🔱┃weapons-combat

[split spire]

as training

or do what I did and change crouch to R instead of C to make it even easier

[sweet canyon]

my grapple is on my side mouse button and crouch on cltr

[split spire]

tf are these keybinds bro xd

[sweet canyon]

hey for me cltr has always been an crouch

[split spire]

ctrl crouch is so wrong

crouch is so important

[sweet canyon]

ever since ive bene 12

[split spire]

it needs to be an extremely accessible key

[sweet canyon]

im 26

[split spire]

im 25

[sweet canyon]

yeah pinky presses it perfectly

[split spire]

whatever lol I prefer having combo-based inputs on the same line on my keyboard

[sweet canyon]

for me c was never an crouch

[split spire]

my grapple is Q my crouch is R

so its seemless to me

[sweet canyon]

as a kid did not play cod nor bf

[split spire]

R RMB Q

very easy very smooth

no finger travel time

hands directly on top of all required keys

[split spire]

same

as a kid games always had c as crouch

but c was always unimportant

or not urgently required mid combat

[sweet canyon]

so is cltr

[split spire]

unlike naraka where its required

yeah

agree

but my muscle memory has been set to make ctrl/c unimportant mid combat

meanwhile R and Q are always important

[sweet canyon]

i agree

[split spire]

cool

[sweet canyon]

css/tf2

[split spire]

and crouch in naraka is important

so to R it goes

so is grapple

[sweet canyon]

r goes to repair

[split spire]

i made repair c

switched crouch with repair basically

repair is so unimportant mid combat

[sweet canyon]

unless you have repair roll?

[split spire]

which then i'd like my muscle memory to use something close to shift

cuz its a dodge

and repair roll btw isnt that good anyways

rolling is not good in naraka except vs certain ults

[sweet canyon]

funny thing is i did do the true combo but my replaybuffer was off now i cannot replicate it or rewatch how i did it xd

[split spire]

u prolly just pre-inputted everything

btw something cool about training for naraka is if u train right before u sleep

the next day u wake up u will feel the thing is natural xd

[sweet canyon]

would not know got only 75 h in this game

and recently restarted playing it

[split spire]

i have like 2.5k

xd

[sweet canyon]

i have about the same in apex legends

[split spire]

the amount of training arcs i have been through in this game is kinda insane

[sweet canyon]

meta is so bad i just stoped playing it

[sweet canyon]

thats what i like about naraka

[split spire]

im still learning new stuff till this day

2.5k hrs max rank btw

the skill ceiling is so absurdly high

[sweet canyon]

thats great isint it

whats still slow

grapple

or start of blue attack?

[split spire]

u held blue for too long

position of grapple is slightly off

its recommended to hit the uppercut from the front side of the enemy

rather than their back or side

u need to release blue at exactly 1.0 timing

if u release at 1.05 u miss the combo with ur fps

[sweet canyon]

so like superglide in apex legends?

[split spire]

idk about apex xd

[sweet canyon]

ah mb

its an imput where you need to press 2 buttons at the almost same time so you could dash forward i cannot say how precise but its hella usefull

[split spire]

yeah same concept

ur uppercut and grapple need to be pressed about the same time

[sweet canyon]

bruh

[split spire]

ur held blue needs to be buffered

and u need to release it at exactly 1.0 timing

people call it 0.9 blue because its the first possible time to release the 1.0 blue

[sweet canyon]

ill take break for lil ive done this for 20 mins and now my brain keeps duing the RMB clicks even doe its supposed to be LMB

[split spire]

yeah take a lil break xd

dw u will get it down

and it will become very natural to u

for me basic grapple combo is now just a reflex i dont even think about it

and can do it with my eyes closed xd

[sweet canyon]

is there an way to increese field of view?

[split spire]

uh i dont think so

(not that i tried)

btw just wait until u see more advanced combos

like carrousel or 211 carrousel xd

[sweet canyon]

ive seen some ppl on yt that kill players midair meane while keeping them midair

[sweet canyon]

seems fun to play aganst ngl

no that was lie

[split spire]

dw u have combo breakers

soft breaks

ults

[sweet canyon]

yeah but if they are on cd ur kinda fked no?

[split spire]

and this combo requires kinda flat terrain as well

[split spire]

no cuz u can use movement to run

until u get back F

or if ur confident u can just rely on ur good neutral to win anyways without losing neutral once

[sweet canyon]

ngl me constanly failing at the true combo starts to get to me

[split spire]

trust me

the key is

do it before u sleep

then wake up

and do it again xd

[sweet canyon]

yeah but beofre sleep i should be able to do it sometimes

and not keep failng at it

even doe i do the imputs as fast as possible

[split spire]

its faster than the possible ur thinking about xd

and again try focusing on hitting the enemy directly from their front

and focus on the grapple position

[split spire]

okay biggest issue here

was uppercut angle

u did it from the side

which is a big nono

also u can hold W or S or A or D before u uppercut to adjust ur position

then take ur hands off directional keys

before the uppercut

[sweet canyon]

i feel like todler and i wanna kick somthing

[split spire]

watch how here i position myself to be infront of the enemy

before i uppercut

[sweet canyon]

how do i constantly stay in ''front''

[viscid kelp]

For basic combos (and even double uppercut tbh) sideways is no issue though

Carousel I can agree it's best to learn one angle first

[split spire]

he is 120 fps and new so its better to just do it from the front at the start for an easier time

[viscid kelp]

Mmmh I think 120fps 40ms has decently easy time for all angles on katana
LS is prob a bit of a diff story since LS focus releases slow as shit

But mostly I'd just change the wording, sideways isn't a default big nono
Just can be harder, and it can be easier to focus on one angle at first

[sweet canyon]

idk i just cant do it

not mater how fast i try to do it

[upbeat wagon]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/lo1aZKiVs4xW0BCbV?invite=cr-MSwzQWwsMTY5NTg3NTM4&v=16

Now I just needa perfect my timing so I can do it better

[viscid kelp]

It can take some time to learn
It's not a crazy idea to take a break and get back to practicing it the next day

[sweet canyon]

i dont wanna be perfect today

i wanna get it every 1/3 tries

not fkin never

that what icks me

from the front pretty fast graple knockup

still doges

[upbeat wagon]

When so u start charging?

U can also hold right click after ur uppercut if that helps with timing. I also do it like that

Uh this one is w inputs shown

[split spire]

this isnt front at all

this is side

try to hold S when u hold shift

LMB S hold shift LMB (take hands off S) uppercut

[upbeat wagon]

That also

[sweet canyon]

when im on the ground otherwhise it just autoattacks on air

[sweet canyon]

i dash to far and he just dashes out

[upbeat wagon]

As far as I know it's necessary to pre input (hold) the charge during grapple or else u can't release it fast enough

[split spire]

then use W

u gotta improvise based on distance etc

[sweet canyon]

i use it and i dashes on its side

[split spire]

show me

[split spire]

this is just wrong

u need to move away to ensure the angle is right

bro u gotta know how to at least click WASD keys to reposition urself xd

[sweet canyon]

but i do click s and stuff

keeps dashing forward

[split spire]

ur not holding S enough

this is mid dodge animation

which is hold dodge without directional keys

[fierce wigeon]

@split spire hey

can i ask u something about hook?

Where should I shoot it, in the middle of the circle or the edge?

[split spire]

ur fps makes it so it doesnt matter

only ppl with lower fps need to think about this

[fierce wigeon]

i don't know what is happend with my compo

all my problem just wiht the hook

[split spire]

With longsword just grapple the enemy instead of the ground

[fierce wigeon]

can u look , what's the wrong with me

[split spire]

Oh this

You are not doing the pause

You need to pause a little

[fierce wigeon]

how

just stop ?

[split spire]

Just stop yes

[fierce wigeon]

and here

i pause

but still

[split spire]

U waited too long

[fierce wigeon]

Lol

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[split spire]

Yeah it’s a specific timing xd

[fierce wigeon]

I do it sometimes but only by chance, but I want to do it without chance

[split spire]

Get down the timing

And do it from the front only

The pause timing is key

[fierce wigeon]

How long did this combo take you to learn? @split spire

[split spire]

Well I had no one to tell me to pause or anything and I had to learn it for my ping but it took a couple days of trying

Basically I had to discover how to do it on my own

And I had to do it on 80 fps

[fierce wigeon]

It has taken me 9 hours so far.

[dim abyss]

for this timing

it took me days as well

like 10 hours in total probably

[fierce wigeon]

oh

[dim abyss]

it wasn't easy

probably hardest combo related thing ive had to learn in this game

[fierce wigeon]

Omg

[dim abyss]

and normally im a quick learner

so for others it might be more

[fierce wigeon]

I expect that if I learned this combo 100%, it would make many combos easier for me.

[dim abyss]

idk

its a longsword/whipsword thing

[split spire]

Meanwhile I had to DISCOVER this pause players were gatekeeping this lol

It was like the moment of the netcode change

When combos became too different to execute

I was like “what if I pause a little” and it worked

[tardy fable]

what is it?

[split spire]

And in 2 days after netcode change I discovered this and all basic combos that didn’t involve 211

At 80 fps

100 ping

Extremely difficult conditions to learn combos

[split spire]

Non-211 carrousel

[tardy fable]

how does that work?

from what i know carrousel is when u juggle them after the grapple hit

[split spire]

Yeah

[tardy fable]

and 211?

was it bread and butter combo?

[split spire]

211 is when you juggle them after a 2nd uppercut

[tardy fable]

oh

ok

both are only >60fps

[split spire]

Yeah

I did it at 80 fps 100 ms

Extremely hard combo conditions

[tardy fable]

do u know any <60fps combos?

[split spire]

No lol

[tardy fable]

i have decent ping but only 60fps

[split spire]

Sht is bad at that fps level

[tardy fable]

yea

[undone anchor]

All combos are > 60 FPS 👍

[tardy fable]

besides bread and butter tho, right?

at least uppercut grapple focus is doable

[sweet canyon]

okay im back after 1 H break

i think graple was good

i failed bcs of the graple possision? or

[split spire]

This is decent

It will work against real players

But try to be a bit more smooth for it to work against bots

[sweet canyon]

what do you mean by smooth?

better grapples?

or faster blue attacks

or both

[split spire]

No I think ur issue was fps drop or ping spike

Ur ping is too variable

[sweet canyon]

my ping is stable at 40-42

[split spire]

It’s not

Literally watch the video u sent me

[sweet canyon]

got at 88'

[split spire]

Yeah that spike was sudden

And ruined ur uppercut a lil

[sweet canyon]

but everything else looked fine?

[split spire]

Yeah

[sweet canyon]

still cant do it tho on a bot

[sweet canyon]

our of curriostiy what is your ping?

what is true combo of heng sword?

[split spire]

Same thing

[split spire]

85 ms

But it’s steady 85 ms it doesn’t spike

And that’s mainly because I don’t have a server for my region

I play in a whole other region

[sweet canyon]

wait so heng swords combo is LMB LMB Upercut Rmb?

[split spire]

If my region had its own server like how it is with all other games I’d be 5-20 ms

Depending on the location of the server

Best case 5 worst case 20

But nope no servers at all

[split spire]

Yes

It’s the same combo

Also nunchucks

The same combo

Dual blades and dual halberds too

[sweet canyon]

but with heng sword LMB LMB upercut LMB works same

no?

[split spire]

Although dual blades and halberds are soft true on the 2nd LMB

So the full true combo just uses 1 LMb and directly uppercuts

[split spire]

Yes

For all these weapons I mentioned

It works the same

[sweet canyon]

bcs with heng sword i can do combo like almost every time

[split spire]

It’s the same

Katana Heng nunchucks have the same exact combo

Staff is the same combo but you only use 1 LMB and directly uppercut

Dualblades and dual halberds are the same as staff for full true combo, but they can also be the same as katana and heng for the “soft true” combo

Fistblade has a unique but quite easy combo

Knives has its own unique combo too

[sweet canyon]

can you send me an vid of daggers ''supposed'' playstyle

[split spire]

Longsword and whipsword are similar to katana and heng but their combo starter is not LMB it’s RMB. So you do RMB shift RMB uppercut.

[sweet canyon]

i remeber you calling it chip damage

[split spire]

Sure I can if I remember I will send it to you later today

But it’s better if you remind me

[split spire]

Finally xd

[sweet canyon]

blue relise has to be very thin i guess

bcs i can do the LMB LMB Upercut graple decent

[split spire]

Yeah it is

[sweet canyon]

oh ill send another vid

i wanna ask somthing about it

[split spire]

Sure

I may go afk for like 2-3 hrs I have a doctor appointment

Ttyl

[sweet canyon]

thanks a lot!

[split spire]

Just post everything u need here

Remind me in 3 hrs

So I send u the dagger vid

[sweet canyon]

will do

[split spire]

Aight

[sweet canyon]

can somone explain how to do blue dash cancels? for effective movement?

[undone anchor]

It's not 🤔, or it shouldn't be normally

Unless you have like 10 ms

[tardy fable]

sometimes

[undone anchor]

On the training bot?

[tardy fable]

yea

[dim abyss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ERpDpM4tck

[sweet canyon]

is it like that?

[undone anchor]

Without the attack, but the idea is correct, yes 👍

[undone anchor]

Weird 🤔

But possible; afaik 60 is possible, 75 is stable 👍🤔

[sweet canyon]

afaik?

[undone anchor]

As far as I know

[sweet canyon]

so like this but with no errors?

[undone anchor]

You can hold focus a while longer

U need to find the moment where the character stops waling

[sweet canyon]

then dosent it then slows down the movement

also do i have to do it with LMB or RMB or both

[zenith elbow]

slowing it down a little bit is better, at least you have iframes when you dodge and when you blue focus you can’t get caught by a white attack, unlike if you accidentally throw out an attack

[undone anchor]

RMB uaually

[undone anchor]

Nop, it makes it more fluid

[sweet canyon]

is there a clip of somone using/practising it

bcs i just can't get the timing down

[trim sail]

dodge while still holding rmb

[dim abyss]

ye

just sometimes u will dash out of it before u attackk

sometimes u wanna do the attack

[tardy fable]

i hit a double uppercut 2x, after spamming combos for a few hours

[dim abyss]

with experience u willl understand when

[analog oyster]

just came in to ask about how Precision Swap works, cuz i'm literally just straight up confused on how it does imo

[tardy fable]

what’s that?

[analog oyster]

uhh

idk but it's in the control menu and i have no clue what it does

[split spire]

the attack is actually optimal when ur being chased down

[analog oyster]

oh and i can't send pictures and links here so yeah

[split spire]

it prevents enemy from grapple staggering u

but it slightly slows down the speed

so when u are RUNNING AWAY u use the attack

when u are chasing u dont use the attack

[analog oyster]

ooo

[dim abyss]

bro what is that lol

[analog oyster]

IDKK???
is this some new feature or smth??

ah finally

here!

the one below second weapons

[lusty beacon]

wow

[dim abyss]

eh

i need to check myself

never seen this

ohh

i know what this is

it's a new feature

don't use it

it's for swapping ur item with something on the ground in a different way but honestly i don't lie it

it feels weird to use

just learn to quickly manually swap

either with replace equipment or by opening inventory

[analog oyster]

awh man!! thanks a lot!!!
you really saved my headache and my backpain at the same time :p

[split spire]

an example of how to use dagger

[sweet canyon]

a general question at what rank one could cosider himselfe good?

[split spire]

when u can beat players who participate in tournaments

[sweet canyon]

bruh

[split spire]

btw the guy in the video is currently the best player that lives in SEA

the one im fighting

he defeated me 23-5 btw

i was only able to win against him with dagger (3 times) and nunchucks (two times)

any other weapon is unplayable against him

he has perfect spacing

he will parry everything

u cant release any blue on him except dagger blues or nunchuck delayed blues

[limpid yacht]

is there a good Tutorial for the 0.9 charge?

[split spire]

I made the mistake of playing katana against addicus lol

[dim abyss]

Agreed

dont be daunted by that though

u can catch up

just need to learn the right things and get some experience

and get stuff into your muscle memory so you can do it without thinking

being good has nothing to do with rank since you can reach highest rank without being good, just by playing enough matches

[zenith elbow]

[sweet canyon]

what is the best way to start true combo

[sweet canyon]

with parrying?

I NEED HELP

I Cant win the fucking things to start combo off

like wtf im duing wrong

like where can i practise 1 v 1s

for combos and stuff

i want to be good not mediocore

[storm heron]

Hey everyone! I was testing other glyph schemes to optimize my gameplay and came to test that disengage glyph, but I noticed that it never turns green in matches. When I tested it in practice, the same thing happened. Is there any conditional besides getting hit?

I'm using this scheme to test

[lusty cosmos]

For most weapons it is horizontal into uppercut. Longsword starts with vertical instead. Dagger/fan, and greatsword/polesword have no true combo into uppercut

[lusty cosmos]

Go to free training and put the combo bot with combat mode on

[undone anchor]

Fan can start it from the wind wall , crouch attack jade (unsure) and from the other jade that swaps the dash attack 👍)

[split spire]

trapping dodges with true combo start light attacks

[sweet canyon]

what does it mean trapping dogges

dodges

[split spire]

i explained it before bro...

u asked me the same question like 2 times already

it means predicting or reacting to an enemy using dodge (more so prediction) and using a combo start light attack in the direction the enemy is dodging to trap the end frames of the dodge iframes

thats the best way to catch players in a combo

aside from reacting to certain free punishes

like tap/hold dodging longsword 1.0 into combo start

or nunchucks V

[undone anchor]

Or, if u parry them, u can cancel the counter attack animation to fit in an uppercut eventually, but it's generally less useful

[split spire]

next time u have a fight record it i wanna see

[limpid yacht]

what is the best Parry guide?

[split spire]

experience

everyone's experience varies from ping to ping

its best to rely on ur own experience to get down parry timings

and also just know that u can sometimes rely on spaced out/dodge parries

[sweet canyon]

.

best clip so far

prolly missplayed a lot missed damage

also

[split spire]

u could true combo here btw

its not bad, I just noticed u have so many openings tho

u should never stand still or run close to an enemy without holding blue

[sweet canyon]

i should have done true combo there right?

like LMB LMB upercut graple and RMB

[split spire]

yeah

although the jade u had changes the combo a bit

[sweet canyon]

wait it does?

[split spire]

well yeah it changes uppercut to a blue attack

[sweet canyon]

could you show me how to do that combo then or should i just forget about it for now?

[split spire]

the combo that is most commonly used with that jade is 2x uppercut in a row into jump LMB

[split spire]

i'd say forget about jade specific combos for now

u wont find them everytime

[sweet canyon]

valid

thanks king

[sweet canyon]

is there a way to learn about jades an such from videos or so?=

some times i just get 1 shooted by blue attack from 100 to 0

and no clue how

[split spire]

Whenever something that feels weird happens to u just clip it and send

We can tell you what went on

[split spire]

Not sure a lot of jades have been recently released

You can find guides but they are usually on Chinese social media

[sweet canyon]

Bruh

[zenith elbow]

Can you explain what tomes are?

[split spire]

they are books u get from capturing yang spirit well which spawns after 1st yang

it will highlight a big yellow circle on the map when it spawns

if u capture that point

u get a tome

[zenith elbow]

thanks

what does it mean when your yang gets depleted?

(from not capturing the well)

[split spire]

which is a card-like skill that u can use that has golden focus and deals really high damage or stuns the enemy

[split spire]

it means u have a time limit

to either clear yang depletion

or ur gonna die

to clear yang depletion you need to eat the soulbloom found in bodies after someone dies

[zenith elbow]

how do you see your yang

[split spire]

or to consume one of the blooms that spawn on the map after spirit well capture fails

[split spire]

if u just look at bottom left

u will see a timer

[zenith elbow]

Ok thank you! 🙏

[split spire]

if that timer hits 0 and u didnt cleanse

u die

[tardy fable]

hi, does anyone have a video where all the grappler skins are showcased? im strugling to choose, i have 2100 gold and a 50% off ticket

[undone anchor]

There are multiple, for their single showcase

You find them on their release

[tardy fable]

oh ok

[cyan falcon]

Am a rusty lil fox

[lusty cosmos]

Dojo signups are open for saturday #🏋┃dojo-coaching

[undone anchor]

Let her cook

[cyan falcon]

I wish lol i suck now

[undone anchor]

Still better than me 🤔😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[zenith elbow]

what should I be hitting the enemies with when they get viper stunned?

[naive plaza]

Blues

Unless it’s a transformer in which case you might want to shoot them from range

Most people just spam 1.0s on stunned targets, there’s no point in trying to combo them since you can’t lift them when they’re hard stunned

[lusty beacon]

x

[split spire]

never give up xd. This guy untrue'd me and made me abuse him back, dont untrue me if you arent low ping.

xd

[random lodge]

How do you guys do all this ... I can't even do 1% of that

[split spire]

do what

most of the things here come from experience

[random lodge]

Being this good I mean

[split spire]

just play xd

u can become this good quickly if u train a lot

[random lodge]

Idk I think playing on console is why it's impossible to become half good

[split spire]

or slowly over a year or two of casual play

[split spire]

there are good enough console players

plus if u understand the fundementals u can do well even with console fps

obviously it wont be as good as PC high fps

[random lodge]

It's either the game is hard to be good at or I'm just bad lol

[split spire]

its hard to be good at cuz

its really reliant at gaining experience

[random lodge]

Yeah true

Hopefully the dojo thing could help me improve some stuff

[split spire]

6 months exp me would get slaughtered by 1 year experience me and 1 year experience me would get absolutely destroyed by 2 year experience me (me rn)

ur individual skill can make u destroy others who have higher experience at an earlier time than usual

[random lodge]

Yeah same goes for dbd to be honest

[split spire]

for example rn im destroying a lot of 4 year experience players

becuz of individual skill

[random lodge]

The game been out for 4 years now ?

[split spire]

yeah

[random lodge]

Wow

[split spire]

first 2 years it was pay to play so it wasnt known much

[random lodge]

#🏋┃dojo-coaching u think this could help me ?

[split spire]

then it became f2p 2 years ago

[split spire]

yes

[random lodge]

How ?

Even weapons or what

[split spire]

no, u just needed to pay money to download the game

[random lodge]

Ohh

[split spire]

thats the biggest issue that caused this game to not be as popular as it should have

[random lodge]

Yeah lowkey should've been same level as dead by daylight

It's so underrated

But too many sweats aswell

[split spire]

hopefully naraka 2.0 comes out at some time fixing the core issues

[split spire]

the sweats are just players with lots of years of exerpience, it wouldnt have been an issue if everyone was just starting out

[random lodge]

I mean they just be doing insane combos

I'm not sure if that requires any experience

[split spire]

not rly, u can start doing combos in ur first month if u train for them

so many ppl in this channel asked and learned how to combo

[random lodge]

Exactly and I think it's really hard to do combos on controller you know

[split spire]

nah controller isnt the issue

its fps

combos become way easier the higher ur fps

[random lodge]

Yeah probably

120 isn't enough I assume ?

[split spire]

if ur ps5 pro u get 120 fps which is decent

but the sky is the limit with fps in this game

240 will do them even easier, and 400 even more easy

[random lodge]

I feel like playing on more than 240 is pointless

[split spire]

not here

fps removing input lag makes ur hits faster

like literally

and faster hits allow more combos

[random lodge]

You made me lose hope beating up sweats now ...😭

[split spire]

no its fine

u can just play in console vs console

no need to enter PC fps stage

[random lodge]

Can I do that ?

[split spire]

yes there is an option for cross play off

i do recommend playing against pc players tho

u will become the best console player much faster

its better training

[random lodge]

They always hit me first

I end up dead after the first hit lol

[split spire]

at ur current level ur issue isnt fps its skill, u just need to learn

[random lodge]

True

[gloomy vortex]

To ba fairnmovement tech is just as important. Know how to move.

Tho I also meed to learn combos. Im only my first week tho, but i think I have been doing good

[sly ore]

in EU we have some people who play on 700 FPS and they get a huge advantage in neutral

if you think that high FPS isn't helpful, you probably never played on high FPS

or you are trying to lie to yourself to excuse not getting better hardware (easier to live that way)

[random lodge]

I'm not trying to lie to myself...

That's just what I thought

[sly ore]

FPS speeds up all the animations, i think someone made a comparison between 120fps and 300fps and it's ca. 10% faster everything on 300fps

you can dodge faster, hold blue faster, charge focus faster, bluetop more precisely etc

and you can do more jump LMBs to juggle people, which is OP especially downhill

120fps is borderline unplayable

one of the coaches says game is not playable sub 100 fps and i trust his judgement

when i get 150fps though i restart PC

usually i get 300-480

and there are still some people who get hardware carried against me lol

there are some situations where low fps can be an advantage though

when i played on 60fps, my CLMB on dagger was a generic tech chase that could chase both holddodge and tapdodge

now on 300fps i have to halfcharge it to catch tapdodge

or instantly release to catch holddodge

but being good in some areas doesn't mean it's good in general

higher FPS is always better because the pros outweigh the cons a lot

the only exception is that 1 FPS cheat that lets you infinite people

but ofc cheating is illegal and unethical

so don't cheat obviously

[sly ore]

ok, no worries if you are coachable lol

some people just insist on a wrong opinion

was referring to those

[jade gull]

Stares at tanhai that teleported that Akos 3000 miles into zone

[split spire]

xd

[dusky dew]

I'm new to the game. Is there frame data available on weapon attacks? I'm wondering if certain archetypes' regular attacks always beat others due to their speed.

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/my-sweet-summer-child-sweet-summer-child-game-of-thrones-gif-19977020

[lusty beacon]

x

[split spire]

I mean yes kinda but not the way you think

U beat other weapon light attacks by half charging

Half charging duration depends on the weapon ur getting hit with, how fast it is, how much animation end lag it has.

Then there is ping and fps into the equation

It’s just a headache and extremely hard to make a guide for

Every player has to find this out on their own.

[meager trail]

u got better fps and ping ur blue gonna eat ur opponent's blue

it's literally an arms race at this point

[wary escarp]

Well, no, to simplify, your fps affected your animation speed, your ping determine stagger, so data frame is not able to exist

[meager trail]

the game be like ''wow yeah you dodged it i see but here take this attack anyway''

this is why even if i faced a micro accel cheater i won't be able to tell if he's a cheater or not
because on my screen people who fps gapped me already move with super speed

[wary escarp]

Look like a case of hold dodge and get hit due to iframes only exist for little bit to me

[meager trail]

all of the dodges i did in this clip are tap dodges

i don't use hold dodge anymore because it never works and i WILL get caught every attempt

[wary escarp]

The first one is, the second one your character started walking after a bit from what I see

[meager trail]

and if you can't see that close range whipsword lmb combo starter into 2x rmb which rubberbanded me into the uppercut after an issue

then i don't know what to tell you

[wary escarp]

yeah got hyperfocus on the second dodge, the 3rd one is straight up rob

[meager trail]

not just the 3rd dodge, the whipsword lmb combo starter AND the triple light attacks into uppercut too

i should be able to dodged out after i get hit by the whipsword 1st lmb but my input gets eaten
after that i should be able to dodge out after i get hit by the 2nd rmb but my input, again, gets eaten
then when my character finally able to perform a dodge on my screen, i get rubberbanded back into the uppercut

[wary escarp]

Which lmb?

[meager trail]

oh it's a rmb lol mb

i thought it was a lmb

[lusty beacon]

x

[pine copper]

@lusty beacon bro u better stop saying x in everyday chat

[charred cobalt]

how to use this

[split spire]

no, this is a ping issue where ur dodge end frames are untrue trapped

[split spire]

This is ping more so than fps. Although these ping robberies happen more when enemy animation speed is high enough due to fps or micro accel

The new hero at least will not get rubberbanded this way luckily..

New hero only gets rubberbanded on start up ping robs

[meager trail]

idk i mean if you want to dodge an attack you need to time it right not spamming the dodge button
with low fps the enemy attack animation showing on your screen is longer (but it's actually shorter than that on the attacker's side) so the timing is tighter for you to dodge it, but it's much easier for them to do the second attack follow up (because their animation is finished on their screen while in ur screen it haven't finished and you can't dodge it when the animation haven't finished yet)

so their attack came out so fast, like the previous animation JUST finished for like .2s and they already landed another attack on you

literally 0 window to dodge

[split spire]

I understand that tabbie, but low ping can still dodge btw

If u have high fps urself

Ur still getting robbed the same way

High fps doesn’t help u as a defender

It helps u as an attacker

[meager trail]

yeah i mean anything has everything to do with ping and fps in this game

ofc there's stuffs that related to fps more than ping and vice versa but they're both responsible
not to mention ur ping even tied to ur fps

[split spire]

I mean ig the rare exception is faster blue hold when ur ping is low paired with high FPS

But generally high fps doesn’t help me get robbed less, I still get robbed a lot

It just gives me more of a fighting chance where some of my things work

So it’s no longer completely 1 sided I can do something too

Albeit low ping can still bs dodge or bs hold blue when ur true trapping them as high fps if ur ping is high

[meager trail]

well at least u got high fps

100 fps trio life fucking sucks

[split spire]

Yeah I know

I used to be 100 fps in trios

My winrate and KD doubled when I upgraded fps

But my ping is insanely bad tho

Still is

And players with 100 fps 30 ms or less move at super speed from my pov

Despite me having 400 fps

Players with 50 ms or higher rob me in the worst possible ways imaginable

35-45 ms is imo the best ping to go against for me

Lower they are uncatchable even with super early prediction traps, they can bs hold blue or bs dodge. Higher they untrue me so fkin much to the point where nothing I do works

Players with the same ping or higher as me tho are manageable cuz I can untrue them back the same way they untrue me

So it evens out

[meager trail]

like i don't even know

how am i supposed to play now

i got robbed in every fights

rely on enemy's animation to parry never works

[split spire]

In ur case an fps upgrade can be insanely huge because it also reduces ur ping

[meager trail]

i need to predict parry like WAY earlier

but doing so enemy will read my habit

and overhold

and i get fuck

like

[split spire]

Yeah I can predict parry a 123 or predict dodge nunchucks block counter attack and I’m getting hit anyways lol

[meager trail]

legit idk how to play now aside from playing a transformer

like get into the fight, trynna hit some blues, then ult when needed

aside from that legit no other way to play

[split spire]

Use spacing

U need to skill diff ur enemy

If ur the same skill if they have higher fps or lower ping or both forget winning

[meager trail]

how when even my tap dodge gets eaten, even a fast camera turn into a hold dodge away i get caught anyway

[split spire]

Yeah I know the whole point is to always be at range from them

And to read them like a book

[meager trail]

yeah but that's the thing, even if i succeed at avoiding their attacks i create no pressure

and i usually play characters that are supposed to create pressure

[split spire]

Say you play zai

Send F

Hit them, dodge light attack or JLMB follow up then

Then space out and hold a long range blue focus focus

If they wake up parry, overhold punishes them if they hold blue space out and look for a punish

[meager trail]

that... doesn't seem to be a pressure at all LMAO but i mean, if i just focus on surviving and only send my blues when i'm 90% sure they couldn't parry then i'd be fine

but the situation usually don't allows that

[split spire]

Also face to face blues have certain punishes.

Nunchucks vertical can be tap dodged into light attack combo start

The average trio player doesn’t know how to counter this

[meager trail]

also whenever i send my 123 i get parried when even my 123 predict parry fails

[split spire]

(When it’s literally just releasing at 1.1 timing)

[meager trail]

like what the fuck

[split spire]

Try to not rob ur enemy because they could be low ping and they are unrobbable only do it when ur enemy is clearly an obnoxious high ping player

[meager trail]

i got my hand on my friend setup with a 9800x3d and holy fuck the 123 blue looks SO SLOOOOOW

like

they glows blue then an eternity later the attack lands

[split spire]

Doesn’t mean u will be able to parry them btw

Ping diff is still there

[meager trail]

if i got like 300 fps my ping probably gonna be like 30ms or something

[split spire]

Yeah then ur good

What’s ur current ping and fps

I went -15 ms when I went from 100 fps to 400 fps

[meager trail]

in matches when there's no one around my fps went to like 160 170 and ping is like 45

1 team = 120 fps and like 55ms, any more than that my fps drops to 100 or lower and ping goes all the way to over 60 sometimes even 70

[split spire]

In trios having a better pc is such an insane upgrade because when multiple players are in the same area fps drops can get so disgusting

[split spire]

Your gonna prolly be around 37 ms

With high FPS

37-40 imo

[meager trail]

to think that when i first started the game i get 35ms in training room with the same setup

now idek what the fuck happened

even my training room ping refuse to goes under 50

most of the time

[lucid citrus]

is the longsword juggling still a thing? I was trying to learn some combos but whenever i hit them with the rmb they get sent flying

[tough ice]

Can someone teach me tips and tricks for naraka on Xbox ? For one how do I heaven step ? How do I move out of a spam combo aswell ?

[split spire]

it is there yes

ur not holding W

thats the isssue

[meager trail]

so how earlier do i need to parry for this parry to hit? 🙂

this is the moment my character starts the parry animation (loses blue focus state)

1 frame later, valda still haven't released her blue yet, meaning this is a completely predict parry

and i get hit anyway?

[viscid kelp]

Consider that there is a crouch cancel inbetween, which does still cost frames

[meager trail]

i didn't crouch cancel

that's just how the dh parry animation looks like

[viscid kelp]

Do you use quick parry or composite excluselively

[meager trail]

quick parry always

[viscid kelp]

Then I believe it crouched for you, but I get your point that DH parry anim inherently looks a bit crouched

Lemme double check so I'm not tripping

It for sure crouched

[meager trail]

yeah check it

it has always been like this for me

[meager trail]

100% not because i don't even do crouch parry

i rarely even press crouch if not for an uppercut

[viscid kelp]

Usually quick parry should scissor parry for you whenever possible, since scissor is faster than all other parries
But scissor parry does not look crouched once you're a bit into the DH lmb focus anim

[viscid kelp]

Quick parry crouches for you when necessary
It's a slightly glorified macro

[meager trail]

''when necessary'' you means all the times cuz this is how my dh db parries ALWAYS looked like

will it changes if i do jump parry?

[viscid kelp]

with quick parry this time

[viscid kelp]

Afaik the way quick parry works is to always pick the most optimal parry in a given situation
So pre 1.0 -> scissor parry
Post 1.0 -> crouch parry
In air -> standard parry

The only exception is while running
While running the optimal parry is standard parry, but quick parry executes a crouch parry

which is actually a net frame loss

You might have gotten this case
Where you just baaaaarely reached 1.0 and quick parry therefore opted for a crouch parry

Because your character 100% crouch parried, 0 doubt

Idk if there is a window where a scissor parry would still be possible and quick parry does a crouch parry instead, maybe there is

[meager trail]

oh yes it did

i didn't know that the game just crouch parry for me

[viscid kelp]

Yee

Quick parry used to legit just be a macro, a bad one

[meager trail]

just tested and it's exactly like you said

[viscid kelp]

Now it's an ok one owo

[meager trail]

if i haven't reached 1.0 my character won't do the crouch animation

but if i even BARELY reached 1.0 it will do the crouch parry

[viscid kelp]

Yee
Was prob quite unlucky, if the input was like 20ms earlier you have a realistic chance of parrying
Although with ping we will never know

[meager trail]

so will my parrry be better if i just do jump parry instead?

[viscid kelp]

Mmh no
Jump parry is the slowest I believe
A crouch parry will still be faster
Scissor parry is the fastest

Which in turn means post 1.0 you just inherently parry a bit slower than pre 1.0, because you lose access to scissor parry

I think the only real purposes of jump parrying are 1. the extra magnet and 2. spending recovery frames mid-air so the window within which you can be caught by a combo starter is narrower

[meager trail]

but it got the pull

like it will pull me toward the hitbox

so it can delay the moment the blue hits me to make room for my parry to be active no?

side by side comparison, now i know why my parries always feels so sluggy 🙂

ig i have to practice using scissor parry now huh

[viscid kelp]

In some cases but I don't think that'd apply to DH lmb focus

For example I think jump parry is good vs dagger lmb focus, because it's a dash -> uppercut where only the uppercut portion actually deals damage, and in my experience jump parrying can displace you in just the right way to get more time on parrying the uppercut portion

But I think DH lmb focus would just slash into you either way, because it is 2 actual hits

(into uppercut portion)

[viscid kelp]

Quick parry should scissor parry for you when appropriate
But if it doesn't work reliably for you, then yeah probably

[meager trail]

😭

[viscid kelp]

The issue is that I personally use a mix of both composite/scissor and quick parry, depending on the situation

[meager trail]

i mean

[viscid kelp]

And idk when I use which tbh

[meager trail]

even my dash parry failed

so idk anymore

so ultimately it boils down to ping and fps again?

[viscid kelp]

I will say that backwards tap dodge into parry vs staff 2.0 is

not the line I'd choose probably

I think if you dodge in that direction you are chilling, cuz the wall would likely protect you from the initial dash

either way sideways would be safer though

[meager trail]

it's a hold dodge tho 🤔

[viscid kelp]

even if the wall is scam

Oh ye I'm blind

mb

lmao

I still believe sideways dodge is likely a bit safer, given how straight fowards staff dash is

[meager trail]

i mean yeah in the end the game read it as ''my parry didn't happens because i got hit before that''

but i mean dodge parry supposed to works as long as i suceed at the dodge right?

yet it fails anyway

[viscid kelp]

Mmmh that's a fallacy I fear
If the attack hits you fast enough after the dodge, you will always eat shit, even with hold dodge->parry
For that specific clip however there is a chance it might work if you were really really low ms

[meager trail]

so it's all about animation speed which is fps and network delay which is ping again

i see

but a hold dodge parry will always be a scissor parry right?

because i no longer holding blue

[viscid kelp]

I mean, not really
Any ping/fps can hit another ping/fps right after their dodge
The only thing that changes with ping/fps there is when the input has to be given for that to happen
If you were super low ms they might have had to give the input earlier, if they were higher ms they definitely would have had to give the input earlier

But that doesn't really impact the reality that dodge->parry isn't a safe line vs a blue

Just changes how the line has to be executed

[viscid kelp]

I think it's worth differentiating between composite and scissor parry
Composite is just lmb+rmb, scissor is if you hold down say lmb, then let go of lmb and press rmb
The difference is small but I actually believe scissor parries are ever so slightly faster than composite parries

To answer your question though, I think the fastest option after a hold dodge is a composite parry (because scissor requires a short hold, which delays it)
However since a hold dodge usually leads into running, you might run into that whacky part where quick parry actually does something unoptimal when running and parrying with it

[split spire]

random trio queue in a nutshell... teammates insta die, and I have to res them all smh

[split spire]

i 100% would have parried this early

[viscid kelp]

tl;dr for hold dodge parry, I recommend hold dodge->composite above all else

[split spire]

my muscle memory was screaming parry early asf xd

in situation like this i only charge to .2

then parry

[meager trail]

thanks Takao, 2 years of playing and i have no idea that the game will do a crouch parry for me if i held pass 1.0

😭

[viscid kelp]

Would be asked too much of the game to actually explain shit to you

this is Naraka, we throw newcomers into the black pit

[meager trail]

oh yeah on this matter i figured out why i fails the katana uhh float (?) combo

[split spire]

okay first time knowing this lmao

[meager trail]

now i can do it consistently (still won't be able to with my fps during matches but yea)

my mistake was to spam the lmb after landing

while it must be timed and press 1 time only

[viscid kelp]

Oh ye I think timing can be slightly faster, although it's hard to tell honestly
Good job for figuring it out either way

and rip to the fact that it's impossible ingame

[meager trail]

i figured it out because of the dagger lmb c lmb

[split spire]

isnt jump parry

[viscid kelp]

Even though I now have a privileged setup, I feel with your pain
To this day I remember being robbed of a fan infinite cuz my ingame fps was dogshit

[split spire]

faster than crouch parry

or am i tripping

[meager trail]

dagger lmb c lmb combo, if i spam the lmb after the c the character will do a weird ''wiggle'' before the clmb come out, therefore delay the animation and make it no longer true
but if i time it right and only press lmb 1 time after the crouch, the wiggle won't happens and dagger lmb c lmb is true
then i noticed the katana lmb after landing got that too if i spam the lmb, so i tried to time it and press it 1 time only and it works

[viscid kelp]

I believe it's ever so slightly slower, and only really used for the magnet/reduced on-ground recovery frames
But feel free to challenge that belief

I wouldn't bet money on it, it's just what I feel and mentally adjusted to

[viscid kelp]

Oh yeah I actually know the jiggle you mean, ya

[meager trail]

i know spamming buttons in this game is extremely bad but i can't help it, my inputs gets eaten all the times with my ping and fps

so most of the time i had to press more than once for a chance for it to happens

also when my fps suddenly drops the game is like, cancel all of my inputs on the spot
like if i hold dodge it will become a tap dodge
if i try to hold blue my character will cancel the hold and release a light at the moment my fps drops

[split spire]

there are two factors to this combo

first one is placement of grapple

it needs to be as close to the start of the circle as possible

if from the back u want it even closer

from front slightly further

2nd factor is delaying jlmb

from back there is very little required delay

from the front there is an extremely small delay that u need to do

[viscid kelp]

Generally speaking the higher your fps and lower your ping, the more leeway you have with grapple placement tbh

From experience just through holding W for the right amt of time, I can grapple p much wherever I want

Cuz medium->low ms and high fps just has grapple bump privilege

[lucid citrus]

is this string possible or does it go too far away for 1.0 to connect?

[dawn maple]

yes but tight

[undone anchor]

If u don't dash back u reach 👍

The main issue is backwards dodging for 211 here

It positions you slightly outside reach

[eager nest]

This game should make the combos esier to perform. It's so difficult to make it with high ping. There is no new player bc he have no chance against old players

[undone anchor]

U can learn everything. Same as old players learned by putting in thousands of hours, same can do new players TBF 🤔. Up until 2 years ago we had insanely easier combos, but that resulted in high ping people having an unfair advantage against everyone due to ping interactions.

Combos are meant to be hard; if you could oneshot everyone from the get go the game wouldn't stay alive for much, since every fight would be decided by a single interaction.

Then again, it is clear that high ping and low FPS are a problem for this specific game and it's due to multiple reasons. Some improvements will be made, others won't. If it's ping issues, unless they add new servers, nothing will change for the time being

[eager nest]

Combo give u a big advantage but how to start the combo is more important. And dont forget the visual. combo with the hook looks terible. I think they should remove it and make all weapon combos become as easy as the fistblade's

[undone anchor]

Definitely not. Smth being hard to learn isnt a reason for it to be removed

We got some unfair combos removed from the game already, like heavenstep for example. It was insanely hard, but it could oneshot an enemy

Also, all combos start the same way pretty much: combo starter light attack into uppercut 👍🤔

My recommendation with a game like Naraka is to try and learn harder mechanics progressively and to keep a positive mindset. It is only normal for people that have 10k + hours to beat new players without breaking a sweat, and this is true for every competitive game. Effort + time = better performance 👍

Then again, high ping and low FPS are indeed an issue,but grapple combos or combos in general ain't the problem here🤔👍

[eager nest]

Imo, grapple combos looks not good. And I think 24 E also want to close the gap between players by making character's skill more powerful or empower weapons. But the best way to do this is make the combos easier to perform. Still can the old players outplay the newbies with their experiences. Right now they easily insult the newbies

This also fix the ping problems between players

[undone anchor]

Rn experienced players don't need combos to destroy new players. We could just roll catch continuosly someone that is panicking. It's not combos that make the game feel unplayable as much as lack of knowledge

[undone anchor]

Not really

Ping problem is latency on moves and delay in animations 🤔. Slingshot effects mostly

If u win neutral by spamming focus attacks because someone on high ping is very difficult to parry, that's the main issue

Combos are dependant on waaay to many factors to simply dismiss them like that. It requires skill to perform them, as it requires skill in every game to do the hardest stuff.

[eager nest]

Ofc there are always gaps between players' skill. But the change will makes newbies feel much better

[undone anchor]

It wont

Combos ain't the issue

Also newbies dont play against top players

Or very rarely

The main issue when someone is new, js learning how neutral works. What hold checking is and how a fight is constructed

These things are generally explained in a bad way by the game tutorial, and they also require practice. Neutral is king, combos come second

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=8TNwdiSI2hu587yu

This might help a bit

[eager nest]

If u look at steam DB u will see a big drop in player base since last year. None come to this game and many left

Bc the game is only fun with a minority of players

Who have time to practice these combos and high skill moves

[undone anchor]

Nop, it's mostly because they don't want to learn neutral / don't understand it

[dim abyss]

Skill issue

30 minutes in practice mode and you will know combos

It's really not hard at all

Check pins in this channel

Also learn 211

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-LgfwQWfO4

[eager nest]

NVM. I do not intend to convince you to accept losing your advantage over newbies after hundreds of hours you have spent mastering these combos

[rich talon]

[undone anchor]

My advantage lays not in combos , that's the issue 🤔. But sure, I guess we can't change your mind nor positions on combos

[viscid kelp]

If you need hundreds of hours to master basic combos, the issue is most definitely you

[dawn maple]

naraka is a competitive game with a very high skill ceiling. If it's not to your liking, you are free to play other games

[sly ore]

your perspective is quite uninformed

learning combos doesn't take hundreds of hours

what takes hundreds of hours is learning which tech chase catches what and how to avoid getting caught, movement, improving awareness and decision making

on the road from where you are now to a hypothetically perfect player, combos are maybe 0.05% of the total distance

if you complain about the difficulty of combos, this game is too hard for you

and it's not because of gatekeeping or some imaginary world where veteran players don't want to give up their privileges and you are the victim

that world only exists in your head

in this game, anyone can defeat anyone by constructing better mindgames and making better choices

we don't even see a particularly strong correlation between time spent playing and a player's skill

by tendency, watching others play and thinking about it improves your skill more than playing yourself

most of the non-CN players who qualify to world championship spend more time watching chinese play than playing themselves

[split spire]

they dont even require much practice

u can learn them in a day if you just ask us to help u lol

many ppl did ask and learned it within the day

[split spire]

there is

but highly skilled players have a faster learning curve and the newer u are the more things u can learn

so if ur learning curve is good u can surpass most players in a year or so.

[lusty beacon]

xd

[sly ore]

bruh

there is a correlation, but it's not strong

you elaborate that yourself in your description

it's like i'm saying the tree is green and you say no, the tree is the color that comes out when you mix yellow and blue

at this point i feel like you just disagree with people and hold on to outlandish opinions because it's fun for you

that's enough internet for me today

[split spire]

Bruh it’s strong what are you talking about

A SKILLED and aware 1-2 months experience player can’t do sht to the average 1 year experience player

So it’s a very strong correlation

However a SKILLED player usually learns faster so they will naturally overcome existing players at some point but there WILL ALWAYS BE another skilled player who played before you and still has an edge over you with game knowledge.

[eager nest]

Learn to read before u speak

[viscid kelp]

Learn to think before you speak

[eager nest]

Nvm, I saw many kind like u

[jade gull]

Damn #🔱┃weapons-combat fandom getting spicy

Did new lore drop?

[tardy fable]

if u can’t do basic combos it’s definitely a skill issue, 211 and other little bit more advanced combos that require for u to have more than a few braincells are not that hard

or a fps issue

i can do basic combos on a ipad whit a controller on the screen, if u cant do them on kbm its u not the game

[compact island]

imspec is right, tho and the devs knows it, the money is in lame people like him, so we need more press button to win options

https://tenor.com/view/city-the-animation-kyoani-anime-button-mash-anime-keiichi-arawi-gif-16018295795424658547

reward me for my mediocrity please

and thanks

[waxen orchid]

i don't understand how to do a blue focus attack mid-air, can someone explain it; i always do a plunging attack and don't understand why even after checking so many videos (although they're 2+ years old)

[wary escarp]

To simplify, your character has different state depended on where they are and what they doing, which gives them different move when input is pressed. Running result in running attack, crouch result in ground attack etc.
The reason for you doing normal plunging attack is because you are in mid-air state. People usually hold dodge mid-air to change your state to running for a small window and then buffer their attack during that window to charge focus. Air dodge could be done after certain move like air horizontal or by swapping weapon (the ladder is harder timing wise)

I realized I complicate it instead of simplify it

[waxen orchid]

all good, so there's a slight frame that allows me to input a blue focus attack mid air?

so hold-dodge > blue focus attack?

[wary escarp]

Yep

Even tho I said the window is small, it is not that small, it might be around half a second window which is easy for human to do 2 seperated inputs lol

[waxen orchid]

oh am i able to input buffer it

[wary escarp]

Yep, buffer it

[waxen orchid]

also another question, is there another way for me to deal with normal attack spams like how the beginner bot in free training spams the m1 combo w/ flying knives, either than blue focus

[wary escarp]

you wouldn't want to do white attack chain because the stagger will go away at the same time it caught you in animation lock but you can crouch -> horizontal to reset back to the first hit of the chain

And if you just hit your opponent with the first attack, you should follow it up with some guarantee dmg depended on the weapon

[waxen orchid]

oh okay thank you so much 🫶

[wary escarp]

@waxen orchid some what showing the air dodging thing with input

Sorry for the bad quality, my pc is not good

[waxen orchid]

that's okay this was perfect for me

thank you so much again

[meager trail]

comboBREAKER? what a fucking joke

[tardy fable]

gold vs gold, what wins in this situation, had the same situation quite a few times

[meager trail]

the thing is my combo breaker gets cancelled, it never came out
while a combo breaker is supposed to be usable under attack
that's literally the definition of a combo breaker ability

[crystal horizon]

Welcome to Naraka

[crystal horizon]

Also, there’s 3 tiers to gold focus

He hit you with Ultimate Focus, which is higher than Skill Focus, which is higher than Weapon Focus

Or at least that’s how I describe it

There’s a lot more nuance to how it actually works but this game runs off hopes and dreams so I don’t try to understand it

[wary escarp]

I thought it runs on suffering and pain

[meager trail]

inor air rmb is not ''ultimate focus''

the server just shat itself and consider inor attack hits me before i used my F and erase my F input

[tardy fable]

ok thx

btw does anyone know what Green focus is? i’ve seen it in videos and 1x in a game, how do u do it and what does it do

[left pasture]

free escapse from combo when you get hit a empty hexagon will appear on the left side of you character its get fill up if you getting hit multiple time and cant escapse the attack once full its will turn green you can press space to use it

[meager trail]

https://youtu.be/-tZeqv-Xz_c?t=491

@viscid kelp lmfao

apparently it's not just me playing naraka 0.5

[dim abyss]

yea

inor jump rmb

does not interrupt tessa f

just server

[viscid kelp]

Yeah deaths in this game have always been oddly inconsistent

I think part of the equation is if the person insta quits to lobby or allows their death anim to play through

But even then it doesn't feel consistent at all

Idk how that is allowed to be the case either but oh well

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-oh-damn-oh-daymn-daym-damn-gif-2649905700736798302

nevertheless this... thing could cost you the game no joke

[viscid kelp]

For sure yeah

[tardy fable]

thx, never noticed it

[split spire]

I have died so many times to this BS

[meager trail]

what's ur setup and hm fps you get in training room idling?

my friend's is 9800x3d, x870e, 4080s, 5600 ddr5 16gb x4, running the game on dx11, 2k res, lowest setting, 360 fps

feels like it should be more

he havent done anything in term of optimization yet

[meager trail]

@viscid kelp i see you got over 400 fps in combat in training room, can you help me with this?

🥹

[viscid kelp]

There you go

[viscid kelp]

Oh
Well first of all make sure there is no GPU bottleneck. Ideally the GPU should be below 95% utilization. If it isn't, crank up DLSS

Aside from that, 4x16GB 5600MT/s is p unoptimal
4 ram sticks lose a tiny amt of performance compared to 2 ram sticks
Also being that they're 16GB sticks individually, they likely aren't dual rank, so I can imagine that on top of the sub par speed of 5600MT/s, they also don't have great timings

[meager trail]

psure it isn't because on 2k and fhd the fps stays the same, also wdym by crank up dlss? he's running dx11 with dlss on

[viscid kelp]

DLSS has quality, balanced and performance
Each step down helps with GPU utilization

[meager trail]

running it on performance

everything on lowest

i also saw someone reached 500 fps in combat in training room with similar setup

probably tweaked something in bios or he oc'ed his setup or whatever but i'm unfamiliar with those stuffs

[viscid kelp]

Well then some things I'd check are

BIOS (many of these things you can check in HWinfo, see image below):

• Turn off AMD-V (virtualization) unless he knows he needs it
• Enable EXPO/XMP if not alr
• Enable Resizable BAR and Above 4G Decoding
• Make sure the GPU is running at PCIe x16

Windows:

• Try if hardware accelerated GPU scheduling helps
• Close CPU intensive tasks

A BIOS update could help too in some cases

Other than that you could get into AMD overclocking. The most basic thing one can do is enable PBO in BIOS, setting the PPT, EDC and TDC limits to auto and enabling a positive max clock offset of 200
On top of that you usually wanna use curve optimizer which is a fancy undervolt that allows your CPU to actually hold high clocks and not immediately run into thermal/voltage limits. Undervolting is pure silicon lottery so I can't say any value is inherently safe, but I have my CO at -24 I believe

My CPU could easily tank -30 but it actually lost performance when I did that

(the lower the number, the lower the voltage, the lower the temperature, but also the higher the risk for instability)

[viscid kelp]

My fps is usually just a bit low cuz I genuinely don't care abt it anymore
I didn't pay 2400 Euros to worry about frames
So I have a butt load of programs open at all times, which is turbo grief for FPS

[meager trail]

lmao he said his card is running on pcie x8 because he got too many ssds

[viscid kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-vent-sus-yeet-orange-gif-26890070

tbh at PCIe 5.0 speeds 8x should be a minor performance loss if at all

[meager trail]

so gotta dip in undervolting and overclocking in the end huh

[meager trail]

yeah plus it's the cpu we're aiming at

[viscid kelp]

I think PBO is decently simple these days, a high end mobo usually sets reasonable auto values

I have X870E too and my mobo did p much everything I wanted for PBO automatically, aside from the +200MHz max clock and CO value

On top of the EXPO profile for my RAM I also set some custom values, for example setting tREFI to maximum (which is like 65535 I believe)

Actually Hardcore Overclocking has a lot of stuff on custom RAM timings

and also this post

https://www.patreon.com/posts/ryzen-9800x3d-115975942?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_fan&utm_content=web_share

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