🙎┃character-guides

[kind ginkgo]

Normally no one loots underground

If they are going for a fast ouzzle

Puzzle*

[proven fulcrum]

i pinged them on the map with the bell, and they were somewhere far from the circle

very weird

[kind ginkgo]

Then they went down before, heard you coming, went away, came back

[proven fulcrum]

fair

[wraith cargo]

I once got it right by accident

My guess is a team was there before me but got interrupted and didn't finish

I moved three things bc I was fooling around and suprise - a golden weapon

[long tinsel]

Anyone got some tricks for Yoto Hime F2?

[kind ginkgo]

The dash forward is a combo starter 🤔👍

And can hyper armor a lot of things, like focus attacks, since it's a combo breaker 🤔👍

[olive sun]

fake it as if you're running F3 not F2

[waxen gate]

Hey guys after what attack can you punish a zai for just spamming 123 or holding heavy charges seems like all her attack give her the blue shield and can’t stagger her at all

[olive sun]

dodge her attacks and catch her on the gap between those with your light attack

[fading reef]

fellow gamers

i have 235 hero bucks...i am unsure which hero to add to my roster

me likey big 2h wpns, anyone have a suggestion of which hero to unlock?

umm, and i'm a solo player...if that matters

[drifting pollen]

Solo? Tessa. Ez

[fading reef]

hold on, let me scroll through every character and find her

....

okayyy

[fading reef]

should i be basing my character choice off of my glyph plan mostly?

i'm curious what the.........deciding factors are.......for character choice, i guess

[drifting pollen]

Nah

EVENTUALLY you'll have enough Tae to have a glyph board for every character you play

[fading reef]

ahh okay

i'm lvl16 so, rather new

so that would leave, what...play style preference?

and if you are solo or not?

like, Zai's skills seem like up my alley

wuchen also seems maybe interesting for a glass cannon type ?

wait can i try everyone in the training place

oh....look at that, neat. ty tox

[vague pebble]

i recommend going into free training and trying out all characters to see who you'd like. But if you want solo specific recommendations then lyam, hadi, matari

[fading reef]

if i may, do you rate these 3 for their survivability solo?

[vague pebble]

Meta wise they are the strongest for solos, and yes all 3 of them have good survivability, especially hadi

[fading reef]

thank you

[lost dagger]

To add some more names, kylin, wuchen, shayol, tessa, ziping, justina are all solid solo picks. You honestly can play most heros in solos, but i would avoid tianhai, kurumi, and yueshan for solos although they are great in trios

[fading reef]

kai's arm blades speak to me, wucen peaked my interest most at first just scrolling through every selection

my decision is between those two i think

[lost dagger]

Forgot to mention hadi as well

[robust vigil]

which one is best for her ??

[wraith cargo]

F3 V2 in trios, F3 or F1 V2 in solos and duos

Does Liam V1 make him golden for 30 sec the whole time?

[olive sun]

golden as in?

gold focus state? ofc not

[wraith cargo]

alright ty

I think it says become golden

"transmute into a golden state for 30 sec"

[kind ginkgo]

nop; nearly nothing it's golden in that ult

he only is in gold status when he spins after teleporting to the globe

[wraith cargo]

ty

[kind ginkgo]

np

[weak pendant]

Hi

[kind ginkgo]

[fading reef]

anyone have a link for a good zai......guide/rundown?

[fallow nova]

Hello All

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwMHHr1cERw

this is a nice base

[subtle storm]

Does anyone have a link for Tessa guide?

[kind ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/vBHSpNqQIfg?si=cy8t2ipgwOCvvD2R

It's a bit outdated; she got a small rework recently

But all that he says about F1 and v1 still stands

Just consider, that compared to when the video was done, the time the enemies need to free themselves from the orb is way less

[fast shard]

How to avoid Big Swords of Wuchen Ulti?

So much stagger that is unreal

[kind ginkgo]

Tap dodge when he throws them at you;avoid the first hit, avoid all

If you get hit, you can't avoid

[olive sun]

you can

blue armor the small swords and tap dodge the big swords

but wuchen ain't gonna let you do that easily so

[fast shard]

tanks alot tabbie , that what i am missing

i was blue amoring and then got it by bigswords

[olive sun]

listen to the sound it makes so you know exactly the moment to tap dodge

[fast shard]

i see

[fast shard]

Takeda V3 is not useful in Immortal because of purple rarity is so hard there

nver reach purple ulti range

[fading reef]

ty internet stranger!

[kind ginkgo]

yw 😆

[fading reef]

not bad first shot

[final pawn]

Your first match ever?

[final pawn]

I would suggest not using V2 if you don't know what you're doing, V1 is more beginner friendly, V2 is more suitable if you're more familar with the game

Rookie using V2 just become a sitting duck for enemies to gang up on, speaking from experience

[rough sigil]

Anyone have a Kurumi guide

[fading reef]

with her yea

[kind ginkgo]

Yepyep, WP!

[trail kindle]

which spells to take for matari in solos

[lost dagger]

I recommend f2 and v2 but you can also use f1 if u prefer. F2 is great once you know how to make good use of it and get value from winning neutral since you can start combos with it

[olive sun]

go F1 and do this to people

https://tenor.com/view/soulfltr-head-slap-gif-22249426

[trail kindle]

im afraid ppl im thee one gettin the backshots

[olive sun]

slap or get slapped man

[trail kindle]

aint gettin slapepd yet

solos fileld with bot lobbies love itr

[kind ginkgo]

Wait until the slapping monsters arrive 🤔😂😂

[trail kindle]

well it would feel better than kicking bots for like 20 mins i get kicked in 2 atleast

hahahaha

[fading reef]

some random chinese guy in my guild started playing with me last night 1v1s

i probably won 10 out of 200 matches

one of them was a charged verticle slap death

just rude

lol

[woven hearth]

How to play akos hu, and how tf do you play trios....my premade just gets jumped and there's nothing to do when two or more jump one of you.

Our team is usually Akos, zipping, and Tessa, with me as Akos I usually bounce around a lot of characters

[trail kindle]

Always chines letters man always

[fading reef]

kinda sucks you can't chat with people while 1v1

i want to talk with this person

[lost dagger]

You can. There is a setting for custom lobbies to enable proximity voice chat during the match

[fading reef]

being able to text chat would be nice

[fading reef]

i guess there's a lot of sensoring that would need to happen for that

[lost dagger]

Cn has that, even in ranked. But i think some players on global abused it and got it taken away, ruining it for everybody

[fading reef]

the internet got out of hand?!?!?>

[lost dagger]

Typical NA edgelords ruining stuff for everyone

Basically spamming slurs and profanities in all chat until they took it away for all of global

[fading reef]

yeah, sounds righjt

i believe it's time to learn wtf defusing is

showdown silver 2 is whooping my ass

[kind ginkgo]

Defusing is what happens when, while you are holding focus, you press the other attack button at the same time; you character will clash golden and, if in that moment gets hit by any attack of the enemy, it will unleash a counter attack in golden focus that destroys a nice chunk of the aegis 👍

[fading reef]

i am terrible timing it

and sometimes i feel like defuse or parry doesn't work on some moves? maybe i'm just missing the mark

[kind ginkgo]

Nop, on all

Same timing as a parry pretty much

[final pawn]

Level up the potential that help you defusing easier, also using the defuse concentrate jade, that also help a lot

[wraith cargo]

let ziping run F2 V2, she alone can get you out of getting one tabbed

stay together, which is important for almost every comb - it won't come to 1vs3 then

Tessa ult can also get you out

I think akos ult is a combo breaker which gets you out

Even if you run V3, Tessa and Ziping should be able to get you out if you get caught

and for you, hold blue or do scalerushes until your team arrives

but you shouldn't get to play 1vs3 in the first place. I would focus more on that

[drowsy dragon]

If zipin doesn't work go for Kurumi since she has an AoE and you can move more freely around, especially if your kurumi has f2 equipped so she can save you from anything fatal since you barely take dmg from it

[gusty hatch]

Which ult is better for kylin Zhang? His first one or second one?

And r they still going to be making a third ult/skill for the reworked characters like wuchen and matari?

[sly ember]

To my knowledge, third ults and skills have been removed from the game entirely. Only two ults and skills for each character now

[rich thistle]

how do I do the infinte tarka combo?

nvm

got it

[kind ginkgo]

[livid marten]

Any zai guides?

[final pawn]

Skill 2, ulti 2, unless you're new, then either skill 1 or 2, ulti 1

[livid marten]

alr ty

[proven fulcrum]

im ascending

[kind ginkgo]

nice!

[charred spire]

I keep bouncing around to different characters because i cant decide who i want to main haha. I really like takeda and got him fully cultivated but im also liking Lyam, Yoto, Viper, and Hadi. Any recommendations on who to focus on and good guides to teach me the ways

[olive sun]

but why tho

enjoy all of your favorites

don't have to be an otp

[final pawn]

Just play who you want to play, I jumped from maining Feria to switching between Tessa and Shayol every so often

[charred spire]

I have alot of fun with Takeda and fully cultivated him and played some ranked with him. But im trying to find another character to focus on to learn more characters but i cant decide who and i bounce around to so many haha.

[gloomy sequoia]

Any tarka guide ?

[kind ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/InYX649NWBw?si=9RfaQtn2Q9TIaC5h

Bit old, but it does the job 👍

[rancid oracle]

Am i shit or is shayol just a bad character?

My ult just feels borderline useless. Tap dodge>Shayol/

[slate sierra]

I wouldn’t say Shayol is bad but she has been out long enough to where good players know how to avoid her yes

I play her a lot in duos and don’t usually have problems hitting people with V1 but it really depends on a lot of variables, their stamina, where their attention is focused, if your teammates are staggering them or not etc

[final pawn]

Don't use the counter immediately, wait right after they dodge or when they're rushing you, also aiming toward a large crown is also better

[opal depot]

didn't they make it so her v2 doesn't have enough stun to combo start anymore?

[kind ginkgo]

Nop, V2 can still combo start

Same as always

[final pawn]

You can still get a stage 1 charge in with Shayol V2

[compact ledge]

Got any for kylin

Any extra tips as well would do fine

[kind ginkgo]

i dont really have a nice guide on my hands for him atm sry

[compact ledge]

It’s alright no worries thanks

[charred spire]

Anyone have a good guide for Yoto Hime?

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNKGxhiCv9g

you can try this one; it's a bit outdated, but it should still do the work

dont trust the combos too much

and remember, that atm the f2 is your best bet; since it can combo start, combo break and combo extend aswell 👍

[charred spire]

i suck at combos so bad haha. ill look at it. thank you!

[kind ginkgo]

dw, especially at the beginning it's not really useful to launch oneselves at hard combos

way more important to focus on learning the neutral play, and also at simply enjoying oneselves 👍

[charred spire]

So torn on who to work on cultivating next. IM torn between Yoto, Viper, tessa, and Zai. ill eventually do all of them but right now im bouncing around to them and cant focus haha

[kind ginkgo]

all o fthem 👍

[charred spire]

just rough to focus one at a time haha

[gloomy sequoia]

What's the use of cultivation? New to naraka ..is it like leveling up one hero to fullest ?

[olive sun]

in term of gameplay it has no effects at all

[kind ginkgo]

It's just. Quests you can do with a specific hero

Like progression to reward your time playing that hero

Overall they give: Tae, some immortal treasures, a cool emblem ok the side when u play that hero 👍

[kind ginkgo]

Eventually you will do all of them🤔👍👍👍

I believe in you

[charred spire]

The cultivation is the the mastery missions for each character. You can get loot crates to open by leveling them and the missions are stuff for you to have a goal while playing a character like using their skill 20 times and stuff like that. it actually helped me as a new player do different things and get used to using the characters abilities. I have Takeda fully cultivated and a few others about half way. You can also unlock some cosmetics for the characters by doing it as well like some outfits and some accessories

[proven fulcrum]

@kind ginkgo I'm getting frustrated since there's a lot of times I can't press any buttons

I'm just standing still getting hit

I can't even dash cancel/crouch or anything, how do I break out of that loop

[kind ginkgo]

Combo breaker abilities

Aside from that, it really depends on what the situation is

If you got high ping, some untrue staggers become true because of the different ms

My best hint would be to spend more time in focus form; try to avoid getting staggered in the first place 🤔👍

[charred spire]

I feel this. Ill play ranked and someone will just keep regular attacking me into oblivion and i cant do anything but pray they misclick or something at that point. im hoping i just naturally learn to get better at fighting because trying to watch videos of people trying to teach it ends up just confusing me more

[proven fulcrum]

It gets me so tight because it's a ping thing as well, like

I'll get punched into submission due to ping and I can't do anything about it, I somehow get hit during my focus dash, white attacked into oblivion, knnocked up, down, blue focused, parried

[kind ginkgo]

That's just normal 🤔

At the end and beginning of the dash there are frames where you are vulnerable 🤔

Prolly you are dodging in a too regular way, so people catch you 🤔

[proven fulcrum]

0:16 / 0:24 im just standing still apparently

@kind ginkgo @charred spire

no surprise my rank 151 opponent is packing a red and gold

[olive sun]

you just got caught by his attack

[charred spire]

i feel this. I got second place in ranked yesterday. My final opponent was a Kurumi that i was able to break their combo with Valda but then they just zipped off right out of my reach and healed back up to almost fulled health and shield and then beat me around until i died without me able to dodge or anything. the guy should not have been in my bronze lobby haha

[proven fulcrum]

it's silly

got me fighting the best of the best like damn

get hit once and all of a sudden no inputs work, blows my mind

[kind ginkgo]

It's normal; vertical hit on LS guarantees a uppercut

The issue in this clip it's the fact that you always are in running state and never in focus state 🤔

So pretty much anything they do will stagger you anytime

I would really recommend checking out a few tutorials on hold checking 🤔👍👍

[olive sun]

just look at how he used his F he deserved to get staggered by the light attacks

[kind ginkgo]

It might help you out a lot for these situations

[proven fulcrum]

definitely agree i didnt focus dash here

[kind ginkgo]

Not a matter of focus dashing

Focus dash is exclusively for movement around the map

Hold checking is totally a different matter 👍

And holding focus itself is the important lart

[proven fulcrum]

bet

o i remember watching a vid on that a year ago or so

btw, which parry is best, scissor or quick

[kind ginkgo]

Depends

But generally you can just use quick for all and it's fine

There are some specific instances where scissor is stronger, but just use quick parry and it s fine 🤔👍

[proven fulcrum]

thanks

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[robust vigil]

which one is good ?

[chrome cliff]

any but the ones you selected

you picked the worst

[opal depot]

it would be cool if they made them less bad

[final pawn]

Skill 1 or 2, ulti 1

[slate sierra]

theyre moving all characters down to 2 ults and abilities so likelyhood is that v3/f3 will be getting the axe when they do ziping anyways

[quiet marten]

The F3 doesnt sound that bad with a stagger shield for everyone tbh. Whats the range meant with 'allies nearby'?

[olive sun]

it doesn't sound that bad but in reality it's bad

🤷‍♂️

[opal depot]

it's not terrible but it's just worse than others

[charred spire]

Ive only played solo so far (because i dont have friends who play). So who are good characters to play solo?

[slate sierra]

Solos: Hadi, Lyam, Matari are probably the strongest right now. But other viable solo picks: Akos, Kylin, Tessa, Shayol, Ziping

Typically in solos you want to avoid transformers (Tianhai, Yueshan) with the exception of Feria. Feria V3 is played in solos but the other transformers are very team reliant

[white bison]

Guys I’m a new player, who is better to main zai or Tessa for solo/duo

[gritty barn]

Guys i am new and i have 100 hero coins. Can someone suggest me a hero and is Valda Cui good?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | goshko leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[kind ginkgo]

i would recommend zai probably 🤔 ; tessa is good for basics, but recent nerfs kind of attacked her a lot in my opinion

zai ult also is a nice tool to start out, if you are looking for a solid option to win fights without having to think too much 👍

tessa has nice tools aswell, but requires you to win neutral to make her work

[kind ginkgo]

valda is indeed good 👍 , not top meta, but it definitely has her place 👍

i would recommend testing out heroes in practice tool (press h and select the one you want) ; it's always the best to play what you like

[gritty barn]

alright, thank you

[kind ginkgo]

np 👍

[gritty barn]

btw how do i open practice tool?

nvm i found it.

[kind ginkgo]

👍

[white bison]

Thank u so much ! Yeah I keep messing up my parry in battles

[trail kindle]

which build is best for zai

in duos and solo

[kind ginkgo]

a good hint would be to not parry much 👍

parry itself it's a dangerous tool

high risk high reward

[white bison]

The problem I have is more of me not timing it right, or when I try to click it it’s not working

But I got 5h only, so ig I just need to spend more time in training

[kind ginkgo]

wait

there should be a ncie parry tutorial

ill send it to you in a sec

[white bison]

Oh that would be nice

[kind ginkgo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vMIlhsdQuE&t=79s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLZWqXPDog

here are two video that can help

[white bison]

Thank u!!!

[kind ginkgo]

yw 🙂

if you need anything dont hesitate to ping 🙂

[white bison]

Will do

[thorny shadow]

Where da mojo dojo

[kind ginkgo]

Tomorrow evening; find all the informations in #🏋┃dojo-coaching 👍

[thorny shadow]

There’s no mojo dojo

[kind ginkgo]

What is a mojo dojo?

If you mean the weekly dojo, the subscription for it are open (see the last message in the combat-training channel 👍) ; it will get announced tomorrow, around an hour before the actual start, who is in what room and with what coach 👍 (all, once you are subscribed to that specific dojo that is 👍)

[thorny shadow]

You have to pay for dojo mojo

Interesting

[kind ginkgo]

Nop

Just sign in the goggle form

It's a weekly free coaching for the community👍👍

[lost dagger]

[kind ginkgo]

did i say smth wrong?

[lost dagger]

No. Just wondering what is dojo mojo jojo

[kind ginkgo]

same 👍

[thorny shadow]

Jojo dojo mojo

[pliant kelp]

Trying to learn some healers!!

[hazy monolith]

Healer

[compact ledge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCEvJCRfFPc

If anyone is interested 👍

[little cargo]

Has no idea how I'm reading "Learn Temulch 2 Win"

But thank you for the interesting tips

[kind ginkgo]

Telmuch = win 🤔👍

[compact ledge]

No problem ❤️

[trail kindle]

best abilities for kurum in duos

?

[kind ginkgo]

f3 v2 👍

[rich urchin]

Whatre the best abilities to use on Tessa? i tend to use F2 and V1

[kind ginkgo]

F1 and v1

F2 has a use on team modes, but the combo break is really strong

[rich urchin]

i only play truos

trios

i mainly used F2 for the grab into my friend’s Viper Ning v1

[kind ginkgo]

I wod still recommend F1, since it's very situational overall

But people make it work with f2 aswell

[rich urchin]

alrighty! may i ask more ability combos

like for Viper Ning, Justina Gu, Kylin and Lyam Liu

[kind ginkgo]

For viper unmight like to use a telmuch cage 🤔👍

Or a valda ult to keep them in place till the stun

(v1)

[rich urchin]

i meant

Fx + Vx

[kind ginkgo]

Ahhh

[rich urchin]

i like valda but i dont have a pretty outfit for her unlike Justina and Tessa

[kind ginkgo]

Viper f2 V3 usually, or v1 for some comps

Justina f2 v1 usually

[rich urchin]

my friend only really plays viper for her huge stun, whats the difference between v1 and v3

[rich urchin]

okay so i assumed right

[kind ginkgo]

Kylin u can go F1 if you prefer a combo break, or f2 for skill (imo) and v2

Lyam I recommend f2 v1, but same thing as above, F1 is insanely strong, and you see pros usually using that 👍

Except in some cases

I would always recommend taking the combo break as a beginner if you can, since it can save you from some mistakes 👍👍

[rich urchin]

i really like V2 for Lyam, does that work?

like i never know what to do with V1 Lyam

[kind ginkgo]

It works, but enemies can dodge it easily, and overall it deals way less dmg

[kind ginkgo]

Depends

U can place it to combo break, activate it to heal, or simply use it to stop enemies or extend combos 👍

[rich urchin]

and final character. Akos Hu

god i hate akos hu

[kind ginkgo]

Akos it's generally either F1 or f2 and V2 from what I understood

[rich urchin]

thanks

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[analog berry]

Hey xan i get best ability’s for kurumi and yueshen please

[kind ginkgo]

Yueshan I sadly cannot help, since I very rarely play him; kurumi I would recommend F3 and V2 👍👍

[analog berry]

Thanks 🙏

[kind ginkgo]

Np

[lusty valve]

What about yoto

[kind ginkgo]

V3 is the important part

Aside from that I like to play f2, but also F3 and F1 (in this order of priority) work

[olive sun]

F1 so you can get out of a combo and press your V
trios yueshan usually run V2 since it can negate stun (viper v), storm prison (temulch v) and dragon's coil (valda v) for his whole team

solo... you don't play yueshan solo

[rich urchin]

whats the best combo for trios?
currently our mains are Tessa, Viper Ning and Kylin Zhang

[slate sierra]

strong/popular trio comps rn are kylin, hadi, zip

tessa viper wuchen

zai matari zip/kurumi

kylin really benefits from having a healer so he can run v2 and have more slashes in ult

zip tends to work better with him since hes not very stationary in fights at all so tossing him an f/activating zip ult synergizes better than kurumis stationary circle

[gloomy sequoia]

What are the best abilities for matari ? any guide plz

[kind ginkgo]

F2 V2 currently for solod

Solos*

V1 for team modes can be really useful, but it depends on what you and your team are looking for

As for guides, I don't have updated ones ATM, so I can't really help, sry

[gloomy sequoia]

no prob, thank you

[rich urchin]

we’re most likely to play this one, thank youuuu

[slate sierra]

f2 v2 is most common right now

[slate sierra]

offc ❤️ wuchen usually runs v1 in this comp to peel for viper and tessa

[river sky]

So i just started a week back what are the top tier heroes rn for solo, duo and trio that have a good learning curve like not too easy but not too difficult like tarka ji

I tried him and yea it was a bad decision maybe ill pick him up a month later

[rich urchin]

thank you so much!!!

[kind ginkgo]

tarka is relatively easy to learn, he can throw you off by how his ult work, and sits in a weird place in the meta atm 👍

fuor trios you can find the top comps right above these messages; in what Skynyx answered 👍

for solos, atm strongest is matari, with lyam and kylin 👍

i wold say that kylin, especially with v2 requires a bit of learning; second is lyam; matari is the strongest and easiest in a lot of ways

[river sky]

Ah ok

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Femto leveled up!

[river sky]

What's v2?

[kind ginkgo]

for beginners i would recommend probably : tessa, shayol, zai ideally 🤔

[kind ginkgo]

second ultimate possibility

from top to bottom

usually "f" is used to refer to skill, and "v" for ultimate 👍

[river sky]

From the 3 tarka kylin xai which should i master first?

[kind ginkgo]

it really depends on what you like to play 🤔

you can achieve any rank with any hero; some are harder to use in certain environnements, but every hero is viable overall 🤔

best hint would be to go into practice tool and test them out, to see what you like the most

and then go with that 👍

[river sky]

Ah ok I'll do that

Thx

[kind ginkgo]

imo it is more important to learn how to do neutral and fighting in general, than to learn a specific character, reason being that if you cant win neutral, you can be playing the strongest character in the game, and still not have any way to victory 👍

[kind ginkgo]

np

[slate sierra]

Kylin or Zai would be better if you’re trying to play both team modes and solos as Tarka isn’t really viable in trios, you can make him work in duos tho (:

[kind ginkgo]

dunkin makes it work in trios

[slate sierra]

This is a new player not Dunkin 😂

[kind ginkgo]

i knw 😆

i was being ironic 😆

[river sky]

What about weapon could you give me some insights about neutral and weapons like which to use

[kind ginkgo]

ever weapon; this game does not let you really chose what weapon you always want to use 👍

[slate sierra]

Don’t use fistblades if you want to learn neutral 🙂 LOL

[kind ginkgo]

neutral does not matter on the weapon 👍

[kind ginkgo]

🤔

not completely agreeing with that 🤔

but also yeah

[slate sierra]

I think a big part of neutral is learning when you can keep holding vs when you need to dodge and being aware of the punishments that can happen during a dodge with any weapon that isn’t fists (aka you aren’t in blue state so can be caught and staggered)

[kind ginkgo]

yeah

fistblades use a different kind of "neutral"

more like learning when you can dodge and when you can release

[slate sierra]

Fists unfortunately override that learning of when you are able to be caught and punished with almost every other weapon the game offers

[kind ginkgo]

but, as you said, definitely not a good idea to learn neutral with Fistblades 👍

best is with staff , katana, fan for beginners 👍

[slate sierra]

Yeah learning neutral I would just recommend a more “standard” weapon

[river sky]

Okay

Thx alot guys

[river sky]

In practice mode rn

And i just noticed

You can select different moves?

Can you switch this in match or only during hero selection?

[river sky]

And which moves would be the best to choose for these character?

[orchid star]

Can't switch in a match

[river sky]

Ah ok

[charred spire]

Anyone have a good guide on the best glyphs for Matari?

[kind ginkgo]

check out the pinned comments 👍

we have a general glyphs guide 👍

[charred spire]

what are the most used characters in solos?

[wraith cargo]

Lyam, Tessa I think

there are also a lot of tarkas but that's more bc solos is the only good mode for tarka I think

[orchid star]

lyam, tessa, wuchen, matari, tarka only rlly in high rank lobbies because those are rlly the only ppl that can use him well

[charred spire]

is Kurumi used alot? I was thinking of focusing her next on learning her but I dont want to play a character that is overly played

[orchid star]

feria and zai are used fairly often too and valda

kurumi is one of the worst chars to play in solos

[wraith cargo]

kurumi is the worst on solos

[orchid star]

aside from monk

[charred spire]

ok.. dang. I only every play solos and ive played a few characters for awhile to learn them more

[wraith cargo]

that's good. Some characters just highlight different aspects of their kit when you put them together in a team

same as how you wouldn't use some abilities in solos but they are great in trios

[orchid star]

if you rlly don't wanna play a char thats popular then just don't play lyam, tessa, wuchen, or matari those are the most popular solo chars cuz they're the strongest in solos right now. Keyword: right now it could change with any balance patch which means you may pick a char thats not super popular in solos one season but is suddenly the most popular the next season

so i would focus on picking a char that genuinely fun for you to play

[wraith cargo]

^

[orchid star]

just don't pick kurumi or monk if you only play solos

and you want to keep your sanity

[charred spire]

Ok that makes sense

[rich urchin]

Tessa mentioned

[compact ledge]

@olive sun

Any good set of glyphs for lyam

[olive sun]

just standard glyph set honestly

[compact ledge]

Now i gotta know if your main is lyam😭🙏

Guy’s not putting any passion in it

[olive sun]

😂 no i've tried multiple glyph setup on him but they doesn't perform well

[compact ledge]

I’m playing with tarka’s glyph

[olive sun]

this is fine

[compact ledge]

It’s what im using lol

[olive sun]

tbh aside from this standard glyph plan

i got just another plan which put some points into purple that i use in trios for some heroes

but for lyam eh just take the straight 18% F cd

[kind ginkgo]

I wouldn't really recommend this one tho 🤔🤔

That left side purple tree is imo pretty useless 🤔; there are rare cases where you need augmented resistances after ressing someone, since the Res is usually performed outside a fight

[olive sun]

uhh it's after picking up a soulbloom not ressing someone...

[kind ginkgo]

Ah, they changed it 🤔👍

[compact ledge]

Soulblooms are the red thing that gives you hp right

[olive sun]

yeah

and rage

[trail kindle]

Are there any matari combos videoa

[kind ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/VXaQhL5b5G8?si=sBYF1MCZ5JDMBUfO

[sly condor]

What about Tessa?

[indigo mulch]

🎉 | Shikkoku 漆黒 leveled up!

[kind ginkgo]

Tessa isn't what I d call a combo character

Not much could be done with her kit 🤔👍

[sly ember]

Unless you count the simple uppercut with a V1

[trail kindle]

are this still possible after the update tho

[analog berry]

Hey can i get best matari abilities for trios

[kind ginkgo]

Matari rework happened after netcode update, yeah 🤔👍

[kind ginkgo]

F2 V2 for all modes; you can pick v1 for team modes if you want to offer a bit more of support, but that's up to you and to the comp u play 👍👍

(also F1 works, but I would say it's only place is either solos or duos)

[wraith cargo]

take V1 if you got a Zai in your team

[analog berry]

I got a justina and a ning

[kind ginkgo]

Then V2 is good

V1 has only a use of you have the need to make your team invisible 👍🤔

[rich urchin]

Why is justina gu so hard

[kind ginkgo]

No specific reason 🤔

It just takes a bit of practice with camera movement, quick thinking and timing👍

Which is also the reason that it's not recommended for beginnners

[rich urchin]

this worked REALLY well, we did this when i played valda for a challenge and we got like 8 people stunned - thanks for the recommendation!

[compact ledge]

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1286185822835703889

[kind ginkgo]

Yw 👍👍

[wraith cargo]

Any ideas how to improve that?
It's not true but perhaps for cases when the enemy has abilities on cd? Her other combo only deals 901 dmg with gold weapon, so I hope to get more out of her.

[kind ginkgo]

do that in a double uppercut

should work

i can try and send you a clip once i'm back home

[wraith cargo]

would be great

[drifting pollen]

Any buggedhai tips?

[final pawn]

Hope and prayers

[terse birch]

Does anybody remember the spoilers chat ?

[orchid star]

It got changed into discussion chats

[elder egret]

May I per chance have that clip too?

[kind ginkgo]

I m not at home, I'll send you the sec I come back 👍👍

[wraith cargo]

Can sb give me an overview of duo comps and how good they are?

[kind ginkgo]

nvm, not doable

[supple sage]

y

[dawn bough]

Am I tweaking

I feel like this valda change was some hot trash besides the ult buffs

[wraith cargo]

on the third point - is there any difference now between the vertical charge and horizontal charge? I hoped they would bring some more variety to zai but I don't see any difference

[olive sun]

does zai always get higher jumps during ult? 🤔 or is that a new feature

[kind ginkgo]

Always did

Because she has a higher speed

[kind ginkgo]

Maybe some dmg diff? 🤔

[wraith cargo]

it's the exact same. I guess they just wrote it by accident or meant vertical and horizontal

[olive sun]

could it hit airborne target before?

i nvr play v1

[wraith cargo]

same, they for sure made the animation faster. I was just hoping they made vertical and horizontal different

[opal depot]

yeah only differences are jumping vertical and horisontal

[rich urchin]

hey guys is there anyway way people can provide tips on how to learn Feria Shen?
i dont wanna just spam V and get 20+ kills a match yk?

[slate sierra]

If you’re talking about feria in trios you should be running V2 (the beacon) and letting your teammates use it while you farm your rage back up

Also idk what rank you are but when you get to higher ranks mech doesn’t = free kills. People will tap dodge the cannon shots or start shredding you with ranged weapons

[rich urchin]

ah okay! thats why i thought id ask for tips, because playstyles are starting to change, i didnt wanna get too comfy with the way im doing it

[rich urchin]

okie dokie!

[slate sierra]

as people start dodging your cannon shots what you want to try and do is delay the shots a little to force them to waste stamina and then hit them when theyre low/out of stam, as well as just focusing the right target with your team so they cant just purelyt focus on dodging your shots since your teammate is also on them

[rich urchin]

who would work well with feria shen in a team comp?

[slate sierra]

she used to be run in a comp called cannonball with yoto and yueshan

[rich urchin]

seems fun, we’ve mainly been running s mix of viper/kylin or viper/kurumi - so this helps alot!

[slate sierra]

viper usually benefits more from characters with strong lockdown or setup to confirm her ult (tessa charm, temi ult etc)

i could see feria being used to cover kylins weak state after his ult

dropping beacon for him so he can hop in once his ult is done for safety (assuming kylin is v2 and will be low hp coming out of ult)

[rich urchin]

would Justina’s wraith count here aswell?

like v1/v3 justina

[slate sierra]

any kind of lockdown helps yea but i think the biggest thing with viper comps is just coordination on target selection and making sure your teammates can lock someone down while viper is channeling

also paying attention to terrain, viper wants to fight in open spaces where its harder to break LOS

viper ulting in places like celestra with tons of buildings/corners etc is pain since people can break LOS quickly

[rich urchin]

that makes alot of sense actually, its super easy hitting her ults really big in my elo so its super hard to learn (the lobby is 1 massive teamfight)

[rich urchin]

understandable tbf, is it worth picking up valda too with Viper/Kurumi?

i havent read her rework yet

only zai

[slate sierra]

Valda VI is sometimes used to wombo combo with vipers ult since it guarantees that the ult channel lands as they can’t escape the wave in time but wombo comps are risky. If you miss that one ult your team fight falls apart

[rich urchin]

what would you reccomend as an ideal team comp with viper? my friend ONLY plays her.

ideally id want to play like feria or justina, my other friend on kurumi, kylin or matari - but all suggestions are welcome cause youre the helper

[slate sierra]

Viper Tessa Wuchen is the standard viper comp in pro play

[rich urchin]

ah i think we tried that comp once but my bf didnt like wuchen

[slate sierra]

In ranked you can make tons of things work though you just have to communicate well

[rich urchin]

based on what ive seen in the last week or 2 of playing it seems very based on cc and a transformative ult. so we’ve been trying to do that-

thank you so much for all your help! youre so kind

[slate sierra]

Trios is very ult heavy yeah lol

[rich urchin]

theres also way too many shayol wei for my liking

also skynyx i had one more question - i keep seeing shayol wei’s ride big white horses but cant seem to find it in her kit? is it like a hidden V?

[slate sierra]

If someone’s riding a horse it’s actually probably the souljade called OverComer for Polesword

Has nothing to do with the character, just weapon and souljade

[rich urchin]

ah i was tricked cause i only see Shayol Wei’s using it

tysm for all the help!

[slate sierra]

Ofc happy to help

[empty swallow]

well wuchen has been reworked since then

so that comp plays differently now

it's not as op as it used to be because wuchen could just get everyone out safely, and your whole team disappears from the fight without a trace after wasting the enemy team's ultimates

but viper + tessa is a strong combo, plus any support

viper + yoto also works great

viper can make them helpless against yoto ult

so try those if you want to combo with viper

think of it like this

viper is the initiator - viper calls out which enemy you're going to focus on, she grapples, silences them, ults them, keeps them helpless and isolated from their team

then someone follows up on that, yoto or tessa for example, and the support is playing a bit more of a backliner role, while the other two are frontliners

make sense?

feria can also work as support

experiment with these picks but apply the same strategy

just make sure viper is calling out who to go on, staying on the frontline, and the rest of the team follows

[rich urchin]

Viper Valda/Tessa Feria?

Valda is preffered more than Tessa

[empty swallow]

im not sure about valda

i dont play her or play with her much

[rich urchin]

her ult is just longer than Ning’s and hard cc so they cant move

its just harder to hit than ning

[empty swallow]

well like i said try things out for yourself and your team

key is communication

[gritty geode]

Is feria V1 good in duos/trios, is the dmg reduction for the team viable or is V2 an overall better option?

[compact ledge]

ult economy wise V2 is better but if you want a tankier version of the mech then play V1 both are very viable ultimates

[solar lava]

I havent play in a decent time and recently came back, I saw matari skills are reworked, what is the better F and V for her in trios ?

[slate sierra]

F2 is the better F as it’s gold when charged so can offer peel, kill secure, and can be used as a combo starter. Ult really depends what you want to do. Only V1 resets ally abilities and provides team stealth but V2 allows you to teleport directly onto a target and release blues in their back

[orchid star]

just be careful of parry cuz they added 360 parry

[dry nexus]

Is zai good in trios? If so what team comp would be good with her?

[kind ginkgo]

yes, really strong

anything with a healer works with her

[dry nexus]

Sick ty

[kind ginkgo]

np

[empty swallow]

yes

someone who can initiate on an enemy with her and/or disable them, plus some type of support

[quaint moth]

Is valda s tier again guys?

[empty swallow]

i've seen her a lot recently but i don't feel she is so dominant

maybe bad players, but that is all i can tell you now

i see her ult, i'm not feeling the "OH SHIT, I'M IN DANGER"

[opal depot]

her v2 still feels pretty weak at least in solos

[kind ginkgo]

It's decent 🤔

Hard to hit usually tho, if the enemy knows what they are doing

[rancid oracle]

Feria duos tips? Like when do use ultimate and what kind of playstyle i should be using?

[rain yarrow]

What characters are meta currently? Anyone know?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends, solos or trios?

[rain yarrow]

Both

[kind ginkgo]

Trios : zai, Kylin, kurumi, matari,... (Mostly depends on the comp you are playing; but I am not expert in that subject)

Solos: Kylin, matari, Lyam, Hadi I would say 🤔

But don't pay no mind to this; especially at the beginning I would recommend working on the fight itself, more than on the characters

It's always better to use a bad character while knowing how to fight, than using a "meta" one and not knowing how to fight

Ideally you can reach unrivaled Asura with any hero and any weapon, as long as you understand the fighting system and can put into practice what you know in theory 🤔👍👍

[worn spindle]

kurumi best in solo

trst me

[kind ginkgo]

[worn spindle]

[summer hinge]

how do folks like the Valda changes? She was my first love, but haven't played in an age because of the nerfs. Excited that she might be back

[worn spindle]

yh she viable now

[empty swallow]

not enough

I'd rework her ult to remove the HP shield and buff her spear capabilities and threat level

I still don't feel threatened by her ult at all, and for an ultimate, that's not good

[thin owl]

The removed my multi bomb water thing

Aad fahks

They take away everything i like from characters i diddle with

[sturdy holly]

No they didn't take those multi water thing away.. they merged it with F1. you have to hold f to do that

[tardy gulch]

what happened to game i didnt play in last 1 year 😭

[kind ginkgo]

Updates happen 🤔👍

[proven fulcrum]

@kind ginkgo why are they removing more skills from the game

it used to be cooler with how many builds you could run (3 f's, 3 v's), but we're approaching only 2/2 now

they removed the Feria F I actually used

[kind ginkgo]

From what I understood they are trying to simplify some things to make the game more accessible to a wider audience; some could prove me wrong tho 👍👍🤔

[proven fulcrum]

I hate this 😭 this is what makes people stop playing

Kylin received no nerfs while 3 random characters were gimped

[kind ginkgo]

Nah, this is not true

If you are playing the game for literally 1 single ability smth is not right here 🤔

Imo at least

[granite yoke]

Am new , any noob friendly characters for solos?

[kind ginkgo]

The game hasn't gotten simpler at all, and if you notice, the ones they removed so far, are the skills that tend to be used the least

Sure, combo lovers used feria f2, but on paper, no one used it, because F1 and f3 were simply better

Why keep smth not used in the game 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[kind ginkgo]

Hello!

[granite yoke]

Heyo

[kind ginkgo]

For starters I would recommend trying out every character in free training 🤔👍

The most important thing, especially at the beginning is to play what you like

[granite yoke]

[kind ginkgo]

The most important part of the game is the "neutral", the way you fight; some characters are "stronger" in the sense that they help you skip part of it or simply are more forgiving

But in the end, if you manage to get decent at fighting it's possible to do anything with any hero

[granite yoke]

I like the aesthetics on yoto hime and zai are they easy to pick up

[kind ginkgo]

Zai is for sure beginner friendly 🤔👍

[granite yoke]

Thanks

[kind ginkgo]

Yoto is a bit harder, but mostly because of the fact that her ult is harder to hit as soon as someone learns how to stay calm while facing it

[proven fulcrum]

I get it, but it's like, I enjoyed playing a specific way with some of these chars (like matari pre-nerf) and then they get reworked

[kind ginkgo]

It's really easy to dodge

[proven fulcrum]

Riot games did it a lot too

[kind ginkgo]

U can still play matari as if she were pre nerf

Just play F1 v1 🤔👍

[proven fulcrum]

She had a reverse teleport skill

The outplays on that F were amazing

[kind ginkgo]

Updates on older characters, reworks, are bound to happen on any game

[proven fulcrum]

100%

[kind ginkgo]

If they were not done, the older characters would simply stop getting played, because significantly weaker than what the game asks, and also the game would simply become boring

[proven fulcrum]

I just think the mentality of 'if it aint broke, dont fix it' is applicable here

[kind ginkgo]

I don't see where 🤔

They specifically targeted things that didn't get played, and made them objectively better 🤔

[proven fulcrum]

I highly doubt removing Zai's third ulti will correlate to a new player boost :S

[kind ginkgo]

But her f buff will 🤔

And also the removed ult was simply not played

Now aswell everyone plays V2 anyways

Cuz burn is op

[proven fulcrum]

[thin owl]

Yea i found out later when i went to practice mode! Ty

[inner grove]

My friend plays Wuchen, I don’t know what to play in duet with him, I sometimes play Valda but I find that she lacks potential

[simple dome]

what would u play as a beginner for solo? startet 4 days ago

[wraith cargo]

I think Zai, Kylin and Tessa are beginner friendly and decent picks for solos

Personally I liked to play Ziping in solos when I started bc you don't die immediately but she has no combo breaker and no offensive abilities

[river sky]

Does anyone have a tier list for solos duo and trios after the update?

[vapid anvil]

what about yoto hime

[kind ginkgo]

Scroll up a bit; we answered this question a lot lately 👍👍

(not much changed after the update; the real meta shift will be when the new hero gets released)

[empty swallow]

i dunno about zai, she's got a learning curve to her

if you just spam hits with ult like all noobs do, good players will dismantle you like you are nothing

not to say she's bad, she can be very op, but you need to know what youre doing

[kind ginkgo]

She has a learning curve, but considering you start from the bottom, she's way more comfortable than other heroes 🤔👍

Imo no single hero can be learned in just a game 🤔👍👍

[river sky]

Thx found it

Also is matari good?

I was using kylin and doing decent as a new player keepup with sm irl ppl most of the time i stick till top 20 in solo if im fighting otherwise when im running around maybe top5

Used matari v2 f2 in solos a little bit tough as there is no escape keep getting clapped

Any tips?

Trying to main matari and kylin cuz they look cool

[empty swallow]

I introduce: hadi, ziping, kylin, tessa etc.

[kind ginkgo]

Easier, but I don't autowin with those 🤔👍

[wraith cargo]

I don't play much yoto, so take it with a grain of salt - easy to pick up, she has some insane combo potential which requies a lot a practice though and if you don't utilize the combo potential, the other heroes just bring more to the table. That being said, almost every hero is viable in every mode so if you like her, just play her and you'll find as much success as with other heroes. Only ones you don't want to play imo are Kurumi and Tianhai in solos.

[simple dome]

i just heard that zai only works good with a healer, which speels would u take for solo?

[kind ginkgo]

Take the combo break and for ultimate everything is fine, but the burn on V2 is really strong

Zai does not need a healer, but having one boosts her power by a lot, so this is why it's strongly recommended

[empty swallow]

whoever told you she only works with a healer is wrong

but of course in trios you really want to have a healer, because zai will get focused

so that she doesn't die in 5 seconds

[kind ginkgo]

👍

Exactly; it is also important to know that when in ult, and especially when in golden focus, she takes way less dmg 👍

(or a bit less)

[fair venture]

Which hero is best for combat ?

Kylin and Yoto are my main 😭

[kind ginkgo]

Wym by best for combat?

Combat is decided by your personal skill, not the hero you play usually 🤔

[fair venture]

Hero's skill also matters

im tryna use Akos from a while but he is not doing well

[fast shard]

For trios , I am feeling that Takeda V2 works a lot better than Takeda V3 .

Especially Immortal wars

what do you think

[kind ginkgo]

All depends on your team comp 🤔👍

[olive sun]

lol no

takeda v2 is useless

don't even bother

[fast shard]

i am just astral on SEA , so , team comp is just playing together with my wife. she main Yoto

what i like about v2 is it gives a true combo breaker for takeda , and Yoto + Takeda ulti is quite good ( we are no where near competative level yet)

@olive sun i still suck with v3 , i perform really bad using v3

also doing long comobs in trio is not really viable because other teamate or enemy will interrupt , where V2 cannot be interrupted

(unless they have a combo breaker)

But may be that i am sure i just need guidance with V3 and i might be doing wrong iwth it

[olive sun]

you don't use takeda v2 for ''long combo'' on trios

[fast shard]

yeah i don't i mean for v3

v3 is mainly supposed to be use for combo starter and extender ri8ght?

[wraith cargo]

What abilities for Viper btw? Duos and Trios

[olive sun]

as long as it's not f1 and v2

[fast shard]

i use v2 as finisher , or start

[olive sun]

that's the thing

it's too weak to be a finisher and too dumb to be a starter

while with v3 is great either defensively or offensively

for your whole team

trust me if you're running v2 takeda on trios then you're missing ALOT of the character potential

[fair venture]

One friend of mine Uses Akos V3 and I use Yoto V1
We hold then Rush with our skill heheh ^^

for crowd controling

[fast shard]

ok

then i will keep trying v3 , but i must be doing it wrong

i ran out of 3 charges quickly

[olive sun]

v3's damage and amount of charges depends on your whole team's weapon arena

so tell them to pick up alot of high grade weapons

prio buying weapon bags

[fast shard]

yeah mostly got up to purple

[olive sun]

purple is 4 charges alr

don't spam them

aim for getting** at least** 1 blue out of a furen, either yours or your mate's
or gamble release your blues, if you got parried you got furen to cover up

[fast shard]

ah i see

[fast shard]

so instead of trying to get combos with neutral , try to dish out more blues? i am mainly trying to get atleast basic ACCA combos with it

[olive sun]

we're talking about trios right?

[fast shard]

yeah

i mostly only play trios

[olive sun]

ok now i see why

[fast shard]

because most guides are comobs everywhere

[olive sun]

furen allow you to skip neutral bcoz it interrupt like, everything

and can be used under any situation

even when you're cc'ed

doesn't interrupt your other inputs too

so the way you should use furen in trios

offensively: charge blue, send out furen just before you release your blue, this make your blue parry-proofed, you can do the same with teammate's blue
defensively: follow your teammates and let them release their blue first, or you can release your blue, if either of you got parried, send furen out to interrupt enemy's counter attack

[thorn pulsar]

hello can someone help me in showdown on matron of yushan ?

[olive sun]

don't try to use it as the ''combo starter'', well technically it is, but your goal is not using it for a single combo of your own but to stagger your enemies so your whole team could throw alot of blues into their faces

a good takeda v3 user literally negate every attacks throwing at him AND his teammates who stand close enough to him

[thorn pulsar]

T_T

[olive sun]

maybe go #👾┃showdown

oh u're sea?

come i'll help

[thorn pulsar]

yes yes

[olive sun]

gimme id

[thorn pulsar]

2064700020168

[thorn pulsar]

Nirriti ruins and omniuos yushan ❤️

[fast shard]

thanks a lot thats what i am missing

[thorn pulsar]

Thank you @olive sun ❤️

[olive sun]

[fast shard]

I am trying this way right now and really effective , new spear also make it easy

[fast shard]

viperning silence is way too strong

8 second silence

is way too much

[olive sun]

yeah
and with 18% cdr the cd is only 12s

[fast shard]

yeah that crazy

and skill animation is way too fast . unexpected

also need big silence icon if i got silenced

[glossy nimbus]

Hello! Just reviewing my Ranked Solos footage, and I was wondering if anyone can give me some advice on what I've failed here at? (Sorry for two vids, I can only clip 60secs at a time lmao)

Please be kind ==ll

...Also yes, my skill didn't proc when I got stuck on a rock ==ll

What the enemy had:

[kind ginkgo]

Sure, gimme a few mins to get home and I'll see what I can do 👍👍

[glossy nimbus]

thank you!!

[kind ginkgo]

ok, there are a few things that could've been done better

the biggest one in my opinion tho, is that, especially when you are not attacking the enemy, you are not holding focus form

so this basically prevents you from being able to not get staggered

just to make sure, have you heard, when playing the game, the term "hold checking" being mentioned? 🤔

[glossy nimbus]

Mhmm!

[kind ginkgo]

ok, in that case this is exactly it 👍

i suppose you paniked a bit when you saw tessa appearing in your face, right?

[glossy nimbus]

I’m not very good at the second step— after we both either parry or dodge out of the hold check, what do I do next? (Panic. The answer is panic. XD)

[kind ginkgo]

basically you have to consider the fight this way:

1. you both see each others and start the fight
2. you start holding focus (negotiation phase), and start faking releases, by dodging and cancelling the actual focus attack, in order to see what your enemy's reaction is

3. you get an opening or you find one or simply manage to hit your enemy

(or the way around)

this is the "combo stage" you could say

4. the second someone gets thrown to the ground, this means the combo is finished; in the second you hit the ground you cant get comboed for as long as you are prone on the ground

5. tech chase : --> he who did the combo will try and follow you when you try to get up; if the catch you successfully they will be able to combo you again; if this does not happen, everything gets back to the point 2

the most important part is to always try and be in a state of focus attack (blue when you are charging the attack), because it negates strikes from light attacks (white), and this opens you the way for a lot of things 👍

[glossy nimbus]

I think I lost all sense of calm when my skill didn’t proc and I got stuck in the rock. Missing my combo off the cliff and running straight into the Tessa ult didn’t help me XD

[kind ginkgo]

in the clips you sent, you tryed to simply run away the second that the enemy had the advantage, but you were not threatening to fight back at all; so they could do all they wanted basically

[glossy nimbus]

(Was waiting for you to finish, thank you for writing it all out for me!)

[kind ginkgo]

yw

[kind ginkgo]

definitely 👍

a calm mental is really hard to mantain always; everyone paniks at some point 👍

with practice, you will expect things to happen, and this means that you will be able to stay calmer in more situations 👍

[glossy nimbus]

Mhmmm. What’s better for Tessa ult? Run out of range? Or grab your soul?

[kind ginkgo]

ideally dodge it

[glossy nimbus]

Can’t dodge in midair XD

[kind ginkgo]

but if you get hit it depends

[kind ginkgo]

you can 👍

it's called air walk 👍

but definitely it does not work always

once you are hit you have the option to try and contest the orb, to free yourself, or to run away

[glossy nimbus]

Damn. Yeah. Need more exp on dealing with that ult.

[kind ginkgo]

usually if you can, it's always better to threaten the orb or try to output the most dmg you can 👍

if you dont get stunned is best 👍

[glossy nimbus]

Ahhhh… should’ve used my ult to heal and push back then.

[kind ginkgo]

after the nerfs last season, you can now free yourself from the tessa ult really quickly, so you just need to throw her a bit

[kind ginkgo]

exactly 👍

or also your f1

which you used in panic right at the beginnig

try to hold that until they start hitting a combo on you

[glossy nimbus]

Mmm that’s a habit I’ve been working to break

[kind ginkgo]

it takes time

it's strictly connected to the panic

[glossy nimbus]

Tend to do it by instinct when a grapple lands on me that I wasn’t expecting

Gives me space to see what’s going on, but also leaves me without combo breaker. That one I know I need to work on

[kind ginkgo]

against the grapples you can hold focus and threaten to release in their face 👍

[glossy nimbus]

Oooohhhh

Alright, I got things I can work on. Thank you so much for the help!

[kind ginkgo]

np

glad to have been of help

[honest dawn]

question yall, ive been loving yoto Hime, but im not sure who else i should start unlocking

[orchid star]

whoever interests you

[kind ginkgo]

your best bet is to go into practice tool , and see and try what you like 👍

over the time you are going to unlock all of them anyways; the rest is just chosing the order ; and this is done by picking what you feel like you would enjoy

[rancid oracle]

Any takeda tips? (Also best duo ability pairings?)

[wild musk]

F1 V3 use your ult to peel/guarantee blue focus. I recommend pole sword. Loot fast and get high tier weapons fast. Depending on comp you most likely want the higher grade weapon. Try and use F1 before the initial engagement.

[solar lava]

Try to parry blue even if ur F1 activated

[muted bluff]

0.0

[kind ginkgo]

#👾┃showdown 👍

[empty swallow]

if you like damage dealers your other options are kylin, hadi, zai, akos

maybe shayol

imo kylin is the best

[spring dock]

does anyone what is glyphn plan i am new to the game

i am using kylin

what is the best glyph plann for my hero

[kind ginkgo]

Check out the pinned comments, we have there a nice comprehensive guide to the glyphs 👍👍

[empty swallow]

I use this on kylin

[kind ginkgo]

You want skill CDR on Kylin tho 🤔

Both have really long cooldowns 🤔

Imo at least

I play more around my f than my ult

[empty swallow]

i'm full ult

want to spam that 24/7

[kind ginkgo]

I'm a combo freak 😂😂

Maybe this explains it 😂🤔

[empty swallow]

oh I use combo breaker F

[kind ginkgo]

oh, makes sense

[rich urchin]

like how does Wuchen work - ult wise?

[empty swallow]

Like it says, you set a teleport point away from the fight that lasts 150 seconds, you go into the fight

If something goes wrong, you press V and your whole team within 40m is out of the fight

[kind ginkgo]

and it can also tp your teammates' remains

[rich urchin]

HELP I FORGOT YOU CAN READ THAT

is Wuchen still the best option if my other friend subs Tessa for V1 valda?

[kind ginkgo]

yes, should be

but valda viper is a cringe comp , i'm against it

[empty swallow]

Ye

Well call it cringe if you want but its meta

[kind ginkgo]

ahahha

fair

[empty swallow]

but i dont recommend u swap tessa

valda is just less effective at doing the same thing

[kind ginkgo]

less ults aswell

she's just stronger for duos generally

[empty swallow]

tessa can be rly scary

and valda no one really cares about

oh no water girl is ulting

tap dodge

ult dead

[kind ginkgo]

harder to tap dodge v1 🤔

[empty swallow]

i mean valda is useful to have on enemy team

she can wash away our sweat after a hard fight

[kind ginkgo]

😆

[analog berry]

So best bet is dropping valda all tgt then just main tessa in the comp?

[empty swallow]

tessa is better in that comp

[kind ginkgo]

Agreed

If you get telmuch tho, it's prolly worth to try using V2 sometimes, if you see that you lack dmg

[analog berry]

What skills will be good for tessa F1/V1?

[kind ginkgo]

yes

[rich urchin]

F1 V1 Wuchen?

[empty swallow]

y

[rich urchin]

thanks! (i was using the right one)

i hit platinum for the first time btw thanks to your help marko!

[empty swallow]

no problem

nice

you will go higher

[ancient bolt]

Hello, I’ve been watching pro players use kylin ult v2 and when they do they only lose health as they ult, when I do it I lose health and armor any idea what causes that? Or what I’m doing wrong

[olive sun]

the only explanation is you got attacked during it

and lose armor bcoz of that

[ancient bolt]

Hmm unless I’m blind that wasn’t it but mebbe a lot of was going on

Thanks

[limber stirrup]

Is it smart to main 1 hero or should I be playing with more than one? For glyphs sake (Im a nub)

[kind ginkgo]

Glyphs are generally standard DW; same set goes for multiple heroes 👍

As for maining; DW, play what you like and it's totally fine

[limber stirrup]

ah okay, tyvm!

[kind ginkgo]

Yw!

[quaint wolf]

I can't send images but my friend changed color of her outfit.how would I be able to do it?

[kind ginkgo]

You can change colour only of star skins, which are a limited version

Normal outfits are locked in that color

[quaint wolf]

How would I have gotten it?

[kind ginkgo]

Star skins are usually released when a new. Treasure also gets released

You have a chance to find one when you find an extreme cosmetic in that specific treasure

But be careful; since there is a limited number of them, they usually finish a week after the release at most

[quaint wolf]

300 dollars in a week is crazy 😭

[terse crag]

Guide on Takeda pls?

[mystic hollow]

is there a way to go less far with justina's ult?

[broken hound]

@empty swallow i apologise for the ping is zai good for soloes?

[empty swallow]

you can cancel the dash by attacking

[mental lion]

when u F through your enemy, use jump or hold to stop

or attack them xD

[empty swallow]

i just got back to the game after 2 seasons, but i hear she is not as strong as she used to be

she used to be meta

@kind ginkgo can tell u about the current meta better

[mystic hollow]

I saw someone post a vid and he spammed his dash attack while in the air

he didnt move past the enemies

[empty swallow]

i know which vid ur talking about

[mental lion]

its all about timing

[broken hound]

I dont rlly care abt meta i just want a character thats fun to play

[empty swallow]

that is subjective

[mystic hollow]

timing what?

[empty swallow]

he timed the dash cancel just after he hit them

and it kept resetting because he hit 2 enemies with it

not sure which button he used to cancel it in the air, but you can try in free training

[mystic hollow]

alr thanks ill try it

[mental lion]

when u use your upper cut, u can follow your enemy with F in the air

and when u see yourself touch the enemy use jump to cancel the F then repeat

it very hard because u need to time it right

[mystic hollow]

yoooo tysm guys

[mental lion]

but it just for highlight xD, very useless ingame btw

[kind ginkgo]

What do you need specifically?? (I can answer in about an hour; ATM I'm busy 😅)

[wraith cargo]

How is tianhai in duos? Any comp worth to make pick him?

[kind ginkgo]

Depends on the tianhai, but not really

Yueshan does a better job

[wraith cargo]

ty

[kind ginkgo]

I wouldn't recommend zai for solos; she can shine her brightest when there is a crowd of people, since it's easier for her ult. In mid to low ranks and against some people in the higher ranks she can be really effective tho 🤔👍

[empty swallow]

more of a trios char

[rich urchin]

hey marko? whatre the BEST trio comps rn, doesnt have to have viper

[empty swallow]

a meta trio comp without viper?

THE meta one includes viper

viper tessa wuchen

i can teach you the formula though so you can make your own comps that make sense competitively

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic5gwfexRX8

[rich urchin]

thanks! im trying to get me and my friends to expand our horizons because naraka is starting to make my friends tilt (they hate the cc)

i might just need to practice Wuchen and his timings more

[rich urchin]

do you have any guides for Wuchen as a character? (and maybe parrying and how to dodge dual halberds )

[empty swallow]

i just got back to the game after 2 seasons and i haven't played wu chen yet so you might wanna look elsewhere forthat

but

i can give you the basic idea

he's not complicated it just takes decisionmaking to play him right

ur team is gonna be the people who wanna fight and are bloodlusted

and u have to be the one who decides when to reel them back in

and get them out

your F just heals

use it as an armor heal

your ultimate, you should use the teleport

you play in the backline

you set a point before the fight somewhere, then your team starts the fight, if anything goes wrong you teleport everyone out

and reset

or you start the fight, get them to waste their ults, teleport out, heal, then go fight them with their ults down

you can get creative

you can even teleport your team's dead bodies away

so if someone dies you can res them safely

as wuchen you're the "oh shit let's dip" button

and your team trusts you to get them out when it's dangerous, so they go full-send offense

make sense?

[kind ginkgo]

About parrying try this
https://youtu.be/7vMIlhsdQuE?si=bhsYsJGRyJdszllX

For Dual wield weapons it's the same as fighting any other weapon Pretty much 🤔; it just takes the nerve to not press the parry button

Parry is an insanely aggressive callout in this game; failing it it's way worse than eating the full dog of the focus attack; try to always dodge when you think there is a chance they could release; it's going to leave you with more options 👍👍

[empty swallow]

parries like this are so important to learn i second this

so many people will give you literal free wins by spamming these unsafe attacks

you can get free parries like this

if you just learn to do this, u will easily win twice as many fights at least

[broken hound]

Interesting. I just wanted to 1 trick a character but im not sure who (i only play soloes)

[kind ginkgo]

what kind of playstyle do you like to have?

all heroes are viable; some are a bit stronger, but the most important thing is that you play smth that you enjoy 🤔

the best starting point would be to go into trhe free practice and try them all out, try and see if there is anyone that you like or that resonates with you

since we are talking about solos, i would recommend maybe avoiding kurumi, tianhai, yueshan, since their kit is mostly for team modes 🤔

[broken hound]

Really good question for now i just know that i dont like hadi at all and i enjoy playing kurumi(im a bit odd)

[broken hound]

Oops

[kind ginkgo]

?

[broken hound]

Wait theres free practice??????

[kind ginkgo]

its fine if you like kurumi; it's just harder

[kind ginkgo]

ep; find it in the game mode selection, same place as the tutorials

kurumi , tianhai, yueshan rely a lot on neutral; they can't help you with their skills mostly, that's the reason i wouldnt recommend them for solos

[broken hound]

I wanted to main wuchen at first but i heard that ge is horrid in soloes

[kind ginkgo]

but it's possible to play them; maybe not as a beginner

[kind ginkgo]

he's good 🤔

not broken

but good, especially after the rework

u just play f2 v2 👍

[broken hound]

Ooooo

[kind ginkgo]

v2 can provide a ton of dmg and stagger; f2 can provide a disengage and a combo starter / extender

[broken hound]

Interesting

Thank you so much

[olive sun]

you miss your f2 it gonna be free combo starter for the enemy though

[broken hound]

Im motivated to try wuchen now

[broken hound]

I always give my enemies free comboes( im way too used to parrying normal attacks)

[kind ginkgo]

just have fun 👍