sequel would have a bad ending for not turning him in, cos if you don't turn him in MC and Ominis and Anne are now at risk of exposure and charges of coverin up a murder and the murderer, and are already potentially accessories to murder anyway (in MCs case). So if there's a sequel and Seb's not turned in, then those 3 are even more at risk now then they would have been had they turned Seb in.
So we could get away with it because it was self defense, even though there were other ways to do it, right?
So could Sebastian get away with it for using it to save Anne?
In the case of the Goblin attack yes. In the case of Solomon, no. And none of that brings up his other use of dark magic with the relic. The reality is he's on the hook for murder, and several counts of dark magic in a non-combat situation.
So thats were he's gonna be sunk in a trial
But hopefully it remains covered up and we have a redemption arc and future MC can be their romance option (in the most appropriate way for the game)
tbh i think it makes sense not to have romance in the game at the moment
mc has a lot of stuff going on
Yeah I'm fine in this game with it
But if there's a sequel is really want mcs to be able to take that option if they wanted
Yeah I feel like they should add it in the next game if they can make it work
And I don't really see a problem with it tbh, because Hogwarts Mystery has romance in year 4, and if there's another game I'm assuming we'll be in year 6
Harry and Cho kissed year 5
The Spenlow twins would disagree lmao with everything rn and I would also , I'm not gonna lie but dating in Hogwarts legacy would be weird as hell for the voice actors the game would probably be bumped up a rating
no romance
as much as i love omi i don’t think it’s a good idea.
i think we should just let people do their own thing with [unspeakable word]. i don’t think it’d fit in the game anyway.
Yeeeah I wouldn't really go further than that
Like it's not something I think it needs, it's just a fun thing to give more to the companions as well
Buuuut that's why I always add the caveat of appropriate for the age
I'm fine with and without the concept
yeah
I guess romance is the wrong word
I just don't want my MC to be ignored by Sebastian and Poppy 😂
and omi saying the same five things :c
lol I've been cooking a meme for the past two days that I'm about to post that literally represents exactly what is said here
I only have like 3 things said
I'm excited to see this
it's out
So I just finished the quest where we defeat Rookwood and I'm left with a mixed feeling. What was the point of him? We see him barely throughout the game and then he suddenly appears at the end and we get grabbed by one of his minions and then black screen and then arena fight. How did we escape the clutches of our captor?
Also the previous quest has him and Ranrok turn against each other? Also Theophilus is still alive (Rookwood's lieutenant). Why would we take the boss before taking Theophilus?
I feel like the ingredients are there but not in the right order. It would have been better to see Theophilus betry Rookwood to gain control of the Ashwinders and Ranrok agrees to help take Rookwood if Theophilus can capture the MC for him (since Rookwood failed in Hogsmeade). Then we see Theophilus (instead of Rookwood) come to us in Hogsmeade and capture us (but we win and defeat him). Then the drill quest with Lodgok and at the end Rookwood learns Ranrok was planning to betray him so they fall out. Maybe it's just me but that feels more natural. Otherwise the fallout and then we defeat Rookwood and there's no consequencs of them falling out. Thoughts? Apologies for the Rookwood rant
hm interesting
You kill all his minions, Rookwood himself and then you just walk out i guess
no one can stop ya
you killed em all
and the place ain't far from a hamlet
Yeah I get that but from story telling it would seem to make more sense we work our way up the hierarchy to make Rookwood more vulnerable. Rather than we beat him and then Theophilus. Also Theophilus even gets a cutscene after we defeat him while Rookwood just explodes. He's a neat character and I think they could have done more with him. But alas
I think it's just a side effect of how rushed the last half of the game is
I'm inclined to agree
Seen the same thing happen in a few games, Divinity Original Sin 2 has the same fall
Like I've completed the story lines and it feels so weird that all the companions just ignore my MC, it doesn't make sense
I'd expect Sebastian to still talk since I didn't hand him in
Natty to acknowledge me in any way
Poppy to even pass comment on snidgets
Just so weird it's nothing
I bet they had a bunch of plans that got low priority when WB wanted certain things in the game
It's easy to speculate
We'll never know what plans were etc
I'm just delighted we were delivered a fantastic game and the teams should be so proud of themselves 😍
I think part of it is that there’s a side quest involving theophilus and the game doesn’t have a point of no return so they couldn’t kill him off if they wanted the side quest… honestly I think it made a decent amount of sense, it was clear that rookwood wanted no part in Ranrok’s scheme and the little kidnapping part was essential for wrapping stuff up with Sebastian
I'm not sure I follow what you mean about. They could have made the Theophilus' quest part of the main quest and removed that issue. I mean Theophilus is part of the cutscene where Ranrok said "You said you'd get to the child when they came to Hogsmeade..." so it's not like he was separate from the main plot. But then why was Rookwood working with Ranrok in the first place? If we learned that Rookwood was using Ranrok to locate the Repository for himself (which would make sense since he tells us in Hogsmeade that it should go to wizardkind) that'd make sense. What do you mean the kidnapping is wrapping up with Sebastian? We get kidnapped during a main quest, Sebastians arc is a side quest.
I'd say you're probably right, it felt like "Oh we still have Rookwood, let's shoehorn him in at the end"
I don't necessarily think it happened that way, though this is purely speculation. Generally the first thing stories do is the start and the end, since then it's easy to change almost anything in-between. So likely that they had an ending planned, but due to the first half of the game taking a lot of time, they did not have the time to give the character a proper buildup and send-off towards the end. They likely planned his death way earlier, but just not a lot of time to flesh him out within the story.
Yeah that's true, although it'd make little sense to kill him earlier given that'd put a lot of pressure to give him a solid build-up. I think they just needed another fight or two with him and Ranrok before the end. Seeing the villians at the start and end doesn't build much of a connection.
Take Mass Effect 1 for example, you fight Saren on Virmire and then in the last mission.
I didn't mean they should have killed him earlier, I just meant that they knew he was going to die from the start. And yes, what you're suggesting is what I'm saying, they didn't have the time to really build a solid arc for him, just a start and an end
I agree that theophilus could be in the main line of quests. What I meant by wrapping up stuff with Sebastian is basically that the kidnapping is needed so that Sebastian figures out who really cursed his sister.
I love how you can just go up to Sebastian on school ground and be like; “yeah I’d like to learn Avada Kedavera” and he’s like “cool this is how you do it”
pft
dude i swear
i didn't really like how when we learn avada kedavra
right after sebastian kills his uncle we just come up to him and go "No time like the present! :D"
Fr. Or you wait until the undercroft. But still-. Makes it seem like he didn't even have a single ounce of remorse for the dude which i wouldn't be all too surprised ngl-
Same
I mean I think he regretted it the second he cast the curse
he dropped his wand and everything
looked terrified too
but i feel like the only reason he would really regret it is because anne left him
mhm
I mean yes he regretted it, it seemed like. But it could just be shock or due to the fact he actually started thinking. And now that he recovered from it, he doesn't care much anymore
I wouldn't either
I mean I wouldn't look too much into that I think it's just the writing style there
A lot of things feel rushed. I hate that you can't really talk to them outside of quests and just ignore you as if that didn't happen or flying off with a hippogriff with Natty or poppy's dragon
The Dragon / Hippogriff one definitely felt rushed
but then again you can tell the area it was in was a area out of bounds
so it probably was meant to be rushed
I've always wondered, did Isadora know that when she took away her father's pain she also took away all of his emotions or was she completely oblivious?
From my personal opinion, I do not think that she thought about the bad consequences of her power. All she wanted was to help her father, no matter how dangerous the ways she chose, as Sebastian did for his sister, but greed blinded her somewhat, so she took advantage of this power to use it in her personal affairs.
...i just realised...
all of the companions are fatherless
poppy, natty, sebastian...
not technically, Natty and Sebastian is , Poppy's just a runaway
mmm father issues
relate
i'd consider her fatherless because her father isn't really in her life i dont think
I like to think that we killed every poacher too lol plus her father but there's a note lol that proves that apparently both parents are still alive living in Egypt I believe
Lol, thanks for the info
Like I always use the npc poachers as a potential gate way to a way to potentially make Poppy a poacher / Dark wizard in the future IF it was possible that one of those countless poachers were killed and Poppy decided to become evil / revenge on the main character lmao
it would be a good sequel plot
but unfortunately it's proven that it can't happen
Man wtf is yo with the side quest minding your own business
||The thing that's always bothered me in the game is why won't Sebastian become your rival/enemy if you start out as Gryffindor? He talks smack about the house if you start as Slytherin. I wanted my MC and him to become enemies at the start of the game but that didn't happen :(||
Seb cares more about saving his sister than house rivalries.
So true
But it would be interesting if he was hostile to my MC 😦
I think what this game tried to portray is what most people mistake about Slytherins: they’re not evil.
Not every Slytherin wants competition with rival houses or to go about world domination. Sebastian is clearly someone who values loyalty and friendship, but becomes blinded in the process of trying to save his sister. He’s one of the most genuine, real characters that we’ve seen in a game imo.
Some people view him as a selfish, evil Wizard in the making. While others, like myself, see him as someone who’s pitted in a tough situation that requires his persistence and determination to free someone he cares about from a debilitating curse.
I mean, look at Ominis. He’s more innocent than 90% of Hufflepuffs for crying out loud. He’s the type that would lightly slap you across the face and then cry later on in bed because he thinks he hurt someone… aside from Inferi. He seems already doing away with them, but tbh, they are already dead and trying to claw away at him and his friends, so… I suppose it’s warranted.
ominis 
you see the Ominis memes I made yesterday
not yet. i’ll have a looksie
Oh no I don't want to have the game have evil Slytherins. I just want a character who already hates Gryffindor to kinda reflect that.
I am okay with befriending out of House characters. NPCs like Grace Pinch-Smedley and Nerida Roberts are fine for people to help or befriend. But Seb clearly dislikes Gryffindor House especially if you start as Slytherin. I am just puzzled why he doesn't seem to be more competitive or dislikes a Gryffindor MC even so it makes sense for it to happen
I don't really understand why he wants to consider my MC his friend even so it doesn't seem very logical for him to befriend her. I always thought he'd only begrudgingly ask a rival house member MC for help because it's convenient.
Perhaps it is how a typical peer group behaves, where one badmouths a person to their friend group but when facing said person one acts totally differently
I don't mind characters showing house pride but I still think it's odd that the writing never leaned into the rivalry even when the setup is there. Especially for characters with strong opinions about the rivalry.
I always thought that a Gryffindor MC would not be able to befriend him. Really expecting it to only be a "business partnership" if nothing else. The MC will only consider helping his sister but they're not friends.
I kinda like that the rivalry between houses isn't too strong of a focus in the game! I feel like it was serrriously pushed in the books/movies and it's nice to have a perspective where "hey, we're all just students trying to turn in assignments on time and pass our exams" and whatnot. Though having rivalries sure can make things interesting, I suppose the encounter with Imelda Reyes is a good example of that
Yeah I was expecting some kind of unique dynamic to occur based on your choices. Imelda's kind of dynamic is what I am expecting with some characters who encourages the rivalry.
Characters like Ominis can just stay the way they are. I don't see him laser focused on house rivalries. But Sebastian is an odd case where he does encourage the rivalry but idk why he still thinks my MC is his friend despite being from a rival house lol
I mean I don't see why he wouldn't want to be friends with someone just because they're from a different house
It's not because they're in different houses though. It's just odd for him to want to be friends with a Gryffindor lmao
Did anyone else do the Haunted Hogsmeade quest in the middle of the night by themselves? I was surprised I got any sleep that night lol
||I also wasted 20 minutes blasting the heck out of a chandelier in the upside-down room because I failed to see the lantern hanging in one corner lol, not my finest moment||
I have, actually-- I actually enjoyed it. Well some of it 😭
Hahaha right? I was tensed up the whole time
So I don't get it
If either Sebastian or player casts crucio on each other, it means they both hate each other?
Like truly hate
Or it's more about desire, and their desire was to get out from that room?
Yeah it's more so desire then hate
Ye. I'm personally of the belief that he actually wanted to punch my MC in the face for wearing red nyehehe
Definitely to get out the room
His facial animations made it look like he was gonna throw up from nerves
Is that the PlayStation-exclusive one?
Is there anything that happens in 6th and 7th years?
Or do I get stuck in 5th until they release a dlc for money with new stories?
Stuck in 5th.
Indeed
I really wish we got more relationship lines. I feel empty after finishing poopy, natty and sebastian. It just feels kind of lackluster with the other students, even though that’s what the books and movies centered on a lot was Harry and his relationships with the other students.
Please proofread that
I wish the other mini lines had more to them, but you can only put so much in one game.
LOL
Ah yes my favorite hufflepuff poopy sweeting
You know, I’m glad that happened, I needed to be humbled.
it shouldn't have been this funny...
It took me three re reads to figure out what was wrong with the sentence
I think they should add professor options as well.
only the herbology one btw
the rest are not much of fun.

I love the charms teacher honestly, Ronen.
Fig. Yeah I adore Fig as a companion. We didn't take his class so not much to go on there.
Ronen?
seriously?
ugh

I will not stand ronen slander in this house
Then quit
Will you sit down for it then?
Unpopular opinion: I loved Professor Sharp, even though he isnt nice. I like his backstory.
I think that's a fairly popular opinion actually XD
Sharp isn't nice???
Sharp just does his job nothing wrong with that
You could probably think of him as the McGonagall of that era the strictest teacher in school
Yeah he was an auror and has real world experience. He's not gonna baby you and hold your hand. But he does respect you when you do well.
He's a saint compared to Snape
WAIT A MINUTE
hm?
You know, they COULD bring back Victor. He had plenty of time after seeing her kill that troll, poofing it into black and purple ash that he could have scoured the globe for information on how to create a counter or protection against Ancient Magic. Lord knows he has the resources to find whatever he wants. So when he finds he's losing, he'd enact the counter, which would protect and either disillusion or apparate him somewhere, leaving behind the illusion of black and purple ash behind. He could reappear any time.
oh no, not another Star Wars-like mess up... "Somehow, Victor returned"
Lmao
Hey c'mon now. Some of us liked him. If George Lucas can pull it off, Avalanche can, right?
I mean yeah, I liked him too... but to put this in Victors own words - "There is no need for such theatrics" 😄
LEL
Oh yes. There's absolutely a need for the Victor fans. Yes, he did say that, but you have to agree that Victor didn't follow that at all. I think he even said something like that twice, but he was in the front row of his own theater, cheering himself on for his own theatrics every time he felt like being capricious and impulsive. And I loved him for it.
Children should be seen, not heard! 
The literal "join or die" kinda guy. Can't fault him for that, I mean, c'mon. The Ministry did the very same things. Kill someone, call it justice. Victor does it - it's murder. Go into somewhere locked, the Ministry calls it espionage. Victor does it - it's breaking and entering. Take something that isn't theirs, it's recovery of an item of interest. Victor does it - it's stealing. And so on and so forth for every little thing from exploitation, blackmail, robbery. I mean seriously. You can't vilify him and take them seriously. Really.
oh for sure, I am a special kind of Gryffindor, a witch that specializes in torture and murder, so I would totally back Victor in a fight 😈
Do we have a literal Victor Rookwood apologist in the chat rn 😭
I think I love you already. ❤️
#Victordidnothingwrong
I'm right though. 😉
Every government in the world does it and then points to everyone/anyone else who does the same and calls them the bad guys. shrug Victor was just a businessman. 😜
No comment
they dont have to bring Victor back, but let me follow in his footsteps! 😈
Wat? No sympathy for the devil?
sure, why not, everyone needs love 😊
As of this moment, I claim Iris as mine to snuggle.
🫂
I had a moment where I couldn't decide if that should be a black heart or a red one. So I put both.
red, like the blood of my enemies 😈 and like my eyes
And black, for my little black heart.
beautiful combination
Agreed. Quite pretty together. Like blood flowing down black silk. claps hand over mouth Goodness. Where'd that come from. I'm so sorry. I'll try to keep my darkness subdued.
no subduing around me! 😈
Well I didn't wanna get a thwap from the mods for saying blood either. 😬
But I'll just hide behind you, yeah?
sure thing, I shall keep you safe
Well, I didn't get a thwap. Phew.
All blood is on Ranrok’s hands anyways.
I kinda think MC spilled more blood than anyone else...
Maybe, but I also think that in-story we don't actually kill nearly as many enemies as we kill in-game
No. He's unaffiliated with any house.
We saw Victor’s house. It was a castle filled with goblins.
All of them were Goblinclaw house.
"Your blood is on Ranrok's hands"

That's not how it works. You don't get to blame someone else for your actions.
What that means is that Ranrok indoctrinated them into following him, and they're hunting the MC in his name, so since the MC can't exactly simply hand themselves over or let themselves get killed, they have to fight to defend themselves. So if they do happen to kill in self-defence, it's Ranrok's fault for tricking the Loyalists into fighting for him. It's the same as 'Ranrok has fooled you all, to your demise!' But again, I don't think that in-story the MC actually kills as many people as they do in the game. I mean, the Full Body-Bind isn't lethal, but whenever we cast it, the enemy 'dies' all the same.
Yah they are there cos of Ranrock and fighting MC cos of Ranrock so as far as MC is concerned, its on Ranrock if they die fighting for him
My Mc is okay with being a hypocrite. “All blood is on Ranrok’s hands.” Loyalists, poachers, magical beasts, all of them.
I mean you live long enough, your gonna be a hypocrite bout something whether you know it or not.
You should be able to accept Victor Rookwood's offer to team up after you get the keepers wand. Whadda you think @thick narwhal
haha
Niamh Fitzgerald’s Trial was something impressive
I haven't played in months but I still agree
Same here
Adored seeing this trial in game
I’m need help please
There is a help section ^^ Maybe create a post there
sequel perhaps
and imelda and everett were also intended as companions
crime investigation stuff
actions can affect house points
the files say this person was a slyterin and pureblood and birth season and economic status
there looks like a lot of stuff was worked but not in the final game
damn lot of npcs did not like Ominis in these files. poor guy
I'll watch it tomorrow when my neck isn't trying to kill me
Dateline: Hogwarts Uncovered
Investigator at the crime scene: No single wizard or witch could slaughter an army of poachers, goblins, trolls and other magical beasts across the countryside like this, most certainly not a student.
Wait till Keith Morrison interviews MC....
"Is it true that you say you committed these acts of atrocity because a book told you to torture flaming opponents, flip Dubogs by their tongue, and launch enemies into destructible objects?"
"....But it said if I did- I'd get a hat!"
I don;t recall the guidebook saying those but if so then blame it
dueling feats
Ok then. Blame the book
Also launching foes into destructible objects is a pragmatic effective way of dealing with them
Or turning them into destructible objects and then hurling them into other foes
I'm actually glad Clopton got the boot lmao
If he was the Ravenclaw Companion, I legit would delete my Ravenclaw save. Thank god they axed him in favour of Amit.
||Also as for the person who found the Gaunt House questline on reddit... Let's say I know them very well 👀||
well, I think you can take him as companion, but perhaps Amit was supposed to have same treatment as Natty, Seb and Poppy
Y’all think it’s better to do all the side quests before the final ranrok quest? Or just get the final one over with first?
It’s better for me to do the side quests first cause Ranrok is tough
doesn't Ranrock look like something that would live under your bed when you're a kid
it does
What mode did u play on
I just saw something the devs overlooked
what is it?
After you find the dark magic artifact with Sebastian and he wants to talk to his sister, he says that when they were moving to his uncle’s house his sister was grabbing some family heirlooms, trinkets and PHOTOGRAPHS. Photos weren’t popularized until the 1900 and certainly a random family wouldn’t have multiple of them
That’s not even considering that it’s a muggle tech
🤦♀️
We also have a train thats not in the proper time period iirc
Do we ever see the train beyond the intro cutscene?
yeah
let's just pretend that they were... nobody has to know
Fits into the pattern of how History works in the Wizarding World. Inconsistent, incoherent, incomplete, and self-contradictory to a degree that several entire past and modern civilisations would have to time travel multiple times in order to make it work.
I mean RL history is different to some degree in the WW verse beyond the fact magic exists.
I didn't realize how contradictory and incoherent the past events were till you pointed it out. Then again I am a fairly new fan. I totally agree with your assessment however.
When you actually look into the question of when Hogwarts was founded, you first think that it's gonna be a relatively simple and straightforward if a little vague answer. That being about 10th century, according to chamber of secrets. Then you notice that the design and chosen location of the castle factors in things that, according to the lore as well as real history, wasn't much of an issue until the 15th century, and some architectural styles and building methods have been used that are newer than that. Then you notice how Merlin was appearently a student in Hogwarts, who in no version of the story lived after the 9th century, and in 90% of all versions lived as early as the 5th century.
The castle I'd wager looked very different back in the day and being a magical castle could change its architectural style and its size and inner spaces etc due to its magic ever-changing floor plan etc.
Merlin and King Arthur and Morgana you could explain with time turners or its just a case of WW verse history is different. Also Sir Cadogan's portrait has him anachronistic armor.
I like the HL architecture and aesthetic more than the film aesthetic
Especially the defence against the dark arts tower
I'd hang out there so much listening to the music
If it changes though
If it played that same melody over and over I'd probably jinx it
WHAT THE HELL WHY CANT YOU SAVE ANNE??
The level of nonsense
You know what I thought that we were gonna get a game where the Slytherin house wasn't gonna have flipping bad guys I WANT TO BE A HERO DANG IT
Because the power we wield was never going to save Anne, that's the point. It cannot take away the pain of the curse, it only affects emotional pain; and in removing that, it would just turn her into an empty husk. Don't you remember seeing Mr Morganach in San's memory?
Nah. The house itself isn't the bad guy in the game. ||I can feel Avalanche's resentment towards Ravenclaw tho. They don't even have a Companion and the most annoying characters in the game are Ravenclaws||
Yeah but that's not what I'm mad about I'm mad because "Oh no she's still cursed." Isn't a resolution I want. No we had to sit through Sebastian losing his mind and trying to help only to end up losing her because he did an evil spell to protect her.
They couldn't have made it an either or situation? Or sure you can do the unforgivables but if you do this girl won't get cured because you chose a dark path
I think Sebastian's story is supposed to be about learning to come to terms with grief and accepting that there are things you cannot control, and sometimes those things are very very painful
I haven't finished the game but if they make another game in the far future I hope we see what happens to Sebastian
Yeah I have played twice and I made the decision not to turn him in.
I get it. But I shouldn't have too my gripe is games giving you sad endings just because
I don't think this is 'just because'; there's a very clear message behind it
They gave me an illusion of choice. I don't think that's fun or fair.
If they wanted to put that very clear message they should have made it a choice that if you continue to help Sebastian to delve in dark arts you won't get a happy ending.
Not about saving Anne. In the immutable dialogue by the MC, they're quite clear on the fact that they don't think doing what Isidora did is the answer to curing her, and that the Keepers won't help them learn how to do it.
Let me clarify.
I know what the message is. I know that you can't use that ancient magic power and I know that isidora was wild for it. But at the same time MC could have found other routes to help prevent the same nonsense for Sebastian and his sister. I don't know why every dialogue option is "Hey maybe don't do that." Or "Let's see where this leads." And I always ends up as if I said the latter.
Sebastian side story line where he loses friends and family because dark arts? Why is their no option to prevent him from going that route.
Also avada kedavra the instant delete button is far better than some of the Hogwarts given battle spells.
Probably the most heinous is turning someone into an exploding barrel and flinging them at a friend
Also let me be clear I still love the game if I'm complaining it's because I like it that's a thing I do to media I like
Just because my tone doesn't translate well
Because deadlines
Game development relies on a lot of deadlines to meet until release date
His questline sucks after you get to the endgame because they rushed it without thinking much
Regarding Merlin... The inconsistency with the real world can be squared away by considering a descendant of the real world Merlin bearing the same name attending Hogwarts and being as gifted as his ancestor, thereby confusing magical historians.
Though since paintings can travel to each other if in the same building, he could have "borrowed" it from a later witch or wizard
I mean, the only option would be to physically lock him away, given his established character. He's the dictionary definition of stubborn. Of course, if we do lock him up, we don't have a story excuse to learn some or all of the unforgivable curses, depending on at which point we get to do it. Ominis wouldn't willingly teach any of them, he hates the Dark Arts.
I mean I guess a point is made that schools routinely fail at educating kids about empathy and self control, but a magic school? Here kid have a magical device that if used incorrectly will cause you to die.
In Sebastian's case, I don't think the issue is self control or empathy. He's seen what all of the "good" ways to help cure his sister lead to and he is not willing to accept that she can't be saved. That's honestly very relatable. That it ends up leading to such a dark fate... It's what makes his story so good, honestly. It's not as good as poppy's, imnsho, but it's still quite good.
One thing that confused me about poppy's story is that she's thinking poachers would behave like a mafia. That didn't make any sense to me
There are many real world medieval paintings of events set during the Roman Empire or even Ancient Egypt depicting them with weapons and armour of the time of the painter rather than the era he was painting. Mostly due to the painter not actually having any idea how Romans and Egyptians, or 1000 year old armor looked like, and assuming that things are generally the same everywhere, since the painter has never actually seen anything else. The Cadogan Armor and Sword can be explained that way. It would also help explain why sir cadogan is so clumsy. The real sir cadogan was used to late Roman Era armor and swords, perhaps even hand-me-down celtic gear. And since he's long dead, he can't learn or get accustomed to the super futuristic armor and sword from 1000 years later, causing him to attempt to wield them like they were the things from his time.
Lol, yup, definitely true! And hilarious.
yah but in this case, magic paintings have to be painted when the subject is alive to imbue it with the persona etc of the subject
though its possible his portait borrowed armor or this portrait was later modified
its not a big deal really
its just another anachronism
Not sure that's true. Dumbledore's appeared on its own after his death, without there being a preexisting painting of him
so far all lore indicates the subject be alive. they have to be taught by the person
AD would hsv had to teach his portrait
Reading the passage in the book, it sounded to me like dumbledore's just appeared on its own
Like it's the work of some charm that's always active
Sort of like the trace on underage witches and wizards
That is what I was originally thinking. That he took the armor from some other hogwarts painting
possible but not a big deal unless you really want to account for historical inacurracies
To get really meta, sir Cadogan's armor wasn't described in detail in the books, so it's a product of the film crew. In universe, it's probably more accurate for the period in which he lived
Yes, jk signed off on the movies, but that was with the understanding that they won't get every minute detail right
And that they'll probably change some details
That are actually integral to the story
so i found pottermore image which is usually more canonical
ya its wrong period armor
but like i said no big deal.
I'm still chalking it up to muggles making a mistake by not being aware of what it should actually look like, lol
While I prefer in-universe explanations for those things that make sense, the real reason is probably that Rowling slept during history class, as the entirety of Hogwarts does in Professor Binns class.
So if someone told her George Washington actually met Tsar Nikolaj II of Russia in person, during his presidency, she'd believe him, because she wouldn't know better.
I mean, most history teachers are professor Binns, lol
But given so many people sleep in Binns's history class, perhaps that's true of all the (british) Wizarding world, and thus most of what we're told about wizarding history aren't facts but random, uneducated guesses, and very few of them could even tell that the Roman Empire wasn't around anymore during WW2, unless they're old enough to remember. So for all we know, Hogwarts could be 300 years old, and Merlin predated it by over a thousand years, but still put things there, and that's part of why the founders chose the location for Hogwarts, and later people came to the conclusion that Merlin put those things there as a Student, when in fact it was during a time Merlin was an old man already and had mastered magic the Founders era had long forgotten.
That's a possibility too... That hogwarts is as old as we think it is, but built on top of stuff left behind by Merlin.
And the Wizarding community just being really bad at history
Hel, for all we know hogwarts is even older, from before the time of Arthurian legend, and people are wrong to think that hogwarts was founded in the 10th century
That's a possibility too
Well, the wizarding community being bad at history would go a long way to explain a lot of things that happened in the books/movies themselves.
I mean, in the third book, there's a passage from Bathilda Bagshots book History of Magic that basically sais that the Witch Trials had no effect on the Wizarding World other than causing laughs and pranks.
That's however the only thing that points towards something other than that the witch trials drove the magic population close to extinction, and that's why the statute of secrecy exists, and that's why the magic population is so small (at most seven thousand witches and wizards all across the UK and Ireland, including muggleborns not old enough to have gotten their Hogwarts letter yet, according to my math) and that's where the intense hatred towards muggles comes from.
I always understood it to mean that the burnings had no physical effect. That the atmosphere of hatred and mistrust caused quite a bit of emotional/psychological hurt, even if the muggles were so laughably bad at actually telling real witches and wizards apart
Frankly, far worse than hatred and burnings would be constantly pestering and forcing the magical people to do magic. Kind of similar to what we did in the real world to a certain group in a certain time. I imagine the magical community went into hiding to avoid that kind of fate
I know quite a lot about the real world witch trials. And while Wendeline the Weird certainly was a thing, I'd assume her to be an exception, not a notable example for what everyone did.
Whatever spell was used to render the flames harmless, how many people would be able to cast it wandless? And also, while burnings occurred, it's a myth that those were the only way of executing a witch. Beheading and hanging were more popular than that. The witch trials began in the 14th century in Switzerland and southern Germany, spread across Europe and lasted until the late 18th century.
I point at both Nearly Headless Nick and Fat Friar, who were both killed by muggles as a punishment for doing magic, during the relevant time period. And as such are victims of the witch trials.
As Pottermore was eager to point out before the release of the Fantastic Beasts movie, the Salem Witch Trials in the Wizarding World did claim several lives of actual but innocent witches, of which the MACUSA has a statue in their halls as a Memorial. (Engulfed in flames, even tho the accused in Salem were hanged, not burned, in real life)
The Salem Trials happened in 1692. The same year the Statute of Secrecy was put in place according to the 5th book.
They kinda retconned the original claim/lore which was from Herminone i think. They could have intended it to mean the European witch trials, not the Salem ones, were most of the people killed were Muggles, while many magic users were killed in Salem. Or its just the WW downplaying the amount of magic users actually killed in those periods.
Whatever it is, what there is in the books and movies, and what I know about the real world witch hunts, only fits together if the witch hunts drove wizard kind very close to extinction, and now Wizarding World (At least in Britain, may be different elsewhere) either lies about it or has forgotten about it.
the certain time period i'm talking about is early 16th to mid 19th century. perhaps the statute of secrecy is A) in part a reaction to that and B) just in general an attempt to have that not happen to them
i don't want to get more specific than that because it was an ugly chapter of our real world history and this discord server is not the place to discuss it
The explenation that they're hiding from the muggles, because the muggles would run their doors in wantingthem to cure cancer, fix climate change, end world hunger, abolish poverty, etc... I don't buy it. Simply because of the effort they go out of their way to do, the discomfort they're willing to bear. That's actually more effort the entire population has to undertake than it would be to have a ministry department making sure the muggle requests are taken care of.
them to cure cancer, fix climate change, end world hunger, abolish poverty, etc...
i'm not thinking half so noble as any of those.
their fear is that muggles would want to force them to use magic for truly vile and/or selfish reasons. and lack of any magic wouldn't stop muggles from forcing magical folk into servitude. the wizarding community does it to house elves, why couldn't muggles do it to witches and wizards? and no, we have no conclusive evidence of wizard magic being stronger than elvish magic. if anything, we have evidence of elvish magic being more powerful than wizard's magic. house elves can apparate around hogwarts and the locket cave and malfoy manor, areas that are supposed to be magically protected against people being able to apparate in or out of there.
The witch hunts were explicitely about wiping them out, as stated in the Malleus Malleficarum.
Attempts to force magic users into servitude would have happened before that. Among celtic tribes and Roman Empire and Ancient Egypt. But in those societies, due to the connections to religion Magic has had, those that were believed to have magic powers were well respected, even to the point of being considered ruling class. I don't argue the logic. But the evidecne doesn't really back it up.
(Not saying magic is real IRL, tho. But the people back then believed in it. That's a fact.)
they can't make food out of nothing last i checked. so they can't solve world hunger that easy.
They can't conjure it, but they can enlarge and duplicate
well the magic user populace was always much smaller than the non-magic user population from all indications. so it wouldn't be as hard back in older times to do.
true... but they can multiply already existing food. kind of sounds like making food from nothing. unless they need some sort of other material to substitute...
yes though dupilcated things rot more quickly so im not sure you'd wanna eat it
i dunno how well it would go being in ur stomach
if it rots in there quicker than can be dissolved
the no money conjuring is weird given anything could be used as currency
so it must mean certain metals and ores etc can't be conjured from nothing
hence the PS is needed for gold transmuting
The modern Muggle-Wizard ratio according to the Wizarding World would be around ten Million to one.
Historically that would translate to about ten worldwide in the year 1400.
But if we look at how common shamans are among tribal societies, we can assume a ratio of about 150 to one being more natural.
shrugs
i just know its smaller than the muggle population
and thats total not just wizards/witches
so you remove all the other magic species, its even smaller wizard/witch population in comparison to muggles
A reason to hide rather than fight. (Tho stuff like crop failures and epidemics like Syphilis and the Black Death were blamed on Witches. Which also did its part to make more people want to hunt them.)
I rember to fight ragnarok. So hatd
i struggle the first time I fight him during the final part im like how do you do this im like oh i should have know and I did defeated him.
Don’t forget idiot
Forget what?
That seb is an idiot
What do you expect from teens? I was an idiot as a teen.
Luckily I had more of a open mind. Still do.
taught a wild new guy in his 5th year all 3 unforgivables without question
Very nice of him
Craziness.
Hi people! Not sure if someone can help me with a waypoint question? There’s one that doesn’t seem to go anywhere and it’s so annoying
??
one what?
do I need to buy the dark arts add on in order to cast the dark curses?
Nope, premium is just special dark arts arena, evil clothes, and a thestral mount
thank you!
Why did fig have to ||die|| I was so sad
R.I.P Fig! One of the best professors in the Harry Potter franchise! They did him so wrong from the beginning on my opinion.
same though.
unfortunately i already knew before i got the game bc those idiots that started replyingwith spoilers to every single Hogwarts legacy tweet with it.
and i accidentally ended up seeing it.
at least the journey was still worth it
Definitely.
How so from the beginning?
Omg so sorry
Definitely still worth it
it´s alright heh
i still enjoyed the game a lot
glad that not everyone that looked forward to it got spoiled
Anyone else felt a connection with professor Weasley? She is now my mother
Also Gareth Weasley reminds me of seamus
she is a weasly
so makes sense
probably it´s where mama weasley got her caring side from.
while gareth is like the twins from the books/movies lol
i like her
Bruh I didn’t use potions and plants hardly the whole game. In the final battle I had zero heals and was one shot! So was the goblin king (lol) - my adrenaline has never been so high and I beat him on the first go.
congrats
hardest difficulty? i remember the entire game being easy except the dragon boss where I actually had to try but still easy once you memorize the attack patterns
Nah I don’t play on the hardest difficulties anymore. I played on normal which was honestly probably a little too hard for me 😅
Loooool
I play on easy lol the trials were too hard
Yes but mind you Molly was a prewitt right?
Gareth is defo giving me twins/ seamus love him
I love ominis too I feel like he’s in the wrong house lol
yes
yeah definitely.
sebastian you can tell...he belongs in slytherin.
but ominis is a kinda guy you genuinly could be friends with and nice to hang with
I loved Sebastian
tbh i admit.
i don´t know that much stuff.
only what my potterhead friend told me.
i mostly got interest bc of the game heh
but interesting.
guess professor weasley might came from the weasley dad side in HP?
but not sure
or maybe gareth is lore wise the great-grandpa or grandpa to the twins and ron we know
Just being crying my eyes out at Natsai realising her fathers death wasn’t her fault
How can a game do this to me 😂😂😭😭😭
wow
tbh sometimes games can hit you
same happened with RDR2 to me
🥲
i thought it was great to see her not blaming herself anymore
Yes exactly
She’s such a sweet character the way she sacrificed herself
So kind 😭😭😭😭
oh yeah.
seeing her jump in front of it was amazing from her and unexpected
Yeah and leander is from Molly's side
Yeah the dads side
makes me wonder if the twins still met a old gareth when they were little.
it would be possible.
since the twins were teens, so gareth might have made it to 100
I only found out from a random YouTube video lol
Right!!
oh wow haha
i like to imagine gareth sitting in his home when Voldy became a danger, and just thought to himself
i wonder what happened to that kid back then in school
if they were here, Voldemort would already be dealt with
Never mind that, let me crack open one of my famous brews
Looool
Right
Like is hogwarts legacy really cannon 😂
lol i would think so
never saw anything that would say otherwise
i hope though!
i wanna watch the movies down the road and imagine that my old character is living somewhere and still taking down some trolls and for fun and goblins and yelling: "your blood is on ranroks hands"
🤣
Probably a anti poacher legend at that point. “Those woods are protected. All poachers disappear!”
Yesss our character definitely would have shown up to the battle of hogwarts
And destroyed every single death eater.
Just casting experliamus, any of the spells that have the curse effect and then cast avada kedavra on one of them to take down every single deatheater
😆
Our character would have finished the battle within minutes.
By throwing rocks at them and using ancient magic
Imagine the battle and suddenly you hear from the distance: your blood is on ranroks hands
Interrupts Voldemort’s speech with their Ranrok cries
Right lol we should have our own chocolate frog card at this point
😭😭😂😂😂😂
Haha well i hope someone ends up editing a movie clip and doing that
😂
Sounds dang hilarious
I chuckle just imagining it
|| Is it just me or Solomon Sallow's death caught me THE MOST of guard. Like the death of Ranrok, Hallow and Rookwood was kinda expected n stuff and prof. fig's death was also kinda unexpected but SEBASTIAN KILLING HIS UNCLE, never would've thought that ||
last main quest spoilers n sebastian storyline spoilers
yeah sebastian is a nut
definitely would have been another voldemort if he didn't get ||sent to azkaban||
Like he could have used the petrificus, he could have trasformed him into something but no he chose to kill him
screw loose!
i sometimes wonder what would have been if sebastian had ancient magic lol
I chose to not send him there, so he's safe in hogwarts! We already lost ||
|| and losing ||Sebastian|| can be avoided
Btw doing this spoiler thing in the spoiler chat is kinda annoying lol
It would be a MESS. He already knows all the unforgivable curses and even ||killed Solomon, caused mayhem and more due to his knowledge||. Wielding ancient magic which is extremely powerful, dare I say more powerful than unforgivable curses would give Sebastian a ticket to the VIP section of Azkaban
Btw hot take but I think Sebastian would have blocked ||Harlow's Crucio attack instead of Natsai taking the hit||
Idk about playing as him
Because Sebby is legit my favourite companion to meme on for the lulz
See that sack over there? Imma drop it on his head
Dude glitches out so often, he's my personal favourite meme
He's a master at duelling and unforgivable curses and powerful so I dont mind playing as him but he doesnt have ancient magic so i cant throw barrels at enemies and certain spells may be useless (Example- transfiguration spell, no ancient magic, no throwing explosive barrel that was once an enemy to other enemies) and ofc the ancient magic boom boom, he doesnt have that as well
Though it will have to change a lot of the story
definitely, we'll have to deal with his uncle alot and ofc the whole story will mainly be finding a cure for anne.
Woah I have my own shop now?
playstation exclusive unfortunately
but we "scrubs" will hopefully get it in februrary
😅
LITERALLY the most scariest quest for the damn shop. I didnt expect hogwarts legacy to lowkey turn into a horror game
those ||mannequins|| moving got me alot, especially the 2 jumpscares as well
And the whole place being dark af as well
Hopefully we get an update/dlc soon, no idea if we will. Devs hopefully havent left the game just yet.
in the playstation trailer for the quest, they did say: exclusive through Februrary 10, 2024.
so i assume we get it shortly after
if you check steamdb, you can see how the game has 2 seperate "hidden" dlcs.
which i assume would be the quest and the potion
Salomon's dead is indeed ||unexpected||
Do you have to?
Nah I sent that boy down
Yesss
He was my fave too until he started acting cray cray
dude spoilered the wrong thing lolol
Jump scare and when that ||spider|| jumped out what da fuq!!!
I was so distressed in that quest lol
lolol
Awww
Nah penny is a snake
I mean technically what he did wasnt wrong 🤷
Imperio on the goblin to avoid Anne from being killed
Solomon tried to kill Sebastian and us so Sebastian avada kedavra'd him to avoid death, I mean sure petrificus totalus can work but only temporarily,
once he was back to not being petrified, he'd be mad af, report us to the headmaster, get us expelled or kill us to save the hassle
still can´t wait to experience it when it hopefully drops in februrary
There’s a good final battle
yeah i saw clips.
still doesn´t beat playing it myself heh
Imma be real. No one in the game is interesting enough for me to remember outside of him even if he's a trainwreck kekw
Though my interest in this character boils mostly to the meme potential
he didn;'t try to kill him despite what gameplay makes you think. He just destroyed the relic, then Seb struck him first, then he attacked. Lore-wise, he wouldn't be tryna to kill I think. Gameplay wise he only attacks MC i think and uses potentiallyl lethal spells
He could have handled it all better though like, deal with inferi first, teleport everyone outside next, then destroy relic.
then subdue seb if he attacks him
also he could have let seb give the poltice to anne earlier
like at least relive her pain even if a cure is not possible
Because he destroyed the relic the zombies weren't under the control of Sebastian, and clearly Solomon didnt attack the inferi, instead he attacked us. I dont see why its a problem Sebastian used a "basic cast" spell on solomon considering he literally made the zombies back to normal and lethal.
I think Sebastian states he controls them
And then our character says hey they attacked me!
Exactly. They were also seen around Feldcroft so peoples lives were at risk. Seb had to be stopped and he is the one who directly attacked first. Both could have handled it better but they are only in that situation cos of Seb
Yah and yet people were attacked by them so either his control is limited, and he only thinks he is controlling them all or he's actively just letting them do whatever outside a certain radius to him or he does know that there's Inferi animated that he is not aware of or in control of.
Inferi are so scary. I don’t need an arachnophobia mode, inferi are much worse
i just view them as zombies in a way.
and i played zombie games before, so not that different.
except that you don´t have to fight them via melee attacks heh
lol I feel like the arachnophobe setting is even scarier in a way
they look like weird spider poltergeists and Im still imagining the real spiders
inferi never scared me really they're just zombies, hit them with confringo and incendio and ull be fine
They’re not too hard to fight, but they jump out at me and I’m a chicken.
Spider poltergeist is a cool way to describe them
yeah think the same lol
maybe it´s also that i can just 2 shot them at this point haha
i remember when i started playing i had a uneasy feeling going into caves.
since i thought i would get a jump scare.
but there was never really something that was thaat scary
the spiders were the jump scare for me!
oh they can be annoying!
i hated those massive ones since they were sooo difficult to kill
especially on lower levels
the only time i had trouble was in the 2nd trial iirc.
and the guardians surrounded me and got me
i disliked them though since they are annoying little things
Yeah going into caves you just know some bs about to pop off lol
haha
oh and then they like to surprise you with attacks.
at least checkpoints are never too far
Exactly
I know many here felt the same way, but never has a character torn me more than Sebastian. One the one hand, I do want to save his beloved sister, but on the other, the way he imperused that goblin to committing sepukku was just plain harsh. I mean I commend him for saving his sister, but I could’ve just descendo’d the goblin into submission.
I agree tbh
Sebastian deserves to be in Azkaban
during my 1st play through where i was playing the good guy and did all the right things, i sold his ass to azkaban lmao
Nah same
k
I actually wonder if that relic we found corrupted his mind. Either way, he needed therapy, not Azkaban. But that’s just me.
I wholeheatedly agree. What he did was utterly insane and absolutely should NOT be swept under the rug, but Azkaban is quite literally the worst place for him.
I just wish there was a therapist for wizards. Either way, I forgive him, but I won’t forget his actions and neither should he.
Given how he was said to be by Ominus and Anne it may have, or it may have just been his own obsession taking him further then it had so far. It doesn't excuse what he did prior or during his time it and what occurred minutes after its destruction.
In the end, no matter if we turn him in or not, he’ll spend the rest of his days alone without his sister and with a guilty conscience on his shoulders.
Yah unless you headcanon him not or we get a sequel or info which reveals his fate in both outcomes
Matter of fact, there is a sequel in the works.
Can we get a source on that?
Some guy on twitter saying so doesn't equal confirmation given his source is "Trust Me bro"
I had a feeling it was too good to be true.
That aside, I was genuinely surprised when I beat Professor Ronen at Summoner’s Court on the first try.
Valid lel
Professor Fig is a real one for not telling on MC because they snuck into the Restricted Section.
He doesn't even want to know how we did it. 🤭
Plausible deniability. And Fig was gonna go there with us anyway.
Do we ever learn anything about MC's family?
Nope nothing
They’re very much a blank slate so the player can make up their own personal headcanon
We only know they show familiarity with and know some things about WW and not other things making it hard to tell if they are muggle born or not.
How’d you react when Victor Rookwood said, "Children should be seen and not heard."?
:o
"GRRRRRRRR REVENGE FOR ANNEEE"
“Maybe I shouldn’t have killed him yet.”
Killing him was definitely a mercy.
I saved up all my Ancient Magic moves for that jerk
I just think that maybe he could have (unwillingly) helped us undo Anne’s spell
He probably could have but then again if he could he might as well just kill us
Do you think we'll ever help Anne with that curse?
Maybe we end up taking that curse from her but having that curse on us
What is the last mission in hogwarts legacy after main story? (plz no spoilers)
Winning the house cup
SPOILER!!!!!!! WHYYYY I HATE U GUYS
That's the name of the mission 🗿
The missions name is end of the term feast
It's not but youre very adamant so I ain't gonna say anything else.
Ran rock is a dragon
I finally encountered Professor Sharp on my switch edition of HL and boy they did him dirty 😭😭
What did they do?
I see your point.
That ain't Sharp that's Shart
Please never show us what Ominis looks like on Switch.
Or Sebastian
Him too
I wish summoners court was a permanent side game
I really enjoy it 😭😭😭😭
For some reason I find it therapeutic lol
I only did it to bully Leander
i actually wish you could play accio matches whenever you want.
and the crossed wands.
similar to the time trials.
you can also do them again and again.
Yesss I don’t understand why they didn’t keep this as a constant seems like a no brainer
There are the duel places like in the north bog but it’s more fun to do it with other students at hogwarts
yep!
sure disable the unforgivables.
but still
and it would be a easy thing to do.
just increase their health and damage with each round.
Exactly!
kinda funny how they basically let you do the most boring activity whenever you want.
but the actual fun ones...not lol
Right!
I wanted to play gobstones too
They realised teased us with that I think you can play it on the mobile game
Not really. It's just a friendship interaction, you can't actually play the game.
Omg imagine if you could play wizards chess ha
Ah gotcha
Is there any lore on the games actual rules?
Just like marbles except when your opponent loses a point they get sprayed
I see
For Wizards Chess? It’s just regular Chess but with ✨Violence ✨
And yeah Gobstones is just marvels with you get sprayed with foul smelling liquid if you lose a point
Can someone explain what’s going on with Isidora’s father in San Bakar’s memory? I can’t read non-verbal expressions but he looks to me like he’s had a very large overdose of the imperious curse (his eyes look like Ominis’ after he’s blasted with imperious)
The thing is, we’re not told how that happens. We see Isidora taking his pain…and that’s it. How could he be drained of his emotions?
Hi there. I wonder if the thing that Isidora did to her father was some kind similar to a dementor’s kiss, maybe a bit stretched in time?.. He seemed like a soulless man after all.
Pain is emotion. Don't you understand? In taking his grief he no longer cared that his son was dead.
That's the entire theme of the game, the books, everything, it's love and its complexities, the joyful parts and the sad ones too. Like Professor Fitzgerald said. 'Light cannot exist without shadow, nor shadow without light.'
She takes more than the pain and fools herself into thinking she only took the pain.
Her journals say that she did it on others and they ended up the same.
In her memory, there’s a kind of fuzzy static where her father thanks her and looks happy, but I think that’s the dark magic corrupting her to believe it’s the right thing and that her father WAS happy, essentially creating a false memory.
This is also hinted at in her journals where even after seeing someone she “cured” they seemed empty, the rush of power from the corrupted magic made her feel it was right.
He became a vegatable due to the magic she used on him.
If only there were a way to improve the magic to make it possible to remove mental pain without essentially taking away your soul.
Magic isn’t infallible and there are limits to what can and can’t be done.
There are always risks involved with any magic that affects a person physically or mentally.
Human transfiguration if done incorrectly can leave you stuck partly transformed and in agony until you’re cured by someone else like a skilled Healer.
Apparition can leave you Splinched which, while possible to fix, will leave you with permanent scars as it’s a magical injury and all magical injuries leave scars rp that can’t be removed,
Memory Charns if dine incorrectly can leave you with permanent brain damage that no amount of magic can fix. Like Lockhart who ended up needing ti relearn basic things like reading and writing and even then he was at the level of a child and needed permanent care at St Mungo’s.
So magic, even Ancient Magic, being used to take away someone’s pain would of course come with a caveat that it would take all emotion from a person. Because pain is an intrinsic part of the human experience and without it, how can you grow or learn or overcome? You’d just stagnate.
Guess it really is wishful thinking.
Some seem to think that magic is limitless and capable of anything when it’s not.
You can’t bring back the dead (not properly anyway, reanimating dead bodies into Inferi is not the sane thing as those you reanimate aren’t the person they were just magically animated corpses.)
You can’t create love. Things like love potions only create a very powerful artificial infatuation, but not real love.
What did you guys tell Ominis when he heard you exit the Undercroft? I decided to be honest and tell him Sebastian showed me.
I was honest too, I knew there was no other explanation and he wouldn't believe a lie
I'm doing the scriptorium quest. Should I learn the crucio curse, or no? This is my Good Person (tm) playthrough, so I'm not sure I should learn it at all. Definitely not ever gonna be using it if I do learn it tho
There's not much of a difference between whether you learn it and don't use it, and if you don't learn it at all. But learning it will occasionally give you duelling feats with that spell, so if you don't want to use it at all then that will mean sometimes you just won't be able to perform that feat.
Same. I didn’t want to betray Sebastian and tell Ominis, but if I’ve learned anything, it’s blind people who can see liars the best.
Ominis tells us that his father has connections to the headmaster and that he is not afraid of exploiting that. However, we learn (in the Secret of the Scriptorium quest) that Ominis is effectively alienated from his family. I assume that threat about his father’s connections was an empty threat given that he doesn’t talk to his family anymore?
I'd say it's a bit more complicated than that, as someone who also has an abusive family.
That's exactly the reason why I was so confused when he said that. Sebastian had just explained to me how Ominis didn't want anything to do with his family.
I really want to get ahead in the story and form stronger connections to the other students (Natty, Ominis, Sebastian etc.), but I'm struggling with the trial in San Bakar's tower.
Just because he doesn’t want anything to do with his family doesn’t mean he lacks the sane pull. He’s still a Pureblood Gaunt at the end of the day.
Black would still listen if Ominis came to him with grievances..l because he’s a Pureblood Gaunt. Ominis doesn’t even need to talk to his family, just throw the Gaunt name around and other Pureblood fanatics would listen.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
Black is so rude. He doesn't even want MC there (hence the letter he wrote to Professor Fig) and he's a pureblood fanatic for sure. 100%.
He's racist yah but he's not as extreme as LV or DEs. He's appalled by them in the books going by his portrait. But yah he is a dick in the game and a coward.
He's making Fig do his dirty work, isn't he?
Taking care of MC seems stupid to him, so he handed the task to Fig to get it off his back.
Hermione was carrying his portrait in her bag, right?
Was she? Don't recall if so. I just recall he was upset over Sirius's death.
She did in the 7th book so that he couldn’t reveal secrets or plans overheard at Grimmauld Place as he had a frame there he could go to freely from his frame in the Headmasters office.
The fact many certain choices don't really impact much is... dis-appoint-ing.
Really is. Even just having a few main story direction breaks would be wicked and make for greater replayability. Specially in relation to having the house specific quests.
I recently met Poppy in my game. She's so sweet. 🤗
So how would our Player Character rank in power level compared to other HP characters.
At full potential on par with or surpassing AD etc
Like how would they stack up when compared to the heavy hitters of the wizarding world, (Dumbledor Volvemort, Grimwald ETC.)
,,,Grindelwald. XD
Like I said, based on what we do in HL was a teen, as a full potential realised adult we are on par if not superior to them all
And that’s before we consider our mc having a massive power boost via AM repository absorption
Y’know, our character is only two years from being an adult.
We are also only just learning magic and we grasp everything quickly and excel at them.
So I’d argue that MC is definitely more powerful.
👀 So how come Voldemort wasn’t liquified the second he showed his ugly noseless face in the First Wizarding War?
Because HL, while canon compliant to the lore, isn’t canon to the HP universe.
Source?
Was it written by JKR? Or have her input at all?
No it did not, therefore it’s non canon.
It’s in the sane vein as other HP games. It’s a derivative work set in the Wizarding world. But it’s not canon.
It’s derivative, but uses the copyrights that she holds in respect of various aspects of the Harry Potter world and specified names
Yes, but it’s not canon to her world. It’s a licenced work. In the same category as the LEGO HP game or the games based in the films or MA and HM.
I never said it was canon. It would be difficult if it was as I’m not sure it entirely follows the primary canon anyway
One of the only parts that was Canon were the Weasleys and Phineas Nigellus Black
I agree on Black, but do we know for certain that Matilda and Gareth Weasley are canon?
it’s mentioned his robe is a hand-me-down so at least Garreth could possibly be canon but I’m not 100%. It’s just a possibility.
Unless I’ve missed something (possible), where does Gareth say that his robes are hand-me-downs?
I meant Ron
I think that meant they’re hand-me-downs from Fred or George.
It’s canon compliant in having Black the headmaster and having him be the garbage headmaster he is, but we don’t know if Garreth and Matilda are canon Weasleys or not.
Avalanche tried to make the game as canon compliant as possible, even changing things/assets after fans pointed out errors during streams/footage shared like a chudley cannons poster having the wrong amount of wins, Key art that had the Whomping Willow (it wasn’t planted until Lupin started) and Chocolate Frog packaging being purple (it was changed to a light blue)
oh, nevermind then lol
that’s my mistake. I figured Garreth at least due to Ron mentioning his hand-me-down robe but someone else said it may have been from Fred or George so I take the Weasley part back.
Me! It was me! I said it! 😮✋🏻
that is actually cool to have them change assets when corrected
Yeah! The KeybArt error was one of the first ones! Then the Chocolate Frog packaging (as canonically, the packaging was changed in 1926 or thereabouts) that was spotted during a dev stream where they were showing off the RoR. Oh and they changed the packaging for Fudge Flies as they didn’t exist yet so that asset look was changed to sonething different
oh cool!
would be fun to look at that
Thank goodness for nerds. 😌
I started Charles Rookwood's trial last night.
Time to continue.
Go for it!!! 🥰
@sour pendant may I speak of the spoiler here ?
You may. 👉 👈
So, in the game, when you sneak into the Hospital Wing-
There's this note by someone's bedside table, it's heavily redacted ( it's words are crossed out by the Professor Black so we don't know WHO-) BUT, I guess a student got injured by a ball- lol
Oh, I thought you found out what the redacted part was. 😂
Noooo, I wish !
If we were in the game.....I bet you we could torture the Headmaster into letting Quidditch happen
We'd just break his spirit-
What do you propose? 👀
We just do what Fred and George did to Umbridge....
TORMENT. PRANKS. FIREWORKSS IN HIS FACE.
Yeah, but we're not resigned to not finishing our seventh year. We're only in fifth year. :c
Dang youre right. We'd still find a wayyyy
Pull a "crossed wands". Unsanctioned quidditch league
👀 Brilliant. Why didn't Imelda think of it?
I know, right?
I'd hate her guts.
Kinda need to beat her time now
That's why I like sebastian. He's a slytherin, but he's nice
Indeed. He and Ominis and Grace Pinch-Smedley are our only examples of nice Slytherins. It seems the breed died out about a century before the books started.
Yeah
Pity.
Yeah, but he was still racist....
@steel plank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeS1pITHufo&t=8s
Given
Neither was Merlin
Yep
I hate that Imelda made a comment on "useless Squibs". Minus the pureblood ideology, I love the dynamic between her and MC. There's nothing wrong with some good competition.
I already beat her time twice: near Hogwarts and on the Irondale course. I'm so excited for when the next one comes up.
And not all bad guys end up in Slytherin.
Exhibit A: Peter Pettigrew.
Yeah, but Peter's evil wasn't anything to do with bravery. In fact, it was actually to do with the rather opposite, Slytherin trait of self-preservation.
Why was he in Gryffindor, anyway?
The only thing I can think of is that he made friends with Sirius and Remus at the start of first year, on the train, and they both went to Gryffindor, so he's like, "Well, that's where I'm going too, then!"
And Lockhart who was a Ravenclaw
Back to the HL story: Ominis says you have to want to cast an Unforgivable Curse on someone. I think the reason Sebastian could cast it on me in the Scriptorium was because he had to want it in that situation out of necessity.
Yeah, but Gilderoy Lockhart wasn't really a bad person. He was just a self-centered moron.
That's a good theory!
He was a thief. He stole other people's ideas. I think that makes him a bad person.
True, but he's not really a threat...
If Noctua Gaunt was down there alone, was she doomed anyway? Or did she have to cast Crucio on the painting in front of her?
I wonder if she needed another living, flesh-and-blood thing to cast it on. Otherwise, why couldn't she have cast it on herself?
Maybe she could have, but we know she refused to cast it at all and that's why she died down there, right?
I mean
He stole other people work and experiences and then Obliviated them to a point they couldn’t contest his claims and became incredibly rich and famous for exploits that weren’t his.
And then he was ready to Obliviate two twelve year old boys and leave Ginny to die and make himself the hero that saved the boys after they weren’t “mad”,
He wasn’t a moron. He was actually very clever.
The only reason his other magic sucked was because he got so good at Obliviate and used it so much, his ability with all other magic deteriorated.
Maybe that's why. Maybe she wouldn't have cast it on someone/something else even if she could have, even if it would save her life. Or maybe she would've, just out of desperation, but the fact that she came alone really was her downfall.
Tru. He would've never affiliated with Voldemort, tho, I don't think.
Salazar Slytherin's letter about wanting to "purify" Hogwarts was disgusting. There really wasn't more to his ways, as Noctua thought. He was a pureblood supremacist through and through.
Yeah you needed another person to cast it on, otherwise Seb would have cast it on himself.
He was more than willing to have it cast on him to get into the Scriptorium.
Plus I don’t think you can cast Unforgivables on yourself, they require intent and focus. And you’d lose nothing of those the moment you cast Crucio of yourself
Sebastian using Imperio to make that goblin unalive himself was a bit much.
I get he wanted to protect Anne, but... I don't know.
In a way setting up ol Voldy
And Grindelwald.
Yeah
Considering the fact that Feldcroft is constantly mentioned of being attacked, I don't blame Sebastian one bit. He's tired of them attacking his little hamlet & with his sister sick, he's not letting them kill her when she's having one of those moments where the pain is so bad that it makes her unable to defend herself.
I fear there might not be a cure for Anne.
Often with dark curses the only way to undo them is for the person who originally cast them to remove it.
Which considering MC turns Rookwood into confetti… is impossible.
Oops
Oopsies
This! Especially when he has every reason to believe that a goblin caused those ‘moments’ to begin with. He’s absolutely not going to let them hurt her again.
Quite possibly. We don’t know for 100% certain.
Victor Rookwood wouldn't have reversed the curse anyway.
Potentially
A lot of dark curses are otherwise impossible to cure.
Like blood curses
They can only be cured by the one that cast them so if they’re gone…
Could’ve Imperio’d him to.
I didn't think of that.
I love how the dragon thanked MC and Poppy for returning her egg. 🥺
Er…by not roasting them alive?
I think she looked at them like she was acknowledging them.
I'm like Hagrid, okay?
They're deeply misunderstood creatures.
lol. In any case, not roasting you alive is the greatest gift a dragon can give you.
Honestly, the way Anne looks when he casts Imperio on instinct says it all. She's having one of those extreme pains that incapacitate her to move & her reaction time is slowed by the sickness. Sebastian acted fast & saved her. True, he's so full of hatred that he can cast the unforgivables, but his sister means everything to him & nobody takes her from him.
Thank the rock walls for protecting us
MC can cast any Unforgivable..
And he’s disgusted and angry that goblins are so despicable that they’ll attack a defenseless person who isn’t doing them any harm.
Yep, and we’re not full of hatred.
Definitely not
We want our enemies dead/to suffer, too. It’s just that Sebastian wants it really, reeeeally badly, especially in that moment, so it’s easier for him to cast it.
You don’t need to be full of hatred to cast Unforgivables
You only need the intent to cast it.
You don’t have to hate the lesson you’re casting on. You just have to truly intend to torture/control/kill them
Tru. Otherwise Seb could never have cast Crucio on us / we could never have cast it on him.
Yeah like even Harry managed to cast Crucio successfully on Carrow just for spitting on Minerva.
He didn’t hate him
He just wanted to hurt him.
Thank you, rock walls. 😌 You are the true heroes of this tale.
The rock walls are burned now cuz they were protecting us
We owe them
😭 How can we ever repay them?
We owe them our lives🥰
So…we have to unalive ourselves? 😰
We'll just go now. Have a nice day
It's so sad when Solomon sends Sebastian away. He shouldn't keep him and Anne apart. 💔
It's very sad, cuz although Sebastian did use an unforgivable, he still showed kindness when it came to his sister afterwards. It's that big bro instinct of protecting his sister... the kill or be killed one & he acted in time. He has more than likely saved her more times than we know of. There's no telling how many weekends he's gone home to be with her either since Quidditch got canceled.
They have ancient magic too, which Sebastian doesn't have.
He has every right to protect his sister from them. We'd do the same if we were in his position honestly....
Sebastian has it in him to protect his sister & nobody gets to take her life... ever again.
I would Avada Kedavra that goblin thrice
Absolutely.
That almost certainly is not a factor in them being able to cast the 'Unforgivables.'
Actually, is he the older brother? Maybe Anne is the older twin?
;-; That's a fine way to repay them.
I know, but it would add some extra pain to it... a little enhancement if you will.
Maybe. Maybe not.
He's certainly acting like it....
Just because he's protective of her?
It's more than that, it's the unbound determination to get her better regardless of the obstacles in his way. He's like another big brother from a different series...
shrug It's possible.
I'm seeing that Sebastian is acting more like Ichigo & Kaiba when it comes to Anne. "Screw the rules, she's mine to protect & I'll do it how I want." That's what I'm seeing, but that's just me.
Yes we would, especially for Sebastian had we gotten there first. At least then he wouldn't have been kicked outta the house. 🥺
I wonder if Solomon would've actually sent us to Azkaban for using Avada Kedavra.
Sebastian was kicked out for Imperio, so yeah... most likely Azkaban for the killing one. When I read the book on those, it was a life sentence for using any of the 3, but especially Avda Kedavra.
If you cast unforgivable, does it effect you (in make you "Dark) or is it just another spell in your toolbox?
It's just another spell. You use it the same way you use Confringo.
Oh cool
Man I should've pushed Sebastian out of the way and killed the goblin myself
Heh, me too.
I mean we do a lot of goblin and poacher killing anyway
Another one isn't gonna make a difference
Then watch him cry cuz he's spared from being in trouble.
Worth it
Nah, he'd be like, "Hey, I saw that goblin first!" XD
He'd also be happy about his sister being saved, but also crying later cuz nobody has ever done that for him. 🥺
And then we'd hug him.
That sweet boy needs a lot of em.
Yassss
Him & Omi both. 🥺
Are there enough hugs in the world?
Not near enough
"you forgot the first come first served rule!!!"
MC gettin to save Anne would be worth it....
Worth dying
Dying? Haaa.
I get the feeling Isidora didn’t read Beedle the Bard. More specifically, The Warlock’s Hairy Heart.
Probably not, considering she's Muggleborn.
Ahh. Fair point.
Actually Isidora has no confirmed blood status
Well, her family certainly seemed like muggles...
Where is that stated?
She grew up in Feldcroft… a Wizarding hamlet in the highlands.
Oh. True.
She grew up in Feldcroft in Hogwarts Valley and it's unlikely she's not exposed to the Wizarding World
Knowing that Charles Rookwood resides in the castle nearby, I would assume that she must have lived under the impression that she was from a family of Squibs
Maybe she was?
Or that she was homeschooled until starting Hogwarts late.
Magic is affected by the emotional state of the weilder.
Her father became depressed after her brother died, so he wouldn’t have had any drive to take her to get her wand or school things.
Maybe she was only picked up on later and was then invited a bit late. It’s hard for magic to flourish in a dreary home like what she would’ve had with her father especially after her brothers death.
Even Merope was believed to be a squib because her magic was stuffed by her home life. And only flourished when the source of her mental anguish was gone
It could be that her family must be struggling with money given the time period she resided. Maybe they couldn't afford to send her to Hogwarts given her father's mental state after her brother's passing as well.
And in her journals she mentioned the plague which might have something to do with her brother's passing
Theres no fee ti send a student to Hogwarts, you only need to pay for robes and books and some equipment needed (other equipment could be lent by the school.)
But just because you receive a letter it doesn’t make it mandatory to go. And if a parent or guardian says no, or takes no action at all, then you just don’t go. There’s no one to enforce it
But what if they couldn't afford the robes and books and equipment?
Also different time periods too
"And if a parent or guardian says no, or takes no action at all, then you just don't go. There's no one to enforce it." looks at Dursleys
There’s probably a means for the ministry to provide if it’s beyond the means, like they do for muggleborn students
Plus we’ve seen transfiguration turn a coat into school robes with MC
Especially as she had her robes as a student when she joins as a fifth year.
It could just be that she was never taken there by her father.
Before the Hogwarts Express students had to arrive by broom or Portkey or any other magical transportation with a parent.
I doubt her bear comatose father would do that
Haha
Hagrid only showed up because Harry is a rare exception due to how important he is.
Plus they already knew the Dursley’s were idiots
How do we know he's an exception, tho?
Because a representative from the school being sent along with a letter is normally only done for muggleborn students due to the culture shock and needing to explain to the muggle parents.
So I presume that happened with the Grangers
Yes. A representative from the school would have ollected her and explained to her parents
The ministry would have helped provide her things. Though some muggleborn money would have been converted into Galleons, Sickles and Knuts
I never became as fond of Ominis as I am of Sebastian, and I think a significant part of the reason why is the fact that the first time a non-Slytherin speaks to him face-to-face, is when he's saying that no one will be able to save them if they tell someone about his secret hideout. Like, even if he doesn't mean he'll cause them actual harm---and I don't know that he doesn't---and even if he's only talking about using his connections to get them expelled, that still seems over-the-top for a supposedly really nice guy....
ominis doesn’t speak to his family much.
nod
so his threat is innocuous..
Sure didn't sound innocuous. And just because he doesn't talk to his family much doesn't mean it is. And why is he even threatening them over something like that, anyway? I get that he doesn't want anyone else going there, but...
he’s just pessimistic.. his upbringing wasn’t the greatest as you’ve probably heard already. he’s deeply untrusting towards people he doesn’t know.
Because the Undercroft was a place for just him, Sebastian and Anne while she was still there. A place he trusted them with and where they oiled hang out together and practice spells together.
He’s more angry at Seb for just showing it to an absolute random. Some new student he barely knows. Ominis has a hard enough time trusting people and doesn’t seem to have friends outside of Seb and Anne which makes sense considering how his own family treats him and what they made him do.
He doesn’t know the MC and knows that Sebastian bareky knows them either and Seb is most likely looking for someone easy to manipulate into his schemes to try and find a urge for Anne, including exploring the Dark Arts which Ominis is staunchly against,
But did he really have to go off on said complete stranger?
He just caught them sneaking out of the one place in the school he can go to and get a bit of peace (being blind and having a sharp sense if hearing must get overwhelming in a place like Hogwarts), he doesn’t know if they’re going to tell the rest of the school and then he won’t have anywhere.
It was a bit of an overreaction, but the Undercroft has been his little sanctuary with the Sallows for 4 years and now this complete stranger knows about it.
It’s an invasion of privacy almost.
I finished the spictorium quest thingy and I just find it funny how Salazar Slytherin dungeon (that had a handbook passed down from him) is so easily accessible by lighting up a few torches 😭
I would’ve expected something more defensive in the lair like a monster or basilisk ngl
Not actually a basilisk but a monster of some sorrt
Well, there's...also the whole...Crucio thing.
And the gate puzzles
And the fact you need to know the right thing to say in Parseltongue right after the braziers thing.
The trio only got a hint after fixing that fresco, only then did Ominis hear Parseltongue telling him to speak to it,
One of the flaws in the hiding is i think Salazar was counting on only his descendants being able to find it via Parseltongue hearing and speaking due to its rarity. A mistake since while its rare, not all of them would be from his line either back in the day or as time goes on. Also he's counting on those who do find it and don't share his views to not use crucio on either themselves or others to get in, another mistake though both precautions do limit the amount who could find the entrance via the intended means to begin with. And the snake puzzles are not difficult really to figure out. Also i think he puts its entrance in a place too obvious. Like he should have put it somewhere less obvious imo.
I do wonder if one could just blast through the crucio door also. Also he wouldn't be able to foresee mundane methods of breaking through the rock either as would be possible down the line.
That’s true tbh
Still feel like the entrance to it was fairly easy and revealing
The entrance itself I mean
The puzzles inside were tricky
Salazar’s descendants are the only British Wizarding family with Parseltongue as an innate part of their heritage. It’s not a common ability (the only others known to be able to use it are some wizards in Africa)
And it’s not a commonly thought ability either due to its rarity and stigma as it’s strongly associated with dark wizards (like Herpo the Foul)
So figuring out you needed to speak Parseltongue would be practically impossible and then you’d also have to know Parseltongue to open the door.
Then the gate puzzles where getting it wring hurts you a lot and enough failures would result in death.
Then the Crucio door, which is impossible to open without another human to cast Crucio on and without that you’d be trapped in there with no way out as the gates lock behind you and you’d slowly starve to death (like Noctua)
I doubt you can just blast that door open, Salazar was a powerful wizard.
Open g the door can’t be impossible without another person can’t be impossible unless Salazar only put that in after he left or he had a family house elf . Cos otherwise he wouldn’t be able to get in himself.
I mean mundane methods like powerful drills could potentially get in given Ranrock intended to use them on the AM repository which is likely more durable than whatever magic is protecting the scriptorium.Though it would be funny if Ranrock couldn’t get in without that AM wand.
Irl? Maybe not but in terms of character writing, it makes sense. Being the type to keep people at arm's length, generally a character like this wouldn't be so welcoming of people overstepping certain boundaries. The place was supposed to be a secret after all. To hear your own best friend break your trust like this is bound to make someone angry.
So yell at Sebastian, not us.
I mean... It does make sense narratively. I thought that he was being super irrational too but in the context of writing, it does make sense.
Exactly! Imagine you told a very dear friend a secret and the promised to never tell anyone.
Then they meet a complete rando and tell them the secret. You find out from the person they told and that person either tries to lie or tries to excuse it and promise not to tell.
You don’t know this person, so their promise to keep it secret means nothing. If you’re your going to be irritated at them..
It’s also heavily implied that he has a go at Sebastian after when he heads into the Undercroft after stating how “Sebastian is going to get an earful about this”
wants to be a fly on the wall for that conversation
i love omi
His threat was uncalled for empty or not (MC can't know and we don't either), but iirc he did apologize for it later.
Bruh
I just did a side-quest from Sirona Ryan and got asked about Lodgok
I just watched him get killed earlier today 😭
;-;
I would kill myself and the entire world for him
alright then.
I recently had a conversation with Sebastian in my game. When my character mentioned Lodgok, the friendly goblin, he lost it.
I think they made a mistake in the dialogue
I’m taking the quiz from Sophronia Franklin, and one of her questions was “can polyjuice potion make you change species” I answered yes considering the fact that hermione was changed into a cat in the second movie, but for some reason she says the answer is false??
I thought he was going to hate me after that happened.
and that “you can only change age and race, not species” which doesn’t align with hermiones incident :0
Well, if you'll remember, she didn't completely change into a cat. She used cat hair, which caused her to partially take on cat features.
Yeah that’s true but wouldn’t that be evidence that you CAN inevitably change species if you used enough cat hair or something
I don't think so. I think it's evidence that the potion doesn't know what the hell is going on, and is freaking out. XD
No
The point of Hermione becoming a weird half human half cat thing is BECAUSE you can’t turn into another species.
The potion doesn’t work properly with non human DNA, so Hermione ended up as that cat thing and needed to go to the Hospital Wing for a bit to be treated and returned to normal.
Honestly, tho, human hair and cat hair look pretty different. Not sure how she got them mixed up in the first place.
So he doesn't? That's a relief.
Nah, he apologizes.
I know. I was so relieved too.
||Eventually, Sebastian gives you another apology after|| ||finding out that it wasn't a goblin who cursed Anne, but instead a fellow wizard. "It was never that simple."||
Hermione got it from a brush the girl used, could be that there was cat hair caught On the human hair and she missed it when she put the hair in her potion and the presence of cat hair borked the potion.
Possible.
Ah then that makes sense
Though that’s only if you don’t turn him in
If you do and you end up telling Ominis during the funeral service, he tells Seb when he next sees him and then informs you that Sebs hatred only grew for goblins and dark wizards
I’m doing the quest where Sebastian gives me ||imperio|| aghh finally
Tru. Which doesn't make sense to me.
Seb is angry and, in his eyes, he’s been betrayed by his friends and his sister and will be sent to Azkaban where he’ll spend the rest of his life.
Even knowing the truth, it doesn’t matter, he might as well hate everyone. Goblins technically started the whole thing with Ranrok gathering goblins to his cause which then drew Rookwood and his Ashwinders,
If goblins hadn’t been looking for ancient magic, then Rookwood wouldn’t have been there and Anne wouldn’t have been used,
At least if he’d been shown mercy and not turned in, he has a chance to reflect on the mistakes he made like being angry at the wrong people and have a chance to change his ways and views
You can’t really self improve when you know you’ve got a one way ticket to Azkaban because you were turned in by family and friends.
Ah. I suppose that makes sense.
Some seem to forget that using Unforgivables and being put on trial for it is a guaranteed one way ticket to a life sentence in Azkaban.
Seb isn’t from a wealthy Pureblood family with members on the Wizengamot and other Wizengamot members in their pockets, he won’t be let off with a couple of years and a slap on the wrist. He has no way to plead for amnesty. (Can’t turn in anyone else to be let off on a lesser charge like Karkaroff did by turning in other Death Eaters)
It doesn’t matter if you’re still a minor in the WW. You’re going to Azkaban for life, it doesn’t matter the circumstances that lead up to it, or the emotional toll you were under.
There’s no way of rehabilitation in Azkaban. You might not be killed, but it’s a death sentence nonetheless. Just one of the mind and soul as there’s no hope or joy. Just near endless suffering until your body gives up, however long that takes.
I absolutely remember that. ;-;
Who knew I could hate his uncle more than now img
He’s so insufferable 😫
He the worst.
😭 Just be glad that we have his storyline.
Also, Sebastian was probs counting the days until he could move out.
YES the unforgivable curses make the combat so much easier
...For that reason as well. I think being able to more easily deal with giant spiders is worth keeping him out of Azkaban by itself. 😂 /half-joking
Oop I didn’t reach that part yet
The spiders are so annoying
I hate when they run when they’re on fire
I love when they run when they're on fire.
Naw it makes me squirm as much as i hate them
I wish I was the one who killed him
Sameee
I'll flip you for it.
How about we all do it at the same time?
Fair.
How about one of us Crucio him and the other gets Imperio and then we just beat him up until he dies
But...the Imperio person wouldn't really get to contribute. :(
Nono it's so he doesn't tell anyone about us beating him up if he somehow lives through it
But...we wouldn't let him live through it...right?
And plus if we Imperio him,he wouldn't be able to escape our wrath
Tru. But we should both get to take turns Crucio'ing him after one of us Imperios.
And if he tries to get away we avada kedavra him I assume?
No, no, Petrificus Totalus, of course.
Yasss.
Yes,we lock him up in a basement so he can't escape
soooo what's going on in here? 😳
Uncle Solomon
Must suffer.
Guilty until proven innocent....AMIRIGHT? 🤣 😶🌫️

He'll never be proven innocent
Q-Q Ominis dies so young, you guys... He’s no older than 50.
Not necessarily! He could have just disowned himself and changed his name
So technically Marvolo and his kids are still 'the last of the Gaunts' because Ominis isn't a Gaunt anymore
King I think you might wanna reflect on that if you haven't already
There’s nothing wrong with being female. 😭🫂
lol, I suppose that would work. 😌
I don't like that time of the month
This is my personal HC
Or more specifically that his family exvuse him and erase him from the family tree (like how Sirius’ parents did to him after he ran away)
So he goes and changes his name and lives a long life without the Gaunts even being a thought in his mind
That'd be the best case scenario
Neither do I, but I love the heightened emotional recognition, immune system, and empathy, just to name a few.
Ah well, guess we'll have to deal with it
“Sorcifucalky”?
“Specifically”
Autocorrect either ignores me entirely or corrects the wrong thing.
I’m severely sight impaired and miss spelling errors 90% of the time lol
Sorry, I forgot. 🫂