🔱┃weapons-combat

[analog hawk]

cant spam dodge

[undone anchor]

If you spam roll / dodge, it's super easy to catch

[analog hawk]

oh

blah no wonder

[undone anchor]

For example, if you spam roll backwards, if I simply do an attack after my focus attack I will most likely hit you automatically

The roll / wake-up / way to get out is part of the mind game in naraka

[analog hawk]

so like

i can js lay on the floor

and they miss

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/dX0oYscqPFw?si=NOMJ1u3qyEjRmKaE

[undone anchor]

Depends

You can also time your roll or change the direction

Or do a double one, or focus immediately (you will stand up in blue focus pretty much)

[undone anchor]

This could help a bit

[analog hawk]

i saw that vid

😭

i forgot about it

i needa try it later

[analog hawk]

ya i realized that

i can js focus

i was doing that in a game earlier

[undone anchor]

This works till the enemy catches you when going up, it's not an instant blue for example 👍

But it's a great option, solid one

[analog hawk]

i need to practice dodging light attacks

[undone anchor]

This is the hard part, but if you can evade all of them, you are the best player in the world 🤔😂

[analog hawk]

😭

the bot can do it very very well

its so dumb

[undone anchor]

The bot does not count

They read inputs 😂🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[analog hawk]

ill turn into that bot

[analog hawk]

is it possible to evade all of them

like on paper

[undone anchor]

Naraka, the only game where being a bot is a compliment 🤔😂😂

[undone anchor]

No

Not enough stamina

[analog hawk]

no i mean like

all the types

[undone anchor]

Ahh

Yes

[analog hawk]

even the 2hit spear and staff ones?

[undone anchor]

Yes

[analog hawk]

okok

[undone anchor]

Also there is a way to make that dodging trivial

[analog hawk]

how do i practice dodging all the lights

[undone anchor]

Give the bot a series of attacks and put it on repeat

[analog hawk]

so much work

😭

[undone anchor]

Or, better, find someone to play custom with and just train playing 1v1 🤔

[analog hawk]

custom training

[analog hawk]

😭 im scared

cuz im like rlly bad they gonna leave

[undone anchor]

Why?

[undone anchor]

Nau

Nah*

[analog hawk]

[undone anchor]

They didn't leave with me, they won't with you 😂👍

[analog hawk]

ur like

really good

[undone anchor]

Super bad

I am really mediocre on neutral game

[analog hawk]

if combonicks was in my game i wouldnt leave either

[undone anchor]

I'm good in knowing the game and some of the mechanics (and at spreading misinformation ) , but on a practical level I'm only so so

[analog hawk]

thats like me atp 😭

[undone anchor]

Most of my time I spent in practice tool testing things, not actually playing 😂🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[analog hawk]

i know more than i can do

[undone anchor]

And that's good

[analog hawk]

i cant do it in practice but ik

😭

its rlly bad

[undone anchor]

Now it's time to have the hands slowly adapt and follow the brains 👍

That's the next step

U know what you should do, try and do it, each time a bit better

[analog hawk]

also theres liek alot of cn and eu ppl

on na servers

how they have super low ping

😭

[analog hawk]

i try

😭

i think im gettin better yet also hitting a wall

[undone anchor]

It's normal

Really steep learning curve

If you feel like the wall is too strong, try #🏋┃dojo-coaching 👍👍

@lusty cosmos for sure has your back 👍👍

[analog hawk]

yes yes

i got it

when i rlly down

[analog hawk]

also combobicks

i have question

[undone anchor]

I hopefully have an answer for you 🤔😂

[analog hawk]

uhm

so like if i hold attack right and then they parry what do i do

should i dodge out of my focus and light them or

charge to 2nd focus

[undone anchor]

Either release when they are still stuck in the animation or do a combo 🤔

Both are good options, depends on the sotuation

[analog hawk]

ok but like sometimes

when they parry

i dodge and its too slow they already dodged out after their parry

[wary escarp]

I think release right after they parry is the best

[undone anchor]

Slow reaction then, in that case releasing is just better

[undone anchor]

Generally yes, easier to do

[wary escarp]

As for how ping and fps doing with this game

[undone anchor]

Less room for error

[undone anchor]

Fair point 👍

[wary escarp]

Unless you intentionally bait a parry -> catch for combo, you will not react fast enough to combo them

Not charge into 2nd stage because that would be too late

[analog hawk]

😭

so like i need to predict everything

[undone anchor]

Yes!

Parry ain't a reaction thing

[undone anchor]

@analog hawk here a few easy things you can do with lyam v2 (not optimal, not full combo, just showcasing what can be done)

[analog hawk]

thats crazy

😭

[analog hawk]

thankss

whole reason why im playing him is cuz i pulled that skin by accident

ahem

[analog hawk]

for that hengsword one is it cv hold dodge s cv ?

also i can do it with katana aswell right

[undone anchor]

If it can be done with Heng sword it also works on katana 👍

[undone anchor]

That's a good reason 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️😂

I took it with the guaranteed choice, same with the Heng sword

Can't wait for my luck, it's terrible anyways 🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[undone anchor]

If you see chained uppercuts it's always slide ones 👍

[analog hawk]

huh

whats the gauranteed choice

the pity at 100?

[undone anchor]

after a certain amount of regular treasures you open (500) you get a free choice of red skin

[analog hawk]

u opened 500???

[undone anchor]

from any of the regular treasures (not seasonal ones)

[analog hawk]

😭

[undone anchor]

they just added it

[undone anchor]

in over a year?

[analog hawk]

thats

[undone anchor]

i am near the 1500 😆

in total

[analog hawk]

kinda crazy

omlll

[undone anchor]

it is a lot, but it's all free ones

[analog hawk]

😭

i mean u got it at the end of the day

soo yay

[analog hawk]

i never learned that

i thought it was a tarka exclusive

i guess i do that too

😭

[undone anchor]

if the enemy is high up enough

it can be done with everyone

[lusty cosmos]

[wary escarp]

You good

[undone anchor]

Heya bin 👋👋

[lusty cosmos]

Morning

https://tenor.com/view/awake-at-what-cost-at-what-cost-what-cost-awake-at-gif-7426021102662818914

[neat steppe]

@undone anchorcan you show me how to double uppercut katana ?

my trouble is he rolls when bump

[undone anchor]

here you go

[undone anchor]

this means that you are too slow on either the uppercut or the grapple is late / missplaced

[neat steppe]

here is mine

[rich talon]

is it just me, or is the Grapple Bump backwards Dash thing harder than anything else...

[undone anchor]

it is really tight, yeah

it was the requirement for heavenstep and the whole hard part about it 😆

if you could do that you were chilling

here was my old go at it when i was learning the combo 😆

[rich talon]

yeah when heavenstep was still a thing, glad i didnt play that game... But idk how sum people could get 3 or 4 of them. i can get 1 out of 25 tries maybe

[undone anchor]

it was easier downhill, by a lot

otherwise it was just practice

[rich talon]

that looked weird. but cool

[undone anchor]

weird? how so?

[rich talon]

The Shield Hitbox haha

[undone anchor]

(it was also my literal third week of naraka 😆 )

[rich talon]

[undone anchor]

it is a fun one :laui

[undone anchor]

don't mind it tho; i learned heavenstep before learning the game 😆

spent like 40h in training tool first thing into the game, cuz it looked cool

then they removed it 😆

[rich talon]

[undone anchor]

😡

[rich talon]

Always the Mechanics first. Then the Game Sense

[undone anchor]

ahaha

[rich talon]

pretty much the same with me in Rocket League. Have pumped like 4k Hours in this game and roughly 800-900 in Training. Big Mistake i can say for now

Should've grinded rank more

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[lusty cosmos]

Holy.. i hope you aren't telling new players to do that

[undone anchor]

Nop, quite the opposite 😂😂

I use myself as an example of what not to do 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

Better to learn to fight before combos, otherwise how are you supposed to execute them on an enemy if u can't win neutral😂

[lusty cosmos]

To this day I still only use easy combos and do just fine. Game sense, neutral, movement are vastly more important

[undone anchor]

They are indeed

[wary escarp]

Yeah

Raw neutral works even on a bit low fps

[final escarp]

Just returned to Naraka, what are the pros/cons of flying knifes and what are some combos?

[wary escarp]

For me, it is just really strong due to good range along with really good jades. For combo, it can be combo with standard toothpick into uppercut -> grapple -> V -> H -> V -> cH/jump H

Sorry because I am not in the game at the moment for recording it

There is a niche mechanic in which if you landed first vertical attack into enemy initiate their attack, you will stagger them for a long enough duration for a combo

[final escarp]

Thank you

Toothpick with horizontal or vertical?

and is there anything to say about it's charged attacks?

[lusty cosmos]

Horizontal. But you can start soft true combo off vertical, even from range

[lusty cosmos]

Very strong, great at hold checking, good range. 2.0 of hori has insane range, rmb charge can be missed on purpose to parry bait. And the follow up vertical focus has really good tracking, even through dodges

The weapon is by far the strongest they have added

It has received plenty of nerfs since it came and is still ahead by a big margin

[wary escarp]

Also they need to hotfix it during PBE due to one of the easiest infinite combo ever XD

[final escarp]

thx!

[final escarp]

so another fistblade xD

[lusty cosmos]

Yup

Also welcome back to naraka

You just missed anniversary sadly

Bad timing

[sly ore]

you also came after the re-introduction of champion fight

horrible timing

[lusty cosmos]

Doomer take

Champion fight saved my life

[final escarp]

what's champion fight?

[sly ore]

instead of 40+ player lobbies, you get into lobbies with 6 humans and 2 bots

and everyone is dead before first yang

[final escarp]

sounds horrible

[sly ore]

you basically can't play ranked anymore

even immortal war has more players than ranked

naraka committing sudoku

[lusty cosmos]

After asura you will q for it. You can also enter them if you are winning a lot. They are smaller lobbies, less skill gap, less bots, and better loot

Matches tend to end faster and you don't have bots and new players to farm, so some people are upset about it. But i think it's overall very good for the game

[sly ore]

there are bots in champion fight

[final escarp]

oh, they made that as an attempt to solve these skill gap lobbies?

[lusty cosmos]

Yeah a couple

[sly ore]

and playstation / xbox players with inflated rank and no skill

[lusty cosmos]

But not 15

[sly ore]

no, they made it because someone requested it

[lusty cosmos]

Perhaps. I've been saying naraka needs smaller lobby sizes

[sly ore]

and it was in the game before in season 3

the game almost died in season 3 because of it

[lusty cosmos]

Wish they just made smaller lobbies across the board but I'll take what I can get

[sly ore]

we had trio lobbies with 9 players in them back then

[lusty cosmos]

It's not the same thing

[sly ore]

it is, except this time it's ruining solos instead of trios

[lusty cosmos]

Ruining solos?

Bro i get games at 4 am now

Before i had to q duos

It is saving solos

[final escarp]

is that sarcasm or serious? never certain about chinese companies

[lusty cosmos]

Take everything you hear online with a grain of salt

[sly ore]

it's slightly improving availability outside of primetime, but at the cost of a much worse experience for the average player

[lusty cosmos]

People are always biased and exaggerate reality

[sly ore]

serious

[sly ore]

it's fact-based

[lusty cosmos]

[final escarp]

Anyway, thanks for the advices!

[lusty cosmos]

Happy to help !

[analog hawk]

ya ik but in what scenrio would u get anyone so high up like that

😭

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/tcSuMZCPDZU?feature=shared

This is an example

Takeda also puts enemies high up enough with his ult

[analog hawk]

i saw one

from him

😭

oml its disgusting

i saw casper do it

with dual halberts

[undone anchor]

It got somewhat fixed 🤔👍

[undone anchor]

Nvm, that one ain't fixed yet

[analog hawk]

he did it like

yesterday

or smth

2 days ago

[undone anchor]

Just need a lot of precision and 300 FPS 🤔😂

[analog hawk]

its crazyyy

😭

[undone anchor]

Dual halberds heavenstep 👍👍

[analog hawk]

golly jee

it doesnt look like heaven step

doe

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/erfjs6IsQxo?si=ywESKduKThZHF_D0

Like this?

[analog hawk]

nop

he did it with takeda

used ult

[undone anchor]

then it's easier

[analog hawk]

it looks very cool

[undone anchor]

it does indeed

all takeda ult combos look fancy 👍

[analog hawk]

ya but dual halbert heaven step looks crazy

😭

[analog hawk]

LOL i js witness some tech 😭

jump jump swap jump jump swap jump jump swap

so funny

[wary escarp]

I rather end it with F2-> uppercut -> grapple -> focus ngl

[undone anchor]

Definitely 😂😂😂

It's just a clip from day 1 kylin😂😂

Super suboptimal, but cool

[wary escarp]

Yeah, definitely, we even tried to combo with his V

[undone anchor]

Yep

[agile tree]

kinda sucks that tianhi's divine bell counter doesn't allow you to use your weapon to counterattack your enemies.

like you would typically do by the typical counter

[thorny nexus]

are there any fan combos to learn?

[wary escarp]

wait... it does tho

I remember it does

[agile tree]

I think i might have worded that weird. When you use the bell counter to counter an enemy, you can't use your weapon to punish said enemy with an additional attack like with tyoical parries

[wary escarp]

Yeah, I understand you, the counter attack after parry right?

I remember you can actually counter using it tho

Hold up, Imma get in game and test

[agile tree]

Ye that be good. Esp in vid form

[agile tree]

myabe got to practice more lol. how does this compare to the typical parry?

[wary escarp]

Well, the bell exists for longer duration and also grant you immunity to most things. However the F with combo breaker is still a safer option

As for F2 parry, click counter as your opponent got parried and not afterward

[agile tree]

Oh I see. It seems to be working okay now. like you said, gotta do it right when they get parried

is it better to execute than the typical parry? (g by default?) I assume so?

due to the bell existing longer essentially making the parry time longer? like you said?

[wary escarp]

Well, let me be honest, since parry is more of a catch when you know opponent releasing blue. Pressing parry by itself is already a read, so Tianhai F2 is more of a safer option for parry

However F1 is a combo breaker

[agile tree]

yeah esp if you getting juggled.

[dawn coyote]

hey.. why when i uppercut someone, i barely get any airtime to hit them midair

[onyx loom]

🎉 | eden leveled up!

[acoustic epoch]

what do you guys usually do when you see someone charging up?

I keep panicking whenever I see a blue outline and just fumble up

[undone anchor]

Cuz uppercut in itself does not allow for much, usually just a single attack in the air as shown in the advanced tutorial

You can fit in a few more, but it's dependant on your speed of execution

If you want to do more that's when grapple comes into play

[undone anchor]

Focus right back into their face

Or keep your distance and focus aswell

So that they feel the same pressure as you

[dawn coyote]

oh cause i was experimenting in practice range and apparently you can execute 2 slashes (lmb) after uppercutting if you run slide into an uppercut

but it still makes me confused a bit because other people do it just fine

[rich talon]

Hold Check or keep Distance. I like to go on a wall/stone and scale Rush behind him. If there is any in the open

[undone anchor]

In the air or on the ground the lmb?

[dawn coyote]

in the air after uppercut

[undone anchor]

There is a combo with 2 slashes on the ground followed by a focus, but it's pretty hard

[undone anchor]

It's timing

Need to jump and attack again as soon as you land after the first

Also fps play a role

[dawn coyote]

ahh

[undone anchor]

And keep w pressed down

[dawn coyote]

so lmb into uppercut into jump lmb

thank you

[undone anchor]

Np 👍

[velvet falcon]

Can 211 with katana/nunchucks/heng consistently but can't seem to get the timing on staff or longsword at all. Any suggestions?

[undone anchor]

Need to be more precise

Same as LS their attacks are dodgeable if not perfect

[viscid kelp]

At which point during the uppercut you can swap differs between weapons and even between slide/normal uppercut

You can try to get a feeling for that by just buffering the swap and spamming jump

The moment you jump right as you swap is the timing you wanna learn

Once you know whether you're going too fast/slow just try to adapt accordingly

[trim sail]

any way to follow up with a fan uppercut becuase after both horizontal and vertical opponent can dash out of it

[undone anchor]

If you hit the enemy with the windwall

[trim sail]

it's H1 or V1

[undone anchor]

Attack, dash, h1

If you hit only with the windwall it works like a normal H1 on other weapons

[rich talon]

i got online yeah... Started the Game

And first try i hit that

[leaden bough]

so for a lot of grapple bump combo videos I see they start combos depending on the weapon with H, backdash, H or V, backdash, V before the CV

but when I backdash i dash too far away from the enemies to hit the second attack

[naive plaza]

If you have the souljades tai chi fan or soulshatter those can both combo start & confirm an uppercut. But for the most part fan isn’t a combo weapon, it’s a very hold checking playstyle and chipping in dmg here and there until the enemy is dead.

[rich talon]

Do you hold Shift for Attack Backdash Attack?

[agile tree]

on that topic, what weaps are to be avoided for comboing? esp. against bots (the more difficult ones). I'm guessing greatsword, polesword, and like you mentioned fan

[naive plaza]

Weapons that aren’t really combo playstyle are the ones you listed yeah. Fan/dagger and the heavy swords. Fistblade has like 2 basic combos (jump lmb vs 123 string) and is also more about hold checking & spacing with the tap dodge mechanic

If you’re looking to do long combos or juggles you probably want to look into hengsword/katana & Longsword

[leaden bough]

yeah I hold shift and tap S but I go too far, is that what I’m meant to do?

[plucky kiln]

Hey!!! I play immortal war every night but its saying the mode isnt available when my other friends are playing it?

[rich talon]

i tap W after that

[naive plaza]

Some people get a last minute IW queue right before the timer ends, so they’re still in IW even though the option to queue up isn’t available anymore.

other than that, there’s no way to play IW outside of its active hours

unless your friends are on other servers as that would impact when they play IW

[rich talon]

But you don't need to actually tap W. It works, if you instantly tap rmb/lmb after the Dodge too

[undone anchor]

Always a pleasure to see this 😍

[wary escarp]

If you dashed way too far, it is probably because you tap dodge and not hold dodge

You don't even need to input W afterward unless there are other enemies around (which you wouldn't want to do combo)

[leaden bough]

i cant get it for some reason

ive been trying for 5 mins but it just goes too far back still

[leaden bough]

trying to copy the key timing of this

i can get it very inconsistently now

ohh i got it I was letting go of shift before doing w or the attack thanks yall

[thorny nexus]

are there any fan combos i can learn?

[undone anchor]

Basic grapple combo works

Either start it with the windwall or katana and it works just fine 🤔👍

[leaden bough]

is there a reliable way to actually start combos

its a skill issue thats probably solved with experience but i see a lot of white focus clashing and then me ending up in a combo

[wary escarp]

There are abilities that will guarantee a combo on hit

However over reliant on them are bad habits when starting out

[leaden bough]

ive won every match ive played today but its not because im better its because I have more escapes and gear

i never fail to get combod instead of starting them on people

[leaden bough]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kUjyyHIfBYg0OSfzt?invite=cr-MSw0VE0sMjQ3NDk0MzE&v=44

like this

[undone anchor]

You don't hold check, that's the issue

[leaden bough]

what’s that?

[undone anchor]

Also that person didn't have any idea what they were doing either for the most part 🤔👍 (first one)

[undone anchor]

One sec, there is a good explanatory video 🤔👍

But long story short is the base of how Naraka fighting works

[leaden bough]

I could tell that’s how I won lmao

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=TZ4RL0RjOjsSc6F1h

Here you go 👍👍

[leaden bough]

awesome thank you I knew there was something important but it’s hard to look it up when you don’t know what it’s called lol

[undone anchor]

Yeah, that's why we got this channel and disc 👍👍

Naraka is pretty hard to learn, especially in the beginning

[leaden bough]

dude I’m level 95 I haven’t played in a year but idk what kind of monkeying around I was doing when I played back then

[undone anchor]

It's normal 🤔👍

[wary escarp]

That's not a person

[undone anchor]

yep

[wary escarp]

The problem I saw is you don't know how to probably reset neutral, which makes you getting caught by attack after attack, at the same time you are way to greedy with starting a combo, which people can exploit to win against you all the time

[rich talon]

That’s why 2 Friends of me quit already. All fun till Platin. Then we hit solar in Trios and fun was over

(For them)

[undone anchor]

till solar it's mostly bot games, that's why you feel powerful even without knowing how the game really works.

[rich talon]

Yeah I told them, that they can’t play like this till Asura or idk. But because they fought so many bots, they got a confidence boost to the sky. I told them, when I got Solar that the fun now begins. Yup they were getting absolutely shredded… then they deleted the game…

[plucky kiln]

No this happened when it opened. It was stuck and glitched on duos and wouldn't let me change it over to trios. Since duos doesnt exist it kept saying unavailable.

But managed to fix after I restarted 3 times 😆

[leaden bough]

again uh what’s that

[wary escarp]

Neutral is just a term to talk about the state you and your opponent both don't have advantage on the other

After you get combo-ed, you just simply run away normally after get up, they can caught up with you using multiple method

[leaden bough]

what should I be doing

[wary escarp]

You can create distance with focus dashing or hold focus to stand your ground.

If you are in focus, enemies need to use their focus or abilities to get you out of it.

This is the reason why greedy for combo will make you easy to exploit

If they hold focus and attack them, they can release on you mid animation or catch you with half charge attack into combo

[leaden bough]

so basically just focus dash and holdcheck

[wary escarp]

At the same time I notice you grapple in one of those clip even tho the enemy is in front of you. Try to do things with intention and not out of habits

[wary escarp]

Pretty much

Sorry if I made it complicated

[undone anchor]

Hold check and try to figure out the habits of the enemy and then catch him 🤔👍

Pretty much

[prisma pivot]

Hi guys, i am trying to learn valda as a Solar 5 player. Could you give me some tips pls?

[simple kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/tips-the-beaches-blow-up-song-tip-jar-more-tips-gif-21987497

[undone anchor]

try to keep your combo break for when you actually need it, the rest is just a matter of winning neutral as every other character and also hitting the ult spears to stun enemies. when charging the hit with the spears you are pretty much invulnerable to any stagger, in case

[leaden bough]

i feel like knowing that I need to hold blues isnt doing anything

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kUzuMTt2XgEQK3J-y?invite=cr-MSxvSTEsMjQ3NDk0MzE&v=68

like I know im supposed to switch up using focus and not but I cant make it unpredictable I just get parried or they charge blue if I switch midway}
i did worse in that clip than before lmao

[meager trail]

• 1: that's a bot so they're running parry script, it's normal to get parried by them if you release blues recklessly
• 2: you're dodging without anything in mind, to the point you literally panic spam it after each attack, don't do that, rely on their animation to dodge, and control your dodge direction and dodge types
• 3: you can hold for much longer and you can also cancel the hold with crouch or short jump not just dodge, try to manage your stamina and keeping distance if you're unsure of the situation

[leaden bough]

alr thanks ill keep trying lol

also what should you do against transformation characters cause i feel like you can be winning and then theyre back at max

[meager trail]

depends on which hero you're on, but general rule of thumb is just run away, grapple to high ground, hide behind terrain but don't lose track of them, heal up, wait for their ult to be over then engage again

[serene copper]

when its tianhai or yueshan js run and climb

if its inor wan, run extra fast

[leaden bough]

what about feria

all I’ve learned is staying in line of sight of the ballista mode is a death wish

[serene copper]

i js run and hide in a building if possible

theres basically nothing u can rlly do

unless you're in trios and shes the only one alive in her party

js jump her

but other than that im not sure

[serene copper]

when you see/hear him start to transform you should already be 15m away 😭 🙏

[meager trail]

good player can just bring out their range weapon and shoot her while dodging her cannon at the same time

[serene copper]

chat is this the runner mindset

[rich talon]

Quick Question. I get like 11/10 Times caught by a freakin Wuchen V2. When is the perfect Timing to Dodge his Ult? Idk my timing there is just... Not there.

[meager trail]

the initial cast?

[rich talon]

Yeah right when he starts his Ult

[meager trail]

wuchen v2 is known to be a heavy rubberband-y ult though

i just dodge twice when i saw him waving his hand with his broom (or feather duster? whatever it's called) lol

[rich talon]

i mean whenever i drop him to low hp, Blud just casts his Ult, doing absolutely nothing and pumps out 1500 dmg

[meager trail]

yeah that shit hurts

[rich talon]

Hmm. Maybe i try that out later

[serene copper]

wuchen nerf when 😭

[leaden bough]

whaat that’s definitely not exactly what I do because I don’t know how to fight

[rich talon]

Any tips what i can do afterwards? Just a Blue, or?

[rich talon]

Against a Bot its not working well. They dodge literally everything

[leaden bough]

uh huh

[rich talon]

i meant, if you hit someone with the Ult its too much damage for free. But throwing his Ult against a Bot is pretty much useless, in 9/10 times they perfectly dodge that Sword

[leaden bough]

oh yeah for sure

parry and dodge machines

[rich talon]

fr

just sheath ur weapon and slap them

[rich talon]

i can't get the second slash from the first hit... I don't know why tbf
Am i starting the first attack to fast, or?

[wary escarp]

From this clip I notice a couple of things: You react way too late to your opponent, you parry them after they already dodge(0:06), you focus over their non focus attack yet you dodge out or release way too late instead of release right there (0:15) (0:19 you can just hold instead of continue dodging) (0:27 You instead of using focus to stand your ground, you holding vertical of flying knives while moving which doesn't have focus) (1:03). As the aggressor you are way too non aggressive, you can hold much longer or just attack with non focus attack in some situation yet you dodge out of your focus for no reason (0:32). The bot is bs (0:37). You don't make full use of your abilities (0:50 you hit them with Wuchen F2, you can use it starts a combo since it guarantee a non focus hit, albeit the position is a little awkward) (0:52 you have 2 activations of V2 when you activate it yet you only use one of it). You tap dodge after your focus end for no reason, causing you to get caught (0:57)

[undone anchor]

In case, dual weapons start combos on horizontal, not vertical. An enemy would run away there

But this goes only for the first try

Id say you can fit 1 more uppercut + a grapple bump focus ideally 🤔

But that's prolly the max

[undone anchor]

It's your position compared to the enemy

You throw them forward because of where you are positioned. Need to play around with direction keys and timing

[rich talon]

Aehhh. It was Late

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[cosmic osprey]

What are mera weapons ?

Meta*

[lusty cosmos]

Flying knives most meta. Fan and heng sword after that

And fistblades

But all weapons are viable

Especially with good jades

[velvet falcon]

Except greatsword. Just use polesword

[lusty cosmos]

you can do work with greatsword but it has its weaknesses for sure

[undone anchor]

Dunkin be like 👀😂

He can do insane things with that weapon

[shadow topaz]

And fistblades

[south ferry]

Do the grapple bump combos work or are they patched out or something? I can't land even the katana one. 🙁

Or is it a ping issue? I play with around 90-100 ping.

[meager trail]

ground grapple still works at 100 ping
target air grapple will stop working from around 55-60 ping, a falling animation will happens after you grapple bump hits leads to slow blue hold

but generally speaking, don't expect anything to work properly at 90-100 ping

that's way too high for naraka

[south ferry]

Should stick to bread and butter combos? 🥲

[meager trail]

do whatever consistent to you

i personally wouldn't even attempt to play the game at 90-100 ping

[south ferry]

Dude. 💔

It's not my internet connection. I have a group of around 8 people who play this game. It's just that's the best ping we get in the country. 🙁

[meager trail]

yeah i know, us global are desperate for more servers

but about this matter we've been received nothing but radio silence since the launch of global naraka

[south ferry]

I don't know much about it. I just got back into N araka after like 2 years.

But I highly doubt we'll get new servers. 🙁

[meager trail]

there are countless feedback threads asking for more servers and ping improvement
NONE of them got any replies from devs

[south ferry]

Sad. Haye.

I remember there was a dojo setting by a few people where they taught the combat and some advanced stuff. Does that still happen?

[meager trail]

still

#🏋┃dojo-coaching

[lusty cosmos]

Yes Dojo is every week. Announcements are in #🏋┃dojo-coaching you can get the dojo role to get notified when signups open

[nimble lotus]

Hey bud I just saw this to maybe help you out. This combo itself is probably one of the hardest that I have practiced and I would love to help. In this case, I do the combo with a double uppercut to start with and every single 211 that you do needs to be pixel perfect for it to be chaining after each other. My fps in this case is around 300 so you should be able to do it too. My main advice is to completely focus on mastering your 211 swap into uppercut and keep holding W. You’ll be able to do it no time, make sure to take your time too and don’t feel discouraged!

[undone anchor]

Man, this is just insane 😍😱

[nimble lotus]

Thank you Eldra ❤️

Also, bare in mind that this combo is really difficult. So it will take time to pull off atleast once. It was the same for me. Once you master your 211 swap pixel perfectly, you will be able to pull this off! I’d say this is the 2nd hardest combo I’ve been trying to master after the Dual Blades heavenstep. If you have any questions about anything, let me know and/or feel free to message me in private! ☺️

In your clip I notice that your 211’s are a bit too slow for it to chain like mine. Master and increase the speed and you will notice that it chains much more frequent!

[rich talon]

[rich talon]

I try my best

[nimble lotus]

You got it buddy, keep showing me your improvements. I’m very willing to help you!

[rich talon]

[nimble lotus]

[rich talon]

I'm working now to get these consistent

[nimble lotus]

You got itt

All you need to do is master your 211 swap

[nimble lotus]

Once you master the swap timing

You can do a lot of funny things

[turbid thicket]

So I've been seeing people talk about it and I've seen it arou, but I never used it. With the focus slide souljade do I just slide at the enemy or do actually hit the attack at some point?

[nimble lotus]

You slide at him

If you hit him, he gets staggered and pushed away

But focus slide got nerfed heavily to the point where it has a buffer animation and the enemy can parry it

After you hit him with a slide, u can follow up with an attack such as a normal horizontal

[turbid thicket]

Oh ok, thank you. I'm still pretty new and noticed the achievement so I thought I'd trying it out

[nimble lotus]

All good buddy, feel free to ask anything that’s on your mind

I’m willing to help 👍🏼

[turbid thicket]

Ok, thank you a lot!

[rich talon]

What my Problem is atm, are these grapple backward dashes into uppercut or whatever this thing is called. But its just a timing issue for now

[nimble lotus]

Yes, they call that “211”

That needs to be faster

And once you got it faster, you can do it better

It takes time!!

[rich talon]

i mean this

[undone anchor]

What would you say is minimum FPS requirement for the staff Infinite? (Shaolin staff jade)

Been banging my head against a wall for 2 days now, and after hours the enemy still goes downwards. Even lyrics said it was most likely an fps issue cuz it looked clean 🤔

[nimble lotus]

Oh that? This takes little practice, it’s not too hard. The slide backwards needs to be done once you hear the bump sound after you grappled him. So basically the sound of your character colliding with theirs. Then slide backwards and uppercut, the rest is just jump + lmb’s

[nimble lotus]

I would say atleast 200-220

[undone anchor]

Rip

[nimble lotus]

Did Marko show you that video I sent him?

[undone anchor]

I'm 100 short 😂

[nimble lotus]

I think you can get away with it at 150 maybe

[undone anchor]

Yess, been using it as a reference

I'm lower end of 100 sadly

[nimble lotus]

Uff, then it’s most likely going to be hard to pull off 😦

[undone anchor]

Can't improve it

[undone anchor]

Near impossible, the second horizontal sends the enemy downwards

[rich talon]

U can infinite with staff?

[undone anchor]

First juggle is fine, second one feels impossible

[undone anchor]

Yes

[nimble lotus]

Yeah, that’s the one where fps comes into play

[nimble lotus]

https://youtu.be/-sjQyzenfZI?si=GHOoYjseVB0PoH1V

[undone anchor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1253390266010697808/1406932053508751423/Naraka_2025-08-18_11-19-56.mp4?ex=68a59495&is=68a44315&hm=d7aa82cbe763c95acea6be717fbab1cd190481b5bd486e27142dcb48a01e1314&

This is the idea, but rip

I'll find a way to bypass it somehow I guess 🤔😂

[nimble lotus]

Yes… that’s where the fps comes into play

[nimble lotus]

You got it!

[undone anchor]

As I did with the katana 1 2 3 😂😂

[undone anchor]

NGL, I'm still mad they patched out my spear combo with Lannie 😂

It was a dream come true

[nimble lotus]

I feel you…

Shameful moment, but understandable

[undone anchor]

I had managed to find a way to juggle the enemies on the higher part of the twirl 😂

It was so nice 😂

[lusty cosmos]

I thought you're talking about height

[undone anchor]

What would you say is your favourite combo ATM? Also, got any ideas for knife combos? I'm trying to work around the limited choices

[nimble lotus]

Helicopter Longsword combo

[undone anchor]

That's for volleyball.🤔😂😂 I'm 20 cm too short there , for professional league😂

[undone anchor]

Helicopter LS? 🤔🤔

Don't think I've ever seen it 🤔

[nimble lotus]

For knives? Not really, there is an infinite with it but I am not sure how to do it yet

[nimble lotus]

You have😂

This one

[undone anchor]

Should've been patched out afaik 🤔

[lusty cosmos]

You mean carosel?

[nimble lotus]

Nope

The clip above

[undone anchor]

Oh, so that's the name 🤔😂😂😂😂

[lusty cosmos]

Oh

[nimble lotus]

I called it that 😂

[undone anchor]

The evil LS combo 🤔😂😂

[nimble lotus]

Helicopter

[undone anchor]

That shall be the name then

[nimble lotus]

Yes!

[lusty cosmos]

War crime combos

[undone anchor]

Speaking of, has any high FPS player found anything off the staff double uppercut yet?

[nimble lotus]

I’m not sure 🤔

Personally I have not

Neither have I seen anything regarding that

[undone anchor]

Cuz for me aside being inconsistent it has the bad tendency of sending enemies slightly before my reach 🤔😂👍

[rich talon]

ok ive spent to much time now getting the Helicopter done. I can't even get one 211 now

Time for a break i guess

[undone anchor]

Yep, and a big one 😂🤔

[rich talon]

exactly. Time to eat something

[torpid trellis]

ok so how to actually deal with the new yoto ult?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | habok leveled up!

[torpid trellis]

seems like just another "press a button and stun everything without getting stunned" and if you cant scalerush immediately at the same time they activate the ult, youre just done

[smoky wasp]

hey, wich is the best up do date source for weapon combos with and without grapple hook? i can do some combos on certain weapons but i still suck at grapple combos. i kinda tryin to finde sources to see a combo without grapple, so i can practice slowly towards more effective grapple combos

[meager trail]

this channel pinned post

[smoky wasp]

beut they all kinda involve grappe hook :/

i guess i got to practice it then

[analog hawk]

hihi

so like when i use c to cancel focus how do i make it so i dont do a c horizo 😭

i feel like if i wait for my character to fully stand up i allow them to get out of stagger

[undone anchor]

For the ACCA?

[analog hawk]

What’s acca

[analog hawk]

Also

Is there a way that when I jump or crouch to cancel my focus I would not lose my sprint

It’s cuz I wanna use crouch to cancel focus instead of hold dodge sometimes

[naive plaza]

It stands for Attack > Crouch > Cancel > Attack

So instead of using a dodge you crouch and then uncrouch (or cancel the crouch) and do the next attack in the combo

[analog hawk]

How do I cancel a crouch

Oh I see

[naive plaza]

iirc you tap the crouch button again and your character should stand up straight

[analog hawk]

Mhm

Okok

Do I hold down crouch then or is it ok if I still tap

[naive plaza]

I think you have to slightly hold crouch to go down into the crouch, and then quickly tap to come out

[analog hawk]

I see

Thank youuu

[naive plaza]

Honestly I don’t ACCA much, I usually just go for one attack into uppercut if I’m totally out of stam xD

[analog hawk]

I’m not doing it for ACCA

I js wanna cancel focus woth crouch when I run out of stam

[naive plaza]

Yeah you can use the crouch cancel then or you could do a short jump, whatever you prefer

[analog hawk]

Ya

Thanks

[naive plaza]

If you do a short jump your character will be standing upright after anyways so there’s no way you crouch hori by mistake

[analog hawk]

I go get used to that

[analog hawk]

I feel like jumping is a bit more risky

[naive plaza]

Eh either way you’re cancelling a blue so you run the risk of getting caught. Sometimes jumping is safer actually. Have you ever won neutral against a bot and they just fall to the ground because they were jumping instead of giving you a clean stagger to combo start on? It’s annoying asf lol

My friends and I call it “bot tech” and it’s surprisingly useful. If we can’t break LOS from a viper ult for example, we jump at the snap and at the worst we eat 1 focus vs eating a whole combo cuz we flop to the ground 😂

v2 viper, hardly see V1 anymore

[undone anchor]

I'm sorry, I fell asleep again 😅🤦🏼‍♂️

Skynyx seems to have answered super well already tho

[analog hawk]

Yes she did

I understand it very wel now

[analog hawk]

Nope I haven’t

https://tenor.com/view/funny-animals-goats-gif-8683698

I’m imagining this

[undone anchor]

Good good

[rich talon]

Has anyone Free Time in the Evening to hop in a call with a friend and me and i stream the Game to look into? Idk we are unrivaled and still lose every fckn Fight against real players. And to slap 2 Bots and making + Points isn’t the whole point of ranked i guess.

[onyx loom]

🎉 | 丶.akiio leveled up!

[prisma pivot]

Hi everyone, does someone know if tarkas infinite combo has been patched?

[undone anchor]

Depending on the hour I can if u want eventually 🤔

[eager cedar]

Any advise for the best weapon for solo game?

[rich talon]

Like 22:00?

[undone anchor]

All of them are viable, what matters most is your understanding of neutral

Aside that, fistblades, fan, Heng sword and knives have a slight edge

[undone anchor]

I'll message you if I can make it 👍

[eager cedar]

What Is neutral

[undone anchor]

All depends on what time they want to eat here

[undone anchor]

Pretty much getting the process of getting the advantage over the enemy

Hold checking is the foundation and most of it

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=hYPFyy4UhEd2jT-B

Here a good explanation

[eager cedar]

Mmm ok

[rich talon]

Yeah i guess we are playing till the servers get down at 01:00. I also need to grab some Food for now

[undone anchor]

👍

[cosmic charm]

Is there any weapon in Naraka bladepoint that's string heavy?

or that you can do long combos on

[undone anchor]

best weapon to do combos are usually katana and longsword

they removed in recent years longer combos like heavenstep, but there are still some options, especially if you are on very high fps

[undone anchor]

as for string heavy u mean combo heavy?

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kWbLsbDkVXR0urNu6?invite=cr-MSwyc3osMTQ5NzU3NTA

just felt like sharing some progress

or smth

lu

l

[wary escarp]

Nope, he can still pretty much do it

[long idol]

Need some help on landing a sequence.
Longsword
V - cV - G - cV - (here I can't seem to land in time ) V(ground) - JH

[undone anchor]

Nice!

[undone anchor]

LH is landing horizontal? 🤔

(remember that u have to use vertical with longsword, since horizontal attacks don't have enough stagger to allow for an uppercut

[eager cedar]

What Is stagger?

[wary escarp]

Basically anything that makes you unable to control your character that cause by another player or environment

[long idol]

Sorry made a mistake, all vertical

I need to land after second grapple, do a vertical and jump lmb

Fixed sequence

[undone anchor]

why not do a double air horizontal?

it's more dmg

landing and doing a vertical after an uppercut is not the best idea 🤔

[long idol]

Because I need to F2 with kylin after

[undone anchor]

i see

i can try and clip it for you this evening at the earliest i think 🤔

lemme just check if i dont have it already somewhere

[long idol]

Perfect

[undone anchor]

i usually just do one air horitontal into f

e

smth like this for exampl

[long idol]

I can do one air h as well, if it's too much trouble I'll just forget about one vertical before

After you F it's true regardless of terrain?

I intended to do a charge after F but this is way more damage, will practice

[undone anchor]

unless it's going upwards

i got a few things u can do with kylin if u want, need a bit to send them tho

[long idol]

I'd like to see yeah, I only saw the video from long notes

[undone anchor]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCwPwO2uTjYmwkrYSqienVY-wFbZcmpAP&si=VQfrcaYuEOyr1_1Y

Here

Some ideas I had a while back when I was maining kylin

[long idol]

Saved, I'll check them once I'm home

[velvet falcon]

im trying to do the helicopter combo with longsword 211

i can 211 on all weapons, but after I 211 and vertical, the target goes too far back for me to land the next uppercut and continue the combo

is there something in particular that has to be done to make them not go too far with the vertical after 211

[velvet falcon]

basically this, the guy goes flying after the vertical when im doing it

maybe because hes on 14 ping and im on 45

yeah I cant figure it out for the life of me

[undone anchor]

It's a matter of timing and fps

240 should be a good amount for that combo 🤔

[velvet falcon]

im at about 400fps

but 45ping

im losing my mind

[nimble lotus]

Your ping is too high 😔 @velvet falcon

[velvet falcon]

ah figured

RIP

[nimble lotus]

I think you are able to do two helicopter spins at best

[velvet falcon]

cant even get one

they go flying too far, can never land uppercut

hmmm watching your video it seems like you 211 then dodge forward

then they're like on top of you

ill try

aghhh too annoying

[lusty cosmos]

This is average ping in NA

[velvet falcon]

yeah feelsbad

playing against people with 20ping is quite literally impossible tbh

they have to fumble ultra hard. Ping diff is massive

[undone anchor]

Better 20 ping difference than 200 FPS difference, trust me 🤔😂😂

I say that from experience

[velvet falcon]

I was playing on 40ping and 90fps for years until I upgraded last week and im on 400fps

honestly theres SOME difference, but ping is still the bigger issue

20ping vs 40ping is literally ridiculous disadvantage

[meager trail]

lol no

20 ping vs 40 ping disadvantage is NO WHERE close to 90 fps vs 400 fps disadvantage

[velvet falcon]

what level do you play at?

[meager trail]

wdym what level

as in my rank?

[velvet falcon]

like do you play tournaments

[meager trail]

are you?

[velvet falcon]

yeah

ping is a bigger deal

fps is secondary tbh

[meager trail]

lol

[velvet falcon]

not being able to reaction punish or parry is colossol disadvantage

its literally unplayable

[meager trail]

as if you can react parry with your 90 fps

[velvet falcon]

20ping 90fps you can react

40ping 90fps or 40ping400fps you cant

ping is the difference

[meager trail]

yeah while on 90 fps you're disabled from most combos and your input doesn't even register

[velvet falcon]

what combos that you would use in tournaments can you not perform on 90fps

[meager trail]

what tournaments you played with 90 fps anyway?

[velvet falcon]

maybe some stuff in yang and LS, but honestly its manageable

[velvet falcon]

morus cup solos and trios

[meager trail]

and you ended up at?

[velvet falcon]

last 4 years all on pretty shit hardware and tbh, the fps difference is minimal after upgrade. only lose to a handful of people in NA and its a clear ping diff

in solos and trios made it to finals

[meager trail]

before or after netcode change?

[velvet falcon]

not sure tbh, when was that (and what did it affect?)

[meager trail]

ah so you don't know about it

[velvet falcon]

seems so, had a few kids so havent been glued to screen as much

I did notice I used to get 40ping and after some change last year ive been bouncing between 40-70

its annoying but what can you do, NA server take what you get

either way, 40ping is unplayable for people who play on 20ping.
90fps is playable for people who play on 200+

ping diff makes you win neutral
fps is for combos

20ms allows reaction
40+ms is guessing

[meager trail]

it's more than just combo, in this game higher fps literally make your action faster

[velvet falcon]

yeah, ping does it more

[meager trail]

you know what's funny? in this game your ingame ping is tied to your fps
the lower your fps is, the higher ping you gonna get

[wary escarp]

Got myself a 9000ms once, funny thing

At the same time reach 1fps, a Katana horizontal takes 5 seconds

Wish I have clip the moment

But if I have clipped it, my game probably crash at that point

[brittle chasm]

Is heaven step still a thing just returning from a year of not playing tryin to remember everything

[undone anchor]

Difference of 300 FPS is literally nearly doubled the move speed of the attacks 🤔😂

[undone anchor]

It got patched out last year 👍

[undone anchor]

Interesting 🤔👍😂

[rich talon]

How does that work?

[undone anchor]

@viscid kelp probably can explain it better than us 🤔👍

[rich talon]

First Game that I’ve ever heard that tbf

[viscid kelp]

Something something netcode fetches ping once per frame at most and because of that your displayed ping is your actual ping + frametime

Low fps = high frame time
Therefore ping + frame time goes higher with lower fps

[meager trail]

i don't know how it works exactly, but i do know that the ingame ping is not just your network delay but a combination of network delay (which can only be improved by adjusting your network connection) and something else (which related to FPS, the higher your FPS is, the lower this delay gonna be)
your real network delay shows on your login screen, when you select server
when you actually get into a game that ms will always be higher compare to what you saw on your login screen, theoretically speaking if you have like, let's say 1000 fps, then your login screen ping and ingame ping will probably be the same
and then the game was coded in a way that when your ingame ms reached a certain threshold it will straight up adding stuffs that prevent you from executing your actions despite your input was right, for example at around 55-60ms this falling animation will play, lead to slow blue hold and caused the combo to fail:

so if you don't have a high and stable FPS, your ingame ms will fluctuates often, the game gonna make up stuffs more often, leads to your action failing more often despite your input was right

the story with high FPS is the higher your fps is, the faster the action come out and finish, the shorter the gap between your actions, your preinput got recognized sooner/easier, so your input doesn't need to be as precise as someone who's on lower fps, leads to a much smoother gameplay
it's not just about combo, it's literally everything

[viscid kelp]

I wouldn't exactly say make stuff up

The game just keeps running its logic locally with whatever data from the server it has at any given point

For instance, at least to my understanding, hits (including grapple bumps) are fully server validated. If hitting an enemy causes your state to change, it will not happen unless your client has received the server's signal for said state change. As an example, if you have say hepta and you hit an enemy with it while having 100% packet loss, you will never enter the hepta animation because your client is never told to do so by the server

I also believe that's part of the reason for the grapple interaction you mentioned. The bump would change your state into one out of which you can hold, however the state change will only be triggered once your client is informed by the server that it validated the bump. If you reach the end of the grapple without bumping, you trigger the animation in the clip below. If your ping is high enough, you will reach the end of the grapple before the bump can be validated, causing you to enter the animation in the clip

So while this seems random or "made up", it's just a consequence of your client lacking information at a critical interaction point

The interaction not being consistent until very high ms is most likely just a consequence of the fact that your client's tick rate will never be synced with the server's tick rate

If I knew which type of networking Naraka uses, I might be able to offer more insights, but I'm not about to read a 110MB dll of machine code

[meager trail]

yeah i mean ofc the game cannot make up stuffs that isn't there in the first place, but the way it work result in stuffs being fked over and low server tick rate obviously play a huge part in this

i also don't know exactly how the game was designed and i won't do assumptions but just what i've observed through my gameplay overtime

[viscid kelp]

Idk what the server's tick rate is, but I know Naraka has a pretty noticable level of base desync. Since free training bot has no desync for its hits, it's a pretty decent base line of "This hitbox shout be active at this time within the attack animation"
Even on very low ms, you lose significant reaction time because the hitbox activates a lot earlier into the animation due to desync

[meager trail]

i got rubberbanded by the free training bot though lol

[viscid kelp]

You can rubberband it too

[meager trail]

yeah sometimes

sometimes i can even uppercut into 1st stage charge release lol

no grapple needed

[viscid kelp]

It's a fucked thing cuz I'm p sure certain elements of it are server validated
For example your hits against it definitely are

[meager trail]

but then in training room my parries register even before the red flash

[viscid kelp]

But if you do a side by side comparison of hitbox activation times between it and any player or ingame bot, you will notice that free training bot has the latest activation time of all
I.e. you get the most reaction time vs it cuz you see more of the animation before the hitbox goes active

[viscid kelp]

Yes, parries in free training are not server validated whatsoever

That's why I call it a fucked thing

It's some really inconsistent jumbled mess of server validated and non server validated interactions

That is entirely diff from the game outside free training

[meager trail]

yep that's why react parry only works against bots, while ingame i couldn't even react parry a 123

and the other day i got hit by a 1-2 into uppercut despite my character was already in blue hold animation after i got hit by the 1-2

[meager trail]

this should be naraka promo line

[viscid kelp]

I have not managed to, but if one day someone decompiles Naraka and it turns out they used the inbuilt Unity GameObject netcode I'll laugh my ass off

decompiles into smth humanly readable I should say

[meager trail]

what's worse is it keep getting worse patch after patch

[viscid kelp]

Actually considering how fucking laggy the 3D lobby is, it's not even the most outlandish idea

[torpid trellis]

can someone explain to me how grappling scalerushers works exactly? ive been dragged down onto the ground with a grapple as i was already in focus on the wall, but for some reason when i grapple onto someone that barely started charging and has no focus on them, nothing happens :)))

[meager trail]

my best guess is desync, even though your character turned blue on your screen but the information of enemy grapple hits you reached the server before the information of your focus state managed to do so, so the server put out the result of you getting hit while not in blue, result in a stagger

[torpid trellis]

then why does my grapple literally never throw people off walls as long as theyre charging the scale rush

theyre not even close to being blue

[meager trail]

same reason

they haven't turned blue on your screen but on their (and on the server) they already is

[torpid trellis]

yeah i would understand if it was on the very edge of not-yet-blue/blue

[meager trail]

or they already scalerushed away

[torpid trellis]

but theyre barely starting to charge

[lusty cosmos]

It's desync likely as tabbie said, they already released scale rush on their end before your grapple reached them. This is why you want to scale rush instantly, so you are immune to grapple stagger

[torpid trellis]

new tech dropped guys

just skip to followup focus attack, all good

[night stratus]

Trying to learn the lyam longsword infinite don't quite understand how the c drop works. Sometimes I do the knee landing that stops me from attacking right after and other times I can just move right away.

[undone anchor]

which longsword infinite are you talking about specifically?

there are quite a few 😅

[night stratus]

At about 4:15 in this video https://youtu.be/EKSi9OStu7U?si=52h8hHOfm9A3y8R6

[rich talon]

i cant get the 5. Uppercut

[undone anchor]

What it your FPS and ping?

[undone anchor]

It is still insane TBF 🤔

[wary escarp]

Saw this problem a couple of time, I have my guess but couldn't find the problem yet

[torpid trellis]

I've seen this dude just kind of warp around a couple of times, so I can't tell if he's got a questionable internet or it's some nerdy exploit like the "lock the fps cap to 20 with a hotkey for a second" thing

[night stratus]

300 fps with 30 ping

[undone anchor]

Should have no problems then 🤔

I wouldn't recommend using that specific combo as a go to personally tho 🤔

It carries a lot of risks (but it's cool, so it's worth 🤔😂)

[rich talon]

I can confirm, Comboing isn’t all lmao. Wanted to hop in ranked after that. Eu Solo completely dead as usual. Decided to do a Casual Round. First Guy, was under lvl 20. Did a 1 2 Dash, 1 2 Dash every time. I had a grey Katana. Dude obliterated me. I did like 50 damage per hit to him. These 25% dmg reduction

Never closed a game that fast tbh

[undone anchor]

😆

happens

[rich talon]

This was a sign, to never play that game when u are tired

[lusty cosmos]

The other day I won yang playing solo duos. Then I forgot to loot the box and went straight out into the loving embrace of a team waiting for me I knew it was time to sleep

[agile tree]

did this with 1v3 medium bots lol. Now gotta try to do it with hard bots lmao

[rich talon]

Unfortunate

I’ve wanted to try the things, Marko and Eldrakicks mentioned to me, what I can improve. I’m getting absolutely cooked at work today. No improvement arc for me today I guess

[dim abyss]

i can tell you why

when you C drop like that and you dodge forward, you WILL do a roll

if you want to hold dodge into an attack from the C drop, you need to dodge to the side

this is why it's a movement tech, if you want to start sprinting immediately after dropping, to drop angled to the side and start sprinting to the side

so just do the dodge to the side and it will work every time

you can see in the video he hold dodges to the left

and then uses the attack to pull himself into the enemy

[torpid trellis]

depending on your character pick it might be easier than you think

[undone anchor]

It's fine, tyt and results will show up

[agile tree]

did it with viper ning (tho tbf her ulti that stuns people makes it OP if you mix it with great sword or polesword) + feria shen (it was difficult than viper ning and very rare, and was unable to screecap it happening lol)

[undone anchor]

bots are usually pretty easy to deal with; even on hard difficulty. still it's a good achievement for a person that is starting out 👍

keep it up

[agile tree]

I have been mostly playing bots and showdown. Just trying to figure out how to use each character's ult and skills and figure out what to main for each character + how to use it to prep for hard bots mode (mostly solo cause I can't for the life of me handle duo or trio for hard mode).

so far the characters I main is inor wan (for obvious reasons, great mobility skill + ult to pull out of tough situations), akos, yoto, tarka (esp his safe counter skill)

The worst one so far me in general is ziping. skills and ults are mostly for support not fighting though that one ult she has can heal her when she is KO'd. Though if you are a pro at neutral against hard bots, shouldn't be too much of an issue

[analog hawk]

rmb last time when i was talking abt that rlly sexy bow combo

it was that he showed in the last clip

[undone anchor]

Yes?

U hit it?

[analog hawk]

I WISH

😭

[undone anchor]

Oh, I see 🤔

[analog hawk]

ok i dont wanan speak anymore

[undone anchor]

Why?

[analog hawk]

u think too highly of me

[undone anchor]

Always 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

People are amazing

U got the potential , and the will

[analog hawk]

i hit it in free range

byut only one shot

[undone anchor]

Then you hit it

[analog hawk]

and i missed the others

😭

i gave up on lyan liu

i learned that one that u showed me with the heng sword

ty coach

im spending all my hours in free training

[undone anchor]

Now, I'm amazed and scared at that at the same time 🤔😂

[analog hawk]

uhm

like

i can do it on the bot

but not one real ppl

only like the bad players i can hit it

😭

i js sit there and learn combos i rlly cant do them well in a game setting

[undone anchor]

Well...

I fully understand 😂🤔

I can't even grapple combo in a normal game, too low FPS 🤔😂

I lose about 50 when I swap to real game from training tool 😂

[analog hawk]

for me thats usually not the issue

[undone anchor]

So All I do as combo is just for the challenge

[analog hawk]

yeahh

ur combos are so nice

[undone anchor]

It's most likely neutral id imagine 🤔

[analog hawk]

heheh

i wanan be like u

[analog hawk]

yaa

its hard fighting for neutral against some rlly good ppl

i do custom but i manage to scrap a kill from them every 4 times i die

😭

[undone anchor]

Really basic tho. Real good people are on another level, like @nimble lotus 👍

[undone anchor]

Learning neutral is a pain, it's the part of Naraka where you will always have room for improvement

It takes a lot of sweat and tears

[analog hawk]

yeah

unfortunately

[undone anchor]

It's part of what makes the game hard but interesting

[analog hawk]

i think i do need a coach for that aspect of playing

[undone anchor]

It's a fighting game after all

[analog hawk]

mhm

i rlly like learning combos

[undone anchor]

You can try and join #🏋┃dojo-coaching to see how it can help fi u want 🤔👍

[analog hawk]

using them on ppl are a diff story

[analog hawk]

[undone anchor]

Otherwise I can try helping out, but from EU the max I can do is analyze clips sadly 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

[analog hawk]

i watched mr bins vods

and i learned about fighting for neutral there

heh

i understand it but hard to do it in game idk

[undone anchor]

Good start

[undone anchor]

It's a matter of recognizing patterns mostly

When in game you are stressed and pressed by the enemy. Especially at the beginning you are thinking of a lot of things, too many things to focus on.

The more you get used to it, the less stressed you will be, because there will be less things to keep an eye from actively

The key is finding a part you want to focus on and work on it; when it becomes natural, next thing,...

[analog hawk]

yeah

its rlly hard to catch them slip if they rlly good

yk i usually get them to slip up after i die alot

[undone anchor]

What a coach can do, is point out those things generally, but application is always up to you

[analog hawk]

cuz they get used to me doing smth but i change it up

😭

[analog hawk]

find a naraka tutor

let me go to cn and get sm1 off douyin to make me the next spider

[undone anchor]

Well, if you know Chinese that's for sure a good option 🤔😂🤷🏻‍♂️

Only thing, they ask to get paid usually

[analog hawk]

ofc ofc

😭

i think best i can do is

play customs more

[undone anchor]

Yep, and if u need ulterior help or some pointers don't hesitate to send a few clips and we'll do what we can to help 👍👍

[analog hawk]

yes coach

[analog hawk]

the v hd v cv g cv v h fv so hard to hit

is there any tips for the timing 2nd cv v h 😭 i seem to always miss the h

like they dont float so i cant hit the fv

for longsword

[wary escarp]

Carousel is famous to be position depended

[analog hawk]

what that mean

[wary escarp]

Carousel is the name for the combo you mentioned (the last part anyway). As for position depended, you need to hit your opponent from specific angle and grapple with specific location to do it on flat ground.

That's what I heard anyway

I tried and still can't figure out much how to do it consistently

[analog hawk]

ou i see

u need to do the first bump correctly?

i see some ppl do that with no cv g they js do cv and into it

[wary escarp]

@rich talon You seem like you have practice a lot with the carousel, maybe give us a tip

[undone anchor]

There are multiple ways to do carousel

Either with a 211 like akio, you can do it after an uppercut, a grapple bump,...

[analog hawk]

ya

whats 211

again

[undone anchor]

Uppercut, swap, dash, cancel with another swap to get controls midair

[analog hawk]

huhh

[undone anchor]

The combo itself it's pretty hard. It requires precision and most importantly it changes a bit in timing and execution depending on the direction the enemy's body is facing

Because the hitbox is slightly different

[analog hawk]

ou ya

i do it on the back

cuz i see most ppl do it liek that

i js cant hit the v h afterwards

😭

[undone anchor]

V h? Vertical into horizontal?

[analog hawk]

yes

after the cv

[undone anchor]

That's the hard part 🤔. Either the vertical is too early (sending enemies too far forward) or you are not forward enough with your character

[analog hawk]

uhm

[undone anchor]

It's a matter of finding the timing of when to start pressing w

[analog hawk]

i send them too far i think

[analog hawk]

whats the timing for it

[undone anchor]

Do you have a clip? 🤔

[analog hawk]

middle of uppercut?

or js before or after it

[undone anchor]

Depends on your FPS a little bit

[analog hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/wawa-cat-wawawa-meme-gif-25812133

[undone anchor]

Ideally yes if you are just doing 1 uppercut