🙎┃character-guides

[kind ginkgo]

at the beginning it's the most important thing

a good hint would be to try and forget about the possibility of parrying 👍

just try dodging everything

[broken hound]

Thank you ive veen trying to look for a game to play with my limited time after hw

[kind ginkgo]

maybe it can help putting a few glyphs in the stamina branch to begin with; it can be really helpful when you dont really know stamina management

[kind ginkgo]

w?

hw*

[broken hound]

And i found this game really fun

[kind ginkgo]

it is, definitely 👍

[broken hound]

Im 16

I have hw

[kind ginkgo]

only issue is that especially in the begiinning there is a steep learning curve; so dont geti discouraged if things dont work out immediately

eventually i can also recommend joining our weekly dojos, they can be helpful #🏋┃dojo-coaching

[kind ginkgo]

what is hw? 😅

i'm not always up to date with english abbreviations 😅

[broken hound]

Homework

Assignments

[kind ginkgo]

oh, i see 💡

[broken hound]

Weekly dojoes sound interesting

[kind ginkgo]

they are really helpful 👍

if you got time i recommend them

[cobalt needle]

Can i get a guide for valda please? I use to main her but havnt played her in ages and she has gone through many changers thanks

[empty swallow]

he's not

just use 2nd abilities

[kind ginkgo]

valda is pretty much the same as before, dw; only difference is that her f1 is now f1 and f2 at the same time, you cast the old f2 by charging the f1. v1 is the same overall, and v2 is the old spear ult (most usefulin solos)

👍

hence there isnt really an updated guide on valda i reckon

[cobalt needle]

But they got rid of her v2 so i just run v1 now?

And im guessing f1 is better then f2 combo break?

[kind ginkgo]

depends

f2 is still insanely reliable

f1 i prefer, but it's slow animation, so you gotta play by predicting things, instread of reacting

but with f2 you can super armor any attack in the game; even zai ult, kylin ult, hadi,...

and if you are good you can stun them after with the bubbles, if you position them well

[cobalt needle]

So you cant extand combos with f1 anymore?

Also what are some team comps that run valda and is valda viable atm?

[kind ginkgo]

you most definitely can

[kind ginkgo]

verything with valda viper

she can also play a solid position 2 eventually

[kind ginkgo]

here an example

[cobalt needle]

Okay so she can play in any team comp that runs viper?

And she is best played in position2?

[kind ginkgo]

i would say that she is best in position 2 yeah

she can peel pretty decently; she's solid tanky, depending on what you do, and she got some additional cc

but if you paly her with viper, you need to have v1 instead of v2

to just keep people in place and stun themn

[cobalt needle]

So if running viper and valda who should be played in position 3?

[kind ginkgo]

depends on what you need

i would recommend maybe wuchen?

it would be a weaker version of the viper, tessa, wuchen comp

but it should still work

[cobalt needle]

I get the feeling v1 is best in duo/trio anyway

[kind ginkgo]

depends

[cobalt needle]

Ok

[kind ginkgo]

i prefer playing v2 when i know my team cant coordinate

since v1 doesnt deal dmg, and after the 1st spear all fall to the ground

so if i dont have anything that could follow that ult, i simply take the other, get more tankyness and can stun / peel more

[cobalt needle]

Ok i remember v2 use to make valda very tank giving her like a second health bar and dosnt anymore

It works anyway cause my friend i usually play with is a viper/metari main but mostly just playes viper

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[cobalt needle]

What abput gly0s what should i run on valda?

[kind ginkgo]

i suggest checking the pinned comments 👍

there is a comprehensive guide for glyphs builds 👍

[empty swallow]

temulch can do this too yes?

[kind ginkgo]

yes, but you would need to have your f already active 🤔

[cobalt needle]

I seen that persons vids watched both but i dont recall a mention of glyphs on valda

[kind ginkgo]

valda glyphs are the same as most characters

[cobalt needle]

So top path red all the way and green path top all the way?

[kind ginkgo]

yep 👍

grapple and rage

[cobalt needle]

Ok ty

[kind ginkgo]

np

glad to have been of help 👍

[cobalt needle]

Can i dm you a question just not sure where to ask it and its not a charactor guide question

[kind ginkgo]

Sure

[cobalt needle]

Ok thanks i dm you

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[slow hull]

basic combo grapple still useable ?

[kind ginkgo]

Yes 👍

After recent update it also works on spear

[slow hull]

i cant combo with heng sword

miss blue

btw im newbie

[kind ginkgo]

Try and record it; then send the clip in #🔱┃weapons-combat 👍

I'll see what I can do to help

My guess without seeing anything is that you are holding too late and for too long, and probably your grapple input is also a bit too slow

[lost dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[kind ginkgo]

[rich urchin]

[low raven]

Are there any Halloween event/content on this game?

[lost dagger]

Yes. Pumpkins, ghosts, zombies, etc. I'm not sure when the event will be tho

But they do it every year

[low raven]

Do we get Halloween skins as well?

I want to play more this game

[lost dagger]

Yes

Last year we got pumpkin head accessories

And other stuff

[olive sun]

is it normal that Viper V3 will just shut down Yoto V?

[slate sierra]

Viper V3 doesn’t cancel other characters ults that have already been activated but it can interrupt using those ults to the fullest of their abilities. For example, if I’m playing V2 Valda and I ult but then get silenced, I still have my extra HP from ulting but I can’t throw water spears while silenced

Yoto slashes are just done with horizontal/vertical attack buttons tho so I doubt it would impact her ult in that way

[olive sun]

so why is this happens

i can't do anything, can't lmb can't rmb, and my ult just... turned off

[slate sierra]

I have no idea sorry, might just be a naraka moment where shit broke for no good reason 🤷‍♀️

[sturdy holly]

I think that is not supposed to happen, yoto atleast should be able to use Slash not sure of lmb though but it should be usable too.
Afaik ult skills would be banned like shayol shield, takeda furans , etc but yoto should be fine

[scarlet dew]

it happens when u click while silenced with yoto ult. im pretty sure its a bug but ye, dont click when silenced

[olive sun]

ig i shouldn't even bother reporting this bug since they'll just ignore it anyway

the old auto weapon swap bug that cancel her V has been there for ages

Zai, Hadi, Kylin all got their own weapon when active V so it won't happens to them

but for whatever reason Yoto have to suffer

[kind ginkgo]

Does not lose anything to report 🤷🏻‍♂️

[olive sun]

waste of time

[kind ginkgo]

I feel like you are always too negative my friend 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

[olive sun]

yeah i like being negative

[wraith cargo]

which parts of Lyam V are usable under control? The first activation or also the parts when you use your f under ult effect?

Bc that would give Lyam like 4 combo breakers

[olive sun]

only the first activation

[wraith cargo]

the other two will be softcombo breakers?

[olive sun]

you can't do the teleport and knockup even if you got staggered

uhhh no

let's say lyam ult got 3 diff actions
1: activation (press V when your rage is full): can't use under attack, is a soft combo breaker
2: fire the blade: can use under attack and under control, but can't if you're silenced
3: teleport to the blade location, knock up enemies, dealing damages and heals yourself: can't use under attack

[wraith cargo]

thank you!

[olive sun]

also action number 2 is just like furen

so you can do this

[still gazelle]

I'm genuinely curious how people feel about the Kylin + Kurumi combos I've been seeing a lot. Kylin's ult immortality is kinda dumb already without the full heal. Seems like either you jump them while their ults are down or they just have stupid survivability.

If there's a good shutdown for it I'd love to know. They're pretty annoying to fight, especially if they have ping advantage.

[kind ginkgo]

It's broken; kylin is. He's getting enrfed next patch 👍👍

[still gazelle]

Well, good to know I'm not alone on that!
Next patch when? lul

[kind ginkgo]

In about a week and a half? Maybe a bit more?

As soon as I know for sure I'll tell you

But around a week since we got some leaks

[still gazelle]

oh, that's great! I didn't expect it to be that soon, really. thanks for letting me know!
(and in general being helpful and cool, cuz... oof, ppl. reddit community especially... )

[kind ginkgo]

DW, this disc community is here to help you 👍👍

If you got any questions about the game, we're here 👍👍

(or if you want to also chat; #💬┃general-chat is always pretty lively)

[still gazelle]

I appreciate it!
That character combo has really been the nuisance, tho. I kinda feel like Kurumi's heals could stand to be tuned down as well.

[slate sierra]

kylin is just an abomination

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Skynyx leveled up!

[kind ginkgo]

The worse is: Kylin, Hadi, ziping

Cuz kurumi heals less

Or less hp at least, and she is static

While zip does not need to follow kylin

[slate sierra]

insane mobility, immortality, cant be staggered really, can still parry so throwing blues doesnt work, cant hold blue anyways cuz he knocks you out

i HATE wombo but tbh its the one thing ive found can kill that comp as long as you catch the hadi, if you dont get hadi good luck xD

[still gazelle]

Yeah, I really feel like there's not much of an answer to him at all, unless you can just jump him while his ult's down, or his partner sucks and lets you shred him 2v1 without letting him move.

[slate sierra]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/iOCaZPAPYY10RgQno?invite=cr-MSx0dEwsMjAxMjY4ODQ0LA

[kind ginkgo]

They are going to reduce his dmg and lower the distance he travels with ult in the next patch

Plus a few other changes

Or so I read in the patch spoiler (translated), so it's prolly still not fully accurate

[still gazelle]

thank the gods

[still gazelle]

I'm curious what the actual numbers are for their heals. it feels like if Kurumi just pops her ult and skill it's just instant 100% recovery for gold armor. I don't see that burst heal with Zip as much, usually the immortality aura.

[kind ginkgo]

Kurumi ult either recovers only hp or only armor, and it's only in the zone

Zip recovers for everyone, but more gradually

And both things

V2 grants a mortal defiance to the team, while v1 more heal

[still gazelle]

ah. so if you damage them into hp the heal doesn't go into armor?
I could swear it has, but maybe there was something else going on that I didn't see.

or it was ping bs

[kind ginkgo]

Depends on the kurumi ult

V1 heals hp, while V2 heals shield

F link heals slowly hp; right click activation can: F1, heal hp; f2 dmg boost; F3 dmg reduction on you and the linked ally

[still gazelle]

ah, so if she pops both, then skill can heal hp and ult can heal shield

I think it's just duos that I've been seeing the kurumis a lot with kylin. pretty much seems like the kurumis just squirrel around for kylins to carry.

[still gazelle]

that 100 to 0 is so ridiculous

[still gazelle]

I haven't really had the chance to mess with Hadi. Is it just the mobility that fits him into that team comp?

[kind ginkgo]

His v1 offers the chance to the team to run from literally anything during any combo if positioned correctly

[slate sierra]

It’s the fact that he can place 2 cubes since placing the first and cancelling his ult immediately afterwards doesn’t consume all his rage

So on top of characters normal combo breakers They also have 2 additional ones

[last notch]

anyone got a yoto potential build for showdown 🙏

[still gazelle]

ahhh, I see. thanks! that's something I couldn't tell from the move description.

[slate sierra]

Yeah it’s a free escape, they can even take the cube while silenced by things like Viper F2/V3 or jades like heartstopper/stanchion etc

[kind ginkgo]

Try In #👾┃showdown 👍👍

Here people are mostly specialized in PvP; pve is less known 😅👍

[last notch]

i see mb

[kind ginkgo]

All good 👍👍

[abstract rain]

Any tips for ziping yin? I have 8 hours in the game

[cerulean echo]

I love Yueshan purely for the gundam skin but is there anything I can actually do in a 1 v 1 where they just grapple above and away?

[olive sun]

nope

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[hollow crypt]

hey i got no charecters in the game yet. what charecter do yall think i should get?

like a op charecter.

[kind ginkgo]

Ziping depends 100% on your neutral play; you need to improve your positioning, movement and hold checking 👍👍

[hollow crypt]

???

[open sluice]

Kylin (newest one) is pretty strong right now. You have really strong ult and combo breaker on F. But expect some nerfs most likely in near future.

[wraith cargo]

you can use your gold focus from F to get easy parries (easier than spacing out and scissor/jump parry in), make use of the dmg reduction from your ult - activate it when you see yourself getting dmg soon like after tessa charm from tessa ult.
If you run the fatal strike negation ult (I think it's V2) in teammodes, activate it when your mates get low and then deactivate it once they are safe. You can often get two ults in one teamfights like this.

[kind ginkgo]

Next patch he's getting huge nerfs

[open sluice]

Good to know. He is menace in good hands right now.
Btw where you get the info about the patch? Couldnt find it online or here.

[kind ginkgo]

Try checking the spoilers channel #1286185822835703889

I got sent a translation of a Chinese leak, but it's not fully accurate atm

[open sluice]

Ty, will look at it

[kind ginkgo]

Np 👍

[hollow crypt]

ty

[hollow crypt]

another question idk what wepons to use

do u have any suggestions?

[kind ginkgo]

I would always say to play what feels the best; eventually you will have to learn all of them. Aside from that; fan, staff, Heng sword, fistblades are stronger than the other weapons 👍

I would recommend playing a bit of longsword and fan tos tart with maybe 🤔

And staff

[hollow crypt]

ty

[river sky]

Guys who is better for trios and 1v1 valda justina or lyam?

[kind ginkgo]

Lyam for 1v1

Valda aswell

And Justina too

Depends on the level you have

Lyam is usually the strongest of the 3, and valda the "weakest"; this might vary tho

Trios I would say valda and Justina of the 3

[glacial berry]

Can the 40% attack buff be snap shotted?

[kind ginkgo]

Wym by snap shotted?

[glacial berry]

like for example say her ability activates and gets the attack buff for a second.Then, within in that second, I use my Yoto hime ult and skill, will the ult and skill deal damage as if having 40% increased attack for their entire duration?

[kind ginkgo]

Only for the time of the buff

Usually that specific skill is never used; the other two variants are way stronger

Especially the dmg reduction

[glacial berry]

i see yea then thats pretty worthless in comparison

[kind ginkgo]

Ye

[chrome cliff]

Important not to onetrick anything, the sooner you learn multiple weapons the better

If you really have to preference, start with katana, it's considered the best practice weapon for beginners because it teaches you many concepts that also apply to other weapons

[chrome cliff]

None of these characters are played in trios particularly much

You see them sometimes, but there are stronger picks

If you like lyam and want something similar that works better in trios, try takeda

[river sky]

Oh

[chrome cliff]

And maybe viper instead of justina/valda, she's a control character more common in trios

[river sky]

Who is the meta in trio rn?

[chrome cliff]

Kylin is the strongest probably

[river sky]

I waa thinking valda cuz of the new skin she was getting

The hidden treasure one

Who else?

My friend plays akos what would be a good team comp with him?

[chrome cliff]

Akos is barely played in trios

[river sky]

Oh ill tell him to switch then

[chrome cliff]

Bur if you want to make him work, put him with viper/wushen or yueshan/feria

[river sky]

Alr

Could you tell me a comp with kurumi?

[chrome cliff]

Zai/matari
Zai/temulch
Tianhai/takeda
Tianhai/temulch
Tianhai/yueshan
Kylin/hadi
Takeda/wuchen

[river sky]

Alr thx

[little cargo]

Only during the time of the buff, funny thing is you can test this yourself with Wuchen V in training, having 2 weapon of 2 different rarity and using his V, swapping the weapon will also change the damage output

[last notch]

what are some good characters for solos?

[olive sun]

not tianhai and yueshan

[last notch]

i play tessa is she good in 1s

[olive sun]

she's ok

[wraith cargo]

lyam, matari, kylin, wuchen

[last notch]

ty

[kind ginkgo]

minus wuchen

wuchen is solid, but not top meta you could say

[trail sky]

hello! does anyone have a good glyph plan for kylin?

[empty swallow]

A good one is full red on the rage/dmg side and full green on the grapple side

[trail sky]

bet, thank you!!

[trail kindle]

Is there a kylin guide

I'm so usless with his ult

[kind ginkgo]

Charge, dash, hit 👍

Pretty straightforward ult tbf

[trail kindle]

Damn which one is better tho

[kind ginkgo]

V2 usually

Just harder because it eats your hp away

[trail kindle]

Thanks i tried playin him but I just suck

I usually play shaylo so it's pretty different

[empty swallow]

use v2 and line up shots to hit multiple people so that you don't drain your own hp

target zai in teamfights, you are a direct counter to her

and remember that a charged dash guarantees 2 uncharged dashes on the same target so long as the terrain doesn't screw you over

and use the invincibility smartly

[crisp heart]

best gylphs for yoto hime?

[kind ginkgo]

I recommend checking the pinned comments 👍👍, we added a glyphs guide there

[elder talon]

Any advices to zai?

Like glyphs and tips

[elder talon]

Okk

[kind ginkgo]

For glyphs I recommend the pinned guide overall 👍

For the zai gameplay I can't really help aadly

[spare aspen]

Does Zai have any combos on her Ultimate ?

[kind ginkgo]

just the basic horizontal into uppercut into air horizontal

[wraith cargo]

plus horizontal into crouch horizontal

[wraith cargo]

generally you want red for rage and leave out skill cdr bc your ult resets your skull cd

so sth like green until first checkpoint (either stamina or grapple speed, however you like it), one point into blue and rest into red

if you feel like it you can also leave out the last point in red tree bc often ppl don't try to fight you in your ult and rather focus on dodging and running away

[plucky pawn]

hi guys, may i ask is there a guide to Tessa's glyphs?

[olive sun]

can go green lower branch if you want waveroll

[zealous finch]

any glyph for takeda, kylin, temulch, viper & wuchen?

[plucky pawn]

thank you !

[kind ginkgo]

Check the pinned comments, there is a comprehensive guide on glyphs 👍👍

[river sky]

What's the solos and trios meta rn after the patch?

[kind ginkgo]

id's say that's hard to determine it this quick

give it a few days / weeks

also it will prolly be modified again when new hero releases in 2 weeks

[river sky]

Oh ok

[mystic hollow]

how do I juggle people with Justina ult? they dont get knockback when i hit them

[kind ginkgo]

Only knock back Justina ult has is when you activate the ult; need to uppercut the enemy, ult while at the apex of the ult, then follow-up with the dash to freeze them as they land

[mystic hollow]

I saw vids of people staggering/knocking people in the air. Could be wrong tho

[olive sun]

there's no knock up on justina kit so they did it with an uppercut

but when the opponent is already in the air you can use her V dashes to juggle them, this is true

i saw some clips long ago, dunno if it's still available though

[empty swallow]

how much would investing into that last rage/dmg taken help zai? is this optimal or is FULL full red better?

[kind ginkgo]

I'd totally remove the left red side personally; that CDR on the skill is juicy 🤔

But it's still good

Full red is never worth overall

[empty swallow]

I get a full reset with the ult so i dont really feel like I need my cooldown reduction

if I gotta combo break 3 times with a golden focus weapon surely I messed up beyond measure lol

[kind ginkgo]

Fair

[wraith cargo]

I prefer to leave out the last red spot and go for the first blue instead

[empty swallow]

that is a horrible decision

[wraith cargo]

why?

[empty swallow]

because you are saying "I prefer to leave out 20% damage reduction on a hero that is constantly in melee range, in the center of the fight, and one of the primary targets"

[wraith cargo]

fair

[empty swallow]

because if we are put in the same scenario, you with blue, me with red, if you die i could survive with 20-30% hp

[wraith cargo]

I mostly play duos and solos atm and prefer to have some more survivability when I don't have ult

[empty swallow]

big difference

oh you mean purple?

blue is luck glyph

purple is shit

[wraith cargo]

oooh

my bad

yeah purple

[empty swallow]

it doesn't apply dmg reduction if the attack interrupts your blue focus

and against multi hits, it only works on the first hit

so like dual blades/halberds it would only reduce dmg of the first focus slash

not the other 10 hits

[wraith cargo]

so it realistically only works on first hit and light atks?

[empty swallow]

and if it hits you out of ur blue state, it won't even apply

yes

it's for the first light attack that hits u during focus

bad

[wraith cargo]

gotcha

[empty swallow]

ur better off running 1st blue glyph for luck even

than that

[wraith cargo]

I just feel like I really rarely get hit in the first 10sec of ult

[empty swallow]

you can choose not to run it

i'm just telling you why i run it

[wraith cargo]

no no, I'm really interested in your opinion.

It just feels like ult activation, then you get like 2 light atks at the very least and that's almost half the time

[empty swallow]

then we have very different experiences

when i ult people try to kill me as fast as possible

[wraith cargo]

so you get the dmg reduction for the first part of enemies combo if you get hit afterwards

[empty swallow]

and hit me with their ults and their CC abilities to stun me and hit me with 5 focus attacks

red glyph just gives full dmg reduction

purple glyph 1st hit of the attack and only if it doesn't interrupt your focus state

[wraith cargo]

you talking about trios specifically or also solos/duos?

[empty swallow]

i dont play solo

i play trio and duo

in solo u might have a different experience than me

[wraith cargo]

gotcha, thanks!

I'll try to run it in trios

[empty swallow]

in trios, besides the healer, you will probably be primary target

so try to always have all enemies in view

so they can't hit you from behind

have all enemies in front of you with your ult

[wraith cargo]

btw do you know by chance whether grappling sb in the air gives a higher bump than grappling the ground after a normal uppercut?@simply.marko

[kind ginkgo]

It does not

[wraith cargo]

ty

[kind ginkgo]

It's just quicker in some situations and it can avoid terrain problems (namely not flat terrain, which normally messes up the bump)

[wraith cargo]

yeah

it just feels easier

like more error room for charging focus but that's also my ping I guess

[kind ginkgo]

It's your fps

[wraith cargo]

makes sense

[kind ginkgo]

You got an insanely high FPS, so combos overall are much easier. Ms impacts less nowadays compared to fps

[wraith cargo]

it's just around 150 usually

[kind ginkgo]

That's high

[empty swallow]

nah

it's same

[kind ginkgo]

Considered that the average player has usually 80 or less in game 🤔

[empty swallow]

it's used to not get screwed by terrain sometimes

[wraith cargo]

not when I play with juhx

[kind ginkgo]

Juhx has 300+

He's a rare case

[wraith cargo]

yup

[kind ginkgo]

But same experience I get when playing against you 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

I'm down 100 fps in customs compared to you

Cuz max I reach now is 90 on a perfect moment, 65-70 in average

[wraith cargo]

in custom it's insane

[kind ginkgo]

150 is high 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

[wraith cargo]

I got 300 fps the other day in custom

[kind ginkgo]

Can do any combo except 3 specific ones

[kind ginkgo]

200+ FPS less then 🤔😂

I feel hopeless now😂😂

[empty swallow]

well custom and game is different

i get like 100-150fps in games

[wraith cargo]

but I think my monitor can only do 240

[kind ginkgo]

Game has more environment to load up 👍

[empty swallow]

and it feels fine enough to play on but it would definitely be much much better if it was 200+

[empty swallow]

that's not how it works

refresh rate and fps are very different things

500fps on 60hz screen is way way better than 60 fps on the same screen

of course it's much better on 500hz screen or 240hz screen, but 500fps is 500fps

it is faster and better

so let your fps go as high as possible

you want 999999999999fps ideally

[kind ginkgo]

FPS impact Naraka animations and make them faster by a lot, so even if the screen does not keep up, they will still be faster

[empty swallow]

even in other games

[kind ginkgo]

Just the animation speed itself

[empty swallow]

it's just faster and better

[wraith cargo]

ty

[empty swallow]

like if you play cs and you get like 800 fps

even on your 240hz don't cap it to 240, let it go to 800, it's going to feel better than 240

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnY1S-9s2r4

For context

[wraith cargo]

it was horrible in league, I had tons of fps drops and that was when I spend around 1k for a new pc

[empty swallow]

heard the same from friend

high end pc and league lags for some reason

[wraith cargo]

but are 80fps really the standard for pc gamers? that sounds really low

[empty swallow]

standard depends on ur budget and experience

if u can run only 60-80 ur standard is 60-80fps

for some ppl standard is 200fps minimum

[kind ginkgo]

I got a bad one and my FPS is way higher and no lag 🤔 (got 170 on league)

[empty swallow]

and it also depends on the game

in cs/val 150fps feels horrible

i want at least 300

in naraka 150 feels fine because im used to that

[kind ginkgo]

I guess

[empty swallow]

but bottom line

make it as high as possible

u can never have too much/enough fps

[kind ginkgo]

Ye

[wraith cargo]

it makes sense, I also have lower ping in lol than naraka for some reason. Is ping also game dependent?

[empty swallow]

of course

[wraith cargo]

F

[empty swallow]

each game has servers set up in different places in the world

[wraith cargo]

both are in Frankfurt I think

[empty swallow]

could be different spots in frankfurt

[wraith cargo]

that would actually make sense

[empty swallow]

for ping there are 2 things u can do

1. get the best ISP

2. move closer to the server

1st just makes sure the only factor is distance, 2nd takes care of the distance

some ppl who live close to servers have 5ms

it's like lan gameplay to them

[wraith cargo]

I have 7 to 9in lol, it's rly great

but still 15 to 20 in naraka

[empty swallow]

that's really good ping

my lowest ping is in CS, 15ms

feels worlds different compared to valorant 40ms

if you had 7ms you'd feel a huge difference compared to 15-20ms i bet

people think "its just 8-10ms difference its not much" but the lower you go the bigger the difference gets for small increments

5ms and 15ms could feel like a whole different game if you know what to look for

but ur ping is great so dw about it

[kind ginkgo]

I got 9 once in valorant

But only momentarily

[steady radish]

what are justina gu's recommended abilities

[kind ginkgo]

F2 v1 generally

[steady radish]

ty

wait for beginners tho?

[worn spindle]

yh

there are many v1 guides out there

[steady radish]

ok

[empty swallow]

justina is not for beginners i'd say

but f2 v1 yes

[empty swallow]

however don't let this fact discourage you, if you think she's cool there's nothing wrong with learning the game through her

[kind ginkgo]

I second that 👍👍

U will eventually learn how she works

And if you have any questions at all, don't hesitate to ask

[woven hearth]

I will never get her dashes.......I just play v3 TwT

[crisp heart]

justina gu or water girl

which one better

?

[lost dagger]

They are both pretty solid characters but kind of hard to use. Justina maybe better in more situations but really just play whoever you find the most fun

[rotund field]

Depends Justina is harder, Valda is overall easier and more meta

Def in solos valda > Justina I could see use in team play but she’s just a harder character

[chrome cliff]

Justina actually got dumbed down to the point where I'd say she is pretty easy to play, her dash cancels have an insane magnet that cause beginners to win neutral a lot when fighting other beginners, even if they miss the freeze

And historically in tournaments you'd see a lot more Justina than valda

For valda there are some toxic playstyles, I think there is something wrong with excessively zoning with f1 but also when combining valda with burn, or playing f2 valda with swap and getting a combo from losing neutral

Both are playable in Solos but not picked that often in trios

In trios there are other characters with ults that aren't countered as hard by most enemy ults and better CCs

[rotund field]

That’s because they haven’t played any games besides the last tourney with Valda

With the Valda buff people will actually pick her frequently I assume unlike Justina where she is just an odd niche pick

Valda is really good right now and easy to use and very forgiving with the HP in ult

[kindred pivot]

Hi, I just got back to this game.. is the new hero kylin zhang beginner friendly?

[worn spindle]

yh easy character to play

[hollow crypt]

I'm glad y'all are so happy and supportive 🤗

[opal depot]

justina still generally feels stronger

[kind ginkgo]

he is playable without any worries 👍 . the last patch hurt him quite a lot, but he still remains a powerhouse 👍

just beware of your hp when you use v2, and you should be aight

[next kite]

Hey all , i came back to the game but i feel like my main became weaker than before did they nerf some of them?
I play with yoto hime

[kind ginkgo]

how much time ago did you play yoto hime?

she's overall not bad, but i reckon she got nerfs a little but over a year and a half ago 🤔

plus the meta shifted and simply other things for released stronger or got buffed, so she's mid tier atm

and somewhat low mid tier for solos, because her ult does not work well for that

[next kite]

Like since it came out on console lol

[kind ginkgo]

then she got nerfed

her ult was too strong on release

and her skills also got a bit tuned down and modified

[next kite]

Oh i see , well that’s too bad

Seems i gotta start looking for a new main

[kind ginkgo]

she's still strong tho, not the strongest just

i enjoy playing yoto

baseline it is always the neutral that decides how the fight goes in any case 👍

just that some heroes have tools to skip it now

[next kite]

Even this new preparation thing is weird

The glyphs system was better

[kind ginkgo]

this one here is better, by far

check the pinned comments for a guide 👍

we got a really nice oen on that

[next kite]

Just checked that but nothing about yoto lmao , only a general preparation for all the characters, then some with different ones to go with their skills , but yoto got abandoned as it seems she’s no longer special

[kind ginkgo]

it's a general guide

on how to build glyphs in general

it's not hard to figure out how they work overall 👍

[spare aspen]

preaty straight forward tbh

[kind ginkgo]

yepyep

yoto is no longer op, she's still strong, but not borken as when she got released

as of now, there are a few strong characters, but since the recent nerfs i would love to say that nothing is really broken

[spare aspen]

i mean if your bad at doding she will REKT you annyways

[kind ginkgo]

if you simply stay still and dodge when you see the slash release, you will dodge it

as long as you tap dodge to the sides

[spare aspen]

yea

[next kite]

I see well i will see how it goes with yoto then might switch

Ty all

[kind ginkgo]

if you need combos for yoto try looking for longnotes, he's a yoto main and a combo master 👍

[neon dove]

hello

[woven hearth]

Which is inherently better for kylin, v1 or v2

[kind ginkgo]

v2 generally; but after the recent nerf v1 has maybe some leverage more

v2 is relatively harder, since it consumes your hp, while v1 is good to start with, since it's really easy to land and use overall 👍

[empty swallow]

v2 in team modes always

and u could make an argument for v1 in solos because you don't heal enough from hitting one person to justify the health loss if the opponent can dodge you

it's easy to accidentally kill yourself with it

[river sky]

What are the best damage dealers rn after kylin nerf? I want to main someone and stick with that hero but i cant decide i tried out a couple like kylin yoto zai but i mainly lose cuz lack of exp and combo and parry mechanic

Should i main yoto guys is she meta? Her skins are really pretty

[olive sun]

she's not meta
if you like her why not

[river sky]

Cuz like i dont wanna be underperforming when im playing with my friends kind of embarrassing😭

[olive sun]

the issue with yoto is she's high on burst damage but her slashes are easy to dodge so she need a team with good cc to set it up for her

but the thing is everyone got the tools to deal with her these days

gold focus and dmg reduct everywhere

[river sky]

Oh

[olive sun]

so kylin and zai just do the job better

cuz their ult last for so long compare to yoto

they can fight both short and long fights, can stalls when they want to

[river sky]

They need to rework her i think

[olive sun]

while with yoto you just pop V, 3 slashes and that's it

movement got limited too

[river sky]

Dang

[olive sun]

they did

on mobile though

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[river sky]

Wha there's naraka mobile??😭

[olive sun]

yep

atm only CN though

[river sky]

Oh

@olive sun Could you tell me some good teams with kylin or zai

[olive sun]

well the classic kylin - zipping - hadi

and zai - matari - zipping/kurumi

kylin + zipping is like a must at this point

[river sky]

Oh ok

[olive sun]

zai and matari cuz 3x F on zai

and u slap a healer on top of it

[river sky]

Which abilities to use on zai and matari

Also for kylin is v1 better or v2?

[kind ginkgo]

the performance is based on your personal skill; characters help, but they dont define your performance; you can be using kurumi and deal 20k dmg 🤔

[river sky]

True im kind of a newbie not used to parrying and stuffs also playing at 90ms why does my server have so high ping man😔

[lost dagger]

You are probably far from the server. Global only has 4 servers, so it's pure luck if you are close to one

Some regions do have nodes tho. Like SA, but it's not well known so not very active

[woven hearth]

I've been playing for like....400 hours and still don't understand how to tap dodge vs hold dodge((playing controller)) lmao

[empty swallow]

She's not

[empty swallow]

Short press vs long press

[mystic relic]

https://youtu.be/6QQwVeW59iw?si=LxjhZxMsGW0r30p6

Doesn't show controller layout but is pretty easy to translate

Anyone has any cool zai combos with zai's ult? Also can you do a ult to continue the combo?

Something like this:

https://youtube.com/shorts/YJ4gENZgPxM?si=uk9j_mpykexKRzVY

[kind ginkgo]

Can't raw dragon with zai ult no; it sends them too far

Only combos doable is the classic horizontal into uppercut, air horizontal air horizontal 🤔👍

There are some other things, but they ain't true combos, only FPS and ping abuse

[mystic relic]

Got it. Thanks

[mystic relic]

This ones for example?

https://youtu.be/Bson6rt0D3E?si=hQKT_1Hqdt6p1uO1

I have 60fps and 80ping so ain't much I can abuse

[opal depot]

i think basically everything was patched for zai

on a downward slope you can chain uncharged attacks over and over which is pretty fun but nothing that isn't terrain dependant

f2 is a true combo into 2 uncharged attacks which you have to free aim then you can connect a slightly delayed 3rd which you have to aim in prediction of the player's dodge

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah, this ain't true

Consider that you can chain in a true combo max 3 light attacks if it's not in the air

Afterwards the combo meter will be full just enough to let you dodge away, since the stagger is shorter

[mystic relic]

@kind ginkgo @opal depot thank you both for answering

[kind ginkgo]

Np

Always happy to help

[crisp heart]

Best abilities combination with justina gu?

[kind ginkgo]

f2 v1

[worn spindle]

cyra ult looks cancer we cooked

😭

[kind ginkgo]

Can't even play shayol to cover it 😂😂

Need stuns

Viper coming back solid into the meta I guess

[worn spindle]

need to test if wuchen will work on her

[kind ginkgo]

He's getting a buff, could be interesting

[worn spindle]

again

WWW

[kind ginkgo]

I think it all depends on what can interrupt that machine gun status

[kind ginkgo]

Just a few more gold focus frames after tp

In case u miss it

Cuz so far if someone dodged, it guaranteed that you would die

And they are nerf / buffing him by reducing the distance I go backwards with ult and f (not completely sure bout the last part)

[worn spindle]

i dont like f1 anyways

give back clank blades

[kind ginkgo]

😂😂

I like the tp

It's good

[worn spindle]

nah it kinda cringe and basically a combo starter/extender

for the enemy

wuchen raw dragon would go crazy tho

[kind ginkgo]

No knochback sadly

I tryed

U can do a lot of stuff tho

[opal depot]

yeah fr

at least the heal ult duration isn't that high

[brittle latch]

Can i ask a question?

If i play ice what should i choose on F and V?

I solo

[spare forge]

[kind ginkgo]

Depends on the hero 👍

[little cargo]

I think they mean Justina, ice and all

[kind ginkgo]

f2 v1 then

[lethal shell]

does anyone have zai trios glyphs

[kind ginkgo]

Same as for solos; you can either go full red or do a complete red on the right side, and a complete green on the right side (the one with grapple)

[chrome cliff]

You don't need green on zai

Pretty sure my guide has a special zai build that's either extra red or has some purple in it

[empty swallow]

i just use this

ult build with a little grapple range

good enough to go on 10+ win streaks

[regal viper]

[distant solstice]

[sick solar]

new to the game, what are some cool heroes i can play for solo?

[kind ginkgo]

the idea for when you start to play is to pick whatever you think looks cool 👍

meta will come into play later and later on dw 👍

(try just to avoid kurumi and tianhai for solos, since their kit isn't made at all for solos)

but most importantly, focus on learning how the mouvement and fighting work overall 👍

[worn spindle]

u fw reverend insanity yh

my goat

[compact ledge]

who do we think is best for duos rn

[kind ginkgo]

zai + anything

[keen carbon]

Zai + Wuchen

skibidi combos

[compact ledge]

f1, v2 ?

[keen carbon]

yeah bruh

[sick solar]

ye im on ch 723

[worn spindle]

use wuchen if u like taoists nd dat

my fav character since the start

[nocturne trail]

Is it bad having full ult build or? Wondering cuz i have it full and i use tessa atm

[empty swallow]

I use the same on tessa

[empty swallow]

Same as this

[wispy wigeon]

kylin definitely

[kind ginkgo]

I'll stay strong by my idea that he isn't beginner friendly, especially with v2

[wispy wigeon]

idk, i'm not really good in game as i am a beginner myself, but his ult definitely good in solo, or good in general, i just like him a lot tho :))

[kind ginkgo]

He's good, but recent nerfs hit him hard

And losing hp when you attack is a hard thing to deal with on solo at the beginning

[wispy wigeon]

agree

what is your recommendation tho, very curious, for solo

[wheat hearth]

@empty swallow any tips for aku?

[kind ginkgo]

for a complete beginner i would say that probably tessa, shayol, zai, lyam could be interesting

also valda

valda super recommended

[empty swallow]

akos hu?

[wispy wigeon]

nice, thanks

[kind ginkgo]

np

[wheat hearth]

Yes

[empty swallow]

i dont play him

but learn to use the pounce attacks

where you jump once or multiple times and then lmb after landing, it's very powerful and starts combo

the basic ability parts of his kit are very straightforward and easy to understand, but make sure you get these down too, many new players don't use these because they don't know about them

[lost dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/samurai-jack-aku-ayee-yes-gif-13587597

Aku?

[willow matrix]

[silver swallow]

[narrow oak]

🩷

[narrow oak]

lets play

[kind ginkgo]

I recommend using #974124351089688587 , #974124352293437470 , #974124353899880498 , #974124359335690340 , #974124364352065587 to look for people to play with 🤔👍👍

(that aside, if you play EU, in the evening (late) I can maybe play a few if you still are looking for people 👍🤔)

[narrow oak]

Nice

[sick solar]

what do u guys think of cyra so far

[kind ginkgo]

Reactive character; imo she shines the brightest in team modes 🤔

I'll say more this evening tho, once I try her

[empty swallow]

bad

slow

underwhelming

needs buff

[kind ginkgo]

Give it a few days

I think she won't need any

Maybe a faster cc activation, but overall she looks fine 🤔 (that being said I still have to arrive home and try her)

[empty swallow]

yea cc is too slow

i'd make it 1s delay maximum

[shell bluff]

buff tarka ji

[slate sierra]

She’s definitely very easily kited when ulting

And I feel like she doesn’t output anywhere near the healing numbers Zip or Kurumi can put out but to be fair that could be a skill issue, maybe I’m not throwing enough orbs or very accurate orbs while ulting

[kind ginkgo]

Never

[kind ginkgo]

I feel like we need to give her a few days to break the game

People were saying that Kylin was weak on release, same for lyam

Watch where they ended up 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[kind ginkgo]

Jokes aside tarka is in a weird spot; he bullies new people and is "weaker" against experienced ones

Thing is that any buff would make him game breaking

[olive sun]

tarka will never get buff

because of how many crazy shts he could do in the right hand

not just ''bullies new people''

though he's indeed ''weaker'' against experienced ones, but that doesn't means that he's weak on high elo matches

everyone, and i mean everyone i watched that playing on the highest elo of CN IW matches run away when their tarka opponent pops his V

they don't do that agaisnt any other heroes, just tarka

[chrome cliff]

@kilometerz I've found that meowing when I F, V or eat my opponent will throw enemies off guard if they are on voice chat with me

If you are particularly manly, you can also roar like ameks

[wheat hearth]

[chrome cliff]

But I have a soft voice, so I can't personally

To play akos well you must have good immersion

Use whatever assets you have at your disposal to achieve that

There are also some characters that will punish your jump if you try to claw attack them

For example zai or Justina can burn or freeze you for free if you make the mistake of jumping

Change up how you play akos depending on the enemy character

[mint parrot]

What skills do people think is best for cyra?

I think the second ult is great but it doesnt feel long enough compared to the first, its hard to choose

[kind ginkgo]

Personally I think f2 V2 🤔

But v1 is overall better

[mint parrot]

Do u think f1 is total ass?

[kind ginkgo]

Dps is fine, but I personally think that since she's a support the other ult works a bit better 🤔

That aoe stun is strong

[austere bane]

whats your glpy recommendation?

[kind ginkgo]

I would say green, any side is good (although usually grapple is preferred) all the way till the last node, and the rest in ult (u want that dmg reduction and rage regen)

But for the new hero specifically I recommend checking regularly the #1300743595405606932 channel 👍👍, in the upcoming days everyone is going to share there their tips, combos, strategies,....

[austere bane]

ohh alright thank youu

[kind ginkgo]

Npnp

[surreal axle]

1

[mint parrot]

thank you!! will go with the second ult

[grizzled bobcat]

wich character is the best for using a staff ?

[olive sun]

none

[grizzled bobcat]

how come ?

[opal depot]

why isnt cyra broken she feels kind of weak

like her f2 is really fun and i like tod combos but that isn't useful in trios where her ult won't be really weak

to me solos cyra feels as good as solos kurumi after 5 games

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[kind ginkgo]

All

All characters can generally benefit from using all weapons

Staff especially isn't really what we'd call a combo weapon, so you don't need a particular kit to be able to utilize it to the fullest

Eventually tho, you might like some of the interactions you can have with Lyam V2 (pokeball) and the staff focus charges 👍🤔

[grizzled bobcat]

thx

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[mint parrot]

Been using the second ult and yeah the stun is what is the best part about it

But the aim is stiff and people escape it easily but i think if they change the stiff aim the ult is perfectly fine tbh

[opal depot]

playing on like 16000 dpi made it easier for me

[rancid oracle]

Wdym by stiff aim? It feels fine to me.

[kind ginkgo]

Yeah

But aim feels fine

[mint parrot]

Idk maybe its the aim assist or something but sometimes in ult it felt like it was slow to turn

[rancid oracle]

Aim feels fine. It’s her movement that feels stiff.

She just feels stiff movement wise to me idk.

I could be wrong tho.

[mint parrot]

Maybe thats it for why i feel like its hard to aim and move with her

I do really enjoy the character tho

[little cargo]

Using the laser beam lock down your camera speed

[mighty scaffold]

@little cargo yeah that needs to be adjusted to regular aim, it feels clunky if someone jumps over you and can't track them anymore because of the slowdown

But she's basically Moria

[little cargo]

They just did

[mighty scaffold]

@little cargo oh really?

[mighty scaffold]

Awesome

[mint mauve]

is yoto hime the worst character now ?

[mint mauve]

it feels like everyone can counter her right now

[olive sun]

you're absolutely right

but i think 24e is cooking something with yoto

[radiant plinth]

No

[mint mauve]

Howhow?

[mint mauve]

every recent character can counter her and she can do nothing about it

like every time theres a kylin

if your using yoto

either run or die

now cyra can do the same

to any yoto player

[olive sun]

first we know that she's on the list of heroes that gonna get reworked down to 2Fs and 2Vs
second is on mobile she already received the rework

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | tabbie leveled up!

[mint mauve]

what rework?

[olive sun]

V2 is diff

[mint mauve]

wait mobile? theres a mobile version of naraka?

[olive sun]

uhh yeah?

[mint mauve]

can you showshowshow

[olive sun]

https://youtu.be/K6yiXw-zQ0g

[mint mauve]

in beta?

[mint mauve]

when did it release..

[olive sun]

already released

but on CN only

[mint mauve]

why do i not see any difference?

[olive sun]

i can't find the skill showcase vid

but

compare to current yoto: F2 V2 removed, V3 became V1, full time ultimate focus and V2 now do a horizontal slash, cost 55% rage

[mint mauve]

so no difference in animation?

[olive sun]

there are

V2 horizontal slash

https://youtu.be/ujdi_ZKBmpw

[mint mauve]

so whats the big difference aside from lower ultimate cost

[olive sun]

wdym what's the big difference? the 55% rage cost also the fast cast and horizontal hitbox gonna make her gameplay different

compare to current v3

[mint mauve]

i can honestly imagine your pain when searching for these kinds of videos

[mint mauve]

so the difference for ultimate is lower rage cost and stuff for the skill changed?

[olive sun]

i mean you can just watch the video and figure it out

oh also v2 can be charged too

[mint mauve]

so overall will she be meta

[olive sun]

how tf could i tell lol

need to wait til the rework is here to know

there's probably some stats adjustment too

[mint mauve]

sobbing

[rancid oracle]

Any temulch tips for duos?

[opal depot]

cyra is really fun

if you 4x your sensitivity as you ult the laser becomes pretty scary too

well i guess it's 8x but it doesn't really feel like a linear increase

[dreamy hazel]

Hi does anyone have Hadi solo andtrios glyphs

[kind ginkgo]

trios and solo glyphs for hadi are the same

eventually if you are playing a support build with v1 u can spend more point in the rage tree

but ideally u want at least the full red on the right side and at least half gree on the right, but since you are at it complete it till the last node there aswell, in order to get some cdr on your combo breaker 👍

[dreamy hazel]

Oh okay thank you

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[rancid oracle]

Any temulch tips for duos?

[kind ginkgo]

try to stun the person that's not watching you

ult and then go in and out to refresh your f

keep 1 person pinned down if possible, otherwise just be as annoying as possible 👍

[rancid oracle]

So f1 v3?

[kind ginkgo]

F1 V3 YEAH

wops, sry caps

[rancid oracle]

Ty.

[jolly dawn]

Which characters are the most versatile?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Laru leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[kind ginkgo]

what do you mean by versatile?

[jolly dawn]

Jack of all trades kit. Something like street fighter ryu/ken

[kind ginkgo]

nothing 🤔

each hero has smth at which they excel, but no hero is really good at doing all

healers are not good dmg dealers, and dmg dealers cant heal

the closest you could find i probably tessa? or justina? with cc and high skill ceiling for combos (justina)

[wraith cargo]

perhaps wuchen, he can heal a little, has a combo breaker unlike ziping/kurumi in his f, so you can also fight with him and his ult has stagger which you can combo off - kind of a little from everything

[karmic summit]

Any Cyra tips on duos and trios?

[surreal axle]

1

[kind ginkgo]

Don't play proactively , wait for the enemy to engage

You need to be behind your allies, support them with cc, don't throw yourself in first

V2 looks generally better for duos and trios, because of the big aoe stun at the end

Also, I might want to check in #1300743595405606932 👍👍

[jolly dawn]

Another question is there a character that forces you to learn neutral and movement in solo (ie not having neutral skipping skills)

[kind ginkgo]

Go tessa

Tessa, ziping, viper, justina

The last 2 are the hardest; absolutely not recommended for beginners nor intermediate, if you want to focus on neutral

Tessa is fine, ziping same

But this kind of hero in the current meta can be pretty frustrating, so make sure to always go back to smth you like to not lose the fun of the game 👍👍

[jolly dawn]

Thanks. Which weapon should i use on those two?

[kind ginkgo]

Any weapon is fine

If you are learning neutral try avoiding fistblades maybe, and Heng sword

[robust snow]

which glyphs should i take for cyra ?

[chrome cliff]

Yoto and viper are best for this purpose imo

You will die a lot but that's exactly the point

I don't recommend ziping because you can make a lot of mistakes and just outheal the damage

I always encourage new players to play viper or yoto, starting on them makes them focus on movement and neutral, they can improve faster than others

[fluid sapphire]

Which characters worth to soloq for mastered ?

[chrome cliff]

Lyam Hadi Akos Justina Temulch Tessa Ziping

And probably takeda too

These are all strong picks and somewhat evergreen

[fluid sapphire]

Lyam or hadi can u explain difference

[chrome cliff]

Some of them rotate briefly out of the meta and come back

[chrome cliff]

Lyam throws focus attacks and plays around F, Hadi is immortal

Hadi with good movement is very hard to kill

[fluid sapphire]

That's like a squishy play

[chrome cliff]

Hadi is male ziping that flies with a combo breaker

[fluid sapphire]

nah nah you get wrong , i say Run and attack style or dodge and attack

[chrome cliff]

Ziping is basically the same though

She's like a moth sticking around when 2 people fight

She tries to get the kill, and if she doesn't get it, its not worth it for anyone to focus her

She runs away or heals to full and comes back, and the other 2 are back to fighting each other

It's very similar to how hadi plays

[fluid sapphire]

oh that's great

thx for help

[plush kelp]

guys is there guide for like certain character need % hp/atk/damage reduction souljades

[karmic summit]

I’m also wondering that

[slate sierra]

Most souljades you take will be weapon dependent or overall good jades like Sap, skyforce, etc. but I’d say you definitely don’t want to be sitting on 0% dmg reduc. I’d reccomend at least 2 dmg reduc jades to give you 12% reduction

There isn’t really a perfect answer to “run X jades on this character” but you can use some logic like wanting more dmg reduction than attack on a character like kurumi, as she can’t attack when tethered so she wouldn’t get the most out of high attack jades

Sometimes if you’re really lucky or kitted your entire inventory will be weapon related jades or strong jades like sap, juggernaut, soul release etc and in those cases you don’t really have control over what % dmg reduc, HP, or attack you have as dropping any of your other jades for a “normal” stat jade wouldn’t be worthwhile

[plush kelp]

hmmm alright thanks a lot for all the explanation
really appreciate it

[empty swallow]

in general

you want to max out your dmg reduction and hp

but if you have a certain OP jade like soul sash, don't worry that it has attack

you're using those jades for their effect, not stat

so prioritize dmg reduction and then hp stat, but if you get any strong jade that has attack stat on it and you can use it, equip it and don't worry about it

first replace your HP jades and then dmg reduction, 24% dmg reduction is very important unless you have the strong jades to justify losing it

[jolly dawn]

Thanks. Are there any reasons why yoto and viper are better than say tessa at focusing on neutral and movement?

[kind ginkgo]

they dont have any stuns on the ult

except viper

but viper ult is harder to hit / dodge compared to a tessa

in a solo situation

also tessa f provides a lot more defense (it's 2 combo breakers)

[rancid oracle]

Any tips for hitting Yeashan’s ultimate attacks? I have a hard time landing any attacks.

[plush kelp]

oh okay thanks a lot for the information there

[little cargo]

Usually 4 jades of the same kinda max out the stats, just remember that so you don't use like 6 damage reduction jade while you can use 4 dmg reduction and 2 other jade (based mainly on reference if you go for atk or hp)

[empty swallow]

viper especially

because you have no combo breakers and you will likely be one of the primary targets for enemies

so you will need to use proper neutral, hold checking, positioning and movement to keep yourself alive

[final pawn]

I thought Viper also has a combo breaker skill?

[opal depot]

its just really bad

or rather it doesn't really work with her ult very well

[slate sierra]

They’ll probably get rid of her combo breaker when they rework her down to 2 abilities and ults tbh

[chrome cliff]

you can be super noob at the game and still win fights as tessa by mashing your ult at the most random time possible or getting lucky with lag

Not really possible with yoto or viper

Yotos ult is mostly useful in final circle

Before that her kit is more about her F, her F is strong but not game-breaking

Viper should be self explanatory

[chrome cliff]

Don't run combo breaker in viper, her other Fs are better

[chrome cliff]

Not all characters run DR and HP, some prefer to run DR and attack or max out attack first, depending on game mode

For example, yoto runs max attack in trios usually

Max DR is a good place to start for most characters though

Characters whose ult hp scales with health can run that over DR, e.g. tianhai

[spare kestrel]

Hello! Does staff goes well woth Akos? 🙂

[chrome cliff]

staff is pretty much optimal on akos

have fun learning the 211 combo for 2 weeks XD

that combo is omega painful to learn if you're new to it

[spare kestrel]

211 combo ia that like must in any cost to learn ?

[chrome cliff]

make sure to also know the 3 different follow-ups after the RMB focus:

1. middodge rmb rmb for short juggle
2. holddodge rmb rmb for long juggle (if they fly far because you hit them in a certain way)
3. ranged weapon followup

[chrome cliff]

if you want to play staff on akos, definitely

that combo is how you deal damage with staff

[spare kestrel]

Il make that prio nr 1

[chrome cliff]

other combos are really bad compared to it

[chrome cliff]

gl

i learned it myself a few weeks ago

i revisited it like 3 times in total since january

now it's pretty consistent for me

but i'm playing on hard mode since the server room is next door

if you have high ping (e.g. 40+) it should be giga easy

[spare kestrel]

Okey thanks i will start leaening it 🙂

Why ianot called 211? Any spwcific reson?

[chrome cliff]

because it's based on weapon swaps and back in the day, this was how you input it

the inputs changed since then i think, but it retained its name

[spare kestrel]

Do you have maybe a youtube link for it i looked so many and all are bit different

[chrome cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LK0f7Cj5wCA

i use swapping weapon method

[spare kestrel]

So dodging and swaping is the key element okei

[empty swallow]

Yes just meant specifically he should want tankiness as a new player everywhere so he doesnt get insta deleted in fights, and its not really gonna grief him

But yes some chars benefit nicely from atk to delete opponents faster if you're able to stay alive

[kind ginkgo]

Shayol

That f2 slaps with full atk jades

A gold weapon also helps

[plush kelp]

how about character like Zai?

[kind ginkgo]

I would recommend half dmg reduction and half dmg 🤔👍

[plush kelp]

I guess skip HP unless hp on legendary jade

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[plush kelp]

alright will try it.
thanks for the info there

[kind ginkgo]

Or on characters like tianhai or yueshan, where the hp translates in hp for the transformation aswell 🤔👍👍

[plush kelp]

does Cyra also count?

[kind ginkgo]

Nop

[plush kelp]

oh okay

[kind ginkgo]

Not that I knw of at least

I can test later, but the shield looks like a fixed amount

[plush kelp]

yeah same like Valda I guess

[kind ginkgo]

Yep

[little cargo]

It does

Just tested it, it does

[kind ginkgo]

Does weapon rarity also influence that?

[little cargo]

Nope

It does affect damage output, not healing amount or armor

[kind ginkgo]

Okok

[clear solstice]

All the best!

[viscid spire]

Hi! Just want to ask what’s your preferred preparation for viper ning and kurumi?

[slate sierra]

you mean skills/ults?

viper you want to run f2 or f3, dont run combo break

all her ults are viable it depends what youre trying to do, for solos vipers run V3 so they can fight and move freely during channel

kurumi runs F3 V2

[earnest spoke]

Hi! I wanna ask you all since I'm a beginner in the game. If I play support Kurumi or Ziping is better? Every website telling me Ziping but I personally like the outfits of Kurumi more. But if she's bad I can't play her.. Also there is this new chaarcter called Cyra as healer I think.

[cinder thistle]

i think ziping yin is easier to use than kurumi

[kind ginkgo]

kurumi is overall stronger 👍 ; ziping is more situational, but as summer said it's easier to play overall since she is a lot more tanky than kurumi

but if you like kurumi dont fear going for her, just need someone to play her with since she isnt really fitted for solo gameplay, but more for duos and especially trios

[earnest spoke]

Thanks!

[kind ginkgo]

np

[wraith cargo]

try #👾┃showdown if you mean pve mode. glyphs with cdr for ability are pretty broken but also very hard to farm.

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Ching-Szi leveled up!

[opal depot]

i NEED kurumi f cancel startup buff so she can reliably use it as a restand

[keen carbon]

guys

i need Akos Hu
and Justina gu

glyphs

help me tell ur recommendations

[kind ginkgo]

ahaha

you can do it already

it's just easier on higher fps and somewhat precise 😆

[frigid apex]

Hey! I don't know if this goes here, I'm a noob player interested in playing trios as support, I like playing Ziping and Feria, is there any other character that I should be learning? Thanks in advance!

[kind ginkgo]

Anything that you think could be fun 👍👍

Don't limit yourself when starting out with the game

[frigid apex]

Don't worry, I play whatever in solos and duos XD

Just wanted to play a new character and I don't know what to play

But thank you for the answer I can agree with that!

[kind ginkgo]

Mhh, considering current meta, if you go zai u will never be in the wrong 🤔

If you want to play supp tho, I recommend trying kurumi

[frigid apex]

Thank you very much! I'll try both :D

[spare kestrel]

is this any good mostly playing with Akos

[cobalt kayak]

be honest u dont need he last one on red site 20% dmg reduction for 10s it kinda meh i prefer for the first in purple for extra dmg reduction when focus or blue for luck .

[olive sun]

that first purple is even more useless since it only gives dmg reduct when u're blue and lost immediately if you lost blue focus state lol
meaning it only reduce dmg from light attacks when you're on blue state, if you got light staggered or ate a blue attack it does nothing

and 1st blue node is even more useless w/o the whole tree

[cobalt kayak]

Bro but last one on red really make no use for akos he have that on F1 and with V he have mobility and yellow focus it really make no reason for u to take last one 20% for only 10s : l

[olive sun]

i didn't say last red node is good for akos

🤷‍♂️

[cobalt kayak]

last red node really not good for any character :v maybe some can use but most it useless that why i say it meh

[lost dagger]

It's very good on specific heros, like viper, zipping, feria, to name a few.

[spare kestrel]

so what should i change

[cobalt kayak]

depent on what u want in low rank spam focus kinda OP u know in there not many use the red and extra luck for open green or blue case still good enough for one point

[spare kestrel]

@cobalt kayak well im new what ever is best to get the hang of the game

maybe u can make me a picture how it should look and i will tyry to understand it

[cobalt kayak]

I want to sent u a picture but i dont know how i dont have role to do that : /

[empty swallow]

its fine

if you don't want the final red one

you could do like this

but you are not gonna lose any games because of this glyph setup

[cobalt kayak]

15% start actually sound good bro i forgot this path :v i only take first node and 3 small node from red one

[boreal notch]

Hi! really quick question about preparation for Justina Gu

[spare kestrel]

Can i cancel cyras ULT with akos ult grab?

[olive sun]

no
cyra gain ultimate focus during ult

[nocturne trail]

Anyone has a glyph board specific for cyra?

[kind ginkgo]

@nocturne trail this one works wonders on her, and it's also the best one for most of the heroes 👍

[livid whale]

Best Souljades For Viper Ning?

[kind ginkgo]

#👾┃showdown try asking here; it's the community centered around pve; here most likely no one can answer 👍

[lyric briar]

hi what point to put for zai ?

[kind ginkgo]

Go all red, u can't go wrong with that on zai 🤔👍

[lyric briar]

okay tysm !