‼-story-spoilers-‼

[spice quiver]

listen, its like with undertale. once you finish the path if peace then morals are useless. violence is all thats left

eh im not gonna have any morals when it comes to video game characters

besides being evil is more fun than playing hero all day

[gloomy jewel]

In this scene he acted as an enemy, so surely all of us would have killed him

[spice quiver]

exactly

[remote nymph]

Tbf I don't think condemning a 15 year old to spend the rest of his life being tormented by Dementors is the appropriate response either. Maybe if the WW had some juvenile correctional facility, maybe. But until that's confirmed, I won't be turning him in.

[tawdry karma]

Hero and Villian are not absolutes - What I found most unnerving about Sebastian's decent into darkness was that HE believed he was doing what was right the whole time.

[timid zodiac]

i think the ministry's response to what seb did would probably be to take away his wand and kick him out of school like they did with hagrid. then again hagrid never actually did anything wrong and he didnt use unforgivables either he got framed for the crimes commited by a beast and a different beast as well.

[tawdry karma]

Surely, the Ministry of Magic has more tools in its kit than just sending people to Azkaban. What about the Obliviate spell?

[deep cypress]

If you’re found guilty of committing Unforgivale Curses it’s a one way ticket to Azkaban

The Expulsion and taking of his wand already happened by the time he was brought to trial.

[remote nymph]

I'm fairly sure the use of an Unforgivable Curse is an automatic lifetime sentence in Azkaban

[deep cypress]

What would that accomplish? All you’d do is make them forget about the crime they committed. That’s not exactly a punishment for breaking the law

[tawdry karma]

You could make them forget a lot more than that. Which for a teenager would be close to giving someone a clean slate and a second chance.

[lavish gazelle]

I always assumed the reason Hagrid wasn’t sent to Azkaban was because he was only 13 at the time. With Sebastian not being of-age, the penalty may not be as steep. But again, Hagrid didn’t use an unforgivable, so we don’t really have any precedent for how the ministry would treat this case, at least not from any lore I’m familiar with

[deep cypress]

But then their victims, or their surviving family don’t get justice or closure.

You’d essentially be asking them to just forgive and forget because the perpetrator won’t even remember what they did or the harm they caused.

That would just leave the perpetrator open to commiting similar acts again in the future. Because there would be no possible regret or guilt at their actions as they wouldn’t remember what they did

[remote nymph]

Forget what? Keep in mind Seb went through a whole sequence of events no 15 year old should ever have to. Watching his parents die, having his sister cursed and all but living on borrowed time and then having to live with a borderline abusive Uncle. It's much more than just making him forget the act of killing his Uncle as opposed to all the events that led to that.

[deep cypress]

He didn’t use an Unforgivable curse and Riddle didn’t frame him as the murderer itself, but the Acromantula he was raising as being the culprit.

He claimed Hagrid was the indirect cause and as the spider was gone, Hagrid was the sole focus on who to punish.

He was expelled, his wand destroyed and was forbidden by the Ministry from using Magic again.

Ahh meant to reply to @lavish gazelle

[tawdry karma]

Not necessarily. What you would be doing is not wasting a life. If magic requires intent, then letting someone start over when they are young gives them a chance to learn and follow a different path. I dunno, throwing someone in Azkaban for life just seems a waste. Surely they could do better.

[deep cypress]

You’re just removing any consequences for their actions that way.

And leaving the door open to them doing it again.

[tawdry karma]

Loosing your identity is hardly a "no consequence" but, sadly, you are right.

[knotty pasture]

typical Slytherin

[jagged latch]

I’m stuck on In The Shadow of the Relic Defend yourself against Solomon, any Help or tips ?
Damage a Frozen Enemy - Duellling Feats
His wand is sticking out of ground

[deep cypress]

You don’t need to do the dunking feats, just beat Solomon

[jagged latch]

@deep cypress He not showing up just his wand in the ground

[deep cypress]

Try reloading an earlier save?

Are you playing on PC? Mods might have broken it

[jagged latch]

Yes on PC but I don’t play with Mods

[deep cypress]

Reloading an earlier save is your only option

Something has clearly gone wrong

[lean void]

Just took down Rookwood again. Wish that happened more slowly so I could savour it.
Incidentally the fourth Keeper used AK on Isidora. So even they are not immune to using Dark Magic

[deep cypress]

The Unforgivables weren’t illegal back then.

You could just use them with little to no consequences

[jagged latch]

@deep cypress I have went back an started over twice an it still glitches

[deep cypress]

Maybe something in your game files is bugged?

Try uninstalling and then reinstalling the game?

[jagged latch]

I’m just skipping it for now

[mental grove]

try using AOE moves near his wand like incendio if you have its mastery or bomb barrels

[lean void]

I didn’t know that. Thanks

[zinc coyote]

The justice system in the wizarding world isn't scaled like the Muggle justice system. There is no "oh he's a kid, he'll get some time, maybe he'll get a wand back someday, maybe he'll stop getting his life sucked out of him in Azkaban eventually." It's all or nothing. Condemning a child for a horrible mistake when he's learned his lesson and feels regret, is just cruelty at that point and leaves you no better than what he did in the first place. And he IS facing consequences. Ominis and Anne likely won't ever trust him again. He's lost his two most valued friends, those he grew up with. His TWIN. And now he's going to have to watch her die in pain because she won't listen to anything he has to say again, even if it might be a valid cure. That's a huge loss.

[lean void]

Ominis shopped him to Black. Very sad.

[deep cypress]

But the thing about the Unforgivales is that they need genuine intent.

They’re also impossible to block. And in the case of AK, no way to survive it.

You can regret using AK. But you still 100% intended to take a life when you cast it successfully. It’s not like Muggle weapons, where at least there’s a chance that medical help could fix it.

Extended experience of crucio can make you lose your mind with no way to recover it.

Imperio is very hard to resist. And if the caster is stronger than you magically, you have no way out. You take away someone’s autonomy entirely.

Avada Kedavra takes a life. No way to recover. Just instant death

[zinc coyote]

We all have felt such intense rage at something or someone at some point in our lives where we thought, "I could just KILL..." The difference between us and the wizarding world is in a split second, you can make that a reality. You can make a mistake in an emotional state of mind. Desperation drives people to do things that they can later regret. Yes, he meant it. In THAT moment. He never truly wanted or meant to kill his uncle. On top of having to deal with a disagreeable uncle, he's an emotional, hormonal teenager who is trying desperately to find a way to save his cursed twin sister. His uncle has constantly verbally abused him for years. Anger and frustration have built for years. Abuse will do that to people, and then they snap in a moment. They don't mean to, and then they truly regret it. We can't just say Seb is at fault at deserves a life in wizard prison with dementors. There's so much more to it than that, especially considering nothing about their justice system is fair.

[remote nymph]

Not to mention kicking an underage child out of their home is a crime itself.

[zinc coyote]

True, and then moving away so that said child can't find them anymore.

[deep cypress]

Might not have been in the late 1800s though

[remote nymph]

Oh I'm almost certain it wasn't - but from a moral standpoint, it's fair to view that the Uncle did as basically criminal.

Tbh I'd place kicking a child out of their home as one of the worst things a person can do.

[deep cypress]

Oh yah, morally it’s messed up.

Tbf I’m on the side of not turning Seb in. I believe in second chances after making mistakes.

I just like playing devils advocate

[zinc coyote]

Ppppfffft. Ravenclaws. lmao 🤣

Can't you see this is sewious!

[deep cypress]

I can’t help it

I’m a sucker for a good debate

Debates and lore, my biggest vices

😂

[zinc coyote]

Meanwhile my Hufflepuff self just like "COME FOR SEB SEE WHAT HAPPENS" lmao

AVADA KADAV--

[remote nymph]

Oh I'd agree on not turning him in, but playing devil's advocate is fun.

[deep cypress]

My Ravenclaw lass believes that Seb didn’t realise the risks despite his family friends (herself included) despite the warnings and it took that last, hard lesson for it to finally sink in.

So she’ll give him a second chance, to spare him, Ominis and Anne the pain of further loss.

but if he messes up one more time she’s done. And she’ll leave and take Ominis with her lol

[deep cypress]

Right???

[zinc coyote]

Seb is baby and he is under my protection lmao

[lean void]

My Ravenclaw agreed with Ominis turning him in

[deep cypress]

Seb and Ominis

Both precious babies.

Must protecc at all costs.

[deep cypress]

See my biggest aversion to that is just how devastated Ominis is when you talk to him again in the Undercroft.

Like I don’t think Ominis has any other friends aside from you and Seb and Anne. I think a lot are intimidated by him being a Gaunt,

But sad Ominis breaks my heart

[zinc coyote]

She protecc, she attacc, but most importantly she hold Seb bacc

[dire lichen]

Ok, i didnt expect the 3rd trial to be in black/white. That was kinda cool.

[turbid zinc]

Yeah 3rd and the last one are completely different to the first two

[forest onyx]

My Gryffindor chose to believe Seb wasn’t himself after reading Slytherins journals and obtaining the relic. He was being controlled by the dark forces. I chose to forgive him and not turn him in.

[mint musk]

the forgetting memories thing reminds me ironically of isadora's plotline in the game 😂

taking memories, taking emotions

[vital gate]

I want to see someone get a brain fart, cast accio kadavra, and end up summoning the nearest corpse to their location

[lean void]

I love the third trial

[outer reef]

so its different than the previous 2?

[lean void]

Yes

[outer reef]

nice 🤔

[hidden night]

Bro, I know turning Sebastian in was the right choice, but I feel so freaking bad. That dude covered for me, hung out with me, showed me his secret hangout club.

But his goal was to heal his sister and he ended up raising the dead 🤦‍♂️ then he killed his uncle. Wtf 😆

[vestal tapir]

i couldnt do it even tho ik it was the right thing 😭 he vouched for me so it was only fair to return the favor

[outer reef]

does that decision impact the game in any way?

[distant lintel]

If you turn him in, you don't get access to learning curses if you haven't learned any. It's also just...not super satisfying since he gets arrested off screen and Ominis is just sad now.

[outer reef]

oh okay, ty.

[lean void]

A situation familiar to so many of us 😀

[midnight anchor]

is it mentioned by prof weasley later? I mean, prof weasley mentioned we helping dragon and golden fidget at the end of the game. But she didn't mention it because it's kept secret right. So what if we turn in sebastian?

[distant lintel]

I don't think she remarks on it. All that happens is you turn him in and he's gone.

I think the game was really anticipating people were gonna save him.

[midnight anchor]

too bad. She should comfort us like "i'm sorry your friendship with sebastian turn out this way or something like that", you know, since they mentioned sebastian is remarkable student

[knotty pasture]

I don't think so

[proud oxide]

A bit late to the party but i would also like to bring this up about Sebaistian's uncle. Yes, what Sebastian was doing was incredibly wrong and he did throw the first spell in the fight. However in game, his uncle tries to SET YOU BOTH ON FIRE. it is a wild escalation that includes you. when i was playing, i was for sure thinking that the uncle was trying to not just incapacitate, but potentially kill us.

[toxic garden]

I think she does, but I'm still unsure how she decides who to compliment you on your friendship with... Got Poppy, during my first run, trying to 100% it this time, so waiting to see about that (and managed to soft lock biscuit)

[vagrant warren]

That’s a good argument. Sebastian is a child after all, the uncle was an adult and as such was supposed to show maturity and levelheadedness. A swift Expelliarmus, disarming Seb and the player would have been enough.

[proud oxide]

I'm just imagining the alternative, where a grown man killed (or seriously injured) two children in a crypt, one of which was an innocent party as your character was trying to put a stop to everything. It was unhinged. Which I think may have been another potential reason why the killing curse was used. I don't want to go too far and defend Sebastian, but if an abusive family member escalated a situation to physical violence for not just you, but your ride or die friend... I can't blame him.

[midnight anchor]

his uncle maybe very angry at his limit dealing with hotheaded nephew, while ensuring safety for his cursed niece. especially since he was ex Auror and he already warn sebastian many times to not deal with dark arts

[vagrant warren]

Still not a reason to try to put your nephew and his friend on fire though

[vagrant warren]

Yeah I totally see that. And of course, Sebastian is definitely wrong in killing his uncle, that was completely unwarranted. The uncle wasn’t an angel either. It was a fudged up family in the end

[midnight anchor]

still wrong, but he's very upset after the last goblin attack in feldcroft when sebastian cast imperio in front of Anne, If I were his uncle, maybe i will try to put sebastian on fire too

[vagrant warren]

😬

[midnight anchor]

dark art is fine until it's too late

[vagrant warren]

I would have simply Expelly and accio’d their wands

No need to harm anyone, and this goes for both seb and his uncle

And I am positive Seb wouldn’t have gone too far with the Dark Arts if his uncle actually helped him find a cure for Anne instead of being a jerk about it

[proud oxide]

its cool how neither party is entirely in the right. there are both arguments and potential outcomes. I completely agree that if Sebastian kept going, it would have created something awful. However the uncle in his own way was turning into a monster too, just a non-magical version.

[vagrant warren]

Exactly

[midnight anchor]

maybe based on his uncle experience as an Auror, sebastian dealing with dark arts was already at the point of no return. So he take his action as an Auror, not his uncle anymore, imo

[vagrant warren]

Maybe

[proud oxide]

true, but that neglects to acknowledge you in the situation. you were not on that road and if Ominis had come back with a teacher and explained everything, it would come to light that he could have potentially harmed or killed an innocent person because he decided to preform his own whacked out version of the law.

[midnight anchor]

I wonder why ominis didn't just sent owl to the teacher 😅

either way, sebastian storyline has amazing plot twist. We start to love sebastian at the beginning and hate ominis for being a jerk, but at the end, ominis is the good guy 😂

"dark arts is fine until it's too late"

[proud oxide]

Poor Ominis. H's probably thinking he is the only sane one in a group of idiots. He's the true MVP

[vagrant warren]

I have always felt sympathy towards Seb personally, even when he was going further with the dark arts. I lost my mother to cancer after 7 years of fighting, and we like Seb tried absolutely everything. From shamanism to really expensive modern biological treatments. When someone you love so dearly suffers and you see them suffer, you really do everything is in your hands to try to make their situation better.

The only moment I started to worry about Seb was when he was controlling those Inferi… like no, Seb, that won’t help Anne at all lol

So I actually think that person who wrote here before, that Seb was likely being manipulated by dark energies, that might be true

[spring saddle]

Has anyone had issues with the Elder wand and not having any spells in the hallows part

its making fighting the troll and all the death npcs a real pain in the ass

[midnight anchor]

same effect as horcrux right? i thought so too. Sebastian become really jerk after he has the relics

[vagrant warren]

Yeah

[proud oxide]

I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I think it is a very relatable type of pain that eats you away inside.

[proud oxide]

For me, I was getting suspicious when he was starting to use you as a mouthpiece to persuade everyone to do what he wanted. It is a manipulative move that i have had unfortunate experience with in real life. It can often be a thin line between charisma and manipulation.

[vagrant warren]

You’re right, he did do that to us

I’m sorry you had to go through that, that doesn’t sound pleasant at all. That’s the problem with toxic people, they seem a totally different person.

[proud oxide]

Don't get me wrong, people who have that trait aren't bad people. Its a different way they see the world stemming from insecurity. But it depends what they try to get you to do that is the important thing.

So cool to have characters with both good and bad traits so clearly defined. I'm nerding out a bit at it

[hidden night]

If you do turn him in, though, that's some good fuel for a dlc story or expansion where he comes back real pissed off at you and goes even deeper into the dark arts to get back at you and save his sister.

[wind sun]

The problem is he acts like gryffindor, no plan just hurry mess. I don't understand why after he and mc saw Isidora's memory where ancient magic can be used to take the pain away he decides to remove the curse with... Infernal control relic? What?

[burnt raven]

its not like a gryffindor because he doesn't seek glory, its love for his sister. slytherin traits would probably be ambition because he knows spells he shouldn't. everything else he's just doing for his sister. and he's not exactly thinking logically

[deep cypress]

Different kind of pain tbf

Isadora took away natural emotional pain.

Anne suffers from physical pain caused by a dark curse

[wind sun]

I don't remember famous gryffindor trio were looking for the glory

And the moment he and mc were in goblins mines he just run into big pool of enemies without any plan, and after be like:
mc:" we may be killed tf are you doing?"
Seb:" but we were not."
This moment I just wanted to kill him on that spot. I'm in invisibility + curse build dude

[wind sun]

But in memories cutscene he ask mc to learn how to remove pain like isidora did, and do it for Ann if mc doesn't want to help him exactly

Devs probably wrote wrong lines in this entire scenario I don't know

[deep cypress]

Yeah because Seb only saw that one memory.

He doesn’t fully get that it’s only emotional pain and as you find out later, can leave the victim an emotionless husk

[wind sun]

It was just super weird like: u go learn painkiller stuff we'll cure Ann. A few moments later: infernal relic fun! Painkillers? Nah why

[burnt raven]

they always broke rules and took it upon themselves to save the world when no one asked them to, right from the beginning when they weren't even needed, they naturally like to be good and be brave because justice or whatever but also they like that spotlight aka glory

[wind sun]

Feels like at least one scene missing

[burnt raven]

i don't recall exactly but didn't you tell seb the ancient magic can't help his sister? i feel like i heard that short statement

[wind sun]

I'll rewatch it later somewhere i remember mc told that Isidora weren't able to return on portrait because it's burned and smth

[burnt raven]

anyone have theories on hogwarts legacy 2 story?

i imagine seb will do some jail time regardless of if you turned him in or not, if not he will get caught somehow but return anyway. as for the ancient magic i dont think it will be a main plot point anymore and maybe you will get additional abilities with it either through study and practice or because you absorbed it. I think they will find a way to balance and make it plausable regardless of the choices you made

[lean void]

What level do I get talents please?

[smoky dagger]

You have to reach a certain part in the story, but you'll still accumulate points before you unlock it.

So if you reach that part and you're level 16 you'll get 10+ points to spend

[lean void]

Thanks 🙏
I am guessing the voice actor for Sir Nicholas is the same as for the caretaker Moon?

[jovial pumice]

Nah Sebs safe if you didn’t turn him in. His sister cares about him, as does the year 5 and Ominis.

Those are the only ones that could say something. I just wish they went into a bit more detail involving what the sister is doing now that the uncle is gone.

[burnt raven]

could be a situation where someone else would be in trouble for the uncle being gone and charged with murder and seb stepping up and turning himself in

[jovial pumice]

Nah, wouldn’t let him lol

@deep cypress I loved the Seb, year nine and Ominis trio. Very diverse set of characters that brought out various emotions. FOR ONCE in modern entertainment we had a diverse character. Most are just so static.

[deep cypress]

It would be easy to over up in a way that would be hard to disprove though

There are dark wizards at Rookwood castle which is right by Feldcroft..

Could just say one of them killed Solomon.

[jovial pumice]

Nice and easy lol. Turning him in is just wrong. He took the fall for you in the library AND stayed true to his word in keeping your secrets hidden from everyone

[deep cypress]

Year nine? Sorry just confused about that

[jovial pumice]

Year five sorry. The main character

[deep cypress]

Reasons for not turning Seb in:

1. everyone deserves a second chance and it gives him a means to try and redeem himself or at least slowly earn back the trust of his friends

2. Devastated Ominis breaks my heart and I can’t do that to him I’m sorry

[jovial pumice]

And his sister. And as you said, Ominis doesn’t deserve that.

[deep cypress]

Ah I see!

And I agree! They’re my new main trio too lol. There’s more banter between them (like the first trip to the catacombs with Seb is genuinely funny) and there’s just more depth and nuance to them imo.

And their story is intertwined and genuinely makes you question if what you’re trying to do is right or where the line is.

And it culminates in a shocking finale and a choir with real consequences for one of the trio..

You don’t really get that with Poppy and Natsai. It’s very straightforward and the finale to their arcs when you speak to them is just “I was wrong about only having animals as friends/being to blame for something that wasn’t my choice. I’m glad we’re friends”

[deep cypress]

Yeah and Anne too.

Like Anne claimed, living with the guilt is enough of a punishment.

[jovial pumice]

Couldn’t have said it better myself with that story you have there lol

[jagged latch]

How do I find out what Daedalian Key I’m missing I have 15/16 house keys

[jovial pumice]

Oh sorry. I must remain quiet.
Hello.
WE ARE in the middle of a FANDOM CONVERSATION!!

Also I’m not quite sure

[jovial pumice]

When in game character are more in depth than most irl people. The magic in this game doesn’t come from the wands, for me, it was that there’s genuine people and not robots. Doesn’t exist in todays society lol

Let’s face it, if someone’s new to a school, you think they’re gonna invite you to their club or something day one and actually be kind? Hell no!

[deep cypress]

I just feel like because they’re all more involved with each other the Trio are just more interesting and the friendship feels more genuine and earned.

I’d never spoken to poppy once before but because I told a mean bully that he wasn’t funny, she suddenly entrusts me with meeting her Hippogriff friend?

Or Natty who only had me kick her butt in class and suddenly she’s like “there’s this bad dude and I want to stop him. You seem trustworthy, random stranger!”

[jovial pumice]

I’d of liked if you went after Victor Rookwood with Sebastian and Ominis

They kinda just ended Rookwood a bit too quickly since he had a lot of answers. Probably wouldn’t/couldn’t undue the curse but I think that plot deserved more attention than it got

My main issue is lack of closure. I want to see Anne cured (or succumb to the curse as she eventually will) like we needed some closure on that story unless they plan on adding dlc or a second game

[deep cypress]

Yeah… maybe if during the confrontation with Rookwood you didn’t just kill him and he Apparated to escape, you sell Seb and Ominis (assuming you didn’t snitch like a traitor) and then the three of you hunt him down in a big battle against him.

[jovial pumice]

Sebastian deserved the kill if he had to go down

[lean void]

I have gone through that story twice so far. One turned him in and the other did not. The first of those felt really bad for doing so.
It’s true he could probably have stopped the goblin with other spells and he didn’t need to kill Solomon, but he had been a loyal friend throughout the story, with the library and partner on the duelling. Felt bad to turn him in even if I disagreed with what he did

[deep cypress]

Yeah exactly!

But then beause he’s trying to redeem himself and not give in to using the Dark Arts again, (or depending on your choices, whether you encouraged him or not) he either incapacities Rookwood and lhas the authorities take him, or he gives in and uses dark magic again, fully ruining any chance at redemption with his friends and sister and then is turned in

[jovial pumice]

I agree with it. I didn’t find him TOO reckless YET. I feel that if he could cure his sister, he’d of stopped. But his uncle kept making it seem as if it was his fault for her suffering. Worst thing was when he said “look at what you did!” When she starts experiencing pain. So Seb blamed himself and Solomon was unknowingly enabling him

Plus he’d destroy any of the good remedies he’d bring Anne so I mean like… Dark Arts were his only hope. Like imagine if it’s someone you love, parent, friend, spouse, brother or sister and so on. You’d probably do the same if you cared a lot for them

Then you’ve got someone who continuously destroys everything you bring your sick loved one. I’d almost believe he WANTED her to stay that way.

[lean void]

The last straw was uncle destroying the relic, although the inferius didn’t help. That relic was last chance to cure Anne.
I wonder if year 5 could have cured Anne with ancient magic?

[jovial pumice]

So after years of enduring it, Sebastian had enough. Not to mention Solomon was willing to kill your character and his nephew to put a stop to it

[jovial pumice]

But remember, like when the other one took her fathers sadness away, it left him an empty shell with nothing

[deep cypress]

Yeah they’d supposedly explored every avenue available to them with no success and Seb felt that the only glimmer of hope would be in the same magic that caused it.

He didn’t feel like Solomon was doing his job as theor guardian (and probably lowkey blamed him for not protecting Anne when she got cursed)

[jovial pumice]

Solomon failed and didn’t even try to help her. If this were real, I wouldn’t have stopped either if I had magical abilities that could potentially cure someone I cared for.

[deep cypress]

Plus she took away emotional suffering.

Not physical pain caused by a curse.

They’re two very different things

[lean void]

Yes, I wondered that. Would it have left her a shell?

[jovial pumice]

It’s one thing if Solomon allowed Sebastian to help Anne and then stopped him when he started raising Inferi. But literally EVERYTHING he brought her, even small herbal remedies, he’d immediately destroy. I think he had that thing where he enjoyed taking care of a sickly person I forgot what it’s called

[deep cypress]

Yeah Solomon didn’t try hard enough to stop a 13 year old witch from wandering up to the ruined castle early to check out mysterious fires.

At a time when he should have known that there were dangers around. And in the middle of the night no less if I’m remembering right

[jovial pumice]

He always made it seem like Anne should fear Sebastian, yet it was Solomon who ALSO used the dark arts and was shamed for it a while back. There was far more to it than Solomon not wanting Seb to turn to dark arts.

[deep cypress]

I think he was given permission to use them during his time as an Auror, which he did and then regretted it immensely and quit shortly after.

But that’s just the little Seb had gleaned because despite his abject anger about Dark Arts, Solomon never just sat down and fully explained why to him.

Ominis at least had shared why he was adverse to Dark Arts having experienced being both on the giving and receiving end of Crucio as a fairly young age (I’m guessing before 11?)

[burnt raven]

yeah, but if sequel has seb and they want to keep choices in part 1 canon, then its a way to merge all playthroughs if you turned him in or not, that can be used as an excuse to have him free but also serve some time at first

[burnt raven]

the uncle implies that he had multiple conversations with seb and seb refuses to listen

[jovial pumice]

But even when Seb would bring natural remedies to help Anne or try to cure her, he’d even destroy that! No reason to do that. If he (Solomon) really cared about Anne, he’d try everything.

[burnt raven]

uncle doesn't want to give anne false hope and doesn't want attention to what he thinks is hopeless, he just wants good times with anne before she passes

[deep cypress]

I think by conversations it was more like

Solomon: don’t use dark magic it’s bad!!

Seb: but we’ve tried everything else! This might be the only solution

Solomon: I’m the adult you’ll do as I say!

[jovial pumice]

There were no good times. And you never give up on someone if you truly love them. I mean they’re magical. As Seb said, they haven’t tried everything

[burnt raven]

imagine if someone had terminal cancer and you keep coming every visit with some random stuff to try to save them, that would be depressing

[burnt raven]

I agree with seb, but I think that is the uncles reasoning, he's not just angry for no reason

[jovial pumice]

I’d rather give someone hope rather than let them die a slow and miserable death. (This is if I had magic mind you)

[deep cypress]

He doesn’t want to get her hopes up because each time that hope is crushed, it will only cause her more pain.

Emotional stress causes her more physical pain and he feels that any attempts that don’t work will just cause her more unnecessary suffering

[burnt raven]

yes

[jovial pumice]

Plus it shows that Anne’s brother loves her and doesn’t want to give up on her and never will. If more people irl had these qualities, perhaps the world would be in a better place. As people, we’re quick to give up on others unless it seems feasible or accommodates us in some way

[burnt raven]

i agree seb should never give up but Im just explaining that the uncle had some logic to why he's angry

[jovial pumice]

That’s just fact unfortunately. There’s more Solomons than Sebs that’s for sure

[burnt raven]

again that doesn't really make sense, you really expect to find a cure for cancer irl if someone you loved had cancer? you really gonna keep bringing it up all the time?

[jovial pumice]

No, metaphorically speaking irl. Whether it’s someone going through a bad time or whatever it is. But as far as in this “magical world” there is always possibility in helping someone. So if I had magical capabilities, I’d surely try everything

[burnt raven]

fair, I would also try everything I don't think seb did anything wrong in that aspect of always trying to find a way

but i think i would do it more quietly and not bring it to anne unless necessary

[jovial pumice]

My point is, people are quick to give up on others unless it’s easy

[burnt raven]

what people? irl there is no magic

if you go to multiple doctors and they all say you're dead, what else can you do

[jovial pumice]

Not as far as debilitating illnesses are concerned…

[burnt raven]

then what?

can you give an example?

because in relation to anne, irl it would have to be someone on their death bed

[jovial pumice]

So I’m making a comparison to Sebs characteristics in game and applying them to an irl scenario that seems feasible to compare rather than a “curse” which obviously isn’t fact

[burnt raven]

yeah but what irl example should a person do that they don't?

[jovial pumice]

Oh so many things if you just look at the world around you

[burnt raven]

so many just give 1 example

[jovial pumice]

In fact the news frequently makes that clear lol

[burnt raven]

thats mental health, what some may call caring can actually be enabling, unless you are educated about it its hard to help

she needed professional help obviously

professional help can be talking, not medication

but random friends alone can't help with those severe cases

imma just say if anne wasn't cursed but instead just really sad i would have ak her instantly

[jovial pumice]

I wasn’t trying to get philosophical, I was just comparing characteristics as to why Seb was a good character and that we needed some more people like that in the real world

[burnt raven]

irl if that person had someone like seb to always be there it wouldn't change much, robin williaming yourself is a mental illness that needs professional help, there will always be something to make you depressed, if you dont have the ability to move on you need professional help

[knotty pasture]

your comparisons make no sense to me

[burnt raven]

ditto

[jovial pumice]

Ugh I was trying to avoid a story.

[burnt raven]

yo like if someone needs a friend, yeah seb is an amazing friend, but if someone needs professional help, seb can't help

[jovial pumice]

But people who are alone or beaten in school don’t need professional help

[burnt raven]

if you robin william yourself obviously you needed help

[wind sun]

But mostly it depends on moral principles of the wizarding world, not sure there's much difference between muggles and wizzards in this universe. Ofc it's a RPG and theory but in fact person shouldn't have the second chance after murder on purpose 🤔 Imagine a murderer were catched and police: well that's happy hour you won the 2 nd chance

[knotty pasture]

I mean a lot that you "know" is Sebs perspective, the uncle only has a short talk with you. But you expect Seb, who is a proven liar to tell you the truth without any bias, while he very much is.

[jovial pumice]

But Robin Williams took his life for an entirely different reason than this girl

[burnt raven]

all forms of sh are mental illness

[jovial pumice]

Sh?

[burnt raven]

elf arm

[knotty pasture]

elf arm

[jovial pumice]

I think this has gotten a little too philosophical. I disagree, however, that’s why there’s perspectives and why some cases end differently than others

[knotty pasture]

and Anne isn't bullied in school, so your point is... I don't even know what your point is

[burnt raven]

seb was wrong to kill his uncle, but i admire his love for his sister, uncle was rude, but i think its because he is tired of having convos with seb who doesn't listen, convos we dont hear and probably took place many times before the game

bottom line, seb my homie for LIFE I'm not turning him in even if he was wrong

[knotty pasture]

this.

[burnt raven]

thanks for the convo, its okay to disagree

[knotty pasture]

I did, as imo it's the only reasonable thing to do, but that's why we're in different houses

[burnt raven]

what good will it do to have sebs entire life ruined, at least if he's free he has a chance to redeem himself, he will learn his lesson because anne is done with him

[jovial pumice]

Felicia. Sebastian has characteristics OUTSIDE of just helping Anne with her curse. Take the curse out of it, he has a specific personality which includes, chief among them, care and unwillingness to give up.

So what I was saying is that if people exhibited these traits a bit more. The world would be a better place.

It was just a quick statement I didn’t expect to turn into a debate lol. But I don’t mind it I like a good debate but I didn’t want to get too in depth over a fictional character

[knotty pasture]

what I also posted some days ago: his obsession is understandable, his means are not, he's a completely unstable loose cannon, and having him free with all his rage on goblins and what he might think of as "dark" wizards, in addition to him just using unforgivables when he likes to, is just endangering everyone else

[jovial pumice]

I mean tbh he did think a goblin cursed his sister and as far as his means, he tried doing the “right thing” when he brought her a herbal remedy and that was immediately destroyed.

[knotty pasture]

he's using unforgivables and doesn't even notice he is one of those dark wizards he should hate

[jovial pumice]

Don’t call them unforgivable when “forgivable” includes lighting people on fire and watching them die a slow death lol

[knotty pasture]

and when he learned that goblins weren't responsible he still hated them, but now for no reason

[jovial pumice]

He showed regret for me?

[burnt raven]

i think he will realize this as he thinks of his uncles death at his own hands and his sister alone and himself without his sister

[deep cypress]

Or

Levioso + Depulso off a sheer drop

Or turning them into an explosive barrel and throwing them at their comrades

[jovial pumice]

Exactly

[burnt raven]

and i dont think his uncle would want his nephew to go to jail, he purposely didn't tell about seb using unforgivable spells and went to stop seb personally to avoid seb getting into official trouble

[jovial pumice]

Also to not stain his name further I believe

Ominis mentions this I believe

[deep cypress]

Another thing to remember is if he’s not turned in, he has hope to redeem himself to Anne, Ominis and you. Hope that he can be better.

If he was sent to Azkaban, he’ll have no hope at all. The Dementors will destroy him emotionally and mentally

[jovial pumice]

If dark arts is instantly killing someone instead of burning them to death or exploding them on to another person, then I’m a dark wizard full on lol

[burnt raven]

yes exactly

[jovial pumice]

You might as well kill him if he gets sent to Azkaban

[burnt raven]

oh fr? I missed that part, I thought the uncle genuinely cared about seb

[jovial pumice]

Nooooo. One of my dialogue options included me saying “what if Solomon turns us in?” And Ominis was like “he’d never. He already had trouble with the ministry of magic.”

[burnt raven]

i recall something like that too but i thought he said he wouldn't turn us in because he actually cared

[jovial pumice]

If he cared about Sebastian he wouldn’t have tried to literally kill him in the catacombs

[burnt raven]

he didnt

[jovial pumice]

And me! Don’t forget about me!

[deep cypress]

Probably for bouncing after using Unforgivables as an Auror. With permission from said ministry. I’d say it didn’t end on the best terms

[burnt raven]

if he wanted to kill seb he would of ak him

[jovial pumice]

Um… Solomon used “Levioso” on me while I was fighting Inferi and the Inferi started clawing at me

[burnt raven]

sounds like inferi assaulted you not solomon

[jovial pumice]

Well if I’m being chased by zombies and someone shuts the door on me, leaving me with the zombies, that’s basically killing me

Not to mention he also depulso’d Seb into a group of them… A bit sus for me

ALSO he destroyed the relic, hence turning the Inferi against Seb and your character. For someone who always yelled at Seb for not knowing what he’s doing, it seems Solomon didn’t know much either and was equally impulsive which could have resulted in me getting clawed to death.

[remote nymph]

I'd argue condemning a child to a life of being tormenting by Dementors isn't really a reasonable thing to do.

[burnt raven]

these are interesting points i'd have to replay and pay attention to solomons dialogue, i always got the impression he was just annoyed with seb but was a loving and caring man

[remote nymph]

Of he is absolutely abusive. Not to mention that kicking a child out of their home is a criminal offence.

[jovial pumice]

If loving and caring means getting clawed to death by Inferi, I’m right there with you!

[jovial pumice]

Seb is 16-17 and in the UK I believe you’re of age

[remote nymph]

He's 15 and in the WW you are still a child. You come of age at 17.

[jovial pumice]

Not to mention this is the 1890s

[remote nymph]

He is still classified as a child in the 1890s

[burnt raven]

i think its more for annes sake than anything else, like it sucks but for anne its the best thing to do

[jovial pumice]

Yea but it was a lot different then

[deep cypress]

Sebastian: “You were supposed to protect us!”

Solomon: “I am protecting you, foolish boy!”

And this one

MC: “Mr Sallow! Stop!”

Solomon: “How dare you?! You’re no friend to my nephew!”

[remote nymph]

To sentence her only living family and twin to a life time of torment? You sure about that?

[burnt raven]

fr he cared

[jovial pumice]

Yea, Hitler also said he was protecting Germany lol

[remote nymph]

What's different? Sebastian is classified as a child within the context of the WW in the 1890s.

[jovial pumice]

Oh sorry I’m comparing actual history

[remote nymph]

Comparing fantasy and the real world is difficult at best.

[knotty pasture]

if you do also listen to sebs other dialogues, like after classes etc
that'll paint a much darker picture of him

[jovial pumice]

Technically though the real world is outside Hogwarts and such

[burnt raven]

wym torment? i mean until anne dies seb who constantly does dark magic should be kept away from her. let her final days be in peace and away from danger. solomon constantly told seb and seb refuses. i think its fair for solomon to see the potential danger and want that away from his poor niece

[remote nymph]

Torment at being sent to Azkaban and the Dementors.

[jovial pumice]

Nah the girl needs her brother & we’ll throw Ominis in there

[remote nymph]

I don't really get what argument you are trying to make.

[burnt raven]

thats not what i meant i mean solomon moving away with anne and forbidding seb to visit

[jovial pumice]

I don’t get where you’re going either. Moving on!

[burnt raven]

does he talk to you or is he talking randomly out loud?

[deep cypress]

Anne needs Seb, Ominis and MC

[remote nymph]

Oh I thought you meant turning him in.

No, what would have been best for everyone is if Solomon actually tried some empathy and taught Seb the dangers of using Unforgivable Curses.

It's made worse by the fact Solomon himself used Unforgivable Curses during his time as an Auror and still reacts the way he does.

[burnt raven]

i believe he has tried multiple times to teach seb which is why he is upset by the time we meet him

[jovial pumice]

Yes!

[burnt raven]

the fact he was an auror and he himself used unforgivable curse is why he knows the dangers

[jovial pumice]

So upset that he’d literally feed us to Inferi

[deep cypress]

They’re all precious.

Must protecc no matter what

[burnt raven]

bruh let it go 🤣

[remote nymph]

In the opening scene, Seb offers his sister a literal plant and Solomon basically loses it shouting "when will u accept she will die!". That ain't responsible parenting.

[jovial pumice]

I was insulted! That was the first time I died in the game cause I didn’t expect him to do that!

[jovial pumice]

Agreed. And this one here is Ravenclaw, listen children!

[wind sun]

To make the long story short I didn't turn Seb to Azkaban because I like to think I have the opportunity to kill him myself later, go to Azkaban, rebuild the bone infernal relic from the jail meals, escape from jail, find Seb's corpse, resurrect him with infernal relic and grave him again with his favourite confringo for dark wizzard avada build is boring

[burnt raven]

because he had this convo with seb multiple times, he doesnt want anne depressed with that, every time seb visits its all about anne dying

[jovial pumice]

Oh no. I don’t think the SebOmiMainCharacter train would allow that

[deep cypress]

If we’re taking what hapoened in the gameplay battle as fact

My Ravenclaw slammed him repeated into the ground and then pleaded with him to stop lol

And this was the sane Ravenclaw that had agreed with him when they spoke and had expressed how much she didn’t like Sebs plans the entire time, including saying they should leave the relic

[deep cypress]

Facts

They’re the best trio

[wind sun]

But I'm the main character in my game logs

[knotty pasture]

randomly and with other students

[burnt raven]

i'll keep an eye out thanks

[jovial pumice]

Oh I sided with Seb. Solomon has that illness where he enjoys taking care of a sick child. I’m calling it

[remote nymph]

Solomon projected all his anger, frustration and resentment onto a literal child. A child who had to watch as his parents died and also has to watch his sister slowly heading down the same path.

Seb is manipulative, impulsive and sometimes irrational - but he is still a child.

Solomon is a grown adult who should have known better and is a large part responsible for pushing Seb towards extreme measures.

[jovial pumice]

You’d betray a fellow Slytherin like that? I understand Hufflepuff but Slytherin!?

[jovial pumice]

Idk if he’s Manipulative. More impulsive

[wind sun]

Slytherin doesn't have any fellow

[jovial pumice]

This may just be the first time ima have to fight someone from my own house

[remote nymph]

Oh he definitely tried to manipulate Ominis to get what he wants. I noticed it more on my second playthrough

[jovial pumice]

I guess. He didn’t want to go at it alone and knew Ominis knew some secrets

[wind sun]

Actually just imagine in theory if mc able to absorb pain with ancient magic and turn it to power substances then Azkaban is infinite source of power

[remote nymph]

It's still manipulative. I quite like Seb and absolutely don't think he should be turned in, but he does have some questionable traits. Probably as a result of his horrific past, but it makes him a more interesting character.

[jovial pumice]

That’s why I like his character cause look at the discussion he brings with him. That’s when you know he’s well written.

So many characters in movies and games today lack that complexity. They’re either good or bad and that’s it. Negan from the walking dead was a good example of great character development

Like Natty for example. What should we say about her? She likes taking down poachers. The end.

That’s what made Snape a great character too

[oblique trellis]

Well thats why I like the idea of grey characters. There isnt always just black and white. Everything has its reason.

[wind sun]

You all here just trying to romanticize a manipulative relationship built on pity which seb did through all his sub quest no matter what mc should care for his sister for some reason and forget about other stuff to do

[jovial pumice]

Is this coming from the same person that just said he’d kill a child and raise his corpse as an Inferi or did I read wrong?

[remote nymph]

They have a solid foundation, but hopefully with a sequel or continuation of her story they can look at the downsides of Gryffindor archetypes that Natty would embody. Some of the characters were a bit one-sided.

[wind sun]

Show me the line where i'm asking for forgiveness

[jovial pumice]

Sick animal. IN CHARACTER don’t want you to think I’m calling you an animal cause some people… The layer of skin isn’t quite thick

[wind sun]

The problem is I still think there's a lot of lines missing in the final scene or some variations of this scene in general, because if you want to learn avada after cave mission Seb is telling you that he's uncle deserves it or smth, that mc understands him and don't think it was the wrong decision which is super weird

[wind sun]

You remind me I haven't listened an ' unwanted animal' song by amazing devil for quite long thanks

[jovial pumice]

Well that was eventful

Can we all agree that Hufflepuffs are disgraceful?

[wind sun]

Poppy is my character's wifey

Literally the one and only character knows what to do and how to achieve what she needs

[jovial pumice]

She almost got me incinerated by a freaking dragon

[wind sun]

And that was an adventure

Imagine the power you may have from dragon friendship

[jovial pumice]

And you draw the line when you gotta fight Inferi with Seb and Ominis…

[wind sun]

Because Seb fckd up in the end

[jovial pumice]

Oh no not a again

It’s Solomon!

[wind sun]

Anger shouldn't affect the mind

[jovial pumice]

I wouldn’t say it was just anger…

[torpid turret]

Does it excuse what he did, what he chose to do

[wind sun]

He kinda didn't think Solomon is the only adult who cared for his sister when he were crying around in school, I don't know how economics work here or how much money their parents keep for them but cursed girl should live alone in destroyed village is not the clever choice to make

That's why I'm telling he's fckd up completely

[torpid turret]

He wouldn't really listen to anyone else but himself or those that share in his views. No reasoning

[wind sun]

And probably an adult worked for ministry as an auror knows a bit more about curses than 15 y.o boi

And about artifacts

[torpid turret]

I get the desperation but really, couldn't think about how to use them. He still used them outside of helping her sister. Unnecessarily when he did

Unforgivables shouldn't be used so recklessly, if ever.

[jovial pumice]

Have I mentioned that I don’t like Hufflepuffs

[jovial pumice]

Yes but lighting a man on fire and watching him slowly burn to death is fine. sighs This is why you’re Hufflepuff I suppose…

[vagrant warren]

So much this. And a lot of nuance is missing as well. Like can I please have an option that’s somewhere in between “everyone should learn AK” and “no one should learn it” ??

[torpid turret]

It's a game mate, that's not the discussion. The line the game draws is Unforgivables vs non. Guilty vs non guilty killing, so in the games philosophy, that's the grounds I'm arguing

Yes, killing in general is bad but it's a combative game that makes it necessary to kill so I don't add that to the point

Also, just because I'm hufflepuff doesn't mean I didn't dabble in the dark arts myself

I said Recklessly. The if ever part was for those who don't want to use them

[jovial pumice]

laughs in Slytherin

Dark Arts doesn’t include ripping the head off of a flower. @torpid turret

[torpid turret]

I have you know, that's disrespectful 🤣🤣

[burnt raven]

wizard world rules are based on flawed logic and oppression. regular spells are dangerous not only unforgivable, so it makes no sense to ban some but not others. it depends who wields the spells if they are used for good or evil. also some laws like not using magic in front of muggles makes no sense, using magic will land you in prison yet its the muggles who will have fear and wage war on wizards which is the reason you need to hide magic. the muggles are the bad ones not a random innocent wizard doing a harmless spell

not to mention all the racism against magical species

[wind sun]

that's just weirdest lines tbh

there's should be something like 1 everyone should know what avada does but using it to solve your teenage drama is emmm.. 2 nobody should use avada 3 noice job bro i don't care you're in drama teach me right now

[deep cypress]

I never understood why Imperio is illegal but love potions are not.

Like at least Imperio can be resisted if you have enough willpower to fight it.

But once a love potion has you in its thrall you have no way of fighting it and you have to rely on others to intervene or air for it to run its course

Technically Veritaserum isn’t illegal to use either it’s just strictly controlled by the ministry.

Nothing stopping a skilled Potioneer brewing it themselves

[wind sun]

and there should be the version where he don't kill his uncle actually but it's not Detroit:become human where your choise matter 🤡

[wind sun]

same, and imperio is illegal in the world with house elfs slavery

+liquid luck, actually Ranrok is a fool didn't use liquid luck to make his plan works clear

[deep cypress]

Liquid luck is only illegal in competitive sports

And is lethal in high doses.

Relying too much on it can lead to reckless impulsiveness and also lead to accidental death as a result of this recklessness.

It’s also incredibly difficult to brew. If one thing is even slightly wrong the resulting effects of the improper potion can be disastrous

[midnight torrent]

remember to crucio and incedio the poachers 😡 DONT MESS WITH POPPYS GRANDMA

poppy's twist backstory 💯

[torpid turret]

HL: your choices matter
Also HL: Slaps wrist that's a no no

[lean void]

Poppy is wonderful

[distant lintel]

My own personal justification for that is that the Ministry of Magic viewing potioneering as having too many working parts in it to place it under the same category as an Unforgivable Curse. I'm sure there are restrictions to it, but the Ministry of Magic seems to place more of a priority on regulating spells and charms over potions such as that. But this is just me trying to think like an out of touch British politician.

[midnight anchor]

to cast imperio, you need to "mean" it, so it's unforgivable, for potion people can brew it on behalf of "knowledge"

[midnight cave]

They did Sebastian's character so well. There's so many different levels of layers to the dark arts storyline and genuine depth to the characters. They gave us reason to doubt Seb even at the end by making him lie about not meaning to kill his uncle, but I found myself still rooting for him to have a better fate than Azkaban. After all, everything that was likeable about him didn't disappear for me because of the mistakes that he made or the character flaws that he has. I did find it funny though how the only options for avada kedavra was nobody should know the curse or everyone should. It came off a bit like "yeah, I know I just witnessed you murder your uncle and all, but could you please teach me which way to move my stick around so I can go pew pew some more spiders?"

[marble pivot]

If you don't turn him in at the end and ask to learn it in the undercroft it seems less like your gasslighting him I think.

[sick gazelle]

Lol so true on that part

[grim sigil]

just finished the story and dayum

[deep cypress]

And Ominis too, which is impressive considering he’s not even a main “companion” like Sebby, Natty and Poppy)

Ominis just reeks way more fleshed out, nuanced and involved than the other named NPCs who are all relegated to one main personality trait that ties to their single side quest and that’s the only time to talk to them.

Plus you never really get much emotion with those other NPCs unless you choose to mean. Ominis reacts to your choices more and remembers certain choices you made previous as well as having a much larger range of emotions on display, whether he’s talking to you or Seb.

[spark moat]

Hey. It's been bugging me for a while. Why Isidora Morganach did not appear in her own painting?

[deep cypress]

The painting was burned. So the painting couldn’t do anything or even use the frame

[midnight cave]

Agreed!

I initially found Ominus overbearing until the end, when I was like: "wait, maybe I was wrong and you were right the whole time" lol. It legit made me feel a bit presumptuous. It's impressive when a game can do something like that

[deep cypress]

I thought he actualky had the best sense from the start. He knew from personal experience, of both casting and receiving one of the Unforgivables and the way the Dark Arts twisted his family into being cruel to any they considered lesser.

His warnings to Sebastian were spot on. That the Dark Arts can be addictive and alluring and make you do things so against your normal nature that you will regret it for the rest of your life.

He was 100% right. And Seb didn’t listen because he thought he knew better

[midnight cave]

It is interesting that not listening to other people is a character flaw of Seb, and expressly recognized as one in one of the dialogue options. After all, what Anne wants him to do takes a backseat to what he wants to do for Anne throughout the plotline. He is the person who is driving this and he thinks he knows better than other people, including the person who is actually experiencing this illness

[deep cypress]

Yup even the MC telling him that he’s going to far or to leave the relic goes ignored by him.

He’s so solely focused on the Dark Arts being the only solution, he got tunnel vision and couldn’t see the very clear risks that even his blind best friend could see as clear as day

[dense linden]

Just learned crucio lmao got Sebastian to cast it on me

[jovial pumice]

I’ve been seeing a fair amount with a similar opinion, glad I’m not the only one

[midnight cave]

I don't think you are!

[jovial pumice]

Idk what it is, but perhaps the unyielding support for each other throughout the story and failure to give up on one another. (At least for how mine went. I’m not gonna speak about the villains that thought it wise to doom Sebastian to a fate worse than death)

[midnight cave]

This probably goes beyond the scope of what the game actually intended for us to consider but we are arguably accomplices to Solomon's death (I realize there's a self-defense argument) and in my case my MC actually cast crucio on him before repeatedly beating him against the ground multiple times lol. In spite of that, we never get into any legal trouble for it that I know of, and even if we turn Sebastian in (which I didn't), we aren't getting put on trial ourselves. That means Seb probably wasn't willing to even try to deflect the blame for his uncle's death on us, even though he probably had the opportunity to and even though we're willing to send him to the wolves ourselves. That's gotta go for something

[mental pilot]

Solomon never endeared himself to me so I was with Seb the whole time and destroying the relic that was keeping most inferi from attacking further miffed me. My only problem with his death was that Anne happened to see it.

[jovial pumice]

Yea I wish she didn’t see it. But tbh, if we’re looking in lore perspectives, imagine learning Avada from Sebastian and then turning him in. As you said, we technically helped Seb kill Solomon. Yet even after some players practically use him for dark spells, he still doesn’t turn you in when given the chance. Stays loyal to the end. Never thought of it that way.

I think we’re breaking this down though far more than the developers even intended lol.

[deep cypress]

The devs: Ok well have several companions for players to connect with!

Arguably a majority of players: omg Seb and Ominis are just the best and we live them??!!

Devs: wait no.,, Ominis isn’t even a companion

Us: Ominis and Seb are both baby and just protecc at all cost

[jovial pumice]

Ok I’m not gonna call them “Baby” but they’re definitely pretty good friends lol

Don’t even compare the two lol

[deep cypress]

Oh it’s like an alternate way of saying precious.

Like a thing you must protect haha

[jovial pumice]

This must be more of a feminine thing that I have not been exposed to until now haha

[deep cypress]

It’s relatively newish internet slang lol

Though probably is more often used by girls tbf

[jovial pumice]

I’m afraid I’m a bit of an old timer stuck in young persons body

[deep cypress]

I’m 27 and the exact same.

I’m trying to keep up but I still have old habits from my teen years when it comes to text based discussions… I’m still working “XD” out of my system it’s so deeply engrained

[jovial pumice]

22 and wanting to walk around in late 1800s attire. But I’d rather not. I may get the side eye. I also like speaking like a human and not this broken English we’ve adopted, specifically in America.

[deep cypress]

Tbf I’m actually British and a little broken over here too.

Anyways back to HL 🤣

[midnight cave]

I love how Amit just joins for what, one quest, and then just goes "nope" and that's that lol

I thought he was pretty comical lol

[jovial pumice]

If Scotland has Hogwarts, I’m becoming an illegal immigrant tomorrow. Not even waiting for a visa!

[mental pilot]

I felt bad for Amit in our adventure. We didn’t even really need him as we can collect paper fine and the main thing he noticed is schematics for a drill. Just collect a bunch of paperwork and then have Lodgok read it. Amit was woefully underprepared for all the danger.

[midnight cave]

That's true he didn't have to be physically there did he? We can fit dozens of winged beasts in a small bag surely we could have fetched all the papers we needed without him being there at the same time lol

[wind sun]

I'm 27 and wear 19 century cloth

[midnight cave]

Also with the whole Solomon death, like... how good are forensics in the Hogwarts world? Lmao. I get the impression that they don't run very good investigations over there lol. I wonder if there's a way to tell that he died from being cursed and then to see that the same curse was expelled from Seb's wand. I have a feeling that criminal investigations aren't that sophisticated lol

This does not seem like the sort of death that you would let slide in the real world without an investigation but hey, no complaints from me there

[mental pilot]

The ministry is useless anyways

[midnight cave]

They got their issues lmao

[mental pilot]

The main way it seems to now that he was Avada’d is that is his body is undamaged, but still dead. Though after the fight we just had with inferi and lots of cursework his body is certainly damaged too.

[wind sun]

I don't understand the law system of HP world still but when it comes to murder seems they have the ministry of stupid walks, not magic

[shy herald]

It’s probably even worse since this is set in the 1890s

[midnight cave]

Yeah I'm pretty sure 90% of us singed him at least once lol

[shy herald]

Pretty much we break the Decree for the Reasonable Restriction of Underage Sorcery. Which bans the use of underage magic outside of school. Not just curses but all magics. But I think we could argue that self-defence in a life-threatening situation was warranted in most of those cases

[ionic stump]

Can someone help me on the clocktower quest

one door opened randomly but idk bout the others

[zinc coyote]

I suppose it depends on if they've created or know that spell yet for one. For two, do they care enough to check. FFS they threw an innocent girl (Anne) into Azkaban based off the testimony of a pureblood witch who didn't actually SEE anything. When we as part of the HuffPuff exclusive quest get to see Anne in Azkaban the poor woman has gone insane.

Hmmm maybe that's why I didn't tattle on Seb, actually.

There's so much we DON'T know even about our own character which I find to be quite odd. And there's been no sign of any DLC that might even enlighten us to any more of our character's backstory of any of what happens to Seb, Ominis, and Anne (sister-Anne, not prisoner Anne). It feels so unfinished.

[small panther]

Instead of using ancient magic, I wonder why Isidora didn't just use Obliviate on her dad for those specific memories?

[shy herald]

I think in her warped mind she wanted to help her dad but not have him forget her brother and etc. So she was going deeper than memory with her Pain extraction spell.

She seemed to pull the fundamental “pain” from him, the darkness the depression/grief/loss had created inside him. It gets super metaphysical.. cuz she likely pulled more than she should have seeing how it left him in a husk like state. Her spell’s side effect though definitely not good to both the caster and target.

[small panther]

OK so the missing piece that I was missing is that she didn’t want him to forget per se, but just to not be emotionally tied to it or saddened by it.

[shy herald]

That’s totally just my interpretation based on what I saw in the pensive memories and also her journal entries. She truly wanted to help people. Like the person who lost their son and she wanted to help him by removing his pain at the camp she was studying at. Similar to her dad.

The concept stuck a personal cord with me because I have lost a loved one before their time. But that grief is mine and it’s something I need to work on myself. That’s why when the professor told her “it’s not yours to take” it really hit me.

[peak solar]

So I saw a post on Facebook about dumbledore and snape that got me thinking today, everyone is always saying that Sebastian wanted to hurt us with crucio if the spell worked for him but I don’t think that’s the case snape used the killing curse on dumbledore but snape didn’t “want” to kill him he just knew that he had to do it I think Sebastian was able to do it not because he “wanted” to but because he knew he had to do it for us to get out

[runic sinew]

I think its more so that Sebastian actually wanted to hurt us not because he wanted us to suffer but because he wanted the door to open

[peak solar]

That’s what I’m saying he wanted us all to be able to get out so we had to open the door which requires one of us to use crucio so the knowledge of knowing something needs to be done seems to work for the unforgivable s just as much as wanting to cause harm

Just like Harry was able to do imperio because if he didn’t their plan was going to fail

[deep cypress]

Crucio doesn’t need to be personal.

You just have to fully intend to cause the pain. You don’t need a valid reason for it. You just have to fully mean to hurt the victim, reason or not

Harry cash it on Carrow right after he spat on Minerva.

He meant to hurt Carrow 100% so the curse worked. But it’s not like it was personal in regards to Carrow himself. It was reflexive.

Harry just wanted him to suffer

[distant lintel]

Yeah, in the instance of Sabastian casting it on us, his reasoning behind it was that he wanted to open the door. So when he cast the spell, his intention was to torture us in order to open the door. The reason behind your motive doesn't matter, what matters in the end is that you desire to torture someone.

[peak solar]

Harry tried crucio on Bellatrix with the intention of causing her pain and it didn’t work right

[deep cypress]

Yup. That was his justification for wanting to cause the pain.

It wasn’t it personal in any way. Very much a means to an end

[runic sinew]

Thats cuz Harry sucks

[distant lintel]

That was because Harry didn't fully intend on harming her to that degree, which made the curse inactive. Voldemort even said that in order to cast an unforgivable curse, your heart must have severe malicious intent.

Essentially, at the time, Harry's strict moral compass prevented him from being able to cast an unforgivable curse because he just wasn't malicious enough to cast it.

[vale ruin]

What happens to Helen after the Jackdaw quest? She was scratched by Anne but not only physically, it also seemed to have left a magical mark which seemed like it would have lasting consequences.
And what happened to Anne? Was she proven innocent of Jackdaw's murder after all, and released?

[shy herald]

You will get a owl to explain and answer some of these questions. I really wish there was more to it tho

[vale ruin]

Ah. When I ended the quest in the map chamber I got the platinum so I stopped playing. Thats why I missed the letter

Who was the letter from, do you remember ?

[shy herald]

Ahh hopefully you’ll find sometime to pick up the game where you left off.

Her brother Eddie writes to you. || He explains Helen survived the attack. And since we helped Jackdaw he has promised to help get Anne out of prison by working with the Ministry ||

[vale ruin]

Cool 👍 thanks. Yea I wish there was more than a letter too, but at least some letter explaining what happened to her after.

When people said Hufflepuffs have the coolest sidequest, they didn't lie.
Although I wish there was more than just one house exclusive sidequest.

[shy herald]

Compared to the other houses side quest it’s definitely more interesting.

[deep cypress]

Ravenclaws is the worst hands down

[vale ruin]

Yea true

[shy herald]

The one with the wand 😅

[vale ruin]

I just watched a video about all the diffrences in gameplay between the houses and I just found out I could have used the ravenclaw tower as a landing spot all this time 😭

[deep cypress]

You don’t go anywhere interesting or meet new NPCs or do anything actually interesting.

Just:

get statues, put statues in thing

ascend

You now have the next quest to go to Jackdaws tomb

Also if you go back to Olivander after talking to Jackdaw and the next quest start to find his ghost in the forest, before you’ve even been in the tomb, you can go back to Olivander and tell him all about the broken wand and where it was like you’ve gone through the tomb.

It’s funny.

Clearly my character has the Sight to be able to know what she’s going to find lol

[arctic helm]

I don’t get how the bad ending is bad

I mean in the good ending you’re essentially throwing away a lotta power for no real reason other than you might not be able to control it… something which is proven false in the bad ending where you control the power from the repository

[shy herald]

Both ending cutscenes left me wanting more. The “bad” ending even more so than the “good”. The ending scene didn’t really explain beyond what we see. We don’t know if we indeed could control the ancient magick to the degree that it wouldn’t make us go insane like Isadora down the road. We seal the repository (even tho we said we will open it) then play around with the residual lingering emotions floating around us. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[deep cypress]

It’s not that you might not be able to control it.

It’s the fact that the power came from forcefully taking the pain away from actual children

That there was no consent in what was taken, and the fact that it often led to no emotions at all. Also the power is addictive and corrupting as we saw with Isadora and her journals where she claims that the rush of power when inhaling the dark residue convinced her that she was doing the right thing with her power.

The pain wasn’t hers to take. Nor is it ours to use.

[arctic helm]

Ok but you can’t untake the pain away

Yea it’s bad that it was non-consensual stuff with children but it’d be foolish to throw it away… it’s not like you can give the feeling of pain back to those children so why make their sacrifice worthless?

Just feels stupid is all… why do the writers have a thing against power?

[hardy bison]

Because power can and will lead to misuse. At no time a single person should have that amount of power, because humans are flawed, you could get corrupted, or just even fall in love and that love being threatened

[shy herald]

The entire game is all about varying tropes of how one uses power. at its core we go to a school to learn how to hone our powers for the betterment of wizard kind. There’s a spider man quote for this lol

[arctic helm]

I feel like that’s a bad generalisation to make… humanity is always getting more powerful through the advance of technology… should we draw a line in the sand to risk not getting corrupted?

The idea that power shouldn’t be controlled because you might become corrupted by it is a dangerous stigma to have… I will say I wish there was a way to share the power with everyone else though, I always felt like no group should “protect” others by hoarding power but that’s getting into irl politics at this point

[hardy bison]

That’s not really what I meant. I am not saying that humanity as a whole shouldn’t have that power. I am saying one single person or just a few shouldn’t.

[vale ruin]

True words hufflepuff, every country should have nukes, ehm sry I meant everyone should have that ancient magic stuff ;P

[deep cypress]

The game also heavily leans into how good intentions can be warped or twisted by the lure of dark magic.

And the dark ancient magic used and it’s residue corrupted Isadora who’s intentions were good. Even if you take the power to share it and finish her work, you’re just becoming her. Thinking that forcefully taking emotion is the way to peace and that autonomy doesn’t matter in the face of your ideal world.

Taking it for yourself is even worse. Because that power will corrupt you. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

That’s why the bad choices are bad. There’s no possible good outcome

[shy herald]

That’s why the I want to share this secret with the world dialogue is what my canon game play story for my Main. I believe he can control it cuz he has seen heh failures of his predecessors and has enough intelligence to use the power for greater good. Cuz he’s just better than Isadora as a wizard heh

[hardy bison]

Yes, this!!

[arctic helm]

I guess we’re in agreement then?

[arctic helm]

Every citizen should be able to purchase nukes

Governments are way too trigger happy

[arctic helm]

Agree

[hardy bison]

That would be an absolute Katastrophy. No there is power that should not exist and real world nukes is one of these things

Way to dangerous

[shy herald]

I agree.

But also Isadora had limited resources at the time and even professor Fig low key was like “maybe we should have told the other professors about this than keeping it our secret” tbh the writing at the end kind of got wonky

[arctic helm]

Ok but why’s the government allowed them if we ain’t?

Also we allowed to get into irl politics on this channel? Don’t wanna break the rules is all…

[vale ruin]

No. Rule 15

[shy herald]

Rule #15 says no politics so good call

[hardy bison]

I don’t think so, that’s why we should stop that too

[arctic helm]

Cool cool

Guess now that I got a solid 40 min left before my meeting gonna try to collect data on the spells through tier lists

[hardy bison]

But for in the game. This power is not really shareable, because seemingly only a few ones can wield ancient magic

[vale ruin]

I'm not sure whether that is true

[deep cypress]

I think he was just referring to the fact that if he’d asked for their help earlier, the could have possibly gotten ahead of Ranrok

You’re supposed to have the advantage of the knowledge of what happened to Isadora when she used the dark ancient magic.

They were warning you that the sane thing could/would happen to you if you followed her path. As that dark magic is alluring and addictive, and actively encourages you to keep using it for more power. It even seemed to warp Isadoras memory of helping her father by making her think he was extra grateful and overjoyed to be free of pain. As seen with the static in her memory.

Yes he thanked her in the Keepers memories, but he was way happier about it in her recollection of the event

[shy herald]

I just wish in the end the ministry showed up or something and put up red tape all over the map chamber and Hogwarts and did some memory wipes… cuz everyone was just so chill after the attack on the school the huge emotional dragon…

[vale ruin]

I mean only a very few can see traces of it, but maybe wielding it can be learned.

[shy herald]

Yah I agree and understand. The strange like glitch and shift in her memory was a nice visual touch to show us her mind was warped already as her own memories were even altered by her to a degree

[hardy bison]

That could be true, yes. Good point.

[fallen shard]

i ten million percent agree. i got a few nods from NPCs afterwards , but like...yall know i saved yalls lives right????????

[deep cypress]

Few can wield it, even fewer can see traces of it.

The “share it with the world” option even has MC say something like “I want to finish Isadoras work” or something to that effect.

By sharing the magic you mean that you want to share Isadoras gift of no more pain…

Or any other emotion.

[hardy bison]

I am really hoping they will make a part 2 but tbh I wouldn’t know how. Y’all got any ideas?

[shy herald]

The endings definitely felt like a season opener and not a season finale so hopefully we get more details via dlcs or future expansions 🤞🏽

[fallen shard]

Ive been wondering too-because depending on your answer they'd have to make two very different game stories,which would be ok but also makes me sad as I want to come back as my same character as a 6th yr ;-; i want to see my friends again in the new school yr,and want to see more of the hp world ~ [and possibly other schools in later games or ??]

[vale ruin]

Yea lets delete all emotion, only reason remains.
Most moral ending ;P

[hardy bison]

Yeah that’s true, but imo there is no chance to make the game really compelling, because we know all the spells now

[shy herald]

Like it would have been nice for the teachers to have a few dialogues about how we fought side by side and save the school. I guess they did give us points for the house cup cuz we are the class hero but still… LOL

[vale ruin]

What you mean?

[hardy bison]

That gives a game really big trouble, because how will you progress. And how will you make it not overwhelming for players that didn’t play part 1.

[vale ruin]

Are you talking about a potential sequel

[hardy bison]

They cannot “teach” us the spells anymore. And therefor we already know them

[fallen shard]

but a cutscene with them talking privately about all ive done would have been wonderful,also..id love for there to be students in their large sleepwear at night in the dorms or sleeping like..its a ghost town at night x.x..random but just saying haha

[shy herald]

They’ve done more complex things with mass effect and dragon age series

[deep cypress]

DLC could add more spells and further stories and quests

[fallen shard]

as ive mentioned before id rather HWL2 to be an expansion ~

[shy herald]

I was sad cuz in the house cup scene I had no idea who the students were cheering with me lol where was our actual friends?

[hardy bison]

The thing is how would it be possible. I am not talking about extension. I mean they could give us a beginning where we get hit by amnesia or smth like that but I don’t know if that feels good

[fallen shard]

there are pleeeenty of spells to add as we go,its just making them pertinent to story and creating puzzles and reasons to use them~

[hardy bison]

Yeah true, but I would guess that the possible income for that would be lower for the company

[vale ruin]

Yea expansion sounds nice. Like how Rockstar kept adding content to gta

[fallen shard]

RIGHT?? get OFF me wheres natt n popp Dx i get it its not from my house but..if thats the case gimmi my mini cutscenes with my friends afterwards lolo

[shy herald]

Oh yah I gotcha. More than likely we’d play a diff student perhaps our 5th years sibling. They will find a way to retcon us. Since MC has no real story cuz they are the living unwritten

[fallen shard]

but more ,like yeah thats an idea but in games like FFXIV its more involved than just "ooo casino heist and new house in casino ooooo,content 😎 "

[shy herald]

My main is Slytherin it was so disappointing not seeing Ominis and Seb cheering with me in that final scene.. 😭

[fallen shard]

i wouldnt have seb but yes ominus not cheering with me was sad Dx

YES I DID IT.

[deep cypress]

T R A I T O R

[fallen shard]

xD i had to protect ominis . i have no regrets >;o

[deep cypress]

H E R E T I C

[deep cypress]

Protect him? He’s absolutely devastated with Seb gone.

That’s like the worst thing

[fallen shard]

you were there for the whole chat,clock xD

nah,he'll be ok. he has me. a non dark wizard friend who wont drag him through unforgivables ~

[deep cypress]

You forget.

I have no room in my head for retaining things, it’s too full of LORE

[fallen shard]

changing the Slyth name one wand at a time!!!!

[fallen shard]

ahah oh yes true true! loo

[deep cypress]

Lol my Ravenclaw didn’t and never will learn the curses but she gave Seb one final chance. To try and fix the bridges he burned. The relationships he broke.

One more screw up though and she’s drag him to Azkaban herself lol.

[fallen shard]

ahahaha ,who knows,maybe i'll break him out in hwl2 LOL

[hardy bison]

I turned him in too as a slitherin 😳

I mean he would never had stopped in my opinion

[deep cypress]

Amos Diggory’s “MY BOOOYYYY”

[gleaming sedge]

Just finished the tangled web quest, and I certainly understand why a lot of players were freaked out by it

[vital gate]

This channel should be renamed #!!-sebastian-spoilers-!!. It's 90%+ of the convo in here lmao

[distant lintel]

Eh you’re not wrong

[slate ravine]

It's the only worthwhile spoiler in the game and the only spoiler that warrants serious discussion

[deep cypress]

And the only one that actually has any consequences that affect the game

Even the main quest choice literally doesn’t matter beyond what cutscene you get

[slate ravine]

And aside from the very last one, most of them don't have any major difference. It's honestly the second biggest missed opportunity in this game.

[dense linden]

How tf do I hear this dragon

[spice atlas]

True, and the death of professor fig. But fig doesn't have that much discussion bringing with him I guess.

[uncut urchin]

I haven't made it that fare yet but I decided to ruin the game for me since it had glitched out in the main story where I can't get quests long story short I ended up loosing my current save along with 12++++ hrs of game play

[tardy maple]

Guys does it change my ending if i learn the imperius curse ?

[distant lintel]

No, the curses have no affect on the story.

[tardy maple]

Okay thank you

[slate ravine]

Unfortunately no

[timber swift]

Alright, i know i am probably late finishing, but wanna know.....who cried?

[slate ravine]

I honestly almost cried

It caught me completely off guard I wasn't expecting it

[golden prairie]

I feel bad for anyone who didn’t choose to learn the curses thinking they’ll get it later

[quartz karma]

what would yall rate the game?

[cunning inlet]

6, feels empty after doing side missions & the main storyline

[graceful elm]

nice

[iron sandal]

prof fig nooooooooooooo 😦

[tight raven]

I waa sad when Figg died

I got the good idea though

[jovial pumice]

I don’t. If they backstabbed Sebastian, it is a lesson learned.

[jovial pumice]

One of my favorite games made. The scenery is so in depth and looks amazing. Hogwarts really comes to life if you just turn off the HUD and roam about, there’s numerous random “events” that pop up that add to the atmosphere.

Characters were extremely well written, specifically those in Slytherin. As many would agree, Seb and Ominis were great characters.

Side quests for friends/companions were fun and intriguing (once again, Slytherin friends were the highlight here).

Main story was average. The antagonists were great but had VERY limited screen time.

Gameplay is fun but isn’t very challenging.

Clothing looks very nice.

I think I covered the base.

[graceful elm]

lowkey wouldve been nice if we kept the dealthy hallows

wouldnt work out tho bc of how op they are

[mental pilot]

Except the resurrection stone. What a letdown.

Strong wand? Done. Invisibility Cloak? Sure. Monster Reborn? Nope, it’s too hax. Have a ghost summoner.

[deep cypress]

They weren’t the real Hallows.

I don’t think they were even real in any capacity. Just a pale copy made for the strange storybook world Niamh had in that book.

[golden prairie]

yes but Deek thinks you've made marvelous improvements there

[weary tendon]

Deeks thinks you should be proud of all the potions you’ve brewed

[fallen saddle]

Why in Hogwarts Legacy when you drink the polyjuice potion your voice sounds like Phineas, but in the HP movies Harry and Ron don’t sound like Crabbe and Goyle?

[fiery oriole]

Yes :)

The real reason is it's more fun for the voice actors that way XD

[fallen saddle]

I suppose that could be why 😂

[fiery oriole]

I can imagine the Headmaster's Voice Actor laughing in the booth XD

[golden prairie]

wait till someone realized Simon Pegg voiced the Headmaster

[deep cypress]

In the books (and occasionally the movies when it’s more comedic) the voice changes too.

They just had the main trio retain their normal voice for the audiences sake. In universe they’d sound exactly like the person they turned into .

It’s a filmmaking design so that audiences, especially younger audiences would be able to tell that it was actually the trio

[fallen saddle]

Ohhh, sure. But you’d be pretty dumb not to understand that when you see Harry turn into… whoever he turned into, Goyle?

[deep cypress]

Yeah if you’re a teen/adult with the ability to realise that.

But younger children might not. Plus it can allow for more funny moments with the trio voicing the characters

It’s just something to clearly differentiate that they’re not really that character

[fallen saddle]

Uh huh. Well sure it was more comedic, didn’t realize HP was a comedy movie though 😂

[fiery oriole]

I could also imagine the movies just were like

"They made the potions slightly badly"
So maybe their voices stayed the same because of that XD

[deep cypress]

But the other characters would notice if they sounded suspiciously exactly like another character.

So in universe they’re hearing the voice of whoever they’re disguised as.

Only the audience hear the original characters voice

[lethal star]

just finished the game 😭

the music for the ranrok fight is so good omg

[fiery oriole]

No you're right I'm not disagreeing XD that's was just a funny addition I made

[lethal star]

im ngl fig’s dying position made me laugh

[fiery oriole]

Sebastian be out here making me sob because I have morals

But I broke my morals because I love him

It was a really hard decision for me X'D

[lethal star]

omg i felt so bad using imperio on ominis

it was so upsetting 😭

[fiery oriole]

I never learned the forbidden spells XD

[fallen saddle]

But Hermione made them 😅

[fiery oriole]

Ah good point

It's been awhile XD

I prefer Fantastic Beasts XDDDD

[fallen saddle]

Seems you belong.. in Slytherin

[fallen saddle]

Gotta have his back, he’s the homie

[fiery oriole]

Gryffindor can be evil too if they wish XD

[fallen saddle]

😳

[fiery oriole]

Yeah ;v; he had my heart day 1 it's so unfair X'D

I took justice into my own hands and make him to community service XD

[fallen saddle]

Sheeesh, commanding Sebastian around 😳🤣

[fiery oriole]

Look that's what he gets for what he did XDDD
I gotta glue my morals back together for even hiding it XD

[deep cypress]

This plus also devastated Ominis feeling regret and empty once Seb is gone breaks my heart and I just can’t do it to him

“As much as we all wanted Sebastian to pay for his actions… things will never be the same without him… just standing here in the Undercroft without Sebastian feels wrong.”

“Sebastian was my best friend… I can’t imagine Hogwarts… or anywhere without him.”

“He meant… means… a lot to us both… I hope we get the chance to tell him that, one day”

How can anyone do that to him? He’s so torn up about it…

My BOOYYYY

Ominis just needs a hug

Like give that boy all the hugs he’s too precious

[fiery oriole]

Yeah! That's why I made a 2nd file before I picked

I picked turning him in at first

But I was so devastated afterwards to the point Fig's death wasn't sad

But when I went back and kept his secret Fig's death made me cry X'D

[deep cypress]

Same lol. Made an extra save before the final repository and sent to decide Sebs fate.

Once the final repository was done and I got to experience devastated Ominis first hand I was like “nope, no way..l I’m choosing the option of potential redemption and making sure Ominis is ok”

[fiery oriole]

Plus he said even Anne was split on it too, but I could tell Ominis felt even worse about it X'D

[deep cypress]

Honestly him and Seb are the few NOCs who actually sound really emotive with their lines.

Like you could really hear Sebs hatred of goblins when he berates you for trusting one

Or Ominis being angry at you sneaking out of the Undercroft

Or being devastated at losing his best friend forever

[fiery oriole]

You have no idea how hurt I was when we fought X'D

Ignorant? Nah hun I'm great XDDD

I love that the first time I met Ominis he was mad at me X'DDDD I'm glad that was only once

[deep cypress]

When you tell him it was Seb that showed you the Undercroft and he’s like

“That RAT!!!” 😠

[fiery oriole]

Yeah I redid that part too X'D

I'm a Hufflepuff, sometimes I'm TOO honest XDDDD

[lethal star]

LMAO

[deep cypress]

Lol a part of my second characters personality is he refuses to lie

Even if it hurts peoples feelings lol

[fiery oriole]

AppleJack moment XD

Also Natsai also deserves more love, her plot was so fun, and I loved the lore of Uganda's Wizard school!

[fallen saddle]

How cool would it have been if Natsai could teach you to become an animagus? Missed opportunity 😭

[fiery oriole]

Right?? Just like Talbott in Hogwarts Mystery XDDD

[fallen saddle]

Yessss just like that 😭

[fiery oriole]

To this day I still play that game, took a long break

But I'm a 4th year now XDDD
And guess what
Another Slytherin took my heart XDDDD
Before I met Sebastian but still I'm seeing a pattern XDDDD

[quartz karma]

i agree tho i wish there were more classes but they can do that in dlcs and expansions

[stable edge]

does the biscuit mission works on pc properly?

[deep cypress]

If you opened the cage any time prior to the quest then you currently can’t finish it

Got to wait for an update to patch it

[stable edge]

so lets try the quest and hope i didn't openned it lol

[stable edge]

have you turn sebastien in?

[tardy maple]

Guys is lodgock s royalty last quest ? I don t wanna end the game yet

[mental pilot]

No, Lodgok’s loyalty isn’t the last quest.

[stable edge]

the last quest is The Final Repository

[oblique trellis]

No and I refuse to ever do it :D

[stable edge]

i turned sebastien in

however when I will finish 100% of the game I will restart with a new wizzard and I will refuse all sorts of those spells x)

[oblique trellis]

Damn, I could never do that.

I was also tempted to refuse to learn the spells but I like having all of them

[stable edge]

the avada kadavra becomes handy for finals missions xD

[stable edge]

also you are slytherin for a reason 😂

[oblique trellis]

that is correct but I just wouldnt send a 15 year old to Azkaban for the rest of his life. His uncle lost his Auror Job for using an Unforgivable curse on a dark wizard an I think he should be the last one to hate on his nephew (who is a child). Was the killing curse too much, yes definitely but he shouldnt be send to Azkaban for the rest of his life. Just my opinion that doesnt have to do anything with my House :D

[stable edge]

Is a " small " decision , that doesn't have a big impact on the story xD
So is okay , whenever I get a new wizzard I will do some roleplay and do everything according to "my real " decisions

[mental pilot]

Just a big impact on a young friend who made a mistake

[stable edge]

when I say small I mean in the story mode or the game itself
I just did to see what would happen after , but no cinematic of azkaban 😢

[oblique trellis]

yeah but I like to think of the real consequences for him, not for us. Its interesting that we can go around and kill goblins and wizards and slice them and turn them into chickens or full out delete them with your ancient magic but yeah when someone uses a killing spell that is painless, you get thrown into Azkaban forever where Dementors suck the life out of you until you go mad. Nice ^^

I have the feeling people dont really think about the consequences of a 15 year old being thrown into Azkaban until the end of his life ^^ Thats all :D

[mental pilot]

Yeah for me, it’s hard for me to justify sending anyone to Azkaban unless they’re like a death eater, Harlow, or Rookwood. If only they mentioned some non dementor prisons.

[deep cypress]

You could refuse to learn them during his questline but then if you don’t turn him in you can then just learn them whenever by going to see him in the Undercroft

[oblique trellis]

I mean I would understand if he would get expelled or something and somehow got punishment... but something that is a treatment for a literal child. Also other aspects should be included like his sick sister, death of parents, bad "parenting" of his uncle and all that. Azkaban seems way too cruel

[oblique trellis]

Yeah I know that, but thank you! I think its good to know because when I first played I refused to learn Avra Kedavra just because from the writing and story aspect it was absolutely inappropriate to ask Sebastian to teach him the spell when he was still in shock, just killed his uncle and emotions were all over the place. It felt so freaking off to me to respond "Lets go, teach me, this is amazing" Like...what? lmao

[stable edge]

i would be a bit careful and play more RP if there was a karma system in place

for now I was just " muggle it " and let's to the main quests and enjoy everything without worrying

[mental pilot]

“Oh, you killed your uncle? That’s so…whatever. But that curse was awesome! Teach me, teach me!”

[deep cypress]

My Ravenclaw lass just refused to learn any of them and never will for RP reasons

But she still didn’t turn him in, believing that he should have one more chance to try and start making amends for what he’s done. She doesn’t approve of what he did, but can understand that he just got too in over his head and so fixated in Dark Arts being the only solution.

After knowing what happened to Isadora when Dark Magic had her in its thrall, but she didn’t have close friends like Seb has to try and stop him or give him a reason to stop.

[stable edge]

True I was a bit " wtf " is like this you learn it x)

[deep cypress]

“Yeah yea, real sad that you killed your uncle and broke the bond between you and your twin and all that… but I want to be able to destroy families too! Teach me!”

[oblique trellis]

I totally get the RP reasons, I am pretty much the same, really having a backstory and personality of my characters in my head and then act accordingly. So it felt double off for me to go like "yo, you just killed your uncle and I can see that you are having a very tough time but I mean no time like the present, teach me" LOL Like who wrote that stuff ^^

[deep cypress]

Agreed lol

Especially as my character had been against his plans and expressed that every chance she got.

Suddenly being like “look I know I’ve been against this the whole time, but I want the insta kill spell plz”

It just would have been so out of character and was unthinkable for her lol

[oblique trellis]

yeah, totally. I just wish our decisions could have actually had an impact and based on that went on different routes. Like when you do and say XY Seb would not kill his uncle etc. and find or not find a cure and so on

[dire lichen]

Lodgok dead, oh no. I kinda felt sorry for him

[jovial pumice]

What do we all think Sebastian and Ominis’s patronus would be respectively?

[vital gate]

Sebastian's would be a mule, as he's stubborn as one

[jovial pumice]

Idk… He seems to find comfort in friends and his family. Specifically Ominis and the MC and his Sister

[vital gate]

*Sister. He hates his uncle, lol

[jovial pumice]

He kills his uncle lol

[vital gate]

Yes

[jovial pumice]

But yea there’s that. I feel it’s conflicting. What about Ominis?

Actually, which patronus means you have a strong desire for something?

[vital gate]

I could see something like a raven

[jovial pumice]

A raven for Ominis?

[vital gate]

Yeah

[jovial pumice]

Actually I guess I can see it.

How does a patronus battle off dementors? Especially if the patronus is something like a bird

[deep cypress]

Agreed lol

Like you can go against Sebby and actualky side with Ominis to stop him.

Because even if you tell Ominis that you agree that he’s going too far, you still persuade him to let Seb go and keep helping Seb

Like when Solomon confronts him you can’t side with him and he low-key seems to blame you in his dialogue in battle even if in the one time you spoke to him you said you were worried about Seb

Like my character disagreed with Seb throughout and urged caution every step but still help him like… why give the dialogue option if it doesn’t change anything?

“Oh yeah I agree Ominis, he’s going too far and I know I told him to leave the Relic but you should still let him pass because he won’t stop and I’m a doormat lol”

[deep cypress]

Pulses of positive thoughts/feelings. It’s what the Patronus is made of (just made physical and stronger with magic)

And as Denentors are essentially depression made physical, positivity is both what repels and draws them. They eat hopes and positivity but if that positivity is buffed with magic and used as a weapon, it repels them.

[jovial pumice]

Oh I see. So it’s not the animal itself but rather the patronus‘s energy and what it represents that repels the dementors which feed on our negativity?

Ima need to cast this thing hourly lol

[fiery oriole]

Sometimes I forget we don’t actually cure Anne-
I have an incredible skill of rewriting canon in my mind X’D

[deep cypress]

Yeah the animal for it takes is just something reflective of the persona casting it. And it can change forms due to big life events like falling in love.

[deep cypress]

This is what fan stories and fanfics are for lol

[fiery oriole]

Exactly!! XD

Like I always say
You👏can’t👏separate👏twins👏

[deep cypress]

Denentors are negative emotions like pain and suffering made corporeal that seek out and feed on the hood of humans. Leaving them with only the negative feeling/memories.

But if that positivity is made physical, or weaponised. It can repel them.

[jovial pumice]

I’m writing a fanfiction (NOT a creepy intimate one) about my character and the companions he meets. Focusing more on that than Ranrok and such. Just gonna have Rookwood as the main baddie and take out all those trials

[jovial pumice]

Oh so a patronus isn’t everlasting? It changes with time?

[oblique trellis]

yeah exactly.. dont get me wrong, I freaking love this game and the story and its characters. But please dont sell it as an RPG when it isnt. Our decisions dont have impact and even the bad answers are nice, you cant really disagree and even if you choose the bad ending in the end it wont change anything or have major consequences. I hope for future DLCs and sequels they can maybe change it up a bit because it was really frustrating seeing Sebastian go down this road when we could have changed things for the better. And yes, the blaming of Solomon was upsetting at least. But the whole character of him is a bit meh anyways... we are literally all 15/16 and he is the adult but blames us when he is the "parent" of Seb and Anne and its his responsibility!! Like, come on man

[jovial pumice]

These “kids” act and look more like college students imo

I mean I’m 22 and I’m told that my character looks near identical to me. Maybe that’s why I like the game so much too. I’m egotistical like that

[deep cypress]

It can change due to things like love (even unrequited love) as Severus’ Patronus might have been something different if his love for Lilly hadn’t endured

Tonks’ Patronus changed into a Wolf to match Lupins because she was in love with him

[jovial pumice]

Interesting

[oblique trellis]

True but still... Solomon is acting very unfairly (in my opinion) for an adult

[jovial pumice]

I agree. He says Seb is “impulsive” yet he destroys the dark artifact which in turn makes all the Inferi attack us

[jovial pumice]

Dudes gotta take his own advice and back off

[fiery oriole]

Even though I’d rather have helped the twins out of that relationship with their uncle

Yeah he was an absolute abusive jerk.
I’ll give Seb credit for that XD

[oblique trellis]

And dont forget, this guy was an Auror. Like what the hell is he doing, putting all of them at risk and then casting damage spells at us

[oblique trellis]

Exactly

[fiery oriole]

yeah he’s a COP XD

All of Newts friends are the only valid ones XD

[deep cypress]

Yeah I love the game too but the only choice you make that actually changes anything is the choice you make with Sebs fate.

The choice you makes in the Final Repository only affects what cutscene you get after beating Ranrok. No negatives or benefits.

And then even if you chose to steal an item an NPC asked you to get or refuse to tell them what you learned/found the only thing that changes is their idle dialogue you might hear if you pass them in the school.

[oblique trellis]

And Solomon literally "retired" because he cast an Unforgivable at a Dark Wizard. Did he go to Azkaban? Nope

[jovial pumice]

I viewed the uncle differently as I’ve said. I genuinely believe he took pride in caring for Anne and didn’t want her to get better. Almost like a sickness cause it makes him feel “complete.”

Even when Sebastian brought Anne natural remedies to help her, he’d destroy them. Even if it had nothing to do with Dark Arts. He’d be like “Nope!”

And then proceed to blame Seb for his Sisters pain. “Now look what you’ve done!”

Omg I hate texting. Always have to edit the message

[fiery oriole]

Oh shoot that’s so true, he’s a hypocrite!!

[oblique trellis]

Yeah, its absolutely lame sadly. There are other games that did a better job with that overall.

[deep cypress]

I think he was given permission by the ministry to use them, but as he’d never used them before that, when he did use it, it affected him so badly emotionally and mentally that he quit and it soured his opinion of the Ministry and the Dark Arts

[jovial pumice]

Why do they give us such great characters and a world and then end it off like they did? Honestly the ending didn’t feel like the end. It left me with more questions and answers.

[fiery oriole]

Knowing the ministry from all other times in the series

They definitely wouldn’t have given him permission to use those

[oblique trellis]

Yo! That was so inappropriate to blame Sebastian for her pain with the "Look what youve done" And then (like Seb said) always talking about him with "your fathers son" like its an insult. Not okay at all. The guy is an auror, he should be fighting for a cure. There is a good chance that a curse can be reversed. Its a shame though that we couldnt get an answer from Rookwood which curse he used and so on. Like we got the information that it was him but we didnt really do anything with it other telling Seb/Ominis

[jovial pumice]

Especially with Seb. Onai had a complete story. Poppy just wanted to help animals. They kinda left Seb and Ominis’s fates up in the air. Would have been nice if we could go to Anne and try to talk her into understanding what happened.

[deep cypress]

They have given Aurors permission to use them before

[fiery oriole]

Oh pfft

[jovial pumice]

They NEEDED to expand on Rookwood more. You figure out he cursed Anne and then that’s it. Would have been better if we killed Harlow but spared Rookwood and tied him up somewhere and brought Sebastian with us to interrogate him.

[oblique trellis]

Ah okay, got ya. I mean that is relatable of course but I felt like he was just utterly frustrated with his life, like it didnt have any other sense than caring for Anne. The fact that he is giving up with his niece being 15 and just saying "we cant help her and can just try to ease her pain" is unbelievable. Like, he could use contacts to the Ministerium and ask for a clue, they have massive knowlegde etc or even ask professors in Hogwarts, I know they have been to hospitals but I doubt that they are professionals with Dark Arts

[oblique trellis]

Same... it also even felt empty and not finished! Gives me hope for DLCs and sequels though! It has massive potential!

[jovial pumice]

Nothing like a little Crucio to get him talking. They could’ve given us different interrogation options to get the answer out of him by allowing us OR Seb to interrogate him.

That’s conflicting. One may say it’s wrong to inflict pain on to someone using an unforgivable, while others would say it’s warranted because of what Rookwood did (im all for it).

[oblique trellis]

Yes, exactly! Like, when he said the "Children are better seen and not heard" I was like :O OMG! He was it, so can we get closer to a cure now? But he literally just killed him so I was a bit bummed...

[jovial pumice]

He died so fast that if you blinked you’d miss it. The quick time event or whatever it is was cool. But ended too quickly

[deep cypress]

St Mungo’s is the most knowledgeable hospital for dark curses and injuries.

They also provide permanent residence to patients needing life,ing care. That they couldn’t find a what to help is telling for just how powerful and unknown the dark fuse used was.

[oblique trellis]

Oh wow, okay I didnt know that. Would you say then that a search for a cure is pointless if St Mungos doesnt know? Or is there still stuff that is unknown (also given that we are in the late 1800s)

[jovial pumice]

I’d of just killed all of Rookwoods men and Crucio’d the crap out of him until he either gave us knowledge on Anne’s curse, or died from the pain. Either one.

[oblique trellis]

It was really cool that he kidnapped us but just imagine how cool it would have been if we had gone missing and our friends would have saved us or something? It was all a bit short!

[jovial pumice]

I just wanna crucio the crap out of him

If he dies and doesn’t wanna spill the beans on Anne’s curse, oh well. I would NEVER hand him over to the ministry of magic. They’d just lock him up and call it a day.

[hearty coral]

so case in point murder?

[jovial pumice]

Hmm?

[oblique trellis]

yeah, I feel that :D Imagine they would have changed things up, Seb hears Rookwood say the sentence and then use a Unforgivable at him or Avada Kedavra and THATS the dilemma for killing a person. Yes it would have been justified but also.. he would have killed someone.

[deep cypress]

I’d say it’s the reason Sebs idea that the only solution is dark Magic, makes some sense.

But St Mungo’s doesn’t use Dark Magic for treatments. They’ll have tried every possible method that didn’t involve it

[jovial pumice]

Rookwood was the first one I used Avada Kedavra on. Sebastian taught me the curse so I felt I did him some form of justice by first using it on Rookwood.

[fiery oriole]

I wanted to interrogate him!! X’D find out what he cursed Anne with

[jovial pumice]

I’d start pulling fingers

[oblique trellis]

Yes!!!!

[fiery oriole]

Y’all are so violent! XD

[deep cypress]

And even then curses aren’t normally something you can just cure.

If they were, the Maledictus Curse wouldn’t be affecting bloodlines or other curses that affect generation after generation.

[jovial pumice]

Well if he cursed my best friends sister, lord help him

[fiery oriole]

Oh for sure yeah XDDDD

[oblique trellis]

I mean as we know Seb, he researched a lot and really went into the topic with reading so I guess he was onto something

[jovial pumice]

Not to mention we’re both Slytherin.

[hearty coral]

I would make him teach me it and then use it on him

[oblique trellis]

Yeah makes sense... Oh man, I just really wish there is/was a cure ... thats all :(

[hearty coral]

What goes around comes around

[fiery oriole]

I’m his Emotional Support Hufflepuff who tells him when he’s going too far, sadly he didn’t listen X’D

[jovial pumice]

Seb wasn’t impulsive. If you listen to his dialogue, he ALWAYS reads and learned knowledge where he can. He was smarter than Solomon by far and in my eyes, knew, maybe not fully, but to an extent, what he was doing.

[oblique trellis]

yeah, well, we all had that experience sadly >.<

[jovial pumice]

Give us a dlc!

Idc if I gotta pay extra for an expansion, just give! I just don’t know how they’d take the players choices into account

[fiery oriole]

Even if he’s not there to see the cure depending on his actions
She doesn’t deserve to be punished for his mistake!

[jovial pumice]

Who’s mistakes?

[fiery oriole]

Seb’s of course XD

[hearty coral]

What he do

[jovial pumice]

What mistake did Seb make which caused her pain?

sighs Hufflepuffs.

[fallen saddle]

Is there anyway to save fig from dying

[jovial pumice]

No.

[fiery oriole]

Oi Slytherin not everyone agrees with unforgivables XD

[jovial pumice]

To you, forgetting to water a plant is counted as “unforgivable.”

sighs Hufflepuffs.

[fiery oriole]

Truly you don’t see how cool we are like Sebastian does!

[fallen saddle]

Rip i didn’t even see the scene where he died

[jovial pumice]

Did you do the evil ending?

[jovial pumice]

Yes. Cool.

Ok.

Oh I’m ordering a wand and a Slytherin pin from the wizarding world. I had to. Don’t call me a geek!

[fiery oriole]

I’d never do that! :3

[hearty coral]

I’m starting to think the hufflepuffs have a big ego now

[fiery oriole]

I’m not brave enough to get merch, I don’t want my friends to know X’D
I do have a Hufflepuff costume for my Build a Bear though

[oblique trellis]

Nice! I will get a Scarf when I am in London in the Studios, hehe

[oblique trellis]

Be confident, girl!! We dont care what others think!!

[jovial pumice]

The wand looks really nice and I can wear the pin while I’m out cause most people won’t see it. Just a little hidden support for my house.

[oblique trellis]

I get it! Thats a really cool idea!

[jovial pumice]

Oh with how I’ve seen some people dress today, between going out in PJ’s or looking like they just rolled out of bed, I doubt some merch on you would draw a side eye lol

I don’t think I’d go around flicking and swishing my wand at people or pretending like I’m riding around on a broomstick. But everything else I’m fine with

[oblique trellis]

True 👏

[fiery oriole]

Oh I know XD I do that too
I wear a plush on my shoulder and even a full cape sometimes
That part don’t bother me XD

[jovial pumice]

Style has gone downhill. What’s wrong with HP style? It’s literally a suit with a robe

[oblique trellis]

Very good!!

[jovial pumice]

HP style, subtracting the robe, is literally how people would read back in the 50s

[oblique trellis]

True. Also, they school uniforms especially in this game are just so classy and elegant, I love it.

[jovial pumice]

I like Gryffindor colors but Slytherin colors are growing on me

[fiery oriole]

I will admit I’m glad I didn’t have a uniform during my school experience XD
I used the plush and cape thing then too, and no one was brave enough to stop me >:3

[jovial pumice]

I actually wish we did uniforms in the US. People really just looked like animals 90% of the time

[fiery oriole]

I did my very best to be an animal! XD

[fallen saddle]

I finished the story todya 🤭🤭

The scene where the teachers spawn before the ranrok boss fight gave me goosebumps

[jovial pumice]

I’m sorry. Now you have to come here and join us in begging for dlc and whining that the story ends too abruptly with too many questions

[fallen saddle]

😭the pain is kicking in already

[jovial pumice]

But yes that part was awesome. Professor Sharpe is my favorite. Now I’m just gonna replay the game as Slytherin with no HUD and hard difficulty

[oblique trellis]

Same in Germany. Thankfully my parents taught me to wear "proper" things in general. I also wish we had uniforms, there wouldnt have been the talk about "who is wearing that and that and who cant afford what"

[fiery oriole]

I know how you feel! It was so cool! ;v;

[jovial pumice]

I regrettably chose Gryffindor because I liked the colors even though I was chosen for Slytherin

[oblique trellis]

That is an amazing idea btw... even though I know I would get lost

[jovial pumice]

That’s the point. Immersion

[fallen saddle]

Damn I played on easy 😭

[oblique trellis]

Yes that was an amazing scene!! Also means that all of them know who we are now :o

[jovial pumice]

Learn the castle, learn the grounds. Look for companions/friends. Might just enhance the experience

[oblique trellis]

True! Will do that on my 3rd playthrough :D

[jovial pumice]

I used Avada in front of Professor Sharpe and he was cool with it!

Sharpe was Slytherin right?

[oblique trellis]

He is like: That kid is going places, but okay :D

[oblique trellis]

Hell yeah

[jovial pumice]

I’m sorry Slytherin beats all the other houses.

[fallen saddle]

Fr 😭I wanted to yell in the great hall “I am hero I saved all of you now can I have a bunch of side chicks” and then I watched the women roll in… can’t even happen in a game 😔

[fiery oriole]

With me only liking 3 Slytherin

No it doesn’t XD

[jovial pumice]

You wanna duel!?

[fiery oriole]

Sure! I’ve gotten plenty of practice beating Merula to a pulp!

[jovial pumice]

You’ll need to use a wand and not a plant

[oblique trellis]

I just like that people get a different view on Slytherin. No, they are not all evil. sigh

[fiery oriole]

Jokes on you I’m a Magizoologist, not a Herbologist

I don’t have much of a green thumb

[oblique trellis]

Dude, meeanwhile we girls are crushing in Seb and he is not even in the end scene lmao! I feel ya

[fallen saddle]

Hot take - snape was the best character in all of Harry Potter

[jovial pumice]

That’s why I like the games too. Slytherin is the most diverse house as far as students characteristics and qualities. Look at Malfoy, then look at Ominis. Gryffindor is known to have the bullies, Leander is one

[fiery oriole]

Thank you for validating me XD

[oblique trellis]

Thats no hot take, thats a fact :D

[fallen saddle]

😭I don’t get what’s so special about Seb and ominis all I need is a professor garlikck dlc

[jovial pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/snape-severus-harry-potter-dumbledore-gif-14614598

[runic tundra]

Slytherin in this game is actually characterized around the house's intent, filled with ambtious wizards/witches

[oblique trellis]

Gryffindors can also be very arrogant. I think you also encounter a few very unpleasent Hufflepuffs. It gives diversity and thats good

[runic tundra]

I read the most a-hole racist student in the game is a Hufflepuff

[fiery oriole]

Yeah Hufflepuff’s can be racist just like anyone XDDDD

[oblique trellis]

Yes, finally! What it also really is, not just bullies and mean people.

[jovial pumice]

There is never “good” or “bad” in my book. Save for some demon children that are just born evil like the little runts that they are.

[fallen saddle]

I’m a hufflepuff… but I chose grryffidnor I’m sorry

[oblique trellis]

Couldnt agree more.

[fiery oriole]

Whatever works for you Gryffinpuff! XD

[runic tundra]

Prejudice in the books is from all houses. And that doesn't help when it comes to decent people in Slytherin. It alienates new students who go there and pushes them into the hands of the dark/racist syltherins causing more problems

[oblique trellis]

No problem, dude. I also always get sorted into Gryffindor but feel drawn to Slytherin ^^

[fallen saddle]

Damn 😭I wanna be a slytherin so bad

[runic tundra]

Like who was it in book who said there isnt a witch or wizard in slytherin who didn't go bad later? Hagrid? Prejudice right there. Also factually wrong.

[oblique trellis]

Well... I dont really get what the fuss is about garlick :D Also, she is into witches ;D

[jovial pumice]

I get sorted into Slytherin but liked Gryffindors colors. That’s changing however when I learn more about the houses. Never really watched or read the books before Hogwarts Legacy. Now I know a fair amount of the lore and Slytherin is the way to go

[fiery oriole]

I don’t know she’s wholesome! I feel the same way about her as Professor Sprout, they have good vibes :3

[oblique trellis]

I dont know but it is literally wrong. Leta Lestrange wasnt evil, Professor Ronan is from Slytherin, as is Professor Kogawa and Sharpe, all good people

[runic tundra]

Hmm

[hollow wraith]

I'm so sad that we can't keep the snidgets 😭

[oblique trellis]

Oh yeah, I also like her very much! Its just that I dont have that perspective on her from guys I guess :D

[fiery oriole]

Guess so! XD

[fallen saddle]

NOOOOO😔☹️

[runic tundra]

Alas unless HL goes full on alt universe then things are just gonna go downhill from here

The absorb ending probably wont end well for anyone if that one was followed up on

[oblique trellis]

I am so torn between Gryffindor and Slytherin, like a mix between them, I just feel more at home in Slytherin somehow, in Gryffindor they are all so freaking arrogant and goofy (dont get me wrong, I also like Gryffindor a lot but yeah..) ^^

[jovial pumice]

Team Slytherin!

[oblique trellis]

Hell yeah!

[fiery oriole]

Who's everyone's favorite side mission? Mines the Goblin with the Mooncalf named Patches

I can't stop thinking about them XD

[oblique trellis]

wasnt it Biscuit? ^^

[fiery oriole]

BISCUIT
I named on Patches XDDDD

[runic tundra]

Well they are the most vocal in opposing Slytherin. Like yah they ain't into blood purity or extremism in general but they treat all syltherins in same vein basicaly which is alos prejudiced

[oblique trellis]

Hahaha NICE

[runic tundra]

HL things aren't as bad between the houses.

[oblique trellis]

True words have been spoken!

[runic tundra]

Seems it really kicked in by LVs time is when things went bad

[oblique trellis]

Yeah, I guess! Which is sad!

[fallen saddle]

Fr Snape was always a mood

[oblique trellis]

Like I watched a streamer play HL and at the part in the restricted section when you get caught by Peeves she chose to say to Seb "I dont trust you" And when he said why would he snitch on her the Streamer said "Well, you are a Slytherin, dude" And I was so called out man. Like, they are not all evil. Like Harry said in the end, its okay if you got sorted into Slytherin. Heck, he would have been sorted into Slytherin but said "Not Slytherin" and the Hat respected his wish, like always.

[fallen saddle]

The first unicorn I caught was golden 🤭

[fallen saddle]

Frrrr

[oblique trellis]

DUDE! I didnt even see one shiny unicorn!! Thats huge!

[fallen saddle]

I was doing the um unicorn quest and before I could get to hazel the unicorn I got destraicted by the golden one and it took me 30 mins of chasing to realise I could use disellusionemtn 😭worth it tho

[fiery oriole]

I named my Unicorn Bella Sara because it's funny
Enjoy the nostalgia trip

[fallen saddle]

My characters name is ‘Stinky wisslebottom’ and my mom is concerned like fr for the name I gave my character 😭she plays the game too on story mode

[fiery oriole]

Oh cool!
Mine's named Laura Clarke because I used a British name Generator XDDDDD

[midnight torrent]

wait is sebastian really not in the endcutscene when you celebrate a slytherin win even if you dont turn him in?

[fallen saddle]

😭I should have thought of that

[oblique trellis]

I also searched for British last names :D

[fallen saddle]

He’s not sadly

[fallen saddle]

Iono

[midnight torrent]

i named my hufflepuff, Rizzy Wizzy, and my new slytherin is Delores Umbridge

[oblique trellis]

He is not if you finished his side quest story, but apparently I heard people say he is there if you didnt finish it

[midnight torrent]

everyone will hate her by school's end cutscene

[fallen saddle]

She a insert Nono word

[fallen saddle]

I’d rather finish it with AVADA KECAPYBARA makes the trolls less annoying

[midnight torrent]

in my game she will be the chosen one, and wield unbelievable unyielding ancient power

[fallen saddle]

I’m sorry we can’t be friends

[fallen saddle]

Oh that’s interesting wish people would show the cutscene so we know if it’s true or not

[runic tundra]

Anyone see the LV mod. Funny indeed

[fallen saddle]

We don’t talk about mods

[midnight torrent]

She does not fear the dark side as you do. She will bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to her new empire!

[runic tundra]

ok. I forgot this is story section

[fallen saddle]

It’s against the eula and u can get in big bad trouble buddy

[midnight torrent]

A new ministry

[fallen saddle]

She will make me cry

[runic tundra]

You will restore peace and justice to the Wizarding World

I wish we got to duel Ranrok proper before he does his dragon transform thing. Also i wish we got to fight an actual dragon proper though I wouldn't wanna hurt it.

Also that would probably be a case of it one hit kills you since its a dragon

[fiery oriole]

Dragons are friends though! XD

[runic tundra]

I mean we only got spared cos we helped it escape and returned the egg. Otherwise we dead

[fallen saddle]

Does anyone miss snape cause I have a solution

Ik I do https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYP8jbdX/

[stable edge]

once you do the cerimony can you canntinue to play the game?

[warm barn]

House Cup?
Yes

[stable edge]

yeah that onne , i'm finishingn all the side quests to upgrade level i'm 28 now

[warm barn]

Yea you can continue afterwards
Was confused at first too but decided to go for it anyway

[stable edge]

the lockers gets very annoying

[fallen saddle]

Yes

Thought i was gonna be able to use the powers to and can’t even do that😭

[jovial pumice]

I heard the evil ending doesn’t explain what happened to fig.

[deep cypress]

I think you’re supposed to just assume he died from the rocks falling on him as Ranrok attacks.

It’s just in the hood ending he survives long enough to help you before succumbing to his injuries

[mint musk]

If they do a sequel, it would be 👀 if he’s alive and comes back to stop you if you picked the evil ending

[ebon cedar]

did anyone else get the playstation5 deluxe edition? What did you think about the shop quest with the mannequins?

[icy galleon]

I did not get the PlayStation 5 Deluxe Edition, but I thought the shop quest with the mannequins was interesting. It was a little creepy, but it was also a lot of fun.

[ebon cedar]

It gave me fnaf vibes. ngl, I was spooked because I wasn't prepared. lol

[icy galleon]

It's totally understandable that you felt fnaf vibes from the situation! It can be really spooky when you're not expecting it. Hopefully next time you'll be better prepared!

[ebon cedar]

I do wish they'd let us decorate the store like Room of requirement.

[runic tundra]

best quest in the game i think is haunted house from mechanics to magic use and atmosphere

[ebon cedar]

I wish all consoles could experience it. It definitely is one to enjoy

[runic tundra]

its only timed exclusive so they will

[ebon cedar]

you think it will be DLC in the future?

[heavy oracle]

I finally got the "true" ending! i'm sad sebastian wasn't in any cutscenes even though I didn't turn him in

ominis looked so sad :(

they couldn't have made an alternate cutscene with him in it?

[deep cypress]

Yeah I wish they did too. Would have been loads better. They even show Poppy and Natty pass us by and wave but no Seb or Ominis aside from that brief shot of him looking sad, even though they both had a far larger role and far more complex and nuanced story.

[heavy oracle]

I need a sebastian redemption arc in either a sequel or dlc 🙏

[deep cypress]

This

And more building of Ominis friendship, because despite not being one of the “companions” he’s way more of a natural friendship than Poppy and Natty imo.

With him and Seb the friendship felt earned. Ominis doesn’t like you at first but he starts to ease up and even trusts you enough to request help via owl.

Seb, Ominis and MC are my new main trio lol I just think they all work great together and their friendship feels earned and genuine

[slate ravine]

if it were up to me, I would probably scrap Ominis completely and give his role to a different character

[heavy oracle]

YES! i say we riot to Avalanche and WB /hj

[heavy oracle]

why?

[slate ravine]

Nothing against Ominis himself, I think he is a good enough character... but I do think his role as "Sebastian's conscience" could have been given to a different character, and that way make the companion characters more connected to each other

[jovial pumice]

I liked Ominis very much as a characters so I’m gonna have to say… No.

The fact he was blind and able to hold his own against Inferi was pretty cool ngl. I liked his unwillingness to fight/use dark arts, but when it came down to it, he was quite a badass.

[deep cypress]

100% agree.

Seb kind of went against the grain of a Slytherin, wanting to use the Dark Arts to help Anne but he kind of lost himself to the fantasy of it and toed that line of a slytherin stereotype. He even had a strong hatred of all goblins for a supposed slight.

Ominis went against it entirely. He didn’t hold the sane blood purity beliefs as his family and hated the Dark Arts because he knew first hand what they’re like. I found him really interesting and the fact he’s blind but still hood his own and still has his independence is just fantastic for someone who’s journey into vision loss is only relatively recent, starting 4 years ago but coming to a head only last year with additional vision loss.

Maybe I’m biased, but he was the kind of character I needed to remind me that what I’m lacking doesn’t define or control me unless I allow it to.

[icy galleon]

I think it's really cool that he was able to hold his own against the Inferi, despite being blind. I like that he was unwilling to fight or use dark arts, but when it came down to it, he was still able to be a badass.

[slate ravine]

I don't disagree with anything you guys wrote... Maybe I should start over.

I think the "friends" characters (I would consider Naty, Poppy, and Sebastian to be the friend characters in this game) have tons of wasted potential as a system. I also think Sebastian's story, while overall being pretty good, also has tons of wasted potential. I think a good solution would be to create more consequences for choices in his story. So far I'm sure I didn't say anything too controversial.

Now I think the way they should have handled it is to make us actually choose between Sebastian and another character. It could have been Ominis but I honestly think it would have been better if it was one of the other characters. But I generally think it was really weird that the friend characters didn't interact and barely even mentioned each other. It was really missing for me. I wanted the trio feeling and from hanging out with Sebastian and Ominis I didn't really get it, and I suspect it's because other than being Sebastian's conscience, Ominis doesn't really have a role in the story. So either give him a bigger role or give his role to a different character. But honestly I think this character has potential so maybe a bigger role is the way

[jovial pumice]

I just think we need dlc specific chapters. Like one for Seb, one for Natty and one for Poppy

Maybe even for some of the more minor characters like Gareth and Leander.

Mostly Seb though. Story was too intriguing to just give up on.

[chrome forge]

I was so disappointed how anticlimatic the killing of isadora was.
But then cried the whole ending of defeating Ranrok. Now I wish I wouldn't have turned Sebastian in lol

[ember scaffold]

you gave up sebastian?? sheesh

[icy galleon]

I can understand why you might feel disappointed – after all, Isadora was a key part of the game's story. However, I think that the game's developers were trying to make a point about the futility of violence. By having Isadora's death be so anticlimactic, they were trying to show that even when you think you're doing the right thing, it doesn't always turn out the way you wanted.

[ebon cedar]

I did want a little more indepth about her and the portrait because the character has like a moment but Seb rushes them off it.

I get how she died but that didn't stop others from showing up in their portraits, iirc, in other wizarding world material

[jovial pumice]

If you turned Sebastian in you’re just a nasty fellow. (In game of course)

The dude literally takes you under his wing and teaches you everything, then some people betray him when he needs his friend most. Bummer.

[jovial pumice]

I actually liked how they did Isadora. It’s a tragic story if you think about it. She genuinely thought she was doing good but was actually harming everyone she came across.

[vital gate]

The road to hell is paved with good intentions

[midnight anchor]

so sad isadora was easily killed that way, wish she can be more "goodly evil" before she's dead

[regal crater]

How I can succesfully complete at hiding quest at normal or hard mode? I always failed when enemy turn their head..

It makes ne annoyed and I always active story mode. Then forget I want to kill enemy in normal mode. Jezz..

[midnight anchor]

use your basic spell to your opposite direction to distract the enemy

[chrome forge]

I agree. I was like DANG he just killed her and poof that was it.

I will say the last 2 trials the the finally repository were extremely easy lol

[mental pilot]

I was sure that Isadora was gonna kill at least Niamh. But I appreciated the anticlimactic Avada

[chrome forge]

I thought so too

[midnight anchor]

the deathly hallow trial is easy, no need for puzzle. I only think it's just for fan service

[chrome forge]

Agree!

[runic tundra]

You know what would have been cool for a dark arts run, controlling inferi or making them. Also fighting dementors would be cool

[runic tundra]

I thought the change for 3rd trial was dope. Thats a cool way to implement the Hallows without causing any issues with the lore and do some cool visuals aswell. I just wish i could get the wand in the main game or as a bonus unlock just for the power buff in combat.

[midnight anchor]

imo if the MC could have the elder wand, it could impact the role greatly

[mossy hedge]

I invested 3 talent points in the Stealth tree ... the top 3 talents. Makes it harder for enemies to spot you and you can move quicker while you are under the Disillusion charm, too.

But also, yes, blast a basic attack in the direction you want to distract them

[fiery oriole]

I played Persona 5 Royal right before starting so I did mostly sneaking XDDD So I maxed out stealth

It was fun to catch them by surprise

Besides the ones that Don't see me get to live because the petrify spell we use isn't deadly (we see Newt use it in his first movie and that guy's fine XD, and Hermonie uses it on Neville at some point XD)

[regal crater]

Thank you I will try to distract them and use R2

[regal crater]

I already invest all my tallent and when they face me they will notice me 😔

Maybe I should more patient at waiting enemy

[mossy hedge]

Yes, you need to be a little patient until they turn away

Are you facing problems in a particular mission or generally?

[sinful umbra]

Do you think a Hufflepuff would turn in Sebastian after he kills his uncle? And what choice do you think a Hufflepuff would make at the ending?

[slate ravine]

I was a Hufflepuff and I feel like I did all the evil choices

[noble raven]

I got put in slytherin, got the first 2 unforgivable curses and than for some reason said no to Avada Kadavra, had to make a new acc 😭

[slate ravine]

The problem is that it really doesn't matter much

I Avada Kedavraed everything

Ah so you are a big bad dark wizard Rookwood? Avada Kedavra!!!!

[noble raven]

I’m kinda confused on the magic or power I got from defeating ranrok, I feel like I’m doing the same exact amount of damage as before.. lol

[slate ravine]

You do

Like I said, choices really don't matter

[noble raven]

Hm

[vapid orbit]

hufflepuffs are known for their loyalty so I think they wouldn't, but it also depends on the person

personally no matter which house I choose I would never turn Sebastian in, it just doesn't feel right for me to betray him when he needs us the most

[slate ravine]

Also very hypocritical with all the Avada Kedavra I'm throwing around

[vagrant warren]

-“Honey! There’s a tiny spider on the counter, can you help!?”
-“AVADA KEDAVRA!!!!”
-“Right… thanks, honey 😳”

[fickle nymph]

with all the confringo and diffindo I'm casually flinging around to break every single object that is breakable that dares come across my vision, plus trying to set people's clothing on fire for fun, I think Im on the amoral side

[slate ravine]

That's fine, what about "honey! The kids are bickering again! Do something!
-Avada Kedavra!"

[mental pilot]

Hopefully that was aimed at another spider or a warning shot

[jovial pumice]

This is why I wish I had magical powers

[mental pilot]

There needs to be some mass bug killing spell too.

[deep cypress]

Any powerful enough destruction shell could do that.

Like whatever one Pettigrew used to frame Sirius. It’s killed 15 muggles and destroyed half a building

[mental pilot]

Yeah, I just don’t want to accidentally kill 15 people

[hearty coral]

BOMBARDA

[vagrant warren]

Oh dear lord, I think having the spider live with the family would be better in the end lmao

[reef nymph]

Hi! If i do the unforgivable curses quest line, can I have the good ending? Or learning the killing curse only leads me to evil ending?

[hearty coral]

Either

[runic tundra]

Probably a very ppwerful bombarda.

I feel like GG used the same spell to kill those Aurors in beginning of FB1

[distant lintel]

The curses have no affect on the story

[reef nymph]

Thank u!

[lucid tiger]

The only difference I’ve seen is in poacher and ashwinder dialogue now saying things like, “It’s the Student who uses unforgivables!”

[north quarry]

how long does it take for the avada kedavra spell to finish its cooldown i forgot

[thorn robin]

When fig died I couldn’t stop laughing

💯

[runic tundra]

60 seconds i think

[jovial pumice]

It’s more of a reaction than any of the professors give

[placid coral]

If you didnt send him to azkaban you can still get it

[jovial pumice]

If you sent him to Azkaban, you have problems

[placid coral]

Exactly

[jovial pumice]

I actually love seeing everyone get angry they can’t learn Avada after they turn him in lol. Karma.

[runic tundra]

They were told you can only learn them from him so I dunno why

Its pre-game release info

[jovial pumice]

There’s more to turning him in than just a curse though

[lucid tiger]

Yeah, think I performed the Cruciatus Curse infront of Sharp (of all professors) and he didnt even bat an eye.

[lucid tiger]

I am doing a Hufflepuff Playthrough where I am doing the same difficulty, but I will not get any Dark Art Traits or spells to make it more difficult on myself. Mainly doing it so I can customize a second wand! Lol

[jovial pumice]

I’m sure Sharp would look the other way though either way

[jovial pumice]

I don’t think I’ll ever be a Hufflepuff

[lucid tiger]

Maybe, but he is an Ex-Auror so it used to be his job to track down Unforgivable users.

[jovial pumice]

Many are known to use unforgivables themselves, like Sebastian’s Uncle

[lucid tiger]

I have Hufflepuff Tendencies, but people see how I play Pokemon, Monopoly, my RoR setup, and other approaches to board games and they realize why I am a Slytherin.

[jovial pumice]

I just have every trait of a Slytherin and got Slytherin after taking the quiz in the website

[lucid tiger]

Which is true, but their logic is as Aurors, you may need to use dark magic to defeat dark magic users. But it is what it is!

[jovial pumice]

I must say… I may have even purchased a wand and a Slytherin pin yesterday from the website… I’m not a geek…

[lucid tiger]

Ive gotten Slytherin both times on the official sites, and 90 of fan quizzes.

[jovial pumice]

I figured I can wear the pin while I’m out without drawing much attention.

[lucid tiger]

If anyone doubts my nerd card, I show them my Lucius Malfoy walking stick.

[jovial pumice]

Can I see in dms? Lucius is one of my favorite characters

If I were an “older” wizard in the HP universe, I’d keep my wand in a walking stick

[lucid tiger]

I can get a picture when I get home from work, it is currently in my pile of different swords, lol

[jovial pumice]

Yea if you remember send it over. I love that thing

[lucid tiger]

I would as well, my OC ive designed for the universe actually uses two wands simultaneously, His Holly wand for Defense, and his Aspen Wand for Silent Casting Offense.

[jovial pumice]

I’m still waiting for my wand and pin, just ordered it yesterday

[fiery oriole]

Ah yes, duel wielding XD

[jovial pumice]

Slytherin themed wand of course!

[jovial pumice]

Ah yes. Plant wielders!

[lucid tiger]

Nice! My favorite thing in my HP collection is actually the patch of the Slytherin House from Cursed Child, plan on getting a second set of robes from Universal, removing the movie patch and adding the Cursed Child one.

[fiery oriole]

I get That’s like- our thing but I also barely used the plants until the end XD