#🔱┃weapons-combat

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torpid trellis
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I did it many times, got times around 35 seconds

undone anchor
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Definitely not the easiest mechanic to use when in a oinch

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Pinch*

torpid trellis
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My favourite is getting stuck on surfaces

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Or when I want to go up a ledge, the animation plays, and I stay in place

undone anchor
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What is your ping?

torpid trellis
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40-ish

dim abyss
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depends on how low u used to play on

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if u used to play on below 100 fps or especially 60 and u upgrade to 200+ u will straight up play better

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it's just movement tech btw

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for optimal wall sticking

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make sure your wall interaction is set to Tap

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you won't stick properly if it's on Hold

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and then you just need to realize there are ways to keep yourself immune to grapple stagger

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such as with scale rush or sliding uppercuts or focus dashing

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you need to time those while being chased

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and likewise you need to time your grapple in between those while chasing

analog oxide
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Omg uppercut makes you immune to stagger?!

naive plaza
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Not exactly, but it is an attack, and if you’re doing an attack when someone also tries to attack you (as long as they use a light attack as well) you’ll clash instead of getting put into a combo

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Doing attacks like jump LMBs and uppercuts/scale rush attacks also negate grapple stagger since grapples are considered a light attack sortve

analog oxide
undone anchor
brittle plank
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I think either the short handled or dual wield weapons should get congeneric combos

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Be cool to mix it up with the fan and the nunchucks

safe wigeon
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Is there a point of diminishing returns for fps? I know they changed a bit about fps a patch or two ago but it didn’t apply to all gameplay.

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Aka; am I shooting myself in the foot keeping fps around 200-240 with the game looking pretty bebu_sadge would there be a major gameplay change if I just put everything on low/lowest(so uglybebu_sadge )and played 300+? pandadeskcry

velvet falcon
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You see the difference in rift traversal. High fps allows the person to pick up stuff from chests first

safe wigeon
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Respectfully, just looking for some first hand knowledge/feedback from the ppl with high fps if they observed a noticeable change in gameplay from a 220 average, to around a 320 average. For instance, I can hit katana float into 1 2 3 on both but 320fps feels easier. However I’m willing to lose some easiness in return for a better looking experience. As long as it doesn’t heavily affect competing for neutrals.

sly ore
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i can give you a B$ estimation not backed by science but personal experience and estimations from others

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but i am not sure you would like it

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or take it serious at all

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dm me if you are interested

safe wigeon
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I’m interested narakacheer just trying to determine how much ugliness I put up with for fps increase. DERP The difference between 100+ and 200+ feels fairly significant to me in testing, but 200+ to 300+ didn’t feel that different?

compact island
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The more FPS you have the faster you will move, simple as that, but as Magnolia says at 120 you are fine unless you are at a very high competitive level where frames matter, which tbh cannot even be reached in NA due to shitty netcode and not having LAN play like CN

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but if you have a PC able to handle 240, you are already at peak level, the benefit for going beyond that are very small, some crazy combos were possible breaching that line, but I think they patched many of them

wicked socket
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120 is the lowest I'd go, any lower and the combo system starts to simply not behave as intended and stuff you're supposed to be able to do stops working. All but the most jank and advanced routes work at 120

rich talon
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Has anyone a good Combo Video for Ps5? A friend of mine can’t really get the hang of double uppercuts. ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
rich talon
undone anchor
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Consoles don't always get there

rich talon
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He can get tries, where the bot pops up in the air but it’s very inconsistent. The other half the bot stays on the ground PE_PandaSipTooHard

undone anchor
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So, there isn't a way to really make them consistent due to fps cap on console 👍

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That was my point 😂👍

rich talon
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But Naraka supports 120 Frames on Ps5, or am I wrong? AU_BunnySip

digital scarab
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say does anyone know combo for using Fistblade with skypunch? i find the original fistblade basic combo finish with the guarantee blue focus much more rewarding than just use sky punch no?
since if i use sky punch the fistblade combo wont work

lusty cosmos
rich talon
lusty cosmos
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Consoles have more input lag tho generally, so timing is harder to get right.

torpid trellis
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so does SEA actually move to EU to invade the servers or what

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theres so many SEA players in EU queues with seemingly no ping issues

viscid kelp
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The region tags only tell you which server an account first logged into

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People who never stepped into asia can have SEA tag

torpid trellis
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theyre new people though

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and the accounts arent new

viscid kelp
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Define new people

torpid trellis
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new names

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and theyre not namechanged, cause the old ones are still there

viscid kelp
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How would you define a name as new
It might just be someone you've never seen before

torpid trellis
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with how limited the amount of players is, i dont think its hard to spot someone new

viscid kelp
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It's limited, but we're talking limited to hundreds, not tens

torpid trellis
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no, its tens since we're limiting it to the SEA tag

viscid kelp
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Either way, the whole regional tag thing is meaningless
There are people who just deliberately first log onto SA or SEA to have the region tag for their smurf
There are people who accidentally for whatever reason first logged onto a region other than their own
And there are plenty of folk from Asia who study in Europe, so they might be here during the semester and back in their home country during semester break

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Based on that there's also most certainly hundreds of folks with SEA tag, they just might not be active players

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I can tell you that I'm in a private server with at least 60 people who are from eastern asia and have played on EU

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(properly, i.e. while being here physically)

torpid trellis
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right

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i genuinely wonder if anyone ever got banned for smurfing

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since its there as a report reason

viscid kelp
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In probably around 10000 hours of interacting with this game by either playing, talking or watching, I haven't heard of that ever happening in the west

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In general the entire matchmaking/rank system falls apart in the west

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In China though it might be a much bigger thing
I know account boosting is a large business there for instance

torpid trellis
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probably, think thats the case in most competitive games

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the amount of sub acc lvl 70 on top 500 boards is nuts

wicked socket
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since i think they only recently started to realize how bad it was at 60

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it's straight dysfunctional, 120 is how it's intended to work

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and what i imagine things will be stabilized too once they fix it

dim abyss
wicked socket
latent jungle
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I like the staff and spear

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:D

devout summit
latent jungle
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Ye

devout summit
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Wanna guess what I like

latent jungle
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Dagger

devout summit
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It alr

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But hint it a sword

latent jungle
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Polesword

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👁👄👁

devout summit
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How

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😭

latent jungle
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I beat a high level player yipper

devout summit
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Oh hmmmmm

latent jungle
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Yippee

devout summit
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😓

latent jungle
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It said he was like no.33 in some state I cant remember

devout summit
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Dude there a lot of states

latent jungle
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Still gotta be good to get number 33 in the state

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I think

devout summit
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I mean sure

latent jungle
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I'm finally level 20

devout summit
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Sooo cool guess my level (it very low)

latent jungle
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I've played a whole 15 games

devout summit
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Damn

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Rank ?

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Or just quick

latent jungle
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I cant play ranked

devout summit
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Why ?

latent jungle
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Not level 50

devout summit
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Oh yeah 😓

latent jungle
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I'm 9 for 15 rn

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And i got a skin for my favorite character

devout summit
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Cool today the only reason I’ve been losing is my lag

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And what ur fav character

latent jungle
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Kylin

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Idk what the skin was i forgit

devout summit
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Nice

latent jungle
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I've been doing good every game I have 19k+ dmg and the most kills unless my teammates steals them

devout summit
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I haven’t tried him yet my fav is Tarka and wanna play some time ?

latent jungle
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Maybe

indigo condor
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How does it works, when I can't play with Katana, but my best weapon is Heng Sword?

compact island
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Heng Sword has a cheat cancel button with no penalty whatsover, too strong

indigo condor
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Yepp, and distance. Somewhat distance of Heng Sword is much more comfy, than that of katana

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At first I thought I will use all weapons, but from some ELO, I am getting punished for using weapon which I have no strong feeling of. So... My progress with all weapons except for Heng Blade, Tessen(Fan), Glaive and Spear, actually stopped. Nunchack are fine if I have nothing else

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And using other, even golden weapons, I mostly suck, compared to the blue or even white mentioned above weapons.
So, is that normal, or should I actually go over myself and train other weapons too?

naive plaza
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its normal to have weapons youre better with than others, but you should try to be comfortable on all weapons

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that way if you come across a gold weapon you can use it regardless of what weapon it is

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or if you find a really strong jade for a weapon

indigo condor
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Kk, I'll try

sage lotus
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how do people use the grappling hook for combos😭

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flying fans is so goated

wary escarp
wary escarp
analog hawk
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hi vang

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^^

wary escarp
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Hello there

undone anchor
agile tree
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Question is it better to tap dodge forward your opponent + horizontal slash after you knocked them down but they are still somewhat too far away from you (like when you use a longsword charge at some distance) or is it better to use a grappling hook close to their position and start horizontal slashing?

dim abyss
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and to tech chase you want to use hold dodge

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tap dodge has too many recovery frames

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longsword is great for this because vertical is the combo starter

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but they will get up so you can time your hold dodge and lmb to start a combo on them

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it's called a tech chase, timing your attack with their dodge/roll to catch the recovery frame and combo start them again

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it works great on people who spam dodge to get away from you

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i don't recommend grappling a lot in combat, it leaves you with a lot of vulnerable frames

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good players will punish your reckless grapples

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it's easy to get a bow headshot in, or just hit you out of it even

wary escarp
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If they are too far for you to do a hold dodge attack, pull out your range weapon if you are in 1v1 situation and shot them, this will either force them to gap close you themselves or pull out their range.

lusty cosmos
agile tree
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is it a good idea for someone who is handling bots well or ok in medium bots to move to hard bots? I'm guessing not? I heard that there is a huge very huge difficulty jump (like solar level esports player jump)

undone anchor
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Without seeing it for yourself, how can you measure your own progress? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤔

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Worst case scenario you will try again at a later date 🤔👍

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Hard bots are still feasible in the end tho 👍 they just parry more and release less 👍

agile tree
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yeah im under lvl 20, getting close to there tho

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any advice tho once I reach there? I know for sure tactics against medium/easy bots will not work with them.

wary escarp
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Trying to win against them is like trying to win against a punching bag

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Bots don't operated like players, you also playing in much more ideal situation since bot mode is a lot less laggy compare to pvp. Skills that you learned in bot mode could be something ultimately harming you in pvp

compact island
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if you try to take actions vs bots, they will always perfectly counter it, so just wait for them to take action first

analog oxide
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focus slap is key, weapon focus will get you parried bebu_Spank

dim abyss
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don't play bots

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they play nothing like players

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go play ranked solos or custom 1v1s

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and if u need an easy way to defeat bots

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just unequip your weapon and slap them to death

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they can't defend themselves

analog oxide
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One day I'll beat the bots without use of slaps

naive plaza
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Some bots will range if you range them lol I’ve whipped out a musket or bow to get slow shot/fire arrow charges and the bots decide to shoot back instead of going for melee sometimes

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So it just becomes an aim game & the bots don’t have perfect aimbot actually

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Ez way to deal with them imo

agile tree
agile tree
agile tree
analog oxide
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they keep dashing at me when i aim like a madman

naive plaza
compact island
agile tree
compact island
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they will, as I said if you take first action they will perfectly counter it, just get familiar with movement and punish them, you will never win if you act first

agile tree
compact island
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it will take time, you really need to get use to it, so do not get frustrated if it does not work at first

agile tree
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for sure

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just also won a medium bot game with me going solo vs duo bots. took me many tries lol. going solo against solo med bots is one thing but going against duo med is another

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just wish we had ai fill in as our teammates 😦

compact island
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2v1 hardbots will not be possible, haha

agile tree
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yeah 1v1 only lol

compact island
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unless you just do the press to win options

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which I assume you are not using, cuz bots cannot fight ults

agile tree
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can they not fight ults? I use them occasionally when I'm in a very tight spot

compact island
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at the point the game is now, i think fighting bots is more fun than players, since playing people is just who has better ult

compact island
agile tree
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yeah probably will try to use them sparingly like I always do

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I wish there was an option for mixed bots tho

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that would spice things up

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in fact I might suggest it in this channel if there is a section for it

agile tree
compact island
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Well the game was never really "Alive" in the west to be fair

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but yeah game is currently losing population in general

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I left the game

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due to massive press to win options getting more and more common

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but they think that will bring more players cuz is more casual friendly

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is not bringing more players and is making players that actually liked the game in the west, just leave

agile tree
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yeah I might be one of the casuals tbh, that's why I stay on bots lol. Never been a pvp guy, though I did dip my toe in it once in a while

compact island
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there is showdown for PvE

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is not bad, just very grindy

agile tree
compact island
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its easier than hard bots tbh, but it does have a lot of gear checks, many stuff you cannot clear till you have the right stats

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and ofc you need to memorize boss patterns

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but thats is common in most PvEs

agile tree
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or easier

compact island
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yeah as I said is not really hard you just have to memorize stuff and grind the proper gear

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the "hard" part is having the diligence for the grind, haha

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its a lot of grind

agile tree
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does the grind carry exp and skills over to the BR mode or is it exclusive to that?

compact island
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no

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completely different modes

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and are played completely different

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the mobility and mechanical skill you learn for BR even against bots

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is useles in showdown and viceversa

wary escarp
agile tree
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Just tried a couple of hard bot rounds. they were not as hard as I thought it was but made it to top 2 with some kills (lost) and made it to number 1 (hitting and running but only got 1 kill)

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gotta say though, I need to just start fighting every bot I come across for now. I have been mostly playing passive. so I can learn their behaviors. gotta say playing defensively helps. though I have a hard time trying to hold or tap shift to get away (I end up rolling alot instead) 😦

main sigil
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oh wait this isnt rift mb 💀

compact island
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winning a bot match is very easy no matter the difficulty, cuz as I said they suck at tracking, if you just run they will kill each other.
Consistently win vs a hard bot without wasting resources is the tricky/hard part

rich talon
undone anchor
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WP!! Kylin_hearty

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Now with the double uppercut!

rich talon
undone anchor
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It would be a great starting step 😂🤔

rich talon
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Playing on a Crap Laptop, cause my Pc don’t post and don’t even boot into bios Kurumi_Scared

undone anchor
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I feel that, minus the having a pc part 🤔😂

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Only playing on a crappy laptop cuz that's what I got 😂

rich talon
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I mean I got a 4060 Laptop GPU and a idk i7 14800x oder some weird CPU in there…

rich talon
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From a 9800x3D and a 4090 it’s not that great tbf.

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But still better than nothing Bebu_pizza

undone anchor
rich talon
undone anchor
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They recently added it

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I just wanted to do smth with it cuz it looks cool 😂

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So far this is the only one I found that's also consistent

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If u do regular uppercut and swap it's going to start the congeneric aswell (in case)

rich talon
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I’ve tried that yesterday against a bot.

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Blud parried me Bebu_wow

undone anchor
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Rip😂

rich talon
undone anchor
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Can't parry if u do it correctly

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The matter is hitting having the ult sending them the right direction and having them still in the air when I throw the ball

rich talon
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I’ve seen in the Vid now, that u can use it instantly. Idk if my timing is ass but for me it only works at the third Letter Bebu_pizza

undone anchor
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It's tight

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Release it exactly as it shows

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Like a 0.9 release pretty much

rich talon
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Ahh alr. Got it Kylin_hearty

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I go try it, when I’m home from work. ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
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👍👍

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It's just a cool one, definitely not optimal 😂

rich talon
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But maybe for a clip it looks cool fanks

undone anchor
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Definitely

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If u hit one let me know 🤔😂👍

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I think it works also after a double uppercut, but I can't be bothered to try ATM 👍

rich talon
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I try it in casual. Cause I play with a friend who think it’s smart to skip Training. Blud can’t even press c vertical and q… But training isn’t useful… Valda_heart

undone anchor
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Yep, not useful at all 👀😂😂

rich talon
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Agreed 01heh

rich talon
undone anchor
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Weird keybinds placement and harder timing

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It's a mid level combo

rich talon
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I just put the weapon away on a Mouse Side Button. Then it’s not that hard. Standard Bind is 6 if I remember correctly sleepy_bnuy

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That’s very weird and my fingers aren’t even big enough for that gcatfire

undone anchor
rich talon
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Crouch on Mouse? bebu_nom_what

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Nah my brain couldn’t handle that haha

undone anchor
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It's the easiest TBF 🤔

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No need to look for keys, it's always under your thumb

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For me at least

viscid kelp
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I think there's two ways you could consider either easier/harder

On some fps/ping conditions, it can be incredibly hard to connect certain grapple combos, but using a 211 can make it work more easily

Input wise however, I'd always consider 211 harder than a simple grapple combo

undone anchor
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rich talon
undone anchor
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Fair

rich talon
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Yeah I’ve played (please don’t hate me) Fortnite quiet a lot and know where the Keys are. Bebu_wow 01heh

analog oxide
wary escarp
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They will fight each other if you survive and dodge out of the jump

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Their target is like the closet opponent, not you

lusty cosmos
analog oxide
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so i never run from fight bebu_Sweating

rich talon
rich talon
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Maybe too hard ZipingYin_Panic

compact island
agile tree
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also I main the staff because its user friendly lol until I lose it ofc

agile tree
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please skim through it if needed, didn't realize it was 11 mins lol. its just a compilation of clips of me winning/losing/or running away. Just need tips of how to deal with certain scenarios. I think my issue is that there are times I try to play defensively but get countered

analog oxide
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time stamp?

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poor dying in the storm tho

agile tree
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Yeah that was the worst, it was my best match of the day too....I will provide timestamps of the fights where I get countered

meager trail
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you need better camera work

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you lose sight of target so many times

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also hold more and release less

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more mind games, holding blue make you immune to light attack stagger
so you just hold it, if they light attack you you can release, if they parry you can wait for the parry effect to be over then release, or you can dodge into a light attack into a combo, if they also hold you can dodge away then hold again, or you can time your dodge to dodge their blue release then catch them at the end of their blue attack animation with a light attack into combo

agile tree
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that last one cause me to be entirely unarmed lmao...not good

agile tree
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Also I think its hard to tell when bots counter you, sometimes its predictable with that red and sometimes they instant do it with no prediction. However can still be a skill issue tho

meager trail
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if you've been holding too long and you think you gonna get parry if you release, don't release, just cancel the hold then hold again

agile tree
meager trail
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on 1v1 situation most of the time you don't gamble release

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only release when you're pretty certain you won't get parried, or you have the tool to get out of that parry

agile tree
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I assume it isn't that easy

meager trail
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there isn't a pattern

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you can only be sure that they won't parry you if they're stuck in the middle of another action, or they're getting staggered/cc'ed

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also if you don't mind me asking, why your questions are about fighting bots? you don't have plan to fight real player?

agile tree
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its the best PVE BR game that I every played tbh

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and that is a dying niche IMO

meager trail
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i see

compact island
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also staff and spear are one of those weapons bots have a hard time with, just spam

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H>c.H>H>c.H>H>c.H

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auto win, I suggest using other weapons to spice things up

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and yeah never use a charge atk vs a bot unless in the middle of a combo

agile tree
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are there also weapons to avoid while fighting hard bots?

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I assume longsword (not easy to master), heavy weapons like polesword or greatsword due to easy counters

compact island
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those 2, cuz it make them trivial, haha

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if you are playing bot mode only, cheesing them will make the mode boring

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not sure what you are looking for here

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if you just wanna win

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run make them fight each other

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and jump on the last 2

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at the end

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win

agile tree
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yeah I also want to semi hold myself against the bots too for fun

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don't want to play passive all the time

compact island
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practice katana combos

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and do not use hold atks unless is part of the combo

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atk only when punishing

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that will make it a solid challenge

agile tree
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might give that a shot

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will need to keep playing the bot mode to keep getting better I guess while getting my ass kicked lol

analog oxide
# agile tree 4:12, 4:50, 5:10, 6:30, 6:55, 9:13, 9:50, 10:30

4:12 - really scary 3rd strike focus situation, too much time for human especially bot to parry, also grabbling you saw he hold focus you need to prepare to parry or jump cancel
4:50 - once again due to distance and slow hit its easy for human and bot to parry with reactions
5:10 - same with the 3rd strike focus
6:30 - yup that's bot for you, most human wouldnt be able to react
6:55 - if you miss the first focus, you have to look away (attack air) because its very likely enemy will parry you easily
9:13 - same about releasing 3rd strike focus

summary: you shouldn't release focus attacks unless you know they are animation locked or cc

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once again the bot are insanely good at parry compared to human

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im not good at the game but even i will be able to parry you 9 out of 10 times like that, unless somebody else stun/stagger me

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bot games are really hard 😭

agile tree
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yeah they truly are hard (btw still reading and analyzing your latest comments lol). alot of times I just take a break from hard bots and just play medium bots (against trios or duos). feel like they offer a challenge but not overwhelming like hard bots lol

analog oxide
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this game is too hard

agile tree
analog oxide
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bot ofc, i cant even get 1 kill in pvp

agile tree
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hard mode bot I'm guessing? did ya win son?

analog oxide
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got lucky and won yes

agile tree
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my main strat so far is to just play defensively (as suggested) and just hold focus charge or cancel it if I don't see an opening. I tried doing normal attack strings (aside from greatsword or other heavy weapons) up before the 3rd attacks, didnt' work out. I think I need to time that better

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that or play passively

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this is what happens when you have a filthy casual like me try to get good lol

rich talon
onyx loomBOT
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🎉 | 丶.akiio leveled up!

undone anchor
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It could help a bit

wary escarp
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This chain should be working fine

undone anchor
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It usually feels like an easier timing

wary escarp
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The clips is trying to chime in another cH in between carousel

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Instead of V-H-V, he tried to V-cH-H-V

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I don't think you can use vertical instead of horizontal anywhere in this chain

undone anchor
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Reason being, the second uppercut is slightly lower afaik 👍

rich talon
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Or my timing is ass Bebu_pissed

wary escarp
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Just really tight

pure lion
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hi i suck at combat

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how do i get better

wary escarp
pure lion
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sucking enemy attacks

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i suck em so good i die fast

wary escarp
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Well if you get staggered by attack a lot then try holding focus more

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Holding focus both threaten your opponent you might release while you yourself immune to non focus attack

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a good way to check their habit with parry also

pure lion
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i lack combo knowledge

wary escarp
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But if you yourself eat focus a lot, try use dodge to remove yourself out of their range

wary escarp
# pure lion i lack combo knowledge

Combo is just you optimizing your damage output once you caught your enemy. If you can't catch your enemy, your combo knowledges will not help you

pure lion
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right

wary escarp
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Still I won't deny you the thought of learning combo

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@pure lion try learning grapple combo first, if you face any problem, record a clip and send a clip here

pure lion
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are there any tutorials here

wary escarp
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you should find some

pure lion
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ty

wary escarp
undone anchor
trim sail
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can dual halberds charged vertical hit on a 90 degreee upwards?

undone anchor
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No, it only goes in front of you

trim sail
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so it's impossible then

unreal wyvern
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this is what actually happened

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blue is the hitbox

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green is ur char model

trim sail
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i mean if he would be hitting forward and just juggling us on top of his hits then i wouldn't mind

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but he hits upwards, idk if it's just animation being weird Shrug

wary escarp
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At the same time you are not that high up so you can actually avoid any normal hit still

compact island
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no more explanation is needed, just look at the draw

rich talon
rich talon
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Half of it is downhill but otherwise I can’t hit that Valda_Thumbsup

undone anchor
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Otherwise on a flat surface u can only hit regular carousel 👍

rich talon
undone anchor
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Also, was the enemy up against a wall?

rich talon
rich talon
undone anchor
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Then it should be feasible, just really precise

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👍👍👍

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I stand corrected

rich talon
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At 1:50

undone anchor
# rich talon At 1:50

He gets a higher float than you due to the fact the he's exactly under the enemy when he hits that vertical 👍

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If the enemy is higher up you got the time

gilded vortex
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What makes my weapon imbued with fire sometimes? (not in showdown)

meager trail
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smolder & assault souljade

lusty cosmos
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Also blistering edge

agile tree
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For solos in general, what characters should be used and avoided? I know certain characters whose skills and ultis are better for teamwork rather than fighting.

onyx loomBOT
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dim abyss
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lyam super good

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tarka super good

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avoid tianhai - trios char

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avoid kurumi - team modes char

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there are other good picks for it but i don't play solos much so someone else can fill those

agile tree
# dim abyss avoid kurumi - team modes char

Can agree that any healing based character isnt good for solo. Except for that one healer girl that gives you one more life after a defeat. But that can get chipped away easily.

lusty cosmos
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But really just play who you like

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Unless you are facing top 100 players in your lobbies or you're struggling a lot to find success in solos

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But it mainly comes down to your neutral, movement, and game sense over the hero you pick

long idol
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Any combos for knives?

agile tree
lusty cosmos
mild void
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Yo guys
Why can't I hit the freeze from Justina V1 ult activation in the uppercut and insta dash?
I discovered it works with no issue on halberds/blades cause enemies fly too far so I have enough time to do the dash and freeze before enemy can roll to dodge
But it doesn't work on other weapons cause they just don't seem to get pushed away far enough
Watched Psyclops video where he says we should dash/jump to cancel her ult start animation so we manage the dash freeze but like I said it doesn't work for me anyway except on halberds/blades
I'm around 120fps normally and 40-50ping

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I heard some claims this got nerfed and stuff but I do still see people on YouTube doing the thing

dim abyss
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iirc justina raw dragon got removed

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so that combo might be outdated

undone anchor
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It got removed indeed

earnest wasp
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Too bad there ain´t so much up-to-date in depth videos on youtube anymore for combos :´(

wary escarp
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@earnest wasp well we have this

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Basic combos are generally good to go for since its consistency. Some advance combo are needed to do higher damage.

lusty cosmos
acoustic epoch
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this might be a dumb question but what's the second charged attack of staff? Isn't it replaced by the precise charged?

undone anchor
acoustic epoch
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so staff lotus step is a scam???

wary escarp
acoustic epoch
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its from extraction mode

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after the second charged attack, you get a special dodge. A horizontal attack afterwards turn into a finisher

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I tried many times but I couldn't access the doge

wary escarp
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Oh, I don't play extraction mode much

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I don't think I can help

undone anchor
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It probably means that they added the else in extraction mode

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I recommend asking in the dedicated channel for this , they probably have more infos

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(I don't play either that mode, but possibly, same as they did for showdown, there are some extra moves )

acoustic epoch
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alright I try

undone anchor
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👍

molten star
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quick question for those on controller, is there optimal keybinds i should be running? because i just started to like actually want to learn combos instead of relying on focus attacks but i can’t seem to find a way to make that one combo where you hit them up then grapple workout for me

compact island
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not sure if there is an "optimal" way out there.
But what you really need to do is take the crouch button out of the stick click, it will mess you up so hard when trying to combo

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I put the interact button in there, cuz I do not need that button in combat much, so I could spare it

analog hawk
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is there like an up to date video about weapon combos i can find

wary escarp
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@analog hawk we have this

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Some of the combo is rather fps depended but most of them should still be working fine

analog hawk
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how muhc fps i need

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😭

wary escarp
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at least that's for me

analog hawk
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guh

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okok

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can i check fps

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in game

wary escarp
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If you using steam, you can check with steam overlay

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Still I am not very well into the technical stuff

dusty forge
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What meele weapons are actually the best

meager trail
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hands

undone anchor
long idol
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so im trying this flying knives combo at the end but the dummy gets some green armor mid combo after grapple and just walks away

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ig disengage, players have this?

undone anchor
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If you want to practice combo it's recommended disabling the disengage when setting up the bot

rich talon
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Guess its a timing issue again? Idk how to chain them consitently. Bebu_pizza
But i saw nohara doing this like 4 times ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

naive plaza
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I think it’s a height thing, was nohara on even ground or was he going down hill/down a slope? Having terrain that slopes downwards gives you more height on the subsequent uppercuts b/c the ground is actually getting lower as the juggle continues if that makes sense 😅

rich talon
naive plaza
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welp youre low ping high fps so it shouldnt be a slow animation issue

long idol
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I can do all the combos from Takao aside from Spear, it just doesn't want to connect 🤔

safe wigeon
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When you press “P” the Ui goes away (also I am discovering I think it’s a fps boost lmao), however anytime you grab a item, or press tab the ui comes back. Is there any way to toggle it to stay off until you press “P” again?Hadi_Look

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Mb don’t know if this is a weapons-combat question or a help question

wary escarp
safe wigeon
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If I just lock in enough I’ll remember the cooldown times and rely on faith that my health is fine trust trust

analog hawk
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yooo

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does this katana combo still work

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H D H CV G CV AH H H FV

wary escarp
wary escarp
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however to connect AH -> H

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If I'm not wrong, you will need to delay the AH so you descend a bit before hitting it and connecting H is fps depended

undone anchor
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It's just tight

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And requires higher FPS to work (around 200 fps it becomes more consistent I think? ) . Haven't been able to do it on 100 yet

rich talon
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I’ve seen now, that I forgot the grapple at the beginning… Bebu_pizza
Does that make a difference then? ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

analog hawk
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When I grapple into them is there a way to hit the CV after it more consistently sometimes it js does a normal vertical instead

analog hawk
undone anchor
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U see pros usually ending it with a carousel instead of a fourth uppercut

undone anchor
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Or at the wrong time

analog hawk
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ah I see

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Can I js hold c

undone anchor
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For double uppercuts I always recommend grappling a bit further than what you usually do for grapple focus combos 🤔👍, it helps

analog hawk
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Hm alr alr

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Thanks

undone anchor
analog hawk
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I saw that katana combo online and thought it was cool

undone anchor
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It is indeed

analog hawk
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Beh

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I’m still so bad

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But combo so fun

undone anchor
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Also pretty inconsistent. People usually go for it to clip farm

undone anchor
analog hawk
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I saw it in a highlight montage

undone anchor
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Once you start incorporating it with characters skills and abilities it becomes even better

rich talon
undone anchor
analog hawk
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With his choke thingy

undone anchor
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Ohhh

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I got a whole YouTube playlist of those 😂

analog hawk
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Send

undone anchor
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I was prolly the lead explorer of that ability when he came out

analog hawk
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I had a vision

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Ykyk

undone anchor
undone anchor
analog hawk
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Its like

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The basic combo

undone anchor
analog hawk
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With the grapple

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And then afterwards

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Choke

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And redo it

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Lmao

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Idk how wel thag will work

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Something like that

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Ya

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I learn uh

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Katana and henf sword rlly wel

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The rest kinda iffy

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Katana and heng combo very similar

undone anchor
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Katana does not throw the enemy in the air, hence they can dodge the following choke

analog hawk
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Ohh

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Ya

undone anchor
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(same uppercut, crouch, horizontal, vertical....)

analog hawk
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But like

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The thing woth dual halbert and sword is kinda diff

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The combo diff

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Like uh

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Blades u have dash and get an extra vertical in

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But halbert u can’t

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Ya

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After the focus

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U can sneak an extra vertical

undone anchor
analog hawk
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For dual

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But halbert they dodge

undone anchor
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Difference is that the follow-up focus on halberds does not connect because the focus attack itself juggles the enemies lower

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On dual blades the enemy is stuck in the air, higher up

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But aside that, all animations are the same 👍👍

analog hawk
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Mhm mhm

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I noticed that when I was learning the combos

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Most of the weapon same same

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Do yk the popular longsword combo

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It starts like

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V D V CV G CV

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I don’t remember the rest

undone anchor
undone anchor
analog hawk
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😭

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I think there’s like an air attack

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And then smth smth

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I forgot

undone anchor
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I would imagine u are thinking of 211 carousels🤔

analog hawk
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Uh

undone anchor
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Double uppercut into juggle while on the ground

analog hawk
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idk

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I kinda new not familiar with the lingo

undone anchor
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Cuz if you do an air attack usually you have to follow up with another, hence there aren't many combo potentials there

analog hawk
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I’m not sure that they doing exactly

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I have the idea js not sure the full combo

undone anchor
acoustic epoch
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when someone is stunned, should you start a combo or fully charge a weapon?

undone anchor
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Combos usually deal more damage

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This is why we use them

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Unless you have smth like a golden jade or smth

analog hawk
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I see people stun sm1 when countering and then using a combo that js keeps bouncing sm1 in the air forever

undone anchor
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Then again it depends on the stun, most don't allow to lift the enemy off the ground

analog hawk
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It so funny

undone anchor
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Like Tessa charm

undone anchor
acoustic epoch
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oh ok

analog hawk
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Yeah

acoustic epoch
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thanks

analog hawk
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Watching it so nice I can never do

undone anchor
# analog hawk Yeah

The reason I say that it's because it got patched up around January 👍👍😂

analog hawk
undone anchor
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Can't do it anymore

analog hawk
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oh

undone anchor
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It was one of the hardest combos, called heavenstep

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They removed it when they reworked matari

analog hawk
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ya I watched a tutorial for that

undone anchor
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Cuz people were abusing it

analog hawk
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If u get hit by it Oml

undone anchor
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(this specific one for removed even before January)

undone anchor
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Or hope they mess up

analog hawk
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Ya

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It’s so satisfying watching them hit it

undone anchor
undone anchor
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i learned the game against a person that was using that 24/7 in our custom rooms 😆

analog hawk
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I think it’s the 2nd one

analog hawk
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Ya

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I get ptsd playing the game already

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When I play casual with my friends and I meet those top hero title ppl that beat my butt

undone anchor
analog hawk
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they rlly good

undone anchor
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Super scary, but some have a really basic understanding of the game

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Ya

undone anchor
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Most ain't 👍👍

analog hawk
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Its scary playing and then the banner pops up

undone anchor
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It's just for show

undone anchor
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The end is just two jump attacks

rich talon
analog hawk
analog hawk
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I’m real game so hard to hit

undone anchor
analog hawk
undone anchor
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You will automatically start to understand better where to position yourself and also how to fight neutral 👍Kylin_hearty

analog hawk
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I will keep practicing until I become unrivaled asura !!ZipingYin_GiftFlowers ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
wary escarp
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Just remember to apply that practice once in awhile

analog hawk
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Oh

undone anchor
analog hawk
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uh

undone anchor
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(not sure the nirvana one is fully correct, but it's smth similar)

analog hawk
undone anchor
analog hawk
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Yes coach

wary escarp
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200 hours of practice but 0 hours of practical application and you will still be panicking

analog hawk
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What’s the best way to practice

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Solo ?

wary escarp
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So remember to using the things you learned in real fight if you really want to improve

undone anchor
wary escarp
analog hawk
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What’s neutral

wary escarp
analog hawk
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Yeah

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Hit them first heh

wary escarp
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Neutral is the back and forth you playing with your opponent to reach that point

analog hawk
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Oh

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That

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Negotiation thingy

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I watched a yt video about it

wary escarp
undone anchor
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Negotiation simply is a stage in the fight where both people are trying to get initiative

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Don't consider it that constructed and rigid 🤔😂👍

analog hawk
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Guh

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My Brian

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Brain

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Ok

undone anchor
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Hi*

analog hawk
undone anchor
wary escarp
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Yeah, learning combos will be come meaningless if you never win neutral

analog hawk
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Don’t let me catch u in my games eldranick before I heaven step u

undone anchor
undone anchor
wary escarp
analog hawk
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don’t make me fly to eu

undone anchor
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And can't play ATM because of my inability to sit for too long

analog hawk
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Where custom

undone anchor
analog hawk
undone anchor
analog hawk
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I’ll be the worlds best

undone anchor
wary escarp
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Not the first time I heard this, still, good luck

analog hawk
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I’m the real deal bebu_Hum_proud

wary escarp
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alright, just don't let me read you Matari_Laugh

analog hawk
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Are u eu too vang

rich talon
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Guys is there a tutorial out there, where they show like a grapple combo

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But instead to grapple on the ground, grapple the enemy in the air after the uppercut, then dash backwards and doing an uppercut again?

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Idk i see people doing it in Highlights but when i try that, my motion isn’t smooth like this at all.

undone anchor
rich talon
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And most of the time i got stuck in the ground Bebu_wow

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Isn’t that heavenstep

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Wee I knew that

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I’m so pro

wary escarp
rich talon
undone anchor
analog hawk
undone anchor
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Either they were on a slope or it was an old one

wary escarp
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That or Tarka Ji's V is at play

analog hawk
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Or else I would’ve beat ur butt too heh ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

buoyant bridge
wary escarp
analog hawk
wary escarp
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I'm never a good fighter

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Just a good reader

undone anchor
undone anchor
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I got an average skill level for ranked

analog hawk
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Give me a 10 second head start and u guys all donezo

undone anchor
buoyant bridge
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Against combonicks and daggervang

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Is crazy

undone anchor
analog hawk
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is that not enough

undone anchor
analog hawk
wary escarp
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promise to not fight back for 10s

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Yes

wary escarp
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But I don't promise to stand still

buoyant bridge
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😭😭

analog hawk
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No

analog hawk
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No moving

undone anchor
buoyant bridge
analog hawk
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Not me tho

undone anchor
analog hawk
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10 sec head start

undone anchor
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And even there it's hard

buoyant bridge
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Sure

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With gold weapons

analog hawk
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And u get gray armor and weapon

buoyant bridge
wary escarp
undone anchor
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Same thing as heavenstep and that's the sole version that remained aside the LS one

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Only reason they hit it is the slope as vàng said 👍

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And even there it was super close

undone anchor
analog hawk
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No

rich talon
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Alr i see bebu_Inthebushes

analog hawk
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Gold armor and weapon and all them jades

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No actually

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Give me that red longsword

undone anchor
wary escarp
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and tbh, it is more there to flex since the uppercut only last 3 times, the focus at the end whiff-ed

buoyant bridge
analog hawk
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I’m not cheating

undone anchor
buoyant bridge
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Yeahh

wary escarp
analog hawk
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No ultra

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Ults

wary escarp
analog hawk
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This is a battle of pure skill

buoyant bridge
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I see

analog hawk
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No ults allowed

buoyant bridge
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What!?

analog hawk
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Also I get to have 2 lifelines

wary escarp
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Sure, 3 bans + gold armor + grey weapon should be fine

analog hawk
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I have a question

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Actually

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When my friend was playing in the thingy

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Sm1 like did longsword

undone anchor
analog hawk
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V and dash repeatedly and he said he couldn’t dash out of it

undone anchor
analog hawk
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That’s so sad

wary escarp
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Songbird is laggy as hell

undone anchor
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Either that, they were spam dodging which is easy to catch or , they were having a too big fos difference and they got frame trapped (rare)

undone anchor
wary escarp
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Also knowing how to deal with lag is important

undone anchor
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That thing has its own physics

analog hawk
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He was in songbird

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Ur so smart vang

buoyant bridge
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Fr

wary escarp
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There is a stagger gauge (NOT GREEN FOCUS/DISENGAGE) build up everytime you hit after you get staggered

analog hawk
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What is green focus

wary escarp
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the more it builds up, the less stagger you have each time

analog hawk
undone anchor
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Mechanic for quick match and showdown

analog hawk
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Huh

undone anchor
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When stagger meter is full, you can do a dodge out of a combo

buoyant bridge
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Please bring green focus to ranked

analog hawk
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Oh

analog hawk
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Or else I won’t be able to see those beautiful clips

undone anchor
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So that we can finally use those anti disengage combos that oneshot

buoyant bridge
buoyant bridge
analog hawk
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Show me some

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Frfr

undone anchor
analog hawk
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Please do

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I watch this one guy

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zay

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His combo so nice

undone anchor
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He is super good, yeah 👍

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Long notes also does good combo montages

pearl stump
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You just triggered some people

rich talon
undone anchor
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Opop

rich talon
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Finally i know a bit of what i am doing Bebu_wow

rich talon
undone anchor
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U get t this!

rich talon
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I hope so. If i dont troll ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

analog hawk
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And he also the one I learned heavenstep from

undone anchor
analog hawk
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i thought no one knew them cuz they have so little subs

undone anchor
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They are well known

analog hawk
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i dont see sm naraka content on yt

undone anchor
analog hawk
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so u can do it

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and ill watch

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heh

undone anchor
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Younfind a loot on douyin afaik, since it's a mostly eastern based game

undone anchor
analog hawk
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its ok combonicks

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u got it

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i believe

undone anchor
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Don't let Sam brainwash you 😂😂

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I love combos, but I can't do a lot of them due to the fact that I got a laptop to play with 🤔😂😂😂

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Can't get past 100 FPS

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Hence a lot of things I can't do 🤔😂🤷🏻‍♂️

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There are better people to do combo tutorials, like Takao for example 👍

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I can help guide if needed since what I got is the theoretical knowledge 👍

undone anchor
# analog hawk u got it

(also I got a lot of stuff going on, not sure I could handle doing that on the side 🤔😅😂)

analog hawk
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its ok

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maybe if u get on a pc u would beat my butt

undone anchor
undone anchor
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Yessir

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Takao 🐐

rich talon
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I've watched his 211 Vid probably 200 times to get that in my head Bebu_pizza

analog hawk
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whats his channel

rich talon
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Idk if he has a Channel actually. But he pinned Messages here ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

analog hawk
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oh

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i have a question question

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like when i CV sm1 sometimes they go too close and i miss my follow up hits when they are still falling

rich talon
agile tree
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for katana, for horizontal attack spamming, is it better to execute the first 3 horizontal attacks + crouch + rinse repeat. Or is it better to do the first 3 horizontal attacks + tap shift then rinse repeat?

viscid kelp
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I don't know why my recording framerate is cooked, OBS has been doing whatever it wants these days

rich talon
analog hawk
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so pro

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do more magic man

undone anchor
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Still, try starting with the vertical instead of doing the crouch horizontal before the actual carousel

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To start with it can be useful, since it's quicker

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Oh, nvm, Takao got to it faster 👍😂😂🫡

analog hawk
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🥺

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combonicks how much better is it to grapple bump with the floor them compared to grappling onto them

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cuz i seeing alot of ppl combo by grappling on them instead of floor

undone anchor
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On the body is just better when you ain't sure about the terrain

analog hawk
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Ah I see

undone anchor
analog hawk
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I’ll practice body one then

analog hawk
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On their way one u gotta hit them

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Ykyk

undone anchor
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It's not really a combo

analog hawk
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I see one guy do it and it was so impressive

wary escarp
analog hawk
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What netcode

undone anchor
undone anchor
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There are harder things u can do with lyam

analog hawk
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Ur js pro

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🙄

undone anchor
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At all

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I'm average

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At best

analog hawk
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If ur average I’m so cooked

undone anchor
analog hawk
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I thought that was pretty impressive

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And u can do combos so smoothly

undone anchor
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But as said yesterday I still can't do a lot due to my limited frame rate 🤔👍

analog hawk
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I’m on red note and douyin binging combos

undone anchor
analog hawk
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The lyam Liu I thought was crazy

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I think these are old cuz they heavenstep a lot

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Honestly my fav guy is this dude that shouts all his moves before he does it

rich talon
undone anchor
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Many people here know better than me 👍 Kylin_hearty

rich talon