🔱┃weapons-combat

[compact island]

I think the latest xbox can

not sure either tho

[royal burrow]

If I can't I'll play with dagger

[compact island]

IMO dagger is a very tricky weapon to start with, spear is way easier for beginners

[royal burrow]

And I hope at some point I really start playing against players

I have 75h and played against players in only 2 matches

[compact island]

after gold you will find players, and the spike in difficulty will be rough

75 hours?

you should be like solar at least

you should be getting players

[royal burrow]

I didn't purchased the upgrade

[compact island]

no need

[royal burrow]

Till lvl 50 takes a bit

[compact island]

ahh

that, stuff

haha

yeah that part of the roads is not pleasant

I almost quit before reaching 50

so I can assure you after 50 its a different game

[royal burrow]

Lol

[compact island]

I told to myself if the game is the same after reaching 50 im just gona drop this

[royal burrow]

I wonder y they doesn't change this

[compact island]

I stoppped wondering their decisions, they are not very wise overall, try not to overthink it will only hurt

[royal burrow]

I'm almost there

But I'll try until plat

[compact island]

it does get better, BUT with that being said, I am not happy with the path the game is taking in general, so I cannot longer say it gets good

haha

but it does get better

that I can guarantee

[royal burrow]

I guess I'm too new to know y

[compact island]

yeah

you ll find out

[royal burrow]

Ty bro

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/sherlock-benedict-cumberbatch-hat-tip-greetings-smile-gif-4268618

[wary escarp]

Nope

The bump is really decent so that shouldn't be the problem from what I saw

[wicked socket]

They've said they're trying to so I really hope they can actually figure out a way to get everything to feel like 120

Higher fps getting some new stuff is annoying but fine since most doesn't matter but below 120 getting screwed is sad I rlly hope they can fix it

[compact island]

He said he was at 60 ps5, you guys really should just start with that question 100% of the time, it would have saved me ton of time

no one expect combos be FPS linked cuz is plain ridiculous to think of it nowadays

that's like an early game dev problem

and by early I mean EARLY like space invaders dynamic increased difficulty "Feature", haha

[wary escarp]

tbh, I just playing with less than 60fps during game so I never think that far

[naive plaza]

If you pay for the game you unlock ranked at level 20 which is much faster, pretty sure the upgrade is only $5 as well. Also since you’re on console to face real humans you’ll need to turn on crossplay, and turn off bot fill. Bot fill allows console players to spawn bot lobbies in ranked after a 2-3min queue iirc. PC doesn’t have a bot fill option so we wait in queue until there are enough real players to fight.

If you’re in NA Duos is the most popular game mode so you should be able to find real players in those lobbies at almost any time, trios is second, and solos is last for popularity. Solos is typically the first mode that queues die in.

[lusty cosmos]

Dojo signups are now open. Everyone is welcome #🏋┃dojo-coaching message

[wary stag]

Combos on console are extremely inconsistent

Input delay is crazy on consoles

Even on ps5 pro at 120fps its still hard

[jade gull]

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[robust pendant]

[buoyant bridge]

[visual osprey]

Damn it gabite

[jade gull]

[buoyant bridge]

NAH GABITE

SHOO

[visual osprey]

Yeah shoo

[buoyant bridge]

MY MOD POINTS

[jade gull]

Sam you have like -50

[buoyant bridge]

I am actually Number 1

[visual osprey]

How about me, am I good?

[past sage]

i even clicked the ban button and he still stole it smh

[jade gull]

lol mod warfare

[buoyant bridge]

Like

[jade gull]

Y’all savage

[buoyant bridge]

Who invited bro here

[jade gull]

And jumpy XD

[buoyant bridge]

Its on sight

[jade gull]

[spice sinew]

[jade gull]

Jaan you late

He’s already dead

[vast moon]

hello guys

[wide yoke]

Hi

Is there any weapon tier list ?

[undone anchor]

Pretty much all good, aside greatsword that works mostly only on tarka. Knives are insanely strong, Heng sword always good, staff strong, LS combo hence good, fan and dagger top tier for mouvement and decent for fight, ... 🤔👍

Pretty much each weapon has pros and cons 👍

But mostly they are balanced aside a few exceptions

[jade gull]

Nunnies left out in the rain

[undone anchor]

They were in the suspension points 🤔😂😂

[wise coral]

Is there any obvious mistakes I'm making in my failed attempts here?(I fail more than 50% easy) The times I am able to keep the bot in the air on the last "2" slash feels no different than when I fail. Or at this point is it just getting the inputs down to muscle memory in the correct timing ?

[ionic bluff]

how do i avoid getting completely destroyed in 3 ban, whats the key to get better in combat? Play more?

[undone anchor]

hold checking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59HE32pHqU&t=125s

this could be a good starting point for you

[ionic bluff]

thanks man :)

[undone anchor]

np

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/ksw073fnS_sB9irME?invite=cr-MSxPSVIsMTQ5NzU3NTA

thats what it looks like when i try to 211

can anyone help

[ionic bluff]

nvm got it

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kswpEWWULmzTE2-sa?invite=cr-MSxHZ1IsMTQ5NzU3NTA

[undone anchor]

U are just holding too late 👍

Wp in getting it 👍👍👍

[acoustic epoch]

any tip on fighting a 1v3?

I keep getting ganged up on

[ionic bluff]

dont get ganged up on :)

[naive plaza]

If you constantly find yourself in 1v3 situations it might be a positioning thing. Try to stay within 1-2 grapples of your teammates. If 3 people are on you and decide they want you dead it’s very hard to get away if you don’t have a combo breaker/or your ultimate available to try and survive.

Your best bet is to try and stall/stay alive and kite until your teammates can help you (or kite back towards them if possible)

If you ever need to run from a 3 stack you’ll want to look for terrain. Could be a cliff side or could be a city like Celestra. Somewhere where you can scale rush a bunch to try & run without losing all your stamina

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/ksKzGeE9DdGAwzzvL?invite=cr-MSxUUkUsMTQ5NzU3NTA

any tips on getting this consistently?

most of the time im too far away or i spin below the character

or this happens

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/ksKKxxb1x-RN_gm87?invite=cr-MSxlSUcsMTQ5NzU3NTA

[dim abyss]

@grim arch we should add this to the pins, there is no knives combo in there

[undone anchor]

you cannot win a 1v3 usually; no matter the skill level. best hint would be to work on your mouvement, like scalerushing,...

this can help you position better in this situation and eventually lose your enemies or create space to fight them one on one

[undone anchor]

hold w during the uppercut, try changing around the timing for the "w" key, it depdnds on a lot of factors

also holding a or d can help land that second vertical better

[viscid kelp]

Thanks for the reminder, I've updated the pinned basic combo video. It was outdated in like 4-5 places, since the devs decided to change up a bunch of combos

@grim arch Sorry for bothering again, you can unpin the knives vid now, since the basic combo one is updated

[grim arch]

Maybe add Description to it so people know what it is

[viscid kelp]

I just updated the version that is alr pinned

[grim arch]

Ahh did not know you can updated videos after sending them

[viscid kelp]

You can't really
I instead deleted the old embedded video, and linked the new one

Just providing a link makes it mildly more flexible, as long as the link is embeddable

[ionic bluff]

i‘ll look into that thanks :)

[viscid storm]

is grabble bump into focus not possible with high ping or low fps?

are most 211 combos doable with high ping or low fps?

[wise coral]

How high is your ping and how low is your fps?

I think general consensus is a minimum of 80+fps combos can work but are possibly inconsistent depending on the combo. 120 fps is better and past that is ofc extremely helpful but not required.

Ping wise I personally can get spikes into 80s ms and am "fine" to do combos but any higher and things may not always connect. That's at least what I've experienced but someone here may have tested specifically what ping combos can fail at.

[viscid storm]

I have ~86 ping most of the time, and in free range anyway my fps is normally above 150

but I buffer literally every input and I still can't consistently land a blue after a bump,
the only inconsistencies besides ping or fps would be my grapple aim and the release of the blue, but it seems unreasonably tight if those are the only issues since I literally can't see the microscopic differences

[meager trail]

would be easier for us to tell if you give us a clip of you failing the combo

[dim abyss]

video

[dim abyss]

low fps very hard because your attack animations are literally slower

with 86ms u can do it

i have friends who do it with higher ping

[meager trail]

yeah

[dim abyss]

i'd say 90+ fps for consistency

[meager trail]

combo are much more fps reliant than ping

[dim abyss]

at 50-60fps it's rough

legit at 50fps locked i can't do it

at 200 fps i do it with eyes closed

they need to fix this faster

[meager trail]

also do note that it's not just average fps that is important, ur 1% low aka the framerate consistency is also very important

[wise coral]

side note; Can a Certified Sweat™ tell me if I am rubberbanding on the makes or I am too slow on the fails btw?🙇‍♂️ I cant bloody decide if katana rmb into staff lmb is true. Seems like it shouldnt work since thats two hits before uppercut with a staff, but i can get it on the bot every time im fast.

[meager trail]

you can see the bot's dodge animation here

so it's a rubberband

[wise coral]

damn

[dim abyss]

smoooooth video

[meager trail]

but if you can rubberband the bot

then you can rubberband ppl too

can just go for it

[wise coral]

[meager trail]

untrue the sht out of it

[wise coral]

true I guess if they have no soft combo breaker it might work

tyty lel

[viscid storm]

what about 211

also why does my air horizontal throw enemies behind me?
it happens after nunchuck and staff uppercuts

[dim abyss]

i don't do 211 i can't help with it

but you don't need it anymore

you can now do grapple combo with staff and nunnies

vertical focus

[wise coral]

If youre holding W throughout the combo that could be the issue? Cant say for certain without seeing a clip tho.

[viscid storm]

no need for clip, I don't press any other inputs

my hero just visably turns around right at the last seconds before it hits, and it throws them behind

[wise coral]

well somethings going wrong input wise, if it was just a ping problem the bot would roll away before you hit them. Cant say for certain without seeing it though sorry.

[meager trail]

yeah you need to hold w

then ur character won't turn

[wise coral]

listen to tabbie I only know 211 a different method than the normal sheathe version

[meager trail]

no this one is different

it's just the distance between you and the target at the moment you input the attack

the same with ls carousel

some ppl doesn't need to hold w but some does

the thing is

with diff ping diff fps ur falling speed after an uppercut are different

so if you don't hold w and let the melee aim assist being ''free''

it'll judge ur position and distance to target

to determine if the target is in front of u or behind u, if it judged the target is behind u it'll turn ur char backward

by holding w you overwrite the melee aim assist

so you always hit forward, thus knocking target forward

[wise coral]

Nunnies and Staff specifically got changed in the past few patches to allow easier 211's and 211's at higher ping. It used to be stricter requirements ping wise. If you seem to be doing all what tabbie advised and it still isn't working, post a clip. Ooor you can try this method https://youtu.be/X_gKT_3DttQ?si=sLVoRmmH0HBvg_1G This is how I 211, doesn't need high fps/low ping however you always need 2 separate weapons or it wont work. Ideally tabbie's advice on the nomal method is better long term but if it wont hit no matter what maybe try this out

[compact island]

AKA "The wiggle"

https://tenor.com/view/scientist-science-im-a-scientist-gif-14090115

[meager trail]

😂 damn you remember the wiggle

[viscid storm]

so in order to 211, the inputs are

uppercut (never release vertical)
2
1
hold dodge/tap dodge

right?

I have two issues,
sometimes my weapon does not swap back? I think this is because I press 2>1 too fast? is it something else?
If I do swap weapons correctly, my dodge brings me forward instead of me standing still. what causes my dodge to work halfway?

[meager trail]

nah the inputs are: uppercut > hold and don't let go > 2 (or shealth) > dodge > 1 (or mouse scroll) > blue hold reachs 1st stage > release

the core mechanics are:

• pre-input blue hold
• use dodge to cancel 1st weapon swap animation
• use 2nd weapon swap to cancel dodge animation

[viscid storm]

did it xD

tyvm

now I have an issue where my dodge doesn't go off, my character will swap back to 1, but will stand afk only charging blue after a time (or sometimes the V buffer vanishes?), no stamina used

I somehow do it properly like 1/10 of my tries tho

[meager trail]

the most important thing about combos is timing

not too fast, not too slow

the timing must be right

so just keep practicing and you'll get used to it

[viscid storm]

I seem to have regressed as it is now 0 out of like 30

it is supposed to use stamina btw right?

[meager trail]

well it is an advance combo

yeah ofc

[bitter atlas]

guys if i cant find people to custom with

how would i go about getting more practice

[jade gull]

I wouldn’t suggest songbird because it’s a laggy mess but that or maybe hard bots or FT combat mode

[bitter atlas]

whats FT combat mode

you roll if u hold dodge twice right

if i wanna chain dodges i have to use two different ones

is that statement correct if so correct me plox ❤️

[jade gull]

Free training combat enables

[bitter atlas]

i kinda dont wanna practice against bots

[jade gull]

Songbird or join random rooms

[bitter atlas]

i feel like bots and humans have very diff ways to win... you can cheese the bots and the bots react to different things because they read ur inputs

im from sea so most of the rooms are in chinese characters 😢

i dont wanna grief peoples room if it means something else

thats why i asked sorry >.<

[jade gull]

🤷‍♂️

Go beat them up anyway

XD

[bitter atlas]

oh well was just wondering if u guys were practicing in another way XD

ahahahaha

but yea idk .. i feel little lsot cause not much resources to learn this game

and most of it is old idk which has been effected by changes and so forth

and then i become unsure if its correct

[jade gull]

I know the feeling I’m from N.A. ain’t no one teaching raka here XD

[bitter atlas]

rips

[naive plaza]

If you were NA I’d invite you to come do customs. STR does 0 ban customs pretty regularly and anyone is welcome to join

As for up to date info we just published a combo guide for basic + slightly more advanced combos (including flying knives) but idk if you’re looking for a combo guide or more focused on neutral play

[undone anchor]

Not really, if you want to chain 2 dodges you need to use the bump dodge tech 🤔👍

If u chain 2 dodges in a row, the second one is usually a roll

If u want 2 actual dodges 1 after the other you have to reset the animation kind of, which means going back to a neutral staye

State*

Either start repairing a weapon, healing, holding focus,... And then dash

It's going to perform a normal one

[lusty cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-stare-bruh-wat-what-gif-5160413390783376961

[jade gull]

Fine I’ll specify no one teaching console raka

[lusty cosmos]

This is wrong too

[jade gull]

Name one console coach here

[lusty cosmos]

2 of my na coaches are controller players

[jade gull]

Controller pc doesn’t count

Pure console coaches name one

[lusty cosmos]

Dav used to play on console

[jade gull]

Who tf is dav

[lusty cosmos]

@fleet sorrel go follow him

[wise coral]

For the life of me I can't figure out making this last hit true if anyone has advice. I cut into combo so video wouldn't be as long but; in the katana float 123 my last hit seemingly is true only if I do this weird camera shake? Same problem with katana 123 off a grapple with no "float". Am I being silly and sometimes I'm just too slow? Combo works on real people without them rolling away but to get it true on the bot the only thing I've been able to do is get funky with the camera? Is that tech somehow, moving camera for combos?

[meager trail]

moving camera for combo has always been a tech

[wise coral]

fr?

which ones have i been doing somthing wrong lol

[meager trail]

yeah, the db rmb follow up after vertical blue also require you to turn your camera at the right moment

else it will knock the target too far away for that follow up to connect

but they removed it i think, now you can't connect the rmb follow up anymore

[wise coral]

okok sweet thank you! wasn't sure if i should practice the camera movement or I was losing it

[meager trail]

no camera turn = target gets knocked back too far

[wise coral]

ahhh so thats how it works I always failed the follow up

Is there more well known ones with camera movement at this point?

or more of a niche thing

[meager trail]

tho you can also hold A during blue release

that will also make the target not getting knocked too far away

so you probably might wanna try holding A when releasing ur katana blue

instead of camera wiggle

see if it works

[meager trail]

tbh it's just a method that players came up to somehow ''fix'' the inconsistency of game mechanics

[wise coral]

ill try it out bc my "wiggle" has been super inconsistent lol

[meager trail]

i can't even get the target floats high/long enough for the charge attack on the katana combo lmfao

so i don't actually know what caused it

but i do know that camera movement does affect your combo, at least some of them

[gentle goblet]

What is it called, the mech where you can dash out of an uppercut so you don’t jump. I play on controller btw and I can’t figure it out. Is it only available to the katana?

[wary escarp]

There is no tech outside of Tarka's V that can do uppercut without jump, the best you can do is cancel the last portion of uppercut with grapple

Outside of that we have 211 combo that swap weapon mid air for the instant charge

[gentle goblet]

Thank you sm, also sliding V is patch too correct? There’s a lot idk so I’m scrolling through here lol

[wise coral]

I’ve been “cheating” as I learn it by starting with staff and then floating with katana. Feels like I have so much extra air time starting with staff vs katana but maybe that’s just bc I’ve been a staff main.

Today tho I discovered you don’t have to do the -hold w let go of w then hold again

Instead on the timing where you would let go of w, hold(maybe tap works too I’m still workshopping it) control to get the character in a walking state

I’m hitting the combo way more often now. I want to download the mouse/keyboard recorder to get a baseline of the correct input timings. But the holding control made it so much easier

reuploaded video it was low quality for some reason to me looks like starting with staff is a higher float,but maybe im tweakin. Either way it made the inputs less strict/easier to get on lock.

[viscid kelp]

Gravity in this game isn't consistent
Some knockups reach similar height, but the enemy falls slower during knockup 1 compared to knockup 2

Staff I don't think reaches crazy height, the enemy just falls in slow motion

But yeah control tech can help in some cases where you wanna hold W during the grapple bump

[rich talon]

How do you guys get the uppercut after the grapple? I’m way too dumb for that.

[undone anchor]

Do you have a clip of you trying? It's most likely a timing issue, but with seeing it we could prolly help a bit better

For context you want to press uppercut as soon as you bump

And i find it easier to hit if you grapple a bit further than what you usually do for normal grapple combos

It puts you more under the enemy

[rich talon]

Im at work rn, but when I get home I can send a clip in here ^^

[undone anchor]

👍👍

[rich talon]

Do I have to hold down a or s not to roll, cause I’ve watched a bunch of tutorials but they never touched a or s. Just C and they hit the uppercut. I just roll away :>

[undone anchor]

After the first uppercut pretty much take your hand off the movement keys

(ideally would be to not press them at all from the beginning, you usually can start holding w midway through the second uppercut)

[rich talon]

Alr thanks. I try ist later

[wanton niche]

where is the na server based

cuz i get 80 ping in cali

and was wondering how dependent hitting combos is on high ping

[viscid storm]

Is there any congeneric weapon skills worth using or any combos with them?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | thrm4l leveled up!
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[jade gull]

Katana heng has some decent combos with the skill and aerial Dash Jade

[dim abyss]

does it work from the front of the enemy too

i was wondering how to do this

[meager trail]

yea it does

[dim abyss]

thanks

[meager trail]

but iirc they delayed the moment you can do the follow up

so now it's not possible to connect the follow up anymore under normal circumstance

i think

[dim abyss]

ohh

okay

[rich talon]

here. i can't do even the crouch animation :c idk what i am doing wrong haha

bruv why is there no preview? :<

[viscid kelp]

Iowa
Keep forgetting, but it's either Des Moines or Council Bluffs (Omaha)

[viscid kelp]

High ping makes some combos harder and some not feasible

[wanton niche]

oh okay thanks

yeah it feels inconsistent sometimes i hit sometimes i drop my combos and i can’t tell if its skill issue or ping

[viscid kelp]

Could be either or neither
Naraka has a ton of variables due to the 3D nature of the game
Some combos work better if performed from certain directions, for example

[wanton niche]

would you also recommend no aim assist

[meager trail]

never turn that off

you can always overwrite melee aim assist by holding a directional key when releasing your attack

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/ktQoFVyo9og8tYG81?invite=cr-MSxROGosMTQ5NzU3NTA

someone teach me how to hit the third shot

☠️

[rich talon]

i cant even get the 2nd Uppercut in my Head

[meager trail]

if you keep doing it like this you won't even hit the 2nd vertical attack on people

[rich talon]

What am i doing wrong then? Guess im way too dumb for this Game :>

[meager trail]

katana vertical attack stagger duration is not enough to connect to a dodge into an attack or an uppercut

so you must use horizontal

H > hold dodge > H > uppercut

[rich talon]

alr thanks. Got it first try

[meager trail]

as for 2nd uppercut it's mostly about timing

more practice you should be able to pull it off

[rich talon]

thanks for that

[wise coral]

Personally I listen for the sound of the body bump then press c. At least set that as your baseline and from there you should be able to tell if you need to be a tad quicker or hesitate a half moment after the body bump. Everyone has different pings and fps so its relative to what works on your system.(also youre aiming your grapple to far)

[wise coral]

🙇‍♂️ Hey takao when you have a moment can you share the progam name you used to record your inputs? I'd like to make a baseline to aim for using cntrl button in the float 123. Also want to make sure i dont download the wrong thing and get banned for 3rd party software somehow lol

[viscid kelp]

I use this https://github.com/univrsal/input-overlay

Just an OBS plugin

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/ku1Uv7ipAyyZGeQbR?invite=cr-MSxkWkEsMTQ5NzU3NTA

laggy ass clip but im slowly getting it

[wise coral]

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kuf1Y4TZBUDbjW19Q?invite=cr-MSxiWU4sMTQ5NzU3NTA

can someone lmk if im just ass or if i cant uppercut sooner after using F

[naive plaza]

Iirc they changed something about Shayol F that affected combo extensions, it still works as combo starter tho if you cancel after the first hit and go into an uppercut (or LMB depending on the weapon)

[ionic bluff]

Alrighty thanks

[naive plaza]

Maybe a Shay main can give more insight sorry! I play her but not that much

[gentle goblet]

Recently got into ranked, I noticed players jump after H. Why do they do that? Is it frame canceling? So it’s just simple as H-J-H?

[wary escarp]

Could be combo thing, some weapons can do H-dodge-H into uppercut

Jumping and crouch cancel can do the same thing without spending stamina to dodge

But that should only works if you landed the first H and the jump is the short hop

[undone anchor]

Did they do it recently? Till last month it still worked for me 🤔

[undone anchor]

It's the same thing as an ADA, yeah 👍

Wouldn't recommend it personally tho

[wary escarp]

Yeah, the jump isn't consistent enough for me

[gentle goblet]

Oh gotcha

[undone anchor]

Yeah

[wary escarp]

ACCA and ADA still works

[meager trail]

AAA best combo

[wary escarp]

best range combo

[gentle goblet]

ACCA & ADA?? What’s that?

[naive plaza]

ACCA is attack > crouch > cancel > attack

ADA is attack > dodge > attack also referred to as toothpicking (used on longsword, katana/heng, nunchuks, fistblades, & knives to combo start)

I think that’s all the weps that allow 2 attacks before uppercut that is full true..

[gentle goblet]

The cancel is the crouch, or that is a separate input like using berries?

[naive plaza]

The cancel is to get out of the crouch so you don’t perform a crouch LMB/RMB and instead do a normal LMB/RMB depending on the weapon

[gentle goblet]

This is annoying of me to ask, those are?

[naive plaza]

Left mouse button (horizontal attack)
right mouse button (vertical attack)

[gentle goblet]

Oh okay okay, I’m controller but that makes sense now. Thank you 🫡

[naive plaza]

Sorry MnK brain 😅

[gentle goblet]

No worries haha

[dim abyss]

Set the bot to combo training without disengage, combat mode ON for combo practice

so the bot will dodge out of untrue combos

[undone anchor]

In the specific, try to tap your uppercut very quickly as soon as you bump the enemy

You are waiting a long time on the ground, ideally you want that to be as short as possible, nearly invisible

[queen lily]

Anyone know how to do the dagger with dreadful kick thing?

[naive plaza]

its just a normal attack after the ding + hop

iirc its lmb

not a dagger player haha

[acoustic epoch]

how should one deal with zai's ultimate?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Wagyu leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[compact island]

use a more broken ult

there are many now

[wary escarp]

For your info, crouch in ACCA is preferred to holding crouch in which your character enter crouch state and not doing a small crouch then stand up, then you quickly click crouch again to cancel crouch state

[gentle goblet]

Is the window small? So I can hold crouch immediately after H connects then tap C again correct?

[wary escarp]

Not really, it is tight but not so tight that it hard

You just need to get your muscle memory down and you should be good

[wary escarp]

You can hold crouch as soon as H landed, then quickly tap C again right as your character crouch and then H again

Recommend to try it slow first, try to do H-Hold C-Tap C-H

[gentle goblet]

Thank you

[dim abyss]

its forgiving

the trick is you can't do it too fast and you can't do it too slow

but within that time window there is a lot of room for timing variation

5 mins of practice should be enough

start slow, and then speed it up gradually until it gets too fast, and then practice that in-between timing

don't try to do it fast, just do it slow at first and then see how fast you can do it without it fucking up

because you might be surprised to see how slowly you can do it and still get the combo

[rich talon]

Hi there, quick question. I’ve seen now people talking about true damage and true combos. What exactly is the difference to normal damage and combos then?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | aki. leveled up!
ℹ | Level up messages can be disabled for the guild with owo level disabletext

[dim abyss]

true dmg = league of legends

true combo = a combo that your opponent cannot escape without a combo breaker skill

soft true combo = a combo that your opponent can only escape using some skill that instantly gives you focus for example ziping F, but not dodge out of

and if they can just dodge out of it, it's an untrue combo

[rich talon]

[earnest tide]

Does anyone know what that circle next to a enemy's HP bar indicates in game?

like sometimes it's green, grey, or half grey

[meager trail]

stagger metter

only exist in quick match

get hit by stagger = increase the metter
once it turn green they can tap jump to do a backward somersault to escape

[flat onyx]

Imagine having fps and ping problems

Where your opponent just spams jump lmb and you can’t hold blue

And the dodges rubberband u back into the jump lmb

I’m gonna laugh to death

[undone anchor]

Welcome to Naraka. 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[drifting mirage]

Great sword string tips and polearm any ? All the vids I've seen are out dated ?

[undone anchor]

weapon mechanics videos are still all up to date if it's not combo what they talk about 👍

[viscid kelp]

Daring statement

watch someone ask why dagger dash is not gold focus

Eraldos did good videos on GS/PS stoneform
The GS one should be slightly inaccurate because GS got minor QoL changes some time ago
However the fundamental logic of how stoneform works and when you trigger each type of stoneform is still correct
Therefore prob the best vids on those two weapons imo

[undone anchor]

ok, a little imprecise maybe 😆

[drifting mirage]

Even greatsword hook meta ?

So I just got fix my settings

[undone anchor]

what do you consider by greatsword hook meta?

greatsword was never meta for what i knw 🤔

only hero that can make it work somewhat is tarka due to his ult

[drifting mirage]

About a 2 year vid of vertical hit hook vertical hook greatsword

[undone anchor]

could you send the video?

i'm not exactly understanding what you mean 🤔

[drifting mirage]

1 sec

[undone anchor]

ty

[drifting mirage]

I got send it later I ain't on my wifi my phone Provider blocks youtube

[undone anchor]

sure, dw 👍

no stress

[viscid kelp]

Sounds like the restand thing Vy made a vid on some ages ago

[undone anchor]

i must've lost that one specifically 🤔

[analog oxide]

what weapons are easiest and consistence for beginner to main?=

[flat onyx]

Longsword

Katana/heng

[drifting mirage]

Get CRACKED with the Greatsword (OP With It) | Guide - Naraka: Bladepoint

PsyclopsKD

[undone anchor]

@viscid kelp yoto f1 into grapple bump into vertical chain isnt true anymore correct?

just took a peak at what they meant and it does not look like a combo at all, just a weird restand that looks too slow to even exist 🤔

[viscid kelp]

Idk
It's been ages since I looked at Yoto or GS

[undone anchor]

Same here

[wary escarp]

Make use of stagger mechanics

Holding & dodging results in your stagger reset, which makes rubberbanding infinite you

Don't press nor hold anything until 3rd or 4th hit then your stagger will be small enough to dodge out

[wary escarp]

As far as I know it is considered as noob stomper weapon and the worst weapon in the game. All it has is raw damage and very little options, it is also slow. A lot of people know how to deal with GS to bait for easy parry. There are character that can make use of GS damage still but I wouldn't recommend picking them just for GS.

I recommend you trying every weapon out. You need to know not only your weapon, your option but at the same time the opponent's weapon, their options too. If you decided to stick to heavy sword then try PS, it is just a better GS, more options, better souljade.

As for tips using heavy sword, making use of stoneform and the fact that you can hold your focus for very long to force enemy to guess

Get into their head, hold check them to see if they trigger happy with their parry, force them to guess when you gonna release and then use it against them.

[drifting mirage]

thank you i got read there first instincts and make them question there second

[analog oxide]

how do i move faster with dualswords?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otP69BwbKss

this guy move so fast, i dont understand

[dim abyss]

i can send u some

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIAPf3y1NjE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAVmgbOqdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jp2o5EeT4Ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZwZDl5-GXE

these are the videos that taught me how to use them

[dim abyss]

what do u mean specifically

give me a timestamp

[analog oxide]

https://youtu.be/otP69BwbKss?t=831

[dim abyss]

that's focus dashing

for dual blades, what he did precisely there

it's hold dodge -> hold right click -> hold dodge out of it and repeat

[analog oxide]

he jump between roft and under the on the ground

everything so fast

[dim abyss]

basically you are using the forward motion of the forward dodge and the focus attack from sprint to move faster at the cost of stamina

every weapon has its own way to use stamina like this to run faster by using the attacks

it's a key part of movement as it makes you immune to stagger and just in general you will move around 2x faster

it's something you will get better at with practice, as you use thee different weapons more and more and get muscle memory for how it works in this game

[dim abyss]

https://youtu.be/3ERpDpM4tck

u should watch this guide

[analog oxide]

thank you, i already watch that video but it was still confuse when i watch streamers fast movements

[drifting mirage]

STUDY TIME ABOUT GO GREAT THANK YOU

[analog oxide]

the air dash movement were so hard

[dim abyss]

as far as movement goes, there is nothing they can do that you can't learn to do

i promise you it becomes effortless with just a bit more practice

you just need to get used to using it

[analog oxide]

i'll practice harder

[south thorn]

ive been practicing this one concept for an hour and its only worked twice? since its happened before i know its possible but im doing the exact same thing and it isnt working

[south thorn]

yea i spent an hour and a half practicing Hori, crouch Vert, grapple charged hori

hit it maybe 4 times lol idk what im doing wrong

[compact island]

what are your FPS?

[south thorn]

unlimited and im definitely running over 60

[south thorn]

2 hours now i give up idk if the game was updated since the tutorial was released but its literally a 1/100 chance of me hitting it

[viscid kelp]

[These](#🔱┃weapons-combat message) are the current basic combos that still work

From your description the one you are trying still very much works, and consistently at that

[south thorn]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kwEk6pQExS4-_xvm8?invite=cr-MSwzN2gsMjM0MzY3MjE0

this is what it looks like when it DOES work but my fingers are moving the exact same so idk what the outlier is
https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kwDUVe35VXECkqk7V?invite=cr-MSxVYmQsMjM0MzY3MjE0

[viscid kelp]

Grapple is a bit slow
But I'm also wondering, is your connection stable?

Your hit delay seems to have a fair bit of variance

Maybe letting this run through can provide some insights, in case you're not sure

[south thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-shane-head-rub-gif-3795134740713974200

[viscid kelp]

Bandwidth is uninteresting

It's more so about ping and packet loss

There should be some neat graphs at the bottom

[viscid kelp]

Weird, your connection seems fine
Your hit delay just looks so exaggerated

If I artificially raise my ping to roughly match yours, it looks like this for me. Aside from the faster grapple, it also just seems like my hit delay is slightly better, but I might be mistaken

I'd recommend working on the grapple for now, and maybe trying to hold A+lmb as I am. If even with ideal execution it keeps looking that way, we might have to look at other things

Oh yeah, you're not using frame generation, right?

[compact island]

over 60 is not enough, so you do not know how much, Im guessing, I suggest you get that of the way before stressing more if you are near 100 then is your fault is you are just above 60 is not your fault

[south thorn]

its definitely becoming more consistent
i understand grappling as soon as their feet leave the ground but i recreate the same movements and it misses

i am leaning towards skill issue but 2 hours of just practicing this is kind of absurd

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kwHfSvt4ggebexj-Y?invite=cr-MSwyOUssMjM0MzY3MjE0

[viscid kelp]

You can buffer the grapple nowadays

Don't try to bother with timing it

If the video is old, it might have suggested otherwise

[south thorn]

definitely above 100 i dont think its the game hoeing me

[dim abyss]

grapple

grapple is why u failed it

[dim abyss]

here u started focus late

u can buffer the focus attack

while you're doing the grapple

so it starts instantly

and for katana use vertical, not horizontal focus

here are my inputs for doing it

maybe it helps

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/28mBhE4tMz9DfC?invite=cr-MSxLaXgsMTExNzEyNDA3

the way to think of it is - you are animation cancelling the uppercut with the grapple

you need to get a feel for it that's all

after enough practice you will have a feel for every weapon's timing

[south thorn]

im doing this every attempt 💔

thank you for the tops though ill be sure to use them

[naive plaza]

It’s fine to use hori focus for katana combo (ignoring any weird terrain since this is in free training)

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kx1uYCFZ5VnFqYBK6?invite=cr-MSx5d0osMTQ5NzU3NTA

just sharing some progress im making

just figuring out the things i can do with that mechanic i forgot the name of

[undone anchor]

Clean!

[undone anchor]

211?

[ionic bluff]

yes

that

its way more consistent than with longsword

[wise coral]

was katanna float into 1 2 3 removed or changed with this update?

Finally bloody learned the combo and now since the update I can rarely ever hit it

[south thorn]

how impactful are glyphs when im trying to replicate something in a video....

[wise coral]

I believe combo wise the only difference would be if you have grapple speed glyphs or not. But even then combos should work fine without having grapple speed maxed out

[south thorn]

uurggggg

[wise coral]

Whats the combo you're trying?

If you post a clip Im sure myself or someone here can help

[south thorn]

they helped yesterday but i still cant get it consistently

[wise coral]

just watched your videos, whats your fps again?

my ping is higher than yours so ping shouldnt be a problem

[ionic bluff]

does justina ult combo still work? i dont dash into my opponent fast enough when i try to set it up

like when i crmb and then pop ult

[south thorn]

in the free range its 70

[wise coral]

if they still look similar to this I would say you're grappling too late. Think of the grapple as a pre-input. Dont wait for the uppercut to start before you grapple. Just break it down step by step. Try to find the absolute earliest you can hit the grapple by just spamming uppercut into grapple on repeat.

[wise coral]

isa bit low to be honest lemme try to limit mine rn. If I can hit it with your same fps and ping Ill let you know 1 second

[viscid kelp]

Uppercut->ult got heavily nerfed
Not really worth using anymore

[ionic bluff]

:c

[viscid kelp]

On flat terrain it works, but is very tough
Downwards terrain can work too but depends
upwards terrain no chance

[ionic bluff]

alright

[warped zinc]

Wait how did her ult get nerfd

[wise coral]

Basic Uppercut grapple combo is working on 60 fps and 80+ ping so it should work for you

[south thorn]

blegghhhh ive been spamming grapple since yesterday like you suggested

and then took all the tips given

[wise coral]

Try to grapple too early and mess it up

get a feel for what is too early

and work your way back from there

[wise coral]

Do you know if the katanna float 1 2 3 got changed in update? I looked through patches notes and didnt see anything about it. Feels so much stricter now after update.

[viscid kelp]

Don't know, no

Didn't try them since the update

[wise coral]

Can you try it out when you have free time later if you dont mind?🙇‍♂️ wana see if im just losing my mind/touch or it got harder

[south thorn]

its just like

[south thorn]

here he can use horizontal then crouch horizontal before even doing an uppercut
if i attempt the same thing it isnt true and the dummy dodges out of it

[viscid kelp]

Horizontal -> crouch horizontal is not true
It's horizontal -> crouch -> crouch cancel -> horizontal

Essentially by holding C you enter crouched state
By tapping it again, you stand up again

This way you can perform 2 horizontals in quick succession

[south thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/lil-yachty-drake-oprahs-bank-account-meme-laptop-gif-20803826

yea if after a combined 3-ish hours in the range i cant do simple tech ill chalk it up to a skill issue and just spam m1

[wise coral]

Stop holding lmb while learning and hold rmb?

Then when you uppercut you just stay holding rmb and never let go. Might be easier to understand learning wise, instead of trying to get the correct pre-input of a LMB.

[dim abyss]

set the bot to combo training combat mode

that doesn't look like a true combo

[viscid kelp]

It feels alright with the setups that worked for me prior to this patch

[viscid kelp]

The start of slide lmb restand leading into the lmbs was untrue
Rest is oke tho

[dim abyss]

ah okay

[wise coral]

Maybe they changed my method of using the control button

Who snitched

[wise coral]

[wise coral]

Woah haven’t seen that ending I’ve been holding lmb for a 1.0 as long as I can keep them on the blade during the 1 2 part

[viscid kelp]

1.0 works on player but on bot it's just too difficult for me to bother

You CAN hit it on bot but

it's just annoying

[wise coral]

My trouble is now after the update I can’t seem to hold them up on the 1 2 part with katana. I can still hit it if I start with staff and swap to katana, but not start with katana

But you proved it’s there so I gotta keep working i guess

Feel like I had it pretty much down before the update just so weird . But ty ty 🫡

[viscid kelp]

Did maybe some setting change for you? I sometimes mess around with things and it can have weird effects on Naraka

Oh ye and this one

[wise coral]

Is this 211 into 123?

Haven’t seen that one either

[viscid kelp]

Yee
It gives you the highest float -> easiest 1.0
But it requires some timing on the rmb/lmb (depending which one you use)

[wise coral]

I’ll mess with them later hopefully can get it back Kek. It was working starting with Staff and swap in the 2nd uppercut so I assuming I’m just doing something wrong

[viscid kelp]

Maybe you are grappling differently or not inputting the follow up as tightly as could be

[wise coral]

I was able(pre update)to get it on lock using “control” during the 2nd part of the jump slash. I see you don’t even do the “hold w then let go and hold again” that I’ve seen on YouTube videos. is your method contingent on letting go of w at the correct timing?

[wise coral]

Ngl this could very much be it, I have used swords the least, so I’ve noticed my grapple placement/timing is less good on them vs other weapons

Damn you grapple much farther out than me on the float. I feel like if I’m not near the middle of white circle the bot won’t ascend with me on 2nd uppercut. I’ll work on that later too maybe that’s my problem. (I’m like double your ping but I was like that before update and it was working fine i doubt that’s the problem) Ty for videos they’re helpful

[pulsar silo]

I saw a combo video where someone uses as example Longsword and goes V into Dash back and V again etc. But the back dash seems like the animation is way quicker "gone" to go into vertical. For me it doesn't work somehow. Is there something I don't understand in this?

When i try to use that combo in practice mode and change the settings so the sparring partner dodges as soon as possible it never worked. In general it feels way to long and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

[viscid kelp]

There is a difference between tapping dodge+directional input and holding dodge+directional input

Tapping it results in a tap dodge, which is longer but has more recovery frames, and is thus slower in terms of performing follow up actions

Holding dodge+directional input results in a hold dodge, out of which you can perform actions a lot quicker

[pulsar silo]

Dude thank you so much. Honestly I searched up videos and stuff and no one talked about that I just tested this and it worked directly

Much thanks

😊 🙏

[viscid kelp]

No problem

This game has a bunch of basic mechanics that people kinda just don't explain in detail
I've been in your spot before

[pulsar silo]

There's so much actually to this game but I do like it. It feels like learning a fighting game

I see many people playing in around 40-60 ping and that certain combos only work that way. I guess in higher ranked everyone takes advantage of that right

I have atm 14 ping

[viscid kelp]

It was a bit different in the past, but nowadays low ping, high fps is the best for combos

The higher your ping/lower your fps, the more difficult combos get

14 ping is very good
It will minimize scuffed interactions

This game's netcode has a bunch of struggles, but 14ms should alleviate a large portion of it

[analog oxide]

what are good and simple nunchucks combos?

[dim abyss]

grapple combo

with rmb focus

[analog oxide]

i tried to knockup into animation cancel grapple knockback but it never works dont know why

sword were so easy

[dim abyss]

it is a little harder

different timing

you still have the alternative pinned combo

[wary escarp]

Less of her ult got nerf and more of raw dragon got remove, activate ult no longer float airborne enemies

[grim arch]

focus slide can be jump cancelled by changing weapon while sliding

[analog oxide]

How do I know when I can dodge, jump or crouch out of normal attacks?

[undone anchor]

When the enemy is attacking you, you mean?

[analog oxide]

Yes, after I get staggered

[undone anchor]

After 3 hits usually nothing combos except if you were in the air

For when you are being juggled, you are free once you are on the ground

As for jumping away or crouching away from attacks, I wouldn't recommend it at all

Just try to dodge, it's the only thing that has 1 frames of the move possibilities (not counting heroes abilities)

[viscid kelp]

I mean
If the enemy is holding fan lmb focus or spear/staff 3rd stage horizontal, crouching/ jumping are very viable

[analog oxide]

I keep getting long sword lmb > lmb then dash then lmb lmb me again. I dont get time to use focus to avoid stagger nor can dash during stagger

[viscid kelp]

There's definitely attack types you can cover that way

[analog oxide]

In the best case senario i managed to hit back and it clash but most of time they do it really a lot, especially if i am trying to run away

[rich talon]

i still dont get the 2nd Uppercut haha. Is it my Timing or am i just way to dumb for this Game? :(

[compact island]

do not press any direction or you will do that roll in second try, and you are pressing too early wait for the char to land

also check you fps is higher than 100 if you have not

[rich talon]

i try it

[rich talon]

yeah they are above 100

[winter plover]

Am I crazy but I havent found any light weapons like fan or dagger in ranked (im newbie)

[dim abyss]

there is a feature for new players that reduces the types of weapons you can find in matches until you rank up a little

intended to not overwhelm the player with a lot of weapon types to learn

but this is very mild and as soon as u rank up a little it goes away

[winter plover]

what rank you say would be about the point that stops?

[dim abyss]

from memory, silver something

or something around that

[winter plover]

darn close then

[rich talon]

like this?

and all of this comes down to timing and no movement inputs? I have a long way to learn this game then haha

[compact island]

depending on the thing you are trying to do, some do require you to press forward at certain moments

[dim abyss]

good job

it is possible to get it down consistently, my friend always does this combo

[rich talon]

Yeah i watched a Vid of prosp3r doing 5 or 6 in a row on one guy. Thought like damn i need to learn this haha

[undone anchor]

80 still works 👍

[undone anchor]

This is correct. The issue with first clip was also timing. Next step is to start pressing W during the second uppercut, you want to be above the enemy after it, so that you can juggle them

[compact island]

as I said before, 80 in training is not 80 in battle

[undone anchor]

👍

[naive plaza]

pros is very high fps its unlikely youll be able to do that many if you are barely above 100. Also if you cant get at least 3 jump lmbs after double uppercut youre better off doing the focus attack after one grapple bump iirc

[undone anchor]

@indigo parcel here you go

these are two examples

[wise coral]

I can’t see your ping. If it’s anything near mine (68-75ish) you’re still grappling too far out ahead. I believe ping affects how precise you need to be with grapple placement. 2nd uppercut won’t work for me unless my grapple is inside the white circle at my ping, could be the same for you.

[rich talon]

hmm ok thanks for the tip. I go try it out later and mess around with the grapple :)

[rich talon]

Im on 15ms to 20ms average

[wise coral]

That’s pretty great you’re fine maybe just aim for the edge of the white circle? As long as you arnt too far out you’ll be fine

[dim abyss]

that's super good

just something to keep in mind

the lower your ping, the less room for error you have in combos

[storm heron]

Guys, I don't know if this is the focus of the chat, but does anyone know what this function is for? I had never realized it existed, I tried a few ways in free training and got frustrated.

[meager trail]

it's this one

[storm heron]

God one, Thanks Tabbie ❤️

[rich talon]

think i get it now. Thanks for the Tips

[dim abyss]

third time's the charm huh

[rich talon]

150mb for Discord to much to play the Vid i guess haha

glad i have nitro if Discord didnt display Vids, only as files

[undone anchor]

Wp!

[viscid storm]

Is there a way to end a scale rush early? I swear I see people with weapons like the polesword and greatsword chain scale rush without doing every spin

[undone anchor]

Unless you dash into a wall I reckon there isn't unless you grapple midway through? Not sure you can do that tho

Don't quote me on it tho, it's a while since I tested it

[dim abyss]

no

i dont think so

u got a clip?

it's just one dash movement

u can chain them back to back by landing on a wall

u can flow from scale rush into a mid air focus dash

but cancel it? i dont think u can

[cosmic bloom]

Hi could someone recomend me videos about combat, not combos, I can do some simple to intermediate combos, but normally I end up dying before I can even start them, I get stunned to death against good players

and another question, 100fps is good for combos? or should I lower my settings to get around 180-200

[lusty cosmos]

getting more is better if you can. the game is very fps and ms dependant so you want to push for as good performance as you can

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kyJqmlBHvYkda3i4F?invite=cr-MSxBc3gsMTQ5NzU3NTA

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kyJSJ6dhuJjbLf74U?invite=cr-MSxVVE8sMTQ5NzU3NTA

https://tenor.com/view/goku-scream-dragon-ball-z-gif-14051720

[dim abyss]

stay out of my lobbies ty

[ionic bluff]

I lag when i play online

So

Not happening haha

[surreal spear]

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kz1JkAoYEEHvEGrLK?invite=cr-MSxhYjQsMTQ5NzU3NTA

guys

do you see the vision

[meager trail]

vision?

[ionic bluff]

no time to test further since im going out

[ionic bluff]

what i wanna do

[meager trail]

i don't get it

[ionic bluff]

i wanna katana float in theend

or smth like that

many possibilities

[undone anchor]

It is feasible, shouldn't be too hard to get 👍👍

[ionic bluff]

Yeaaa

[ionic bluff]

istg

if one more person keeps staggering me while im hold checking

ill lose it

[dim abyss]

pov low ping opponent

[warm tangle]

Is there better weapons to start learning comboing with than others?

[meager trail]

not really, not that many weapons are considered ''combo weapons'' anyway

[undone anchor]

I d recommend not focusing on combos in the early stages of learning the game 👍

Learning basics like "hold checking" and general movement are way stronger tools to acquire 👍

(then again, if it's cool just go for it, that s always the best approach, even if not the safest nor the most optimal)

[warm tangle]

I’ll look up hold checking then, thanks!

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/y59HE32pHqU?si=-Vblhccotwr-l7vn

This is a good starting point 👍

[warm tangle]

After watching this I clearly understood nothing about this game

[compact island]

do not worry too much, couple more months and it will be completely irrelevant to know this

[ionic bluff]

does anyone know how to do the dual halberds infnite?

[flat onyx]

Knowing is one thing

Doing it is different

The ls infinite is easier imo

[ionic bluff]

there is one?

[flat onyx]

Ls 211 into vertical into another uppercut

U can chain them

I can’t really chain them, so I just do ls double uppercut into 211 carousel

[wary escarp]

Isn't most infinite is practically impossible now?

Outside of Tarka's V

[meager trail]

think ls and db/dh infinite still possible but requires 240+ FPS stable or something

[undone anchor]

Nah 🤔

Lyam still got them, Lannie too

And technically also feasible to do the Justina one

U just don't have the raw dragon to start the combo itself, the rest is all there still

[viscid kelp]

It's just generous to call them infinites considering they're all ability bound

but yes there is a billion ToDs with character abilities

[undone anchor]

Plus the knives infinite 🤔😂👍

I had forgot about that one and it just popped back up in my YouTube😂

[crisp fox]

takeda tod 🥰

[analog oxide]

why i cant do this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q-MWy4NJV4

what are the timing/trick?

[undone anchor]

Exactly same as reported in the inputs shown in the video 🤔

It just takes time to get used to it

Also it's not really useful in game itself and there is a chance it got patched out recently

[analog oxide]

when i swap weapon and hold lmb it just hit air instead

[undone anchor]

It then means that you are too slow

It is close to simultaneous

[wary escarp]

you can think of it as this. When you swap weapon, your character visible move their hand to swap, during it movement, if you buffer an attack, you will get a focus.

Do it on the ground, if you able to swap weapon, hold your attack yet it takes a moment to charge focus, you doing it right. Now just jump after you do so.

That's my way to attemp it and succeed. If it works it works

[viscid kelp]

It wasn't
Also keeping free and fairly safe airtime can be extremely useful

it's useful enough to be tourney banned

[undone anchor]

Yep, but mostly because they could stall infinitely at high levels 🤔

Those end circles would've been even crazier than what they are now

(Ty for confirming it didn't get patched out 👍!)

[viscid kelp]

P sure it won't ever be

it's a netcode bug they can't fix

that's part of why it's actually banned

and also why it's easier on higher ping

[undone anchor]

[analog oxide]

i still can't do this 😭

also does anyone know a quick way to swap weapon when using Pistol? everytime i aim and people charge at me , it took forever before it swap

[undone anchor]

Dash

And swap

It has to be a hold dodge

Or also crouch works

[viscid kelp]

Crouching out of ranged weapons doesn't usually work because when aiming, you don't crouch normally, you enter a crouched aim state, out of which you can't properly swap

Also tap dodge works too, since swapping weapons cancels the dodge anyway

[undone anchor]

ty for correcting me 👍

[rich talon]

Idk why, but i still dont understand the Combat that much in this Game. Have 350hrs now, idk if Plat 1 in 1s and Astral 2 in 2s is any good for that playtime. But im from eu, have 15-20 ping. Get NA and SEA People in my Lobby that Blue Focus me to hell or stagger me to death and i cant even get a Blue Focus on them.

Dont know, what i am doing wrong tbh

[viscid kelp]

An [NA] or [SEA] tag only means the account first logged into that specific server, not that they are necessarily playing from those servers currently

It does happen, but not as much as the tags would seem to imply

Aside from that, I think it's very hard to improve at Naraka without learning from experienced people. This game is an absolute knowledge ocean. If you care about improving, watch streamers who're good at the game and study what they do

This channel also has guides pinned that can help

[rich talon]

Ahh alr. Didnt know that tbf

[viscid kelp]

Had to mildly correct my statement too, the system with those tags is a bit ass

Some people who live in EU first logged onto NA and now eternally have that tag

[rich talon]

Ive watched a ton of Videos for this Game now. Watch Prosp3r, Nohara etc. Bud i dont know, if i play this Game Solo my Brain doesnt work that well.

My Mate quit this Game and if u ask in the German Section, anyone is like Asura :(

[naive plaza]

You could also sign up for the dojo for help learning what you could specifically improve on

I’m from NA sadly so can’t be of much help myself or I’d offer to jump into a custom with you/invite you to the ones STR does decently regularly

Like Takao said the quickest and best way to learn this game is to have someone more experienced help out, since there’s so many different interactions/aspects to naraka

[rich talon]

Yeah thats the Problem haha. For my Job i need to work every Weekend and cant sign up then

[naive plaza]

Might be a shot in the dark but you could try finding EU streamers who maybe do custom rooms at the start of their stream to warmup or just join their discords and see if anyone in those communities is willing to help!

Naraka has a lot of passionate people who want the game to grow and succeed outside of CN, so there’s a lot of people willing to help new players

[rich talon]

Yeah i had one Guy, who added me recently. He said he didnt play like 1 Year. He stomped the hell out of me haha. He told me a bit about the Game, but with 300hrs its completely Beginner

[naive plaza]

That’s a normal new player experience trust me 😅 I was just in customs tonight teaching one of my friends and I don’t play solos, I play trios my neutral isn’t the greatest, but I put him in the dirt every time

A lot of it is just knowing when and how to punish certain actions that your opponent does

Understanding when they are animation locked & can be caught or released into safely etc

[rich talon]

Yeah the first time i streamed the Game on Twitch, i had like 5 Germans in there. 2 of them told me so much stuff, my Brain couldnt handle at that time. But all of them dont play the Game that often. And when they play, i am at work :(((

[naive plaza]

It’s easy to be overwhelmed for sure, but at your hours I assume you already know movement, dodges (tap vs hold), and probably the bread and butter combo for each weapon

So it’s probably about just learning those punish windows and reading your opponent better which comes with time

[rich talon]

Yeah i dont like Solos that much either. Either u get a Bot, that doges out of everything or some cracked lvl 400 Players haha.

[viscid kelp]

Not me who learned combos at like 600hrs

[naive plaza]

I was lucky enough to be told to just learn the basic grapple combo early in 🥲

So then if I caught someone I could be all cool and grapple them and feel like a badass

[viscid kelp]

[naive plaza]

Ez dopamine boost when I landed that combo

Probably helped me stick with the game LOL

[rich talon]

Yeah Movement is ok. Could be potentionally better for sure. Combos i know too. That Standard Grapple Combo :). But when i can punish someone, i need to get that in my head

Probably need to watch one Vid thats pinned here 20 times more to get this in my Head

[naive plaza]

Yeah even now I sometimes get the combo starter and then accidentally throw the 2 attack instead of going into combo. It happens haha brain lag

[rich talon]

Happens a lot for me haha. Kinda nervous in a 1v1 Situation

[naive plaza]

It’s normal. With time it’ll become more muscle memory and less thinking so when you get that catch you’ll capitalize each time

[rich talon]

But need to go off for now. Some deadass People think its ok, to do a Picnic at my Restaurants Terrace, even tho its closed. i hate such people fr

[naive plaza]

Hahah good luck!

[rich talon]

Thanks. Theyre getting pissed fr. But idc. When its Closed, why they doing a freaking Picnic with 20 people there :(((

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[fast viper]

@undone anchor yo yo bro

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Brooks leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[fast viper]

😭the only vid thats consistent

[undone anchor]

Wym?

[fast viper]

The combos are gone again

[undone anchor]

Which ones? Combos are still all doable from what I knw 🤔

Except things like hell step, heaven step, raw dragon,... 🤔

[fast viper]

🥲its been a long time man hope yu been good, its me with the crimson ping

[undone anchor]

I knw 👍👍

I'm getting better by the day, still a bit in pain, wby?

[fast viper]

I cant juggle

[undone anchor]

What's the ping this time around? And fps?

[fast viper]

213

[undone anchor]

Yeah, combos are dead 🤔😂

[fast viper]

My neutral better though i been watching alot of pro yt

[undone anchor]

Nice!

[fast viper]

Lol i can only double upper cut into grapple but the player stands up

[undone anchor]

U need to get using knives then 🤔😂

https://youtu.be/7Ju7tjqcMxI?si=F5bde0aycnNHcgm5

[fast viper]

They finna report me for hacking 🤣

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[fast viper]

I cant uppercut for the verticals

Like the air time not enuf

[undone anchor]

?

Of the enemy or yours?

[fast viper]

The enemy's when i Knock em up

[undone anchor]

Oh, I see

[fast viper]

But it if i do a lmb rmb rmb, when they try to parry it just shows the light and i still hit, and because they tried to dodge too the dodge thingy resets so u practically in a brawl with no way out

But If we clash it takes me a whole 2 sec for the animation to finish so i don't use em

[undone anchor]

With fistblades you'd be such a menace NGL 🤔😂😂

[fast viper]

The fistblades are awesome but I'm noob still, its very easy to fight from a distance cz i keep on holding

My main is the long sword

[undone anchor]

Nice

[fast viper]

But with my neutral skills im cracked now, lol even the hard bot in training is not as tuff

[undone anchor]

Nice. 👍👍

[fast viper]

Im tryna cook a lyam combo, damn this char still awesome, is he still meta or he was never

[undone anchor]

He is still strong in the meta

Just remember that they removed all raw dragons interactions 👍

[fast viper]

What raw dragon, the uppercuts?

[undone anchor]

Uppercut into ult

[fast viper]

Thats awesome, 🤣it never worked for me

Damn i almost had a decent combo, uppercut into the heng katana mix combo

[upbeat wagon]

With the Longsword how exactly do I do the double uppercut? Like V > V > c.V. > G > c.V. right? The second one desnt connect or rather the enemy is still staggered and doesnt get throwen into the air the second time... Im trying this on training bot in combo training no disengage, combat mode on

[undone anchor]

Do you have a clip of you trying?

It most likely is the timing of the grapple and second uppercut I'd say

I'm imagining that you are too slow at performing them

[upbeat wagon]

most likely jeah

[undone anchor]

Inputs are correct 🤔👍

[upbeat wagon]

My problem is mainly that After the grpplae bump It takes too long to go crouched again. If I hold during grapple i dont crouch and after it takes too long xD

I can send a clip in a few if I get medal fixed somehow. Its stuttering lik hell for some reason

[meager trail]

c.V as soon as you grapple bumped onto target

[undone anchor]

As Tabbie said, you have to start pressing crouch the second u bump the enemy

A bit late and you won't be crouching as fast, a bit early and you will fall to the ground

[upbeat wagon]

Okay and only press crouch? No d or a to prevent rolling?

[meager trail]

nope

just c.V

don't press any directional keys

[upbeat wagon]

OMG

thanks so much guys

[rich talon]

Ahh yes. The Problem i had too for 3 days.

[upbeat wagon]

holy im stupid for not getting that :o

[undone anchor]

When doing double uppercuts always take your hand off the keyboard till midway up the second uppercut 👍

[upbeat wagon]

And i´d assume its the same with katana and heng sword then? just starting with H instead

[undone anchor]

Yep

Also staff can double uppercut technically, and nunchucks

Not worth tho generally

[upbeat wagon]

aight thx :D

[rich talon]

But Heng and Katana have another timing then Longsword, or am i tripping in Training?

[upbeat wagon]

judgin on the normal grpple combo its a bit diff but idk

[meager trail]

don't think so
just bump enemy then c.V

[undone anchor]

Different animation and uppercut heoght

Katana and Heng are more forgiving imo

Larger window

[upbeat wagon]

Til i get that down ill stick to throwing knives. So much easier getting comboes 🙃

[rich talon]

Yeah i find it easier to get 2 Jumps after the 2nd uppercut. My opinion

[undone anchor]

It is easier

The uppercut is higher

[rich talon]

Ive saw a Video of prosp3r doing 6 Jump LMBs. Tf did he pulled that off on even ground?

https://youtube.com/shorts/sEFo2cM3d7Y?si=x_beCxzNGpzCScHo

Like wth

[fast viper]

Damn, when was this, it could be from a diff patch

@undone anchor https://streamable.com/3begih

Its not connecting on the floor damn 😭

[rich talon]

3 months old

[undone anchor]

Oh god my eyes 😱😱

[fast viper]

🤣i forgot sorry man

[undone anchor]

😂

[fast viper]

You saw how at the beginning the bot did the thing with the knives, but in game i can dodge out thank goodness

[meager trail]

bruh you're on 200 ping, you shouldn't expect ANYTHING to work properly on that ping

[rich talon]

Glad i can do this now

Only to get stomped by a bot

[meager trail]

well if a bot is allowed to ''play'' up to its max potential even world champions will get shit on by them

frame perfect dodges and parries, never fail any combos, neutral game better than any players

[rich talon]

Yeah i saw that once in a Stream. Didnt remember his Name but he got obliterated

[upbeat wagon]

I always thought that 211 would be needed for that :o

So I guess theres not rly any combos that need it?

[rich talon]

no. :D

[rich talon]

For 211 im way too dumb atm. Wanted to learn this but im Plat-Solar anyways. Need other stuff to focus on hahaha

[upbeat wagon]

Im plat 1 (duos) rn. abt to hit solar and I am also way too slow to manage 211

[rich talon]

Du warst deutsch, nh?

[rich talon]

Hab mir das auf ne Seitentaste von der Maus gelegt. Bin trotzdem zu doof dafuer haha

[undone anchor]

You just need to get the timing for it, once you get it it's nearly easier than a basic grapple combo 👍👍

[rich talon]

Hmm. Maybe i give it a try

[undone anchor]

Try starting with a single swap

Like uppercut katana into swap into longsword focus

For example

[rich talon]

Always wondered, why people get easy out of my Blue Focus. But that makes Sense now

[undone anchor]

What part?

[upbeat wagon]

jup

[rich talon]

nvm. ive mistaken it.

[upbeat wagon]

Ja ich auch xD Aber ich rall das nicht. Mein gehirn ist nicht schnell genug für die inputs

[rich talon]

Mixed up .9 Blue Focus with 211s. :(

[onyx loom]

🎉 | akio. leveled up!

[rich talon]

Ansich geht das sogar. Aber kp im Online Game verkacke ich alles, was ich im Training mache xDD

[swift sluice]

nice

[fast viper]

Yeh its a diff game once it gets red

[analog oxide]

How do I charge back in quickly after dash backward?

sometime it happens but i want to do it everytime, i dont udnerstand

[undone anchor]

hold the dodge button

instead of quickly tapping it

there are two kinds of dodge that arepossible in naraka: hold dodge (shorter and with less I-frames but quicker recovery) and tap dodge (more I-frames but slower recovery due to longer animation)

[analog oxide]

oh! so

lmb > hold shift -> s -> lmb doesnt work but
lmb > s > hold shift -> lmb works

this game so hard 😭

[meager trail]

if your purpose is just ADA you can just lmb > hold shift > lmb

doesn't need to be dashing backward

[analog oxide]

lmb hold shift lmb it dash into enemy?

[meager trail]

yeah

[undone anchor]

u can press any direction key with your dash

the only thing that matters with the kind of dash is how long you press the dodge button

[analog oxide]

i wanted this

thank you

[undone anchor]

wp!

just in case, you can hit only twice with that strat

after the third hit it becomes untrue

👍

[analog oxide]

😱

i was practicing vs bot and he spam me forever

😭

[undone anchor]

it's just a matter of timing

[analog oxide]

sometimes in ranked i also get spam the same trying to dash away but they keep hitting me

[undone anchor]

u are then missing the timing

spam dodging wont really help in naraka, if anything the opposite more often than no

t

consider it like this: each hit given (or taken) fills up a bit of what we call the combo meter (the green exagon that fills up close to the head of the bot when in combo mode or fight mode) . each bit of that meter that is filled, reduces the next stagger by a small amount. this means that each hit will stagger less and less. after a while they will automatically be able to get out of any hit chain. the sole exception is when the enemy is on the air; when on the air you can't dodge, so a combo can do the most dmg when you are being juggled around. hence you got 2 rules: if you are stuck in a combo and you are getting juggled in the air, once you hit the ground you are safe to dodge; after 3 hits while not being juggled, you can dodge the fourth

[meager trail]

do not spam dodges

[analog oxide]

oh this one

[meager trail]

you need to input dodges at the right timing

else you won't be able to escape certain chain of attacks

[rich talon]

damn. So much to learn in this Game.

[analog oxide]

spammed to death 😭

[undone anchor]

try to hold focus attack instead of simply dodging

you are getting staggered because he can just jump and follow you

if you can dodge it's not a combo

and if you start charging an attack, you can super armor that specific kind of attack (light attack, which is the white one)

[analog oxide]

when i use focus atk it dash back into enemy

i want to go away

[undone anchor]

then you have to double dodge

or, hold focus, hit them when they are mid animation and use the stagger to get away

[rich talon]

i dont get this 211 in my head haha

[analog oxide]

wow i didnt know i could turn off auto aim for melee