#πŸ”±β”ƒweapons-combat

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undone anchor
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need to be way faster on the dodge and swap

analog oxide
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now i hit nothing kek

undone anchor
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the dodge should be nearly invisible

undone anchor
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it's needed πŸ˜†

rich talon
undone anchor
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it's a double swap

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you can do as i did by removing the weapon and reequipping it also

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it 's the same thing

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just different button to swap

rich talon
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ahh ok

undone anchor
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you basically want to put yourself in a position where you can start holding the focus attack midair

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this is why you double swap

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first swap animation is done during the uppercut animation, then you dash to reset the stance and swap mid dash while starting to hold as soon as possible

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this way you are still mid air when you start to hold the focus and can barely fit in a 1.0 charge

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(sounds super complicated but it's just a matter of timing)

rich talon
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My hands are way too slow for that bebu_nom_what

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Hell no thats way to complicated for me tarka_angry_angy

analog oxide
meager trail
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never

analog oxide
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3k dmg without aim assist

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at least 19k with aim assist 😦

undone anchor
rich talon
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Bei uns eben so viel Regen auf einmal. Also viel zu viel

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Hab trotzdem alle Fenster aufgeballert bebu_nom_what

upbeat wagon
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Dasselbe hier. Erstmal Durchzug

wary escarp
open swan
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new player here

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trying to learn to grapple combo rn using catana but whenever i bump the bot in training it doesnt give me enough time to get off a horizontal charge attack

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just wondering if this is a common mistake or what im doing wrong. would like clip but i dont hink i can

undone anchor
wary escarp
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Outside of that, low fps and high ping also cause failed grapple attemp

rich talon
# undone anchor

What am i supposed to click all at my Keyboard there? My Fingers literally get a knot bebu_nom_what

undone anchor
rich talon
# undone anchor

And may i ask you, what ur Graphic Settings are? Idk your Game looks so much cleaner than mine ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
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It's as bad of a graphic you can have in naraka πŸ€”πŸ˜‚

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To maximize FPS from my wooden pc

rich talon
rich talon
undone anchor
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Depends

rich talon
undone anchor
viscid kelp
rich talon
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I go into Training then and rewatch it like 500 times ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

viscid kelp
meager trail
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i can never buffer the 1st swap

undone anchor
rich talon
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Idk why but i cant have my Middlefinger on my Scroll Wheel. Im wayyy to dumb for that to input all bebu_nom_what

viscid kelp
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You can try rmb focus first

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it's easier because you can just press c+rmb to uppercut and keep rmb held

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lmb is generally harder

rich talon
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True... I go try it. ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

undone anchor
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Dodge then re equip the weapon

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Also you can dodge without holding any direction, it works the same

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Re equip the weapon and start holding focus immediately (when you still are in the air)

rich talon
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So much Inputs Kurumi_Scared

undone anchor
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It is harder than it looks πŸ‘πŸ‘

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But yeah, on paper is a lot

rich talon
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hmm idk why but the Game doesnt let me dodge then

undone anchor
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Try double tapping it, for me it's more consistent

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It's a matter of just getting the right timing there

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It's a relatively small window

rich talon
rich talon
undone anchor
rich talon
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:(

undone anchor
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I'll check from pc in a while. πŸ‘πŸ‘

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It's a mobile disc problem

brave wasp
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lol i cant get the timing down at all

outer sky
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hi

native gale
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✨~ I Saw The First One & Your Pretty Good✨

wary escarp
undone anchor
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πŸ‘

rich talon
ionic bluff
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can i carousel into that

undone anchor
ionic bluff
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alrighty

viscid kelp
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Took me a second to figure out how
Essentially I just delay my RMB after the 2nd grapple bump a bit by keeping it held for a split second, rather than tapping it and letting go right away

ionic bluff
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thanks ill try it out

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hehehe got it thanks

viscid kelp
hushed lodge
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so cool

analog oxide
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how did he does the uppercut after grabbling?

undone anchor
analog oxide
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when i do it only deals dmg but never knock up

analog oxide
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he uppercut > grabble > uppercut

undone anchor
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it's the same as the grapple into focus attack, just you uppercut instead πŸ‘

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a hint could be to grapple a bit further than you think and keep you hands off the keyboard for the whole combo

analog oxide
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one sec i will take video, nvidia driver is updating

analog oxide
meager trail
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you're way too slow on 2nd uppercut

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input uppercut as soon as your character grapple bumped onto target

analog oxide
meager trail
analog oxide
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wow you crouch so fast

rich talon
meager trail
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stagger metter

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get hit by staggers builds your stagger metter, when it's full (turned green) you can escape combos by pressing jump, your character will do a backflip which act as a combo breaker
this mechanic is only available in quickmatch

rich talon
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Guess i need to rewatch Takao's Vid another 50 times Chiovo_Notes

undone anchor
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It's a matter of getting that one

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Try double tapping the dash after the first swap instead of simply tapping once

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For me it works better

rich talon
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Hmm. Ive tried that. But then i go everywhere but not like i need to :o

undone anchor
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Hold the second tap u do πŸ€”

meager trail
rich talon
ionic bluff
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any tips on getting this consistently

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took me days

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until i got this

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this seems so hard for no reason

undone anchor
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I spent around 20 hours to get it consistently

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How many FPS u got?

ionic bluff
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around 120

undone anchor
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Then it should be fine

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U are doing the things correctly, it's just a matter of getting the dash timing πŸ‘

ionic bluff
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oke

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thankss

rich talon
ionic bluff
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please

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can someone test this

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i wanna know if its doable

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i had combat mode off

undone anchor
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But I reckon that the enemy stays too much on the ground after the second grapple.

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So most likely not true

viscid kelp
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I don't think it'll work simply because they nerfed [grapple low bump -> fist rmb] so it no longer confirms another grapple

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necessary because otherwise that would be an infinite

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which it was for a while Hmm

undone anchor
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πŸ‘

cyan falcon
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dont have time to play as much but, still practice. why are people some people so crazy about this combo again?

undone anchor
rich talon
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Finally Kurumi_Scary

upbeat wagon
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Congrats. I've failed miserably for hours again xD

rich talon
upbeat wagon
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Nah dude. You put in hours id assume

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Now you just gotta get that in a match to feel spectacular

rich talon
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Forget everything

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Solos is Crashout Mode for me

upbeat wagon
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Dude I've been playing ranked duos only

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I'm like 5points away from empyrean

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And now I've played solos. And silver in solos feels like solar/empyrean in duos

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I still get some game in. But I feel like punching bag that gets lucky and kills the user

rich talon
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dont play duos anymore. i know 2 friends, that started the Game 2 weeks ago and all other quitted Chiovo_Fish

upbeat wagon
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I only got one Mate (the other one always gets us on the game then only plays like 2d and leaves for a year). That mate is not that active. Nor is he that good tbh xD but it's fun

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It's just that duos us not consistent

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Solos is always challenging

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Duos is a coin flip

rich talon
upbeat wagon
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Didn't have to call me out like that bebu_nom_what

rich talon
upbeat wagon
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That exactly how Id say it xD trios is a pure clusterfuc*

rich talon
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imagine squads :c

upbeat wagon
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Ou God

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No thx

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Quadro control comp

rich talon
elfin rose
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hello

late robin
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hello

analog oxide
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I still cant do this 😭

undone anchor
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You are grappling too far

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The bounce is not working because of that

analog oxide
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if i grabble close i miss 😭

meager trail
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grapple position is fine, you're still slow on your 2nd uppercut
also try to keep your camera stable, don't wiggle it too much

analog oxide
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ASDASDASD I managed once!

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😱

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i dont know how tho

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been doing this for 3 hours

meager trail
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training paid off

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when 2nd uppercut hits, hold W when input lmb so your character won't turn

undone anchor
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First try in the video was delayed

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πŸ‘πŸ‘

analog oxide
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almostt!!!

undone anchor
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Keep it up, you are close!!!

solemn maple
cosmic bloom
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Hi, is there a way to improve this combo?

wary escarp
undone anchor
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You might want to check this out if u are looking for Kylin combos ideas πŸ€”πŸ‘πŸ‘

glossy violet
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a

solemn maple
undone anchor
solemn maple
undone anchor
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Somewhat, but it's minimal

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Grapple glyphs u take usually just to get longer range

solemn maple
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i think the best way is to buy a new pc πŸ˜‚

undone anchor
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But I can make it work, it just gets harder πŸ‘

solemn maple
undone anchor
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Due to fps mostly

solemn maple
frigid mortar
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hello

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is it possible to get instaly full armor, health and ultimate after you just used it and you are at 1hp?

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cause it happend on an enemy last match and im genially conserned

meager trail
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it's possible

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if they or their teammate got beasts power

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it will instantly heals them to full and gives 100% rage

frigid mortar
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damn

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how do you get that?

meager trail
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capture sunwing spiritwell

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or win yang

frigid mortar
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ok

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thanks

icy wind
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is there any trick to switch to range weapon faster?

undone anchor
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by scrolling up a bit you should be able to find it Kylin_hearty

lusty cosmos
icy wind
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i kept doing move > c + switch to range

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i kept getting stuck

lusty cosmos
icy wind
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hmm just felt like the switching to range didn make a difference

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compared to just switching normally

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is aight, i will try c + switch then move

lusty cosmos
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It's just to cancel your animation if you are in one

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If you aren't in one then no need to cancel

icy wind
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ah ok

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got it

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i kept doing it from stand still position

cosmic bloom
undone anchor
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Nop there is none as far as I knw

meager trail
# cosmic bloom thank you, could yo help me with another thing? Is there an up to date guide on ...

https://youtu.be/uflXYwRdNhQ
rustam just made one a week ago

A full Takeda combo showcase ranked by difficulty, from beginner friendly to high execution confirms. No commentary, just clean combos.
Perfect for anyone looking to level up their Takeda game.

πŸ“Ί Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/rustamthebest

β–Ά Play video
undone anchor
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And once again I'm proved wrong

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Ty Tabbie πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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I had missed that one

meager trail
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though after few glances i reckon alot of the combos he did in the vid can only be done with ridiculously good fps/ping tho

cosmic bloom
meager trail
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idk lmfao

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likely not

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70-80 ping is way too high

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for most of complex combos in this game in general

cosmic bloom
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that's sad, then I'll hope that new server nods are added for my region in next season

undone anchor
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Over 50 ping it's most likely that hard combos are not guaranteed

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150 FPS is good unless you are trying things like dual halberds heaven step πŸ˜‚πŸ€”πŸ‘

analog oxide
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why does my 3rd hit always miss?=

meager trail
undone anchor
analog oxide
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now i notice dmg dealth as well! thank you, it just didnt stagger i guess

undone anchor
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Np πŸ‘πŸ‘

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No idea where the stagger goes tho

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Prolly smth to do with how close you are to the enemy?

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Not sure

analog oxide
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does stun prevent knockback?

meager trail
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yeah stun prevent displacement

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except for tianhai grab ig

analog oxide
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but he stil lget pushes back a little bit first 2 hit

meager trail
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guess it doesn't prevent all of them

analog oxide
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thats nice to know!

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we use valda ulti + viper then combo them with pole sword

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now i know knockup wont accidently mess the combo

meager trail
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yea even feria cannon shots won't blast them away

analog oxide
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i wonder what weapon is best to use after they get stun

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to deal as much dmg as possible

meager trail
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ehh theoretically speaking if it's only you then you can just blue them and start a combo on them at the end of the stun

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but in team modes probably just gs/ps blues lol

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imagine 16% attk gold gs 3rd stage aerial rend

rich talon
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Hi Guys ZipingYin_GiftFlowers Quick Question. Are the 211 Timings change from weapon to weapon, or are they all the same?

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Cause with Longsword i can pull them decent, but with Katana i cant even hit 1 in 100 attempts Lannie_cutie_nom

undone anchor
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Noooo don't fall that low my friend 😱😱😱

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Save your soul

undone anchor
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But overall it's the same after the first swap

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So, considering that that first swap u preinput during the uppercut itself, it should be pretty much the same for all of them

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Focus dimensions and directions also are a factor tho

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Like Heng sword vertical focus is easier to hit compared to a longsword vertical one

rich talon
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Damn

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So much Kurumi_Helpmeout

undone anchor
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If you are precise with the inputs it's basically the same

undone anchor
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πŸ‘πŸ‘

rich talon
analog oxide
fading pagoda
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dude no matter how high i bounce the grapple shot, even if i charge the vf when i shoot the grapple so it automatically goes off the second my feet touch the ground, the bot is always rolling out of it, like no matter what im a millisecond late or something.

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is it because my ping is a 65-75 average?

meager trail
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basic grapple combo is doable even on 100 ping

left pasture
# analog oxide

i just notice that this combo only doable if i dont capped the fps to 120 its there any alternate way to do its beside uncapped my fps and turn my room into a toaster and 211 uppercut

analog oxide
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my CPU is too bad, i cannot get over 100 fps in real match, a stable 80 fps is the best

left pasture
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i can but still cant do its within 120 fps

analog oxide
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i can do it consistence now in practice but not real match, the important thing for me is distance when doing uppercut and distance of grabbler

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not too close not too far, as well as counch timing

left pasture
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i just listen for the body hitting enemy sound before couch or you can just spam its after the sound

undone anchor
cyan falcon
onyx loomBOT
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πŸŽ‰ | Ms.Fox leveled up!

undone anchor
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Catch and slam

cyan falcon
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Too easy and not enough _ Fear_ Shikari

undone anchor
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Fair πŸ€”πŸ€”

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We need smth that builds up fear as it closes by and you are stunned

cyan falcon
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Exactly. We just want folks to put their controller down and look at the screen like this

undone anchor
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πŸ€”πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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Zai?

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Nah

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Any other stun?

rich talon
viscid storm
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What would cause heaventstep to be inconsistent? Sometimes it works fine, other times my character will start charging blue focus after a small delay?

undone anchor
viscid storm
undone anchor
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Then just a body grapple πŸ€”πŸ‘?

viscid storm
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what is heavenstep ?

undone anchor
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U would slide uppercut in not reset with grapple till they were dead

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It was the advanced combo that separated good combo people from bad ones

viscid storm
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I c

undone anchor
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Super tight and hard

viscid storm
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so what causes my body grapple to be inconsistent?

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or rather what would cause me to not charge blue instantly after the hit randomly

undone anchor
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Or also not preinputting the gold during the grapple animation

viscid storm
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gold?

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both the grapple and the blue are buffered

undone anchor
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Focus**

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My auto correct is going crazy this morning, sry bout that πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™‚οΈπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

viscid storm
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So like, 3/4ths of the time, I can land the focus attack, and my hero does not move directionally at all in the air

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then 1/4th of the time, my character will move, (normally left because I hold A, but still forward if I dont use directional imputs)
so my character moves left, and starts charging the blue after dropping further to the ground

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I am holding vertical the entire time, and my grapple is 100% buffered before the uppercut animation finishes

undone anchor
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Sounds weird, to hink you can send a clip?

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It can also be a bump issue

viscid storm
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In this clip there might even be a slight amount of doubt if the grapple is buffered

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but after sending, just now, I tested and made sure that this still happens even when the grapple is 110% buffered

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When I do not press A, I do move slightly less, but my character still goes forward a bit more, and charges blue later

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.
of course this still only happens like 1/4th of the time or so

undone anchor
fast viper
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@undone anchor bro can players green focus now? Finally learned the tarka infinite but the bots in training do the green focus on like the 5th uppercut

undone anchor
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It's been there for ages

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Just pick the "no disengage option"

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(green focus exists on pve and quick matches ATM, does not seem it will come to ranked)

fast viper
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Im using the hard training bot to test it

fast viper
undone anchor
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Yep

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Until you touch the ground or the enemy messes up

fast viper
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Its unfair as the heaven steps, they gotta nerf Tarka

viscid kelp
# viscid storm

This is a netcode interaction more prevalent on higher ping
Try grappling the ground instead of the enemy

undone anchor
wary escarp
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oh yeah nvm

viscid kelp
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Ctrl tech never helped with aerial grapples on high ping in my experience
Or at least it didn't make it fully consistent

wary escarp
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It is just more consistent than A for me, but like you said, never fully consistent so ground instead Matari_Laugh

fast viper
undone anchor
analog oxide
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in real match somehow people always dodge the F ability

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i need to be faster

wary escarp
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they just need to hold a direction and the F goes into abyss

undone anchor
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the knockback on verticla hit gives you just enough time

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also u need to start practicing with an active bot πŸ€”

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in combo mode

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a deactivated one wont help much

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for timings

rich talon
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How are people able to load their Blue focus after they dash in the Air? Like for example when they shoot themselfes in the Sky in Yang Universe... bebu_nom_what

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Then they falling down but when they land on the ground, they can immediatly release thei focus attack Lannie_cutie_nom

lusty cosmos
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It's how you air walk as well

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So for example, either scale rush or grapple up, cancel that animation into a hold dodge, then cancel the dodge into a focus attack

fast viper
warm tangle
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Every time I open this chat I realize I know nothing lol. There’s so much tech in this game.

lusty cosmos
warm tangle
lusty cosmos
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Just watch a movement guide

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Lighthypernova has a good one

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So does treygo

warm tangle
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Will do DogThumbsUp

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Thanks

lusty cosmos
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Also feel free to sign up for dojo when i make the announcement if the time works for you. It's free training

warm tangle
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Been looking forward to joining, my past few weekends have been busy but I plan on it soon wholesomeface

analog oxide
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how do i counter 3 people focus slaping me one by one?

faint rapids
lusty cosmos
# analog oxide how do i counter 3 people focus slaping me one by one?

Not many options when you are 3v1. Best bet is to try to disengage, use dodges, ability, ultimate, to make space and stall as much as you can. If you get lucky you will get away or a 3rd party will give you an opening to escape. Your priority is to get your teammates back up and if you see a good third party opportunity you can go for it.

analog oxide
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i only have polesword

analog oxide
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i was trying to get revive for my teammate

lusty cosmos
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But you are pretty much helpless in 3v1 unless they mess up and you can get a couple big parries

analog oxide
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😭

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they use their abilities when im about to get my polesword charge release

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then continue slaping

lusty cosmos
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You can stone form their slaps ig

analog oxide
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wait you can stone form slap?

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how

lusty cosmos
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Second stage attacks will stoneform focus attacks

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So after a light you hold the second attack

analog oxide
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right click?

lusty cosmos
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Either left or right

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The first attack stoneforms lights, the second stoneforms focus, and the third stoneforms both

analog oxide
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they cant parry me back with slap right?

lusty cosmos
fleet sorrel
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If you need to fix Yoto ULT speed on controller. Adjust the top 2 sens low then up the boosts and apply 0.3 for it to register. Have great battles!! Ttyl.

wary escarp
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Ight, Yoto F1 cannot soft combo break

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F1 initiation doesn't had a focus state

undone anchor
wary escarp
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idk if it is an oversight or something, most of other F has a focus state when start up, even Takeda F2 turns into gold focus now

undone anchor
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State*

wary escarp
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Yep, most F either has blue, purple or gold focus state on initiate

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But Yoto F1 doesn't

lusty cosmos
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Intentional design I assume Yoto_fine

analog oxide
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Did yoto got rework?

lusty cosmos
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Having soft combo break then a hard combo breaker on 1 f may be too much

lusty cosmos
undone anchor
analog oxide
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Since when?

lusty cosmos
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The patch

analog oxide
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Well well well, time to but more gold for yoto outfit

undone anchor
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πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

left pasture
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any tips on winning neutral im usually start off a fight by hold checking but when its come the situation where 2 player hold checking i just hold dodge the blue focus but cant seen to punish them for missing a attack sometime they can just catch my dodge but i cant really do the same to them

undone anchor
left pasture
undone anchor
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Oh, I see

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The best thing to do is to try and vary your answer

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You are actively trying to guess what the enemy will do, but they are doing the same

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Try and confuse them

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Apply pressure, make them feel threatened

rich talon
left pasture
lusty cosmos
rich talon
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For that topic has anyone uploaded a YouTube Video or a Guide for that kind of Movement? Because I couldn’t find one yesterday bebu_nom_what

lusty cosmos
# rich talon For that topic has anyone uploaded a YouTube Video or a Guide for that kind of M...

At 9 min mark he talks about air walking. https://youtu.be/3ERpDpM4tck?si=UF_tYSTR_cug2WbZ

Timestamps:
Basic Movement 00:00
Types of Dodges 00:25
Rolling 00:41
Sliding 01:03
Focus Dash & Special Dashes 01:25
Scale Rush 03:14
Window Movement 06:24
Ceiling Movement 07:11
Grapple Movement 08:36
Air Walking 09:07
Tree Movement 09:37
Extra & Conclusion 10:50

β–Ά Play video
wary escarp
# left pasture any tips on winning neutral im usually start off a fight by hold checking but wh...

When it comes to situation like that, I usually do something randomly, like tap dash toward them, jump and make the focus knock me back or make them whiff their combo. For me, it is about gaining information about them while hiding my information, weird thing like that don't contribute much and will not allow you to win but allow you to get more information than your opponent. But tbh, each person usually develop their own style and how they handle situation when it comes to both hold checking

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Most blue focus cannot be punished for whiff since they can follow it up with the chain

left pasture
analog oxide
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how do i parry stone thingy from polesword in real fight?

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when i fight player they always do the focus thing during my light attack, but the bots always wait for me to finish

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like vs players my light attack animations isnt even finish when i get hit

wary escarp
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If they go into stoneform from your first attack, they can release it as soon as it finished.

glass fractal
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Yo guys is there a reason i can grapple combo ( bump into 1.0) with ex katana and hengsword but cant with dual blade or halberd😭 like tf i know damn well it's possible everyone is doing it

analog oxide
glass fractal
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No straight up just horizontal- uppercut - grapple - bump- release blue focus

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They always roll when im with dual blade like how can i 100% always miss but on katana or hensword it's so free

undone anchor
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So you got a different bump

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Dual blades and halberds are a bit more precise

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If you try on LS you will notice that it's event harder πŸ‘

left pasture
wary escarp
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Quote BinLaggin "You have to realized that a lot of highlight takes days, weeks or months to gather footage, it is nothing you can do left and right"

undone anchor
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But once you get it it's a feast

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(me farming practice tool bot for hours to get the clip of a hard combo I spent days learning) πŸ€”πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

ionic bluff
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am i just ass

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or getting trolled

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like

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the bot is too fast

ionic bluff
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man what

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whys the timing so strict

viscid kelp
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Feels oke to me
Just the usual antics of not reacting to reaching 1.0, but instead releasing off muscle memory

ionic bluff
viscid kelp
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You might be able to cancel the DB rmb sooner, but realistically it's simply untrue, esp against bot

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It just doesn't provide sufficient stagger

ionic bluff
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oke thanks

storm heron
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Guys, I have a question, is there any impediment to combos when I don't use the glyphs that improve the grappling hook?
Lately I've been working on my neutral hits and dodging more than using counters. I'm feeling a lack of stamina for fights.

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I don't know if I should use this full red path

wary escarp
undone anchor
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And also catching enemies

analog oxide
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i keep missing my grapple when i dont have the extra speed and distance glpyh

storm heron
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Do you have any tips for those who play at 120-150fps to avoid getting infinite when getting up? Because my biggest problem is that every time I get knocked down, I get up at the exact frame of the attack

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for example. I receive a grapple combo without a charged atk to finish me, as soon as I get up I get hit, without a chance to react

wary escarp
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That's not infinite, more of they catching you off your mistake

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From the ground you can wake up with holding a direction input to rolling, this will move you certain distance and give you i-frames while wake up but leave you vulnerable during a small amount of time after wake up. You can also wake up by holding focus, this is a bit more delayed but gain you back control right away

storm heron
wary escarp
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Some people tend to do the catching when people wake up. Noticing people doing it will help you prevent being caught in that situation

undone anchor
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i was playing around a bit with lannie, this is my new combo πŸ™‚ (pretty useless, but it looks cool, so it's worth Matari_Laugh )

warm tangle
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Which weapons are more valuable to learn? I know that only some can be swapped

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Looking to learn just a combo or two to get more DPS

analog oxide
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after slash he switch weapon

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also here he switch weapon after grapple in the air

lusty cosmos
lusty cosmos
wary escarp
cinder thorn
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thats neat

undone anchor
cinder thorn
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oh that's annoying, i guess you have to use two different heng/katana skins now

undone anchor
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For katana

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But maybe @viscid kelp can correct me on that πŸ€”πŸ‘πŸ‘

analog oxide
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how did i do with polesword?

undone anchor
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It's very well done πŸ‘πŸ‘

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U got that enemy panic parrying left and right and also decided the pace of the 1v1

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Well done πŸ‘πŸ‘

nova sierra
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What kinda enemy u finding eh

torpid trellis
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can someone explain to me how exactly does staff charge vertical work

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like what exactly is the hitbox on this thing

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cause it sure as hell isnt the staff itself

lusty cosmos
torpid trellis
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every single time it feels like whenever the attack is released, its just a fan-like static hitbox for anyone to parry

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doesnt matter to my opponents whether the staff itself is hitting them or not, as long as its not reached purple focus im getting deleted

lusty cosmos
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You can either release it yourself or set the bot to as a custom action

torpid trellis
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i mean i believe you, its just that im still left clueless whether the design is accurate and its another naraka classic with pings, delays, desyncs and whatever else, or its actually programmed for the weapon model itself not to matter

lusty cosmos
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Thing is, with dodge parry you can parry a wider range, so the parry can reach behind you

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And if you get jump parried it can also work even if they are behind you

undone anchor
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Also if you parry while staying still it parries behind you

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Cuz of the "recently" added back parry

dim abyss
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you can think of it like that

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i think of it like that for parry, i don't follow the staff, i just follow the timing for the parry that i memorized, and you can parry it from front, from back ,or from side

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it's a very risky move to do because it's so easy to parry on the 2nd hit, but 3rd hit is purple so that's the tradeoff

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it hits both in front and behind and with shorter range on the sides on all 3 hits

torpid trellis
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im pretty sure i tried multiple times to parry it like that myself and i never know if im just getting shafted and it actually is the staff that matters, or i never get the jump parry range right

dim abyss
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just about timing

dim abyss
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u can also dodge parry

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u can iframe the first hit and parry 2nd

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with a hold dodge

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it has short enough recovery for you to parry multi-hit attacks on time after the dodge

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it works on heng vertical focus, fan focus, nunchucks horizontal, polesword horizontal etc.

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you can hold dodge 1st hit and parry 2nd hit

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so this is less prediction and much more consistent

torpid trellis
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hold dodge has any iframes at all?

dim abyss
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most of ur parries should be like this

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it has some

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hold dodge = less iframes, fast recovery
tap dodge = more iframes, slower recovery

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get familiar with this

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and jump parry is used as like a magnetic parry

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it pulls you into focus attacks

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so in some situations where a standing parry wouldn't reach, a jump parry will reach and literally attack their focus attack with your parry if that makes sense

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prediction parry should be your last resort

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rely on punishment parries more

undone anchor
dim abyss
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i actually have a clip i sent eranicks lol

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i can show u that u can just run up to an enemy doing staff V focus and parry from the side

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and u can do this super consistently

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from the side, it feels like the parry range is much longer than the range from which you can be hit

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@torpid trellis

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im not sure how the hitbox itself works so i can't answer that, it would be very helpful to be able to turn them on visually in practice mode, but what i can tell u is with enough practice u get a feel for them and for timing as well

torpid trellis
analog oxide
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like predict where they will spawn

undone anchor
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run out of it

dim abyss
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it's random

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ur gambling every time u enter

ionic bluff
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just wanna share

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because why not

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for the 3 matari mains out there

wary escarp
analog hawk
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when ur fighting the bot in free practice is the time of it laying down the same was ina real match i feel like he e down for extra long

wary escarp
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The bot will roll out/dodge out as soon as it able to when you hitting it

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Else the bot sometimes just laying on the ground

analog hawk
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vang vang do yk how to make the bot not roll out of my focus after the grapple

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bump thingy

wary escarp
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Could be slow grapple or just timing for blue focus release

analog hawk
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i dont have a clipping software uh

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but like if it rolls out of my focus blue does it mean that it can counter?

wary escarp
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Not really, counter is slower from ground compare to roll, but you should try to actually land the combo

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@analog hawk can you join vc?

analog hawk
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i am landing the combo or i think i am its js it rolls out of my thing

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yeah i can

wary escarp
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You can stream through discord

analog hawk
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i no mic doe

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thats okay right 😭

wary escarp
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no problem

analog hawk
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can u see

wary escarp
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Yep, all good

analog hawk
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uhm

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yeah

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it rolls

wary escarp
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2 problems

analog hawk
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yes yes

wary escarp
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  1. Your grapple is too slow.
  2. You roll after bump
analog hawk
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oh

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how do i stop that

wary escarp
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First, grapple as soon as your character leave the ground. Second, hold focus + A button as your character throw out grapple

analog hawk
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uh

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okay okay

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i try

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thanks

wary escarp
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Also, you are using tap dodge to do attack - dodge - attack

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This will slow you down and might cause your combo to miss

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Try using hold dodge

analog hawk
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how do i do hold dodge

wary escarp
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Like it said, hold the dodge button

analog hawk
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ohh i get it

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so like

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when i doing the first slash

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i hold dodge righht

wary escarp
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yeah, hold it and your attack will be much faster

analog hawk
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okok

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thanks

wary escarp
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@analog hawk here is a little video to show tap dodge and hold dodge

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Tap dodge is long and evasive, a lot of i-frames (invulnerable time) yet you are vulnerable at the end of it. Hold dodge is shorter, almost has no i-frames but give you control right as it ends.

analog hawk
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ohhhh

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i understand

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i se i see

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thanks

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yaa i see

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it so much faster

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thanks again

analog hawk
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@wary escarp

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can u show me the grapple thing

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i cant seem to do it very fast

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😭

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he keeps rolling

wary escarp
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@analog hawk check the timing of my input

analog hawk
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😭

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i think im cooked

wary escarp
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You don't actually need to wait for the uppercut animation to come out to grapple

analog hawk
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okok ill keep practicing

wary escarp
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At the same time as your grapple throw out hold focus + A

wary escarp
analog hawk
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i been doing that but thankkss

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i hopefully get it down soon

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thanks vang

wary escarp
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No problem, if you need any further assistant, just ask, people are in here to help

analog oxide
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can't wait for new cpu, i somehow can't even play the game atm, kept getting like 60-70fps pepe_cry

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i think the current cpu got jealous when he heard i ordered new cpu and decide to stop working

undone anchor
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it's doable

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just not fantastic

wary escarp
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it returns me to my old times, 10fps and counting (down)

undone anchor
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ugh

analog oxide
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How you play with 60 fps 😭

undone anchor
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i dont combo

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full hold check and neutral

wary escarp
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And if you asked how I played with 10 fps, I don't I suffering and guessing as I play Matari_Laugh

analog oxide
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10fps or 250pings,

open moth
analog hawk
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im back at it practicing it and its hard

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😭

open moth
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Yea for me it got to a point where I just started doing alternative combos because I couldn't land the last hit 😭

analog hawk
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i think these oen is the best one

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cuz u get to hit them with the focus

open moth
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True

analog hawk
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i cant get it right

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like they always roll before i get the focus off

open moth
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Which is why I like dual blades bc it's easy to do focus after uppercut

analog hawk
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i think the thing is like u hold v while ur grappling

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but for soem reason it like does the air v instead

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😭

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so hard for the timing

open moth
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Might be an fps or ping issue?

analog hawk
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mayhaps

analog hawk
open moth
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Ty ty

wary escarp
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Like I said, hold while your character throwing the grapple, not after your character starts to move

dawn sand
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I need big help from a very very wise weapon person

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pretty please

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I'm currently uploading the vids but essentially when ever I try to do what I believe is a Heavenstep, I cannot get the focus attack to activate in the air

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I've seen it countless times and I have friends who succeed in doing it but nothing I do works

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I've tried holding nothing but focus, holding ctrl + A + focus, W + focus, D + focus + S + Focus, dodging as if I were doing 985, holding shift and everything else.

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I don't know what else I could possible do

analog hawk
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😭

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i think my timing is off

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but i understandd

wary escarp
dawn sand
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and I just don't get why I can't at the very least, get it by accident once or twice

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I've seen high level players get this interaction on purpose with less than 30 ping

wary escarp
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Netcode doing it stuffs, the ctrl + W tech did wonder in the past but it is just inconsistent now

dawn sand
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I can pull off every other techinque minus 985 consistently, I just don't get why this specific one is strange

wary escarp
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I am not well understand of this issue so this is as far as I can help you lol

dawn sand
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do you know where else I could possibly look for info?

wary escarp
dawn sand
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yipeee

outer cedar
# analog hawk but i understandd

The exact frame your upper connects you should grapple, and the moment your grapple is clicked you should already be clicking directional (A or D) + holding focus so you dont roll when you reach ground and focus is ready to go

wary escarp
undone anchor
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The grapple timing is very forgiving, a frame is way too little indeed πŸ€”

lusty cosmos
undone anchor
# dawn sand

DB one you are not holding during the grapple animation, so when it starts the charge u are already late

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Katana, as bin said, it's ms

wicked socket
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Off a heng sword parry attack can you do a horizontal first into a sliding uppercut or do you need to go straight into the slide

undone anchor
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The first part counts as stagger towards the stagger meter

wicked socket
undone anchor
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Any hit on an enemy, be it a parry, a normal hit, a skill,...

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Anything that staggers fills the stagger meter

wicked socket
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K makes sense

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There's some stuff which effects it less I don't really fully know how it works

undone anchor
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Slide uppercut is just too slow to be chained after 2 hots

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Hits*

wicked socket
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Makes sense

undone anchor
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U can do a normal uppercut tho after an horizontal πŸ‘πŸ€”

wicked socket
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Ik that

wicked socket
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bc you can do dragonslayer > first extension > uppercut

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Even tho that would add 2 to stagger

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Does it just have a lot of stagger lol

undone anchor
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Dragonslayer? The spear thrust?

wicked socket
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Yeah

wicked socket
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true combo but doesnt seem like it would be if every attack adds to stagger

undone anchor
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One sec, it's bugged, as always, and I can't see it from the phone πŸ€”

undone anchor
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Input wise

wicked socket
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perfect spear release > dragonslayer part 1 only > uppercut

undone anchor
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It is not true πŸ€”

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If u do the full twirl

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It is true only if you cancel after the first two hits, but this is due to the fact that the spear thrust is a stronger stagger

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Not all staggers are the same

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A perfect example would be Shayol f2, which even allows an uppercut from a heavy weapon (GS, PS)

wicked socket
wicked socket
dim abyss
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it's just tight timing

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because of low fps

dim abyss
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u can uppercut from it if u do it immediately

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it's what you should do if you are able to combo on your current terrain

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besides team modes where it's more beneficial to keep them stunlocked and stay in gold focus

dawn sand
onyx loomBOT
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πŸŽ‰ | MrStealYoSouls leveled up!

undone anchor
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(remember to use right click focus (vertical))

dawn sand
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It works when I do the normal grapple bump on the ground

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It jus doesn’t work when I do it from the air

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I know it sounds strange but I swear input wise, I’ve tried everything

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The guy who originally showed me the combo, I replicated everything and followed his instructions

undone anchor
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Air or ground is the same exact combo

dawn sand
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Exactly

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That’s what makes it so weird to me

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I can do literally do something like 211/985 (sometimes) which I feel like people would consider way harder

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This seems like a simple combo but something isn’t clicking when it comes to getting the focus to work midair

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for example at this time stamp, I would never ever be able to replicate this; seemingly, because I am unable to get a focus attack to register in the air post grapple bump

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but I can do stuff like dodging sideways in the air to do focus attacks post grapple attacks and scale rushes tho

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I hope it doesn't seem like I'm arguing, I'm just trying to convey that I'm extremely certain I'm following instructions when it comes to inputs

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and I really hope that ping doesn't 100% prevent this from being a possible technique by my

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I apologize if it seems like I'm beating a dead horse tho

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to all you guys being helpful

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<3 lupa_heart

analog hawk
rich talon
violet rivet
ionic bluff
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i see that this works for people online

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if they dont have combo breaker

undone anchor
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If it works it's only because of ms interactions

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Or them missing the window to dodge away

ionic bluff
ionic bluff
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i get hit by it sometimes in customs

undone anchor
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πŸ‘

ionic bluff
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which annoyed me

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☠️

undone anchor
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It can definitely be

wary escarp
compact merlin
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Hello πŸ™‚ Is there a Tier List for Weapons? i just find old ones. For now i like to play Katana/Spear πŸ˜„

undone anchor
undone anchor
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I was thinking more about neutral getup and people that wait and do nothing πŸ˜‚πŸ€”

wary escarp
viscid kelp
viscid kelp
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What ms do you have?

dawn sand
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80-95

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even with gear up

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iz a lil rough

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lemme double check real quick

viscid kelp
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Yeah that is rather high
The issue is that higher ping causes dodge and crouch swaps to execute a lot slower, because the cancel for some reason seems server validated

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Do you have a clip of the combo you're trying to execute with the 211/985

dawn sand
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oh no I'm not trying to do 211/985

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I've been trying to do a grapple bump combo but with aiming at the enemy directly rather than at the ground

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when I'm not streaming and im on gear up, rn im getting 77-86ms

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i did not know you could hear my keyboard in this lol

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im basically trying to recreate the technique shown at the timestamp @viscid kelp

viscid kelp
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The only way I can think of making this consistent on high ping is using some niche mechanics

As I mentioned, crouch/dodge swaps get slower with higher ping
However there is an interaction where if you jump, swap and hold lmb/rmb almost all at the same time, you can hold focus mid-air right away even on high ping

Then there is the fact that if you grapple something, you can swap weapons during the grapple

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Now if you do a pen-pineapple-apple-pen of those facts, you can air grapple the enemy, switch to fists as the grapple connects, then the very moment you bump you jump+swap+hold focus

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That's like thanos difficulty for a mechanic that should just work, but on high ping this is the only way I can think of making that kinda air grapple bump consistently lead into a focus

dawn sand
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thank you very much for the idea

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I will practice and see if I get some success and I'll get back to you on it

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thank you very very much

viscid kelp
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No problem eavTHUMB

torpid trellis
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nice

wicked socket
onyx loomBOT
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πŸŽ‰ | Yellowslotcar leveled up!
blank | Extra rewards were added for missing levels

wicked socket
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idk if this counts a character or weapon stuff

lusty cosmos
undone anchor
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This looks so good 😍😍😍

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WP!

wicked socket
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Thanks!

undone anchor
wicked socket
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The aerial dash jade is funny because it's really really good but it feels weird to use

undone anchor
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Yeah

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I never thought to do that jump horizontal to follow up

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It's super good πŸ€”πŸ‘

lusty cosmos
wicked socket
# lusty cosmos I always forget I have it lmao

LOL fair
I'm a heng sword main so like i very much pay attention to it
It completely changes your combo theory and also makes some weird hits much harder to confirm but off stable hits it gives you much better reward

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It can make combos off stuff like a temulch skill punish harder

undone anchor
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It does even better around that jade

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I've been testing it for a long while

wicked socket
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I already do secondary lyam LOL

undone anchor
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Kylin aswell is pretty fun in interacting with that one , in case

wicked socket
undone anchor
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Yep

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U could also fit a juggle in there technically, but I wouldn't be able to tell you the specific FPS requirement πŸ€”

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Like ground horizontal into vertical into focus

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For me it's super inconsistent, but I'm at really low FPS

wicked socket
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I run 120 fps

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Which is like where the game feels like it's actually Working LOL

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I think that they should stabilize it to working like how it does at 120 when they fix it

wicked socket
undone anchor
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Yep

wicked socket
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Getting a stage 1 isn't happening even at high fps LMAO

undone anchor
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Where you can do pretty much anything

wicked socket
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Right but I think some of the stuff at 200 is a bit too strong LOL

undone anchor
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It's easier than u think

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Just precise

undone anchor
wicked socket
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No I know it can happen I mean I don't think its ever true in this instance

wicked socket
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Fair idk

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Maybe I just haven't seen it

undone anchor
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I'll send a clip if I manage it , or if I find someone that did it πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ€”πŸ‘πŸ‘

wicked socket
# undone anchor Not really πŸ€”

They should definitely at least try to make it so 60 feels like 120. 120 feels like the game is working as intended, anything lower feels like the game just doesn't work

undone anchor
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And I feel what you mean

wicked socket
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LEL yeah

undone anchor
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But it's still playable πŸ˜‚

undone anchor
wicked socket
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Have you turned your graphics down

undone anchor
wicked socket
undone anchor
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I just don't have money to spend in a better machine

undone anchor
wicked socket
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Render scale will work wonders crank that shit as low as it goes

undone anchor
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To where I could still see the enemies well

undone anchor
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Dw, I spend my fair amount of time optimizing πŸ˜‚

wicked socket
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Yeah fair
It's just a shame fps issues exist I really hope 24e gets around to fixing them

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Or at the bare minimum

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Make bumps consistent on 60

wicked socket
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IK

undone anchor
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They said it's the project for next year, so as soon as aviable well see a big change

wicked socket
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Oh fuck yeah

undone anchor
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Cuz considered how the game is programmed it requires a while to change all

wicked socket
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Oh ofc

wicked socket
undone anchor
wicked socket
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Ah OK

undone anchor
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@lusty cosmos do you have it at hand? The Devs interview video they recently did πŸ€”

undone anchor
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Couldn't tell you the exact date

wicked socket
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But they didn't give any sort of date or more info there

undone anchor
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They don't have the specifics yet

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They saw they want to remove (not sure it was the word) the problems originated by different fps

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So they are working in that direction to fix them

undone anchor
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I'll check later to see if I can find it πŸ€”

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Don't remember where thi

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I just read and saved the info

torpid trellis
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Don't worry guys, high FPS doesn't fix skill issues apparently

burnt plume
torpid trellis
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Yeah well I've said somewhere else some time ago, but if playing at unlocked FPS and maintaining it over 240 with 40 ping feels the way it does, I don't want to know how shit it is with lower values

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But having that yourself still doesn't solve the issues

burnt plume
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helped me a bit, I was on a laptop before. I died to many times from it

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πŸ’”

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dropped 1600 on a PC because of it

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the game rage baited me into getting a better PC

torpid trellis
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At least you didn't buy gold for that money

burnt plume
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πŸ’”

torpid trellis
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Not home

burnt plume
#

rippppp

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I need someone to play with πŸ’”

analog oxide
analog oxide
torpid trellis
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im already like a second after the red flash

analog oxide
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fps dif,confirmed, fps to win

torpid trellis
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wdym 2 parry

analog oxide
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are you telling me your parry lasted for 2 seconds

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if not double parry

torpid trellis
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no, my opponent is like 90 ping

analog oxide
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if you have less ping and more fps you always win because Unity's netcode is shit

torpid trellis
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yeah i dont against this guy cause apparently i need to parry at least half a second before i get hit with focus

analog oxide
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still stick how quick you dash after parry

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thats like 1ms

torpid trellis
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i didnt expect that to connect

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so i just clicked dodge

analog oxide
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its insane, you can combo him more dmg than execute, assuming no combo breaker

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with how fast that happen

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godlike bebu_Cheer

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i would just leave my keyboard if you parry me like that

torpid trellis
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probably not due to the terrain, but i also dont think i know how so

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i still get hit way too many times in places i shouldnt get hit anyway

analog oxide
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get more fps and hz ZipingYin_GiftFlowers

torpid trellis
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4080 + 9800x3d, 360hz, im tired boss

analog oxide
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gift it to me

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get 5090 or better, turn off all uppscaling, dlss, frame generations, move close to naraka serverbebu_Cheer

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i just hide in bush

torpid trellis
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i guess better that than just scale rush spam

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quite a joke that a "fighting game" is so dominated by running away

lusty cosmos
undone anchor
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The strength is in being able to tell which fight u can take and when

torpid trellis
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I'll miraculously win neutral, leave the enemy on two hits, they can just get away no issue

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When I try to do the same, I'll either not stick to the wall for a scale rush, get grapple-stunned, or whatever else

undone anchor
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Ideally you can lock down an opponent no problem if you have that much advantage on them

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As for the not sticking to walls part, I'd recommend running a few times the speedrun in the fairy land penglai to get the hang of it

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It's a matter of practice to get that down