🔱┃weapons-combat

[undone anchor]

if you see, the focus animaitons starts midair

that's what you should aim for

[wise coral]

My chamber leader has cooked me with the bow shot into uppercut before so that works, just difficult (I can’t). The main thing outdated was the double+ uppercut with katana. Everything else should still be viable

Fml except I don’t know how he can bloody dagger 1.0 into Gs 1.0. It’s the only one I haven’t been able to replicate

[undone anchor]

How many FPS and ms do they have? 🤔🤔

Cuz dagger should have a slow swap after a fkcus

[wise coral]

O sorry I mean “he” in the second messages as a reference to the video not my chamber leader.

Fan is hard to swap from but I can do it, say into a 1.0 gs or heng ect. But dagger I’m at a loss, It’s a late swap with mean timing I’ve given up for now lol

[stray mason]

Could this be true or nah?

[undone anchor]

End focus no, toothpick with DB also untrue

The rest, when the enemy is in the air works

[open moth]

Very attention grabbing thumbnail lmao 😭😭

[bitter atlas]

guys im confused so this swap can only be done with items in the bag?

[viscid kelp]

The DB toothpick no, but the focus at the end can very much work

[viscid kelp]

Yeah
Although I think bag swaps and 211s are pretty advanced forms of weapon swapping, not sure why they were brought up first

[bitter atlas]

basically they allow u to swap faster right?

so its worth learning?

this game keeps getting harder and harder

[viscid kelp]

I heard some rumors the devs are looking into adjusting weapon swapping, but I'm not sure if it's true at all
Assuming weapon swapping stays in the game as it is, it's very important yes

[bitter atlas]

pls they should make their game more accessible not more difficult

hahaha

i think the training room could use updates too

allow us to que in training room, settings to reset the bot easier etc

[viscid kelp]

Queueing while in free training is like a 3yr old request

The devs have yet to listen

[wise coral]

No you can use your main two weapons to do it. Different weapons will be true on blue release(also depends if you hold vertical or horizontal) so it takes experimenting on what’s a true combo, but you can just use your main 2 slots if you like. Watch bottom right of my screen as I uppercut both times.(technically Takao’s right though it’s still using your bag, just a tad easier to use main 2 slots)

[viscid kelp]

Fundamentally, weapon swapping is about cancelling animations to perform follow up attacks with other weapons more quickly
The most common (and universally accessible) ways to cancel animations are crouching, dodging and jumping

Each of these vids shows you one of the three methods to animation cancel, and how it accelerates the attack chain (here katana horizontal -> pistol shot). In each video I first do that attack chain without any cancel, and then with the respective cancel

1st vid is crouch, 2nd dodge and 3rd jump cancel

While that particular swap line is not very useful, you can transfer the concept of animation cancelling and swapping more quickly to other cases, such as having two melee weapons, to allow for more creative ways to start/execute combos

Particular cases are especially useful for weapon swapping
For example at the peak of most uppercuts, you can dodge to cancel the rest of the uppercut animation, and use the dodge to perform a weapon swap, allowing combos such as this

211 makes use of this mechanic, but for 211 you cancel the rest of the uppercut animation with a dodge, and immediately cancel the dodge with a weapon swap (yes, swapping weapons cancels dodges)

Note how my 2nd dodge is cut short because I swapped to my greatsword

You can also swap weapons during the grappling hook animation, which can be useful for combos

[bitter atlas]

omg tq takao

can u explain the rules for weapon swaps to ranged weapons

for instance i sometimes feel like im unable to swap off the range weapon fast enough to the point tthat its unsafe to sneak shots in

[viscid kelp]

In general, the fastest way to swap away from ranged weapons is by dodging

However using ranged weapons while in melee combat is very situational and I wouldn't recommend it at first
The issue is that while holding a ranged weapon you're incredibly vulnerable, and identifying the windows during which you can safely be using a ranged weapon in melee range requires experience

Watching pros/top tier players can help learn about those windows though

[white tundra]

well put together 🫡 however, what do you mean cancel uppercut with a dodge? don't u mean with a swap?

[viscid kelp]

Well, the part that actually cancels the uppercut is the dodge
The swap occurs after/in conjunction with the dodge

[brave field]

whats like top 5 best weapons

[lusty cosmos]

Flying knives, fan, fistblades are kind of on top rn

Then maybe heng sword and dagger

[brave field]

okay

[brave field]

is staff good?

[undone anchor]

staff is good indeed, yeah 👍

[brave field]

thanksss

[undone anchor]

np!

[wary escarp]

But for the purpose of knowing match up, I recommending use and know every weapon basics

[astral palm]

I just found this great more stuff too learn im still trying too learn kbnm 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[undone anchor]

?

[woven anvil]

im a little confused so white beats red (counter) and red (counter) beats blue and blue beats white, then how come when im charging blue i can get interrupted?

[meager trail]

you got interrupted with what

[undone anchor]

so, it's explained a bit badly but what happens is that in case of a clash of attacks, red parries a blue (only when the red flash is active), blue overwrites white attacks and red simply can't parry white attacks so whoever parried will get staggered by those

if you are charging, you are in a blue focus state, which means that you cannot get interrupted by white attacks; if during the charging you get hit by a focus attack of any color (blue, purple, gold) you will get staggered and the charging will get cancelled

[woven anvil]

oh i see so a fully charged blue like the blinking can get interrupted by a like flash blue like instant blue

but a dagger if you clash then the dagger will win the clash cause i kept getting like pushed down and stabbed

[undone anchor]

Nop, simply if you are in the charging animation and someone attacks you with a blue, you get staggered

[woven anvil]

sort of like rock paper scissors i see thank you very much

[undone anchor]

Np

[wise coral]

I hit this grapple one time on accident and now can't replicate it. Am I skill issuing? Or is this not a thing and I rubberbanded the bot or something.

[wary escarp]

Nope

For dagger, soul break is reactable. If you keep spamming blue, your dagger will not be in your hand

In another word, my dagger now

[undone anchor]

[woven anvil]

i need to record but i charge and do blue and they counter with their blue i dont understand

[woven anvil]

time to look up soul break

[wary escarp]

soul break is the move where you do an dash blue focus attack after clash or dash using dagger

That move is suicide against people with high fps and good ping since they can easily react and parry your weapon

[wary escarp]

Well, nunchucks has a mechanic, in which if you have enough bar, you can auto parry your blue focus

[flat onyx]

Bro just had one day of the china neutral magic and then it disappeared

[bitter atlas]

guys grapple combos do i still have to hold a

i saw a video of a guy saying u dont

im so confused now

i still cant pull off a grapple combo

idk whut im doing wrong

[meager trail]

you never had to

[bitter atlas]

so i just dont touch any movement when grappling?

i still roll sometimes i dont understand

[meager trail]

what's ur ping and fps

[bitter atlas]

let me check in training

never really checked actually

26 ping

is there an fps counter in game

i cap it at 144 though cause thats my refresh rate

[meager trail]

nah gotta use overlays

yeah your ping and fps defo good for grapple combo

just practice more ig

[bitter atlas]

i suckkk

i dont understand why i roll sometimes and sometimes i dont

[meager trail]

the moment ur character perform the uppercut animation, let go of all keys then press grapple

[bitter atlas]

my grapple is q+left click

is there a way to make it just one press

[meager trail]

yeah set ur grapple to automatic

[bitter atlas]

is this correct

[meager trail]

yea

[bitter atlas]

tq tabbie

another question

when u wanna counter a blue is it better to tap-dodge or hold dodge into counter

i assume it depends on the blue

but i dont think i ever use tap dodge

i should try it more

[meager trail]

yes

also the direction of your dodge

https://youtu.be/7vMIlhsdQuE

check takao vid

[lusty cosmos]

Uncap your fps. It will run better even if you aren't hitting 144 fps

[bitter atlas]

ok just did

[undone anchor]

Don't cap FPS, never. Even if your refresh rate is that, game works on higher FPS and that affects your gameplay🤔👍

(sped up animations)

[bitter atlas]

noted sir thanks

[meager trail]

so why did i get hit by this spear blue?

bcoz it hits me on my back?

[wary escarp]

Yeah

[meager trail]

also

what the fuck

💀

[lusty cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-thousand-yard-stare-thousand-yard-stare-cat-ptsd-cat-soldier-cat-war-gif-9110270742088459827

[meager trail]

so how does the hengsword katana congeneric works actually?

here i can parry a normal attack

but here the move just clashed with a normal attack, as if it's also a normal attack

[undone anchor]

I reckon it's the distance that matters

Mid range it blocks everything

Melee not sure 🤔

The enemy has to be pushed by the air wave, meaning that if you are too late or too early it won't do anything

[compact island]

maybe is like the nunchuks? that only work with one type of normal atks?

[viscid kelp]

I would assume it just has a startup tbh

Just how normal parries do, even outside of netcode

[meager trail]

so the startup is treated as a light attack?

[viscid kelp]

I wouldn't be surprised, since all other congeneric swaps are immediate attacks

But it's just an assumption
I'd test it, if I wasn't on my way to uni

[compact island]

That does make sense

[bitter atlas]

yea i still cant katana grapple combo idk why

my blue focus always release the bot dodge

[jade gull]

You need to buffer charge the focus, as soon as you grapple bump you need to be holding the button

[flat onyx]

I actually didn’t know Abt buffering until later

[jade gull]

[flat onyx]

I jjst brute forced it

Spammed 0.9 focus to learn the timing

[jade gull]

I haven’t really sat and test but is the double upper doable on 60fps? How tight is the timing?

[chilly flame]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352376848121729034/1367130326765408267/3r8a2Tz.mp4?ex=681376d5&is=68122555&hm=0d9ddc5604aab40f6eeaa6a251b31371cd6c476391b7c82b5d305cacfb9bca78&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352376848121729034/1367130630663442573/pSRr48j.mp4?ex=6813771e&is=6812259e&hm=2286d27c18fe0aa9090dc7fd25c9a79567ebd74e3612f835895d5acb9ba3fb58&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352376848121729034/1367130870003269652/GKOFWTf.mp4?ex=68137757&is=681225d7&hm=edd8edc8bcf917a1676e1b17c4b1b4126e65923cfbdff6f630a407d688a8753b&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1352376848121729034/1367131067835748446/NX4NLWf.mp4?ex=68137786&is=68122606&hm=503af820db6f12e2de849cc8b0725e0c13f4c3bceff23b4e2a2e9786ee22bc46&

[onyx loom]

🎉 | AtesMAE leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[flat onyx]

Second one isn’t true, or is it?

[undone anchor]

Looks like it isn't, yeah

[lilac forge]

On longsword yes ,on katana no not really (for both you need to up your grapple speed)

[undone anchor]

looks super cool, but i reckon that it's not fully true 🤔

when you use the f followup to restand and uppercut it's untrue 👍

aside that super good job

[brave field]

whats best weapon for valda

[jade gull]

Spear or LS I believe

[naive plaza]

I’d be careful with spear. A lot of times I find the 2.0 precise release goes UNDER them if they’re trapped in a V2 spear

but ofc you can always go for the vertical 1.0 or an lmb for combo start if they don’t have combo breaker available

[viscid kelp]

Ngl before the spear lmb focus change, it was by a long long margin the worst weapon with Valda

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Takao leveled up!

[viscid kelp]

When hitting an enemy with ult bind, auto aim made you miss rmb focus and 2.0, and lmb focus went below the snared enemy

Even now I don't think spear is advisable to use during Valda ult

[meager trail]

naraka: how many cancel you want?
me: yes

[jade gull]

Obviously they didn’t want the fox XD

[meager trail]

🥹

my recent conversation with my teammate:
''y u die so quick''
''idk man my combo breaker didn't work''
''wdym your combo breaker didn't work? it's a combo breaker''
''idk man it just didn't, i pressed it but nothing happens''
''WDYM YOU PRESSED IT BUT NOTHING HAPPENS???''
''I MEAN I PRESSED IT BUT NOTHING HAPPENS!!!!!!!!!''

[jade gull]

Felt

[willow wharf]

hi is staff + greatsword/polesword combo still a thing?

[undone anchor]

Yes , should be even easier technically with this update 🤔

[flat onyx]

Yooooooo I know this feeling

[tiny pumice]

Would anyone happen to have any videos on combos with two weapons? I saw someone hit a sick polesword and longsword combo, was wondering if there’s a guide on that

[knotty cave]

@tiny pumice as soon as you finish an attack with the polesword&great sword or spear&staff equipped press the weapon switch button and it’ll start the combo

[jade gull]

I think he’s talking about a weapon swap combo not the coegenic skill

[jade gull]

But I believe it’s LS H H cV G ws to GS hold 1.0 V focus

[pliant laurel]

I see you everywhere, I swear.

[tiny pumice]

Hello there stranger

[undone anchor]

Yes, but the earliest I can send them to you is tomorrow evening (late), would that be aight for you?

[undone anchor]

Either that or uppercut swap into 1-2 / 1.0 focus 🤔👍

[brave crescent]

is there a way to know you dropped a combio
like fighting games have an option
block after first hit

is there anything like that in naraka

[lusty cosmos]

yeah use combo bot

combat mode on

it will dodge if ur combo isn't true

[brave crescent]

im in showdown rn can you send a screenshot of the setting

if it's not hard 4 u

[lusty cosmos]

im not in game rn. just go to practice settings in free training, it's easy to use

[tiny pumice]

That’s alright. Anything helps, just trying to learn more about the game

[icy wind]

anyone know if there is any setting to lower the effect of moonbane on my screen?

the blue effect from moonbane covers alot of my screen

[meager trail]

even with lowest settings sometimes moonbane vfx is still too intense so ig there's nothing we could do about that

why does valda scale rush hit me while my dh vertical charge missed her here?

[grim arch]

She hits your head, your focus is too low, and immediately after you die your attack stops.

[icy wind]

anyone have any tips on 211?

i am trying to use my scroll wheel to switch weapon

i am swapping from katana > fist > katana, but when i use scroll wheel to change weapon, it kept going to my 2nd weapon slot instead of the first

am i doing something wrong

[viscid kelp]

Scroll in the opposite direction then

Whether you scroll up/down from being unarmed decides which weapon slot you end up in

[indigo tapir]

just died from some weapon I've never seen b4 and idk what it was. Think it was melee but it also shot a bunch of stuff at me, looked like fists were coming at me.
Any1 know what Im talking about?

[meager trail]

you can just go training room and test all the weapons and souljades there

[compact island]

There are some new OP books you gain from a certain events since last patch, is probably that, they are weapon based, but you can use em even if you do not have the weapon equiped, they have big cool downs tho

[jovial eagle]

Hi idk if it's the good channel for this question but, I just came across a video from 3 years ago where he says that the quick parry is broken, meaning much less effective than the other one. Is that still the case or are both parries equally good now?

[lusty cosmos]

Maybe flying knives, it is the new weapon. You can go into free training to test it out btw

[lusty cosmos]

They are practically the same now, it was fixed

[compact island]

Did they change the nunchuks?

[sly ore]

they made the rmb focus stronger, but that was quite a while ago

[compact island]

I see, For some reason I feel the c.V launch higher and is messing me up, maybe is just me

being rust

[undone anchor]

It might be due to the improved animation I would guess?

It's minimal on the animation itself, but some minor changes have been made to enable grapple combos👍

[compact island]

I see, so its possible to grapple combo with the nunchuks now?

that sounds kinda strong

[wary escarp]

Yeah, that happens a while ago

Along with staff uppercut

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-kropp-bernie-the-incredibles-theres-a-tack-gif-6465619827017573809

[undone anchor]

Staff grapple combo is even easier since last patch

They buffed it specifically

[ebon onyx]

does anyone have any tips to get 211 consistent?

and is the timing on unarmed 211 different than 211 with 2 weapons? or am i imagining that

[undone anchor]

unarmed 211 u sheathe ur weapon and reequip it

normal 211 u swap twice

[undone anchor]

work on the timings; prolly ur swap after the dash is slow 👍 (it's a possibility; to be sure i'd need a clip of you trying it)

[ebon onyx]

sure, let me see if i can make a clip

somehow i can do unarmed 211 more often than with 2 weapons. i dont really understand why xD

[undone anchor]

prolly you are more comfortable with the keybinds

i also prefer it, but mostly because i customized my sheathe key in a way that was comfortable to perform the combo

[ebon onyx]

yeah true

i mostly get a dodge and that it either doesnt charge or that it only starts charging on the ground

i also saw on a yt video that you can swap 2 times and than dodge and hold, but when i do that i always still dash forward

[undone anchor]

You are tap dodging instead of hold dodging

The dodge animation should nearly not be visible

it should look more like this for example

[undone anchor]

it means that you are too slow in the inputs mostly

[ebon onyx]

Hmm ok, thank you. I'll try holding longer, I suppose. And do it faster.
And just to check, the dodge needs to be in between the first and the second swap right?

[undone anchor]

uppercut, swap preinputted during the uppercut, dodge, swap, preinput hold

[ebon onyx]

thank youu!

im doing it way more consistently now👍

[vapid skiff]

any tips on how to do this on controller?

[undone anchor]

Can't sadly help much on controller, since I never used it

But inputs should be the same, all the same

[teal belfry]

I would like to know the same how to do it on PS 😭

[teal belfry]

@undone anchor any good? I play on PS so it might look a bit different 🤷🏻‍♂️🫣

[undone anchor]

This isn't a 211

It's uppercut into a focus attack

Not a combo

Also, ps has a fondamental flaw: FPS

On console u ain't got enough FPS to perform a normal 211

There is a variation, with swap, but inputs are always the same

https://youtu.be/lcq1SwbXAX4?si=P0tWtGt04zFORLFw

https://youtu.be/HAm6AcuMRzs?si=BdblHTYhfp1VeGWA

Try those for starters

Just translate computer inputs to whatever u use on controller

[teal belfry]

Much appreciated 🙏🏻

[meager trail]

@viscid kelp dh scalerush hit into H into uppercut is untrue right? In a perfect situation with no ping/fps issue the person being hit could use their soft combo breaker after they got hit by the first H right?

[viscid kelp]

Under most circumstances yeah

[meager trail]

so i can hit it on combo bot because i rubberbanded it?

[viscid kelp]

Prob
Try it vs low ping human
Thing is, I can imagine it depends how the scalerush connects

at what point in the animation

[meager trail]

that matters too?

[viscid kelp]

There are attack strings that become true if you hit one of the attacks at the very end of the animation

For example there is a way to make ls running lmb -> hold dodge rmb -> uppercut full true

[meager trail]

yeah ik about that, you posted that one before

hmm

so that's what it is

[worn hawk]

This may seem silly but once someone has charged there attacks and now are in blue stage what are my opinions? I tend to wait and parry or run/Dodge out of the way I know I can clash with them but what else can I do?

[meager trail]

dodging is always the safest option

[compact island]

that is very common in most fighting games, attacks have more than one active frame, but the moment one of the active connect the others become invalid, each game manage those extra frames differently, but the end result is the recovery is less if you hit the enemy with the last active frames

so unsafe stuff becomes safe, and new connections becomes posible, that being said, I think in Naraka case you can get those just by chance, doubt you can actually do it consistently

[wary escarp]

Dodging is the safest

[thorn dome]

do we have a current tierlist for weapons & characters?

[undone anchor]

weapons are all good. characters i reckon it depends

[naive plaza]

Knives are S tier esp in team modes.

[flat onyx]

Knives S

That‘s just all you need to know

[lusty cosmos]

Fan and fistblades would be A ig

[undone anchor]

Staff also high tier

Pretty strong especially in recent patches

[wary escarp]

Reminder: Only included Greatsword if they are master of their craft or a Tarka

[undone anchor]

Ahahah, definitely

Better go pole sword in that case

[compact island]

What is a "Vertical Blink Strike"?

[meager trail]

katana vertical charge attack

[lilac forge]

2 parries and a dodge robbed what the helly

[compact island]

that is an odd ban, any idea why?

[meager trail]

i thought the same and asked the same question but looks like no one got the answer

i also haven't entered the arena with katana so idk if it's really that move that is banned, or they did a doodoo again and it's supposed to be something else

[compact island]

Yeah Im thinking doodoo

[compact island]

Parries have start up, they are not instant, those parries were nowhere near their active state

[meager trail]

that's true, however it doesn't change the fact that the game we're playing is not how it was designed/intended to be played
take a simple 123 for example: it was designed to be react parry-able, but when fps/ping come in to play, it's not possible to react parry to anymore, this changed the core gameplay completely, from a game of reactions to a game of guesses

[compact island]

Tbh after someone confirmed that the route they were following according to official sources it was casualization, I no longer care, I'm just giving him the raw info, not even going there... but yeah @lilac forge , tabbie is right

but also your parries were damn late

[meager trail]

it's late because of ping/fps, his character started the parry animation before kylin even release

this is, from his pov, still a guessing parry

[compact island]

I forgot parry start up ms but those were just not it

[undone anchor]

No flash here, hence no parry

It's true that their enemy was lagging tho

[meager trail]

no shit sherlock

[undone anchor]

🤷🏻‍♂️😂

[compact island]

that was not the argument tho, tabbie is saying that there shold have been but there was not cuz crappy code issues

but Id say it was just not good timing no matter what

[meager trail]

you're saying it because you're used to play on your ping range, the timing that worked for you doesn't necessary means it will works for others

at this point idek what's true and what's not anymore, if it hits it hits, if it miss it miss

[compact island]

Im merely speaking of what I see in his client, the ms that went by since he pressed the buttons were just not many

[meager trail]

you'll definitely find someone who will hit that parry though, that's naraka for you

[undone anchor]

I'm down for both things

Parry was late anyways

[undone anchor]

Standing parry lingers longer sometimes

It also varies on the weapon, although I couldn't tell you why

[meager trail]

yeah whatever lol

when i rewatch my clips it's just all over the place, it's so inconsistent to the point i don't care anymore

and that's the game's fault, a fact that has been proven, it needed no debate

[compact island]

Hey HEY

Listen

The real question here is

How do you prefer your rice...
A - Mushy
B - Soft
C - Hard

[meager trail]

ew who eat mushy rice

[compact island]

Less judging more answering

https://tenor.com/view/gosh-napoleon-napoleon-dynamite-gif-5699289

[undone anchor]

Soft.🤔

But then again it depends on the kind of rice and the dish that's being cooked 🤔

Some kinds of rice are harder

[wary escarp]

Me

I eat rice as long it editable

and I'm hungry

[lusty cosmos]

I love all rice

But depends on the dish, usually soft is preferred

[queen lily]

can I do 211 with ~60 ping?

[undone anchor]

Yes, it should be possible

High FPS is what u need there

[queen lily]

~80 should be fine right?

[undone anchor]

Nop

[queen lily]

://

[undone anchor]

Id recommend minimum 100 on that ping 🤔

[queen lily]

so the only combo i can do it hook combo:((

try to learn some more to go solo

[undone anchor]

U might get sometimes away with 211, but mostly because of slingshots due to ms

Wouldn't rely on it, since enemy can also parry or roll out

[wise coral]

https://youtu.be/X_gKT_3DttQ?si=sLVoRmmH0HBvg_1G

211 works for me this method with high ping. I get up to 75+ ping often. Only one that wasn’t true on the training bot was staff 211, and they changed it so it’s true now too

Works with lower fps than the regular 211 as well. In the video he pulls off 35, last time I tried limiting fps it worked at 60fps

[compact island]

Agree

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/katie-cat-eyeglasses-gif-7620885761963417805

I prefer mushy when in sweet desserts and hard when salty dishes

[ashen cosmos]

What's the minimum FPS for combos? Or the recommended stable one

[meager trail]

diff combo got diff fps requirement

[ashen cosmos]

I see. How much do you recommend for overall doesn't matter for combo just for competition

[meager trail]

ig 140+ stable

[viscid kelp]

Imo you're fine with 100+
Below that stinks a bit

Not ideal for combos but you can work with it

[ashen cosmos]

Thanks, appreciate the responses

[lofty hare]

What controller control preset do yall use

[undone anchor]

Keyboard 🤔👍

[lofty hare]

😭 im on vacation and only brought my steam deck

[undone anchor]

Rip

Amazed Naraka works on it tho 🤔👍

[lofty hare]

Ya

[daring kayak]

shouldnt the blue focus after a golden attack from spear be a guaranteed parry? how come it doesnt go through sometimes

[flat onyx]

Welcome to the world of ping and fps

@meager trail

You can take it from here

[daring kayak]

its so stupid how i have to parry so much earlier when it comes to versing people with higher ping

[daring kayak]

also how did she dodge out of my combo? isnt this a true combo or did i just mess it up somehow

[wary escarp]

Good thing to note is the number of hit you have connected

In this case your F works as combo starter, so the first vertical hit is the 2nd hit of the combo

[daring kayak]

ah i see

[wary escarp]

so the 2nd vertical is the 3rd time you have hit your opponent, hence they can dodge out

[daring kayak]

okay noted, thank uuu

[soft sand]

what are the best weapons in game?

[jade gull]

Currently rn flying knives are a top contender

[cyan falcon]

Flying cheese

yaaay controller 211 ;p will master soon maybe.

[dim abyss]

damn good job

doing that at low fps doesn't seem easy

[cyan falcon]

[cyan falcon]

Im on pc.. but i started on console. I still use controller tho. Lol

I have 180- 200+ frames for the most part

The controller inputs are just kinda weird sometimes.

[cyan falcon]

Soooo funny enough i fought someone in the song bird that was using FK… we did two games i won like.. i think it was 6-2 ? 6-3? But i was like those need to be out the game theyre kinda busted..

And theyre like.. yea i could say the same about sword users.

…..

Personally ive never heard anyone say my favorite weapon LS was broken… nor Katana.

[dim abyss]

oh I see

I thought you were on console

[cyan falcon]

Not anymore! But i can do things on console too. The practice area is weird for console its hard to actually do things. But tbh, i found that in game on console its really not that bad. Everything is true and works as intended

You probably couldnt do some super crazy stuff tho.

[bitter atlas]

guys what am i doing wrong when i try to do 211 my character always charges not fast enough the bot just rolls out

[tall tusk]

Looking for the new weapon guide. I haven't play for a whilte. I really appreciate any response ❤️

[tall tusk]

Wow on controller? 😮

[undone anchor]

Got a clip of it?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Eldranicks leveled up!

[undone anchor]

Super clean

[eternal fjord]

Isn’t this just a fancy way of the reg grapple combo?

i could be wrong

[cyan falcon]

Yis

[cyan falcon]

Thanks!

[white tundra]

is it because of ping that i cannot parry standard 123 even if spam it lol

[jade gull]

Spamming is not the way

You either Dodge or correctly predict they they are going to throw the third attack

And yes ping could be an issue but don’t crutch on ping issues

[eternal fjord]

Sounds like skill issue (I’m joking)

[jade gull]

I mean yeah probably is but it honestly takes some time to learn parry timings

[white tundra]

well its obviously this but i was wondering if there was more to it

[cyan falcon]

Sorry for the late reply. Its faster. Can be useful in certain situations. It kinda feels like its a weirdish.. glitch tho.

[sinful crescent]

Is there any dual halberd main in here who is experienced?

[undone anchor]

I can maybe help, what's the problem?

[undone anchor]

Well... With the same tech u can gain infinite height technically.... 🤔😂👍

[viscid kelp]

211 and jump swapping are not the same tech

[undone anchor]

Really similar in concept tho, no? 🤔

Swap to reset jump if I recall correctly🤔

Kind of

[viscid kelp]

Not rly imo
One is a swap, dodge, cancel dodge with swap, hold; and not in any shape a netcode bug
Other is just jump, swap, hold; and acknowledged by the devs as netcode interaction they can't fix, but don't want in the game

[undone anchor]

I see 🤔

[eternal fjord]

Which is which??

[sinful crescent]

I'm having problems finding a combo besides m2 m2 up tilt down tilt hold m2

[undone anchor]

This combo ain't true. 🤔

If I understand correctly your inputs

[tall tusk]

Hello. Iam Yeji. I haven't play for a while, before I ask I want to apologize if this question is too much to ask for.

I don't have that much time to check everything that's been patched, for example the Infinite Fan Combo has removed right? 💔 🥀

And I want to push this season with the remaining days. (SHAYOL WEI ONLY & SOLO)

MY QUESTION:
Is there any meta that I should search on the Pins / Youtube / etc? What should I focus on to make me easy to step up.
Can you help me out with Top 5 Combo / Things that I should learn before jumping into Rank? (I might missed some things)

THANK YOU SO MUCH ❤️ MUCH LOVE & APPRECIATE ANY ANSWERR

[safe rivet]

Grappling hook combo is still in and the your ultimate is still one of the best for 1v1 or more situations. I'm also coming back in trying to push, that's what I've seen. Sorry it's not the best advice, Make sure yo study the new weapon

[tall tusk]

Thank you for the answer. Of course it is. But I was looking for something more advanced, for example when I started playing the game. 211 is A GAME CHANGER. And then I realize that there are Infinite Combo (Fan, Valda Bubble,etc).

Now , I have no idea what to look for hehe..

[safe rivet]

Yea I get it, alot of new souljades and the new weapon are also things I should look into to see if there is a Metta, most of my losses have been bc of enemy ults the old combos with a mixup in how blues are used

[tall tusk]

I seeee alright

[safe rivet]

Sorry I couldn't be more help, hopefully someon3 else sees this and enlightens us both lol

[sinful crescent]

It's not but if u play mind games properly ppl will fall for it

[sinful crescent]

And I mostly run duos with my freind so if we can catch someone who went too far from their teammate we can kill them quickly then their teammate

[wary escarp]

sup, long time no see

If I'm not mistaken, since your leaving, Shayol has gained the ability to throw her shield at your aiming direction, which means jumping no longer counter her. Still I might be mistaken

[tall tusk]

Oooo nice info, but I'm not using that one.. yes jumping not working 💔

[tall tusk]

yes!!

[undone anchor]

Totally correct

And she can also save the counters

Up to 3 in a row

[undone anchor]

Also, welcome back!! It's been a while!

[tall tusk]

omaga hello and thamks

[random cypress]

Whats with the greatsword fetish? What I mean is what is soooo good about the greatsword that seems many people use it.

[dim abyss]

damage and stone form stances

but if you want an honest opinion, polesword is better

it deals less damage but is far more versatile and mobile, and has stone form stances

greatsword is good at removing someone's entire health bar, or close to that, from one opportunity, especially with jades like aerial rend or earthshaker

with no need for combos

polesword can do similar damage while keeping you mobile

you can even turn around mid attack to prevent yourself from getting parried with polesword

[tall tusk]

Where are the Advanced Guide for the two new weapon? Need help..

Can anyone send me the BnB for Flying Knives?

[wary escarp]

Damage and noob stomping. Out of all the weapons, it's probably the weakest due to how predictable it is. Don't get me wrong, GS in the right hand is still dangerous (especially if that hand also using Tarka). But Polesword do Greatsword job better.

[wary escarp]

Just try it out

It pretty basic and easy to use

For chasing: Dash -> H -> V -> dash -> repeat.
For combo: H -> dodge -> H -> cV -> Grapple/drop down-> V->H->H

Also it strong af

[tall tusk]

Thanks gang for putting effort!

I have 13.000 gold

I don't know what should I get, I only play Shayol. But as you said, it's really strong wp

I might need the extreme

[tall tusk]

What is dash, seriously asking. Do I just shift or what

[wary escarp]

It has a neat mechanic where first V (throwing out knife) can interupt enemy white attack (not clashing) and guarantee a combo if you see them tumble back

[wary escarp]

Yeah just like longsword or katana

I kinda got stroke while typing

[tall tusk]

Combo not working with V H H. I tried it with pressing CTRL. But work with H H H

[wary escarp]

Weird, I can't make H H H works

[random cypress]

Ah. I didn’t know about that! 😊 I knew about the GS’ combo with pole but never knew they were decent on their own. They just seem so slow.

[wary escarp]

They are really slow but due to stoneform (the one where they block attacks) provides them safety, force opponent to guess, they are still somewhat usable. Outside of that, PS is better due to mobility of holding vertical for blue focus while moving.

I saw most people using GS/PS in a way that they can guarantee hit, which included with abilities, with teammates or using staff/spear swap combo for damage

[wary escarp]

Oh you failed the combo lmao

[tall tusk]

Really?

[wary escarp]

The bot has to stayed mid air during the combo

[tall tusk]

Wrong clip T-T

[wary escarp]

The last hit hit due to the bot dodge out but attack still connect

[tall tusk]

The first two clips is when the grapple to close..

Did you watch the whole video?

The third one does H H H

[wary escarp]

My discord cut the video down to the first 3 seconds, classic mobile discord

[tall tusk]

Ahh I see, yes the first two video failed. I showed the failed version because of the grapple position..

Cool weapon..

[wary escarp]

Yep, the third one did it

[wary escarp]

It is cool and fun to play

Not so much playing against

[tall tusk]

I tried the V H H , It's better cuz no need grapple yeah

[tall tusk]

Agreed

This one also true yeah

H (dodge) H -> cV -> V (enemy mid air) -> CH

They remove the Infinite Fan, and add the easiest TOD Weapon

Craazy ahh

[wary escarp]

It used to loop itself infinitely during test server

[tall tusk]

damnn

[wary escarp]

Yeah, I think HyperNova reaction said it all when he found out

[frigid mortar]

might be the wrong channel for that but anyone knows to get this katana skin?

[onyx loom]

🎉 | PerhapsNot leveled up!

[undone anchor]

There isn't really a good channel for this, but definitely the right place to talk about weapons, DW 👍👍

I reckon that this skin is a purple one for katana, you should see where to find it if u check the katana skins in the collection 👍

[frigid mortar]

dont have it as an option to see it from there

thats why im asking

[meager trail]

pioneer treasure

[frigid mortar]

thanks

[pastel oxide]

Hi all new player here less than 10 hours still doing basically pve. Was wondering what the situation with weapons are in this game is there like 2 weapons that is just one that everyone runs or are all weapons actually used? I tend to not be a meta slave but more just wondering how common it is to see people using different weapons

[naive plaza]

Weapons are all about preference honestly, everything in this game is viable for the most part

A lot of people will just run whatever weapon they find of the highest rarity or a weapon based on the souljades they find

Right now flying knives are very very strong and popular, and on the opposite end of an unpopular weapon would be great sword

Sometimes people will also carry a weapon just for movement, like a fan or dagger even if they don’t plan to fight with it.

So you’ll see a good variety once you enter real lobbies

[jade gull]

Then you have outlier like me who love the greatsword

Also has this move always been this bad?

[pastel oxide]

Thank you. Stil trying to figure out what I wanna play with all the weapons are so fun rn

[sly ore]

play all weapons, avoid limiting yourself to a small comfort zone

[pastel oxide]

Should I learn like a basic combo for each or just lmb lmb lmb hold right

Also what’s one mistake I should avoid as a new player

[sly ore]

basic grapple focus combo for all weapons that have one

[sly ore]

playing duos or trios without a mechanical foundation from customs and solos

[pastel oxide]

So focus solos and customs first?

[sly ore]

yeah

more context: https://youtu.be/XkUGc2wE6g4?si=y6nkQgEWRsJBTGS3

[pastel oxide]

So for solos I should just get used to being beat down over and over until I understand movement and weapons more I assume

[sly ore]

if Solos is a pain for you, just play customs first

but Solos teaches you most aspects of the game

in trios you mostly apply things you learnt elsewhere, it's not that great for learning on its own

[pastel oxide]

So one thing I keep seeing everyone say a new player should learn is focus dashing. When I try it my right click focus seems to pop even if I hit shift

[wary escarp]

do you release your right click after you hit shift or before you hit shift

[pastel oxide]

I usually release slightly before otherwise it just dodges

[wary escarp]

that's the problem

you have to release after you hit shift

Focus dashing is a combination of 2 things: Holding focus and hold dodge

[pastel oxide]

for focus dashing you basically just hold rmb the whole time then except for the few micro seconds you release

[wary escarp]

Well not micro seconds

Hold it the whole time will result in you just running after hold dodge

the release -> holding again is to go into focus again

[pastel oxide]

I think im getting it now

I still hit every once in a while but im moving a lot after and not just rolling anymore

I assume it probably takes a few days of practice to get where you consistently get it

[wary escarp]

well

once it gets going, it going fast

so you might assume it takes days but it could be 3 minutes till you click and voila

However, everyone is learning at their own pace so if it takes longer for you, just don't rush it, the more you rush, the slower you learn

[pastel oxide]

Are there certain weapons that make the focus dash harder to learn or are they all the same?

[wary escarp]

@pastel oxide one tip that I got when I started out is to do the thing, but slower, and then ramp up the speed over time

[wary escarp]

Dual Blades and Dual Halberds Horizontal focus can't be used for focus dashing because moving makes you leave blue focus state, same for Flying knives horizontal focus.

Outside of that they are mostly same

@pastel oxide Trying doing something like this. Start slow and then do it faster and faster everytime you did it

[pastel oxide]

And I assume you can only focus dash as long as you have stamina?

[wary escarp]

Well, focus dashing serves 2 purpose, 1 is movement outside of combat, 2 is to moving during combat to avoid getting stagger by non focus attack

If using for movement outside combat then using it in combination with grappling for faster movement. If using it during combat then you have to do it with clear goal in mind, which means yes, don't leave yourself without stamina.

[pastel oxide]

Got it so basically dont just spam focus dash in combat only use it 1-2 times in a row

But outside of combat use it to get around with grappling

[wary escarp]

It is more complex than that during combat. But once you get the hang of it, it will click.

[pastel oxide]

would you reccomend I just jump into solos after I understand how to get the focus dash down and imrpove by playing or should I just stay in the training grounds and keep spamming movement

[wary escarp]

I would recommend just jump into solo honestly

You deal with real situation there and can make note of anything you want to understand

You can ask later

For example when you said movement, focus dashing is only a part of the whole system, there is scale rush, grapple, air walk etc..

But explain it all to you will make you feel a bit confused without a ground to stand on

Not to mentioned movements have to serve a purpose, to escape, to chase or to fight, there are even mindgames in movement during fight alone

They all sound complex when you heard it from me, but if you fight a bit you will see that you do it subconsiously and just need mental note to improve

I ramble again

[pastel oxide]

For weapons when actualy playing I've seen people in one of my trios games just flying when my teamamte hit him but when I hit them they basically stay on the ground. I assume my teammate was likely using the upward slash thing where you crouch and hit them

[wary escarp]

Also did you know that we have 2 kind of dodge?

[pastel oxide]

interesting I had noticed sometimes my guy does 2 different dodges

[wary escarp]

Yep, uppercut or we called it cV (crouch vertical), it is a move that send opponent flying

[wary escarp]

In short, hold dodge is when you hold shift, tap dodge is when you tap shift

[pastel oxide]

I also think it doesnt help I picked Tarka Ji to play as

[wary escarp]

Hold dodge has little to no i-frames but grant you control back right after, tap dodge has a lot of i-frames but leaves you quite vulnerable at the end

[wary escarp]

Well... tbh, I would recommend against playing him if you are new, he teaches quite a lot of bad habit of relies heavily on your V(ultimate) during combat, he also has one of the easiest ToD combo (a combo that guarantee death for opponent unless they has combo breaker)

@pastel oxide about tap dodge

you can see that I has a lot of i-frames (invulnerable time) during tap dodge but if you try it, you cannot focus dashing or running after tap dodge

@undone anchor I DID CARASOUL

I mean the thing

[pastel oxide]

So probably run with someone else to build actual good habits?

[wary escarp]

tbh, I just recommend using character with F (ability) that has the text "Can be used under attack"

[pastel oxide]

I usually play brawler in most games so is there someone you recommend?

[undone anchor]

Let's goooooooooo

[wary escarp]

If you looking for someone a bit tanky and great self sustain...

[undone anchor]

Shayol? 🤔 Tessa? Valda?

[wary escarp]

We don't really had character with different amount of hp or dmg reduction

[wary escarp]

Imma said Ziping but I restrain

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[pastel oxide]

I may try out Valda when I get enough hero coins

[pastel oxide]

Aleady noticed a massive improvement in my gameplay. Even if half the lobbies are bots, i've been gravitating towards fistblades a lot but been handling myself pretty well with most of the melee weapons especially the nunchucks

[wary escarp]

Good to hear that, you can ask use if you want some combo, some weapon specific mechanic if you want

[pastel oxide]

Are there any notable combos for the firstblade? I’m trying to keep myself well rounded but I just do so much better on the fist blade than other weapons

[wary escarp]

Fistblades has one of the easiest combo

@pastel oxide For fistblades, it has a mechanic in which you can dash during focus

tap dodge and hold dodge result in different outcome

[fleet basin]

Is the [V] true combo here

I’m not sure if the bot is just stupid or not

[wary escarp]

it is true

The focus is a bit slow if I'm not mistaken, but the combo itself is true

[fleet basin]

I see thanks

I also thought it might’ve been a little slow

[undone anchor]

Full true, aside the last focus

U could consider the toothpick after the grab a bit 50/50 but overall fully correct 👍

[meager trail]

anyone know why this happens? sometime when i hold W and do a hold dodge to enter running state my character got stuck with this weird forward movement

[unreal wyvern]

i think u need to release W key then hold it down again

to resume normal movement

im not 100% sure though

[meager trail]

yeah if i do that it works but i just wanna know why is this happens in the first place

also it seems like it only happens during matches, never in penglai or training room

[pastel oxide]

Seems like a nice mechanic so you can close that small gap and still be focus charged

[pastel oxide]

Basically its left -> left -> crouched right -> right -> hold left

[wary escarp]

Left -> dodge -> left -> crouch right -> right -> right -> left

[wary escarp]

It also fully charge your focus quickly

you can delay your focus to wait for enemy whiff their parry or do a hold dodge to start combo

[pastel oxide]

For the crouch right do I have to be holding the crouch key or is it a toggle for the upward slash?

[wary escarp]

You just need to tap it, for holding and tapping, you can learn about it later

[astral pulsar]

0 damage combp🗿

[astral pulsar]

horizontal focus is lefthold right ? same with other weapon?

[wary escarp]

Horizontal is left, vertical is right

[wary escarp]

That's a good chunk of damage for a white weapon

[undone anchor]

Gray weapon aswell 🤔👍

Id say that overall it's not bad, simple and effective 👍

[dim abyss]

yes

[dim abyss]

grey weapon and almost killed her but it's 0 damage

[meager trail]

why does the blue sometimes hits sometime miss? 🥹

[trim sail]

i'm no expert but the one that missed you did some weird flick up, maybe that's the cause

[undone anchor]

[undone anchor]

Positioning

First clip you are slightly too forward

[meager trail]

i mean obviously it's distance to target that make the blue missed but how do i control it

how do i know if the blue gonna hit or miss before i send it out

[viscid kelp]

I think the easiest thing you can do is look backwards right before charging the rmb focus

heng rmb focus hold has a forwards motion
by looking backwards you can build distance rather than reduce it

smth like this

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

thank you Takao

[viscid kelp]

[tall tusk]

Why I can't do the BnB Spear anymore? But with staff I can do like 97% consistency in the game?

H CV -> Land -> V V CH H

Crouch Vertical / Uppercut
Crouch Horizontal

Need help with this.. BnB Spear I can't hit the CH anymore

Cuz the Grapple Combo only deal like 1397? The old one way better..

[meager trail]

you can do H H instead of V V

[tall tusk]

I see, after Land H H CH is the only true yes? the H at the end is soft true?

[meager trail]

yeah always have been

[tall tusk]

H CV -> Land -> H (Hit target air) H CH + H (Soft True)

[tall tusk]

Yea gang, unless they roll in straight line the aim assist gonna catch them..

[meager trail]

yea you can rubberband them

[tall tusk]

Rubberband

That's a new word for me

[tall tusk]

Yes gang, thanks for providing video. I got it

[meager trail]

as you can see the bot tried to dodge the last H but it got pulled back into the attack

that's rubberband

[tall tusk]

Yes gang

Okay gang understandable gang gang

[meager trail]

combo varied too much these days depends on your ping and fps so just do whatever the most consistent to you

[tall tusk]

Gang, send me a video for the grapple spear

[tall tusk]

yes gang gang

[meager trail]

pinned post has it

or you can just add a grapple on the combo above

after uppercut

[tall tusk]

yes gang

do i charge V or H

[meager trail]

H

[tall tusk]

okay gang gang i dont want to be lackin on any weapon, cuz sometimes game just trolling me

[tall tusk]

okay gang gang

Wow Grapple 1381

[meager trail]

i usually just do uppercut into grapple then h h jv, it's short and easy to execute and deal more damage than a charged blue

[tall tusk]

But it seems tricky for the timing , I mean maybe its because my ping or just skill issue

[tall tusk]

okay gang thanks

sometimes I do uppercut a h, j h

[meager trail]

timing and also distance from you to the target

[tall tusk]

Yes, I also grapple the body

I tried grapple far away infront of the enemy circle

target circle

[meager trail]

it's super inconsistent for me so i kinda never do it lol

[tall tusk]

Yes I tried 10. 4/10

And it could easily getting parry

if the first miss

[meager trail]

yeah

[tall tusk]

I got caught cheating by Shayol Wei because I use Justina Gu

[shut elk]

guys i have a question

[onyx loom]

🎉 | eon leveled up!
| Extra rewards were added for missing levels

[jade gull]

Yes?

[shut elk]

im having trouble hitting the focused attack at the end of like the basic combo for heng sword

[jade gull]

Grapple combo?

Or H H Uv V1.0?

[shut elk]

the one with the grapple yeah

[shut elk]

are they different?

[jade gull]

🤷‍♂️ kinda but not really

With grapple you have to buffer the input

[shut elk]

also the h dash h i dont really understand

sometimes i do it sometimes i dont

[jade gull]

As you throw grapple you should already be holding vert

[shut elk]

okok i go try

I GOT IT THANKS

[jade gull]

NP

[wary escarp]

Funny thing is, you can do H -> cV -> grapple -> H -> H -> cH for spear and staff now

[tall tusk]

wow thank u will try

[wicked socket]

Lmfao they patched the flying knives combo I was labbing while I was labbing it

[jade gull]

DB H H Uv V1.0 isn’t true right¿

Just arena being fucky?

[meager trail]

db toothpick is untrue yes but you can hit it even on combo bot sometimes

so it's no surpise if you hit it/get hit by it

[undone anchor]

V1.0?

What happened to common denotation? 🤔😂 These days I see new ones each day

[flat onyx]

In CN they use A B, so um yeah

[undone anchor]

Still, uppercut onto vertical 1.0 won't be true, no, without a grapple

[jade gull]

Happened to me in arena

Guys was hitting me with the 1.0 on the ground couldn’t even dodge out or get up

[flat onyx]

I meant the notations

[undone anchor]

Yep, I figured 👍👍

[undone anchor]

It's ping and fps lag

Arena bends the laws of logic in naraka

Too much texture around, causes FPS to randomly drop

[jade gull]

Didn’t help he was Xbox pc

[undone anchor]

Yep, didn't help

[jade gull]

need the next qol update already

[meager trail]

i mean i saw deemo does uppercutt into vertical blue on db/dh all the time

somehow sometimes it hits

but to be safe just grapple ig

[flat onyx]

Spider and Mike also do

[meager trail]

yeah

they somehow recognize when it gonna hits and when it won't (need a grapple)

[flat onyx]

CN neutral is different or smth

[undone anchor]

1 ms interactions

CN is a whole other game compared to us

Deemo explained that it worked above 55 ms before netcode update

Now it shouldn't work anymore

[flat onyx]

I saw someone jump rmb spear into a grapple

[undone anchor]

This sounds weird 🤔, but possible

If the enemy is slow

[flat onyx]

Not like 1.0 grapple

[undone anchor]

Grapple 1-2 I imagine

Treygo released yesterday a video where he does that

[flat onyx]

Maybe I’ll try that

I love spear

[undone anchor]

It's mostly untrue, I think people can roll before, since they are put in a downed state by the jump vertical

[viscid kelp]

It still does

[undone anchor]

!?!?

Sadge 🤦🏼‍♂️

Ty for the correction

[viscid kelp]

P sure I explained this before, but netcode change did not affect a very specific netcode interaction
Being that on high ping, if you uppercut close to your target, you won't go as high as on low ms. Means you hit the ground sooner, means you can charge sooner

[undone anchor]

Ah, fair

[viscid kelp]

I'm like 99% convinced it's because hit delay on high ms causes you to get stuck on your opponent

[viscid kelp]

Also people been using whatever they want for 3yrs now
I've probably seen 20 diff notation types by now

[undone anchor]

😂😂

[undone anchor]

I would imagine it's some kind of slingshot yeah

[viscid kelp]

Probably cuz high level play doesn't commonly notate combos, and esp not in a standardized way
So everyone else kinda has no reference and instead used w/e suits them

[undone anchor]

Fair 🤔

[jade gull]

Y’all using some fancy words

[dim abyss]

the fuck is Uv

[jade gull]

Uppercut

[dim abyss]

what is the U

i've only seen it written as c.V

lol

[jade gull]

My terms

XD

[dim abyss]

but what does the U mean in Uv

[jade gull]

Uppercut vertical

[dim abyss]

is there an uppercut horizontal

[jade gull]

Yes

[dim abyss]

nice

[jade gull]

[dim abyss]

teach me

[jade gull]

Dagger H 1.0

[dim abyss]

TRUE

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[wary escarp]

Has something to do with up close your character stick to your opponent height during high ping

But it is another can of worms

[bitter atlas]

so guys

what is the optimal katana and longsword combo now

im confused

[jade gull]

Just stick with the grapple combo

[flat onyx]

Optimal is to spam blue

[tall tusk]

1st : Katana double stagger Grapple Combo
2nd : Katana double stagger Polesword

[flat onyx]

Try GS

[tall tusk]

Here

[tall tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-ts-pmo-brainrot-gif-12120845080455342193

[hidden fable]

can anyone tell me how to get weapon tome?

[jade gull]

Capture the special spirit well that spawn in the map

[dim abyss]

someone know if this is true or just bot abuse

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/kmEwdTsyu2jfn4oy5?invite=cr-MSxnNUgsMTExNzEyNDA3

[jade gull]

Probably BA but let’s someone else test it XD

[meager trail]

it's true

saw this combo being used everywhere even on top CN IW matches

[undone anchor]

True 👍

Needs somewhat high FPS id say tho 🤔

[dim abyss]

thx

[stone lily]

Hello, hello ✨ I'm just here to ask when do you considere to be the best time to use your blue focus ?

When I tried to cast it, there is 70% of chances that I will get paried in the most degrading way possible-

That's also why I try to not use the heavy sword since a blue focus is cast at the 2nd attack (I tried to cancel it by dashing but I usually miss which leads to my instant death 😔)

[meager trail]

well you answered your own question: release blue when there's little to no risk of getting parried
no risk: enemies are airbone, under cc, stuck at the end frames of parry animation (when the parry effect is already over), doing a light attack, using a ranged weapon...
little risk: you're behind them, they're fighting someone else or doing something else (looting, repairing...)

[flat onyx]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y59HE32pHqU

[stone lily]

Thanks !

[wise coral]

Its true without a grapple. Just a inventory swap so no high fps needed. My ping spikes go up to 75-80s and its still true for me. I assume the pros just decide on the terrain and time constraints if they want to throw in a grapple for extra bump dmg. Also works with Calvary bloom but dragonlikemight is a no go off uppercut.

[olive valve]

hey i’m new to this 🙂 but got into the game and i’ve been practicing the combat and following youtube guides. most of the guides talk about jump and crouch parries to cancel attacks but i noticed that i’m able to counter mid-attack without having to cancel? the guides are mostly 3 years old, did naraka by then add some feautres? did the quick counter facilitate cancelling attacks?

[meager trail]

i think the guides you watched are just outdated, you can parry out of blue hold directly now without the need of jumping or crouching first

also you shouldn't refer to the blue holding state as ''mid attack'' because it's misleading, ''mid attack'' means the attack already came out and your character already did the attack animation, while blue holding means you haven't released the attack yet

[olive valve]

i was referring to white attacks, because the guides were talking about cancelling out of the 1-2 combo in order to parry

[meager trail]

weird, which guide you watched?

[olive valve]

dang i’m so new that i cant even send links yet lmao

by HK Boba called Advanced Parry and Defense Guide at arounf 3:35

[buoyant bridge]

https://youtu.be/dGLZWqXPDog?si=gjBbH6RZ6gTAYmo9

[olive valve]

i guess the main problem was, that countering resulted into continuing your combo instead of giving you a parry immediately, which has changed since then?

[meager trail]

yea no back then you can only parry by pressing both left and right click at the same time

but they introduced quick parry which you can bind parry to a single button now

yea the vid is just outdated

[olive valve]

yeah i figured, but havent found any recent guides yet and i’m trying to minimise any unnecessary button inputs which make it more confusing lol

[dim abyss]

outdated guide

i recommend u disable composite parry

in settings

and use quickparry on an easy bind to press - i use side mouse button

jump parry is still good because it sucks attacks into you more than standing parry

you are like a magnet to attacks in a way

[olive valve]

i play on controller either way

[dim abyss]

but u dont need to crouch to parry at all

[olive valve]

okay, thanks!

[undone anchor]

noted, ty for testing it out!

[viscid kelp]

Ye works
But I think the more modern version is this
Less room to mistime the 1.0 at the end, and identical dmg

[dim abyss]

ill try ty

[sly ore]

@proven island this is the one you talked about yday?

[undone anchor]

Nop, he went for a 1.0 at the end I reckon 🤔👍

Wait, nvm

[wise coral]

I was being Infinite'd yesterday in songbird(didnt hit record in time) by the same combo except instead of the jump you do at the end. They were able to hit the rmb "3" and instead of jumping they immediately rmb knife threw ( rmb 1 light attack) at me on the ground to restand me and could go right back to uppercut.

not totally sure if its true or not but I seeminly couldnt hold focus or dodge to get out from the knife restand throw

[viscid kelp]

I don't think knife rmb as restand has anywhere near enough stagger to guarantee an uppercut
So that sounds quite untrue to me
I can't say how it behaves with ping though

Did their 3rd stage rmb float you or hit you on the ground

[wise coral]

Ngl I hoped it wasn’t true the Cyra was doing it to everyone I saw in songbird and slapping us all lmao

[wise coral]

Hit me on the ground

O wait wait

I misread

3rd stage rmb hit me in the air then they would rmb light attack me while I was on the ground

[viscid kelp]

I see
Yeah knives rmb can be a true combo starter but only under very specific conditions
I don't think it should work full true as restand

But ye ping might make it soft true at least

you never know with this game

[wise coral]

I’m sure it’s got a specific timing but true it seemed a bit weird they could just infinite with no grapples or no skill involved (as in F skill not like I’m salty lol)

True I guess their ping mighta helped who knows. But it’s at least possible if anyone wants to try it in the wild

[viscid kelp]

Songbird arena is also notoriously laggy, so that p added to it

[wary escarp]

Sound like spear staff infinite fiesta. But songbird is songbird

[vague ember]

Glyph help for zai?

[jade gull]

Rage and grapple and maybe some purple if you like to parry

[undone anchor]

Depends what you want to do; safe and easy option would be rage or hybrid rage and grapple distance + speed / stamina depending on what you prefer personally🤔

[vague ember]

Can I ask why grapple

[undone anchor]

Grapple distance is useful to catch enemiel

Enemies*

[vague ember]

Never thought of that, im severely new

[undone anchor]

Also it allows to escape better eventhally

Consider that the felt grapple distance increases significantly

It's one of those things that you try once and won't be able to let go 😂

[vague ember]

Thank you, also idk if you know this but the items that dont say expired in the obtain bar does that mean it comes back? I haven't been able to find any real answer

[undone anchor]

Items such as which ones?

[vague ember]

In the pavilion the season boxes say coming soon but does that mean a return?

[undone anchor]

They can return eventually

Each season a few come back regularly for a limited amount of time

Only thing is that we don't know when and for how long, it's going to be announced in the patch notes if it happens

[vague ember]

Like this

[undone anchor]

Yeah, as I wrote above 👍

[vague ember]

Dang hope its soonish lol almost everything for zai is box locked

[dim abyss]

Those are previous chests

They bring them back every now and again

Probably gonna do it again for the anniversary in a few months

[vague ember]

I just saw it said coming soon

[tall tusk]

Is there any of u guys willing to share the current consistent jade combo for katana?

The current combo that I know is the Thunderstorm one, which is possible to add V after the Grapple Combo

I make it short

[tall tusk]

What is that

[meager trail]

what combo

[tall tusk]

The jade Katana

[meager trail]

psure it's untrue

[proven island]

Yup

[proven island]

I showed several different combos but yeah I usually do the 0.9 at the end

[sly ore]

wait, do you have to half charge the b3?

[wary escarp]

Once you get used to grapple distance, not using it is like a crime

It is more about the feel but you can get the hang of max grapple distance once you play with it enough, which sometimes result in like 100m grapple and it is really nice when you attemp escape or counter grapple a running enemy

[dim abyss]

grapple distance is a must

you will be crippled without it compared to other players in long distance movement and chases

[wise coral]

Would I be shooting myself in the foot if I raised some graphic settings and lowered my fps a bit? New fps update should have semi evened out most fps advantages right? If I run everything at low im averaging 240+fps with my lows around 200. If i raise some setting and get the game looking snazzy Im like at 180+ average with lows in the 140-150fps. 🙇‍♂️ Anyone know if that's a detrimental fps drop?

[flat onyx]

There are some things you should keep medium or high

Better check out Rustam’s latest video for optimisation

I’d say lows at 140-150 is good

You won’t lose parries or combos

But if u can get 200+, why not

[wise coral]

Because it’s not as pretty at max fps

[meager trail]

that vid makes no sense lol

well it makes sense but in term of optimize ur fps it doesn't

[proven island]

I don't think so

[dim abyss]

no

the fix isn't deployed fully

the only part that's been deployed is focus attack charging speed

your combo speed and in general attack speed is still affected by fps

so you would be shooting yourself in the foot

[wise coral]

Damn

The game looked so clean too(before it crashed on me last night for upping graphics)

Okay good to know ty Marko I’ll return to higher fps🙇

[dim abyss]

i'll let you know if i remember when they patch it fully

i also want to increaase graphics when my combo wont be affected by it

[wise coral]

The lighting alone being up to high makes such a difference visually, I forgot how good Naraka can look.

But ye all the fun settings are fps droppers

[wise coral]

or we sell a kidney and get 5090

[dim abyss]

not 5090

9800x3d

if u want real fps

[wise coral]

I built this as my first pc ever last year for Naraka, I’ve got a 7800x3d so I can’t complain. I wonder how big or small of a jump it would be fps for the newer 9800x3d

But anyways ty for fps info

[dim abyss]

not big

the biggest difference is 1% and 0.1% lows

https://discord.com/channels/750237703739539497/1306527742984061000

[wise coral]

couldnt find many benchmarks for naraka online ty this is great

[wise coral]

Anyone know if either of these are true? The first hit of dagger seems to be but not sure about the quick-dash or jade.

[wary escarp]

It stops being true as soon as the bot wake up roll

Both case can be parried

[wise coral]

Good to know ty

[wary escarp]

The best I can do is initiating combo using dagger, not using it to extend them

[dim abyss]

yep

that's correct

you can swap after dagger combo start to a comboing weapon

that's what i'd do

a dagger won't put people on edge about getting comboed as much as holding a katana or heng sword or something, so it's a good idea

[wise coral]

just found out you can get a combo start off of rmb from staff/spear. Been playing over a year now Idk why it never occurred to me to try. The nunnies one is suspicious I feel like it shouldnt be able to hit them twice after swap. I kept trying it/itkept working though . None of this is rubberbanding trickery is it?

[viscid kelp]

Ye nunny one is untrue
After your staff rmb the bot tried to dodge, but it got rubberbanded

Also maybe worth noting that staff rmb has less stagger than spear rmb, so these will always be harder on staff

[wise coral]

it felt funky thought id double check ty ty 🙇‍♂️

[royal burrow]

what I'm doing wrong?

I've been practicing for almost 1hr and can't hit a single one

Already watched several guides on yt and can't make it work

[sly ore]

spear or staff rmb into katana lmb is one of the most common swaps in the game

only db/dh katana/heng is more common

all the valdas play it, you can f2 -> camera flick -> spear rmb -> katana lmb for 6 gadzillion damage

very balanced game, losing neutral just won you neutral, congratz

make sure you have the ice jade from the event that spawns a temulch ult every 8 seconds, then your opponent can alt f4 if they aren't dead

[meager trail]

looks like you didn't buffer the blue hold
you should buffer it by holding blue as soon as you fired your grapple

[dim abyss]

yep

right here you should already be in charging animation

see when i do it, about the same moment with the bump VFX

[wise coral]

idk how common it is. Every video out there I’ve seen has db/dh into katana/heng or staff/spear into gs/ps. The rmb db/dh into sword swap isn’t true like the long handled weapons rmb swap is either. Cant wait to use this

But you’re right that bloody every other Naraka highlight uploaded is seemingly just db tech chase into a katana infinite clip🙄

When that happens to me I always think of this gif#salty

https://tenor.com/view/buzz-lightyear-gif-21327280

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/koNoiMjU3NyEg-PcT?invite=cr-MSxZUXcsMTQ5NzU3NTA

can anyone tell me where im going wrong

[undone anchor]

Can u ult faster? It looks like the enemy is falling too fast there

I might be wrong, but it could also be an effect of the patch on raw dragon🤔

It does not work on Justina, Lyam,... Anymore, so it would make sense

[ionic bluff]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/koNIJTG0f0_hPwShw?invite=cr-MSw0QkksMTQ5NzU3NTA

i mean

i get it from time to time

so is it more fps dependent now?

i dont have good fps

am i cooked

ignore my friend btw

[undone anchor]

How much FPS u have?

[ionic bluff]

erm

around 120ish

[undone anchor]

Should be fine

120 is good if stable

[ionic bluff]

not stable

[undone anchor]

What's the lowest?

[ionic bluff]

80

[undone anchor]

Yeah, it won't do

[ionic bluff]

[undone anchor]

120 is around the minimum needed ATM if I recall correctly. On 100 it should be really strict timing

But I might be wrong, maybe @viscid kelp can correct me 🤔👍

[viscid kelp]

I don't think there is any real fps requirement outside of the usual below-80-you-prob-won't-have-fun

Your slide uppercut is just slow

There is an alternative version I can maybe send in, in a bit

[viscid kelp]

TIL OBS behaves weirdly when recording Naraka in DX12

That's the alternative version, where instead of slide uppercutting off the jlmb you do a punch

Maybe it works better for ya

Other than, here a vid of the common one on 90fps

Works just fine, just gotta have good timing on the cancel between jlmb and slide uppercut

I also hold W during the first uppercut to be closer to the enemy, but idk if it rly does anything
Just a habit from when Tarka raw dragon was less consistent

[undone anchor]

ty!

[compact island]

did the FPS question hit you already?

[royal burrow]

Cool, 95% of the game r bots and now I need 120fps to combo

[compact island]

Its only like that in low ranks, when you pass gold is no longer 95% bots, the problem is how the titles work("ranks") nobody can ever stay low even if they are not learning, so literally low rank people do not exist

but the 120fps part is true, once you hit 120 all the grapple combos becomes very easy

[royal burrow]

Wich weapons doesn't need grapple combos?

[compact island]

the heavy ones

nunchuks

dagger

mmmmmm

spear

[viscid kelp]

with 211 none necessarily

and 120 is not rly a requirement for grapple combos

[compact island]

no but it make them easier, I think the lowest you can go is 85

but if your cap is 85 you are not gonna have 85 in battle

sooo yeah as close to 120 in practice mode is pretty much needed

[royal burrow]

My monitor only runs 60 😭

[viscid kelp]

Monitor is irrelevant

[compact island]

monitor is irrelevant here

the game just need to refresh fast

not the image

[royal burrow]

I'll try to figure out how to increase my fps then

[compact island]

first make sure the cap is not set to 60 in settings

[royal burrow]

The ps5 seems to care about it 🥀

[compact island]

that is what It got set by default for me, even if I could run it faster

IDK if ps5 version can uncap