🔱┃weapons-combat

[storm heron]

But to do what Tabbie did in his video, do you need a specific FPS rate? I can't do it here, the second attack always becomes a non-true, and tianHai can dodge when I throw him up

[undone anchor]

which video? i must've lost it somewhere

[storm heron]

This one

[undone anchor]

so you want to do a grapple combo?

or simply the attack-dash-attack?

which, for info, is untrue on dual blades and dual halberds

meaning the bot usually dodges out

for the grapple part you need minimum 65 fps, for the dash part there are no specific requirements

[storm heron]

It could be the way of the combo with grappler, with the other weapons I can do "hit-dodge-hit-uppercut", but with the dual weapons, I can't, I'm forced to use "hit-uppercut"

[undone anchor]

yep, cuz with dual weapons you cannot do a ADA 🤔

their uppercut animation is too slow compared to other weapons, meaning that a shorter stagger like the one after the second lmb is not long enough to keep the enemy in place

meaning that they can dodge out

this is what you can do with dual blades; only 1 attack into uppercut etc.

if u do it right u can also connect the followup focus, but it needs fps and precise camera control, which i didnt need when i recorded this clip back in the day 👍

[storm heron]

I can do this, with the Charged LMB I can only do it using the cavalry bloom T-T

I thought it would work, watching Tabbie's video there, it looks so fluid, that I started to wonder if 150fps was too little for certain combos T-T

[viscid kelp]

They never talked about a clmb though

they said crmb

which is uppercut

just written differently

[undone anchor]

mb, i missread it to crouch lmb for some reason 🤔 🤦

ty for letting me notice

[undone anchor]

nop, definitely not, unless you are going for DH heavenstep 🤔

[viscid kelp]

This is only true on some weapons
Namely katana, heng sword, nunchucks and fistblades
On DB/DH it's not true, just soft true

[undone anchor]

c.LMB is definitely crouch left mouse button tho 🤔

which is still from my mistake earlier i guess 🤔

🤦

[agile venture]

Guys, I am kylin main who is better in short range fast M1 weapons like fan dual harb or nan chuk but weapon like longsword feels especially slow so I try to avoid that but when I imperial longsword I got confused I should prefer weapon I am proficient with or the highest tier weapon for max dmg as kylin ult with imperial longsword is much stronger then purple or gold fan or such weapon

And is it me or blue charging blue focus for fan is faster then katan or longsword, whenever I get into 1v1 with fan as compared to other weapon my horizontal charged fan hits first, compared to katan hein or longsword with which it feels a lot of time to charge,

[meager trail]

red weapon doesn't increase your slash dmg that much compare to gold weapon, in fact it's very little, so it doesn't matters. If you already got a gold weap just use it
if you don't have a gold weap but purple and you want to use the purple weap for weapon fighting and red sword for V you could always put the red sword at 2nd slot and swap to it when you're about to V

[agile venture]

Is it better or let my teammate use it if he don't have gold weapon?

[meager trail]

diff weapon got diff blue charging time yes, projectile speed and hitbox are also not the same, fps and ping are huge factors too

[meager trail]

sure if you don't like to play with ls

did a quick test in training room and 1 V slash with red sword does 407 dmg while gold sword does 400 dmg so the difference is just 1.7%

almost non exist

[agile venture]

Oh, thx now I know weapon proficiency is more important then weapon tier in most cases

[meager trail]

purple and gold diff is way bigger tho

[agile venture]

Ok, got it

[undone anchor]

This is news to me 🤔🤔

Different release speed and animation for sure, but charging time should be 1.0 for each and every weapon 🤔

Minimum

[meager trail]

i guess

i don't have the data and is too lazy to do a test but some weapons just feels like it take longer to reach 1.0

also it feels like it depends on ur stance too, with some weapons a hold dodge into charge feels quicker than and standing charge

but eh with the existence of ping and fps in the equation it doesn't matters anymore

same input same timing same amount of time but some people are able to blue armor themselves while some couldn't

[undone anchor]

If u did tests in the future I'd love to know the results 🤔👍

Cuz on paper they should all take the same amount of time

Prolly, and here is just my guess, the delay is given by how much time u take to actually get in focus stance? 🤔

[viscid kelp]

The time it takes to reach 1.0 is identical across all releases I believe
There was a short period where fistblades reached 1.0 faster than all weapons, but I'm p sure that got removed

However there are definitely significant differences on hold duration

Staff/Spear can hold their releases like ~800ms longer than most other weapons, before being forced to release

[meager trail]

idk sometimes it just feels like it took me alot longer to reach 1st stage blue compare to my opponent lol
like our blues clashed then we both immediately hold again and release 1.0 asap but it did not result in a clash but his attack hits me as if i didn't release

[undone anchor]

That's a frames issue 🤔

[meager trail]

yeah so it doesn't matters while there's ping and fps in the equation

as for why i feels some weapons take longer to charge probably the weapon itself is slow as a whole so it created a placebo effect

i guess

[undone anchor]

Maybe 🤔👍

[viscid kelp]

Idk about fps, I think there might a difference between clashing and buffering the focus hold vs timing it
Like half the things in this game work better if you time it rather than buffer it

But I'm not sure

[viscid kelp]

This for sure, for example PS rmb hold feels insanely slow, but it's actually in line with other focus holds

[undone anchor]

Here I am just talking from experience by usually fighting people that have around 100+ fps more than me 🤔, I could definitely be wrong

[viscid kelp]

@wise coral Also, what is this role reversal

[viscid kelp]

Similar to how vs certain attack lines, spamming is inconsistent asf but timing works fine

[meager trail]

the thing is if ur fps is bad you have to spam it to have a chance for the inputs actually gets recognized

[viscid kelp]

Depends how low I'd say
Around 120 you're alr chilling imo

but overall the buffer system needs some work

it's very inconsistent

[meager trail]

yep that's the fps i couldn't reach

i'm around 100 in trio but my 1% low is rly bad

[viscid kelp]

o yea trios is fked for anything not high end

[meager trail]

aka lots of stutters

[viscid kelp]

or rather, it's consistent, but consistently unreliable for specific situations

and imo it makes no sense that you have to learn when it's good and when it isn't

[meager trail]

i don't understand how this game works at this point
like ls carousel or the katana uppercut into v h 1st blue

exactly the same inputs but sometimes it works sometime it just doesn't

like just a teeny weeny difference of grapple position or some frames dropped below the requirement fps for the combo and it fails

[viscid kelp]

In the end, the only thing that rly matters for carousel is where the enemy is relative to you when you do the first rmb of the rmb->lmb->rmb focus chain

But there are A LOT of factors that influence that

Sideways/forwards/backwards float, distance to enemy when uppercutting, framerate/ping, your W input

[meager trail]

yeah

i manage to get it somewhat consistent by holding A when i grapple and only let it go after my first rmb hit, also delay the rmb input abit
grapple bumped onto target then delay abit then rmb

but sometime that very first rmb just miss the target completely or knock the target too far away or come out too late and idk why
more like i know what caused it but there's no way to fix it

but i don't play solo so these combos are not really important to me
it's just funny that 100 fps with some minor stutters will make basic grapple combo fails, like, literally the most basic combo will fail on a fps that is considered good on any other games

[wise coral]

I felt cheeky today

[rotund solstice]

the amount of times i get owned by spamming is unreal..time to work more on my input discipline isuppose. thanks for the vid!

[wary escarp]

Did someone said test?

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/side-eye-suspicious-puppet-gif-2729624127692369191

[wise coral]

Was shown a inventory swap video and I've seen the light Ive always loathed the uppercut grapple on repeat combos so this is like a whole new breath of life into the game for me. There's so many variations yehAw ill never get bored with this . (only one untrue was ls into katanna thunderstorm)

[onyx loom]

🎉 | Diakoptês leveled up!

[meager trail]

you rubberbanded the bot with the spear 1st h blue btw

[wise coral]

I wonder if i was just slow(that one took me the longest to get) or if its untrue

[meager trail]

if you can hit other weapon 1st blue it should be true for spear too, bcoz spear has always had this issue

where you distance to target must be close enough else your h blue will miss

spear basic ground grapple combo also affected by this, so the distance between you and target when you hit them with 1st light attack and the grapple position is extremely important

[wise coral]

hmm okay okay ty good to know

[meager trail]

if i'm not literally kissing the target when my 1st horizontal light attack hit, the grapple combo will fail

[wise coral]

damn I do see it. Hm okok so if I dare to inventory swap(nunnies into spear was bloody hard to get) to it, I need to be as close as possible for a chance

Thanks tabbie

[meager trail]

yeah spear is just very inconsistent

🥹

the same with ls carousel and the katana uppercut grapple bump into v h 1st charge
the distance between ur and ur target after the grapple bump decides if the combo fails or success

[lusty cosmos]

Anyone theory crafting with the new weapon?

[flat onyx]

Bruh we doing inventory swaps now?

[viscid kelp]

Old tech, ppl just slept on it

Or still do tbh

[flat onyx]

Yeah cuz I feel like you don’t really need it

Is it easier to use than 211?

Concept feels the same

But having your second slot still be a ranged is prob useful

[undone anchor]

Gimme 2 days, I plan to experiment the hell out of that weapon 🤔👍👍

Just need a few hours to get the feel and explore

But u can infinite with light attacks after an uppercut if they didn't patch it 👍🤔

[lusty cosmos]

Dope

[undone anchor]

I would imagine that swaps with LS work particularly well otherwise, that uppercut is super high 🤔

So swap combos should work wonders

Also it should have a lot of swap confirms after the ranged vertical light attack

Imo it could become a better option than dB or DH to start a katana

But then again yet it's only some theory crafting, need to experiment first

[wary escarp]

Finally, staff grapple combo

[meager trail]

you can also charge horizontal

[wary escarp]

I tried, this feels more consistent to me

[meager trail]

it feels like inputs are more fluid with this patch

[wary escarp]

I don't know what am I doing

[undone anchor]

i like this

interesting

here a new nunchucks interaction

🤔

[meager trail]

CN is cooking again

dunno what's the FPS and ping required for this lmao

[undone anchor]

i think u should prolly resend it 🤔

each time i open it it shows smth different

[meager trail]

https://v.douyin.com/FqeEzhG96m4/

this works or not?

[undone anchor]

now it does, ty!

[undone anchor]

testing that combo a bit, i would say it's around the same requirements for the LS one

nvm

it works on 100 fps

[meager trail]

lmfao

[flat onyx]

oooo

[undone anchor]

super tight tho

i managed 2 repetitions in about 10 mins of trying constantly

[flat onyx]

i got more than 100 fps so this might work

we'll see

Not playing rn cuz of homework and uni

i'll check it out later

[wicked socket]

why do they got this goofy ass slide

[river beacon]

1 update = 3 new grapple combos. Nice ^_^
https://youtube.com/shorts/orVzOOLyZCg?si=JDrTHma65mPCx93f

[undone anchor]

Phantom step 🤔👍

[wary escarp]

Wave dash momento

[meager trail]

so uhh this is true or fps or ping or whatever?

[undone anchor]

ping

definitely it aint rue

true*

[meager trail]

so it's 60 ping benefit?

[undone anchor]

nah

do you knw the ping your enemy had?

that interaction should never be possible

unless the enemy keeps the hands out of the keyboard or smth weird happens

cuz they reached the ground before your bump, this means that they should always be too low to get hit by a focus attack

ah, found it

if u framecheck at the end, you see them trying to neutral getup

in the focus

basically they messed up and got hit

[meager trail]

so what did they should do to not get hit in this situation?

[undone anchor]

roll

any roll in any direction that's not forward gets them out of it

best is always going backwards, so you are sure to have i frames all the way

other directions might catch a lingering hitbox

[meager trail]

but if they roll the tarka could cancel the blue and follows with a dodge into a light

[undone anchor]

harder

especially here, that was a full on commit

if they commit that hard, it's waay harder to react to a roll

eventually just double roll and you are out even if he chases

[viscid kelp]

I remember people experimenting with it like 1-2 yrs ago

But it was inhumanly tight

Ig with ping it could work, cuz ping affects wakeup roll heavily

for both side

I managed to do it on bot once with 15ms, but I VISIBLY rubber banded the bot

[dim abyss]

That's its own thing, tech chase

[meager trail]

lmao

[unreal wyvern]

valda learning flamebringer has cooldown [colorized, circa 2025]

[meager trail]

nah

guess again

[unreal wyvern]

what is there to guess

[meager trail]

why tarka didn't get killed

and no it's not ''flamebringer has cooldown''

[unreal wyvern]

huh?

i mean he had full armor

i guess u can say valda was disabled

she had 1 more spear left

to soft combobreak untrue katana combo

and then can kill tarka for free

[meager trail]

not a bug, working as intended but guess the reason

[unreal wyvern]

its not bug

she didnt break untrue combo

thats big mistake

[meager trail]

tarka get hit by valda spear which put him under soaked status
under soaked status if you receive burn dmg it becomes hydroflare which instantly finalize the burn DOT
and this hydroflare dmg hit armor first

[unreal wyvern]

bro u need to instantly stop smoking whatever ur drug dealer gives u

[meager trail]

?

[unreal wyvern]

the soaking deals dmg directly to hp

not to armor

idk where u found that soaking deals dmg to armor first

and the flamebringer was still on cooldown

during that time

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[unreal wyvern]

it has 30 sec cooldown

[meager trail]

do you even play pvp

[unreal wyvern]

yeah, better question is if u even play the game

or just imagine mechanics

every day

LITERALLY THE FLAMEBRINGER IS STILL ON COOLDOWN

at the time valda BBQs him

so even if ur "theory" was correct

then it still literally cannot happen

due to flamebringer being on cooldown

• if ur "theory" was correct, u would see big chunk of armor getting taken out

instantly

but instead he takes gradual dmg in uniform way

i am honestly amazed how u even come up with these things u are spewing sometimes

[meager trail]

?

[unreal wyvern]

0:22 valda triggers burn

0:45 she fires on water spear

45-22= less than 30

therefore on cooldown

[meager trail]

what did i ''spewed'' that make you being this disgust?
i never claim to know everything about this game, i say what i think is right and you're free to correct me, if i'm wrong i'll admit that

but what's with your attitude?

[unreal wyvern]

^maybe u have problem with attitude

[meager trail]

it's a simple question because in pve hydroflare dmg is to HP but it might not be the same in pvp, i asked if you play pvp and is certain about it?

[unreal wyvern]

ye in fact i play both showdown and pvp, i have 6k hours on steam total

[meager trail]

i know you play showdown, that's why i ask the question

to see if you're bringing the pve mechanics to pvp

without actually experienced the thing on pvp

[unreal wyvern]

dunno i just remember our last discussion about extreme focus

where things were going crazy

[meager trail]

lol i don't even remember your name

that it's you on the extreme focus discussion

and again i said extreme focus because literally naraka wiki said the words

[unreal wyvern]

btw fun fact i even asked rivelia directly about wiki about extreme focus

[meager trail]

when you google naraka that's the thing that pops up

[unreal wyvern]

its just a term he created to make it easier to understand

states like yoto starting ult

[meager trail]

and i suppose to know this because?

if anything he's the one to blame because he listed it under ''focus types''

on a website that is called ''naraka bladepoint wiki''

[unreal wyvern]

ye but if its not updated for 1.5 years at this point

its a tad sketchy source of info

[meager trail]

but it's still there and still shows up when i google stuffs about naraka as a newcomer yeah?

[undone anchor]

what is the issue here?

[unreal wyvern]

XD

[undone anchor]

didnt lose anything important then 👍

[unreal wyvern]

indeed

[undone anchor]

was afraid there was a combo discussion going on 😆

i'm still waiting for someone to carousel with updated nunchucks

[unreal wyvern]

we combo discord with heated argument

[undone anchor]

fair point

[unreal wyvern]

it can be an infinite with good terrain

anyway @meager trail have a good day sir

[undone anchor]

carousels? not anymore i fear, they just patches that LS combo out

[unreal wyvern]

heated arguments on discord

[undone anchor]

ah....

[viscid kelp]

It's right that he didn't die because of flamebringer cooldown

The burn effect of flamebringer has an internal cooldown of roughly 30s

Which is insanely long

but also good

Jades such as assault smolder do not have an internal burn cooldown, and they can be an absurd pain in the ass

[unreal wyvern]

ye smolder is pretty bonkers

a bit underrated jade imo

[flat onyx]

another Tabbie beef

[dim abyss]

You wanna see something cursed?

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/k0uzwQjEo4nVTmFIY?invite=cr-MSw0WWEsMTExNzEyNDA3

u can now toothpick on staff

[jade gull]

[shrewd apex]

guys what do you think about this flying knives x katana/hang combo

[undone anchor]

not bad 👍

doing the combo only with katana or heng would deal more dmg, but this wins for style points

[compact island]

By the Gods, @meager trail no longer has an ugly PP, pretty sure the cat is thankful now

[compact island]

what is this nunchuk thing you are talking about?

[wise coral]

Hey guys im new, can anyone tell me why I CANNOT hit a launching uppercut off of a grapple bump? Is there a gimmick?

[undone anchor]

Nothing, at the end of the day it's not possible, I tryed it

[undone anchor]

You are most likely doing the grapple and a few inputs too slow, meaning that the bump is also going to be low, and there is no space for the uppercut

If u can share a clip, I can be more specific, what said above is the most common mistake from people that just started combos, take it as a general advice 👍👍

[wise coral]

Okay, I tried but last time I got timed out because I haven't sent 15 messages yet😂

whoops\

[undone anchor]

🤔🤔🤔

Just join a conversation in #💬┃general-chat , it should suffice 🤔👍👍😂

[wise coral]

Lol fair

Ill go do that

[wise coral]

Im free now, I just have to figure out why my outplayed doesent like this game

https://outplayed.tv/naraka-bladepoint/G40yoN @undone anchor Is this to laggy😂 😭

[undone anchor]

You are good with grapple, but wait too much before the uppercut

Need to time it, cannot pre hold

The second the bump happens, the uppercut animation should start, especially on LS it s really fluid

[wise coral]

So do I try and uppercut before or as soon as the bump hits?

[undone anchor]

Yep

You need to be waaay quicker

Try to avoid any animations windups

No need to hold any key

Just tap them at the right time

[wise coral]

https://outplayed.tv/naraka-bladepoint/gr1kLL

That is very annoying to do

https://outplayed.tv/naraka-bladepoint/m3QN4e is that optimal?, or can I extend more? @undone anchor

[undone anchor]

That's pretty much it 🤔👍

There are a few ways to modify it, but it does only add 200 dmg max, if u don't go into 211 shenanigans

[wise coral]

Ahhhh

I see

I guess thats all unless you know some yoto combos👀

[jade gull]

Isn’t it just F (combo) f finisher?

[wise coral]

No idea, Im new😭 😂

[jade gull]

Do what you were doing but start it with your ability and end it with you ability I think , @undone anchor would probably know better though

[wise coral]

What ability are you talking about? F 1/2/3?

[jade gull]

I believe f2 is the two parter

[wise coral]

F1 is tp F2 is pull into horizontal

[undone anchor]

If you want yoto hime combos I recommend checking out Longnotes' channel, since they are insane with it

But definitely don't fix on yoto specific combos as things to learn early, they are really hard to pull off and usually require also a lot of fls

FPS*

[wise coral]

Is 144 enough💀

Shes my favorite

[undone anchor]

Outside of practice tool or some custom rooms they have close to 0 utility

[wise coral]

Damn, shes cool asf tho

[undone anchor]

Sadly also insanely weak

But I agree on the fact that she's super cool

[undone anchor]

200 I would recommend for yoto combos

Especially the katana juggles

[wise coral]

Ill send a clip, thats what im working on

https://outplayed.tv/naraka-bladepoint/G40y8z Idk how to get this uppercut @undone anchor

[undone anchor]

Feasible, but u cannot uppercut there at the end

Horizontal attack float is too low for it

[wise coral]

I watched it on a video

[undone anchor]

How old is the video?

[wise coral]

1y

[undone anchor]

Anything that is older than 1y, also there depending is to be considered pre netcode patch and hence not working anymore

Cuz they changed float interactions completely last december

[wise coral]

Ahhh

Thats sad, it looked really cool

[undone anchor]

And this stands for most yoto videos, since they are usually close to her rework

[wise coral]

Sounds like they don't want me to play her😂 😭

[undone anchor]

Not really?

Not all characters are to be combo ones

She's got her strengths, mainly in her f2 followup

That golden focus is straight up op if u can use it well

[wise coral]

Yeah, I just gotta find out how to utilize it better

I do an uppercut following the golden one, but after that im unsure

Ive tried grapple bumping downwards into a horizontal charge but ive only hit it like once

[undone anchor]

Golden focus follow-up is a combo starter

U can do anything after it basically, since it has a super long stagger

[wise coral]

your talking about F1 right?

or F2?

[undone anchor]

F2

F1 is meh

Good only when in huge fights, since it resets with kills and assists

[wise coral]

Damn, ive only practiced with F1

I like the uppercut

[undone anchor]

That being said, I got to go, see ya in a few hours 👋👋👋

[wise coral]

Alright see ya, thanks for the help

[bold creek]

easy katana - new weapon combo

[dim abyss]

turn down ur shadow and model accuracy graphics settings for more fps

those are the cpu heaviest settings

[zenith ravine]

so did the weapon swap change just completely remove the db katana swap

[compact island]

what was the carousel with LS?

was it the one that failed cuz of the jitter in melee track?

[undone anchor]

1-2-3 while juggling the enemy in the air?

it's still feasible

[compact island]

yeah that one

so not even the first time works?

[undone anchor]

it does work

u cannot chain carousels after the first one by grapple bumping

just that

on nunchucks u simply can't do it; neither attacks float the enemy

[compact island]

ah okay

yeah thats fair

[radiant parcel]

Throwing knives are so much fun high keeyy

[compact island]

Do red armor has any special property or is just a bit more HP?

[lusty cosmos]

just an extra bar

[compact island]

[meager trail]

i did a dodge parry man 🥹

[undone anchor]

Parry not active when u got hit

U were only at the beginning of the animation, no flash was there 👍🤔

It was tight indeed tho

[jade gull]

😅

[vital marsh]

He probably pressed parry on time, just stolen because of delay in animations. Which software do u use to repeat the clip in slo- mo ?

[meager trail]

premiere pro

[vital marsh]

tyvm @meager trail

[dim abyss]

ye the parries are shit

but there are 3 stages of the parry that happen one after another

first ur character does the animation, then the character glows red, then there is a red flash in front of your character

your parry is only active when the red flash is finished

it's shitty, but that's how it works

[meager trail]

i know

[dim abyss]

all robbed parries can be chalked up to the red flash

every time it makes me swear at the screen but it is how it is

[meager trail]

what i'm saying is the red flash happens early or late depend on the ping

[dim abyss]

yeah

the higher the ping

the later the flash

that's why 10ms players can parry on reaction

a lot of attacks

[meager trail]

and although dodge parry is the fastest parry in the game

when i reached a certain ping even dodge parry won't work anymore

on my clip my ping is 80-85

at this ping everything must be done by guessing

can't react to anything

which sucks

[jade gull]

[meager trail]

i'm forced to play the game with predictions alone

and that put me on massive disadvantage because we all know what happens when you do too much predictions not to mention predictions alone

keep predict parrying 1st stage blue and i gonna ate alot of lights

[jade gull]

Predict the predictions

[meager trail]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[jade gull]

Yes

I was trying to find the sao gif but couldn’t find it

[meager trail]

it doesn't even need to be at 80 to be bad

at 50 i can't react parry a ps stoneform release

and sometime even a 123 is impossible to react parry

like, i don't get it
in which world having 50ms ping on an online game make the game not working as intended

[jade gull]

Hell I’d be lucky to get stable ping but no it ranged from 51-119 smh

[meager trail]

oh let me tell you about unstable

[jade gull]

Oh boy

[meager trail]

my fps showing 100-120 but my 1% low is 20-40

my ping? someday it could be 45 but someday it'll goes over 100

[jade gull]

[meager trail]

but ig about the fps that one on me cuz i couldn't afford a high end pc

but the ping though

[meager trail]

like they shipped this game to global, telling us 1 to 100ms is green ping range

but in reality

[jade gull]

In reality we’re fcked

Yesterday I had a ping spike and it read 1354ms and I was like WTF cuz it didn’t dc me

On a side note does anyone know how weapon XP is calculated is it on kills or damage?

[undone anchor]

Here you go

[jade gull]

You the man XD

[undone anchor]

😂😂👍

Got Ur back homie

[meager trail]

both

if you want to farm weapon lv go showdown

i run gelid yushan normal, took me like 10s to kill the boss

1k melee and 500 ranged exp ez

[jade gull]

I need the ranged xp it takes sooo long XD

I just want the musket avatar cuz it looks clean af

[meager trail]

yeah just run showdown
even if you deal 0 dmg with ranged weapon you still get xp

[solar maple]

So how do people feel about the new weapon?

Where does it rank

[jade gull]

Pc god tier, console meh

[solar maple]

that’s nice. I play on a laptop using controller so probably meh for me too

Thank you

[wary escarp]

My personal record is over 9000ms

[jade gull]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-its-over9000-gif-14419267

[jade gull]

sorry to good to pass up XD

[wary escarp]

I know, I could have said 9000

[frozen citrus]

genuiine question how do you beat a Shayol Wei, she just blocks everything do i just let her Reset fully and wait for the ult to go away?

[wary escarp]

I remember people talked about using vertical advantage

after her block, you can avoid her counter with jump and grapple to avoid getting caught. Outside of that, if you playing team mode, using range while having someone pressure her V also help since she takes more range damage during her block

I might be a heck lot out of touch since I haven't played this game for 3 months but I hope it help

@undone anchor help if you can

[undone anchor]

It's well explained; only thing I'd add is to try and mainly dodge the followup, since after the buff she has away more room to hit you since she can aim and delay it 👍

Tap dodges work best

[deft snow]

This doesn’t apply anymore since she can aim it since a few patches ago.

[sly ore]

run away for her entire ult, parry and shoot her without staggering her, burn or poison her, or deplete all of her blocks and try to guess when she uses them

if you parry her and she still has blocks and your plan isn't to deplete them all, make sure to only shoot her

you can also apply hard CC like temulch F or viper stun

gives you some free hits, but only while that CC applies

[flat onyx]

This is a super cool ult with lots of interactions

Run away

[white tundra]

somebody with halberds sooo hard to catch 😳 or some dudes are just extra slippery...

[meager trail]

if they got dragonlike might they move fast yea, but to quick escape fan/dagger is the best due to their extremely fast scale rush animation

[flat onyx]

people with dragonlike might be moving diff fr

[meager trail]

😂 yea

[undone anchor]

DH are fine until the enemy does not have dragonlike might 🤔👍👍

Just takes some time to adapt

If they got the jade, on the other hand, a lot of prayers might help, togheter with a ton of grapples

[bitter atlas]

which ranged weapons do u guys lie

like*

[flat onyx]

Canon

[undone anchor]

Bow and pistol are usually considered the better ones for solos ; team modes cannon also has an emergence

[wary escarp]

Throwing knives

[low oar]

@undone anchor

https://youtu.be/OIGm4f4ug20

im back, was asking ab how to do this the other day

[undone anchor]

the grapple position aint precise

you are waaaay too much to the left

some are a bit weird, but if you are doing such an attack it means that you are inputting too early

[low oar]

how do u get a uppercut to come out of a grapple bump tho

[low oar]

cuz if i do it early it doesnt uppercut and if i wait it doesnt lauch them again

[undone anchor]

this is how it should be

you need to time it precisely

the grapple position impacts the following grapple bump, meaning that if it's done correctly you will have the time to, if not, the enemy will be too low and you wont have the possibility to double uppercut

holding crouch all the way after the bump helps me usually, until the second uppercut is off

but then again, timing is key here

and try to keep the grapple as centered as possible

[low oar]

is there any grapple setting i need to change

cuz i feel like where it lands for me is not consistent

[undone anchor]

You can do it with any grapple setting

What grapple settings change is what you have to press to release it

Mostly for combos and gameplay people prefer the middle option, but all work

[low oar]

wasnt sure if the aim assist setting would effect it

okay

[undone anchor]

Nop, default settings are fine usually

Then again, there are a few tweaks u can do, but I don't remember the exact names, would need to open up the game to check

But they are minor things

[low oar]

ugh

do u think its easier to line up with something that isnt default grappler lol

istg i cant see anything in this games practice range

[undone anchor]

i personally find it pretty easy tbf

the gray circle under the enemy is pretty visible usually 🤔

[compact island]

You need to wait for char to touch the ground is not like the blue hold that you can buffer, you cannot do a launcher in the air but you can blue charge in the air, so the buffer will not carry you here

[low oar]

maybe it’s cuz i’m at like max graphics idek

i never turned them down cuz i get over 300fps in game but maybe i should

[low oar]

i don’t buffer the blue attack either

i’m pressing it as my character hits the ground but it was just giving me the vertical slash so i assumed i was doing it late so i tried doing it earlier and then i was getting aerial attacks

the uppercut has not come out once in my 2 hrs of trying to do it

i don’t think it has anything to do with my grappling, even tho yes it definitely could use work cuz i just started the game

i just don’t understand the timing or if there is an input im not doing right

[compact island]

you should buffer the blue atk

[compact island]

this is because you are pressing the crouch before time

as I said you cannot buffer much here

you do not press em at the same time

you first crouch then next frame you vertical, if you crouch too early you will get normal vertical if you press vertical too early you will get aereal

[undone anchor]

Go lowest

[wary escarp]

Weird thing I notice while doing this is holding A or D when you attempt to do uppercut after bump will result in situation like this. Try doing it without holding A or D, if your timing is precise enough, it should work

[undone anchor]

A or D should not impact that much 🤔

i've never used them and it always worked

its mostly timing

[wary escarp]

Well, then try it

Use them and see for yourself

[undone anchor]

i was just booting up the game to do so 👍

[wary escarp]

For me it is harder to do uppercut compare to just timing

[undone anchor]

definitely always here to learn new things if i can

[undone anchor]

been trying it for a while; it's prolly force of habit, but a / d keys make it harder to uppercut quickly

cuz they put you faster on the ground it feels like, but at the same time they slow the crouch input for some reason? 🤔

then again i might just not be used to it yet

[wary escarp]

Idk how but doing an uppercut & grapple

With A/D it seems to hold you in the grapple animation longer while without A/D quicker (but result in rolling)

Might just be my mind playing trick tho

[bitter atlas]

whats an easy weapon to main first. is dagger easy? that looks cool

i was thinking ls,katana or dagger

there is no bad weapons right i hope

[compact island]

I would say Spear is a good one

[undone anchor]

nop, all weapons are viable 👍

i would recommend maybe starting with katana or longsword from the ones you mentioned, mostly due to the fact that they are more "basic" and you can practice neutral and hold checking better with them 👍

but aside from that, anything that feels cool is worth learning

[sly ore]

katana is the best weapon for new players

it teaches all the important concepts, and you won't overrely on OP special mechanics

it's considered the training weapon and perfect for that purpose

it's not recommended to main dagger as a new player

it has many unique properties that don't carry over onto other weapons, so if you onetrick it, all other weapons will feel bad, and you first have to unlearn dagger habits before learning other weapons

i learnt the game on dagger and i wouldn't do it again if i could start over

[low oar]

my character rolls

[wary escarp]

There is greatsword and katana (Greatsword because Polesword is better and Katana because Heng is better. Still they both viable in good hand)

[wary escarp]

You have to get the timing down

[undone anchor]

This only happens if u press w 🤔👍

A and D are usually a help to cancel the roll on a bump

[low oar]

yeah that’s why i hold A

i use a wooting keyboard so i think my
key activation is too sensitive to not hold A lol

cuz i’ve tested and even if i grapple and take my hand off my keyboard i still roll so idk

[undone anchor]

Without any input you will roll

Also

If you are not precise with the crouch vertical input

Cntrl +w tapped quickly during the grapple will also remove the roll btw

[low oar]

i know so why would i not hold a

that other guy told me it makes it harder

[low oar]

yeah i figured that out

assumed it’s just easier and more consistent to just hold A

[undone anchor]

Yep

[undone anchor]

In my opinion it makes it harder indeed 🤔👍

But it's viable

[bitter atlas]

thanks everyone is there any content creators i can watch to learn more.. i dont really know where to from here and scared i pick up bad habits

[undone anchor]

dw bout that; as for streamers, MasterDeemo, DunkingDonuts are for sure very good, since they are pretty good at explaining

aside from that, i recommend checking the pinned videos, there are some good tutorials

and, once you feel like you are a bit better and confident, you can check pros from nbpl 👍

(which is pretty much the world cup)

[unreal nebula]

Are some combos restricted by ping wall?

[meager trail]

all combos are

[unreal nebula]

ouh
any combo recommendation with my 50 avg ping? coz the only combo i can do perfectly is just grapple blue focus

[meager trail]

same

[naive plaza]

I have a wooting as well and I just don’t touch directional inputs when doing the basic grapple combo without issue. I never roll on my combos so I don’t think the keyboard is at fault, but since it is very sensitive you might be activating a key press without meaning to

[naive plaza]

You should checkout Prosp3rs stream, he’s a combo player with 60ish ping. A lot of combos are still available at that ping but some do require high FPS

[unreal nebula]

okk thanks
btw about fps, does it means having low input lag?

or does it has to do with fps like in rival u get higher damage

[naive plaza]

In naraka your animation speed is tied to FPS. So some of the more complex/long combos aren’t possible below a certain FPS threshold since the animations won’t play fast enough even if your inputs are correct

[unreal nebula]

is that the reason why most player moving so fast?

[naive plaza]

if youre low fps and see someone who has 300+ yeah it will look like they are moving too fast

but a common cheat in naraka is also micro acceleration, which speeds up animations

hard to tell if someone is just nasa pc or if they are actually moving too fast

[unreal nebula]

my fps is around 80-90 is it considered low?

[wary escarp]

You have 50 ms ping?

[wary escarp]

You have that much fps?

But yeah 80-90 is considered as quite low

[unreal nebula]

ahh alright

[undone anchor]

Double uppercut and carousel should work there aswell

Hence most xombks

80-90 FPS stable, u can do the double uppercut, but carousel won't be consistent

[solar gorge]

Anyone here knows how to hit a grapple restand?

[wary escarp]

What is a grapple restand?

[solar gorge]

Is like when your opponent is on the ground u grapple them and force them to restand to hit another combo on them

[undone anchor]

That's not a thing in naraka

Grapples don't restand people

[solar gorge]

Its hard for me to explain what the combo is but what im trying to do is this. Ignore the dual blade 2 focus attack https://v.douyin.com/IGz5qxDlV_0/

The link is a Chinese tiktok btw

[viscid kelp]

I can maybe watch the vid later once I'm home, but for Eranicks, a grapple restand refers to restanding an enemy through whatever means and staggering them with a grapple before they can defend themselves (for example through dodging)

It doesn't mean the grapple is what actually restands them

[low oar]

yeah i didnt mean it was the keyboards fault, i just think maybe it is very sensitive lol i have everything at the lowest cuz i compete in valorant

[solar gorge]

Wokies

[undone anchor]

👍👍

It seemed indeed a weird thing to ask

[undone anchor]

Now this is interesting 🤔🤔

It might have been patched out as a side effect of recent grapple changes (last patch, they delayed it after certain inputs in order to avoid things like the carousel infinite on LS

[solar gorge]

ahh... i see i see...

[undone anchor]

not sure of it tho; better wait takao's answer 👍

he's the expert

[solar gorge]

alrighttyyy

[tall valve]

Wait how are they doing animation canceling so fast weapon swapping bouncing attacking like that? Jump>swap>crouch>lmb?

[undone anchor]

What combo?

Or better said, what instance?

[tall valve]

At 00:40 of that video

[undone anchor]

It's pretty standard 🤔

All swaps are instant, but you need to wait for the right timing

An optimal example would be 211 (double swap Combo that allows a focus attack after an uppercut without using grapples)

You swap once at the tip of the uppercut (end of animation), dash, swap again cancelling the dash

Basically you can swap weapon when in what I would love to call a "resting status" (character doing nothing with the weapon)

You get this by jumping, since it resets your movement, dashing, crouching,...

In all those moments you can swap a weapon

That or at the end of an animation

[tall valve]

[undone anchor]

The swap they were doing in the video is mostly timing 👍

Some other people that can most likely write this in better words will prolly correct me in a while to make everything clearer, sry if it's a bit tortuous 😅)

[tall valve]

I’m newish trying to learn the techs of combos and tricks

[undone anchor]

https://youtu.be/rgrYvPasgrU?si=pdZbTm9hl-37_RRh

https://youtu.be/MrON5hzVTe8?si=WGeSzZ3D9wZUempo

Here some swap guides

I would recommend starting from basic grapple combos tho, it's a more basic step

Swap combos are usually less effective and harder to execute

#🔱┃weapons-combat message

This is a good starting point

[tall valve]

I have the basic grapple down mostly, just trying to figure out how to do some of the faster animation things

[undone anchor]

Faster animation things?

[wise coral]

Can someone with lower ping test if this is true? I can 211 with staff but its not true on the bot at my ping. Want to see if its the same for spear

[wary escarp]

You can just try grapple combo for spear tho

If you have low ping and good amount of FPS, you can just grapple -> H focus

[wise coral]

ty I am able and don’t want to lol. I prefer inventory swaps and 211s Haven’t seen 211 with a spear yet, want to see if it’s true or not with a proper ping.

[flat onyx]

usually if grapple is true 211 should be too

[undone anchor]

It is feasible, you seldom see some in nbpl

Timing is tight tho, due to slower animation

As for grapple combo, I'd personally always recommend it if you can do it. The bump is quite a lot of extra damage

[dim abyss]

u dont need to 211 on staff anymore, u can do grapple combo with vertical focus

it's much easier

and objectively higher dmg

you can even toothpick on staff now which is trippy

[undone anchor]

Still think is soft true 🤔🤔

[dim abyss]

worked on combat mode bot

[undone anchor]

Depending on ping and fps some soft true things can work 🤔

[dim abyss]

https://medal.tv/games/naraka-bladepoint/clips/k0uzwQjEo4nVTmFIY?invite=cr-MSw0WWEsMTExNzEyNDA3

bot always dodges the basic soft true dagger combo

[undone anchor]

Cuz 1 horizontal from staff is 2 hits, meaning toothpick is 4 hits

[dim abyss]

didnt dodge this one

it might just be a super super tight true combo

it works 1/10 times for me on the bot

[undone anchor]

4 hits don't allow for an uppercut usually, especially a slow one such as staff 🤔

[undone anchor]

For me it does not work at all

[dim abyss]

fps

[undone anchor]

100%

[dim abyss]

we know fps increases animation speed

[undone anchor]

A true combo always works tho 🤔

[undone anchor]

Yeah, it might reach those ms needed to close the gap 🤔

Under 150-200 nothing can be done I fear tho

Consistently tho

[dim abyss]

then put it in the same bin as spear grapple combo

[undone anchor]

Yep 🤔👍

😂

[dim abyss]

fun to showcase

never use in matches

[undone anchor]

As most combos 😂

[wise coral]

Ty for info that spear 211 works and thanks but no thanks I refuse to uppercut grapple if I can help it. Naraka to me is more than that bloody same comb with every weapon on repeat I’d rather hit a staffuppercut into gold fan jade or nunnies into Calvary bloom, ect.

[viscid kelp]

I don't think it has anything to do with fps at all

You're very likely just rubberbanding the bot

which is possible on any fps

I could do 5 katana lmbs into uppercut on bot with like 150fps

Which is very obviously insanely untrue, but if you catch the right windows, you just rubberband it

[undone anchor]

Yeah, but can't compare that to a LS heavenstep 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

Satisfaction is on another level there

[wise coral]

to each their own I guess

[undone anchor]

Yepyep 👍👍

[dim abyss]

that's a thing?

hilarious

so this is not a true combo, that was trippy

[viscid kelp]

ya

[viscid kelp]

Input wise this is a very tricky one
However if the enemy doesn't have really high ping, they should be able to hold focus after the DB rmb, and thus avoid the grapple stagger

So I don't think it's worth learning

[solar gorge]

what is DB?

[solar gorge]

ah alr alr

[viscid kelp]

Dual blades

[solar gorge]

ahh

[maiden jacinth]

Can you please help me with counter grapple? I can't understand this technique. If i just grapple my enemy right after he did it just doesn't work

[wise coral]

If they are holding focus, lit up with the blue light, light attacks and grapples don’t stagger. So they are probably holding rmb or lmb when you grapple them, then grappling you back mid air as that’s when you are vulnerable.

[undone anchor]

It's a right window, you pretty much need to grapple him when he's still in the grapple

If in blue focus, as they said before, you won't stagger them

[zenith ravine]

is this combo still possible: H SV SV JH H H FH

[undone anchor]

Wym by sv?

[zenith ravine]

just like slide uppercut

i just didn't know how to abbreviate the notation

and i'm referring to the katana

i saw some vid from 10 months ago but idk how dated it is

[undone anchor]

U cannot chain 2 slide uppercut on a row without weapon seap

If you swap or sheathe the katana u can

I got a clip of it, but I need to get home first

[viscid kelp]

You can

[undone anchor]

!?!?

Since when!?

200 FPS? 🤔

(good to know actually 🤔👍)

[viscid kelp]

Since always

idk any requirements tbh

Used to be easier though, like kinda anything

[zenith ravine]

lemme link the vid

[viscid kelp]

As for the specific combo, idk

[undone anchor]

Cuz ever since netcode I was never able to do it without any swaps 🤔🤔

[zenith ravine]

https://youtu.be/1ktzKh_DYIA?si=bo17YismzuFQQn6W

8:54

[austere zenith]

Its possible but its the timing of the uppercut if they are high enough. Happens in my duels on ps all the time

Should of clipped it lol

[viscid kelp]

It does still work, but I don't believe you'll get it to work in the way it was shown

Bot wasn't in dodge mode, as shown at the end, cuz I'm too lazy to get a good enough float for it to work on bot

Full focusses after floats are like 10x easier on players compared to bots anyway

That being said, for it to work you need to allow your character to start dropping after the slide uppercut, then aerial lmb

otherwise you simply won't reach the ground in time

[undone anchor]

[zenith ravine]

wow tysm

im gonna ttry this later

[meager trail]

or healing while moving

[white tundra]

chat.. this is the closest ive ever been so help me out - wuts wrong?

[undone anchor]

There is no dash

You swapped while falling, meaning that the focus started only when you where on the ground 👍

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1253390266010697808/1361405646255427806/100_fps_godstep.mp4?ex=67ff4c0f&is=67fdfa8f&hm=732a5c5ed689352d99e944b972c75bdf7a55d376e11bc50314e0911877e50e6b&

[white tundra]

tap or hold dodge doesnt matter?

[undone anchor]

This is a similar concept

[white tundra]

im trying to input it in there

[undone anchor]

It should look like this, except that you don't light attack but hold focus

[undone anchor]

Always hold dodge when doing combos

[undone anchor]

It's a tight timing 👍

Personally, after the initial swap I input 2x quick hold dodges, it helps me set the timing correct. First one will be ignored, second one executed

If done correctly

Otherwise it's just a matter of finding the timing to input the dodge and then try to cancel it as soon as possible with a second swap

[white tundra]

ok ok my brain is toasted from this, but within a week ill get it... 🫡

[undone anchor]

For sure

I had my hands cramping when I was learning it 😂😂

[white tundra]

yeah but its cool, like a month or two ago i couldnt even put my head around it

[undone anchor]

Good good that you are learning then 👍👍

Swap combos are always harder than basic grapple ones

[silent narwhal]

Why do i keep rolling after i grapple even though I'm not pressing any directional keys

[onyx loom]

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[jade gull]

You can prevent that by holding with left or right, as for why idk sticky keys

[undone anchor]

You will always do a roll after a grapple if you do nothing. Either hold the focus already during the grapple animation to overwrite the action(kind of) or a/d or press quickly cntrl. + W during the grapple

[wise coral]

I am assuming this was a bug and wasnt supposed to happen? or can you just jump and H to track a dashing justina?? Not a hacker dont ban me I lose to the lyam 3sec later

[viscid kelp]

You won't always roll if you don't do anything after a grapple, no

On very high ping I think this is the case, but on low/medium ping, as long as you don't input ANYTHING after grappling (and don't input any movement key during the uppercut), you won't roll

[viscid kelp]

LOL
I'm not surprised, although I have not ever seen this interaction before
Melee aim assist never made much sense

[wise coral]

I was so confused i just stopped for a few sec and died to lyam lmao(also he beat me but thats neither here nor there)

[meager trail]

lmao the melee aim assist for aerial attacks

someone posted a similar vid before

a jump parry that follows spear dragonslayer all the way

[wise coral]

i was tryna wep swap off the uppercut into charged gs I dont even really think I jumped. Game 100% took over for me

[wise coral]

[undone anchor]

30 ms i always roll tho 🤔

[meager trail]

i mean you did an uppercut

your character state is airbone at that moment

i never encountered this before though, interesting that it could happens

[wise coral]

I was holding rmb tho for my combo I wouldn't have pressed lmb to stick slap. But true, melee air assist doesn't care how you got there just that youre mid air

[viscid kelp]

On same ms I just showed you don't though

Or rather you don't have to

[wise coral]

Me neither now im going to be tempted to try it on justinas and end up throwing

[undone anchor]

yep i knw

this is why i said it's weird 🤔

or better, thought it is

[silent narwhal]

Just Canada gaming I guess

[meager trail]

if you press w when grappling you will roll

otherwise no you won't

[lilac forge]

Does anyone have tips on grapple bumping in the air instead of on the ground ,I can’t seem to hold fast enough?

[jade gull]

You’ll have to buffer the input, hold as soon as you throw the grapple

[icy wind]

anyone have tips on knows how to horizontol > duck > horizontal?

does that work only on katana?

[meager trail]

h > hold crouch > tap crouch > h

start slow at first then speed it up until you could input tap crouch and last h almost at the same time

[icy wind]

oh my

thanks!

whats the benefit though

u don waste stamina?

[meager trail]

yeah

[compact island]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-sigh-gif-5895699729383201961

[icy wind]

what about weapon switching?

is just literally switching and slash again?

or is there any other inputs i have to cancel with

[meager trail]

there's a tap crouch in the middle

attack > tap crouch > swap > attack

[icy wind]

oh my

thanks!

was wondering why my swap is so slow

[meager trail]

yeah the mechanic behind it is if you input swap while tap crouching your character will stand up immediately

[icy wind]

i seen people only main do with dual blades + katana

does it work with other weapons?

[meager trail]

it does, but you do it with db + katana because it's an effective combo

db v has long reach and is good at catching your opponent

[icy wind]

does it work with halberds?

[meager trail]

but the stagger is short so you can't start a combo off it

so you swap to kata and do a h which has long stagger for a combo start

[meager trail]

it does

but db also has the follow up v blue after charged v blue

so the combo is db v > swap > kata h > uppercut > grapple > swap back to db > 1st charge vertical > vertical

for maximum damages

[icy wind]

oo

[meager trail]

that's why the db kata/heng combo

[icy wind]

i am doing in bot, but it seems like is able to dodge away

i am just not doing fast enough?

[meager trail]

yeah db kata swap is untrue

so bot with dodge on can dodge it

but it works against player

[icy wind]

i see

thanks a lot for the tips

[meager trail]

yw

[icy wind]

whats the type of dodge to dodge behind greatsword users?

i am having hard time staggering greatsword users

[jade gull]

Honestly just try and parry them out of stone form or release and attack with a higher focus level

[jade gull]

Tap dodge

[flat onyx]

They nerfed it, no more

[icy wind]

i see..

[icy wind]

but i have to be really close to them, in order to be able to dodge behind them?

[jade gull]

Get them into SF then dodge behind them

[icy wind]

ok ty

[torpid trellis]

is heng v-h-h-uppercut true or is the game once again taking the piss?

[meager trail]

v h is true, after that no

[torpid trellis]

great

[bitter atlas]

any reccomended weapons to learn

[jade gull]

Katana/heng gs ps for neutral Longsword katana DBDH for combos
dagger/fan for movement
Fist/knifes for zoning and mind games
Staff and spear for learning weapon ranges

Am I missing any?

Tbh you should learn a little about them all

[vocal silo]

how do i grapple with spear/??

[dim abyss]

All

[dim abyss]

Need 200+ fps or dont bother

For consistency

U do it with the horizontal focus

[meager trail]

or you can just do grapple bump > h > h > jv

more damages

[dim abyss]

That is new

Ima try that

I just do double jump h

[meager trail]

yeah old recommended combo is h h ch

but i found out h h jv does more damages

still true

more consistent too

[undone anchor]

Dmg wise h. v. c.H. jump H. Should be the optimal for spear

[undone anchor]

Can't be followed up by the crouch tho, u lose out on 3 hits and about 200+ dmg if I recall correctly 🤔👍

[meager trail]

follow with what?

[undone anchor]

The entire follow-up : crouch horizontal into jump vertical

After h - v

[meager trail]

what are you even talking about

[undone anchor]

????

[meager trail]

?

ok how do you do spear grapple combo?

h cv grapple then what

[undone anchor]

#🔱┃weapons-combat message

8 sec

U can do that follow-up after the uppercut also after a grapple bump

[meager trail]

i'm not even bother to try that combo

[undone anchor]

Why

[meager trail]

the v after first h hitbox is whacky

[undone anchor]

Never had issues with it TBF 🤔🤔

[meager trail]

i do so what's ur point

[undone anchor]

No point, I'm wondering what u mean. Wasn't attacking you nor anything

Just asking so I can learn better 🤔🤷🏻‍♂️

And exposing my point

[meager trail]

well it's like the ls carousel again when you had no issue with an immediately v after grapple bump but i do

[undone anchor]

FPS and ms differences then I would imagine 🤔👍👍

[bitter atlas]

hi wahts dbdh

[jade gull]

Dual blade and dual halberts

[bitter atlas]

thanks i needed a rundown of the unique specialities of each weapon

i feel like im at a lost on what to work on

'

i think my neutral is decent i tend to hold check to just see what opponents do

but my combos knowledge is very bad right now in the heat of the moment cant do one for shiz

[undone anchor]

Make a list of the weapons that interest you the most to start with ; if we were to go all over each and every one it would take a while 🤔😅😂

[vocal silo]

ty, i was just waiting for reply but i fall asleep instead 👌

[dim abyss]

good morning

[wary escarp]

He said H->H and then instead of cH you do jV

[undone anchor]

Yep, it's 2 different combos 👍👍

[wary escarp]

wdym by can't follow up

That 2 combo, not 1

[undone anchor]

??'

we talking about the spear combo, basic one

you can either to horizontal into horizontal and then jump horizontal or, horizontal into vertical into crouch horizontal into jump vertical

two different combos, two different possibilities

we were discussion about which one was more worthwhile doing

[bitter atlas]

whast bout ranged weapons guys

got any one of them ur favs

and why

[lusty cosmos]

Musket, pistol, bow are good for their quick damage output. You can switch to it, shoot, switch back very fluidly.

In team modes you can use any ranged weapon tbh

And cannon is really good too, just a bit slow and not as long range

[bitter atlas]

thanks

[lusty cosmos]

Also it's always worth to have a flame bringer with you. Great for third partying and also countering healing.

[dim abyss]

i prefer bow

it stuns on headshots

musket is good too

musket shots can't be deflected like arrows

but it has different projectile speed and trajectory so learning to use these weapons are separate skills

bow just feels much more consistent, i think musket has first shot inaccuracy where it won't hit the same pixel on every shot even if you don't move your mouse

[bitter atlas]

thanks guys

[stray mason]

Is this a thing? DB are grabbed the gold one with the mechanical arm and the blue one with the other hand

But in game it changes position??

It happens even with Extreme skin, but not with the fork one

[dim abyss]

that is just how the skin looks

it has nothing to do with Hadi

[undone anchor]

It looks cool tho 🤔😂👍

[stray mason]

I mean, why the skin is like that and the other one doesn't

Not like a hadi's problem, but the skin

[undone anchor]

Which other one? Also not sure I understand the question

U don't like the fact that they are swapped while in game? 🤔

[dim abyss]

extreme and the legendary u showed are just like that

one blade is different from the other

[stray mason]

First two images, hadi holds the gold DB with the gold mechanical arm
But you enter to a match and swaps the skins with no reason

[dim abyss]

others are symmetrical

[undone anchor]

I don't see the problem TBF 🤔🤔

[dim abyss]

oh u mean he swaps the hands?

[undone anchor]

I'm not that triggered by it personally

[dim abyss]

i understand what u mean now

good question i never even noticed

does it really matter though

[stray mason]

Yes, the skins swaps for no reason

[undone anchor]

Gj on finding it tho; if u want it changed Ur best bet is to make a #1266666196552519742 post 🤔👍👍

[stray mason]

It is triggering me a lot xD

[dim abyss]

they are probably showing it wrong in the menu

[undone anchor]

To bring attention to it

[dim abyss]

because how it looks in game should be the proper one

yea u can always make a feedback post

they read it

[stray mason]

I thought that, but if you check just the skin that i posted, and the video where the skin was showed

Zai uses them as hadi has them in the menu

[dim abyss]

oh really

[stray mason]

Gold right hand blue left hand

[dim abyss]

interesting bug

[stray mason]

Yes, let me get the video

[undone anchor]

In that case the feedback post is definitely the way to go👍👍

So that the Devs can see the bug

[stray mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4vWU857A1M

I don't know if its a bug or not, but it only happens with those skins

The one with the fork doesn't swap the weapons by no reason

[meager trail]

just make a feedback post if you want it to change

this doesn't belong in weapon combat

[stray mason]

I know, just asking if it is a bug or not

Just making questions

[undone anchor]

should be

[stray mason]

Thank you for reading ♥

[undone anchor]

np

[bitter atlas]

guys i keep seeing videos about weapon swapping

is that a mechanic to swap faster what are the other benefits to this worth learning or not

[white tundra]

yeah its worth but pretty hard if youre new, its called 211 so if you put that on youtube search

im in the process of learning it myself atm and all the input timings are pretty tight so it takes time to learn

but its faster to execute than basic grapple combo so it is (or would be) useful.

[naive plaza]

Weapon swapping isn’t just 211, there’s also combos between staff/spear and a heavy sword. Also works with longsword into heavy sword as well.

So weapon swapping isn’t always with the purpose of a focus release from the “main” weapon

There’s also faster ways to swap to range weapons, like crouch or jump swap to take them out faster if you’re trying to get the last hit on a low opponent

[white tundra]

ls into heavy?

[naive plaza]

Yeah, you can swap to a heavy sword after a longsword uppercut

[white tundra]

for normal atack?

like nothing fancy

[naive plaza]

It’s not as common with longsword, but before spear and staff had a grapple combo it was popular for very quick high dmg since even light attacks from heavy swords do a lot of dmg

But iirc, if you catch properly with polesword off the swap you can confirm the 2nd blue attack since heavy swords go into blue on the 2nd light

Not sure if the same is true for GS as I never experimented with GS myself

https://medal.tv/games/undefined/clips/jWxheC8MwinNtLbQ5?invite=cr-MSxFNHAsMzkyNzQzOTM0

I was practicing it in free training awhile ago but I’m not a heavy sword enjoyer so I don’t have in game clips of it

[white tundra]

but whats there in-between, only swap and holddodge?

[naive plaza]

Yeah it’s just a hold dodge swap after the uppercut

The timing on it is probably even easier now with the increased uppercut for staff/spear that allows the grapple combos for those weapons

[wise coral]

Most weapons can be swapped to off uppercut, jades or no jades and its faster combo than the basic grapple. Can be hit on 60 fps and you can get creative with it, say a fan uppercut into jabbing

I learned from this video and havent looked back its most of what I do now

https://youtu.be/ifI7AuFNI2s?si=2xYzky-T1X8Q0_zg

[bitter atlas]

TQ !

[wise coral]

Tip for learning, you dont have to use 3 weapons. Instead of scrolling up into your bag, just scroll down once to your 2nd slot and it works

[lusty cosmos]

isn't it outdated? can you still uppercut off of bow headshot?

[undone anchor]

Tight and prolly requires 200+ fps I would say🤔

@white tundra here how it should look